The Iced Coffee Hour - How To Beat The Casino: Why Bluff Loses $100,000's To Make Millions

Episode Date: June 21, 2026

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Are you one of those media strategy people clicking through slides, scrolling spreadsheets? Yes? Good. This is for you. Because on Spotify, there's an audience that's different. Locked in. Loyal, invested. They're called fans. Fans don't just listen to music. They feel seen by it, like it belongs to them. So when your brand shows up on Spotify, that's who you're talking to. And you're right next to artists like me, Lizzo. So, are you ready to talk to fans? Spotify Advertising. You're among fans. So what's the craziest thing you've done for money?

I've done some crazy things. No! Oh, wait! We just got $45,000. I walk through a casino to go get dinner. I cannot walk past that table and not put $100 on it. We're going to play. Free bet blackjack.

The offers that I've gone from these places are so out of this world. It's like, wow, $50 million. This is going to be generational wealth bonus. I guarantee it. And I was like, oh my gosh, I didn't know, like, you can make that much money off of gambling on YouTube. And I thought, like, it would be banned and everything. How do you make sure you don't get addicted? You're obviously playing a game that is designed to beat you.

Down 27,000. I don't even want to talk. What's the most you've ever seen someone lose? I just watched this guy lose $700,000 the other day. $5,000 a spin like this. Have you ever seen gambling truly ruined someone's life? Bobby, aka Bluff, you are known for gambling your entire paycheck, crazy amounts of philanthropy, and also your extremely viral content. Thank you so much for coming on the ice coffee hour.

Thank you for inviting me. When was your first time gambling? In London, when I was 18, two days after my birthday, I went to a brewery or a bar, a pub, actually is what they call it out there. I went to a pub to have my first legal beer with my friend's dad, and they had, like, one of those it was like a random i don't know what they call it out there it's basically like a slot and i played that and lost 50 euro and was that appealing to you no it was actually horrible and then i like never actually really gambled right so that was just the first time and then i had i had never gambled after that until maybe i was like 21 in san diego i went with like two of my best friends

to uh barona it's a 18 plus and it's smoke free which is nice but uh uh We go there and we're playing roulette. I think I lost like $200. My buddy lost $50. My other friend lost $150. And like it was fun, but it was just like, ah, like $200 takes me like three days to make at work. So it's like I don't want to do that.

But then, you know, as I got older and I made a little more money and I would go to the casino and like one day I went there and I had gotten like a bonus from work and I went to the casino and lost $3,000 and like I can't afford to lose. 3,000. I was just like, oh my God, I was sick to my stomach. But it was just like, all right, like, I'll just do that maybe once a year. I'll just gamble once a year. So when did you realize you could turn gambling though into a like a viable business? So are you guys familiar with Bretzky? So I used to see him when I would scroll like on TikTok or Instagram. He would randomly pop up. I would never follow him or anything. I don't I don't like follow like

celebrities or anything just because their lives are so crazy compared to what I was living. But I went out to San Diego back in 2024 in April on my lady's birthday, which was unfortunate. One of my best friends was getting married. And I stayed at my friend Robbie's house, which is a friend that I've known for like 10 years from the scootering stuff. And I stayed at his house. He was in the casino affiliate marketing stuff. And he had worked with Bretzky, and he was actually pretty good friends with him. And he just, I forget exactly how he was brought up.

But Bretzky was brought up. And I was like, oh, like, yeah, he's funny. Like, I wonder how he's doing or whatever. And Robbie's like, oh, yeah, no, he, like, makes a killing. Like, this is how much he does. Like, this is what he does. He does YouTube videos. And I was like, oh, my gosh.

I didn't know, like, you can make that much money off of gambling on YouTube. And I thought, like, it would be banned and everything. So he tells me all the logistics and stuff. And I was like, oh, like, I could do that. And he's like, oh, you should. Like, I think you should do it. Because he, Robbie was getting into the actual casino space, starting his own business.

So, you know, sure enough, like three weeks later, I posted my first video, gambling, eating a cockroach. Actually, I was eating crickets. So what was your strategy? Because you blew up. You got like 100,000 followers in like 43 days. Yeah, yeah. So from that first conversation until my first video,

I basically watched a whole bunch of different creators. I was watching everyone that was in the gambling space, which wasn't many at the time. I think I got in at the right. time, which was, uh, which helped a lot. Um, but I was watching like the top four, five gambling creators, uh, and then I would branch out to other, um, niches like, uh, like cars, because I like cars or just normal lifestyle vlog stuff. And I would just see like, you know, when they would post, how often they would post their thumbnails, their titles, how long the

videos are. How do they introduce, like, how do they introduce themselves in the videos? What is their catch within the first three seconds to keep people watching. And then I would just Google a lot of things about, you know, social media and how, how like the brain works and algorithms on YouTube. And I strategized all that together. And then I put it in one. And then I just started making my own videos. And I just think what really helped was the timing because not many people were into the gambling space. First off, it's very expensive. And if people are doing it, they're old. older. So when I got into it, I was like one of the younger games and I was doing a lot of table games because everyone was filming slots. Not much table game stuff. And I know there's a

huge target audience for that because I was never into slots. I was always into table games. So I was trying my hardest to get into the table game stuff as soon as possible. But the stuff before really took off because I was doing like that challenge series that was like really popular in trending at the time where I was betting like 10 cents for every follower that I would get. So it started off on day one. I had zero dollars. And on day 30, I'm betting like $8,000 or something. I forget exactly the number. How did you get the money to do that initially? When I used to work at the dealership, I was making good money. So I was saving a lot of my money. My dad was always telling me the Dave Ramsey thing, like save 30% and whatever. So I had like a pretty

good chunk of change, saved up about $200,000. So you were able to stash away quite. a bit of cash. Yes. Okay. And you were using this to fund the YouTube channel. Well, I, I, I stacked up a lot of cash on the side just because like, you know, for a rainy day. And so when you're gambling, though, how do you decide how much you're going to play? Because 300 could go pretty quickly if you get like on a losing streak. It was, it was going really quick. The first month, it was, I was on like a crazy losing streak and I was down like 45,000 in the first month. And I was like, oh my God. I was like, this has to work or I'm screwed.

And then I had like an upswing, which was really nice. I was down. I was, I think my peak was like 43,000 I was down. And then within three days, I was up 9K. So I had like some crazy swing back up. And then I, this is when I was doing that 10 cent series. So then I told myself, I was like, okay, like, you know, now that I'm in the profit on this series and like, I've gained over 100,000 followers. and 100,000 subscribers on YouTube,

you know, I could start putting my money towards a different aspect. Now that I got like, I built like a good following. Now I can start using the money to, you know, maybe do the long form stuff because I was focused on short form at the time. So basically it came to the point of if I lose on this series, I'm going to stop the series. So if I get into the negative and I got down to like negative 5K and I was like, all right, like we're done.

Like we danced with the devil and we got back. And now we're only down 5K. and I got 150,000 followers from it and 100,000 subscribers on YouTube. So it just, it worked out. I paid 5K for that. If someone wanted to start this challenge now, realistically, an audience of 100,000 followers

that follow you for gambling content, that's probably worth like 30,000 bucks a month. I have no idea, but it's probably worth a lot of money. What would like the fair market value be per follower? So if you're going to pay X amount per follower gained, if someone wanted to start this from zero with unlimited bankroll, what amount do you think? Because you could probably go higher than 10 cents.

You probably could. could because you need to grow quicker too. Like 10 cents probably wouldn't grow you too quickly. Yeah. I mean, there was people at the time that were doing like dollar, five dollars per. But the issue is that every time someone was doing this, it was all online casino stuff. Oh, you can't trust it. Yeah, it's all fake. I mean, I'm not going to say it's all fake. I'm like almost positive. 99% of it is fake. It's just it's fake currency basically. So that was another thing that kind of helped me was that series that I was doing was all in person at a real. real casino. So, like, you could see the $8,000 in cash and then, like, you could see me,

like, the ball spinning and then it landing in red and I bet black and I'm devastated. So it's like, it's a huge difference between the online stuff. But first off, I think if you were to going to, if you were going to start doing the series now, bad idea, it's burnt out and it's not going to work. My, that's just my advice. But, um, I mean, you, in the gambling space, it's so crazy because like so many of these online casinos offer crazy amounts of money and obviously YouTube RPM is really good so like you could make more than 30,000 a month with 100,000 followers so it's kind of hard to judge it really just I don't know maybe if if you're looking at it long term like if you're paying a dollar a follower like it's that's crazy yeah what are some of the

craziest brand deals you've seen for online casinos. I've had a crypto casino reach out to me as of recently and they sent me an email and it was a CEO of the of the company and he said, I want to talk to you. I have an offer you will not say no to. And I replied back and I said, I don't think you have an amount that I would say yes to. And that was it. I would just be curious just to see what it is. I was say yeah, but now you're always going to ruminate. Be like, I wonder how much. I am curious. I honestly, so it's a crypto casino and those guys like pump money.

And like my audience or my fan base is more valuable than someone that has three million followers and they're just a lifestyle, you know, vlog or whatever. Because the conversion is just not going to be as high. So like truly my audience is worth a lot. But I would assume it was probably going to be like, it's probably like 30 million plus a year. 30 million a year? That's my assumption, yeah. But that says credit that you have to play with.

I'm sure it's a credit. A portion of it is credit, but a majority of it would be like paid in crypto every month. Oh, my God. What's the biggest gambling deal you have ever seen or heard that someone got? The biggest one that I've heard of was Drake's for $100 million. So that was the official number? That was the official number. I don't know how true that is.

And then another one is Agent Ross for $50 million. Yeah. I mean, it's... These are crazy numbers because when you think that, like, Spotify would pay $100 million to Joe Rogan for a multi-year exclusive contract. And meanwhile, online casinos are paying $50 million for just a sponsorship. Yeah. I mean, just so you guys are aware, like, we've never seen anything close. Like, in the millions, I've never seen anything in the millions for, like, non-gambling stuff.

And it's not even close. And that's annual contracts. That's not like, you know, like per month where a lot of these are like millions in month. Yeah. It's like the jump is it's, it's, you can't compare it. The gambling space is so crazy because like, like I've gotten these offers from like crypto casinos, social casinos, mystery boxes, whatever it may be. Like, the offers that I've gone from these places are so out of this world that it's just like

so crazy to say no to, but you just know it's not worth it. How do you say no to a deal that's life changing? that it's it's trust me it is hard sometimes like when so if if someone were to offer me 50 million dollars it's like wow 50 million i can retire myself my family my lady's family all my friends that work for me like everyone would be retired but it's also just like like i don't know that's it's a little if it's a little sketchy is it you know it's i don't know it's it's not hard to do it per se, it just, like, you just know the right answer. If you just see yourself as a normal human amongst all of the other humans,

but then you added to the fact that you, like, you were raised on the floor, effectively, like, you had no bed, going from that to all of these crazy life events that have turned you exactly into the person you are today, I'm curious, how does, like, just a normal human grapple with all of these, like, you know, being offered millions and millions and millions of dollars from these online casinos, you juxtapose that with growing up on the floor, you juxtapose that with being like a pro scooter and then like getting fires as a mechanic, like all of these ups and downs in your life. Like what keeps you grounded in it to be a normal person after all of this? I do a lot of reflecting. I reflect almost every day. Like it's so crazy and like every aspect

that I do or every aspect of my life I reflect on. Like I'm boozy with my food now. Like I get organic stuff from whole foods. You know, I try to like take care of myself if I'm eating at home. So when I get like this bowl of cereal and, you know, this box of cereal costs $10 and this milk cost $10 and I'm pouring and I'm like, all right, this is a $2 bowl of cereal. I look back and reflect on, you know, what it was like as a child. Because, you know, when I would have cereal as a kid, it would be Cheerios, not even Honeynut Cheerios, you know, it's just Cheerios. And then like, I would have, have you guys ever had powdered milk? No.

Yeah. I'd have powdered milk. So it would be water and like you don't powder in it and make it like milk. It's like not milk at all. It's just so crazy to me because it's like I can go to the grocery store and I could buy whatever I want, right? I can buy the healthiest, most organic, most expensive food that I want. And, you know, truly it tastes worse than, you know, some of the cheaper stuff that you get at the store. But, you know, it's healthy for you.

So it's, I don't know, it's a lot of the reflecting knowing that you've been at the bottom. you've struggled and then you made it and you just try not to lose your footing, basically. One thing I'm really curious about is your entire story is absolutely crazy. It's nearly unbelievable. There was something that I heard that you didn't have a bed all the way until 19 years old. Yeah, that is correct. When was the first time you slept on a bed? Running a podcast is a lot more business than people think from sponsor contracts, invoices, research docs, show notes, it piles up fast. We started using, Claude to help handle it. That's why we are so excited to partner with Claude. Claude is the AI for

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It probably saves me at minimum, like an hour or two a day. So I highly recommend it. That link is down below. Thank you so much. Let's get back to the episode. When was the first time you slept on a bed? I mean, first time sleeping in a bed, traveling probably when I was doing the scootering stuff was 17. And then, yeah, about 19 and a half is when I got my first actual bed when I moved out of my dad's house.

Wait, so what were you sleeping on? The floor. Why? My dad had no money. He didn't really have much money. And when I'd ask for a bed, this is like, obviously years later on. Like when it first started off as a kid, it wasn't that bad because you're just a kid. And you could sleep anywhere.

But as I like time went on, I was like 16 or 17 asking for a bed. He was like, I mean, you've slept on the floor this long. So what was the sleeping arrangement then? Was it just like blankets with a pillow or like what was that like? I used to have this sleeping bag and then a pillow. That was it. And that was during summer, winter. And it's like the way that the flooring is set up, it's just like carpet.

But it's like 30 year old carpet. So it's like there's nothing there. It's compressed. Compressed, super compressed. The padding is compressed. So I slept in, I used to sleep in like this blues, clues, sleeping bag that I had since I was like seven years old, all the way up to legitimately 19 years old.

And when did you realize that wasn't normal? Oh, God. I feel like I was pretty self-aware when I was young. So, I don't know. I think it was, because I mean, a lot of, all my friends had beds. So I knew it was abnormal when I was a kid, like 10 years old, sleeping on the floor.

I'm just curious. What stopped you from? Just because I feel like I see mattresses occasionally just like thrown around. They give them away on Facebook. Yeah, Facebook Marketplace. Like you could just pick up a free one on Facebook Marketplace. Facebook Marketplace didn't exist back then. Well, I mean, the space that I slept in, it didn't really have much.

I mean, it had enough room for mattress, but it would take up a majority of the room. And there was just like so much stuff in that house because my dad was like a hoarder. So we had like just a bunch of random stuff in there, old computers, VHS tapes. And like you wouldn't have believed the amount of VHS tapes this guy had. I promised you it was the craziest thing ever. Hmm. I came home one day and he bought like, I'm not even exaggerating maybe five or six thousand VHS tapes. And so he would do that, but he would, but no bet.

Yeah. Yeah. It's ridiculous. As I grew older, it got to the point where like, oh, like this guy's like actually a scumb bag. That's, he's just a scum, you know? He's not like, a lot of people are like, oh, your dad would be very proud of you and everything. And I'm just like, when they say that, I'm just like, I literally couldn't care. less about what do you think well i'm very glad now knowing that i mean you walk in here you pull up in

an outy rate and like and you're and you're and you're just like you're i was telling you i have a mazda meada a beater car and you're like i was looking at a super clean one like yeah looked really nice silver hard top everything but like i have enough cars i don't need another one and i'm like really you have enough cars you're like yeah i actually bought another one to me actually i'm like dude like you're just spending money like but you know what like your dad bought vhs is you're buying cars. Yeah, yeah. It's a crazy, like, it's so crazy. Like, I wake up every day and like, I'll say something. And it's just like, God, like, if I just look back three years ago, like me saying this would just be just out of this world. I would have never expected to say something. So how did

you get here? Because what was it like going to school? I did elementary school. I went to this place called C.H. Decker, which was maybe like half mile from my house, half mile to a mile from my house. And I did that up until about fourth grade, end of fourth grade, maybe a month before I was supposed to graduate. And out of nowhere randomly, my dad comes to the school. We get called up to the office. And my dad just tells us to grab our stuff and we walk out of the school and he's like, you're never going to the school ever again. And I was like, okay, I have no idea what's going on. And then he brings us home. And you got to imagine, he does this without telling us anything. We don't know what's going on. He brings us hope and he's like, yeah, I'm going to

homeschool you guys. I was like, oh, okay, cool. Like, that's actually sick. Like, I hated school. Like, I would rather do it at home. And then we started doing the homeschooling stuff. That lasted about a month and a half. And then I just never did school ever since then. And so what did it look like every day you would wake up? Pretty much I would wake up at like 6 a.m., 6 to 7 a.m. and then I would ride my scooter from my house, like two miles up to Desert Bree Skate Park, and I would spend 12 to 15 hours there a day. Wow.

Just practicing scootering. Yeah, just riding. I wasn't even practicing. I was just riding, just having fun. Because I couldn't meet anyone. I didn't, you know, didn't go to school. So, like, the social life is gone. So it's like, this is like my new life is like, this is my new home, basically.

Is that legal to just, like, take your kid out of school? And now they're just like, how, does anyone ever track? these things like who's showing up to school and who's not there's I don't know the answer to that but I know there's no way that it is legal to do that for sure my parents always told me if I missed enough school they would throw me in jail and I think I was young enough to think oh man I'm like I gotta go to school yeah well I think there's a thing where like you can do the homeschool and like you don't I think you're supposed to keep track of it and submit it to like the county but obviously there's no shot he did that no yeah not at

all. And so, yeah, we never had anyone show up, so I don't know. And this is fascinating because you just apparently got extremely good at scootering to the point where you went pro at scootering then. I'm curious, how did that shift your finances? Not much. I mean, it was, it was good for me as a teenager, because I went pro when I was 16. Um, and like, I would survive at the skate park like with no money. I didn't have money to take the bus. I didn't have money to get food. So I'd like, I don't know, people would buy me a sandwich at McDonald's. I probably consume more McDonald's than anyone on this planet. But, uh, like when I hit 16 and I got, I turned professional, I started getting a paycheck, which is really crazy at 16, unless you're working like a part-time job or

whatever. Um, I was making $750.00. But like, you got to think, like, someone that comes from literally nothing to $750 as a 16 year old. It's like, you like almost feel like you're on top of the world. That's per month? Per month. Yeah. Yeah. And then, you know, your travels paid for, competition entry fees are paid for, your scooters are free. So it was, like, financially, I guess it was, like, a huge change. I was able to, like, buy clothes and, you know, make sure I was able to eat and drink when I'm at the skate park all day long. And, you know, I could take the bus to the skate park. And, you know, I'm making $750 a month. I start looking at cars. I'm 16 years old. Like, you can't afford a thing. I used to do the same thing as like, if I took all the money that I have and everything that I make, what could I afford? Yeah, yeah.

I was looking at like so stupid. I'm looking like Audi A4s and like $4,000 and I'm like, oh, I could get this in like eight months. And I'm just like, you're never going to get that car. You can't even afford the insurance. And then from there, you were pro at scootering for a while and then you kind of went into being a mechanic. And usually this is not like a biographical podcast. Yeah, yeah. story is just that fascinating where I'm like very curious because you kind of alluded to a few

things like mechanic and having to hop around to a few different shops because I genuinely have no idea why you got fired. I couldn't figure it out online and I'm dying to know. I got fired twice actually. So the whole shift from the scootering to the mechanic world basically came as I was with an ex and she wanted to live in Vegas but you know riding a scooter and I wasn't making enough money to basically afford life unless I was a bum, basically. So I was like, all right, I have to get into like getting my first job. Well, technically not my first job, but I had to get into getting a job to afford, you know, an adult life. So I couldn't afford school.

I knew I couldn't go to school because I don't have a diploma. I don't have a GED. I don't have an elementary diploma even. So my thought process was, I, okay, I'm just going to get real world experience at a lube shop, you know, very basic, no experience needed, and you could do oil changes and stuff like that, change fluids on cars. So I started there. It was called Valvlin. I did that for about two years. And I got, you know, hands-on experience, basically better than trade school,

learned about cars during my off time, and then I applied as an apprentice at a dealership here in Vegas, and I ended up getting hired, which was awesome. So I got pushed under, I was under someone's wing, basically, at this dealership. And they're teaching me about the cars and how to replace all these parts. And, you know, the mechanic industry is a little, I think it's shady, personally. Why? You don't get paid hourly. You get paid a flat rate system.

So if you come in with your BMW and your water pump is leaking and your car is under warranty, in, you know, the, you're not going to pay a dime. you bring the car in, we do the diagnostic, we replace the part, BMW has a book that says how much you'll get paid for replacing this part. And let's just say it'll be two hours. You'll get two hours to replace this part. If it takes you 10 hours, you only get two hours. If it takes you 30 minutes, you get two hours.

So in some sense, it works, some sense it doesn't. But almost every single time when a car is under warranty and they say it's going to take you two hours, it'll take you three hours or four hours. Like, it's so hard to beat it unless you do all these crazy, like, shortcuts and, you know, find different things to sprucing up your story and make more money. What about upcharging, like, the classic middle-aged woman who goes to the mechanic to get something simple fix? She ends up getting sold on a million other things and upcharged, like crazy.

Is this true? I'm sure it's true in some sense. But typically when you bring your car into a dealership, you know, you get an inspection. and nowadays people are getting videos from their mechanic that are showcasing all the things that are wrong with their car. And most of the times, like, a lot of the things you don't really have to replace. Like, you can live your life and it'll be fine. But we are supposed to protect ourselves from, you know, our boss.

Like, if you were to take your car and I told you, oh, you need to replace this part, but you were like, oh, I just took this into another shop and they didn't say anything about it, then if that lady ends up complaining to the first shop, that technician is the one that bites a bullet. You know, so you have to, like, basically look at everything, even if it's, like, on the way out or you don't need to replace it, it's not like that detrimental, but it's torn a little bit.

And you don't mention it, then that's on you. And you take the liability. So the air filters, if you go in to get an oil change and they say you need a new air filter, is that true? Oh, for the most part, yeah. I mean, they shouldn't lie about an air filter. It's only like $20. I feel like if they charge you so much money.

Yeah. time. Every time I go in, I could drive in with a Tesla to get an oil change and they'd be like, yeah, your oil looks fine, but you need to do like air filter. I'm like, oh my gosh. Yeah, yeah. I swear. You were going to die if you don't replace the airfields immediately. And I always go, do I need it? And they go, well, you know, it's like, oh, how much is it? $300. Yeah, a lot of the times the air filters, they do upcharge a buttload on them, which doesn't really make sense. Yeah, you just replace the filter. It's really not that hard. Sometimes there's a couple screws and bolts. I mean, there are some cars that are, like, it is a pain to replace.

But for the most part, it's a couple screws and you just swap it out. Final car question, because you're not technically a car YouTuber, but I'm just so curious. What is the best car to work on and the worst car to work on? Oh, God. Like, I know Volvo's are very compact. Like, they suck to work on. Something that's easy, you know. I think the best car to work on would be, like, a Toyota or a Honda, because they're very easy, easy to do.

There's a lot of space in there, typically. and to replace the thing, like if you need to replace the motor, it's way faster than anything else. I haven't worked on a ton of different brands. I've done like BMW and Jaguar and a couple like off-brand stuff here. The range rovers and the Jaguars are hands down, what I've heard, the worst cars to work on, hands down. Interesting.

First off, they're the most unreliable, at least they were. I know nowadays they actually are like top 10, I think, and most reliable, which is crazy. and then there's no space to work on them. And to replace one thing, you literally have to replace, you have to remove the engine. It's just so stupid.

So explain how did you get fired twice as a mechanic? Okay, so this is the whole scenario where I was telling you about how warranty doesn't pay much. So you'd come up with, you know, you'd make up these stories and, you know, let's say someone's massaging seat wasn't working. And then you find that a few, is blown and you know you get paid nothing you'll you'll make literally nothing right and it takes

you 30 minutes maybe with some paperwork a little extra whatever um you know instead of saying oh just the fuse blown well all right the wiring harness was chafing and i had to trace out of do you know how to check continuity i've traced the the break in the wire harness here i removed the seat i repaired the wire harness, and then you make two and a half hours or whatever you may make, which is 100%. It's called warranty fraud is what it is. You're basically defrauding the warranty system and saying you're doing this stuff. So the customer doesn't pay. No, no, no, no.

Exactly, exactly. But you did never, I would never do it. You did nearly exactly what I just asked if people do. Yes. Well, no, no, not to a customer, though. There's no way. I would never, ever do that to a customer. Because like, the warranty company.

The warranty. Right. Yeah. Because you got to imagine, like, every single day you go to the shop and you're just getting shafted, shafted, shafted, shafted on every single job that they do. You're just going to even it out a little bit. Yeah, you just, you know, tilt the odds to your fame. So basically all it was was a fuse, and you just replaced the fuse, but you said you did all of this other stuff. That's not what I did, but yeah, it's, it's kind of like, it's allegedly. Yeah, yeah. It's basically like

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And then he was just disappointed. So he had to let me go. And then the next place, same thing? Um, yes. I said, well, like, I was, there was this thing I was chasing this engine was misfiring, basically. And like, they had me take the timing chains off, retime the whole thing, replace the engine harness, do all this stuff. And like, realistically, I was probably like 60 hours into this car and I was probably making 28 hours or something. So I said that I changed one of the camshafts or one of the solenoids, the VCT solenoids, and I did not.

And you got caught. Yeah, yeah. There was a foreman that knew that I didn't do it. Let's just say you have a hypothetical situation where you take an exact copy of this world, exact copy of you. How many times did this exact copy of you get away with this compared to the two times you didn't? Oh, God. I mean, I'm very honest. It's probably over 200.

That probably more. So it's worth it. Oh, yeah, no, that was easy. Yeah, it was easy. I would never do it to, like, a paying customer because, like, I just, like, I mean, I have morals, of course, but, like, I would never do it to someone that's actually using their hard-earned money to, like, pay for that. But for a warranty company that just shafts you every single day, like, you have to,

you have to make it work. It's just, there's, you have to, like, even the playing field, but level of playing field. I hate, I hate warranty companies. I've had two experiences. One was with my wife's Audi. took it in for warranty work, and it was very clearly a warranty problem. They came back with the repair bill that was worth more than the car costs, which is crazy. And then guess what?

They offered to buy it back. Of course they did. Apply it to a new car. Got to love the dealerships, man. The other rip-off is the home warranty scams, where they say, oh, for $1,000, we'll cover your entire house. Good luck ever getting something fixed. I had a dishwasher immediately broke. Well, guess what?

I pay a $75 call fee. They don't tell you. That's not part of the warranty. $75. Then their warranty company comes in, which takes days to come in, by the way. And then they say, oh, it's actually not this warranty part. It's something else, and that's normal wear and tear.

And that's going to be triple the cost of, again, what it would cost new. Yeah. The rip off. I've never seen a home warranty actually fix anything, ever. In my entire 15 plus years in real estate, not once have I seen a home warranty company, like actually replace an AC or refrigerator, any appliance. Never.

It's actually so funny because I just bought a home warranty. Take the cash. Always take the guess because I promise you, just as an experiment, try calling them out. Yeah. Just for fun and just see how much money they quote you for the scene. It's awful. It's the exact same thing in the auto industry. It's just, it's all a sham. I mean, there are some extended warranties like in the auto industry that are actually really good. Like, The CarMax is like really, really good. Yeah. But everything else is just like, it's all a sham.

It's, you got to think. That's how they make their money. So what's the craziest thing you've done for money? I've done some crazy things. I ate a hissing cockroach. I tried to eat a hiss and cockroach. I should say that. I did not eat it.

Was it alive? It was alive. How do you get one to begin with? My buddy got it for me. I don't know. Where? You got it at like a reptile store? Okay.

Because they feed it. Or like people had those as pets. They do. which is weird. A cockroach is a pet. Yeah, this is like, I actually did this because I started bluff. I had just started bluff.

That was my second video. I was trying to like do things that were like different in the gambling space. And then I was eating bugs to like introduce bluff. And it was just not the right idea. So on the topic of ups and downs, we spoke to Togi. And I asked Togi about dopamine. Because gambling is one of those things that spikes your dopamine,

which is effectively like your excitement. your motivation to do something, and then it completely flattens it, and then spikes it and flattens it. Do you think that you've experienced some form of, like, extreme dopamine dosing? Do you think you need a detox? Like, how has this affected you in, like, other areas of life?

Are you just, like, bored by most things? I think, no, I think you're more right than wrong, for sure. I don't know how you do, like, a dopamine detox, but, I mean, I could definitely see how that would affect people. And I'm sure it's affected me. Like, I'm almost positive. Just saying, like, the whole car thing. Like, I just don't feel like, like, when I would get a new car, when I was, you know, years ago before Bluff, I would get a new car and I was, like, excited and I just wanted to drive.

And, like, that's all I wanted to do. And now, like, I get a new car and it's, like, I'll drive it and I'm, like, enjoying it and having fun. But I just don't feel like that, like, accomplishment, you know? It's weird. It could be compartmentalizing your life. So, like, obviously you need to be gambling and stuff for, like, your source of income and work. But then outside of that, maybe you try for, like, a month or two to drive a beater car, you know, that just has, like, functioning AC. And then you put your phone in black and white.

And you, like, basically, like, make your life a little bit more boring outside of the compartmentalized, like, area of work. But this is just me, like, coming up with. Yeah. No, I mean, I think that's a really good idea. It's kind of, like, bringing yourself back down to, like, you know, reality instead of just like this whole crazy social. media lifestyle. I think I might actually do something like that. So in terms of gambling, what's the most you've won and lost? The most I've won in the day was 100,000 by myself. I won 100,000. Actually, it was 98,500.

And the most I lost was, how much was the most I lost? Maybe 80. I think. Did I lose more than 80? I think it was about 80,000. What felt more intense? Making 100,000 or losing 80? Making. It was that feeling of making 80,000 or 100,000 was, like, I can't even compare it to anything. It was so crazy. How that happened?

I lost, so I do that series where I gamble, like, one video's revenue worth, and I call it gambling my paycheck. and if I don't double it, I let the audience choose a punishment in the comment section. So whoever has the most likes, I fail to double it. And then the highest like comment was take my win loss statement from El Cortez last year, whatever I was down, I had to win it back with that amount. So I think I had lost 144,000 in the last year. So I took 144,000 to the casino and had to go to a different casino because the limits were too low at El Cortez. And I went out with, I only used like 40,000, maybe 50,000.

And I won 98,000 off of that. I was playing craps. So I went on like a really good roll at the craps table. And then I played like a one Baccarat hand and had like a crazy huge win where I bet like 25,000 and 150. And I was like, yeah, screw it. I'm done. Like I was just like, I'm not even going to keep chasing it. because like if I just lose this 100,000,

like I'm just going to be devastated and like, yeah, my dopamine is going to be at the complete pit. So it's like, I'm just going to take the 100,000. I'm just going to walk away. I actually like that because I watched that video and I was rooting for you. And that was one of the few times I've seen a creator say, hey, look, if this is the punishment, I'm going to do it.

And you like half did it. Like you gambled a lot. You didn't gamble the max amount. You didn't double it, which you were supposed to do by the top comment. But you're just like, hey, look, like, and it was a very humanizing moment. Because I'm like, dude, I see this guy for a guy who's stoked he made all this money.

I get it. Yeah. But like, I get it. And so I don't blame him for wanting to call it quits. Like, did you experience any hate for going back on your word for that? I don't think I experienced anything. Most of the time,

luckily my audience is like so heartwarming and like loyal and supportive that I'll like, if I would have continued and like, let's say I lost that 98,000 and then lost 144,000 that I had started with, they would have said, you were so dumb. Like, why didn't you just take it? when you were at 98,000, like, you don't have to go all the way. Like, everyone is like super supportive of me, which is super cool to see. And I could like truly feel the love through the comment section. But yeah, everyone, like, when I cashed out the 98,000, everyone was like, good idea. Like, I'm so glad you took that and you didn't continue going. Like, we don't care about

the punishment. Like, you know, we just want you to win. That's all they care about. Literally every video, it's like, we just want you to win. We hate seeing you lose. So I knew when I was stopping halfway that I didn't complete the punishment, but I was just like, I just, I just, I already know like the audience is going to be okay with it because first off we won 100,000 and like, you know, we didn't push the limits too far. What's the biggest win you've ever seen in person? I walked past someone in a casino and they hit a grand

and it was like 280,000. So that was the most I've seen. And I can only imagine the dopamine they got from that. So when you go to a casino, is there any trick to figure out which machines pay out the most? There's this world of AP slot players, which, like, I think in long term isn't really going to last that long. And, like, there's certain machines that have, like, a must hit by and whatnot. I guess you can get lucky with that.

But you also will are, you are gambling, you know, you're going to go against the odds. So, sure, there's maybe a certain amount of time that that'll work. But, no, there's no trick to it. It's all computer algorithms and getting lucky. and showing them at the right time and hitting their button at the right second. It's all randomized. So is there any way to beat the casino? This episode is brought to you by Activia.

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And if, well, technically you can't do it with poker, but if you're counting cards with blackjack, which is why most casinos ban counting cards and kick you out. But you could get a slight edge playing blackjack if you're counting cards and you could beat the casino long term. but it's you're you're struggling with being able to stay in the casino playing. Yeah. Have you ever seen someone get kicked out for counting?

Oh, God, yeah, every day. Really? Yeah, yeah, every day. Counting is like a huge community. What's the tell? How do they get caught? Bet variants. So if they're playing blackjack and, you know, they have $3,000 in blacks and $500

in greens and they're betting $25 hands, the counts low. And then the counts high, they do $1,000. and then they win, and then they go back down to 25. You know, it's, they change their bet sizing depending on the count. So if the count's high, you know, positive, that means there's a lot of face cards that are still in the deck, so they start betting high. Obviously, you're still, you know.

Do you know how to count cards? I do not, no. Truly, I do not. I barely not to count. Is there any way that someone would be able to get away with counting cards? Yes. There are people that do. but because of the way it works and how much you have to change your bet sizing with the variance,

it's hard to stay undercover. But there are some casinos that don't mind it. Like in California, I believe. Actually, I think they just got rid of blackjack and card rooms. But typically in a card room, there's the casino where they're the dealer and then there's a third party that's a banker. And that's how they got around like the casino law. So the casino doesn't care if you count cards because they're just making a commercial. mission or they're splitting percentages or whatever, just a banker would have an issue, but they

can't do anything about it. Got it. So is it ever profitable to go to the casino for the average person? No, God, no. No, you'll lose. There's no profitable strategy ever. No, no. Unless you somehow win one time you play and then walk away forever.

What do you think about Mickey Mays who says that he is a strategy for Baccarat? Yeah, doesn't exist. It's funny. I actually met him right before he started all of his social stuff, right before he started it. Where'd you meet him? At, uh, right across the street, actually, right down the street from here. Which is funny enough, out of park. At a park?

Yeah, so I was, uh, it was during COVID. Yeah. And, uh, all of our, all of us, we were riding scooters and bikes and stuff and we'd go to, like, you know, a park if there was like a street spot there, basically, that we'd all ride, like a stair set with a rail and everything. And, yeah, out of nowhere this guy shows up and, you know, he's all tatted up. And I don't have any issues. with Mickey at all. He shows up and someone was telling me he's like a huge high limit gambler.

I was like, oh, that's cool. He did not have social media at all at this time. And yeah, within like a month, he had started up his Instagram and everyone's sharing him and he's doing all these videos talking about, you know, high limit Bachrod. He won 11 million. Now, I have someone, I do know my friend has actually worked on Mickey's team. And a lot of those stories are true. Like he did win $11 million and he did do this and he did do this. And he did do that. that, but you know, you don't get banned from casinos for winning. Nobody's going to ban you for winning, unless you're counting cards, right? Nobody's going to ban you from winning. They're going to ban you because you're a jerk. Your, you know, your manners are whatever. You're, you're a dick.

That's what I'm going to say. If you treat the staff like dick or if you treat their property like trash, they're going to kick you out and they're going to ban you. You're not going to get banned for winning. They want you to come back in because they have the edge long term. They want their money back. So, yeah, that's the only way you get banned from properties. And then, you know, the Bacraat strategy just doesn't exist. If you know, do you guys, do you guys know how Bacchrat works? Yes. There's no strategy.

You can't make a strategy. There's, it's impossible. You can't tell what card is going to come next. Could you try counting cards in Bacra or no? It's too many. You technically, I guess you could, but there's so many decks. There's eight decks and I guess there's like some sort of math that you could do. but you also, most of the times you don't know, they do a burn card

and then they burn so many cards that you can't see. Yeah, it's, I'm sure maybe, but it's not realistic, I think. So what's the most you've ever seen someone lose? I just watched this guy lose $700,000 the other day. What happened? Some multi-gagillionaire from Texas playing slots. Slots? Fast spins.

Five thousand. him five thousand dollars a spin like this wouldn't even wouldn't wouldn't wouldn't wouldn't hit it and then watch it he would fast spin like this it was crazy how do you know that he was like this wealthy guy from texas oh because he has like an instagram and he like talks about it and stuff see that is a person that has no dopamine yeah yeah like oh my god if something happens like let's just say his house floods then he's just like oh yeah whatever it's just four spins on you know this slot machine it doesn't matter if something incredible happens to him it's like well how can he compare that. Like, he's like, I got an A on my report. And he's like, yeah, well, I just made

$3 million to two spend. It's like, it's just no coming back from that. Crazy. Yeah. And like, I've heard a story of like this guy lost three million and 30 minutes playing slots. So how would you then recommend someone, let's say, gamble responsibly? Or is there no gambling? Oh, no, no, no. I think, I mean, you could definitely, I think gambling is a good, like, hobby. Not hobby. It's a good outing, right? Like, if you want to go out and, gamble with your friends or whatever. There's definitely responsible ways to do it. The way I always say, and I say this in my videos, I say it on my stories everywhere because I want people to do it responsibly. Treat it as like entertainment. If you're going to go watch a movie and you know the ticket cost is

$25 and you know you're going to buy popcorn and a drink that's $25 and you know maybe you're going to buy a slushy that's $10. So you're going to spend $60 at the movie theater. Right? You're not going to go over budget. Go to the casino. All right. Like I'm going to take this $100 bill. or I'm going to take this $50 bill and I'm going to do 20 cents spins, whatever. I'm not going to bring my credit card in. I'm not going to bring my debit card in. I'm not going to bring any extra cash in.

I'm going to go in there and I'm going to play for 30 minutes. I'm going to have fun for 30 minutes. If I win anything, good. That's awesome. If I lose, I had fun. I got to play slots for 30 minutes or I got to play black check for 30 minutes. How many people could do that effectively, though?

Because I do see a lot of people who go in with the mindset of, hey, I brought $100 for entertainment. They lose it. And then they say, let me just bet another 100 to win it back. And they lose that and be like, oh, shit, I really needed that extra 100. So now I'm going to do another 100 to try to win back that 100. And then maybe they win it and maybe they don't. And they're like, oh, now I'm down three.

Let me do a little more. And then all of a sudden, you know, they're just like betting everything. Yeah, I'm just in this whole. Honestly, I preach it because I know the vast majority of people can't do that. I know it. And like even for myself, There's times where I've caught myself where I lose control. But everyone is basically, you know, obviously in control of their own lives.

Like personally for me, I grew up at a skate park and you can only imagine the type of things that I've gone on at the skate park. I've never once smoked weed. I've never once smoked a cigarette. I've never, you know, I didn't drink until I was 18 and I took a sip of beer and I hated it. So, you know, growing up at a skate park, never smoking weed, like the self-control and the pure pressure that you have to battle basically is is pretty immense. So it's it's all in the self-control area. But obviously in a casino, the flashing lights and you know, everyone winning money and you see

dollar signs everywhere and these big grand jackpots that are saying 250,000, it's it's really hard to go in there and say, all right, I'm only going to do $50. That's why I suggest like, you know, leave your wallet at home or in the car and give yourself, maybe set at a, timer, you know, you're in there for 50, 30 minutes or an hour, depending on your budget, whatever it may be. Obviously, you could just lose everything in 10 minutes, but it's, it's definitely, I don't even know what to compare it to. It's like a kid at an arcade, you know? How do you make sure you don't get addicted or that other people don't get addicted to it? You got to look at the losers more than the winners. That's how you determine gambling, right?

I've lost eight times out of the last 10. Why the hell do I want to keep doing this every single day and taking my paycheck and trying to win money? It's just not going to work in the long run. So you got to look. This is like the only time where I say, you got to look at the negatives more than the positives so you don't fall into that pit.

But why do you think so many people fall into that gambling addiction? What do you think about that? It's that, like I said, it's the flashing lights, the numbers, the bonuses, the sound effects, the graphics on these machines. You got to think all these companies that make the slots, right? And this is targeted at slots and not table games because they can only do so much on the table. All these companies that made these slots, they know how the human mind works, how the brain works, what triggers, what colors, just like McDonald's, right?

Like, they use red and yellow because it makes you feel a type of way. These slot manufacturers know exactly what colors use, what graphics and what animations to do to a, a, you to come try this new machine or try this slot. And, you know, obviously right at the top of it, it says grand jackpot, $250,000. Like, I could see why people get into it, but it's also just a losing game. Are you ever worried about gambling too much? When I first started Bluff, I definitely was gambling way too much. Off camera, on camera, on camera, obviously it was good because I was making content. But I was gambling a lot off. camera like because I was new to it you know like I wasn't gambling so much and I was just learning

all these new games so I was gambling a lot off camera and I was losing a lot off camera but now as I've progressed and it's been over a little over two years now since I've started um you know I film the videos I get my dopamine filming the videos and then you know maybe sometimes you know once a month or two times a month I'll go and have fun with friends at the casino and you know gamble a couple thousand nothing compared to like what I'm doing in my videos just because I know like all right this is for fun like I'm not going to make any money off of this like I don't want to lose five thousand dollars and this could have been a video and I could have recouped some money from YouTube revenue and stuff like that yeah so it's more so nowadays it's like all right I get my entertainment my fix while I'm filming at the same time if that makes sense are you that sounds like an addict though I get my fix yeah I know I know it's a never word it's how I get it's how I get it Yeah, yeah. I mean, come on, man. That's why I do it. Are you ever worried about glamorizing gambling to this degree?

There are a lot of people that do say, like, oh, like, you're promoting gambling and all this stuff. I mean, I guess there is, like, an issue of that 100%, but I'm not trying to glamorize, like, degenerate gambling. And, like, I guess it kind of looks like I am because I'm, like, gambling my paycheck and stuff. But like I try to be very, very, uh, uh, stern in my videos where I say like, I can afford to do this. Like, this is entertainment. Do not do what I do. Just sit there and watch me gamble. You guys do not have to gamble, all this other stuff.

Um, so I really do try to promote responsible gambling because you, you got to treat it like a kid at an arcade, right? You know, you give your kid 20 bucks like, oh, you use your 20 bucks like you're done. Sorry, buddy, you know. Um, another thing is that like, like, I'm from Vegas, so it's so normal to me. And like, everyone comes to Vegas to gamble. So, like, gambling is not, like, a new thing. Gambling's been around for years, years and years and years,

and it's going to stay around for years and years and years. So, like, I don't think I'm glamorizing it, per se. I am promoting it for sure. I'm not going to knock that because, you know, it's me making YouTube videos gambling. But I want to say I'm more so glamorizing, like, responsible gambling. How does that differ from sports betting? I mean, sports betting is definitely gambling.

There's no difference at all. I mean, you're betting on other people, which I don't sports bet because I don't want to put my money on other people, if that makes sense, you know? Like, you don't know. If people could rig things and it's, you know, I'd rather dump my money and light it on fire. Sometimes it feels like it is rigged. Oh, yeah, no, there's always right on the line.

Yeah, they threw that. That was terrible. It kicked it off into nowhere. I mean, you would never know. But there are people that have gotten caught, you know, that are professional athletes and they got paid, you know, a chunk of change, which isn't even anything worth what they're getting paid to throw a game. Have you ever seen gambling truly ruined someone's life? Oh, yeah, my dad. Yeah, my dad's life was ruined.

He, uh, all this came to light after he passed away. So back in like 88 or 87, I used to have the newspaper article, but he had hit like a $120,000. keynote jackpot. And, you know, he would always tell me these stories, tell me and my sister these stories about him gambling. And he, oh, like, I know how to beat this and all, you know, a real addiction, you know, a real thing that someone would say. And he won $120,000 jackpot on keynote.

He ended up buying our house with it. And he bought, like, a car and whatnot. And, you know, as we're growing up, for some reason, the house isn't paid off. and, you know, he's struggling to pay the mortgage and whatnot, because he was on disability from the VA. So he's making like $30,000 a month. Or I'm sorry, a year. If he's making $30,000 a month, I'm sleeping on the floor. We're fighting.

So he's making $30,000 a year, which, like, realistically isn't much money. So when he passes away, we, you know, start digging into his finances and digging into the house and the mortgage loan and everything. and, you know, he owes, the house was $80,000 when he bought it. And he somehow owes $70,000. So we're like, oh, what the hell's going on? Like, he must have taken a HELOC out. You know, he's mentioned he's taking out like a second mortgage or whatever when he was with my mom, like traveling to the Philippines and stuff like that and giving money

to, like, her family. So we knew he took a second mortgage out. But when we really dug into it, he had taken, like, I don't know how many loans against his house. he owed, I think it was like $67,000 on the mortgage. And then there was like another hidden he lock for $53,000. And I think there was one more for like 30 something thousand. And I'm like, what the hell is going on? This $80,000 house, he had $200,000 against it. It was, and we came to the conclusion. We found out when he took those loans. And it was all during the time he was gambling.

So I think he like, that dopamine got him when he got the 120K jackpot. and then he just like continued on and just kept trying to chase it. How do you make sure that doesn't happen to you? Um, it's, it goes back to the looking at the negatives, right? This is the only aspect or this is the only niche or hobby, whatever, that you really have to look at the negatives. And that's what it deters you. You know, I, I go into the casino and like, let's say I film like an extravagant video where I gamble 20,000 and I lose a 20,000. And even though it's for a video and I like, I know I'm probably going to lose and I end up losing. I'm like disgusted with myself.

And I remember how I feel. And I'm just like, yeah, like I don't ever want to feel this ever again. Like, why the hell am I going to go do this? But like, obviously I have to do it for a video, which I don't mind. But, you know, on my own personal time, like, I'm just like, yeah, I do not want to feel like that. I would feel even worse if I did that, not filming it. What do you think is your lifetime profit and loss? Oh, my God.

It's more to guess. I have to be down like, God, I don't even know. I'd have to be down at least, and it's only been two years. I'd probably say somewhere over $750,000. That much. I think so.

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Has to be millions. Has to be. but I take it you're up obviously significantly from all the revenue and everything that you bring in. So $750 is just the cost of doing business. Of course. And that's what I look at it as, you know, cost of doing business. If I lose $20,000, it's like, all right, well, that sucks. And then the next day I win $20,000.

It's like, oh, cool, broke even made two videos for free. Yeah. And then you make the ad revenue and merch sales and whatnot. In fairness, I see a lot of YouTube channels where they would spend that in a year in production. Yeah. Warehouse expense, travel, set design. but for you it's the casino

What sort of benefits do you get from gambling and losing $750,000? Free rooms, free food. I don't know the last time I paid for a dinner at a hotel or a casino. Legitimately. You know, and they'll offer you free tickets

to concerts and shows and, you know, if you gamble enough, like you'll fly private and I've never done that. Well, I've flown private on someone else's tab. Yeah. But, um, what's the craziest comp you've gotten?

I've gotten, so I went to Atlantis, uh, back in January for like a trip with my girlfriend and then one of my best friends and his girlfriend, uh, they comped us like a double sweet and all the food and all the drinks and everything that we ever wanted. It was like $38,000 worth of comps. Crazy. And I lost 35,000 on that trip. There you go. They got their monies worth out of me.

So when we were talking to Vegas, Matt, he was saying that certain slot machines you can play profitably. When you look at the comps, they give back. So if you lose 1,000, it is possible to make back $1,000 in casino free food, drinks, experiences. Yeah. How do you do that? I mean, I guess there is a way to do that if you look at it as profit.

But I mean, like, for me, it's like, okay, you could spend $1,000 on the food, or you could spend $1,000 and hope you get that food for free. It's, you know, it's like a weird gray area on that. But, you know, if you look at it as, okay, I'm going to spend $1,000 on the slot machine, you know, maybe you take advantage of the days where they offer like 10 times points and stuff like that. And maybe you get lucky with a couple bonuses. So you actually play for like two hours on $1,000. your Theo, which is where they base your comps, your theoretical loss, is going to be higher if you get on a lucky streak. So that's where those comps would come in. But still, like, if you're going to do that just to get comps, you might as well just buy it, you know?

Yeah. But if you're trying to get entertainment and then a comp after, I guess it makes sense. Yeah, so I'll tell you my casino hack is I got to this spot and they have incredible drinks. incredible. I'm talking the drinks are like $30 each. But if you sit down at one of the tables, immediately someone walks over to you and says, hey, do you want a drink? And I know those are $30 drinks. And so I always play Blackjack or Baccaraw, knowing that the house edge on that is like, you know, half a percent, give or take. And so I'm like, if I bet $50 a hand, I walk in with like $200 bucks and I'm betting $50 a hand, I'm like each one of those hands is only

$0.25. So I'm paying, you know, over four hands. really when you average it out long term, I'm really only betting $2. I'm losing $2, let's just say, but I get a $30 drink. And so I'm like, I gladly spend $2 for the $30 drink. And then I get the $30 drink for $2.

And overall, I have to say, because I've been keeping track, I am up. I've made money so far with those drinks. You're one of the lucky, profitable gamblers. My entire gambling strategy is really simple. The most I will ever bet, ever is $300, ever. usually I stick with 200.

If I lose the 200, I walk away no matter what. And I also always walk away if I double. So if the 200 turn to 400, I'm done. As soon as I hit that, I walk away. And I stick with that. Have you ever tripled though? No, no, no, no, no. Every time I hit, every single time I double, I'm like, I'm done.

Yeah, yeah. No, that's good. And then what I do sometimes if I bet 200, but I'm up 100, then I put the original 200 aside back in my pocket. and then I play with the 100. And then if I lose the 100, then I'm like, all right, well, now I'm either. Yeah.

That's always my strategy. I mean, that's a good way to look at it. There's another way that I look at things, and this is in every aspect of my life, especially when I used to work like a normal job, right? And I tell this to people when there's like, they'll come up to me and they say, hey, I'm up $200, like, what should I do?

And I'll say, how long does it take you to make that $200? You know, what do you get paid an hour? Do you make $20 an hour? That's going to take you 10 hours of work. Are you willing to lose that 200 that you just made in 30 seconds to possibly make another 200 or just lose that instantly? And then you have to go to work for 10 hours to make that back. So I look at like time, you know, the time it takes to make that money. Maybe that's another way that people can use to, you know, maybe deter.

Now, let's just say hypothetically speaking, Graham, is worth $1,000 an hour. Now, how do you feel when he says that he sits down at a blackjack table to try to finagle a drink and get the cost down on the drink maybe to like $10 per drink instead of $30 a drink?

And he's doing all this mental gymnastics. What do you think of when you hear about that? If his time is worth $1,000. Yeah, I mean, I'm not the person to knock anyone for trying to save money. I think if, like, if, you know, there's times where I go to, you know, Whole Foods And it's truly, it's not worth it for me to pull out my phone, pull out the Amazon app and get the QR code and scan it to get $2 off.

But I do it because I save $2. So I don't, just because you're worth this much an hour, I don't think, you know, trying to save money is a bad idea. I think you should save money no matter what. Why let this business make an extra $2 off of you? I would say you should save money matter some, you know, like I wouldn't say no matter what. Yeah, yeah. Because it takes you an hour. For me, dude, it's, I am addicted to the thrill of getting a deal.

And it's something about that. I actually agree with you. Yeah. Yeah. That feeling, man, I, that I found never goes away. When I buy something and I got a deal on it, every single time I see it, I think, oh, man, I got a deal on that. And I get the same feeling.

But years later, like that oyster quartz, I keep looking at every day. I'm like, I got a great deal on that. But that makes me happy. So I agree with you, but just because it's a deal doesn't make it a good one is what I try to like think of. Oh, yeah. And so like if I go to the grocery store and the eggs that I would normally buy are $2 with a coupon, I'm stoked when I do that. And I will still do it to save a dollar or two, right? But if there's something that like I wasn't going to buy anyways or like a drink that says that it's a hundred, let's just call it a hundred dollar drink.

And they give it to me for $30. It's like, would I have paid $30 for this drink knowing this drink cost $30? Yeah. Or what if I knew it cost $10, would I have paid $30 for this to have this drink? That's where I try to like, like, what is the value to me? Not what do they claim the value is. Yeah, I agree with that. I don't struggle, but I argue with that with my lady all the time.

She's like, oh, I bought this. They were on sale. And I was like on Amazon. I don't know if you guys want me to name drops up. Yeah, sure. You know, online. That actually competes with our other spots. Oh, okay, okay.

I'll stop saying. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Oh, yeah. You know, online, oh, this one is actually 30% off today. And, you know, you look a week later or a month later and it's still 30%. That's all the Black Friday sales are. Yeah, it's exactly.

Yeah, they increase the price. Yeah. Yeah, that's actually a common thing that I've seen online. They actually increased it. And it was more than it was before Black Friday. Yep. Okay, so I have to ask you this question because I asked Matt this and it was a very funny response. Are you addicted to gambling?

Probably, yeah. Probably. How do you know? Like, I can't, it's, and, you know, I tell my girl that I'm not addicted to gambling. Like, I swear on my life that I'm not addicted to gambling. But, like, I walk through a casino and I do it every day. I gamble every single day. I will walk through a casino to go get dinner, right, with my lady.

I cannot walk past that table and not put $100 on it. Have you tried? Yeah. What happens? I just like want to go do it very bad And then I'll go do it after dinner If I don't do it before Why can't you challenge yourself

For one time, go out to dinner at a casino And do not gamble Just to see if you'd be able to do it Because I don't want it No, I think it's, I don't know If it's one time You lose nothing by it's one time It's not even like the money, right?

Like I'll bet a $100 hand And like if I lose It's like oh well But if I win, it's like, yeah, like that was worth it. You know, that's why like, yeah, I'm definitely addicted. I have to be. There's no way I'm not addicted to gambling. At least I can admit it.

But you don't have a desire to challenge yourself to see if you could walk through a casino without gambling. I'll try it next time for you and I'll let you know. What if we have a side bet going on, whether or not you could do it? And if you don't. That's gambling. But it's not. So you're making me gamble. What is that?

But we could bet on whether or not it's like a derivative. I bet you that I can stop gambling. Would you quit gambling for $10 million? Yeah. Easily. I would probably take $10 million pretty fast. I mean, you got to think $10 million. You retire.

You don't have to do anything. What about $5 million? $5 million in your pocket right now. No tax. Well, I'd have to stop bluff, obviously. Yes. I probably wouldn't because, like, technically in the long term of things, I would be able to make more. But 10 million is like a sweet number where it's like very safe.

Like, long term, I can make more than 10 million doing the social media stuff easily. I know I can. I feel very confident myself. But, like, I always knew, like, if you ever had $10 million, like, you don't have to do anything ever. You can live your life as frivolous as you want. You feel like you are addicted to gambling, but that you have it under control and that you get the fix from the channel that makes money. So it kind of masks. Yeah, yeah. I don't think I have like a crazy, like I don't have addictive personality at all. Like I know I'm in control, but like walking past the table, like going to get dinner, it's like, oh, like I just want to play one hand. Like I'll just play one hand, you know, I don't, I'm not going to get out of control and lose $5,000. My thing is like, I, I, I, I, I do it as like, not as a joke, definitely. But like, I'll go in and I'm like, all right, like, I want to try to make dinner free.

Isn't dinner already free if you're at the casino? Yes, but I'm a very generous tipper. Okay. So, like, if I get a $200 to $1,000 every single time. Wow. Every single time. So, like, if I can win $500 on a Bacrott table or Blackjack table, craps table, then, like, I'm just like, all right, dinner's completely free.

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Visit Wayfair.ca. Wayfair, every style, every home. He's very... Honestly, he's concerned in sometimes, in some points. But he knows that I don't get out of control, right? I mean, I do. I definitely get out of control it sometimes. But, like, it's manageable.

So he definitely tells me, like, hey, just make sure you're doing this to, you know, keep yourself on track. Don't stray too far from the tree. What would you rate your finances one out of ten? Probably a five. Why five? I don't have any investments. I don't own any real estate. I don't have anything.

Everything I have is liquid. Okay. So you have, you have $0 invested. Zero. Then why is it a- Why do you have $0 invested? Why do you not change that tomorrow? I have to have yesterday.

Assets and cars. Yeah, I would say, If I were to rate your finances based on that, I would say it's maybe a three. Three, but can easily jump to an eight or a nine. All right, if you guys are my accountant, what would I do? Index fun. So we would break down.

We say, how much are you making net average? after expenses. How much can you save away at the end of every month? Yeah, I would say, like, merch is probably 15% to 20%. Like merch does pretty good, but I have a company that manages it, so they take a big chunk of it, like, off the rip. So I probably make, like, maybe 15 to $25,000 a month on merch. And then YouTube is a pretty good chunk.

That's probably, like, um, probably like 35%. I do like, because I have, three channels. So I probably do like 230 to 250,000 on YouTube. Wow. And then, um, yeah, the rest is with like my social casino deal. Okay. So here's, here's all you have to do. This is it. It's so simple. You create, I like Vegas Matt's whole strategy. You have a gambling fund. And you have $500,000 in this fund. And you pre-fund it for the year. It could be $750,000. A million for the year. It's pre-funded. That is your amount to gamble with. That is it.

You could use that. It'll be up and down, whatever. If you lose it all, that's your fund. Then everything else should be invested throughout probably index funds. And you could split it up throughout like United States companies, international companies. And then you're going to keep some off to the side for just safe investments like treasuries and bonds. Again, they're all index funds. He doesn't know what any of this.

I don't know what index funds is. No, we'll talk about it more after the podcast because the viewers, they're not going to learn much by this. If you want to know what an index fund is, YouTube, what is an index fund, Graham, Stephan, you'll watch the videos. It'll tell you all the information you need. We don't need to go into debt. Okay. You could stash away a significant amount of money, just having that gambling fund on the side,

and then everything else goes towards a small amount lifestyle, the rest savings, taxable brokerage accounts, that's it. Don't do anything fancy. The more boring it is, the better it's going to be for you long term. And all you have to do if you want to retire, five years. of that five years and you will be set for life not even not even five years yeah like it's way less well after taxes and stuff like that I would say way less yeah knowing you I think it's gonna be it's gonna be five years because you because you're gonna be

be living life and having fun and yeah I mean my life would probably be more tame if I stopped YouTube just because like a lot of the things that I do is for content you right but why not have any other investments why just cars. I really do enjoy the cars. So I, um, I mean, the way I buy cars is I try to buy like the rare ones, you know, like I know you have the Ford GT or did you get rid of it? Nice. I don't have it. So I try to buy cars that are either going to hold their value or appreciate. There are some cars that I do buy that aren't going to do that at all. But, um, you know, it's not, it's, it's small compared to the ones that I do buy that, uh, I want to hold. What are you buying? We got to

list off these cars. Yeah. So I have a like, I have a nine, six four Porsche, which is, is an RWB and it's like fully built. The motor itself was 110,000. Um, a ruby star color. So it's like a pink. How is that going to hold its value? Isn't, aren't you in more in the car than what it could be sold for?

I bought the car already done. I paid $300,000 for it. And I've already gotten an offer for $400,000. Holy crap. Yeah. Within a month. I got a $400,000 offer. And I told them now because I didn't get to enjoy it enough.

And I don't know if that's a car that I would sell. Because like, you, you saw a car like that. You'll never, ever, ever get it back. And like, the car is, so fun. It's such a nice car. So, I mean, like, obviously, there's a number I would sell it for. Honestly, if someone offered me 400 for it, I'd probably sell it, but again, because I've enjoyed it for, like, my time. So I have, like, I have another Porsche that's similar to that, like, it's a whole wide-body kit, and I paid 140 for it, and it could easily sell for over $200,000. And I've only

own these since, like, November. I have bought a bunch of, like, Japanese cars. Those are more so going to hold their value. I kind of got them at a good price. And I got them bulk. I bought them all at once. How many cars do you have? I think I counted recently. It was like 22. Where do you keep them? I have a warehouse. I have a warehouse. Well, I have two warehouses that are together, like, connected. And I got that because I started up a third channel for, like, car stuff. Well, it was vlogs, but I started up, like, car stuff. And that's, like, passion project. Like, I don't do it to, like, try to make crazy money or anything. It's more so to, like, give my friends, like, a position in the team to, you know, get hired and do things and maybe grow something for themselves.

What are your biggest financial regrets? There's a lot of videos where I've gambled way too much when I don't need to, and that's pretty much almost every video that I do now. A lot of people will comment and let me know that, like, I don't have to gamble that much. Like, you can gamble, like, a thousand dollars and we'll still watch. and obviously that would keep my costs way lower. But the things that I want to do sometimes, it just requires me to gamble a little bit higher.

Like I like doing things where I buy someone a car if I win a bunch of money or I'll give someone $20,000 for being a nice waitress or something. So it's kind of hard to be able to do crazy stravagant things like that if I only gamble $1,000. And what are your biggest expenses? Definitely gambling. Where are you spending all this money that you're making?

Gambling is definitely like the most expensive. It could definitely fluctuate though because it is gambling. Like I could win one month and the next month I could lose. Like this past month I've actually been doing pretty good. I may have lost maybe like $30,000 in the last month, which is like really, really low for how high I gamble. And, uh, You know, the other thing is like the warehouse.

The warehouse costs me $15,000 a month. Wow. Car insurance costs me a lot of money. I think it's car insurance is like $4,500 a month. How much does a girlfriend cost? I do not have a girlfriend trying to wonder how much of a budget do I set aside for one. We've been together for a while, like almost four years. So I'm very open to kind of let her do whatever she wants.

At first, when I first started bluff and, like, money started coming in, I was like, all right, $1,000 a month. Like, I don't want to get too out of hand. But it's gone to the point where, you know, I want her to enjoy her life. And, you know, I'm doing all this crazy stuff, buying all these cars and, you know, gambling, crazy amounts of money. And, like, I don't want to be like, oh, like, you're only allowed to have $500 a month to do whatever you want. No, it's, it's, she probably spends anywhere from like $10,000 to $20,000 a month is my assumption. She's on what? she'll do like she'll travel like to go see your family in Texas Girls trip out to Florida She'll go to Miami Well when she does a girl trip

I pay for all of them Like they did like a Whoa whoa Dude I want to wait Wait what do you guys Let's define the terms here because There's a negative connotation that goes with Girls trip

Yeah Like is she going to Miami No no no no They like they did like a winery in Napa And it was like four of them And like I've been in that position We're like okay $300 on a flight and then $200 for this and then the Airbnb is $300.

Like spending $800 ago on like a wine trip is very expensive. And like for me I can afford it. And I don't mind like, you know, it's, I'm not doing it for her friends. I'm doing it for her because she wants to go. And like she, does she need more friends? She's always taking friend application. Yeah, Graham's looking at. Yeah.

I would love to go to Navajo wine tasting. Yeah. Rolls trip, Jack. But, yeah, I mean, she, like, here's the main thing is that for the duration that we've been together, she hasn't really had friends. So, like, she's, like, basically become, like, part of this friend group as of recent. So, like, the entire past, like, years, she basically just, like, sits at home while I'm at work. Or, you know, especially, like, doing the bluff stuff.

I'm gone, like, 10 hours a day. She's just at home. So now she's, like, has some friends, and she can, like, you know, do things. but obviously not everyone has enough money to just go travel all the time. So I kind of like justified as like, all right, like, you know, my lady wants to go on a trip, but she doesn't want to go by herself and I don't have the time to go. Um, you know, just take your friends like, you know, don't do anything crazy, but like take your friends and just go have a good time. Do you ever talk numbers? Like she says, hey, I want this purse. It's 10 grand. What are you

going to like contribute towards it? Or is it never like numbers? She just kind of knows what you're comfortable spending and what you're not. Like, do you guys have conversations about budgets? Yeah, we've had conversations about budgets. And like, I let her know because I'm, I'm against designer. I hate designer stuff. I've never once spent a penny on designer stuff for myself. Now for my girlfriend, I spent a lot of money. You know, I don't, I don't think the name of something is going to give me like some sort of status. So I, and I also grew up once again, like very, you know, poor. And I used to have to wear the same outfit for a week going to the skate park and I was very self-conscious. So I think that kind of contributes. to that. And I talked to her. We've had conversations multiple times where, like, you know, I don't think, like, we should be spending all this money on designer stuff. Like, it's not valuable. It's not going to do anything. It brings nothing to the relationship. Does nothing. Whatever. She's like, oh, well, it makes me happy. And I'm like, okay, well, like, let's just set aside, like, all right, this is how much you're able to just spend. And, you know,

if you want something crazy, it's probably not going to happen. Maybe for a birthday, I'll get it for you. Like, I got her, like, a couple of, They're actually really nice, cool purses for her birthday recently. Was it a Birken bag? No, no, no, no. I wouldn't spend, I know. I wouldn't spend $30,000 on a bag. Okay, that's good.

Yeah. 10,000 I've spent, yes. What kind of bag is worth 10 grand, bro? Worth 10 grand? None is worth 10 grand. Trust me. None of them are worth 10,000. Yeah.

Why doesn't she just start her own channel? She has. She does, she has like a little vlog channel that we do like, it's like a couple's channel gambling channel yeah she did there are not that many female gambling channel no she did and it was actually doing pretty good but um she just doesn't want to be like in the casino all the time and then she's also like battling the fact of like once you start getting like a name and followers like you start getting recognized in public and then you know you start fearing for your safety at times and especially being like a woman and so that's like her concern but um

she's having fun one thing i've noticed is it seems like there's a constant theme of generosity and philanthropy. Like, you'll go get a free meal and then tip $500 to $1,000 to the waiter. You'll let your girlfriend, like, not let, but like, you know, she'll spend $10,000 to $20,000 a month. You don't seem to bat an eye at it. You know, it seems like you help out. You want your friends to succeed a lot, which is great. And then you have the bluff miss that you did where you spent half a million dollars on toys for kids where their families normally could not afford to buy their child a toy. Why is philanthropy? Why is philanthropy? be such a crucial thing in your life.

And how much do you know you're able to spend on it? What is your approach towards generosity and giving? I think the philanthropy stuff comes from, once again, my childhood. Growing up, like, I stopped getting Christmas presents when I was, like, eight years old. And, you know, you'd go to the skate park and everyone has a brand new bike, a brand new scooter, and I'm just riding, like, the same thing because we can't afford it. And I didn't, like, I wasn't in spite or anything like that. but, you know, seeing other people, like, getting all these, like, nice things,

brand new things. And you don't know their situations either. You know, maybe their parents are struggling and they just, like, barely scraped by to get them that thing. So I never, like, try to, like, despise anyone for it. But obviously it makes you feel a type of way where, you know, you wish you could get something or you wish you were able to, like, get one thing on your wish list. And also, like, you know, it's just the complete struggles from my childhood. I think kind of, is built into my brain where I don't want other people to go through that. Unfortunately, they do and they will have to, and I can't solve world hunger. I can't solve everything.

But, you know, if I'm able to provide during bluffness, I was able to provide, I think, uh, I think it was 3,000 or 4,000 kids with at least one toy, you know, that changes something for like during the holiday spirit. If I was able to like experience something like that, like that would make me feel like amazing. If I was able to go through this toy room and I get to pick out out of all these toys, one thing that I wanted, you know, that's like, I don't know. I just think like that's what the Christmas spirit is about. And I don't really have like a budget for like the philanthropy stuff. And like we tipped like a waitress one time. Actually, the whole video, I was like, I'm giving this waitress

$5,000. She was very nice. We tipped her a thousand like a couple weeks prior. And this was going to be off camera too. I do it all the time off camera. I tip 500 or $1,000. I just play games with the waitresses and stuff. Um, so I tipped him $1,000 and then we came back a couple weeks later because she was super nice and very appreciative. And, uh, the whole video was like, I'm going to tip her $5,000. I'm a tip her $5,000. I won $10,000 and I was like, I'm going to tip her $5,000. We show up to the restaurant. I'm outside and I'm introing back into the video and I'm like, I'm tipping her $10,000. And then we're in there and I gave her the $10,000. She starts crying. freaking out. And then she's like, oh, like, yeah, I work two jobs, like, to take care of my son. And I was like, oh, my God. I was like, just take this other 10,000 strap. Like, it's just, it's like,

I look at it as like, if I were in their shoes and someone just handed me a bunch of money, like, how drastically would my life change? Like, that could be like the pivotal point in your life where, you know, maybe it gives you enough confidence or it gives you the money where you can quit that job and go pursue, you know, school to do this. or you need to finish whatever. And, you know, or maybe you need to buy a car so you can start doing this other position that you have availability for.

And like for me, like if I give out $20,000, like $20,000 is a lot of money. But it's not going to like affect me enough where like I can't eat and I can't afford my life. But it brings me enough joy where to see someone that excited. And, you know, I just hope that it changes their life

for the good. What I find incredible is that a lot of other people don't feel the same way. Like, to grow up in the environment you grew up in where you're around stuff that's pretty hard quite often, a lot of the times that turns someone bitter and resentful and not wanting to give, but like wanting to take everything. And I'm curious, why have you, why are you able to take this rough childhood and turn it into like a very structure? positive, optimistic outlook on life. Like, why have you been able to do this when a lot of other people

that grow up in a similar environment, not able to? It's all about perspective, right? It's either, you know, glasses half empty or glass is half full. You can look at things, and this is away from, like, I say, gambling, you look at it negatively

so you don't have that addictive personality with it or whatever. But everything else you want to look at it in a positive way. Like in 2024 on July 4th, I had a firework hit my eye. And like I had 20, vision. I was perfectly fine. Someone lit a firework and it tipped over and it shot me in the eye and I lost vision in my left eye. So I have like this huge lens, right? And I can like barely see out of my left eye, even with the lens on. Um, you know, not once was I like, oh my God, like this sucks. You know, my first legitimately, my first thought was, wow, the click bait for my videos is going to be awesome. You know, it's, it's all about perspective and how you look at things. You can't,

you can't always look at the negative where, you know, I can go, like, if I was on my scooter. I can try this trick, but I don't want to because I might break my leg. Or you can look at it as, I'm going to try this trick because if I landed, it's going to be crazy. Like, you know, the feeling of landing it is going to be awesome. Was that an intentional decision that you made at a point of time in your life where you're like, okay, I'm going to start looking at things positive? or has it always been like a subconscious thing that you never really had to fully like think about? I think it's always been like subconscious. It's not like something I've forced. I've always like looked at things like from different perspectives because like growing up, right? Sure, I grew up.

I slept on the floor, but you know, thankfully I had a house to sleep in. Sure, I had to drink cereal with fake milk or whatever, but at least I was able to eat food. You know, it's, it's many things that you have to look at and then you just have to be appreciative and thankful for. even if it's, you know, to the normal standards, if it's weird and, you know, poor. But, you know, there's people in the world that are even, you know, there's always worse. There's always worse. So you always have to be appreciative and thankful for what you have and what you can do. If you were to assign one aspect about your personality or character to the success and the

incredible life that you've lived so far, what would it be? Would it be the positivity? Would it be hard work? Would it be perspective shifting? What would it be? I would say it's positivity. It's, you know, it's, I think if you're a positive person and you can't let things bring you down, you know, it gives you confidence in every aspect. You can't let things destroy you. You know, oh, you're short on rent one month, you know, but you're not letting it get you down and, you know, maybe something happens and you get like this crazy good job offer because you're not letting it, you know, ruin your attitude and you meet someone in a coffee shop that is going to offer you a crazy position because they like you. It's, it's really positivity and perspective. At what point did the reality of your life not be surreal to you?

Like you're making crazy, crazy, crazy money and you're living an absurd life all compared to how you grew up. At what point did it all finally settle in? Probably sometime last year. I'd say probably like late last year, maybe after my birthday, which is in August. So yeah, about late last year. it's just like it's those things where I say when you take a step back and you just kind of look at life and reflect and it's just like I just can't believe like this is my life this is what's gone you know this is what

I've gone through and this is what I'm going through now and like you know and I'm I'm almost 30 years and you know all this has happened in 30 years and I can only remember God knows how many like what the hell is going to happen in the next 30 years it's it's just so crazy but you also have to be very careful because, you know, whatever you have now can be taken away instantly. What is your greatest insecurity? If you build things online, you know the stack can get messy fast. Docs in one place, project tracking somewhere else.

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Notion.com slash amp. Oh, God. It used to be my teeth. My teeth used to be really bad. Really? They didn't not look bad. They used to be really,

no, really bad. Like years ago, back when I used to ride scooters. Yeah, I watched, like, the documentary on you.

Yeah. They, I used to have, like, they were all crooked and chipped, and I used to have, like, a snaggle tooth up here.

It used to be really bad. So then I got, like, veneers in Tijuana, and they were really bad veneers. And then I just, got these redone like as a recent maybe a couple months ago they look really good yeah yeah i'm very happy with these and like that's something that like i'm proud of like sure i have fake teeth and i spent money on veneers but like now like i can smile and like talk to people and i have confidence like

before as a kid with my teeth as they were i just like i would laugh like this and smile like this and like i just didn't want to show like my teeth you know but now insecurity i don't really have any insecurities. I'm pretty confident. Like, it's funny. Like, I have like this lazy eye and like, you know, people make fun of me. I think it's funny. I make fun of it too. What does it look like to see out of that eye? Um, without my glasses, I can't even see it. Without my glasses, I can't even see it. Without my glasses, just blobs and like color. It's kind of like, if you take wax paper and you try to look through it, that's exactly what it is. And with the glasses. With the glasses, I can like see your faces. Can you see like fingers if I hold them up?

Yeah, I think you're holding like three fingers. Yeah. But like my photo receptors are damaged. So like if you saw it had to like turn to kind of catch it, I'd have to like find a sweet spot. Do you still like fireworks? Oh yeah, yeah. I lit fireworks on New Year's Eve later that year.

But I have not lit fireworks since then. What is your advice for young people who want to be successful? Let's see. There's obviously there's hard work. There's planning, you know, staying positive. not letting things get to you, even little things, you know, you stub your toe, laugh at it. You know, I think it kind of, if you can laugh at yourself at minor things and then you start gradually getting into the bigger things, you can start laughing at yourself, like, you know,

oh, I backed into a wall. It's like, oh, God, I'm like an idiot, you know. It kind of, it kind of gives you that different look on life where if someone, let's say you do get, you know, successful in the YouTube space, which you really need to really thick skin for, Um, you know, people start commenting like, oh, like your eyes huge. You look like this. You look like whatever. You look like stevo or whatever. You know, people are trying to disrespect you and, you know, make fun of you. I think if you just start training yourself, that'll help. Um, not just in YouTube. I guess that's with anything. Um, yeah, I think, I think the work ethic is the main thing. You know, now, now that I do the YouTube stuff, I work more than ever. I've, this is way harder than, well, I'm not to say it's, way harder, but I'm working more than I was working out of nine to five, you know, obviously the work is different, you know, more labor this way and, you know, more intellectual that way. But I think the one thing that a lot of people mess up on when they start getting successful in like social media space, they start spending their money too fast. They start buying things that

they don't need because they want to show that status. You know, they start buying jewelry and they start buying designer stuff because they're making 10,000, 20,000 a month. Oh, I can afford a $2,000 bag. I can afford a $2,000 pair of shoes. I just think, you know, you got to look at it as, is this going to benefit me to make more money or is this just going to benefit my, you know, emotional status? So I think just really planning and being smart about your money is the first stepping stone. What's the one thing you hope the viewer can learn from you? Don't gamble.

Unless it's for recreational fun. I got an idea if you're down. I'm not town. I already know what you're going to say. Do you don't want to gamble? No. So we played this game with the money guys. And we had three coins. It was heads or tails. The odd one out gets all the money. And so I'm saying if it's like heads, heads, tails, you win.

Yeah, I'm in. there's a there's a similar game to that where uh like let's say you and i each have a hundred dollar bill and we fold it a specific way you call odds or evens and then we both flip the the bill if both if both bills land facing the same way evans would win odds is the other way that's like that's kind of like that similar go uh no i don't do you yeah yeah i mean if if it's a 50 50 if there's no skill in no yeah there's no skill to 50 50 house edge i mean i would do it for a hundred bucks. I would not do it for a thousand. Who said a thousand? Oh, I mean, if you're in for, I'm in for a thousand. I was going to say, five hundred each. Because

then now the person wins a thousand if they win. Right. You guys can, because then, you know, between you two, it'd be a thousand dollar payout. I would not do five hundred dollars. Personally. I mean, this guy was, this guy had a cockroach farm. No, no, no, don't get Gavin. The guy had a cockroach farm to save money, so he wouldn't have the feet his bearded list. I would do, I would do a heads or tails are your 500. I'm in, yeah. I have a coin. There we go, perfect. All righty. 500? Yeah. Oh, we're just going to flip a coin?

Yeah. Do you want to do that? Yeah, I'm in. Yeah, you're down. I'm addicted to gambling, dude. You think I'm going to say no? This is free money. All right. So I would Venmo you if you're cool with that. That's fine. That's totally fine. I think I'm going to lose. I've been on a little cold street. Okay. I feel like, do you have a preference that's sales? This is a euro. This is a two euro.

So we'll do heads and tails. the two is heads I feel like it's going to be tails You can flip the coin Really? Yeah I think tails your heads Sure So tails I win

Tails you win Okay All right Anyways guys We just did the coin flip If you want to see it I will allow it to be on members only I'm sorry

It's not that I hate the members I just like everyone to have access to everything Anyways Yeah Thank you so much for coming on the podcast Thank you Thank you guys so much for watching the video Thank you to everyone sitting behind the scenes

Thank you Until next time Until like that.