The Iced Coffee Hour - HOW FAR we got on the Mr Beast FINGER ON THE APP challenge! | Ep. 7

Episode Date: July 7, 2020

Welcome back to the Iced Coffee 45 minutes with Graham and Jack-- Today we talk about the finger on the app challenge, options trading, and $200 lightbulbs. Enjoy! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The recording is now started, so now we... All right. All right, there we go. You want to intro it? Yeah, welcome back to the iced coffee hour with your host, Graham and Jack. Welcome back. What is this, the sixth? We're both hosting each other.

Exactly. So welcome to the iced coffee hour. This is what, the sixth episode? I think so. Or is it the seventh? Yeah, I don't know. The sixth. They all blend together after a while, that day.

But really quick, we should address it. We should talk about what we're reporting with. The elephant in the room. Yeah. All of this new gear that we have, thanks to Rode, they sent us all this stuff. They were really great about it because they didn't even ask for like a shoutout or anything. Like they said, typically we just ask for this, but like you can do whatever you want. Yeah.

So like this is honestly like a sincere thank you to Rode for doing this. It's incredible. We just like, this is our first video ever filming with this. So it'll be cool to look back at this years from now and like be like, oh, it all started here. So yeah. So, Rode, thank you so much. And for anyone who's thinking about like Mike, or audio equipment, so far, this has been the best.

So far. Like, this is the fancy stuff that, like, I'm, like, I'm blown away at it so far. Yeah, way better than all of the stuff we've tried otherwise. And also, for those of you who are curious, these are NT1 mics, and this is the Roadcaster pro, and this is just like a sound slash, like mixing board. I don't know. I'm not really that much of an audio guy, but it's got some cool features. So thanks to Road.

Yeah, definitely. Oh, and then I also have a question. If you guys prefer me having the stand and not having the stand, if the pop is really bad, just let me know. Because I prefer to have it held in my hand. But if you guys all think it's way better like that, just let me know. So what does the pop do? This is a pop filter. Right.

So the pop filter basically means that if you put it on, it should dampen like when you go pee, when you make a pee sound. When I go pee. No, not when you go pee, when you make a P sound, it like, it like, it like, yeah, it kind of sounds like a sonic boom kind of. Really? If you don't have one on. Yeah. Really? Like, not like a sonic boom, but like a more gentle.

Sonic boom. Okay. Like, like, not like a sonic boom. And we've made $6707. $63. You know what we should do an update every week? Yeah. We'll be like, here's how much we've made so far.

So is it? So $600.70. dollars this month and we've done four monetized episodes. Four monetized episodes, that's right. But also, like, we're still making money from the first two episodes.

That's true. Yeah. So, and who, for those of you guys are curious, the video with Jeremy did $284 video with Christine 162. And then our third biggest video was telling how much money

this podcast makes, which made $92. I love that. That's my favorite thing is you explain how much money you make and that makes money and then what you do is you explain how much money you make telling people how much money you make that's my favorite so i think we every episode can be how much money the podcast is made this week yeah i'm totally about it yeah they're just title the video that oh yeah and it just continue every week that's smart it's just we just totally reformat the podcast i just put like ep 7 ep 8 exactly like how much money it makes so uh we we can't hear this but i know that this sound

you guys are going to be able to hear that and that just made a money sound. Nice. So we can't hear it because we're not wearing headphones but you guys can hear it. That's cool. So yeah. I just want to know how this podcast has performed

has it performed to your expectations or anything. How do you think it's doing compared to like how you thought? Oh man. I mean it's tough because ideally for a channel like this I would want there to be daily content. It's tough for me to only post once a week.

I don't like it. I'll be honest. know with a podcast format like that you have to do that we're doing longer episodes so instead of you know 10 minutes four times a week it's just one 40 minute episode i still prefer the posting daily it's tough it's tough to see one big spike and then it just you know settles down and it goes up again so yeah i can throw up like a a screenshot of our analytics sheet like right now just so you guys can see every single sunday we just make like you know a decent amount more money than all the other days in the week it's not even about the money

It's just a spike of watch time, views, and engagement. And then Monday is usually okay. Tuesday is like, man, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday. It's just suffer. And I'm sitting there and be like, no, we need to post it. Get that back up again. So, you know, I don't know. But otherwise, it's been fun.

It's just, it's an interesting progression where I'm used to taking control and be like, no, we're just posting more videos now. And for those of you guys who are asking, because you guys have been talking about this a lot, I don't think that we can do more than what. episode per week at least like as it is right now it just takes up a lot of time to edit these videos like i mean i've spent like the jeremy video took like 20 hours after recording it there was just audio issues everything so it's it's really difficult to fit another episode in the week but right now

right now one episode a week yeah we're doing the one but yeah thank you guys again so much for all the support and everything um i would also like i'd like to do something to show my appreciation uh if there's like if you guys want to comment something or like any video suggestion or something that we could throw into the podcast. Yeah, like a leg reveal. Like, we'd be super happy to do that on the podcast. So if there's like a top comment saying that, you know, you want something different in the podcast or you want things to say the same, you know, we'd be willing to like,

I mean, I don't know about you. Like, I definitely would be willing to go out of my way to do. I think you would too. Yeah, of course. Do whatever we can or anything. You guys would like to see any special footage. Definitely. So let's catch up a little bit.

We got to meet Lough. Obviously, you guys saw on the last podcast episode, which is crazy. And yeah, I know you. You were a big fan. I'm a huge fan of his. And it's really funny because he totally is like, he's the same exact person as he is in his video. He's a YouTuber for those of you guys who missed that episode.

He's exactly the same in person as he is on YouTube. Yeah, yes. Which is just, I mean, it was great to like see that he's the same person. I love his laugh. Yeah, his laugh is great. He's just so laid back. So he makes you want to relax. Exactly.

You could be the most uptight person, but you hang out with him and you're just, you're calm. If anyone should create ASMR videos. it should definitely be Loth. Oh, wow, you're going to give him ideas. That could be his new, like, huge hit channel. Yeah, totally. I mean, like, it was funny.

During the podcast, I kept on saying, like, oh, are you sure? It's, like, scooted up close enough to him because he was kind of speaking, like, with the microphone a little far away from his face. I'd go check out the audio. His audio is, like, 10 times better than Grams than our audio. It's so crystal clear and, like, yeah.

But you were the big fan. I mean, you were the one who was like, he was fan-girling. Yeah, I was totally being, I was getting all giddy. Why, why Andrew, why Lowe? Because I just, I liked his style And I know for a fact All of his pranks were real

And his personality is so, it was so attractive to me Like not It was a good, it's a great personality I just think he's a cool guy And I showed him to my friends I showed him to my family So that also had some like, it's like childhood stuff Like imagine you meeting people that you used to watch

In your childhood I don't know if it would be a that like degree If I met Keenan Thompson I would look, he doesn't even have an Instagram Unfortunately because I wanted to reach out to the guy does not have an Instagram. Maybe he has a Twitter or something like that,

but like he, I would, I would go crazy if I met Kenan Thompson. Kell Mitchell too. I think Cal has a, has an Instagram. I would, I would love to, hold on.

Let's see. If Kel Mitchell is going to respond to your Instagram DM? Let's see, I would, let's see, Kel Mitchell. This is how we do things here, by the way. We just reach out to people on Instagram. Wow, he's got 1.1 million followers on, on Instagram.

What do I say? Let's DM. Say, hey man, big fan. You know, come on my podcast. So I said, hey man, just wanted to say I'm a huge fan and grew up watching. You might want to do something where you say, like, I run a YouTube channel with like 2 million plus subscribers just so it gives them more incentive to respond to you. Oh, yeah. Okay, let's, let's see.

I run a YouTube channel with 2.1. I'm going to just go 2.1 million subscribers. Yeah, so here's the message I sent. We should just do a whole episode, honestly, DMing celebrities. Yeah, that's super popular right now on YouTube. I would do that. Yeah. Let's do that.

Maybe that's the next podcast, guys. Suggest some people in the comments. Yeah. Actually, yeah, how about this? We'll reach out. Comment, yeah, comment people in the description. Comment people in the comments. Yeah.

They're not going to come through. They're not going to hear it. This is Road Mike, by the way, guys. They can't. Yeah, we can hear them. So anyway, so comment some celebrities in the comments. And whoever's the most liked, we're going to go through.

We'll reach out. Yeah. So here's what I say. I said, hey, man, I run a YouTube channel with 2.11 million subscribers. And I just want to say I'm a huge fan, group watching Keenan and Kel as a kid. Absolutely would love the opportunity to do a collab or have you on my podcast, all the best. You know what I should do? I wanted to send him a picture of that signed thing.

Oh, he would have loved that. But you know what? If I do that, I'm worried it's, like, Instagram only shows that, like, top little first thing. So if I send him a picture, it'll be like, has sent you an image. Let me try it Really quick Let me try Keenan Thompson

Kinnon Thompson has an Instagram Yeah And I didn't see it last time That's gonna make me You have probably a higher chance reaching out to this guy Keenan Todd How does Call him more

I thought Keenan was huge From my SNL Maybe he just created his Instagram You know what Let me just I'm gonna be lazy I'm just gonna copy and paste it Yeah

They won't know No Or will they just watch they talk every day and they're just like yo man get some root this you just that'd be cool they did Graham step and I'm like you know he's like oh they sent me the same

thing I'm not gonna lie like when I saw that autograph poster I had no idea who it was really yeah like I I just know I think Kenan was the guy in SNL right yeah yeah just changing the names yeah no I'm gonna put I even got your autograph way back in the day all the best

not sweet it's a little all right it's sent that would be amazing man you know what I should follow Keenan Thompson. Just as a show of good faith. Give him a follow. And you know what? I would have to do Kel Mitchell too

because you can't follow one and not the other. No, you can not. No, you cannot. Keenan and Kel. So yeah, meeting lawf was crazy. I also did something. I made my first ever option trade. Gosh, I told you not to do it.

So he told me not to do it. In our private mentorship group, link down below. In the description. I was talking about the guys in the Zoom call and one of them was telling me about selling puts. So I decided to do it,

and I sold a put on NIO, strike price $7. For those guys, you guys do no options. That's what I did. And, yeah, I made like $29 off a $700 investment. It was a small investment. Obviously, I'm not going to do a bunch of money in the beginning when I'm, you know, doing options trading.

But I made some money off of it. Congratulations. And I remember telling Graham and Graham was just like, oh, my God. But I mean, you would have made more money just buying two, two shares of Tesla. You would have made way more money. Yeah, but that would have required like a $2,000 investment. And also... But you invested $2,000.

No, I invested $700. Well, you could buy fractional shares. You would have made more money buying a fractional share in Robin Hood. Anyways. I made some money and Graham was just like, oh my God. And you win a couple of times a little bit. And then one time you lose and that's it. That's everything.

Remember that article we read? It was like that lady, who is she? She was like, you know, Robin Hood is like a fun gambling game. It's easy money. Yeah. Reminds me a- It's not easy money. Like when I had the contract, I was so scared upon the expiration date.

Like the entire week, I was thinking like, oh my God, what happens? Like, am I going to losing money? And am I going to making money? It's like... It's the same thing as going to Vegas and, you know, putting your money on black or red. Well, we'll see. That could be easy money too, but you sit there and maybe I lose. Maybe I'll lose my money.

Because if I made like, you know, I made like three, four percent in what? Five days? I want you to do it 20 times. And I want you to make money 15 out of those 20 times. Then I think that would be a good gauge of how well you're doing. All right. 75% of the time you make money. I'm going to continue trading options and gambling away all the money I'm getting from the podcast.

And yeah. And you guys will be able to see the updates as we go. Okay, good. You know what we should do a weekly recap? Like the beginning of every podcast episode. One, how much money has the podcast made and two, how much money have you made trading options? And how much money have I lost? Am I going to end up offsetting all the money we make from the podcast?

Just see them balancing out. Like, we made $500 this month from the podcast. And then I lost $400 trading options. Yeah. So I'm losing money doing this. you know. So yeah, I'll keep you guys updated and we'll let you guys know how much the podcast makes. We have totally cool being transparent. For those of you guys who are curious, we did not post on the Graham's Stefan show on Tuesday. Why, Graham? Gosh, that Pokeyman, Pokeyman, Pokeyman video, crazy.

Yeah. So that's, that I think is one of the, if not the first time on the, on the second channel, I purposely didn't post on a day. We had a video ready. Yeah. We had a video ready. Oh, yeah. But yeah, so what my theory with YouTube algorithms is that when you have a video that's doing so well and it's just getting pushed out to such a large audience, when you post a new video on YouTube, sometimes YouTube will prioritize that new video over the one that's doing really well. And I didn't want to jeopardize that video like cutting down in these because people really enjoyed it. A lot of people are subscribing from that video. And the next video we have after that, just there's no comparison. It's like we're going from my response to Pokemon to I keep my life. savings in cash, what do I do?

Not to downplay the video. You guys definitely should check it out. Yeah, yeah, definitely see the video. It's up right now, so you can see the video I'm talking about. But like, there's my response to PokeyMane and then there's, I keep my life savings in cash sitting in safe. What do I do? So, you know, I wanted to purposely wait and just let that video breathe for a little

bit and then we're going to resume posting. And for those of you guys who do not know, PokeyMane is a person who Twitch, or Twitch live streams. And she's basically the female face of Twitch. She reacted to the Jubilee video, too. I didn't watch that. Oh, yeah, yeah. I don't want it.

We could do my response to Pokeyman part two. Part two and just like have it. Yeah, and just run with it. Oh, man. I don't want to overplay it, but. But yeah, basically, we posted a video and it outperformed, like, basically everything we've done in a long time on the second channel. Yeah, on the second channel. So we just left it.

That was, I think, actually, the number one performing video I've ever had on the second channel in the first, like, week. Yeah. Ever. By probably double or triple. It's crazy. Which is insane. Yeah. Yeah, we got to start responding, I think, to more people. This come up with, like, just random people on YouTube.

Just popular people. My response to them. To H3-H3. It couldn't even, you know, it doesn't even have to be a video about you. Yeah, no, nothing. Just be him just talking. Yeah, and just, I'm responding to it. Yeah.

Yeah. Oh, well. As if he's talking to you. You act like he's talking to you, but you're just talking to yourself. I'm deeply offended about what's been going on about this. So this is my official response to, exactly. To, and then you insert whatever popular name here. Bangor videos.

Yeah. My response to Mr. Beast. all the time. It's like, He's never reached out to you ever. Oh, we got to talk about that Mr. Beast. Finger on the app. Finger on the app.

How far did you go, Graham? I got 15 minutes, maybe 20 minutes, and then I realized, like, I don't have a chance at winning this, and I'm better off just working. I'll tell you my thoughts afterwards. How long did you go? So I went two hours, and just really quickly, you basically just have your finger on an app

and see whoever does it longest gets, like, a bunch of money, and it was sponsored by Mr. Beast. So I went for two hours. Are they still? going now? Yes, I know. Or has someone won? Yeah, so I checked this morning.

And one of the guys got like 23 hours into it, and the app glitched. Oh, I saw that. Yeah. I saw that. That was the one on trending. And then there was another one. I felt so bad for the guy. I was watching his, you know what?

I'll be able to give him a shout out. So at the very least, he didn't win. But we'll be, it's called saucy together. Saucy together. Saucy together. And he's got 5,500 subscribers. here. So yeah, so

Saucy together, he went all night. And this morning, I was watching him around like 10 a.m. And he was still there. And he's got like, either his wife or his girlfriend

or someone with him, like really supporting him. And he's been up all night, obviously. He's like drained. And he's kept his finger on the app and he's got no lives left. So if his finger goes off the app,

he's out. And he's sitting there and you see him like holding the app. And then all of a sudden, the app just restarts out of nowhere. It just turns off. Yeah, he didn't do anything wrong.

And he was one of 102 people. So he was almost there. Yeah. This guy got 127,000 views on his stream. I think that's worth it. Yeah. For streaming. And for a brand new channel to get 5,000 subscribers overnight, it's huge.

What I should have done, ideally, now that I'm realizing it, it should have live streamed. I should have taken it really seriously, done it for charity, just, you know, set up the cameras, whatever, and just been there on my phone. I really should have done that and set up a charger. Because I started seeing people doing that, and they're getting, you know, they're getting thousands. Tons of views. And no one had, like a, I was surprised.

I thought, like, bigger channels would be doing this. I didn't see any big channels that were live streaming themselves doing this at all. I don't know why. You know, my thought was, I honestly felt like I didn't have a chance at winning this. There were going to be people who were way more motivated than I am to do this, who really needed the money.

You know, I would have donated. it to a charity or just something like that, but should have done it. Next challenge. I did two hours and I kind of realized like an hour in. I was like, I just,

I can't do this for, you know, because it would probably be like 48 hours. You know, two straight days and I just, I cannot do that right now. Even if it is like, you know,

$17,000, it's like, if I get there and I, what, I'm number two. Like, I get second place. It's like,

you know what I mean? You would have had to have live streamed. You would have had to monetize it. Like, I had to, I had to, I had to, I had stuff I had to do. Like, I had a video, you know, I got to edit. I have like a podcast I have to prepare for.

And I just, I couldn't do all of that at the same time as just holding my finger on the app. A lot of it's, a lot of it, I think is mindset. I think you really have to have, like, believed, like, I'm going to do this at all costs. I'm going to be up all night. I'm going to make it happen. Because that's what it seemed like the motivation of these people were on it. I think that I definitely had the confidence. Like, I think that if I put my, I truly think, if I put my mind to it.

I think I could have, I think I could win it. The thing is, it's like, I just, I analyzed it from a realistic perspective. You know what I mean? And just like, it's not worth it. What we should have done is honestly just live streamed on the iced coffee hour, set that up, and you just do it. And you just live streamed the entire time. Yeah.

Yeah. There was another person, I think it was fake. I don't know if it was real or not because these kids seem kind of sketchy. But they had their phone and they had like one of those Android phones with the stylus. Oh, yeah, yeah. And we're doing it with a stylus pen. And what they would do is to switch hands, they would, like, you know, put it on their chin and then, like, do this and then, like, keep it on there or, like, to switch hands around like that. Yeah, they could probably just do that instead of using their chin.

Right. Well, no, they were holding it like this. Oh, okay. So they were holding it like this, and then they went like that and they, like, grabbed it to keep it on. But they were trading. They were taking turns. So, like, you know, you would see that one guy holding it, and he'd pass it off to his friend who would just hold it on there. But they never really showed the screen.

So it was kind of skeptical if they were just doing it for views. Yeah, I think there's so many ways that you could have cheated that system. Like I was thinking, you know, you get like three lives. What if every life you just like passed it off to someone that took a sleep break, you know, for eight hours? It's just there's so many ways around it. Yeah. I hope that's the person that does win, though, did it like real, like, authentic. Yeah.

Authentically. Yeah. I don't know because some of those things are just so outside the box. Like, I would have never thought to use like one of the stylists. I didn't think to use one of those either. Yeah. Which that would make it a lot easier because your thumbs get sweaty after a while. Yeah.

My thumb was. It was just like sticking to the screen. It was mildly uncovered. Right. Poor me. Yeah, well, we'll see you wins on that. I think that would be really interesting. I hope he releases that video soon.

Upon the topic of Twitch, would you ever stream on Twitch or would you ever live stream? I'm not a big fan of live streaming, to be honest. I mean, I went live on Instagram of you once or twice, and I just didn't like it. I don't like the live aspect of it. It's scary. Yeah, I just don't like, I don't like being live.

I have a lot of respect for people that go live because you're like under a microscope. And if you get caught doing any, like, you know, like, who knows what, you know, something bad can happen. And then all of the sudden, you know, the turntables. The turntables. I don't know. I like, I like having to be able to, like, think out what I want to say and stuff like that. Even this. I mean, this is all unedited. But, I mean, to a certain degree, it's not like people are throwing questions at me left and right live. And I, you've got, you got to respond to it. Whatever you say is out. Seems stressful. Yeah, I'm just not a huge fan. Yeah.

Well, maybe one day. Maybe one day. Maybe one day. Also for streaming, I think the main source of revenue is donations. And I feel like just knowing your personality, it would be weird for you to accept tips from people. I think that you would feel weird about it. Oh, people like having their name come up on the screen, though. They don't do it for a person.

Would you feel weird saying like, oh, thank you for the $5 tip or whatever? No. You wouldn't? No. Because I know. Because you didn't really like the idea of a Patreon. Well, I guess it's no different than a Patreon, but I don't know. Like, a Patreon is like a monthly recurring something.

You know, it doesn't have to be. Being live. I don't know. I feel like if I'm live and someone wants to willingly, you know, donate, go ahead. I wouldn't have a problem with that. I think it's the same thing, but let's see. Let me just check out these sounds. All right.

One thing that's interesting, I don't know if we can talk about this, but let me know if we can so we can stop myself. Yeah, so Twitch is like the main live streaming platform. And then Mixer, you know, Mixer came out? So Mixer was Microsoft's version of Twitch. They came out with this new live streaming platform and they paid a couple of creators. Like, I don't know how much, but I think it's like tens of millions of dollars like Ninja, like the biggest Twitch live streamer.

They paid him to move from Twitch to Mixer. And they paid this other guy like ton of money probably as well to move. to move from Twitch to Mixer. And then they just shut down. Like they were running for a couple of months. I think I heard about something like this, right? Yeah, I heard about this with Ninja. They closed it.

Yeah, it was with Ninja. They closed down Mixer because it couldn't fight Twitch. Well, the thing is, it generally seems that if you have to pay a creator to go and join, it's probably not that good. Yeah. That's my initial thought is if it's a good platform, people are just going to go and use it. Like, I think TikTok, like maybe they pay people to go on there.

I can't imagine they would. it's just, it's so big that eventually people have to go on it. I just can't believe that, like, Microsoft lost to Twitch. You know what I mean? It's like they couldn't provide something that was... Do you think that there's going to be competition ever with YouTube? Or do you think YouTube's just way too big? Because I think they're way too big.

But it's, I don't think it's going to be competition for, like, in YouTube format. Like, like TikTok came around. Right. And that was so different. I think there's going to be different competition like that. Like TikTok, I just feel like they're all so different. I don't think anything can compete with YouTube on a YouTube level in terms of like long-form video content like this.

I don't think so. Facebook has tried. They're not doing it. You know, Instagram tried Instagram. What is it? Instagram TV or whatever it was. It was terrible. It was horrible.

That failed. But Instagram got really good at the stories. and Snapchat kind of developed their own little thing on the sides. Not as good. Not nearly as good. And then, you know, TikTok came out that it's now its own animal. So it's just a different form of entertainment, you think, can come. And that would be able to take YouTube's place, but nothing that does what YouTube does.

No. And even Twitch. I mean, Twitch is really good at streaming. Then you got YouTube is really good at long-form video content. And then, you know, Spotify, we could say it's good for, you know, audio. And maybe they're going to dominate the podcast space. I don't know. but you're going to have different sectors

where they're all going to dominate in their own space. It's interesting because I never told you this but you got an email from this one YouTube creator who created their own platform that's supposed to compete with YouTube and he got a few creators like it's like McJugger Nuggets or whatever

and you know Boogie 2988 those guys yeah like they are now posting on this whole different platform that's supposed to be like competing with YouTube because I think they aren't happy with YouTube's policies or something like that. I didn't respond to it, but he wanted you to

join the the new platform. I mean, I'll take a look at it, but it seems like, YouTube loyalty is a I like, I want to, I want to put my stake right now in YouTube loyalty. Yeah, that's why I didn't. Yeah, I mean, they've obviously, they've treated me so well

that at this point, it's like, I owe a lot to YouTube, so, and I'm going to stay loyal to that. Yeah. Interesting, though, but it's so much money to, uh, to run something like that. I can't imagine any like, you know, private creator without probably tens of millions of dollars, at minimum, maybe even $100 million,

couldn't compete with YouTube. That's my thought. I think it would take probably 10 of the biggest creators to move over. Like you would need, you know, like PewDiePieie, and you would need Mr. Beast

and like all of those guys. And you still don't even think, because YouTube also just has like a log of just like, you know, 15 years of videos or whatever, however long it's been around, you know, of just like golden content.

Yeah. It's just going to be interesting to see how they switch around what people want see and how they optimize for viewership and where they lead and what direction. That's what I think is more interesting is how they navigate the type of content that they want on the platform. Anyways, I found that interesting.

I'll show you the website afterwards. Also catching up on the week, I met Jason Oppenheim and we went to his house and his house is incredible. Yeah, it is. Like his house is so nice. And it had some of the craziest features. He had a $50,000 TV that rises out of it. rises out of the ground on hydraulics.

It's crazy. $50,000. It's crazy. That's like, that's like a fully loaded, like Tesla Model 3. Right? It's a Tesla Model 3 performance, basically. Yeah.

That's what it is. The highest end, yeah. Yeah. Anyways, he had a crazy TV. You guys should check out that video. And also, he had $200 light bulbs. I saw these light bulbs in his house, and I was like, these light bulbs look really nice.

I've never done that with a light bulb before. I'm not like a light bulb connocyer. Like I couldn't tell, you know, a $2. Put up a picture of the light bulb. Yeah, I'll put up a picture of the light bulb. And I looked at it. I was like, wow, this is super nice. I should like try to look these up,

maybe get a couple for myself. I look it up. It's called Buster and Punch or something like that. $200 for the bulb. That's it. Just the bulb. It's too fancy for me. I mean, what I got here is like a $7 light bulb.

And that for me, it was like, wow, $7 or a light bulb. This should be like $2. And this is like your centerpiece too. It's like a centerpiece light bulb. It's all, it's one of those like Edison bulbs It's like seven bucks, but like, oh No, $200. It was $210 actually per bulb.

They're beautiful bulbs, you'll see. Yeah. But, so it's, well, it's $2.30 with tax and everything. Yeah, exactly. Gosh, yeah. Just absolutely ridiculous. Imagine dropping it. And just try to be all like gentle with age.

Whoops. You're literally holding like two $100 bills in your hand when you're holding that. And you're burning them. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. You're literally burning. Burning money.

So. Gosh. Yeah, his house was absolutely incredible. And he's a really cool guy. He's super, super nice. Very nice. So it was always, it's always good to see like, like you see someone that you've seen online before, a famous person. And they genuinely are like, at least in my opinion, like a good person. Oh yeah. You know, it's very, most people are good people. That's,

it's a nice thing to see. He also in his house had a real tree that he then turned into a fake tree. I remember he got the real tree in there. And we were all telling him that it's not going to get enough light and like it's not going to do well inside. Like, he can't grow an olive tree inside with the skylight. And then yeah, sure enough, it did, it didn't do so well. But I didn't know he used that base of the tree and then had a silk guy. Yeah.

Come in and like plant leaves around. He said like the best silk guy in California. I didn't know that was the thing. Imagine that's your claim to family. Like I am the best guy for silk guy. Like oh man, I know a silk guy. That sounds like like the good old days. Like the 1700s when you have like a family.

Like the best shoemaker. Exactly. And it just gets like handed down. I make the best leather wallets in town. It seemed like our economy was past like that era. Yeah. That's cool. I mean, someone has the claim to family.

The best corn meal on this village. Exactly. Yeah. So we had the best silk maker come and then make leaves for this tree that's not doing so well anymore. Yeah. But, yeah. You notice how I didn't say that word either. Yeah, I noticed.

Yeah. So, yeah, it was pretty crazy. I mean, the tree, it looked real. Yeah. It looked totally real. So if you guys are looking, if you have a tree that's not doing so well, look for the best silk maker in California. We say, or your state. Yeah, exactly.

Anyways, check out that video. It's pretty awesome. It's interesting. He had a bath outside of his house, like a bathtub, literally, like not inside of his house. So this is a surprise for Graham, but on the last podcast with Lough, we talked about Rob's 10K friends and how you and him had both coincidentally went on this guy's, like, social media page where he tries to meet three people every single day until he meets 10,000 people. And he meets each person for like an hour.

30 minutes, I believe. Was it 30 minutes? Or an hour. I don't know, actually. Maybe it is an hour. Anyways, he's been doing that for what? A couple years now, three years? Yeah.

I reached out to him. He did. Yeah, and I'm going to meet him. So now I have, in my little schedule, I think this coming Tuesday, I'm going to meet Rob's 10K friends. Cool. Yeah. Is this during business hours or this is after? I said 8 a.m.

So it's like a little on the earlier side. That's good. Getting an early start. I would purposely, by the way, what I like doing is you set things early in the morning. So it forces you, you got to be up. You got to, you know. That's exactly. He said he had 8 a.m., 10 a.m. and then 12.

That's what he did is an agent. I would purposely schedule showings for like 8 a.m. sometimes just because I know I would have to be up at 6. Going to have to be in the shower, I got to eat, leave the house by 7.30 to be at the showing at time. So sometimes you just force yourself to make those meetings. Mm-hmm. Yeah. When you first decided to be a real estate agent, like from then until when do you think that you like hadn't made it? When did you feel like you had made it as a real estate agent? I sold my first house. So that would have been about a year.

about a year into it. When I sold my first house, that was my made it point. Right, so you just shadowed an agent for a while and then you sold your first house. How much was the first house that you sold? I believe it was...

This isn't like a lease you're talking about? No, this is a sale. No, before that I was doing a little leases making like a few hundred bucks here and there. Now, this, it was three point... I think it was 3.65 million or 3.5.

That was the first house you sold. That was the first house you sold. Three point six. How did you get into that market so quickly? I was holding open houses. I just, I shattered another agent, uh, who was,

who was really kind of like teaching me the business. I just went to Beverly Hills. Like, you know, I never lived in Beverly Hills. My, I was something in Glendale at the time. And,

uh, yeah, I just, drive to Beverly Hills just because I knew I wanted to work there. I happened to meet an agent, uh, who was a Beverly Hills agent. And that's where I would hold open houses.

Every single Sunday, I would hold an open house in Beverly Hills. And, uh, drive an hour, uh, ever there, hour back from Glendale.

And was just, yeah. Did you know you wanted to be a real estate agent? Like, because I know you tried to actually go to college. Yeah, I tried to. It didn't pan out. No, I saw a commercial for the show, a million-dollar listing. And it looked really interesting.

So I started looking into real estate. And I'm like, wow, like, this is really cool. And so, yeah, so from that commercial, for a million-dollar listing season two, I decided that I wanted to try real estate. Hmm. Yeah. Well, thank you, a million-dollar listing. Yeah, there's a million-dollar listing.

And yeah, I think it was Chad Rogers was the one because we had like a similar haircut back in the day. And I was like, if Chad Rogers could do it, I could do it. Was there any like celebrities that you looked up to when you were a kid because you just like, like, for that reason? Like you totally thought that they were just like the, this like icon for like their looks. Yeah, so the three original agents for a million dollar listings. So Chad Rogers, Madison Hildebrand and Josh Flagg. Did you like the show? I love the show.

Yeah. But that was, I was watching the show before I realized like a lot of that is scripted. That's not actually how it works. It's not a true representation of what it's like to be a real estate agent, but you sit there and watch it and it's just glamorized to the extreme of like pulling up in your Mercedes and going on these listing appointments all the time and making hundreds of thousands of dollars. Not like that at all, but it got me excited enough to want to do it.

So those three agents, and then really anyone from Shark Tank. I mean, those are the people who I would really... And when did you make that decision that you wanted to do? Immediately after a other commercial. How old were you? I was just before turning, it was 18. I think it was just as like, so it was the perfect timing.

Yeah, just as high school was kind of finishing up, but I was trying to figure out like, you know, what I wanted to do. I think I'm pretty sure at the time I was working, doing some like data entry crap. Because my high school was weird. So we finished classes. I think it was like January, February is when we finished our classes,

but we didn't officially graduate until June. So we had those, few months where we didn't have class and we didn't yet graduate. So that's when I got this data entry job. And so I was doing that. I hated it. Could not stand it. And then that commercial came on. I'm going to do that. And when you started being a real estate agent, was your salary or however much, sorry, not a salary, how much you were making? Was it basically like a gradual increase or was there a certain time where all of the sudden, like I'm guessing that would be, you know, when you sold that $3 million house.

It was just like, do you just step up? And then all of a sudden, that was just like your new average? Kind of. Yeah. It was really, I mean, it was very much gradual. I don't know. The first nine or ten months of being an agent, I maybe made like $30,000. Maybe, maybe 20 to 30, somewhere around there is how much I made.

And that was working, that was straight up like seven days a week, probably eight to 12 hours a day. Yeah, there was not, I don't think there's one day where I didn't work. in that very big maybe it took an occasional Saturday off why did you have that drive to to work like that loved it I had so much fun you loved it I loved it yeah I would get there at like you know eight or nine a m and I would stay there until about nine and ten yeah why did you why did you love it was so much fun it was fun it was fun I just loved it I just I that was all I wanted to I wanted to go to sleep just so I could wake up the next morning that's interesting that's so cool because I've always been told like you know you pursue something that you're passionate

about and the money will follow if you you know if you pursue the money yeah then it's just going to be much more difficult for you. Yeah. No, in the beginning, too, I would just, I wasn't getting paid at all. I think the first, like, month or two, I just would go and chat, like, just watch. His name was Vigeli. I just watched what he did. And that was it. And, you know, I would get there before he would even get in the office.

And I would sit there just, like, looking at properties online, he would get in. And I would just, whatever he needed me to do. If it was responding to emails, I would do it, calling clients. I would do it if you wanted me to go and, like, turn on lights at a house. I would do anything he wanted me to do, I would do it. And then that's when I started, like, shortly after trying to figure out, like, oh, I can take pictures of these properties. I can put them up on Craigslist.

Did you ever want to open up your own brokerage? At first I did. I think early 20, when I was like 21, 22, I really wanted to open up my own brokerage. I think, I don't know what I wanted to call it, but I think I had a name picked out and everything. I can't remember. But yeah, I wanted to open up my own brokerage. That was, I think, the goal back then. Oh, I did want to throw this in.

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We'll organize that at some point. But I would like to handmake a silver ring for someone and give it to someone, some viewer. Cool. What do you think is the difference between cheap and frugal? Oh, geez. Well, I think frugal would be prioritizing, I guess, what's most important and really just trying to maximize the value of a dollar. And I think just being cheap is...

Gosh, what is being cheap? I mean, the first thing I think of being cheap is, you know, doing something that's of less quality that's going to cost more in the long run, I guess. So a good example of that, let's just say one of my H&M $3 shirts. I think it could be argued that those shirts have a, you know, have a lower, shorter lifespan than getting a $10 shirt that's going to be much better quality, it's going to last way longer.

So in the time that you could just wear one $10 shirt for three years, the $3 shirt might be all warped and stuff like that after like six months of washing it. So it's going to cost you more than long. So I think in general, I think cheap can cost more in the long run, whereas being frugal is about maximizing the value of your money. That reminds me of this conversation that I was having with the group, which was on like how Dave Ramsey says that you should not have any sort of debt, right? And I think that it's interesting because you and I view debt as it's a good thing, if it's like good

debt, you know what I mean? And I think it's really interesting because I feel like someone like him, he probably, do you think he really truly believes that? Or do you think he spreads the word that debt is bad because for the general public, for the general average person, I think debt probably is bad because a lot of people are bankrupt by dumb decisions they make on a credit card or taking out bad debt? That's a good one. I mean, he speaks to the general population where debt is bad.

So I think he knows that debt can be utilized and leveraged. And, you know, it can be a smart resource to go that route. But I think he also acknowledges, and he's dealt with way more people than I ever have, that for most people, they can't handle it responsibly. So the reason why he says that debt is bad is because it's probably more just like overall a better theme to live by for the average person. Yeah, I think if I were talking to nine out of ten people, it's better just to give the blanket statement.

Debt is bad. Instead of credit card debt. I like to speak to that one in ten who... Whereas objectively, like objectively, we think that debt can be good. Right. And you like to speak because you want, you objectively view... I would speak on what I believe in, and I believe debt can be good in certain situations

where you're smart about it. I think it's a good thing. I think most people, though, won't understand the nuances of that, and it's really hard to follow for a lot of people. But if you're good at it, you could definitely use it to your advantage. It's also very comparable to how everyone says

you should buy and hold, and hold basically forever, because that's what a lot of people advise people to do, because you see people that may have, like, a lot of money in a retirement account or something like that, and then all of a sudden it'll crash or they have, like, a lot of money in their stocks,

and all of a sudden it crashed and they get so scared that it's going to go even, you know, even smaller, and all of a sudden they'll have, like, you know, no money. and they sell when it crashes, you know, and then they can lose a lot of money, but the reason people say buy and hold is because you got to hold through all of those. Whereas the real thing is like,

you shouldn't always buy and hold. You know what I mean? Like you have to, you have to, you have to analyze your holdings like every, you know what I mean, like all the time and then think like, is this really? Some of it's so random. It would be impossible.

I think it would really be impossible to correct. time the market consistently. I mean, you have hedge fund managers who do this for a living. Right. The smartest people in the world. Can sell puts on NIO. Even the hedge fund managers can't do it.

My only, the thing that I've learned is that moment when you feel like you need to sell, that moment is when you should not sell and buy. Every single time I've looked at like anything that I'm buying, I'm like, oh, man, maybe should just sell this off where you feel that like hit in your stomach just like, ah, that's the point where you should always be like, no, I need to buy more. unless you're doing puts on Robin Hood. Exactly. Don't do that.

But in most long-term investing cases, that's the time where you should continue buying in. Do you think it's the same thing where it's like you tell the general public to buy and hold? Whereas the real thing is it's like monitor them and like the real, or do you think it's overall people are probably truly better just buying and holding? I think everyone's better off buying and holding. I mean, I bought some like some travel stocks and restaurant stocks and stuff like that.

I wouldn't be doing that if I didn't have the money to lose on stuff like that, though. So I would not tell most people to do that unless they have money that they could lose. Do you want to say the thing where you put that money in that one stock and then made like $40 or $80? Yeah, I'll say that. So one of them that, like, it's a silly example, but wire card, that bankrupt company, for fun, I put two grand in wire card because I noticed it was hovering just within, you know, set range. And I thinking, well, you know, if I get time, it was literally bouncing, like you had these two, levels, it would just balance between them.

So I figured, well, I may as well just try to buy towards the low and then set, you know, a limit. And so it automatically sells when I reached a certain point. I made like 80 bucks on that. But I had to invest 2000. Like, I was prepared to lose the- Made $80 off $2,000. Yeah, but I was prepared to lose that. And that was within a few hours, but I was prepared to lose it.

Like, I went in thinking, like, this is a gamble, but I was okay making that gamble. I would not be betting, like, rent money or mortgage money or like money. I needed it. Right. I mean, that's strictly just like... And the company was going bankrupt, right? The next day it went down to like, you know, I think two days later it was like 90 something cents.

And what did you buy it at? I bought it at $9 and 60 something and I sold it at $9 and 90 something. It was funny because you said like with taxes and everything considered it was like $40 that you made off of a $2,000 like investment. We went and got burritos. Yeah, paid for burritos. That's what was the goal. It was a fun little thing for me to do.

Yeah. Don't do this. Don't do it. I mean, it could have easily because it after I bought it, I think it went down. even further and I was down like a hundred and something bucks and I was like oh well do you know it happens you know I had it triggered it like nine it was going to automatically sell so

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