The I Love CVille Show With Jerry Miller! - UVA BOV Member Fires Back At David Toscano; Toscano Wrote Letter Attacking BOV, Sheridan & Youngkin

Episode Date: November 24, 2025

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Welcome to the Isle of Seville show, guys. My name is Jerry Miller. Good Monday afternoon to you. Thank you kindly for joining us on our flagship show here on the I Love Seville Network. Goodness gracious, we have a lot of fireworks going on. And today, more fireworks with a UVA Board of Visitors member, firing back, clapping back, going after David Tuscano. David Tiscano last week authored a column in the Daily Progress

and the Daily Progress owned by a publicly traded company called Lee Enterprises that is the largest newspaper holder in the Commonwealth of Virginia. So when Lee Enterprises publishes something in the Daily Progress, it's also being published in all their other publications. Discano, all their other publications in Virginia, so a lot of eyeballs. Descano last week, you know, shredded the Board of Visitors, shredded Glenn Yonkin and shredded Rachel Sheridan, as if they were, you know, shredder trying to go toe-to-toe

with Raphael, Michelangelo, Donatello, Leonardo, and Splinter. And Descano basically gets ripped a new one today by a UVA Board of Visitors member. and this UVA board of visitors members basically saying to David Descano you have no idea what you're talking about, right? I mean, he's saying you have no idea what you're talking about in the column. That is the essence of what's happening.

This is getting nasty. It's getting ugly. This is the white collar professional 1%er version of a backyard brawl that's happening right here. And it's happening before our very eyes. We're going to unpack what Board of Visitors member, was it, Wetmore said,

or authored in his column on today's show. We're going to talk on today's program, Governor-elect Abigail Spanberger. She goes on a podcast with John Stewart. Yes, that John Stewart, most known for his time on The Daily Show on Comedy Central. John Stewart, in this podcast that Abigail Spanberger was a featured guest on, is calling it to question. the legitimacy of the current UVA board and basically foreshadowing

that she's going to nuclear bomb the board and unwind or un... I guess unwinds the word. A deal that the board put in play with the Department of Justice and the Trump administration that basically dissolved diversity, equity, inclusion at UVA and offers the Department of Justice

quarterly audit ability, quarterly insights of the books at the University of Virginia. Spamberger are saying this board's not legit. There's five missing members. How the board was constructed by Yonkin means it was done incorrectly. And once I'm the governor, I'm going to implode it and I'm going to undo a lot of the things that this board did, including potentially this PAC sign with Donald Trump at the Department of Justice. This story is going to only gain momentum, ladies and gentlemen. only gain momentum. We'll talk about that on today's show. We're going to talk pizza. I had pizza

yesterday with family that was in town at Mellow Mushroom, locally owned and operated Mellow Mushroom, and it got Judah and I thinking, what is some of the best pizza in town in the Charlottesville area? A lot of us around the holidays need some kind of quick decision for dinner with our family and our extended family. We'll try to help you answer that decision today. We'll highlight the incredible response to the grand opening of Roeback in the Barracks Road shopping center. There's no secret that yours truly is a huge Roeback fan. While I'm not wearing it today, very interestingly, it's predominantly the brand that I most wear. The grand opening turnout for Roeback was in the hundreds of people. Ladies and gentlemen, this is for a brick and mortar retail store. And there's something about

this brand that has now entered brick-and-mortar retail that should be a case study for other brands that are in the brick-and-mortar retail space. We'll try to highlight the elements of what makes this brand so successful on today's program. We'll talk basketball, we'll talk football, 7 o'clock kickoff for that UVA Virginia Tech football matchup on Saturday. 7 o'clock, yes, that's late.

It's prime time on ESPN. The Wahoos are an 11.5 point favorite. I think it's going to be safe to say that there are going to be a lot of incredibly intoxicated people at that UVA Virginia Tech game with a full day of tailgating post- Thanksgiving. Let's see what happens. 11.5 point favorite. Charlottesville Sanitary Supply. We'll get some love, Judah, 61 years in business.

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Oh, definitely not. In the last month, Jim Ryan has written a letter airing out the dirty laundry of the University of Virginia. And from now on, I'm going to caveat that he's not just the former president

of the University of Virginia, but he is a law professor and has a law degree. Yeah. Okay. So Jim Ryan, ladies and gentlemen, he airs the dirty laundry of the University of Virginia

earlier this month. Rachel Sheridan orders, errs. airs the dirty laundry of the Board of Visitors and Jim Ryan's resignation earlier this month. David Tiscano jumps in the mix, the former Charlottesville mayor, the Virginia, the esteemed Virginia delegate,

an institution in Richmond, David Tiscano. Today, board member Wetmore attacks David Tiscano in print and basically says David Tiscano literally has no idea what he's talking about. Lower thirds on screen, please. We will highlight what board member Wetmore said of David Tuscano, of his tactics, and how he's so far removed of what's happening that he should just sit in the corner,

go to time out, and sit on his hands and be quiet. That's pretty much what this guy is saying. This is getting ugly. This is how the white collar, the affidavit, fluent, the one percenters of the world, this is their backyard brouhaha style. It's not with knives and bats and guns and fists and pushing in alleyways and next to dumpsters. It's authoring columns and letters in print for other people to read. And this board member spared no, spared no expense, spared no hesitation with Descano. What stood out to you? Let's set the stage

for the viewers and listeners. I mean, right off the bat, he pretty quickly gets into, uh, gets into, Tisano's, uh, Tuscano's writing as, uh, his criticisms being wholly without merit, ignoring the facts and the law. And, uh, and Descano being unfair to the point of being indecent. I mean, that's not holding back.

No. David Tiscano woke up this morning. David Tiscano is a friend of this program. I have tremendous respect for David Tiscano. David Tiscano, if you watch it, listen to this show, which we know you do. Okay? Please realize we have tremendous respect for you. We tremendous respect for what you've done for Charlottesville.

Tremendous respect for your time in Richmond. Please, please know that. All I'm doing is relaying the facts from this board member's letter to the viewers and listeners. I'll probably see Tiscano tomorrow. Literally, I will probably see him tomorrow. Okay? Wetmore, the board member, goodness gracious, is saying Tiscano is so far out of touch with what's happening

that for him to enter the fray shows someone that's completely out of touch with the comings and goings of the University of Virginia and its most prestigious board. Yeah. Um, Wetmore acknowledges that there are problems at UVA, uh, but he says that, uh, they've been a long time making. They're not, uh, you can't throw all of this at the feet of, of the current board of visitors. You can't throw it all at the feet of, of Governor Yonkin. Um, he says, uh, to blame the, uh, to blame the problem, the problems on Yonkin administration, the current board and certainly on the current rector is unfair.

Mr. Tuscano's portrayal of the facts is incorrect, and his ascribing sinister motives to dedicated volunteers is shameful. I hope his next column will explain why a committee of the Virginia State Senate, controlled by his party, recently voted down exceptionally well-qualified people from serving on the UVA Board of Visitors without discussion, to which he had spoken earlier in the article, saying that in his experience, the members of the Board of Visitors are made up of men and women who love UVA and that whether they're you know, whether they're Republicans, Democrats, independents, they all serve in a non-ideological manner.

And he feels that, you know, among other things, the, there's all this politics going on. And whether or not Tuscano knows all of the ins and outs of this insane story, I think Wetmore is suggesting that... He has no idea what's going on is what he's suggesting.

And that he stay out of it. And he stay out of it. And now this is within 24, 48 hours of Abigail Spamberger going on the John Stewart show, rotate some lower thirds on screen. John Stewart does a podcast, the former host of the Daily Show on Comedy Central, and Spamberger's on the John Stewart podcast talking about the UVA board and what she's going to do when she's in office. And one of the things she alludes to on this podcast with John Stewart

is that she doesn't even recognize this board as being legit. Listen to this quote. Listen to what she said to John Stewart on his podcast. UVA's board, because of the fact it is not fully constituted, because it's missing five members, it's also not statutorily compliant. There are requirements related

to residency, requirement for a certain number of UVA grants to be on the board, and are in the middle of this search process. She says this in relation to what she says is a weakened packed, weekend, like week, a weakened

a PAC that was signed with the Department of Justice by interim President Paul Mahoney. She says that the UVA leadership is out celebrating that UVA wouldn't have to pay any damages to the federal government. She says, why would they be doing that? She questions the resignation of Jim Ryan. Abigail Spamberger is going to get into this, is going to get into the governor's mansion. And she's going to nuclear bomb the board, ladies and gentlemen. That's a shame. She's going to malpractice and malfecese use malpractice and malfeasance to exit to jettison Rachel Sheridan, probably Porter Wilkinson. She's going to completely reimagine the board out of the gate, and she's going to do that to dissolve a signed contract with the Department of Justice in the University of Virginia that preserve federal funding while allowing the Department of Justice. quarterly audit

auditory insight as it applies to diversity, equity, inclusion and whether or not it's truly eradicated from UVA. That's part of the DOUVA sign with the DOJ. They can keep the federal funding. It would not be used against the university

by the feds if they dissolve DEI and if they give UVA if they give the DOJ access to UVA's books on a quarterly basis. Spamberger is saying that deal is weak, and should never have been signed and she's basing

that statement on a board that she says in her words this is literally her words a board that is not fully constituted missing five members and not statutorily compliant

that's foreshadowing is it not potentially what do do you know what she means by a statutorily compliant? I believe it's talking about the fact that I think she's just expanding on the fact that it's not a full board. It's missing five members, right?

Yeah. It's not, that means, that's what she means by not fully constituted. I think by saying that, I think by saying that it's not statutorily compliant is alluding to the fact that missing five members, there are certain other things that the board is supposed to have that it can't have with five people missing. I think that's, your read is 100% right. And does that then mean that the Democrats, Virginia Democrats, chose not to approve Yonken appointments

because they were playing chess when others were playing checkers and they knew that these five, by not approving the five to the board, would, these five by not approving them to the board, would give Spamberger the opportunity to then say, as soon as she was elected, that it's not statutorily compliant? Because Spamberger was a clear-cut favorite. Spanberger was a clear-cut favorite to win this race all along. Everyone knew that. They've been making plans.

Yeah. Winstim Earl Sears, the Republicans ran a... I mean, let's cut to the chase. Winston-Earl Sears was a deadbeat candidate. They ran against an extremely qualified candidate. Everyone knew that Winston-Murals Sears, my son who's seven, knew that Winston-Earl Sears, was going to lose and lose big. He said, there's no way Sears beat Spamberger said it on multiple times.

So did they know all along by freezing Yonkin's appointments on the B.O.V. That this would be a leverage point for Spamberger come office to nuclear bomb the board and or dissolve anything the BOV did? There had to be some thinking by Virginia Democrats that the BOV may rush to hire a president. This is just a wild story here. Thoughts on that, Judah Wickhauer. Comments are coming in. I mean, yeah, I wouldn't call it playing chess.

They're creating problems for themselves, as we've talked about before. They're creating precedents for basically screwing with the other side of the aisle. The Jefferson Council makes some great points about about Abigail Spanberger, saying she fails to address the actual reason for the five vacancies at UVA, the Democrat State Senate voting down the five Yonken appointees in June and August, without the dignity of any discussion, while also filling a temporary injunction to ensure they don't get seated. Wetmore makes the same points.

Also says she fails to acknowledge that never in the history of the General Assembly have B.O.V. appointments by any governor on either side been rejected. I don't think this is chess. I think this is lucky timing. Lucky timing? I think it's political, political brinksmanship and it's not going to be conducive to anything. They're essentially just, you know, like I said, creating precedent for the other side to come along and do the same thing in the future, which frankly, disgust me because neither side should be doing this. I agree. Neither side should be doing this. I agree.

100% agree with what you just said. But Yonkin was the first to set the precedent. No. You don't think Yonkin was the first to set the precedent with his interference with the board with Bert Ellis' firing? He sets its own precedent. He opened a Pandora's box? Yeah, but this is not a similar, you know,

a mirrored response to that. This is just more, you know, more precedence, more breaking of tradition. Abigail Spanberger also says she is going to further break tradition because she wants to, I believe it was take the, take the council for the UVA out of the, out of the hands of where it currently is. so that it's not so, and this might be a good thing.

It's not so politicized. You're talking about the university attorney. Yeah. Where Attorney General Jason Mayari's clean house at the University of Virginia with Hafei. And she says the AG shouldn't have that control. Yeah. Of who the university attorney, the council should be.

She intends to champion legislation in General Assembly to change the fact the state attorney. Attorney General appoints the university as counsels. We're in an era now where politicians, regardless of political affiliation, if you're a Democrat, Republican, libertarian, neutral, socialist, whatever, politicians think the story is them. There was at a time where governance was consistent, predictable, boring, and in the background. Now governance is slap you in the face front and center aggressive.

You've got a socialist looking to completely reimagine Manhattan and New York City, right? You got a president that is backroom dealing with Russia on a 28-point peace treaty with Ukraine, a 28-point peace treaty with Ukraine that is going to devastate the country of Ukraine. If you're not following this peace treaty that Trump is trying to negotiate the University of Virginia, or the United States of America that is so heavily weighted in favor of Russia then I encourage you to follow this story it is crippling to Ukraine

you know siphoning off part of its country Ukraine to Russia not being a part of the United Nations Ukraine it's going to set up Ukraine to be eviscerated again in the future because if we think Russia and Putin are people that negotiate in good faith then you're just not reading the tea leaves correctly.

I mean, that's something about tea leaves. It's just about... Common sense. Yeah. There are so many other examples of overreach. Now Spamberger, and I'm an equal opportunity call or outer here. Okay? Calling out the socialist mayor in Manhattan.

Calling out Trump. Calling out Spamberger here. Spamberger from day one. How about we get in the governor's mansion and we just like, you know, break in the leather reclass. a little bit and take the plastic wrapper. Remember grandma's house when she was on the sofa? She had the sofa with the plastic wrapper over it. You take the plastic wrapper off the sofa,

Grandma. We understand that you're concerned that Jerry and his brother Jeffrey when they come over to your house as little kids are going to spill their orange juice and their moo-hoo and their Hershey's chocolate milk onto your sofa and stain it. But goodness gracious, after spending an entire afternoon out in the cul-de-sac in Hampton, Virginia, as we're visiting you and we're sweating profusely, when we get on your couch, our skin sticks to it. And it feels like when we get up, we're peeling our skin off because you still have the plastic wrapper on it. Spamberger hasn't even gotten into the governor's mansion and taken the plastic wrapper off the furniture. She hasn't gotten comfortable. She hasn't broken in the recliner. She hasn't broken in the sofa. She hasn't set

the presets, the program, the favorite channels on the TV. She hasn't gotten the temperature thermometer in the settings that she likes. From day one, she's going to nuclear bomb the University of Virginia and reimagine the influence and the authority and the autonomy that the Attorney General has with hiring or firing counsel at universities at the Commonwealth. When did politics become so slap you in the face aggressive and front and center? It's like a sports analogy. There's those referees in sports that think the game is about them.

And when they use their whistle and make decisions in the game, it changes the outcome of the game. The best referees are not like that. Doubt the eyes and cross the T's before I get to Vanessa Park, Hald Judah. Anything else you want to add? Oh, man, there's so

much. I don't know where to start. it's nuts you know like you said Tiscano's a good guy I think all of the people involved in this

are good people I don't know why Tisano got involved with this I'm going to probably see David Tuscato tomorrow I'm probably going to see David Tiscano tomorrow

he wrote about it back in he wrote about it back in July right after right after former president Ryan resigned his seat. I have tremendous respect

for David Descano. I'm probably going to see him tomorrow. I keep saying that, okay? I don't want it to be awkward here. But I don't know why he is retired. He's a practicing attorney. He's not a delegate. He's not on the board. He lives in Charlestville. I don't think David Descano went to UVA.

Wikipedia or that real quick. Fantastic human being. Love seeing you, David. Sincerely mean that. He Colgate University, Boston College, all right, he got a law degree, I stand corrected. I apologize. A law degree from the University of Virginia. Okay, so law degree from the University of Virginia

and the fact that he's a retired, you know, Virginia delegate, okay, we'll say there's some tie, there's ties to the University of Virginia, and he's a man of influence, and maybe that's why he jumped into the swimming pool. Right? Let's talk about that. This is wild. Wetmore makes a lot of great points, though. Read the article, folks.

Yeah, it is very worth reading. He talks about the fact that President Ryan's handpicked a university council admitted on video that UVA was not following the federal civil rights laws. A lot of this, a lot of this is a lot of what Spanberger wrote, a lot of what Descano wrote, talked about the, fact that the fact that the DOJ was going after, was going after these schools, you mentioned earlier money, how no money was given to, was given to the DOJ. Tuscano, I believe, and Spanburg as well were dismissive of the fact that UVA, with this

deal, got out of paying any money to our government. I think they argue that this kind of a deal was unnecessary to prevent paying money to the government. Where Wetmore says that, and if you take a look at a lot of the other schools recently who have paid money, sometimes what, upwards of $400,000 to the federal government, I think it's unfair to dismiss the deal that Mahoney made along with the Board of Visitors with our government. I got print media, television media, and radio media watching the show right now.

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Let's get to comments. Carol Thorpe, the Quita Jack Jewett's photo on screen. Carol Thorpe says if Spamberger and UVA want to exercise their prerogative to continue with their initiatives, fine, but be prepared to pay the price by President Trump and his prerogative. It appears the days of wanting your case. and eating it to her over. Oh, yeah.

She's 100% right. Especially if Spanberger comes in and immediately shreds the agreement with the DOJ. Yeah, and I think she's going to do that. What Spamberger is doing in this John Stewart podcast, and she knew this podcast was going to make national news, she said that this Board of Visitors group is not statutorily compliant. And then she called the agreement with the Department of Justice that, interim president, Paul Mahoney made basically BS. That's what she said. And if she goes

it and implodes that agreement that gives the DOJ quarterly audit ability of the University of Virginia and whether or not they've truly eviscerated DEI. Because remember, initially, they just smoke and mirror the evisceration of DEI initially. And that's what really drew the ire of the Department of Justice against the University of Virginia. So if they do that, That means the University of Virginia, ladies and gentlemen, will, could risk its federal funding. Vanessa Parkhill of Ehrlichville watching the program. Once Spamberger is sworn in,

I think it's probably her prerogative to make changes on the B.O.B. If the DEI initiatives come into play, the university needs to be prepared for an interruption in federal funding. Elections have consequences. Vanessa Parkhill also says state government officials are involved with UVA because it is a state public school. UVA is free to divest itself from the government strengths, just like

Hillsdale College. Yeah. Just saying they don't have to take the, you know, all the money that the federal government gives them, including the, what, like four or five hundred thousand for medical research. Oh, it's way more than that.

Okay. You're saying the money from the feds to UVA? Yeah. The money from the feds to the University of Virginia is north of 500 million. Yeah, that's what I meant. 500 million and a billion dollars, the yearly operating budget for UVA is 5.2 billion. So when you risk somewhere between 500 million and 1 billion dollars, you're risking 10% to 20% of your operating budget, ladies and gentlemen. This is significant. One of Charlottesville's most significant

activists is watching the program, Don Gathers. Do we have a photo for Don Gathers that we can put on screen? Don, I love when you watch the show. We need to get a Don Gathers photo that we can start putting on screen because Mr. Gathers. His opinion is one that I respect tremendously. We don't always see eye to eye, and that's okay, Don. But I respect his opinion. I want to hear it. Let's add him to the family.

Anytime he comments on the show, he should have a photo on screen. Don Gathers says the UVA political plantation, as it now exists, needs to be imploded and remade. Governor-elect Spamberger plans to implement the changes that are sorely needed to be made. Don Gathers, I agree and disagree with that comment. That's fine, though. that makes the world a wonderful place Randy O'Neill watching the program the Republican Party leadership has sucked

for the last 20 years they have all collected too many government checks Tommy Normant built a grifter party instead of a service platform Kilgore is a joke nepotism 101 so Randy O'Neill just blasted the Republican Party right there media from Richmond watching the program as we speak the news cycles got fodder for

for weeks, and Spamberger's not even in office yet. Let's see what happens when Spamberger gets into office. What happens? Is Jim Ryan still in the mix as President of the University of Virginia? It's hard to count them out. It's impossible to count them out. Impossible to count them out. He's still getting paid by UVA,

and he will continue to get paid by UVA, whether he's the president or just a professor. Exactly. And he's got the most powerful party in the Commonwealth, the Democrats, in his corner. Yeah. The biggest winner of all this could be Jim Ryan.

That's if he still wants the job. I mean, he planned on retiring in 2026 anyways. Oh, man. Unbelievable. All right, 107 marker on the program. If you haven't read the Wetmore article in the Daily Progress, read it. If you haven't listened to Spamberger's comments, to John Stewart, listen to him on his podcast. They are significant, and they foreshadow of

what's to come. Next headline, Judah Wickcaro, what do you got? Let's see. What's the best pizza? So hard to segue into what's the best pizza. But it is the water cooler of content and conversation here, the I Love Sevo show. Had mellow mushroom yesterday. Mellow mushroom was just fantastic pizza. And it got me in the table thinking, what's the best pizza that's around? I think you got to talk Dino's. Yeah.

I think you got to talk Mona Lisa. Mona Lisa is very good. Mona Lisa and Preston. I think you would like it. It's a thinner cross. Pineappo is very good in Fry Springs. Nice. Fabio's is very good.

Fabio's is definitely up there. What's on your short list? I don't get to Christians much anymore, since they're on the other end of the mall, but they've always been consistently good with their individual slices. Same with Vita Nova. That's my go-to when I'm getting pizza on the downtown mall, since obviously they're closer to us. Also consistently good single slices.

And usually when I'm ordering a pizza, I order her from Fabio. They're pretty close to where I live. And again, always good pizzas. A squared is very good. Andy Argot and his family are going through some hardship right now. There's a GoFundMe that's circulating. Unfortunately, his daughter has leukemia. So support that family.

They're fantastic. That's Detroit-style pizza north of town. Emmy squared and Barrett's Road is very good pizza. I thought that was delightful. There's an abundance of quality pie in this area. No doubt. Why we wanted to have this topic, it came up over dinner last night, and it's that time where there's family in your house for the holidays,

and you may need a suggestion for a quick dinner. Dinos, Mona Lisa, A-squared, Emmy-squared, Fabio's, mellow mushroom, you can't go wrong with any of those. Pineapo? No doubt. Can't go wrong with any of those. Next headline, Judah Wickcar, what do you got? Next, we have hundreds gathering.

for a for a Roeback Roe-Harletsville success story Here's what I want to talk about here We'll spend a couple minutes on this one Roeback is going into the brick and mortar game When a lot of people are fleeing brick and mortar

They clearly have the secret sauce dialed in They're selling clothing, Activeware, at extremely high dollar amount And people are buying it by the millions, tens of millions, and top line revenue. What is the secret sauce that Roeback has? In terms of why they would open up a brick and mortar, I think it's the fact that they've created a solid groundwork

of support and people that really love their product. And so this is not just kind of like, hey, we need to, to, you know, we need to find our storefront so that we can make some money. They're already making money. This is just a way of putting down, what would you say, kind of like a go-to spot for locals in Charlottesville. John Blair, I'll get to your comments here in a matter of moments. I don't think sales at this store are going to make or break the company. 100%. There you go. I learned this while in Southampton, New York. Okay. Southampton, New York has a fantastic area called the Village.

It reminds me a lot of downtown Charlottesville. And the large majority of the storefronts in Southampton, New York's village, are on less than one-year leases. They open up storefronts just for the summer. And those storefronts are billboards that generate revenue. They're billboards for the brand, a marketing play first, that also happen to generate tangible revenue because they sell skews and inventory at these storefronts. Expensive leases in a very pomp and prestigious premier area, the Hamptons.

Roeback, similar strategy. Go to Barracks Road, the number one shopping district, in your hometown, Charlottesville, a brand founded by Darden graduates. They dialed in the secret sauce by figuring out how to create, an active wear and lifestyle brand through the creation of social media content and then they sell that activeware and lifestyle brands

online social media through country club retail stores have wild success stories where it's become an identity for wearers part of their identity and now they're opening a storefront and the top shopping area as a marketing play that just happens to sell skews like you see some of these big dollar brands and the Hamptons do. Props to Robo. John Blair's comment,

his photo on screen. He says Jerry, mark my words, if there is some attempt to end this deal with the DOJ, a lot of people might be shocked, and I use that word literally not figuratively, to learn what has been going on at UVA and higher ed in general. Here's

an article about remedial math at USC San Diego, ranked 29th in the nation via U.S. News from the Atlantic, and he shares the link on my Facebook page. He says 20% of incoming UCSD University, California, San Diego students could not answer the following question. Sarah has nine dimes and nine pennies. How many coins did she have in all? Say that again? Sarah has nine dimes and nine pennies. How many coins does Sarah have in all? Can you answer that question, Chita? I mean, just I would think it was

18. Yeah, 18. 9 dimes and 9 pennies. 18. 18 coins. He says, here's the report by UCSD itself that says one out of every eight freshmen cannot pass an eighth grade math exam. That's so scary. And that's a link that he shared on my personal LinkedIn page for you to see viewers and listeners. All right, last topic on the show, football and basketball news. We're going to talk about this tomorrow at 10.15 a.m. with Jerry Rackcliffe. on the Jerry and Jerry show. UVA football is playing Virginia Tech on Saturday in a must-win game for an ACC championship appearance. UVA opens as an 11 and a half point favorite, 11.5.

Kickoff is set for 7 p.m. I love the 7 p.m. kickoff, but in a lot of people in Wahoo Nation hate it. You're going to have a lot of drunk fans at this contest, ladies and gentlemen. They're going to be tailgating all day after tailgating for two or three days over Thanksgiving. Virginia Tech has won 19 of the last 20 ballgames.

The Hokies are really down this year, but I would not count the Hokies out in any UVA Virginia Tech matchup. Vegas has the Wahoos, 11 and a half point favorite. ESPN has the nationally televised coverage. And then from a basketball standpoint, Virginia lost a Butler yesterday at the Green Breyer tip-off tournament. Butler overpowered, physically overpowered UVA. The Hoos are 5 at 1.

We'll talk about that game tomorrow and we'll talk about the football Virginia Tech matchup tomorrow at 10.15 a.m. on the Jerry and Jerry show with Jerry Hoodie Rackleff. So long, everybody. Thank you.