The I Love CVille Show With Jerry Miller! - Will UVA BOV Ignore Sen Creigh Deeds Investigation?; This Worst Position UVA BOV Has Ever Been In?

Episode Date: August 15, 2025

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Welcome to the Friday edition of the I Love Seville Show. My name is Jerry Miller. Thank you kindly for joining us. And boy, oh boy, do we have a lot to cover. My phone is buzzing with people just reading the headlines and setting us information on what's going on. In our fine and fair community, I have their permission like I always do to relay it to you. I always ask before I pass along information here, whether I can relay it to you or not.

And that's how we get the scoops and the details and deal flow that we do. Like and share the show, viewers and listeners, help us spread the gospel. We work hard for you. The only thing we ask in return is you like and share the show. And if you feel so inclined, comment on the program. Philip Dow and Scottsville, thank you kindly for joining us. We appreciate you watching the program. A lot I want to cover on the program.

I want to ask you, the viewer, and listener to this question. The UVA Board of Visitors. its current state, is it currently in its most difficult position in the history of the school? Today is the August 15th deadline where state senator Cree deeds has posed 46 questions to the rector and vice rector and said, you need to give me answers on these 46 questions by close of business today. Then, after we outed, some of Cree Deeds' strategy on the Monday edition of the I Love Seville Show, he spoke less than 48 hours later to the Daily Progress

and highlighted exactly what we said on Monday and even confirmed with the reporter at The Daily Progress that he's working in cahoots with previous board members and folks extremely close to the C-suite of the University of Virginia when asking the questions he did, 46 of that. them of the rector and vice rector. The current board members, one of the most prestigious positions in all of the Commonwealth of Virginia, are they in the most unattainable, unwelcome, headwind facing, challenge facing position that a UVA BOV has ever been in?

Judah Wick Cower and I will take both sides of that argument and ask you, the viewer and listener, your opinion on who is right. Also on today's program, I want to talk about, ladies and gentlemen, a new policy that's going to hit Charlottesville City Council, policy that will be on the dais and up for consideration in September. This policy will afford Charlottesville the opportunity, the luxury, the accountability, the willingness to take the position, the possessions of the houseless and homeless who are potentially camping, living, and areas that the city does not with the houseless or homeless to live within. So if the houses or homeless are living on the downtown mall, and Charlottesville, and City Hall, and City Council has the idea that they want

to clean up downtown Charlottesville, the most important eight blocks in a roughly 300,000-person region city hall city council the city manager may actually confiscate the possessions of the homeless living downtown as a determined for them living in these storefronts in these facades and these is the word vestibules sure in these vestibules we'll talk about that today that is such a significant story And I'm going to ask you, the viewer and listener, if Natalie Olshan, Michael Payne, Brian Pinkston, Juan Diego Wayne, and Lloyd Snook have the balls to confiscate the possessions of the homeless and houseless in our community to clean up the streets of Charlottesville, that's a topic that is so dynamic and we'll unpack it on today's show. We'll talk Toby's pawn shop on Pantops.

Toby's, we learned this from Conan Owen, is consolidating on Ryo Road. Toby is a fantastic entrepreneur and businessman. He purchased real estate on Ryo Road, and he's going to make a super magical pawn experience on Ryo. And as a result of this real estate purchase, as a result of this consolidation, Toby has decided to forego his position on Pantops. And now, ladies and gentlemen, the toby's on pantops, the former Hardee's restaurant, a place at one time where you can get delicious bacon, egg, and cheese biscuits, a place at one time where you would question the sanitary and cleanliness of a fast food restaurant, but still found yourself ordering Carl's Jr., bacon, egg, and cheese biscuits from Hardee's through drive-thru is for lease.

Toby's out on Pantops, now available at 11,000. thousand dollars per month roughly we'll talk about that on today's show i also want to highlight on market street that institutional business brown's lock and safe the building is for sale as i learned from william mchesney brown's lock and safe is now appointment only a curious business model when you're in the uh keying and lock and safe business to be appointment early but the location the headquarters on Market Street is for sale. I've been in that building recently. Judah has been in that building recently. To say that building needs TLC is a complete understatement. Would you agree with that, Judah? Yeah, I mean, you know, it's not like... Are you on the camera? No. I would say that

building is borderline a tear down, but there's a bigger story to it. I'm not trying to throw shade on the building. It's not like the HVAC is super working, if at all. There's clearly been leaks all throughout that flat roof and the upkeep of that building for an extended period of time has been forgotten, neglected. Judith was about to make the point. They were carving keys for people and basically using it as a check-in point for the guys that were going to go do work around Charlottesville, not moral county, so it did not have to be Class A. They've also been there for how many decades? Forever. So they didn't need it to be picture perfect. Yeah. I mean, if the AC works. One shot me here, and then I'll come back to you.

The real story is this. Brown's Lock and Safe building is for sale. That building is for sale right next to the Artful Lodger, Library Stable, Lively Stable, Poster Studio Shopping Center. That shopping center is part of the Jeff Levine project of building a Hilton family hotel in that spot. So if Jeff Levine is pursuing a hotel in the place currently, and he is, where the artful lodger, the livery stable, where Posture Studio is located, he's building a hotel there, why would Jeff Levine not just purchase the Brown's Lock and Safe building next door and start doing some assemblage to build an even sexier, bigger, and more profitable hotel on the entry point of the downtown mall? I want to talk about that today, ladies and gentlemen. We have some data, courtesy of Real Talk with Keith Smith, through August 15th of this year, year-to-date, 1,100 homes sold in the Charlottesville Area of Association of Realtors' Footprint. We'll break down those numbers on the program. Some of this data surprised me, and I follow it very closely.

I want to remind the viewers and listeners that Professor Letty Klotz will join us on the program on Tuesday. This is the UVA professor that's the author of, is it subtract? The book subtract. This book and Professor Letty Klotz is part of the foundation of a piece of commentary on this show that has caused the ire and the disdain of many of you viewers and listeners. And I am comfortable stating on this hill and I am comfortable accepting the ire and disdain of you when I make this comment. We are now in a 60-hour workweek community, Charlottesville. It's no longer a 40-hour work week. Housing, the median value of housing, if you want to purchase, higher than ever, $475,000.

Median family household income, according to HUD, 125,800. Ladies and gentlemen, it's never been more expensive to buy a house. It's never been more expensive to live and have quality. of life. It's never been more expensive to step outside and walk up and down Charlottesville, Alamore County, in Central Virginia than it is right now. That's why I think it's a 60-hour work week. When I make that comment, you guys cringe. Judah Wickhauer right now is furious and fuming and wants to rip my head off over here. We'll talk about that with Flooddy Clots on Tuesday, August 19th on the I Love Seville Show. I want to remind you the viewer and listener, if you need office space,

anywhere in central Virginia, send me a DM, send me an email, send me a phone call. We have plenty of it, and we can connect you from the $350 a month price point all the way up to $2,500, $3,000 a month, whatever your budget should entail. I also want to highlight Charlottesville Sanitary Supply, friends of the program, partners of the show. John Vermillion and the Vermillion and the Vermillion family are five generations strong in Almaro County and their business, Charlottesville Sanitary Supply, locally owned and operated, and three generations strong. Online at Charlottesville Sanitary Supply.com, fantastic website, if I do say so, myself, and located physically with a brick and mortar on East High Street, Charlottesville Sanitary

Supply, this business keeping the Miller family swimming pool crystal clear blue. Let's welcome the distinguish, the dapper, the only man that I know that can wear an undershirt, a bunned-down shirt, denim pants, and hijacked gargoyle socks to his kneecaps in 100-degree heat while not sweating an iota of perspiration on his forehead or on his temples. Cooler than the other side of the pillow. I mean, everybody keeps their business at 100 degrees, right? Judah Wickhauer, ladies and gentlemen, as the late-great Stuart Scott said, cooler than the other side of the pillow.

My friend, it's been a hell of a week of content, which headline today intrigues you the most? Or, better yet, scatter shooting with Judah Wickhauer, where would you like to begin? I mean, there's so much. The B-O-V, whether or not the city will enact a policy to help take the homeless off the downtown mall. It's, I think some good discussion is going to be had. Put the first headlight on screen. The UVA Board of Visitors. Do you want to set the stage of what we're going for with this topic?

Why don't you do that? I like how you and I are so different with our lens and our viewpoint. Set the stage, Judah, Wickear. Well, after President Ryan retired from his office at UVA. air quotes. Well, he did retire. Retire? Willingly or unwillingly?

Let me ask you this. If you unwillingly retire, is that retiring? No. If you unwillingly retire, what's that called? It's called getting fired. Forced out. Okay, go ahead. He just moved out of Cars Hill.

He posted on his Facebook page that he just moved out of Cars Hill, and you can tell him the commentary on Facebook of him moving out of Cars Hill. He acknowledged that he's been off social media for a while as he did in an emotional reset. And in his commentary of moving out of the President's Mansion, he laments moving out because of all the special memories he and his family have experienced on Cars Hill and the President's Mansion. Go ahead, Judah. I rudely interrupted as I so do many times. What was that, Judah? I just joke. No comment. We'll see if there's no comment coming from the Board of Visitors soon.

So apparently Cree Deeds has been in discussion with some people who clearly have a... I know who those people are. An inside track. You know who those people are. Oh, I do. Okay. And in response to the knowledge he's gained, he is, as you mentioned earlier, sent a of 46 questions to the rector and vice rector, who were not in those positions at the time

of President Ryan's dismissal, retirement. And they seem to be in a can't win no matter what situation as far as I can tell. as far as I can tell, because as the news has been reporting, if they don't reply, or this may have come from our... This is directly from our source, which force creedes to speak to the media. And that says, that side of it says that if they don't respond, they could be removed due to...

malfeasance or non-feasance. However, if they do respond and are found to have been complicit in President Ryan's retirement, or if they are found to have not done enough to prevent his retirement. Or if they were found to backroom dealing or working in cahoots with the DOJ or anyone with, within, or around the Trump administration, on behalf of or to encourage Jim Ryan's retirement. Well, that would include being found to be complicit in his retirement. That would be reason for... For their dismissal due to either malfeasance or non-feasants or both.

They are effed. Why would you stay in that position? They are effed. Is it for the money? Is it for the clout? It's definitely not for the money, dude. They are effed. Rachel Sheridan and Porter Wilkinson are in.

In a, how would you describe this situation? They're standing on a tiny little platform that you can only stand on with one foot, and on each side is a meat grinder. Ready to chew you up. They are walking a plank on a pirate ship, a plank that is so rotted from seawater and inclement weather that every step Rachel Sheridan and Porter Wilkinson takes on this plank over a shark-infested ocean is a step that will lead the plank to crack in their bodies to fall and tumble

into a sea of great white sharks. To say this situation is untenable, is an understatement. And today, at close of business, is a deadline. state Senator Creed Eats has issued for Sheridan the rector and Wilkinson, the vice rector, to offer insight to 46 questions, questions that Senator Creed Eads has authored in conjunction with previous board members and those very close to Jim Ryan and people in the know at the University of Virginia. He has put a roadmap so littered with landmines that even if you tip-y-toe in ballerita shoes

through this land-filled dangerous I think the only out and I think if Creediz already has if not the exact answers at least the idea of what the answers would be the only out credence does the answers to all these questions yeah and so the only out would be

if they had absolutely no knowledge of what led up to President Ryan retiring the only since he's asking these questions I doubt that's the case right the only reasonable or plausible

path at this point is for Sheridan and Wilkinson to say our attorneys have counseled us not to comment. And I think they've pretty much said that. That's all they're doing.

Our attorneys have counseled us not to comment. Wild time. Today's the deadline and there's approximately four hours and six minutes left for Sheridan and Wilkinson to respond to

46 questions from State Senator Creed Deans, who is like a dog with a bone and will not back down from this. Oh, definitely not. I think the odds of Jim Ryan potentially being reappointed to President of the University of Virginia are realistic. I'm not saying it's

greater than 50%, but it's certainly plausible and possible. I think Abigail Spanberger is going to nuclear bomb this board, and that leads us to the next headline that you should put on screen. Headline number two,

is this the most damning position, the most frustrating position, the most aggravating position, the most aggravating position, the least welcoming position that any UVA Board of Visitor, individual, or team, has been in the history of the university. I think so. You say yes. Yeah. With the case of, who was it, Dragus and...

Helen Dragus, the Virginia Beach developer, who was once the rector of the UVA board, who tried to do a backroom coup to oust Terry Sullivan over the university's move to digital classrooms and digital curriculum, Coursera. She got Sullivan Alston, then Dragas was castrated of power when faculty unified and said,

no, we won't teach unless Terry Sullivan is reinstated and then we realize who had the true power, the faculty, not the Board of Visitors, and then Terry Sullivan goes back to Carr's Hill. Go ahead. In that case, there was a choice and they made it.

They reinstated Sullivan. What's the choice here? I mean, the choice is the faculty does the same thing and gets Jim Ryan reinstated. But he wasn't fired. Was he not fired, Juno?

Okay. Did he resign under his own accord? Okay, but it wasn't, whatever the case, it wasn't the Board of Visitors that forced him to resign. They may have done backroom dealing. They may have talked to Trump or his administration. The DOJ attorney ties to the UVA law school, multiple DOJ attorneys tied to UVA law school,

graduates of the UVA law school. What's your point? There's just connections, everywhere here. Oh, I know. But the fact of the matter is that whoever the director and vice director were in contact with are most

likely higher up than they are. And I don't believe the decision was theirs. No, this is Glenn Yonkins. This might even be higher than Glenn Yonkins. This could go as high as Donald Trump. This could literally go as high as Donald Trump. Right. So that that leads me to the question if you what supposedly force the board of visitors to reinstate

President Ryan doesn't that bring all this back to right where we started and the reason why ostensibly President Ryan stepped down because he didn't want the school to be affected by the federal funding cuts yeah great point if Spamberger wins the governor mansion, and she's looking like a clear-cut favorite to win, am I right? Yeah. Clear-cut favorite to win. Do you think she nuclear bombs this board? Potentially, but that still

doesn't change the fact of Well, bear with me. So you say potentially. So you lean yes? I mean, I don't know what power. Can the governor just... Yes. Malficence is up, is a basis, is on the table. Just like it was with Bertels.

Okay, but are we really talking about wiping the entire board? Just need majority. Don't have to be an entire wipe. Just need majority. Majority appointment. Potentially she could do that, right? Bird Ellis, President, Glenn Yonkin.

Potentially, I guess. At that point, if majority reinstates Jim Ryan, the conundrum you have is Donald Trump says you're not going to get this $300 to $400 million UVA. They have a yearly budget of over $5 billion. so we're talking like 6, 7, 7, 8%. Then Spamberger is going to have to meet with the heavy hitters

and Jim Ryan and say we're going to have to fundraise this $300 to $400 to $400,000 to make up for the budget shortfall. And if the campaign is Trump's not giving us $300 to $400 million in federal funding, when we need your help, they would get more than $300 to $400 million

in federal funding. I'm sure they would. And immediately. Jim Ryan in that scenario is a man who can take the loaves and the fishes and feeds the thousands and he can do it while walking on water and he can do it while Mary Magdalene is watching his feet and he can do it while losing his temper and the temple because folks were gambling and selling things with gold, buying things with gold coins. Is that because his stepping down and placing himself

How do I put this? And martyrdom? Him martyering his position for the school has given him so much clout influence, so much bulletproof vests, credit, Teflon Don, that all past, transgressions will be forgiven? But yeah. Yes, exactly right. He gets a clean slate.

And could, if he considers it this way, and Jim, I hope. you're watching. Could, if he thinks about it this way, rewrite his legacy as if he's flux capaciting into DeLorean to the first day he started in office, rewriting his legacy without the sports almanac. I hope we don't see him driving down Main Street going 88 miles per hour. Without Biff World and Emmett Brown and Einstein the dog. What a story. Today's the deadline.

We'll get off topic. We'll close this topic with this. Do Sheridan and Wilkinson offer answers to Creed Deeds' 46 questions by close the business today. Man. I'm guessing they probably will,

but I just can't. You say yes, I just can't get the image out of my mind of them going home to their families and being like, I can't do that right now. I've got homework from Senator Greed. They're going to say our attorneys have told us not to comment. Take home test. That's it. That's all they're going to say. And that may be enough. That may be enough for malfeasance when Spamberger wins.

Crazy. Crazy. Oh, wow, Jim Ryan is on sabbatical for a 14-month period at his $1 million-plus presidential compensation. Yeah. I say, plus, plus. Plus, plus.

There's some extras in there, too. Bill McChesley, does Jim Ryan want to jump back into the firestorm? It seems he has a pretty sweet golden handshake. Would you jump into a firestorm? Bill McChesney, you have all the money, you have

the money, you have the connections, you have the resources. But the one thing you're missing if you're Jim Ryan, his legacy. His legacy currently is clouded. He is an opportunity to rewrite his legacy and go down in the history of the University of Virginia and in the history books of UVA as a reappointed president that went toe to toe with the most powerful man in the world, an effing one. He could go toe to toe with the most powerful man in the world, Jim Ryan. and win. How many, Elon Muston do that?

Putin's not going to do that. Is the Ukraine president going to do that? Is Jerome Powell going to do that? Jimbo Ryan did. Maybe. Next headline, what do you got? New city policy. All right.

I want to spend four to five minutes on this. The chitter chatter we're hearing, and that chitter chatter is proven to be very accurate on this talk show, is five city counselors, Juan Diego A, Brian Pinkston, the mayor and vice mayor, Natalie O'Sherin, and Michael Payne, and Lloydsinoch. Judah Wickhauer thinks Natalie O'Sheron is going to be named the mayor in January. I think it's going to be Michael Payne. The more I think about this bet, the more I think Judah has a very good chance of winning. We have a bottle of scotch on the line, a 12-year-old bottle of McCallon on the line for this. I'm going pain, the paininator. You're going NatGBT, Natalie Orsherin. These five people in September, the chitter-chatter I'm hearing,

have a piece of leverage to clean up downtown Charlottesville. And the leverage they have is called policy. And the policy that they can approve vote yes or no is, hey, you want to sleep on the downtown mall? That's fine. You want to sleep on the benches and the vestibules. You want to crap your pants next to the old Bank of America? You want to vomit and pee all over the storefronts of the downtown mall?

That's fine. You want to drive business away from the most important eight blocks in Charlottesville as if it was scurvy or the bubonic plague, that's fine. But we have the opportunity to take your possessions. We could take your possessions as a determinant for you sleeping and patronizing the downtown mall. Ladies and gentlemen, if that policy gets in front of counsel, what does counsel do?

Judah Wickhauer, we have that headline on screen? You're a good man. What does policy do? What does counsel do? Harold Hertz, y'all are so great to listen to. Keep on doing it. Thank you, Harold Hertz. We've got print, radio, and television watching the program.

And I count at least seven elected officials watching the show right now. What does the downtown mall do, Judah Wickhauer? What does City Hall do? What does Sam Sanders do? What does City Council do? To be honest, I can't see them touching that policy with the 10-foot pole. Unbelievable. I disagree with you. Go ahead, explain why. Even the lunatics on Reddit are tired of the houseless,

causing safety concerns, sanitary concerns, and quality of life concerns on the downtown mall. Even the lunatics on Reddit are saying this. I mean, some of those lunatics fall on both sides of the aisle. Tush. I don't know which ones you're talking about. It could be both. The lunatics on Reddit are...

Okay, go ahead. They're not all... Go ahead. I don't want to open that Pandora's box. Go ahead. I can't see our city council touching this. Really? How?

How? In what reality does our city council... Economic development, standing up for small business owners who are struggling to pay their bills, quality of life, tourism, safety, getting girls' nights to have cocktails back on the downtown mall like they once did before

COVID. Having children like ours, not having to step over piles of poo or watching people shoot up H-bombs sitting next to the mud house, not having the glass storefront window busted at the mud house like it was a little while ago. I mean, I can continue if you would like me to. not having the screaming guy walking up and down the eight blocks not getting shaken down it's no longer do you have any change the shakedown is do you have ten dollars

how about all the above those are all great reasons that doesn't mean I can see the city council members then doesn't that make them spineless and these are one of them I call a friend three of them I call associates one of them hasn't given me the time of day we I mean when have we ever seen any appetite from the city council

I'm not even necessarily talking about these specific five city council members one have we ever seen an appetite from our city council to do something that would be so drastic as to the new zoning ordinance drastic and radical but that doesn't affect homeless people that affects cost of living quality of life

the economy housing you can see that but there's no it's not like there's a it's not like you can point to something and be like see that's what this you know

this price increase or that all right I'm going to start I'm going to start that Brian Pinkston you are on your way out you did not get re-elected that Jen Fleischer is taking your seat. Brian Pinkston, you watch and listen to this program, you

legitimately Brian Pinkston have nothing to lose. In September, when this comes across your desk on the dais and you vote, no, we're not going to take the possessions, then Brian Pinkston, that's weak sauce. You are not going to serve on the dais anymore.

Take the temperature of business owners on the downtown mall, who are not just begging, who are not just imploring, but are screaming to clean up them all. Brian Pinkston, you need to lead the charge. Lloyd Snook, you have

limited time left in your second term. Lloyd Snook, you're north of 70 years old. This is part of your legacy, Lloyd Snook. There's two of five. Do I think Natalie Oshund's going to touch

this? No, because she's so politically motivated and wants to climb the vertical political ladder. She knows not to touch this. I think Michael Payne has some political motivation to him, too. So the swing vote is Juan Diego Wade. And my question is, does Juan Diego Wade have the Cajonis in September to say, we are going to clean up the mall with the removal of possessions from the houseless?

And so you think he does. It's going to come to him because Pinkston, you're on the way out, you've got nothing to lose. Snook, there's no re-election coming here for a third term. 70-plus years old. 70 plus years old. Okay? Juan Diego waits the swing boat. Oursran and Payne.

This is going to be their livelihood. Ostrins' future is not selling half a million dollar a year weddings for Pippin Hill. And what's Michael Payne doing professionally? I'm not going to say anything I'm not supposed to because you always reprimand me, Judah. So I'm listening to you. I'm not going to say anything I'm not supposed to about Michael Payne. Okay. Okay.

Waits the swing vote. wades to swing and you're arguing that they're going to go for this so that means that you think that when the loonies on Reddit say you need to clean it up that says a lot to me

that's a temperature read for me yeah that's fair that's a temperature read for me that's definitely uh and that's going to be a hell of a story dude that's going to give us so much fodder on this talk show so much fodder on this talk show

so much fire I think the other side of that coin is guess who gets to do the what are we talking about uh we're talking about confiscating there is do we do they do this while the while the homeless people are asleep do they do this with the police villainizing the police do they do this with parks and rec who has no real experience confiscating the possessions of the homeless well that's where i was going for it's obviously going to be the police that get they get strapped with this is chief cautious about to be put in a tough spot again by council and by city hall like he was the spot he was

was put in with Sandersville in the Market Street Park, where you had to get the homeless out of the park? I think he does the same thing. Well, I take some pizzas to them and knock, and knock on their Coleman tent door. Hey, you can't sleep here anymore? Have some Vita Nova pepperoni pizza?

No. Remember during Sandersville, the park when the homeless took over the most noticeable park in all of the region, Market Street Park, Lee Park, Emancipation Park, Freedom Park. whatever the park's called.

Remember when they took it over? There was legitimately the house list that were living in the park that were doing news interviews with NBC29. And they said it with the news interviews with NBC29, we want the community to come get to know us. So we're going to have an open house at Freedom Park, at Market Park, at Mancipation Park, at Lee Park. We're going to have an open house.

And at this open house, we're going to have brownies, we're going to have cookies, and we'll have Narcan for everyone to enjoy. That's what the guy is. said to NBC29. We'll have brownies and cookies and Narcan for everyone to enjoy. Good old Narcan cookies. Good old Narcan.

So anyways. So anyways. That's true story. That literally happened. You know that happened. True story. Go ahead, Judah. Yeah, but what does that have to do with the police?

Kachis had to clean that up. I know that. He had to clean that up with his officers, including him, going door to door on those coal. tent's ratat tanning on those Coleman tent doors and saying, you can't sleep here. You've got to be out by the end of the night. Oh, and here's some Vita Nova pizza for you and to enjoy. Yeah. The way I That's like how I do with our three-year-old. Hey, you want cookies and cream ice cream at the end of the night? You better behave. Cotches is a smart man. He's extremely smart. I think given this is going

to fall on him. I think given an order like this, he would do, absolutely nothing and when he would he would wait until uh until sam sanders made it in order and then he would say okay you need to point to what you want us to confiscate because i'm not going to send police roaming up and down the downtown mall to just toss random possessions into a what a dumpster a downtown mall paddy wagon Jesus. I mean, you know, it's not like you're going to drive a, I guess you could drive a vehicle down the mall.

They do it all the time. We see it all the time at Barts and Rec. But you need something with, you know, like a dump truck. Yeah. It'd be a dump truck. Think of the optics of driving a dump truck. They would not do that. Okay.

They would not. Think about the optics of that. Confiscating is a very different animal than... Then throw it in a dump truck. Then, yeah, destroying someone's possessions. This is bananas. And this comes from the executive orders that Trump is pushing through. Trump literally this week in the news saying,

houseless and Washington, D.C., you're getting out now. Are you going to feel the wrath of God? His words. I know. Okay. His executive orders now give jurisdictions the power to do this. He's saying you're going to be far from D.C. Right.

You need to go far from D.C. Another impact of Trump impacting Charlottesville. Potentially. Federal Executive Institute, impact. Naming Almaro County Public Schools and its DEI curriculum, impact. Federal funding to get Jim Ryan canned, impact?

The fact that it's coming from Trump gives me even more fuel for the fact that the city council is not going to touch this. Except the constituency wants downtown clean now. Even far left once downtown clean now. Cleaning downtown has become a bipartisan issue. I don't know if I believe that.

You don't think safety, security, cleanliness for downtown Charlottesville is a bipartisan issue? It may be a bipartisan issue, but getting people to agree that this is the correct way to go about it, I do not see the two sides. I don't even see the left agreeing with the left about this or the right agreeing with the right. I disagree. I could see... Respectfully.

I can see plenty of people on both sides that would see it from both angles. I respectfully disagree. And that's what makes this talk show so great. I will close on this before we go to the next topic. Let me ask this question. Do we think that confiscating their possessions is the best way to get them off the deal?

downtown mall. I think it's a way of doing it. The other way is this, telling the soup kitchens not to serve food, taking away the electrical outlets that are on the downtown mall, the free electricity, where cell phones are plugged in to charge, closing the public library where the houseless is getting out of inclement weather, the heat, the cold, and the rain while hanging out in the library, closing that down, right? You haven't even mentioned the haven't taken the haven away and putting it somewhere else. I would think that would be removing the people, that they can shake down for money, taking away the free internet that the house list are using all the time, you're not going to do any of that. This seems like the path of lease friction.

And I'm going to tell you right now, the haters of this show are going to immediately take everything that I'm saying out of context and say that I'm a DICK when it comes to the house list. And I'm going to say, that's absurd. I've said hand up instead of hand out all the time. I've said joint venture with Almaro County and the city of Charlottesville, utilize taxpayer resources, do a JV, a joint venture, and create some kind of houseless campus where there's laundry, there's computer labs, where there's addiction council, where there's shelter, where there's beds on a bus route. I was the biggest proponent ever of the Salvation Army conversion on Cherry Avenue.

Guess what? Everybody wants a homeless shelter, a low barrier or a homeless shelter, unless it's right next door, all of the Fifeville Neighborhood Association fought against this low barrier your shelter in the Salvation Army spot. Guess what? Nothing's materialized to that. Everyone's for helping the houseless, except when that shelter helps right next to your home and next to your kids and where they play.

Literally, the definition of not my backyard. Definition, literally. It's funny how, it's funny how that works when it's your backyard. Bingo. It's called hypocrisy. It's easy to point the finger and look down. your nose at other people and call them nimbies but uh when your backyard is threatened

watch hypocrisy pinkston starts with a yes vote snook realizes this is part of its legacy all shorn and pain who are politically voted motivated say no and juan dago wait it's going to come down to his cahones okay regardless it's going to be phenomenal fodder for the show does a dumb trunk led by either Charlottesville Parks and Rec or the Charlottesville Police Department go from the Omni Hotel to the pavilion with either parks and wreck employees or police officers taking the possessions from the houseless and throwing it into the dump truck as if it was Samford and Sun. They'd have to do that every day. Samford and Sun was a junkyard. Was it, was it trash? I don't remember. You'd have to do that every day. Oh, you do that for a week and it's

everything's done. You do that for a week and it's done. literally a week and it's done. Next headline, what do you got? Was Sanford and Sondon in a junkyard? I think it was a junkyard. Go ahead. How was it before my time?

This is before my time. Tobies. All right. Interesting opportunity here. Conan Owen, let's give some loves to Curspeedy of Central Virginia. Curspeedy of Central Virginia, locally owned and operated by Conan Owen,

the CEO and owner of Surcepeedy of Central Virginia, Conan Owen. If you have a logo and you need some kind of visibility for it, whether it's signage on your window, window decals on your window, a decal for your car, this banner that's directly behind me is a sur-speedy special. They have pamphlets, direct mail, trifolds, stickers, Sir Speedy of Central Virginia. Ladies and gentlemen, has you covered? Conan Owen broke the news on this talk show that Toby's of Toby's pawn shop purchased real

estate on Rio Road. I think it was the old Photo Works building. PhotoWorks sold its business, then Toby bought the real estate that PhotoWorks was in. He's now Toby, who's a savvy and sophisticated businessman, he is now changing Pawn for good. That's his tagline, it's a great tagline. And he is going to build an epicenter for Pawn on Rio Road. And as a result of that transition and real estate purchase, Toby is leaving his Pantops location, and it's now for lease. I found this interesting.

The Toby's spot is 3,187 square feet. It's an old Hardy's location on Pantops. The rental rate is $39 per foot. That breaks down 39 times $3,187.2, $124,293. You divide that by 12 months. You get $10,357. Rent, triple net. But that does not include, ladies and gentlemen, property expenses or building services. It does not include utilities. rent on this spot is going to be flirting with 11,000 a month when this is all said and done. 11,000 a month when this is all said and done. But boy, oh, boy, do you have a fantastic location? Yeah. Boy, oh, boy, do you have a fantastic location? I think this particular location is tied to Tip Top Terry, Terry Vassalos. Okay.

Tip Top Terry, Terry Vassalos owns a boatload of real estate, including a lot on the UVA corner and a lot around town. pretty sure tip-top Terry has this location as one of his trophy properties in his portfolio. This piece of property, how many cars go by this Toby's every day on Pantops? A lot. Tens of thousands every day. The parking is plentiful, and it's set up for a restaurant with a drive-thru. This is a nice little piece of property. At about $11,000 a month, ladies and gentlemen.

Nice little piece of property. Next headline, Judah Wickcarrow. Oh, let's get to comments. Comments are coming in. This is a show where we encourage you, the viewer, and listener, to offer comments. Judah, we're on point today, are we not? Sometimes you know when we're on point, right? Yeah.

I feel like we know we're on point. John Blair. John Blair is photo on screen. Number two in the family. Love John Blair. I also got comments from number one in the family, deep throat. Let's go to John Blair first. Jerry, I'll offer you an interesting legal twist on the entire Board of Visitor's situation.

John Blair says Virginia Code section 23.1-1-1300 says that the governor can remove members for malfeasance and non-feasants, and the governor is the sole judge of the sufficiency of the cause for removal. Here's the thing. The statute has never been changed. Article 3 of the Virginia Constitution requires a separation between the judicial and executive functions. It is not out of question that a board of visitor member could challenge the statue for being facially in opposition to the Virginia Constitution. Wow. I did not know that. John Blair, you're extremely intelligent. I did not know that. I will ask John this question, hypothetically, anyone this question. If that is the case, why did Burt Ellis not do that? Question for John. Question for anybody else. And I don't doubt John's legal mind in any capacity. Why did Bert Ellis not do that, then?

Interesting. Bert Ellis said, I did nothing wrong. Bert Ellis said the governor is smearing my reputation. Bert Ellis said, I am not going to take, I'm not going to lie or say that I'm stepping down myself from the board because I don't want to step down. I'm not going to say it's because I'm too busy at work or because I'm sick. that would go against Jefferson's honor code at UVA, I'm not going to lie.

He's forced the governor to remove him from the board for malfeasance. Why did Bert Ellis, if that is the case, John Blair, just throwing it out there, why did he not challenge the statute for being facially in opposition

to the Virginia Constitution? Conan Owens' photo on screen. He says the executive order gives them the power to do it, but they have the choice on how they clean up the area, the downtown mall. Totally up to their interpretation. I will say this. After today's talk show, this cleanup strategy, because I'm going to

continue to emphasize it next week, and I have the newspaper, TV, and radio stations watching me right now, I will continue to emphasize the executive order and the cleanup strategy in downtown Charlottesville to it is 100% in the news, and on the spoken, on the tip of everyone's tongue, which will put some pressure perceived in actual on counsel to do something. John Blair says, I cannot explain why Bert Ellis did not challenge it. I think there are so, so many stories in the background that we have no clue about. I think he's 100% right. If there's someone knowing Bert Ellis that would challenge the governor, would it not be a Bert Ellis? I can see it being a Burt Ellis, but I could also see Burt Ellis being, of all the people on the board of visitors,

Burt Ellis seems to me like he really, really, really does love UVA in Charlottesville. And I think Burt also really, really does love himself. Okay. And he was made to not look so great by the governor. Yeah, but I feel like that would give him ample reason to fight back. I think in this case, he refused to lie about why he was leaving the board. But once the decision was made by the governor, he went along with it for the, if I had a guess, just to do what's best for UVA. I agree with that. You don't agree with that? No, because I think Bert Ellis thinks what was best for UVA was a complete reset of UVA, and he was leading that charge. I don't agree with that. Next headline, what do you got? And Sanford was a junk dealer. William McChesney has confirmed that for us. He was a junk dealer, Sanford, of Sanford and Son. Next headline, what do you got you with car? We have Browns also for sale.

Lock and Safe on Market Street is for sale. Do we know? I would love to hear if somebody knows if they're moving. I mean, if it's for sale, obviously they know it's for sale. William McChesney, is Browns moving to another location? Perhaps they're... Bill McChesney, is Browns moving to another location? We should ask them.

Let's ask them. Perhaps they're... We're in there to make copies of the keys for our rentals all the time. Maybe they're by appointment only is because they're going to be moving a lot of their stuff over the coming weeks, and they don't want someone to have to constantly be at the shop. Great question. Do we know? Bill, do we know? We do know the building is for sale. There's a for sale sign in the window. What I find intriguing about this is it's adjacent to Jeff Levine's ownership of the Artful Lodger, Posture Studio,

livery stable shopping center and as of a couple of months ago the common house was for sale so if anybody wants to assemble parcels and properties you got a boatload of upside there and it would seem jeff levin would be the guy to do that assemblage the artful lodger spot has so much upside he's going to build a hotel in the shadows of the omni but what happens if you combine the Artful Lodger Shopping Center with the Browns Spot and with Common House. Geez, Louise, you would have one of the most

significantly marquee positions in all of the region. No doubt. If you had Browns, Common House, and the Artful Lodger Shopping Center, boy, oh boy, could you build something special

there? No doubt. And that is a critical aspect of downtown, because it's literally on Market Street as people are pulling into downtown Charlottesville. It's the first thing you see. The entrance to the downtown mall. You could build the sexiest,

fanciest, most expensive hotel experience. I'm talking something that downtown's never seen before. It would kick the Omni's booty. Yeah. Unbelievable opportunity there. It's going to cost you. You're going to cost you. I mean, really, common house, you can, common house in a lot of ways, is a good shape it would

kind of convey. Yeah, imagine if you could build around that. Yeah, you keep the common house and you turn it into like a restaurant and bar associated with your hotel. Yeah. Holy do-do there's upside there. No doubt. I'm unbelievable.

Next headline, what do we got, Jude Wicker? Jack of all trades. Jack of all wits. The only guy I've ever seen wear a button-down shirt. denim pants and undershirt and gargile socks jacked past his knees to his thighs in a hundred degree heat without sweating actually my a drop of perspiration my socks have a picture of uh of rhino with sunglasses and it says uh chubby unicorn juan sarmiento says a tacos gomez or la mitchocana a Charlottesville mega location at the old Toby's on Pantops.

Forget about it. Juan Sormento. Jason Noble says that the rector and vice rector will answer Creed's 46 questions like politicians. A non-answer answer from Jason Noble. Plead the fifth is what they will do. They are spineless and they won't touch it in regards to city council and the executive order that allows jurisdictions the opportunity to

potentially clean up the streets. Jason Noble, we love when you watch the program. Any other headlines do we have on screen? Are we done? Let's see. I think all we've got left is 1,101 homes. So I'll throw this to you. Viewers and listeners, this is items that I learned

from Real Talk from Keith Smith this morning. Through August 15th of this year and the car footprint, this is MLS data. 1,101 homes have been sold. of those 1,101 homes, homes that were correctly priced from the start, no price change before the sale, 824 fit that moniker. 824 of the 101, of the 1,001 were homes that were correctly priced from the start

and did not have a price cut. 315 homes sold over original list price, and 277 homes had their price rate. reduced before sale. So there's been 1,101 homes sold in the car footprint from January 1 to August 15th. Of that 1,101, 824 homes, which is 75% of sales sold at their asking price. 315 of those homes, which is 29% sold over asking price, and 25% of those homes, 277, sold at a price cut. And the takeaway from Real Talk with Keith Smith and the very dapper, Keith Smith, is price your home correctly

out of the gate. Price your home correctly out of the gate. All right, that's the talk show. I thought we did a pretty good job this week. If you like the show, if the show makes you feel something, I don't even care if you agree with me or like the show. But if the show makes you feel something, tell somebody about the show. We don't care if you like the show. But if it makes you feel something, tell somebody about the show. Monday through Friday, 1230 to 130 on the I Love Seville Network. Next Tuesday, Professor Letty Klotz will join us.

UVA professor. We'll talk 40-hour versus 60-hour a week, Letty Klotz. And I encourage you to reach out to me for any of your office space needs. A lot of people that are doing it. We'll play matchmaker. Thank you kindly for joining us. Jerry Miller, Judah Wickcarver. Enjoy your weekend.

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