The I Love CVille Show With Jerry Miller! - Wahoos Lose ACC Title; Will Play Mizzou In Gator Bowl; New AlbCo High School Cost 50% Less In 2017

Episode Date: December 8, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Good Monday afternoon, guys. I'm Jerry Miller, and thank you kindly for joining us on the I Love Seville Show. It's great to connect with you guys through the I Love Seville Network, and what is a slippery and sloshy? Is sloshy a word? Slippery and sloshy afternoon in downtown Charlottesville. The precipitation continues to come down, but for those that are looking for a very layman and very simple man's meteorology.
Starting point is 00:00:30 analysis. The roads are fine. You can drive. Get out of your house and don't be scared. Go live your life. We got here this morning when it was much colder and the roads are fine. It has since warmed up and the roads are even better. Salute and props to Charlottesville. Charlottesville City takes care of its own roads, owns its own roads and salute and props to VDOT who has treated the roads around Charlottesville City, Elmorrow County, my stopping grounds, and just made it an easy morning commute with just much less traffic.
Starting point is 00:01:06 A lot we're going to cover on the broadcast. Take a look at the screen for today's headlines. Ladies and gentlemen, Virginia football suffered a very bitter loss on Saturday night on national TV. I stayed up late. I found myself, perhaps like you, in an emotional roller coaster ride
Starting point is 00:01:30 this football game embodied the highs and lows of emotions that captivate us as average Joe's and average genifers and the highs were a 96-yard drive
Starting point is 00:01:49 with like 90 seconds left in regulation to tie a game and send the contest into over time. And this high was so high. My phone was blinging with text messages. My brother in California was watching. One of my best friends in Hilton Head was watching. We were texting back and forth. We were chugging beers on FaceTime together. And I was here in Charlesville. I didn't make the trip to Charlotte like many of you did. And then the extreme lows of fandom, a gadget play in
Starting point is 00:02:20 overtime, a head-scratching gadget playing in overtime, where Taylor laterals the ball back to Chandler Morris, who throws it into double coverage, and like that, the ACC title is Dukes, and UVA finds itself on the back end of a loss where many Wahoos are just licking their wounds, and many JMU football fans are hoot and hollering because the Dukes are in the college football playoff and props to JMU. By no means, do I have any ill? will or bitterness to JMU football fans. You guys got to hell the football team. You deserve to be in
Starting point is 00:02:56 the college football playoff after Duke, after the University of Virginia squandered a maybe once in a lifetime opportunity what for Wahoo Nation in its football program in the ACC championship. There's many of us now that are questioning the play calling, questioning, going
Starting point is 00:03:12 for a 45, 47-yard field goal in the first half, questioning not taking a field goal on fourth down in the second half. questioning the gadget play and asking why the Wahoos didn't play with the same chutzpah or emotion energy we've seen from much of the season. People are calling for Des Kitchens' head, the offense coordinator yet again, and they're saying the ACC coach of the year, Tony Elliott, was outcoached by Duke Coach Manny Diaz.
Starting point is 00:03:42 I'm going to pump the brakes on all of it. I'm angry. I am disappointed. It was a bitter loss. but I think life as I've matured, and it's a process, my wife would say I still have a long way to go. But as I've matured, I realize that perspective is an extremely valuable tool, and it's a must for happiness and life. If I told you that Virginia was going to get to 10 wins for only the second time in program history and had a shot in an ACC championship.
Starting point is 00:04:18 And I mentioned this to you in August or in the middle of the summer, the dog days of Virginia summer. Everyone in their mother would have jumped on this opportunity and said, hell yeah, let's do it. Wah-hoo-wah, baby. And if I had said Virginia is going to play in a bowl game in sunny South Florida on the 27th of December against Missouri, a southeastern conference football team that's 8 and 4
Starting point is 00:04:41 and have a chance to finish in the top 20 nationally, everyone in their mother would have said, let's go, let's go, let's go. So perspective is valuable. What do they say? Comparison is the thief of joy. Comparison is the thief of joy. And comparing and contrasting Virginia football
Starting point is 00:05:03 to SEC teams and Big Ten, Big 12 teams, comparison is the thief of joy. We're closing the gap. Is the gap closed? No, but we're closing the gap. And this new landscape of infusing $30 million to buy a football roster where 40% of the roster is brand new and has never worn an orange and blue uniform before, whether we want to admit this or not, this is a really good scenario for Virginia,
Starting point is 00:05:31 the University of Virginia. Because it's alumni base, and we're about to put this in perspective, is extremely wealthy. In fact, a headline we'll talk about later in the show, the Welding Cooper Center for Public Service highlights that, University of Virginia graduates earn 53% more money than the national average after 10 years in the workforce. I'll give that to you again. Employees with UVA degrees earn 53% more than the average national wage and 41% more than the state average wage. Our alumni base is wealthy. If we can buy talent like a 22-year-old bear that's playing basketball for Ryan,
Starting point is 00:06:15 Odom and DeRitter. That guy is a man playing against college students. He's a 22-year-old freshman that played professional basketball in Belgium. And on many draft boards was a second round draft pick, but has instead chosen to come to UVA where he's earning more than a million dollars and he's dominating play through the first 10 or 11 games of the season. The first eight or nine games of the season, De Ritter is a grizzly bear. Chandler Morris, they're petitioning the NCAA right now for Chandler Morris to come back for a sixth year at the University of Virginia.
Starting point is 00:06:51 If he does win this petition, Chandler Morris will turn 26. He's 24 now. He's about to be 25 years old. He's a few days younger than Jada Daniels. His 25th birthday is right around the corner. He could conceivably be 26 if
Starting point is 00:07:06 UVA wins this petition. This by-player's scenario is good for Virginia athletics, whether we like to admit this or not. More on this topic on the Jerry and Jerry show tomorrow at 10.15 a.m. I want a studio camera if we can studio camera to show the viewers and listeners what we're working with here. And then we will give some props on the show to friends of the program, Charlottesville Sanitary Supply, who've been in business for 61 years, almost 62. Charlestful Sanitary Supply, John
Starting point is 00:07:40 Vermillion, and Andrew Vermillion are just A-plus people. I mean like the salt. of the earth kind of people. They probably sell salt at Charlottesville Sanitary Supply. You know, cleaning salt or salt for the sidewalks comes snow time. Charlestful Sanitary Supplies on the cusp of launching a new division, which we're helping them do, and we cannot wait to make that announcement once the new division is approved and finalized. Five generations of Vermilions in Almoreal County, three generations running the family business, Charlestful Sanitary Supply, online at Charlesville Sanitary Supply.com and located on East High Street. Wahu fans, I understand the bitterness you are feeling right now. I feel
Starting point is 00:08:21 the same. And I also wonder if a chance at an ACC championship is a once-at-a-lifetime opportunity. But I'm going to take the glasses half full of, the glasses half-full perspective and remind all of you that comparison is the thief of joy. Let's not compare ourselves to the teams in the college football playoff, let's compare ourselves to Virginia football for the last three years, because it's been a special run. Juda Wickhauer, I want to relay a story to you as you put us on a two shot. First, I'd like to say, good afternoon to you, sir. I'd like to say and highlight this. I try to highlight this a lot. I think you've been absolutely dominant at work lately. You've been crushing it at work lately. I sincerely mean this, come this holiday season, as we're talking perspective, maybe that's
Starting point is 00:09:18 the word of today's show, the theme of the show perspective. My perspective with you 16 years going on 17 at this firm is thank you, perhaps one of gratitude, which I should emphasize more, and I want to share a moment in time from my family with you and the viewers and listeners. yesterday was put up the ornaments at the Miller House. We got our Christmas tree on Black Friday from Ivy Greenery, Greenhouse, right over there. Is it Broomeley and Ivy Road? I shouldn't know what it's called.
Starting point is 00:09:58 Goodness gracious. I'm getting old. I'm having, like, can you have senior moments in your... Is that where you see the Quonset huts off to the right driving in your place? Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think that's... I believe that's right. Okay, Ivy, it's not Christmas tree farm.
Starting point is 00:10:12 Goodness gracious, senior moment for Jerry Miller here. I even did a Facebook post about this. It is, anyway, I don't want to get into the weeds on this. We got the tree on Black Friday. It's a beautiful tree. Not a cheap tree. We're talking like 160 bucks for this Christmas tree. Now, they do load it on the Family Ford Explorer.
Starting point is 00:10:31 They do all the work for you. It's one of the most beautiful trees that you can buy. She's a Butte Clark. She's a Butte, a seven-foot butte, Clark. And on Black Friday, we put it up, we hung some lights on. My in-laws have arrived before Thanksgiving, and they left on Sunday. So yesterday evening, after my in-laws had left, we had two rambunctious boys, my wife and I, a seven-year-old, and a three-year-old, he turned three on Thanksgiving. He's a tornado.
Starting point is 00:11:03 And we said, all right, let's put up the ornaments. One of my most favorite days of the year is putting ornaments, the family heirlooms, on a Christmas tree. Every year since I was not even a year old, my mother and father have bought me on my behalf an ornament. Then as we got older, my brother and I were able to go into the Hallmark store and pick out our own ornaments. We have ornaments in this store that are in our box, in our possession, that are 43 years old. We've carried on this tradition, my wife and I, with our two sons. It's funny, my mom used to say, because I was no easy child. She used to say when she would get angry, and this is perhaps one of her biggest regrets to this day,
Starting point is 00:11:59 you are going to get what you are, meaning wait until you have children, Jerry. every parent's been in that scenario short fuse happens a lot on snow days goodness gracious okay and guess what we got i got what i was maybe amplified in our oldest and our youngest son who are ready to go on every given day so as we take the box the cardboard box out of the basement and we unbox my little family of four these treasures the most important possessions with family photos are these ornaments. And we start taking them out of their little hallmark ornament boxes and take the tissue paper out and look at the various ornaments. And I'm just flooded with emotion and memories of my childhood. Like some of these ornaments legitimately are more than
Starting point is 00:12:49 40 years old. And it's so challenging to explain to a three-year-old that's high energy that you cannot take the moose that's in a Christmas tree wreath. with a pool cue in his hand and balls that are decorating the Christmas tree reef as if they're Christmas ornaments and play with it. We had a pool table growing up. I enjoyed playing pool,
Starting point is 00:13:13 so one of the ornaments I picked 30-some years ago was a moose with a pool cue and a Christmas tree wreath with pool balls around the reef as if it was a decoration. Or you can't take Santa on a bicycle delivering gifts and roll them on the ground. Or you can't take a Christmas tree
Starting point is 00:13:30 John Deere tractor that's 40 years old and play with it. So it's this delicate transition. And the emotions really started flooding through the family yesterday. Some of the emotions. Some of it was the scotch. Some of it was the eggnog. Some of it was the IPAs. But it was seeing our little boys hang these 40-plus-year-old ornaments on our Christmas tree. As I unboxed the ornaments, I said, this is 41 years old. Or the one where it's our oldest son's first ornament. This is the first ornament you ever. had son or the ornament with our youngest son this ornament is you in a stocking we didn't tell him
Starting point is 00:14:11 this picture of him in a stocking when he was a month old that he peed all over the stocking okay that's the memory my wife and i have we didn't tell him that but i started looking at the price tags on these ornaments and this is this will lead us into one of the other headlines the ornaments there was a box from 30 years ago go, and the price of the ornament was $5. I looked at the box of the Hallmark ornament, same store, Hallmark. We go to Hallmark to buy them. I looked at a very nearly identical and size ornament, also from Hallmark purchased last year,
Starting point is 00:14:54 and it was $30. That means the cost of an ornament in 30 years has gone up. 600%. It's six-xed the cost of a Christmas tree ornament in 30 years, ladies and gentlemen. Okay. That's a snapshot of how expensive life has become. Put the school headline on screen, the lower third on school. Katea Cuff, the school board chair, she offers this comment in passing on the morning show this morning. This is Dr. Cata Cuff. She's the chair of the Almaro County School Board. She said if we had built this new high school in northern Almoreal County,
Starting point is 00:15:41 was it 2017, Judah? Yeah, that was when they first started trying to decide whether they needed a new school. She said we first thought about a new high school in northern Almore County in 2017, J-Dubs. And the price tag for that school was $120 million. dollars. Now the price tag for the school is a quarter of a billion dollars. You're talking a 2x increase for a school in Hollymead Forest Lakes from 2017 until 2025 with the estimation. And I can guarantee you when the school is finally constructed and the bill checks in, it's over a quarter of a billion. They always undershoot.
Starting point is 00:16:35 Now, even Cato Cuff and the school board are saying, hey, maybe the pushback we got from the Board of Supervisors in the joint session last week was justifiable. And we need more data from someone like Weldon Cooper, and let's commission them to provide us analytics on where school populations are going to go, Judah. Yeah. She realizes they need more data.
Starting point is 00:16:59 They need a longer timeline to plan. for new high school, and if that's where they're going, it's going to, you know, they're estimating $230 million. You know, do they even know how many, do they even know whether they're actually going to need the high school? They're, you know, they're building these centers, which they're very slow to get done. How much is that going to relieve the pressure of students in? in Albemarle County schools, with trends, you know, with people waiting longer and longer to
Starting point is 00:17:40 have kids, again, is the same, is the need going to be the same that they're expecting? Or is there, you know, is there going to be, are there going to be changes that affect how much space they're going to need? It's such an interesting and dynamic story for the following reasons, okay? post-COVID and post-pandemic, everything's gotten more expensive. And as a result of the escalated cost of quality of life and just living in nature, living your life in general, parents are choosing to have kids later and later, and they're choosing to have less kids if they choose to have kids at all. There's a population decline.
Starting point is 00:18:26 Everywhere. everywhere. Furthermore, Alamara County in particular is one of the most expensive counties in all of the Commonwealth of Virginia, and it's only becoming more expensive. As a result, the people that can afford to live in Alamara County are folks that are retirees, boomers, or folks that have wealth much higher than the median family household income of $126,000, according to HUD, a number that most certainly will go up when it's released in the first quarter of next year. So we have these data points that suggest, hey, families aren't having kids at the same rates they used to. families are choosing to have less children
Starting point is 00:19:19 the population of Almaro County may be increasing Walden Cooper has indicated in the past but that increase in population doesn't necessarily mean more children it could mean more boomers and retirees and wealthy families who choose to send their children to private schools
Starting point is 00:19:38 let's pump the brakes on the school and let's ask ourselves in 2017 it was going to cost us how much? $120 million. In 2025, it's going to cost us a quarter of a billion dollars. Is this money justifiable, and is this the best use of taxpayer resources? Now, one thing I will always justify is the $30 ornament for each of my children each year. And I guess I got to realize that that ornament every single year, like everything else is going to go up and cost.
Starting point is 00:20:11 30 years ago, it was a $5 ornament for my brother and I. Now it's a $30 ornament, respectively, $60 total for our two sons. But that value for us is history, it's lineage, its legacy, its stories, its memories, its emotions. The last thing the county, on the other hand, wants, is an empty high school that costs more than a quarter of a billion dollars in northern Almar County for a county that is going to have retirees, boomers, and wealthy families that are setting their kids to private school moving in over the next. generation or a handful of decades. And speaking of wealth in the area, these are
Starting point is 00:20:55 perfect segues into our next headlines. Judah, set the stage, the University of Virginia with the first headline, and the economic impact in the Commonwealth. Let's see. UVA's annual economic impact across VA is $12 billion. This new data
Starting point is 00:21:13 released, and you can find it on UVA, today, the media arm for the University of Virginia, UVA's annual statewide economic impact is nearly $12 billion. Annually, ladies and gentlemen. This includes directly and indirectly providing more than 67,000 jobs. This according to a report prepared by UVA's Weldon Cooper Center for Public Service. The Weldon Cooper is the benchmark for data in this market, for data across the Commonwealth.
Starting point is 00:21:44 the Weldon Cooper Center. One of its key players, Hamilton-Lombard, a hell of a squash player. See them often at the Borset. Was, I believe, a walk-on safety at the UVA football team right now, Hamilton-Lombard. I got some data points I'm going to relay to you. Then viewers and listeners,
Starting point is 00:22:03 I'm going to open up the conversation to your comments on the show, deep throats on deck. Ginny Who's offering comments. Stephanie Wells Rhodes is offering comments. Put your comments in the feed, and I'll relay I'm live on air. Tom Powell, thank you for watching the show. Rob Neal, thank you for watching the show. Eastern Tennessee's Jeremy Wilson, thank you for watching the show.
Starting point is 00:22:25 Here are a couple of cool tidbits for the viewers and listeners, from the report that was presented on Friday to the Board of Visitors. Weldon Cooper Report. The top line data point. UVA's economic impact across the state of Virginia is nearly $12 billion with a B, annually, which includes directly and indirectly more than 67,000 jobs. Unbelievable, ladies and gentlemen. Here's some other data points. UVA, which is obviously a major economic engine for the Commonwealth, directly or indirectly, is responsible for one in 85 jobs in the Commonwealth.
Starting point is 00:23:09 One out of 85 jobs in Virginia are directly or indirectly tied to UVA. Here's some other data points for you, and you have some lower thirds to rotate on screen. The report examined UVA's contributions to the state economy in fiscal year 2024, which spanned July 1, 2023 through June 30, 2024. 67,000 state jobs generated directly and indirectly by UVA, including UVA health and UVA-W-W-WIS. The report concluded that for every dollar, the state, invests into the University of Virginia, the Commonwealth gets a return $35. You invest one smackaroo, Richmond, politics, politicians, grants, funding, whatever you want to call it.
Starting point is 00:24:03 One smackaroo generates R.O.I. 35 smackaroos. It's amazing. Incredible return on investment. Nearly 740 million. an annual economic impact from student and visitor spending in central Virginia and around the college, UVA's college at Wise. Student and visitor spending is $740 million in Central Virginia, guys. How about this one? $455 million in tax revenue delivered to the state and local governments. How about this one? $2.6 billion in indirect impact by companies. and people doing businesses with UVA. And one last one.
Starting point is 00:24:49 And this is one that we can utilize for Almore County, Charlottesville, for athletics, cost of living. This one is a double-edged sword. Depending on how you look at it. Are you ready for this one? The report also found that after 10 years in the workforce, employees with UVA degrees earned 53% more than the average more than the average national wage and 41% more than the Commonwealth of Virginia average wage.
Starting point is 00:25:22 You have a UVA degree, you work for 10 years, you make 53% more than the people that do not have a UVA degree. You have a UVA degree, you work for 10 years, you make 41% more than people that do not have a UVA degree in Virginia. These aren't my stats. These are a report presented by the experts of the experts, the Welded Cooper Center to the Board of Visitors on Friday. Judah jump in here. Viewers and listeners put your comments in the field and the chat boxes and I will relay up live on air.
Starting point is 00:25:59 J-dubs. Let's rock and roll. Was it 53 or 41? I'll give it to you again. 53% more than the nation average and 41% more than the state average. Okay, I got you. It's great.
Starting point is 00:26:16 Until they move back here. And that's what's happening. Raise the median income. Some of us never left. Yeah. Some of us are moving back, especially post-COVID, when you can work from an ISP and you wax a nostalgic on the best four years of your life when he had very little responsibility. You had some spending money and you can enjoy life for 48 months.
Starting point is 00:26:41 before going into the workforce. Okay? You wonder why it's getting so expensive around here. These data points help back that up. It makes me also wonder the folks that are moving here that do have kids, will they enroll their kids in public schools? Comments in the feed. I will relay I'm live on air.
Starting point is 00:27:03 Let's go to Deep Throat. he says this UVA direct and indirect jobs at 67,000 does the viewership does your viewership realize that the entire Charlottesville MSA which is Charlottesville-Almorrow County Green Nelson and Fluvanna
Starting point is 00:27:28 only has 112,000 total jobs so basically we are a total environmental waste land other than what UVA generates directly or indirectly if you believe those numbers. Then he says, hmm, so let's see, $250 million for high school, well into six figures per student station. And at the same time, still people will say, let's build more housing. It will build up the tax base. That does not compute, friends. A $400,000 duplex will never pay the cost imposed by even one child who spends 13 years in public schools. That's why a lot of people make the argument, now these are my words. That's why a lot of people make the argument that the
Starting point is 00:28:07 incremental housing, new housing, is actually a strain on taxpayer resources. Chris Fairchild makes that point. Deep throat makes that point. The flip side of the equation is that if you don't have the housing, then the housing is just going to get more expensive. Okay. And Neil Williamson makes the point, how will the people stand up for themselves that need the housing if they don't have the housing here to be here to stand up for them? ourselves. That's the point Neil Williamson likes to me. Yeah. And Deep Throat says, I'd like to see a comparison of UVA graduate earnings to graduates of VCU, J.M.U and GMU. As opposed to just people across the Commonwealth. Yeah. That's good. Ginny Who watching the
Starting point is 00:28:58 program. It was Dave's B-Day. The Hoos did not deliver the gift he asked for. Is Dave your man there, Ginny Who? She also says, I have five generations of ornaments on my tree. It's one of my favorite traditions, too. I have one ornament for my great-grandmother that still has a price tag of 79 cents. And then Ginny Hu says, it's not just the wealthy leaving the public school system. Many one-income families happily make the sacrifices needed to homeschool,
Starting point is 00:29:29 and those numbers are steadily increasing as well. The homeschool numbers. from Ginny Who, who's a proud homeschooling family. Leeds is the matriarch of a proud homeschooling family. Stephanie Wells Rhodes is watching in Keswick. She says, that explains why I always see him at Guadalajara. Do you always see Stephanie at Guadalajara? I do see the Wells family quite often at Guadalajara. Yeah, because tacos are your spirit animal. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:03 Is the Guadalara here? The one that I usually see them at is the one on Pantops. Okay, that would make sense because they live out that way. Why you head to that one out of curiosity? That one is very good one. That one is one of my personal favorites. It might be, I don't know what their Sunday habits are, but oftentimes I end up at Guadalajara with my parents after church on Sunday.
Starting point is 00:30:28 So that's why we end up. up there on Sunday. I think that's usually when I see the Wells family over there. Vanessa Parkhill and Carol Thorpe, welcome to the show. Tom Powell, the founder of Toy Lift, welcome to the show. Jeremy Wilson in Eastern Tennessee, his photo on screen. Duke came out playing aggressively from the start, and we did not. A hundred percent Jeremy Wilson. He also says that this year's transfer portal is loaded, so let's see if Coach Elliott can do it again, only better. I'm watching that
Starting point is 00:30:59 as well, Jeremy Wilson. I'm watching to see if Chandler Morris were turns for a six year. That would be crazy. Barbara Becker Tilly is watching the program. She says it was a delightful Duke victory. I would imagine Barbara Becker Tilly is a JMU football fan, and that's why she's celebrating the delightful Duke victory. And you know what? Props to the JMU dukes. I got no shade to throw on JMU. No shade at all. Rob O'Neill watching the program. The income comparison is better measured by graduation rate, he says. Logan Wells Claylow watching the broadcast. Thank you, Logan Wells Claylo.
Starting point is 00:31:36 We appreciate your support. Love running into your husband as well, Logan Wells Claylow. Please make sure you pass that along to him. You will find few economic drivers more significant than the University of Virginia and the Commonwealth of Virginia. In fact, the only ones that come to mind for me are government contracting, the government, government contracting, the direct and indirect jobs from the government. Probably, and this is probably up near Williamson's alley, tourism, I would bet, and I'm curious of the numbers, that tourism has an annual economic impact that is more significant than the nearly 12 billion. In fact, we've talked that number in the past, the economic impact of tourism and the Commonwealth, and I would be willing to bet a $75 bottle of top-shelf scotch that, tourism is above that.
Starting point is 00:32:33 And I think you would probably have the direct and indirect economic impact of the real estate sector. So the only ones, and this is a great one for John Blair, for Neil Williamson, for Deep Throat, for Rob Neal, the only ones, and I'm just doing this off the cuff that I can think of, that have more of an economic impact on the annual than the 12 billion of UVA, government is number one, direct and indirect. Two, I would bet you it's the real estate sector, direct and indirect. Because that supply chain is robust and significant.
Starting point is 00:33:12 Three, I would say, is tourism. Off the top of my head, I cannot think of one that has more economic impact than that. Direct and indirect. I'd be very curious to know if anybody else has some insight on that on the program. Judah Wickhauer, jump in here, thoughts, comments, ideas. We're a UVA town. What are you going to do? Company town.
Starting point is 00:33:39 Yeah. We're a company town. A lot of those data points can be used against Michael Payne with the payment in lieu of taxes, the pilot that he's trying to push. Because you're saying that there wouldn't even be a Charlottesville without UVA? I'm saying, look at what they're doing. Right? do you buy that argument because that's the argument UVA uses
Starting point is 00:34:05 but we're talking about economic impact across across the entire state I mean obviously they bring a lot to the area but I mean the counter argument is I think valid too they use the same thing they use the streets they use the infrastructure
Starting point is 00:34:26 and you know if that falls apart then what's UVA left with it's I think an easy argument either way and
Starting point is 00:34:42 it mostly is just going to depend on on what side you like better Conan Owen watching the program the owner of Sir Speedy of Central Virginia let's give them some props they have the banner they did the banner directly behind me the vinyl lettering on our storefront. Our 24 tenants in our in our portfolio, their signage executed by Sir Speedy
Starting point is 00:35:02 Central Virginia, and they're helping a lot of our client roster as well with our consulting business. Conan Owen is a Darden graduate, Sir Speedy of Central Virginia. His comments, he says if the property, he's talking with Deep Throat here. Deep Throat setting me DMs on Twitter, and Conan Owen is responding to those DMs on Twitter with a comment on our live stream on LinkedIn. This is truly dynamic right here. What's happening? Okay. Conan says if the property taxes on a $400,000 or even $500,000 townhouse or duplex cannot carry the freight on a single student in the public schools, then maybe we should look at how much we are spending on education, especially the administrative bloat. Yeah. Yeah. So much of that bloat is Dr. Superintendent Matthew, Dr. Matthew Haas, and his lieutenants, his C-suite, and the top of the pyramid. Yeah. But no one wants to mention that. See, it's interesting to me.
Starting point is 00:36:00 Well, we've... We mentioned that. We've also got... Well, maybe now we've got a... What do you say? A countervalent voice on the school board. What does that mean? Just the fact that...
Starting point is 00:36:16 I mean, for how long have we just had a board, a school board, that's willing to back anything that... that Dr. Haas does or says, and they will, you know, vote them an extra, vote them extra a year, an extra couple years. How's this a message to the school board? You ready for this message to the school board? K to Cuff, Allison Spillman. In fact, I'm going to use every school board member by name.
Starting point is 00:36:49 Albemarle school board members. I'm Googling it. I'm clicking the link that shows up on screen. let's go to the almoreos county school board page dr kata cuff is the is the chair i've always been torn on this do you call a non-medical professional that has a phdd a doctor i think you generally do so you get dr kata cuff even though she's not a medical doctor yeah like dr matthew hoss Okay, we'll go with it, all right? I've always wondered that.
Starting point is 00:37:27 Yeah, I mean, the Ph.D. is a doctorate. Okay. Dr. Cato Cuff, Chairwoman. Rebecca, Dr. Rebecca Berlin, Vice Chair. Leslie Pryor, Ryo District. Judy Lee, Rivenna District. Graham Page, Samuel Miller District. Ellen Osborne, Scottsville District.
Starting point is 00:37:50 Allison Spillman Judah's favorite school board member at large representative that chuckle says a thousand words now some of those names will change come January including your friend Jim Dylanback Jim Dylanback who's on the seat
Starting point is 00:38:08 beat Leslie Pryor right yeah okay so I'm going to ask this question of the viewers and listeners the school board members who are calling imploring begging, insisting, demanding a quarter of a billion dollars for a new school in northern Almara County, rather than call for a quarter billion dollar new school, is the consideration
Starting point is 00:38:33 better spent on how you can trim fat for a school system that statistically, academically, has been underperforming, especially post-COVID. How I run our business is not by asking for more and more. more. It's by figuring out to optimize to get more for everyone. Just my two cents. I would tend to agree. My two cents. Deep Throat says to Conan. He says, amen to Conan. 30,000 per pupil per year in Charlottesville City schools. Yeah, that's crazy. $30,000 per student to educate them per year. in Charlottesville City Schools.
Starting point is 00:39:23 And anytime the students aren't doing well, they want more money. It's like, well, no, other people are doing this with less money. You don't need more administrators. You don't need more money if you need to figure out what you're doing wrong and fix it. Ginny Who agrees exactly on the bureaucracy cost. Let's also look at failing test scores. A new building isn't going to fix that. Some will cry, but smaller class sizes, A, that's just part of the problem.
Starting point is 00:39:52 And B, good luck finding the extra teachers, even if you do. It means more money spent out of pocket. Taxpayers at Amarra County, you guys are about to get hammered. And I'm saying this with a caution, with a voice of caution, because I live at Almara County. Just are two cents going out there. Next headline, Judah Woodcaro, what do you got? Let's see. Grand Illumination.
Starting point is 00:40:18 Back on the menu, boys. This time for a Wednesday? What are they going to do? I mean, I get it. It's a tough day. Are we looking at, is this Sunday, is this Friday going to be? Are we going to have another blizzard? I mean, goodness gracious, what is real winter going to look like if we've had two snowstorms already before in the first week of December?
Starting point is 00:40:42 This is rare. This is extremely rare. I'm all for it. Of course you are. This is where you say bah humbug, Jerry. Bah hubbug, I mean... I'm the one with the two children and one of them that's out of school.
Starting point is 00:40:58 Out of school on Friday. And out of school today. Our seven-year-old right now is driving my wife crazy on a four-day weekend. After... Move south. Move south. It's a live in Maine.
Starting point is 00:41:15 We had more than... I get it. Perspective. Comparison is the thief of joy. I had to walk up state up hill. I walk bare foot, two miles uphill to get to school and the freezing cold and the snow. No, actually I did not. I actually did not. I did work my way through college though. Conan Owen, the average wage, not average wage for a college graduate. What is the gap with William and Mary or Virginia Tech degrees, if any? Conan Owen also says total Virginia tourism spend was 35 billion last year so even if you give
Starting point is 00:41:52 Central Virginia one-third that's only 12 billion plus a lot of local tourism is UVA related games grads returning for reunions etc said total Virginia tourism is 35 billion last year the total economic impact of UVA was 12 billion now here's the challenge here's the challenge here. Total Virginia tourism impact was $35 billion. Conan Olin, just put it in the feed. Total
Starting point is 00:42:24 UVA economic impact was $12 billion. How much of the UVA economic impact bleeds into tourism? Yeah, what's the overlap? Numbers can say anything. Next headline, Judah Wickhauer, what do you got? And the Grand Illumination is this Wednesday. We're trying to give a plug for the Grand Illumination.
Starting point is 00:42:51 Yeah, three cheers for Oatmeal the Third. Oatmeal the Third. What do you got on the next one? La Micho Ocana is... Are you set the stage for this one? One of the great taco places in Charlottesville is La Michua Kana. Takaria, and if you've visited their store right there on East High Street, across the street from the Sunshine Gas Station, it's a pretty small little place. It's got probably, what, like
Starting point is 00:43:35 four sets of booths and maybe a couple tables, and then they've got a little outdoor area. I happen to be coming down. I think I decided to turn from Mead onto Stewart getting to East High. And I saw that the former Dominoes there on Stewart Street was, the front of that building is completely made up as Lamichua Kana now. and they've got signs saying that they're coming soon and I'm excited to see what that place is going to look like. La Mieto Kana is embodies the Charlesville American Dream.
Starting point is 00:44:27 I've been patronizing La Mieto Kana on East High Street. When in La Mieto Kana open? Let me see if I can find this out. Do you know when La Mieto Kana opened? No, I don't. What is their Facebook page? Their website. I don't know if they have a website.
Starting point is 00:44:46 They have a website. Okay. They definitely have a website. I was on it. Okay. Do they not have a website? I don't think they do. They may have at one point.
Starting point is 00:44:56 See if you can find it. I believe I've been patronizing LaMutche Ocana for 20 years. Charlottesville. Let's see if I can find it. When did it open? July 2015. All right. That can't be right.
Starting point is 00:45:14 That can't be right. Ten years? No, that's LaFloor Beach O'Connor. That's the ice cream place. How about the Takeria on High Street? Can you find that out? Conan, do you know that? Hmm.
Starting point is 00:45:32 I remember going in there a long, long time ago. And it was a husband and wife with one of their kids working in the cash register. And that's the only people working in the restaurant. Husband and wife and one of their kids. The parents doing the cooking and the kids on the cash register. And I got some of the best tacos I've ever had in my life and a hole in the wall joint next to a Molly maid.
Starting point is 00:46:02 They are absolutely, we have an abundance of tacos locally, taqueria is locally. And very under the radar, High Street has some of the best comfort food in the entire region. The steak and cheese at Fabio's is one of the best steak and cheeses in town, period. Who's going to argue that the bacon cheeseburger at Riverside
Starting point is 00:46:27 is not the best burger in town? Who's going to argue against La Mieto Kana tacos? And if you have beef with La Mieto Cana tacos, you've got Tacos Gomez right up the street. And you want some fried fish with Angeliques right up the street? I mean, give me a corridor that's got Jack and Jills and footlong hot dogs and a stovetop, a grill top that hasn't changed in 50 years. The reincarnation of Tubby that's been there for a generation plus, you can go down High Street, Judah Wickhauer, and hit sandwiches at Tubby, foot longs at Jack and Jills
Starting point is 00:47:04 with crushed ice bacon cheese burgers and a basket of fries and some fried jalapeno deep fried jalapeno at Riverside the steak and cheese at Fabios. Did I already say that? I'm losing track. Angeliques
Starting point is 00:47:20 Yeah. That very DL is some of the best comfort food in the Commonwealth. Look at this man's going down the rabbit hole. The show's over of when La Mee Chocana open over there. We'll figure it out. You know what?
Starting point is 00:47:34 I'm just going to go in and ask them. I'll go in and ask them in person. You might have to do that, too. Next headline, what do you got, Judah? That might be close to the end. That's all we've got. That's all we got. Great show on a snowy and chilly and sloshing Monday in downtown Charlottesville.
Starting point is 00:47:55 Tomorrow at 10.15 a.m., the Jerry and Jerry show with Virginia Sports Hall of Fame or Jerry Rackleaf. We're going to talk about the Virginia football season, and we're going to talk about the fact that they have Missouri and the Gator Bowl on December 27th. Still an opportunity to win 11 games and have the most wins in a season in Virginia football history.
Starting point is 00:48:14 That's something, ladies and gentlemen. And it's phenomenal momentum and positivity going into basketball season. And the basketball team looks filthy, filthy rich and loaded. We'll give some love to Oak Valley Custom Hearts games. If you have a custom heartscape that you need
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