The Iced Coffee Hour - Meet The Billionaire Who Makes $60,000 Per Year | Bobby Misner

Episode Date: May 23, 2022

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome back to the iced coffee hour, and today we're having on Bobby Mizner. Now, Bobby was infamous from a video he posted about three years ago titled Life of a Billionaire's Son, where he showcased the lifestyle of growing up with a billion dollars. A viral video with tons of women, private jets, and all of these other luxuries that is completely detached from your and my reality. Exactly. So that's why we got to have him on the iced coffee hour and confront him about what it's like to grow up as a billionaire's son. Enjoy it. And also, big thanks to FTXUS for sponsors.
Starting point is 00:00:30 this episode. If you guys want to trade crypto and NFTs with no fees whatsoever, which is pretty unheard of, check out FTX with the link down below in the description and also Ethos Life Insurance. If you guys are looking to site it for life insurance, ethos is the best. They're super fast and easy. Check them out in the link down below in the description. Let's begin. What's up guys? I'm Bobby Miznor. Welcome to the iced coffee hour podcast. So far, they have generated over $2 million in ad cents revenue. Where did you get that number from? Did you? Was it? Wait, one more time. One more time.
Starting point is 00:01:01 No, no, no, no, that was good. That was fine. Let's know, yeah. It's great, guys. We've made about $203,000. Yeah, $203,000. Yeah. Close. I just figured you guys had a super high CPM because of, like, you're talking about finance and stuff.
Starting point is 00:01:14 We, gosh. Not that, not that high. Yeah. Yeah, it's pretty good. But anyway, man, thank you so much for coming all the way out to Las Vegas. Happy birthday, by the way. It was just the other day? Yeah, it was just yesterday.
Starting point is 00:01:26 Thank you very much. I am now 27. So I have a whole year to survive. without joining the 27 clubs. I'm going to be taking it very easy. All right. Yeah, you might want to scale back on some of the parties,
Starting point is 00:01:35 you know, the fast lifestyle. Maybe read a book. Watch some YouTube. Slow cars, you know. Yeah, exactly. Be in the backseat. But anyway, man,
Starting point is 00:01:45 thank you so much for coming out. And no joke, I have seen, I've watched almost all of your videos since the very first one you posted, the life of a billionaire son. Yeah. And I remember, you posted that video,
Starting point is 00:01:57 and I got like 3 million views. in what probably seems like two days. It got, it went, yeah, it got to two million in a week. But it was like crazy because I, I was just like there, like this kid, like thinking, like, oh, I'm going to go viral, I'm going to go viral, like, thinking like all this shit. Like, everyone's like, what are you doing? You're getting like 100 views. And I was like, you guys don't get it.
Starting point is 00:02:17 Like, you guys don't get it. Like, my life's cool. You're going to see it. And then, like, six months after trying to make videos, I made that. I had like, you know, a thousand subscribers, 500 of them fake. And all of a sudden, I just start to view. video just starts going crazy so it gets like 50k in a couple of days and then it gets a couple hundred thousand then it goes Friday and we go out we're celebrating and I wake up in the morning and a million
Starting point is 00:02:37 overnight so it was like two mil and that's without anyone making a reaction video and then all of a sudden everyone just starts like making videos on it on like on the home page and it was just crazy how did you grow up who is your father what did you do and how is that changed about the last few years um so i grew up with my single mom. Most of my parents were divorced when I was like, you know, like three or four years old. They were already divorced, so I didn't really know anything else.
Starting point is 00:03:06 They were with my mom and my older sister. My dad would sometimes come to visit, give me birthday presents, basically. It'd come like once a year because he was very busy building his company. And then, so I was always like going to private schools and stuff, but I never was like one of the spoiled kids who had a bunch of stuff.
Starting point is 00:03:22 I was always very, like, wearing secondhand clothes and shoole shoes. and never had any cool toys or anything, right? Except for my dad, would give me a birthday present. What would a birthday present look like? Was he wealthy back then? Yeah, he was still, he was still, you know, he was making money,
Starting point is 00:03:39 but he wasn't like extraordinarily, like, wealthy. Do you know what I'm saying? Compared to now? Compared to now. Oh, okay, but he's still like... He was still worth, you know, like $20 million. Okay, okay. But I had no idea, right?
Starting point is 00:03:51 Yeah, sure. What would the presents be? That's a good question. Yeah, the presents would be like a game console or... or had like a quad bike, it would always be something cool. Okay. You know,
Starting point is 00:04:02 which would make up for the fact that he wasn't there. I was just like a materialistic kid. Yeah, I got a quad bike. All right. So, I mean, it was interesting growing up,
Starting point is 00:04:14 though, with all these rich kids, knowing that my dad was, had money, but I just wasn't living with him or didn't have any of that lifestyle or ever go on a holiday or anything. Okay. I was always just at home.
Starting point is 00:04:25 So when I was like 50, and I was in, I was in German international school, international school in Germany. And then I was getting kicked out. I wasn't allowed to continue. I'd been kicked out of a bunch of schools already. And then my dad, like,
Starting point is 00:04:38 sells his company for $300 million. And he's like, he just shows me like a bank statement. I was at the house. He just put it in the bet and he shows me a bank statement. It was like cash. And he's like,
Starting point is 00:04:47 in his bank account. So $300 million cash in his bank account? And he had, before he sold the company, he'd made residency in Dubai. So what did your dad do? exactly i knew he's in the music industry correct yeah yeah yeah so he started off in the music industry he was like a sound engineer and a guitar player um and then he started realized that nobody was
Starting point is 00:05:08 teaching how to be a music producer or a sound engineer or anything like that it was no way to learn you just had to like get an internship so he started teaching he was working as a sound engineer and then he'd start teaching after he'd finish work and just have people come in um and then that's sort of how he started making money then he bought this studio called studio 301 and then he started making those of schools and I don't know I mean I was just a kid so they started expanding expanding globally but it was a school that he he made was like a creative media college and it was like the biggest one in the world and then eventually just he sold all of it but he kept a real estate so like they still like rent it from him so 300 million dollars what year was
Starting point is 00:05:45 this like how old were you when that happened um I was 15 yeah and so when he shows you a bank statement how does that register for you at 15 is it just well my dad's a big flex he's a flex yeah okay you know he likes he likes to flex you know he made all these money on his own so it's like it's it's cool it's very cool for him so you know i don't know it was just it was like wow i was like my dad's hella rich now that's what that's what that's going through mine my dad's rich now i was like did you feel entitled to that did you feel like some of that's mine too um definitely okay i think it was like a big learning curve going because like i get thrown into boarding school there's probably 50 other kids there with 100 million plus
Starting point is 00:06:26 families. All of a sudden it becomes like this big dick contest. Like people all everyone Google to everyone's family is at boarding school. Everyone knows who everyone is. And if your parents are like super loaded, you're part of a certain group. What group were you a part of? Like who are the parents of those kids? Like the rich kids, but like the bad ones, like the ones who would just party and not really do anything. Is that how you got kicked out of the school? That's how I ended up getting kicked out. Yeah. Okay. Who were their parents? Are they? Yeah. Yeah. So like one of my best friend, Charlie Brake. He went on Love Island. Actually, his parents. parents are in breaks, which is a huge catering company in the UK.
Starting point is 00:07:00 Okay. My other boy Henry Lloyd. They're in like Lloyd Motors, big, biggest BMW dealership in the north. And yeah, like all, everyone would just be like super loaded. Um, and then you just like basically all your, your objective is, it's to spend your entire allowance. Really? Um, by going to London for an exeat weekend. You get like one per month or something.
Starting point is 00:07:19 You can go to London for a Saturday night because you got Saturday school. And that was really the objective was going out and getting bottles and nobody had IDs. You had to pay an extra $100 to this promoter who I won't in, but you have to pay him extra hundred dollars and you get in. It was fun. What were most allowances like at that age? You know, most kids, it depends. Like I said, like that circle of like these really, really rich kids, they would be getting like a lot more money than me. So it was a lot of like me, like they knew who my dad was, but my dad is self-made. So he didn't like throw me cash and stuff like this and just let me have whatever I want. So I was always like part of it.
Starting point is 00:07:56 But then also having to like sort of black like like like what but how big of an allowance would they get? They would get like anywhere between five and 10,000 a month while they're at school. Oh my gosh. Yeah. Jeez. There was this kid. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:09 He, his parents like owned like McDonald's and Caterpillar in Egypt. He came into my house, my boarding house. And he had like no clothes like really like just whatever clothes. I get assigned as like his bigger brother or like to look after him and show him to school for like the first couple days and um he's like what are you wearing i was like d'olchargabana like that was the thing to have and he's like he's like okay cool and then like he comes back next a week the entire collection he just has the entire collection in this room like who the f f f is this kid he's like he goes by but he's just like the richest he's probably
Starting point is 00:08:41 the richest person i know in the world now how much would that cost to buy the entire what does that consist of like that of that season and 50k probably yeah because the he just had He just had cash. He just, he said he would run, it didn't have any cards either because he came from like Egypt at the time it looked a lot of stuff going on. So he always had cash.
Starting point is 00:09:02 Sometimes he'd run out and he'd ask me if I could like lend him 20 to go to the tuck shop in our house and you get candy. Because he wouldn't, he couldn't withdraw cash. So he has to go back home, get his money and then, you know what I'm saying? Was that a compliment that you said Dulcine Gabana
Starting point is 00:09:16 and he's just like, all right, I'm going to do that to fit him? You influenced him a little bit. Yeah. Big brother right there. Yeah. Had you said any other brand, he'd be buying them. You should have joked with them and be like, yeah, it's H&M. And he would have spent like a thousand dollars instead by the entire collection.
Starting point is 00:09:34 I have a question about, you know, money and happiness for you, Bobby. One, do you think that money can buy you happiness? And then, you know, you mentioned your dad was working and you only got like a gift or two or whatever. would you trade, you know, and not like a complete swap, but like would you trade maybe a little bit less money for a little bit more of your dad's presence growing up? Hmm. I would have.
Starting point is 00:10:08 So maybe start with the first one. It helps you think about it a little bit. So do you think money can buy you happiness? Yeah. So I mean, I think money can definitely buy you the ability to have enough time to be happy. It's like figure out how to be happy, right? like what makes you happy and all that because if you just don't have any money, I feel like the only thing you can,
Starting point is 00:10:25 thinking about is like how to get money and how to eat and like pay your rent and everything. So I think if you're just worrying about those things all the time, it's kind of hard to be happy because you're just worried. You know what I'm saying? So I think money definitely buys you freedom and time. And then after that, it's like about, you know, there's so many ways to figure out what makes you happy, you know, whether that's partying and then you figure out that's not it.
Starting point is 00:10:47 And then it's a girl. But I think, you know, it's, it's always up and down, but money definitely gives you the freedom and the time to find happiness. And then what about the second question? I think even if it's like, you know, let's say he made 50 mil less. Yeah. But, you know, you got to see him, let's say once a month or something. You know, or, you know, it could be even just a little bit.
Starting point is 00:11:11 Or would you leave it exactly, you know, how it was? I think I'd leave it how it was. I mean, I think it's, he made a big sacrifice to make all that money. You know what I mean? I think he wanted he wanted more than anything to have a family because he grew up an only child. So, and he wanted to look after his family and he knew that money was obviously super important. And he wanted, you know, I think he wanted to set it up so that we're good for generations to come. Which I, I think I wouldn't have, I wouldn't have traded more seeing my dad more for, you know, a couple hundred million less.
Starting point is 00:11:41 Why would I do that? You know what I'm saying? Because me and my dad, we think the same anyway at the end of the day. You know what I mean? I'm going to send my kid to boarding school when he's fucking 12 years old. Now, how much of an allowance did you get? When they're getting $5,000, $10,000 a month? Yeah, I was getting like $1,200 a month. Okay.
Starting point is 00:11:58 Pounds. How would you spend that? I'd spend it pretty stupidly, yeah. Like, either, like, you know, try buy, like, one thing that was designer and then go out clubbing. Because you wouldn't spend any money when you're in school, you know. Do you think, though, the boarding school kind of amplified all of that? Like, if you went to a non-boarding school, do you think there would be, that like competition.
Starting point is 00:12:21 Yeah. It's like who's spending the most. Yeah, I think boring school definitely amplifies the whole rich kids scene thing like a lot. And everyone's on their own. So everyone's sort of like you're just listening to whatever else is saying. And that's how you'll figure out like what's important and what's not. Right. But I think it also gives you a good deal of independence by going there.
Starting point is 00:12:41 You know what I'm saying? Because you're doing your own laundry. You're looking after yourself. You have to do your own home where you're going to do everything yourself. Your parents aren't there to look after you and pick all the pieces. You know what I'm saying? And the house parents are very strict that make you like be disciplined and everything.
Starting point is 00:12:53 Is that why? I never understood boarding school because I guess like in L.A. It's either you go to a public or private school. And that's really it. I don't know anybody that went to a boarding school. Is that just not common as much in the U.S.? Or like what's the advantage?
Starting point is 00:13:06 Why? Or is it because the parents just like want more time off? What's the? I think it's just super prestigious. And like when you go there, you make a lot of connections for life. You know what I'm saying? For me,
Starting point is 00:13:20 know, and I'm still very good friends with a lot of people from my school, and a lot of them are doing incredible things and are in very powerful positions. So I think it's very much so about connections. There's why people go to these prestigious boarding schools is to put their kids around other kids who are, you know, from super wealthy families. And they know that are, that's how you get, that's how you're going to get up in life. You know what I'm saying is by having the right connections. That's what I always been taught. So, do you know how much boarding school cost? It's like 33,000 pounds a year? Like 45 grand. Yeah. There's some that are ridiculous like in Switzerland. I was that was told either you go to Switzerland or England and I was like, I'm not going to be like freezing cold
Starting point is 00:14:01 and like speaking German. So I went to England. But there's some Swiss school like Le Rose. Which is like, you know, I think it's like 150,000 a year or something. What's the process like to get in? Because I take it like even if you have the money, they're not just to be like, all right, come on in. Yeah, it depends on the school. Like there are like eaten. and harrow which are all boys schools and there's a couple others which are like top top top schools where all the kids get a's and everything but you to get in there you have to you have to go there when you're 13 you can't like go there later or anything like the school that i went to is millfield is like the biggest sporting school so they have a lot of kids there in scholarship so the rest of it
Starting point is 00:14:39 but it's such a big school that they fill the rest of the spaces up no matter what so they just let that's where all the screw ups kind of go would you say it provided you with a better education I think it definitely provided me with no because I didn't I didn't do enough I wasn't I wasn't doing my homework and stuff like this but I think it definitely provided me with independence at an earlier age than then then if I didn't go and having an inside look on so many children of extremely wealthy people what is some stereotype or something that you've noticed that just completely differs these types of people from the average person I'd say a lot of them, I don't know. I don't really know. Do you notice a difference between those types of people?
Starting point is 00:15:26 Yeah, I mean, it's definitely like their manners, often very polite, the people like my friends that went to boarding school. You know, there's obviously like an essence of them be more pretentious than a lot of people. There's a lot of things that I, I don't really, I don't really care about doing luck stuff. I don't care where I sleep or anything like that. I'm very, very easy going with Australian at the end of the day. So I'm saying. So I don't really care what I'm doing. or if it's luxe or not. But some of them are like, almost like afraid of like doing something that isn't nice or staying somewhere that isn't nice.
Starting point is 00:15:59 Do you know what I mean? Which I always find like kind of lame. Like I don't really care. You know what I mean? So you can crash on a friend's house. You don't, you don't care in on a couch somewhere. Best Western. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:09 Yeah. Motel 6. Okay. Yeah. Why did you get kicked out? What happened there? Um, well, I'd been kicked out of a lot of schools already. And then what happened at Millfield was I already had like a bad track record for the most of the year. I was there for two years, the last two years of school, the senior senior school.
Starting point is 00:16:31 I had a really bad track record. I'd been messing around, you know, skipping school, doing this at the other. So I was on a red report card, which basically means like you have to, every single class, you have to get the teacher to sign it to say that you were very well behaved, you did your work, you did your prep. But when you're at house, it's just like you're on like very thin ice. And then at that point, it was my birthday, which is around exams time in May 6th. Yesterday was like the same time exams are happening.
Starting point is 00:16:58 And I was like, I told my parents that it was a public holiday on Monday. And I got my mom's email. So I start emailing the headmistress. And I'm saying like, yeah, I got a visa appointment in Germany that I have to like go to. And all this. And then me and my boy, Henry and Charlie were going to go. but my boy Charlie like freaked out last minute didn't come. So it was just me and Henry
Starting point is 00:17:19 went down to my dad's yacht in Monaco. And we're just on that. We went out in Cannes. We went to Monaco. We saw this guy like lose a million in in like maybe 10 minutes right next to us. It was insane. Just gambling. Just gambling. Just lost it.
Starting point is 00:17:34 I was like, okay. He's like, didn't care. So I mean, it was pretty fun. You know, jet skiing and everything. This was when Snapchat was big. Instagram didn't have stories yet. So everyone at school starts seeing that we're just in Central Bay and starts talking and everyone's talking about it.
Starting point is 00:17:48 We get back and like, it's just in huge trouble. And they're like, this is the last straw. I go into the office with the headmistress and the headmaster. And they're like basically saying like, yeah, like we're going to, like they ask you to leave. Right. They never expel kids from from these kind of schools unless it's drugs. So they're like trying to ask me to leave. And I was like, no, like, I think I'll stay.
Starting point is 00:18:08 That sounds like me. No, no, I'm good. Jack. She's like, make the decision. And I was like, yeah, I think I'll stay. I can be, I can be dual my work. It's fine. I'll stay.
Starting point is 00:18:17 I'll stay. And then she's like, wrong answer. And I was like, oh, it's not like a choice thing, is it? We're asking you to leave now. What would happen if you just didn't and be like, no, I'm not, you know. I couldn't. I couldn't. But she said, like, if I did that, then I make one mistake.
Starting point is 00:18:33 And she said, then you're expelled. And then that's on your, on your thing. Did these teachers or headmasters say, ever get any, like, nice gifts from, like, you know, the families of the kids that were there? at all? I don't know about gifts, but I'm, I know that, you know, some, some families would donate like a building or something. And then that kid would just be allowed to do whatever they want. Okay. That's the end of the game. Were there any repercussions of you going out and maybe getting expelled from these schools or suspended or whatever and getting in trouble? Did your parents ever
Starting point is 00:19:02 get upset at you? Um, my mom was like, she thinks that I was just so amazing. So it was always like, I would get away with it and because I was just living with my mom. Um, and she would never tell my dad. she never would tell my dad that I was getting in trouble or anything until like the very end when I got like expelled and then like my dad had this big talk with me and it was just like a very like real like talk about like what are you doing like where are you going when that was that time that you went to monica that you got like expelled yeah okay what was that talk like it was pretty hectic yeah because i've never really like have talks so when he talks to me it means a lot because he doesn't ever like sort of try to push me in any direction or anything he's very careful about that because he knows that you know maybe on just going to do the other, the opposite. But I think this is a very, very powerful talk. And definitely, like, made me realize what do I, what I actually wanted to do and what, what I needed to do, which wasn't to go to university, basically.
Starting point is 00:19:57 I was like, I'm not going to, that's just going to be a waste of time for me, the end of the day. So I was like, you know, I need to figure it out. Started working in a bar in Australia. And then I came back, started working with my dad. And then that's when I later on started, I was like, I want to make YouTube videos. How was that working at a bar? Wouldn't you look at that and be like, I was making this allowance and I'm like,
Starting point is 00:20:15 I'm making less at the bar than my buddy's getting for an allowance. No, so I was in Australia. Yeah. So you earn a lot of money. How much are you making it at the bar? I was making like a thousand dollars a week. Yeah, but still less than, you know, the other guy's allowance. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:28 Like, did that bother you at all that like you're working at a hard? I think when I was younger it did. But once I got to like 21, I sort of, um, actually when I got to 20, I got just like 21, my dad gave me a lot of money to like buy an apartment. I kept it for a year or something and I sold it. And then I just had like, you know, probably $700,000 in my bank account. And I was like, I'm going to go to L.A. And it was gone. All 700,000. It's just gone. It's gone. It's gone. It's gone. It's gone. It's all gone.
Starting point is 00:21:03 It took me like a year. Yeah. How? $700,000 in a year. Yeah. That's still, I mean, $2,000 a day. Yeah. I was just, where is it going? Whoa, I, you know, it's when you're,
Starting point is 00:21:14 bottle service? I'm getting, yeah, I'm guessing rent, bottle service. I wasn't getting rent because I wasn't paying rent. I was saying an Airbnb's hotels. Oh,
Starting point is 00:21:23 I was flying around like business class. I mean, you could spend a thousand dollars in a hotel anyway. I would, instead of canceling my flight, I'd just miss it and book another one. And I'd take girls on trips to like New York or what I was, I was just like, I just thought that it was,
Starting point is 00:21:36 I just had like so much. money and you realize that it isn't a lot of money when did you realize that it wasn't a lot of money um when it kind of like ended after a year it was just like wow like when it was when it was getting down to what like when it was like when it was like when it was like 40,000 that's when it really slowed down you were just like oh I probably made that other the last 40,000 stretch like another six months yeah why wouldn't you just call your dad me like hey you know my bad yeah because he was just went too fast he was upset he was like he's like you're a idiot you know but wouldn't you see that like the writings on the wall like the first month that you're spending all this money
Starting point is 00:22:12 does he didn't really know he just kind of gave it to you and he was like hey do your things be responsible yeah he didn't really like yeah i mean it was also kind of like a big learning curve as well i think he wanted me to realize you know that you know that it's not that much money at the end of the day if you want to start living like that um which was a big it was a big like realization you know what i'm saying and i think now i definitely have a lot more respect for money I'm definitely like a lot more focused on earning it very, like I don't spend at like I always try to like not spend and always try to buy the cheapest thing and all this stuff. So like I think it definitely helped me because I sort of realized like I want to be rich again. First we got to thank our sponsor, Ethos.
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Starting point is 00:23:56 So what happened when you got down to that last 40? Was your dad giving you any more money, or was he just like you got to find a way to make it work? I was still had like, yeah, no, he wasn't really giving me any money. But then that's when I popped off because I was coming down to the end of the money. And I was like, I need to do something. And I made that Life of a Billionaire Sun video. And it worked. And then all of a sudden, I got a job working, like, filming a festival for Disney.
Starting point is 00:24:22 And then I was working for French Montana. Wow. Wait, did you produce that video yourself? Which one? Life of a billion. Is that brand? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:30 Yeah. It was all, it was the whole story and all the, all. Everything was like me, but then Brandon at a time just like helped me sound like, at the end he would come in and he was like, he would like look at what I was saying and he would, I had to make a little bit shorter. And he came up with the part where I said, the rich kid stereotype and how I wanted to break that.
Starting point is 00:24:51 Because it was something else, it was something different before that. So like he came up with that part. How much that video make you like ad sense? Nothing because it was all I used like super copyrighted music. Oh, that's right. Because here's the thing, like, I don't go, like, for me, it's like, I want to see that video in like 50 years from now and be like, wow, that's still sick. I don't want to look back and be like, wow, that stock music's really cool.
Starting point is 00:25:13 I'm glad I used the stock music. You know what I mean? I'm going to be a billionaire. Like, why am I worried about making $20,000 off something that I want just to be a cool video forever, you know? Why do you say you're going to be a billionaire? How? Well, I'm going to inherit it at some point, you know. Well, let's get there, but, but you said you got deals with like Disney and stuff?
Starting point is 00:25:32 How did that happen? Montana. Well, the video just started going off. Yeah. This guy, I know he owns a big, like, a digital marketing company. And he was like, yeah, these French company had been filming, they were organizing an electroland at Disney. It's in Paris, Disneyland, Paris.
Starting point is 00:25:48 And they were like, yeah, this French company has been filming at these old French guys. And, like, they kind of suck. So we're going to have you come in. But we did it for half the price that these guys were doing it. But they did at the same time, we were both filming those. We were filming against each other. And it was just me and my. boy and like i'm just running around with the with the a seven just getting like some cool like handheld
Starting point is 00:26:08 shots and in the crowd and all the stuff and then he's got the red camera and just smoke these guys just like blew him out of the fucking one like they're like one like one guy had like a helmet cam he was like wearing like a helmet cam we're like bro what the fuck are these guys doing how much you get paid for that we get paid like 12k okay in pounds though 16 17000 dollars u.s yeah so how much are you making right now right now i i make money I probably make like 5K a month from everything. From like yeah
Starting point is 00:26:38 sometimes a little bit more depends but I have like because I have a members club and we do like trips. Yeah basically. And then I like I make a movie out of it. So we did a trip to like McKinoss, Cape Town. We did Coachella
Starting point is 00:26:51 which is cool. Yeah. But that's kind of like what I want to I love the most doing because I love just filming parties and holidays and like stuff like that. Yeah. But so if you're making like $5,000 a month, I look at your videos and I think this lifestyle costs 30 grand a month, maybe 40,000 a month.
Starting point is 00:27:10 Where does that difference come from? Like, how do you get that lifestyle? Because I know a lot of people, I feel. I feel like a lot of the things that I do is because I know people and I manage to like make it look bigger than it is. I'm very good at making things look cooler than they are. But what about your, like, the rent? The rent's got to be like 16 grand a month. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:31 18, something like that? Yeah. So, I mean, I'm paying like three. Really? Yeah. So you rent out that house with other people. Yeah, they have the lease. I'm just like renting, renting them because they're my friends.
Starting point is 00:27:42 That's a good price for that place. It's right off of like Sunset Boulevard in West Hollywood. Like that location is prime. And what about like the cars? You're driving like a Ferrari, was it a 308 or 328 Ferrari? Yeah, yeah. I'll like rent them or ask like a friend who has a car or something. Okay, what about the food?
Starting point is 00:28:02 What about, okay, so I'm guessing the, we're gonna get this, the nightclubs I'm guessing, you just get in. So, so that, there's no cost in there. In LA, like, if you're, like, cool, I guess, it's the only place that this works. If you're, like, cool, you can to go out and drink for free and party and everything, and they kind of want you there. It's weird. Yes.
Starting point is 00:28:19 Like, every other place in Europe, they'll be like, what are you doing? Like, you have to buy a table or something. You know what I mean? Going out's free. What, the food? How do you? I shop at Costco. No, I'm talking about, like, the restaurants.
Starting point is 00:28:29 I see you, I see you at these restaurants. Transfer, bringing out just like, you know, the crab that, like, has the smoke show. Like, yeah, I'm going. Mastros. I'll, like, be with someone just doing it, you know. And they'll pay for, or it's just like. Yeah, or promoter dinner or stuff. Could be more frugal than I am, man.
Starting point is 00:28:46 That's impressive. You're living, you're living a $40,000 a month lives. Okay. Private Jets. Do you just, you just get invited on private jets? No, like, maybe, like, three times on other people's jets. I've only ever, the most of being, it's like ours. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:02 Yeah, because your family probably has one. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So you fly here with a private jet? No, no, no. They don't, like, let me, like, use it like that or something? How do you get here? You drive or fly?
Starting point is 00:29:13 Oh, yeah, I flew from L.A. to here. What airline? Spirit airline. Did you really? Yeah. Well, it flies from Burbank. Yeah. And I didn't want to go to L.A.X.
Starting point is 00:29:22 It's annoying. You didn't use Jet Suite X flies from Burbank, too. I know, but I tell you, bro, I'm not rich like that, bro. I'm just like, cooling, you know what I'm saying? Is it? Are you worried? But are you worried Bobby? Are you serious? If someone sees you on spirit air, like, if I saw you with spirit air, I'd be like, what the
Starting point is 00:29:38 Bobby? I know, but that's you. Like, people don't understand. Like, I don't give a, like, I'm happy to just live breadline and, like, smoke weed and be chilling on a beach. Like, that's me. Like, that's how I grew up. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:29:48 It's just, like, chilling. And, like, I'm happy with that. So it's like, money is, like, super cool to me. And I love, like, doing those things. But without it, I'm exactly the same. And I'm still laughing. So it's not like your lifestyle necessarily requires money. Or at least you're having.
Starting point is 00:30:02 My happiness doesn't require, exactly. Because when you know that you have like an $80 million house, a jet, and your dad's like this, that, the other, it sort of removed any like, I don't ever feel like I need to prove anything to anyone. Do you know what I'm saying? If you wanted to, you could just go move back in with your dad or something like that. Yeah, I mean, I could live in Santa Pae, but it's boring. Yeah. Drive Rolls Royces. That's boring, Jack.
Starting point is 00:30:28 You could live more want to go in Santer Pay, but it's like, bro, like, it's boring. Like to be in L.A. And like when you're part of that scene, to then go to L.A. is like, everyone's like, oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:30:37 Like, because they, most people can't do that. What's the L.A. scene that you're talking about? Because that's where I grew up. Yeah. Like,
Starting point is 00:30:42 what could you describe that? Yeah. The scene in like, in Europe, like all the high society, like that, that vibe to, for them,
Starting point is 00:30:51 for me to go out to L.A., it's like, oh, wow. Like, he's out there's so crazy. Because to them, like,
Starting point is 00:30:55 it's such a distant land with movie stars and like, I don't understand it. You know what I mean? So I think that's cool. So could you break down your expenses for us from like five grand a month, three of its rent, you're left with two? How do you spend that other two on average? Probably another like 1,500 allowance.
Starting point is 00:31:14 And then depends. Like sometimes I'll- 35, okay. Sometimes I'll make like other money like from random things. Sure. You know, like connecting someone to someone or like doing a random story post. about like a little NFT. How much could you make connecting someone to someone else?
Starting point is 00:31:33 Anywhere between like 1500 and like 10K. I think I made most 10K. Who do you connect for 10K? Well like for like blockchain development or something. Oh, okay, okay. A lot of that or Amazon, e-commerce automated stores and shit. I don't know. I have some friends that like they just do shit.
Starting point is 00:31:52 And it's like I'll introduce them to someone who might want to do it. You know. God, and you just collect a little bit of that introduction. Yeah. And then what about French Montana? Yeah, I was working for friends. I was like he's a videographer. I did that for like three months.
Starting point is 00:32:06 And then I was like, this is horrible. I don't want to be a tour videographer. Like I want to make my videos. Yeah. I don't need to do this. You know what I mean? But it was cool to go on, we went to the Middle East. Like it was sick.
Starting point is 00:32:16 You know what I'm saying? And I'm friends with French now and everything. So that's cool. And then afterwards then I started working for designer. Yeah, I saw him in one of your videos. Yeah. Just like hanging out in the kitchen. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:28 What would you need to? connect us with designer. Get designer on the podcast. He would come on the pod. Would he actually? He would have been here right now. Are you serious? Would he actually? No way. Let's do that. Should we call him? Yes. Is he is he in Vegas? Is he in Vegas? No, in Vegas. No, we get, damn it. Call him. It's his birthday. Holy No way. He doesn't, he doesn't know. Does he know you're doing this? No, I didn't know you. Oh my gosh. No, I saw him in your videos like that's so cool. I'm a big, I'm a big fan of the
Starting point is 00:32:56 panda. Panda. Panda. Panda. No, no, no, no. Just he makes that sound all the time. I love it. Br-R-A-Br-R-A. I can't do it, but yeah. I love it. So many numbers. Oh, my gosh. That's nuts, man. I'm not that you can just casually call people.
Starting point is 00:33:10 I know. Blows my mind. Yeah, okay, so, so let's call it. But, like, who else? I'm not going to ask you to call anybody else, but I'm like, who else do you have in that, that phone? Yeah. Yo. Babe, what the fuck going on?
Starting point is 00:33:23 Oh, what the fuck going on, right? Fucking beat ain't. Hey, yo, you're on the Graham-Steffen podcast right now, bro. I just called you up. Man, sign you out, man. What the fucking going on? Designer, man. We saw you in Bobby's video.
Starting point is 00:33:42 We liked it in the kitchen. So I just want to say, we really appreciate you, your music. And if you're ever in Vegas, we'd love to have you on the podcast if you're interested. And sushi on us. That's fine. Let's go crazy. Let's go crazy, man. Let's go crazy.
Starting point is 00:33:58 All right, my boy, I'll see you later. Hey, thanks for your time, man. Hey, get a lot of game for real. He did the thing. He did the thing. Oh, dude, that blew my mind. That blew my mind. He did the thing.
Starting point is 00:34:21 That just made my day. Wow. That's crazy. Yeah, that's funny. So this reminds me, Airac. It could be saying, oh, yeah, we could say it. Eric had, you know, Eric, he had, Billy Eilish called it, she didn't pick up.
Starting point is 00:34:35 And we, my hands were like, sweet. And then, like, something happened where we knew she saw it. Oh, yeah. Or, like, a text message said red. Yeah. He had said, he could call it for, like, the iced coffee hour or something like that. It said red. But never got back to her.
Starting point is 00:34:50 You know, like, Eric's second ever video he made, I was, I was, like, in it. Like, he, like, said, like, he, like, hit me up, asked me to buy the couch. And I didn't know what this was going on. I was like, I was like, hmm, I should have bought it now. I look back, but I was like,
Starting point is 00:35:04 what do you mean? I don't want to buy a couch. And then like, and then whatever. And then he like puts it in. He's like, I contacted all these people. I contacted Bobby Miser,
Starting point is 00:35:11 famous for life for the latest. That would have been big had you bought the couch. And then like, I was like, wow, this guy's really going for it. And then all of a sudden he's getting
Starting point is 00:35:17 millions of views. I was like, wow, yeah, he really. Had you, had you bought that couch, that would have been huge. I know,
Starting point is 00:35:24 Yeah, the $90,000 on a couch. Who else's number do you have in there? You don't have to call anybody else. Lindsay Lohan. Okay. Oh, can we get her on the podcast? I'd pay you to get Lindsay Lohan. No, she weren't kind of podcast.
Starting point is 00:35:35 She doesn't fuck with me anymore, bro. Oh, what happened? Well, because we, like, we, like, hooked up for, like, a week, and we were, like, hanging out and shit. Hook up? Yeah. And then we were like, well, like, I was, I don't know. I was her toy boy for a week, essentially.
Starting point is 00:35:47 And, like, we, you know, she took me to some parties and shit. Kate Moss jumped out of this fucking birthday cake and, like, getting papped and stuff. I was lit. But then I obviously said that I dated her in my YouTube video and she was like, fuck you. So like, you know.
Starting point is 00:35:59 Why was she upset at that? Was she just like not like, she's just like, so like, so over Hollywood. Like she lives in Dubai. So she just, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:36:07 Got it. Probably be fine if we saw each other again, but like not going to. I can't call her. Got it. Man. Part of me feels like I should just, you know,
Starting point is 00:36:17 live off of five grand a month. Just take a picture with my four G. Take a picture with my $40,000 Aquarium, you know. I don't care. You know, just, you know, people like that stuff on YouTube. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:30 That's insane to me, man. That's insane to me. I'm actually pretty surprised. I honestly thought that the lifestyle that you were living was like 30, 40 grand a month. I mean, it makes sense. I think it would be like the sensible thing to do. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:43 I can't worry that you just did that. Yeah, I know. I'm still trying to like wrap my mind around that. Yeah. If we got designer on the pot, like I would, I would flip. I would flip.
Starting point is 00:36:53 If there's any way to make that happen, any time, you just let us know, hey, this time, this place, or obviously this place, but this time, meet here and we'll be there.
Starting point is 00:37:01 We'll be there. Anytime. 24-7. Even if it's like 3 a.m. I'll find a way to make that work. He's hilarious as well. I like his energy. He got me hyped up.
Starting point is 00:37:11 I know. I'm like, I'm going to have a great day today. Just the exact same. Yeah. By the way, did he say, did he say it was your birthday today?
Starting point is 00:37:18 It was his birthday on like Wednesday. Oh, wow. Oh, okay. Nice, nice. That's how we kind of first became friends was like, well, like I was filming a bit for him. And then we realized like, oh, bro, our birthdays were the same time. And that's when we threw this party at Jake's house, which was just like viral. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:34 Which is cool. Wow. What's your experience been like going from that to dating? Because I see what you have a girlfriend now, right? Yeah, yeah. So I have a girlfriend. She's French. Met her in Santerpe.
Starting point is 00:37:44 She's from Montana? No. I was kidding. Get to the joke. French. She's from Montana. Wow. Such a deck.
Starting point is 00:37:52 French Montana. French Montana. So, yeah, I mean, I have a girlfriend. I've had a girlfriend now for like almost a year. It'll be the longest girlfriend I've ever had. Oh, we go. Which is pretty cool. What do you like about this girl?
Starting point is 00:38:07 I like that she's very, very beautiful. She's always smiling. She's very happy. She's just like nice. The sweetest girl, so sweet. You know what I'm saying? It's important. And what's your experience been like before her?
Starting point is 00:38:25 Before her, I had like one girlfriend before her. That's it. It was like for like six months or something. This girl from Monaco, but it ended up just being like pretty big heartbreak for me. What happened? Like we both like, we're like, because I was living in London after the summer and then she was there. And then she like cheated on me with a guy who had like a way bigger yacht. And I came back to Monaco and was like fucking pissed. and went out with my little sister and her friend
Starting point is 00:38:51 and went to this club in Monaco. And in Monaco, everyone sort of stands around in the club and they're just bored and like they have ridiculous amounts of money. They're like a pyramid of crystal. You're talking like, you know, they're dropping like 30, 40K and like nobody's excited. And so like I'm in this bitch,
Starting point is 00:39:05 started getting drunk. And I find this kid who's who basically fuck my girlfriend with a big yacht and shit. And I try to start like a fight with him. It's like him. He's got security. He's got like all of his friends. I got my sister.
Starting point is 00:39:18 And I'm just like, belligerent trying to fucking fight this guy. Like, nobody would let me fight him because I'm so drunk. And then the valet, like, drove me home because I took my dad's car, like, a Bentley. And I couldn't drive it. So he, like, drove me home. Now, but did this guy know that, like, that was your girlfriend? Or is he just having a good time? It just so happens to me.
Starting point is 00:39:38 He didn't know. He didn't know. Yeah, you can't blame him. Yeah. But I was just mad. So, that's what happened. But, I mean, other than that, you know, just dated. some girls here and there, you know, always, yeah, always very aesthetic-based, I guess.
Starting point is 00:39:56 Yeah, what does your girlfriend do? She is a model and a horse rider. Okay. Yeah. When did your dad's net worth cross that billion dollar market? Yeah, I sold this company for 300 million. And I looked online. How accurate is it that it says his net worth is 400 million?
Starting point is 00:40:13 Just inaccurate. Here's the thing, like all my dad's money's in monocon, so there's things. And nobody knows how much. Got out. Right. There's a lot of people in Monacoe that nobody has any idea how much money they have. That's true. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:40:23 It's only what's reported, which is like, okay, he sold his company for 300 million in 2011. And then that's all the information that there is out there. And we'd like to keep it that way. So, yeah. You know. And do you, like you mentioned earlier, not to take it to a dismal place, but you seem not too concerned about growing your income right now. And you're not worried about when you get older and you need money for, Like, you know, and Medicare.
Starting point is 00:40:49 Yeah. Medicare. Like, because you said that. Well, Australia has free Medicare. Oh. In that case. I could just go home. Expenses when you're older and maybe, you know, don't want to work and stuff like that,
Starting point is 00:41:00 want to retire. You said you're just, you're not worried. Do you, does that translate to you not really caring about scaling your income right now? No, I definitely care about, like, growing, like scaling my income and stuff. It's just a matter for me. It's like having the right business and doing it with the right business. and just letting it happen naturally. Because sometimes, you know, out of nowhere,
Starting point is 00:41:23 someone's just going to offer you a bunch of money to make them a video or something, which I think is just cool. Like, I like to do it like that. You know, I like, I prefer to make a bunch of money in one go. I don't like to like, you know, when people, that's why I hate businesses where it's like, you're going to sell like 100,000 of this $5 product
Starting point is 00:41:40 and it's all shipping out and stuff like that. I hate it. I hate that. Like, I like to like do things where it's like, okay, here's like five bands. Make a video. Like, you know what I'm saying? Or like, I make like, you know, 10K off doing a Paradise Black Trip or something like this.
Starting point is 00:41:51 You know what I'm saying? And when you make 10 grand like that, what do you do with it? Do you still save up money? Are you pretty month to month? Because like you said, you don't really need to save or invest. I do. I do, though. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:01 I didn't used to. And it was really annoying because no matter how much, even if you're making a dollar money, you always bottom out. It's fucking annoying. So, yeah, I'm invested in like some NFTs and crypto and stuff. Do you have any traditional investments on that? No. stock, no index funds, no real estate.
Starting point is 00:42:17 I feel like I hate, I don't, I feel like it's fast enough. Not fast enough. Not fast enough. So all the money is crypto, NFTs. Yeah. What crypto? Just Eiff. Okay.
Starting point is 00:42:31 And then I got some deadfellas. Cool know what that is. It's like an NFT. Okay. It's cool. You worried about the NFT market kind of softening a little bit? Yeah. Sales are down 92%.
Starting point is 00:42:43 Yeah. I don't know. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, It's a roller coaster. Okay. You know, saying so when it's up, it's up, when it's down, it's down. But you don't have any desire for, like, a good solid, diversified Vanguard Index fund. We could set that up today for you.
Starting point is 00:42:55 How much do you make? Well, 8% a year, if you've done an average year. Well, yeah. With dividends reinvested, of course. Partially adjusted for inflation. Partially adjusted for inflation. Yeah, hopefully adjusted for inflation. Over 20 years.
Starting point is 00:43:11 Yeah. This doesn't work with me. You said that the problem is like, you've learned, my, one of my business partners learned that with me. It's like we make money. It's gone. But do you think, though, that that sets the, like, your level, your threshold is so high that, like, an 8% return is just like, why?
Starting point is 00:43:27 Why is that worth your time? Yeah. Because you've seen, like, such bigger return that's stored your deal. I'm always just trying to make more money. I'm just trying to look for, like, how can I make more money? You know what I mean? Rather than, like, I don't have, like, enough where it's, like, I would put it in a vanguard account and just leave it on 8% and then I'm making a cool amount
Starting point is 00:43:45 the money, you know what I'm saying? Because as I said, like, I'll get a bunch of money and I spend it and I get more and they spend it. So it's like, I don't know, I'm always just looking for something bigger, right? And then eventually going into my dad's business is my plan. So how confident are you about the inheritance and going into your dad's business? Like, is there a chance? He could say, you know what? Chained my mind. It's going to charity. No. No. My dad's very much like me. You know what I'm saying? We're like, we believe in like empire.
Starting point is 00:44:11 You know what I'm saying? And like our family and everything. So my dad like, you know, me and him are pretty similar in the way that we want, we wouldn't give it a charity, you know. But,
Starting point is 00:44:22 I could definitely get myself written out of the will if I became a junkier or something. Sure. Yeah. You know. What's your relationship with them now? Yeah, it's good.
Starting point is 00:44:30 It's very good. It got very, I went to prison in Japan. And that was sort of like, it was after a summer in Central Pay and I've really been pissing off my parents and I spent a bunch of money in their credit card. Do they have, do they give you a credit card? No, no, no, no. Like, I took it and like went out and like I'm not supposed to do that. And so I got in a bunch of trouble and I left basically ran away
Starting point is 00:44:51 back to LA. He was living with my friend in his spare room. Um, and then I was like, oh shit, I made this, I was still working for designer. So I still had been make some money and I made this one video sort of talking about like what happened and like where my life was at now and how I was like staying with my friend all this shit. Started getting a bunch of of views and I go on tour with designer to to to like Asia so we first go to South Korea and then we go out in the club and it's lit and like they're like me and design me designer and he's homie where everyone else in the club is just Korean and so like and a lot of just girls like tables with only girls and they're kind of dancing like it was the Lego movie and it was just like so happy and like me
Starting point is 00:45:33 and designer just like in the middle and I was like just praising us oh wow they're like Oh, Bobby's in the house. We got that signer. All this shit. So it was like lit. We go out next day and next in the morning. So we didn't sleep. We go straight into the plane.
Starting point is 00:45:46 I'm super hungover. And I'm like, oh, I don't know. And like, get out in Japan and the customs like checks my bag and they find Adderall. And they're like, this is super illegal. I'm like, what? I was like, I don't know. I was like just take it. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:45:57 And then they're like, no, no, no. You're going to jail. I was like, oh, shit. And then like, so then I'm in fucking chat was in Japanese prison for like two months. Two months? Yeah. In prison? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:11 How do you not have the money or the resources that your dad could say like, hey, we're getting a lawyer, we're getting a man? It's Japan. It's not America. It's not America where you just get, you know what I mean? Like, obviously that would have happened. No, no, no, no, especially only for Japanese people. But then, so I was just stuck, no phone calls, like no communication. I mean, you're just like there. And you've got to wait for your trial.
Starting point is 00:46:31 The parents just not, like, how would they not track you down or like find somebody who knows? They knew, but like, they had. The thing in Japan is 99% conviction rate. So it doesn't fucking matter if you get a lawyer or not. If you're getting charged with something, that's it. You're getting a charge of it. So they were like, just tell the truth. That's what the, this U.S. military, like the head of the military lawyer came in to see me.
Starting point is 00:46:51 And he was like, just tell the truth. Like, you're not a dealer right? And I was like, no. And he's like, so you're going to be fine. Just tell the truth. They're going to give you a two-year suspended sentence and you go home. You can't come back to Japan. How does that take two months to go through that, though?
Starting point is 00:47:01 Because, I don't know. It just took ages to get to the trial. Because the guy thought I was a dealer. Like he was like he was thinking I was a dealer and he was thinking I was like trying to hide something from it. And I was like no, but like and then he ended up just being like, all right, fine, put me to trial and they like just said like, they made me promise to never do drugs again. And I was like, I was confused because I was just trying to come and be a productive, productive citizen and do my work very well for design. Because when you're a tour, like you know, sleep and shit. So like you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:47:26 And what was it like in prison? Well, like first month I'm just on the floor like sleeping on a gym mat. There's a couple other guys in there. one guy was really funny called toshi um and then the second month i was in like a scene you get moved to a bigger prison but luckily i was on an island apparently tokyos like like tactic so i'm on this island and i go and take your own cell a bed and shit there's a rule book with a lot of rules um you just sort of stay quiet and like read books but they had nice food at the second one the first one i lost a lot of weight because it's just three bowls of rice a day three balls of rice yeah that's it that's it
Starting point is 00:48:02 Nothing else. I was so much bigger than any of them. So it's like I lost like six kilos or something and they checked me into the other prison. They weighed me and he's like, all right, he gets an extra bowl of rice and all this shit when I was in the new one. But the new one, like they had actual food rather than just rice. Did you ever feel like you were in danger? Because I've seen stories of like the U.S. prison system and it's like just it, you could you could die at like any point if you cross the wrong person at the wrong time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:28 You feel safer. Yeah. Well, yeah, because you got to understand like in Japan. hand to commit a crime is a very low threshold. So the people in there are not criminals. Like they're just people who like kind of fucked up a little bit. You know what I mean? Like the one, there was one guy in there and he like,
Starting point is 00:48:41 he didn't want to pay tax on this gold that he had. So he tried to sneak it in without declaring it. So he's in prison. And then there's like another guy. Like he was just like, he was just happy all the time because he didn't care. He was just stealing stuff. He was like, that's what he did. It was just like stealing makeup.
Starting point is 00:48:53 So when you, they go to trial, are they supposed to just admit what they did? Yeah. You're supposed to tell the truth. If you tell the truth. Yeah. then they're more likely to give you, like, they're going to give you a more fair judgment is what they say. So if you just start telling the truth as much as you can,
Starting point is 00:49:10 just say the truth, then they're going to look more favorably upon you. Kind of like that. I mean, I always believe to say, to be honest about it. Yeah. Well, I mean, technically, Graham, you're supposed to be your...
Starting point is 00:49:20 Oh, yeah, I mean, under oath. But I guess I guess I know where you're doing. Yeah, but I don't think that the, does the U.S. legal system take that into consideration? Honesty? I feel like it's... Well, I don't plead guilty. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:32 Like they give you some favorable, you know. I feel like some of that is just a, it's just to get the conviction rates. It's like, hey, if you plead guilty to this, it'll lower it versus the- It's more so for making a deal in the U.S. So you make a deal with the prosecutor, you know, and if you admit to it, you get a better sentence. That's who I feel like it's just, you know, churning through, whereas in Japan, it's about more like honesty and just don't do it again. Yeah, honesty, don't do it again.
Starting point is 00:49:58 Swear to God, you'll never use that or all again and all the stuff. They have lower crime rates than the U.S.? I'm curious of it. I mean, probably way higher if they have a lower threshold. No, I know. No, no, no. So it's like obviously it's not like hectic crime. Like here it's like there's,
Starting point is 00:50:11 to go to jail here is really difficult, I feel, especially in California. Like I think it's really hard to end up in jail for an extended period of time. So it's like, I feel like the people in there are really criminals, you know, so it's like, must be a lot more dangerous to be in prison there than in Japan, you know? Because in Japan, they're also like super strict with the rules
Starting point is 00:50:29 and the guards are very on top of everything and everything's like to the dot, exact minute, everything, this happened to this afternoon. So it's not like, you know, it's not scary like that.
Starting point is 00:50:39 You were at no point scared? Well, there was this one guy three cells down and he like killed his mom with a toothbrush and it was on the news because this guy came in after me
Starting point is 00:50:49 and he was like, bro, like that guy like in the set because he was isolated and he just looked really weird and like we were like and he was like, yeah, that guy killed his mom with a toothbrush.
Starting point is 00:50:57 And then we're like, we all go next to each other like brushing our teeth next to each other. And I was like, like, a couple of times I'm like, next to this fucking guy. And I would just be like, in the mirror just death staring him straight in the eyes. And I'm like, no. Were you taller than that?
Starting point is 00:51:10 Yeah, I'm like way bigger. I'm like, no. Yeah. You know. How do you do that? I guess you must have filed it down. So for a reference, too. Japan.
Starting point is 00:51:19 So on the crime index, so again, it could be skewed because they could have more convictions. But they are 63, one being the worst. And then U.S. is. 135. So they have more crime, higher crime. But like I said, that could be also because like he was saying, if they have, you know,
Starting point is 00:51:42 a lower level of crime. And like I said, I don't know. But if you can get arrested for just, you know, jaywalking. I bet the US, you know,
Starting point is 00:51:50 then they could have a, you know, a higher. So there's no way for us to know exactly. Yeah, I mean, I guess you could just look at violent crimes or something like that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:57 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But wow. Interesting. How was that to get out?
Starting point is 00:52:02 Um, so cool. Wow. You feel incredible. I mean, it was, honestly, it was like, it was great rehab as well, because I'm not smoking any cigarettes or drinking or anything remotely. And like, you're so, you're just reading books and kind of like just being healthy and like, you get to go to the, the workout place for 30 minutes a day. So you do work out as hard as you can for 30 minutes. It almost was like, you had a very good schedule and everything was organized. So I was like, okay, if I'm going to be here for two years, I'm not that mad. Yeah. Because I'll come out and, like, I'll just be like a whole new guy. I'll be shredded. But at least two months was cool because I came out and I just felt like so healthy. I'm always curious like what happens to people's responsibilities. It's like two months like rent credit cards, bills. How do those get paid? How do they not just like tell you you leave it on the street and like your car gets towed or so? I know. Yeah. I mean, I didn't really have that many bills.
Starting point is 00:52:58 My friend, when I was in there, my friend was running up my Amazon because I left it on the TV. He was buying movies and subscriptions. Well, you were in prison? I came out. I was like, bro, you spent $200 and I'm in fucking jail? Give it back. What? You still friends with them? Yeah. Yeah. You didn't know. He thought it was his account. And then, um, uh, and I guess my parents paid my rent and I was in there. So they knew you were in there. How did you repair your relationship with your parents? Well, that's what I was saying. So honestly, it was like we're in a really bad state with my dad. I've been kicked out. I was cut off. I was living in a land on my own. I go into and I go to jail. But what that what happened then was like a lot of
Starting point is 00:53:41 growing up in my family. It's always been like a lot of like back and forth between me and my dad especially, right? Because I'm the only son. He's he's always been very harsh from me if he gives me a punishment. It's like that's it like you're fucked. Right. And so when that happened and I ended up in jail, it was like, oh wow. Like maybe it was like all like it was just very like my dad was just worried more. You know what I mean? And it was like, I came out and we were like all very, very close again and we were like, well, sorry. Like I was like, I'm so sorry. And my parents like, I'm so sorry. So it wasn't like he was mad at me. He was honestly just more worried because I was in Japan and there was no way he could help me and everything. And I was like,
Starting point is 00:54:15 what if I ended up in there for two years or whatever? So I think going to jail, honestly made me realize that how important my family is and like gave me like, I realize I need to have a lot more respect for my parents and like and that my life is fine already like I shouldn't you know be abusing my position or anything anymore and I don't know it was just it was a big eye opener for sure for on both sides though like my dad realized like you know as well like I think we just became a lot nicer to each other afterwards it was it was interesting got and if you if it I'm taking you want eventually kids yeah how would you raise them differently than you were raised um I would I'm gonna I would just be a lot more present um I would
Starting point is 00:54:58 words um first of all my son's gonna be called drako like drako maufoy really you already have the name it's done it's done it's done it's done it's why drago he's gonna be drako okay why because it's cool like i feel like it's a cool name i feel like that's a strong name draco more like the villain though i also don't i don't want anyone yeah to be able to shorten his name because i don't i feel like that's not a power move yeah you can't call me something else you can't make up your name like i'd be drake i'd be drake yeah i'd say drake Yeah, but it's powerful, Draco, bro. And it's more bougie than Drake.
Starting point is 00:55:32 I mean, I'll give you this. It's a unique name. I don't know anybody named Draco. Would you change your name to Draco if you could? No, no, no, no. I like my name. Is it short for Robert? Yeah, my name is Robert.
Starting point is 00:55:44 So you just don't like how people shorten your name. And now you're like, I'm not going to like my son go through that. Because I like Bobby, I feel like it's more catchy. It's easier to say. Jack is, his name is shortened from Jacqueline. Yeah. See, it's the word. It's not.
Starting point is 00:55:57 I just made that up. But it's so formal to say, like, Robert. Like, it's like, you know what I mean? I feel like that's so formal. I don't like saying. Rob? Like, like, Robert or like, but it's like, I don't know. When I'm in the UK, like, I have to say, like, Robert.
Starting point is 00:56:14 And it's like, I feel like it's so formal. So I was just like I say Bobby and it just works everywhere. Yeah. You never, you never misunderstand. I think that's a name where, like, as you grow older, it's like, you know, you're Bobby when you're young. And then you go to Robert in, like, your mid-30s. And then you go to Bob when you're, like, 50. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:27 Bob when I'm 50. Rob. With raising my kid, right, Draco, I'm going to, like, push him into sport at a really young age. Like Quidditch? Like, make him, yeah, like, quidditch.
Starting point is 00:56:40 So, like, get him on the quidditch team, but, like, really push him. And, like, you know what I mean? Because I wish I had that. I wish that one of my parents had pushed me to do a sport. Or music or anything? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:49 It could be magic. No. No? No. With, Draco, you got to go all the way. Absolutely. What if he really wanted that? No.
Starting point is 00:56:57 Oh, yeah, that's a good goal. What if he's into something completely different? Like, you know, you want to continue on this wealth, but he's like, you know what? I just want to chill. He wants to chill? He doesn't get to chill, but no, no, no, no, no, no. Jake is going to be a beast. He's going to be a beast, but I'm going to push.
Starting point is 00:57:14 I'm going to, because I want to say, I'm going to push him from a very young age. He's going to be incredible at, like, tennis or something. I want him to be incredible at a sport so that when he's, by the time he's finished school, he'd be like, wow, I'm so glad that I'm really, really sick of this sport. and now I'm so fit and I can just play tennis for the rest of my life. Like something like that. That's part. I wish that I had piano lessons.
Starting point is 00:57:31 I always, I wish that I had piano lessons growing up. I had piano. I wish that I persisted through that. Although kind of it was annoyance when I was young. But now I'm like, God, like I have a friend. My best friend grew up and he's like super good at that guitar. And he can still play that and like, I don't know, play cool music.
Starting point is 00:57:45 And I'm like, God, I wish I had piano. Yeah. That way of that piano. But it gives you like a discipline from a young age. I think I think I want to give my son a lot more discipline. I didn't have that. I didn't have discipline. My mom was just with my older sister riding horses.
Starting point is 00:57:57 My dad wasn't there. So I just on my own. But now how do you feel about the fact that like, I think it's 90 something percent of wealth is lost after the third generation? And so you're the second. So there would be one more generation and it's gone. You worried about that? No.
Starting point is 00:58:13 No. No. It's going to be disciplined. Why is that? What do you mean 90%? How? Wealth, hold on. I'll tell you the actual statistic here.
Starting point is 00:58:20 70% of affluent families will have lost their wealth by the third generation. I feel like affluence is also a little bit different than like billionaire status. Oh, this one says 90% of lost their wealth by the third generation. I just feel like, I feel like it's just accumulating so much. Like, and there's that we have a trust as well. So it's not like when my dad dies, I'm just going to have all the fucking money in my bank account. I can't just go spend it. It's like we have a trust, like a family office and stuff.
Starting point is 00:58:45 So it's like, you know, I'd have to get approved for all the things that I'd want to do or whatever. You know what I mean? So it's like we'd always make sure that it's making money. That's what you know, it's real. and there's a family office, Jack. You ever heard of this? Never heard of the family office. So a family office is just, yeah, seriously,
Starting point is 00:59:01 it's like a roommate's except for wealth planning, tax management, lawyers, states, basically anything that a family would need on like the back end for planning their wealth is... To make sure that they can never go poor again. Basically, to make sure that they get the proper tax optimization, accounting, legal...
Starting point is 00:59:21 We live in Monaco, so it's like, you have to pay tax. Right. But, but, but, problem is when, when, when I'm, I'm American, I'm American citizen, do you know what I'm saying? So I'm like, I'm an FAPT tax. But, whatever. Yeah, but yeah. So anyway, it's about $250 to $500 million is when people typically have their own family office, the dedicated family office. Yeah. It's, yeah, it's crazy once you go, like, down this leagues. Yeah, you get your own family office of like, you have a team of people around you, making sure that, like, that money is put to its best use. And you guys have a fiduci here. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You split it in? Is it your own family office? Yes, no, it's all right. We have like, yeah. Do they do your taxes too? No. I just, I do them because they're American. American taxes. Okay.
Starting point is 01:00:05 I'm sure it's, I'm sure it's pretty basic on your end. It's like income coming in and then like 90% is a ride off. Yeah, I save, like, so much, because I spend so much of my money. So it's like, I don't have to pay much because I'm spending it all. And this I'm a YouTuber. So I'm spending it on stuff that I'm trying to film and shit, you know. Do you ever want to leave California? You're pretty content there. Well, yeah, I mean, like, like I said, like, I'm not like, accumulating a lot of wealth yet. Yeah. So for me, California still makes a lot of sense to be there.
Starting point is 01:00:31 Like, I know that you moved, you moved here because there was no tax and stuff, but you're, you're you're trying to accumulate a bunch of wealth. Yeah. Right. Obviously in California, that's annoying because you constantly getting fucking tax on everything. You're going to tax when you're going buying things. Everything, everything has taxes there, you know. How will your life change when you get, you know, $200 million, $300 million?
Starting point is 01:00:50 I don't know, man. You know. I'd just be cooling. I don't know. Like, by that time, like, I'll be, like, older and, like, I'll already have, like, I've made a bunch of money myself. But nothing close to that. But you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:01:04 I'll be more cooling. Hopefully, have a family and stuff. How do you plan to make more money by yourself? With Paradise Black. What is that? My members club. I just want to grow that. Because when I'm older, I want to have my own, like, a building, like a members club as
Starting point is 01:01:21 as well, which I think would be really sick. I just like that. You guys go around, like you mentioned earlier, you traveled to certain locations and you can figure out like all the amenities and the food. Yeah. So you know how to party well and you want to share with other people. So I've been partying since I was like 12, you know what I'm saying? And like I've been to doing all of these things every year for like, you know, 10 years now.
Starting point is 01:01:42 So since I was 17, really, I started going out in that jet set vibe. So I know like all the people. I know all the places. I know what you need to do and everything when you go to like the Monica Grand Prix or Coachella and all these things and have a lot of access. I know a lot of people. I know how to get into certain parties that you just wouldn't get invited to and stuff like that. So basically what we're offering is a high level of access on these trips.
Starting point is 01:02:05 And it's just turnkey. So it's like you don't have to touch your wallet either. So it's like you just pay a one-off fee. You come and everything's just organized. But here's the thing, Jack, that I've noticed is that when you have the money to pay for something like that, you typically already have the connections. That's not true, though. There's so many guys that have money that have no idea about what's going on, you know, because they're busy making money.
Starting point is 01:02:28 They're not out on this whole party scene, like knowing people. Then don't you think there's a high turnover of people? Like, that type, they don't have the connections. That type would just get it out of their system for a year or two. And then there'd be a constant influx out flocks of new people leaving. Yeah. I mean, I don't know. We've only been running for a year.
Starting point is 01:02:45 So I'm just, you know, we're just trying to do some stuff like that. How much does it cost? between 15 and 30,000 depending on the trip And what does that get you? Well, we fly in like some tier one girls We get like, you know A villa
Starting point is 01:02:59 Depends where we're at Or like maybe a boat And then you know It pays for your tables And transport Like in Mekanos we have like a really sick driver It's like a sprinter van It's called George's lit
Starting point is 01:03:11 And do you go along with them Like you're a part of this So you're there It's like you're coming to party with me And I'm like fucking sending it And you're having Because I'm very fun to party with. Like, I'll make sure everyone's having a great time. You know what I'm saying? No short.
Starting point is 01:03:23 And nothing, there's always something happening. Yeah. You know, um, which I think people love, they like to do that, you know, and it's cool to be in a group as well, especially when you're young guys, you know, because you're, you're going up against like, you know, 60 year old dudes, you have a hundred million dollars in the bank and they're just like, don't care, you know, so it's like, for young guys, like, yeah, you're making money, but it's like you don't have a hundred Gs to spend, but you maybe have 15 to 30,000. You know what? So you go together and then you got a cool situation going on. How long does that last?
Starting point is 01:03:51 Let's say it's 30 grand. Is that like a month? Is that like a weekend? It's a week. Yeah. How much do you make off of that? Not enough yet. Okay.
Starting point is 01:04:01 Because we're still like more like we spend all the money to make the trip as cool as it can be. Okay. But you get the experience for free. Yeah. But you put it all together. And then you get there's an after movie and photography and everything while you're there, which a lot of these, a lot of the time, like people do these trips and then they just forget about it.
Starting point is 01:04:18 And it's like you spend all that money. You don't have anything to show for anything to show for it. So I think it's really cool to have like video of it. Imagine you like a trophy at the end. Like a certificate like hey, man you did this. You completed the week, the two weeks, whatever it is. How many people have done that so far? And what's like the typical person who buys that?
Starting point is 01:04:40 We've done three trips. Typical person is like young guy anywhere between, you know, 20 and 30. wants to party wants to meet girls makes a good amount of money a lot of the last trip like the guys were like in tech three of the guys were in tech
Starting point is 01:04:56 like doing stuff you know like online like one guy's AI for e-commerce I don't know tech but uh and then the other guys like in real estate
Starting point is 01:05:04 from Switzerland some of my friends um and yeah and then how do you get the the girls are they just like friends of friends are they hired out like
Starting point is 01:05:13 yeah like friends of friends I like to just do it like with friends and stuff I mean, that's a lot of what were the reason you'd want to come in one that their trips with me is because I'm friends with a lot of these influencer girls and girls that seem out of reach to these guys. Because they're down to, you know, if it, they're down to come on these trips
Starting point is 01:05:29 because they know they're going to hang out with like young guys and it's not like you're going on a trip with a creepy old guy. You know, it's like Dubai or something. So it's fun, you know. How common is that? I heard a rumor. I think it was on the Impulsive podcast. I think it was Mike that was talking about like a lot of those like Instagram,
Starting point is 01:05:46 models are kind of like doing stuff on the side. It's, yeah, and Dubai. Well, here's a thing. It's like, if you're a pretty girl on Instagram and you have like a certain amount of followers, you just get these offers. Like my girlfriend gets them all the time. Like,
Starting point is 01:05:59 what are the offers? Hey, like I have a very important client in Dubai who's looking for fresh young faces to come out and party. You'll be paid this amount. All your flights taken care of. You get to go shopping and all this shit. Like literally like a whole, like just an offer.
Starting point is 01:06:13 How much of those offers? Between like, They'll be like, yeah, we'll give you like 20,000, and we'll take you shopping. You can just stay in the hotel and you just have to like come to like some parties with the shake, whatever. Really? Yeah. Oh my gosh. Now, is there anything, is there anything ever implied after that or it's just like, just like flat out like just show up?
Starting point is 01:06:36 Yeah, they're just like show up. I mean, I've also heard it's not like sketchy either because like these guys, a lot of them just want these girls around them for image rather than. So sketchdown go to another country? It's like some random. Especially, you know, I don't like being in countries with the laws are all weird. Yeah. Has she ever done that? Who?
Starting point is 01:06:55 Your girlfriend? No. No, absolutely not. How does that feel for you to be like in a relationship with someone who gets these offers? I think it's funny. I think it's funny. That's so hard to say no to them. I think it's funny to see guys like thirsting over her and stuff.
Starting point is 01:07:08 I think it's funny. Because they know that, yeah. They obviously know that I'm her boyfriend as well because you can see on Instagram. Like you could see. So I think it's funny. But why I go for her with? the boyfriend. I don't get...
Starting point is 01:07:18 Well, it's more... It's a power trip thing as well. You know what I mean? They think they can take Bobby's girlfriend on the fucking trip if they pay her, but like, it's not the case. Yeah, wouldn't they just throw out an offer like a hundred thousand?
Starting point is 01:07:28 Like, is there a price that you would encourage her? Be like, honey, it's like a 500 grand. Just like, I trust you. Just have fun this weekend. Be safe. Come back and like... Is there an amount where it's like... I think like...
Starting point is 01:07:40 For like... Yeah, like, maybe like 200K. Imagine the guy with the guy with the... yacht is watching this the bigger yeah I was like hey man no hard feelings but it's like
Starting point is 01:07:52 250 yeah gosh I would just I feel uncomfortable I'd feel uncomfortable with that I can yeah but I would
Starting point is 01:08:03 I don't know I couldn't let me flip the question on you is there a price for you no oh wait for for what for you to go you would encourage your girlfriend no to go on that trip now a million dollars you wouldn't do it
Starting point is 01:08:16 I would be, no, I'm thinking, I'm giving it a serious thought, I would be a wreck. I, I, I don't think I could do it. No, it would be, I don't think it's like, it'd be such like a, I couldn't do it. I, yeah, I just, no. No, even if for a million, no. 10 million. Yes, man, I mean, it's then. There's a price.
Starting point is 01:08:38 There's a price for a million dollar for a weekend. It's like, you can fight, you can fuck my goal for 10 million. Oh, gosh. It's just like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, that. But if it's like, if it's platonic for $10 million for a weekend. Just parting.
Starting point is 01:08:53 Oh, I don't know. I don't like, I would want like, I would want to say no, but I also know it's like a significant amount of money that would, you know, that would be her money.
Starting point is 01:09:02 So, you know, I don't know. I mean, you don't need the money, but it's the thing. I feel like people want too much money. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:09:10 Like, I feel like at like 10 mil like fucking whatever you're cooling at that point, you know? Yeah. I don't know. You probably don't think me. Graham's going to get to like 500 mil. I just think there's always like a safety net.
Starting point is 01:09:24 Like right now, there's nothing that says the market can't go down 50%. Yeah. Then you're cut in half. So by starting off with a larger amount, you could still drop that 50% and have more. Because I like the safety plus a big buffer.
Starting point is 01:09:39 Yeah. Like I love. So I feel more comfortable with that. Yeah. Require a larger amount. That's just for me, though. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:46 I just take the worst case account into a worst case scenario into account first and I'd like work backwards from that. Like what's the worst that's ever happened? Okay. Like a 70% drop during the Great Depression. Okay. Let's plan for that.
Starting point is 01:09:57 Okay. And then if it never happens, I'm good. If it does happen, then I plan for it. I see. That's how I see things. It's very good. So guys, we're going to do a new segment here.
Starting point is 01:10:05 Once again, Graham posted on his Instagram asking you guys questions to ask Bobby. So. All right. So we're going to start off with Nate O'Brien. Oh. What's up, man? Okay.
Starting point is 01:10:16 So he asked one that I was thinking. The first thing you walked in here. Yeah. How much did your shirt cost? Oh, I made this. Yeah. I made this shirts for my brand. Like, you used to have a clothing brand.
Starting point is 01:10:27 But yeah, it costs. I sold them for like they're $110. Did you strategically rip each hole? They were strategically ripped by it's made in Paris. But then I ripped it more. I like to look trashy. I like to look like I'm poor, to be honest. I feel like it's cool, you know.
Starting point is 01:10:44 Someone's going to clip that out of Congress. That's not the case because I feel like if you confidently wear ripped clothing like that, they're like, okay, this guy's insanely rich. That's what I'm saying. I feel like it's like, okay, like if you're, if you just got money, it's like, okay, you're going to wear stuff that everyone, says Versace on it or Gucci all over, right? Because you're like, you want everyone to know that it's cool and it's going to be clean. But when you, when you're me, you wear a fucked up t-shirt, fucked up shoes, but you're still going to the party and you're on the coolest table. So I've said that for the longest time. In Beverly Hills, it was always like the person who walks down with like the Gucci head to,
Starting point is 01:11:16 They're not buying anything. They show up just to be seen and do window shopping. But the guy who pulls up in the Rolls Roy's with 30 sweatpants, a torn tee, well, usually like a Walmart T-shirt, Scruffy hasn't shaved in a week. Like, that's the guy who has nothing to, nothing to proof. And he's, that's usually the customer that, like, you would want to cater to. Craziest thing you've ever spent money on. This fucking, this, like, F-355-1999 Ferrari that I bought for.
Starting point is 01:11:46 for a hundred thousand um and then it was just i got bro got shifted by this shady car salesman and it just was didn't work and it was always broken and then i was like 355 though yeah yeah it was like super mad and then like i try to sell it and it was only worth 50 so it's like 50 for it so i lost 50 bands what do you and i barely got to drive it yeah what do you know i don't have a car in l a always just like my friends have my roommates have cars and i'm never here i always travel and stuff so it's like, I don't know, I'm in the car yet. And you just got my license too. When? Like,
Starting point is 01:12:21 well, I had one, but in the UK. Oh, okay. Would you rather fight 100 duck-sized horses or one horse-sized duck? I feel like I would I'd fight the big duck. One big duck? You're a rather sizable person. You're pretty big. It's a duck. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:12:39 Tackle it. A bunch of horses could be really strong, like little, like horses are strong. And there's a lot of them, you'd be overwhelmed. That's a good point. All right. That's a good question. Why do you want to be famous or go viral? Um, I don't know. I just feel like it's cool to be known, especially amongst like, I like, I like to be known, um, amongst like my scene. I think and that that's what I achieved. And so like, ever since I kind of been more complacent. I didn't grow as much after because I, I, I just like make videos for my crowd rather than making trying to like grow as much because I'm not,
Starting point is 01:13:13 I don't have the work ethic, to be honest. I like to make, you know, I like to make a really cool video, and I feel like to do that, you can really max, max out at, like, two videos a month to make, like, a super sick one. But I don't think if you want to be known, you got to play to the algorithm,
Starting point is 01:13:30 you got to post more than that. Once a week, minimum. Yeah. Who's someone that's doing what you want to be doing, but doing it, like, perfectly? I feel like it's almost, like, David Dobrick. David Dobrick.
Starting point is 01:13:45 Yeah. When he was doing like a lot of those party, like part of vlogs. Yeah. I like, I like just fun vlogs like that. I like David Dobrick's vlogs. I mean, yeah, I'm trying to like,
Starting point is 01:13:54 this year I'm trying to like do it a lot more. It was like over the past two years like because of like COVID and stuff. Like I just felt like it was really hard to party and travel and stuff. So it was harder to pump out the videos. I also like to just do it like more naturally. I see it as like a progression into film and TV rather than just being a YouTuber forever. because my goal is ultimately to make my own film. And I've been contacted by like a huge film producer before.
Starting point is 01:14:20 And he said like you definitely have an idea. Like the way that you need to do it is just you got to come out with a great, great story. And then a studio will just, though, if it's great enough, like they'll fund it. Don't worry about trying to get funding from people and stuff like that. The studios right now, he was saying like, you know, they've got huge budgets and not enough ideas. What is your biggest problem right now? I want to be more consistent with my YouTube videos. How can you fix that?
Starting point is 01:14:49 I need more money. Because I want to spend a lot of money in my videos. You know what I mean? But you're already, like, you already, like, I'm looking at this thinking, how could you possibly spend more? What would you do? I want to have a private jet pajama party. But you really think I would do well on YouTube? Because, like, you've got to think A RAC is not spending that much money.
Starting point is 01:15:09 I think that would do well on YouTube. A private jet pajama party? Yeah. With a pillow fight, I really think it would. It's just a complete different audience. I think that's 30 seconds. I think that's 30 seconds. But that's not 30 seconds, bro.
Starting point is 01:15:19 A private jet pajama party, bro. I would watch that for like 10 minutes. But can't you just rent one of those jets that not up in the air and just pretend it's up in the air? Because I want to drop. I want to do like a drop as well. Some people like float a bit. I've done that before in the plane. Couldn't you rent out one of those zero gravity planes?
Starting point is 01:15:39 Wow. Eric did that. I'm thinking like Iraq's getting like what did he? He's doing it. I know how he comes up. I remember like a year and a half ago
Starting point is 01:15:48 he was like, I had no ideas and they're brainstorming it. Now it seems like every week. I'm like, how did you think of that? Probably just has people
Starting point is 01:15:55 that create ideas for him. I don't know. He's a grafter. He works so hard. You know, he deserves it. When do you think it's like getting too old to party
Starting point is 01:16:06 or do you think that just doesn't exist? Because we have a friend Jeremy Financial education. He has a podcast with Graham and this other guy, Andre. And we were all talking about, like, when can you stop partying? When is that awkward to be, to show your face at the club? And Jerry's all like, oh, once you're 30. You know, if your age starts with a three, then it's weird. And I'm like, no. You know what's crazy? The people who party the most, some of those clubs are probably in their mid-30s to early 40s. And those are the people who go like nuts at the
Starting point is 01:16:33 club. Yeah. What do you think? I'm going to be partying time dead, bro. I'm rolling stone. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm going to be in Monaco, 70, years old, like five hookers with me, like, cooling. Like, that's me. You know what I'm saying? But, like, I don't know what everyone else wants to do. But, like, I'm trying to be, I'm trying to, like, have fun. I think it just has to do with the confidence and how well, like, you, you fit in with
Starting point is 01:16:52 that crowd. How much money do you have to? Bobby, what would you say to me, a young man who's never been to a club? You've never been to a club? No, never. How old are you? 23. 23.
Starting point is 01:17:02 Wow. You don't want to go? I would love to go. Why haven't you been? Well, there's. Graham wouldn't go with me. So that basically checks out on that list. I highly doubt Alex would want to go with me.
Starting point is 01:17:17 My housemates, they're pretty indifferent about it. Jack has to go with either Grant Navar, Kevin Paffrat. I'd say go with someone who's going and getting the bottle service. You go to go with someone. I would go with you. I've never been to the club over. I need two weeks notice to go to the club. I want to go around.
Starting point is 01:17:35 Well, here's the thing. The club is shit if you don't. It's probably especially in Vegas. it's probably not fun unless you're with someone that has a table. Yes. You have to go with something. Like, if you went with your buddies, I guarantee you would have a better time at just one of the bars,
Starting point is 01:17:50 like the hotel bars, just chilling and hanging out and talking. Otherwise, you see the dance floor in Vegas, and it's like sardines of people. That's not fun, the dance floor? No,
Starting point is 01:18:01 I mean, when you're like, everyone has like this much space between each other. Yeah. Everybody. And people are like pushing. And you've got to be on a table or, some some the whole idea of like at the club like you're going to have fun if you're doing some
Starting point is 01:18:13 sort of something that's more VIP than anyone else because everyone just in the club like you know trying to look at each other what is this person what is that person doing but it's like if you're on a table and you got your own girls and your friends and everything you can dance there you get drinks that's that's that's fun but if you're in the club and you're just like hanging out like it's like what the fuck you'd wait 20 minutes to get a drink at the bar and you got to pay a cover yeah how much of the club is about just going and having fun dancing and meeting people and just having a good time versus a status, like, competitive environment.
Starting point is 01:18:42 Yeah, I'd say it depends where you are. Like, L.A. is very much like, who are you? It's like everyone's being too cool, like in the club. Like, it's because there's a lot of like, you know, influencers and. Yeah. And then like, so it's like, L.A. is not as fun to go out. And everyone knows that. It's more like at the after parties, like, is where you're going to have fun.
Starting point is 01:19:01 But in, like, London, you go out. And it's just like, bust in, like, so fun. So fun to go out in London or like, you know, in the Mediterranean and the summer. you know, beach clubs and like that's, that's fun. I'd say like L.A. is more of a scene. That's why, but they know that and they know that to get cool people to come like, and like girls and stuff, there's always promoter tables and like, you know, all these kind of, all these people are going for free because they want,
Starting point is 01:19:25 they want to have cool people at the club. That makes the club cool. Yeah, like Jason would get in all the time for free. And anywhere he would ever want to go is just walk right into the front door. Because, yeah, yeah, right. But, but also it's just like once you have that connection, they want you. there and they want people who go there who have a good time and that people like yeah so if you're gonna go there like get belligerent they're not gonna have you back but if you go there have a good
Starting point is 01:19:47 time you leave and you know what's the most like luxurious thing that you've ever done where where let's say someone did some service for you or you bought something where you're like holy cat like this is nice the part of the most luxurious thing I've ever done was when my dad first sold his company we went on like a world tour and he just said he sold his company and he bought a jet and then we went on a tour so we went from sydney we went to fiji hawaii alaska um chicago ukk and then um finished off in south of france which was cool how do you sick i was like that was when i was like 15 16 it was crazy because i'd never been in a jet before and all of a sudden we're like in our jet with our name on the back and I was like this is sick we're saying the
Starting point is 01:20:41 four seasons in Hawaii just cooling like that was probably like the most lux thing I think I've ever done it was sick huh what other questions you have for us um how you what do you think I should do what do you think I should do I think you need to pose more and I think there's only so much that you could do with money and I feel like at a certain point there's always going to be someone who could spend more money than you like Steve will do it. It was, no matter what you do, he will put that to shame by doing something else. And like, so I think you need to post more, but find an angle. And I think the B roll is good, but I wish there's more of a story.
Starting point is 01:21:20 Yeah. With every video of like a start to finish. Like a David Dobrick vlog where people get to know you more. Okay. That's what I would do. I don't think it needs to cost more. Yeah. Because I just, I want to make it.
Starting point is 01:21:34 I, I just like. I don't like doing like, for example, like what Aireck does. It's like a fool, like it's an idea and it's this whole video, right? I like to just have it like be my life. It was like reality TV. That's what I have fun doing. I think the issue, though, on YouTube, people want relatability. I want to feel like you're their friend.
Starting point is 01:21:51 And the reason David Dobrick did so well is even though he's like, you know, living in an $8 million house, you feel like you're with him and you're like part of his friend group and you're all like hanging out. And I feel like with you, people watch more as, like, an absurd. Like they're at the zoo just like watching this creature that's like oh the the billionaire's son and they feel a disconnect where it's like what prompts them to keep coming back besides like a wow factor and then after a while you'll keep the same wow factor and you'll have to keep one-uping it one-opping it to be like oh how crazy is it going to be today but I think building that relationship with your audience is really important and I think just humility of it and just being more relatable. I don't mean that you have to like you know eat it Chipotle to do that but I mean, like, I think just being more vulnerable, posting more. And I think twice a week.
Starting point is 01:22:40 That's what I do. Okay. Cool. But I think you could continue most of, like, what you're doing. But, like, the stuff about, like, living like that for five grand a month. Like, I think, yeah, there's probably going to be 10% of people who are like, it's a fake and just get, but you don't care about it. 90% of people, I think, would actually see that as, like, really cool and resonate with that more.
Starting point is 01:23:00 Okay. Nice. Cool. It's good. All right. Thank you so much for coming on, man. Did we cover everything you want to talk about? Yeah, man.
Starting point is 01:23:08 Thank you for having me. Heck yeah. That was really fascinating. Thank you. We'll link to your information down below. Oh, one more thing. You paid a to Tosie $1,000 for him to make a video. Why?
Starting point is 01:23:18 I feel like I like a Tosie more than the most out of anyone that's made videos on me. Okay. And he's always giving me advice and stuff. So I had like a thousand dollars budget to market for Paradise Black. And I was like, well, just give it to a Tosie and get him to make a video. And he was like, go out if I fucking say you paid me, I was like, yeah, fuck it. It's cool. I had $1,000 to blow on a video.
Starting point is 01:23:38 Are you friends with them? Yeah. Yeah, I met him once before. He's really nice. I've never met him, but we, we DM. Yeah, he's really cool. I like him. He's cool.
Starting point is 01:23:48 Well, of all the people who could get $1,000, I'm happy it was him. Yeah, yeah. I felt like he was the only one he deserved it. Cool. Good stuff. Well, thanks so much for coming on. It was honor meeting you and, uh,
Starting point is 01:23:59 we'll link to your information down below in the description. For free, by the way, doesn't cost anything. So thank you so much. Really appreciate it. But, oh, did you get your free stock down below in the description when you sent it for public with the code gram? Oh, I'll have to get that. You'll have to do that. It's worth all the way of 2,000 box.
Starting point is 01:24:16 That's sick. You could also add... It's anywhere between $3 and $1,000 and $1,000. You could add me on Instagram. You could add you on Instagram. And that's it. And you could also... So, with that same, guys.
Starting point is 01:24:26 You could join our mentorship. Yeah, don't forget to follow your boy on Instagram. What's your Instagram? Bobby Mizner. All right. Everything's just my name. Go. Easy.
Starting point is 01:24:34 Thanks, man. Well, thanks so much. And until next time. Cool. That was great. That was great. I really enjoyed that. Thank you so much.

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