The I Love CVille Show With Jerry Miller! - Western Albemarle HS Student Replies To Spillman; Noah Coffin, President, Turning Point USA at WAHS

Episode Date: October 6, 2025

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Welcome to the I Love Seville Show, guys. My name is Jerry Miller. Thank you kindly for joining us on a Monday afternoon in downtown Charlestville. A lot we're going to cover on the program, including now an official statement from Western Amoral High School and its Turning Point USA chapter. This is a chapter at Western Amoral High School of Minor High School of mine. of high school students, and they have now offered an official statement on social media as it applies to Allison Spillman and the Almore County School Board member Spillman, her comparison of Turning Point USA, Western Ammore High School, to the Ku Klux Klan. We are going to air in totality the statement from Western Amore High School. student Noah Coffin, who is the president of Turning Point USA at Western Amarral High School. We remind you the viewer and listener that this Thursday, there's an Almaral County School Board

meeting where Allison Spillman is going to be on a dais in front of an auditorium that most certainly will be absolutely crowded with people on both sides of the day. the fence. And Allison Spillman, ladies and gentlemen, has created a hornet's nest with her word choice. Whether you agree or disagree with Spilman, whether you think Spilman's comments were taking out of context, or Spilman's comments were absolutely in a disgusting context. One thing we can all agree in is that Allison Spilman's word choice has created a hornet's. nest in a whirl of negativity for the school system that she represents and the school system that she was elected to lead.

No one can disagree with that. Her word choice has created an absolute hornet's nest in a den of potential destruction for Almore County Public Schools. We're going to air the statement from Noah Kaufin, the Western Amarral High School student, president of the Turning Point USA chapter at Western Memorial High School on today's show. We're also going to discuss the $6.2 million purchase of 2000 Holiday Drive. That is a potential future campus and epicenter for the houseless community locally. That $6.2 million deal, which is on paper, goes before council tonight. There's two meetings.

where this will be discussed. One, ladies and gentlemen, tonight, and one about a month from now where there's public comment that's going to be offered. This is an opportunity for the city to create a potential solution for the houseless population and how this population is managed in hand-up capacity.

We'll talk about that on today. show we have to discuss jones she's louise we have a lieutenant we have an attorney general candidate and jones who in 2002 just a few years ago texted a a political colleague about shooting then house speaker todd gilbert and his children why j jones a former norfolk delegate and one-time assistant Attorney General, would choose to text delicate Carrie Coiner of Chesterfield, text messages where Jones describes the scenario in which House Speaker Todd Gilbert gets two bullets to the head, followed by Jay Jones's wish that Gilbert's children die in their mother's arms. That was in the text message from Jay Jones to a political colleague, Carrie Coiner,

of Chesterfield. These comments, these tax messages are now coming to light. Of course, they come to light about a month removed, ladies and gentlemen, from a very competitive attorney general race where Jason Miari's, the incumbent, is seeking another term. What was Jay Jones thinking? And how far does this stick to the rest of the candidates on the Democratic ticket? A lot to cover on today's program. This is commentary, this is strategy, or lack thereof, that is reminiscent of Terry McCullough and his loss to Glenn Yonkin, where he said not once, not twice, but three times that parents should not play a role, active role, and their students' public school education. Just absolute incompetence. We'll talk about that on today's show, and we'll talk

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There's the Peter Chang news that broke last week. There's how Blue Ridge Area Coalition for the Homeless and Patcham and the Haven will respond to this $6.2 million shelter. There's Tony Elliott

going from outhouse to Penn house, there's so much content on the program that we don't have enough headline space to cover the storylines in our fine and fair community. And you know what? We're going to try to do it. We'll do our best. Which headline most intrigues you and why? Oh, man, so much to talk about. I was really impressed with the president of Turning Point USA at W-A-H-S, Noah Coffin. His message was succinct. It was far more mature than anything we've heard out of Allison Spillman.

And I appreciate the fact that these kids are continuing. They probably must realize that Allison Spillman is not the only one in the schools. system that feels this way about, about them as young, you know, young, impressionable growing students, to realize that the school board and others are, think of you, think of you the way she does, has got to be at times disheartening. Absolutely. I would like for the viewers and listeners that watch and listen to this show to consider the impressionable feelings, the teenage mentality, the teenage mindset of knowing that school board members, that the superintendent of Almore County Public Schools, and his staff and lieutenants, that many in this community are linking their efforts as the Turning Point USA chapter at Western Amoral High School to that of the Ku Klux Klan.

And you say, wait, what do you mean the superintendent of schools, Jerry, Dr. Matthew Haas? On Friday, Dr. Haas issued a statement, which was co-signed by the school board chair and the school board vice chair. And this statement issued by the superintendent and the two chairs of the school board did not offer any kind of apology, did not distance Almore County public schools from Allison Spillman's comments, did not say we do not stand with Allison Spillman and her link of the Ku Klux Klan to a student group at Western Amor High School? All Matthew Haas's statement that was co-signed by a school board chair and vice chair did was offer word salad, almost as if it was written by chat GBT, no apology and no distance from hateful, nasty, divisive rhetoric

from at-large member, Alison Spillman. So without further ado, what you will see and hear, ladies and gentlemen, first on the I Love Seville show, and I see print, radio, and television watching this program now. I encourage the Daily Progress,

Charlottesville Media Group, Monicello Media, NBC29, and CBS19, Seville Weekly, and Seville Tomorrow to follow our lead here, and to take the statement we are about to air from Noah Coffin on Instagram on the Western Amoral High School Turning Point USA branded account

and turn it into content for your old media and legacy media news cycles. Judah Wickhauer, please play Noah Coffin, the chapter president of Turning Point USA and his response to school board at-large member, Alison Spillman. Good evening. My name is Noah Kaufen, president of Turning Point USA at Western Namoral High School. school. As many of you are aware, school board member Alison Spillman made comments comparing

our chapter in Victoria Cobb to the KKK. Her words were completely inappropriate and unfounded. But I want to make one thing clear. This only makes us more determined to stand up for our chapter and all of the values that we represent. These comments have drawn national attention, including coverage from Fox News. The upcoming Alamo County School Board meeting is expected to draw a large crowd, and it is crucial that we show up in strong numbers to represent what Attorney Point USA truly stands for. Freedom of speech, dialogue, and the courage that stands for our beliefs. The meeting is this Thursday, October 9th at 6.30 p.m. in Lane Auditorium. Please arrive by 615, and if you want to speak during public comments, see the link in the comments and

description below. Above all, remember to love our opposition and treat everyone with dignity. Our composure and unity will speak volumes louder than any criticism. Thank you for standing strong, and I look forward to seeing all of you at the meeting. Noel Coffin, Turning Point USA, Western Amarroa High School, chapter president. Do you see the PR nightmare that Allison Spillman has created, viewers, and listeners? I want to dissect what's happening on every layer of the onion. First, the most obvious layer of the onion. And the most obvious layer of the onion is the fact that Allison Spillman, who's a school board member,

has positioned Almaro County Public Schools in the national, news cycle, in a national new cycle where national outlets, if not global outlets, are utilizing the word Ku Klux Klan and Alamara County Public Schools and Headlines. In the most obvious scenario, a school board member who's an adult has positioned a county public school system full of minors under a global magnifying glass of intensity with the words Ku Klux Klan a part of that magnifying glass. In the most basic analysis of what's happened, it's obvious that Allison Spillman's word choice has negatively attracted attention to Almore County Public Schools. There's not a single person that watches and listens to this show that can disagree with that statement.

And I'll say it one more time. Allison Spillman's word choice has negatively attracted attention to Almore County Public Schools. No one can disagree with that. Now, some people are disagreeing with Allison Spillman's words are being taken out of context. Some people are saying she's not directly comparing the Ku Klux Klan. to teenagers in Western Almore in Almore County public schools. And there's some people that are using the tomato tomato, glasses half full, glasses half empty. There's some context that needs to be interpreted.

I don't understand that argument at all. I don't understand that argument and give it zero merit. I give it zero merit. But the people who are utilizing that argument, it's context. You're taking out of context. that argument of taking Alison Spillman's words out of context is the same argument that is causing this fire storm. It's also gaslighting.

It's gaslighting. Go ahead. Making an outrageous statement, making a defamatory statement, saying something horrible or saying something that may cause someone to decide to enact violence, and then after the fact saying, Oh, well, that's not how I meant it. That's not what I, that's not, you're missing the context.

You're taking it out of context. I'm sorry, we have all of the context here. There is no missing context. If there was extra context, she should have added it in her initial post. She said what she meant to say. And as Jerry mentioned, the superintendent and the two chairs have done nothing to distance themselves or denounce that statement? The superintendent

in the two chairs of the school board if anything have fueled the fire we're at a campfire and it's like the Boy Scouts and they've gone out for a weekend of camping

and the PAC leader is nowhere to be seen so one of the mischievous Boy Scouts decides to douse the fire with gasoline and fuel to make it larger and more captive and potentially dangerous. That's what the superintendent and the two chairs have done. They've doused the fire with fuel. The superintendent and the two chairs had an opportunity to dampen the fire, if not extinguish the damage. And Haas and the two chairs

could have dampened and or extinguished the political, the PR collateral damage by basically saying Allison Spillman is on her own with those comments. The school board does not stand. with her comments. The school system does not stand with her comments. We, Almore County Public Schools as superintendent and chair and vice chair of the school board, we support free speech and we support healthy debate and healthy dialogue, even though we may not agree with said debate and said dialogue. This is a country that's founded on the right to free speech. And if you conduct the free speech within manners that follow the letter of the law, you're entitled to that right. the superintendent and the vice chair did not do that they fueled it and now this thursday night ladies and gentlemen

in almore county in an auditorium right in the heart of charlesville a school board meeting will be held that will be one of the most anticipated one of the most watched and one of the most attended school board meetings an Almoral County public school history. That is not hyperbole. And the most dangerous aspect of Thursday's meeting, the most concerning aspect of Thursday's meeting, as many who will be in attendance will have zero to little tie to Almore County public schools. Their ties will be to Turning Point USA. Their ties will be to Charlie Kirk. Their ties will be to the freedom of speech and the right for free dialogue, their ties could be to the far right.

And when you start getting people in our community in a civic, public discourse or forum that have no real ties to the community, that's when the unpredictable can happen. That's when the dangerous could happen. That's when the concerning can happen because they're not community stewards that are a part of the discourse of the dialogue.

Do you see what Allison Spillman has created? Does she have the character in herself? Does she have the self-reflection in herself? Does she have the maturation within herself to realize, geez Louise, I legitimately have positioned Almore County Public Schools on a global platform in a negative light with headlines covering the system that include the KKK. I'll ask the question that I asked on Friday. Is it time for Allison Spillman to resign from the school board? And how much does the spillman stench? How much does the Spillman stink? Cling to Matthew Hoss, the chair and the vice chair? That's where we're at now. And to know a coffin, and I'm going to open up the show to

your comments. So if you have comments on this, put them in the feed, and I will relay them live on number one in the family is back of the mix deep throat you're in the batters box if number two in the family he does have comments john blair number two in the family on deck although i think he is talking about the j jones issue i'll close with this whether you agree with the platform of turning point USA or not, you have to give Noah Coffin, the Western Amory High School student and the chapter president, some props and praise. Because his poise, his word choice, his sensibility, his level-headedness was obvious in his commentary and his statement. And the way he carried himself with thinking before you speak is the antithesis of one of seven people, Alison Spilman,

who have been entrusted with a quarter billion dollar yearly school budget and most importantly entrusted with the direction of Almore County public schools. Comments coming in quicker than I can keep up. every media outlet locally is watching the show as we speak this is from deep throat number one in the family she's just not very bright alison spillman deep throat says as far as i can tell if one dislikes turning point USA the optimal approach is probably just to ignore it saying saying stuff like she did just confirms their narrative

how stupid can you be deep throat adds she just got that chapter probably 10 times the support and a national profile. Deep throat adds, congratulations, Allie. And for a white lady, deep throat says, like Spillman, to trade on the legacy

of anti-black racism using the KKK analogy to try to push or defend the trans agenda is a pretty gross theft of moral authority. Great points. From number one in the family. Number two in the family,

John Blair has comments on Jay Jones. We're going to get to the Jay Jones text messages from 2022, where he literally is putting in text message capacity that a political adversary should be shot in the head and his children should be dying in his mother's arms. I mean, what is going on in the world? Yeah. That these are the leaders.

Kate Sharts has these comments. My friend who moved here last year said she got online looking at Almore County Public Schools before coming here and she said she's glad she isn't moving here now because she would have had a horrible view of it. Meanwhile, we have a top 25 ranked elementary school but no one sees that because of all of this drama instead.

Sondra McDaniel, these comments. Spillman needs to step down as a resident of Almore County, I think it's imperative to give all viewpoints of voice in a club setting. What Allison Spillman did last week is very much akin to what Nakaya Walker did when she was the mayor of Charlottesville, when she compared the city of Charlottesville to a woman being raped in a poet, in a poet, in a poet, poem that she wrote. The mayor of Charlottesville, just like the school board member of Albemarle County, should be the champions of the city and the champions of the school system. The mayor of Charlottesville and the at-large school board member of Alboral County Public Schools, they can figure out ways to improve their respective organizations, the ones they are leading. But they must realize that every word they utilize, whether in poetry, whether on a private Facebook account, will be associated with their politically elected position.

And when they position the bodies that they have been elected to lead in a national, if not global light, and negative capacity, they've done the opposite of what they were elected to do. Janice Boyce Trevillian's comments, her photo on screen. I think part of the problem is the misclassification of Turning Point. It is a group that is pro-American in peace, along with free speech and Christian values. It's as far from KKK as possible. Spilman has an agenda with her own child. That's what's happening here. Janice Bois Trevillian's comments.

Yeah, 100%. And sadly, I would argue, that she doesn't know anything about the group, nor does she know anything about the students in the group, and is... My wife thinks that Spillman, and this is just speculation, that she was just shooting off of the hip on social media while having too much to drink.

Could be true. Because she's like, why would any sane and sensible person ever do something like that in a world called social media where it's like printing it in the newspaper, It's worse than printing it in the newspaper. No one reads the newspaper. It's worth Facebook is the world's newspaper.

Sadly. No one reads the newspaper. They read social media. So she's like maybe she had too much to drink that night and shot off the hip. The pushback on that, which I said to my wife is, was the follow-up statement. Exactly. She had a chance to retract. She had a chance to retract.

If anything, Spillman, made it worse. Thursday, this is going to be the most watched, the most attended, Alboro County School Board meeting maybe in its history. And the scary and frightening thing is, many that will be watching and many who will be attending are not actually stewards of our Al Morrow County community. Yeah, I was going to say the scary thing is that I pray, pray, pray that this is a well... Secured, monitored.

It is... If any Almore County Public School parent or if any Almore County Public School official is anti-metal detectors, well, you're certainly going to need them on Thursday. Because if that meeting happens and there's not clear, cut metal detector protection, then you are, I'll leave it at that. I will leave it at that. And then I'll close by saying, I said it Friday, and now I'm going to say it here on a Monday. I think it's time for the at-large school board member, Alison Spillman, to offer her resignation. At this point, I think I'm a hundred

percent with you. Her resignation is the only thing right now that can damp it and stifle this volatile and dangerous flame. Chad Wood, hopefully everyone acts like they have some sense on Thursday. I'm knocking on wood. I'm crossing my fingers and I'm saying a prayer. Lord, please help sensibility and safety to prevail on Thursday evening with this. school board race, please. Amen. Next headline, Judah Wickower, put it on screen. What is it, please, sir?

Oh, let's see, counsel to consider 6.2 million real estate purchase. This goes before council tonight. A $6.2 million taxpayer spend on 2000 holiday drive, 3.8 acres, a 27,000 square foot office building. I think you have some slides that you can put on screen to offer kind of paint a picture of what the city is looking to buy. Of course, this needs council approval. The first of the two readings is tonight. A public hearing will be

held on October 20th, which is a couple of weeks from now. 27,094 square foot building constructed in 1964, 800 feet away from the Charlottesville area transit stop on Emmett Street. Right next to the Rivana Trail, in the absolute heart of Charlottesville City, with a building that was underperforming, the city has found a building, ladies and gentlemen, that is perfectly primed in position

for positive performance for not just Charlottesville, Virginia, not just Almaro County, but the region of central Virginia. I want to first offer props and praise to city manager Sam Sanders, who realizes he has a serious problem on his hands. And I think city council is starting to realize the problem they have on their hands. Your sales tax collections are down, and they've been down since early 2024 and into 2025.

Your meals tax collections are down. Your transient occupancy taxes are down. Your foot traffic of tourists are down. your tourism tax collection revenue is down your city home values are down every lever that sam sanders and city council have to fund and appropriate a yearly physical budget are down every lever is down every funding mechanism is down it took key performance indicators

to be running in the red for a second consecutive year before local government sprung into action had local government had been listening to this talk show for that period of time they would have known that these levers and these KPI's were heading in the wrong direction.

And how do I know that? Because it's how I make my living. I listen to the folks that work in real estate, and they tell us what the values are doing. The restaurant owners are our clients. Three of the top, six restaurant owners in the region, I know intimately.

The tourism folks are our clients. They're reaching out to us. Travis Wilburn's come on the program to talk about it. The hotel years are our clients and friends. The landlords, clients and friends. We've been talking about this for two years on this program. We told you about this $6.2 million purchase a month ago. The information comes to us because the people in positions

of power and influence, or the people at the negotiating tables understand that the platform has influence, and they say you should relay this to your following. How this $6.2 million purchase impacts Charlottesville is in the following ways. And Juan Diego Wade, you should get a notepad and pen out, please, sir. Tonight, you green light the $6.2 million purchase, and we understand it's going to head to public comment on the 20th of October. You show significant support, Juan Diego Wade, and counsel tonight. You say, on the 20th of October, we're also going to have significant support. You understand that $6.2 million is a lot of money, but it's the tip of the iceberg.

Millions more will be needed to outfit the 27,000 square foot office building to turn it, into a shelter and campus for the homeless that includes wraparound services, beds, showers, laundry, addiction counseling, resume building, computer labs, lounge area. You champion the $6.2 million purchase, and you champion the millions more to outfit the space by highlighting that it's 800 feet, 800 feet away from public transportation. You champion this purchase by suggesting it's also near the Rivana Trail, which we know the houseless population utilizes as a way to get around town and navigate our community. You champion this purchase because it's in the heartbeat of the community. It's a building that's underperforming and underutilizing.

It's an asset that's going to uptick and value should the city choose to purchase it. And if the, you know what hits the fan and the city needs to exit this holding, this video, this space. purchase is not going to diminish in value, it's going to increase in value. If the city somehow manages to solve the houseless epidemic, and there's not a need for a 27,000 square foot facility on acreage right next to a major artery, the city can exit, and it can exit at return on investment. These are the terminology, the language, and the word choice, Juan Wade, you should be using tonight. Please take notes, sir. And if anyone chooses tonight on the 20th of October to hate on this plan, to offer shade on this plan,

you must Juan Wade and city council push back on them and say, hey, you had a problem with a shelter in Belmont. Hey, you had a problem with a shelter in Fifeville. We're running out of spaces here. And then, city council and Juan Wade, I'm looking at you, you're the mayor. Jen Fleischer, you're about to replace Brian Pinkston. I'm talking to you. Lloyd Snook, I'm highlighting you. You're a friend of the program, but you've been sitting kind of in the background of late,

and it looks like to me, you're just counting the days down to your second terms over so you can go off into retirement. You seem a lot less engaged of late, Lloyd Snook. I hope you hear that, my friend. Natalie Oshart and Michael Payne, your politics have put the position, put the city in this position, Natalie Oshard and Michael Payne. I'm talking to you. After this $6.2 million is approved, and after millions more are spent on Upfit,

the city is going to be all in north of $10 million on this project. And when the city is all in north of $10 million on this project, that shelter ordinance on the downtown mall, Judah, needs to go before council again. The one they tabled indefinitely, because the whole premise of that shelter ordinance on the downtown mall was they had no place to offer the homeless when they asked them to leave the downtown mall. Well, now you do. I think that ordinance is more important to the downtown mall than this shelter will be. A thousand percent agree with that. This shelter is needed to get us to a place where the activists have no reason to activism, or whatever the word is, activate against

the shelter ordinance. We are at a point in society. ladies and gentlemen, where the city of Charlottesville is going to have to take more than $10 million of taxpayer money, the $6.2 million to purchase plus millions more to outfit, just to have the leverage to pass a shelter ordinance.

I was talking with a heavy hitter at a squash tournament on Friday night, and I said, I'm not going to utilize his name. This is good news, right? this is good news he's like shouldn't the city already disallow the shelter and sleeping in public spaces why do we need to spend more than $10 million to get to this point and I didn't have an initial response to that and then after thinking about it for a day I should have said well that's the politics of Charlottesville and the politics of Charlottesville and the

Politics of Charlottesville suggests that we need to over-solutionize problems. And some would say a $10 million taxpayer spend is an oversolutionize of a problem that seems pretty straightforward. Don't let people camp out in the business district. This is what, you know what this is called in the private sector? Then you jump in, Judah. You know what? This is called it by world.

This is called the cost of the. doing business in my world the cost of doing business your point i think ultimately building the the shelter is a good thing but it could have been done without becoming the you know without becoming necessary just to pass an ordinance to help the downtown mall a shelter is a good thing it's a good thing for charlonsville it's a good thing for the the houseless population of charlottesville i hope that they'll use it. I hope they'll take what's necessary from it and

accept the help. But in terms of being necessary to get the ordinance passed, it's kind of absurd. Comments, put them in the feed. I'll relay them live on air. Vanessa Parkhill, the queen of Eureleysville. Before we get to comments,

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Vanessa Park Hill says the holiday drive property is not in the heart of Charlottesville. It is a stone's throw from the city county line. It is also a stone's throw from one of the main entrance corridors in Almore County.

Should definitely be better than a downtown location. Yeah. You can get from the downtown mall to to 2000 to the Holiday Drive property in less than 10 minutes. I mean, this is Charlottesville. It's not large.

Bill McChesney says, one thing you are not highlighting, and this is a fair point from William, is the city is taking more property off the tax rolls. and he's highlighting, with the city owning this, tax collection will not be collected on this property. Now, my response to that is, Bill, the incremental tax collection that comes from a cleaned-up business district

will far supersede the tax collected from this specific property real estate-wise. If this strategy does what, its plan to do, sales tax, meals tax, tourism tax, lodging tax, and real estate values will all increase in value because the most important eight blocks of the region, the downtown mall, will be beautified as it heads into its 50-year anniversary, the pedestrian downtown mall next year. I've said this once, I'll say it again, for anyone that's watching and listening to the program. I've been consistent with this message for about

90 to 120 days, when I determine risk with what I'm investing in, when I determine risk for my clients and helping them gain market share, I try to assess what's going on in my hometown, my market. And I truly believe that we are at a bottom for Charlottesville City, and the trajectory is bullish and upward. The $6.2 million, the shelter, the ordinance that follows, strengthens my argument that we are at a bottom for Charlottesville and that the trajectory is looking bullish and upward. 120 marker. I have a 130 call. Next headline, Judah Wickhauer. What is it, my friend? Oh, Jay Jones. I mean, Jay Jones is gone from electable to laughing stock. You disagree? I think it was despicable what he said, but it was

three years ago. Was it not? I believe it was. It was 2022. I'm surprised you're going with this argument, but go ahead. I won't interrupt you. He's apologized. We can call out despicable behavior. I believe we should. But I'm still against this

fishing through people's past to find things, to cancel them over. Wow. But you said earlier in the program that Allison Spilman should resign. She just made that remark like literally the other day.

So the difference between the Spillman comments comparing high school students to the Ku Klux Klan and Jay Jones, the attorney general candidate who's challenging Jason Miari's who in 2022

in a text message exchange with delegate Carrie Koiner, a Republican from Chesterfield, Jay Jones Tex Coiner. I hope that House Speaker Todd Gilbert gets two bullets to the head

and then follows that statement with a wish that Todd Gilbert's children die in their mother's arms. It's despicable. So you give him the benefit of grace because it was three years ago, but Spillman doesn't get the same benefit of the grace in your book because it was last week.

They are, Different circumstances, yes. Jay's circumstances aren't more significant, murder, children, death, bloodshed? I think they're despicable. I think they can and should and will affect the outcome of any vote for him. But I'm against, like I said, sifting through people's pasts, looking for reasons to cancel them. Viewers and listeners, your thoughts on Judith's statement. I find his comments deplorable.

I do too. Dispicable? I think Jay Jones now should drop out of the race. He probably should. And the next question is, how much of the stink sticks to Spamberger and other Democrats at the top of the ticket? How much does it trickle down the ticket? How much of these comments become the Terry McCullough Gaff

from the McCullough-Yunkin campaign or election? cycle, when McCullough said not once, not twice, but three times that parents in Virginia should not be a part of their children's public school education and should not take an active role and their educational rearing. McCullough lost the race because of those comments. And it had a sticky, stinky, sticky effect on other Democrats on the ticket. It should and it probably will. John Blair's comments, number two in the family.

Jerry, on the J. Jones issue, John Blair says. I am linking a story about South Carolina judge's home being destroyed by arson over the weekend. While we don't know the perpetrator or motive, it's another case of violence being directed towards a public official. Just think about what we've seen. Donald Trump has been shot. The Minnesota Speaker of the House assassinated. The governor's mansion in Pennsylvania sent on fire with the intent to burn the governor alive. Charlie Kirk assassinated

and now an effort to kill a judge in South Carolina in a little over a year. Here's a link to the story. John Blair offers those comments on my LinkedIn. Do we add to that list Allison Spillman's comments about a student body at Western Memorial High School in the Ku Klux

Klan? Do you think that's fair? I mean, I I... I... can't imagine what the parents of the Western Amar students who've been equated with the KKK must be

feeling right now. Yeah. Like if our kids were a part of that organization, my wife who is the most loyal mama bear, passionate mama bear, would do anything for her children. Anything for her boys in me. Anything. I can't imagine what my wife would do in regards to the Alice in Spillman stuff. I'm just... I'll leave it at that. Deep throats comments. I think the issue with Jay Jones is less about.

how horrible the comments were or whether he apologized and more with what it says about his emotional stability. He seems like a very emotionally dysregulated person. That's a problem for an attorney general who is charged with upholding the law in an even-handed way. Do you think someone so emotional can be at all objective or is he likely to use his powers to attack and harass ideological enemies using the powers of his office? Fantastic comment. Welcome back from your travels, Deep Throat. You make the program better. And he also adds something I was talking about this morning

with a heavy hitter on the phone prior to the show. Literally had these comments with the heavy hitter this morning, Deep Throat, a heavy hitter who you know, Holiday Drive is a great choice and a great move for the city, but I wonder what the Haven folks will do sort of destroys the case for the Haven being where it is, doesn't it? Remember, I've heard scuttlebutt, and I've passed that scuttle butt on this show that the team behind the Haven, and I'll call it Team, has been inflating the value of the Haven real estate to try to get an exit, you call an exit, whatever you want to call it, I'll leave you to determine that. and if that value of the haven for the exit is not met,

then that particular team and outfit will double and triple down in what they're doing in their downtown spot. Well, here's a good question. Will the new spot on holiday be providing the same in meals as the haven provides? I would say the new spot on holiday becomes more of a campus than a shelter. I would say the new spot on holiday takes all the positives that are in the shelters and the soup kitchens. Heck, even what the library is offering the houseless population? It definitely should, but we don't know that.

And remember, the city is going to allocate half a million dollars a year to a nonprofit or a for-profit group, nonprofit or for-profit group to manage this holiday drive position. If they can find them. If they could find them. Now, if that holiday drive position can find a for-profit organization or a nonprofit organization and they take the 500 grand from the city and then they're able to muster fundraising dollars from the business community, they're able to do fundraisers that solicit even more donations, and they're able to get state funding, maybe federal funding. The next thing you know, the operator of this holiday drive location could have a multi-million dollar influx of capital every year. and then either for-profit, non-profit, this starts becoming the base for a lot of salaries for people. A lot of people don't realize that the nonprofit sector, I have clients that are in the nonprofit sector where we're providing $2.95 an hour consultation services for them.

The executive directors of these nonprofits locally, some of these nonprofits are making a couple hundred thousand dollars a year, these executive directors in compensation. Just because it's a nonprofit doesn't mean the C-suite. of the nonprofit doesn't make money. One in particular, who I'm not going to utilize, I'm not going to name, this is a client. This particular executive director is just under $200,000

a year in total compensation. I'll close the program with this. It's been a good show. Judy Woodcar has done an excellent job. We'll highlight Conan Owen and Sir Speedy of Central Virginia, locally owned and operated Sir Speedy of Central Virginia and Conan Owen are who you call for any logo needs, any marketing needs.

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Conan Owen with some pointed comments. Thank you for those thoughts, Conan. I'll close with this. The University of Virginia just beat the Louisville football team on Saturday in Kentucky. It took overtime, but it's still a victory, nevertheless. And now Virginia finds itself at five-and-one overall atop the Atlantic Coast Conference standings and in the top 20 of the national rankings as they head into their by-week.

Tony Elliott has gone from outhouse to Pennhouse, ladies and gentlemen. And Virginia football has a clear path to the ACC championship. And if an upset happens in the ACC championship and Virginia wins, and no, I don't think Virginia is going to be favored to beat Miami, and right now it looks like a clash with the hurricanes in the ACC championship if they get there. But if they make the ACC championship, anything can happen. Anything can happen. Even if they lose to Miami and the ACC championship, you're talking a quality bowl game.

You're looking at a football team that very well, ladies and gentlemen, with this University of Virginia football team, could run the rest of its schedule. includes a Thanksgiving matchup with Virginia Tech. You have Washington State coming out of the bull week, out of the by week for homecoming that should put you at what? Six and one. Then you're at Chapel Hill in the South's oldest rivalry. You travel cross country to California. You host Wake Forest. You're at Durham against the Blue Devils. Then you host Virginia Tech. Currently, Virginia, according to ESPN, is favored in all those matchups, ladies and gentlemen, right now. What a story. What a ride.

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