The I Love CVille Show With Jerry Miller! - VA Supreme Court Kills Dems' Gerrymandering Plans; Congressional Maps Stay Put; Republicans Rejoice

Episode Date: May 8, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Well, folks, we are the water cooler of content and conversation in Charlottesville, Almore County, and across Central Virginia, the Commonwealth of the country in the world. Long-form content every day, at least Monday through Friday from 1230 to 1.30 on a show that sets the tempo and drives the new cycle for Charlottesville, Alamara, in Central Virginia. How do I know that? Because print radio on television is watching right now. How do I know that? because I talked about the Wall Street Journal and the Realtor.com report on the I Love Seville Network, and I published a graphic from the article showcasing Charlestville as the number three luxury market in the United States of America.
Starting point is 00:00:45 And then after I published this, and I had it embargoed for a couple of days, first I released it for I Love Seville Insiders and paying subscribers of our substack $8 a month, get you content. We published it on Monday. So from Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday, our subscribers were the first to know what was going on. Then on Thursday, actually Wednesday evening at the Thursday morning, we shared the content on our free platform. And within 12 hours after sharing it on the I Love Seabill Network and free capacity, television and legacy media started populating their news cycles with our content and what we, released. We understand the responsibility that comes with it. We encourage you, the viewers and listeners,
Starting point is 00:01:33 to help us share the gospel. There's a lot I'm going to cover on the program today, including the Virginia Supreme Court, killing a democratic effort of gerrymandering or redistricting the Commonwealth of Virginia. Congressional maps are going to stay put. Republicans are rejoicing. Democrats are crying. What does the Supreme Court of Virginia ruling mean for Charlottesville, Al Marl and Central Virginia. What's it mean for Tom Perry-Ello? What's it mean for John McGuire? What's it mean for you, the voters? What's it mean for rural and suburban Virginia?
Starting point is 00:02:13 What's it mean for Northern Virginia? Ladies and gentlemen, this was an even split. I think it was when it was all said and done, it finished above three points. So technically, I think I would have won the bat. after they counted all the votes. Let's see, what was the voting margin for the redistricting referendum in Virginia? See if you can give me that number.
Starting point is 00:02:44 Remember, I put the over under at three points, and I took the over. The Supreme Court, I want the percentage of voters. The Supreme Court in Virginia, in 4-3 decision, rejected a Democratic-backed ballot measure approved by voters in April that would have reconfigured the Commonwealth's U.S. House of Representatives
Starting point is 00:03:06 voting maps, districting maps. It would have given an overwhelming partisan edge to Democrats. State Senator Louise Lucas and her cronies were pushing this gerrymandering as a way to counter the efforts that were
Starting point is 00:03:25 being pursued and actualized in other states across our country. Democrats claim this was, you know, how did Don Gathers describe it? He said what MAGA and Trumpers are doing in Texas and Ohio and other states is a threat to independence and hypocrisy in the nation and is akin to dropping a nuclear bomb on the free world in our country. And as a result of this nuclear bomb that MAGA and Trumpers are pursuing Commonwealth, Virginia, and other states have to counterbalance the nuclear bomb by redistricting our respective state. That's basically how he described it. I hope Don Gathers is watching the program. And Don, you're always welcome on the show. Tennessee has just passed. Tennessee's passed. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:21 There's a lot we're going to cover on the program. I am neither a Republican nor a Democrat. I do not vote party lines. I do not vote. I vote for candidates. I don't vote for parties. I've voted for Republicans. I've voted for Democrats.
Starting point is 00:04:39 And I've voted for libertarians. And that's facts on facts on facts. I vote based on platforms and promises and campaigns and campaigns. and strategies and not party lines. And even Democrats who voted yes to the referendum were willing to admit that this gerrymandering was disingenuous and a foul of the rules. And today, as the host of this talk show,
Starting point is 00:05:11 with tens of thousands of people watching the program, I will say with confidence and conviction that gerrymandering and redistricting was wrong I'm glad the Virginia Supreme Court, in a tight 4-3 ruling, came to this decision. It's a decision that shows checks and balances still exist today. And this world we live in where one party is trying to ramrod the other party, and the other party is trying to stick it where the sun don't shine of their competition. Checks and balances are paramount and of the utmost importance.
Starting point is 00:05:57 And today, ladies and gentlemen, where I stand right now, the Virginians who want true independence, Virginians who want true balance of power, Virginians who do not want to bow down to King Fairfax or King Arlington or King Maclean or King Loudon County are celebrating because Northern Virginia is not going to dictate the pace and tempo of what happens in the Commonwealth. And the fallout of this decision,
Starting point is 00:06:46 the cause and effect of this decision is significant. Tom Perriello, a former congressman, the last Democratic congressman from the 5th District, His chances of winning, he's in the midst of running right now, are much more bleak than they were when we woke up this morning on Friday, May 8th. In John McGuire, whether you love him, whether you hate him, whether you don't know him, or whether you find him quirky and curious, he's now your frontrunner to be your congressman in the 5th District again. there is significant cause and effect with this ruling.
Starting point is 00:07:31 And trust me, I see how the ruling played out, four, three, with the Supreme Court Justice in Virginia following party lines in a lot of ways. The vote was tight, the Supreme Court ruling was tight, but checks and balances prevailed. And the Democrats that voted in favor of redire, redistricting and gerrymandering, you're angry, you're cursing me out, you're giving me the one-finger salute, you're spitting, you're infuriated with what I'm saying right now. But deep down, the Democrats that voted in favor of gerrymandering and redistricting, deep down if you were
Starting point is 00:08:12 honest with yourself, if you took a moment to navigate the emotion and the anger and the fury you're feeling right now. And if you composed yourself, then calm, yourself, you would deep down agree that what Senator Louise Lucas was doing, what Jay Jones was doing, and what this backroom wheeling and deal and in Richmond was doing, was disingenuous, a threat to freedom and independence, and in zero capacity, fair and equitable to suburban and rural, Virginia. The balance of power would have been absolutely shifted where the gentleman farmer or the southwestern Virginian or the Nelson County and the the Louisiana, the Louisiana County in would have had much little if any at all representation. I want to talk
Starting point is 00:09:23 about this on the program today. Judah Wickhauer, you're truly Jerry Miller. We'll give some attention to Charlottesville Sanitary Supply, 62 years in business for John Vermillion and Andrew Vermillion. Charlottesville Sanitary Supply has an e-commerce store where anything cleaning related will be delivered to your doorstep for free, oftentimes the same day at price points that the big box stores cannot beat.
Starting point is 00:09:49 Charlottesville Sanitary Supply.com. You're supporting a business and a family that's been operating a family-owned business for 62 years that's lived in Almar County for five generations. And their sister business, Charlottesville Sanitary Supply, Charlottesville Swimming Pool Company, excuse me, is who you call for anything swimming pool related. Anything.
Starting point is 00:10:10 Above ground pool construction, in-ground pool construction, water testing, pool robots, pool covers, anything. Charlotteswiswillingpool Company.com. Judah Wickhauer, studio camera, Judah Wickcower, two shot, trusted voice, a respected individual, my sparring partner, the second best day of the month for him. First day is a payday Friday. This is a non-payday Friday for the Jackabal Wits.
Starting point is 00:10:42 Where do you want to begin, my friend? I think I won't want to begin with the fact that I don't think that there's anything particularly worth celebrating about with this decision. Because everybody's angry, nobody's happy. our states are acting like a bunch of like a bunch of children. Why are the Republicans not happy here? Oh, I'm sure. The folks who voted against the referendum. You said nobody's happy.
Starting point is 00:11:14 How are Republicans who voted against this referendum not happy? I'm sure they are. What I said is there's nothing to be excited about. I don't think, at least not for me. Because this is not, I mean, yes, I appreciate the fact that they struck down the ruling, that they struck down the vote. But the problem I see is that Texas is doing it, Tennessee is doing it, all these other states are doing it. You can say what you want about Jerry and I, but I am not a fan of hypocrisy.
Starting point is 00:11:53 And so I'm not going to cheer Tennessee going through with their redistricting and cutting out Democrat seats. I'm not going to cheer on Texas redistricting, which as far as I know didn't really help them a whole lot in terms of in terms of Democrat and Republican seats. However, the one thing I think we really need to remember here is that when you look at the vote, if the Democrats had done this correctly, we would be redistricting right now. the Supreme Court may not uphold it, but if they had done this correctly, we would be having a different discussion right now. And so the way I see it, there's not a whole lot to be thrilled about
Starting point is 00:12:42 except the fact that this was stopped. California... And I don't say that to gloat. California, California, Florida, Missouri, North Carolina, Ohio, Tennessee, Texas, and Utah have all enacted new maps. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:57 Virginia, the Commonwealth will not. I echo what Judas said. He said it better than I could. I am not celebrating that this is being done outside of Virginia. I am celebrating that this has been killed, struck down within Virginia. Changing the rules in the middle of the game is wrong. And if you give an inch,
Starting point is 00:13:20 if you give an inch, people will take a mile, especially politicians. I was just about to add that. Especially politicians. and there's no one in the Commonwealth of Virginia right now that is facing more demoralization, feeling more disenfranchised, feeling more despair, more downtrodden
Starting point is 00:13:42 than Senator Louise Lucas. Senator Louise Lucas this week has had her, I can't believe I'm saying this, Virginia Senator Louise Lucas is in the weed store business, the weed retail business, and she had her point. of sale, Louise Lucas, rated by the Federal Bureau of Investigation. She's an 82-year-old black woman.
Starting point is 00:14:10 She's in the weed business, and the FBI rated her points of sale. And today, Louise Lucas, the face of redistricting and gerrymandering in Virginia because of her choice words and her celebration tend to end. effing one, which she's now monikering or branding or coining that phrase and printing it on t-shirts. I doubt she's going to sell a whole lot more of those, but I hope she made a decent amount of money off the sales before Virginia Supreme Court put a stop to it. In a one week period of time, in a three-day period of time, the FBI has rated Senator
Starting point is 00:14:58 Louise Lucas's office and her businesses, and in a three-day period of time, the Supreme Court of Virginia has struck down what was probably going to be her political and digital legacy. I'm going to open up the comments for you, the viewer, and listener to offer your thoughts, because this is a touchy subject in Charlottesville and Amar County, and it's a subject that captivated much of the Commonwealth. I'm going to read a statement from Philip Reese, the chair of the Almorel County Republican Committee, who sent that statement to us moments ago.
Starting point is 00:15:44 First, Carol Thorpe, the queen of Jack Jewett, her photo on screen. She says it's an absolute great day in Virginia. Conan Owen is watching the program. I don't think the GOP would have acted so quickly if Virginia hadn't pushed the referendum in one. Conan Owen also says, I think the GOP will be more fired up in November
Starting point is 00:16:10 if the referendum hadn't happened. Periola would have a much better chance against McGuire and the 5th. Perryiello is going to get smoked by McGuire in the 5th. Do you think Periello's going to beat McGuire in the 5th? I don't really have a handle on it yet. I'll offer some political science and some political analysis here.
Starting point is 00:16:33 We saw a very even vote with redistricting in Virginia. Very even vote. I think I would have actually won the prop bet. I think you're right. I found the actual percentage, and it was something along the lines of, let's see. After all the votes were counted, it finished over 3%, didn't it?
Starting point is 00:16:52 Yeah, it was 4831 to 5169. So I... So just over like 3.3%. I put the prop bet betting line at 3%. And I said I would take the over and Judah bet me a bottle of McCallon 12. Actually, Judah did not take the bet. After all votes were counted, I would have won that prop bet. But three points in change meets fairly even.
Starting point is 00:17:21 I still don't call three points and change that even. But let's just say for the sake of a talk show, it's fairly even. this redistricting and gerrymandering efforts, I think, is going to fuel or invigorate conservatives, Republicans, libertarians come midterms and come into 2027. And it may even serve as a fire starter for Democrats who voted against it, who are infuriated with the Jay Joneses and the Senator Louise Luez. Lucas's for this backroom wheeling and dealing and this collusion and this abuse of power. I'm curious to see if the Virginia Supreme Court ruling will splinter in any capacity Democrats in the Commonwealth. I'm very curious to see if that will happen. Because there was a lot of Virginia Democrats that had a bad taste in their mouth. Yeah. Disenchanted and felt
Starting point is 00:18:25 disenfranchised. Judah has some naysayers. I do. Jason Noble's photo on screen. I disagree with that, Judah. I don't think that the state necessarily would have been redistricting because part of the problem with that, with what the Dems did was mislead voters. Not saying it's guaranteed things would have been different, but part of the Supreme Court's decision was based on was, there was potentially misleading what Democrats were trying to do. Philip Dow is also... I'm not sure what you're disputing
Starting point is 00:19:01 Phil Dow is also pushing back on what you said. He says Judah and viewers and listeners, it's Judah with an H. What is the correct way then, Judah? The correct way to what? What you said. Your opening stance is what they're responding to.
Starting point is 00:19:19 Have you the correct way to, what, rejoice? the correct way to respond to this? I mean, yeah, I'm not saying that people shouldn't be happy if they, you know, if they voted against it. I'm glad that it was struck down, but I feel like there's too much gloating in our world. And I don't see any gain in pointing our fingers at people that did vote for this. And whether it's laughing, whether it's making jokes, whether it's...
Starting point is 00:19:52 I mean, what it really comes down to is. Judah's a really, really nice person. This is really what it comes down to it, folks. Known this man for like 16 years. He's a really, really nice person. One of his biggest strengths, maybe one of his biggest, biggest weaknesses is the fact that he is just a really, really nice guy. And he is going to take the high road,
Starting point is 00:20:14 and he has an opportunity because part of him, I'm not even sure, part of him does, but part of me certainly does, because I'm not really that nice of a person. I can back that up One of my biggest strengths and also one of my biggest weaknesses is that
Starting point is 00:20:29 it served me very, very well in business served me very, very well in a number of aspects of my life. You ask my wife, she says, I wish you had a little more emotional intelligence, Jerry. And she would say that. And I don't put words in my wife's mouth ever. Because she doesn't like that.
Starting point is 00:20:49 But she would say that. and there's part of me that said, I'm glad this effing happened because redistricting and gerrymandering in the middle of the game is cheating, it's manipulating, it's disingenuous, especially how it was presented to voters
Starting point is 00:21:08 that often are not that sophisticated, that all they do is catch a 30-second ad and see Barack Obama pitching something, and they're like, oh, it's a former president. He must be telling the truth, so I'm going to do whatever he's saying, because I saw his 15-second spot on YouTube as I was doom scrolling. For the folks that actually follow this and actually have some level of nuance and sophistication,
Starting point is 00:21:32 and I try to be in that ballpark because I'm reading a crap load of stuff and trying to pass it on to you guys, tens of thousands of people show. I explain, I say that this was wrong, and I want politicians choosing policy, instead of politicians choosing other politicians. Voters choose politicians. And the voters pick the people that then get to determine the policy.
Starting point is 00:22:00 It's not the politicians that choose the other politicians to collude and maintain power. That's bullshit. No doubt. So there I said it. Judas is not going to say that. I mean, I agree with pretty much all that.
Starting point is 00:22:15 But you haven't said it. How you led your opening monologue was it's not a day to celebrate in any capacity. Almost your exact words. But those things that you said don't necessarily constitute rejoicing, partying.
Starting point is 00:22:32 Depends on how you present them. Yeah, I mean, that's kind of the same with everything, I guess. But, yeah, I agree with everything you said. I don't think it's right for any of this. The thing is, like Tennessee, Texas, I don't know the politics there. I don't know the... I'm sure you have.
Starting point is 00:22:50 have a pretty good idea what the politics are. I don't know the extenuating circumstances. In some cases, not all redistricting is the same animal. Ginny Who, thank you for the retweet. Here's your thoughts, Ginny Who on this. Virginia had literally voted what in 2020 to make this a bipartisan effort. And so like you said, in the middle of the decade, outside of its proper time, Just to, you know, put one over on the other side of the aisle is dirty. Deep Throat's got comments. Let's hear him.
Starting point is 00:23:33 Always welcome. Deep Throat provides a theme song potentially for Judah called I Don't Like Mondays. Share's a YouTube link. He also acknowledges what I offered in my opening monologue. Can you imagine how Louise Lucas feels today? she was trolling so hard that she got Tennessee to redistrict when they otherwise probably would not have redistricted. And that Virginia redistricting fails,
Starting point is 00:24:05 oh, and at the very same time, she gets raided by the FBI. Glorious day. Speaking of Tennessee, we have a viewer who's commenting from Tennessee, Jeremy Wilson, who's watching the program, who lives in Cookville, Tennessee. Both parties are the very definition of hypocrisy
Starting point is 00:24:27 in their own ways. I'm going to respond to Jeremy Wilson's comment on one of the 27 social media platforms this show is airing upon by saying, Jeremy Wilson, I agree with you. I personally feel politically homeless. Party homeless. I feel party homeless at the time. At the local level, I feel party homeless at the state level.
Starting point is 00:24:55 I feel party homeless at the macro level. I'm sick and tired of this war in Iran. I'm sick and tired of broken promises from Donald Trump. I'm sick and tired of being told that I'm going to focus on domestic issues, affordability, border patrol, and strengthening the economy and creating affordability for Americans. And then a year and change into his second term, he's in a brouhaha. on the other side of the world with Iran, who's been our enemy for 50 years, and oil and gas continue to be expensive as all get out, $4.37 at the Bel Air and Ivy Road.
Starting point is 00:25:33 The only positive that comes from this is Conan Owen is going to give me a bottle of McAllen 12 because he's losing this prop bet in approximately 17 days. And I'm going to enjoy that prop. I'm going to enjoy that McAllen 12 on my back deck smoking and Alec Bradley Cigar. Only positive that comes from this. Woody Fincham was on real talk with Keith Smith this morning. He's an appraiser.
Starting point is 00:26:01 Fincham and Associates. The number one appraiser in Central Virginia is Woody Finchum of Fincham and Associates. He's smart as duck. Quack, quack, quack. He said, without question, you are seeing in the outer counties soften from with buyer interest and with price point. I want you to go on. realtor, the realtor app, or I want you to go to the Charlottesville Area Association of
Starting point is 00:26:26 Realtors. In fact, I'll do it right now. Car.com. I'm going to car.com, C-A-A-R-com. Gosh, for the public. Can you just give me the search engine to search? Make these things so complicated. I'm going to car, not for all this stuff. All right, find a property. Finding the property is actually below the fold. Make that make that make sense. You know what? It's the commercial. It's the commercial.
Starting point is 00:27:00 It's the commercial one. Where's to find a residential? Seriously, I'm on a car. Where can I find? Where's the MLS? It used to be at mycar.com. MyCard. M.Y.C.A.
Starting point is 00:27:15 Never been a fan. Where is the search engine for the property listings? All right. You want me to go to Zillow? Let's see. Can you find it? You know what? I'm not using it.
Starting point is 00:27:30 If it's that hard to find, find me the search engine to find the MLS. You click find a property, it's the commercial properties. You know what? I'm just going to go out of car. I'm not using that search engine. I can't find it. It's too clunky and difficult to use. I don't need any of this continuing education or this other stuff.
Starting point is 00:27:49 Did you find it? we're pretty smart people we can't even find it can you find it affiliate and they got a login they got for the public but it doesn't take you anywhere I'm going to another search engine can I just give the tip to car find a property what is it find a property that's commercial isn't it let me give a tip to car the Charlottesville area association
Starting point is 00:28:09 realtors can you put the search engine smack dab in the middle above the fold where it's easy to find you want a house not commercial yeah can you find it I don't know I just went to... I mean, you're looking at two pretty smart guys who literally can't find out how to... Did you find a realtor? Did you find it?
Starting point is 00:28:28 No. That's what I'm saying. What? I don't think they have it anymore. They don't, you guys don't have the search engine for the MLS. Charlottesville. I mean, maybe the, maybe you can only use it if you're a member. That doesn't make sense.
Starting point is 00:28:45 Charlottesville area. MLS. Look how hard I'm having to find to find the MLS. Do you wonder why that Zillow is eat your lunch? All right, maybe I found it here. Residential MLS changes? I still can't find it. No.
Starting point is 00:29:04 I just want to search the listings in Lake Monticello, damn it. 4,300 homes in Lake Monticello. Your litmus test in a lot of ways for central Virginia because of the amount of rooftops within the gated community in Flavana County. On top of that, you've got the price point. All right, I'm going to Zillow.
Starting point is 00:29:27 I'm on Zillow. Oh, Zillow's got a search bar right in the above the fold. Easy to find. Easy to use. 57 listings. I mean, was it not that search symbol at the top of the page?
Starting point is 00:29:39 All right. I'll go back. I'll give them a second chance for saying. What's the... I'll go back. What's the property? No, I want to search by neighborhood, Lake Monticello.
Starting point is 00:29:49 I'm going back. I got it on Zillow easy. Did you find it? Let's see. I don't know. I'm putting Lake Monticello and it says it seems we can't find what you're looking for. Okay, so two, I would like to think relatively smart guys literally cannot find the MLS through the Charlestville Area Association of Relater's website. But on Zill.com, I got it in one second.
Starting point is 00:30:19 There's 57. All right, let's not stick in the weeds and continue to do this. Let's keep doing the show. A little bit of frustration right there, and I see three dozen realtors, including some on the board watching the program right now. 57 units for sale within Lake Monticello. 57.
Starting point is 00:30:38 There's 4,300 homes in Lake Monticello. I could not tell you the last time I've seen over 1% of the overall housing stock in Lake Monticello be available for sale, for purchase. 43 is the 1% barometer, 4,300, 43 is 1%. With 57, you're talking 1.3% of the neighborhood is now active and for sale. I couldn't tell you the last time I've seen Lake Monticello have more than a point of its housing stock, percentage point available for purchase or for sale. The last time that was the case was before COVID.
Starting point is 00:31:29 Was before COVID. If someone does not make a correlation, an honest correlation with escalated gasoline and four-handle 87 gas, $4 plus on 87, and softening or flatlining or price reductions, price cuts, weakening buyer demand with Outer County for sale real estate,
Starting point is 00:31:56 then you're not reading the T leaves correctly. You're just not. And this is a topic that someone sent me via Facebook message that asked for anonymity, a very important person, and I'm not going to utilize their name. I won't utilize their name. This individual who sent me this message, an elected official, said,
Starting point is 00:32:20 you know what all these affordable housing advocates all these housing activists or advocates are are pimping or pushing affordable housing as it pertains to the
Starting point is 00:32:37 frontline worker the barista the waiter and the server right okay and this individual who's asking for anonymity says, let me understand something. The housing advocates are pushing housing stock for the baristas
Starting point is 00:32:58 and the waiters and the retail, the retailers, the folks that work the retail stores, that work in the wedding and events industry and hospitality, and they utilize this argument, this, you know, smoke and mirror game of, oh, it's unfair for them to drive across Afton Mountain to work in Charlottesville at a barista or at a waiting tables or at a music gig as a bouncer or as a ticket puncher or in the wedding and event industry. It's unfair for them to do that. And this individual who's a heavy hitter said, let me understand something. We're going to have to change our housing and our zoning.
Starting point is 00:33:41 We're going to have to ensure that developments have X percentage tied to area median income, meaning the remaining units that are a part of any development have to be priced much higher because if you're saving 15, 10, 15% on an affordability scale, it's still got to pencil out the financing to build the project. So that means the other units are going to be more expensive. We have to jump through all these hoops and hurdles because why?
Starting point is 00:34:09 Waynesboro and Augusta County and Rockingham County can't build music venues and coffee shops. and places to buy widgets on shelves fast enough, why aren't there jobs for the frontline worker on the other side of Afton Mountain? Why is the frontline worker having to drive on Interstate 64 from Wainsborough and Augusta County to Charlottesville to work a $10 or $12 an hour job
Starting point is 00:34:37 or a server job until 2 in the morning as the restaurant closes down? Why don't those jobs exist over there in Wainsborough and Augusta on the other side of Afton Mountain? I'm sure they do. Not the number to satisfy the head count, because they're obviously commuting here. He makes the point, why do we have to suffer? I'll read it verbatim.
Starting point is 00:35:02 Okay. I'm protecting this person's anonymity. I found this compelling. Back in the 1980s, urban areas were dealing with white flight, suburban sprawl and the decline of inner cities. I remember as a kid when downtown Charlestville was a ghost town. Belmont was super sketchy and crime-ridden. In response, nationwide communities implemented smart growth policies that encourage redevelopment in urban centers.
Starting point is 00:35:37 Without these successful strategies, city schools and businesses would have continued to decline in many places, including in Charlottesville. Now it's in vogue to rail against those smart growth policies. that arguably resulted in a more equitable society. Under the guise of affordable housing, many now want to reverse those smart growth policies because growth has leapfrog to neighboring localities and people don't like their long commutes.
Starting point is 00:36:07 I've heard a recent complaint about a barista who has to drive over Afton Mountain to work at a coffee shop in Crozet. So here's my question for you, Jerry. Jerry. Why is the relative lack of planning and economic development and neighboring counties necessarily our problem here in Charlottesville and Almor County? Can Waynesboro or Fluvana seriously not build a coffee shop for those folks to work at? It really feels like Charlottesville and Almar are being punished for our own success in smart planning. Yes, it is a lovely place to
Starting point is 00:36:45 live and work because it was planned that way. Also, if you don't ruin your own localities, you won't have to flee and come here when you retire. The solution is not to make us like Fairfax or undo the very policies that have made us economically successful and a good place to live and work, but maybe for other localities to take note and practice a little better planning themselves and invest more in their own economic development. Do you really want a talented workforce leaving your locality every day to work someplace else, I found that compelling. And it's a perfect segue into the Sunshine Mathan lower third to put on screen. I emphasize this on yesterday's show, and I saw a comment from handsome Hank Martin.
Starting point is 00:37:33 Put Handsome Hank Martin's photo on screen about Sunshine Mathan. He said, I watch your show, Jerry. I love your show, Jerry. you guys are the news for Charlottesville, Jerry, and everyone knows it. And he said, in regards to the point you made yesterday about Sunshine Mathan being the godfather of housing affordability, and he shared a link with Premier Circle and what's happening in Almara County. And Judah's got some commentary he can offer here at a matter of moments in Almaro County. I'm going to say this about Sunshine Mathan, the executive director of Piedmont Housing Alliance.
Starting point is 00:38:09 and Judah, I think we need to get a photo of Sunshine Mathan. He's come on the I Love Seville Network multiple times. In fact, if I Google Sunshine Mathan and click images, you will see the photo of him on the I Love Seville Network shaking my hands as one of the first photos tied to his digital brand. Do you see the one with him shaking my hand? I'm not looking where you are, but I'm probably fine. Sunshine Mathan, Google Image.
Starting point is 00:38:40 We have the right. to publish that photo because you took it with our camera. Well, that's what I'm saying. It's probably here in my library. I'm not going to go looking online for it. Okay, thank you. You're smarter than I am. This executive director of Piedmont Housing Alliance
Starting point is 00:38:53 behind the scenes is one of the 50 or 100 people in Central Virginia that are driving the pace and tempo of the community. Some of the folks drive the pace and tempo and influence the community through obscene wealth. I've been told from someone in the know that there is 40 billionaires, 40 with a B, 40 billionaires with a B, that have a home in Charlesville or Almorea County, that either as a primary home or as a secondary or third residence,
Starting point is 00:39:28 calls Charlottesville, Almaro County their home, 40 of them. And a percentage of them, not saying all of them, but a percentage of them are driving the pace and tempo of Charlottesville and Almore County. I've said it once, I've said it twice, I've said it three, three times, I'll say it again. 50 to 100 people are dictating the economy in Charlottesville. And the reason I know this is not because I am one, but because my firm services these 50 to 100 people. That's what my firm is doing, is servicing these individuals.
Starting point is 00:40:00 So I'm getting to know these folks. The 50 to 100 are not necessarily all rich net worth, 100 millionaires, billionaires, 10 millionaires. Some of them are rich and clout politically and socially. One of them who is rich and clout politically and socially
Starting point is 00:40:25 is Sunshine Mathan. On screen. He's on screen? Look at the screen. Look at the screen. Which photo did you use? Handshake, baby. Okay. Sunshine loves this photo of he and I shaking hands.
Starting point is 00:40:41 He's got this photo framed and on his nightstand and his bedroom right now. Especially after this week of commentary from yours truly. Do we have that framed on the Wall of Fame? We need to frame this handshake photo
Starting point is 00:40:57 of Sunshine and I for it to live in immortality on the I Love's Evil Network Wall of Fame. Can we make a note of doing that please? This individual right here is rich, yeah, we should do it. He's rich in politics.
Starting point is 00:41:13 When you do it, can you crop it a little bit more on the left? So it's just a tighter shot. I can do you one better. I can uncrop the whole thing. No, don't do that now. Don't do that now. This man is driving the pace and tempo of development and affordability. And I hate what I'm absolutely about to say.
Starting point is 00:41:39 I cringe with what I'm about to say right now, okay? Another individual, you did crop it and move right there. individual that is part of that 50 to 100 people driving the pace and tempo in Charlesville and Amaral County, I hate what I'm about to say is Matthew Gillickon of livable Civo. I hate it that I just said it, but it's a fact. I've got to be honest with myself. And he's not that forward thinking. He thinks he is, but he's not.
Starting point is 00:42:14 The reality is we have the mark in Fifeville. because of Matthew Gilliken he thought with his politicking and his lobbying and his strategy with the lobbying group the urban lobbying group Livable Seaville that is pushing additional supply and bike lanes and pedestrian
Starting point is 00:42:36 and benches on the downtown mall yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada affordable housing he thought he could play the game and he thought he was a grand master like a Bobby Fisher in the park in Manhattan beaten the brakes off of some bubs and a time clock game. He thought he was a grand master.
Starting point is 00:42:58 The reality is, is he's nothing more than a checkers player. Because one of the first projects of significance is the mark on 7th in Delavan. We're going to have an analysis on I Love Seville for $8 a month subscribers for, insiders on how Charlottesville's new zoning code cleared a path for the mark in Fifeville.
Starting point is 00:43:26 And the headline we're going to use is livable Seville pushed a new zoning ordinance. Now the new zoning ordinance has replaced Fifell's history for, it has replaced Fifell's history with luxury UVA student apartments. Luxury high rises have looted the heritage of historically black Fifeville neighborhood. Yeah. And I'm going to be very straightforward with you. This new zoning ordinance, which has cleared the path for the mark, a seven-story apartment complex in the Fifeville neighborhood, is the result of a 2023 development code which fundamentally changed how large-scale projects are approved. By shifting from a political approval process to a technical one, the new code removed several traditional roadblocks that would have historically,
Starting point is 00:44:18 allowed the community or city council to block the project. The new code rezoned the Fifeville parcels as residential mixed use. Was that RX5? RX5 allows seven-story buildings by right as long as the developer meets the technical requirements of the code. The city is legally obligated to approve the site plan without a public hearing or a council vote on the building's higher density. And one of the most controversial aspects of the path,
Starting point is 00:44:50 to approval is the project's designation of student housing. Affordability requirement. Standard developments under the new code must include 10% on-site affordable units or pay a high in lieu of fee. But the loophole, the loophole, the loophole, the code provides a discount for student housing located within a half a mile radius of the University of Virginia's main campus. And guess what, Judah? Guess what? I'm going to go ahead and guess the Fifeville lot where the mark is going to be gently and well-placed is within a half mile of the University of Virginia. And hot damn, Matthew Gilligan, your lobbying and political efforts have now backfired on you. And as your digital legacy, it should say the mark that is going to eviscerate and cannibalize historically black and African-American.
Starting point is 00:45:50 Fifeville and replace it with Prada and Gucci and Louis Vuitton and Jimmy Chu and Patagonia and Nike and white, rich UVA, out-of-state students carrying their mommy and daddy's black American Express cards while driving down their hand-me-downs, their hand-me-down G-Waggons, and their hand-me-down G-LEs, and their hand-me-down X-7s. are going to destroy a neighborhood that you live absolutely adjacent to. And those 50 to 100 people that are behind the scenes dictating the pace and tempo of Charlottesville, it's the less than 1%.
Starting point is 00:46:38 Some of them are rich in money. Some of them are rich in real estate. Some of them are generational rich that just inherited it. Trust funds. Some of them are rich in capital, social, some of them are rich in capital politics. And I've now given you an example of one rich and social capital, Matthew Gilligan, one rich in political capital, Sunshine Mathan. I'll give you one of an example of someone who's rich in money. How about what comes immediately to mind as an
Starting point is 00:47:18 individual here? How about what Paul Manning is doing? And it's son-in-law Chris Henry with Stony Point. How about one that's rich in second-generation money with Woodard properties in Anthony, a company his dad built, Keith. How about one that is
Starting point is 00:47:41 rich in wealth, the top donor in University of Virginia history period, bar none. Jeffrey Woodruff had $180 million across the board. Data Science School. And that is your master class on what is driving Charlottesville in Almore County.
Starting point is 00:48:01 economy. You think, ladies and gentlemen, you think, ladies and gentlemen, it is, oh, it's the tourism, always the breweries, it's the breweries, it's so craft IPAs. You think, ladies and gentlemen, it's the restaurant scene. It's not, it's 50 to 100 people. It's taking me, I've been here 26 effing years. Owned this firm for 18 years on the 28th of May. those 18 years, I didn't start really getting this stuff dialed in to maybe the last six before working real hard, but not working smart. Now working real smart and driving a lot of revenue. You see it. Firm sees it. Real estate own, what? Five, six million, 24, 25 doors, more in counting. No institutional money, no outside investors, all seller finance deals, five-year terms,
Starting point is 00:49:20 strategically investing every two to three years to maintain debt to equity ratios, took me 12 years to figure it out of the 18. Now it's dialed in. And this is the type of stuff that if you're subscribing to the I Love Seville Paywall and Substack at $8, a month that you're getting. And this story that I'm about to publish for insiders, I Loveceville.com, I Loveceville.com, I Loveceville.com.
Starting point is 00:49:53 The headline. What's the headline of the story? The most recent one. Yeah. The one that's not published. Let's see. Hold on. It is luxury.
Starting point is 00:50:11 No. The one that's not published. Livable Seville. Yeah. Yeah, that's the one I'm talking about. Let's see, Livable Seville pushed a new zoning ordinance. Now the NCO has replaced Fifeville's history for luxury UVA student apartments. Change that preposition, the start of the preposition and the preposition itself, for and make it with, please.
Starting point is 00:50:40 The prepositional phrase should begin with with and not for. livable seville in quotes livable seville pushed a new zoning ordinance semicolon now the nzio has replaced fightfield's history with luxury uva student apartments and the sub deck or the cut line should read luxury high rises comma looted heritage colon how charltsville's zoning reform destroyed a black neighborhood the cut line or subhead luxury high rises looted heritage how Charlottesville's zoning reform destroyed a black neighborhood. And that, ladies and gentlemen, including the content we published this morning, is literally content and coverage that not a damn other media outlet in Central Virginia can give you besides the man you're listening to or hearing right now. It's taken me 26 years of institutional memory and knowledge to get to this point. And coming out of the University of Virginia, a background is a print reporter,
Starting point is 00:51:44 a multiple award-winning Virginia Press Award-winning reporter who also was hosting syndicated radio talk shows for six days a week on 13 ESPN affiliates in four states while doing two television shows on NBC29 that bared his name. Is that bragging? Yes, it is. Absolutely it is. And on the 28th of May, this company will be 18 years old. And if you had told me, if you had told me
Starting point is 00:52:13 when I was 26 years old, I'm 44, my, 44 now, if you had told me when I was 26 years old, that if you give up an $85,000 a year job where you're writing for the daily progress, doing 13, doing a six-day-a-week radio talk show on 13 ESPN affiliates, while doing two TV shows on the weekend and literally working 90 hours a week, waking up four of the days of the week at 4 a.m. to get to work. Think about it. You're making $85,000 a year, but you're working 90 hours a week. All you're doing is working two jobs at $40,000. You're working two jobs at $40,000, and then you're still working another 10 hours at a third job.
Starting point is 00:53:12 if I'm working 90 hours a week for 80K, call it 80K just for the sake of math, I'm working a $40,000 job, another $40,000 job, and then have a part-time 10-hour job. So I'm not even making $40K with the first 40-hour jobs because there were still an additional 10 hours.
Starting point is 00:53:37 You see what I'm saying? Vaguely, I'm not sure what you're talking about. if you had told that person when he was 26 years old that had no life was sacrificing everything was watching as his friends were traveling the world going to warm places of the winter and cold places in the summer driving luxury automobiles BMWs and Mercedes while you were waking up at 4 or 5 a.m. 4 or 5 days a week if you had told them right now 18 years later that you're you're on a $6 million real estate portfolio. You got two wonderful kids, a wife,
Starting point is 00:54:15 four acres and ivy with a pool, and get to do this talk show, I would never have believed you. I would never have believed you. And I remember, because I'm waxing nostalgic now, when I told my parents and my girlfriend at the time, she had been my girlfriend for a long period of time, that I was going to quit this work. I barely saw her.
Starting point is 00:54:35 Maybe it was a sign because she was there for the intervention. Don't quit your job with my parents. don't do this. I'm barely seeing you. You don't want me to quit your job? You don't want to see me? If they saw it now, they wouldn't believe it. But that's what they said on May 28th, 18 years ago, don't you do this? Surprise me at the Villas at Southern Ridge as I walk in, try and do an intervention before I quit.
Starting point is 00:55:04 And why this program works, why this program works, viewers and listeners, is because we do not bullshit you. We do not bullshit you. We sit here and shoot it straight. And that's why it works. You got a guy in Sunshine Mathan, the executive director of Piedmont Housing Alliance, that behind the scenes is driving development.
Starting point is 00:55:31 Southwood, 501 Cherry Avenue, Carlton Mobile Home Park. I should have a list. What development projects has Piedmont Housing Alliance done in Charlottesville. Kindlewood, former Friendship Court, former Garrett Square. How did you not know that, Jerry, you idiot? Kindlewood, a massive four-phase zero to place, displacement, redevelopment of 150 old Section 8 units near downtown.
Starting point is 00:56:12 Garrett Square and Friendship Court was the place you definitely did not go. You definitely did not go there. Premier Circle. You want to give them a little insight into Premier Circle? That's something you wanted to talk about today. I mean, I'm getting into learning more about it, but it seems like exactly what Charlottesville is attempting to do with 2000, 2000 holiday, holiday square. Holiday Drive. Holiday Drive, except they're actually doing it. Premier Circle is what the city should have done. U.S. Route 29. on a bus line,
Starting point is 00:56:53 you take an old red carpet in, and you turn it into affordable housing. City of Charlottesville instead says, let's buy a 27,000 square foot office building that's been sitting vacant forever and on the for sale market that every Tom, Dick, and Harry, of any sophistication and nuance in the real estate world, kick the tires on and passed on purchasing.
Starting point is 00:57:15 Every Tom Dick and Harry knew 27,000 square feet brick Georgian next to the bypass. 2000 holiday drive, we can do it. We're the city. Had a chance to buy the cavalier crossing. Instead, let the wolf into Almaro County. Bonaventure, a real estate investment
Starting point is 00:57:36 trust from Northern Virginia, who took $500 a month bedrooms and turned them into $1,000 a month bedrooms. City, let the wolf into the hen house. Let's listen to Matthew Gilliken of livable seavill. Let's relax this zoning. And I'm sure that's going to create housing affordability because the speech therapist from UVA hospital knows about real estate nuance.
Starting point is 00:58:03 Now we got how many units in Fifell? How many do we got coming? J-Dubs. How many coming to the mark? How many coming to the mark, Judith? Talk to me, Papa Bear. Talk to me. Fifteen thousand.
Starting point is 00:58:18 I don't know. You should know that. Seven-story luxury apartment building, 180 units, 770 beds, 270 beds, 2,000. thousand per bed, 1,540, 1,540,000 monthly rent roll, 18,480,000 yearly rent wall at a 4% escalator per bedroom targeted to mommy and daddies with black amexes that are passing down their GLEs and their X-7s and their Teslas to their out-of-state students who wear nothing but Jimmy Chu and Versacee and Patagonia and are going to stop and stampede through a historically black neighborhood that was previously known for intimacy and community, previously known for knowing everyone's name,
Starting point is 00:59:10 previously rich in history, and will become bleak, bleak, bleak, and fortune 50 brandware, and bleak, bleak, and luxury vehicles. that are $60, $70, $80,000 to start. Facts on, facts on facts. 501 Cherry Avenue, Piedmont Housing Alliance. Southwood Village, Piedmont Housing Alliance. UVA Piedmont Housing Alliance. Park Street, a development of over 100 affordable housing units
Starting point is 00:59:49 at the former Maca site, Piedmont Housing Alliance. Do you see behind the scenes what they are doing? Just a quick Google search. 600 affordable housing units in the Charlestville area alone. To put that in perspective, Stanley Martin, a partner of this program, put their messaging on screen, an honest and communicative developer, Stanley Martin.
Starting point is 01:00:14 This is my cue for you to put it on screen. They meet building checkpoints. They communicate with their clients. Stanley Martin has built 600 homes in the last 24 months. Piedmont Housing Alliance has 600 that they've developed and manage right now. Subsidy. And the 501 Cherry Avenue Project versus the mark is a stark contrast between subsidies and students. Students and subsidies.
Starting point is 01:01:03 It's 140. We need to go make some money. What have we not covered? I think we've covered most of it. You wanted to talk about a jazz fest. I mean, it's just a... I think it's a positive story. Let's cover it. The first jazz festival
Starting point is 01:01:23 in Charlottesville is coming in almost exactly a month. I believe it's June 6th. I'm hoping that'll be a lot of fun. I used to love jazz in the park in Savannah, Georgia.
Starting point is 01:01:42 And, I mean, you know. I love Jazz Fest. Yeah. Anything to bring the people together. Recreate a New Orleans Jazz Fest in downtown Charlestville. Still not economic development from City Hall. Right.
Starting point is 01:01:55 Give me something that I can credit Chris Engel for. He's got a dartboard in his basement with my picture on the bullseye. He's not one of the 50 to 100 people. He's not one of the 50 to 100. It has billions of dollars. That has anything of clout. politically, socially, or financially. He's not one of the 50 to 100.
Starting point is 01:02:26 That's good to know. Give me something economic development that man has done since the onset of COVID. Seriously. Can you give me one? Exactly. And Deep Throat reminds us, and I should have highlighted this, that 50 to 100 people without question, Sunshine Mathan is one of those 50 to 100. Without question.
Starting point is 01:02:51 but he reminds us they do development with no budgetary check because they know if they're overruns all they have to do is go before city council and get more of your money and my money and the viewers and listeners money taxpayer money.
Starting point is 01:03:07 Sad but true. All they have to do is ask council had in hand in the public portion comment we went over and we need to get housing for the 60% AMI or the 30% AMI. We need to another $700,000 or we need to convert that that loan you gave us that loan you gave us to
Starting point is 01:03:31 develop the grocery store at 501 Cherry Avenue and now we want a $3,850,000 handout instead and why don't we say right now it's going to be a 42-year term at an interest rate of 3% wink wink wink, wink Michael Payne and magic money fly because when it's all sent and done magic money and move out of your house paying, you both know that you're not going to make us pay this back and we're just going to write it off. And now we're going to go from having to develop a grocery store
Starting point is 01:04:12 to develop an entire small area plan and build 70 to 80 units, a grocery store that's never going to work in a home for the music resource center. Let's see how that price per square from construction checks in. Who wants to bet that it's going to be 400 plus a square? Who's going to bet it's going to start knocking on the door of $500 when the site work and everything is done?
Starting point is 01:04:40 Who cares? It's just the taxpayers' money. You know that's right. It's Friday. Fired up on a Friday. Deep throat making the program better before you celebrate Premier Circle construction, the cost alone was $25 million,
Starting point is 01:05:04 and it yielded 140 units, not as bad as Holiday Drive, but still $180,000 per unit, just construction cross. There was already an effing hotel there. Yeah, that is pretty bad. Let's put it in perspective, though, holiday drive. Call it $20 million, $20 million, divided by 80 Coleman sleeping bags
Starting point is 01:05:28 and 80 Yeti 32-ounce tumblers like the one I have in our hand. For $20 million, you get 80 Coleman sleeping bags and 80 Yeti tumblers. $250,000 for that Coleman sleeping bag and that
Starting point is 01:05:43 32-ounce Yeti tumbler at 2000 Holiday Drive. And it takes the property off to tax rolls. Make it make sense. All right. If you're not subscribing to the I Love Sevo substack, at $8 a month, the price of a cup of coffee,
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Starting point is 01:06:20 No other media outlets giving you 50 pieces of fresh content a month on UVA sports, but Virginia Sports Hall of Famer, Jerry Rackleff, my first boss, who's got the institutional memory of 50 years on the Virginia beat, Virginia Sports Hall of Fame, or he is, there's no wonder that thousands of people are subscribing. Judah Wickhauer, Judah Wickhauer, Judah Wickhauer, on his second most favorite day of the week. A Friday, not a payday Friday, but a Friday nevertheless. Jerry Miller on his least favorite day of the week. Second least favorite day of the week.
Starting point is 01:06:59 One of the least favorite day of the week is a payday Friday. Well, oh, yeah. Would you're worth every penny? Paid very well. My favorite day of the week is... I just wish you would stop paying me all in pennies. My favorite day of the week, you're right. 85% of the market would say otherwise.
Starting point is 01:07:19 My favorite day of the week is what? Any day that you wake up early and get to work, I don't know. That's true. I'm laughing love what I do love what I do make your passion your profession you never work a day in your life love what I do love to wake up
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