The Iced Coffee Hour - Confronting Michael Reeves | Exposing His $0 Portfolio

Episode Date: April 4, 2022

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Say subscribe. To subscribe. No, no, like, hold on. Let me say it. Hey, guys. So before you subscribe, we want to give you a warning that there are some bad words in this episode that were said somewhat frequently, and we've done our best to limit those words, but there's a few that have slipped.

So anyway, just a warning. If you're sensitive to that stuff, still subscribe and enjoy. Hello, welcome back to the Ice Coffee Hour. I'm Michael Reeves. And to date, this podcast, the Ice Coffee Hour, has made over seven. $100. It's actually is true. That's correct.

And a fantastic guess. Yeah. 186,000, $270. And $81. Wow, that's really good. Yeah. So. So, it's no big deal.

That is over $700. Yeah, it is. Well, we're very excited to have you come all the way to Las Vegas to come visit with us. The little segment for your video. And it's been, it's been over a year. Not over. Really? But it's approaching.

Yeah, approaching a year. So, a year ago we met for the first time. We filmed a video together where I went through your finances. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You shared how much. Over a year ago. Yeah. Yeah.

You shared how much money you made and what you were spending it on. You really didn't spend a lot of money. No. But you invested a lot in Simon Property Group. I did do that. Yeah. Yeah. But recently you gave me a whammy here that you sold everything.

I sold everything. Yeah. So Michael sold everything. When did you? Well, we'll get to that. We got it. hook the viewer, right after, by the way, you subscribe. Because we look through, and apparently we've been not asking to subscribe enough.

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And Michael, for those who don't know you, you make, like, you post once a year, but your one video a year is, like, the best video of the year. Like they're all these just like incredible concepts that you'll spend like 10 months making with robotics, just weird stuff and tasers or or sometimes urine. You'll incorporate into the videos. Yeah, urine's part of my inspiration. Yeah, if someone asks what you do, how do you describe that? I lie usually. Okay.

I usually lie. Like if it's someone who doesn't know what I do, I'll lie. And I say I'm in, I do computers. And I'll just fucking leave it at that. Because it's like how, I don't know how to explain what I actually do. Like, yeah. Like, YouTube make robot go fast. Yeah.

But you come up with these ideas. Like, yours was trying to get one of those $80,000 robots to pee beer. Yeah, into a cup. Yeah, into a cup. And to aim it and to, like, pee into the cup. Yeah. But then what was surprising to me is that on top of all of that, you actually made a road trip to the headquarters to have the dog pee on the headquarters.

Yeah. How do you come up with those ideas and like, where does that all start? Illness. Okay. The frontal lobe chemical imbalance. Yeah. Yeah. That one was fucked.

That one I was just like, this video is not able to end in a funny way. I wanted to just drive. Also, I was watching a lot of, you guys ever watch all gas, no breaks, formally? Yeah, of course. Yeah, I love that. Yeah. I just watched a Vice video where they did an interview with him. And he was like talking about his like life on the road.

Now he's like fucking all over the United States. And I was like, that sounds sick. That sounds flipping epic. And so I was like, I want to drive across the United States someday. And it just happened to line up really well. I was like, I remember it was like really late in the night. It was like 4 a.m. or something. And I was like doing that video.

And I was like, how do I end it? And I like scribbled in my notebook. I just wrote Boston question mark. And it was like, I know I got to go to Boston to do that. Yeah. Also, they, like, wouldn't sell me the dog originally, so I was mad at them, and that's why I had a piss on there. What do you mean they wouldn't say? Well, they didn't offer it, like, they wouldn't offer it to the public.

It was only for, like, testing in industrial sectors and stuff at first. So they just, like, literally wouldn't sell it to me, which sucked. I was going to make, like, a fake company and purchase it through that, but they ended up finally selling it to the public, but I was still mad. Wouldn't they know who you are? I mean, don't you have a person who could reach out and be like, hey, like, hey, wouldn't that? That would be incredible marketing for them as well? I don't think that's what they're going for. I don't think that's what they're going for.

I think they're going for it lives in an Amazon warehouse and never sees the sun. That's a customer demo for sure. Yeah. I don't think they wanted to be attacked. They did. I think they made a reference to the pissing. They made it pissed tequila or something. They did some kind of quirky reference, which is nice.

Yeah. I actually met a guy who, it's always fun to see like when I make a video and it talks heavily about like a company, how like that company reacts. I talked to randomly talk to like the nephew of someone who works at DaVinci Robotics. I made a video about like surgery. Yeah, a surgery robot. They apparently liked that one. They liked that.

I think Boston Dynamics liked it a lot less because I was more spiteful towards them, surely. Yeah. Yeah. You know, the reason the parking lot was empty was because I didn't plan it at all, but I got there like on a holiday, like Black Friday or something. And the whole fucking park, yeah, the whole parking lot was empty. Barron. Not a single soul there. Yeah, it was really, and the gates were open.

Yeah. So we just drove in and there was a security guard around, but we had a fucking Boston Dynamics robot dog at Boston Dynamics. They would have cooked anyone else out, but we had the dog and they're like, they obviously work here, clearly. You think that person got in trouble? The guy who just like let you in. He looked at us. He was like staring at us from like a hill and you're like, but he saw the dog and so he went away. Wow, okay.

But I have to say, you know, your rise on YouTube coming from like a college dorm room. I remember the video you did where you did like, what was it with an energy drink, right? You had the energy drink like try to spray at you. When I was in college, I did a laser eye thing. I did, it poked me in the eye with a laser. Right. So it was basically a laser pointer that would find your eye and then direct the laser to your eye. Yeah, that was sick.

How do you learn all this stuff? Well, that one was like, I'm like trying to learn. like facial detection and then it was like I also know how to make motors go and so it'd be like it was like interesting to make like it target what it's detecting and it was like it a really common thing that things detect is like your face or your eye so it's like that's fucking epic that one was like a side project because that was like the first video I ever made yeah so it was like a side project to like get away from working my job and going to college so that one was just for I mean they're all for funsies but that one was like a side project just a meme I also turned it in as an English report and I got a good grade huh you turned in that exact video and no the robot as oh the English project how is that I don't even what's the relationship correlation I don't even I stretched it so hard I remember bringing in a class and everyone was like ooh robot and that was like probably the selling point yeah but yeah I was in English and it was like do a project about this I it was something about like how I don't know something about finding a

goal and tracking it. I was like, I made this track your eye. And the English professor was like, yes, all right. It sounds good. It sounds like you made them separately, but you fell behind on the other one. You're like, how can I merge the two? That is exactly. I tried to turn it in for every class.

It's in front of it. Yeah, whoever will like take it as the result. Take it to Spanish class if you like, yeah. Yes, somehow. It can shine a laser in Spanish people's eyes too. Yeah. Oh, man. But how do you find an interest in that?

Like, where did this all start to, because like, I would, I would see that and be like, that's cool, but I couldn't, I couldn't figure out how to do it. Like, I wouldn't have enough interest to, like, see it through. I like, um, I started programming, like, as a way to not be homeless or any, or die. So I was graduating to high school. Bad grades wasn't good at much. So, just like program. I'll just pick something.

It was between like, I remember, like, I was like, I was like, I'll choose between, uh, programming, video editing and psychology. Because I liked all three. Yeah. As interests. Um, just want programming, because it's easier to learn online. So yeah, been doing that ever since. How'd you learn online? Do you go through one of those programs?

Yeah. No, no, not program. I like YouTube videos. I have a hard time like learning through books and learning in class. Because I really like to rewind. I don't learn super fast, so like I need to watch it like three times over. So like, you know, just have my finger on the backspace button and write it down. Yeah.

So did you actually learn programming to not be homeless or was that like... Well, like to like to like, to like, to like, To have a job after high school. Yeah, to have a job after high school and be able to do something. Yeah, because I really wasn't, like, I was failing most classes. I was not good at much things. Like, I think the only class I got above being was like a stat, was in stats. What were you doing then at that age other than school?

Video games, being epic, swagging. Got it, got it. Minecraft. Lots of Minecraft, lots of Smash brothers. Okay. Yeah, just live in life. Sometimes I just wouldn't go to class. It would be fun.

Dude, my high school was sweet. I would just sometimes when my parents wouldn't have work, I was able to drive to school. And so if I had the car, I would just go to the convenience store and get a Spanwisabia. And I'd just drive right past the school. And I'd go up into the mountain. It's a Holly Akala in Maui. I'd go to the mountain and I just fucking sit and look at the whole island and just eat my... Spanmus to be until like 10.

am and then I'd get to school and I just show up and they'd be like hey hello and like yeah so what's the how do you not get in trouble for doing that I think you we did eventually my class in high school was the shittiest class for I think in the 25 years the school has been in existence because there was never any late policy but my class was so late they made it so if you're late you get a detention and I ended the school year with over a hundred detentions There's more to life than finding the perfect car. But finding the perfect car can help you get the most out of life. Like the SUV that handles everything from drop off to off road

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I could do like stuff for teachers and they would take it off in bulk. Like, you know, they'd be like, I don't know. I changed the guy's RAM in his computer and he gives like, I'll take 10 off. It sounds like bribery. Sounds like bribery. It sounds like bribery. It really is. Slip him 100 and like get rid of the detention.

I was in band. And so I had. a, they had the library where they store all the music. I had like a sleeping bag behind some boxes and I would just go back there and flit for the school day. It was lit. It was so cool. No one gave a fuck my senior year.

Seniors could get away with a lot more because they're kind of over you and I kind of know that you're going to be gone pretty soon. And like, you know, especially last six months, they really just let anything slide. Yeah. They're like, yeah, they're not going to change now. Yeah. I bet you didn't know this. But for me in my senior year, I made a fake doctor's letterhead.

So I printed it off of Google. And I found like a real like info. But I said that I had a condition of sleep apnea that prevented me from getting a full night of sleep. Nice. And that that was the reason why I'd have to get to school at 10 a.m. Nice. And so I would I try, I actually turn this in and they never question it. They never called.

And they took that at face value. And so for most of my senior year, I would get to school at 10 or it was like 1030 because they had a 10, like a 30 minute like break or whatever. So 10.30. But then I also wanted to miss one day of school a week. So on top of that, I'd only go into school four days a week. And I did that my entire senior year, but I would go and work. Did your parents think anything of it? I don't think they knew.

I don't think they really knew. Because I would go in late, but I think I'd lied to my mom. I just said that my school starts at 10. My mom's like, yeah. Checked out. That says no. My dad knew, but he didn't do anything about it. I think it's more just like, you know, you're going to do what you want to do.

You shouldn't do that, but he was. Yeah. He was pretty good about it. But I wasn't like a bad, I was a bad student, but I didn't get in trouble. You didn't defy authority. I didn't get in trouble. Yeah. So like when I was skipping school, I'd go and like open up work.

Yeah. Open up the warehouse. Yeah. Usually when I would be ignoring school, it would be to like be learning programming. Yeah. And my parents were like mad at me for doing that. And we had like a counselor's meeting and they'd be like, you gotta stop doing this. This is, but you got to learn English.

And I was like, no, this is better. Yeah, so I would ignore other stuff to learn what I was doing. But you learned it on YouTube? Like, YouTube, yeah, YouTube's like the best. Dude, you can go on there and there's like a hundred-part series of just this random guy in India doing a full course on Java or C-sharp or Python. And it's all good quality stuff. Like the same stuff you learn in college, some stuff you learn. But how do you expect to graduate high school, it's just saying, and say, like, I've learned everything on YouTube.

Is, do they not check that like you went through like a program or anything? Or is it just like, I learned on YouTube? Like if you were doing an engineering job? Yeah. Well, like, they do care a lot less now because they know that you can just learn it from a computer. I mean, it's like computer stuff. It kind of makes sense you can learn it on a computer. Like you wouldn't want your doctor to be a YouTube taught doctor.

But, right? You want them to go to medical school. But like there's a lot of- Senior surgery robots. There's like a lot of people at like SpaceX and Tesla. Especially, like, those are some of the, like, more progressive companies. Like, the fan companies don't give a shit if you've been to college for programming. They just want to know what you can do and, like, see your portfolio.

That's part of why they have, like, such rigorous interview processes. Like, you have to know how to do a bunch of bullshit on a whiteboard. And that's annoying. But, like, it doesn't matter how you know how to do it. You just know how to do it. That's interesting. So did you actually end up getting a job in that after high school? Yeah, yeah.

I worked for the government of Hawaii for a bit. Little bits at the college on my island. Got it. Yeah. And when you were working for the government, I would imagine, there's got to be some, like, mischievous stuff you were doing on the side, or were you just, like, going in? Like, were you not changing to start on the back end?

I didn't have a lot of access. We had our own server. Okay. So we didn't have access to any other place, unfortunately. I feel like you would send out, like, mass email. of just like, you know, these memes or like something. You would do something in there. Okay, but you kept it pretty, pretty, you know.

I kept it pretty professional. Okay, you did. Keep it good, yeah. Okay. And like, I was such like a serious nerd in that job, too. I was like trying to do it really well. Okay. Yeah.

I remember like getting mad at the other people there who were like, who were going to college for it, but working on the project as well. So it was, yeah, that was an interesting time. And then I started working remote. as I started going to college, and I started hating it. So I started learning other stuff on the side, and that's why I made that laser eye robot. And did that video initially just take off,

or did it take a few videos? I don't know. I think it was just Reddit like the first one. So that was nice. Yeah. Yeah, it was fun. I remember going to work and being like, oh my God, it has 100 views.

This is fucking crazy. Yeah, I was flipping out. Because I posted it on Reddit as well on R-Sla-R-Sysh robots. We're a great sub-brida. Yeah. But why do you quit your job? I know you hated it, but wasn't it like good money? I didn't quit it for a while.

Yeah. I still do random stuff. I tried to do random stuff on the side. It wasn't that good of money because it's like the government of Hawaii and Maui especially is like does not invest in their IT infrastructure a lot. So, yeah, they were asking a lot. And also they scam the shit out of me. My boss definitely like underpaid me because I didn't have the degree.

But I was doing more than the business. people who did have the degree. That's crazy. Yeah. How did you find out about that? Someone told me. Yeah. Yeah.

And I was like, that's not right. Also, at some point I worked like, that was my first 100 hour work week was on that project. And they did not pay like, they couldn't pay over a certain amount of overtime. So it would just bleed into the next month or next week that not count as overtime. It's like, fuck. Can you say how much you were making at that job? I actually don't remember. Oh, oh, wait.

Yeah. It was $15 an hour. $12 an hour. Oh, wow. And with time and a half for overtime, which was good out of high school because I didn't have any scholarships. So I had to work like, I had a max out overtime to pay for college that summer and going into college too because I didn't have scholarships because my grades were bad.

Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah. And then you went to college and then you dropped out of college. Yeah. And when you dropped out, were you continuing to do this work remotely? Yeah, I was still doing remote after dropping up. And then all this, you know, after some time, YouTube income started taking over that job.

Geez, Jack, we could just ask you for them. I'm just, I'm just curious because I think I know that. I think I know that. You know the pipeline. You know the high school to YouTube pipeline. Yeah. You know that. Yeah.

Why did you, why did you drop out of college? I fucking, college sucks. Yeah. That college, well, also I went to college to follow my girlfriend at the time, which was a bad idea. I went to Northern Arizona University, which is the, fuck that college. Why? Well, it's definitely one of those. I think all colleges are pretty money sync, but that one's a real money sync.

It's like the reason I got in was because they have a 93% acceptance rate. They just want your money. They don't give a, like, they don't care about anything else. The computer science program was okay if you could get higher up in it, but they wouldn't even let me like test out. of the intro class and I didn't mean to be like an asshole like you should let me skip a whole class class I was like can you let me take the finals and all the tests uh because I was already working as a programmer so I was like why am I working as a programmer to pay to go to school to learn how to work as a programmer

that's stupid that doesn't make any sense yeah um yeah so that sucked and uh after that year my girlfriend and moved to Oahu and so I moved with her and I was gonna continue school there and I remember like looking at the registration I'm not gonna do that so I just lived in Oahu for a year yeah which was bad that was a bad time and then what happened to that relationship dead dead dying and deceased what happened it's just oh just yeah yeah yeah it was just it should have ended like two years prior okay yeah yeah we were we did in high school God and so yeah yeah yeah and she is not a bad person but But, you know, yeah. It wasn't anything like horrendous. It was just like you. Just didn't, yeah. You should just know when you should move on to different shit.

Got it. Yeah. Yeah. She's not a bad person. Got it. But when you posted this YouTube video, was that a sign for you? Just like, you got to post more YouTube videos? No, I can go.

Really? No, yeah. No, I was just continuing with my life. But that was a cool thing. Yeah. Yeah, it was just a cool thing. So what happened after that? So now you're in Oahu.

Yeah. You broke up. You were not going to college. No, we're still together in Oahu. Oh, you are? Yeah. But you broke up there? No, no, still together.

Oh, you're still together. Yeah. Break up later. Later on. I want to know. We're still together. We're still together. When they broke up and when?

Where was his location? I'm just trying to get the timelines. No, yeah. I was in Oahu for a year. Together for the whole thing. But it just didn't work out, right? In the end, it didn't work. In the end of New York.

Yeah. All there. Yeah. Just as Jack, he knows the timeline. Jack, when did they break up? Things just weren't working out. They should have broke up two years prior. They were high school lovers.

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And back to the podcast. I have to ask you to because I was in band too. And there's a connotation to every instrument. Yeah. Let me guess. Let me guess, okay? You're a, were you a sax man? Yes.

Hey, me too. Me too. There is a connotation to every fucking thing. Yeah, my next guest, my next guest was going to be, don't hate me, but my next guest was going to be trumpet. That's, no, that's not, that's not that bad. That's not offensive. Yeah.

Dude, yeah, the saxophones were, it was such a, being in band, the saxophones were like, we were wild. Wild. Yeah. Were you saxophone too? Yeah, me too. Yeah. Oh, what did you play?

I played the alto and then I switched to tenor. Oh, I did both as well. Yeah. Yeah. The, our band director was the saxophone. So the saxophones could just do anything. It was awesome. My section leader one time just stood up and said, hey, mister, fuck you.

and sat back down in the middle of band and the bandmaster was like ha ha that's funny he went back to him doing this they were like friends it wasn't in like a mean way but it was like it was all over the place gosh guess what i played well you played drums yeah i did were you percussion i'm not gonna just just give a guess uh i played an instrument in band trumpet trumpet perk perk percussion perks pushing the key i would say the same the tuba. Why do you gravitate to the tuba? I like the, I pick the biggest, loudest instrument

that's a reasonable thing. I think that's a lot of tuba players. It's so funny. This is the biggest. Yeah, I loved it because it was huge. Heavy as fuck. They sits on the side of the chair and the thing would like go out of the ear.

Yeah. But I didn't realize how much wind it takes. Like you do get like really winded. Yeah, a lot of gross spit too. You have to dump out of that shit. Oh. Yeah. Bad rooms are not sanitary.

places like you just dump it on the ground yeah they'll just what would they call the little pipe it did the in that the water valve yeah it's a spit valve yeah you just like the brass players would open it up and it go yeah it's gross yeah saxophones never did you just dumped it out yeah yeah it's really yucky never would sit on a man room floor ever that's disgusting yeah in middle school ours was carpeted too which made it yeah it's all carpeted for sound yeah yeah yeah high school it was linoleum so luckily got it yeah yeah Okay. Yeah. So the story. It continues, right?

So you ended up, you know, you and your girlfriend, you separated. Yeah. You were still living on the island. Nope. See, I told you, Jack, he didn't know. So you guys, you started to think of it's all the whole time on Oahu. We're together. Okay, so you moved out of Oahu, right?

Yeah. Yeah. I moved to California and then broke up. Okay. Where in California? I moved in with William Osmond. Oh. It was like a YouTuber who does tech stuff as well.

That was in Oxnard? That was an oxnard, yeah, because his fucking house burned down. Wow. Which I made so much fun of him for. That was awesome. A funny thing. It was funny. Yeah.

He showed me his burned down house. I had some good jabs in there that I did not get on video, unfortunately. Yeah. Were you doing YouTube at that time? Yeah. You were. Okay. Yeah.

So that's how I knew me. I came over for like two weeks to work on a project for this other guy, like, unrelated to YouTube, just programming pure. But during that time, I was able to go up. to see Will and we like did a video and it was fun and his house burned down so we we then got a place together got a place yeah yeah okay yeah it's fun at what point did you realize that youtube was actually like a gonna be financially supportive of you it never really feels that way or ever felt that way it was just like it makes sense i don't really remember a time yeah i don't really remember a time It just happened.

And I just would quit. I quit one job at some point and just did not find another one. What was the job you quit? That was working remote for UH. The university. Got it. How much are you making there? Still, more than 15, like maybe 20, an hour.

Which is like not a bad amount of money, but for, I think the programming work, the people, it was maddening because the people in the same rules were getting paid a lot more. Yeah. So yeah. I would assume you would have been making a lot more. Do you really feel like it was not having a degree that held you back? Well, I think that's what they would say as an excuse to not pay you more. Yeah. Because I was like I was like spearheading implementations and stuff and like asking the other people like the other.

It was like two separate teams. I was like talking to the other team. I was putting together like like workflow diagrams. of like how the database fit together. I was doing like a lot of the bullshit. Like, and so I was like mainly the one working on it. So it felt like that they were just using that as an excuse to not pay you. Did you negotiate?

Maybe you just got to push harder and negotiate these jobs. Oh, I did ask for a raise. Yeah. And they were like, that's how I learned. You needed a degree. And I was like, man, shut the fuck. Really? But why not go in there with a higher number to begin with?

I was 19 years old. Maybe that's part of it. Yeah, yeah, definitely now know how we know how to ask for a raise. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I almost ended up working for, or doing work for Raytheon, the missile company. Cool. But I did not want to go to Tucson. And they're like, that was the person was offering.

So believe it or not, I met up with a subscriber who took me and Macy for sushi. He works there. And he's getting paid pretty well. I mean, I think he was right out of college making like almost six figures. Yeah. Working there and he's like, if I stay there, like, they pay really well. They have locations in multiple parts. Yeah.

It seems like a good gig. And it seems like that as a stepping stone too is like, really good. It's a good gig. Yeah. Yeah. But Tucson. I want to go back to Maui and just hang out. Yeah.

From Maui to there. So now you're doing YouTube. Yeah. How much were you making in the beginning on YouTube? I don't know. I don't look. $20 an hour? Yeah, enough to live.

Enough to live. That's really the only time I look at the money is like I have enough to live. I'm very non-financial oriented. I mean, I pick my own stocks and all that. Yeah. But I don't usually look at like my monthly or like yearly stuff like that, yeah. I don't really remember. I remember being really excited when I owned over like $5,000 in my bank account. I was like, this has never happened before.

This is the coolest thing. Is that from YouTube? Or was that from the job? It was from both. It was from just everything. working together yeah got it yeah I was real frugal on on Oahu I only ham sandwiches okay only ham and white bread yeah to the point where I got like a stomach problem oh wow it was called gurd grass gas for esophical reflux disease every time I would eat grease I'd

get heartburn for like three hours yeah my brother I think has yeah yeah it's not good yeah so then I yeah so I had to take some medication for that what causes that is that something that's like a like a genetic thing or is it just diet I think So you could cause that to yourself. There's a lot of grease already, right? I thought it was like a lot of, if you eat a lot of grease, it. I don't know. Like, maybe it was.

I just remember eating like shi-and-then every time I would have grease, it would like get really bad. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. But I got fixed. Yeah. Got it. Yeah.

And now you're in kind of an interesting situation because you, you started Twitch streaming a little bit. You haven't streamed on Twitch in a while, right? Was that like a half a year or something? Yeah. Wait a second. So I thought, after we met, weren't you the number one most subscribed to person in like a month on Twitch. There's something where it was like some, you broke a record in terms of like

subscribers in one month. I don't know. Yeah. You were talking to Pokey, man. You might have been talking to Poki or something. No, it was you. Yeah, I think it was the first month that you joined or something. Yeah. You gained the most subscribers of anybody or what is it, followers and followers. Subscribers on Twitch in a month, like the first month. Yeah. Yeah. Right. So if I were doing it for money, I would just do that. But sometimes, streaming is a weird thing. Like, I prefer you to it just because like you never get a moment when you're like I did I did it you know you know you you know on YouTube you like make a thing and you edit it and you like throw it out and you're like good on Twitch is just like a constant lull unless you're doing like huge projects yeah um

so it's just like a constant lull the only time I really love Twitch um and I do still like want to do it but it just hasn't like felt like I like a good time to yeah is when I'm really like obsessed with something so like when I think they did like a a modded Minecraft server and I was streaming like 12 hours a day I was going at it so much it was really fun because I was just like super into Minecraft at the time there's a mod where you can code in Minecraft fucking awesome I made like an automated melon farm because the server had less food as like a fun thing okay so I made like a vending machine out of melons wow that was really cool yeah Graham has never touched Minecraft no that's what I have you make from that that's what I

I want to know the numbers. From Twitch? Yeah. Like if you're streaming 12 hours a day, how many people were watching it? I think, like, 10, 20,000? Surely more than, I think more than, if you, like, put the amount I did YouTube

and the amount I did Twitch, probably Twitch would make more, I think. Yeah, probably Twitch would make more. But also, but then if I'm, like, bummed out because I'm, like, not having, if I'm not into it, then it's like, why? No one wants to watch that. Right.

But, like, let's say in an average day on Twitch, if you stream all day. How much would you make from something like that? I don't know. It's been a while since I've streamed on Twitch. Like, I'm not, have you seen that leak? Yeah, I did.

Yeah. But I guess that's the top of the top people. I don't, I don't remember ever checking, like, at the end of the day. A few grand, I'm guessing. Probably. Okay.

Something like that, yeah. See, it's so odd to me because I'd be checking that, like, every minute. Dude, that's like brain poison. No, it's not. In numbers are like mental acid. Why do you not care about finances? Because then, I don't know, because then I'm...

Okay, it makes sense for you guys. You have a financial YouTube channel. It makes sense for a lot of people, though. It makes sense for a lot of people, but like, I think if I were just focused on that, then I would end up making content that I weren't super hyped about. Yeah. Yeah. And I want it to be not just a job for as long as it can be.

Yeah. So, yeah, I want to enjoy every bit of it. That's, maybe that's like, make less money, but higher in enjoyment of work. So I'm just curious because it seems like you'll basically do enough or you'll post a video or something. Yeah, like a year's worth of expenses covered. Do what you want for a year. And then when it comes time to be like, you know, I need the next year, then be like, what am I excited about? Let me, let me do this.

Or it just kind of comes up naturally. Usually in a year you'll find something where you get excited about it. That'll kind of push for the next year. I'm trying to like learn stuff randomly and like it when I'm excited about new technology and Okay, yeah, but it's not like I'm running out of money. I should make YouTube video It's like if I'm like this is a cool idea. I should make YouTube video kind of but let's say that doesn't happen Let's say it's five years goes down the line. Oh and I just don't you just like I'm not in the rest of them not and do it Well then I'm gonna have to find a job doing something else

I probably will find a job doing something else if I if I just lost interest in it okay But I haven't yet which is why I'm Trying to keep interested. Right. Yeah. So it's interesting that you haven't lost interest in YouTube, but you post so infrequently. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Who knows? Huh. I don't know. I have a random question. Yeah. I remember watching your channel a long time ago. We can't say it, but you, you sold these little things.

Oh, ding things. Yeah, ding dings. And we won't say what they are. But do you remember how much you made from that? Because I was so. I have no idea. I know you gotta explain with this. Okay, so the PG way to explain ding-dings.

The male anatomy, like, sure, like a little, uh, it's like a little, uh, a little toy, but it's like a squishy or something. It's really cute. And so Michael, yeah, Michael listed these for sale. I, and I, and I think they sold. They sold pretty well. Yeah, I think, I remember, it was a long time ago. I remember selling like,

I don't know, 20,000 or something of them, which was a reasonable amount. At how much apiece? They sold for like $15 a piece. $15 each, but also the merge company, fucking scamming on those, the one I was working with at the time. So I don't know, a solid amount, surely, for those guys. That was a good one. I want to sell something from my next video, maybe,

later on. I'm interested in that. I am I'm shocked because to me it seems like such a, I don't want to say easy, but a simple path for you. Yeah. Post once a month for a year. Yeah. You'll get enough money. If you just invest it, you will be set after one year. What the fuck am I going to do after a year? Whatever you want. Right? What is that going to be? Literally whatever you want. Just post YouTube videos. Oh, wait, I don't like it anymore. I'm sad. But I'm just saying, but it gives you the option to do whatever you want. If you sacrifice one year now, you will have the rest of your life to do whatever you want. If it's posting more YouTube videos, great.

If it's spending time on the beach, building robots, great. If it's driving across the country, great. But you will never have to worry about money again. And I think in your situation, one year is all it's going to think. Well, maybe, I don't know. Do you think that when you, I don't know, I don't know if I got to that point, I would be interested in, like, I think money is an interesting driving factor.

like it's cool to try and make a business or something. Like something I do want to do eventually is like start my own business. And I don't know if I'd have, because that is like obviously money oriented. Like I would get more money oriented about a business. So I don't know if I would have that drive later on to do it if I were just set for life. But here's it, but here's the thing though. I think a year's worth of savings for you wouldn't be enough to be like just bawling it up. I'm not talking like, this is not like Rolls Roy.

money, this would be enough where it would pay your living expenses, food, and just allow a little bit of saving. Yeah. For one year. Yeah. So I don't think that would, that would lower your motivation one bit. I think you could be just as motivated. But even right now, like, for a while, like, I could just live.

I just want to know that I'm not homeless, you know? That's, that's, yeah, where I'm at. Got it. Yeah. I think that you just, it's comforting for me because you're so not money motivated at all. And you know for a fact that you'll be happy. right with with very little yeah I'll survive for sure

you'll survive and be fine because your average day just like you told me in the car just consists of like video games hanging out with friends going for hikes sometimes learning stuff sometimes I do a lot of like learning stuff right and like quite a bit is like still working on the video and stuff

but yeah there's like a lot of like there's you know fun bits yeah it's just interesting comparing that with Graham right which I mean you do what makes you happy all the time But I enjoy making money.

Yeah, yeah. I look every hour, I'm like, how can I optimize this? Yeah, that's a fun game. It's fun as fun to be like, it's like in a video game where you're like trying to max it out. Like, it's fun. I just don't want to make something else. I want to make it a separate thing, you know.

I don't want it to overtake my like enjoyment for doing stuff. So yeah. Amazon presents Jeff versus Taco Truck Salsa. Whether it's Verde, Rojas. Or the orange one. For Jeff, trying any salsa is like playing Russian roulette with a flame thrower. Luckily, Jeff saved with Amazon and stocked up on antacids, ginger tea, and milk. Habaniero?

More like habanier, yes. Save the everyday with Amazon. So how do you find out what you enjoy? You just wake up one day and you're like, I feel like doing this. I'm going to do that. I don't know, working on different things, learning. YouTube videos with the browse. Learning.

Yeah, YouTube videos. Yeah. New technology. I try to like learn stuff even if I don't know where it's going to go to. Just because like sometimes like you got like a buy a tool before you use it. So like obviously I didn't think of learning facial recognition with the thought of making like the lasers. But just because you know it, it's like oh, you can do this and this and put these things together because you know them. it's not like not the other way around so I'm trying to get as many like things that I do know

got it so you can put them together what's something that you're learning at the moment or just something that you've learned recently I'm doing a lot of statistical analysis from this recent video which is really fun it's like a data visualization stuff super fucking cool uh sentiment analysis I'm working with like large data sets so here's the thing if you create a program like that you could sell the program all right and that'd be fun and I'd be super into the money if I were doing it yeah that specifically yeah um let's get to the topic of you selling everything. Why'd you do that? I was sold all my stocks.

Yeah, because you told me, it must have been a year ago that you had sold, no, you had bought Simon Property Group. You were like all in Simon Property Group, and you did well. Because I think since then, Simon Property Group is up about 250%.

Yeah, that's not. 500%. Yeah. And the dividends on that, you bought in when it was paying probably like a 9% dividend. Yeah. Yeah. Those on a tip from a friend. Yeah. And I remember saying I bought some Simon Property Group, just not as much as you can. Yeah, yeah.

Good. The only, the reason I sold was because I was really afraid of the Chinese housing market. The, their largest housing firm went bankrupt. Evergrand. Right? Yeah, Evergrand. Yeah. And that's scary because in China, that's like their way to invest.

If, like, you have extra money, like, that's the only way you can invest in China because you can't go into the stock market because it's owned by, like, the state. I mean, even your house is on by this. You know, you can't buy a house? It's like you lease it from the state for 99 years. You buy the rights for 99 years. 99 years. Technically, they're the ones that only you just have the right.

Weird, right? Yeah. So if you invest in China, you're always investing in real estate and their main real estate company went under. So that just scared me. I think their market cap was like greater than Lehman Brothers or something. And so just hearing that, I wanted to just like unexposed for like a month or two. But when did you sell?

I don't know, like a, something like a month or two ago. Less. A month ago. A month ago. So it's probably up since you've sold, I'm guessing. Yeah, a bit, yeah. Yeah. The thing with that with Evergrand is that there's not that much exposure to the U.S.

I think it was something like 5%. It's very little. I was afraid of some horrible chain reaction. No. That's what I was afraid. No. Yeah. So I was out.

And then... Because then you also have to pay capital gains tax on that. Yeah. Well, I was going to get back in and then Russia went to war with Ukraine. And I was like, that's weird and scary. And I don't know what that does to the stock market, because I've never lived that before. Should watch my videos. Yeah.

Yeah. I've gone over the studies on that. Yeah. So I didn't know. So I would rather remove myself from the risk of a highly volatile thing for a few months, other than making a few percent. How much profit did you have? Because you must, I'm guessing you probably have a few.

On SPG? Yeah, like a few hundred thousand dollars? That's a lot of money. but I don't know. I think a lot. Okay, it's a lot. A lot, surely. Because it was like a lucky.

It was from a friend. Yeah, that was a good one. Also, I think AMD was a lot from when I bought it to some like 30, 40%. Yeah. The issue I see on that, there's nothing selling out of, you know, Simon Property Group to buy something else. But the issue is that you're going to be hit with this capital gains tax with California. I was aware. I was aware.

Yeah, 35% is gone to that. I was aware. Yeah. Versus, I would have kept it. Yeah. Because the dividend that you're getting on that, you're getting like 5%, 6% on your money, but higher on the amount that you've invested, probably 5, 4.5% and I have 5% on the money, the value of that. That's, you know.

Yeah, yeah. That's really strong. I just feared end of days. Okay. Yeah. Kevin O'Leary says what, Graham? You shouldn't not sell a stock because of taxes. Yes.

That's from Kevin O'Leary. Max is dictate with him at yourself. Yeah, that's true. Listen, it is true, but I think when you live in California, California, you have to pay an extra 10% on that. It's just, there are ways that you could borrow against that if you needed more money, or you needed a hedge or you needed something out. It's not like I was bankrupt.

I was just worried about the market. So probably get back in. Probably do some quirky shit. Maybe do some in video. Their 40 series will come out soon. I think that's going to do it. excellently. Got it.

Yeah. I'm kind of curious on what your living expenses are like because last time we talked like we mentioned, it was about a year ago. Yeah, yeah. And you don't have expensive taste.

You don't spend a lot of money. I think you did spend a lot of money on Uber Eats though. I did, but I've been cooking more recently. Oh, good. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. So what, I mean, walk us through like your average monthly expenses. What's like the cost? I don't know. Insurance, health insurance,

which I do have. I found out when I went to the ER that I do have health insurance, which is nice. Oh, yeah, you got food poisoning. Food poisoning or something. The reason, I didn't go to the ER because I got food poisoning. I went because there was blood in the vomit. So that's what I was like, I should go to the emergency. Wow.

Because I, I like, I threw. Yeah, that was extreme. You'd go to the air food poisoning. Yeah, yeah. I threw everything up. And then I got to the bile and there were like chunks of brown. And I looked it up and it was like, that is congealed blood. And I was like, I don't think that's blood.

No. And I called my dad who was a nurse, and he's like, that is blood. Go to the emergency room. So I'm a picture of it? Yeah. Okay. He's like, go to the emergency room. And so I went.

I know, it was all right. They CTed it. What was the deal? They didn't, they got, the doctor barely talked to me. They were busy as shit. So I don't know. They said you're fine and I left. And you were fine.

And I was fine. And I was the bill for that. Like 200 bucks. That's it. Because I had health insurance. Which is crazy. I do not know you have health insurance. I didn't.

I know you have to have something, but. Well, I didn't for a lot. long time. And I got it, I don't know, maybe like you're going forgot it, I guess. Wow. Yeah. Do you know how much you ban that? No, I don't remember. Okay.

I do know that I waited four hours in a fucking ER, though, in the ER lounge. Like, in the ER lobby, waiting to go into the ER. And he wouldn't recognize you in the lobby. You're like, no. It's Michael Reeves, man. Just puking my guts out. Yeah. It was bad.

The guys, I got a stab. He's like, yo, it's Michael. Yo, let me get a selfie really quick. There was this guy who got maced and he was like, pissed that that weight was like four hours. Oh my gosh. It's like I got f***ing maced. Let me end. I got a wait in this fucking line.

First of all, how do you get maced? That's what I was wondering? I was like, what did you do that made you get maced? Doesn't that go away? I thought that would last like an hour. No, dude, that's last forever. Really? That lasts like a few hours, I think. Getting maced is extremely painful. But I think unless you're in life-threatening they will not bring you in like in the fast pass

Genie Pini PASS. He was probably fine by the time that they allowed. He was. He actually. didn't end up going in because he was all right by the end. I feel like they would question like, how did you get mazed? Did you do this to yourself? Or you doing something? Oh, I robbed the lady. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, she wouldn't give me her purse. She would get me and this is her fault. You know what the crazy thing in the US legal system? Let's say he's trying to steal a purse and gets mazed and has to go to the hospital. Imagine that guy's suing for damages. I bet he could. I bet there's some lawyer out there who would pay for a lawyer. Who would take that case.

Yeah. I'd be like we can win it. Yeah, and we'll just say, listen, lady, it's cheaper. You just pay them 20 grand and settle. Because otherwise, they could drag this out for years and you're better off. Yeah, that's fucked out. That's how it works in the U.S. I think it's just like the reason of how much damage they caused, though.

Because, you know, if I think the whole thing is like, if he's trying to steal like a $1,000 phone, right, is macing him, let's say, and then for some reason your mace was like bad. and he went blind is is a reasonable like action to getting your phone stolen to blind someone I think that's kind of what they look at yeah no they could they could sue for whatever and most insurance companies I didn't realize this they choose to automatically settle it's cheaper for them as an insurance company say hey we're going to pay 10 20 grand rather than investigate and spend our resources on this seriously the lady like pulls out a sheet yeah like doing the math but this is but how much is in her

throughout businesses, auto incidents, insurance is just like, settle, settle, settle, it's a cost benefit thing. Even a buddy who owns like a physical storefront, he's been sued now like four or five times.

Holy shit. Yeah, two years. But because of frivolous lawsuits, like a lady will walk out front, slip. Yeah. And find an injury attorney who will represent,

and it's just like, settle for 10K. Or we're going to take this to court and it's way more expensive for you. So even if you win, even if you're in the right, it's on camera, you're going to win. You really want to spend $15,000 fighting this even though you win or you pay $10K right now and you walk away. And even if they do win, the lady who slipped and fell, what does she have? Let's say you win the judgment. She's got $500 to her name. Where are you going to collect that from? You're not. You won the lawsuit, but you lost. So it's pretty bad. That's fun.

But that, yeah, but that reminds me of the whole health insurance thing that I had based on this is like the crappiest policy. It's basically meant for like a catastrophic plan where I'm paying out of pocket the first $8,000. I think I got a bad one too. Yeah. Well, no, not if you're going to the ER for $200. I can must cover it special. I don't remember getting like a good one. It's, I don't know.

My last time at the doctor and this is why like, I hate to say like I've stopped going, but it was like three or four years ago. I went to get, what was it? I think I just had low energy or something like that. But it was like a persistent low energy. And I went in thinking like maybe my levels are off or something like that. So I did a full range of blood tests. Yeah. Check your pH with the test strips.

Yeah, take the pH, take the salinity and like all that sort of the temperature. They did the full range of blood tests and came back and thankfully everything was fine. And they, you know, maybe it was a stress or something. But anyway, I remember getting this bill in the mail for like $7,000. Holy shit. For like blood tests. Oh my God. And I'm like this should have been covered under preventative.

Yeah. And they say, nope, the way it's coded is that this was like something extra and it's not covered. And I remember spending weeks on the phone back and forth with both the hospital, not the hospital, the doctor's office and the insurance company trying to get this thing resolved. Yeah. It took a long time and eventually got resolved and eventually had to pay the $50. But it's a long time. But it wasn't worth it. Like if you added my time.

And then the other one is I convinced myself I had melanoma because I looked at a mole. And I was like, yeah. That's melanoma. I do that. And I called for my, for the, for the doctor to, like, get in because it should be covered under preventative. And so, well, in order to do that, you need to go and set up an appointment with a normal doctor to then be referred out to a skin doctor. And this could take, you know, we'll book you in like a few weeks and then it'll be another few weeks. I'm like, that's two months.

If I have melanoma. I don't know now. Yeah. So that whole process, guess how much it costs me out of pocket. just to make an appointment, pay out of pocket for this thing. Oh, like $450. $250. And I made an appointment for the next day.

That's $250 versus this other one where I have to make an appointment, go to this thing, wait a few weeks, get referred. It's not worth it. It's so bad. It's like I'd rather just pay for it at that point. Yeah. Why do you have health care in the first place? I don't know.

Yeah, I mean, yes. It's bad. Like, part of me would rather just like save the money and pay at a pocket. But, you know, I'm paying, I think it's $300. a month for basically if something happens, I'm covered above $8,000. So I look at it like... Some like horrible shit. Yeah.

So I'd rather just be covered. Yeah, that's cool. That's good. Yeah. Like if you hit me in the boxing ring. And you died. Let's not... Let's maybe not.

Yeah, let's clip that out. No, no, no. Oh, yeah, we're boxing. Yeah. No, I think we include it in the thing. It'll be interesting. No, I mean, I mean, clip is. so that after you die, we have a clip.

Yeah, no, gosh, I don't even, I'm, I'm so superstitious. I'm so superstitious about this. I will knock on the epoxy. Yeah, I always worry. Graham, I'll be there, man. You will something into existence by joking about it, and then it happens.

I'm so superstitious about it. No, it's okay. Like, you joke about that, and then it happens, you know? He's a very superstitious person. That's a hundred percent. Isn't it interesting? He's incredibly superstitious. We post that, like, for example,

he always wants to sit on the couch in a certain spot because videos will do better if we like post there. Dude, I get that about you. Knock on wood, stuff is weird. Stuff like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, posting in a certain time. That one makes sense a little bit.

It's always stuff like this where they look back at podcasts. You're like, that was the moment. He said it. He said it. He welded into it. Yes, exactly. And I believe in that stuff. So now it's like, have we just, I don't know, anyway.

So we should talk about the beef, right? Because you guys have some serious beef. Yeah, you're going to be settling with your fists and your faces, right? We're pissed. So what's going on with that? Why why each other? They're boxing for those that don't know, Michael and Graham. Why did you agree to it?

Why did you agree to it? Yeah, so Ian, Idubs, asked if I would want to do a charity boxing match. And my first question was, how much do I make from it? No, it doesn't work like that. No, no, charity. It's charity. And I'm like, oh, man. I hate you.

I may as well. And he's like, well, but if you get a sponsor, you could keep. the sponsor mind. I'm like, oh, okay, fine. But I said yes because I felt like it was something that 10 years from now, I would look back and regret not having done it. I think I did it for a similar reason. Really? Yeah, I did it in my initial reaction. I was at like a shoot thing with William Osmond and I was there and he was like, I don't want to do this boxing match. And my initial thing was like, no, I don't want to do a boxing match. I know I don't want to get hit. And then I was like, I like shot back to like me in middle school watching Ian Idubs on

YouTube. I was like, what the fuck would he think? And then immediately I just blurt it out yes, of course. And that was it. That sealed the fucking deal. Yeah. Like, okay. Ian asked you to do a boxing match. Like, that's the weirdest cool thing ever. It took me

like a week to say yes to it. Yeah, yeah. On the fence. Yeah. And I logically my answer should have been no. Because I looked at the time commitment. And I added up in my mind, I'm like, if I spend an hour you know doing this three times a week if i could spend an hour doing something else over this you know it didn't make any sense to me and i almost said no but then i thought well it's it's a unique

experience it'll be a good push to get like in shape similar same yeah next used to go like the gym more yeah or again at all yeah and i never had a trainer before like i'd go friends who like you know would would go to the gym but that's about it but it's it's yeah it's way different than i thought and i went into it thinking like i'll all have an edge because i've I lift weights and go to the gym. And then I remember the first time I did this, like, my hands were all like, all messed up. Yeah, I couldn't use, like, my phone after. Yeah.

I felt so sore. And I was like, oh, crap. And then there was that wave of, like, did I make a mistake? Did I just sign up for something? I don't know. Yeah. And then I thought, well, you know, technically I don't have to say, I don't have to commit 100% to this until later so I get more of these in.

But, yeah, I just feel bad about, you know, canceling. Yeah. I would also have that about. counseling. Yeah, I just feel bad about that. I'll be doing it. I'll do it. I'll do it. I'll do it. I feel bad about you. You know why? It's just I don't want to get hurt.

I had some reprehensions. I definitely had reprehensions. I think, I thought to myself, well, if there's any damage that's not repairable, like my mind to me is so important that if anything even hinders that by a percent, it's not worth it. It would suck, yeah. Yeah. Same thing

like, let's just say I get hit in a face and I get like a black eye or something like that. I have to film. So it's like, I don't want to be covering that up. I don't want to be in a position where I'm swallowing. That'd be cool to have for a film. Just for a bit. I don't know.

I guess it's just getting hurt. If I knew I would do it and not get hurt or not have an injury I couldn't recover from within a day. Yeah. I think he's trying to make you feel bad. The offer. Yeah. I don't want to die either.

Yeah. You've been training pretty rigorously, though? Not like rigorously, but I'm, It's supposed to be like three or four times a week, but recently I like fuck my neck going to this. Then I had the food poisoning or like stomach virus or whatever that was. Then I'm going to a conference in like this week. So it's like huge, lullin working out, which sucks.

But yeah, I've been trying to, trying to eat better and like trying to just do it. When you find out you were first fighting Graham, what was your initial reaction? You're like, I could beat him. It was like, thank God I'm not fighting. I was going to fight Captain Sparkles. Oh, no. Who's fucking, like, ripped.

I looked at, yeah. Massive. And also has been boxing for like a year. And Ian was like, yeah, that would be a fun, fun match. And I was like, please. I was like, I said I would do it. Just know I will get knocked out for sure. And then I talked to Captain Sparkles.

And I think he's the one who was like, I don't think we should do this. That looks bad on his point. Yeah. That looks bad for him for sure because he would just shit on it. But not only that. He's a few inches taller than me. He's about two inches taller than me. He goes to the gym regular.

I've seen him at the gym. He is huge. Yeah, he's big. Yeah. He has the physique that I would have if I like have a model physique, it would be his. And he already has it. And more than that, he's been boxing for like a year. And a lot of it's probably just the technique.

And so like he has checked, like I probably would have considered a lot more if he had no idea how to do boxing. That would have been maybe interesting. I wouldn't have done it. But like every single thing was like, my only thing was like, dude, Kamp Spark was a lot. that's pretty cool I used to watch as you do I used to watch his Minecraft parodies so it'd be cool to get knocked out by him but it was like that would not be a fun match I

think for him either because it's not a fun thing to just on someone immediately I I would have been a note you know what's interesting and I've never told you this and maybe I told Ian this I'm not sure yeah somebody asked me as either macy or Jack asked me a while ago would you ever do a boxing match and I said no but the only person I would say yes to is Michael Reeves. I swear. I swear. And that's part of what

fed into this. That's destiny. That's a difference. Because, uh, and it, willed it into existence. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh,

because when we met and we measured our height, you were similar, the height, same bill. It was like, identical. Yeah, same shit. And even when Ian was asking, like, how much do you weigh?

I said like, yeah, about one, 25, one 30. Yeah, same. It's the same thing. So I felt like on an even playing field, having never boxed before my life. Yeah, yeah. It would be a good match.

Yeah. So when he said, it was you, I'm like, I said I would. And now it's like, now I'm being tested on this. Yeah. To see if I'll actually commit to it. So I said yes. Yeah.

Yeah. It'll be, it's a good match. We're pretty like similar everything. Actually, yeah. Same height, same build. Yeah. But I told everyone that you are the wild card. Because you have this ability, I think, to just like, you're so smart that you would find a way,

like, a technical way of like, if I do this and I do that. with this hand, then I'll win. It's like, I don't know. You would find something. I won't be doing that. I will not be smart. Well, I guess you probably shouldn't say your strategy right here because I don't even have a strategy.

I don't even have a strategy. My strategy right now is not getting hit. Yeah. This is so hard for me to visualize. Imagine if either of us. You just. Please know. Both of us in the opposite size for the four minute.

That is so funny. We're going to have to fight at some point. So how do you like boxing so far? It's not what I expected Surely It's fun when you're doing it right It's not fun when I get When I do hear like

Every time I'm doing something wrong To like jab me in the stomach with a stick And it's like I know I do need That is important because it makes you learn it It's fun so far Like it's a good excuse to like exercise And it's interesting It's fun to hit a pad

to hit a bag. Oh, I haven't hit a bag yet. Yeah. No. You're doing pads mostly? Pads. Yeah.

But yeah, I was telling my guy has these big, fluffy, not fluffy, but like the poofy mits or the gloves. Yeah. And yeah, if I put my hand down, he'll,

yeah, if you put him down. And I'm like, oh, man, but sometimes I'm telling him, like, it hurts, it hurts, it's usually, no, keep going to.

You got to learn it. And yeah, and sometimes I'll put him up to here and it'll go, but to the stomach. Yeah. And he's like, so he's like,

you got to kind of crunch over like this. Yeah. And then sometimes he'll just go whaling on me. I'm going like this and I'm moving back. He's enjoying it way too much, man. But I move back. He's like, don't move back. Don't move back.

You just get, it's better for you to sustain your ground or move to the side. Because once you're back, then it's like, then you're off balance and you lose eye contact. So many things that. Dude, yeah, a lot of weird things you don't expect, for sure. Like defensive stuff. I don't know, like I've watched like, boxers, like YouTube videos.

And I don't know how they can, like, see where the punch is going to come from and, like, choose a defensive option. Like, how do you know, like, to pull back or go side to side? Like, it's such a fast thing for a punch to come out. Like, it's, I don't know. Maybe you just got to do it more. Yeah. I'm not that fast.

I'll definitely not fast enough to still see it going. Yeah. If this brings you guys any sort of solace, I do think, realistically, you're not training for too long. You know, Graham does work out. pretty strong. You said you're kind of newish to working out. I used to work out a lot. Okay, sure. Yeah, but my cardio sucks.

That's the thing. I do think it would be difficult for one of you, one of you guys, I'm saying this in the easiest way possible, to punch you the other person so hard that I actually don't. It's something else here now. Something new. From exclusively on Paramount Plus, it's the series Stephen King calls it scary as hell.

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But that's the thing you don't know. It's like the right hit to the right spot at the right time. Some random shit. Yeah, yeah. I understand. I put down my mitts and Michael comes in and just sees the, you know, gets it on the side. It's just, I don't know. And it's just death.

Yeah. I understand the worry, yeah. Yeah, I wouldn't want that either. Yeah, that would suck. But you could have a brain aneurysm any time, and that doesn't even involve boxing. So, yeah. That's a good point.

My biggest thing is hitting, even the boxing and structure, when he's up, he's like, okay, now you got one minute, you got to hit me. Yeah. And I cannot. It's so difficult for me to hit him in the face. No, not defensively, but, like, I feel bad.

I'm like, even if I did hit him, I would feel so, like, I don't want to hurt him. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. I accidentally punched. my coach in the dick. Really? Punch of Brian the cock.

Really hard. Was he okay? No. He was hurt for a bit. He doubled over? Yeah, he took it like a champ, but like I felt so fucking bad. I felt so incredibly bad for hitting him in the dick. What does your girlfriend think about this?

Oh, that's the best part. She has no idea. Why? How? The best part is she doesn't know. And for two months since I found out I was doing it, I've been like throwing boxing memes at her. like jabbing her in the arm and being like hey hey i'm gonna be a boxer and she's like shut the up because i do it all the time why is this on purpose yes it's funny it's so i i'll be like he i'm

gonna be a boxer and and she'll be like where we're on and be like doing boxing training you know how it is and she's like what are you saying stop with this it's not a funny joke to her because she thinks it's a show but if you go to training you tell her i'm going to boxing training and she doesn't no no knuckles after you come back aren't they well we don't even we don't live in the same place. So that makes it easier. And so yeah, and sometimes I was at boxing. Usually I will not say that, but sometimes I'll be like, yeah, boxing, yeah. And I got it even, she even saw the punching bag I have like in the garage, which I, yeah,

and she's like, she's like, you're really taking this meme far. She thinks it's for the joke. She thinks it's for the joke, which is, because I'm like, I don't even really hit it much. She thinks they, like, you're cheating her or something like, be like, yeah, I know it's boxing tonight. Sorry, sorry, babe Most of the time it's like, I'm like, I'm not even, I'm not telling her I'm doing it usually. And so I'm building up this meme and I want to be there when she sees Ian release the card and announce the fights.

And I want to be there. I didn't have videos of me like jabbing her in the arm and being like, he-he. See, I'm worried because I've mentioned casually the fight on the podcast. Yeah, we did that on the last one. Dude, she will not, she will not hear it. She probably won't catch it. But you don't think someone would like watch the podcast and just like, I guess it. Well, also he's going to, the card's going to be Friday, the announcement.

Oh, that's before. Okay. Yeah. So it's like we're close. Like it's five days actually. It was supposed to be laughing. So I'm worried that it ruined it or something. She finds out before it's not going to be a surprise.

She would tell me if if she knew. Yeah. So yeah, it's just this funny meme where it's like I've been building this for months. Is she going to be? Is she going to laugh? I don't know. It'll be fun, though. That's hilarious.

I love that. What do you think of a reaction? Is she going to be, like, supportive? I think she was going to be, like, mad for, like, two minutes and then really laugh a lot. Yeah. I think she'll be supportive about it. Yeah. Yeah.

It's like a free trip to Florida. Probably go to Disney World. You guys are going to go to Disney World when you go? I don't know. Oh, that's a good idea. Graham wouldn't go. You're in Disney World? No, I could work.

Graham's just going to get into a fight and going out. That's perfect one. Michael, I want to know, since our last episode that we did. Yeah. What has changed for you? I know we were talking about your credit score. Yeah. Do you get credit cards?

No. You didn't, so nothing changed. No, nothing changed. Nothing changed. No. All right. I invest more. All right.

Invest. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. I have my own LLC now, which is good for, which is excellent.

I am told. For tax purposes. If your taxed is an escorp. Yes. Yeah. So that's good. Yeah. Right.

Yeah. I do. all my business and personal expenses used to be on the same thing. So that was really hard to figure out. So now it's on like two separate things, which is, that's good, I guess. I do hate that stuff. Do you have someone that takes care of it all for you?

Taxes? Yeah. I do have a tax person. Yeah. Man, there's still so much I have to put together, though, like to send to them. I feel like I should just get turbo tax. I did mine. It was, oh, man.

I spent the entire day going through everything. That's probably the reason I have is because there's so many different weird Deplace, yeah, and you got, like, podcast and you got YouTube and, yeah. I have Twitch, I'd Patreon. Yeah, so much. That's a lot. Yeah. And the issue, though, is that the IRS is so backed up that even trying to get on a phone call with them for anything, it's just you cannot do it.

I think I heard that only 3% of calls to the IRS right now are being answered. I didn't even know you could call the IRS. Oh, yeah. For what? Just say hi. Anything. If you have questions, you could call them to say hi. Say what's up.

Yeah, I'm at 3%. But just, yeah. But just getting in, you're like lucky enough to be able to speak to someone there. If anyone works at the IRS who's able to, no, seriously. I'm like half joking, but this podcast is sponsored by the internal revenue service. But no, but no, because I sent in a forum and it's just like, I don't know how long it's going to take for like a person to actually see this forum. And I'm like, well, if one of our viewers wants to, you know, I don't know if that's legal thing. Solicit the help from the IRS.

Just to look, just to, just to file the form. I just want to know if it's filed. Just file it. That's file. No, no. It's, I talked to the tax person who said that, like, some of these documents, they've, they've submitted to the IRS still haven't been processed after, like, six to, six months to a year. That's crazy.

So it's like some of these things, you want to be a little bit more timely on it. You don't want to just post it, you know, date it and then have, like, a certified mail. You want to know. Yeah. So if anyone's there who wants to check my mail for me. That'd be cool. Just want to, you know, just, or not, or I'm joking. But if it's illegal, he's joking.

If I'm, yeah, I don't know if that's legal to ask if someone at the irons could, like, just take a look and make sure they receive that. You know, jokingly, of course. I don't know. So I want to make sure they receive it. That's all. I want to make sure they get the, get the forms on time. Get the fucking form. Just anxious like that.

That's all. Yeah. So nothing has changed since then. Not credit wise, no. Not financial, much wise. Yeah. Did you, was there any takeaway from our, from our video that you're like, I learned something or no?

I should get a credit card. Yeah, but I still have not. Okay. If you got a PA, they would do it for you. Probably. Yeah. You have an assistant right now or no? Yeah.

How much are you working, would you say, on an average day? Depends on like the era. Like sometimes it's like many days of doing nothing. And then some days it's like many days is the only thing I do is work. It's like, yeah. I don't know. Or like right now. working on this video it's like get up just work on the thing and then go to sleep mostly so yeah

how many hours did you say i have in this video have in this video oh my god um hundreds hundreds are you serious yeah easily because behind the scenes like like even in that shitty presentation yeah i was i was like i have to go into like my graphic software i have to go into like not there's software i have to like make the software and i have to like use And I'm like, okay, I have to build out these graphs. I have to model the, you know, crunch the data set like to look like this. So it fits into these graphs. I have to look up like, okay, how did the Dow do?

I'm going to now get that data. I'm going to plot that data against my graphs. It's like so much on the back end that it's like if I get a new idea for something, it's like, okay, that's going to be five hours, six hours for like a little thing. Like even the shitty graphs. But isn't something like that? Couldn't you have someone else graph that for you? Maybe.

But they'd have to be extremely involved. like have access to all my files and stuff. They'd have to be really specialized too because most people don't do like, most people are like really good at this and they would be able to blow through this. But then I'd have to like get another person to do something else if I'm working on something else.

So they would be able to do this better but they would only be able to do this probably. Yeah, so I also like to know what's going on. Got it. I really do like to have an idea of the full picture. So I'm working on every little bit helps me get an idea of the full picture. Yeah, surely hundreds, though.

Yeah. The graphing wasn't big. I feel like you could have done, for the amount of time, you could have spent 12 hours making the fart car horn and just doing that. And finding a way to hack that so that people, when they honk their horn, they're caught off guard.

And just a compilation of that. That's a fun one. Yeah. It's also hard to come up with ideas sometimes. If we're a good idea. What are some of the other ideas that you've had that you abandoned? Oh, baby killing drone.

What is it? Baby killing drone. And why did you abandon that idea? Why was that a bad idea? They told me it was insensitive. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

It was going to be a drone with a big spike on it. And it could detect babies and kill them. I'm dying. What if it accidentally saw a real-life baby? Yeah, so are the babies out. It would have definitely been too. shitty to kill a baby like a real baby but i think it could have in like a garage like a lab environment it could have found it and and skewered a fake baby so who told you that was a bad

idea because it wasn't you william osman yeah yeah okay william osman and my manager were like that's a bad one do you usually ask them for your ideas before you do them just like so no that one was just i think we were just talking and i was like that could be fun that's probably like the one where i was like yeah i won't i probably want Maybe someday I'll still fucking do it. Yeah. That would be fun. Yeah.

Any other ideas? We want to hear more of these ideas. Not ones that I shot down. There's got to be some like in the works that you've thought of something. Not ones that I've like killed. Because usually if it's if it's if I like it, I'll just do it. There's a lot of like shi ones though. Lots of like I could just attach a taser to something.

You know what would have been nice. It's to take that. You know the package thief videos? Oh yeah. Markover. Oh, and just it kills them. But if you did something that was like gun, even crazy. Yeah, like it's a gun in the box.

These are super tame and it's like, but I don't know, but if you could do something like that that's like freaky, like, yeah. Pepper sprays them and tastes. It shocks them. Felony charges. Yeah.

Less than lethal. Yeah. Oh, my God, yeah. And then you get sued. Yeah, he gets sued for damage just like you're saying. The guy ends up pepper sprayed. Yeah. Spittle but has to leave

where they take them Because the weight was four hours Yeah If you could do a video like that I feel like we'd do it would be funny If people would try to steal the baggage And then like as they were trying to run off your property You had like four six foot eight bodyguards

Just step and just close off It's gotta be the robot like maybe that's where the drone comes in Yeah the drone just chases them off That's kind of funny Yeah the drone chases them up Like some sort of robot or some sort of wall that comes up That boxes them in Yeah that would be that would be

I mean, that's imprisome. Like, like, but if you're on your property, it's, it's illegal. Certainly. You can't hold somebody.

A door can't lock behind. It's like, if they take that, that would be bad. The door locks, they can't get out, but they're in there. Who's to say that?

Yeah, but there's a difference between having like a reasonable thought that, oh, if you step behind the store, it might close, versus, ha-ha, got you.

The house is, the walls around you. It's like, Like banks and stuff like that, they control who goes in and out. If there's something, someone steals something, they lock them inside. I guess they do that. Yeah. I wonder where that lies.

Yeah. Yeah. I haven't even asked my like tax person about how this video is going to work for the fish. I don't know. What do you think even that happens? For what? The investment. You can't write off the investment.

So, yeah, so that's not, yeah, you're not writing off the investment. Now here's the thing. It's not even me really buying the stocks. So really should I be paying that tax? Yeah. Because it's a fish paying. But where's the money going once you pull out? Who says I'm going to pull out? Yeah, I mean, let's say you keep it in there.

But the thing is then everyone would call their investments a business because then I would be like, well, I invested $100,000 with the monkey as a business expense. And then right off that investment. That's maybe like the one. That's maybe like the closest thing you could do. You wouldn't be able to. I mean, if you did. Yeah. If you get audited, then it's like, well, hey, I mean, that's pretty obvious.

Like, you're going to be fucking audit me? Me? IRS. Well, I mean. They're trying. Listen, you never know. But my point being, like, technically you're not supposed to write that off. If you paid someone for software or whatever, then you write that off as an expense.

Yeah, yeah. But, yeah, it's something like that you would not be able to. Yeah, I doubt I will. I can't wait to explain to them, though. You could try. Yeah. How about this? I would try and just say, like, yeah.

like I think can I do this and see what their reaction is? That'll be a fun conversation to have with them. But yeah. Because, yeah, that's your investment. So plus you didn't lose any money. Now, if you lost money, you'd be able to write off. I lost money for sure. Because the other bot lost money.

Oh, you did, okay. Whatever the loss is, you're going to use that loft to offset your gain. Yeah. So at the end of this tax year, what I would do is sell the losing portfolio. It's on you IRS. Sell the equivalent amount of the winning portfolio to then reset your tax basis. That way I'll save a little. bit on taxes. Yeah, I'll do that.

All right. Yeah. What questions you have for us? I have one more question. Okay, Jack has a question. So a lot of people consider you like a YouTuber's YouTuber because your type of like video production skills and stuff like that is like it's really admired by a lot of YouTubers. Like people look up to you. I ask a lot of YouTubers like who they watch and a lot of them say Michael Reeves.

Oh, that's sweet. And I want to know what are some of the stuff that you pay attention to in your own videos because it seems like like every single second of your videos is like perfect. Like there's perfect buildup. There's like good climax. There's resolution like all of this stuff. Scripting. Extremely good scripting like even the production quality. It's like I notice how your your camera quality and your audio quality. It's not perfect but it's kind of Mr. Beast'sesque because he's gone on record and said he tries to make it seem like he doesn't have super high-res video quality or like audio quality it's like perfect do you look into that type of stuff or what

strategies do you look like do no i don't uh i don't even uh script the videos there's no script for anything wow that's impressive i uh the way i i make it is i think i said it last time where i'll just shoot like i'll shoot like 30 seconds worth of footage like in video time and then go to the editing and then edit it and then i'll shoot the next 30 seconds and then just do this fucked hellish back and forth. Do you do like, you know, first try,

second take, third take, fourth take? Yeah, I'll usually like, I can see like what I need to do based on like what I've done before it.

So it's like, I'll do like, you know, if I'm like two minutes, I'm like, okay, I don't know what needs to happen here and I'll like edit it together

and I'm like, that needs to get filmed. So I'll go film that, come back. It's like this slow Lego building block hell that I've made for myself. Yeah. So that helps me

keep track of what's happening. Like have an idea of what's, I think, think if I tried to do it all in footage and then edit it, one, I would want to kill myself because the editing in chunks, I hate like a huge, big glob of editing to do. And I would have, like, way less of an idea of how, like, everything fits together. And, like, I should have done that way faster or I should have done this part with more explanation.

If you're, like, editing it, and I watch it a bunch of times, like, up to the point that I'm trying to, like, to the end point that I've got, I'm like, okay, this part obviously needs to be a little faster because it's boring up until here you know yeah okay yeah so you get a idea for like how to film better idea for how to edit I don't know oh yeah it's low as shit though you've seen that you've seen it 100 times yeah yeah I'm tired of watching this video right um do you have it can I see it oh man it's like most of the way done oh I'd love to see it's like 90% done this uh your part was actually like a big part of it oh cool yeah I needed that that was a chunk and I it's hard to work on the shit it was actually a huge

huge block because I was like, I want to see what it looks like edited with your bit before I do any other bits. So it's like, I don't, yeah. That's an honor. Yeah. Wow, that's a lot of pressure. What if you don't like? Well, yeah, I won't be upset.

If you cut it out, I'm not going to be upset. No, it was good. Like, whatever, it was good. Yeah. It's just the level of commitment because otherwise, if we didn't do this, you would literally be flying in here for really 20 minutes, like 15 minutes of filming. Yeah. To leave.

I mean, it makes more sense than drop. to Boston. That was a long time. But just the commitment, it would be way easier. Well, it wouldn't be the same of like just having me fill my part. Yeah, yeah. Because now I can have like a picture of me flying to Vegas, like a little map. Yeah. And I get to do like two seconds of out the window.

Yeah. People appreciate that stuff. That's fun. They notice it. And I think it's funny to like go here just to get that bit. Yeah. Yeah. Like it's funny to drive across the U.S. to get that.

I would have loved for you to have pitched. this like Kevin O'Leary or like Mark Cuban or like someone like that. Yeah, I don't know how to get in contact with those guys though. They are. I can help with Kevin O'Leary. Oh, yeah? Yeah. If I can do it within a week, then I do that.

That'd be cool. It is. But yeah, I can ask. Yeah, that would be sick. If you could ask, that'd be sweet. Yeah, that'd be awesome. Okay. I'd put that in for sure.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That'd be lit. Besides that, what else has changed? We got Alex since the last time that, uh... Yeah, yeah. How is a...

So dedicated editor, right? Honestly, kind of a little bit of everything, but mainly editing. Yeah, so Alex edits probably four out of five videos in the main channel. Okay. Some of the, like the last minute videos, I edit those myself. And then Alex is, yeah, he helps here on the podcast too. And random stuff. Like we're trying to get a pergola made in the back.

And I'm like, Alex, go to town. Give me a pergola. Yeah. And then the other thing. It's like a gazebo type. A little gazebo Gozbo. Oh, good.

For shade. A gazebo. Yeah, it's on your shit out there. And then Alex helped me frame the goosebumps books. So I bought like the entire series of goosebumps in mint condition. And I wanted them framed to put a wall. And God, the frames were three times more expensive than the books were. Wow.

Yeah. Build your own. That's awesome. Yeah, that's sweet. Yeah. So, yeah, it was $1,800 for the three frames. For three? Yes.

Did you get a custom made? Yes. They had to be. Because they have to fit the width of the width of the. the book. So the books don't get damaged. It's basically like this piece of foam that they cut out in the exact shape of the book. And then they put the book in there and seal it together.

I got, that's a lot of money. Yeah. But that's really cool. I consider it like art. I like the Goosestone's books. Yeah. That's a cool. That's like the Pokemon card poster you got.

Yeah. That's sick. So I thought it's like art. And for like an art piece of collectible books, I thought it was pretty cool. Yeah. That's quite sweet. Yeah. Would you ever, uh,

outsource your editing Michael? It's hard because I do that weird thing where I go like back and forth. So it's, I don't think I could. Like it's maybe for like a huge chunk where it's really annoying and I just need to do the rough, rough cut stuff. I have a hard time like trusting others though. Not just in YouTube in my life. But yeah, I think it would be hard with the way I film. So it's not something I am looking for right now.

Like it's, if anything, it would be like someone to help me with, like, engineering, stuff that I am bad at, like mechanical and electrical. Probably my weakest bits of engineering. So maybe, maybe like a really good, what is that, me, me engineer, mechanical, electrical engineer. Yeah. Yeah, that would be cool. The ride that steals the spotlight every time it hits the road, that's the Volkswagen Tiguan. Its sleek exterior makes a first impression you can't ignore. Step inside to find available full leather seats and wood accents.

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I think that's what you need. No one full-time, no editor. But just a smart person to help you on the side with, like, researching stuff or, like, helping you pull some of these things together, like, graphs, and just stuff like this that you could work with somebody on to speed up the process. Yeah, that might be cool. Someone local who will work, like, any hours. Like, you're like, hey, come over at 1 a.m.

Yeah. We're going to be working on this. Be like, yeah. I've been thinking about it. I've been playing with that idea. It would be, like, really helpful for some bits. Like, just my, like, putting together in my garage. after I move.

It's still not together. It's taking so much time. See, something like that. Just a jack of all trades and pay them $69,420 a year. Yeah. That'd be sweet. And that's what they make. But it's just odd hours, just be ready anytime.

Fuck, that's all. Just be on call 24-7. Don't call me. I'll just call you. When you get that call on this cell phone, then you drop everything and you come work. Oh, man. Like one of those. Yeah, that would be cool to have.

What would you say motivates you? I don't know. Memes. Memes? Like, what is something that you aspire to do in this somewhat near future, something you want? Memes. Memes. Yeah.

Do epic trolling. No, I don't know. I have no near future goal. Finish this fucking video for the love of God. And then do another one really fast afterward so that I don't wait another year. Why do you wait a year? Because I guarantee in a year, there must have been some idea that... Well, this one was just painful.

This one, not painful, but like, took a lot of time. Grueling. There was a lot of, like, time-based aspects that I could not change by, like, working more efficiently. Like, it has to trade stocks for a month or two. Yeah. Just getting everything together, learning how to use, like, a stock market API, figuring out, like, the workflow of it. It was a lot, yeah. So, ideally, I start faster again.

Maybe work more efficiently, because there's a bunch of shit that I want to do. But I'm slow and shitty. Yeah. So, yeah. My favorite video from yours was the Roomba video. Thanks. Yeah, that was my favorite one. I think if you did another one of those, I think, I think something involving a Tesla. Yeah.

Something the fart noise, the horn, like something like that. I made my Tesla a Roomba. Cleans up salt flats. Just something like that. Or, you know, the Tesla peas or the Tesla's... It's beer. If someone gets too close to the car, like something happens, I don't know. It shoots them and kills them.

But you know what? Yeah. I'm going to make a boxing glove with a gun in it. Like, yeah, maybe, maybe not. But like, in LA, there's all those car thefts right now. Like, people are complaining like cars are getting broken into. Maybe you set up your Tesla, like a bait car. And like, if they break and steal something, the Tesla, I don't know.

That would be crazy. I bet you that would be dangerous and illegal, though, if you set up your car as a bait car. And then as soon as it, like, it started taking off, you blared music, like, super loud. Or some meme songs. Some horrible and dangerous. That would be so funny. Yeah. You have as soon as they get in, you have a jump a hill.

Or, yeah, you have to remote control it. The cop sound track. And drive it straight to the. What you're going to do? What's you're going to do? So they know. These are dangerous ideas. I think my, like, the maximum you can go with that,

if you ever seen the video of the guy who did that with bikes. Yeah. And you've got to tie the rope to it. And it's like, yeah. And there's one where there was a taser attached. It might have been fake. Yeah. But that's like an awesome idea.

that I wish I could do that or maybe like no because then you're hurting people yeah that's the thing like a piston to throw them off the bike hilariously launch him into like a pool of water yeah yeah that would be funny but then you're like that's like loss right you can't hurt anybody yeah yeah the most he could probably do is like I don't know if you guys saw um I think was it was it Dustin from smyr every day where he made like a a bicycle but the handlebars were reversed oh yeah I did see It's like the peddling was backwards, right? No, it was like the actual handlebar. Yeah, you turn it right and it goes left.

Yeah. Oh, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That would be funny to watch people steal. Like, yeah, that would be funny. And then they get on and they try to, yeah. That is a good idea, yeah. You should do that.

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