The Iced Coffee Hour - How to travel the ENTIRE world for $10,000 | Cassie De Pecol

Episode Date: September 6, 2020

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Thank you for tuning in. Today we have a wonderful guest, Cassie de Peckle. Correct? Depecle. Why don't you say your last name? How about you do that? Way to go. That was really good, though.

You just spaced it out a little too much, but otherwise that was, yeah. How would you do it? It's de peccle. Depeckle. Yeah. Close to embarrass us. in front of our guest all the hours of research

that I do to prepare an outline that's what I come up with. Anyways, welcome to the show. So really exciting guests. Look at this. You brought books for us. So your thing, you have been to every single country

in the world. Every single one of them. A lot of countries. And even, I would say this is what shocked me. Not that. Not that that was naked and afraid. I forgot you

Yeah Naked and afraid Yeah I used to love that show And you were in one of the episodes I don't know if we could put a clip up here For copyright reasons So we could just leave this to be searched But anyway

But you traveled the world Just all in your own Yeah Okay so where do we even I don't even know where to begin I have a feeling that's probably the most interesting Let's talk about that And then we'll talk about naked and afraid

Yeah I'm definitely willing to dive deep into either or both at the same time. Let's do both. We'll start with traveling the world. Why, how feasible of that? Because you do that for free, right? How much it costs you? Let's talk about cost first.

Right in deep with the money aspect. Yeah, so essentially, before this whole thing, long-so-shirter, I was like a babysitter, not even nanny babysitting. So making, I don't know, like, around like 40, 35, somewhere around there. So I started this business. It was actually the idea stemmed from sitting in the dirt in a fetal position, like dirt naked and afraid in the jungle. But it started from like a really weird space.

But I, yeah, it was, you know, created the whole idea. And I thought, all right, it's going to be around. Created the budget. Sorry, I'm kind of jumping around. How do you create a budget? What happened with the federal position to try? No, I was thinking that there. Where that's a little one and I'm like going in my head and I'm like, hold on.

One at times. So you did naked and afraid first. Yes. Yes. Before. Okay. And that's where the idea I came from. But getting on naked and afraid to begin with, how do you qualify for that?

What are the qualifications for getting on the show to begin with? Because you have to have a back. They're not going to let me go on naked and afraid. There's no way. Because I wouldn't last one night. I mean, okay. There's no air conditioning out there. There's no heater out there.

No, nothing. There's no temperapeutic mattress. I can't. How am I supposed to. So they have to make sure you're hardcore. So they do. And like essentially when I was growing up, I was homeschooled a lot growing up on and off. So we did, we had a guy come to the house and do like survival stuff.

And then I went to Green Mountain College in Vermont and Vermont. And I also did survival stuff there. So I'm like, I think I can survive, you know. So I'm going to go ahead and I was working at a pyramid scheme door to door business to business sales job for like Verizon. Pyramid scheme like total. I was Verizon appearance. It was terrible. It was, it was like.

someone who's like, it was like this company, they say their own company, but they're actually not, like they have no affiliation with Verizon and they're trying to sell their like phones and Wi-Fi or whatever two businesses. Are you allowed to say? I don't know. Like, they're going to come get you. Should I? I don't know. It doesn't matter. It's called Potomac Advisory Group. It was in Alexandria, Virginia. And I think they're closed now. And they like, they just fired me and like they didn't give me unemployment and like whatever. And like they, it was for no, whatever anyways um and so yeah i was just sitting on my couch one day i was like i hate my life and then i just saw these like naked people running across the tv screen i was like what are they doing and they're

like in the jungle that you know what i think it's time like my life is is kind of bad at the i feel like i'm at my rock bottom at the moment so i'm going to go ahead and just do it so you wanted to run naked across the tv screen and i was like you know what maybe that might be my thing you know so i just like filled in an application. I didn't know what it was for, you know, until I was filling it out. And they're like, you have to survive like naked in the jungle. It's like 21 days. And I'm like, all right, well, I'm still going to do it. Because I do have some survival skills, you know, from homeschooling in college. And sure enough. Surviving homeschool. Yeah. Surviving college. So, okay, so you submit the application. How much longer until they get back to you?

It was a couple weeks or so. And then, like, they had the preliminary, like, we're interested. and then it was like, it was a matter of like, I want to say two months, and then they flew me out to L.A. I was still in D.C. at the time. And, yeah, and they just, they kind of had me, like, go through the process here. And I was pretty much in. What's the process? Do they ask you to get naked? No, no, no.

It was like they had you do like a, like, like a psychology, like sex tests, make sure you're, like mentally sane and just like ask they, they, you. You had to, like, do some tests with, like, a survivalist and make sure you knew what you were talking about. It was pretty easy, but it was, honestly, they were looking for the villain, I think, of that, of that season. Were you the villain? Yeah, I was. How were you the villain?

So it's like they have, I feel like even with reality TV, they have the characters I've learned over the years. And I was on a special with, like, four people instead of two. So I was that young blonde dits. be the word of a contestant. Okay. And who didn't know what she was doing. So I'm an introvert and I love working alone, like not with a team.

You know, I'm like, I'm a hard worker, but like alone. And it's the same thing that with, you know, with naked and afraid, I was just doing a lot of work, but I was doing it alone. And the team didn't like that because they wanted me to work with them. Did you make it all the way to the end? I did. Yeah. What do you win?

Nothing. Absolutely nothing. You would think there's a cash prize. There's a little tiny cash prize. So you want a little bit of cash. Oh, you can't. Okay. Tiny little touch.

Wow. But you would, but you would think that that would require people to take 30 days? Wait, wait, how many days is that? 21.

21 days. And they wanted me to go back for the 40, 42 day, like double the time. Wow. Then you didn't go back. I was like, one mil. Publicity, right? I literally request it like a mill.

Yeah. Well, I mean, not even like, because like, the people who watch that kind of show, it's like they're kind of like well I mean in general generally speaking like Graham watches eyesight I mean I did too obviously like I found out about it from watching it but like generally speaking it's like people like redneck America I feel like I mean not to be judgment but I watch it too if anyone watches the show this is not directed towards you and I have friends who watch it too but you know generally speaking I feel like I don't know if the audience

would really help honestly it hasn't really helps me because they've all been like like you suck, you're this, you're that. It's like all negative. And I'm like, I'm sure. So you were on the show and that gave you the inspiration to travel every country? Yeah. Well, I, yeah. Let's talk logistics of the show for a second.

How do you, like, how do you use the restroom? Do you just, or how do you like, do you eat? Good question. Do you have to hunt? Do you have to hunt for your food? Yeah, thankfully my partner was good at that. I got the snails in the river. but with the bathroom, the ocean.

So one big misconception was like they would see us laying on rocks, specifically just me, like, as if I was tanning, like using this time to tan my body, like trying to survive on a rock. But it's like you go in the ocean, you take a, you know, you piss. I don't know if you want me to swear on this or no. No swearing. Or if you do, we'll just bleep it out. Okay, he'll bleep it out.

So you go one and two in the ocean, and then you just like got to lay off to dry because then you have to go back to work in the jungle again. We were on a beach ocean thing. So that's when we would most do it is in the ocean, like to answer. What about brushing teeth? No. Like sometimes we'd take some like leaves like coconut leaves or whatever, but no.

Yeah. We're not really eating either. So it was actually so naked and afraid is actually legit. Oh no, it's like legit. Yeah, it's totally. Okay. Because I always was under the impression that those shows they provide you with like toilet paper, toothbrushes, deodorant even like.

tampons. They didn't? They do. Oh. I feel like they have to. Otherwise like what are you going to do? Sit in your tent and like what are you going to do? Yeah.

Yeah. Right. Yeah. Nothing else though. That's like the extent of it. Okay. I mean I even like contacts and I had like solution but I had to like wash it with my dirty hands. Really?

Oh yeah. Like not even like. Wow. Yeah. And what if you were going to eat a snail that was like poisonous or something? Like what if you were. No they do. So if they see something like you're crawling in poison ivy.

They're just. Yeah. So if a bear comes up to you and is going to mall you, then they'll probably try and break that apart if it were that, if that were the case. But like one of the producers like on my special, it was the season one double jeopardy special. And the producer on that show like when they were preparing for this episode, he was, they were scoping out areas or whatever. And he got bit by what kind of, what kind of snake, a coral snake, I think it was. And he had to go to the hospital. I mean, his whole leg, I mean, he ended up okay, but it was like super intense, you know.

Those were the jungles that we were like dealing with, you know. Huh. So you literally just survived in the wild as if it was like 2,000 years ago. Yeah. What do you do for drinking water? Thankfully to one of my teammates, they found like a little sip thing, like a sieve, a sieve, not a sip, a sieve. Like coming from a rock. And so we'd fill that with like coconut, fill the coconut bowl with that water.

How do you eat it? We're lucky. Did you lose a ton of weight or something during that? Yeah, I mean, I lost 14 pounds. My partner lost like 28 pounds. I mean... So you could only do that for about three weeks before your body. I would imagine it starts to shut down. Yeah. I just don't know how to do that. How they do that? The teeth is just what keeps sewing off. It's like, you would do it if you could brush your teeth. Yeah. Yeah. Like, do you go to the dentist? Like, go to the dentist? Like, I would. Right after get a teeth cleaning. I did make, like, clothing out of, like, coconut husk. Like, I made a bra and, like,

you know, like a little skirt thing. And my teammates were like, we need that to make a fire tonight. I was like, ooh, but can you find something else? And I'll help you because I don't want to give it my... Classic. And then in front of the, you know, film people, and I just had to like take that bra.

What was that like getting... Because I know the beginning of the show, it's like you just straight up see the other person, you're both naked. Was there any embarrassment with that? Listen, the very... My situation, like everyone's situation is different, but mine.

His name was Forrest, and he's actually from Santa Barbara. He's from, I think he was like Zimbabwe originally, but like he lives in Santa Barbara. And he just like, you know, we got out this boat, walked towards each other. He put his hands in the air and just started shaking his thing. Is that, no, when you met for that, was that actually the first time you met? That was the very first time we met. And I was just like looking at him, like, coming at me, like, dancing and shaking his thing.

And I was just like, oh, this is just really embarrassing. No, I think it'd be better. And the shake is like you're supposed to laugh. Because you don't know it could go either way. Like it's not funny. Like it's not funny. But I have to laugh because and I'm on TV. Yeah, it's a little weird.

I mean, if that was like out in public, in the open in public, that would be. That would, yeah. Because you don't know what type of person you're getting. When they do that, it could either be trying to ease attention or their little. Like that's like actually a person. Exactly. Yeah. Like a certain.

Like a certain. Like a certain. Like a certain. Exactly, exactly. Okay. And yeah, yeah, so I'm not going to speak further on that one. Wow. The answer to it.

But yeah, that was, that was, that was, we didn't get along. Okay. You in Forrest? Yeah, we didn't. Okay. But, you know, it is, it is what it is. And at the end of the day, we still kind of talk, like Manu and I, one of my partners. We all still talk now.

We're just kind of like life in our way, but we were, totally fine and happy at the end, like all of us, friends and stuff. But during it, you would never think that. So was one of the first things that you did was just fine clothes, I would assume? First thing was the shelter. So, yeah, okay, that makes sense. And then I was like, all right, I'm going to make some, like, pull a leaf over, over myself, just, like, tie a leaf with some, there's so much, we were in a really good spot. Like, if you were in the middle of, like, the African, like, sub-Saharan desert or whatever, there would be, like, nothing, you know, to like make anything out of but we were in kind of the jungle beach so there were some coconut

trees coconut husks to make stuff out of but yeah the shelter was really important and we didn't agree on that on how to do it about what was the first thing you did after the show like what was the first thing you ate or you put clothes on what what was that like brush your teeth brush the teeth yeah made a video first of all like looking disgusting no no teeth brushed for my Instagram um and and and then they had like a huge smorgasbord of like like pork rinds and like all this like everything you could ask for essentially and beer so i think the first sip i had was like of a beer really you wouldn't want just like water yeah i would know that like dissoni that's a good point in the helicopter when they rescued like when we got to the helicopter they gave us like those um those granola like new tree bars that like fall apart or whatever and water so that was the first thing and then we had the um whole you know, smorgasbarned. Right.

And then what about when you got home? What was the first, like, would you want a McDonald? I'd get a Big Mac. Oh, yeah. Yeah, you gotta give you a Big Mac. This is really bringing me back. Yeah.

Or sushi. Man. Oh my gosh. I think it, I think it was probably like sushi or something. Okay. Like, something with my family.

I don't remember or something. Like, I don't, yeah. I just stuff myself. I gained it all back in like a week. And how about sleeping? Could you sleep well there? No, not. Not at all.

So you were basically always tired. Yeah. Always. And what were your most? It took turns. Like, oh, wow. Wow.

So. How do you wake up? I guess you would wake up to you. How do you know what time it is? I don't know. They just like, you know, you just kind of like, all right. Like, I'm about to fall asleep. So can you please just take over?

And then we'd like take turns watching the fire. That's miserable. Yeah. It was totally. And it was pouring rain. Yeah. 55 degrees. You know, like freezing.

You know. rain falling on you there were there were little hermit crabs crawling all over us oh gosh oh yeah no we're like uh oh don't move there's something and i was like oh god there's something that was the one who wow of course yeah there was something there were little ants there was spying you know snakes so what does that make you feel now when you go home and like you're in a house no i'm so grateful i'm so grateful still has this had an impact even to this day it's like just to have a kitchen yes okay yes and i live

in a very tiny home. Like it's like 480 square feet. And it's into a pink like really, really small. And I'm just like, you know what? I'm so grateful for this right now. Like this is all I could ask for. I don't want to, you know, you never know what. Makes sense.

Yeah. There's one more thing I'm just wildly curious about. What would you eat? Like what was, what was, I'm sure that there were common things that you just continued to eat because it was readily available. I was going to say something. And then I was like,

yeah, yeah. What was it? Yeah. So there were there are these monkeys that would like kind of open up these berries like chew the stuff outside the berries and like throw them on the ground or throw the bad ones on the ground. And so Minu and I would actually go out and collect these berries at these monkeys just kind of like worked and like open and like threw on the ground and we would eat those. So like a lot of those berries from the monkeys. I thought you were about to say the monkey. Like you know they had these monkeys. and it tasted good. My partner killed an armadillo. Like the very first week that we... Yeah.

The very first week we were there, it was just him and I. And he was like, all right, Cassie, make the fire. I'm like, all right, here's my time to show. How do he do it? What? How do he do it? He just, like, he saw it. He put his hand over the neck and just get a little spear than he did.

Oh, I'd have too hard of a time doing that, though. I mean, I guess if you're really hungry. Plus, armadillo is like... Was it good? The disease you can, like, catch a little. that I forget what it's called like what is it called even if it's salmonella no it's something it's something it's like a disease that lasts with you for a long time oh gosh but yeah I couldn't make the fire so it was did it taste

good that one that one you didn't make the fire and so he was very angry and so oh wait you didn't let you eat it no because we had to cook it we had to cook that yeah so what did you just like fish you just let it sit there yeah we let it sit there I know well I none of us neither one of us could make the fire Because it was so damp over there, like so wet and everything with that. But I will say, though, the last one, the last nights we had to trek like four days through the jungle across the ocean. Right to the extraction points they caught, right? I remember that.

It was across the ocean, filled with sharks. And he caught us all like lobster. He was, he went gung-ho, he caught us lobster. Wait, was this forest? This is forest. Wow. That was when it all came to fruition for him. Like his whole, you know, what he'd been working for it, actually just, he just caught it all.

And he worked really hard to catch that stuff. And I'm like, I feel bad. But he shared it equally, whatever. Wow. And we did eat the hermit crabs, put those over the fire and just. How do you eat a hermit crab? Is it just the belly that goes into the thing? It's like the whole crab.

And then you just eat the shell and everything? Just chomp on it all. Shell and everything. I don't think it's how you eat it in the modern world, but that's how we ate it. I guess you would have to eat that, but you just chew it. What was the weirdest thing you ate? Um, in general or just like in the show in the show and then in general. In the show. Okay.

Yeah, it's great. Some funky stuff. Wow. I don't know. I mean, I would say probably those monkey droppings because we're not for sure where those came from, you know, like with the snails from that little river. Like you know that those are snails coming from the river. We ate oysters off the rock.

We like chucked them off the rock with a sword or machete. but I would just say the monkey dropping it's not really that like intense and then in general Checha and the Amazon I don't know what that is. She really travels What is that?

So in the deep within the Amazon which you guys got to go and get the chances Amazon? Yes Deep within So like these ladies in the little communities like the community that I went to

she would like chew on this like root and it would create Cheetah I forget the name of the root, don't ask. My memory is terrible, but I remember, shoot, they would, like, chew on this root. They would spit it into this, like, wooden bowl, and then they'd mix it with the water from the river. And then they'd let it sit in the sun and ferment into this beer.

And they'd feed it to all the guys in the community after they played soccer, you know? And then they fed it to all of us. So there'd be, like, kind of white stuff. You're not sure, and it's, like, a fermented. And it kind of also is, like, a beer. so it also makes you feel like a little bit. So you're like, what's going on?

So someone chews that. The lady, the little old ladies, like, who don't really, like, the teeth are kind of missing. But it ferments. But it ferments. So it kind of gets rid of that bacteria. How much do they have to chew to get, like, a drinkable? I'd imagine it would be a lot. For one root, it's like one big stock will get, like, one drink.

And how many? And is it, like, a drink per person? Yeah. And how long does it take to do it chew a whole route? Like, an hour? sit there and just like our grandmas will sit and knit like all day like do they issue in the root do they get paid for it they're like no they just do wait what they're the they're the little ladies in the community who just like love to support their families and

what if they're ill well then they don't do it yeah wait hold on who you guys are why don't you just why don't you just chew your own sticks yeah that's a good that's a good one You have to drink someone else's chewed stick. It's family. Like if your grandma made this sort of drink for you. No, I would absolutely not. I mean, if you didn't know any better. You knew better though.

I did, but I don't think the guys in the family. They know where it's coming from, though. It's not a surprise. Here's this mystery drink with white chunks. It's like, oh. And they actually feed it to you. So like you have to drink it. Like you're not just like taking it.

You're like, I'll just take a little. No, they actually put it into your mouth. Like they feed it. They, so like a bird? Part of accepting, like, food, you know? Like, with moms and ladies of, like, communities, like, accepting the food is so important. So they want you to actually consume the food and accept it and, like. Wait, do they put it in your mouth?

Or do they get? They'll actually just, like. Oh, my gosh. Wow. What happens if you're to gag? Like, you do that. Oh, well, then that's disrespectful. What if you can't help it?

That's okay. They're going to forgive you. and they'll be like, let's try again. She needs to be chewed more. Wow. What does it taste like? It was absolutely disgusting. Really?

Yeah, it was very disgusting. That's what I would, yeah. But what does it taste, like what? Oh, God, I can't even, it was so long ago. It was fermented. Imagine like something that's fermented. Okay. And it had like a tang and also like a weird earthy flavor to it, like very earthy,

almost like dirt because it kind of was that's what it tasted like essentially like an dirt earthy weird okay kind of like that drink I had in I'm just confused how people

invent that like who thought I'm gonna chew this I'm gonna ferment it I'm gonna leave it out and then I'm gonna drink it and then I'm gonna share that started off with some weird guy that like wanted some girl to do that or something

oh no I don't get how some of this stuff is invented. That's what I want to know. Like, who's the first guy to make this? And how did he share this with his buds? Yeah. There was a drinker also had in Vanuatu, too, where they, like, like, the drink or the

Vanuatu? It's a country in the Pacific, kind of near Australia, I guess, is the closest kind of country. Jack's never left California. Oh, oh, my God, really? I've left California. I haven't left the country. He's been to Vegas. All right, all right.

Okay. You're getting a newbie here. Never reject the mom's food or drink, like ever. Otherwise, it's a huge diss and they'll become angry at you, and they won't want to host you anymore. Okay. Yeah. But this is Kava. It was called Kava.

Oh, I've heard of that. I've heard of it. That was big in Fiji. Yeah, they have it over there too. Yeah, yeah, for sure. And I feel like in L.A., they have some of that coming over here too. They have the Kava route. It's supposed to be good for you.

Yeah. It's not in like high quantities or whatever, but like the guys. They arrived me into their little shack, and then they just, like, grinded it, and they just, like, essentially mix it with water. I was like, I made a video on it. I was like, you mix it with water, and then you drink it.

And it's, like, kind of, like, the effect of, like, weed effect or marijuana, chill or whatnot. But as opposed to, like, marijuana, Kava is not good in, like, high quality. Like, if you take it for a while, it's, like, it wreaks havoc on your system. Really?

I know, I don't think they know about it. It's, like, something that needs to be more educated. Hmm. That was, yeah. But the, yes, the Amazonian experience was, that was probably, though, the food was. Okay. What is the worst thing you've ever tasted?

Um, I think I had like a human finger. No. No. I almost believe that for that. I'm like, you went to, you went to the Amazon. Don't they have, do they have cannibals there? Don't they? No, that's in the Philippines.

Is that really? In the mountains in the Philippines, they had cannibalism there for a while. Did you see that? No, I did not. Okay. I was really sick in Papua New Guinea, actually. Wow, okay. Jackfruit, which we have here, right?

Sounds tasty. What is it? You turn into meat, jackfruit. It tastes really foul. I don't like that. Tastes foul. Very foul. That sounds like it just really good.

Jack fruit. How? Vegan meat. If you go to like Whole Foods, you'll see it. Okay. Essentially, it's like a big prickly thing. like they shave it and it's kind of oh yeah yeah the yellow things with the bricks on yeah exactly and so like I would eat that and a lot like in Central America and stuff

that's the worst tasting thing you ever had is yeah that's it yes that's what it is okay you can see this grocery stores and stuff I'm not very picky like I pretty much eat everything you know it's not that exciting so you travel everywhere let's go let's go to this now okay so you were in the fetal position and you decided every country how many countries have You've been to prior to that? I've been to around 25 or so, 24, 26, somewhere in between there. And that was between the ages of 18 and 23, essentially. How'd you pay for that?

Before? Yes. Okay. I had, it was boost-dropping, like nothing. I had a blog, I'd make like a little bit of money off of that, like $100 a month. and that would I was able to afford my next ticket to the next country but essentially I would utilize like help X and work away and I would just get free room and board for like months at a time and they provide me like food and a place to sleep and some of them would provide me a little bit of

cash and I would just utilize that to get to the next place what what sort of work so like backing up a little tiny touch because I feel like this makes sense if I don't like you have to start off with like a little bit so I was around like 20 and you know saved up like 2000 500 bucks and you know my brother and I took off that that you know September and he had more than I did but that he ended up cutting it up off short that whole trip but I was like I lot you know I was able to make it last around two years with that you know 2,500 and I ended up making some money along the way with that yeah so you were mentioning like blogs but what's the work the work from home thing is the work thing where you could live for free and just work yeah what's work where are you doing? Like I would literally find the most luxurious like hotel in the area and one of them was like in Machupeju. That's like the best example. Yeah. And they'd be like, I'd be like, listen, can I get a room for the night? I'm like, well, it's, you know, 500 bucks a night. I'm like, but I'm a sustainability consultant and actually want to help out your hotel on how to

be more like energy efficient and optimized revenues and I have a cost benefit analysis and had this whole like manila folder and like presentation literally like go in there and the manager would like sit me down they like usually buy me a meal they'd talk about it they'd be like yeah i'd love I'd love for you to like educate and yeah we'll give you we'll give you a couple nights in our you know that's how I would like leverage that was it just a template that you would take to every hotel I would switch it to like based on their like prices and everything I see so you just like a template and I'm not a math person okay graduate college because I couldn't pass it right you could sell this template to other people

one of these sustainability consultant teach a course imagine all of all of the subscribers who's just like hey

sustainability consultant like you're the 10th person this week that's came to this hotel the fifth person today

we take our rooms yeah yeah no I mean I feel like especially when you're traveling internationally the like they want you like you're coming

from America you know and you are coming from educational degree like or some sort of educational background and so they kind of

they see that as being a value you and if you have something to offer, then, you know, and they're interested in it. And so that's kind of why I built. I started a website. I started my own business. It all failed. Yeah.

So at this point, how much were you making or was it just all being funneled back into traveling? It was all being funneled back. I would eat bread. You were you financially? Like, what happens if you're homeless in another country? Every, every day. I was like, like, we didn't grow up with a lot of money. We grew up with like moderate.

you know, but like I was kind of used to not grow up with a lot of money to be able to spend on things. So I was very much used to like, and I was like, listen, I'll sleep in train stations, I'll sleep on the sidewalk of like, you know, New York City. It doesn't matter, you know. I would, so I would sleep on the sidewalks. I would sleep in train stations and airport. It did not matter at the time. Now if I were to do that, I'd be like, yeah, no, no thanks, you know, but back then it was okay and it's what I was prepared for essentially. What made you want to decide to travel to every country? Because I'm sure that was probably there was a time in your life where you had to make the decision

or you had the idea of traveling to every single country. Like what made you make that decision? I had done a lot of travel like prior to around 25 countries or so. And I was like, you know what? I wonder if I just saw the entire world, like every single country, what that would be like. So it was a passion of mine to see every single country. And it just kind of sat with me. and then one day I saw the front page of CNN.

There was this really beautiful guy on it. I was like, I just went to that article. Jack, I didn't know you on CNN. You spoil me. Yeah, and no, so this guy was apparently like on The Bachelor, and he did like a little segment. I was like, oh, wait, I've been on naked and afraid for like a little segment thing or an episode, whatever.

And his goal was to go to every country in the world and be the fastest person to do it. I was like, wow, like, that is cool. But why is he on the front page? And his name was Eric Hill. And he was like 50 countries in, and he was paragliding in Utah. I think it was from Utah.

And he went into a, I don't want to, he died. Yeah. Unfortunately, he died. And he was like 32. He was gorgeous. I thought he was my number one, like in life. I really thought we were going to be married.

Wow. He's like the only man. I've ever been like, we're meant to be together. And then I saw that and I was like, well, and so I actually talked to his family and stuff. And they're like, well, we're really glad you're talking about his legacy and spreading that. Because I was talking, that's how I found out about the Guinness World Record, essentially. And like that, wow, this is possible, you know.

Jeez. Yeah, the only other guy to break to do this record that I did was he did it in like, I don't know, like three years and 10 months or something. Yeah. But how long did it take you? it took me 18 months in 10 days Wow I did it really quickly What's the current record

So actually there's a girl who broke it And she did it in like 18 months And like a little less than that How difficult is that to do? I mean if you had a few hundred grand Could you just knock this out in a year And then you take a world record? That's a good question

Because I feel like a lot of people It depends on your passport Where you're from And if you can get those certain last visas, like Yemen, Turkmenistan, Syria, Pakistan. And it's kind of like in their hands. And when I was finished, it was like 2017, I finished like in February. But I went through the whole election, like with Trump, you know, and he, the last like week I was finishing, he had that sanction where people, you know, citizens of Iraq, Iran, there were like four countries. Yeah.

Yemen was one of them. Couldn't travel to the U.S. So they put that ban on for people. from the U.S. couldn't travel to their countries. And I was about to travel to Yemen is my last country. I was like, I was like sweating. I can't imagine you're just doing this and then not visiting Yemen. Yeah, it's the very last country. The stress was like incredible. Plus it's like really hard to get there as an American.

They're like, if you go to the U.S. embassy in Oman, they're going to be like, well, if you go into Yemen, we have absolutely no liability over you and that you're in there yourself. Like we cannot get you out, even if you have like anything, we cannot get you out. And so I was like, it's fine. I got to go there. But like, with that happening and that? And I was like, oh, God. Ended up doing it just in time before they realized that he had that sanction.

Could you just step in the airport? What counts is you visiting a country? It's just like, you just step in the airport. Like, I'm here. Get back in the plane. Yeah. You have to go past border control and baggage claim. Like you have to go through, like, border control, get your passport stamped,

which usually requires you to, like, go outside the airport. So you essentially, like, I went outside the airport in every country. So, like, for Guinness, that's what was required for that. Yeah. How many countries have you been to where it's just outside the airport and then go right back? Around like 15. Which countries?

Or just a couple, like off the... Nauru was one of them. Haven't heard of that. Yeah. Why? Is it the time reasons or safety reasons? It was budget. Because I had a huge budget I had to inherit to.

And make sure that And a lot of those countries were in Africa too Because Africa's really expensive To travel to believe it or not Why? The flights to get there Since there's not a lot of options

With hotels and whatnot and food And they have to like import everything To like central Africa You know Western Africa You have to kind of like Really budget for those hotels And the food and everything And the flights are really like

Really expensive They have almost the same amount of countries As Europe But Europe is so much cheap because it's so much smaller, like easier to get around. And plus, like, it's more modernized, industrialized. Yeah, some of those Pacific islands like Nauru, Tuvalu. I've heard of Tuvalu.

Chad. Chad. I stayed a night. I've stayed in night. I've heard of Chad. I remember you saying Chad. Chad and I stayed in night. Burkina Faso, I like, stayed in night.

I mean, there was, you know. Chad's better than Kyle. Dad joke. Yeah. I wonder if there is it The thing is, though, there's over 350 countries Like if you count territories and colonies So like Puerto Rico is owned by the U.S.,

I didn't go to Scotland or Wales Because they're owned by like the UK So there's over There's a ton of countries out there Maybe there's a personally named Kyle one Who know? Is there anywhere left that you'd want to go at this point? I want to go to the North Pole

I want to go to like French Polynesia too really bad Why the North Pole South Pole? Antarctica Because I've kind of I've been there before Been the South Pole Yeah so I kind of want to see like the north And the polar bears are not in Antarctica

Or anything Got it What was the cheapest place that you visited? Ooh I like this one Like if Graham were to go travel somewhere If I'm gonna travel Yeah where would you suggest he goes Okay

I would say like Indonesia Thailand, Vietnam, Cambodia, Lao. Lowe is really cheap. Those are very cheap countries. I think those are probably the cheapest I've been to.

And flight-wise, too, they have some really good deals where you can fly a round trip like 400 bucks and then... Wow, 400. A hotel? Luxury hotel like 80 bucks. Are you serious? Oh, yeah.

Graham knows this summer. I actually, since I've never really traveled before, I decided it was finally time to take matters into my own hands and I bought I remember this tickets to Thailand with my best friend Jack awesome and we

we bought the tickets and of course the illness is that is that refundable yeah because I bought insurance oh you did lucky it was only $550 or so for Thailand but we already booked like an Airbnb and stuff

and I was looking up a lot of the stuff about like the culture of Thailand And stuff is crazy. Like, like street food, you can go and there's just these markets with a bunch of little tents, and people just serve out the street food in, like, of the equivalent of like $1.50 for these crazy, like, time meals. Yeah. You're like living back my, wait, how old are you?

I'm 21. I thought you were in like your late 20s or so. No. I'm like, you're speaking how I was speaking. I'm like, wow, I'm like living through how I feel like I was like when I was, because it's It's true, it's true, but it's so exciting and then once you hit 30, it's like, oh, things have changed. Yeah. How is it less exciting at 30, though?

Just, I feel like you're more, for me personally, I'm more into business and less into exploration, I guess. Okay, maybe that's because you've already explored. That could be it. That's the thing. True, true, true. But I find, like, business development really exciting right now. And so when trying to connect with, like, younger people, that euphoria that they have that I used to have, I'm like, okay, bring yourself back to their cast you once were there and now you're more into like a stagnant

business boring sense which for you isn't boring no i don't know but in a way life kind of hits you over the head and then you get used to certain things and nothing is just new because because in the beginning you always have this big newness over everything it's like all the exciting possibilities and then things settle down and and it is what it is that's what i think happens you get a cat you become a You get a cat, now it's just the idea of leaving that going too far from the house. I know. I know. No, I can't leave without him anymore.

Like, if I get a free trip to, like, bore or bore, I'm like, I have to bring him with me. Yeah. And like, I got a trip to Iceland. I'm like, can I bring my, they're like, no. I'm like, well, I can't. Wow. I can't, you know, use it on someone who really wants, like, you would love to, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, I, send me, it.

Yeah, yeah. It means me with my contact. I don't want to go somewhere. from there. So, okay, so let's talk about your favorite places to go. Top five. Pakistan. Why Pakistan?

It is so different than any other country I've ever been to. It's also like, I was like, do I like India or do I like the, like, like, I love the Middle Eastern region. Like, I love it. That's my favorite region. But it's so kind of like taboo, too, to go there. I don't know how much I'm going to get into because, like, I don't know how much I'm going to because the algorithm.

Yeah. YouTube, but it's just such an interesting place, and the food is totally different from, like, India or the Middle East, and the people are so nice. Actually, you don't have to, like, wear hijab or burqa as a woman.

Like, you don't have to cover up or anything, I mean, as much. And I just found it to be a really, plus you have, like, the mountains, and, like, it's a really cool spot. The mountains in the beach, and it's, like, California is, like, the mountains in the beach,

and I just, I don't know. I love Pakistan, personally. Okay. Very interesting culture. Mongolia is another good spot. Mongolia is really pretty, I'm a nature girl. I like the barbecue. Have you had a Mongolian birthday?

Oh yeah, of course. Yeah, of course. Oh, you got to go sometime. In LA? Yeah, it's good. See, my favorite country is the US because you can find all this stuff here. Oh, I'm sure. You know, yeah. That's why it's my favorite.

Okay. But Mongolia is incredible. Yeah, I mean, I love Peru. It was definitely a top Costa Rica. Costa Rica is another top. Costa Rica is really pretty. And I really liked Oman, you know, Middle Eastern. Okay.

These are not traditional. Like I could easily just say like, you know, France or, you know, Greece or whatnot. But like these are the like non-traditional and New Zealand was a really cool one as well. It's hard to pick a top five though, honestly. It's... And what, okay, at least favorite? Yeah, what places did you not like? Okay.

Wait, can I just say this Bhutan experience? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, go for. Where is Bhutan? Bhutan is, like, right above Nepal. Some people may not know. Nepal, and, like, you have, like, in between, like, China and Nepal, Tibet and Nepal, moreover. Okay.

And they, just, like, you arrive, and there is, like, I don't know if this is YouTube-friendly, but you just go. Yeah, we'll see. Yeah, yeah. There's, like, weed growing everywhere, and they're like, oh, my tour guy, and you have to have, it's, like, $250 a day. You have to get a tour guy. He's like, look, there's like marijuana growing everywhere.

And I was like, oh, cool. He's like, we don't touch it, though. Like, we don't, we just let it grow. And then you like, the buildings, like any building you drive by, there are these beautiful, like big, gorgeous painted, like huge take up the whole building. Why? I don't know. I don't know. Yeah, why would.

It's to rid the family in that household of evil. What? I don't know. We should do that. teenagers do that all the time like the side of a building that work so do it here right beautiful painted like pictures or wow you know like all this the kids like second grade they all draw that yeah they're actually saint it's like a cloud forest it's like really beautiful over there like it's a stunning spot if you're like a really that's a really one that's a winner for

sure huh yeah wow okay so other least favorite no no that was your favorite that's a Oh, that was your favorite. That was one of my favorites. Oh, yeah. Yeah. That sounds really cool. Least favorite. I hate to the same of it.

It was Italy. Why? To this very day. Because the men. And as a woman, the men, it was a huge issue. I've never been able to get past it. No, I've been there like six times. My last name is Italian, actually.

My great grandpa was from Italy. But the men, just like the cat calling and everything. It's something that I can't get past. A lot of the workaways I did when I was younger in my early 20s was for, you know, Airbnb. Not Airbnb's didn't exist. It was like bed and breakfast and like hotels or whatever. And the owners were these like men and they just like make me do a bunch of stuff. And like it was absolutely terrible.

And it was only in Italy. Like I didn't experience that anywhere else. So yeah. But I mean for you guys, it's fine. I mean, everything else about Italy is incredible. You know, the food and everything. What about other places you didn't like? I mean, I would say

It depends on like How the not like situation is Because it's hard with what they're going through But I mean South Sudan is in a place to really visit Unless you're going to help them in Somalia So like you know those places aren't really It's a hard that's a loaded question

No no no it's like just like a place where you don't have a good time Yeah And it would make sense if they were going through something that maybe you. Yeah, yeah. I mean, Burkina Faso was a country where, like, I was, you know, I, I allocated a certain amount of funds to spend in countries where I knew that I had to be a little bit safer as a woman. So, like, with hotels or whatnot. So this one in Burkina Faso, I spent, like, 100 bucks or whatnot. And, like, it was 2 a.m. And I was, like, sleeping there, like, Nate, because I had, like, a little backpack. I didn't care. I had, like, one outfit. And a guy, like, use a

swipe key and open my room. Like, a little. opened my door, you know, at 2 a.m. And I just saw this figure. I didn't have my glass and I couldn't find them. I was about to go find him because I was like totally like bare naked. And I was like how am I. And they speak French there. And I was like, what? No, like get out of here.

Get out of here. You know, and it was like really scary because he could have totally done whatever. And I realized that he was like a part of the staff of that hotel. They were all men at the concier, like at the front desk. Everyone, like it was a man owned hotel essentially. And, um, but that was just like a hotel. Was that a mistake? That was a mistake or he did it on purpose, yeah.

And he was looking at me. But do you think that maybe he was trying to like, say, Hey, get out. Yeah, like, just like, just like. It took a few, it took a few texts. Yeah. But he left.

I think he had intentions, but he left. He left. Okay. Because I was like screaming. Wow. I mean. That's horrifying. Yeah.

I'm sorry. I don't know. Honestly, I think you can find the good in every single country. I know that sounds boring, but like, it's just like going into each country with a completely open mind and like leaving all preconceptions at the door and just like, like formulating your own experience, I think is really important. For my experience, both those experience were like coming from a woman, but you guys probably wouldn't experience though.

So it's kind of like, you know, I mean, I feel like there's no country to not, even North Korea. Like that was, that was a great experience. I mean, kind of scary. How did you even do that? Like, it's easy to go, actually. But don't you have to be monitored? Like you? Yes. Yeah. So you have like tour guides and stuff that make sure you don't act out of line. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. What questions you have prepared for us, Jack? Me? I have plenty of questions. Let's see.

Plenty of questions. Typically, I prepare questions, and we just somehow organically arrived. I know. That first one, I was like, ooh, too fresh. What? I forget the first one. I think it was about money with the trip. That's a whole other thing with that.

Why? What do you mean? Do you know what to discuss that? Oh, I can talk about it for sure, but I just don't think I was like ready to plunge into it. Oh, let's plunge into it now. Okay. So the money things. Because you're money, you're money and I want to like, I want, people want what they want.

Right. People want you to talk about money. Okay. So, yeah, so let's dive into it. Yeah. Would we, first off, I just want to stop. Would we be, I mean, close enough to the truth where we could make the title, like, how she traveled the world for free?

Or is that not true? Is that not at all? Well, because essentially, like, I had investors and sponsors, so I don't know if that's, But it didn't come out of your pocket. Only around like 10 grand did. How to travel the entire world for $10,000? Mentioned that somewhere in the video so we could use that as a title. So how much did it cost to travel the entire world?

Yeah, what was your total out of pocket costs? Out of pocket costs. Out of pocket costs. Out of pocket costs for around 10 grand. Wow. Impressive. Yeah, that's very... We came up with their title now.

Yeah. But what was this money thing that you were saying you didn't want to dive into it in the beginning? Is that this? Well, it's a whole other aspect of the expedition and travel in general. But like, so I've had two sets of travel like in my early 20s than my expedition. So we're talking about my expedition now. But it's just like there's a whole, there's so many layers to it that. Okay, I'm wildly impressed that you traveled the world for 10 grand.

If I had the opportunity to travel the world for 10 grand, I probably, I mean, not right now because of Graham. But I most definitely would otherwise. And that's very, very cool. So essentially you saved up some money from babysitting and from being a lifeguard. And then you use that money to have your initial expedition. And then you came back and decided that you wanted to travel the entire world and break a Guinness world record. No. Close though.

Okay. Close. A couple points. Very close. Very close. I would give you three out of ten on that one. You know, I just wanted to 60% to 30%. I was, well, I'm not good with math, you guys.

So maybe three out of five? Three out of five. Okay, I'll take that. Anyways, I was wrong from that. No, so I essentially took that 10 grand and started traveling the world, but I had a plan in place and I had sponsors and investors to get going with that as well. How do you get sponsors and investors?

Yeah. So I had to do a lot of networking. So I go to like sea level travel events, like travel and tourism, you know, conferences. The stuff that would like eat at me because I'm such an introvert, but I had to just go and and just pitch myself essentially as much as possible to these. Like one of them is. Yeah. Oh, sorry.

Oh, no. I had a question. Yeah. Yeah, you can go ahead. What's the return on investment? For a lot of these investors, just honestly, to be completely honest, they wanted to give to a young girl who was going after like a humanitarian thing. Well, that's nice. didn't have any money and who was like working really hard.

That's like, literally like, it was a philanthropic thing. All right, cool. And also I was like, oh, I'll promote you.

Like, they're like, no, I'm like a private. No, you do not mention my name ever. So like, no paperwork.

That's your philosophy. These few investors and I met them face to face at these events and I would like pitch them and I'd be introduced to them by like other networks that I, you know, like people. And so that's what it was. It says that you have two Guinness World Records. Yes.

On your website. What are, what's the other one? So it's, it's the, uh, fastest person to visit all sovereign nations and the fastest female to visit all sovereign nations. Person and female. Yeah. Those have been broken since. Cool.

Oh, okay. But you still have this year. Yeah. I have the plaques and everything. They can't take those away from you. No. Are those like framed and, they are totally framed. Okay.

Yeah. I mean, that way. Any, any intention of getting that back, though, of just being like, no, I'm going to do it faster. People have asked that. That's like a huge question, but you know what? If I had like, you know, two mill to do it and fly a business and like do nice, then yeah, I would do it. So do you think I could do that for $2 million and just be the fastest? How much is it going to cut? If someone watching this right now is being like, now, I'm going to get that record. How much would it cost?

100 grand. You could do it. You could do it for 100 grand, but the thing is there's so many variables, like your passport, and if you can get the visa. That's dependent on the embassy. Like literally, I had to go back and forth to the Pakistani embassy like five times. Be like, please, please issue me this visa. And Turkmenistan is like a guessing game. Like they deny just random people. Couldn't you tell them about this or would that make it worse?

Sometimes it makes it way worse. They're like, no, we don't want to be a part of this American Trump girl. Yeah, okay. Are you allowed to use a trip advisor? Like, yeah. Yeah, I use TripAdvisor a lot. Trip advisor or a trip advisor? Because aren't those separate?

Yeah, yeah. Like a trip planner? So yeah, I had that for some of my visas for sure. Yeah. Okay. Santa's Vagabond. Because that would probably take care of a lot of it. They would help.

They help with a lot of visas, yeah. I feel like getting like Expedia, like booking.com or something like that would be a great. Yeah. I went to, one of the summits I went to in between my expedition was a world travel and tourism council summit. And I was flying back. I got sponsored there to fly business. It was my first time ever flying business class, okay? And I was super excited.

On the way back, it was in Madrid. My seatmate was the CEO of Expedia at the time. His name began with the D. I don't remember. I'm really bad with names. True. He was sitting next me. I was like, I've been wanting to pitch this guy.

The whole weekend he was on my list. I've been wondering. So I'm like trying to stay chill. But I was so hungover from our last night. They got me really wild up. Wow. But the whole time I was back and forth between the time. toilet on the plane.

I didn't have enough energy to even pitch myself to this guy. And we were right next to each other. It was a huge loss. Why did you drink? That's why grandma and I don't. Yeah, we don't mess with that stuff. They wanted me to. What do you mean they wanted you? You just say you don't drink.

The, the owner of the, you know, his son and like, they're like, oh, I'll introduce you and hear some more. And I'm like, listen, I'm a second. You can't not comply. You can say, it's hard in Madrid to like, but you. Where there's like, try the wine. But you have one drink, two masks. That's it.

Listen, I'm not good with it. I'm not good with it. It's really bad, but I'm not good with that. And that totally messed up that deal because then he just, I think he bought out like orbits too. And I was like, missed opportunity. You know what? You live on another flight, though. I was like waiting in line for the bathroom in economy.

And this guy was behind me. And this was like also right before my expedition. I was like, hey, you look like that guy Toby from the office. No. And I was drinking too, so I was also more open speaking. Yeah. This is when it actually helped me. Wow. And he's like, yeah, I'm Paul Lieberstein. Yeah, from Toby from the office.

I was like, hey, I'm going this expedition around the world. Would you be interested in like being a supporter on it? He's like, yeah, for sure, sending the information. So he was a supporter on my, so I ended up garnering these supporters. That is so cool. You know, that wouldn't like contribute anything, but they'd just be like on my website, which was really cool. That's neat.

Yeah. Wow. Toby. Okay. I like Toby. Yeah, good guy. He's awesome. Yeah, he's awesome.

Yeah, he's awesome. Is he the same personality in person? He's a little more chill. I don't know. He's more chilling for it. Like, he seems so relaxed. He was so relaxed, though. Yeah.

I would say he's pretty similar. Hey, hey, guys. Yeah. Yeah, like that. Yeah, like that. No, he had a little more personality. Okay. Hey, Cassie.

No, he was chill, though. He was chill. He was chill and honestly, in economy, I was like, look back and be like, huh? Yeah. That's cool. Wait, so he was flying economy. I guess so.

Wow. It was like Delta. That's cool. You know, I saw, I was actually on a flight coming from, where was it? It was either, I think it was Canada, Toronto. And up in first class was that guy from two and a half men, not Charlie Sheen, but the other guy. Huh.

I never watched it. Yeah, I feel like I know who you're talking about. He shaved his head and now he's a villain. Oh, the Austin Powers guy? No. No, it's Mike Myers. Dude, no, no, the villain Austin Powers. That's Mike Myers.

What? Yes, he plays the same character. That's the whole point in the movie. Are you serious? Do you not know that? The million dollars guy? Yes. Dr. Evil?

That's all him. He plays like most of the characters in the movie. This is real, guys. I don't know. Don't ask me. Are you serious? How am I supposed to know that? They look completely different.

That's the point of makeup. Is it? John Cryer. John Cryer is who I flew on a plane with that guy. Oh yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah. John Cryer.

But come on, man. Look, Mike Myers. Mike Myers' characters. It looks completely different. Who stays and watches the credits to see, like, Dr. Evil. Mike Myers. Awesome. They sound the same.

He was also. fat bastards. Did you think that was an actor too? Like a different actor? He thought that was like not him. Wow. Yeah. He plays a whole series. You see, you're surprised. Yeah, I don't know. He also plays Mini Me. No, he doesn't.

That's Fern Troyer. I know that's that's someone else. I'm kidding. Kidding. That was a joke. But yeah, no, those are all of his characters. It looks the same. No, it doesn't. Yes, they do. The face. Does that face? That looks like Mike Myers' face. The eyes.

The eyes. Oh my God. Oh my God. It does, though. It really does. The eyes. You can't even see the eyes in that picture. You can't even see the eyes.

It's just a blur. Just saying those are all of his characters. It's like Eddie Murphy playing all these characters in The Nutty Professor. I know, Tanna. When I actually, the last travel I went on was in March and I was coming back from British Columbia to L.A. And I was in business because it was for his speaking engagement. And like one of the guys like got up and like started like, like, packing up all this toilet paper.

And I, like, made a joke because I'd had some wine. And obviously, because it makes you more open. I'm starting out there are positive. It's just like, hmm, that's some wine. Okay. Otherwise, you wouldn't say this and no one did. I was like, well, that's a lot of toilet paper. And everyone turned to me and they're like,

because they were all, like, wanting to say something to him, I guess. I guess he was a really big actor. I couldn't tell you who he was right now because I forgot. But, like, I didn't know. But, like, they all did everyone in, like, business first, You're probably saying what everyone else wanted to say. And then they all picked up on my conversation with him and the toilet paper. Why you have so much toilet paper?

Because it was the quarantine. And so he's like my wife in L.A. They were out. So he had to bring it back. So he had to defend himself. I was like, it's okay. It's okay. It's my wife.

Not me. Yeah. Okay. Have you ever traveled out of the country, Graham? Canada. Oh, of course. Canada and Mexico. Okay, cool.

Yeah, that's it. So I haven't left the continent, though. Okay. Well, technically, I've been to Canada. in Mexico. I went to Alaska and I think there was a layover or something. Probably. But I was 10 and I don't remember. I literally think we were only in the airport in Canada and then there was a cruise down to Mexico that I'd want it was like five but I don't think we ever actually docked. So okay. Technically I have been out of the country. I'm quite exotic.

All right. Cool. Yeah. Well it takes money you know and it takes you know time off of work. Time. That's all. Unless you can travel influencer. Unless you could. Unless you could freeze time and just go and travel and come back and not missing it. Yeah, it's just the time aspect of it. Where would you go? Probably Australia. Fiji. Snorkeling spots. I love to do

snorkeling spots. Your big aquarium reef kind of... Yeah, yeah. So the Great Barrier Reef, Fiji, I think. What's the one, the Maldives? Oh, I was just going to say Maldives or Seychelles, but like Marathon Bives. Yeah. Stuff like that. Beachy, Trom.

tropical places where I can go scuba diving. And if you guys ever need someone to watch your cat, you know. Deal. Deal. There's a cat lady here. Yeah. So can you tell us now? I think this is a good segue into how much you spend every month.

Oh, my God. Do you drink Starbucks? No, I make my own coffee from home. Okay. So how much do you spend every month? And then where do you waste your money? And then how much do you make every month? Your household income, net worth credits.

I was not prepared for any of it. Oh, and then how much money you have in investments and how much this make you every year? Have you created the market consistently? Oh, my God. I'm just a travel girl. Your best investment and your worst investment. Go. Oh, no.

No, there's a lot of, yeah. I'm not, I will say as much as I'm not proud, I'm not a money girl. Okay. I'm not, I wasn't right, like, my parents weren't good with money. We didn't grow up with a lot of money. It was kind of like we never really learned about money. And so I was just making not a lot of, like around like I said, like 40 grand, babysitting, you know. And then so I didn't really start making money until around three years ago, you know, like 27 when this all finished.

And suddenly I was like in the, you know, six figure ish up range. And I want to be that because I feel like. Yeah, sure. Yeah, yeah. But, um, and it just like went from zero to nothing. And I was like, how do I manage this? first of all, I have to invest it into the business. Like everything has gone into the business the past few years.

And so it wasn't really until like the past really quarantine that I was like, oh, stocks. I was like, I'm looking into trading and day trading. And I'm like, oh, maybe I should do. And then your videos, I'm like, ooh, I should maybe look at some stocks in investing. So I'm like, I'm not. Are you budgeting now? Yeah, I budget.

You start to budget. I budget. For sure. For sure. What's your savings rate? My savings rate? Percentage of you. Yeah, what percentage you're saving based off of income?

20%. 20% of like each paycheck. Okay. Should be higher. Well, it depends. I'm sure it should be. Well, okay. So we're talking about investing too.

Yeah, okay. Should be 30. We're going to get that to 30%. 30%. I can get there. Okay. Yeah. I feel like I'm just so new with like making a good amount of money that I'm like,

I've had to just focus on growing the business. and I haven't really thought about it because I wasn't really educated on that. You know, like investing. And so now I'm doing like real land development and just really. I'm growing in like many ways, but to invest. If you get a better ROI investing in yourself and your business, it only makes sense to continue doing that. Where do you waste money?

I may air one. I guess I'm going to go. I'm going to go to Airwon. I've got to go to Arrowwon. You've told them about this before. And Equinox, too. Yeah, Equinox is, yeah. You closed your membership.

Yeah, well, they've been, yeah, they've been closed. I feel like that was a waste of money. No, not if you go every day. If you go every day, but they put all memberships on hold starting March. Yeah, I can't sell. But Aeroon is the biggest waste of money. That, that, I think, is a scam store. What percentage premium do you pay just based off?

On Arrow one? Are you a member? Yeah. What, Equinox are a member? The ride that steals the spotlight every time it hits the road, that's the Volkswagen Tiguan. Its sleek exterior makes a first impression you can't ignore. Step inside to find available full leather seats and wood accents.

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I've been in the store a few times just to look at the prices. Double. Oh, you haven't eaten them? Double, so it's double. 100% premium. Yeah, yeah. I remember, I walked in there, and they had like a little thing of watermelon, like this size, just fill with watermelon slices.

It's like $9. Yeah. Like to buy a full watermelon is maybe like three bucks. Yeah. And you're getting a tenth of a watermelon. Yes, for $9. And they also had these like pre-made sandwiches that you would think. In any normal store would cost, like $4, 5 bucks.

These sandwiches was like $16 for a little pre-made sandwich. Why don't you just go to a restaurant and get a sandwich that's totally twice as good? What were they doing was the juices. They had like this juice cleanse thing. These little shots of things are five, six bucks. Or like these smoothies for like $12. It's, it's, and everything is insane. They just, wow.

Oh, and the chocolates. They had these like $7 chocolate ever. How did they get away with that? Because people with money. Is it quality good? Or is it just. want to feel superior and they want to be like I'm getting the highest quality stuff I like money can possibly guy money is no object but what they're really getting is ripped off that's that's what

they're getting it's true I've spent 150 I've spent 450 dollars on a bag of of groceries at airwant yeah and they would fit one third the bag because the supplements and everything there and then I go to Trader Joe's and for 130 you get like eight bags oh yeah that's the only place I go now in Calabas is yeah Trader Joe's is good but Not Aeroon. And even Aeroon, sometimes some of the,

most of them I think have valet. So you could go and valet your car at the grocery store. It's fancy. Oh, I've never been there. Oh, yeah.

You're 21. Yeah. I mean, part of me wants to go there and film it, but I have a feeling if we walk in with a camera. We should do a trip to Arawan.

Okay. You should do that. That'd be really interesting. Reaction. Oh, my God. You, that means Millionaire reacts to Aeroon. We could do that.

But the thing is you go in with a camera, you'll for sure get kicked out. out, you would have to do it so indiscreetly with like an iPhone or something. And the Palisades one is a really good one to do that, I'd say. Okay. Yeah, that's a good one.

Okay. Put that on the to-do list. Waste of money. But yeah, that's a splurge for sure. Yeah. We could just do that with an iPhone. That could be an episode on like a weekend. Go to Arawan and just react.

Just rip on Aeroon. Every time after Equinox, like, I would go. That's combining, like, two the most expensive things. Like, after Equinox go to. Spes a day. Plus, you'd have to pay for parking at Akronox if you're over like two hours. It's like, I'd always like be there for like two hours. You don't have to pay for parking if you're over two hours. You do have to pay for parking.

Yeah. In Santa Monica. You have to. Were you, do you go the one in Santa Monica? Yeah. It was like, you'd have to pay like over two hours. Oh, you have to pay it. Why wouldn't they give you free parking if you're paying like 200?

It's free for two hours. I know, right? Up to two hours. Wow. If you're going to shower or if you want to like to a bunch of whatever. If you're really muscular, if you're Graham, you know, you want to stay there for one and two hours. I spent all day there, yeah. I break the machines and I'm on them.

You go is until they break. Actually, Shelby just, she just sold me on that machine. Oh, that. Oh, yeah, okay, cool. The $2,000 one? I know, but I'm not that. Well, I need weights and, like, I can't find them anywhere online. It's like, for a whole set, it's like 2000.

I'm like, okay, well. You know what you got to do? May as well. Is you got to join Graham and I, because we go on these runs every day. Oh, yeah, we do. And we run to a childhood. We run to a children's playground This is every day

And we do pull-ups on the monkey bars or whatever It's empty There's no one there They're closed But you just walk I mean There's literally a game There's no one there

There's no one there's no one there's There's no one there's do pull-ups on a children's playground It's good though But you do different Like the pull-ups at different lengths And you do the other ones Yeah he's good

That's a good back workout And then you get a run at the same time Oh Just go to a children's program I have everything you need Yeah That's a good Yeah, I should think about whatever, I've already bought it.

Too late. Let's do this. Let's ask the duck horse question. You'll end it. Okay. So the last question we leave everyone with. It's probably going to cause many nights of sleeplessness. Would you rather fight 100 duck-sized horses or one horse-sized duck?

I'd probably do the big duck. You'd rather the one big duck. Why? because I know some Krav Maga And I feel like I could take it Crovmaga Okay All right

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