The I Love CVille Show With Jerry Miller! - UVA Fires Coach Mox, Cites Toxic Team Environment; What Happened With UVA Women's Basketball?

Episode Date: April 7, 2026

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Good Tuesday morning, guys. My name is Jerry Miller, and thank you kindly for joining us on the Jerry and Jerry show. So much to cover on the program today, including the implosion of UVA women's basketball under now fired head coach, coach mocks. A lot to cover on this program. Toxicity was the word that went viral across the women's basketball landscape. The reporting award winning per usual from Jerry Rackleff of Jerry Rackleff.com. On Saturday, my colleague, my friend Jerry Rackleff broke a story on Jerry Rackleff.com about the canning of Coach Box, the UVA women's coach, who most recently were talking days ago pushed UVA hoops to a sweet 16 Cinderella run, where UVA, led by Camara Johnson, were the darlings of college basketball. Wahu Nation was shocked and stunned to learn of Coach Mox's firing over the weekend. Jerry Rackleff offered sources reporting based on source information that literally drove the new cycle,

including coverage in the New York Post. Ladies and gentlemen, we're going to talk about that story on today's episode of the Jerry and Jerry show. I encourage you, the viewer and listener, to like and share the show. Do us that favor. Like and share the show. Ask us questions like Renee Peddeford has in the feed. You're the first to ask the question, Renee, and that's why we love you. I believe you're watching in the triangle of North Carolina.

Judah Wickhauer is behind the camera. If we can go to the studio camera and then a two-shot as we welcome the Virginia Sports Hall of Famer Jerry Hoody Rackleff. if we could start scattershooting with Jerry Rackleff, just on the virility of what happened with your coverage. Give us the timeline of the weekend, the reporting when it was published, and then what started happening on your Twitter account, good God, I had a bird's eye view of it,

and then the national coverage. Yeah, it was totally unexpected, really. I was going to take a rare day off Saturday and relax and watch the Final Four, which didn't miss very much because both those games were blowouts and not very good. And my son actually alerted me, he said, are you going to write anything about the coach Mock situation? and I said, what is it? Did they give her an extension?

And he said, no, you might want to look at it. So I did, and I was stunned, actually, as I think most people were. I had heard none of the rumblings about that. And so I put together a little game plan on how to, and reading the release and with the background I've had in journalism all my life and I knew something

was terribly wrong because that was about a terse news release as I've ever seen. Ever seen, me too. Three sentences not very long and revealing nothing really other than the fact that she was

gone with no explanation of any kind. And so I went to my contact list of sources, just to try to figure out who would be the best people to try to on my source list that might be willing to give me some inside information and found a few and had conversations. conversations with them throughout the afternoon. I wanted to make sure that I had as much as I could to try to give an explanation that people wanted to know. The more I talked to

talk to people the more bizarre things got. It was plain to see at that point that something was terribly wrong in that program. And it wasn't hard to figure out the source of that. It was the coach. And so after I got all the facts together and wrote out a little bit of an outline, I wrote the story and my son posted it on our regular Jerry Rackleff.com. and it's like lighting a fire, a stick of dynamite, because it went boom in a big way.

And I spent the rest of the evening trying to answer people's questions on Twitter. And certainly, I really found out that night just how many idiots there are on. Twitter. Everyone has keyboard muscles. I mean, there's plenty of very intelligent people and intelligent fans, but there's a certain

segment that shouldn't be allowed to use social media. So I had a few battles with some of them who were attacking my credibility and attacking my sources, etc., and saying I was making it up and stuff like that. But you're always going to

have a few of those moronic kind of people. And so the following day, I saw the USA Today had a follow-up story didn't really provide anything new.

It provided less than you actually reported. Yeah. The USA Today story. Yeah. And then the New York Times came out, or New York Post, rather, came out with a version. and you cited some of my work. And I understand that that was highly read in the New York Post.

But I had a couple of people step forth through email and gave me, if you peel back the onions, and if their stories are accurate, then and I hope they do come forth. I can't just run those accusations without proof of identity. So I'm hoping both these people will come forth and do the right things so we can tell the whole story

because I think the public needs to know. And I've always protected my sources in my entire career I've never given up a source ever I would go to jail first even when threatened by superiors and bosses

you refuse to give up sources and I have I was willing to resign yeah you should tell that story I know that's kind of if you want to that's a bit of a tangent I get it

I don't know if I really want to get into that but anyway he was willing to resign though yeah did not give up my source and never will. But anyways, if those

things are accurate, then what I've written so far is just the tip of the iceberg. So hopefully those people will come through and trust me enough to let me tell their story.

The level of toxicity here, how do you care tries it. Unheard of in my career. And you've been doing this for? Since the early 70s. And he covered Dave Lato's team.

Oh yeah. And I've covered several other programs. I've covered Duke, NC State, Lake Forest. But I specifically mentioned, I specifically mentioned Dave Lato. Yeah. Because he had, I mean, everyone knows this now. And after a loss, he had his players, disallowed his players to change their basketball uniforms in a locker room? You know, I actually, I don't have a problem with that.

Okay, okay. I think sometimes a coach has to send a message. Jeff Jones did something similar one time. He told a funny story on one of my podcasts that it was one of the teams with Corey Alexander on it, and they had played so lousy and disinterested in a game that they came back and I can't remember if it was to practice the next day or what, but they had just built a brand new locker room

and to send the message that they were not putting forth the expected effort, he locked that locker room and made them dress in a pretty rotten, shabby place to send the message. and some of them got it and so of them didn't. And Jeff tells the story. It's funny.

He said, I told me, he said, do you know why you're dressing here? And Corey pitched in with something that was, I can't remember the exact words, but something like, you know, the other place is under construction or something like, you know, something, he didn't get the point. But the rest of the players did. but I don't mind, you know, subcoaches, I think even Tony Bennett did this when they came back from some game,

and Mike Shoshchewski was the first one that I knew that did it. They came back from a night game, and I think Virginia did the same thing. I know Shoshchewski did, and he was so upset with the way they played, they got off the bus and went straight to practice at like late at night

and went through a rigorous practice to send a message and so you know I don't have a problem with some things like that but I don't consider that abuse but I do think some of the things that we heard about here and beyond

were mental and verbal abuse you characterize it and I'm not going to ask you to reveal anything that you don't, you know, he's the consummate professional, folks. I worked for him for years at the newspaper locally. It was my first job out of UVA. I've seen it firsthand. You characterized the level of toxicity under CoachMox as a level of toxicity

that you've never seen in your entire career? Yeah. Jeez. Yeah. That covers a lot of teams. That's 50 plus years. A lot of sports. That's 50 plus years.

of coaches. Yeah. The shock and stun for Wahoo Nation, I think, was Sweet 16 run, darling of college basketball, captivated the country,

success, then fired the coach. That was the stun. Anywhere you want to go on that? Well, it's amazing to me that they got that far under these kind of conditions. I tip my hat to the

women on that team, they, I think they, excuse me, put it upon themselves to give everything they had. Because I think, I'm sure there was some discussion well beyond this weekend that these players were probably all planning on going into the portal when the season was over and they wanted to give it everything they had one last time. And they did, played admirably and overachieved. And now at least six of them have announced intentions of going into the portal, even if they haven't. There may be more today, but that was as of lunchtime yesterday, including Mo Johnson, which she's got to be one of the highest profile people in the portal, I would think. and I would think that Virginia would try to do everything they can to get her back. And she did, she and at least one other said that they would essentially said they would consider coming back if the right hire is made.

And so I imagine they're all waiting to see what happens there. We're going to talk the right hire. Clearly the fan base is pushing for Don Staley. My standpoint, that's an absolute pipe dream, but he's the true professional. I will ask him that question. Don Staley's buyout is maybe the highest in college basketball. Yeah, and she and her attorney, her agent, are the ones that wrote the terms of that,

and essentially so she can't go to another college program unless she has a clause in her buyout, she can go coach professional basketball with zero buyout. Which she flirted or was linked rumor mill-wise to the New York Knicks job, at one time. Yeah. But to buy her out to go to another college program, they have to pay, the school would have to pay the remaining contract

for six years or something like that, which is somewhere in the neighborhood of $25 million. Overseed amount of money for women's basketball. Yeah, because she makes a lot of money. She makes a lot of money. You're talking about the highest pay. We're going to get to Staley. We'll get to Kenny Brooks. We'll get to Tim Taylor. We'll get to potential replacements here. So much I've got to cover here. If we know through your reporting, and if you're not subscribing to jerry rackliff.com for $8 a month, you're missing the best Virginia sports content possible. I'm a subscriber. We got a ton of subscribers. Folks, it's the best. best of the best coverage, including on this story. It's $8 a month. It's a cup of coffee. Cost of a cup of coffee. The investigation was ongoing. Yeah. And, you know, I think Virginia made a mistake by not mentioning that in their

press release that there had been an investigation, supposedly four months, which that's the case. And that goes back to December. almost the length of the basketball season. So it's not like this was anything done on the spur of the moment. There was, I'm sure they had built up, and probably have heard all the evidence that I've heard, and have talked to players and staff members. And I think since the investigation took that long,

I'm sure that at some point in there that Carla Williams recognized that she was going to have to make a change in leadership at the end of the season, no matter how far they went in the tournament. Winds don't matter under those conditions. And if that's the case, then I would think that she's probably spent that time wisely in reaching out to agents. etc. to try to find the right person to come in and lead the program. That's probably the key

in trying to keep the players that they want to keep. The investigation was ongoing throughout the season. There was no mention of it which led to the surprise. The investigation was ongoing throughout the season. There was no mention

of it. And the press release that announced the firing, which led to more surprise. The team performed well despite the investigation, which led to even more surprise. Here's maybe the biggest surprise kicker for me. The coach is fired, and still the entire team enters the portal, including the Star Guard from Charlottesville and St. Anne's Belfield.

The folks that are siding with Coach Mock said, if she was fired, the players were to stay, so clearly it's not coach moxing toxicity. Your chance to rebuttal that. Yeah, I don't buy that at all. I think most of these players are doing it to protect themselves and the rest of their careers because Virginia has, I mean, you look back at the last two women's coaches.

They've been total disasters. not only were their records terrible, but their conduct. Tina Thompson was an embarrassment. Yeah, the way they managed the teams was an embarrassment. It was a joke. Other programs laughed at some of the antics of that coach. I think they didn't want to play for another lousy coach. And if they can't prove to them that they're going to bring in

somebody better than they have the last two times going back over eight years, then why bother to staying in a program where you're going to face another less than solid coach? And, you know, if they're going to bring in just another mediocre coach who hasn't proven to be a winner on the major stage, then why bother? If you're going to play for a new coach, why not play for one somewhere else and maybe make some more money along

the way? So I don't think this is a show of support for Coach Mock's in any kind of way. Follow-up question for you. And the guy's coverage and reporting is the best in the business you could see.

There's a fine line. I'm one of the of those guys, and I don't know if you are, I know you very well, Judah is not one of those guys. My wife is not one of those gals, but I'm one of those guys where if I have a boss or a coach, I want to be aggressively coached or or, I am one of those guys. Written, you know, like to the point of like almost breaking. Right. Because at that level of adversity, I rise.

Yeah. You know, right. My wife despises that type of culture. A lot of people are one or the other. Right. She's a track star and she's self-motivated. She doesn't need that. She wakes up every day and is going to do it herself.

I will wake up every day and do it, but I know there's another level that I can go further if I get that. Right. there's this fine line of being the authoritarian general that every team needs and then becoming the tyrant or the dictator. Can you put that in perspective with your career in journalism and covering sports of where that line is, how this line was passed? I'm not asking you to reveal source information.

But what happened here? Because some are saying today's players are soft. Well, there is a case for that, and it's nothing like it used to be, and you can talk to most coaches, and they'll agree with that. But I think I've only seen one other coach really cross that line. It's not discipline. I mean, you can be a hard general and push your team and knowing what buttons to push.

And some people you can't push that button because they don't need it or they react poorly to it. But usually coaches are trying to push players to be better than what they know they can be. It's because they care and because they want to see that person reach their potential. George Wells probably pushed people as hard as anybody you could ever imagine but it was because he cared and because he wanted to get the most he could out of those players he didn't care if you were an All-American or a Walk-on you were treated the same you can ask Herman Moore about getting thrown off the team one day in practice most coaches are elected Jeff Jones

I had Curtis Staples on one of my podcasts with Jeff back during the season. And he was a freshman, and Jeff threw him and I think a couple of other players out of practice or something. And Curtis was crying because he thought he was going to get thrown off the team. I've had many coaches make me cry. Yeah. And so I had a disciplinarian football coach in high school. school who had been an all southern conference lineman at Virginia Tech. And still, I love him to this day.

Same coach that produced John Copper and some other people. But it's hard to believe that we were played for the same coach. That's how long his career was. But, you know, most coaches are there to push you to be your best. And discipline is a big part of it. Some people maybe get a little carried away with that, but there's a difference between that and mental and verbal abuse. Discipline and mental verbal abuse, there's a fine line there.

I've only seen, I think, maybe one other coach at Virginia, and I'm talking about football and basketball mostly because some of the other sports coaches I know, but I don't know them as intimately as we do. of football and basketball. I've only seen one other coach probably cross that line during my career here, which goes back to 82. And, and, but even, even he did not touch the limits

of what we've heard the accusations of Coach Mock's. So that's, that says it. That says it all. And, you know, talking about in support of Coach Mock's and all that stuff. I noticed that Camar Johnson when she liked... This was on Instagram. You want me to explain this one?

Yeah, go ahead. Yeah, so this is just social media talking. Yeah. The announcement was made of Mok's parting ways from UVA on Instagram, and Camor Johnson hearted or liked the post. Yeah. Now, her mom came to Camara Johnson's defense later. I don't know if you saw those replies.

I did not. Camor Johnson's mom is very active on social media, watches the show. She's one of my followers. Yeah, very active on social media. And she says, Camora, by interacting with that post, is showing support for the program in totality and not to read too much into it. Yeah. Okay. But at the same time, I certainly read it, how you read it and how everyone else read it,

where the Star Guard is interacting in favorable fashion on sociality. social media with the departure and use of the coach. Right. I don't think she was opposed to it. Yeah, I don't think she was opposed to it. Segway into Camara Johnson. What's the future for Camara Johnson and what jersey she's wearing? Well, again, she's one of the highest profile players in the portal, a potential

All-American, dynamic score, team leader. the kind of person you want on your basketball team, and I would think that some of the better programs in the country will probably reach out to her and make an offer. And that's a big temptation, even if you would like to come back and play for your own school, especially if you don't know what's ahead at your own school. so I think if she had her preference that they would hire someone that she could believe in

and she would come back and have a sterling career here but that remains to be seen the hiring last two hirings were pretty bad oh well you could make a legitimate argument the last three hirings yeah although she didn't have anything to do with the with the Joanne Boyle that was, she inherited that. Yeah.

Tushay, fair, fair. You're right. The firing couldn't happen at a worse time. 48 hours before the, 48 hours before the portal opens?

Yeah. Like 60 hours before, I mean, I'm not the exact, just a couple of days, how's that? Before the portal opens. Yeah, and if they hadn't gone on the run that they did,

I imagine this would have been taken care of weeks ago. But sometimes you don't have control of that. And I'm sure Carla would have rather had, would have rather taken care of this earlier, but she was called in an unusual circumstance. Replacements, shortlist.

Wow. Excuse me. Bless you. That's a good question. You know, I threw out some names of the first day of pie in the sky, a couple of pie in the sky people. Corey Close had been a strong candidate when they hired Coach Mock's. And I think at that time she didn't want to leave the West Coast because I think a family member was ill,

and she didn't want to leave that situation. And I think that person has since passed. But then again, she had one of the same. a national championship before this weekend either. So I'm sure that makes her an incredibly harder target for Virginia. And then someone mentioned to me Kenny Brooks. Of course, we all know his history. He grew up in Waynesboro.

I think he's always had his eye on the Virginia job. For some reason, I don't think they want to hire or haven't wanted to hire a man to coach the women's team. I think that probably prevented him from being the head coach here before. Does it prevent Tim Taylor from getting the job? Well, it could, yeah. Tim Taylor is, I hope Tim Taylor watches this. I would not be surprised if he does.

Tim Taylor is a friend. He's a good guy. Tim Taylor's a great guy. Good coach. Great coach. I got to know family man, honest man, has San Brunel as an assistant coach. I got to know Coach Tim Taylor while working for Jerry Rackleff. My first job out of UVA was a sports writer at the Daily Progress.

I was on the high school sports beat. Tim Taylor was the head coach of Orange County High School, the boys basketball team, where they had Quentin Hunter and Bradley Starks as star players. Bradley Starks played football at West Virginia. Quentin Hunter started football at UVA that finished, I believe, at JMU. he's a head coach, I think at Emory and Henry Football Quit Hunter. Really? Bradley Starks, I believe, is a sheriff

in Orange County right now, Virginia. Awesome. Their football team, their basketball team, excuse me, under Tim Taylor, made it to a state championship appearance. Captivated the entire region. Got to know Tim Taylor. Then he went to Madison. Now he, Madison County High School.

He was born and raised in Madison. Now is the head coach at Navy. Even perhaps more importantly, a former assistant coach under Debbie Ryan. Tim Taylor would make a great hire. I'm curious, though, if, you know, does being a man maybe work against Tim Taylor here? I don't know.

And I haven't heard that as a fact. I've just heard that in theory that for some reason they don't want a man coaching the women's team. And I don't know if that's Carla's philosophy or Debbie Ryan's philosophy, although Debbie had some great men assistant coaches during her career, including Gino Ari Emma, who is considered the best coach in the country in women's basketball. So what do you say he'd been to 25 final fours, I believe? Yeah, unbelievable.

Maybe the best basketball coach of all time. Could be. a legitimate argument for. Yeah, yeah. Not saying he is, but there's an argument to be made. And she had some other really good men assistant coaches as well. So, you know, I don't know. I think he would be superb.

He's a good, solid coach. He knows UVA. He knows the area. He knows the state of Virginia. Do we cross Don Staley off the list? I'm pretty sure. Okay. I mean, unless somebody wants to throw out

crazy money. And I mean, there's some people out there who could do that. It's a matter whether they want to. And, you know, I don't know if Don would want to leave South Carolina anyway. There's checkered history with Dawn Staley and UVA. Yeah, but I think it's more UVA's fault than Don. Right, 100%. Definitely UVA's fault.

Yeah, and I think that's been patched up by Carlo. and I'll give her a lot of credit for doing that. A former administrator left a bad taste in Dawn's mouth the way she was treated during one of the coaching searches. And that caused, excuse me, a lot of problems and Carlos has patched that up. And I think Debbie has done that as well. but I don't see it happening

as great as it would be for the University of Virginia to welcome her home because I think she could build a national championship program here. It's hard to leave a program where you're comfortable and you've got everything going your way and you have national prominence and it's hard to walk away from something like that.

I'm not saying it's impossible, but it's highly improbable. Comments are coming in extremely quickly. One thing we can say is there's significant interest in women's basketball. Well, you know, that's what surprised me throughout all of this. Yeah, and maybe it takes something like this to stir the pot, but if you look at, I'm always looking at numbers about who reads what on my site. And he's talking about, I'll give some color here. He's a content creator.

He's the best content creator with UVA sports possible. As a fellow content creator, there's metrics or data that suggest which content we produce is most read and why. And as content creators, we have a tendency because we're business people, this is a business, of creating the content that drives traffic. So that's what he's talking about. Right. And, you know, throughout the season, there was interest, but, more interest than usual for women's basketball,

but nothing eye-popping until this. And it started with Sweet 16 run. Yeah, it increased the further they got. But again, nothing approached this past weekend when I think more than 50,000 people read that story about the news that she had. had been fired. And that's just on my side alone.

Who knows how that impacted things down the line and other newspapers, et cetera, like the New York Post, I'm sure. They got a lot of readership as well. 50,000 people on the toxicity story that he broke, ladies and gentlemen. It's a lot of readers for, for any. Just about any story. I'll put that in perspective as someone who makes his living in media. That story is driving more viewership and readership, listenership,

than anything Lee Enterprises is doing with their sports department. Being extremely straightforward. These are my words, not his words, factual words. Sports departments at the local newspaper in Charlottesville and the one in Richmond are not seeing that kind of viewership, readership, listenership on the content they are creating. Wild, what's happening here? Basically, there's a women's basketball team that has no players and no coach right now at UVA.

Yeah, pretty much. That's where we're at. Yeah. It's kind of like the men's program was a year ago under different circumstances. Way different circumstances. Way different circumstances. Yeah, and Carla Williams is scrambling right now. Yeah, but well, maybe she is.

We don't know. I wouldn't be surprised Me either If she Already hasn't ready to go Named somebody this week Yeah I would think it would be this week Yeah

It almost has to be this week Because of the portal for one thing It's a 15 I think a 15 day window Not that you have to sign In those 15 days But Time is of the essence

And I would think Like said With that four month investigation And knowing that She was probably going to have to make a change I would anticipate she did a lot of work through the back channels way before this announcement was ever made. So she probably has a coach.

Maybe she was waiting until the season ended for everybody. I don't know. But I think she probably is further along with that than maybe people think. You've covered this fantastically well. If you're not subscribing to Jerry Rackcliffe.com, it's $8 a month. I'm a subscriber. There's hundreds of people that are subscribers right now, $8 a month for content that's not being reported anywhere else. And we're not even at football season here.

We're entering the transfer portal. We're in the transfer portal. We have to talk men's basketball as we segue here. You got lower thirds on screen. I believe we have a subscriber lower third from last week that you can put on screen, Juno. Grunlow, DeRitter, Chance Mallory are back. They've officially said they are coming back. Derritter, Grunlos, and Chance Mallory.

We are waiting on Sam Lewis to make an official commitment, although after the loss to Tennessee in the NCAA tournament, Sam Lewis immediately said he was coming back. Perhaps Sam Lewis, and I don't blame him by any means, should have been more measured with his words, like De Ritter was measured with his words. Yes. I think De Ritter...

He said he was open to coming back. And Der Ritter's words, open to coming back, means basically my agent's going to negotiate on my behalf because I was first team all conference in the ACC, and I deserve to be paid more money because my value has increased. Where Sam Lewis in the moment, as a young man, said, hell yeah, I'm coming back.

I love these guys. I love this team. I love orange and blue. But then his agent gets in his ear, and said, Sam Lewis, you just had a killer year. You probably can start flirting with seven figures on the open market if you enter the portal and your earning window as a professional basketball player is limited because you're probably not going to play in the NBA.

You may play in Europe. Why don't you chase as much paper right now in college hoops? And he's like, oh, you're right. I made a mistake. So I would imagine this is a negotiation that's going on. Most likely. Yeah, because there's been some rumblings that he may have had a change of heart. And again, he could have made it official like the other three did yesterday, but there was no word.

So I imagine that an agent did get into his ear, and he might be looking at other offers, and he may be listening to Virginia. I don't know the inner workings of what's going on behind the scenes. in terms of how if they're pursuing him or negotiating with him or what, but nobody knows that at the moment. But we can confirm that he hasn't officially said he's coming back. Grunlow, Chance Mallory, DeRitter is still a nice little nucleus. It is indeed.

and if they can convince Sam to return, it probably wouldn't be that hard. I mean, good God, pay Sam Lewis. Sam Lewis is a hell of a player. He is a hell of a player. Sam Lewis is a potential all-conference swing man in the ACC. Yeah. I mean, we on paper, conceivably, can have four pre-season all-conference guys.

Yeah. I mean, do you see that with those guys? Yeah, I mean, they all have that potential, no question about it. Yeah, I mean, I was looking at, it's four of their top six scores that would be coming back. If Sam does so, he was their second leading score, averaging 10 and a half a game. And second to Jakari in three-point shooting, he made 40. 3% of his three point shot. So,

I mean, that's, it was funny looking at the field of 68, which is an online basketball publication that has some really good writers like Jeff Goodman, who knows a lot of people

in basketball. And they came out with their way too early top 25 for next year. And Virginia was ranked number nine. Number nine on that one, number 10 on another one. Yeah, and I think number eight by somebody else. Yeah, I saw eight, nine, and ten.

And the one that they were ranked number ten in the way too early top 25 did have Sam Lewis returning. Yeah. Which was based on Lewis's comments after the loss to Tennessee. Right. Let's just, we're going to, for the sake of a talk show, Mallory at the one,

the two is open. Malik Thomas and Jacari White are out. Let's say for the sake of a talk show, Lewis at the three, Derritter at the four, Grunlow at the five. Immediately you need a slashing, scoring, two guard.

Exactly. Immediately you would need a big man to back up Grunlow, because we saw the upside of having you go and Grunlow at the five. Right. I need a more physical presence in there, and I'm sure he'll be

more physical next year, but you still need somebody like that. 100%. Because Grunlow is more of a stretch five where Ugo was a rim protector five although Grunlow posted a lot of blocks I'm not knocking Grunlow by any means He just not, they didn't have

the strength at this point of his career. Yeah, I mean you had a 19 year old versus Hugo who was a 22 year old, 23 year old. Yeah. The Barksdale kit, is it Barksdale? Silas Barksdale. Silas Barksdale. Who redshirted I think he's got a lot of upside.

He does. He's like 6.9 to 30, something like that? He's springy, he's long. Yeah. He's got the... Stronger than a year ago. Right, redshirted. I'm not, and this is not hate in any capacity on Elijah Gertrude.

I'm not sold on Elijah Gertrude. This is starting to, because Elijah Gertrude's talent is not that of a jump shooter. Or at least he hasn't proven that to fans. Yeah, more of a slasher. Slasher. Yeah. Yeah. And he's, he's, I'm...

I don't know if he lost some of his springiness. I don't think he has. Following the knee injury, you think he's still springing? Yeah. Okay. I saw him elevate a couple times this year that blew me away. Okay, okay. Is Gertrude you're starting to?

I don't know. I don't know if he's planning on staying and fighting it out or looking for something else. But he was caught in a log jam with so many guards on. team last year. There's only so much playing time to go around and those other guys were experienced more proven qualities, quantities on in college basketball. So he kind of had to wait his turn. Whether he's patient enough to stay and fight for a job in playing time, I don't know. But that's a possibility. Certainly.

Transfer portal, rumors, rumblings, Ryan Odom's team, or follow-up question to that, the timeline of what fan base can expect for the transfer portal and how it applies to jerry rackliff.com. Yeah, well, I know that he had staff analytics, and they have good analytic people over there that have been doing their home. homework. You can't wait until the portal opens to see who you might go after if they become

available. And I mean, he has eyes everywhere. He has people like Wally Walker who's been a general manager of an NBA team who observes players. Jeff Jones is one of Ryan's best friends and as chairman of the NIT selection committee and did a lot of viewing of those NIT teams where there's a lot of really good mid-major players. I'm sure he's kept a sharp eye out for potential candidates, and he's got his own staff and himself, his dad, for goodness sakes,

watches a lot of college basketball. So there's a lot of eyes out there, scouring the country for talent. And I imagine there's a lot of guys who have entered the portal who would like to be on a program like Virginia. I mean, it's a 30-win team. Play exciting basketball. There's a playing time for nine or ten guys.

You've got at least three starters coming back. So I would, and there's plenty of NIL support. facilities are great. You're playing in the ACC. I wouldn't think it would be a hard lure to get some of these guys here unless all they're looking for is making all the money they can. And I think there's money here.

There is money here. Some people want more than... Right, right, 100%. I like the guy from Oklahoma who came here and never and signed with Virginia... I guess he signed. He was here for a day. He may have just committed. Yeah, and he didn't even visit grounds.

Yeah. And then he was gone to somewhere else, and then he left there. Actually left there and went somewhere else before all was said and done. So there's some of that out there. Yeah, 100%. Football, goodness gracious. Look at how much basketball has captivated the attention of Wahoo Nation. And Kenneth Knuckles, I know you're mentioning the UVA win over Duke this past weekend in lacrosse.

he's a huge lacrosse fan yeah those huge one they have now beaten in in back-to-back games men's lacrosse and large tiffany's team which in some ways was maybe you know left out to dry earlier in the season they're on a one two three four game winning streak

and back-to-back victories against number one norther dame and number seven duke the dukewin was in durham on saturday they have syracuse at syracuse the number five team in the country that game of 4 o'clock start on ESPNU. Lars Tiffany's team is playing well, Kenneth Knuckles,

and we know how much you love that football, that lacrosse program. A lot of folks asking about football, the transfer portal. Spring game is right around the corner. The 18th? 18th. This one's from Shift God 137 on YouTube. Does the kid who's got caught up in the legal issues, the wide receiver,

Does he get a shot to return to this program? Is that Edrin? Edron, yeah. I don't know. We haven't heard a peep from anyone since he was released on Bond, I guess it was, whenever that was. It's been several weeks ago. Hasn't been mentioned by the football staff in any capacity.

So I don't know, I don't, I don't even, I'm not sure if he's enrolled. I don't think he's enrolled, is he? His attorney is asking the case to be completely dismissed. The, and I'm just, you know, this is the, what happens in a courtroom is not my cup of tea. But according to reports from Hawson, who covers courts locally, the alleged victim told police, Amaral County police, her exact words, according to his reporting, I was not raped, her words on the record. Yeah.

And since that papered the record, or pepper to the record, Edron's attorney is now utilizing that transcript as reason to throw out the case altogether to dismiss the case. So that's about where we're at now. Well, if that case gives him a clean slate, I guess, but I don't, I guess, I don't know if he's enrolled in school or not. I can't remember if he dropped out of school or if he's still in school and just not on the football team. But I don't know.

I don't know what hoops he would have to go through to return to the team. or what his status is with the team other than that he's not on it, or what he would have to do to get back or if they want him back. Certainly they were counting on him to be a key cog in this offense. He's an absolute beast on the football field. I didn't think they used him enough last year, honestly. Great hands, physical. Very reliable receiver.

Yeah. And he's the kind of guy that can, make a difference in an offense like this one for sure when and they have a some good potential receivers in the program now but uh having a guy with this kind of experience and success would make them even better um but we'll just have to wait and see how that pans out 100% 100% um football news and notes i mean this just shows you how captivating basketball is that we're now in the the hour marker of our show, the end of our show, and we're still talking football, or just starting to talk football. News and notes, football, anything else that needs to get out there.

Your coverage on Jerry Ratcliffe.com for paying subscribers has legitimately been the best coverage possible with football. You've got stuff on Coach Rudd and his defense and how he wants him to get after the quarterback on Jerry Ratcliffe.com. If you're a paying subscriber, you're reading about a rebuilt secondary with some absolute alphas. in the starting lineup about MIMS, the wide receiver, pushing the group extremely hard, the wide receiving core.

My favorite story that you've published on Jerry Rackleft.com for paying subscribers was the recollection of you at the spring game when you coached during the George Welsh era. My favorite part of that story, and I'm not going to reveal the story because this is for paying subscribers where you paid was at $400.

for a limousine? Yeah, to take us 50 yards. To take you 50 yards. And this is when $400, $400 still is a lot of money, but this is when $400 was a ton of money. I know sports writers weren't paid a ton of money. Back in those days. $400 to take you 50 yards, Judy.

Yeah. Yeah, that was, I was coaching one team in Warren Swain, the play-by-play guy was coaching the other team. And we're friends and still our friends. He's retired in Florida now. but he said, Hootie, I'm going to bring my team on the field in a rescue, fire rescue vehicle,

and we're going to have the sirens blaring his coaching staff. And so I can't remember everybody that was on my coaching staff. I know Danny Wilmer was on it. Gosh, a bunch of other guys. But Phil Elmation was one of them. Gary Tranquale was one of them. So I said, well, I can't let him outdo me. How can I bring my coaching staff on the field to outdo that?

And so I hired a limousine that picked us up in the parking lot behind the, Brian Hall wasn't there then. It was just stands and not much behind the stadium. So you picked us up in the parking lot behind the stadium. and drove us to midfield and let us out. So, yeah, that was a rather expensive ride. I wasn't going to let him out, do me. I can only see you then in a limousine going 50 yards.

But I bet you're... Coach has got a kick out. I was going to say, I bet you were like the Cheshire cat with a sleeve of Ritz crackers and a tin can of cheese whiz. Happy is a cat right there. There's a few things that make me happier than a sleeve of Ritz crackers and some cheese whiz, viewers and listeners. I could eat that all day.

football, spring game, anything you want to offer, news notes, jerry rackliff.com, anything and everything. Well, now that the Chandler Morris thing seems to be out of the way,

he was denied his... You surprised by that? Injunction. I had an open mind toward it. I kind of thought he might get it because there's been about 12 other cases and they've gone like 50-50. I think the more you are in the south where football means more

might have more influence. I'm not sure a decision like this one would have gone on well would have gone well down in Tennessee or in Mississippi. I don't think the judge would have been looked on too favorably in either of those areas. Judge Whirl, the judge on this one. Yeah. But I thought it could go either way.

And I feel bad for Morris, who's essentially had a year of his career wasted on 26 meaningless, mostly meaningless snaps. I think he was hoping to build on that and have another outstanding career and perhaps launch himself into a better position professionally. another really good year might have opened some eyes for his possibilities. But now that that seems to be settled, Pribula and Holstein can battle it out.

And I think that will probably be one of the things to see in the spring game where things are, I mean, it's a spring game. It's hard to take too much of that seriously. But coaches will be looking for certain things. But, you know, the fans, for the most part, will probably be watching those two guys throw the ball and see what kind of quarterbacks they have potential to be. You are crushing it.

Your web traffic is through the roof. Subscribers are through the roof. You're crushing it. I'm sure you appreciate the support you're seeing from the readers and viewers. I can't thank you all enough for, I wasn't sure what was going to happen with my website because advertising is a tough world out there to try to survive off advertising these days. and I was looking, I was looking and maybe doing something else or even moving and going somewhere else and trying something else,

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