The Iced Coffee Hour - Confronting Biaheza | Reacting To His $1 Million Portfolio At 19 Years Old
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Welcome to the 26th ever episode of the Jack and Graham coffee hour.
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As far, the podcast has generated $14,900, which Graham actually blew on a brand new
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So starting back from scratch.
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First thing he showed me when I came in here, flexed on me.
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iced coffee. And with that said, back to the podcast. Yeah, this is the 26th ever episode. Do you know
what that is guys? Do you know what that? That's half a year. That's how wait, it hasn't really
been half a year? Oh, wow. What's the statistics? It's six months. Usually people
don't make it past their like 10th or what?
I feel like there's a statistic about that.
Oh, and about YouTube and postings?
Podcasts specifically.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
I think we've beat the statistics.
Well, there we go.
Whatever we do, though, we got to do it best.
We got to dominate it.
We're going to be the best, guys.
And this is all because of you guys.
So thank you so much.
And as an appreciation, I'm going to remind you guys to destroy the like button.
And also as an appreciation, we brought on one of the most coveted guests on the podcast.
We have to talk about so much with you.
Biaheza, Vlad.
First off, let's give an introduction.
So you have approximately like, what, 600,000 subscribers on YouTube?
620.
And you make YouTube videos about e-commerce and about options trading.
Yeah.
And, yeah, about like stock market investing.
Yeah, basically just combined business with, like, entertainment.
But e-commerce was the first thing I kind of started doing.
And then from that, I spread on to trying out other businesses.
Yeah.
You make some really good videos, by the way.
These are the videos that take, like, a week to produce.
You only post once a week.
You make sure it's a really good banger.
Post it out there.
They do well.
It's really entertaining.
I watch almost all of them.
And I know you always post those Fridays.
No, no, I'm being serious.
Okay, wow.
Thank you.
Yeah, but beyond that, you also have over a million dollar portfolio at 19 years old.
Which we just went over.
You can check out on my channel.
Everyone's subscribed to be a hazard.
Yeah.
Please.
Everyone subscribe to him right now.
Get them to 600,000.
I'm already there.
Get them to 700,000 everybody.
There you go.
But yeah.
Yeah.
It's impressive.
So over $1.1 million of assets, 19 years old, the nets.
You got like a net worth of like $900 and something thousand dollars.
Like you're almost at a million dollars.
I wouldn't say, well, that's just my investments.
What's non-investment assets?
Well, I'm saving up some money for a new, well, that's a liability though, right?
So I can't count that.
No, not.
necessarily. I count the car as equity.
Okay, then it's probably closer to like,
I say 1.5, 1.6.
Wait, how do you go? Where's this extra money coming from? Yeah.
Well, I have some money right now sitting on the sidelines for new rental property.
So I have that. I'm just waiting for my tax returns to come in,
not come in, but file my taxes. So I have the two years of employment on there.
And then I'm going in on a new rental property.
So I have.
Why did you not show your, here's the thing, guys.
We went over his whole.
investment portfolio and it was 1.1 million dollars with like a 200 something
thousand dollar mortgage on that so like the net's about 900 why don't you include
cash in that position i included cash it's like showing your bank accounts though i don't know
i should have yes it's not showing bank i i'll believe you you could you could show me here
show me here and then i'll be like okay i'll confirm without without revealing any detail how
How much cash do you have?
I have around, well, I have to pay tax on some of it.
Okay.
I'm doing quarterly, so not all of it, but probably around like two, three hundred K that's on the sidelines.
So you passed a million dollar net worth at 19.
Basically.
At 19.
That's so much, dude.
Yeah.
Like, the fact that you're 19.
Yeah.
And I'm 22.
Everyone's on their own time.
No, good on you.
Bravo, because I did not expect you to.
be doing so well. I thought you were doing really well.
That's... But that's incredible.
I didn't know either. That's why I'm
like, I'm honestly shocked.
And by the way, we go to
extremes on the podcast, not to talk about
any of this stuff before everything is
recording. I kid you not.
He came here a little early. We're posting
my video and like half the things I wanted to talk about.
I'm like, no, no, no, we got to do it on the podcast. We can't
talk about that. So many questions
and so many answers. Let's just start with them.
How did you do that?
Well, it goes back to middle school.
six, seventh grade.
Okay.
I started making Instagram theme pages.
Are you guys familiar with those?
Mm-hmm.
Instagram theme.
Yeah.
So, I mean, for the people who aren't, you just build pages in a particular niche,
repost on them on Instagram, credit the people whose content you repost, and then you grow the page.
So I started selling ads on those in like high school and eventually notice that all the people
who are hitting me up were doing something called drop shipping.
So you guys, you guys don't have to know what that is.
Yeah.
Right.
So it's basically a form of e-commerce where you're just the middleman.
for the people that don't know, but I noticed that that's what they were doing.
So I started doing that for myself.
And I launched some ads on my own pages.
And those ads just did extremely well because I kind of saw what everyone was sending me to post on my Instagram pages.
So I kind of was indirectly in the e-commerce space for a while.
But then once I actually tried it out, ended up doing pretty well with it.
And then used that money to get into Facebook ads.
And that's what really did it for me.
And then along the journey, I started doing YouTube and document.
meaning everything so it's kind of okay so Instagram how much money were you making from
Instagram and how big were those accounts total followers probably like in the millions
well not probably in the millions and then I had a month that I made $500 in 2018 with those
pages then 1500 then 2000 but at that point I was like a full-time college student I was
working two other jobs and running these pages sucks because you constantly got to be in the
DMs.
You got a people flake on you, try to scam you, all kinds of sus things going on.
So I was like, I'm willing to take a pay cut on these pages and start drop shipping on them,
just so I wouldn't have to deal with all those DMs.
So I was expecting to make like around $500 when I transferred from selling ads on those to dropshipping.
But I launched some ads and they did like incredibly well.
I can actually pull up the Shopify numbers if you guys want to.
That's see.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Let's see him.
It'll do better for the timeline.
Could you like screen recorded or something?
Yeah, sure.
Yeah, let's do that.
So you obviously then dropped out of college, right?
Hold on.
All right, we're getting there.
I'm jumping ahead.
I'm jumping ahead too much.
Let me take you through my thought process here.
Let's see.
We head into the analytics shut down because of COVID, but.
So we're going back to 2018 in the calendar, right when he started selling his own items on his theme pages.
This was my second attempt, though.
I tried, like, drop shipping around six months before this, but I kind of
I broke even.
So this is my first month of like successfully doing it.
Okay.
So total,
so 33,
what's the profit?
That's the thing.
Because I was posting on my own pages mainly,
it was like 20 grand.
Wow.
Okay,
so total sales,
$33,000.
$20,000 of that was profit.
Yeah,
and you got to understand,
like,
I can say I come from the trenches and like,
be honest about it.
Like,
we're talking immigrant family of six
moving to the U.S.,
like small two-bedroom apartment
in the rough side of town.
So this 20K,
I don't think I even knew anybody
with a net worth of 20K.
So this was like a crazy amount of money,
but because I actually was watching your videos at the time
and like other finance channels
and reading finance books,
I wasn't stupid with the money
and I actually ended up saving it.
And I mean, this spike in income,
like that there's no,
I figured there's no way that was sustainable.
So I actually saved all this money
because I figured I'm going to have to pay for college now
because at the time I was low income family.
So I was on going through FAFSA.
But now I was like, okay, I'm going to need to spend money on college.
But then let's go to October.
And then it started declining there, had a good Black Friday thing in November.
So on 50, I'm guessing probably 35 of that then as profit.
Yeah, around 30.
Because at this point, I kind of dried up my pages.
So I had to start paying other people.
What do you mean you dried up your pages?
You can just post 100 ads a day on your pages.
Yeah, couldn't you vary it just like offer one day offer like dog treats the next day?
It is the same audience and the same product right so yeah it's your your pages are in a niche and it's like finding a winning product is one of the hardest parts
I see you can't really could you say what that product was and what your page was or is that is that course material do you still have the page?
It's course material I have all of the pages. I actually have someone I know running it and they're just selling ads on those so
there's still how much do they make now
probably still around like 2k
I could show you the pages just for
verification purposes
but yeah
we get to around January
or no February
that's when things really started drawing up with
Instagram
so I ended up only doing like 13 grand
okay so this one I was like good call
didn't drop out of college okay but then next month
this is when I found a new product
just dropped it on the same exact store
and started running
Facebook ads on it.
And the thing is, with Facebook ads, you can get more revenue and scale a lot quicker,
but the profit margins are going to be lower.
So if we go that first month, talking 66K, next month.
What's profit on that?
Probably like 30, maybe even 25.
So you're still in college while doing this.
Whoa.
Yeah.
So this was the first six-figure revenue month.
Yeah.
Then craziest thing next month, first.
Okay, I'll do that in a sec.
First six-figure profit.
Wow.
And that's for what May.
Can you tell us what that product was?
Oh, no.
We believe it.
We'll bleep it.
We'll bleep it.
You're still selling this product?
This first one I'm going to show you is that was my first one that popped off.
The second one, I still might actually sell it because it's been doing well for me.
Consistly.
Okay, so this was the first product that really popped off right here.
Got it?
I wouldn't have thought of that.
I've never seen it before
I'll wait till you see the second product
Alright so okay so I'm just gonna say the first product
Is something I haven't seen it before
But it's unique niche
I see how it could do well
How is that? Could I say that? Yeah, that's broad enough
Alright broad enough can I guess? Can I guess? Is it the is it the
No, that's the asai berry crap that they used to sell? Let's see
No
Wait a second wait a second wait
Whoa
I can't believe.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, let me finish the video, man.
How's it?
That's all you get.
No, no, no, I want to see more.
Let me see it.
Nobody knows what it is.
They're just going to see my reaction.
Let me hold this.
Look at that.
That's, that is insane.
Wait, wait.
Let me look at this again.
I feel bad for the people at home.
Wow.
No, it's, dude, we could, we could easily be worth like 20 million if we just invent.
I want to tell you.
And it's so.
So you want to white label that.
I'm thinking about it, yeah.
Because even before the,
gosh.
Like,
I was pulling numbers with this.
Guys,
I would never expect it.
You got to sign up for his course
because you'll get products like exactly.
What do you mean?
I don't want to make it seem to,
now we're pitching the program,
but explain this.
Wait,
wait,
so you tell people if they buy your program,
then you explain it?
Well,
I'm not going to reveal my best ever product.
I do reveal some products
because not that.
Those aren't the only.
two products. You wouldn't reveal that though. No, because I mean I'm still drop shipping it,
you know. That's genius dude. That is. That's crazy. The comments are going to be going
off on this. They're going to be mad. But I'm going to get my word. I'm not going to say anything.
You don't have to worry about that. It's, that's probably the most unique thing I've been,
I've been shown. That's the key. You got a novelty products. And how do you find a product like that?
This one actually just paid 20 bucks for a website where the list winning products found it,
ran up a store same day did like a thousand dollars worth of revenue on it what's the website
find out in my course oh jeez i'm just kidding i'm sorry that was a little too far of a cell
there's a bunch of them there's like alley shark there's dropship spy there's all kinds of
website it's like it's a common thing yeah by the way guys i'm so sorry because a lot of this is
going to have to be muted and i know that some people in the comments like the the the rawness
and authenticity of the podcast and that we don't mute stuff but this is stuff that we
We need to meet.
Wow.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Let's talk about your name because you've said that you wanted to talk about this on the podcast.
So it's Biaheza.
Right.
That's actually my last name.
My first name is Vlad.
Like Vladislav.
But for branding purposes, first thing you think about when you hear Vlad, come on.
Vladimir Putin.
We're talking Dracula.
We're talking the evil Russian guy in every movie.
So I felt like for branding purposes, it'd be best to just stick with the last name.
Although in retrospect, it's like the last name.
a little hard to pronounce.
So he said Vladislav?
Vladislav.
I thought of Vladimir, Grero, the hitter for the angels.
I don't know who that is, but I'm glad you have a good association there.
No, but yeah, because of that, I'm not like insecure about my name or anything.
It's just for branding purposes, I figured it would make more sense.
And I mean, it's kind of worked out.
I get it.
Probably should have just went with like a made-up stage name, like Graham-Steffen.
Yeah.
Just pick two first names, put them together in your set.
Yeah.
Can't trust the man with super names.
I know.
Well, that's smart.
I think that's, you know, Biaheza is a good name.
It is a little bit difficult to pronounce that because when I first heard of your name,
I thought it was Biajiza.
Yeah, that's what I thought.
Or Biajiza or something like that.
I should probably start saying you more in my videos because I don't.
Yeah, I would just so people know how to pronounce it.
And once you do it a few times, it would be funny for you to introduce a video and be like,
what's up, guys, Vladislavis here.
Just switch it up on him.
Yeah.
Where's your family from originally?
Belarus.
Belarus.
And when did they come to the U.S.?
When I was six years old.
So I was like a little over 10 years ago, like 10, 13.
Do you remember growing up there?
A little bit, but, you know, I started school here, so it's very faint memories.
But I've been back, so.
Okay.
I know what to say.
Where is Belarus?
Is that in Russia?
No, it's a separate country.
It's right in.
between Poland and Russia and Ukraine.
It's like a little separate little spot over there.
Do you speak any other languages?
Speak Russian.
There's actually a Belarusian language,
but nobody really speaks it.
And I don't know what it is.
And you still speak that fluently?
Russian?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Wow.
I mean, that was my English is technically my second language.
Wow.
What was that one thing that Lingua Marino
wanted us to popsy dices or something like that?
Oh, I don't know.
Smash the like buddy.
How do you say that?
Uh,
Stavty like on this video.
Statsh like, not a video.
Stavty like.
Stavty like.
On this video.
Na etam video.
Stach de like, not at this video.
He made it sound a little German there, but...
All right.
All right, so what brought your parents then to the US?
Sacramento, was it?
Yeah.
Okay.
So my grandma was a refugee.
She was prosecuted for Christianity back during the Soviet Union.
So because of that,
my parents were able to get refugee status as well.
Wow.
So that's, yeah, so it's even crazy that I'm like in the US.
That's crazy.
So you ended up doing really well then as a teenager.
And when did you get to the point then when you started
thinking about dropping out of school?
First, like around the first couple of months with the drop shipping,
when I was doing like 20K, I told myself that if I ever cross 100K profit
in a single month, I'll do it.
Yeah, but I mean, I didn't know, because again,
Like college, all I knew was college.
I knew that, like, you can go through college and you can have a good job and you'll be secure.
So I was, like, kind of encouraged to go through that.
So I saw this as something that wouldn't really be as reliable as that.
So I wanted to play it safe, but I ended up hitting that in March.
So I finished that first year and dropped out.
What March was this?
Not this year, March.
2018.
Jeez.
Been on the grind for a while.
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Yeah, this is something we say for the podcast.
Yeah, right.
Graham Steffen videos, I was super early on.
So, like, throughout high school, we're talking three years ago.
Yeah.
And Graham was the first time I heard about rental property investing and, like, all of that real estate stuff.
And now I'm actually doing it.
So this is like a real visualized impact that you had on the world.
So is this is after you were managing the Instagram accounts.
Yeah, because, I mean, I was doing Instagram since middle school.
Okay.
Wow.
There you go.
See, sometimes it's like these little tiny things that you,
put out there, like on trends or just, just anything, and you never know who's going to watch
it and what they're going to do with that information.
Yeah. Shout out to Graham.
That's awesome, man.
That's so cool.
What else?
I feel like there's so much now.
There is a lot.
Like, no, yeah, go for it.
I mean, that's absolutely incredible that you've been able to do all of that just by 19 years old.
When do you turn 20?
February of next year.
Okay.
I'm getting this soon enough.
Yeah.
It's crazy.
Like, you can't even drink yet, but like, your bank account is.
Yeah, that is crazy.
You could buy a used Bugatti if you want.
If you sold everything right now, you could buy a used 2006 Bugatti.
How much are those?
One, two.
I think you probably should.
Should I do it?
Yeah, it would be good for branding.
It would.
Can I deduct it as marketing?
Yeah.
I'll see why.
You just depreciate the car.
100% business use Bugatti.
Depreciated over seven years.
We got to squash some sort of controversy as well.
So we've been getting a lot of requests on our channel.
saying they want you to come on our podcast and it is like it's odd an inordinate amount yeah like
it's like it will be a comment and it will be it'll have like over 150 likes suspicious yeah graham
thinks you're you gonna say it i'll say yeah okay now i'm gonna say it for like a year now
uh-huh people have only requested to have you on the channel consistently they all get like
100 200 likes i was almost thinking you were like you were the one behind it or you were the one like
either making these accounts posting up there or having other people like guiding people like
hey just just keep posting this keep liking it because we got so many and we don't get this
for anybody else and it just seems odd that of anybody out there you are the one that gets
picked and your comments are the one that go to the top I mean first of all I appreciate that
but the fact that I only replied to your DM three months after you hit me up exactly
that kind of disproves all that Graham we're playing hard to get
Graham brought it up to me.
Graham brought it up to me.
And I was like, so I was like, no, I've seen like a decent amount of his videos now.
And I think he is not a guru at all.
No, I never thought that.
Yeah.
Very legit.
Right.
So you give the seal of approval.
Wow.
That's a bold.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But it just, it seems like I got so many comments.
It was a lot.
Yeah.
And once I started pointing it out, like jazz like, wow, yeah, we got another one here.
And it had like a hundred likes.
It was one of the most liked comments, multiple times.
times. Nah, like I wasn't even really trying to come on the podcast all the mud just because I feel
like I'm a little anxious with like the collabs and all. So this wasn't, this wasn't my idea, you know.
But it's crazy. Some people are like dying hard fans of yours. So just for the record, none of those
were you. That was all organic. Everyone that asks for you to be on the channel is 100% organic. Amen.
Really? Yeah. I do have a good comment story that I want to get into.
Okay. That's crazy, man. I mean, your audience then.
because we don't get this for anybody.
Like, no one has had that level of consistency to ask.
That would have been smart, though.
Because that's what I thought.
I thought you'd be like, hey, if I could just get on his radar, like, post a comment like this, just even like bought it, like 100 times.
Or I could just post on Instagram like, hey, guys, let's make this happen.
Everyone's going to start.
But then I, okay, I understand it.
That's where it came from.
All organic, baby.
You got a good audience, man.
A really supportive audience.
I just got to compliment your audience really quickly because Graham posted on his Instagram today
that he was, you know, that you're with us and we're going to do some sort of collaboration.
And we got so many comments on today's video.
Like we want Bia Heza to like respond to this comment.
And like there was like times where there's five in a row when you sorted by newest where they would just be like Biaheza respond.
Yeah.
Like you have a loyal audience.
Don't compliment me.
compliment the audience.
Yeah, guys.
It's incredible.
Thanks guys.
Yeah.
But you don't see that often with like finance YouTube.
I'd say Andre Jick is another one.
But I feel like your audience is stronger in a sense.
But that's like that's because I think I integrate a lot more entertainment into my videos and like I show a lot more personality than a lot of like the finance people.
I wonder if it's your age.
I wonder if it's being 19 that in a sense people feel more comfortable with you because they don't feel like you're as, you.
you're older and they feel like the older you are maybe the more like i don't want to say the more
tricks you got but there's more of a separation between like what's the angle versus you being 19
living with your parents doing incredibly well it's easier to relate to you thing is though there's like
a lot of young people doing well with drop shipping like my numbers compared to what's really out there
not even impressive no but like millions per month it doesn't matter though because what you have is
the personality and the entertainment value of YouTube.
Who else is doing drop shipping right now who has your numbers and is making videos like you
in the ways that you do it?
I don't think anybody.
I mean, there's some good channels.
I don't want to discredit any, but I guess.
Yeah, I think I was one of the first to really bring, I mean, you were one of the first
to bring a lot more entertainment in the tier, but I took it to like kind of another level
with the challenges and whatnot.
Yeah.
So, yeah.
I think you're a perfect blend between finance and Ryan Trahan.
That's what I think.
I agree with that.
Shout out Ryan.
Yeah.
It's a compliment.
So what's your comment story?
Oh yeah, let's hear the comment story.
I'm curious if you remember this, Graham.
Back when I was first, we're talking like late 2018, first started the YouTube channel.
Well, I didn't start it.
Even further backstory.
I actually used to make skate videos back in the day.
Privited all of those, started doing the finance video.
He shouldn't have private it.
You should unprivate those videos and just see the reaction.
Maybe I'll do it.
You could do a reacting video series to you.
K-point videos.
And that would be a cool video to also, you could talk about the progress along the way
and just the journey of YouTube and how much money you've made.
That's a good video.
I'm actually doing that.
Good.
All right, so let's hear it.
One of my growth strategies was to have my notifications on for like all of the finance channels.
Whenever someone drops a video, I kind of like scroll through it, see what's up.
And then I'll think of something like funny.
Drop it in the comments, common sense, like it to get the ball rolling.
And then as people would see it,
more likes and we're talking like if your video would get 300,000 views, that's 300,000 people that would see my comment because it'd be the top comment and I wouldn't do like a scammy little call to action or anything. I would just drop like a solid comment so guaranteed top comment every time. So I'm curious if you remember that. I get so many guys. I remember. I would say there's maybe four fine people that I consistently remember. That's exciting though man. How many subscribers do you think you got from that? Well, that's how I kick started everything. So I,
I had like 2K on the skateboarding stuff,
and then just to kick the finance videos off,
that's what I do for like, for a long time.
Because I didn't start making money with YouTube
until like a while, you know?
Wow.
I wasn't doing any like brand deals or anything,
so it was a grind.
Wow.
Did that for a while.
So you're living with your parents.
Any plans on moving out?
Or you want to live with them as long as you can?
Because my, I think you just live with them as long as you can at this point.
Just save as much as you can.
I think it's pennies now at this point.
No.
Pennies matter.
You get 20 of them, you get a free coffee.
But also like content.
You know, if you got your own place, you could like get a nice studio.
I'm thinking of getting like an office, but I'm not like limited.
I have my freedom of parents.
Yeah, what are your thoughts on that?
Well, I agree.
I think if I were to move out, I just start spending a lot more money because it's like keeps me grounded, you know.
At the end of the day, it's still living at your mama's house.
It's like, keeps me humble.
Yeah.
What I think is that you only have this opportunity.
once you're out once you get your own spot you're not you're not don't you can't move backwards
so just keep in mind that once you make that move that's a permanent move like real estate if if
it's just money that's a permanent move i say keep it as long as it does not hinder you and as long
as you could keep putting out the same content you get along with your family everything's going
well given another few years i would say 22 23 well well i mean what
Yeah, when it starts clearing like five million years.
Give it another like 10 years, man.
Give it at least until 30.
At 30, you could re-envaluate your decision.
Now, but I was actually thinking about early next year,
whether to buy a rental property
or to get like my own crib.
So I guess now that you said, I'll probably go with the rental.
Let me ask you this, though,
and I'll get Jack's opinion on this too.
I do think there's a sense of relatability
that you live with your parents.
because I think a big portion of the audience is under 25.
They're living with your parents and they're seeing you do so well.
And it's encouraging to feel like, hey, listen, like there's no shame in that.
You're doing really well.
And it's almost, it just, it, I don't want to say, it grounds you,
but it just, it makes what you're doing, I think, more attainable.
Yeah, because it's just, it's not some extravagant thing.
The more you start to, I don't want to say the lifestyle inflation,
but the more you start to spend, I've noticed, I think, the less,
attainable it looks because you start to get that separation.
Yeah, I think that's why even Mr. Beast,
that's why he is where he is today.
I mean, he still didn't do any of that Lambo stuff.
So I 100% agree with that.
The reliability is very important.
Right.
So I would almost say give it another few years.
Maybe Jack's like...
But I think the good compromise here is just to get like a little office space,
like a little warehouse type of thing going for like the content purposes.
Maybe.
I think in your case it's upon the individual.
right? Like if you think that you're someone that can fall victim to lifestyle
inflation and you think that you wouldn't be able to control yourself
if you started giving yourself nice things, I would say yeah,
reserve that kind of stuff until later. But if you,
you seem very, very grounded and like down to earth. So I wouldn't imagine that you
started going out and like buying like super crazy stuff. First thing I do when I move out,
Lambo baby. So I like, I don't know, I think that you're probably fine. Like at this point,
let's talk about income a little bit later.
Yeah.
But I think you're probably making more than enough.
My vote is reevaluated at 22.
22.
My vote is reevaluate in like two and a half years.
That's my vote.
It depends on how much you value living with your parents
versus having your own place and like doing your own kind of stuff
and having those liberties.
But then again, it's all in the individual.
Like for me, I actually thoroughly enjoy living with my parents.
Like I enjoy the company and we get along really well.
I feel like I just get lonely.
There you go.
So there.
Yeah.
I think that's also something to take.
into account.
Yeah.
Yeah, something to keep in mind.
22.
I would say, yeah.
21.
How about that?
We'll compromise.
21, then you can think about it.
That's my recommendation.
Because, again, once you move out,
you don't move back.
Yeah, that makes sense.
Yeah.
Do you want to talk about income?
Are you cool with that?
How deep do you want to go?
Really deep.
As deep as possible.
I want to know everything.
I already talk.
talk about it on my channel.
Okay.
What do you guys want to know?
Income streams.
Yeah.
And then the amount.
Let's see.
How many income streams do you have at this point?
The drop shipping, which I had to stop because of Rona and I haven't gone back into it
because it's been slacking.
But then we have the YouTube adsense and then the course and then it gets brand deals and
real estate and then the stocks if you want to count that.
Got it.
Okay.
So you got a good amount.
Where's the most income coming from right now?
At this point?
Yeah.
At this point with YouTube.
With YouTube.
Yeah.
I would imagine the courses.
Oh, well, part of YouTube.
Okay.
So, but, but, like, we're separating AdSense versus courses.
Fair game.
So courses?
Yeah, this point, courses.
Because here's the thing, I don't do very much brand deals.
So instead of promoting the brand deals, I'd rather mention my course here and there.
So how much is your course?
297.
I don't know, like $2.94.
That's a good price.
A real thing for a buck.
Yeah, you know what's funny?
The YouTube Creator Academy down below in the description is also...
Actually, we're going to do a coupon code.
How about that?
We'll do 100...
Ours will be 247 now.
Down below...
206.
Only in the description of this video, though.
So if you see it, all it lasts.
But, okay, so that's good.
So how much does that do just on the average month?
probably around like 80 to 100
1000
what
that's
dude
I'm like
my
my program numbers are
I don't want to say a fraction of that
say it he said it
how much is it like 30 to 50
you're probably making
50 yeah 30 40 45 50 50 50
50 max
30 to 40 30 to 40
30 to 40
How do you do so much?
Is it just the Shopify niche, drop-shipping niche?
Thing is, the video where I dropped my course, it actually ended up doing very well,
and it's still getting views to this day.
So I think a majority of it came from one video.
A hundred a month.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, I'm still trying to wrap my mind around this.
How often do you pitch it?
Only when I make, like, a drop-shipping video, which nowadays isn't that frequent.
So, but, like, once a month?
if that
and how do you sell it
are you just like hey guys down below
the description 297
if you want it you can buy it
like I don't push it
okay but I'm trying to
think of itself is what you're saying
how do you do so much
how do you so much without
because I never mention it
and I think like 30 to 40
000 a month is how much it'll make
without me really mentioning it just from
putting it in the description
I don't want to mention it too much because I'm
than people just were like, oh, he's trying to sell us something.
So I'm like, it's there if you want it.
Do you offer like sales or things on top of that?
I only threaten to increase the price of like too many people get in.
I've never had a sale and it never will.
That's incredible.
I mean, I want to be like as fair as possible.
But that's all much money.
But you're doing all you're doing the anti sales of everything.
Because what I've done is basically all do a big sale maybe twice a year.
where for 24 hours, sometimes 48, I'll drop the price.
And that's it.
And for 28 hours, those do well.
But I don't do those too often because then I feel like it devalues the, yeah.
Walmart has sales.
Does Louis Vuitton, Gucci, Apple have sales?
So, yeah.
So, yeah.
It's fine.
It's fine.
It's fine.
Because this is what the podcast is all about.
Like we have these actual.
conversations here. So I started off selling my own program, no sales at all. I thought the same
thing as you. And then all of a sudden, I dropped the price by $100. Like, I think that day it made like
$10,000. It's like, wow, okay. So I get the value of a sale. So then I'm like, okay, well,
if I just do that every now and then it'll be fine. Yeah, but then it's not fair to the people who
paid full price. But those people who paid full price would have had to wait for that one moment. So
there is a value in getting something immediately versus waiting for like that black friday sale that
comes once a year um or waiting for like my birthday on april 22nd or i'll do the same thing
there's a value in getting something immediately yeah that's fair but i don't know so you so you just
mentioned it occasionally the full price how do you threaten to raise the price well i kind of did it
as like uh in the very first video i haven't done it since but i was going to
safe like way too many people joined in if we're talking because some of these course numbers like
with other people like 100k isn't like all that much per month so if i i figured if like a ridiculous
amount of people join in i would then have to just kind of up the bar a little bit the barrier to entry
and whatnot but what else do you give them because now i'm just curious this this is not by the way
an advertisement for the for the program um if that's again we got to get a cut of this you got to get a
kickbacking. I'm kidding.
I mean, no, yeah.
That's the thing, though, I don't really pitch anything else.
So I think because of that, like, there's a lot of, like, I don't dilute it.
Okay.
So I think there's a little bit of that other than Weble get your...
Interesting.
Get your three free stocks down below the street.
Yeah, but that's like a win-win for everybody.
Right.
Yeah, so.
But on the, okay, so on the course, I'm trying to think any other questions.
What else do you offer in the course?
Is it just, is it a pre-recorded program or do you offer support or like mentorship or what is it?
No, it was just a series of videos, basically like a camera over my shoulder as I run up one of my stores.
How long that take you to make?
I put in some work on that one.
Like the month before that, before releasing it, I was really like in the studio every day.
We're talking like a whole month.
So I did.
Yeah.
Probably.
Yeah, that was my worst month, honestly.
That is a month that was so, I don't want to say it was like traumatic.
Because that's like that.
No, but I deal you on that.
No, I took an entire December.
And that's when I made my YouTube Creator Academy.
An entire month where I was probably putting in 16, 17 hour days every single day for a full month.
And I kept up my posting schedule, didn't miss a single video.
And as soon as I was done with that, I'd be scripting out, editing, planning those videos.
It was horrible.
I didn't even go out the entire month.
I stayed inside for a full month to get that YouTube course done.
Yeah, that's the tricky part because you still got to do the upload schedule.
Right.
And then when I was done with it, it was.
it was the most like relieving
I had so much
it felt like I had so much free time
even I was still like work in like 10, 12 hour days
it's working that 12 hours
is like wow I have all this extra time now
it was weird
but that's it took such a toll on me mentally
that was like I'm so burnt out
and maybe that's my problem
I went too hard on that and it just
soured me from creating another one
I mean I haven't made one since so
yeah wow okay so besides that
then we got YouTube
how much we do it
Can I see your, all right, let's see, let's whip it out, man.
Can you screen record?
Yeah, of course.
All right, let's look at this together.
So we'll go to analytics.
Consistent, man.
Consistent views.
Look at those, I mean, the drops are just.
What is that for the 48 hours?
Wow, is that, okay, so very consistent.
$30,000.
So what did October do?
35.
Wow, fantastic.
Okay, 365.
So obviously you had a spike there.
Oh, that's when everyone started spiking on that.
That is just incredible lifetime.
Have you, you haven't crossed a mill yet?
That's just incredible.
Yeah, so for all of 2019, it was pretty, pretty low there.
Wow.
It's just 73,000.
One point six.
Great CPM.
That's the drop-chipping videos.
Wow.
There you go.
Thank you.
All right.
That's incredible.
I'm looking at this.
I'm just...
Gosh.
So we're at 1.30.
1.35-ish.
And then what else do you have?
You can't say Weble explicitly, but...
Yeah, you could just say affiliates, just like affiliates and other sponsors or...
You could just say in the rest of it's blank.
Well, I would normally have drop shipping.
So that would be a huge, like, another six figures.
I was really planning on scaling it up and seeing how far I can get it.
But because of the Rony Rona had to stop.
So normally that would be like...
Why do you have to stop?
It was the shipping times.
And it's, I'm shipping from China, so it's, that's where it originated.
So it's a little stuff.
Yeah, I really got to hop back on that.
I've just been slacking a little bit.
But normally that, and then I have, I'll do like a little brand deal here and there,
but that's usually very low, I don't know, average of like 2K a month.
Yeah, you're doing incredible.
I'm seriously blown away.
Thank you.
Honestly, your numbers are insane.
Your total monthly income on average, what would you?
I mean, it jumps up and down.
Got to be 150.
Lowest, probably, like, around 100.
Highest, 250.
My highest month ever.
The thing that's amazing is 19.
What do your parents think of this?
Do they know?
Do they know?
Oh, of course.
I mean, the whole world knows what the YouTube and whatnot.
Yeah, I do.
I mean, they're very supportive.
What do they think?
From the beginning, they were really supportive.
So shout out to my parents.
Mom, dad.
But what do they think?
Like,
I mean,
do,
yeah.
They saw the amount of work I put in.
You know,
every day I'm,
I'm on the clock.
So it's not even like that huge of a surprise
when I started pulling in like the drop shipping numbers because they saw what I was
doing like constantly.
Yeah,
but if I were a parent,
uh,
coming from another country and I see my like 17,
18 year old son all of a sudden making like 30 grand a month.
I'd be like, what is this?
Is this legal?
Like, you sure?
Well, I mean, the big thing they do tell me is because they're from the Soviet Union,
they experience, like, quite a few big inflation spikes.
So the one thing they keep hammering me is to, like, do something with the money, not keeping in cash.
Yeah.
What do they do for work?
Dad's like a truck driver.
Yeah.
Mom doesn't really work.
That's crazy.
You're like a one-man army as well.
Basically.
Wow.
So it's just you.
Even with the drop shipping orders, actually,
ended up there was like months is i i don't know i didn't want to go through vAs because i'm like
super sussed out about people finding out the product we're not taking it because it's an easy
business to replicate if you know the product if you know the ad so i'd even want to have v a so
there were months where i would just like wake up fill out orders go to sleep type of months
eventually i found software to do that for me so but yeah no no vAs i'm i'm sure i'm
literally blown away man i don't i i don't know if you fully under
understand like how impressed I am.
Well I mean it's it's relative right there's people my age making a lot more so
See I felt this I felt the same thing I was embarrassed to post you I see I swear I was embarrassed in the beginning to post YouTube videos
Because I'm like who would want to listen to me seriously and then I start posting like everyone like what is so good but I was like no but but this guy over here did it did it 10% better
It's it's surprising so you're used so you would say you're used to this now
I mean, I don't take it for granted, but I guess, I've come to terms with it.
It's insane how fast it works like that.
Like, it's one year of really high income like that used to it.
That's your new baseline.
My biggest fear, too.
Actually, I take that back.
This is not my biggest fear.
But what are my concerns is that you get so used to a certain level of income that if something were to happen or go down,
it would be so hard to rewire my mind for any sort of like,
I don't want to say normal work,
but anything that wouldn't pay as much as I'm making now.
Like it just,
it skews your perspective of how much something really is.
Yeah, but I mean,
I low-key wouldn't mind like a regular job.
It is what it is, you know.
Yeah.
I could target or whatever.
I actually photoshopped my face onto the target.
I worked at JCPenney.
Oh my gosh.
Gosh, wow.
The truth comes out.
Yeah.
We're talking about the thumbnail.
Yeah.
Wow.
J.C. Penny.
So, okay, so you're making a lot.
Obviously, we got to talk about this one.
What do you think about the parents living with the parents now, knowing he's making that much?
Well, I had a feeling it was at least going to be, I had a feeling it was at minimum
going to be like 70.
So, like, honestly, the difference, like, between 70 and 150, they're both a lot of money.
I think the same thing.
I think it's just as impressive.
You're able to save a lot.
I think the benefit for you staying with your parents is just to avoid lifestyle inflation for just that much longer.
You're never going to be able to go back to that again.
You have a good relationship with them.
It's not holding you back.
Exactly.
You're good with your money.
They're supportive of you.
I don't see anything pushing you out at this point.
Yeah.
I mean, when I'm at home, I'm usually working.
And when I'm not at home, I'm not at home.
I would say the right time to move out is when you find that that begins to hinder you either socially or emotionally.
And you need that little push for independence and just like doing something on your own and having that sense of freedom.
Then I would do it.
But until you have that urge to be like, you start feeling antsy, I'd say keep it going.
Yeah.
Honestly, that's what I think.
Yeah, I respect that.
Let's talk about us.
Or you find a miss, be it.
He's a.
Is it a his up?
Is there one on the way?
Think about all the content opportunity that would open up.
We're talking.
Reaction videos.
Infinite monetization loop.
That's how I built my girlfriend, a store that makes.
Girlfriend tries day trading.
Girlfriend tries drop shipping.
My girlfriend bought my course and is now making 50K a month.
Wow.
You know what?
I noticed what's his name, Project Life Mastery.
Did that with him and his girlfriend, Tatiana.
James, Project Life Mastery and his girlfriend, Tatiana.
Maybe she's a fiancé now.
but yeah
put her in the thumbnail
and it got like three times
all of his normal views
genius yeah
I'm sleeping on a bag of here
you could just like copy your face
and throw some long hair
on the Snapchat filter
yeah something like that would be
that would be funny
I got a viral video idea
teaching a tint
teaching my Tinder date
how to start a Shopify store
that is genius man
try out this that content
teaching my Tinder date
how to trade for
I feel like that'd be hard to convince someone, though, for the video.
A girl?
Like someone who wants to be on the video?
Girls out there.
You're in Sacramento?
Women?
The 916.
19.
So if you're around the area and you want to potentially be in a video, we'll put your
Instagram down the one in the description.
We can sign a mutually beneficial contract.
Make your word.
There you go.
So, okay.
Well, that's a, I, I don't, so, so there's no Miss Beahiza in the works right now.
It's just not at the moment.
Not in the moment.
Okay.
But you wouldn't be opposed.
I guess, yeah.
All right.
Okay.
So, we got the DMs.
The DMs are open.
Okay.
Okay.
I put you on the spot there.
Now, you're making a lot.
California.
Terrible.
All right.
What are your thoughts?
Well, with what you did moving out,
That's like a, I'm definitely considering it.
Because I mean, I could do what I'm doing from anywhere as well.
Yeah.
So would you move your parents?
I mean, it's up to them.
Because your dad's,
dad's a truck driver.
Mm-hmm.
Your mom doesn't work.
So your mom's easy.
If your dad's a truck drive,
I'd assume that would be pretty.
Yeah, the biggest obstacle, though,
was just like my whole family lives there,
all my friends, you know,
so it was just the social aspect of it.
I feel like moving to a whole new with the amount of money
that you're saving by just changing
states, you could probably buy them a home all your friends and like you could live in like
you could, yeah, you could pay your dad. I bet like the same as he's earning now and still save
money. True. I thought about it. With the amount I'd save from taxes, I mean, that's a free house.
Yeah. I would, I would strongly consider it. I've noticed a lot of people are moving to Las Vegas.
And so I'm actually moving in now, like I feel like I know more like finance people in.
Las Vegas now than I do in California in LA.
Las Vegas is a move?
Yeah.
It is.
I don't know.
With my history of options trading?
I don't know.
Las Vegas, all those casinos.
Do you have any other tax recommendations other than moving out?
Not that you just have to spend money.
Lambo?
Yeah.
That's the hard part with this is that you have to spend money.
Now there are smart ways you could spend money, but I've looked into, I've looked at so many options.
It was like, what can I do to improve the podcast?
or what can I do to improve the channel?
My biggest things that I, is better set.
So in Las Vegas, I'm putting a decent amount of money into, into a better set that's
just going to be better all around.
So I'm going to have more places to film from.
So I figured that's good money spent.
Everything else, it's like, sure you get a write off, but at what cost, even if it's 50%
off, buying things I don't need that are 50% off is still me spending 50%.
Like I thought getting a Tesla Model X would have been the best move to.
to make is you depreciate 100% of the car in the first year.
So if I buy that Tesla Model X for 100 grand in December,
it's a full $100,000 on a tax ride-off.
So that's like 53% off of that price of the car.
But do I need a Model X?
No.
So I'm still spending $40,000 on this car.
Yeah, but if you buy used and that car holds value
and you can deduct it and then sell it for the same price.
That's true.
But if I sell it at the same price, then you're supposed to
taxes on that.
True.
So then it kind of negates the whole thing and I get a car I don't really need.
So my recommendation is if you need things that you think will make you more money, spend it.
But if there's anything beyond that, it's tough, man.
I mean, I've been trying about the whole big computer screen, like try and build up
that studio, but it's only so much.
Yeah, you have an S corp, I take it.
You run everything for the drop shipping and then.
All right.
Okay, so that that's smart.
besides that honestly it's just moving out of state i have to well a joe rogan yeah be our neighbor
yeah i mean i got to do something like that yeah this this 50% thing not a fan yeah and i think i don't
know my my theory is that it's it's only going to get worse it has to get worse because they have
to pay for things stuff yeah now's the time huh so i would say now is now is the opportunity move your
family you don't have to get some mega place 500 grand in those locations and nice locations
goes a long way really even 750 yeah nothing beats that california climate and that i don't know
that's true i don't argue with you on that yeah like texas is just humid Nevada pretty hot
i don't think you're going to find anything too comparable so do you think that drop shipping is
still a viable option for people now because i know that a lot of
of people have hopped on the train and there's obviously like somewhat of a surplus of
drop shippers.
Are people still buying stuff online?
I feel like you just took the mic.
All right.
I mean, come on.
That's only growing.
It's a growing industry.
So you think it's still a viable option?
100%.
And do you think that one item stores or just stores that sell multiple items are a better deal?
Because I heard that recently one stop shops or one item stores are better.
Yeah, because you can do a lot more branding for that one product.
make it look a lot nicer if it's just the single product in the store, but that that makes it so that you can't test as many products when you're running that single product store.
Because you've got to put in a lot of time on that branding.
So yeah, it does a lot better, but what I would recommend is either one product store or niche stores.
So like you find a niche, you kind of do some branding around that niche.
And then you can test a bunch of products in that niche.
So it's like the best of both worlds.
And do you think anyone can do this?
Like realistically, or do you think that it's usually a younger age group?
I mean, I think it's a younger age group because younger people have more time, just free time.
So I think partly that's why you see so many younger people succeeding with it.
But it's also just being kind of a little bit tech savvy.
I mean, you've got to have some video editing skills, some Photoshop skills.
It's like you've got to wear a lot of hats, which I think a lot of younger people are more like that.
But yeah.
much time does it take?
Well,
setting it up, that's the
major time thing, but
then you also got to monitor it because
Facebook ads, I mean, it's a pain.
They're constantly shutting them off. You've got to
manually approve them. You've got to do
all kinds of things. So it's usually
just that most of the time in the beginning
and then just kind of got to check in on it every
single day. And then also,
depending on how you fulfill the orders, like,
I don't know, 30 minutes today. If you have it automated, it could be
like.
Yeah.
How much are you spending on Facebook ads?
Oh, I actually slept on a huge bag with the Facebook ads
because I was spending like hundreds, well, not hundreds,
but like over 100K, and I like my peak on Facebook ads per month,
and I didn't put it on a credit card.
Ooh.
I really could have had some nice free travel.
How many credit cards do you have?
I think three or four.
What's your credit score?
We can look it out.
That's like our guy.
Go-to question.
Yeah, I know.
I have a list of just question, like, go through them.
Is that like a private thing?
I feel like that's the least.
What?
Credit score?
Yeah.
No, no, no, no.
I'll tell you mine.
It's like 700.
No, we're laughing because we ask everybody this question.
Yeah.
It's the standard go-to Graham, Stephen, what's the credit score?
Sitting at a cool 757 at the moment.
Okay, that's good.
It's reasonable.
And which credit cards do you have?
What's your top credit card?
Got the Amex platy
Okay
It's a business
Amex Platin a business
For the personal
I should be owned
For my business
But then what about the other
What are the ones?
I just have a regular cash rewards
Bank of America Visa
Okay
And then an Apple card
Except the city double cash
You gotta get the city double cash
Yeah that's a really good one
Transactions like that
Yeah
For the business
Yeah I mean it would be good for
I don't know if they
I don't know if they do a business
I don't know if they do a business
Look and do it
I actually don't know that one
But if you can
Potentially
If you can
get 2% back on that.
That would.
Wow.
Look into that one.
I should have done it with Amex.
Got a bunch of travel points at that point.
Yeah.
Amex would be really smart to use if you're going to transfer those to a partner
and then book some trips with them.
Like I used Aeroplan back when I could travel.
I would use AeroPlan to go to Canada.
And what was it?
25,000 points would get me a round trip plane ticket to
Toronto and back.
25,000 points.
How much you have to spend
to get that? 25. It depends on what I was
spending, but I'd usually use the sign-up bonus. So the sign-up
bonus, I get like 60,000 points on that. So that
would be like 2.5 round-trip plane tickets.
And those tickets were worth about
400 on the low end to 6.50
in the high end. That's what I did with
a mix. That sign-on bonus.
Oh, yeah. And it pays for it. It does.
That's why I love credit cards, man. But lately,
there haven't been that many great sign-up bonuses
that are really worth taking.
The ones I see right now that Chase Freedom Flex,
you get $200 back when you spend $500 in the first three months.
That's a good starter one for a lot of people to do.
Let's also talk about spending a little bit because you're 19 years old, right?
You're making a lot of money.
Any 19 year old in your position, well, I'd say 99% of them would probably be out
buying, you know, a Tesla, buying a Rari, you know, a few nice homes.
What do you spend your money on?
What percentage of it is business versus personal?
would you consider yourself frugal?
Well, yeah, definitely frugal,
but when it comes to the cars,
I do have some cars,
but they're tax deductions.
Okay, what cars?
What business?
You recently picked up a, didn't you?
What is it?
Let's talk about it.
I don't know.
I don't know what it is.
What is it?
I got a G-Wagon, but here's a thing.
Hear me out.
Okay.
Full tax deduction.
I got a good deal on it,
under market value.
How much is, how much that car way?
Like 7,000?
So that's the 179.
I didn't know you could do that with the G-Wagon.
Section 179.
Oh, no.
I didn't know you could do that.
That explains why there's so many G-wagons here in LA.
Like all these celebrities are taking deductions.
If I use, get a good deal.
And they hold value really well.
They do.
Because they don't change the body.
I've seen some of these cars, like a 2004 Mercedes G-Wagon, 30 grand.
They don't drop below like 25, ever.
It's like they're all 30 to 50.
Yeah.
What did you pick yours up for?
With tax, it was around 80.
it was around 80 because it was one of the newer ones so okay and why a g-wagon well for the
because it holds its value really nice and I can tax deduct it why not a model X?
Monolex wood test what what Tesla do you have I have the model three
why do you need another car marketing expense I have a wrapped well how do you market that
well I have my personal branding I have yeah I have my wrap on there yeah
It's complete the company use, so company vehicle.
So do you park it in front of your house and people drive by your neighbors see it?
Basically.
Fair game.
So you have a G-wagon.
You also have a Model 3.
Do you have any other cars?
Yeah.
Graham is like, this is the plate crashing.
You can't drive all these cars.
It's like, okay, anyway.
This was like the first one I got for.
tax purposes back in like end of 2019 because I really had no deductions. So I got a Toyota
forerner. I mean, it's nice and reliable, holds its value. So those are your three cars? Yeah.
What's your daily driver? Probably the Tesla for business use. The business trip to the grocery
store. I'm kidding, you can cut that out. To go to Applebee's meeting by yourself. Hey, it's on the road.
You can see the rap. It's a network and Applebee's market Applebee's.
I get that.
No, that's, that's, that's fun.
It's smart to wrap the car like that.
Wow, dude.
I mean, you deserve it.
Yeah, you deserve it.
You can afford it.
You could afford it.
Yeah, if you could buy any car, though, would you, any desire to do like a, like a Ferrari or a Lamborghini?
I'd get a maybe a Lambo, but like, I'd have to be set set to get one of those.
Like, that would have to be like nothing.
I feel like you are, though.
You're talking about, you're talking about spending one month of your income on a used
let's say Huracon, that is not really going to go down
a value that much. You're going to be out the sales tax, which in
Nevada, by the way, there is no sales tax and used
private party car purchases in the state. So you wouldn't have to pay any
sales tax on that. Am I hearing this right? Ram, Stefan, is trying to encourage
me to buy a Lambo. I'm just saying. I actually disagree with you.
I'm going to err on the side of being more frugal. I know it's very rare. I say
don't buy a lambas. You have three cars. I mean, maybe if I sold all of them
possibly, but I were 19.
Yeah.
If I were 19, the Lamborghini is it.
I wrap it.
Yeah.
I have, it's...
Man.
I mean, the thing is, there is an appeal of being like 19, 20, 21 with a car like that.
It's not the same when you hit 30.
It's just, it's different when you're younger.
You're so right.
You're so right.
And you don't want me to get a Tesla.
No, I don't.
Okay.
Nobody wants me to get a Tesla.
I know.
Okay.
The only person that's advised is my accountant.
Okay.
She said, you know, Jack, you, you got.
to have a write-off. You need a write-off next year, though. I have nothing to write-off. Literally
have no ride-offs whatsoever. And she says, I need something. She's like, are you thinking about
getting a car? And I was like, well, I want to Tesla extremely badly. I always have. It's the only
thing I would splurge my money on. The only thing, I don't care about anything else fancy.
Close, I don't care. Everything's free, right? A Tesla. That's all I want. But, but, but I can't
justify it. I can't do it. Well, also, you're going to make more money next year.
you're going to be in a much higher tax bracket next year.
So whatever you do next year is worth more money than what you do this year.
That's very true.
So.
I mean,
you're trying to save up for that rental property stuff.
Yeah.
So I didn't buy like the cars prior to getting into rental properties and whatnot.
So that was like after.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm thinking I got to get a rental property that will pay for the Tesla first.
Yeah.
If you can get enough assets to go and pay for the car and then the car's paid for by your
investments, then that's a different story.
Hmm.
It's got to happen at some point.
I'm doing the exact same thing that you said you used to do,
which is like you want to buy something,
but then you think about creating a new income source that will pay for it.
And I've been doing that over and over, right?
And I'm just trying to figure out what's my next thing.
But I just still cannot justify it.
No, not yet.
What are you trying to get at?
What kind?
Model 3.
I couldn't justify spending any more than that amount of money on it.
For a game.
Yeah.
You're living the dream, dude.
Would I wrap it?
No.
Taxi dexterity.
No, I can't spend money like that.
That's needlessly spending more.
I wrapped it. I think it was a great choice to wrap the car.
You got it for free.
No, I paid for the cost.
Oh, okay.
Oh, I've been talking about like company wraps, by the way.
Yeah, yeah, like your face on it or something.
Well, yeah, like the name of the business.
I don't mean like what's satin black, yeah.
The splurging you did out there.
What's out there?
On your Tesla.
There's a different satin rap, yeah.
Right, but there's a difference between that rap and like Kevin.
No, no, no, no, no.
To have the satin black with the acid green calipers and emblems that makes
the car more recognizable.
A little suss.
It's...
I don't know.
All I'm saying is I have it in nice, clean, big letters, so...
I think...
It justifies everything.
Clean letters.
But I think you're doing incredibly well.
Bravo.
Million times.
So what else is there?
Is there anywhere you waste money?
Watches.
Not watches.
You don't like watches?
What's wrong with watches?
My phone.
What are your...
Reflexing over there a little rolly.
No, it's a lot.
I don't even know what that means.
I'd say where I spend my money is like hobbies.
So like snowboarding, my own biking, doing those kinds of trips and whatnot.
That's where.
That's the relatability factor.
That's it.
That's it.
I agree.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I'm just into all that like surfing type of stuff.
So that's where I spend it.
I'll splurge a little on getting some nice gear.
whatnot but so you're like a 19 year old with a passion for like all these different like hobbies
and stuff like that but you basically get yourself the nicest stuff in these hobbies yeah i mean
growing up it was always like wear me downs thirps shop type stuff but now i got some money you know
i'm gonna spend it on some nice gear that's incredible i have nothing bad to say i mean that's the thing
like i'm trying to find one one thing to criticize well you could criticize the cars i did a little bit
um i mean yeah you could afford it i would just i just think that the gwag
holds its value.
You could do worse.
But I guess you could do worse.
I don't know.
I would have just picked a model X,
but it doesn't matter.
At this point,
we're trying to find something.
We're trying to find something
and we're like struggling
to find any sort of critique.
It's all good.
We make it a nice experience for our guests here.
We try to find out of these things.
We're like investigators.
Yeah.
Like what, we can't talk.
No, I think he's amazing.
Everything.
Everything is.
is I would say almost perfect.
I try my best.
It's been a real blessing.
How much do you work?
Like, do you work a lot?
Oh, that's a good question.
Do you have a lot of free time?
Because you only post once a week.
You skipped today.
That's an issue.
That gave Graham a little bit of a panic attack.
I'll bounce back.
I was doing drop shipping and YouTube just full time.
I mean, that was mad stressful.
Like, we're talking a whole lot of work.
But nowadays that I'm just mainly focusing on YouTube,
slowly getting to the drop shipping, it's not that much.
I mean, it's a lot of mental work.
That's the thing.
It's like not about even the hours I'm actually working.
It's about the thinking.
It depends what you describe as work.
Because if I'm brainstorming ideas, you know, I'm just sitting there,
but I'm still using my brain and I'm working.
So how many hours a day?
Right now.
Yeah.
Probably around five, six.
What's your schedule usually like?
Like, what time do you wake up?
What time do you get to bed?
lately I've been waking up nice and early like 6 a.m.
For all the day trading videos I've been doing.
So that's actually pushed me to wake up early, which is nice.
But yeah, wake up around 6 a.m.
Get everything out of the way and then have the day free.
Oh, my God.
See, I don't, like my mind doesn't even comprehend that anymore.
Because most of our, most of my days are like, start around 6 to 6.30.
Usually will end anywhere between 5.3.
30 the earliest to about eight.
That's why you're at.
Two million subs and I'm not.
Yeah.
Is it two and a half?
Crazy.
Wow.
Yeah, we were trying to get out.
We were talking about this a little bit earlier.
You didn't post today.
And I said, that would, that wouldn't, that would give me so much anxiety.
Like, I would, I would panic the day before if I knew, like, I have no video to post.
I would be up all night.
I'd wake up the first thing in the morning.
I would go without sleep the entire day just to get a video out.
And I mentioned to you, I said, once you start getting in the habit of, like,
letting those little things slide and not holding yourself accountable to it,
it becomes that much harder to keep the momentum.
And that's one of the reasons why I refuse to miss an upload.
Every day, there's got to be a new video posted.
And barring some huge event or, like, something happens to a video last minute,
or like something unforeseen, I will have a video ready every single day.
And it's a promise I could make to everyone.
Because I know you miss one.
Yeah, that's the thing.
That's what I was going to get into.
That's where all were wrong.
Yeah.
Missed one video and then the second time, it's like,
it's not as bad.
It's not as bad because you give yourself that permission to be like,
okay, nothing bad happened.
I could do it again.
And that's the danger.
It's not so much in like taking it a few,
like taking a week off or taking a day here.
It's not the actual act of that.
It's just mentally what excuse that gives you to then continue that for it.
But then again, to play devil's advocate,
how happy are you right now with?
your life, with your work schedule.
Do you think that you found a good balance?
Would you like to work more if that meant making more money?
Or are you content?
I mean, I'm pretty good.
If I could keep making what I'm making right now, I mean, that'd be great, you know.
But I feel like with YouTube, you either keep growing or you die.
Yeah.
Like if you're not growing, your channel is slowly dying.
So after seeing the kind of operation you guys have running here with what I saw during that
upload, I really got up my game.
He's the one of the very few people that have actually experienced.
That's true.
How many people have seen that?
one.
Are you really the first?
Well, no, maybe, no, not Jeremy.
Uh-uh.
He was here during a posting time of a bad post.
These are really stressful times, yeah.
All the holes in the wall, it's ridiculous.
Oh, we notice.
A broken TVs, yeah.
Oh, man.
Yeah, no, we are very analytical with everything on YouTube.
We brainstormed probably about an hour for title and thumbnail.
Sometimes multiple hours, we'll just go into a title and a thumbnail.
Like what you see is just come up as a little notification.
There's like hours spent.
Sometimes like a day has spent on that video,
just on that title that you see.
And then we analyze like,
how many views did that get in the first three minutes?
How many views from the notification going out?
Is that good?
How does it compare to every other video we post
in the last like a few months?
Then what's the retention?
Are people dropping off after like five minutes?
Or is the issue in that?
Is it a discrepancy?
Is the thumbnail that is not getting people to click through?
If we see after 15 minutes,
it didn't hit, change the title.
We see after 30 minutes, it's not doing so well,
looking to changing thumbnail or title.
I mean, it's...
I've honestly learned a lot.
Yeah.
Just watching that.
I feel like leaving here will be a new man.
Good.
I don't want to say expect two.
Two uploads a week?
Expect two uploads a week every month.
Every Monday and Thursday.
You can do it.
You can do it.
You can do it.
Consistently once a week.
The crazy thing is this.
Once you get in the habit of doing that,
you're going to realize, like,
how did I ever not do that?
And the crazy thing for me, too, is for a while, this was for almost a year before you came on in March, right?
I was doing many weeks of editing and filming and editing and posting myself seven videos a week.
Jack would do edit the phone calls, but some weeks there were no phone calls for that.
And I would post a video a day myself, just me, filming the main channel three times a week,
filming the second channel, four times a week, editing all of it.
I somehow managed to do it.
And now I got to, now when Jack is doing the editing for the second channel, the quality
went up on the second channel.
But now I'm finding myself, I'm just as busy.
He's finding more and more work for me to do as well.
Like suddenly, suddenly, Grammy needs me to do like a little bit of this.
And then like, I'm like, okay, I'll do this.
And then I get used to doing that.
So I'm like, okay, I'm okay, I'm okay, I'm okay, I'm okay, I'm okay, I'm okay,
then a little bit of this.
He's like, it's like you give him an inch.
You take some mile, right?
Like, all of a sudden, but every posting day, I'm commenting on the ice coffee hour
on the main channel.
But we used to do that together
to begin with.
But we didn't do it before it.
We were commenting on the same channel.
Right, but we weren't before.
And then we started doing that.
And that was the new normal.
But then all of a sudden that it booted me off.
So we kind of had to do that.
Yeah.
We were both commenting on the same.
So maybe.
Okay.
So we'll just spill the beans here.
So we were both logged into my account,
the Graham-Stefahan account.
And we'd sit next to each other on computers,
just answering away comments.
And we would, and we would be,
Remember we'd be like, so fast.
We'd be like refresh because we didn't want to hit the same comments.
So we would take turns refreshing.
So Jack's like refresh.
Okay, perfect.
I'll wait like 30 seconds.
Then I'll refresh.
And we take turns.
It was like not exposed.
It was methodic.
Yeah, but we commented so much that YouTube banned us from commenting for like 24 hours.
Happened twice.
It happened twice.
We got through that.
We're like, okay, Jack, comment on the second channel.
We learned our lesson.
Yeah.
So now I'm a commenter on the, it's the ice coffee.
Yeah.
So the people will know when it's the ice, because I was a little confused because I've seen comments from one of the channels.
You know, it's a toss.
It's a toss.
Yeah, there was me.
But then I also sometimes comment on the ice coffee hour.
So it could be both of us.
And I have commented on his channel a couple of times as well.
Basically, we'll never know.
You never know which comment.
We're the same person at this point.
Jack's me.
So.
But yeah, it's very methodical.
But yeah, it's just crazy how you get used to something.
And that's the normal.
And then as I skilled back on editing, I'm just as busy.
and now I can't imagine like how did I do all of that work in the past?
You're probably just spending more time on the things that mean more for the channel.
That's like specialization, you know?
That's true.
I've been able to dedicate a lot more time to the main channel.
Do you think me, Kevin is used to uploading 10 videos a day?
Yes.
Yeah.
Wow.
Yeah, I remember.
I respect what you guys do with all those uploads.
That's crazy.
Kevin used to post once a week.
He would take the entire week to make a video and he was like just, his whole schedule is so busy.
Now that he's doing multiple a day
We had to talk about this
So like he had no idea how easy
He had it doing one a week
When back then it was huge busy
So it goes to show you whatever you start doing
You'll just get used to that within like a month
100% when I mean
When I mean Kevin was doing one video a week
We were like the same amount of subscribers
As soon as he started he just skyrocketed
Oh yeah
And I remember when he started doing one a day
And I was like dude Kevin you might start getting burnt out from that
I remember I told Kevin you'd get burnt out
I give him that.
I was wrong.
Are you burnt out?
Some days, I would say there's probably one day a week.
I have a bad day.
And it's just, I'm, well, I get frustrated because I feel like there's nothing, there's
not a new path for me to do.
And so I feel like I don't want to remake the same things.
I want to make it different.
I know people like certain topics, but I'm just not in the mood to do that.
And I figure, like, there needs to be a bit of an evolution of me as a person to continue
expanding. And sometimes it's like if you stay in the same spot, you just, I get frustrated and
feel like I'm just stagnated. Like, what's the next step? It's not clear. So one day a week that
happens to me. But I'll push through it. Where does it end? Are you ever going to like cool off a
little bit? I'm sure it's, I'm sure at some point. I'm sure at some point because I've always
just as uncomfortable for you to detach yourself. Maybe in the beginning, but then you'll probably
get used to that as well. Probably. I, I, I, I'm sure.
I've noticed, though, like, even when I was working as an agent, I would go through these phases of, like, three years where I'd work nonstop.
And then I go through a year of just, like, taking a little bit, like, take a bit of a backstep on it and just enjoy myself a little more.
And then I get back into it.
I don't know if that'll happen on YouTube, because YouTube is so, like, algorithm-based that, like, you continue building on that momentum.
My thought is, I'm going to, I want to keep it as long as I can.
And then when I get to a point where I can't do it anymore, because I just feel like I've had enough, that's the problem.
that's the point where I'm going to start to scale back
or just maybe take a different
maybe put more effort into second channel podcast
maybe start doing that we want to do
like a Dr. Phil meets Judge Judy
sort of thing where I could interrogate people
for their finances. That I think
is probably the next logical step
here. You're already kind of doing that with a podcast.
Right, but I want to build out
the whole studio. Yeah. Like he wants a
full on. I want to be like a high chair
above everyone else. I'm going to build this out in Las Vegas
with a Tesla roadster
in the background and guys are
spending too much money.
That's what I want to do.
I have a full on show type of thing.
I want to do, yeah.
I really look up to like Joe Rogan, Dave Ramsey,
Judge Judy,
um,
and Dr.
Phil.
I just want to blend all of those into my own show.
I mean,
I feel like you're easily,
if you haven't already surpassed a Ramsey
in terms of relevance and whatnot.
I think about all the kids growing up watching you right now.
Yeah.
I want to do it.
Yeah.
That I feel like is the next logical step at some point.
is turning that into its own thing.
And then I want to get into like the whole like investing like,
I love Shark Tank.
I don't want to copy them.
But I want to hear other like get pitched other ideas.
Mars did a series like that.
Do you see that?
No, I did.
They did one where like they did their own shark tank with El Presidante there.
It was great.
You should definitely do something like that.
Yeah.
So that's all for the Vegas studio.
But that's I think the next direction.
Because yeah,
I think realistically I can't just keep doing three like main channel videos every week
forever.
So there's got to be an evolution on that.
I'm saving this.
This is big.
I think, is that camera stolen?
Yeah, it is.
It is.
So this is big.
I almost forgot about this.
Officially, starting up my own coffee company.
Wow.
Yeah, I can't tell you the name because we're registering it,
making sure everything is good to go.
This is the sample that was just sent to me of our coffee.
We got a few samples in here that I'm going to be taste testing over the weekend.
and then I'm going to be getting back to pick the right blend
that we're going to be selling for the coffee.
So this is all going to start here.
Now, the first order, I think we're going to get like 2,500 units,
and basically I'm just going to sell these as a break-even,
just to get people's opinion.
So I'm not making any money on this in the beginning.
I mean, this is going to be, frankly, it's going to be at a loss
just to get this coffee out to people.
But by doing that, we're going to be able to get a good sample size
of what people think of this coffee.
But it is confirmed.
It is happening.
It's literally in baggies.
It's a little suss.
This is...
This is...
You know, that's coffee, man?
You're buying, man.
This is cheaper to ship.
So our whole thing is we want to ship out
really the best quality
coffee that you could get
at the best price,
even if that means, like,
there's not going to be, like,
fancy packaging or anything.
I mean, really,
it's about saving as much money as possible
and getting you a really good product.
So I don't want to reveal
too much about this,
but here's one sample.
We got...
It's called...
what's that called
Rasputa blend
I don't know
Roberta blend I don't know what that is
it smells really good
Then we got this one we got
We got an everyday blend
We're drinking a lot of coffee
And then we got a Brazilian
Smells so good
And then we got a
Robusta
So there we go
This is the very start of the coffee bread
So I have no idea where this is going to go.
I've never done anything like this before, but I partnered up with a really great person.
His name is Noel.
And he runs a company that does a lot of these sort of packages and marketing.
But of course, yeah, this is the start of the brand new coffee coming.
I think it's cool to be like it's just started here in the dining room.
And unfortunately, I don't have any links where you guys can get this.
It's just I'll make a video whenever it's ready.
I think there's only going to be 2,000 units of these.
And just it's going to be a test run.
See how it goes.
That's it.
We're not making any money on this.
Probably in the first year.
I mean, this is going to be at a loss.
But I've never done anything like this.
So I'm kind of nervous.
I'm excited about it.
This is maybe a next step.
So what's the goal?
Are you trying to be in like Walmart's targets?
No, we're just going to be doing this ourselves online.
So I don't want to give too much information out because at this point,
I just don't want the concept to be copied.
but I'll tell you after this.
I mean, you might be hearing from Emma Chamberlain's lawyer.
No, it's going to be, I don't know, anyway, you'll see what it's going to be.
No, I'm excited. I'll definitely buy so.
Cool.
I don't know if there's anything else left that we need to.
Probably just outro.
Yeah.
Cool.
Anything else?
You want to say any final words?
I mean, we went over pretty much everything.
I'd like to have you back at some point.
I think, yeah.
You've got to come for a weekend so we can go surfing.
Yeah.
I'm down.
That'd be great.
Yeah.
I'm not that we didn't get to do it this time.
You know what?
I mean, honestly, any, anytime you want to come down, we'll coordinate for a weekend.
Just do it.
All right.
Cool.
Thanks so much for coming on.
Thank you.
It was amazing meeting you.
You're doing truly incredibly the 19 year old.
Yeah, as an any year old.
Honestly.
As an any year old.
That's a human.
You're doing really good as a person.
Yeah.
Thank you.
I mean, it's a huge honor.
Thanks for having you.
Is that fine?
That one.
Yeah.
I was going to say it's a huge honor being here.
I mean, we're talking coming from
commenting under your videos, being on the podcast.
Wow.
I think it, I think it would be cool if you made like, just, just told that story.
I think it's wild, man.
I mean, I just told it.
I know, but from your perspective, like that, just to, just to, but again, do it again.
But seriously, like, even you watching this, like, commenting on the video, sometimes you never
know where that's going to lead.
And that's how I got started.
Like, I just trying to get the comments up.
I'm trying.
Yeah.
Same here.
Yeah.
right oh yeah jack too
there was an email
jack just sent me an email and now he's here
so it just goes
sometimes in life you never know
where something might lead even just
something as what you might think is just
a comment or an email or a DM
or getting three free stocks down below
in the description for webel
sometimes you never
sometimes you never know where it might lead
or starting up a coffee cup
maybe this is a huge failure or maybe
it's the next 100 million dollar coffee brand
I don't know well we'll overtake
Starbucks with this. Who knows? So thank you everyone so much for watching. Thank you for coming on. He flew down from
Sacramento just for the day. We literally had no time. He arrived. He arrived here and then we did the very
stressful upload and then immediately came right up here to film this and we're leaving the second after we
turn on these cameras. When the iced coffee hour calls you, you got to pick up. That's it. Thank you so much
for doing this man. Seriously, thank you. This is, this is, I'm blown away at what you've done.
And seriously.
You all are not doing good things to my ego.
now yeah no congratulations all right thank you get the Lamborghini thanks for coming
yeah yeah if you guys want Vlad Biaheza back on comment down below because we
would love to have them back on you got to come back on hear more about his
backstory and everything I mean that's truly incredible go ahead and comment thank you
so much for watching I'll do the little thing I do in my videos hope you guys have a great
rest of your day peace peace and then you got to do the little in the little transition
where the circle closes on it
on the peace sign in post
in post yeah
all right cool
sub to him
add him on Instagram
getting up too fast
I don't want you guys to be late to the airport
ready to lay down a beat
knock it out
oh shoot what episode is this and how much money have we made
I don't know
I'm sorry Graham
26 ever episode of the ice squashy
14,000 14,900
and make sure to say 26 ever
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