The I Love CVille Show With Jerry Miller! - UVA Shocks World, Upsets FSU At Scott Stadium; After UVA Win & What's Next For Hoos & CVille

Episode Date: September 29, 2025

The I Love CVille Show headlines: UVA Shocks World, Upsets FSU At Scott Stadium After UVA Win & What’s Next For Hoos & CVille Cav Daily Reporting On UVA’s Lack Of PILOT Program Tubby’s Reopening On October 3rd On High St. Bluebird Landscapes Replacing Wicked Hits On Harris St. Salvation Army Fundraising Struggling To Meet Donations Ready To Invest In F&B or Experiential Biz (DM Me) Exec Offices For Rent ($350 – $2600), Contact Jerry Read Viewer & Listener Comments Live On-Air The I Love CVille Show airs live Monday – Friday from 12:30 pm – 1:30 pm on The I Love CVille Network. Watch and listen to The I Love CVille Show on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, LinkedIn, iTunes, Apple Podcast, YouTube, Spotify, Fountain, Amazon Music, Audible, Rumble and iLoveCVille.com.

Welcome to the I Love Seville Show, guys. My name is Jerry Miller. Thank you kindly for joining us Monday afternoon in downtown in Charlottesville. And boy, do we have a lot to talk about. How about that Virginia football victory? Goodness gracious, the world saw Tony Elliott and Virginia football shock and stun. The Florida State Seminels right here in Charlottesville at Sky Stadium. And that dominated the sports news cycle for a 24-hour period of time in a new cycle,

especially sports, that is very fickle with its coverage. It will offer coverage to something in the moment, and that coverage is short-lived. That was far from the case for Tony Elliott in Virginia football. For a 24-hour period of time, Tony Elliott and Virginia, the talk and toast of the country and the college football ecosystem. We'll talk about that victory, including Chandler Morris, including the embattled head coach Tony Elliott, his offensive coordinator, Des Kitchens. We'll talk about Chandler overcoming three interceptions. We'll talk about the nail-biting fashion of the victory. We'll talk about the significance of the win historically. We will talk, ladies and gentlemen the economic impact currently and moving forward for virginia football and a successful

product on the gridiron will talk the storming of the field 19 people injured 50,000 fine the 50k fine small potatoes peanuts for the brand exposure generated from that storm stampede ladies and gentlemen the 19 people injured that certainly is something some reports of one female student with two broken legs from that stampine. Regardless, a proud time to be a Virginia fan. Your head's held high, your chest out on this Monday afternoon, guys, with Virginia in the top 25 of one pole right now in a matchup with the Louisville Cardinal, ladies and gentlemen, except for this weekend in Louisville. A lot we're going to cover on the program. We will talk tubby's reopening on High Street.

We will talk on today's show, the Cavalier Daily, up in the heat on UVA with its lack of payment in lieu of taxes program, owns a boatload of real estate. Judah, you're going to put that in perspective with the Cavalier Daily article and what it owns and its significance when we get to that story. And we'll talk Bluebird Landscapes, taking over the real estate, the lease for wicked hits on Harris Street. And ladies and gentlemen, the Salvation Army struggling to meet fundraising goals, the same Salvation Army that is a key player in this homeless epidemic that Charlottesville is experiencing,

one of the few providers, one of the few purveyors, one of the few partners willing to help solve or quarantine or alleviate the homeless epidemic that's happening in Charlottesville. And right now they're struggling to meet. fundraising dollars. A lot we're going to cover on the program. We want to give some love to Charlottesville Sanitary Supply. Sixty-one years in business, John Vermillion, Andrew Vermillion, and the Vervillion family is five generations strong in Almoreau County. The Vermillion Business, Charlestful Sanitary Supply, is three generations strong. You could find it online at Charlestfulanitary Supply.com and on High Street, their brick and mortar, where they have some of the

best customer service that's out there. Pool robots. If they're broken, they have a mechanic on site that will help you repair them. Your vacuums, they're expensive. If they're broken, they will help you repair them. Anything swimming pool related, they will help keep that water healthy and clean. Anything product related for sanitary strategies or purposes, you go to Charlottesville Sanitary Supply in person or online at Charlottesville Sanitary Supply.com.

Keep the businesses in operation, the businesses we want to see survive another 61 years. And this honest business is certainly one of them. A lot to cover on the show. Judah Wickauer's studio camera, please. And from studio camera, I will welcome you on a two-shot. So much to unpack with the UVA storyline, my friend. A shocking victory over the Florida State Seminels, a top 10 football team.

In double overtime. In double overtime, my friend. My wife watched it from start to finish. nail-biting capacity, a stampede that is one for the memory, a stampede that is one for maybe generational significance, a stampede that left 19 injured, the $50,000 fine, small potatoes. The second fine that comes 100,000, small potatoes. The third fine that comes, small potatoes. The third fine that comes, small potatoes. highlights that aired on ESPN, ESPN2, game day, sports center, you name it, Instagram, social media, the brand equity and that return on that exposure is significantly more than

the $50,000 fine. I will not trivialize 19 people getting injured. I think Virginia certainly has to figure out a strategy, UVA, for future stampedes that may or may not happen. and if there's another stampede that could happen for this Virginia football team, probably looking at the Virginia Tech game, if that's going to happen. We know the history with the University of Virginia with Virginia Tech. Still, the positives are plentiful, the positives are bountiful, and we should start with them. I'd like to highlight, and you jump in. I know college football, not necessarily your cup of tea,

but you're a man who, like me, studies human behavior. storylines and trends that we can talk about on on on on the show first tony elliott we have to start with the football coach tony elliott entered this season his fourth season in charlottesville make sure we get those lower thirds on screen please too judah tony elliott his fourth season in charlesville he entered with the least amount of victories of any power football coach over the last three years You can make a convincing argument that UVA was the bottom of the barrel of any power football team over the last three years. The wins is a data point that backs that statement up, the least amount of them. He entered this year with a completely revamped roster.

40% of the roster, roughly, new to Charlottesville, accumulated through the transfer portal, Virginia football roster brand new. His assistant coaches embattled. His assistant coaches under fire just like Tony Elliott himself. His offensive coordinator, Des Kitchens, was literally on the cusp of being hung in effigy. And here, ladies and gentlemen, through the first five weeks of the season, Virginia football finds themselves at four and one overall and two in O in ACC play and ranked in the top 25. they were a whiskers hair away Virginia football from starting the season 5 and 0 and 3 and 0 or 2 in conference play

because the loss to NC State, despite being an ACC team, was technically an out-of-conference game. We must start with the praise and props by directing it to coach Tony Elliott. He's gone through so much in the three years he's been on the job. three of his football players murdered at the hands of another former football player another football player injured he's had fan base turn on him he's had empty seats at scott's stadium 30,000 fans half the stadium full was a success for most of his tenure now tony elliott through the first five weeks he's got virginia in the top 25 and coach elliott should be walking around town going into bodos bagels and people should be picking up his tab Coach Elliott should go to Riverside Burger and people should be picking up his tab. Tony Elliott should be going to the mill room and people should be picking up his tab. Tony Elliott, after that win against Florida State, should not pick up a food, lunch, dinner, breakfast, or bar tab for the rest of the year.

Incredible win. From Tony Elliott and Des Kitchens, the props and praise we just gave them, I think we have a superstar in the making, ladies and gentlemen, and Chandler Morris. He's got 10 touchdowns on the season, just four intercept. He's a gunslinger. Chandler Morris is going to make a mistake or two each game, but he's got a shooter's mentality in that he forgets the mistake quickly, gets back commands and controls the huddle, gets back in the pocket, and forgets the mistake he makes, and he leads the team to victory. We saw that with that pass to Xavier Brown. This guy is not just the face of the program. This guy is not just an improved version of Anthony Colleges. Landria. This guy is not the unquestioned leader of Tony Elliott's football team, but I'm telling you, if Chandler Morris was three or four inches taller, you're probably

looking at a first round draft pick here. He's got that much moxie. And I still think Chandler Morris is going to have an opportunity to play on Sundays. Do I think he's going to be a starter? I think that's a long shot. But I think Chandler Morris very well could hold a clipboard, and he clearly is a coach waiting to happen. His dad a football coach. you have depth in the wide receiving core you have so much depth that running back goodness gracious Virginia may have three starters first second and third string for Virginia and may have three starters ladies and gentlemen and this transfer from North Carolina this transfer Jamari Taylor who goes from lower levels of football this guy is a bona fide star

ladies and gentlemen Jamari Taylor is is a bona fide star now what's next for virginia judah you jump in here in a matter of moments uva has louisville on the docket and the louisville cardinal have uva's number and vegas knows this 3.30 kickoff october fourth saturday louisville plays host to tony elliott's team the cardinal seven and a half point favorites Louisville's not ranked UVA is still Louisville a seven and a half point favorite the line at 62 and a half another shootout UVA if they go into this matchup against Louisville ladies and gentlemen and if Virginia is able to shock Vegas and stun the cardinal and they've struggled to do so in years past then I'm going to say this and I know what I'm about to say may give you pause but you

UVA has a very good chance to potentially run the rest of the table. If they beat Louisville on Saturday, they have a buy week. Then on the 18th of October for homecoming, Virginia will host Washington State, where they will be a clear-cut favorite. Then they travel to North Carolina and the South's oldest rivalry. They traveled to California. They host Wake Forest, traveled to Durham to Face Duke, and of course Virginia Tech to close the season around Thanksgiving.

Thanksgiving. You beat Louisville. You very well could be a favorite in every game for the rest of the year and have a chance. I'm saying it's a chance. I'm not saying it's guaranteed to run the rest of the table. And if that is done, you have a Virginia football team that's playing for an ACC championship and a birth in a college football playoffs. And Tony Elliott goes from bottom of the barrel to on top of everyone's shoulders. From Popper, from Popper to Pennhouse, from doormat to Pennhouse. Tony Elliott goes from the flea bag motel to the Hilton. What a story. And we all appreciate a comeback story. And we should never underestimate the economic impact of this football. program. One of the true story lines no one is discussing is the economic impact that Virginia football has on this community. You have the Washington State game for homecoming, the Wake Forest game, and the Virginia Tech game all at home. Those games, if this team does well, should be sold out. And when you go from 30,000 people in Scott Stadium to 63, 64,000 people, that is a significant

economic impact. No doubt. Even when Virginia is on the road and they have road matchups Saturday with Louisville, they're at North Carolina, at California, and at Duke. That's the economic impact of people going to bars and watering

holes, ordering to go and catering food. And the momentum with Virginia going into basketball season with a brand new head coach. Do not underestimate the economic impact. Now, to the storming the stampede of the field.

Was it dangerous? Yes. Did you worry about Florida State wide receiver Squirrel White, who was still on the ground when thousands of people rushed over him? I did. I was like, where the hell is Squirrel White? Is he still alive? He's fine. All the players fine.

19 people injured, that should not be underestimated. That should not be marginalized. were told one of the injured a UVA female student who had both her legs broken in the stampede. That's crazy. The $50,000 fine, who gives a rat's tail? Who gives a rat's tail if they get fined again for beating Virginia Tech and storming Scott Stadium?

Who cares? The R.O.I. on that highlight going viral on TV, legacy media, and social media and digital media is 100 if not thousands X the 50K-5. Carla Williams and Virginia are going to have to figure out a way to contend, however, or to manage the stampede that could happen against Virginia Tech at the end of the year, however. Because if you beat the Hokies, 60,000 plus people will be storming Scott Stadium again. Mark that down.

Judah Wickhauer, show is yours. Where do you want to go? oh man well it's quite a turnaround and a wonderful story I'm glad to hear the UVA is doing well and weren't they the wasn't FSU favored seven point exactly the same amount six and a half Floresse favored at game time this Louisville matchup is a seven and a half point line okay I thought it was 7.5 at one point

seven point seven point to start the week on Monday seven so I'll give you that yeah absolutely so opening against Florida Florida State, Virginia, a seven and a half point dog. Opening line against Louisville, Virginia, a seven and a half point dog. The difference here, Virginia, the home team, you get three points for playing at home that drops the Florida State line to four and a half. Louisville gets three points for playing at home that inflates the line to 10. And a half.

Vegas is saying that Louisville, a clear cut favorite in the neighborhood of 10 and a half with the three points you get for playing at home. Keep going, Jay Dobbs. Hmm. That's it. You know, it's a great underdog story. Tony's bringing the team back, and it's good to see for UVA. It's good to see for Charlottesville. Like you said, the economic impact is, we'll just have to wait and see, but we're talking about, like you said, we're talking about, like you said, we're talking about. not just hotels and eating out when people come to Charlottesville, but people ordering out so they can watch the games at home. People going to bars to watch the games, it all adds up. So it's an exciting time for UVA sports. And that kind of leads us into talking about UVA paying money. Payment in lieu of taxes program.

Programming note, tomorrow's Jerry and Jerry show and Judah will air Wednesday at 10.15 a.m. Tomorrow's Jerry and Jerry show will air not in its traditional 10.15 a.m. slot on Tuesday, but we'll move for this week only to Wednesday at 1015 a.m. I have a conflict tomorrow that has important priority. So the Jerry and Jerry show spotlighting Virginia Sports Hall of Famer Jerry Hootie Rackleaf, who's covered this football program and this athletic department for more than 50 years. That show will air on Wednesday at 10.15 a.m. Cavalier Daily, Judah Wickhauer, set the stage, payment in lieu of taxes program.

Cavalier Daily, ratcheting up the heat on Virginia. I respect the independence of the student newspaper, the Cavalier Daily, and how it's unabashed and unafraid with its coverage of UVA. Yeah, they have long pushed, the students of UVA have long pushed for UVA to man up, so to speak, and pay their fair share. And, you know, there's an argument that UVA does a lot for Charlottesville just by being. Beating Florida State on football. And just by being UVA in the middle of Charlottesville and in Albemarle County, obviously it brings economic factors like students, teachers, you know, people living here, shopping here, but at the same time, there are arguments that it does more harm.

First of all, those teachers, and potentially some of the students at UVA, they are going to have their kids going to school somewhere, likely somewhere in Charlottesville or Aldmeral County. And the fact that UVA is not paying any taxes on, I believe, it's 97 swaths, this article. This, uh, 97 swaths, swaths of land, vast swaths, land that UVA owns and occupies and doesn't pay any taxes for, both from its, uh, from the foundation and the, uh, and the university itself. What's the, uh, the Cavalier Daily had an estimate there of tax collection yearly that it would be kicking to Almore County and the city of Sharps. Charlottesville. What was that estimate in that article?

They have it estimated that if the university was paying taxes on all of that land, the city would get about $20 million. City of Charlottesville would have $20 million incremental tax dollars yearly. Yeah. And that number would escalate because it's tied to assessed value. Yeah. Go ahead. Yeah. That's money that could help transform schools.

As I stated, the teachers who are living here. where else will they live, are going to be, the married teachers at least, the ones with kids, are going to be sending their kids somewhere. The fact that they are taking advantage of, and I don't mean taking advantage themselves in terms of not giving back, but I mean, the fact that they're using the public schools and the university is not helping in any way for that is questionable. and a lot of people, a lot of people have said that the university should be paying their fair share. All right, I'm going to offer my take. Before I offer my take, I'd like to highlight Conan Owen and Sir Speedy of Central Virginia.

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and you have an application for your logo, Conan Owen and Onan, Conan Owen of Surveedia, Central Virginia is who, ladies and gentlemen, you call. He's going to join us on the program. I believe Conan is set for Wednesday. I believe you're correct. And

we'll talk everything, business, related. He's fantastic on business development. He follows the pulse of this community as someone that does the signage for opening businesses that are opening and even the signage for businesses that are closing. So he's on the cusp of what's moving and shaken locally, like we try to stay on the cusp of what's moving and shaking locally. Wednesday for Conan at 12.30 p.m. on the I Love Ceevo show. Look, I get what you're saying. and I get what the Cavalier Daily is saying, and I'm going to do the devil's advocate.

I think the University of Virginia should do a token contribution tax-wise to Almore County and the city of Charlottesville. I think that token contribution does not necessarily have to be the actual tax value they owe based on their land holdings in Almore County in the city of Charlottesville

because UVA has a very firm argument to stand on without us, there is no, economic vitality in Charlottesville, now Marr County. Without us, your tax collection, your tax base would be considerably more diminished. Do what Harvard is doing with Cambridge

where they're doing some kind of token contribution to Cambridge. Michael Payne has tried to use PR, negative PR, to shame the University of Virginia into a pilot program, payment in lieu of taxes. The Cavalier Daily, this isn't their

first push with influences or trying to elbow the University of Virginia into a pilot program, I'm here to tell you that's not going to happen anytime soon. And the argument that UVA, its professors live locally, and because its professors live locally in the Charlottesville and Almore County, it's causing strain on schools, for example, because the professors' children go to Alamara County Public Schools or Charlottesville Public Schools.

Well, guess what? That same engine, the University of Virginia, is probably one of the largest drivers of the school budget in Charlottesville and Almore County. Right? How much of the school budget in Almorea, how much of the yearly budget for Al Morrow County in totality, how much of that yearly budget goes to public schools?

I think it's like 40%. And there's no contributor more significant outside of real estate rooftop to the yearly budget at Al Morrow County besides UVA. The top contributor that funds Alamara County's budget and the top contributor that funds the city of Charlottesville's budget, taxes on real estate. And it could be argued that the school should spend his money more wisely.

And the top, 100%, you know, well said. But if we're in agreement that the top driver of the budgets is real estate and assessed values, and the taxes that come from the tax rate and assessed values is number one for both budgets. I assure you a driver of that budget in the top five of contributions, is the University of Virginia, if not in the top three. So I see both sides.

I see both sides. And I also know that if the University of Virginia falls victim to this, then every other school in the Commonwealth is also going to have to follow suit. So this is a domino effect that's very significant. But I respect the Cavalier Daily's reporting without question. Comments coming in. This is from Vanessa Park Hill, the Queen of Earlysville. I was watching the game with family, and I made a comment.

I would have wanted to be the RMC event staff standing in front of the crowd on the hill. Vanessa Parkill, I told my hubby, if I was one of those RMC staff, I would have bailed my post. Georgia Gilmer highlights the fine for rushing. It's a new rule. The first offense is 50,000. The second offense is 100,000, and that includes men's and women's basketball. It does. I think that's an ACC rule, not an NCAA rule.

After two years, the slate is wiped clean on stampedes and rushing the field or the court. I'm still of the argument, however, that a court stampede or a gridiron rush, the value with the highlight being played on loop for 24 hours over and over again, the yield or the return on those clips is way more significant than the fine itself. Way more valuable. next headline juda wickhauer what do you got let's see we've got tubbies this is good news tubbies reopening tubbies reopening on high street 1982 tubbies has been around it's been an institution

tubby's posting on i love seville that they're reopening you may have seen it on social media as well. Here are the questions that I have. Are they reopening under the same ownership team that closed Tubby earlier this year? Because the team that closed Tubby earlier this year had a live auction take place the day after they closed inside the restaurant where the equipment was sold for pennies on the dollar. And the team that closed Tubby earlier this year, there was certainly financial duress with the business. Who are the new owners? Are they new? Are they the previous owners?

The next question I have is this. What's going to be different for this business versus how Tubby's previously was run? What's the old saying? If you do the same thing over and over again and you expect a different result, isn't that the definition of insanity? Usually is.

What will be done differently in this institutional 1982 launch and this business? You really think there's any chance that it's the, the same ownership? Well, I go, this is why I asked the question. I go to the Tubby's Seaville website, tubbyceiville.com.

Nothing has changed with the website and the team that owned it or were managing the restaurant, it's still the same photo on the hero slot on the above the fold photo on the website. So no image, graphics, branding change whatsoever.

You go to the about page, on the website, no about, you know, no change on the about page, nothing. So I don't have any insight or intel on this. Is anything changed on the website? Nothing has changed on the website. I would think that may just be a matter of time. Needing some time to change it. Is that what it is? Or maybe nobody can find the password to log in. I mean, it could be as simple as that. we do know that they're opening october 3rd october 3rd is friday 469 people shared their facebook post that they were opening again that's how beloved this brand is yeah this is a positive for the high street corridor no doubt this is a phenomenally

located restaurant with multiple entry points into that parking lot. I'd like to know what will be done differently. That's all I'm curious about. Because if the expectation is doing the exact same thing and having a profitable restaurant

when times have become even more challenging than since they closed, I don't see how the outcome is any different. Was that the reason they closed or was it just the reason any restaurant closes is the same not enough money okay right if the restaurant's making enough money unless there's absolute malpractice or malfeasance with ownership or management the restaurant's not going to close what are they going to do differently that's what i'm curious

about we should reach out to tubbies and see if we can get them on the show It would be a good conversation. Next headline, what do you got, Judea Wickhara? Next up, we have the Bluebird Landscapes. Replacing Wicked Hits. This is on, let's see. Here's the headline. On Harris Street.

Bluebird Landscapes is a gardening and landscape maintenance service committed to outstanding customer service that's on their website. They do weeding and edging, fine pruning, and perennial care, small-scale garden design, unique seasonal plantings. This is a gardening landscaping business. They're taking over for Wicked Hits. Wicked Hits was the place on Hairs,

Harris that stood out like a pun intended green thumb. Wicked Hits was the place you could go in there. It was almost like an underground casino. They had the slot machine games, which were the skill games. People were able to smoke the cheap inside. There were oftentimes police calls to trouble in that parking lot. It was basically an underground casino. That guy, into some trouble, police, crime, and also some running the business functionally. Now a landscape and gardening company is coming to Harris Street. I'm going to celebrate anyone that opens a business locally. I'm going to celebrate this one even more because the previous tenant, and I'm not trying to throw shade here, not necessarily the top contributor to the

Charlott's whole business ecosystem. So props to bluebird landscapes for opening a business on Harris Street and the old Wicked Hits location. And I'll tell you, kind of in this neighborhood, kind of in this category of business, a completely different one altogether. Oak Valley Hardscapes, they do hardscapes around houses. Let's celebrate them, Judah. New partner of the program, Oak Valley Custom Hardscapes.

custom hardscapes to fit any landscape and purpose, no matter how complex your hardscape installation may be, the team at Oak Valley Hartscape can deliver a beautiful custom outdoor living space for you to enjoy. Folks, they are local, a fantastic office on the downtown mall in the old Wells Fargo building. Oak Valley Custom Hardscapes, ladies and gentlemen, online at Oak Valley Oak Valley H.com, is that right, Juna? That's correct.

Oak Valley, LH.com, right? Is it LH? Comments coming in. Next headline, what do you got? Next up, we have the... we have the Salvation Army. Yeah, this is... They are expanding or trying to expand, which is a good thing.

They're doing a fundraising campaign. And their fundraising campaign is falling short right now. It has fallen short so far. There was the Q&A at Violent Crown, where it's business owners and real estate owners. Select few of us and Chief Kachis, Juan Diego Wade, and Sam Sanders. at the front of Violent Crown.

Sam Sanders highlights in this Q&A that Salvation Army is struggling with its fundraising goals. There's an interesting dichotomy that's happening in this community. We all want a solution for this homelessness, whether it's the low barrier shelter, whether it's the hand-up, whether it's moving them from the downtown mall to a better location. Everyone in some ways,

whether altruistic or whether for personal gain wants a solution to the houseless problem. One of the key players in this homeless solution is the Salvation Army. And they're struggling with their fundraising dollars. So like where is the rubber meets the road here? Struggling to meet your donation level. And these are the people that are entrusted or expected to solve one of the partners or vendors this homeless issue. issue. It's either sad ironing. It's either

double talk. Maybe it's the sign of the stretch dollar for people with donations. Still, the Salvation Army struggling to collect dollars. Yeah. I wonder where's the push from

the housing activist community? You would think that with all of their all of their organizing, they would be getting the word out and this money would be covered in no time. Yeah.

Why is the activism not centered around helping them fundraise? It's a great point. All right. Next headline, when do you got? I think that's pretty much it. Ladies and gentlemen, the Jerry and Jerry show is going to air Wednesday at 10.15 a.m. instead of its regularly scheduled period in time tomorrow. That's just for this week, Wednesday at 1015 a.m. with the Virginia Sports Hall famer Jerry Hootie Rackleaf. Office space needs.

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