The I Love CVille Show With Jerry Miller! - UVA Ranked #16 In Nation, Hoos 5-Straight Wins; Virginia #16 Ranking Highest Since 11/2007 (Al Groh)

Episode Date: October 21, 2025

The Jerry & Jerry Show headlines: UVA Ranked #16 In Nation, Hoos 5-Straight Wins Virginia #16 Ranking Highest Since 11/2007 (Al Groh) A Look At The Cavs Road To The ACC Championship Is Tony Elliott In... Line For A Contract Extension? ACC Notebook: The Good, The Bad & The Ugly Will Florida State Fired Head Coach Mike Norvell? Malcolm Brogdon Retires From The NBA Vanderbilt Tops Virginia In Basketball Exhibition Hoos Host Villanova In Hoops Exhibition On Friday Jerry Ratcliffe & Jerry Miller were live on The Jerry & Jerry Show! The Jerry & Jerry Show airs live Tuesday from 10:15 am – 11:15 pm on The I Love CVille Network. Watch and listen to The Jerry & Jerry Show on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, LinkedIn, iTunes, Apple Podcast, YouTube, Spotify, Fountain, Amazon Music, Audible and iLoveCVille.com.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to the Jerry and Jerry Show, guys. My name is Jerry Miller. Thank you kindly for joining us. A pleasure to connect with you guys through the I Love Seville Network on a show that spotlights showcases the Virginia Sports Hall of Famer, Jerry Hootie Rackleaf, the namesake of Jerry Rackleaf.com. Today's show is going to be a doozy. Tony Elliott and Virginia football number 16 in the nation. The last time the Virginia football team has been. ranked this high was darn near close to a generation ago, November 18th, 2007 when Al Groh was
Starting point is 00:00:37 the head coach. That's 18 years. That's basically a generation right there. The last time Virginia's been ranked this high. We're going to talk about that on this show. We're going to talk Tony Elliott and this football team that's clicking on all cylinders as they head into a matchup on Saturday at high noon in Chapel Hill, North Carolina with Bill Belichick, who's two and four overall on O-N-2 in conference play. Listen to this. Virginia is a nine and a half point favorite in Chapel Hill on what is an ACC network game. We're going to talk teams to be the clear path for Virginia to the ACC championship. And I can't believe I'm saying this is Tony Elliott in line for a major contract extension at the end of this season. Boys, girls, it's a wild time to be a
Starting point is 00:01:25 cavalier fan. We'll talk Malcolm Brogden's retirement. We'll talk. We'll talk. the loss to Vanderbilt in the exhibition game. We'll talk the exhibition game that's upcoming against Villanova. We got recruiting to get there. Cam Robinson looks like one of the best players in the Atlantic Coast Conference right now. This linebacker is just an absolute beast. So much to cover, including a way, fighting ways to win the football game for Virginia football and Chandler Morris. Judah Wickhauer behind the camera, studio camera, two shot Jerry Rackleff. My friend, what a wild time to be alive right now for orange and blue fans yeah what a reversal from this time a year ago when uh and even back in the spring when we were talking about what a bad year it had been for
Starting point is 00:02:11 virginia athletics with the the football season the way it turned out the basketball season losing tony bennett then going through a coaching change and then the baseball program not making the tournament and look at everything now. It's completely opposite. It's absolutely Dej. It's Jekyll and Hyde. It is the complete opposite right now. Why don't we start with scatter shooting here with Jerry Rackleff. Where do you want to begin? I mean, James Franklin and Shane Beamer on a short list for the Virginia Tech job. I can't believe I'm saying Tony Elliott probably in line for a contract extension if things continue to go this way, just to keep the the piranhas for pursuing our head coach
Starting point is 00:02:56 and this wild and wacky world of college football. Debut Sweeney and Death Valley on the hot seat. Mike Norvell looks like he's completely out at Florida State. Bill Belichick may be out after one season in North Carolina. We may have four or five new
Starting point is 00:03:11 head coaches in the ACC here while the Virginia head coach, who is the favorite to lose his job coming into the season, is the one that may get the extension. Exactly. And I mean, It's just nuts. I think what there's at least 10, well, not power four,
Starting point is 00:03:30 but 10 Division I, FBS coaching vacancies already. And like you said, there's going to be a whole lot more before the season's over. We see the patients wearing thin and fan bases. And it's going to be a wild ride the rest of the way, I think. But, yeah, it's amazing that everybody was talking about. house hot Tony Elliott's seat was and and now the guy who knows what the way salaries are soaring and I mean he's underpaid yeah he yeah the way salaries are soaring he might be underpaid exactly and so who knows what could end up in his circle before this is over with
Starting point is 00:04:18 absolutely bananas they the Virginia football team beats Washington State on homecomings, only at Virginia's homecoming called homecomings, but hey, it's the school that calls freshman, sophomore, junior, and senior, first year, second year, third year, and fourth year, and the campus, the grounds, and the academic village and the rotunda, and a lot of other terminology. But that's what we love about Virginia. On homecomings, Virginia gets a fair catch, this is even tough for me to say, a fair catch on a kid. On a kid, kickoff after Virginia tied the game on Will Betritch field goal, the fair catch was called by the non-receiving player, which resulted in the ball being placed on the one-yard line deep in the
Starting point is 00:05:06 fourth period that translated into Cam Robinson safety in a go-ahead game-winning safety on the heels of a fair catch called by a non-receiving player. It was bizarre. And those are the kind of things that used to happen to Virginia, and they would lose games like that. But now they've won three games in a row in dramatic fashion, which Virginia fans were not accustomed to seeing. So they've learned how to win. But then again, you know, it all goes back to the transfer portal and bringing in guys with experience that have played a lot of football elsewhere and quality players and quality depth and it's showing up at the right times but yeah I mean it was interesting seeing how things evolved at the end there with Virginia's defense
Starting point is 00:06:02 putting pressure on Washington State backed up in its own end zone forced a interception that like you said by Pravard who has, I think, three interceptions already and put them in position to kick a field goal to tie it and then kept them backed up
Starting point is 00:06:27 because of that snafu with their special teams and took advantage of it. And that's, it used to be the way Virginia would lose the game, but now they're finding ways to win. And that's what good teams do.
Starting point is 00:06:41 And finding ways to win. That's what good teams do. And this team is six and one. They're five, they're, they're, they're, can you believe I'm about to say this? They're six and one overall. You don't want their ACC conference, right? Of course you do. They're undefeated in conference play at 3 and 0 in the conference.
Starting point is 00:06:58 Yeah, Virginia and Georgia Tech. I mean, Georgia Tech is 4 and 0. SMU still there. That's right. SMU is still there at 3 and 0, 5 and 2 overall for SMU. Virginia, a clear cut path, ladies and gentlemen. to the ACC Championship at North Carolina, Saturday, ACC Network, 12 o'clock kick,
Starting point is 00:07:16 travel to California, host Wake Forest, at Duke, might be the toughest matchup on paper, finish against Virginia Tech. Anything can happen around Thanksgiving with the Hokies at Scott Stadium. Last time this happened, Virginia Tech at Scott Stadium, the Hokies were stomping and dancing and stampeding on the Virginia 50-yard logo,
Starting point is 00:07:35 while the man who was operating the sprinklers doused them with sprinkler water. to teach them a lesson only for the lesson to be learned by the sprinkler operator after Carla Williams made him apologize within 24 hours after losing the game to Virginia Tech. Just a wild turn of events. That was a year, that was yesteryear. Today is the present, and this team looks like it has got a clear-cut path to the ACC championship. They really do.
Starting point is 00:08:00 I mean, their fate is in their own hands. I know that's somewhat of a cliche, but it's so true in this case with, and it's not like that it's a cakewalk because some of these other teams that still on the schedule can jump up and bite you and we've seen Wake Forest big people that you probably didn't expect them to Duke is they're dangerous especially at home they could have they could have won that Georgia Tech game they played pretty well for the most part Cal
Starting point is 00:08:43 is you know they're at home who knows they have potential Virginia was obviously favored and should win that game but it is cross-country and then as you said the Hokies and you know
Starting point is 00:09:01 who knows Bill Belichick you hope this is not the week that he finds a way to upset somebody because As bad as they have played, they did play better and probably should have won that game at Cal last Saturday night. And it's the South's oldest robbery. It's a big game. I don't know what kind of crowd they're going to have after they've been losing. But it's a potential pothole in the road to the ACC championship game. So you can't take anything for granted at this point.
Starting point is 00:09:42 I totally agree. Let's get to the Washington State game for a couple minutes more. 22 to 20, the victory on homecomings. Washington State was heavily underdogged in this one to the tune of 17.5 points. The line opened at 16.5. I think both you and I thought a 17.5 point line was just way too large. Way too large. It clearly showed that the retail better, the non-sharp or shark better, was infatuated with the Virginia story.
Starting point is 00:10:14 And a lot of the retail betting public was riding that Cinderella wave to inflate the line. Anyone that follows the team knows the program, new 17 and a half was too much. And it was a dog fight. This was a dog fight. It was a dog fight. Chandler Morris, not his best game. The offense struggled for maybe the first time, really struggled like this on the season. Even Jamari Taylor, who looks like one of the best tailbacks in the Atlantic Coast Conference, 2.8 yards per carry.
Starting point is 00:10:48 Offense didn't do much, but the defense really came up, especially in the second half. Tony Elliott challenged his team in the locker room to come out in the final two periods and play Virginia football. And Hootie Ratcliffe, they did just that. Yeah, and, you know, I think if anybody was paying attention and listened to what Virginia's coordinator said at midweek last week that this Washington state team had really improved. They used their by-week, made a quarterback change, a guy that's playing some pretty good football.
Starting point is 00:11:28 And their defense, you knew they were going to get better because that guy had won a national championship, maybe two, out at South Dakota State. And they play some pretty good football out there. And so even though it's a lower division, but you could see that they had made improvements, the way they walked into Oxford, Mississippi, and gave Ole Miss a run for its money, and could have won that game. They play some unique stuff on defense that gives people fits. And with the quarterback playing more confidently,
Starting point is 00:12:09 they're going to look back and see that this was a much better win than people were maybe giving them credit for it because Washington State was just improved. And you're right. He had no magic words at halftime, and he wasn't going to scream. And he told him, he says, I'm not, there ain't going to be a whole lot of screaming. And you just got to make a collective decision. If you want everything you want out of this season,
Starting point is 00:12:38 you're going to have to put in an investment in the second half and turn this thing around. And they did. And they did Tony Elliott after the game in the post game and the on-field interview. So that's a really good football team in Washington State. He made sure to say that Washington State was a really, really good football team. They found a way to win this contest.
Starting point is 00:12:59 Can we highlight the defense? stood out to you from a defensive front that was Devin Neal, Cam Robinson, James Jackson, Mitchell Melton, Jacob Holmes, Ethan Minter, just to name a few that were absolutely dynamic and dynamite. Yeah, Carter and some of the Jackson, some of the other guys. They really buckled down and they essentially shut Washington State down in the fourth quarter. Washington State had eight yards of total offense in the fourth quarter. And Virginia owned the ball for more than 10 minutes in the fourth quarter, which was sort of a reverse of what happened in the first half.
Starting point is 00:13:44 And they kept Washington State's offense off the field, and they just made big play after big play. And Cam Robinson has emerged into, if he keeps playing like this, he could be the ACC defensive player of the year. I mean, he's looking like a first round, first round, second round draft pick to me. No, absolutely. There were NFL scouts at the game Saturday night, and I dare say that some of them were there to see him. ACC defensive linebacker of the week, the last two weeks in a row, just making gigantic, enormous plays.
Starting point is 00:14:22 And I'll tell you, when Tony Ellis. Elliot, and those guys got his commitment a few years ago. They were celebrating over at the Meku Center. And Tony said that he wanted to build his program around this four-star kid who chose Virginia over Florida State in Tennessee, and now we can see why. Cam Robinson against Florida State, 10 tackles one sack. Cam Robinson against Louisville, 10 tackles.
Starting point is 00:14:55 an interception return for a touchdown. Cam Robinson against Washington State, eight tackles and the go-ahead safety to win the contest. Make a very legitimate argument, this may be the best player in the football team, Cam Robinson. Very well could be. And how many games did he miss? The first game was against Stanford in limited capacity.
Starting point is 00:15:19 He didn't play against NC State. Didn't play against William and Mary? I don't think so. No, he did not. I think Stanford, he finally came back and played sparing. Limited, yeah. So really, this guy's played three full games. If this guy is playing the entire season, you're probably, and I understand the importance
Starting point is 00:15:38 of Chandler Morris, but this guy probably is your best overall player on the team. If he's chalking up and racking up against Coastal and William and Mary and NC State and playing a full game against Stanford, the totals. And on the season, he's got 35 tackles on the season. he's got a sack, he's got a fumble recovery, he's got a pick that he returned for a touchdown, the go-ahead safety. I mean, those numbers look completely different. Maybe the only reason he's not the defensive player of the year is because he missed those games to start the campaign and didn't rack up the cake statistics or the puffery from a statistic standpoint.
Starting point is 00:16:14 Now Virginia football turns their attention to a Bill Belichick football team that is a shadow of what folks thought they may be in the beginning of the season. To say that North Carolina is reeling as an understatement, Belichick has to do midweek press conferences, not about his opponent, but about the fact that he's committed to Chapel Hill long term, and at that press conference, the school chancellor, the athletic director,
Starting point is 00:16:41 and board of visitors members are in attendance to give the perception of unification. Yeah, as long as I've been in this business, I've never seen that before at any school. And I've covered five or six different schools, but that's, that had to be mind-boying to see those guys roll into your press conference. But, yeah, you know, it's bizarre because you keep hearing all these weird stories coming out of Chapel Hill about Lombardi, the Lombardo, the general manager that nobody can stand the guy.
Starting point is 00:17:24 all kinds of friction and stuff that they're having to shoot down with not really press releases but just statements that, you know, that it's an exaggeration. We don't know whether it is or not. But, you know, the fact that Chandler Morris wanted to, was interested in playing at Carolina and Lombardo told the staff down there, according to the athletic, that he wasn't good enough to play for Carolina. And I'm sure that's a point that Chandler Morris will try to drive home Saturday in Chapel Hill.
Starting point is 00:18:07 This contest is one where Vegas sees Virginia as, again, a heavy favorite on the road in Chapel Hill. Virginia, nine and a half point favorite over unders at 51.5. a little different than the Washington State game where the line open at 16 and a half and then ballooned to, I guess, increased to 17.5. This line opened at 10.5, or excuse me, excuse me, I stand corrected. This line opened at 9.5 and has ballooned to 10.5.
Starting point is 00:18:37 So it's actually upticked the betting line from 9.5 opening to 10.5. I'm looking at it now. It seems straightforward to me. Keys to Victory for this Virginia football team. establish the run, establish the run, establish the run, keep Chandler Morris safe, protected and upright in the pocket, and then play action once those safety start looking to defend the run,
Starting point is 00:18:59 and then Morris can go over top with some very deep, wide receiving core. Yeah, and Carolina's offenses ranked 131 out of 134 schools. So even though they did make some strides at Cal the other night, It's still an offense that is struggling. And I think Virginia's defense will be trying to tee off on Gio Lopez and some of their other players. But I think it's going to be imperative that Virginia regains its offensive form. They came out sluggish after that by week against Washington State. who was better than giving credit for,
Starting point is 00:19:48 but they want to try to get off to a fast start like they had been and get that offense rolling early so that they won't have to sweat it out in the fourth quarter. Comments coming in faster than I can keep up. Let's go to the YouTube channel. Cliff Dasey's watching on the eastern shore. He says it's a warm morning and greetings from the eastern shore. He watched the entire game thinking they would lose this group
Starting point is 00:20:15 does not give up. Can't wait for the Wake Forest game because he will be there. First time he's able to attend on the season. He also agrees with another commenter on the YouTube chat box, Derek Jones, that the Virginia Tech matchup is the toughest on the schedule that's left because the Hokies do not fear Virginia, regardless if Virginia Tech has inferior talent. Daisy agrees with Jones on this. We know Virginia Tech, the history, and boy, it's a sour history for Virginia fans when it comes to Virginia Tech. On paper, however, the toughest matchup that's left on the schedule, at least from an on-paper standpoint.
Starting point is 00:20:54 And trust me, as a guy that's been following Virginia football since I was knee-high to my dad who went to UVA, I went to UVA, my brother went to UVA, we live in Charlottesville. I understand the history of the Virginia Tech on paper. The second to last game at Duke in Durham is the most challenging one. The Blue Devils, four and three overall, three-in-one in conference play, and kind of on the outside looking in for the ACC championship. At this point, Georgia Tech, Virginia, and SMU,
Starting point is 00:21:21 the only unblemished ACC teams. What do you make of the rest of the schedule, Jerry Hooty-Rackliff, with a lot of people asking for your opinion? Well, I agree. I think the Duke game is probably the toughest of what's remaining because they're playing good football. down there and they've spent a lot of money in the portal too and they have a good team they have been they haven't uh they were ahead of virginia in that regard for a couple years and
Starting point is 00:21:56 uh their their environment at uh at their stadium has gotten much better in the past year to with mani dyes getting uh things going uh The guy that's at Texas A&M now was there before and turned things around. But they've been good. They could have won that game against Georgia Tech last Saturday. But Tech, again, I think, as we talked about last week, I think Haynes King was the difference in that game. And but Duke is very capable. And at three and one in the conference, they're still in the running to make it to Charlotte.
Starting point is 00:22:43 So if they can remain with just one loss heading into that game, that, you know, that's a very dangerous football team playing at home. We don't know what kind of shape the Hokies are going to be in at the end of the season right now because they still have some tough games ahead on their schedule. They could be reeling by the time they get to the end of the season and coming to Scott Stadium. So we don't know. Normally that's a brutal rivalry game, but if they're in, they may be so demoralized at that point that it may not be the usual tech team that shows up. William McChesney wants some insight, if you don't mind, on the Virginia Injury Report. And I think it starts on special teams with a dynamic returner,
Starting point is 00:23:38 who's also a key contributor with the wide receiving corps. Anywhere do you want to go on the injury report? Well, again, as usual, on Tuesdays, we won't know anything until we talk to Coach Elliott at 1130 today. I think Cam Ross got banged up pretty good in that controversial call that looked like it was targeting to me and to most other people are watching the game. It's a clear-cut definition to targeting.
Starting point is 00:24:11 It's such an inconsistent call by officials. I wish they could clear that up somehow going forward. But I think Chandler Morris is a little more beat up than we realize, and I think that shoulder injury suffered in the first game of the season still bothers him a little bit. so I think somebody landed on that in this game but he's a gamer and he's a warrior and he's not going to back off at all.
Starting point is 00:24:47 James Madison makes that point. He says, is it just me or does Chandler Morris look like he's playing injured? He hasn't looked the same since Florida State. He seems to be missing throws he's always made earlier in the season and he looks like he really doesn't want to run the ball. What do you guys think? I see a lot of that, Hootie. I think they don't want him to run the ball anymore than he has to
Starting point is 00:25:07 but I don't think there's any reluctance there I think he is playing hurt and I don't know that they'll confirm that but because you don't want to tip off other teams although they should be able to figure that out by watching film the way coaches break film down but you know I think he'll probably be fine this week and come back and return to his normal self.
Starting point is 00:25:37 I think the rest of laying off a week in a bi-week like that, sometimes you lose your momentum. And even though it was good for them in terms of getting some bodies back and stuff, I think it slowed their momentum a little bit because that was – that offense was rolling. And they need to get that cranked back – up again early against the Tar Heels this week. Comments continue to come in.
Starting point is 00:26:08 This comment comes in from outside Atlanta, Georgia, where there's a lot of Virginia football fans. This is an interesting comment. With the changes that are being made in the ACC, does Virginia think about extending Tony Elliott before the season ends so they don't risk potentially losing him? I don't think they'll have to. I think he has a.
Starting point is 00:26:32 really unique bond with Carla Williams because she showed a lot of faith in him and I think there's a really strong bond between those two. That was, he makes a point to acknowledge her and thank her after some of these wins that they've had lately down in the tunnel there. but no I don't think there'll be a mad dash to extend him and even if there would be I'm not sure we would know about it until later who knows but I mean if the guy continues to win like this you know that people are going to come after him because if you turn Virginia around after three seasons like they had the lowest win total of any power four school over the past three years
Starting point is 00:27:32 and you turn them around and get eight, nine, ten wins or something, there's going to be people knocking on your door and I wouldn't be surprised if some people are already talking his agent just to put out feelers because that's the way this world is right now in college football. And so, but I don't think that they're going to make a mad dash to do anything before the season is over. I think they'll kind of play it out. But I wouldn't expect them to extend things too long after the season's over. I think because of the very threat of other people knocking on the door, you don't want to take chances. But, again, I think the bond is so strong between Tony and Carla that I think most likely he'll say, I ain't going anywhere.
Starting point is 00:28:37 So you don't have to worry about me. Comments, this is an interesting one. And I'm wondering the same, and it's crazy I'm saying this, but is Tony Elliott. can be on the short list for other jobs? Well, yeah, I'm sure he will be, just from what we just said. He has the least amount of wins in power football for his first three years on the job. Yeah. This year, an anonymous donor invests how much money is the rumor?
Starting point is 00:29:10 Well, we know it was $25 million, but I heard this past week that somebody said it could have been up to 40 million so I don't know that but that's a rumor it's a rumor it's a rumor he then goes Virginia and this collective they go and essentially buy a football team where 40
Starting point is 00:29:32 40% plus of the roster is brand new talented guys who get paid to play now he's we're not there yet but contending at this point of the season that's fair for an ACC championship that's very fair that six or seven games even if he makes the ECC championship is enough to supersede the first three years I think in the minds of people who are shopping it will be because you had to look at the reversal
Starting point is 00:30:02 you have to look at what he has been able to do when he had the revenue or the funds to to rebuild the team they knew what to do with them with the money. They did a great job in the portal of finding the right kind of players that fit, which was a little harder here than it is at most schools because they had to fit academically as well as athletically. You got to remember that Tennessee tried to hire him, well, it depends on who you believe. Some people at Tennessee say they didn't, but we heard that they did try to hire him away from Clemson a year or two before he came to Virginia that he was being courted by some other schools and he came from Clemson which had incredible
Starting point is 00:31:04 success so you add all those factors together and I think yeah I think people will be coming he's probably on the short list. of some some A-Ds out there right now, but doesn't mean they'll get him, but I think that people will approach his agent
Starting point is 00:31:25 to find out if he might be willing to talk. I don't, and I don't think he will be. ACC looks like it could be a completely different coaching hierarchy. I mean, now,
Starting point is 00:31:40 going into next season, let's talk, Virginia Tech. replaced their head coach. They have an interim there. Endroom, yeah. Virginia Tech is pursuing Frank Beamer's son, Shane Beamer, who seems to have potentially lost the fan base at South Carolina. The team is underachieving, had high expectations going into the year.
Starting point is 00:32:03 Shane Beamer is saying all the right things. He's committed to being the Gamecox football coach. He loves it here. Virginia Tech is going to, your words, one of your favorite phrases, roll up and open up a Brinks truck. for Shane Beamer to take over for a Virginia Tech program than has it had success since Frank Bremer was there James Franklin's on the short list as well we're reading for the Virginia Tech job the Florida State job looks like it's about to open they go from being an
Starting point is 00:32:36 Alabama beater and Alabama's one of the best football teams in the country right now I still can't figure that one out literally one of the best football teams in the country the Crimson Tide, to now Florida State's three and four overall, O' and four in conference play. Mike Norevel and his staff have a, when you include the staff, at the end of the season and the head coach, a buyout worth of $70 million,
Starting point is 00:33:01 which is absolute insanity. Bill Belichick, who knows what's going to happen there, especially if the season goes terribly the rest of the way with how morale and the fracture locker room and all the other soap opera that's going on there. Daveu Sweeney, I'm a huge Sweeney fan. He's won what, two national championships? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:24 How many ACCC championships? No, I can't even count them all. There's so many. More than I can count. Yeah. But Death Valley wants him out. He's three and four, two and three in conference play. Boston College is one in six, oh and four.
Starting point is 00:33:37 They're atrocious. Absolutely atrocious. Stanford is going to have a changeover. Stanford's got an interim in Frank Wright. Andrew Luck's been brought in the GM to hire a head coach. You got Syracuse that's, now they had some bad luck with their starting quarterback and a knee injury, but there are three and four, one and three. A lot of people like Fran Brown too.
Starting point is 00:33:59 So, you know, he won't, if they make a decision to get rid of him, he won't have any trouble finding another job. He'll find a job in a heartbeat. He's a player's coach. Yeah. This could be a completely different. coaching look in the Atlanta Coast Conference? It really could be.
Starting point is 00:34:18 And I mean, it could be madness by the end of the season or December, early December. It makes it interesting. That's for sure to follow what's happening. And there's so many, the bizarre thing is it's so many of the good programs that are floundering, this and it's just amazing it's stuff we never thought we would see that's for sure we never thought we'd see Clemson North Carolina Florida State I mean yeah we probably thought it with Virginia Tech because we knew they were severely underfunded but not Clemson North Carolina Florida State no they have plenty of money so much money
Starting point is 00:35:04 and especially with what the expectations were before the season started Jeremy Wilson in eastern Tennessee is Tony Elliott on the short list that Clemson if Sweeney continues to struggle? That's a good question. I don't know. Some of the fans there were not really crazy about Tony at the end, but when he was flirting with other jobs and then came here. So I'm sure he had those who were in his corner, but there was a lot of stuff on their
Starting point is 00:35:40 message boards and stuff. like that where they didn't mind seeing him leave. So I'm not sure that he would be on the short list to come back. I would think if
Starting point is 00:35:57 Clemson's going to hire somebody, they're going to have to hire somebody that's a proven guy on the Power 4 level, somebody that's and there's not a lot of those guys out there. Right.
Starting point is 00:36:12 Somebody that's done it year after year after year instead of just one season one season yeah rob gray watching the program i don't think teams will be beating down coach elliott's door until he has multiple years of success then on a completely different page jennifer who's watching in uh allen town pennsylvania makes this comment tony elliott absolutely is going to be on the short list for a lot of jobs it's of what have you done for me lately world yes college football she's right Um, so you have two, you know, two different viewing points or viewpoints of what's happening in this sport. Regardless, your take on some of these buyouts, hoody, Franklin, 48 million, Norvell and his staff north of 70 million.
Starting point is 00:36:59 These buyout numbers are in, the Indiana head coach. 93 million over eight years. It's gotten out of hand. And, uh, I mean, we thought it was a lot when Nick Saban was getting 10 million. but as one AD told me back before, well before Sabin even decided to get out of the sport. Having Nick Sabin in your head coach's office is like a permit to print money because he was bringing in so much revenue into the University of Alabama. But we thought that was a lot of money, but now it's gotten advanced to even more disproportionate.
Starting point is 00:37:43 numbers that are mind-boggling. I mean, these are pro-football numbers, maybe even beyond some pro-football numbers, that we're seeing emerge in this wacky world that we're living in right now. And it's just going to continue to grow and become even almost obscene what the kind of numbers that are being thrown around out there.
Starting point is 00:38:11 Chris West, watching the program, he says, let's hope Virginia Tech doesn't get James Franklin because he has a history of recruiting in the Commonwealth, the Mid-Atlantic, the same type of guys that UVA goes after. He spoke on college game day this past weekend, and he said his objective, James Franklin, is to immediately get back into coaching. His exact words, I have no hobbies. I don't play golf. I don't fish. All I do is coach football. that's my life his exact words yeah and a lot of these coaches are like that and he um and it's been that way for a long time george welsh was like that he didn't have any hobbies really either so
Starting point is 00:38:55 um and i think part of his 48 million buyout is uh attuned to him seeking another job i don't I think if he just decides to sit out, I don't think he gets the whole money. And he does have strong roots. I mean, he was on Ralph Regents' staff at Maryland and recruited Virginia back in the day. So it's, he does, he is a threat recruiting-wise if he would end up in Blacksburg. No question about that. Comments continue to come in. We got, he's got a press conference at 1130, so in about 60 or 90 seconds.
Starting point is 00:39:39 You got Malcolm Brogden. I know, it flies by, right? I can't believe it's 11 o'clock. 45 minutes is flown by in 4 minutes. I just looked at it for the first time. I got pinged. It notifies me to close the show at 11 because he has to haul ass to the press conference and fine parking. 60 seconds left, please, your beautiful brain here.
Starting point is 00:39:59 The Lost to Vanderbilt and the exhibition, Villanova on the horizon, and a Malcolm Brogden. in retirement. Yeah, I thought the Vanderbilt game was interesting. There were some things that gave Ryan Odom and his staff to work on in the week leading up to this Friday night's Villanova game. They had trouble keeping Vandy out of the paint. Vandy handled their press well, and Ryan said, forward that it takes time to get that press down it did at VCU and it'll take time here
Starting point is 00:40:42 and I'm sure he'll get that resolved before the season gets too deep. I think we'll see a lot of changes in terms of their being better prepared to keep people out of the paint when Villanova comes to town. and Malcolm Brogden was a saint at the time he was here helped put Virginia on the map with Joe Harris was a guy that they recruited by almost by accident Richie McKay told me he was at a tournament looking at somebody else and kept noticing Brogden and said I got to get this kid
Starting point is 00:41:25 and then found out that he had only been offered by Ivy League schools and had to convince his grandmom that Virginia was a better place for him than Harvard. But what a classic young man he was, one of the few guys that has their number retired at Virginia, and he's not a one-dimensional person. It's not just about basketball for him. We'll see him making headlines in some other world going forward. I think it's politics. Politics is a strong possibility.
Starting point is 00:42:01 Yeah, I think it's politics. Jerry Rackleff, guys, Jerry Rackleff.com, Jerry Rackleff, Jerry Rackleff.com. I'm on the website every single morning, literally every morning. Today it was over iced coffee and some frosted strawberry pop tarts. While I was reading Jerry Rackleft.com, our youngest son was having a hard time getting dressed, so there were no bacon and eggs this morning.
Starting point is 00:42:26 but the Pop-Tarts did well. Go to jerry racklick.com, read everything UVA related. Judah, Rick Wickhauer, behind the camera, the MVP, this show archive wherever you get your podcasting content. Thank you, Kylie, for joining us. So long, everybody. That show flew by. Cool.
Starting point is 00:42:42 That really did. Thank you. Thank you.

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