The Iced Coffee Hour - How I Secretly Lived Rent Free In An Airport | Confronting Fidias

Episode Date: July 22, 2021

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Is it actually zero? Actually zero dollars. Maybe mine is something. No, you have some money. Yeah, but no, I don't. You spend it all. Yeah. Staying in airports.

Just making money now, like the past two months, I spent it all. I'm not good with my money. How much you make in these last few months? I made $5,000, I think, $4,500 in the last month. You spent it all? Every single pain. I asked my brother to send me money yesterday for the rent. Wow.

Really? Yeah. How much is rent? $750. Where? California. On your old home. You should see his place.

He's got like a room in this really unique area. It's a hole. Where? In bad area in Los Angeles. Where? But it's cheap. I'm not 140. I'll have to say this.

We'll bleep it out. I'll tell you if it's a bad area. You're not, 48th Street and what? Got it. Okay, so that's not the best area. It's not bad. Yeah. It's not bad.

I never had a problem. Yeah. The crazy thing is people would come to my old area and it was like mid-city Los Angeles and people, oh, wow, this is not the safe as here. I'm like, no, it's, what are you talking about? Like, if you're in the rich areas, those are the places that end up getting like burglarized and stuff like it. No one comes to mid-city Los Angeles be like, ooh, I'm going to go and, like, rob a house today

because there's valuables in there. Nobody ever thinks that. So, like, I felt so safe in that area. you know about me. I've seen your videos. Actually. Actually. How many?

Which ones? I watched almost all of them today. Really? Today? Yeah. Seriously. How stupid you think? We'll get to that.

So how I know you, how I know you is when Jack was picking up all my furniture in mid-city, you were in the video. And I thought you were a friend of Jack's. And I was like, who is this guy? It's like, he comes in with so much energy. and it's wild but I thought it was just like a high school friend he's like no that's Phiddeus

and he wants to shake he wanted to meet YouTubers with 100,000 subscribers I'm like okay that's cool and then I saw your video with Arak and then Jack said you were coming on the podcast so I've just binged all of your content I gotta say it's crazy like you've taken

I'm so so grateful so happy and excited is my I was watching from a long time. I don't watch every single video, but I love you guys and I'm so excited. I'm from a country, 7,000 miles away from here in Europe.

Like, it's very small country. I was watching you guys online. Now I'm sitting here in this couch. That's cool. It's so freaking amazing. I'm so grateful. Yeah, this is neat to have you on here. You are crazy, though.

I will say that. Doing the stuff, you've taken what most people would consider to be like a fun little challenge and then taking it to the extreme like Ryan Ryan, Ryan Trahan's content, you know, living like turning a living on a penny or whatever, you would take that and be like living in a penny, uh, with with like sub freezing temperatures for two months and you quit like, uh, so your first video that I why, I actually really enjoyed it. You spent an entire week at an airport. Yeah. Undetected. Yep. I thought that was actually

a really cool idea. Yeah. I liked it. It's, it's extremely expensive to live in an airport, but it's zero rent. So it's not bad. How long do you think you could have lived in the airport? Months. It's... It's... It's the airport in the United States months. Like, nobody will notice. Like, so many people sleep in the night. There is so difficult for them to notice. I, I was kind of worried, but like three days in, I was like, they're never going to find out. I feel like we got to do you a little bit of justice when we bring you on. on here though okay because phidias is nuts yeah i know and not only in his content for those that don't know phidias is a YouTuber you have like 110 000 subscribers soon to be at a million so you'll be at 10

million very soon and that you do the craziest videos and not only that but like i was really surprised to know that like even when the cameras are off if we're going somewhere literally phidias and i went to like this like really like vegan restaurant like low-key restaurant and phidias we walk in and video she goes, hey, like as soon as we walk in. It's like dead quiet. Graham will hate you. No, who said, was it Alex? No, I said that.

Yeah, I don't know why. Like, I like your videos. I don't think we'd hate each. But he's like that in person. Yeah, but he said you were very uncomfortable being with me. What? Yeah, a hundred percent. No, he doesn't know me.

Cheese. Oh, my. He walked in. I am sure that you will be uncomfortable. I don't think you pissed. No, yeah, no, he literally walked. I was like, I wouldn't say I was uncomfortable, but I was like, oh my gosh. It was like a lot.

And we walked in and he just yelled. And then it just was like dead quiet. And then he just walked to the register with me. And dude, you spent so long at that register with the girl too. And he was like, why did you yell? Why?

When you walk into a place, why do you need to make your presence known? I don't know. I think it's kind of fun for me. But I don't, I don't do it with bad intention. I do it with people like Tuesday and maybe laugh or think that who is stupid,

who is this stupid guy? Did you walk by a girl who's eating alone, like a 40, a woman and you meowed at her. Like I was like sitting down and I look across like I look at you. I tell you guys I'm stupid. I look at a few tables away and I see Fiddeus walking towards me. She goes meow as he walks by a woman.

It was so funny. I loved it. Why? Why did you do that? I always did that and I really enjoy people thinking that I'm stupid. I love it. You want people to think you're stupid. But you're clearly not doing it because you're stupid.

You're just like people thinking that you're stupid. No, but it's not that. I enjoy the, I don't know, I really enjoy people getting uncomfortable, me getting, shouting. I don't know. I don't have body tensions doing that. I will say that. But I have like, I'm like fun, playful intentions. Do you, do you find it amusing to see, like, their reactions?

Like you're so, and you're just like, it's so, especially here in United States, the reaction is like, like, like, I'm an alien. Here's the thing. I feel like if you, if you did that. Los Angeles, people would not bat an eye. I've seen people like running naked throughout the streets like that are on some sort of, you know, chemical of some sort. And just people are walking by. Like they're like, they've seen that before. It's no big deal. Maybe Las Vegas, you get more of a reaction. You're not in Los Angeles. People seem to like it though. That's the interesting part. It's like I can think of people doing crazy things, but I never like imagine that

those who witness it would enjoy it. But we literally, we went to like a fast food restaurant and there was this kid Vardon Antonian. He's a Jonah. Jonah's little brother. You know, Jonah from David Doberk's vlogs. Yeah. Yeah. He saw him and you run over to him and just jump on him. Like, he literally jumped and put his, wrapped his legs around him.

Did you know him? No. No. And they both fell on the ground. And then he just sits and talks with us for like the next hour and a half. And he totally liked Phidias. I wouldn't do that. Like, what if he put in yourself?

It worked. Like, he charmed him. Vardon liked it. That's why I said to everyone that I'm stupid. So that's your get out of jail free cards. I'm kind of stupid. So you get away so people don't question it. Let's get to the Jews.

You are a finance podcast, guys, right? Yeah. I'm thinking to offer to, you know, Mr. Beast? Yes. You heard of him? Yes. Nice. You heard of him?

Yeah, yeah, I think so. I'm thinking to ask this guy to invest in my channel. And I think there is a big opportunity. in this like YouTube channels he started a company like for the intention to invest in channels and what why they why I want to do this is like I want to I ask myself a question Elon Musk said to ask yourself a question how I can make one year plan in two months how I can achieve it and when I answer this question for myself is I want the best in the world to guide me like I want access to the best information in the world and I'm thinking to offer here.

him to invest in my channel. What is your thoughts on that? I think you're too edgy for Mr. Beast. That's what I think. I think you take these challenges. Like, the one challenge that I watched were, I knew you were, you were crazy. I didn't think you were so crazy to do the marathon

and ice. And your feet, you were in the hospital. And you were in a wheelchair for what, two weeks? That is dedication to be able to put up with like that. Like, I would stop after a few lapsed. I just be like, okay, guys, like, if you start halfway through, I would have been impressed. I'd be like, wow, that's crazy. But you actually make sure that they understand that I ran a half marathon barefoot in the snow.

Yeah, yeah. You got frostbite. Severe frostbite. You should have seen photos. That he couldn't include them on the YouTube video because they were so gruesome. It was so bad. I don't have my phone. Okay.

Yeah, actually, it would be funny to get your reaction. All right. Now, obviously, we can't include these photos in the podcast because they're very gruesome. Because I was naked taking this picture. Yeah, I'm kidding. Here's the thing. I get grossed out by stuff really easily. Like, I see anything like this, I can't look at it.

So you're going to get my honest reaction. Oh! Oh! Oh, no. No, no, no, no, no, no. Holy! Oh, my God! That was a good reaction, guys. Good show. I don't remember.

I do not remember looking that bad. Alex, you want to come see? Guys, is it really that bad? Yes. You want to come see? Yeah, I'll come check it out. I'll be honest. If you get weirded out by that stuff, don't look at it.

No, I don't. I don't. That's disgusting, but I'm not, I'm not, oh. It's a video, yeah. Dude, it looks like a horror movie. It's me in the car. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

I don't want to see it. Here's the thing. So, so in terms, like, there's got to be, I feel like there's got to be some block in the brain where you're able to push past, like, physically injuring yourself. Because you got to think, like, your mind is going to prevent you from doing that to your feet. Like, that's not good for survival. So there's something that's like, you know you are a survival. You are a doctor or survival expert.

Yeah. It's like, because your body wants to stop. But so, like, your mind is pushing past, like, the thing. physical limits. And one thing I want to mention that I don't mention too often in videos is that we do actually have a mentorship group down below in the description where you could meet with me every other week. And you can also talk to Jack every other week as well. We do Zoom calls. We talk for about an hour, an hour and a half. You could ask me whatever questions you want. It's a really small group, so we have a lot of one-on-one time. So if that's something you're

interested in joining, the link is down below in the description. I don't know. I think as far as Mr. Beast being an event, I can't I personally can't say I don't want to speak for him. But let me ask you, I mean why do you need the investment? How much money do you need? So, and where would it be used for?

This is the interesting part that I was asking Jack for advice. So I'm not 100% sure that I want to do it. It seems like a good idea in my brain because, but it has to be a deal that he is motivated to do because and Jack said like just offered him

10% of your absence for a lifetime for free and he will be like not his and help you. But I want to make like a situation that he's actually have skinning the game and he actually cares to help me and like guide me and like give me access to, give me access to different people and all this stuff. So I was thinking like maybe 10% is not about the money. Money I will probably start making a lot in the few months next. So it's like I was thinking for 150,000 investments. for like 10% of the whole business in the future.

It's expensive. I think it's worth it. Because I'm that confident in Fidius' success. Here's the thing. So you're valuing your channel right now at $1.5 million. You're taking a huge risk that you will continue, that you will perform, that this is something you could see yourself. It could take a long time to make that money back.

So with something like YouTube, you would want to look to probably make your money back within about a year. So that's just from what I've seen. Now, I've seen other big channels that have sold their AdSense rights, big channels, like over 10 million subscribers. When they need an investment, they will sell the AdSense on previous videos for an X amount, a big lump sum. Usually that pays for itself within about two and a half years. But that's with an established channel that has a history of getting consistent.

consistent income. So they see this like, okay, we're going to give you an investment. We know we're going to make our money back in this. With you, it's more of a risk. So I would say you don't need personally, unless you're like, I need $10,000 to go and do this stunt and this is how we're going to, then it might start making sense, but I think you'll be a lot hungrier to do it a lot better without any investment. I think you're going to be that much more disciplined and dedicated. I don't think you need it. Jack, what do you think? I agree. I don't think that. I agree. I don't think you necessarily need the guidance because you're doing incredibly well already on your own. But I do think that I don't think that there's anything wrong with having, you know,

Mr. Beast giving his insight on how you can become more successful as a YouTuber. That's the best possible advice you can get from anyone. And at least that is a connection with the top dog on YouTube. And honestly, 10% of your YouTube channel in the bigger picture, I don't think that that's going to mean a lot to you, you know, a few years down the road. Here's the thing. The YouTube channel's not where it's at. It's your whole brand.

It's everything else you bring in. So it would have to be like in you, whatever you make, it's 10% of that. I just, I think you would be better off on your own. I think probably you could look at what Mr. Beast is doing, listen to his interviews, and it's probably 90%, he's so upfront about what works. I agree in a way, but the thing that I'm, I think is like so difficult. Like there is no YouTube university, there's no other information. Like we are just fine, even I work with the Iraq.

it's trial and error so you want to speed the learning this is how and like he built a team he's making scaling his scaling his business so I think even if he's like 10% better

if it will make me 10% better like the 10% better on YouTube it equals with so much compounding the 10% like will make me so much better if it's just 10% which I will give

If he makes me 10% better and faster, that will lead, like, this is what they say in investment, that will lead. I will be in so much leverage position from the other guys. So this is how I think about this. I don't think Mr. Beast is you guy. I think Nelka is. Yeah. I think, listen, because here's the thing, if you look at Mr. Beast, Mr. Beast, is built a really family-friendly channel where you could sit down your three-year-old

in front of a Mr. Beast video and enjoy it. On the other hand, I think you take things to extremes. More in line of Steve will do it. I disagree. Because first of all, Steve will do it. There's no way he can have a channel that has the success that Mr. Beast has

just because of the nature of his videos. And Mr. Beast also, in the beginning, he didn't necessarily have a clean image when he was first starting out. But as soon as he started to get to the point where he was getting 10 million plus views of video, then he cleaned out his image which is totally fine,

but I think that that's kind of in alignment with what Fidius is doing. In YouTube, YouTube is promoting the videos that are the safest to promote and even if you are harming yourself and other people enjoying it,

is YouTube going to promote that? Not as much as if something that was probably cleaned up a little bit more. Because for them it's about the advertiser. I don't think Fidias is a problem. You don't have a problem cleaning up if that means

that you're going to be just like Mr. Beast, right? Yeah, I don't have a problem, but I don't think that, first of all, I want to say that one of the biggest, like, breakthroughs that I have in life is I take what Elon Musk say. Take the thing about the physicist way of thinking. Like, you boil things down and you find the fundamental truths. And, like, that helps so much with the YouTube thing because, like, you say your advice. Mr. Bees saying his advice.

Everyone is saying his advice. There is a ton of videos outside that they give. And everyone is saying different things. So I tried to think of myself about this thing. So if you boil things down, I believe, like what Elon Musk did with the Tesla batteries, he boiled him down and he said, okay, we need these things to make batteries about Tesla. We can bring them from other countries, we can manufacture them in our thing, and we can lower the cost.

And he didn't take what other companies are doing with batteries. So I've tried to think about that about YouTube. So what I think about YouTube is watch time. If you boil things down, it's only about how much you can get possibly to your, how much you can possibly all people spend on your time on your YouTube channel. So it's watch time. So how you achieve that is the question. So I don't think what you are saying about clean thing is the way.

It's like disrupt with what is my fundamental thing about YouTube. So I wanted to brought that up because it's a good idea. I want to show how I think about YouTube. Watch time. Watch time. So I don't think it's what you said is about me cleaning my content, the best thing because it might be for ad revenue, but I'm not 100% if it's going to be like the thing that will bring me more views

and cleaning my content. I think it would. I always err on the side of caution that clean content is more likely to be promoted by YouTube because they have more of a financial interest in that succeeding. So I've always gone that route. So if you have a difference in opinion, I mean, we could agree to disagree on that, but I will probably be pretty confident that I think clean content tends to do better overall. If clean content brings more watch time,

so people watch more of my time, more time in my YouTube channel because it's more broad, more friendly, I would agree with that. If clean contents do that, but I'm not sure if it's about the ads, that brings more money on YouTube. I'm not 100% sure about that. I see what you are saying, though, that YouTube is a business in the time. Right.

I don't, yeah, I don't think YouTube would ever admit that the advertisers generally dictate what's shown or what's not. I would tend to think it would be, but how do you say Ryan's last, I don't. Trahan. Trahan? Trahan. Trahan or Trahan? I've heard like Trahan.

Is it Trahan? Trehan. Yeah, Ryan Trehan. His penny video. Those videos were something that I think YouTube saw as just like anybody could watch it, whether you're five years old or 50 years old, it's just interesting. So I want to say that everything I say is maybe estimation. So I'm probably wrong.

Like I'm not 100%, but it's just from my experience. Yeah. I'm open to being wrong. Yeah, yeah. I think regardless, I mean, I know, same with ARAC. It's just like you know, like I know you're going to hit a million subscribers. So like I'm not worried about that. Yeah, I personally, I wouldn't, I don't think you need an investment.

I would be interested in investing in your channel, but I'd want such a good deal. But I would be, I'd be in it because I know, because I know you're going to do it. I don't want you to invest in my child because it's the guidance and you don't have the guidance that I want. You don't have experience in the path that I want to walk. That's true. So I would tell you to make passive income. How to make passive income.

Pranking people. Tell us your story, your background. My bug-and-court. Yeah, tell us. You came from Cyprus to be a YouTuber. So, yeah, I, I was, I'm doing YouTube for 20. a half years, I slowly discovered that this is what I love. And like, I was watching all these YouTube videos and like I was crying in my country. I actually think that it's something that I can

be silly and like do content also be the business side. It's so beautiful to me. And I really am so happy doing this stuff. And like in my country, I didn't see that growth because I was not good with English as well and like I didn't have the right people around me like now I'm surrounded by YouTubers that they have their own learning share their learning and I was like I have to find a way because my dreams is like very important for me to make them happen so I I cut one way ticket I broke up with my girlfriend she went traveling and I went I came to the United States my family was super supportive to the whole process and I came to the United States with like barely any money from my parents, like just to barely make it.

I was washing the dishes in my house. I was paying half the rent in the beginning. I was cleaning the stuff in my house for me. I was paying $375 rent in my house. And like it was slowly, slowly I was making friends, understanding, studying every day YouTube, making videos. Like I had so, this 24-7, I'm so excited about this YouTube thing. And like I learned, I read books, I watch other YouTube.

I study and slowly, slowly, it's so cool that in three months, in two months, I got from 20,000 subscribers to 110,000 subscribers. Which is totally crazy for me. I'm so grateful for everything. Yeah, that's kind of a sneak peek of my story. Why did you break up with your girlfriend? Was she supportive of it? Or how did that, why not just keep that going?

Or was it just you didn't want to do long distance? Yeah, I don't think. I don't care about anything else, except optimizing for productivity. So having long-distance relationship in this point of my life, I don't think is the best thing that I can't do. So we broke up very happy. I still laugh here. We had great experiences together,

but I don't think it's for me in this part of my life. I was speaking with Jack, what we want both is one interaction per month with a game. That's it. One day. What's our interaction, Jack? Dude, Phidias, what he said was hilarious? What did you tell me verbatim?

You said ideal woman, like a girlfriend. What did you say to me? For me to meet one time with her per month and half... In the half of the day. So this is what I need in this point of my life. I kind of described, like, I don't know if you bleed this out like a... You're married?

He is. Well, kind of. Yeah. I got married in a video of Eric. They surprised me with a marriage. I didn't know. So I'm married now. Wow.

Congratulations. I did go to invite you. Wow. Where did you get married? In a rich place in L.A. In a rich house. Wow. Yeah.

That's a great story. Why YouTube? It just gravitated towards it? Eric wanted to make a good video. So I was like, he was like, oh, we are going to surprise videos. A person to get married. was like for me to get visa as well to stay here.

Yeah. But I'm not sure this will be the case because I think she's kind of crazy and not trustworthy for me to get married with her. So what makes you say that? Because I spend a lot of time with her. Well, we can't say that. Okay. Okay.

But what red flags would you, would you say to our audience? She's alcoholic. Okay. She's, she's cool person. I don't get bored being. Not on here. Right. But her career.

I think sometimes she get paid without people. Right. I love that you are good to are comfortable in this conversation. She lives in Vegas. The algorithm is always listening. So I try to live my life. Some of this stuff and leave it up to interpretation. I live my life as though there's an advertiser who wants to be in the channel.

So I will, uh, whatever they want. whatever they want. So I want to compliment you on something that I think you're doing great on you. I think you are built. I didn't say what I compliment you yet and you said thank you. Because you said you want to compliment. Like thank you. I'm so great.

I know. Yeah. I know. Once a compliment's coming, like already. One thing, two things I like about you. Like you have a great storytelling that I want to, I want to watch to find out. You have a great story telling.

But I think the bigger advantage that you have is like you are vulnerable and transparent and real with the audience. And I think that's why you are getting consistently have views because of this relationship that you built with the audience. And it's very real on YouTube. I see like Emma Chamberlain does this well with her viewers. And like I think this is very rare. And I think that you are doing great. I'm trying to do a better job on this. Yeah.

I would I would say I have a different perception of you after hearing your story. Because I think it's easy to see you in a video is like the rambunctious one who's kind of like pushing the limit. But when you get to know more about you, I would share more of that story. I think when people really get to know you, like I think I would have like a serious moment to every video. At some point, probably midway through the video, we're like, hey guys, for real, here's how I feel. Here's what's going on. Like having a real moment. It's kind of like about the backstory a little bit, just 30 seconds.

And then you could get back to whatever. This is, what you describe this, I think is what the secret source, I believed in retention, like making all these videos. And like, this is I'm so excited. I'm taking notes. Being vulnerable with the audience. And if you notice when I said stuff about my story and all this stuff, like, people want to watch this stuff. It's almost going up. So people crave this real thing of the viewers.

Like, it's so, so cool that you get to connect with like so many. people, if you are like just real and like be open and vulnerable with the audience and like don't want to show off and like being right. Danny Duncan. Danny Duncan is just yeah. Danny Duncan's because he could just he's himself the entire video and it's somehow just really interesting. I think if you if you combined the two of like doing some crazy stuff but also just being yourself 15 minutes just Danny Duncan it. I think Mr. Biss kind of missed the point with the reaction.

keep in really straight, fast, fast, fast, fast, pace, like, optimize, have something, then to watch until the end. I think sometimes, I think if they, I'm not a, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, from my experience, I think it's missing this real YouTube thing with the viewer that this relationship. It will be so, I think this is what I will try to do on YouTube, like balance these two things, like, keep making better videos and growing. but also have the real thing.

I want to give more of myself. I want to connect and be vulnerable and share my story. Tell us how much you're making now. Where's the money coming from? Ad sense, but I try to wait to not get any brand deals fast and I want to be truthful with my viewers and not get any scam brand. I want to wait.

I think I can't wait. I'm making like $5,000, $4,000 per month and it's growing very fast. So I think I will slow down. don't do any fast moves and a way to learn and like do slow moves. I think that's a better thing. What do you think about that? I'm indifferent about it. I think if you get a good brand, you may as well, just knowing that you're going to reinvest it all. I think your audience would not care. I think it's, as long as it's not like a scam, as long as you do a brand that's good

and you say, hey, I'm using this money here. Here's how much I'm getting paid for this, putting it all in here. Or, you know, they're making this video possible so I could do this. I think as long as it's for the sake of more content. I think it's fine. I always say a sponsorship doesn't necessarily have to lower the quality of the content that you're putting out with it in it. Yeah, I got to say on the iced coffee hour, these sponsorships, Jack and Alex, spent a lot of time trying to make these as entertaining as possible, sometimes even more entertaining

than the actual podcast. And we've done these funny skits for this to family that one, the one sponsorship we did with Bessie, it's funny. And, like, I think that was just as entertaining as the actual video itself. Do we haven't sponsored in this video? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, there's going to be a sponsor in this video. So let's go to the sponsor. You know what I realized, Alex?

That you're wearing two different kinds of socks? Yes, but you know what else? Oh, what? We could just sponsor ourselves in this video. How about that? You know what? That sounds great. I always like my own posts anyway.

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Enjoy the discount. And with that said, let's get back to the video. I don't know if we're going to put it here. Oh, yeah, well, we could always just do it. Or did I hear that I had that Graham, Stefan, said no to a sponsor, I don't know where they're putting them. They got to put them in the right spots. Or bankroll coffee.com.

We're selling coffee now, bankroll coffee. You got your hodal coffee. Whoops. Got all the 20 cent iced coffee. Get your coffee. Tell us some of the crazy stories. He met David Dobrick, dude. How is that?

How did you meet David? video break. So I want to say that I was, I'm not actually amazed by people like, but he was cool. Like we showed up to make a video with him with a hundred strangers in his house. He was like, guys open the fridge, hung around in the, like he had so many expensive items. Like that's kind of very cool and humble in a way. But yeah, it was very interesting. Also one thing that struck me, he said that he was living in a beautiful house. in his house in the here's the video.

So he said that he messed with his creativity living in that expensive house and that high-end house because he wakes up like, I don't know. I think there is something about that and that's, I want to try to know I love not having any material things in comparison to you that I saw your house.

You are all about material things. It's the fish tank that gives it away. But yeah, I think there is something there. When you have so many things, what do you think about that? And he said that once you have everything, you feel not very motivated. And he said David told him that once he moved into this $9.5 million home, contrary to his past like one and a half million, two million dollar home, he feels like not as much drive and motivation to go and make these videos.

I don't know. For me, anytime I've spent more money, I have more motivation to make. it back. So for me, even getting a higher mortgage was like, well, now I got to work even more. So I don't know. I have an opposite uh, opposite perception of that.

For me, it's different between a house like this and a $10 million. You're moving. True. You move in here, did you think got less creativity or more creativity? What you think? Tough. I would say, uh, so far this last month has been less creativity here because I had missed

working out in the backyard. That's, that's my honest thing. And yeah, in Los Angeles, I could work out in the backyard with, like, the trees and the birds and, like, I got a little fountain in the back. And the weather is better over there to be able to work in the backyard. Here, I'm only doing work in this room. And when you don't get a lot of sunlight or when it's so hot outside in your only windows here, you feel less creative. I think that's really it. But, no, as far as the size of the house, it doesn't make it any.

I actually prefer more size. What do you think? You live here as well. what you had the same transition with him. I would say I feel more creative here, but I was kind of miserable in L.A. I did not like L.A. And I was also way busier in L.A.

Like way busier. So I couldn't focus so much on the editing and stuff like that because I had so much going on because we didn't have Alex yet. Nice, Alex. Yeah. So I would say for me it balances out. I do like the more space.

I do like the aquarium here. But I don't, I just need a better place to work. And I don't think it's in the sense. office. So you are thinking like you be more productive to be outside the house. I like outside. Yeah, I work really well outside. It's just so hot here. So I told Alex, we're going to get a canopy built in the back where it's going to be like this, I don't know how to describe a can. It's a little outdoor canopy with the screens around it so you could block it off like little like the curtains. You could block it off with a with a circular table.

And we should see about mister. AC unit or something? No, no, the misters. You reach people. You're rich people. Because no, when I'm planning, I want to be gently misted. It's so hot in the summer. Like a butterfly garden as well. Yeah. I like that.

I like that. And we, I don't know if we need a fountain in the back or something. Because it's all about creating the right atmosphere to be creative and to have those thoughts. And sometimes when you're just in a room, it doesn't flow. It's nice. Graham, if you put a fountain in the backyard, you'd never turn it on. That's true. No, it's a fountain in L.A.

It's always on. 24-7. It's always on. I find something very weird that you do, guys. You're the finance guys. He explained me that every time that you remember to the other person like $5 because of this and these that you own him. This is very weird for me.

Very weird. For a while. Jack paid me. How much was it to look at? $15. $15 to lick a moldy donut. I like that's different though. He's saying like, let's say like someone goes and pays for parking

and then the other person's like, I'll split it with you. Like I, he thinks that it's weird because he thinks he just, ah, it doesn't matter. I'll just go and do it. We're finance guys.

Especially when you are a multimillioner. No. Like we're splitting the bill. You take into account the tax. You take into account everything. Oh yeah. Because that's how you get to be a millionaire to begin with. It's like a,

no, no, it is. It is. It is. If I didn't have those habits, I wouldn't be here today. It's because I was meticulous about every single penny. I've always been like that. I always will be.

I hope I am a millionaire, but not like that. It's up to you. I mean, listen, everyone is free to live their life however they want. But I've always been meticulous for spending. And to me, it's the same thing is looking at a bodybuilder, be like, oh, you could eat a pizza. And they're like, well, I didn't get like this because I ate pizzas. I'd be like, no, but you could eat a pizza.

I'm like, yeah. But you don't get like. this eating pizzas. It's the same way. You've got to be disciplined with finance. I love it. I respect it, but I think this is not for me the way of life. That's fair. So yeah, yeah, this is what I was And that's the thing about personal finance is personal. So anybody is free to do whatever they want. I truly believe whatever, if it's your money, you could do whatever you want with it. That's what I believe. So people certainly could look at me and be like, I wouldn't do that. That's fine. I mean, it's okay. You think you got uncomfortable,

you got uncomfortable defending your position on that? You did look a little... Defensive. No, I mean, but that's how I think of things. I achieved my dream of a friend in Graham, Stefan. Ladies and gentlemen, drop the mic.

That's how I think of us. That's how I think of it. I really respect it and I understand it. Do you? What? Do you? A hundred percent. I'm offended.

This is pretty open-minded. But he's also extremely close-minded. What'd you say? I don't want to continue. Oh, yeah. Graham is hurt. Yeah. Fidius, you're going to have to.

No, Jack, I'm being serious. Yeah. Fidius, he's hurt. I'm sorry. I'm kidding. Oh, my God. Oh, my gosh. Oh, my God.

Oh, my God. I was like, I, uh, this is the best Prague ever got to. Oh, my God. That was a good communication. There you go, man. Oh my God. I had to get you. I was going to cry.

No, no, no. Oh, my God. Whoa, I got excited. Here we go. Good job. Good job. We're liven it up. We're going to liven it up a little bit.

Yeah, you got to be 100% back. I had to do that. Thank you. Thank you, but. See, I got what it. I could be a prank channel. We prank Jack, too. We took his.

We took his watch. They took my watch. Yeah. So, yeah. I want, I want to ask a question. It seems from the outside that you milk every possible thing. I want to offend you. Not in a bad way.

There's nothing you could say that would offend me. But I think you are milking every cent possible on YouTube. You have three channels. You are posting. Five channels. What? Five channels. Five channels. Yeah, you are posting like a lot.

of videos per week. You are optimizing. You have all this stuff. And like, I think you are, you are trying to push as much content, like get as much money as humanly possible. And I think you might be missing on the long term doing all this milking thing now, which I understand you are a finance guy and like you want to optimize and you want, you show the results, you are transparent, you are vulnerable. I agree with all this stuff. But what is your opinion that you might be hurting the long-term thing, milking everything. No, okay, so you call it milking. We call it the infinite monetization loop.

That's all it is. It's, okay, so it's potatoes, potatoes, it's the infinite monetization loop. So, I don't know, I think YouTube is so fickle. And people come and go on YouTube all the time. And I think when you have an opportunity, it would be irresponsible to waste it. So I think in a position that I've worked and built up to, it wouldn't make sense to scale back at this point. I just, first of all, I love what I do.

So for me, it doesn't seem like milking or infinite monetization. It's just like, I love it. And then I want to see like, how could I grow? How can I expand? How can I continue this? And I mean, there's going to be a point eventually. Like, I can't see myself like 70, 80 years old. Be like, what's up you guys is Graham here?

And, you know, I'm sure there's going to be an aspect to that that we'll stick around. What's up, guys, you is Graham. What's up? you is guys here, Graham. But, no, for me, it's like, well, the main channel, I've kept up the same upload schedule since the very beginning. So that's not changing. Second channel, that's easy.

I mean, that's just like, that's fun. Just getting to react to, we did one with Matthew Lesko. It's just fun. Let's just 30 minutes, watch a video, just be hyped up and watch. That's fine. Then there's this. So this is like once a week, we get to meet someone new and have a great time. So I don't mind it.

So between them all, it's, you know, even though there are nine videos posting every single week to me, it doesn't seem, I mean, this is normal. Like, it would be different if we weren't confident in the content we were putting out, but I really am. Like, I enjoy the content we put out. I think we provide great value with the main channel. The second channel is always very entertaining and we'll always have an audience. And this is the family, I feel like, is a seed that we just planted that's going to grow. And this is a great way where we just like, we talk and we have an audience that just likes to say. get back, relax, and just like, I don't know, hear us, our opinions and let's talk.

Yeah, I've always just, I've just done whatever I've wanted to do. And if there's a point where I don't want to do YouTube anymore, then that'll be something to approach at that juncture. But as of right now, I think it's, it's all about just like you have, you have an opportunity, take it. So just like if your goal now is to make as much money as humanly possible in the next few years. I don't even look at the numbers anymore. I mean, to be honest with you, I mean, it's, like, it's,

like, it would be like a bit like a game of chess where it's just like that, that is a component of it. Like that's, that's a pawn that you, you got to go and like, you know, conquer that pawn or whatever. But at this point, it's about just providing a lot of value and I really enjoy it. I would tell you, I mean, if I were miserable doing this, I would just stop. So, so, yeah, you explain me more the reason behind the, I can see. Because from the outside watching maybe Mr. Beast now putting like 10, 10, you have five, channels and like uploading so much content on it and like it for me maybe it's loose a bit it's like a content machine that is a business more than a youtube thing like so yeah this is what

i was watching from outside i can't understand the yeah i do think there is such a thing is too much but i don't think mr beast has too much he his thing is about reaching different demographics and in different audience in every channel like the like the game channel is going to be different than the main channel, which is going to be different from the Shorts channel. And that's the same thing with us. We want to reach, like, the main channel's education, second channel's reaction. We've got a vlog is for people who want to see a vlog. This is a podcast. So everything serves a different audience in a different way. And we never really try to post more than once a day. So every day, if you want to watch a new video, you have it available. But I do think

there is a point where it's like you can't just, like on the main channel, three is the limit. If I posted every day on the main channel, people would get overwhelmed, and I think that would actually hurt. But I think when you find the right ingredients to make a channel, you have to keep that consistency and just keep plowing through it. Like, if your channel does well, like, you should never miss an upload, ever. That's probably one of the worst things that you could do is, oh, I don't feel like making a video. I'm not going to, because once you have an audience, and they're like, that, that's your obligation is the viewer. So same with us. We will never miss an upload

on the ice coffee. No matter what, you know like every Sunday, sure, I think there's once or twice we posted like an hour or too late, but we'll never miss an upload on some. I'm allowed to disagree,

right? On the upload thing consistent. You're not allowed to disagree. Don't start crying again. Let's see. Disagree. But yeah, I think if,

I think the goal is to upload the best possible content for you is different. For me, I think it's kind of different. because I cannot make. I'm only one person now. I have an editor in my country.

I'm helping air. I'm trying to find things out and learn as fast as possible. So I feel comfortable with uploading, not with the schedule whenever I can because I'm making these videos that is impossible for me to make it very difficult. So I don't think upload schedule is for everyone. But I think for a lot of people, it works. I would disagree.

I would say there are very few channels that can get away with no upload schedule. I think the only actually the only channel that I would say that I've ever seen be a success without a consistent upload schedule

is Michael Reeves. It's the only one. We just told Fiddeus. He didn't know who Michael Reeves. Michael Reeves. Yeah. His views are down, sure. His views are down,

but I believe his views are down only because he's taken so much time off. And for an algorithm, too, they reward. Mark Robert, Mr. Beast, dream. All these guys

they don't have an upload schedule. Ah, but Mark Roberber has what 20 million subscribers. So what does it? But he's still consistently because he's already built a month and sometimes he meets the upload once a month. Because he's already built up an audience for years.

I think I'm a little bit more on Fiddeus's side. No, I'm just saying it's wrong. I love. For some creators, it makes sense to have an upload schedule such as us. But for some other creators like Fidius, it just makes sense to put out the best possible content you can do. I mean, look at who Fidias is like gearing his content towards like Mr. Beast.

I remember I saw a tweet Mr. Beast put out like a, like a maybe a few weeks ago. He said, hey, guys, sorry, I've thrown away the last three videos if you're wondering why we haven't posted in three weeks just because I wasn't happy with the content. And I think that's what makes him so successful as YouTube. Every video puts out, you know it's a good video. But he doesn't grow like that. I think we're confusing people who have already reached like the pinnacle of success versus like what it takes to get there. I think what it takes to get there is a consistent upload schedule. I think it's a differentiated factor.

Also, so it's both. So some people like for me, to have a different video that every, and anything else on YouTube, it takes me three, four weeks to make this video. So for me, this is a way for me to differentiate myself from the crowd. I think you need help.

Not like you need help, but like you need an assistant. I need that too. I think you need someone to help you. And I think the best way, the best analogy to put this is like, it's like a, you need a chair with four legs.

And I think one of those legs is like having a good video. The next one is being authentic. The next one is a consistent upload schedule. I don't know what the other one was, but you, but you need, you need four. I need four of them. I don't know. I would say a good group of people to support you. Good title thumbnail. Let's say. This is a fourth one. It's got to be marketable. So you, you could technically have a chair with three legs that kind of stands up without a consistent upload schedule, but it wouldn't be a sturdy. I think if you combine everything you have with a consistent upload schedule where they know, like every Monday, day at six, they'll get a video, no matter what.

I think that sort of discipline in getting in that schedule is going to help in every other aspect as well. I agree with that. I agree with that. I agree. I agree as well, because when you see a person once a month, you are going to like him more if you see him once per week.

So I kind of agree with it, but I believe it's a imbalance. So let's talk, because a lot of podcasts get to details that not a lot of people care about. So let's talk about more broad topic. Yeah, I want to ask you, what is the most difficult challenge that you've done so far?

It was when I went to the army in my country. You went to the army in your country. You want to talk about that a little bit? Not that much. Do you feel comfortable talking about? Wait, wait. This isn't a video. No, this is not a video.

Oh, just when you were in the army. Yeah, it's just something you don't feel comfortable talking about it, Or you just don't want to talk about it? No, I can talk about it. When I went to, I don't think I said it ever publicly, but yeah, I went to Navy SEAL training in my country. So I finished, that was the most difficult thing. It took me eight months of training.

We started a lot of people and we finished very few. That was the most difficult. Did you make it? Yeah. You made it. To be a Navy SEAL? That explains the feat, like the endurance. Wait, wait, wait.

That explains it. You completed Navy SEAL training for you. So technically you could be a Navy SEAL. I am a Navy SEAL. No, actually. Really? Yeah, in my country, this kind of different. And so I will explain this.

So I kind of feel like I have told by anyways. So in my country, we have to, everyone has to do army. So it's mandatory. Sure. I I I I I you had the choice to go to everywhere and I chose the Navy SEAL part in my country they would say I'm how say it's OIC in my country so this is the it's eight months of intense that they take the Navy SEAL training in the United States and they make their own so it's yeah I'm trained Navy SEAL wow and we have to do 14 months so it was eight months and then I'll

six months. How old were you at the time? I was 18. What made it so difficult? Eight months of complete struggle. Like what? What time do you? Like walk us through a day. What time do you wake up? I don't want to get into so many details, but I'm not sure if I'm allowed to get into the details of the training. Sure. But yeah, that's the that's one of the most difficult. Like people, I think, they don't know this about me. So that was one of the reasons that I believe I have such a discipline because it was very tense train. We started like 70 people and we finished only 13 people.

Wow. And like it was so mentally like so I was like very struggling the training. So like that's why I'm so happy now because I, We're sitting a couch and it's our job. So it's like so beautiful. So I think, yeah, I think that was a big development thing for me. Just tell me what time you wake up in the morning. I'm just curious.

In the, for the Navy SEAL. It depends, but every day, 5 a.m. It's not, okay, 5 a.m. That's easy. But when you sleep at 2 a.m. Wow. It's kind of difficult. Wow.

Yeah. So when people drop out, they went from 70 to 13. Do people just say, hey, can't do this anymore? They get kicked out, or how does that work? They say, I'm out. And they ring the bell and they leave. Wow. Yeah.

Why didn't you ring the bell? I love talking about this stuff, but I'm kind of uncomfortable. I would try to answer the last question. Why did I not ring the bell? I don't think I like giving up. Like it was more of an eco thing, a pride thing. I also saw this as an ultimate challenge. I was remembered like I would look back in my life and what will look if I will see that I gave up and like I left.

So for me from the beginning that I went, it was very difficult for me especially. But I had no other choice. It was only one road finishing. So no other. Cool. I asked him right before you came down in here, I said, how do you maintain such a great physique? but only exercise every other day. And I'm sure that had to contribute

in some way, shape, or form. Yeah. The other day is still pretty good. What? Exercising every other day is good. Yeah. But he looks crazy, man. You should see him with a shirt off.

I want somebody to take this out of context. Let's a second. We need a channel. Jack Selby out of context. And just get clips. Someone created an Instagram page. That's why you love me so much. I'm kidding.

Tell us about your upcoming videos. What sort of challenges do you want to put yourself through next? I'm so excited. We have the best job in the world and I just want to have fun. So I'm thinking the best way, for example, I want to go to an island with seven days with no food and water. This is fun for me and I want to do this. Now I have a lot of ideas.

Every day I'm coming one hour with a lot of. ideas that I'm excited to feel. So I have a lot of ideas. Would you do that? Would I do that? For seven days, no food and water? No. No.

I mean, first of all, that's just not, that's not what I enjoy. I would enjoy going to an island where, where I could work with Wi-Fi. Seriously. Like, I went, like, what would make me so happy is if I could take this office, put it in, like, let's say Hawaii for like a week or two. But I had this office here, but I had this office here, but I, you know. just have a view the ocean like on the ocean i think would be that's that thing i think that sounds awesome i would i would snap my fingers i would do that right now so if i want an island for seven days without food or water i would do it alone that makes it oh alone interesting i don't know if i

would i would i'm just curious why what would what makes that appealing it's just like it's a once in a lifetime opportunity to do something like that and you could do that anytime you could choose any point if you want to go on an island it's unlikely that i actually will right but what i'm saying is Like, like, think about it when you're on your deathbed, okay, at the end of your life. You're like, like, did I accomplish everything that I possibly wanted to and could have accomplished? And also, who knows if I'm going to enjoy it or not? I haven't tried it. And what if I do actually end up hating it?

But at least I have, like, I could say, like, you know, I did that for a week of my life. And I'm sure I'll learn something, too, from the struggle and, like, surviving. I don't know. It just sounds like a crazy, awesome, like, once in a lifetime experience. Well, we could lock the fridge from you for seven days. And I would have to go hunting. I would have to hunt. So I watch these.

video that a person survived 300 days on an island with only some minimum stuff in life. I was really crying. This is what I love. This is what makes me tick, what makes me excited. And I think that's why it's kind of seems obvious to me that I'm going to probably, if I am still alive with the video that I'm doing, I will probably be successful because I'm willing to go the extra mile, but I'm enjoying it as well. and that makes it so easy for me to go in an island for seven days.

I'm looking forward. I'm excited to do it. And I think that's why I will probably be getting. When are you going to do that? I don't know, maybe in a month from now. A month. Have you identified the island? Yeah, it's going to be in Mr. Beast Island.

Oh, it is? Is it going to be that one? Yeah. Aren't there like pigs and stuff on that island? Yeah, but I will not eat them. I'm going to like catch fish. I mean, does he know about? The island or he sold the island.

So it's not his. So I would be trespassing. But I don't care to break the rules. Should we, should we broadcast that on? Should we take it out? Maybe it's better we not. I don't care. I'm sure.

It's fine. Okay. We're not condoning it. Right. Right. But I don't want someone to foil your plan. Like they know the owner or something like that. And they're like, oh, hey, by the way, videos.

That would make a great video. Yeah. No, I'm not leaving. Yeah. Get evicted from the island. Wow. You know what I thought would make would have made a great vlog. We missed it.

I told Alex to do this. Last week was the hottest day ever on record in Death Valley, 134 degrees. I told Alex to go and visit Death Valley on that day. You told Alex to go. Yes. You didn't want to go. I was in, I was in L.A.

Saga, good bus. I would have done it. I would have done it because I wanted to experience. Like the hottest day ever recorded on the planet and it's Death Valley 45 minutes away. you not take that opportunity? It'd be the hottest day on earth. I would drive there and just be like, yep, it's hot.

Time to go back. No, I don't know. Put your hand out the window. All right. There you go. With the air condition. Yeah, yeah. But, I mean, that would have been an interesting video

surviving 24 hours on the hottest day on earth. Let's do it for five days without water and then I'm excited. What makes you excited about like not having water food and like five days. I like challenging myself and I don't think I challenge myself if I go to a place that it will not be challenging for me. Because I have like metal capabilities and discipline

and I did a lot of stuff in the past. So I feel like I want to push myself every time more and I think that's why the videos will get crazier and bigger in my opinion. Got it. Okay. So it's kind of like David Blaine. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I could see that. I cried every time I watched his video his big inspiration like I love this

this is crazy madness I think you love him as well right yeah he's awesome yeah similar to this seven days buried alive I survived 30 days on top in the cloud was crazy that was crazy it's yeah and his stuff is real

speaking about this stuff yeah his stuff is real which is nuts I loved his podcast with Joe Rogan about how he does a lot of these tricks. They're all just training, years of training to be able to regurgitate a frog and, like, fill your stomach with, like, enough fluid to, like, the frogs don't die in there. It's nuts. I noticed that. Maybe he's some, his brain cells, maybe he said he can turn off pain.

He said he can just turn it off and that's how he puts the needle to his arms. That was how it's rumored that, um, who, who is the, uh, the Buddhist, uh, I forget... Gandhi? No, it wasn't Gandhi. I hate to... The one who burned themselves alive. And it's that famous picture.

It's a famous picture of the monk. The monk... It was... Dan. It was the rage against the machine, like, album cover. But anyway, apparently this monk was able to get

in such a meditative state that they would not feel pain. Is it Tich-Quang Duke? Maybe. Can you turn around, show me the picture? It's funny. I can see this picture? Yeah.

Yeah, that's... Anyway, yeah. That's so interesting. Right. What the human can do and the human potential and like how you can do all this stuff. So interesting. Yeah. And I believe, I mean, it makes sense that if you train your mind long enough that you should be able to cut off.

Because pain is just a threshold that saying like, hey, don't do this. It's going to hurt you. Yeah, it's just neurons. Right. So if you like find a way to Exactly The message is that the neurot sense that he's painful Maybe you can't

I don't know Yeah same with David Blaine It's with the gag reflex Let's say for him swallowing certain things It's just it's training It's overcoming that your body's ability to be like Oh no this gotta come out What else?

What else? What do you think Graham or me or Alex Or anyone here could improve on Like what could we be doing better in your vision I think he's a great adab in the vlog he's a great character I think

like me in the air rack videos I think people like me because of my any sense and like of my actually love being there

and like he have the same thing and maybe better than me like it feels like I know he's holding the camera I think he's doing a great job I think he can spend more time on YouTube analytics

to understand the retention graphs and stuff and that will improve a lot editing process I think you are doing a great job. I think you can push yourself to read more books and push yourself to do different things and improve faster.

And I think, what about you? I think you have to make shorter outros. I actually agree with that. That's fair. Yeah, that's fair. I'll take it. And intro. And also I think you can make more evergreen videos

because how I think about YouTube is more about the long term. Like if you see Mr. Beast views, he's getting views from the videos that he uploaded two years ago. And that's like a big thing. So if you make a video about a currency that is like a Bitcoin, whatever was Ditchcoin that you made the last video, I think how I think about Evergreen videos, I got this again from a philosopher Nasim Talep

he said about to make something relevant for a lot of years you have to think about it how much history have so for example cars have like 50 years of history it's more likely to be around for the next 50 years

so when you make a video about Dik coin whatever that is it's not more likely to be relevant in two years from now so I think making video that are relevant three years from now, it will improve a lot of the long-term growth. Yeah, the problem with that is,

there's only so many evergreen videos that I can make. So I could make, like, one a day, but within three weeks, it'd be out for the year. We tried with a video where I invested $100,000 in a stock-picking monkey, because I feel like that regardless of, well, I guess there is the time that the stock changes and stuff like that.

But I think, guys, maybe, I don't think you are, Maybe if you think more outside the box, it will be like, I don't say that. I know everything about this, but maybe invest now some money on this. And like see one year from now the results and like whatever, think more long term. There is so much stuff. If you are creative and think outside the box, I don't think there is excuses. That is so much evergreen videos. This is just my opinion.

Maybe I'm stupid. That's fair. That's fair. Well, Jack, we'll think about more evergreen videos. We can do that. what you think guys I can improve as well so this is within the realm

of like YouTube and posting and stuff like that everything like me behaving making grams cry or whatever how you think I can improve what do you think Graham consistency that's the only thing that I think you could do

that would take you to the next level big schedule stick with it no matter what I think that same dedicate you could do it though Because that's what irks me is that you have the discipline to do it. You'll find a way. If you tell yourself every Tuesday, 6 p.m., I'm going to post a video I'm so proud of no matter what. You could do it, man. If you could run a half marathon and mess up your feet like that, if you could spend a week at an airport,

if you could go on an island and not eat for a week, you will find a way to make it happen. I know you will. A hundred percent. And then my only other thing is see if you could find someone. who's just like you who could work with you on this. Just like Eric has, what was Mac?

You mean as a character in the video or is helping me in the business? Whatever you want. I don't think they need to be a character in the video. I think probably your personality is enough to fill the entire channel. Maybe there's a bit of a side character. They don't need to be in it.

They could just be behind the scenes. Just helping you bounce ideas back and forth, filming editing, and then you're just responsible for being in front of the camera. To do this alone is pretty difficult to grow at the scale that you want to grow at and everything. I think, I agree with that. I think it would help a lot to have someone.

You know, it reminds me of how brave wilderness grew. Have you seen that channel? Coyote Peterson. Yeah. And for a year and a half, he was one of the most, I don't want to say one of the most of you channels, but all of his videos were like number one trending, every single one. But he had this series where he would get stung by insects and then just review. it basically.

He's not doing that on his own. I mean, he's traveling with two or three people at all times who are filming. And he's just responsible for being in front of the camera. That could be you. Is that you're so good on camera, I don't know if I would bother with, like, filming and stuff. Like some of it firsthand filming you could do. But I think if you found someone who could be on board with you, who gets in early, too,

like as you're growing to be a part of it. And just, you know, if you want to split a portion of the channel with them so that they're equally invested or work out a flat fee, just find some way to pay them, I think that would do well. But bring someone on.

You need to partner in this one. So I will get someone who's good at all the things that you don't need to spend time on. From your experience, you think giving a portion on your channel to your editor to the people that you work with, you think this is a good move? It would probably be cheaper to,

give a flat thing. But my, so it's two things. One, it would be cheaper if you're like, hey, I'll give you X amount per video. But they might not feel as enticed,

might not feel as motivated to, to watch you grow as well. I mean, Jack, you, do you, I mean, obviously Jack's answer is going to, no, I would, I would probably agree.

That is better to give a portion of your channel. Yeah, I do. But it depends because, like, if they're just an editor, then no. But if they provide more than being an editor, like they're, they want to, they want to see you grow as a brand,

maybe not just like the success of the channel, but they want to push you up in any way that they can. Like they aid in that way as well, then I would make, I think it does make sense. That's a good point. Yeah, if you just need editing, just hire an editor.

If you just need a filmer, just hire a filmer, because you'll be able to direct the people as you want it. So you'll be able to get the same product. But, yeah, Yeah, that's a good point. I can see the value that you're saying because I don't care about like short-term money. I care about the long-term thing.

And like if you have people invested in your child, you are naturally going to perform long-term better. Because they are going to be more motivated, learning more, and be more excited. Yeah. I see this with Mark and Eric. Like he, Mark have a portion in the whole thing. and like he when erag is not there like mag is shout out to mac he's so talented

he's so great editor great motivated like with the right people like when eric is not there mark is like he's not joking like because they have a skin in the game in the area like a thing like he let's do this let's do his pushing and like you want this I think you need a mac or a jack if they're not a mac or a jack or an Alex then um then

I would just say, just find someone for a specific task. So you are saying that it has to be as well, very specific to with who you're going to make. It's difficult. Yeah, and maybe it's too early right now. Maybe you need to continue growing and seeing like if there's a budget or what's involved. So you know a little bit more. Like I would see this. Post a consistent schedule.

Make a consistent schedule once a week. Post always there. Do that for like four months, maybe three months and you'll know within three months. If you can afford someone else, what you could pay them and what you need. I'd say once a week is too severe of a change. Like once every like two weeks is I feel like a little bit more reasonable. Gram, I love you, but I will not follow your advice on the posting thing because I will tell you my thing. And like five years from now, I want the videos to be good.

And like I cannot make that once a week. Because the idea has to be evergreen. The video have to be optimized for new viewers. All these is going a lot to. For example, I'm making, I have a hundred thousand. subscribers and we are getting 300,000 views. So there is some interesting behind this, how you get more views than your channel. So I think making this optimized video for five years be still relevant, it takes a lot.

So I think I will upload when as soon as I can't upload. I will work every day 24-7. As soon as I can upload, I will upload. So to have goal as a subscriber number, like for me to have a subscriber number, like for me have a subscriber goal, it's better for me to have like how many members will convert into being paid men invest. This will mean like I will have to connect better with the viewers. I have to show more of myself. I have to give more of my say. What do you think about that? Yeah, I think you could still have dedicated people who don't need to pay $5 a month. And you will get the people who,

who can financially support the channel like that. But I think some of our most dedicated people are not the members. I don't know if we have memberships turned on on the iced coffee hour. I don't think so. But I would say even on the main channel, the most dedicated subscribers are not members, but they're just like, they're the first. We got the first, like, Graham fan. What's up, Grand Fan, or DGB?

Josh McGoo. Jeff Runesville. Whoa. Yeah, Digby Antho. Maton. Yeah, Maton is every video. He knows we chat with him every day. Literally almost every day we talk to Maton.

And we've done that for months. Yeah. Yeah, by the way, what I said before, maybe I'm stupid, just think different ways to do stuff and I just want to stress them with clever people to ask them, is this a good idea or not? But another thing that you, I think you do, I talk to jug about it, like being able to say in one video of yours

that guys, we responded to 70% of your comments that stick to me for years. So this is a way to connect with it. So I think that was kind of very... I'd spend probably two hours a day if I were you, responding to all the comments. As often as you can,

it does help. We do that. On the IceCon, this episode is going to post, Jack, you're probably commenting right now. Yeah, I get to like all the comments for the first day.

Yeah. Yeah, it really, it's good, and it shows that you're appreciative. So that's what I would do. I mean, it's going to be hard at some point, but an hour a day. An hour a day. Just wake up an hour earlier,

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