The Iced Coffee Hour - David Dobrik Owes His Fortune To THIS MAN | Jason Nash

Episode Date: March 21, 2023

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Sometimes you get like 10K for like a six second vine. I was just doing stand-up one night. David was in the audience. Just knew that there was something there for sure. He just goes, Jay, I got it. We're going to bury you in the backyard. But first, before we go into that, we got to thank today's sponsor, Creative Juice. Look, if you're a creator, you probably realized, unfortunately, that creating content

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get back to the video. What did you get from Starbucks? What is that? I get a triple espresso with almond milk every morning. Every morning? Yeah. Yeah, I don't like cold brew. It gives me a headache. Really? Yeah. I don't like cold brew. Why? Why is that? I think it's something about the way that it, I don't know how, you know, the way it's pulled out. Yeah. In the cold, it fucks me up. How do you guys feel about energy drinks? Not a fan. I feel like they got to be so unhealthy. They make me kind of sick. Yeah. It depends what it is. Red Bulls I could kind of see, but I don't like the taste. It has a very, like, uh, you know, citricy taste.

Yeah. But then you get into like the monster energies and that sort of stuff. I don't, like, rock star where you, like, the can where you have like twisted off the top. Yeah. I tell you what's delicious is that that prime energy drink. Yeah. Prime energy. It's delicious.

But it, it like, sends you off. I've had it before. I think it's actually, it's really sweet. I'm surprised how they got it so sweet only being like 20 calories. Yeah, but it's aspartame, isn't it? I think so. Yeah. I don't know what's in it.

So it's the artificial sweetener that has no calories. It tastes really sweet, though. Right. The downside with that, apparently, is that if you could control it, it's really good. But it activates something, and I could be totally wrong in this, it activates something that it's like a sweet gland in your brain that makes you more likely to want sweet foods after that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, like, that's the danger.

If you could just, like, contain it, it might be okay, but, like, you'll be craving other sweet things afterwards. And that's kind of weird. Yeah, I could see that. where the danger comes in. That happens with Diet Coke with me. Yeah. Oh, Diet Coke is addicting, man. Yeah, it's dangerous.

It's so good. It's so good. I'm curious, though, has your caffeine, coffee intake and your diet changed recently? Because I saw that you went through this, like, incredible transformation with fitness. Oh, yeah. And you're, like, really jack now, like the six-pack. Yeah, yeah, I'm trying. Do you still have a six-pack?

Sort of. Really? Yeah, it comes and goes. It depends on, like, to have a six-pack, you have to just really limit your calories. So I have like a two and a four pack, but then the lower is... It's tough. It's tough. Yeah, I have to really, really watch what you eat. And so that's what I did.

I was just really heavy and I was just like, and I just felt awful all the time. And then I just got to be, I'm going to be 50 in May. And I just got to be like, okay, I got to really just try to clean up my life. And so I just started to, yeah, I just like, slow. I slowly got down to like a really specific diet and just eating the same thing every day or the same types of foods every day. And yeah, and I'm just much happier that way. Cool. You know, it's almost like a like an alcoholic who's like, yeah, like I would love to have a drink.

But, you know, my life is way better without alcohol, you know. So I'm just, I'm just that way with food. So I'll just, I'll go off. Like I will, I will eat in the middle of the night. I'll sleep eat. What's sleep eating? Sleep eating is like when you just wake up in the middle of the night and like like start eating. Really?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But isn't that wake you up though? Does it wake me up? Yeah. I mean, I'm up. I remember it. Okay. But I'm still doing it.

I'm just like it's so. Is there a reason behind why you want food at that time? Yeah. I just have like an addiction to food like since I was a child. Like just, uh, you just like food is so comforting to me. That's, that's why. So I think that's why. And, you know, it sucks because, like, I was fat as a kid.

And, yeah, you just got to, like, I just keep working on it. It's a struggle. It's every day. What was the big change for you? Because it was a pretty abrupt shift. It seems like my perspective. Well, I'll tell you what a really big thing was was my friend Ilya. Yeah.

He started this, like, fitness company. And he started to get everybody in shape. And all those guys that I'm friends with, they're just like a lot younger than me. and there was just probably just something in me that was just like, oh, you know, I can do it too, you know. Yeah. So when you're like around that and, you know, it makes it fun and it feels good, you get like a dorphin rush.

And then so it just became a thing like every morning, just going out with Todd and hiking, doing Runyon every morning. And you just become addicted to it. You become addicted to that high. And then, yeah, you just keep working. working at it. And the more you, the more you go into like a, a workout journey, you can see that you can like, oh wow, I'm going deeper and deeper and deeper and deeper and deeper into it. And it just, it makes you want to just like keep going. And, uh, and it just feels, it feels so good. I just

never been, I've never been happier. That's really cool. I really, I really haven't. What other changes have you noticed because of your current fitness? Oh, everything, everything. sleep better. Like I have sleep apnea. So like when like I have like a lot of like fat around like my neck and stuff, like I don't breathe at night. So I sleep better. I can walk up the stairs better.

Your clothes fit. You have more confidence. Like you know like if you're just even out at a party and you're just like, you know, you feel like I don't belong here, you know. You know, now you're like, okay, I'm the best version of me that I can be. And that allows you to like not beat yourself up. You know, so because normally I can, I can like really spiral down and be like, oh, I'm shit and I'm not, I'm not funny and I'm not this and I'm not bad and I'm not as,

especially like being around, you know, like around what we do. There's like so many fabulous people that you meet all the time, you know, like. And so you feel like, oh, I'm not as funny as them or I'm not as talented as them. So at least I know that like if I'm keeping myself in shape, I'm the best version physically. And that's one less thing that I won't beat myself off about. I'm good. Even coming here today, like I said to my fiance, I was like, oh, man, I can't work out, you know, because I'm going to do the podcast. And she was like, you look great.

She's like, don't worry about it. And I was like, okay, yeah, you're right. It's so funny. I would be on your side, I'd be like, no, you got to work out. Yeah. Honestly, I'd be like, I'd find a way to work out. Yeah. Man, see, I would be the type to cancel and just be like,

I got to hit the gym. Like that's a non-negotiable thing. Yeah. Yeah. You just, that's another part of it too. It's like you, you want to go every day.

And you need that level of commitment to feel good. Go every day. How do you prevent yourself from falling off of that? Because I know for me, if I don't keep such a disciplined, like, like output or consistency with it, I just fall off pretty easily.

So I got to be like 100% or zero. Yeah. You just have to be 100%. I guess there's just like a feeling in my brain now, which is like if I don't go do it, then I'm like disregarding all the work I've done. Yeah. So it's like, okay, I'm here today, my 172 pounds.

And but if I don't go to the gym today, then I'm like, I'm going backwards. So I don't want to go backwards. Are you going to go today after this? Well, it's kind of rainy. I love how if you correct your fitness, every other facet of your life is basically improved, what I've noticed with my personal life.

It's like I hear so many people saying, you've got to grind if you want to become successful and you should go down this avenue if you want to do this and this and this. But if they're not focusing on their health first, I think it makes it so much harder to become motivated to be successful in other facets of life. If you solve this root issue of your personal fitness,

everything else good in life will follow suit, I think. Yeah, yeah, I think so. That's what I've been trying to do is just trying to keep every area of my life. just to have balance and keep every area in check all my relationships, my working out, my work, my kids. And yeah, you have to, you have to tend to everything. You have to like, it's like a garden, you know.

It's like, okay, I'm doing this and you're feeding this and you're feeding this and taking care of this. And, yeah, it's, I don't know. It's definitely, I definitely like this age the best. This is my best age. Good. Yeah, it's the most fun. When I was younger, I would always be, like, concerned, like, where I'd be somewhere

and I'd be like, oh, I should be somewhere else or I should be doing something else. But now I've learned to just be like, oh, really good. This is what we're doing right now. Enjoy this. And, and that's it. Do you think you felt more pressure when you were younger that you had to perform at, like, the best, or you had to be busy? or what changed? Yeah, when you're younger, you, when you're younger,

you just don't, you just don't know. You're just like, I wasn't, I, I, I, we didn't have the, I didn't have like the internet back then. No. So there was, when you were, as far as a career, it was like more gatekeepery kind of stuff. So you would go to like ABC or Fox and be like, here, here's my sitcom. And you would pitch it.

And then they would say, okay, go write it. And then you would like, go write it. And then they would be like, we're not going to pick it up. And so it was just like very, you just felt stuck all the time. And so then when the internet came around and things weren't going great for me and like TV and movies, I was just like, okay, I'm going to go do this. And it was like really freeing. And then I was able to just like, you know, find some success and really enjoy what I did and enjoy life more. But when you're, when you're younger, I just feel like, I mean, I see it now with a lot of my younger

friends like they seem they seem lost in a way even though they have a lot but there's certain things that i'm like i wish i could just tell them but you can't really tell anybody you just kind of have they just have to go through yeah but you know what hold on to that for a second because i found it very interesting that in our last podcast episode 93% of her viewers were male and 87% were over the age 25 which is exactly why we're excited to thank our sponsor roman roman Roman offers science-backed treatments that are proven to either slow or completely stop hair loss. Or in some cases, even regrow it. Let's be real, losing your hair could really take a toll on your confidence.

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Visit the link down below in the description today to get your first treatment for free. Or you guys can go to row.com slash iced coffee hour to get started completely free. Thank you so much, Roman, and let's get back to the podcast. Let's talk about your story from being a kid growing up because you have a really interesting story and so many different pivots in your career to lead you, that led you to where you are right now. Can you talk about like growing up and then all the events that occurred to bring you here? I grew up in Boston in a suburb, mom and dad, great mom and dad, parents got divorced, got a sister, was like overweight as a kid, but, you know, and I was, I had friends and stuff, which was cool. I grew up with a lot of

meatheads, a lot of like Boston people that like fought and were tough. And I, I, was never tough you wouldn't fight no no no no never never why not why not yeah if everyone else is fighting like what's their what everyone else jumps on a cliff why yeah i'm just like antithetical to like how i thought i was like this is so silly like what do you guys what are you guys fighting over you know it would be like tag parties and like big brawls and i'd be like standing there you'd be watching uh yeah i was pretty clear with them i'm like i'm they were my friends but i'm like i'm not gonna fight. Like, this is so dumb. And, uh, you know, I don't know. It, it, it, it, that, that whole mentality of, you know, being a guy and like fighting and stuff, it just never,

my father was wondering me to play football. I just didn't want to. I was like, I'm not going to go out there and get hit. Are you crazy? What was it in you that made you that way? Like, I'm a pussy. All right. I don't think that's, you know, you could be a pacifist. You could be not about fighting. You know, you don't want to harm people. Like, I mean, there are, you know, good sides to the token. It just felt so, it just felt so dumb. I mean, I guess in a way, like, I was a bit of a, I was, I was, I felt like I was above it. Sure.

I mean, that's probably a good thing. As long as you're fighting. I'm being honest, but I probably felt like I was a little snobby. Like, honestly, like, is this what we're doing, guys? Because I was into, like, I was into, like, comedy and stuff. I was into, like, Saturday Night Live, and I was into, like, comic books and, like, just any kind of comedy movie stuff like that.

But no one else, I had a lot of comedy albums and I would show my friends. I'd be like, oh my God, this is Eddie Murphy Raw. You know, and they'd be like, yeah, it's funny, I guess. So it's just, there was just kind of like, and that was the great thing about

movie to LA and stuff. It's like you met people that like, you were, like, if you were like a comedy nerd here, you were like celebrated. Like there was like, many people that were like into that kind of thing or when I moved to LA people would be like you know just the idea of like going to see a stand-up comedian live was like oh wow like that's awesome like you guys like to do that like that's great so that was that was really cool to find that I mean

my favorite thing that I've done in the last couple years other than be with my kids is just go see we saw Dave Chappelle at the Hollywood Bowl that's cool like it was just you know when you go to a concert and you're like it's good yeah but then you're kind of in and out. You're like, I don't really like this song. Like, oh,

I like this song, the song. That's happening. Yeah, yeah. Dave Chappelle's like, every minute. And I was just like, you know.

So, yeah. What was that like moving to L.A.? Like what prompted that? We got to finish the story right here. Okay. I know. I'm at the L.A.

So you're in high school. You're not fighting people. No. You like comedy. No, I played a little basketball, but it wasn't good. And,

uh, I was on the team. And they would never let me shoot the ball. they would just let me rebound. And yeah, then I just went to college, made some really good college friends. And then I was in college and I got a, I applied for an internship at Saturday Night Live. And went down to my mother drove me from Boston to New York. And then I met on Dateline and I met on Saturday Night Live.

And I went on Saturday Night Live. I wore like a three-piece suit. I remember my mom bought me a suit at Marshalls. and uh and i walked in to saturday live and i was like oh like like no one wears a three-piece suit this i look like a total door and uh because it's like it's it's saturday live it's like it was like uh born on like counterculture like no people were just walking around and like you know sneakers whatever but then they they they gave me the internship and then i worked there then i work for norm mcdonald that is so yeah that was that was that was that was the best what were you doing for norm

I was just Like, it's just as assistant Just faxing jokes Literally faxing Taking, taking the, taking the, When they would do update, they'd have like lots of people

Send in jokes. So just organizing the jokes And then wanting him, he would go through them. He had like a cigarette in his mouth. And, um, yeah. So that was fun. I did that.

And then I started performing when I was like, like, like 23. Started doing like standup and characters and did a little UCB. What were your characters? I used to do a guy called The Shaman. That was a Jim Morrison, a guy that was in a Jim Morrison cover band. Okay. I did a lot of, I used to do my girlfriend who was like really emotional.

I don't know. I did all kinds of dumb characters. But yeah, and then, yeah, I moved to L.A., did stand up, tried to act, made a couple movies. and then when I was in I was just doing stand-up one night at the improv and David was in the audience and then he talked to me after

he's like oh you should come to YouTube and I was like oh okay and I was like oh yeah it's like just knew that there was something there for sure it sounded so fun

you know and I remember I was kind of like I was like 43 at the time I think and I was like I can't do YouTube I'm like 40, And he was like, oh, why not? Like, just go do it. And he, I really, really owe him my life. He was, he was, like, so, he was so great because he, he just, I remember he said to me,

he was like, oh, how much money do you need to make a month? And I was like, well, you'll like this. You like to talk about money. Here we go. And he goes, I remember I was in his car. And he, we had been working together for a couple weeks. Like, he kept calling me every day because he, he was posting a lot. He's supposed to like three times a week.

And he was like, I, he just knew. needed a lot of content. So I was like, oh, yeah, I'll go, I'll go. I was having a lot of fun. He's like, how much money do you need to make a month? And I was like, I need like $5,000 a month, which I thought was insane. And he was like... You had two kids at that point, too, right?

Yeah, two kids, yeah. And I was completely broke. And he was like, oh, you can make $5,000 a month. And I was like, what? I was like, no, no way. And he was like, yeah, just like start a channel. And I was like, oh, man, I don't know. And so then, like, I made like a very...

very, very bad first YouTube video with him. And then maybe like four months later, I was making like $35,000 a month. Really? Yeah. Wow. Now, before that, though, weren't you? I called my ex-wife. Yeah.

I was like, she's like, we need, I need money for something. And I was like, oh, fuck. And I was like, oh, I got it. I got it. No problem. She's like, well, what? How? And I was like, oh, I'm making like $35,000 a month.

There was just like a long silence on the end of the phone. She was like, what? And it felt so good. So yeah. Oh my gosh. It was crazy, crazy, crazy. Now what about before that, though? Weren't you doing Vine?

Or was that at the same time? Oh, I did. I did Vine for a couple years. And I did okay on Vine. I was making like, I probably make like one year I made like $250,000, $300,000. Through what? Sponsors and stuff like that? So you'd get like, you'd be surprised.

Sometimes you get like 10K for like a six second vine. Which I, this is insane, right? But what year was that? Because this was like at the very beginning. of where like all of this was taken on. I know exactly when it was. It was, I started with YouTube the end of 2017.

Okay. And Vine, this must have been like, probably my best year on Vine was maybe 2015 or 2016. Wow. And then it was, but then it all crashed. Like,

I've had so many ups and downs. Like literally, I had three million on Vine and things were going great. Yeah. And off that Vine success, someone gave me a movie. They're like, I wrote a movie and they,

They funded it, and I was like, okay, cool. And then the movie took, like, a really long time to make and to come out and blah, blah, blah. And then the day the movie came out, Vine was erased. So... What was that like for you and Vine just, like, disappeared? Yeah, I sold six copies of the movie, and Vine was gone on the same day. So then I was like, oh, no. I was like, I didn't know what I was going to do.

So then I started installing speakers at speaker conventions. I would, like, set up things. And then I was like, all right, I'll just... and that was like a month where I was like, I don't know what I'm going to do. And then right after that, I met David doing stand-up. Wow.

Yeah. But it was cool. It was just like, you know, that's something I always tell people to is like, I was at my lowest, lowest, lowest, lowest. And I was just like,

oh, I'm going to go do stand-up. I was like, that always makes me feel better. I love that. And sure enough, if I hadn't gone and done stand-up that night, like I wouldn't be sitting here with you guys, you know.

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What drew you to David at that point? Because this was, didn't he just start the channel then? So he was doing really good before I started with him. He already had like 3 million. Okay. Something like that. And he was getting like really good views. And I would watch them because I knew about him.

It was just really funny. The day that I met him, I had been watching his vlogs that day. And I was like, oh, I was like, because I knew him a little bit from Vine. And I was like, good for him. I was like, he figured something. out and it's like completely original i thought and it's always friends and his friends are funny and he did you know and i was like i was like he figured it out good for him because he was always really funny yeah and then that night i met him like there's been a lot of weird like that in my life that

just weird kismit right place right time and so much of it is just like um you got to you got to like keep, it just goes back to even like the working out thing. You gotta just keep showing up. You gotta just keep going and just keep trying and hopefully like you're prepared when something breaks. I really appreciate and I think it's really nice for you to think that you like, oh, David, your life or whatever you said earlier. But at the same time, so I was a pretty avid viewer of David's videos like ever since the beginning. I thought you had honestly an irreplaceable role. I thought you were let's say like a table can't I guess it can stand on three legs

but it wouldn't be very stable at all you know that's nice you to say I really think you were one of the most important aspects of David David's videos and he I really don't think he could have done what he did without his friends at all definitely definitely not without his friends but I'll counter that and say that

he's a master of just he'll he can pull in what he needs for the video so if it wasn't me David would have found something else that was just as funny because he won't he won't post anything until it's amazing yeah but if he's that great then he picked you for a reason right yeah yeah yeah exactly because because you were really good the thing that I loved about the thing that I really love most about David is just that he we had

the same sense of humor not and that was really really really really nice to be to just know that like whatever he said I was going to think was funny and whatever I said he was going to think was funny and to like mesh like that with somebody, even though he's like 20 years younger than me, was really cool. Like that was, that's the best creative partnership I've had. That's awesome.

Him and, and Brandon Calvio is really fun. Like Brandon always has like really great Instagram sketches that he'll like bring to me and it would like, will you be in this? And I'll be like, yeah, that's really funny.

So, I think you deserve a lot of credit. Oh, thank you. That's nice. That's nice. That's nice. Yeah,

I don't, I don't think of it that way. That's the comic in me. Like I don't, I never think, you never think you're funny for long, you know? like you know when you like tell a joke and like you like people laugh yeah and it's like oh it's over

you know you have that you have you have you have that second yeah where you're like ha ha ha that it's ending yeah and then it's like oh it's what's the next yeah thing what's your process for coming up with jokes like how do you do that uh for jokes i don't know i mean like when we do the roast and stuff yeah or anything like when it comes to comedy like what's the what's the creative process look like like how do you do you do you do you do you How do you decide whether or not something's going to be funny or how do you test it out? It's usually like an area. When you're like talking to somebody and you're like, oh, that'd be a funny stand-up joke or that'd be funny for a video.

You just tell people. You tell people the idea. And if they laugh, then you're like, okay, there's something there. Like I'm trying to think of something that we're working on. working on. Oh, I was working on this idea the other day. Like, um, like, we take this yoga class and the girl's a great teacher. She's really good. And she's really like, she's very zen, like yoga's supposed to be really zen. But she's also like pretty pissed off at everybody. So like, we were just saying, like, she'll come in and she'll be like, she'll be like, how you guys,

she's, how's everybody doing today? And like, no one will answer. And she'll be like, okay, I'll just go fuck myself. You know, like, so it's just that. So there's something funny there, I think, It's a dichotomy. A dichotomy of like a yoga teacher that's supposed to be super zen. That's like pretty pissed off that like no one's paying attention, you know. Your career was a lot more tumultuous than you made out. Like you have some pretty interesting pivots. There was a time I was a kid.

I was tuning into my favorite show. Yeah. Drake and Josh. Oh, Drake and Josh. And you were in Drake and Josh. That's such a fun. That's such a funny thing because you guys, your age, see it that way. Like, whoa, he had a line in Drake and Josh.

But I saw it as like. I was like broke and I had a friend who was a writer on the show and he was like, oh, let me see if I can get you some money. Come in. You can come today and have one line and make, I don't know, $500. $500 for one line? Yeah. It's something like that.

Wow. It was like, you know, like 600. So yeah. And so you just go and you're just like, I had a lot of jobs like that. You just go and you like sit there. Then you go in and do the one line and you're in very like very low status. there because the stars are there. And yeah, I didn't really, I don't really enjoy,

I don't really enjoy, like, sitting on a set that much. I really like, like, creating and doing YouTube. I thought that was the coolest thing, because I grew up with you in, like, in, like, high school, right? Like, I grew up watching, like, your vines and everything, and I saw you on David's vlogs and everything. And then come to realize that was you in the famous Drake and Justin. I'm like, well, I grew up with him, apparently a lot longer than I thought.

No, no, you're just, like, totally embarrassed when you're doing it. You're like, oh, my God, I can't believe I'm here this. I love it. It's funny because everyone else who sees that thinks it's the coolest thing. Yeah, they think it's cool. Yeah. You're just like, I gotta get home. That's the guy from Drake and Josh.

Have you ever been recognized as the person from Jake and Josh and not from TikTok or Vime? No. No, no, no one's ever been like Drake and Josh. You're the best scene ever. No, it's never happened. They've mentioned Drake and Josh only because I think they made a big deal out about it in the vlogs. But like I remember, I think like David put it in the vlog or something. So people will say it like Drake and Josh, like you.

Yeah. But yeah, it was just a job that day. And I remember the guy, they, they remember they threw a cake and the cake crashed. And we were like done. And then they said, oh, no, no, no. They throw a cake on somebody on a woman. And she gets covered in cake. And apparently they didn't get the shot.

So the woman had to go back, take off all her, you know, put off, do her makeup all over again. And then redo the cake. And I was just like, oh. Do you get residuals? for that or was it like 500 box one time thing? Greg and Josh, do I still get residuals? Yes. Yeah.

And you know it's funny when when things were, when David's vlogs were on and those checks were bigger. It was really weird. Maybe I think when Josh came into the vlogs, there was like a spike in interest in Drake and Josh. I could see that. So then those residual checks that were like. $7, they would be like $200. $200?

Yeah, yeah. It's really weird. So how much do you think you've made in totality from your, what was it like? From acting? 15, no, from your 15 second clip in Drake and Josh or however long it was. I probably made like, you know, $3,000. $3,000. That's a good, that's a great day.

Yeah, that's pretty good over the years. It's nice. They take care of you after. Wow. That's the, after's the, what is it? It's the processor. out of the acting guild. Yeah, it's the acting guild. Yeah, after and SAG after. And I got another question about Norm Macdonald because I'm a huge fan of Norm. I don't know if it's sac religious for you to say this, but like, was he the same all the time? Was he always that kind of like aloof type? Like, yeah, he was like a real loader. He was like a real, I think he, I think he went and did like stand up in like so many places and so many weird places and that he, he was like, he became, um, very, what's the word, solitary, you know, like he just didn't need anyone else because he was,

he just was so funny. And so when I knew him, he, he was great. He was really nice to me and he took me everywhere, but he, he definitely had like an attitude like, um, I don't need anyone, you know, and which he was that good. He was that good. Yeah. So it was a very like lone, lone wolf kind of guy. But he was also really fun. he would gamble and he would he would love to like play uh soccer in the hallways and he'd love to play basketball even though he wasn't like that athletic and um he yeah my my best norm story is uh we all went out one night and i was really young i was like 21 whatever and um i ended up going home with this girl and then the next day i came in to norm because i was like really new to the city

like living in New York, I didn't really know. And I turned up and I said, oh my God, I said, this girl, she put cocaine on my cock last night. Amazon presents Jeff versus Taco Truck Salsa, whether it's Verde, Roja, or the orange one. For Jeff, trying any salsa is like playing Russian roulette with a flamethrower. Luckily, Jeff saved with Amazon and stocked up on antacids, ginger tea and milk. Habaniero, more like habanier, yes. Save the everyday with Amazon. And I said, I'm going to tell you this, but don't tell anyone. And he goes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I won't tell anyone. That's so good. And he, I go, she put cocaine on my cock. And he was like, oh, my God.

He's like, that's insane. And then, like, five minutes later, like the UPS guy came in with, like, a bunch of packages for him. And he was like, hey, Norm. And he was like, hey, Norm. And he was like, hey, Jerry, this is Jason, the intern. He's like, the guy likes cocaine on his cock. I was like mortified. And then he did that for like the next, you know, three months. He would just, you just be sitting. You'd be in like a high pressure situation.

Yeah. You'd be like maybe handing him jokes or something and right before he'd about to go on. And he would like turn to the page and be like, hey, you know, Jason likes cocaine on his cock? Dude. That impression is spot on. That's really good. A lot of people can do it normally.

It's pretty easy to do. Really? I couldn't do it. I couldn't do it. I couldn't do it. I'm not even going to try. He can't even do it. He was the best.

He was learned so much from him. I don't know. He's just the funniest. And then as the years went on, just watching him like do all his stand-up sets and stuff and watch his specials. I still watch it. I watch this talk show appearances all the time. Really?

Him on Conan. Yeah. They're epic. Like talk show appearances, I don't think a lot of people realize. Like, a lot goes into those. Like, those are comedic sets. that they've crafted.

They're not stand-up. They're not doing their stand-up back. They're crafting something completely new, you know, to do right there. And I'm always, like, really interested in that. Yeah, like a nightly basis, too. There's a lot of content that goes in on. Yeah, well, Norm would be on Conan or Letterman, like, maybe, I don't know, maybe three times a year, something like that.

But still, yeah, they're fun to watch if you go back and watch them. And I guess that was what gave him a real, resurgence was um because he wasn't on tv anymore but what was really giving him this resurgence was these youtube clips of him on conan and that would like fill the seats and stuff that was what i heard him say at least yeah yeah because they are great they're spectacular and his last letterman said it's spectacular um so yeah i got a question about edginess yeah comedy yeah yeah yeah how does norm get away with saying the things that he said like why because a lot of people they pick and choose their villains. And I feel like Norm was just one person. Everybody was like, we're just going to let

him say whatever he wants to say. He's a harmless dude. He would do this really cool thing, we're really smart thing, which was he would, towards later in his career, I would watch him, he would kind of blame it on someone else. You know what I mean? He had this, he has this talk show on YouTube. It's like called the, it's a podcast called the Norm MacDonald podcast. I can't remember what it's called, but it's really good. It's so good. And at the end of the show, they would read jokes. And he would read these, the most offensive jokes. And the guests would be like, oh, my God, that's so offensive.

I mean, oh, my God, who wrote this? You know, like, so he would, but he wrote it. Yeah. You know, so he found ways to, like, pass it off or, um, yeah, he just got around it. Smart. Yeah. You feel like people have become softer now for comedy. Like, they have to be a little bit more PC and a little bit more, like, appropriate for all ages.

I feel like people have gotten a little bit more, uh, you know, sensitized to comedy right now. Like when you watch Eddie Murphy back in like the 80s and 90s, it's totally like you can't say a lot of that stuff today. It's so, it's so tough to say like, I know that there's an audience for it. Like when you go and you like see like live stand up

and you see somebody be go really out there like Bill Burr like Tom Seguer or somebody like that, like there's, they love it. They love it. People love the idea of going into a comedy club and like hearing something that even more so now because they're like oh wow now we can like we're in this place where we can really say anything but i have noticed that like you know my younger friends like yeah there's there's there's a softness that's there um and you know you just i just try to

i kind of like walk the balance i'm like okay like i understand you know you want to be that's you don't think that's funny but some people think this is funny so yeah it's tough and youtube is different than stand-up and is different is different than podcasting and they're all they're all just so different you know there's stuff you can because you have the comments so if you want to say something that's like really insane on your podcast it's it could blow up in your face but in stand-up you know that's what they're there to do they're there to really go out there and uh yeah i think with stand-up too right now it's easy to take clips without any context whatsoever yeah yeah Like a 60-second clip, put it up, so it's like, what?

They said what? Yeah. I know. I hate doing TikToks. Like, we did a video yesterday. It was like another workout video. And Dave Portnoy had talked about me on his show, BFFs. And the first time he talked about me was when I was heavier.

And he was like, the guy looks old. He looks gross. And which I thought was funny. I was like, oh, that's cool. I don't care. They're talking about me. I do look gross. He said it looked like a mother or whatever.

And he was doing this whole bit where he was like, I look way better than this guy, you know. It's a good impression. Which he does. How do you do that, man? And then he goes, and then maybe like a year later I got in shape and they pulled my pictures up again. And they were like, Dave was like, I think he looks weird.

I think he looks. I think he said I look weird. I think it looks strange. A guy that old is all. And so, like me and my friends were dying. And Josh Richards was like, I think he looks good, you know? Yeah. You know, Josh?

Yeah. And so they were kind of talking about it. And so I was, I thought it was funny, but that I was also kind of like, yo, that's fucked up. And that he talked about me twice in a negative light after I did all this work. So then in the video, which we put out yesterday, I do this roast of him. And the roast was pretty good. Like, you know, we wrote it and it's good roast. And people like the video, whatever.

But then like this morning I had to, the video, we had to put out a TikTok like of, of the roast, but like I didn't really want to put that rote, that TikTok out. Yeah, you know what I mean? Yeah, because someone's going to go and just see that and be like, oh, fuck, Jason Nash, it's Dave Portnoy. You know? Yeah. So it's, I don't, I don't love the internet in that regard. I try to stay away from stuff like that, but, um, because I love Dave Portnoy.

And I'm not trying to, and I don't like any kind of internet beef or anything like that. Like I think it's really stupid. And I think it makes people look really dumb. And it just, you just drown each other out, you know. But, but yeah, so I don't like, I don't like that. I don't like clipping things and taking things out of context, like you said. Yeah. I get that.

I think, too, I've had a few clips taken to me where it's like completely out of context. You can make anything appear however you want it to appear, basically, with clips. But I'm sure you could also do it in a right way, too, of getting the right message across in 60 seconds, where you could do the roast and like get a few good jokes in there, but add context in the beginning. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. And add context in the beginning, yeah, which we did in one of the TikToks, but in one of them we didn't.

Let's talk a little bit more about this YouTube journey because, you know, you were making 250K on Vine. You went to making nothing. Yeah. Or I shouldn't say nothing, just an honest living. No, nothing, because it was dead. It was gone. It was dead and gone.

And then after that, you went to installing speakers, making just a, you know, a modest living. I'm sure doing that. And then all of the sudden, this whole David thing happens. He sees you at an improv bar. Three months later, you're making 35K a month. Something like that, yeah. Something like that.

Yeah, four or five months later. Where'd you go from there? I listen to Howard Stern. And I remember that there was a guy on there who was his side guy. His name was Jackie Martling. And I remember listening to Howard and being like, and Jackie left the show. And Howard was always like, Jackie left. He had such a good thing.

You know, so that always stuck with me. Like, so when I met David, I always thought like, oh, wow, I have such a good thing here. Like, you know, like, I love hanging out with them. I love being with them. I love making the videos. So from there, I just was like, this is like a once in a lifetime lightning in a bottle situation that won't be around forever. You know, so let's just, I'll do this for the next few years, you know. And he was so, he was so focused on it and stuff.

And I really needed to, you know, pay for my kids and stuff in my life. So I was really focused on it. So I wasn't into partying and he didn't drink either. So we were just every day just trying to make that vlog. And, you know, the truth of it was is that his vlog did so well that that's why my vlogs did well. You know, so I didn't put so much effort into my vlogs. I would just kind of like kind of slice the life, lifestyle stuff. and then I put a lot of the focus on his vlog

because that seemed to be like the that was the thing that was feeding everything. So I looked at it as being on like a TV show a little bit. Like if that TV show is doing well then I can go do anything. I can go do stand-up.

I can sell tickets. I can sell merch. This might sound stupid, but people on his vlogs, were they ever paid to be on the vlogs or was it more so you get to appear? But you'll draw in such a big audience that that'll trickle over to everything.

None of the friends were ever paid and there were people that were paid to yeah there's things you would have to pay for like if you hired like an actor for something you know maybe we would pay them or David would pay them but no they were never paid but also David never I know some people that take a cut and David never took money from anybody

and he certainly could have asked for that you know so I always felt like it was quite the fair trade to go and film with him for, you know, a couple times a week and suddenly have like a huge Instagram to have a big Snapchat. Um, I thought it was a pretty fair trade, you know. Yeah. And then what did a day look like in, like a day of filming for you?

Let's say like David's like, yeah, let's go. Let's go shoot something. What time are you up? Like, so fun. What? Yeah. Oh, so fun. The most fun I've ever had in my life.

Like that just so incredibly fun. Like it. would be like, I mean, the most fun was when he would be, he would be like editing on, he would post Monday, Wednesday and Friday. And he would post like Wednesday at 5 o'clock. He'd be like, he would be editing it like up to the wire. And my vlog would like already be out. And then, my man would, he would post it. Your views would die. What's that? Oh, I thought you were going to say your views would die. Oh, no, no, no. My views go, your views go higher. All of your

Revers are just going straight to David It's the reverse No but he would post it And I would be around the corner At my computer And I would just want to watch it And I would like turn on his vlog And I would be at my computer

He's in the other room And I would like start watching it And I'd be 30 seconds into the vlog And he'd be in his jacket Black baseball hat Camera in his hand And he'd be like let's go And I'd be like

Oh man okay And then we'd go out and So there's no downtime No no down time No, no, no, enjoy the moment. So fun. But doesn't he track the performance of each video and just see, like, how it's doing in relation to the other videos? Yeah, he listened on his phone and look at it and, like, make me look at the comments or whatever.

And, yeah, he would definitely track it. That work ethic, though, is incredible. I remember he came to a party that I was at. This must have been 2018, something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He showed up with his camera. And I think you were not there, but there were two other people with him. And he kind of looks around and then he leaves.

and I was talking to someone there and I said, why do you just leave? Like, he walked in and left within a minute. Well, there's probably no content. Like, he needs content right now. Yeah, yeah, you just need content. He would go everywhere to scout for like what's going to make the best story

and what's going to be like interesting to film. If it's not there, like he's not just there to socialize. Like he wants something that he wants to put a piece together that he's really happy with. Yeah, I think that was just for, that's just time reasons. He just needed to get it. We just needed to get it out. Yeah.

Three videos a week. There's just no time. I didn't realize it was three. week. For some reason, I was thinking it was once a week. Yeah, so like if you post Monday at 5 o'clock and you're trying to post Wednesday at 5 o'clock and you have. So now you have Monday night, Tuesday, and then you have to edit all day on Wednesday. And you're out late Tuesday night. So you're waking up at 11. Well, I'm not because I'm taking my kids of school, but he's waking up at 11 and then he's, yeah, he's going to

edit all day. So you really just have like Monday night, Tuesday to try to put together something funny and something it's so hard what was the idea creation like you know like anything we would just take anything from any anywhere and it seemed that the best ideas were the ones that were like just based in reality you know like sketches didn't really work we tried to do some sketches they weren't funny and just like and it we really would take from anything anything that we could think of or um good ideas were pretty hard to come by like towards the end they were just like I remember he had a really really crazy idea once he was just staring he was staring on the back of his house the sliding glass doors and his back was to me he just goes jay i got it

we're going to bury you in the backyard it's just like which is like makes you feel all kinds of ways like the first way is like literally the first thing i thought was damn that's good and the second thing I thought was, oh, God, I got to get buried. Was that before or after Mr. Beast got buried alive? Because I believe that... I think it was before. I think that would have been before. So he came up with the idea before Mr. I think so. Well, the way we did it was way different than Mr. Beast.

Either way, it's a different idea. This was, I'm buried, and there's something over my head. And then you pull up and everybody goes, holy shit, there's somebody buried in the ground. Mr. Beast is like really a testament to Mr. Beast. Yeah. You know, like his fortitude. So, yeah, so. That's funny.

But that was good. That was a great bit, but the, and I was fine. But then after being buried underground for a while, you, the weight of the soil really gets to you. So that was really, so they, I was like having them dig me out. Isn't it hard to breathe? It wasn't, I've been buried in the sand before. Like, you do feel that pressure of just like, you can't move and you're stuck. No, I was okay.

I was okay. It just got heavy after a while. And then Vardon had started to dig me out. But he wasn't good with a shovel. So he was like hitting me. He's like, I'll come get you, Jason. Dude, that's a good. I'll save you.

That's pretty good. His voice is different now. Yeah, no, it's deeper. His voice is lower now. Wow. Yeah. Were you ever part of a really demanding bit? Like something that took a lot out of you?

Demanding? Yeah, demanding. Like, it just required a lot of you. Like, you was like, oh, we're going to go fly over here, shoot this thing. you got to do this, Jason, and you do it all, and it's just like unused. Yeah, there's lots of bits that you like would try to, that, that you try that didn't work, it get unused. There was, there's so many.

There's so many. What sticks out to you as, as, is one of them? I mean, maybe like getting shot with a paint ball gone and it doesn't make it, something like that. It's like kind of painful, but I'm pretty good with pain. Like, I don't, uh, honestly, the hardest stuff is, uh, like flying somewhere um in no no like like taking an like uh it's it's it's it's eight it's it's eight o'clock and he's like oh we're going to go see mr beast in the morning we're taking an 11 o'clock flight to north carolina we're driving two hours to see mr beast and then we're

flying home that night that's honestly the hardest because i just like i got a family and i got a family and i can't sit on a plane and it's a lot heavier then and like you're back you're I'm old, so like your back like hurts on a plane and I, I don't know. Yeah. That's probably the hardest. A trip you went on with your ex and you went to Hawaii, right? Yeah. And you just, enjoying your time on the island.

You know, it's a lovely place, I'm sure you're having a nice relaxing time. And then someone shows up and shoots you with a paintball gun, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was awesome. What was going through your head on that? Because you weren't actually expecting that to happen, right? I think he took me to the airport. and he was like, he took him to the airport, and he's like, if I, how did it go?

Oh, I, do you remember? I don't remember. I think it was something like, like, I'm going to come to Hawaii and shoot you with a paintball guy. Would you be fine with that if I showed up in Hawaii or maybe she wanted to see him or something like that? I don't remember what it was, but like, if I showed up, would you be, would you be fine with that?

And you offhandedly said, yeah, yeah, yeah, because you didn't think you would actually do it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I would always say yes to stuff for the possibility that it could happen. It's the same thing with the marriage thing. Yeah. And yeah, and then he, I remember I was in the hotel and I got a phone call like, hey, we want to send a gift basket.

Oh, I know what it was. He said, I want to send a gift basket. What rumor are you in? Someone random called me. And right then I was like, hmm, like no one's sending me a gift basket at this hotel in Hawaii. And so then I was just like, somehow I, oh, he didn't know where I was. He didn't know what hotel I was at. he just knew I was, he, he hacked my, I know how he did it.

Yeah. He hacked my Snapchat and found my location. That was how, that was what was so great about it. I can't believe I don't remember this. But yeah, he hacked my Snapchat somehow, found my location, knew I was at this hotel. Now he needed the room number. He needed the exact room number. So then he had someone call, I have a gift basket, and I say 688.

And then as soon as I said 688, I was like, oh no. And then I heard a knock at the door. Yeah. And you knew. Right, it was on the wall. Yeah, great bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It was really awesome. What's great about those bits, too, is they weren't faked. Yeah. You know, they're not faked at all. I mean, there's, there's things that maybe if, like, someone said, if we're filming and you said a line that was, like, really funny, but the camera wasn't on. Like, we, like, would redo lines instead.

stuff, but none of those pranks are, like, that's 100% real. Like when Jonah got the movie deal, when Brandon thought there was an earthquake, when they got me on Hollywood Boulevard, there was a bunch of guys dressed in Elmo that started, like, chasing me. That was all real. Like, I was, they got me. So all that stuff's real, which is cool. How many times do you shoot down ideas, though, where I just like, hey, that's a, I'm not

down for that. Is there anything that you just, like, put your foot down on? Yeah, there's stuff that you just say no about. You're just like, that's not going to be. I don't want to do that. You just say no, that's it. You know? And then I would pitch him lots of ideas that he would say no to,

that he just didn't think were funny. Because he was the ultimate, he would be the ultimate decider in the end. My favorite video, I have to say, it's a Tesla video. We jumped it on that one. That was a recent one. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

That was my personal favorite video. Oh, yeah. And then I saw all the copycats afterwards and that one car. Do you see that? I saw that. Oh my gosh. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. A lot of coffee cats.

Yeah. You saw that one, right? Yeah, when he crashed. Yeah, when he crashed. Yeah. It's like, what are you doing? Yeah, he ate it. Like the car crashed in another car.

Gosh, I think after that, they put like a police car there for a while. Wow. Did they? Yeah, it's a crazy slope. Have you ever been there? No. It's just an insane. You know, California is so funny.

The people that haven't been here don't understand. It's just mountains and the way that the street goes up. The street basically just goes up and down. But yeah, that wasn't David driving the car. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, that was good. That was a good one.

There's lots of them. You can go on and on about them. It was really the most fun fun I ever had. And then you had a podcast with him as well. You guys had the views podcast. And that was going on for a long time. Yeah, it was doing great. Early in the podcast.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Great guests too. Yeah, with fantastic guests. Yeah. But what was interesting to me was that like I noticed you guys created the podcast and then all of the sudden everybody else started creating them. And I will say this much. I've never said this before.

View's podcast was a huge motivator and it inspired me to, uh, to ID8 the ice coffee. Oh, that's great. Yes, it was. That's awesome. I thought we started around the same, was it in the same time? No, no. No, because I would go on the runs in Santa Monica and I would listen. to views podcast.

Really? Yep. And I just thought it was so fun that you guys were just hanging out with your friends and just like, you know, talking shop. I didn't know that. Yeah, it was, it was awesome. And so I was like, oh, telling a podcast sounds kind of fun. And I feel like podcasts are great because the audience connects with people on a different level. Yeah, yeah.

And I felt really connected to you guys. Sure, the vlogs, because I felt like I was getting an inside look to your guys' lives and everything, but sure, it was a little bit more staged. And then the, not staged, but like, you meditate. Sure. Premeditated. Premeditated. But the podcast was so raw and so genuine,

and it also validated a lot of the conceptions that I had from the vlog. Yeah. And it really made me feel like I know you guys. I knew you guys. And from that point, I was like, I was like, Graham needs to connect more with his audience. I think he and I have some pretty funny banter. Yeah.

It would fun to have a podcast. That's great. The thing about the podcast that I like so much was that he was making the vlog at the same time. So there was as hard as it was to do a podcast. too, because there's just one more thing we had to do, but there was so much to talk about. It was so great. It was just so easy.

You could be like, they saw the video that day of whoever he was with, let's say he was with, like, Justin Bieber that day. And then that night, he could say, like, he could tell you a little bit more about what happened when he shot it or.

So I love that. I mean, it was really, really fun to do. I don't think we'll ever do it again. Why is that? I just, I love it, man. I don't want to speak for him, but he just doesn't like doing it. He doesn't like doing it. He's just not into it.

That's totally fine. He's just not into it. Like, I, you know. It's fair. I honestly, I did prefer it in the old, like, like, I would just do the audio anyways. Well, yeah, we did too. Once you release the video, we did too. I would just, like, consume it with just the audio.

And then once you guys switched to the video and then had like the super nice set, which I liked in the beginning. But then I honestly preferred it where it was just like all you guys. Yeah, me too. For me, that was my favorite. Wasn't that the couch? Was it the couch? Well, no.

We did some video episodes on his couch. You tried a couple video episodes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they were great, but they, he didn't like how it looked. It's just another logistical challenge as well. Whereas recording audio is just very much simpler. Yeah, and I respect David for that. Like, he just doesn't want to, he's like, I don't want to do it anymore.

And I was like, okay, cool. You know, he just told me and that's it. I still thought, man. It was fun. part of me was hoping it would come back I know I know it I would love to do it I just think we're all like they're all getting older

you know and there's I don't know they just don't have the need to do it there's not as much to talk about I think you make things to talk about yeah I'm sure your life is still just as exciting as it was during the other times in different capacities you just have to look for it yeah there's just less funny stuff going on

and that was probably what was interesting about the podcast you know it was just like there was so many funny things that were happening. And now we're just kind of like, yeah, hang out. So the end of the podcast, was it something that kind of just phased out or was it a conversation that happened where it was like, yeah, we're going to stop this? Yeah, it was just like as it was going on, we could just kind of see like, oh, it just didn't, it just wasn't the same.

And how do you justify it? People grow, people change, you know? Like, he's a young guy. He's 26, I think. So, you know, she's just like, people change. I'm sure Graham is thinking this. How do you justify stopping something that's probably extremely lucrative? Yeah.

And seemingly a net benefit on all capacities, right? Like it helps, like, keep the fan base, like, excited to hear more about you and your engagement up and you're putting more content out there. It's probably making good money. How do you justify just stopping something like that? Dave? You want to take this one? no i don't i don't know he like uh hmm well like money isn't everything right and also if you have a commitment to like a certain level of quality and you can't meet that quality then um you have to

stop um and i'm sure you guys i will do this podcast for a set amount of time and that's everything in life. Everything in life is a set amount of time. Nothing lasts forever. And at one point, you guys are going to go, yeah, why don't we break? You're going to do the podcast for more than 10 years, this one? I don't know. It depends. Yeah. In my mind, I think automatically five to 10 years, just like right off the bat. Like that's, yeah. That's great. That's great. And, and, and so I think that we reached a point where the quality was not where we wanted it. to be. And you guys might, you know, I don't know. I think, I don't know. I kind of lost my train of thought. I wish, I wish, I wish, I wish it was, I wish it was still going. I really do. But it's not.

I have a deep level of respect for, for the content you guys put out. Because every single thing was a banger. Every video, every clip, every podcast, everything was so, so good. And I think that's why he stopped. Because he felt the value was declining. If he wasn't going to put out a banger, then he's not going to do it. That's the thing. And I would say that has been, I was very impressionable to that. Yeah. And I still feel similarly. I, Graham and I have this debate every once in a while where I'm like, if we don't have a good episode to post on a Sunday, I don't want to post it. I want to make sure everything we put out there, people like, we are giving so many reasons for people to watch this content. That's great. It's educational. It's entertaining. It is like maximum value.

you possible in every measurable way. Like I am very much the type. I want everything to be perfect. And grandma's like, we got to keep up with the schedule. If we post on, like people are expecting us to post on site very much. You need both. I agree. You definitely need both. I think I think. I was the, you're David and you're me. I was kind of like, Dave, we got to post. We got to do the pod this week. We got ads. And he'd be like, oh, I don't want to. But, but yeah, you got to have both. And you have to be consistent too. So you mentioned that your finances are a bit of a wreck. Yeah.

I want to hear about this. Well, you know, I'm just like not the best with money. How so? What do you mean by that? I don't know. It's just like, I just pay, I just give away a lot of money. Why? I just have a lot of people in my life that I pay.

Do you just give them money? Or is it like an exchange of service? I have employees or like? Yeah, I have employees. I have kids basically. Okay. Yeah, that's it. Yeah.

Give your kids a lot of money? Uh, my son has my postmates. Oh. That is dangerous. Oh, I learned the other day that he has, he's had my credit card for a while. And I was like, oh, right, right, right. You didn't notice the charges? You look at your statements?

I would notice it if it was higher than I expected. Yeah, I don't look at. We order from the same places, so I wouldn't even. Oh. Yeah, but yeah, I should, I should watch that. But yeah, finances suck. I hate money. Money's like so, ugh.

I hate it. Is it why? I don't know, because it's just like when you have it, You just want to, like, give it to everybody. And then when you don't have it, you're like, man, I wish I had more money. You know what I mean? So it just kind of comes and goes. And then, like, YouTube is, things are going good now,

but it definitely, like, goes up and down. It's insane. Yeah. Yeah. Where do you think you spend the most amount of money? My mortgage? Okay. I guess.

You got a nice place. It's okay. It has a nice view, but it's very small. And I think the markets got down. I think it's... When did you buy it? Oh, you bought it a good time. I did.

Yeah, what interest rate? I don't know. I have no idea. I have no idea. I have no idea. I have no idea. I have no something like that. I really don't know.

Do you have someone that takes care of your finances, like a financial planner, manager? My 14-year-old daughter looks at, no, I don't know. No, I don't, I don't. Yeah, I have somebody. I have somebody in New York that does it, yeah. That's good. Yeah, but I don't like to get on the phone with them because I don't like to hear about it.

Really? Yeah. What do you avoid it? What if it's like, hey, your investments have done like really? I know it's not good news. I know it's not good news. Right now it's not good news, right? The markets are shit.

They're down about 20% as long as you're steadily investing, you'll be fine. Yeah. So put more money in? Just every month, just a little bit. Put a little in every month? Yeah. Oh, I haven't been doing that. Really?

I just stopped. Just call them and stop. Well, I put a bunch of money in. Yeah. And then everything went down. And I was like, all right. I did the same. I'm fucking not doing that again.

Do you know what you invested in? No. You don't know? Well, they do it. Oh, they do it. It's like Morgan Stanley or something. Okay. Yeah.

They do it. Okay. And you tell them like, here's my risk tolerance. Here's what, like, my goal is. No, I haven't talked about that. Can we call them now? Yeah. You should.

Yeah. I should call Alma right now. You should probably get on a call with them and just ask like, hey, how are these investments doing? What are you? invested in? Is that safe for you don't want to know? Because I know I've lost so much already. It'll just bump me out. Blissful ignorance. Maybe there's a way that they could, they could just like tell you without like

giving you bad news. You can't take it with you, Graham. You know what I mean? You can't take it with you. You can though. If you're going to 50 states, you have 50 states to take it to. I mean, when you die, you can't. But that's not for a very long time. Are you going to be buried with your money? I mean. I might be kind of cool. Just cash out of that. How much money do you think Mr. Beast has? Oh, gosh. Has? Or like, because he says a lot to you, right? I've heard he has very little money in his personal bank account

because he doesn't spend anything. Like he spends very little. Anything he spends is just for YouTube videos. And he doesn't make sense. He has no money in his personal bank account because he doesn't spend anything. Correct. But everything is spent for the videos. Like I'm separating personal from business.

If we're talking about just him. So he's had it all in the company. Pretty much everything in the company. And it truly seems like he doesn't spend money on anything that's not related to YouTube. If he cashed out of everything, though, sold his channel, sold all his business. I bet you he could probably get like a billion bucks.

A bill? Probably. I think he probably could. Wow. A bill. That's sick. Yeah. And he doesn't do anything outside of making the videos, right?

Oh, he's a chocolate. Feastables. Yeah, feastable. He does a ton of stuff. Oh, he just chocolate. Merch. Of course he's got. Beasburger.

Yeah. The apps. Are all those profitable? Yeah. I believe, well, not the main channel. I've heard the main channel is the lost leader that gets people in, does not make money. He makes money in the money.

the gaming and the Reacts videos. Okay. And he gives away a lot on the philanthropy channel. I think the philanthropy channel is net zero, right? Do you guys do like Spanish language channel on your YouTube? No, you don't do that yet?

Someone call me about that. You don't do it, do you? Yeah, no, no, I don't do it. They called me and they were like all set to go. And then they were like, okay, it's going to cost you $20,000. I'm like, oh, I'm doing this. I thought you were going to do it for free. You should be like $20,000 pesos?

Yeah, and split the revenue. But, yeah, I'm trying to, I'm always trying to think of ways to make money. Right. That's good. But I haven't thought of anything. Mr. Beast makes a decent amount from his different language channels. That's what I was going to say.

Yeah. But I think you really got it. Like for his content, it's so perfect for it. Like, ARAC would be another one because you could watch that in any language. Yeah. Get the joke and the humor and like the challenge. Yeah. I feel like with our content, it's very U.S. English speaking oriented

that like other cultures might not be able to pick up on. I love Instagram sketches that can play in any country. Yeah. Adam W. does a lot of cool sketches and is like, oh, this is funny no matter where you are. Right. That's why people say, Cobby Lane got so popular is because it doesn't have any of the language. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's interesting too because Mr. Beast combined.

Like he had all the different language channels. I heard he combined them all back into his main channel. And now you could dub videos. Like one video could appear in multiple languages, dub, depending on where it's shown. So you don't need multiple channels anymore. Which seems odd to me that they would be able to be able to. the YouTube algorithm would be able to separate, like this person is in Mexico watching this Mr. Beast video.

It's going to be dubbed automatically, and we're going to show them like a different thumbnail. Oh. I don't know how that works. So, like, the video goes out, and if I'm in Mexico, it's in Spanish already. Like, you know on Netflix. Oh, wow.

When you click a video, you could choose which language you want it to play in. Yeah. Same thing with a Mr. Beast video. Oh, so there's no need to have a different channel. No. So you don't make as much money. He would just, it would, instead of it being on different. channels, it would all go to as one channel. Oh, got it.

Yeah. Right, right, right. I don't know how the algorithm's able to, like, differentiate between that, though. Like, where someone is based, what language they're watching. Maybe they'd prefer to watch an English video versus like Portuguese or... I want to know your motivation behind starting the new podcast. What's the reason behind that? Well, I really like podcasting.

I think it's really fun. And, um, I, and views was done. So I was like, okay, I'll start my podcast. my own podcast. Just try it out. See if I like it. You like it? Yeah. I like it. I think it's good. I mean, it's, um, I like, I like doing views better. It was like, like, more fun and easier. But I like doing it myself. Um, it's, um, getting guests is tough. Yeah. That's the hardest part for us as well. Yeah. So we're, we're trying to, I'm trying to make it more like views now with just more friends and stuff. Because that seems to be what people like anyway. What was your hard part about getting guests? Because I would imagine you could reach out to anybody. And say, hey, do you want to come on? They'd be like, yeah. I mean, like, just scheduling and stuff. Like, we've had, like, really big guests cancel and, like, um, uh, and we've gotten some big ones.

Like, we got, like, Phineas to come on. We got Danny DeVito. We got Julie Bowen. We got Dane Cook did it. T.J. Miller. You know, it's, uh, it's fun. It's great to talk to, like, really interesting people. Like, it's really fun.

And then it's also fun just to have your friends on and, like, talk about what's going on. So, I mean, I'm trying to do, I'm trying to do, I'm trying to make a, it more like views now where it's like more just my friends because that seems to be what people really like on the channel it's it's interesting when you have like danny de vito on and then like your your episode like does it better than the danny de vito episode you know what i mean so it's like okay it's weird how sometimes it works that way yeah it's dandy davido i'd be interested in but the the youtube audience is probably more interested in you guys yeah danny de vito right even though it's Dan DeVito.

I mean, David said that to me too. When I started the podcast, I was like, I was flying to see Nikki Glazer in St. Louis to podcast with her because she lives there. And he was like, he's like, I don't know if your audience is going to, you know, like, want to hear Nikki Glazer, whatever. And I was like, no, I know, but I have to try to do something different, you know, then we went, Nikki was great. And then that episode did pretty good, but then you go and you like interview David's assistant,

and that does just as good, just as good, if not better. It actually does way better. Honestly, part of me is beginning to realize it's a very YouTube-centered audience. And if you don't focus to like what people want in that platform, they're going to watch it. Yeah, yeah. But then, you know, you also have to do what you like. Yeah. And the chance to talk to Danny DeVito is incredible. Oh, yeah. I would do that. And so that came in and it was like he needed to do it the next day. So we went down there and we did it. And it was awesome. I'm like, when you talk to people who are like that high level,

it's so freaking eye-opening and it's so inspiring, like, you know, to talk to Phineas and to understand like how he wrote bad guy and to know, like, I don't know, I just love all that stuff. I love talking to people. I love learning. And so, yeah, I find that stuff really interesting. What did you learn about Danny DeVito? Danny DeVito.

I love Matilda, by the way. That was one of my favorite movies as a kid. Do you see that? I learned that. I saw Matilda. Was he in it? Yeah, he was the father and Matilda. Oh, what?

That was him? Yes. Oh. I learned that this is a guy who was an actor in New York, just kind of like kicking around, got in one floor over the cuckoo's nest, which was like a really big movie in the 70s. And then he got taxi. And taxi was, you know, back then there was no cable shows. That was like, that was in 40 million homes. I mean, that was like Mr. Beast, you know, every week.

And he's just like, from there, it just became this massive, massive star. And like a comedy expert, you know, somebody that's just like, if you watch him on Sunny, like, just so hits the beats, like knows how to, um, knows how to like play like an edgy guy. You know, he has like an edge about him. And he's just like a master just to just to talk to him on that level. Does somebody knows about comedy like that? It's like the best way to spend your day. Yeah. You know, learn something from him.

I think for me, Jack Black would be that person. Well, it would be a great guess. Yeah, I think I've reached out to him on Instagram like three times. Yeah, he's a master. He's a frickin, have you ever watched Tenacious D? Yes. He's very talented. You've never seen him live?

No, I've never seen him on. It's like a religious experience. It's like so good. And his voice is really good. Yeah, he's incredibly talented. Yeah, I don't see him on too many podcasts. No, and I was so excited when he made his YouTube channel. Yeah, he makes some.

It was like, it's funny, and I loved the vlogs of just like with him and his kids. Yeah. Like, I loved that. And he just stopped posting. Yeah. He made a really funny skateboard video where he just goes around giving people skateboards. It's on his YouTube channel. Yeah.

And he also plays video games too, right? Chiblinski games. Yeah. Yeah, he's killing it. I would love to get him on. He doesn't need to come to a podcast. No. He's good.

Yeah. Yeah. Well, maybe one day for the iced coffee hour. Jack. I'm not going to give up hope yet. Put some music under this. Jack, come see Graham, do his podcast. Come on.

Please. Please. He DM'd you three times. A fourth time, that's going to be embarrassing for all of us. Thank you, Jason. Yeah. For the kids. I want to also talk about relationship advice with you.

Oh, yeah. I've got a whole new thing on relationships. Oh, cool. I would love to hear about it. I got it. I finally figured it out. You did? It took me 49 years.

I figured it out. What did you figure out? You got to. if you're in a relationship, you got to just be on top of it. In every minute, in every way, you got to like provide support, say yes to everything,

never say no, and build a fairy tale land. That's it. That's all it takes. Yeah, because when I was married before, I used to like argue with my ex-wife, I'd be like, I don't want to do that. And then you're dead.

right there you're done what if you don't want to do it though well then you don't you don't be with that person so you're just you're saying like find someone with similar values and interests you got to find somebody exactly like you this opposites attract shit you don't believe it it's bullshit opposites attract it's so stupid two opposite people together of course they're gonna fight i think the advantage those you get a dynamic of like you know one person of like moving forward you know you have someone that disagrees with you oh no it's the worst you want to disagree all the time. That's terrible. They need to provide a different perspective on things.

No, no, you want somebody going, you're right. This is great. I'm telling you. That's the secret. You really think that that's the secret? I just figured it out. I got, I met, I met my fiance in July. I got engaged in December. We're the same person. We agree on everything. She says, you want to do something? I say yes. That's it. There's no, there's never any. Oh, also, this is super key. Don't, don't, this is going to sound really corny and kind of like some, uh, anti, this is going to sound however it sounds, I don't care.

You got to watch your language. And I don't mean like swear words. You got to watch how you say things. It's super, super important. Even when like you talk about yourself, maybe you say like, oh, podcast with Graham wasn't good. Like, I, I wasn't funny or stuff like that. don't say that shit don't even say it out loud

just be positive just be like she goes how was the podcast it was great that's it just be super positive all the time or even like when you're like phrasing things to the woman like be careful how you say things like phrase it in the right way

like uh trying to think an example like I don't have a great example but like I don't want to go there like don't say that be like oh maybe like tomorrow would be a better. That is the secret.

You know what I'm thinking, babe? That's a great one. You know what I'm thinking, babe? And also, also, like, mirror them. Like, be like, say nice things. Be like, babe, I was thinking about what you said. That's killer.

That's killer right away. Anyone loves to hear that. Either sex. Hey, I was thinking about what you said the other day about this and X, Y, and Z. And maybe tomorrow is a better day to go. rug shopping. What do you think? Like that rather than like, I don't want to go fucking rug shopping today. Yeah. Like, and, and I'm not like saying this to be funny. I'm saying it because I actually

just learned it and I'm embarrassed that I learned it so late in life. But like, but like, or like you go out to a bar with a woman. Like guys don't know this shit. They're so stupid. You go out to a bar with your woman. You fucking take care of your woman. Babe, what do you want to drink? Do you do that? Do I do that? Do I really go out to bars with girls? Oh, you don't have a girlfriend or anything? No. Oh, do you? Yeah.

Okay. Do you do that? Fiancee. Do you do that? No. Sometimes. It depends. We never go to the bar.

We never go to the bar. Anyway, it's rare. It's rare. It's rare for you. And if we do, if we do go to the bar, it's always the sit-down sort of place where the con, like a server comm's, like, what would you like? But the point is, is that you've got to be constantly outputting. Same way you're outputting this podcast, you got to constantly be like, little things. Babe, I picked up.

peanut Eminem's for you today because I know that you love peanut em you know whatever it is like she's allergic to peanuts oh shit we just I'm kidding you know I just say that or just I mean I don't know that that's what I think is okay you have to keep it it feels like that's too agreeable though because where's the where's the friction I feel like there's got to be some sort of okay I disagree with that there doesn't have to be friction but you also just can't like you can't just like be a yes like you got to be real with them like if they want to go rug shopping and you're like the anti rug shopper you just got to say like like, you know what? I've had bad experiences in the past. I don't want to go rug shopping.

I'm sorry. Go with a friend. Or you say, how about this, babe? Tomorrow, you should go rock shopping. No. Because you got such a good eye. Well, then I feel like well, I guess for me, maybe this advice isn't great because this advice only works

for me, because I love to be with her no matter what. Even though I may not want to go rug shopping, I'm going to be with her and she'll make it fun. You know I mean. Yeah. Like, so that's how I look at things.

Maybe don't take this advice, but I'm telling you, you can just skip through a lot of problems if you're just agreeable. That's what I think. I don't like friction. Because, like, friction, the problem with friction is like, she says this and you say this, and now you're like maybe kind of joking. But then someone says something else, and then someone's feelings are hurt. And now you're not joking anymore.

And now you're fighting. And then you're like, what happened? Like, I thought we were joking. So I don't even do that. I don't even joke. I don't even make jokes. I just go like, because I do think she's that wonderful. I'm like, oh my God, I can't believe what a princess I have today.

I mean, are you kidding? I've never seen somebody so gorgeous because I do believe that. Yeah. And so maybe my advice doesn't work for everybody, but find somebody that you're that crazy about. How did you guys meet? A dating app. Okay. What dating app?

She's going to kill me for saying that. I don't think she likes that. What app was it? Herring, babe. She checks on all of them. I don't think that's a big deal to meet on a day. I don't think it's a big deal. No, I don't see no problem with it at all.

No, I know, but I mean, some people have like a stigma of it. Honestly, I used to be one of those guys. I'm not going to meet my girl on a dating app. But like, I've since abandoned that, I'm just like, yeah, it doesn't matter. Well, I mean, it's pretty good. I mean, you're sitting on your couch. You met the love of your life, you know. Of course, you have to go on 100 dates of horribleness.

What was the intro? On the app. Did you say the first message? Do you remember what that first message was? No, I don't know what I said. I don't have the app in order. This is a long time ago. This is like two years ago.

Okay. But then we weren't like together for the last two years. She moved. But then she came back into town and now we're together. I probably just said something really terrible. I'm terrible at texting. That was the other thing that I learned is that I'm just like really bad. So is Jack.

Jack is awful at texting. What's up? Yeah. How are you? But not only that, but Jack will go like a week or two and just stop responding and then hit them back up like three weeks later out of the blue. Like, hey, what are you up to? Ah, yeah. But it'll be that long silence of just like nothing happens.

And then like, you're busy. Things come up and you can't always be super attentive to it. I feel like it's just a normal. It's so hard. It's so hard to figure out if you're going to waste time on this person. Yeah. So your solution is just to be agreeable to do what they want. want to always be pleasing them to treat them like a goddess.

Yeah. Now, as long as they're treating you well. Yeah. So when I say that, I'm getting a ton in return. I'm getting, you know, really thoughtful stuff coming my way too. So it's just as simple as that. It's like, hey, babe, I made you a salad. And I'm just like, oh, my God.

I think there's something to be said about being more positive. Yes. I could definitely be a stick in the month sometimes. If I don't want to do something, I'm just like, you see it. You see it on my face. You feel it. You feel it. You feel it emanates into the room.

Yeah, everyone in the room just can tell. Yeah. Yeah, that's what I love about her is like she won't allow any kind of, in negativity. She just won't allow it. She has this thing called The Meaning Report, and she keeps it in her phone. And if I do do something, that's sort of mean, she will write me up. She'll write me up. She'll write me up in the Mini Report.

What does that mean? Well, like the other day we were driving, and I got, I got, I got, I got, I got, like really mad because this woman like cut me off and like my windows were up but i said the b-word you know i was like oh my god that's stupid bitch like that she was just like she pulled out her phone and she's like oh my gosh i hate to do this but i'm putting you on the meeting report so she wrote it out the time and everything and and then i begged her to take me off the meeting report and uh she would not and uh and that goes right to my mom it goes to your mom or she text your mom The meaning report will go to my mom.

Yeah, yeah. So it'll say, what is your mom? February 22nd, 222, Jason called someone the B word. Sounds like that could be taken out of context so much. Jason just called this lady the B word. The windows were rolled up. And she was acting, she was driving horribly. She was being a.

She was. So, yeah, sometimes I can be mean. But do you keep a meany report back? And text her dad. Well, I told her, hey, I was going to have an annoying report. when she annoys me, she said it wasn't allowed. I don't know. No, I'm like, I'm embellishing.

She only did that once. That was the other day. She made a media report, and she didn't send it to my mom. But she did threaten to send it if I, if I did it again. Yeah. I think that's really nice.

I'm a huge fan of just positive. You got to be positive. I think it's a good thing. Yeah. The thing about Graham is, you know, he can sometimes be a little bit of a negative person. One thing I realized,

I had this like, aha moment. We were driving yesterday. And Graham was, What did you say? You're like, oh, this traffic is horrendous. Yeah, horrible. Or something like that.

I'm like, oh, no, no. I said it was going to be a nightmare, or it was going to be impossible. Oh, yeah. To cross Fairfax at Russia or traffic. Yeah. Yeah. It's going to be a nightmare to cross Fairfax.

I made a turn that would inevitably make us cross Fairfax. And Graham was like, oh, it's going to be a night. It's going to be impossible to cross Fairfax at this time. It was right before the light of Melrose. Yeah. And I look at Graham, it's just like, impossible? Like, what do you think I am?

It's not impossible to cross Fairfax. Like, this word is just so aggressive. You know what I mean? Like, and I realize because my brother does the same thing, my mom always gets mad at him because he says, like, I went to go get a taco at the taco shack. I had to wait in the line. It was miserable. And my mom's like, you were miserable.

Really? Were you actually miserable? Yeah. And that's the thing Graham does. He just uses like the most aggressive words in certain. That's what I'm saying. Choose your words. Like, oh, this weather is so depressing.

It's not depressing. It's just rainy and you may not like it. I like this weather though. I like this weather too. You were just telling me you hated the rain. Literally he walks in here. He walks in here and the first thing he says... I'm carrying camera equipment.

The first thing he said it was like, I hate this rain. No, I said it was horrible. Oh, okay. I said it was horrible, but it was only because I'm carrying camera equipment from the car into that house. And it was getting wet. Everything is getting wet. I don't know. I was loving it.

Like, even my drive over here, I was super scary because the visibility was nearly... Like, I was driving from Ventura and that whole... 101 is just really sketchy. I was loving it. You know what I mean? Turn a negative situation. I could get better about my words. Or just don't use such gnarly words.

It's aggressive words. That's exactly what I mean. That exact example of like choosing your words. Just for yourself. Never mind him. Obviously it would be great for him if you don't use those words. But even for yourself. Yeah, no, I agree.

Like I had a video I posted yesterday and like it's not doing great, but it's just like, someone asked me how it's doing and goes, that's great. There is a difference between living in like a fairy tale. Rather than going like, it's doing fine,

but rather being like, oh, it's not too good. Could have been better. I would have said like, it was horrendous. Yeah. It was a disaster.

Grand post a video, it does poorly. He's like, oh, I feel horrible right now. My day is ruined right now. I'm just like sitting next to him. I'm like,

disappointed is immeasurable. And my day is, I was like, I was having a great day. Like, you know what I mean? Like, come on, let's bring the vibe up a little bit. Let's have a good time.

I'm prone to it too. Like, I'll be driving in traffic with my fiance and I'll be like, God, I hate this traffic. And she'll go, I like it. She goes, it's more time we get to spend together. Lovely. Like that, you know? And you're just like, that's good. Yeah, I mean, you kind of want to punch her in their face.

But, no, I'm just kidding. Pull the car over. But no, but that, it's really nice. And that's why all my friends love her so much because she's just like, That's good. She's just so positive and, and yeah. You know what the funny part was? He said that once we made that turn to pull off,

and like I said, eventually we were going to have to cross Fairfax. We made the turn to cross Fairfax, and there was a light. I got lucky. There was a light. I didn't even have to wait for the traffic. Like it was just the light hit red for them.

Really? We just cruised across. And I look at them with the smuggest little smile. I'm telling you, that stuff works. Manifesting stuff or trying. We were going to see, my mom flew out to go to the 80 for Brady premiere, which is like a Tom Brady movie.

And we really, really wanted her to meet Tom Brady. Like, that's her idol. My mom's like 80 years old. And we were in the car on the way over. And I was just said to everybody, I was just like, okay, I was like, let's just put positive vibes out. We're going to meet Tom Brady. And everybody in the car was like, we're going to meet Tom Brady.

We're going to meet Tom Brady. We just kept saying it and saying it and saying it. And then it happened. You met Tom Brady. How did that happen? We waited. we waited for two hours well yeah you're gonna be done

we waited for about 45 minutes but it was really fun to wait if we paid $5,000 a ticket I paid $25,000 but yeah I mean like you know it's really it's really important to like I you gotta be positive

you got to just remember that that's it's all you have you know that's awesome and in manifesting stuff I think like I think there is something to it like things like I did this thing with Harry Jousy like about a year ago and all the things we wrote down came true what'd you write down I wrote down I want my ideal I want to get in shape I wrote down I want to meet the love of my life I wrote down those two things happened I wrote down I want to meet Dave Chappelle I want to have dinner with Dave Chappelle and did you do that no but two days later I

met Jim Carrey that's oh wow really cool just randomly and I talked to him randomly we're standing on the red carpet for Sonic the Hedgehog too and uh so yeah this car pulls up and Jim Carrey gets out of the car and we're like oh shit that's Jim Carrey and then he just like like locks eyes with us and he just walks like right over to us and he's just like hi I'm Jim it was just like weird how cool was that so Oh, cool. I love Jim Carrey. And so I don't know.

I just believe it. I just believe that it's, even if it's like not true, it still puts you in the right. It puts you in the game. Yeah. You know? It puts you in the game for good things to happen. That is. Because people love, people, people love positive people.

Nobody wants to be around like negativity and nobody needs it. They got their own shit they're dealing with. Smile and move on. Right. Yeah. Well, I, um, I. Do we have anything else to talk about? I don't think so.

Is there anything else you wanted to mention? No. No. Cool. No. Well, thank you so much. All right. Jason,

really appreciate you. Thank you. Go watch my podcast. All good things. Go check out my YouTube channel. What else? It'll all be linked down below in the description. Okay.

Cool. All right. Thanks for having you guys. Thanks so much. I really appreciate it. Sweet. Bye. Until next time, guys.