The I Love CVille Show With Jerry Miller! - What CVille Job Sectors Could Face Layoffs?; Why Do Local Politicians Not Prioritize Local Hiring?

Episode Date: April 16, 2026

The I Love CVille Show headlines: What CVille Area Job Sectors Could Face Layoffs? Why Do Local Politicians Not Prioritize Local Hiring? Spanberger Gives $18M In Tax Breaks For Hubby’s Biz Common Ho...use Closed; Members/Events Screwed? What Caused Common House To Implode? Livery Stable On The Mall Closes Forever On 4/26 CVille Biotech Startup Creating 53 New Jobs Subscribe To JerryRatcliffe.com For $8 Per Month Read Viewer & Listener Comments Live On-Air The I Love CVille Show airs live Monday – Friday from 12:30 pm – 1:30 pm on The I Love CVille Network. Watch and listen to The I Love CVille Show on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, LinkedIn, iTunes, Apple Podcast, YouTube, Spotify, Fountain, Amazon Music, Audible, Rumble and iLoveCVille.com.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Rock and roll. Welcome to the I Love Sevo Show, guys. My name is Jerry Miller, and thank you kindly for joining us on a Thursday afternoon in downtown Charlottesville. Welcome to the water cooler of content and conversation. We encourage you, as we always do, to join us in the topic matter. Ask us questions. Push back on what we're saying.
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Starting point is 00:00:53 very humbly, very straightforwardly, and very factually. Our platform, the I Love Seville Network, reaches more people in central Virginia than any other brand in platform in the region, except for the University of Virginia. The numbers back it up. A lot we're going to cover on the show. Common House has closed. A private club in downtown Charlottesville
Starting point is 00:01:22 that has locations outside of the Commonwealth has now shut its doors in shocking, surprising, and swift fashion. An email went out yesterday, to members. Located on Market Street at the entrance quarter of the Charlottesville downtown mall, Commonwealth, Common House has had a decade of run. And now paying members who have paid initiation fees and membership fees are asking very frank questions. They are feeling jilted, if not stolen from. Furthermore, a number of events rehearsal dinners,
Starting point is 00:02:07 wedding functions, private parties are on the calendar and booked for common house this year. What happens to those security deposits? Will they make their way back to the respective parties? Even more shockingly
Starting point is 00:02:24 concerning, Tom Tom Festival, which I believe Judah is next week, right? Hmm. Tom Tom Festival, which I believe is the next week, Jude is confirming those dates for us. One of the most popular and momentum, positive momentum driving festivals for the city of Charlestville, downtown in particular, those dates? 22nd to the 26th of this month.
Starting point is 00:02:52 April 22nd to the 26th of this month. That would be next Wednesday through two Sundays. Next Wednesday through a week from this Sunday. April 22nd through the 26. Tom Tom had events scheduled for Common House. And these events start six days from now. This is a significant story. It appears to be a he said, she said,
Starting point is 00:03:22 with the operator of Common House, the business, offering one side, while the owner of the real estate offering a different perspective. What is the collateral damage of common house closing for Charlottesville and downtown Seaville? Speaking of closings, the livery stable. Liverie, livery? I would say livery. Judas says livery. I say livery. Judas is probably right. I'm probably wrong.
Starting point is 00:03:55 Cue Ginny Who to make fun of me for pronouncing words incorrectly. to air is human. Regardless, livery, livery stable closes Judah on what day? I believe it's the 26th. April 26th, ladies and gentlemen. Remember in January, we mentioned to you, January of this year, that we had a list of 12 established, noteworthy, significant brand-backed restaurants
Starting point is 00:04:25 that would be closing their door their doors in 2026. That list has expanded. We knew of the fall and collapse of Stefan Freeman a long, long time ago. A number of restaurants have closed. In fact, we have a list that we can relay to you, the viewers and listeners in the last 100 days. Body and Reed, Omacasa Obscura, Ace Biscuit and Barbecue, South Street Brewery, Milkman's Bar, tonic restaurant, El Repa Steakhouse, desa yuna con Gomez,
Starting point is 00:05:02 Boyd Tavern Market, which closes two days from now, and we're going to add the livery stable to the list. That's 10. Count them 10. Ladies and gentlemen, restaurants closed
Starting point is 00:05:17 in the last 100 days in Charlottesville. And now I'm Mara. county with eight of them within city limits. A lot we're going to cover on the broadcast. We're going to talk Abigail Spamberger. Lost in yesterday's headline, was it L3, Judah? L3 Harris. L3 Harris. Judah and I made a big to-do yesterday, a big to do about L3 Harris technologies. In Orange County technology, no, an Orange County firm that builds rockets, right? It was engines for rockets. is that what it was? Yep.
Starting point is 00:05:55 L3 Harris, Orange County, Virginia. They build engines for rockets. They, in the headline yesterday, announced a $1,270 million investment. That was an incredible story. Over a billion dollars invested in Orange County for a firm that builds engines for rockets. It's a Florida company. the sub headline the sub
Starting point is 00:06:26 sub story here perhaps we should have offered yesterday that is now making its way to us I want to give big ups to Jason Noble Jason Noble's photo on screen I'm going to give big ups to Spencer Pushard Spencer Pushard's photo on screen I hope Jason Noble is watching the program
Starting point is 00:06:42 I hope Spencer Pushard is watching the program ladies and gentlemen tax breaks a part of this deal courtesy of Abigail Spamberger to the tune of how much in tax abatement, Judah? You have it on the headlines. Just look at the screen. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:07:01 I'm not looking at the headlines. Okay. It's $18 million. $18 million from the Commonwealth of Virginia and Abigail Spamburger. Whoa. But how about this? Abigail Spamberger's husband works for this company as the lead software engineer. Judah's going to call this a nothing burger story.
Starting point is 00:07:20 I'm going to say this. The governor is making a big time splash and a sexy announcement about an Orange County Virginia firm that builds engines for rockets and a $1 billion plus investment in Orange County, Virginia. And as a wrinkle, a teeny little fine print, a teeny couple sentences of that press release from the governor's office is an $18 million tax break for this firm. 18 million. Hey, I thought $18 million was a lot of money. I guess for Judah Wickhauer, who's got a new closet of buttoned down shirts and he's looking, very sharp here.
Starting point is 00:07:52 $18 million is not that much money to him. Ladies and gentlemen, her husband works for this firm. In the press release, should we not acknowledge that my husband is the lead software engineer for this firm? Just to get ahead of the optics. Are you on a two-shot? Are we going to weave you to what kind of in the two-shot? Look at that new button-down shirt.
Starting point is 00:08:19 He wore a button-down shirt that was new. the other day. He's got a beard that's recently manicured. 18 million smack of roos is nothing for Judah Wickower ladies. He's single and ready to mingle. You think this is a nothing bird story, don't you?
Starting point is 00:08:35 Yeah. I don't think there's anything to it. I think that take a look at... You and I are so different. I love it. If he was the CEO or something... He's the lead software engineer
Starting point is 00:08:51 Holmes, it's a tech company. So what? The lead software engineer is a incredibly important position. It's a tech company. Until LLMs take his job. Oh, I thought, I thought Judah Wickhauer was arguing just a handful of weeks ago that lead software engineers were safe from artificial intelligence. He probably is.
Starting point is 00:09:13 Oh, is your tune changed? Oh, no. Oh, you got me. You got me. No, my tune is not. not changing. Yeah. Judah,
Starting point is 00:09:23 that was good. That was good. You don't think they should have announced in the press release, hey, my husband works for this firm? Yeah, it's fair to include, but I don't think, I don't think, you know, it's not like he's getting stock tips or anything like that. It's not like. It's not like he's working from this firm while sleeping next to the woman that's
Starting point is 00:09:44 signing off on the $18 million in tax abatement. It's not like he's married to the governor. it's not like he's working from this firm while living in the governor's mansion in Richmond. It's not like this is a conflict of interest or at the very least an optics issue for a governor that's under significant turmoil, significantly embattled in approval through the first 90 days of her term in office. That is the lowest it's been in Virginia since the mid-1990s. That's more than a generation.
Starting point is 00:10:21 Let's just add a little salt and pepper to that crock pot of crap. The governor is now stirring on the stove. Oh, my goodness. Man, this sounds spicier than the tacos my dad had last night. It's certainly not spicier than Justin Fairfax. Good Lord. You follow that story? I don't even want to talk about that one.
Starting point is 00:10:41 The ex-Lutinant Governor killed his wife, then whacked himself in the midst of a divorce battle. I don't know if you heard the worst of it. The kids were in the house, and one of them was the one that called 911. The son and daughter were in the house. Tragic. Allegedly, former lieutenant governor Justin Fairfax murders his wife in the basement of their home. I didn't know about the... Takes the gun, walks upstairs to their bedroom, kills himself,
Starting point is 00:11:13 and his son and daughter are in the house. The son calls 911. I don't know how old the kids are, but I don't think it really matters. They're going to be, that's horrible. You remember when Ralph Northrum was involved with the blackface scandal, ladies and gentlemen? Everyone remember Ralph Northrum in the blackface scandal and how the media, Republicans and Democrats were pushing for the lieutenant governor at the time, just at Fairfax, to assume Ralph's office because he should step aside. and then Justin Fairfax gets caught up in sexual assault allegations at the time, which caused his fall from grace.
Starting point is 00:11:58 Now the former lieutenant governor who was in a driver's seat to be the governor of Virginia, despite not winning the election, despite not running for the office, because his boss, Ralph, was in a blackface scandal. The same guy who has now been appointed by Abigail Spamberger to the Virginia, Virginia Military Institute Board of Directors because she wants the former governor, Ralph Northrum, to help VMI to be more diversity, equity, and inclusion. Explain to me, Abigail Spamberger, why appointing the 64-year-old white guy that has a history of blackface to the board of visitors at VMI with the whole purpose of driving DEI efforts at the Military Institute
Starting point is 00:12:46 was the right move. we should have led with that. I mean, that's a fun. You wonder Abigail Spamberger's approval ratings are in the crapper. She gives 18 million in tax breaks to a firm out of Orange County, monikers or brands the press release by saying, this firm is building rocket engines in orange. It's got a billion dollars plus an investment. It's creating jobs. And me as the governor of Virginia, I'm going to give them 18 million in tax. breaks because I believe in their mission. God, I hope no one knows that the guy I'm hooking up with, that's my husband that's sleeping in the bed next to me, that's wearing the totes with the rubber pads on the bottom of his socks right now every morning at 6 a.m. The one with the really stinky breath that I wake up next to, he's the lead engineer. I hope they don't know this. Abigail Spamberger, you go ahead and point Ralph Northrum to VMI for diversity, equity, and inclusion efforts, because that makes sense to get the guy that's got the blackface scandal
Starting point is 00:13:52 driving DEI at the Military Institute. A lot to cover on the program today. Any headline that I haven't covered in my monologue here? Jack of All Trades, Judah Wickhauer. And which one's most intriguing to you? I should start with that. Then we'll give some love to Stanley Martin Holmes. Viewers and listeners, if you like the show, hammer the like button.
Starting point is 00:14:13 We work hard for you. Hammer the like button, viewers and listeners. Maria Marshall Barnes says Morris is the most notorious or infamous surname in central Virginia. She says Morris. I think that's in my number two slot. I'm going to go Shifflet 1, Morris 2, Haney in the 3 slot. Logan Wells, Claylow, hello, Mark Hunt. Fantastic podcasting host Mark Hunt.
Starting point is 00:14:36 Life unedited, Mark Hunt, the host and star of that show. You are crushing it, Mark Hunt. I sincerely mean that. Which headline most intrigues you and why, Judah Wickhauer? I'm curious about the whole kerfuffle with commonhouse, especially considering it's almost exactly the middle of the month. Like, how does the common house just get cut off in the middle of the month? Let's just talk, here are the rumors that are percolating and circulating.
Starting point is 00:15:05 These are rumors right here that are percolating and circulating. You can read these on the interwebs. One of the rumors that's percolating and circulating that's been put into, the rumor mill by former planning commissioner Rory Stolzenberg on the interwebs is that the operator of common house was significantly behind on rent at its Market Street location, so behind on rent that the landlords are like, dude, I'm changing the effing locks here. You owe us boatloads of rent. It's past due. Now, here's what makes this plot so twisted. So that means that common house is not coming back.
Starting point is 00:15:45 Well, here's what makes the plot so twisted. Are you ready? Yeah. The landlords, the owners of the real estate, are the founders of commonhouse that got pushed out of common house by their investor group. The owners of the real estate are now different than the operators of the business. Because they got pushed out. Because they got pushed out. I mean, that sounds like some of the...
Starting point is 00:16:20 This is crazy! That sounds like some of the sweetest, sweetest revenge I've ever heard of. You, I mean, but is it? But the fact that the fact that the company stayed there thinking that, and then stopped paying rent? Oh, stop paying rent. They stopped paying rent because they have financial headwinds. Who in this economic climate is able to afford an amenities such as a culture and, and, and, and, and, and, community membership.
Starting point is 00:16:47 Let's cut to the chase. What does Common House really offer its membership? It's got some fancy chairs, some overpriced coffee, a bar that serves cocktails at expensive clips, has no workout equipment, it's got no swimming pools, it's got no squash courts,
Starting point is 00:17:04 no tennis courts. You forget the food and the DJ. It's got no amenities. I mean, seriously, what does this club really offer? Okay, when times are good, when the economy is good, when disposable income is flush, when you have dry powder,
Starting point is 00:17:20 when you're Scrooge McDucking and gold coins, you can afford an initiation fee in a monthly membership that is a couple of hundred bucks a month. But when times are tough and every cost in American history is at all-time highs or near-all-time highs, we're all experiencing it. I don't need to rattle off the list, gasoline, Donald Trump. I got a bet on that, though.
Starting point is 00:17:45 Conan Owen, I got to. got that bet with you. Groceries, credit card debt, rent, mortgage, everything, health care, health care, out-of-pocket everything. You're going to cut stuff. And what are you going to cut? Memberships tied to culture and community that offer when it's all said and done limited value proposition.
Starting point is 00:18:11 Clearly, the Charlottesville location did not have a. enough membership to meet its overhead. If the rumor, which is being perpetuated, that's the right word? Yeah, I guess. Perpetuated by former planning commissioner, O'Rory Stolzenberg, is true that they're significantly behind on rent. Okay. What makes the story so wild is you have a group of people that purchased a building
Starting point is 00:18:41 right next to Browns, lock and safe on Market Street. and they got this iconic building, they spent millions of dollars outfitting and retrofitting the building, millions of dollars on renovation of this old historic building. Then they spent hundreds of thousands of dollars, if not millions more on the kitchen, the bar, the furniture. Have you ever been in Common House? I have.
Starting point is 00:19:11 It is luxury. You've been in there? Yeah. It's luxurious. Yeah, it's a nice place, especially when they're playing some cool jazz. Oh, Kenny G. Smooth jazz? Not that kind of. I don't know if Kenny G.
Starting point is 00:19:26 John Tesh, if you may? Eh, really? I mean, are these your personal... Are these your personal favorites? I don't know. I have. My dad's a huge Kenny G fan. Some people may take offense at this, but they were playing...
Starting point is 00:19:44 When I was there, they were playing good. Good jazz. Oh, Judith's zinging the very well-permed Kenny G. right there with that one. But you would say it's extremely nice looking in there. Furniture? Yeah, that's wonderful. I'd love to be able to hang out in there. I would say if I had to put the over-under on building out common house, the initial founders
Starting point is 00:20:07 spent, I would bet, north of $3 million. Wow. And how are they connected to the other common houses? Is it just a franchise? Well, initially, when they started Common House, the market was hot. The economy was strong. Dry powder was flush.
Starting point is 00:20:26 And the Charlottesville location, Judah, hear me out. I'll give you a little storyline, viewers and listeners. Charlottesville was first. The Charlottesville location was first. And the pop, the proof of performance for Charlottesville, showed a reason to invest the impure. empirical data with the Charlottesville location suggested a proof of performance that had upside. It showed a pop that could be utilized to attract outside investment.
Starting point is 00:20:56 And that outside investment helped common house scale quickly. Highlight the locations, Richmond, Virginia. Yeah, Charlottesville's first in 2017. Then we've got Richmond, Virginia, Chattanooga, Tennessee, along with New Orleans, Louisiana. Are the other locations in trouble? I have no idea. Is that foreshadowing from yours truly? Or even five-shadowing.
Starting point is 00:21:23 We will let the cookie crumble if the other locations are in trouble. Hint, hint, foreshadowing. A topic for perhaps next week's show. But when you have success at the first location, you can start attracting investor money. But that investor money has strings attached to it. And those strings attached to the investor money has limited collateral. It says limited ways to enforce those payment thresholds, those waterfall, those milestone payments.
Starting point is 00:22:03 Basically, the ROI the investors expect when contributing any kind of money to some kind of, I mean, this is speculating. This is basically speculating what the investors did. And the scuttlebutt is the founders were pushed out of their own company. But remember, they owned the real estate. So as they were pushed out of their own... That's wild. As they were pushed out of their own company, the business was still operating in a building that was owned by the founders
Starting point is 00:22:30 that were jilted and divorced from something they birthed. Somebody someday is going to have to explain the... The small business is war. The thought process in the current... owners staying there. What do you mean? The thought process of the court. This was the thought process.
Starting point is 00:22:53 Can I tell you what the thought process is? This is basic business. Here's the thought process. You want to hear the thought process? Investor pool pushes out the founders from the Charlottesville location. There's an active lease. The lease conveys with the business.
Starting point is 00:23:10 So as long as the business was paying its rent on time, the jilted, angry, divorced founders could do nothing but take the mailbox money check on the first of the month. But when the check starts getting late, or when payment is past due and rent is missed, that's when the jilted, angry, divorced founders have a decision to make. Do we change the locks and evict the business? Initially, you're like, yeah, I get to stick it to them.
Starting point is 00:23:45 but then you realize that oh shit this location is only outfitted for a private club and who in their right mind in this kind of economy is going to take over this space and lease it maybe i should give them some patience and grace and see if they can make up the past due rent because when it's all said and done it's thousands and thousands of dollars every month that's coming in on the first or it's supposed to be. Once, and trust me, as someone who has 24 rental properties, yours truly, once you allow a tenant to get past due, once you allow a tenant to get past due on something,
Starting point is 00:24:28 next thing you know, you've created, what have you created right there? You've created, what's the old saying I'm looking for? The old saying, I don't know. It's not the Pandora's box opening the Pandora's box. It's something other saying that. applies to that. I don't know if I think about it, but you definitely,
Starting point is 00:24:48 they're definitely never getting caught up. They're going to do it again to you. Yeah. They're going to do it again to you. And they're going to do it again to you. And compounding it is in an economic climate that's effing brutal out there. Especially for a private club that offers
Starting point is 00:25:03 really, when you think about it, community and culture is its value proposition. It's not the coffee. Yeah. it's not the food right it's not the booze it's not even the jazz it's community and coffee it's community and culture yeah in community and culture subjective you know what trump's community and culture putting gas in your car baby groceries your rent and your mortgage i mean these were people
Starting point is 00:25:35 that are these people really the ones that are struggling though to come up with uh Dude, I'm telling you right now. I mean, these are people that could afford how much per month? You know this as well as I do. Our firm, we had one yesterday. Our firm is the confessional of Charlottesville, Albemar, and Central Virginia. Within this building, which we've owned for 12 years in August,
Starting point is 00:26:06 comes people of all walks of life. Black, white, Puerto Rish, or Haitian, Southern Baptist, Catholic, Jewish, atheist, Protestant, agnostic. Bahreith? The poor, the wealthy, the middle class, the no class, the too much class, the sandaled, the lowford, the Italian alligator wearing, shoe type. All walks of people. And everyone is saying the exact same stuff, whether you want it or not.
Starting point is 00:26:43 Whether you want to hear it or not, everyone is saying the exact same stuff about fragility and vulnerability around here. Yeah. When you got the folks that are in the private schools and you got the folks that are in upper management and the C-sweets saying it to you, imagine what the upper class or the upper middle class or the middle class is feeling. Oh, I know. Okay. So it's everybody right now. People don't want to hear it.
Starting point is 00:27:13 It's everybody. Lightning Fisher, 8177 on YouTube, loves the show. And she says, well, Abigail Spamberger knows Jerry now. How so? Because I was making fun of her husband's toots. I was talking about her husband's toots. You think, you think, uh, Mr. Spamberger, does Mr. Spamberger sleep with totes on? Toots?
Starting point is 00:27:41 You don't know what totes are? No. Judah. Toots magoats. I know what that is. The fantastic size. with the little rubber pads on the bottom of them so you could walk around in socks and not slip. They're not shoes, but you're not barefoot. You're wearing totes so you don't slip.
Starting point is 00:28:00 They're totes. Should we do an advertisement for toots? You've never heard of totes? I mean, it sounds familiar, but I've never heard them called totes. Can somebody give me a big ups for totes? Big ups for totes. Tots are the best, dog. Okay, dog.
Starting point is 00:28:20 Like and share the show, viewers and listeners. Like and share the show, viewers and listeners. Comments are coming in. TOTTS. T-O-T-E-S? T-O-T-E-S. Come on. That's horrible brand management.
Starting point is 00:28:34 Judah's, that is not horrible brand management. It is the worst brand management. Guess what I see when I look up totes. What? Definitely not sucks. Are we, is anyone watching this program shocked that Judah has never heard of the product, totes. Can I get an amen? Somebody's about to put in your feed that you're either spelling it wrong or you're calling it the wrong thing.
Starting point is 00:28:59 Toots! Okay, this one, I'm sorry, Judah and Ginny Who. I'm looking up toots. I'm confident I pronounce this correctly. U-Line Mighty Toots, Boat and Toots, Cotton Toots. And that's not Cotton Sock Toots. That's the handbag type. Toots.com, Jay Don. totes.com. This man shocks and surprises me every day. One day we find out he's never taken a photo with Santa Claus.
Starting point is 00:29:30 The other day we find out he's never eaten at Chick-fil-A. And now we found out that he thinks totes are the second coming of... The first thing that comes up on Toots website are umbrellas. Oh, man. This is the odd couple right here, and that's what makes the program. work. We'll give some love to Stanley Martin Holmes. Stanley Martin Holmes. Stanley Martin Holmes. You don't want to know about umbrellas? We love Stanley Martin Holmes. Jude, I have to read the partner copy, Jude. Stop looking at me. Stop, Judah. Embralla. I'm trying to look away, folks. I'm trying to look away,
Starting point is 00:30:17 Look away, Judah. Stanley Martin Holmes is dedicated to building homes that cater to each person's unique needs and lifestyles. Our high-quality single-family homes, townhomes, and condominiums are designed and constructed with innovative techniques that ensure exceptional efficiency and aesthetic appeal. They may even come with totes. Stanley Martin Holmes uses design features and technology to enhance your living experience in homes. Not just today, but for years to come. Stanley Martin Holmes trusted. Stanley Martin Holmes, communication.
Starting point is 00:30:55 Stanley Martin Holmes, Central Virginia, Charlottesville, Albemarle County, Green County, Louisiana, Louisiana County, a positive for our communities. John Blair, watching the program. Love John Blair. He says another one of those surnames, along with the shifflets and the Haney's and the Morse's. He says, how about Wood?
Starting point is 00:31:14 Wood was the surname of one of Almaro's first land. grant owners. It's also the name of the largest land owner in Almorel County today. That's Wendell Wood, ladies and gentlemen. He says, I don't think Wood is infamous, but rather famous and ubiquitous. I agree. Wood is United Land Company, and United Land Company and the Wood family are the largest, most significant landowners in Amarral County. Wendell Wood. At one time, there was a brew ha ha between wendell wood and dr charles hurt united land company and virginia land company dr charles hurt was virginia land company dr hurt told me one time while i was sitting in in a back booth after closing at jack and jills on high street that you could not enter or exit charlesville or almore county
Starting point is 00:32:15 without seeing real estate that he own through Virginia land company. Dr. Charles Hurd told me that. I was in my mid-20s negotiating a real estate purchase, unrepresented, just me, in the back booth of Jack and Jill's after closing. Zanice, the former owner of Jack and Jill's, fantastic Greek man who lived in Glenmore at the time, across from me on the booth, sitting shotgun with Zanis, Dr. Charles Hurt, his tie at half mask, he had a blue blazer on with gold buttons,
Starting point is 00:32:58 a mustard stain on his tie, a gold button that was coming undone and frayed. And we were passing a napkin back and forth with a Sharpie marker negotiating at the time a $350,000 or so dollar real estate purchase back and forth. We settled on a number, which I was going to buy from Zanice and seller finance capacity, about $35,000 down.
Starting point is 00:33:31 The remaining 90% was going to be financed over a five-year term at a fixed rate. And then Zanis said, now we celebrate. And he got, was it Uzo, the Greek liquor? A bottle of Uzo out, tiny little Dixie cups. We drank Uzo at Jack and Jills after closing while Zanis was smoking Greek cigarettes. I tried to be cool and smoke one of his Greek cigarettes to celebrate the closing,
Starting point is 00:34:01 took a puff with a cigarette in my left hand, the Dixie cup with the Uzo in my right hand, puffed a cigarette, and literally went, and blew all the smoke out. Sidney just started laughing at me. Oh, man. That deal eventually got kiboshed by one of his daughters, who had a minority interest in the real estate that we were negotiating, and she raised holy hell with her father,
Starting point is 00:34:29 and the deal never materialized. But in the end, it worked out to the positive because I didn't purchase that. I ended up buying in the Macklin building, and now I'm the largest owner in this building on Market Street. So it worked out well. Like and share the show. chair the show. Bill McChesney says the exact same thing that happened to the common house founders
Starting point is 00:34:52 happened to Hawes Spencer at the C-Vill Weekly. I know Hall Spencer well. In fact, Hawls and I are neighbors. He's a fantastic gentleman. Barbara Becker-Tilly says, come on, Judah. It's job stability in palm painting. What does that mean? I think she's talking about the Mr. Spamberger and the $18 million investment being an actual story that, and you try to marginalize it. Is that what you're talking, Barbara Becker-Tilly?
Starting point is 00:35:25 Give us some insight into why you're pushing back on Judah, Wickewer. When you said, come on, Judah. Palm painting. Barbara Becker-Tilly said that whole Mr. Spamberger, $18 million storyline is another F-U from the Queen of Virginia
Starting point is 00:35:41 to all of us Commonwealth voters. Wow. So she is burned, her bridges are burned on this. No doubt. Burn. Janice Boyst Trevillian, I thought totes go over your shoes in the rain. Tots don't go over your shoes in the rain. Patrick Bull says, Judah, come on.
Starting point is 00:36:03 You're not right here. I'm not right where? What happened with this, with your take on the, Mr. Spamberger? And he says, Patrick Bull, and is there any analysis with regards to R.O.I. on the 18 million? Just curious. Regardless of politics, it's a bad look. Patrick Bull, wasn't there some requirement? Then now he's talking about something else, sorry.
Starting point is 00:36:29 Big Ray and the Cool Counts is watching. He said, I've played at the Common House building. New Orleans Jazz, by the way. Jason Noble goes, not five-shadowing. Jason Noble, thanks for pinging me, the Spamberger link. Yeah, William McChesney says Our friend Laura Foner moved on From the job at Common House
Starting point is 00:36:53 Well, it's a good thing she did She's very nomadic She's now in Stanton, right? Zadadu Zidu Zidu? Zinaido? Not Zocalo.
Starting point is 00:37:07 No. Not Zeus. Zina Doa. Zyadona. Zibra? Zyna Doa. Zebra? Zina Doe.
Starting point is 00:37:15 Zeus? Zinoidoa. How many Z words can you come up with Zocalo? That's not a real word. Zocalo is. I know I'm joking. Zolklo. Zylophone.
Starting point is 00:37:31 Zylophone. Zanadoa. Actually, I think Xylophone starts with an X. You just lost. That starts with an X. You just lost winner. Winner, winter, chicken dinner. Did we bet a McCallon 12 on that?
Starting point is 00:37:40 I got one coming from Conan Owen. Oh, man. I can share the show viewers and listeners. will give some love to Charlottesville Sanitary Supply. 62 consecutive years of business, Charlottesville Sanitary Supply. Anything cleaning, sanitary, vacuum, or vacuum repair.
Starting point is 00:37:58 You pick up the phone, you call John Vermillion and Andrew Vermillion, or you visit them in person on East High Street, Charlottesville Sanitary Supply. 62 years, their family has lived in Almaro County for five generations. The business is three generations strong. Online at Charlesfelsanitary Supply.com, where they offer free, in-market delivery, you can buy things cleaning, sanitary, related that is cheaper than the
Starting point is 00:38:21 big box stores. And they have a sister company called Charlottesville Swimming Pool Company that you should contact first for anything swimming pool related, water testing, water cleaning, pool robots, pool shade, pool covers, in-ground pool construction, above-ground pool construction. They do it all. Charlestville Swimming Pool Company. Judah, job market. Which one?
Starting point is 00:38:44 Which job sectors are most, what's the headline for Seville? Make sure you put it on screen? I think I have an answer for this one. What Seville area job sectors could face layoffs? Professor. Professor. Pick me. Pick me.
Starting point is 00:39:10 Brown-noseder? Pick me. I've never been called a brown-noseder. Really? I'd be called a troublemaker. I was always the kid who sat in the back of the class. Always the troublemaker in the back of the class. Always.
Starting point is 00:39:25 I can believe it. Professor. What was the question again? What civil area job sectors could face layoffs? I'm going to say common house. Is that an entire sector? I'm going to say private clubs. Private clubs.
Starting point is 00:39:45 Livery stable? Liberty stable closing on April 26th Private clubs Food and beverage Restaurants, retail Right? Yeah When's the University of Virginia
Starting point is 00:40:00 Start closing some of these majors and laying some people off? How about the news that broke earlier today? I guess it broke yesterday. Hampshire College has announced that the college will be closing at the end of the year. Is that Hamshire? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:40:16 Is there a piece? in there? Chalk it up to pronounce Hampshire. Hampshire. Hampshire College. Since 2019, the college has been working to address financial headwinds, declining enrollment, rising costs, and unstable funding.
Starting point is 00:40:31 A financial stability plan was enacted, which included raising more than $55 million. This comes on the heels of the news in the New York Times yesterday, where Syracuse University, this is ridiculous. ridiculous. Syracuse University drops 84 majors, including classics, ceramics, in Italian.
Starting point is 00:40:58 When is the University of Virginia start chopping its basket weaving and clay making and liberal molding the next generation majors? I'm sincerely asked that question. Is the job sectors in Charlottesville that could be facing headwinds, some of these fluff majors that yield student debt and no actual return on investment? I mean, that's a lot of college, right? As most college. Yeah. As most college. In retrospect, I learn more at Walsingham Academy than I did in my four years in a classroom at the University of Virginia.
Starting point is 00:41:42 But I learned a boatload outside the classroom at the University of Virginia. as a professional gambler running a sports book, shooting pool, playing poker, doing other entrepreneurial things that were in the gray area. Mm-hmm. Quite a bit about supply and demand and quite a bit about how to build a business outside the classroom. Very little from the Lou Bloomfields, Larry Sabadoes, and Ken Elzingas. Now, that was because I showed up to college as an incredibly immature person that rather
Starting point is 00:42:16 rather than pursuing economics and government and philosophy education. I pursued parties and girls and staying up all night and getting after it. It also had to do with the fact that I was able to coast through elementary middle and high school and earn a 4-plus GPA with a 1480 SAT. So I thought I could do the same thing at the University of Virginia while, not going to class. I'm telling you right now, if you want to go, if you want to get the gentleman C at UVA, if you want the gentleman C at UVA, C is for degree, okay? You've got to go to class. You're not going to skip all your classes and get the gentleman's C. Okay, just being straightforward.
Starting point is 00:43:07 And I had this conversation here. This is a perfect headline segue into our next headline. The 53 new jobs from the Seville biotech firm. Can you give us the who, what, when, wear, why on that? Let's see. You got that in front of you. The jobs and the companies that are, look, you can make a convincing argument. You got that on screen, Judah? I'm going to make this convincing argument. Then you give me the who, what, when, or why of the 53 new jobs in this biotech firm.
Starting point is 00:43:35 I can make a convincing argument that the Almorale County economy, I'm specifically talking Almaro County economy, is thriving. I can make this convincing argument around biotechnology. Paul Manning Biotech Institute, AstraZeneca, the story that Judah's about to convey to you and pass along to you, new jobs, incremental tax revenue, folks that are assuming six-figure-plus jobs. I can make a very convincing argument that would secure an A-plus from any kind of professor that was moderating speech and debate or forensics, a club of that oak. But I can also make an extremely convincing argument that the economy is vulnerable and fragile for current Almoral counties. Because the companies that are replacing the businesses that are closing are companies that are not necessarily local to Charlottesville and Almoral in Central Virginia. They may be forming or establishing a headquarters here, but they're bringing in people from outside the area and not hiring from within our community.
Starting point is 00:44:43 and the people they bring in from outside the area are people that are going to gentrify and push out generations of people that have lived here. The people that are going to come in from outside the area to work for these companies that have no ties to the area, they're not going to prioritize keeping their money in the community. We started seeing this movement post-COVID. During the pandemic, when folks were able to work remotely as digital nomads,
Starting point is 00:45:13 all these Tom, Dick and Harry's, all these Jennifer, Cairns, and Carolines decided to move their families to Seville and Almoreal County because they wax nostalgic of four wonderful years at the University of Virginia. And they said, we have an opportunity for a reset here. Let's take our big dollar paycheck from an urban city environment where we're high dollar investors or financiers or hedge funds, hedge fund magnets, or, or, lawyers, and let's go back to Charlottesville where we had a great four years at the University of Virginia. And they set up shop working in their BVDs and their tidy whitties and their victorious secrets and their bathrobes and most certainly wearing totes. And when they were working from their basements and their ISP, they changed the landscape of Charlestville and Almaro County. And it was during COVID and coming out of the pandemic that we lost a lot of what Charlottesville was made to be
Starting point is 00:46:11 great. We lost that sense of shop local, stay local, keep your money in your community, go hard for local. And as more nomads, carpetbaggers, came to this community with their paychecks tied to firms and companies from outside the area,
Starting point is 00:46:26 it changed the nuance of Seaville. It made it less small town, institutional, generational, shop local, stay local, support local, and much more Amazon, one click, prime delivery, Walmart, and then you jump in.
Starting point is 00:46:47 And then the government says, oh, small businesses, you can't open. But Amazon and Target and Walmart, you can. And everyone needs to stay home. So you're going to get used to shopping at Amazon Target and Walmart. And not going to the small businesses because we're telling them to shut down. Stupid government, all to exploit an election. Prove me wrong. prove me wrong. Do you want an economy that's thriving, thriving based on nomads and carpet
Starting point is 00:47:16 baggers and six-figure salaries tied to businesses that have no responsibility to Charlottesville, Elmore, or Central Virginia? Or do you want an economy that's thriving that hires within its community has job opportunity associated with companies and small business that have been here for generations that are institutional? Because I know which one I'm going to pick. But do you? And that's the question. I think we're all complicit in the, at least the,
Starting point is 00:47:48 the Amazon part of that equation. And that wasn't just COVID. I'm not a prime member. And that wasn't just COVID. And that wasn't just. I'm not a prime member. Not right now. I'm not a prime member.
Starting point is 00:48:09 Elizabeth Kerry Alvinian. She's never commented on the show. Elizabeth. Carrie Elvinian. She's got a comment. Wow. She says, I just quit common house in March. Then found out about the cutbacks on weekends and hours with minimal events.
Starting point is 00:48:27 It was a nice club to network and meet people moving in from out of state, but the price was high for what it was worth. No doubt. Elizabeth Petophile. I don't think that's how I said her last thing. How would you say P-E-T-O-F-I? Pudofi, pedofi. Elizabeth Potofi. Okay, it's Potofi, it's Potofi.
Starting point is 00:48:56 She says Crawfords and Colliers are two of the infamous names from this area. Patrick Bull says, Jerry, you are a troublemaker in class, and you are awesome. And he says, Charlottesville Sanitary Supply Rocks. No doubt. I, look, I clearly understand, and this is all seriousness, this show, is entertainment, education, and enlightenment. We try to have fun here while offering our commentary and analysis on the local news cycle. Okay. Pedofy. Pedofy. Okay. It'd be very straightforward. This is me taking the humor and the joking out of it. Oh. Me straightforward. I totally get
Starting point is 00:49:40 the argument from the Economic Development Office of Almaro County that attracting AstraZeneca for their world headquarters is the most significant. First, I said it was Rivana Station, Rivana Futures, the hundreds of acres that they purchased from Wendell Wood for like $50 million years ago. Donna Price, then an Almarl County supervisor, came on her show and said this will be the most significant economic development storyline in Almarl County history except for the University of Virginia's creation. Quite a statement from Donna Price. Now Almarl County, It's county executive Jeff Richardson, its supervisors. They talk about AstraZeneca and its world headquarters and 600 new jobs,
Starting point is 00:50:25 a starting salary of 125,000 starting, not average, and it only goes up from there. I get the economic development associated with the biotechnology Beltway that connects Merck in Augusta to Astrosenica and Almarl, to Eli Lilly and Guchlin with the Paul Manning Biotech Institute at Fontaine Research Park being the anchor because it's producing the human capital eventually to then fill these jobs.
Starting point is 00:51:01 I see it, I see the potential. But the collateral damage of this biotech beltway will be very straightforward is gentrification and displacement. Escalated cost of living and an amenity effect, when the area gets extremely wealthy, even more wealthy than it is now, and it's already very rich,
Starting point is 00:51:24 that is going to drive an amenity effect of businesses that sprout up to service the rich and their needs. And it's going to be a different supply chain of providers than we had pre-COVID where the community wasn't as wealthy, was much more local and much more nostalgic. that's going to happen. And I'd rather see an economy. I'm being straightforward.
Starting point is 00:51:50 I'd rather see an economy that thrives. An economy that kicks ass that's based on small business. A lot of small businesses having success that hire within the community, promote within the community, train from within the community, cultivate within the community. A lot of small businesses. Instead, we're going to see an economy that's thriving, that's more of a company town, a company town associated with biotechnology, AstraZeneca, and the University of Virginia,
Starting point is 00:52:31 and less small business, big business, publicly traded, profits over people, as opposed to the small business economy of 2019 where owners from time to time would bypass paying themselves so their staff gets the every two-week paycheck deposited into their account. My two cents. I want to give some love to a small business, Jerry Rackliff. Jerry Rackliff.com.
Starting point is 00:53:08 He's got a subscriber model. I'm a subscriber. You need to support this model viewers and listeners. Jerry Rackleff for 50-plus years has covered UVA sports. And he was unceremoniously about eight, nine years ago, laid off by the Daily Progress and Lee Enterprises. Maybe it was Buffett Media at the time, despite working there being a reporter for nearly 50 years at the time.
Starting point is 00:53:38 Profits over people, exactly what I was talking about. He knows one thing. sports journalism, went into business for himself, initially tried to do it with advertising banners, and that's tough sledding. Our firms working alongside him, shifting from an advertising model to a subscriber, a model, and a paywall. And for the price of a cup of coffee, $8,
Starting point is 00:54:02 you're going to get 20 to 25 stories a week that are UVA sports-related that you can't get anywhere else. Jerry Rackliff.com. You want small business to succeed. you support Charlottesville Sanitary Supply, Charlottesville Swimming Pool Company, Jerry rackliff.com. I got a 145 phone call with the developer, Judah. 145, that's in 14 minutes. Maria Marshall Barnes watching the program.
Starting point is 00:54:33 Philip Dowell, the mayor of Scottsville watching the program. Philip Dowell says one sector that will be hurt by AI are financial advisors. Now you can ask for a conservative portfolio via the AI apps. my own investing and use AI daily. You also have robo investing. Nick Pollack watching the program. Patrick Bull says, Jerry, you're absolutely spot on. Livery stable, have we talked about that? Right around the corner from Common House, the livery stable lower third on screen, if you could, please. Its last day is April 26. Liberty stable, maybe the divius of dive bars in the city. What would you say in the city is a dive year of a dive bar?
Starting point is 00:55:29 And I'm not throwing shade at livery stable. I love me a good dive bar. I love dive bars. My wife and I love dive bars. It's the best kind. Ian Dugger's done a hell of a job at Liberty Stable. Hell of a job. April 26th, it's the last day.
Starting point is 00:55:44 Is that in... Yes. In advance of the... Artful lodger, shopping center, tear down, replaced by a hotel. Yeah. Marriott, I believe. Actually, let me confirm that. I should know that. What hotel is Jeff Levine bringing to Charlottesville, the Manhattan developer? Ah, I knew it.
Starting point is 00:56:15 My mind is still trapped. Marriott. 218 West Market Street. Manhattan, New York City developer, Jeffrey Levine of heirloom development. is bringing Marriott to the site of the Artful Lodger and the livery stable. He sold the site to Cavalier Hospitality in September 2024. However, he's still involved in the project as a partner. Jeff Levine's the guy that built the multifamily apartment luxury apartment tower
Starting point is 00:56:50 next to University Tire on West Main Street across Republic Fish and Oyster, the site of the current Blue Moon Diner. Jeff Levine was also the guy that was going to build the apartment. apartment tower in place a violent crown where he wanted to build the tallest building in Charlottesville history that was going to be 18 stories tall on the downtown mall, 18 stories. It didn't make it past the red tape of Charlottesville City Hall. And Jeff Levine said, oh, you want more zone, you want more housing? You're trying to relax the zoning code to get more housing to start.
Starting point is 00:57:29 stabilized price point, but you won't let me a Manhattan, New York City developer to do what I want on the downtown mall. I call hypocrisy over here. All them housing activists that push for the NCO thought that housing was going to go in the Blue Ridge neighborhood in North Downtown and rugby and Greenbrier and Locus and the Tony parts of Belmont. Instead, all that luxury student housing is going to the historically marginalized communities. Like who told him? Like who told him, Judah? This is far from a humble brag. This is just straight up bringing braggadocious.
Starting point is 00:58:05 Who told him? You did. Okay. And we got the video to back it up. Now those same folks are saying, you can't put that house in here. Same folks saying, you can't put that house in here.
Starting point is 00:58:24 Can we change the zoning code? Let's change it again. It's not doing what we wanted to do. This is what happens when you listen to the Gilliken gang. Notice the Gilliken. gang's a little quiet right now. There's just letting the West Haven and the
Starting point is 00:58:39 the people that actually live in these communities do the fight now. I mean mother, hey. Got a whole corn you. Anything else we didn't cover today? Did you let them know the firm that was creating the 53 new jobs?
Starting point is 00:59:05 That firm is... The pollen is killing me. Really? My throat is so itchy. Agrosphere. Agrosphere. Let me guess. They try to use part of the word agriculture and their brand.
Starting point is 00:59:27 You know what? I'll give it on props. 53 new jobs for them. AGRI. Yeah, yeah. 53 new jobs. That's a positive. 53 new jobs.
Starting point is 00:59:35 Give us to who, what, when, where, why? Two UVA schoolmates. They've amassed more than 37 million in capital and from the state and from investors. and added 53 jobs to the local economy, and they're creating a basically an anti, kind of like a pest control for crops that smells like time, because it's made out of time. First commercially available product, Fun Time.
Starting point is 01:00:11 Launched last year and uses the antifungal properties of the time plant to protect apple, berry, and grape crops from things like gray mold, which can decimate a harvest. That's pretty dang cool. 53 new jobs. Yeah. I'm going to tell you something. Oh. What?
Starting point is 01:00:40 They'll next be turning their attention to developing eco-friendly insecticides. Hopefully they'll do something about our lantern fly. How about the stink bugs? Who's getting overwhelmed with stink bugs? Got stink bugs everywhere. I just grab a square. I got a square to spare. One square to spare.
Starting point is 01:01:03 I don't think stink bugs are nearly as destructive to our local biosphere. I kill all the stink bugs. I get a square because I got a square to spare. A square? A square to spare. Okay. You don't know who made square to spare famous? I didn't even know it was famous.
Starting point is 01:01:19 I have no clue what you're talking about. Elaine Benis. Elaine Benis? Yeah. Should I know who that is as well? Oh, my goodness. Elaine Benis. Oh, is that from a TV show?
Starting point is 01:01:35 Which one? Jerry Seinfeld. It's the only show that I know that hasn't Elaine. Elaine Benis. I didn't know her last name. Julia Louise Dreyfus. Are you pronouncing that right? Elaine Bennett. She had a square to spare. She had a square to spare. I got a square to spare and I crushed the stink bugs and I roll up the square. I hear their bodies crack. And then I ball them up. The last square of toilet paper?
Starting point is 01:02:02 Toilet paper is in squares, Judah. Yeah. She was in a bathroom and while sitting on the potty, there was no toilet paper and the toilet paper and the toilet roll. And she asked someone in the stall next to her, can I borrow some toilet paper? And the lady in the stall next to her. And the lady in the stall next to her. And the lady in the stall next to, to her said, I don't have any toilet paper. And she said to the lady, what? You don't have a square to spare? Not a square to spare. You can't spare a square? Not a square to spare. The show that was about nothing. Literally said it. Generationaly iconic. Thursday night television, Friends and Seinfeld, appointment TV on Thursday evenings. You know, I learned recently that Seinfeld went out the way he wanted to go out. Of course. He had an opportunity to come back and do another season. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:51 And they were willing to... They were just going to throw money at him. They were willing to back up a Brinks truck to Jerry Seinfeld. Now, at that point, Larry David, his co-creator, had already said, I'm done doing the show. And Jerry Seinfeld had so much effing money. No doubt that he was able to start dating what? A 17-year-old as a grown-ass man. Because somehow that was legal.
Starting point is 01:03:17 If Jerry Seinfeld in 2026 was slapping skins with the 17-year-old in 2026, he'd be in the slammer. Now you know why I... But in the 1990s, it was, oh, Jerry Seinfeld. They must have something in common. Jerry Seinfeld. It must be loved. It's Jerry Seinfeld. Imagine if that happened in 2026.
Starting point is 01:03:42 Oh, come on. Seriously. Imagine if that happened in 2026. They would have Jeffrey Epstein him. Yeah, yeah, maybe. You don't think so? It depends on the person. Some people get a pass for, you know, whatever reason.
Starting point is 01:03:59 It's selective outrage. A 30, mid-30s man dating a 17-year-old in 2026. If you think that's not happening somewhere in the U.S. right now, let me show you this bridge. The current gastropub, Juan Sarmanto, is called, Maggie's on Midtown. The old Blue Moon Diner is Maggie's on Midtown to answer your question. Every viewer and listener that's watching
Starting point is 01:04:26 the question knows. Knows. Curtis Shaver, the Dirty Nellie's crowd is going to have something to say about calling Livery the dive bar of Seville. 100%. That's the only dive bar in Charlottesville that could contend with livery, livery, library stable, with top dive bar recognition
Starting point is 01:04:45 or moniker. Which one? The two divious bars in Charlottesville City are dirty. And we use dive bar in the most positive terms possible. I pursue dive bars. That's the bar I want. I want all the bars to be dive bars. I want all the bars to be dive bars.
Starting point is 01:05:00 It's definitely not a put-down. This is a positive. But it's between livery, livery, did you figure out what it was? I think you were right. It's livery. I was right. Ginny who? I pronounced it right. Livery stable and dirty now is the two diviest bars and city
Starting point is 01:05:16 limits. Is lazy paired in the food line shopping center on Pantom? in Almore County. It's on the other side of Free Bridge, so I think that makes it Almaro County the Lazy Parrot. I don't think even if it was in Charlottet's Fitwere. Oh, Lazy Perrin, a little divey dog. Lazy Perrin is a little divey. A little little diving. Not with that patio. Not with that patio. The patio makes it not divey? Yeah. I mean, the patio is deluxe. It's not dark enough. It's not dingy enough. All right, I'll give you this. I'll give you this. I agree with you. easy enough. But Lazy Parrot 1.0 in the food buying shopping center.
Starting point is 01:05:54 Lazy Parrot 1.0 where you could smoke inside. That was close. That was the daiviest bar in Charleston. It was too yellow to be a dive bar though. That was so diving. That's where I met Curtis Shaver. That's where I meant over a Jaeger, over $2 Yeager shots. Wow. That's where we met. Never see that again. I know. Judah Wickhauer is alone in the corner at the Lazy Parrot with an iPad and a stylist doing graphic design while chain smoking camel lights with a bucket of coronas in front of him. I'm going to the bathroom while hosting, this was like 18 years ago. I Love Seville Trivia.
Starting point is 01:06:35 MCing I Love Seville trivia as I'm trying to get name recognition and brand recognition for my company, I Love Seville. Were you there at the time that I got attacked by a guy with a, what do you call it, a crutch? Yeah, it's my friend Ryan Hubbard. I saw him three or four days ago. Ryan Hubbard did not attack you. That was hilarious. Yes, he did. No, that I literally saw him three or four days ago. It does not have a crutch. He doesn't? He has two crutches. He's missing part of his leg. I know. And you wanted to attack him. I did not want to attack him. I'm the last person that would ever attack a person. You guys almost got in a brawling brew, ha-ha, and the smoking side of.
Starting point is 01:07:20 lazy parrot bathrooms where the cameras don't shoot or shine on. I heard about that. He knocked the iPad out of my hand when my back was turned to him and you're saying I was trying to attack him. Why did you say or do to make Ryan a calm person who I've known for 20 years as well and I'm not picking sides because I like you both to knock the iPad out of your hands at smoking lazy parrot where the cameras were not. shooting video at. The only spot you could have a brew ha-ha in smoking, lazy parrot, and Jill and Dallas wouldn't see you.
Starting point is 01:07:59 That's not true. That is the only one in smoking in 1.0. This is before he expanded. I'm not talking about that part. I'm talking about the fact that we were in the middle of the, we were in the middle of the floor. I came out of the bathroom. He's like, this guy is like spitting mad.
Starting point is 01:08:17 And I'm just like, whatever. I said something to that effect, like whatever, and I walked away from him. And next thing I know, the iPad goes flying out of my hand. Did it break? No, I had a case for it. Okay. I mean, it was fortunate that it didn't break. But, and then, and then people start like trying to hold us back. And I'm like, what are you doing? I'm like leaning over to pick up my iPad. Like I'm going to fight this guy. I was definitely there.
Starting point is 01:08:55 I was told about it because I knew both you guys. And I was like, what is going on here? Yeah, he followed me. I'm just heading back to my table. He follows me, knocks the iPad out of my hand. I turn around. I'm like, what the heck is going on? And people are like trying to hold this guy back.
Starting point is 01:09:12 And I just leaned over and picked up the iPad and went and sat down. I don't I don't understand people's inability to step away from from bucking up chest puffing up yeah you know what it's called stupidity
Starting point is 01:09:34 alcohol being drunk $2 dollar Yeager night I've never started fights with people just because I was I say this on the program at least twice a month you are the gold standard of humanity. That's not true.
Starting point is 01:09:51 It is true. You rarely, if ever, lose your temper. In fact, you've worked here for 16 years. I think I've seen you lose your temper twice, and you've had many reason to lose your temper. I mean, look at who I am. Okay? He's choosing his words carefully.
Starting point is 01:10:08 You're the same person every day, metronome of consistency. You're kind, patient, you're the gold standard of humanity. Well, thank you. I sincerely mean that. I sincerely mean that. I think the viewers and listeners know I sincerely.
Starting point is 01:10:27 I think you know I sincerely mean that. There's so many qualities that you have that I wish I have. Now, there's some qualities that you don't have that I wish you had, though. I know. Lonnie Murray watching the program. We'll wind down the program. We went long today because we went short yesterday. that's what she said.
Starting point is 01:10:48 One of the most valuable aspects of college is the emphasis on critical thinking, Lonnie Murray says. Amen. I also think the electives can be more valuable than whatever major you choose. That was certainly true for me. It wasn't my degree in English, but the electives I took in computer science that made all the difference for me. That's the downside of trade schools.
Starting point is 01:11:08 Remember all the ads for TV and VCR repair? What do you suppose those people are doing now? the big challenge for high school graduates now is how to choose a major when any given career may not even exist in four years. Yeah, exactly. Being adaptable is key. Any university doing its job should provide a broad spectrum of skills to adapt to a rapidly changing career market.
Starting point is 01:11:32 100%. You know how many times that 18 years of this firm, our firm has had to pivot in some capacity? I mean, so many times. Wouldn't you say? Yeah. If you are not, if you're in business for yourself, you're going to have a few of the same things that you're going to have to do every day if you're in business for yourself. Anyone who owns a business better be able to sell. If you can't sell, you're not going to be in business for a long. Anyone who owns a business better be able to adapt and pivot and do so quickly because if you can't do that, you're not going to be in business for long.
Starting point is 01:12:16 anyone who owns a business better be able to see a few steps ahead. If you can't see a few steps ahead, don't go on a business for yourself. Anyone who owns a business better be risk-adverse, courageous, and willing to go balls to the wall on a number of things. You mean better not be risk-averse. Better not be, what I say, risk-averse? They better not be risk-adverse. You're going to be taking risk every single day. 18 years of doing this, waking up every day and figuring out how to be.
Starting point is 01:12:46 to make money, two or three times over those 18 years, the entire house of cards could collapse, but I hedge my bets and made a decision based on instinct, data, and evidence, and it went my way. Now, crushing.
Starting point is 01:13:09 That is... Goodness, that's a long... Oh, I got a... Are you supposed to remind me about by 1.45 call with the developer. It's 148 p.m. I was supposed to remind you. That's the I Love Seville show. Goodbye. And a call developer. Judah Wincower and Jerry Miller.

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