The Iced Coffee Hour - Michael Reeves on Boxing, Engineering, and Fornite
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What do you what have you been up to today? Today? Yeah, what was your day like today?
Um, I was hanging out with Lily, uh, my girlfriend, uh, we like just went around.
We took, I took her to like a voiceover thing. She just like voiceover work. So I like took her to that.
we went and grabbed some food.
I went home, just, like, worked a little bit.
What type of voiceover work is it?
Is it for, like, animations or something?
It's for, like, anime, like, shows, different shows.
Like, pretty much whatever's, yeah.
Did she study that in college?
Is she just naturally?
No, I think, well, she's, like, pretty good at naturally,
but then she's also, like, taking, like, a bunch of classes,
and she's been, like, doing it for a while, so.
Really?
Yeah, yeah.
What is she booked?
Has she booked anything yet?
Yeah, she's done a lot.
She was actually in a Genshin Impact.
You know, what that is?
That, it's like an anime, it's like the world's largest anime game.
You know webes.
Webees?
Webe.
Webe?
You know weaves.
Webe is like someone who like watches anime.
Yeah.
It's a weeb.
Why is it?
Why is a weeb?
It's a, I think that's the,
Weiaboo is the Japanese word for like loser.
And so we've turned it to webe.
Oh, I didn't know that.
To know it.
So it's not a good term.
No, no.
You don't want to be called a weave.
People proudly wear the badge of being a weed.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, but it's become more, way more socially acceptable.
Like in recent times.
God.
God.
Like, like when, when,
when,
like middle school for me you were like you hid that yeah um and now you're like cool if you
like a narato shirt so are you a weeb no i mean i don't watch like that much anime yeah i have like a
you know i watch a lot but yeah not like an animal not like the anime animal yeah yeah exactly
would you do voiceover yourself yeah um yeah i would give it a shot i would give it a shot really
run a few lines dude yeah i feel like there's got to be a company out there who wants your voice
I think they're actually, I am talking to one right now, actually.
They just, I think they're making a video game and they just, like, need a random and I said, I'd do it.
Sounds fun.
And what would that entail?
Like, what would you say?
I don't actually know right now.
I can do screaming and stuff.
Really?
I do a lot of that.
Screaming?
I feel like video game stuff.
It's just like, oh.
I can do very gutterol.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Use that for like a sound effect, right?
What sound effect would that be?
Like you get hit or something?
Like you're underwater in the underwater scene.
You're struggling to get air?
Oh.
Can we license that and sell it?
Can we license that?
Yeah, dude.
You had to suck in air at the same time.
Oh!
Like that?
You had to suck in air and do it?
Yeah, no, it's good.
That's a good...
That was good.
That was good.
That was good.
That was wet.
That was a voice.
That was good.
I wanted to be a voiceover actor.
Really?
Really, when I was a kid?
Voiceover, like, for what?
Yeah.
So, when I was a kid, there was this group called The Cranky.
anchors.
Okay.
And they do these prank phone calls.
And I got a CD of it.
And I wanted to be like the crank anchors.
And they'd make these phone calls to people and they do different accents and like different
voices and they prank them on the phone.
So I got really into that.
So I started cranky anchors.
Was it a YouTube channel?
Jack, this is like 2003.
No.
Okay.
No.
This is a video.
Television.
This was a CD.
Oh, okay.
It was a CD that you bought, cranky anchors.
So I developed this voice of a grandma.
Okay.
I would call up, usually grocery stores, I'd be like,
Hi, I want to know if you have something for sale.
And, you know, I'd play a good, thanks.
That sounds like my grandma.
Really?
Yeah, kind of.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That, that's a, that's a great.
It's a girl.
It's a little bit.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But, uh, but yeah, yeah.
But, uh, it was better back then.
Yeah.
You know, times were different.
Yeah.
It's, uh, it's been quite a while.
But I'd call up these stores and just like, just have fun with, with my friends.
They just like,
ground with them.
Yeah.
We put it,
oh,
it was always someone
else's phone.
We put it on speaker phone
because I didn't have
a cell phone back then.
So I'd use someone else.
Oh, yeah,
yeah.
Type star 86.
Right.
Yeah,
yeah.
Star 6,
7, I think.
Yeah.
Star 6, 7.
I call up,
we'd get a laugh out of it
and we do the next one.
Yeah.
So I really wanted to get
into voiceovers for a while.
Oh, that's cool.
Yeah.
There's still time.
Yeah.
Still get into it.
Yeah.
So we got to talk about some things
because last time we had you on,
we had this big disagreement.
I wouldn't say we, I would say mostly between you and Graham.
Let's save that for later.
You want to save that for later?
Michael posted his first video in like two years.
Okay.
Let's talk about the video you post.
You said you were very late on it, right?
I was pretty late on that boxing video.
Yeah, I wanted that to come out like the same months.
This is great a clutch.
And then seven months passed, yeah.
What happened?
Like, I made a thing where, like, you bought, it forces you to box with, like,
electricity in your arms.
And, like, I finished the fucking, like, the,
part where it forces you to like punch like 10 months ago and then I was like that's pretty cool
and funny and then I was like okay what if I and that was it that was the whole plan like it was just the
arms and then I was like okay what if you did like a rail system and like moved the people I was like
that would be funny and I predicted that that would take two weeks and it took maybe three or four months
to like actually get that done why what was what was so complicated about the rail system because
like order the rails back and forth right I order the
rails from like China.
It needed to be pretty hefty rails
because it needed like to experience
a lot of like dynamic force and like a lot of
ways because there's like
lifting force because like it's like
your body and then you like you know
if something's like straight up and it
does this it like falls over a little bit right
yeah sure you're like experiencing like a lifting
thing so it has to like take a lifting
force so I don't know
I ordered these rails from China on
Ali Express and they were good they worked
were the wrong. Were they custom made
Or did you have to...
No, no, they're just like huge guide rails built for like CNC machining stuff.
So like, you know, if like a machine that, you know, just like creates, has like a huge spindle and like cuts metal and shit, you need like a really bulky rail.
They just sell it in like different sizes.
So I bought like in the knockoff version of that.
I think like if you bought like the good quality high wind version of that, it would have been like five or $6,000.
But these were like like $800 or less kind of.
800 seems like a lot though.
For the rails?
I mean, it's a lot of steel.
And it's like, compared to like the good one, the one that's like an industry standard,
high quality one, it's like, it's almost nothing.
Like, who would buy, who would buy your rails that you buy?
Yeah, like, for a while.
Well, my rails actually were destroyed by the rains recently in Los Angeles.
They were fully flooded my garage.
Your garage was fully flooded.
Oh, yeah, dude, like two inches.
Really?
Yeah, the place I live at has a garage that is like below ground level, but just by like three inches.
But that's enough to just get absolutely shit on.
by any rain that happens in LA.
Do you just wake up one morning,
go to the garage
and it was just covered?
Yeah, and it's like,
it's so fucking bad.
And there's rust everywhere.
Like, destroyed the thing.
Do you have renters insurance?
Um,
no,
maybe.
No, I think I do actually.
To rent in the house,
I think I do have to have a room.
I think you have to have a rich.
Yeah.
They would pay for it.
Yeah.
You just tally up how much money you lost on that
and they'll reimburse you for rails.
Yeah, maybe at the end of the least.
I really like this house.
So I got set up in the garage.
Well, no, no, but it's through your insurance company.
Not through the landlord.
Oh, that's cool.
Yeah.
That's pretty sweet.
You pay $20 a month and you call them up for your stuff.
I do.
I do have that.
Yeah.
So you call them up and say, hey, I got a boxing thing in the garage on rails.
It's destroyed.
Here is my cost on it.
Yeah.
There's my receipt.
They'll reimburse you for that sort of stuff.
If your property's damaged.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I should.
Yeah.
Sometimes, like, when it's raining, I have to go out there with the shop vac and, like, pump
the water out from the floor so my shit doesn't get destroyed.
So you made this robot.
How did that take you three months?
Dude, just the rail part was just so fucked.
Like, I ordered the wrong rails from China, and then I ordered them again.
Really?
Yeah, dude, I was so stupid.
I think I was just, like, out of it that day.
I, like, measured the size that they had to travel.
But, like, I did not realize that had...
Like, I didn't think about the fact it had to move, so it actually had to be double that size, which sucked.
So it was just, like, a lot of waiting for China to do it.
I had to drill 40 holes in the concrete of my garage.
What, to support it?
It's bolted to the concrete.
Yeah, because it's like a lot of force going through that.
Like, you're moving and shit.
So it's just steel drilled in a concrete,
holding these big plates and rails down.
Right.
Was your landlord not like?
I was not thinking about that too.
So I, so the garage is fucked.
It's like absolutely fucked.
Like everything's off kilter.
I called an electrician to do my lights and he said,
I literally cannot touch this wiring system.
It's so bad that I might lose my license.
So it's like a garage.
So it's like, I'll fill in the holes, you know.
I'll do it when I leave.
Okay.
Like, it's not like, I'm ruining it as fucking pristine.
There's like a two inch lip to get in the garage.
Like it's a concrete shit lip that they put in, like hopefully to keep the rain out.
It does not keep the rain out.
If anything, it holds the rain in.
Like a toilet bowl.
Oh my God.
So I'm not destroying anything crazy nice.
Okay.
Yeah.
But I'll fill it in before I leave as like a, like, you know, like to be nice.
Sure.
But like the dry walls.
Like you can kick the dry wall lightly.
ended the falls apart how old is the house i'm not sure okay yeah old enough to have like a few additions
put on it so okay yeah yeah quite quite old i mean i really like it though okay yeah so when did you
start this video that got posted seven months after the boxing event you just i don't even remember
woke up one day it was so long ago so long i don't remember yeah i think it was uh well you must
have started it what after ian reached out to you yeah okay um but still that was like a year and a half
ago basically
Yeah, yeah, something like that.
So you started about a year and a half ago on that video.
Yeah, and then it started like getting serious and then credit clash and then.
Yeah, but you have an interesting process with your videos of like you explained it the first time of like you'll come up with the idea, film just like the intro, edit that and then as you go, you'll just throw it on and like keep editing like throughout and then be done at the very end.
Yeah, yeah.
That is how I like to do it.
Yeah.
Sometimes like when I have to not do that, I hate it.
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I got into motorcycles recently.
You did.
And so it's kind of about that.
I went on an adventure in the deserts of San Diego by myself, which was fun.
The motorcycle.
Yeah, yeah.
How long was the adventure?
Just like a day or two.
But it was fun.
Enough, like, there's, you know, a lot of things went wrong.
So that's good.
That's good for content.
What goes wrong with the motorcycle?
The motorcycle was totally fine, actually.
Yeah, my truck, I got this truck from the city of, like, of L.A.
It's like white, you know those trucks, like the city truck.
No.
Like, it's just a white truck and it's got like a van.
No, just like a pickup truck.
And it's got like the orange light on top.
Did you buy it?
Yeah.
It was like $4,000.
Okay.
Cool.
Well, because it's a secondhand city truck.
Sure.
And it's like 20 years old.
It's only got 80,000 miles on it somehow.
It's not bad.
But like, I can do anything.
I can park anywhere and I flip the light on.
Dude,
Oh,
it's where you left?
The light on?
Oh,
you meant like a city truck.
I had to call them and be like,
hey,
don't take the light off.
I want that light.
Yeah,
after they like,
get the use out of them,
they'll give them to like people to sell
like whoever used cars guys
and I bought it from them.
And dude,
I can go in it.
I can do anything.
I'm like God in the truck.
It's incredible.
I like,
like if I,
one time I was like picking my girlfriend up
and there was a kind of Uber drivers,
I just turned the light on and honked.
Everyone moves out of the way.
Are you serious?
Dude, I got a fucking high-vis vest in the glove compartment.
So anytime I need, I just throw on the hive's vest.
Dude, instead of getting junk removal, I make so much trash at my house.
I throw in the back of the truck.
I drive around the place I live.
I just put in the high-vis vest and dump it in anyone's dumpster.
And like apartment complex dumpsters, restaurant dumpsters, like on trash day.
You know, they're throwing it away anyway.
And no one stops you because you're in a white truck.
You're in a white truck with a light on top and you're wearing a hyvis vest.
Even they look at it.
It's confidence, though.
I do that.
I do that as well and dump another piece of trash cans.
I don't have the best.
We keep it classy.
We do it on trash thing.
I do the night before.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we keep it classic.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Late at night, preferably so nobody sees.
And I try to be...
And I try to be really quiet to, and I put in the trash so gently so that it doesn't make any sound.
Yeah, it's getting thrown away anyway.
It is.
Like, it's fine.
Yeah.
I have that problem as well.
You know, they sell police cars just like that.
Really?
With the lights on and everything.
And aren't those retrofitted to be, like, faster and, like, better cars?
I don't know if they are.
But there was a Crown Victoria that was for sale in Vegas.
It was 4,500.
look legitimately with like the lights the proper lights the cage in the back the the two lights
in front that's funny but people who buy those are weird though unless it's like for fun so i was
tempted to get one i think it outside of the house i think you should and just keep it there because
that's a fun yeah it's not like your daily driver you know but like yeah but i think it would be
cool that would be cool that would be cool so i think it'd be really neat why didn't you do it i just
thought it's a waste of money like realistically i thought it would be fun to park it up front of the house
And everyone comes up and they're like, oh, he's got a cop car in the front.
Yeah.
And then I drive it every now and then.
I thought it would just be cool.
That does not kind of fun.
But then I thought, like, realistically, it's like five grand.
Let's say all in.
I don't need that.
You don't need the $5,000.
I don't need that in my life right now.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So where did you get the inspiration to buy the city car?
Like, I've never thought about buying something like that.
It's great.
I was just looking for a truck to put my motorcycle in.
Is it on Craigslist or something?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah. Actually, right after the fight, I took like a dirt biking lesson and thought it was really fun.
Huh. So, oh, you're like dirt biking, not motorcycle. Oh, I do both, but I got one that can like on the dirt and the road.
Oh, nice. It's like a Harley or anything like that. No, no. Like it's a dual sport. It's like a, uh...
KTM? It's a, it's a, Yamaha. Yamaha. 250, yeah. It's like a nice little, like, you know, going to the desert, but then also right on the road. It's fun. Yeah. That is so funny. How much is it? How much was it? I don't know, like... They're not expensive.
No, no, like $6,000 to something.
That's a little price, yeah.
Did you buy new?
It was new, yeah.
It was new, but it also gets like, whenever I fill it with gas, it's like $8 for the full-time, which is nice.
What prompted that?
Why?
I think I was driving him back from Vegas one day.
Well, there were like a couple of things.
One was like this YouTuber, you know Casey Nystead?
Yeah.
His brother, his brother, Van Nystad.
Yeah.
And he had a really cool motorcycle series.
where he like, I think it was footage from like 10 years ago,
but he like went across the US and that looked really fun.
And also I was driving back from Vegas once
and I saw a dude on a dirt bike and I saw that that look super sick.
And so I took a dirt bike lesson.
Now when you were driving back from Vegas,
saw the guy in the dirt bike,
was that like not on the road,
but like off of the road.
Oh yeah,
just like right off the side.
There's trails.
I was like,
damn,
that looks sweet.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
How was it?
How was it my experience?
Yeah, is what it lived up to be?
Yeah, it's super fun.
I don't like doing hitting jumps.
I just like go in a cool spot that cars can't go to, which is sweet.
There's a couple of cool spots above L.A.
There's this place called, like, Roller Flats.
You go, like, 50 miles up a hill.
Like, you climb a mountain.
And then on the other side, like, a big old lake, which is really sweet.
Huh.
Yeah, yeah.
I was thinking about, like, doing some, like, camping or something, like, thrown into tent.
And then so now every, you know how you're talking like, it took, what, 10 minutes to get, like, a mile.
Now it's, like, actually, like, you know, a mile's worth of time to get a mile.
It's because you're just going in between the cars.
Have you done that?
Yeah, yeah, I do that. You do that? All the time, yeah. It's great. It is, it is, for Los Angeles, I cannot drive a fucking car anymore. It, it, it, it, I think I was going to take my bike over here, actually. But yeah, yeah, yeah, it's kind of raining. Yeah, but, like, just for transportation, it's super nice. What was your first time, like doing that?
Because you must have had a moment
They were like, I could do it
Oh, maybe not
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
I just wanted to get like groceries at the start
Because the store is like, what time, what time of day that matters
Like at night first
Okay
And then like I was like oh during
Day this time
And then it was like oh dude I could do that
And then I got my license
And um
You got your license after you did that
After you were running it
Yeah yeah yeah yeah
Yeah all right
Yes yeah um I've never been pulled over on it
But it's nice
It's super dangerous
I've almost been hit so many times.
Really?
Yeah, it's fucking crazy.
I mean, but it's nice because like, like, there's a traffic.
It's like I actually get to a place when Google says I'll get to a place.
Or before I Google says I get to a place.
Yeah, but is that worth the danger.
It's the fun, I think, is the sham that makes up for it in between those two balancing factors.
It is so fun, Graham.
It is fucking crazy.
It is wicked fun.
What do you hate most about L.A.?
I don't really like traffic.
Yeah, traffic is pretty asses.
I don't like, like,
I don't know.
Like, in Hawaii, there's, like, not a lot of barrier to enter to just, like, do whatever, you know?
It's, like, get food at the minutes, or the 7-Eleven.
Just 7-Eleven food's super good in Hawaii.
Just, like, go there and then go to the beach.
And, you know, it's, like, a 20-minute thing.
Or, like, you know, super easy.
Just, like, hop in a car and do whatever.
But here, it's, like, I almost, you know, you're stuck in traffic and it's, like, ass.
And then there's a lady yelling at you.
And then someone almost hits you.
So, yeah.
It's just, like, a nice.
Sure.
I was with you on that.
I lived in L.A. or Santa Monica, I guess, with Graham and his guest house for a year. And I had a strong distaste for out. I like. I did not. I liked living. That whole living situation was amazing. Extremely grateful for that. That was fun. But anytime I tried to leave anywhere, it was just like the biggest pain in the butt. And also Santa Monica started going downhill a little bit. Like it started getting dirtier. It was a little sketchier going out at night and stuff like that. So I was, I just did not like L.A. And I've maintained that for a long time. I feel you on that. I like the people and, you know, that's nice. Yeah.
I'm kind of like enjoying it a little more now.
Okay.
Like getting out of the house now.
Would you ever leave?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Or where do you go?
I kind of want to live in Japan for a year someday.
I could see that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Just like cross that one off like the bucket list.
You could see PewDie Pie up there.
Exactly.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I can't believe he's ever.
I've seen some of his vlogs there.
They're really interesting.
It seems like it's fun to go to like Tokyo and like spend like a month or two there.
Right, yeah.
Have you ever been to Japan?
Never.
It is, it's super fun.
You should go.
Really?
Yeah.
One day.
You can also get some, you can business expense it and do your tax.
Yeah.
You really can.
I mean, like, you expense the whole trip and like, I could vlog it.
We do a, we do a, you know, we do a family vlog.
You know, research there.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Market research.
Do a podcast, yeah.
All your foods expense.
Dude, it is so fun.
What do you like about Japan?
I enjoy the walkability of the cities.
Like pretty much anywhere you want to go, you can go.
Like, you can, without a car, which is nice.
So you can, like, hop on, um, just generally, you, you, you,
You can walk and there's like, you know, great corner store.
The 7-Eleven food is also super good, like convenience store food, which I like a quick
bite to eat.
If you need to get anywhere in a city, you just like take a train.
And the train system's like super fast, super easy.
That's super nice.
Once you learn it, I mean, it's kind of overwhelming first.
But eventually like you like, you don't get a little card.
Even on your phone, you can just tap your phone on the little turnstile and you get in,
tap it when you get out.
It charges you automatically.
You don't worry about it.
What if you don't speak Japanese?
Is it how easy is this navigate?
In Tokyo?
Like, it's pretty good.
It's pretty easy.
Really?
Yeah.
I mean, you can pick up, like, the words that are like, I'm sorry and shit, you know.
How do you say I'm sorry?
Ah, sumimasan.
Summisen.
Summissan.
Summissan.
Summissan.
All right, go men, if you're, like, super, or, like, casual.
If you need to go from city to city, you can get on a Shinkansen, like a bullet train.
Yeah.
It feels like, it goes so fast.
It feels like being on a plane just on the ground, like right before you take off, but that's it the whole way.
The whole way.
They go, like, 300 miles an hour.
Wow.
It's fucking, like, when it turns.
the tracks bank a little bit because it needs to.
It's going so fucking fast.
Yeah, it's so fast that air pressure,
sometimes in the tunnels,
it becomes super loud because it's pushing
such a high quantity of air.
It's beautiful.
You can just get around the country on a train
and you can do anything.
It's like spot in Tokyo where it's like,
it's called Golden Guy that I really liked.
It was like, it's a collection of like a hundred tiny bars.
And each bar only says like five people.
So like you're like in an intimate situation
with your bartender and anyone else.
in there. Like, you have to talk to them. It's just like how it goes. And so you're like,
there's like super nice people who will like teach you a little Japanese and you'll teach them
a little English. Or like, uh, if they don't speak it good, plug Google Translate and you like
meet both ways. Really? Yeah, I had a bartender, she pulled out Google Translate and I pulled out
Google Translate and it's like a fucking. You just swamped on it. And it's like something and they
give them back. It was so fun. It was a blast. That's cool. Yeah. Yeah. What's stopping you from going
there now? Like to live? Yeah. Um, I think a little, probably a little more time here.
I'm still here with my
like the lease on my current place isn't up
but I would do it
I would definitely do it sounds fun
like for like a year you know
it would be fun I think that would be a blast
I could do a week or two for sure
yeah yeah you should go over just for like
I want vacation first I can't have to travel anywhere
like I've done North America
yeah done that but yet to really see anything beyond that
yeah so that's something I'm looking forward to
you should do it yeah it would be fun
And you can make some good content out of it.
There's so much, like, random bullshit to do in Japan.
Yeah.
So we got these.
I'm going to pop it open.
It's Happy Dead.
So we did a podcast the other night with John.
And he's the CEO of Happy Dead.
Okay.
And he gave us a whole bunch of these.
That's nice.
So I'm going to try it.
It's a banana.
It's not cold.
It's not, but.
Banana flavor.
It's very good.
It's very good.
The fucking NFT on the side is so goddamn obnoxious.
I have to like cover it with my hand out of shame
yeah I'm with you on that
you don't want any screenshots
I'm with you on that
yeah no screenshots of
I taste pretty good though
it's not bad
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For a seltzer,
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See,
this is where we can now talk
about the differing philosophies
because Graham is now talking
to Michael about
making his own product or service
he can sell something.
Right?
So the last podcast,
like I kind of alluded to earlier,
there was a big difference
in philosophy
between both.
with you and Graham. Graham was very much of the case like,
you know, why are you not grinding? Why are you not pumping out a bunch of content?
Why are you not capitalizing, striking while the iron's hot?
Like your stuff is blowing up. You could be making a ton of money.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And you were very much the type of like, I'm having fun living the life.
I'm living right now, like kind of chill in a lot of the time.
But also working, of course, when I need to and also when I want to, not really,
when I feel like I have to, you know?
Yeah, yeah, I should definitely work more.
I think we can meet in the middle someday.
Probably.
Probably.
You can go to Japan. I can work a little more.
I'm gonna do two videos a year.
Two videos a year.
I feel like you should just do one a month.
Two videos here.
One of a month.
Oh, dude.
You could do it.
Dude, I'm not going.
Dude, if you had someone just on you every day, just like, you know, waking you up at 7 a.m. be like, you gotta work.
Dude, why would you do that to yourself?
Jesus Christ.
You could crank out.
The best videos, though.
I would like this, uh, yeah.
I'm excited to make this vlog, even if I don't release it anywhere.
Just like, maybe it's just like, maybe it's just like, maybe it's just like,
You may not release it anywhere?
I'll throw it on my Patreon, maybe.
Those poor fuckers have...
Did they get one video a year too?
Oh, dude.
They're the strongest soldiers that have ever lived, dude.
Those poor bastards.
What do they get?
Yeah.
So, wait, explain this.
How much is the Patreon?
And, like, what was included or what's the...
It's not a huge portion, but...
Yeah.
It's actually, like, they get so fucking little, and they're still there.
It's crazy.
So I am trying to throw them.
I mean, it's not like a crazy amount of people, but Jesus Christ, these.
But they're dedicated.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I'm going to try and give this video at least to Patreon before, if I ever post it.
But definitely for Patreon.
Yeah.
How long do you think this video is going to take in the post-production?
Oh, I'm like six minutes in.
I'm almost done.
Okay.
I mean, yeah, I got all the footage.
There's nothing like really to improve on.
You know, it's just like a fun situation.
So why are you content living the way that you are right now?
You know, working like when you want to and taking like breaks and spending your free time, like having fun with your friends.
You are a unicorn when it comes to that.
To have the luxury to post like once a year.
Yeah.
And the one video you post, man, blows up.
Everyone loves it.
I could get my bank account up.
I really could.
I really could.
But, um, uh, uh, I don't know.
Uh, I don't know.
Yeah.
I love it.
I don't know, dude.
Yeah.
If I'm busy grinding, everyone else's lives go on as well.
So, you know, yeah, can't get that back.
But, like, what's an average day look like for you?
Fucking wake up.
Crack pipe.
Instant.
Nice.
Fortnite.
Chug.
Chug.
Fournight is actually a big part of my days.
Do you really play Fortnite?
A lot, yeah, yeah.
Dude, my housemates fucking, we fucking love Farnight, dude.
Really?
Yeah.
This is how fucking Jack's talking about pickleball.
I thought he was fucking with me.
He's, like, unironically, the last pickleball.
This is my pickleball.
ironically like Fortnite. Yeah, I fucking love Fortnite, yeah.
The new season. I play the shit out of it.
I actually kind of like it. Really? Yeah, yeah.
Well, they got me back in and they added like the cloud back, the Dragon Bell Z cloud.
Okay.
I kind of like some of the new guns too. It took some getting used to.
Yeah, I didn't like it. It was the, um, the, the, the event, the, um, the, the,
there's always a start of the season event, and this event was dog shit.
This was a really sad way to start a season. Usually the really cool thing.
Dude, I had the saddest fucking story of, the saddest day of my life. The saddest day of
entire life. Worse than my dog dying. Worse than my childhood dog perishing. Dude, we
fucking, my roommates are out of town for like a month plus seeing family. They get back the day
that this new fortnight season drops. We zoom to LAX. We pick them up. All we're fucking talking about
in the car. Fortnite. This new season is going to be sick. We get home, sit at our computers,
just straight. Dog shit for an hour, right? Like it's the worst like starting event I've ever seen
in my life.
It was just like terrible.
And then a black screen and it says,
Fortnite will return eventually.
And the servers are down for the rest of the day.
And like the next 72 hours.
And we were,
fuck,
we were so sad.
This is the lowest point in my entire time.
I don't think Graham feels any sympathy for this.
I don't get it.
When you're saying,
you're saying season,
like it's a show.
So they come out to,
they change the map up.
Yeah.
When you're going around killing people like,
yeah,
they keep it fresh.
You know,
if you have the same shit.
Sure.
Constantly.
So season is like a big change.
Not some new shit.
Okay.
Yeah.
So we don't call it like Fortnite.
two. No, no, because same game. Yeah, yeah, same game. Yeah. Dude, I fucking got on LinkedIn and I
messaged every Fortnite engineer. No, you didn't. And someone responded to me.
No, what did they say? She said, it would be back in about 72 hours, or like, fucking 5 p.m. the next
morning or something. She responded. It was incredible. And what did you say back?
Thank you. Well, I mean, thank you for responding to me. Yeah. I feel bad for bugging them.
I did it kind of as a joke, but. Got it.
Really responded.
It was so sad.
It would be funny if they knew you.
Be like, I'm like,
Michael Reeves.
Just send me a message.
Guys,
you got to hurry this up.
Got to speed things up.
Michael's waiting.
But yeah,
that's a fun thing I do with my,
my housemates.
I'm not going to lie,
Graham.
There was probably a month of time in my life.
Probably,
honestly,
it's probably three months,
two months.
Really?
Yeah.
Where I was like at night?
Oh, yeah.
I was like grinding Fortnite.
When?
When was this?
This is probably recent?
No,
it was just before the launch of the new season.
And I was like,
I was like super into it.
p.m. I would play for like three hours every single night. I would grind, you know, and I bought the
pass and everything. Oh, you got a ballast. Yeah. What's the point? What's the point is, it's just fun,
man. It's, you escape reality, man. So all of the worries that you have, the anxieties of the next day,
the dread that you have of the past, that disappears and you, you live in the present to get a
winner, winter, winter chicken dinner, man. To get the victory royale. Absolutely fucking rush of a
victory royal. You got to get the victory royale. Also, um, well, they make, like, they make,
like winning a little more rare than other games.
It's hard.
Yeah,
because it's like only one person or team can win out of like 100 people.
So it's like,
it's a validating enjoyable time when you are the one.
Yeah.
But also like it's fun for like if you have a group of people,
you know,
like connecting with your friends.
It's like a fun group experience.
You know,
it's like a teamwork thing.
You work together towards a common goal and then achieve it.
What do you get for winning?
You get to,
you get to emote on the people who lost.
Yeah.
Emoat on them.
on them. What does that mean? So you
do a dance. You kill them and then you
like do a dance. You at the end of the game
you got to do that. You gotta do the L dance on them. You gotta do
the L dance. They can't see you. They can't see you. They can't. Yeah.
It's literally just to see the
screen that says you won. Yeah. But it's just a good feeling. It's like, I don't know.
Why do people like games where you build towards
something like Clash of Clans or like other games like RPGs where you feel
like you're advancing and evolving? Yeah. It's similar to sports
I think where like it's similar to sports. You know, you work together as a team,
common goal and then like fucking i don't know what is you know the high school football team get they
just get to say hey we won you know their score is bigger than the answer sure right so yeah i just
don't i don't get it that i just don't get it yeah michael probably doesn't understand your
constant focus on like you know doing the business jack it's called right call the right
financial acumen and you'd be killing it in fortnight dude not yeah oh if you could divert its
focus to fortnight yeah oh it'd be you'd be it would be over you'd be a monster i could see it
I get addicted to things, though.
If I find something I really like, that's all I will do.
I know how I just get all hyped about that.
I'm sure you feel the same way.
I think you'd hate Fortnite, that way.
Yeah, because the thing is, like, there's a learning curve.
Just like if you've never played a video game before,
you've got to learn how to use them.
Dude, it is not a fun of my first video game, for sure.
Yeah, there are a million more video games that you'd probably.
Like, what would you recommend for somebody getting into video games?
You play Minecraft, really?
Yeah.
Play Minecraft.
Or, like, if you like, a story, if you're like, I don't get a video game.
A good story-based game is good, you know, because,
It's like a movie.
And you like
GTA movies, maybe.
So yeah, you get to experience
a movie through
your gameplay.
That's fun.
Yeah.
I love Nintendo 64.
That's kind of where I left off
was that.
What did you play?
Gosh, almost all of them.
My favorite games
Conquers Bad Fur Day.
One of my favorite games.
I played Banjo Kizui,
Banjo Tuji,
Super Mario.
Yeah.
Golden Eye.
Actually, the two Golden Eyes.
Yeah.
And then the racing games
are really fun.
Oh,
gosh and then um yoshi
yoshi's story oh yeah
i think it was a that was a fun one good games
yeah yeah i love those
like the mario one was just a classic
it was great for mario sixty four
actually i got the magazines back then
like i'd get stuck and they'd sell those magazines
for like the tutorials you're a gamer dude yeah i would get stuck
at a level and then they'd sell those like those cheat
sheets yeah so i'd go through and i'd find
where the hidden things are to go through and then i got a game
Shark.
Remember this?
You got like a cheating game.
Yeah.
Oh my God,
that leveled me up.
Yeah.
Because then I just get unlimited
everything.
That's where you ran off the rails.
That's right.
They stopped playing shortly after that.
Because it stopped becoming fun after that.
Exactly.
No, I had action replay
into GameShark as it
just ruins the game.
It did.
Oh, I got GameShart.
The big one was GameShark
for Pokemon on the Game Boy.
Yep.
And I would get all the rare candy.
So all my Pokemon would be level 100.
I'd have all the rare ones.
I had the Mew.
But then I'd be trading the Mew
with other kids
in class who didn't have the meal.
Dude, congratulations.
You got it so good that you efficiented all the fun out of the game.
He grind it all the fun out of it.
There's no struggle anymore after that.
Yeah, because I'd get the master ball for the Articuno.
I remember getting stuck on that for like a week trying to catch that articuno.
And then one game shark, done.
And yeah, yeah, you just have it.
And I got it.
That's magical.
Yeah.
Oh, that's where it all changed.
Are there any cheating things with Fortnite?
No.
They're super like anti-cheat.
There was a dude that streamed himself cheating on Fortnite and he got banned immediately.
You can download like AIMBots and stuff like that.
So you drop in lobbies.
And then there's this like software that basically finds the other person's head and then moves the cursor.
I think I saw it.
It was like a sunny V2 video on that.
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
Like the video game.
That was a good video.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The AIMBon.
Yeah.
Word show.
And it's like the thing just like, bloop.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Pretty much since the start of every multiplayer game, that has been a problem.
Yeah.
And so they're getting more.
intense with the anti-cheats.
Even in chess, there's like a legend cheaters.
Get into your bundle.
They're alleged, yep.
Do you think that's real?
I don't know.
I could admit.
That's awesome.
That would be a great video for you to do.
I think Mike Boyd made that.
I think Mike Boyd made a, because it's, you could do it better.
Dude, it's like, I'd probably be a taser.
Dude.
That's actually really smart.
People could see you being really good at chess.
That's the thing.
Oh, true.
So if you could somehow trick, like, what's it, Hikaru or something?
And you'd be like, hey, man, I've been training a ton.
Yeah.
Like the Boat has sisters and you beat them in dress.
Dude, that would be so good.
Fuck.
That was hilarious.
What was that, Michael?
Nothing.
That would be good.
Yeah, that would be funny.
Yeah.
I think you should do that.
I think that's a hit video.
There's 10 million view right there.
You get it sponsored by someone will sponsor it.
Like Adam Eve will sponsor that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That would be sweet.
I want to make an LED.
man.
The RGB butt plug, the chest of the dark.
Yeah.
So do you feel much of a pressure to be working harder right now?
Like a little bit.
I kind of want to make more videos, so.
You want to make more videos?
And what's the reason why you want to make more videos?
Because it would be fun.
It would be sweet, I guess.
Yeah, yeah, it would be nice.
It would be nice to have my first page on my YouTube channel filled out.
I think I'm on my second page now.
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You go to the second page
I think I want two pages
That would be sick
That would be cool
Yeah yeah
At least I'm getting an easy one out of the vlog
That one's quick and easy
That you have like perfectionism
Like to a pretty serious degree
Like you, it's hard for you
To feel content with the video
Yeah I want it to be good
So yeah
It takes
Yeah probably
What would you say
Are the limiting factors
To you posting more
Um
That effing dub in Fortnite
baby.
Yeah.
So,
Fortnite didn't exist.
You would be
like posting in my
seattle.
Every fucking week.
You would be posting
every day
if Fortnite's not a thing.
But what about
the guys that you
play Fortnite with?
Like they have jobs,
right?
Yeah,
yeah, they do.
Do you play solos?
No, no,
no,
I always play it with people.
Okay.
Yeah.
So what do you do
when they're at work?
Fucking other stuff
I guess.
I try to get
some work done.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Sometimes it's tough to get through an edit.
But, uh...
Do you just lose interest at a certain point
where it's like you spent so long on something?
And it's like, oh, man, I'm not another day of this.
Yeah, from time and time.
Yeah, but...
Yeah.
So I'm gonna try and get it like where...
I have like a good grasp of the video
or like the idea as a whole.
Because sometimes, like, I make like too many auxiliary pieces of shit, you know?
Like, like rails or like...
Like for the boxing video.
like um just like side things that have like nothing to do with the start of the video but i'll like
you know take like two or three weeks to build them i'll be like that didn't actually save any time
for the for the video making experience so yeah i'll probably like cut down on on those and just like
maybe i'll see how fast i can make a video from like to start to finish that'd be interesting
to document that post that on your patreon oh yeah that would be a great thing to to give the patreon
those like the behind the scenes of a video dude those fuck god damn unisef needs to send them something
them. So they basically do the Patreon and they say like whatever you give us, if it's anything,
we're happy for it, but we just want to support you.
Yeah, for a lot of part.
God, those poor fuckers.
Oh, are you going to Crater Clash, too?
Yes.
Dude, I'm so excited.
Are you really?
I am so fucking, yeah, dude, I'm going to be screaming.
I'm going to lose my fucking voice again.
I lost my voice at the chess boxing.
Oh, you went to that.
Yeah.
How was it?
That was sweet.
That was fun as fuck, actually.
Really?
Yeah, yeah.
It's fun to be on the outside, for sure, much more fun than doing it.
So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Being on the outside, it's like you're getting me excited for everything and like just fucking be high.
Because like, also we have like a unique perspective where it's like, you know how it feels like you're doing that?
And you're like fucking so glad it's not me.
I know.
I'm looking for it.
Yeah, I can't wait.
Dude, I'm so excited.
Did Ian invite you to do this second?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, we're gone.
Yeah.
Hell yeah.
Extremely excited.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm looking forward to.
Damn.
Did Ian invite you to go to the second one?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think everyone who fought in the first got invited to, to the second.
Dude, he, fuck, he almost got me with,
I said the only guy I'd fight again would be fucking,
um,
fuck,
Gary Vee.
No way!
But like,
there's no way in the world that,
like,
it's Gary Vee,
because like,
Gary Vee's,
like,
he's like,
he's,
you know?
He is?
But he's,
he's like 50s, right?
That would be the,
such a fight.
I know, right?
Dude,
dude,
he would go crazy with his odds.
Dude,
yeah.
He almost,
yeah,
so,
yeah, so, like,
that's just an impossibility,
though,
because he's,
like,
busy all the time, which I kind of knew, because I wasn't really wanted to do it a second time,
unless it was Gary Vee.
You just want to take down all the finance people.
Yeah, I know.
Oh, my God.
Just work your way through this, man, one by one.
He almost got me with Froggy Fresh, though.
Dude, do you know who Froggy Fresh is?
He's fighting in the second one.
Okay.
Against, I think, Chris Regan, I think.
Actually, I'm not exactly sure he's fighting, but he is, like, early internet.
He had, like, some funny videos.
He was, like, on Tosh.0.
Oh, cool.
Yeah, he had like some really funny shit early on.
And now he's like reemerged to, to fight.
Which is like, he looks jacked as fuck too, which I'm excited for.
That'd be freaky.
Yeah.
Oh, I got to see what he looks like.
Dude, from before.
And then now it's like crazy.
He had like a fucking beard now and like a chest tattoo and he's like jacked.
Yeah.
I'm glad.
Yeah, I'm glad I didn't fight him.
So, so, but you were on the edge a little bit?
Like maybe, maybe doing it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But yeah, it's a crazy.
I already make like not that many videos.
So I think that's probably a part of why that video also takes a lot.
I was like, dude, like so much time, like just boxing training.
So it's like, yeah.
Yeah.
You know how it is.
But what if you got Gary V?
Would you really, you would do it?
I would do it.
I would do it.
I would do it.
I would do it.
You really are that confident you could take it.
No, I don't care.
Maybe he'd be the shit out of me.
I don't know.
Because it's funny.
It's funny.
It's funny.
Yeah.
I think he's like, I think we're the same height.
I did not know that.
I thought, I thought Gary V was like 58 or something like.
I don't care.
It doesn't matter.
It's scary.
I would do it.
I would do it.
Yeah, because that's so funny.
He's also like 50.
So like that would be a good advantage.
That would be the funniest.
That would be the funniest fight.
I know.
That would be funny as fuck.
That might actually be fair.
If he's like in his 50s, taller.
Yeah.
But you know,
you're younger.
Yeah.
More agile.
You're not going to throw your back out.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I thought that would be funny.
But I'm,
I was pretty sure that he couldn't.
You know.
Did you present that to Ian as like a serious or like,
you could Gary Vee.
No, that's kind of like when like this,
like a sponsor comes to you and you're like,
I don't want to do this sponsor,
give the,
and you quote them really high.
That's what that was for me.
But what if he had called your bluff?
I would,
look, I would go, yeah,
100%.
Yeah, I would do it because that's funny.
You were still down for it.
Yeah, it's super down for it.
Yeah.
It's just you officially calling out Gary Vee.
Dude, I'd done it before.
Oh, yeah.
And has you responded to you or no?
It's Kirby.
You don't think you would respond?
If we get him on the podcast,
which I think will eventually happen,
we will be able to do it.
Okay, yeah.
Let me know them down.
Because it's for charity.
So like, you know, doesn't have to be filmed?
I don't care.
You would just to do it in silence.
Bring cameras if you want.
I'd do it in the target parking line, though.
Is there anyone else you would fight though?
No.
No, I don't think so.
I think my fighting career is done.
What about for a rematch?
Just hypothetically speaking back in the ring?
Hypothetically.
I wouldn't do it.
I wouldn't do it.
But hypothetically, if it.
I would not do it either.
My fucking, yeah, dude, like.
Yeah, I get dizzy from getting hit in the head too much, especially in sparring.
Yeah.
So what was your sentiment from the beginning, from like once you first heard that you're going to fight,
Graham, through the fight and then after the fight?
Like, how do you feel about it now versus a week after the fight?
Because we talk to you building up to the fight, but then what about like after then?
I was just extremely happy for it to be over because it was like, I was so fucking nervous about it.
Me too.
Yeah, I was just like sitting in the garage and just like listening to music and staring at the floor.
And like, I had like a mirror in the garage and I would just like,
every time I get nervous just like start shadow boxing and like because that's like I don't know
practice for it so yeah yeah it was it was yeah it was yeah it was nerve-wracking so I'm just glad
for it to be over and then after the fight how do you feel about it now like reflecting on it I'm glad for
to be over still still I still feel that relief feeling I thought I still like I don't have
to box any I know like wake up and you're like my day's better because I don't I don't want
I don't have this pressure and I'm still feeling it I'm still running that high yeah
sometimes they remember like you don't have to do that
Dude, wait until the fucking boxing match,
you're gonna be so happy, you're like, holy shit.
I'm not in the fucking ring,
and I can just cheer and drink a beer and eat a dog.
You know what, but I want to be,
like backstage, just like pep talking to people.
Because I like, I know what that's like, you know?
I want to be that guy.
You got this, dude.
You fucking got me.
I want to help Leon Hart.
Like, I really want him to win.
I forget who he's fighting.
But like, I want to be like, if I could be like in his ear,
be like, yo man, just don't put your hands down.
Like, you got this.
He fucking got this.
Dude, here's some songs.
Dude, yeah.
Just be a hit.
Chan, you know, you could do that.
You fucking got it, dude. Yeah.
Dude, it's fucking so happy. It's over.
I was just listening to music.
Fucking trying to not think.
It was, dude, yeah.
But you've kept up with your boxing, right?
Not really.
Not at all?
No, there was like a big, I was trying to because like my, um, my coach from last time
is training a lot of the people in the next one.
So I'm a good sparring partner for a lot of them.
So I did some sparrings for them.
Like I sparked toast.
He did the, yeah.
Yeah.
And that was good.
But then I like took a lot.
I'm trying to get back into like just like getting my cardio and shit back up to like be a better
sparring partner for them.
But not a lot recently.
Yeah.
And what was the most nerve-wracking part of it all?
Because it seems like a pretty like high anxiety thing.
Was it the fact that it was in front of a bunch of people or like a live audience?
I don't think the audience was the issue.
Cameras was scary.
I mean, they're being cameras.
But I mean, honestly, like you know, once you were in the ring, it was like it kind
of just all was black.
For me, it was the audience though.
Oh, yeah.
Because like sparring, it's just like, I just focused on the other person.
Yeah, right.
But I guess with this, it's like there's distractions.
It's like screaming and shit.
And I'm in my head.
I'm like, everything I do is being watched and seen.
So it's like, if I do anything wrong, then it's like everyone sees.
It's more like pressure.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't know, just the whole thing.
Also, for the, I also had the added thing of like the video that I was making for it.
I was like, oh, shit.
On top of the fight, it's like also the video will now be.
heavily impacted by the, like, whatever happens in the fight.
Like, I don't know.
Yeah.
My conclusion is like entirely dependent on the fight and like, like, if I, you know,
look like shit or not.
So that was, that was scary.
Yeah.
You did great, though.
You had moves that I didn't even know existed when you would like go, like,
your back would just arch.
Just like go under like a scorpion sort of deal.
My coach is a crazy fucking guy.
He is like such an excellent.
He's also like, he's like, you know, he's like close to like our age.
So he's like, yeah, yeah, it's like, I fucking forget.
He's got to be like 29 or something or like 30.
Really?
Yeah, and so he's like, you know, he's just like your boy, dude.
I just assumed he was like a really like good looking 45 year old.
You think, yeah, I know.
Because he seems like he has a lot of experience.
He does.
He was golden gloves for California.
So like he won in his division.
He did like, he went to like nationals and shit.
He's like an extremely like well accredited boxer and he like really knows how to fight and teach how to fight.
Good motivation, yeah.
How do you have you training?
Like, what was that about?
Well, he'd like, dude, it was super lucky.
He would, like, thank God it was all covered by Ian,
but he'd, like, come to my house,
and we would just, like, train near my garage,
in my garage.
I put up, like, a punching bag,
and he'd, like, bring mitts
and, like, have me do fucking mitts and sticks
and, like, run the ladders and shit.
And then after that, I'd, like, go do cardio at the gym
and, like, just run on the treadmill for a while.
I fucked my legs pretty bad running.
What'd you get?
On concrete, huh?
Did you get like shin splints and also knees got really bad.
My hip also got pretty bad.
So I switched a treadmill and that kind of help.
But, oh, he'd have us run up Griffith every like other week, which was pretty sweet.
He took us on the same route.
He trained at the same gym, Mani Paco trained at.
Oh, wow.
So he took us on like the same or like half of the same route, not the whole.
And so what was the route, though?
What would you be doing?
It was from like bottom to top.
You know, you can just like jog all the way up.
In the middle is the observatory.
You do fucking crunches, get our crunches and pushups out of the way in the middle.
This was not super off.
It's like every other week, sometimes every two weeks.
And then like go all the way to the top of the mountain after that.
And you look like a huge asshole doing that at the observatory.
You look like just the biggest asshole ever doing shadowboxing on grass.
It's embarrassing.
It's so embarrassing.
But dude, he's so fucking like, you got it, dude, you fucking got.
And he'll like do it with you.
So it's like less embarrassing.
Yeah, because I see guys at the gym every now and then through the shadow boxing.
and it's always the kind of weird ones that do that.
Yeah.
And it's like, I don't want to be the weird.
They all look really aggressive.
I do, you know.
I know, dude.
Yeah.
I'm like, what were you pretending to fight?
I know.
I imagine they, they imagine they're like hitting somebody.
Dude, they definitely have someone in mind.
They do a particular person in mind.
Yeah.
Those people are weird.
So that was embarrassing to do.
Yeah.
How is it now that you don't have to do the training?
Great.
I actually still do the training.
Oh, really?
do once a week.
Once a week,
sometimes every other week,
depending on what the schedule is like.
Yeah.
It's good afterwards.
I hate going into it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I don't feel like it.
But then after I finish,
I'm like,
I'm glad I went.
Right.
It's always a good thing afterwards.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But the training was tough.
Yeah.
God.
Hey, we don't have to do it anymore.
I know, I know.
I know.
You know, it was funny.
I was talking to Dr. Mike about this, and he said that he recommended a,
like a sports,
I forget, like a,
not a therapist,
but like a psychologist, what was, forget the term for it,
but there's like a, like a sports, like a, like a pep talker.
Oh, yeah, a hype man.
Yeah, but, but there's like a, there's a scientific way about it where they,
where they do it in such a way where maybe it's more, I don't know.
Yeah, like a sports psychologist.
Yeah, maybe, maybe that's it.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, there's a real.
That, like, because I was saying, like, the biggest fear for me was just like the fear itself
and, like, getting up in front of all these people.
And, like, there's ways that you could combat that.
And you should have done this.
I was like, I didn't even know that existed.
Right, yeah, yeah.
It's like a lot of shit you find out after.
Yeah, so I think he started doing that after a second bite.
I think he wants to take it more seriously.
He is, right?
Yeah.
He's like getting heavy, heavy into it.
That's exciting and scary.
Isn't he fighting a boxer?
Well, he fought like a real boxer last time.
I think that was like an MMA guy, right?
Yeah, something like that.
Nick Diaz?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, he was in his camp.
He did well.
He didn't win, but he did well.
I mean, it's a really scary guy, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
that is freaky.
Like an MMA animal.
He's got to move like crazy.
But like he's a doctor.
It's like, I don't know.
I feel like his mind is so like,
you shouldn't mess with that.
Yeah, I didn't.
I don't know how many more punches I can take.
I don't probably like lose it.
Dude, yeah, doing it consistently is crazy.
Like going to a consistent sparring.
You're getting hit consistently.
Yeah.
CTs.
Yeah, you sparred way more than I did.
I think I only got like two sessions and something like that.
But you were like, out of it, out of it.
Yeah, my coach was very adamant about like sparring.
And I think it was good.
Good, dude.
Yeah.
Dude, I was, dude, fucking holding back tears my first fight or my first sparring.
Yeah.
I was like, oh, did you hit me?
I mean, it's like.
Who is the first?
Like coach.
Oh, it was like, it was like, it was like, it was all good.
But it was like, just like a human reaction of like someone hitting you in the face.
It's like weird, right?
Yeah.
And it's like, yeah.
Getting over that hump was was a good experience.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's interesting when the coaches do that because they hit you in such a way, they, like, do this and you go down like that and then they get you at the top.
Yeah.
You know, they know, they know.
like what you're gonna do what you're gonna do like it's like chess it's interesting it really is yeah like
they'll do it they'll do a jab to the gut and you go oh like that but then you put this hand down and they
go like that now what if they train you they're like okay you know you you look like you're gonna
get punched in the gut you you got to the side and they train you that way and then they know if
they go for a gun shot you just leave you yeah i mean ideally you want to do that but then you could
throw like you know i'm gonna hit hit the head so you have but i'm just gonna surprise them yeah i'm
just going to fake it and then you do that and then they go down low yeah it's how they find like your
weaknesses and stuff and they'll tell you and then i still fucking do it you know yeah it's so hard to get
rid of some of those yeah it's incredible like i think that thinking and work that goes into that
i think that's where things went wrong for you graham is the the lack of sparring like a simulated
real fight i feel like especially with such a little time to practice is the best way to get
decent in uh the amount i hated it i hated it sparring i didn't want to i really but don't you
like the headgear and everything.
Dude,
it doesn't stop.
I think headgear is only
so you don't get
cuts on your face.
Like you've,
I mean,
it's still like,
just like,
90% of the impact is hit in your head.
Yeah.
And like,
you can still get the headaches and stuff.
Like,
it's just so your like nose doesn't get from it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The coach is telling me that
concussions I think are more common
with the head gear, yeah.
Because it's a big target.
It's like a big target.
It's like a big target.
Yeah.
But yeah,
I think it's cuts.
It helps protect your nose a little bit.
Yeah.
But, like, you could still, like, you get punched right in the middle.
It's like, it doesn't offer that much protection.
Yeah.
Sparring is intense, dude.
I spot some, spired some people at, like, the gym that my coach trains out of now.
It's called CM Stables.
Yeah.
And those people are crazy.
They all, like, you know, like, went easy and, like, worked with me.
But, like, still, they hit you with, like, such a hard.
Shots, fuck.
This one girl named Norma, dude.
It was really useful because it was, I actually got a great variety of people.
So it was, like, some people who, like, were really.
really defensive.
And then some people who were like really agile moved around a lot.
So it was like good to see the different styles and like try to adapt to different shit.
She would just like do this and like cover everything.
Yeah, she would turtle.
And then once you got close, she would fucking like just like the strongest hooks ever.
That was the dizziest ever.
I think I got a small concussion from that.
Really?
Yeah.
It sparked her.
I sparred this kid named Jaden who is like he's 14 years old, but he is the best 14 year old in the country.
So because he beat the shit out of me, I think that's.
okay because he's the best he's 14
did you get any good hits in no no no
he was like fighting ang from avatar
the last airbenner he was like he would just like
jab you three times and then like
and then like jump and he would
he was like I was in the center and he was just like fucking
hubble space telescope orbiting the shit out of me
he was just like always moving were you bigger than him
yeah well yeah I'm like
I mean you know I'm an adult
he's 14 years old he could definitely beat the shit out of me
hey there's a big there's a big
14 year there are yeah like
there could be some there's six foot
tall, 14 with a beard and like, you know.
Yeah, but he was just like incredibly
fast and like just a disgusting amount of stuff.
Like he is the best 14 year old boxer in the
entire United States. Were you scared before you fought him?
A little bit. I mean
I think he was also going easy and not hitting me super hard, which is nice.
Was part of you like,
nah, he's far into. No, at no point.
They look so scary, dude. They all look
so scary. They got like on their eyes. They're smoking a cigarette
out of eyes. Everyone, everyone who boxes
though is like they got muscle. They look like chiseled. Yeah, they all with
At no point was I was like,
fuck, it's a kid.
No, no, it's like, yeah, no.
Okay.
No.
Yeah.
Do you talk to him beforehand?
Yeah, yeah.
Actually, I think that's, that was part of my strategy.
Yeah.
Was to establish a relationship so they'd go easier on me.
Yeah.
I would like talk during the sparring.
I'd be like, oh, good one.
Oh, good one.
Yeah, I did the same thing.
Yeah.
Humanize yourself.
Yeah, yeah.
Make yourself a more vulnerable target.
Well done.
Yeah.
Oh, that one kind of hurt.
It's not the same thing.
Yeah, yeah.
It's a defense,
I can just have.
Yeah, yeah, I talked to him before and after.
Yeah, they didn't do the shit in me.
Now, do anyone, like, do any of them watch your channel?
Do they know who you are?
Yeah, really?
Yeah, a few of them saw the fight.
Okay.
Which was good.
Yeah.
They should be nice.
But did they know you from, like, YouTube at all?
I don't think so.
I don't think so.
Not from the far.
And then our coach is, like, always, like, talking about, like, the YouTube stuff now.
And he's always, like, doing shit about it.
Yeah.
So they,
They know now.
Cool.
Yeah, I think they still think it's maybe like a little stupid, but they're all extremely nice.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So what do you think about Ian fighting Alex Wasabi right now?
Oh, dude, that's going to be crazy.
Who do you think?
I think, my money's on Ian.
Because he's got that experience right now.
He's been fighting for like years.
Oh, really?
You know, Alex, he has a fucking boxing ring in his backyard.
For how long?
I thought this is like a recent thing.
No, no, no.
He's been doing this.
They both, they both got.
lot of experience.
I'm saying Ian still.
I want to say Ian because I just wanted to see that happen.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Ian won in my heart also for the last creative clash.
That was awesome.
Yeah.
Just seeing him go through it.
It was intense.
Oh gosh.
Yeah.
It was a good fight.
Yeah.
I felt bad on stage.
I just wanted, I wanted to call it.
You know, like, guys, if we did enough.
Good show, guys.
You got a show, though.
He really showed, like, his endurance.
That was great.
Yeah, but like seeing him right at
with the black eye and like the puffy
face, it felt bad.
Yeah.
I would also feel bad for him though
if you called it early.
And like he,
because he's still obviously
had shit in the tank, you know?
Right.
And it's like, you don't want to call it
while he's like still able to fight.
I would have stopped earlier.
Yeah.
Give him both it, you know,
just say you both won.
Just why everyone wins.
As long as you should do,
that would be hilarious
just everyone wins.
As long as you get up there,
you want something.
Dude.
Dude, holy shit.
It's gonna be sweet.
I'm excited for,
do you know who Sabrina is?
She's like,
I think she's in like
the really lightweight
female fighting
section of the fight.
And she's like,
I don't actually know
she's fighting,
but she was at the same gym
that I was at,
like my coach trains out of.
Sometimes she just comes for fun.
And like she just punches so fucking much.
She's like a volume puncher.
And so that's gonna be awesome to see.
That's like super overwhelming
for most people,
me included,
like whenever like someone just throwing
combos. It's like I just shut my brain off.
Yeah. Yeah, so I'm excited for that
one. I'm just excited to go. I think
it's all leveling up now because everyone saw the
first one and they're like, okay, oh, it's for real
yeah, yeah, like the bar is now set
at that level and you have to surpass
that by like probably twofold. Yeah, yeah.
Thank God we did the first one and not the second one.
The same one's like two times as big
for the crowd. Yeah, I don't think I do this.
Is it a different stadium? Like a bigger arena?
It's like a 2x stadium. Oh,
2x on what we were at. I think it went from 10,000
to 20,000. It's 20,000.
Whatever the multiplier
That is eight times two.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It'll be high.
It'll be sick.
Jeez.
Does Lily not want to fight?
No, I don't know if she wants to get hit in the head.
No.
Yeah, no, she doesn't.
She likes learning, like, little boxing stuff.
Like, punching and stuff.
Yeah.
She's pretty good at jabbing.
I think it's interesting that dad is going to fight again.
That is, honestly, I am the most excited for that.
Me too.
Yeah.
Isn't he fighting someone that's, kind of like.
It's fighting AB.
Yeah.
Who is in the last one.
Yeah, AB's kind of big.
was big and pretty good.
Yeah, but dad is crazy.
Yeah.
If I were AB, I would be so scary.
I would be terrified.
Yeah.
I think he could like probably snake dad a couple, you know?
Because dad was like putting his hands.
I mean, like to unload it to unload.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like his hands were like down.
Like maybe A.B. is like seeing it and being like I couldn't.
Yeah, but so is dad.
Dad's saying that too.
And like, you know, I would be so scared.
I'm not going to do that.
My favorite though is the Joe Rogan clip.
Do you see?
Joe Rogan is like the father.
is literally beating the shit out of the sun.
The best tweet of my life.
And he's enjoying it.
The sun gets, you know, knocked out.
And the dad's just like, you're cheering.
It's just not like she'd do as a father.
It's so funny.
That was an incredible clip.
What do you guys think?
Do you think he's going to go out like the same that he did the first grader class?
Just run out and start punching.
And hopefully, like, maybe he's preparing for that.
I feel like everyone's expecting that.
So he'd be smart to like do something a little different.
Maybe yeah.
Like go slow and then sprint up, you know?
Like, I guess we'll see.
That's why I'm excited to go.
I can't fucking.
What did you think of when you were in the fucking back room and you saw the fucking,
did you have a TV? You had a TV.
We had the TV.
It was a tiny little thing too.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
And you saw the Matt Watson fight?
What did you?
Like, what was going through your head?
I was terrified.
Dude, me too.
That was the moment where I was like, I was like, I was kind of hoping people were taking
it easy.
Like, you know, like, you know, the sparring were like, good hit.
Like, that's what I thought it was going to be like.
Yeah.
Just gentle.
Just gentle like little jabs here and there.
Nothing, nothing crazy.
That really set the tone, dude.
I thought how much.
mismatched is it? Like, if this
was the first one, are they all going to be like...
That's exactly what I thought. I was like, is everything going to be like that?
But then he kept getting hit. My biggest
thing was just watching people like go up there
and they come back. And you see the
before and afters of people like, they're going
up and they're scared and they're terrified and they come back
and they're just like limping in
and they got like an ice pack on the side of their
face. They're like, you got to go to the hospital.
Yeah. But everyone is doing that.
And then I'm thinking, like, I can't
escape that. Like, there's no way that like,
I'm going to be the exception of just, like, not being hurt at all.
That buildup was fucked to be, like, later on in the fights.
Dude.
Seeing the Ryan McGee, Alex Ernst fight?
Yeah.
Yeah, they came back and they were like, holy you.
They were fucked up.
Yeah, I think he went to the hospital.
Yeah, yeah, he did.
I think he broke his nose.
Yeah, concussion.
Broke his nose and concussion.
Yeah.
I remember seeing his nose, and it was, like, huge.
Yeah.
It's absolutely massive.
And they had the stuff, they stuffed his nose in the middle.
That was, and, um, and his eyes.
was like just completely red.
Like there was no white in the eye.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.
That was an awesome fight.
It was a crazy fight, but I would have loved to have gone first.
Yeah, I think so too.
Yeah.
And plus, like, people were still kind of like filling in the seats.
Yeah, yeah.
Get it first. Get it out of the way.
You know, not everyone gets to see it.
That really set a stage in that.
Yeah.
Jack and I were going to do the, what is it, the Liver King thing?
Oh, the Barbarian?
The Barbarian?
Yeah, he invited us to do a barbarian.
And it involved.
holding, what is it, 80 pound barb-
It's like, 80 pounds.
Is it 80?
Yeah, I think it was 80 pounds.
Okay, 80-pound kettlebells.
Kettlebells in each hand
with 100 pounds in the backpack,
plus ankle weights, and you're like dragging.
Dragging like a 200-pound sled.
You gotta walk a mile.
You'll walk a mile to you know.
Yeah, it's crazy.
So I was thinking, well,
there's no way Jack and I should have the same weights, right?
Yeah, yeah.
If someone's like six foot tall, six foot five,
let's just say, they weigh 250 pounds.
I shouldn't carry the same weight as that person.
It doesn't make sense.
It should be to body weight.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
To be a proportion of body weight.
That's the only way to keep it, you know, keep it fair.
Because otherwise, I'm doing the work of two.
Yeah, I don't know.
Grant, because you've also been working out for, what, 10 years now?
Yeah, but 10 years?
Not like a thorough workout.
I'm talking, it's just like a superficial.
People say you have been.
They're not functional, though.
They're purely aesthetic.
Okay.
Ask me to pick up anything.
I can't do it.
Macy was trying to get me to open a,
jar the other day.
No, and you couldn't do it?
No, it was just on there.
It took me like five minutes.
What did you think, man?
She like called for you to help her out to be your hero.
First of all, she couldn't do it.
And then she goes to me, I couldn't do it.
So I run it under water for a little bit.
It was like a pasta sauce jar.
And it just was just stuck.
Fucking on there, yeah.
Yeah.
I'd blow torch that.
Yeah, yeah, you got to do something.
I got it off, though.
It did.
It did, but it's also the, like, if it's a wide jar, it's hard for me to, like,
get a good grasp on it.
Right.
But if it's a smaller jar.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's hard to find a thing that's your size.
Yeah.
Dude, tough.
Five foot three life.
It's fucking sweet.
Dude, it's actually so hard to find a motorcycle that I could fit on properly.
Honda Rock is.
Yeah.
See, that's what I'm saying.
Yeah.
Nah, I just did the one foot thing.
Right.
Yeah.
I would think the same thing with motorcycles.
Like just being able to put your foot down and you're at a red light without the whole thing
toppling over.
Yeah, you got to do like a, like the one footer instead of like a normal, like a lot of people just do the two footers.
Yeah.
You just like, you just must gain the skill.
That must be nice.
Two fifties are pretty big.
Yeah, yeah.
Those are like no joke bikes.
Like a 689 and that, that one is much larger.
So what are your plans for the future?
How do you envision the perfect Michael leaves, Reeves life?
Michael leaves.
Michael leaves life in five years.
Maybe I'll be in Japan for a year.
That'd be fun.
Yeah, maybe hopefully sooner.
Yeah.
I want to,
a thing about going on more road trips would be fun.
Up the West Coast,
of the PCH would be super fun.
That is cool.
It would be super sweet.
I'd love to see vlogs.
If you just did a vlog.
I'm on,
yeah.
You have the once a week.
I'm doing once a week.
I'm doing,
yeah,
doing one.
A cool thing happened.
I wasn't going to,
I was just going to get the footage
and like,
I was on Patreon,
but a cool thing did happen in this vlog
where I was like,
okay, I could maybe put this on YouTube.
Can we get a little bit of a,
I can tell you after.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It happens like right in the middle line.
Just like don't talk about it.
It was fun.
It was like a couple times like the car, the truck broke down and I had to fix it on like
the side of their own.
That's like fun trials and tribulations.
Okay.
Yeah.
Radiator blue and I had to like do some hose bullshit.
Was this the city car?
This is the city car.
It is not meant to go that fast.
That fast?
Well it's like on high.
80,000 miles.
I feel like it could probably go pretty fast, right?
I mean, I don't know.
Whoever owned it before did not.
treat it will. So like on the highway for consistent amount of time and heats up so fucking fast.
Oh dang. Yeah. The radiator's absolutely fucked up. So how many vehicles you have now? You still have
the Tesla? I think so. Oh yeah. Yeah. We have a very, we have a large parking lot in the backyard. Yeah.
Oh nice. Yeah. I mean the truck is like like a work truck. You know, I don't drive it anywhere. Yeah.
Yeah. And I don't really drive my car anymore. It's just the motorcycles?
I just do the bikes around town. Yeah. Yeah. It's much nicer around L.A.
That's what Ludwig does.
I mean, he rides a Vespa everywhere.
He's on the Vespa.
Yeah.
I helped him get his motorcycle license.
You did?
Yeah, he took the test on my bike.
Wow.
No, wait.
Wait, so I didn't know he got the Vespa recently.
Oh, no, I think his Vespa's legal to ride without it or he was just writing it.
Oh, it could be less than 50.
Maybe, yeah.
Yeah.
When I saw that, I was so jealous, man.
The Vesma?
Yeah, I told you, Grandma.
I was like, dude, he looks so cool on that Vespa.
That looks like it's so fun.
Dude, Vespa's are sweet.
It's like a scooter, scooting around.
Yeah.
Yeah, not in city traffic, but going up like a road to like Griffith is quite nice at like the sun, sunset.
They sell 49ccs.
Like they purposely make a model that is 49cc to bypass the California legislation.
Wait a way so you can drive around.
Yeah, I think you just need a driver's license.
Yeah, all you need is a driver's license.
Yeah, so you get you just do it like tomorrow.
I mean, technically you can buy any motorcycle without a driver's license.
They just sell it to you.
And they're like, don't drive it on the road.
Yeah.
There you go, fella.
I don't know how you're getting at home.
Yeah.
I'm going to go this way now
and don't see you later.
Yeah, but yeah, you can do it.
And it's fun on like a backer,
like sunset is super nice.
Dude, the line to get to Griffith is like
so long, but you just like drive past all of them.
I really, I feel like one car is going to go
like the other way.
Would you hop on a motorcycle?
On a scooter.
On a Vespa or something like that.
Vespa.
It depends where I would.
I would.
But just not in LA.
Dirt road.
Wouldn't do.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
That's fine.
That's easy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's fine.
Yeah.
That'd be fun.
You get a honger ruckus.
No.
Those can go on dirt a little bit too.
Those are fun.
Yeah.
Scooters, you don't have to like work a clutch or anything too.
You just fucking hop on it.
I could do that.
Twist the thing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
My neighbor's in L.A.
I don't know if you remember this.
there was a whole bunch of kids who lived across the street
and they got one of those little tiny motorcycles
like the really tiny ones.
Their legs would be like up in the air like this.
It would be like a pocket rocket rocket.
Yeah.
And they would ride that thing up and down the street,
but it was so loud.
And they would go late at night.
And so sometimes I'm filming.
Like I'm talking 10 p.m. a night.
Just like just up and down for hours.
Those fuckers.
Hours.
And the thing is they must have been like 12 or 13.
I don't think their parents really like.
Yeah, yeah.
Had any involvement in them.
But they were just like,
Just up and down the street.
Yeah, that's fun, dude.
Yeah.
That's fucked.
Yeah, dude, I was so jealous of kids in my neighborhood who had, like,
little pocket rockets just, like, flying around.
Like, 25 CCs.
Yep.
It's, like, barely a fucking lawnmower engine.
It sounds like a lawnmower, though.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It probably is, like, the same engine.
I think so.
Some weed whackers.
Yeah.
Like, a two-stroke fucking thing.
Gosh.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, so I want to do more of that.
Like, just, like...
I get that.
Just some, like, long road trip, traveling is fun.
I really like my road trip to Boston when I did, like, the dog piss video.
liked that. That was super
nice because like, like, a lot
of the time I'm like, damn, I should be working or doing
something, but it's like, I literally could
not be, because I'm like, my only mission is to just drive
to a place. Like, I couldn't
work if I wanted to. Yeah. You know?
Did you take your time on the trip, or was it like... I took some time,
yeah. Okay. That's good. I like stopped in like a couple
spots. Utah was like super beautiful.
I think we talked about that a little last time, actually.
Yeah. So something like that again. Yeah, like, really
nice. Yeah, your dedication to the video
is mind blowing to me. Like, going
to Vegas for just that one
like we're talking like 10 seconds, 20 seconds of a clip,
but it's like a whole day trip for 10 seconds.
Yeah, it made it make sense though.
That one, yeah, that was fun.
That was good.
Dude, the Boston trip was sweet.
I think I kind of wanted to do the road trip anyway,
and it was like you get a video segment out of it.
Yeah, yeah.
So that was excellent.
Yeah.
It'd be fun if you did something with AI,
like just incorporated like a chat GPT of some sort for like a, you know.
Yeah, I'll do something like that.
That's just going crazy.
Crazy. Have you seen those
um,
uh,
AI generated,
um,
president playing like
Fortnite voices?
Yes.
Those are the funniest.
Those are probably the greatest memes I've seen in recent history.
I haven't seen them.
There's,
it'll be like,
fucking Obama.
You need to hop on Roblox right now.
I'll show you.
And like,
dude,
fucking,
like Joe Biden,
Trump,
fucking Obama,
Hillary Clinton and like a Minecraft server.
That's funny.
And the voices sound like,
they sound real enough.
I heard it.
I heard,
I heard,
I heard,
Joe Biden one. Yeah. It sounds pretty good.
Dude, they're getting so good. There's like one, fuck, I saw this video of like a dude showing one to
his mom and it's like Joe Biden talking about like the stickiest, iciest weed he's ever
smoked. He's like, this shit, this shit will stop your pacemaker. This has been watered
with the blood of 36 dragons. And his mom is like, well, you know what people are going to
believe it. That's the thing. You know, so much. But it's being used for memes and it's so.
It reminds you that Joe Rogan thing.
It's funny, I think I sent you this, Jack.
It's like as soon as it came up, the Joe Rogan thing where he's selling testosterone pills.
Yeah.
I was scrolling TikTok and all of a sudden there was this guy who was talking about like these testosterone pills.
And Joe Rogan, you see him, yeah, these pills are the best.
I go for like alpha, you know, whatever it is.
And I'm looking because it seems a little off.
Yeah.
I realize it's AI.
It's not even Joe Rogan's AI.
And like you see his mouth movie, but it's not perfect.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And it seems a little off.
But, like, it looks so legit.
It's like alpha grind or something like that.
And I sent it to you.
Like, as soon as it came up.
So was it a fake ad?
Yes.
Yeah.
They, like, totally fake to this guy.
So what they did, they went on the Joe Rogan show and there was another guy.
The other guy was legitimately talking about the benefits of testosterone.
Yeah.
Then they come back to Joe.
And Joe's AI now.
Yes.
You know, I totally agree with that point.
That's why I do.
Alpha fucking.
Yeah.
Particle.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's why I use Alpha grind through number one in the Amazon store.
I'm like, you know what?
Actually, I didn't catch it at first.
But he says Amazon store.
But it sounded too much like an ad.
I'm like, wait a second.
This sounds too salesy.
Like, he wouldn't say this.
Yeah.
And then I looked into it.
And like, that's a real thing.
Dude, that's, it's correct.
The future's going to be awesome.
Yeah.
These shoes are going to be sweet.
I hope I die by the time that I'll.
But you know what?
But like at some point, there's got to be like a verification tag.
Like if a computer is able to see that you're online,
Like there's some sort of blue check mark or something that you've approved that or that that's actually you.
Yeah, or just that it's not like a deep faked video.
I think they're working on stuff where it's like, you can tell if it's like a deep fake thing.
How would they be able to tell?
I don't even fucking know.
I don't know.
I'm really bad at AI stuff.
Yeah.
I'm not sure.
All I know is I love the memes.
Joe Rogan talking to Jordan Peterson about his Minecraft build.
Yeah.
So fucking funny.
I swear to God, I saw that exact same way.
Yeah.
Those are, they're incredible.
Really?
I will show you.
I will show you.
I would love that.
I binge like 20 of them.
It was literally two nights ago.
They're so, like, low effort to make, usually, too.
There's just, like, there are a lot of them now.
And they're so funny.
They're just so fucking funny.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We could have an intro like that for the iced coffee hour.
That would be interesting.
And then we say, oh, this intro was just all AI.
That would be cool.
No, or say that we paid for it on Cameo.
That would be cool, too.
Yeah, that would be sweet.
It's just to play it off as like, hey, this is real.
Yeah.
You own the Michael Ree Two channel, right?
Is that you?
No, no, that's some...
No, I don't.
That is just some random...
Wait, oh, I did...
Oh, it was you were telling me
on the other podcast.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
What podcast?
The OTV one.
Oh, you don't own Michael Reed, too?
No.
That's just a random person.
No, I talk to him now and again,
and I'm like...
No, it's not.
Not me.
Yeah, yeah.
How was that channel doing?
I feel like it's good.
I'm trying to get him to pay me.
It's probably making more money than mine.
Dude, here's the thing.
You could come up with some sort of, like,
contract.
Be like, yo, I'll take 50% of Michael Reto and I'll send you on random occasion little tidbits of like...
Yeah, I've talked to them before.
Original footage.
I just would rather have it not happen, but it's always going to happen like a second...
Really?
Like someone clipping you.
You don't think that's...
You would rather not happen?
I would rather a second channel that is like pretending to be me did not exist.
But I feel like it will probably always happen.
I think it's good for you because you're posting so infrequently that these random clips that like pop off on YouTube and stuff like that.
Yeah.
It's...
random though on top though between each post yeah it's pretty random though it's fun to it's fun to get
them on the starvation diet though they're like do they have to go back like three oh yeah so is the
reason you're not posting because of the second chance to starve him out of god i talk to him on
discord sometimes i'm trying to work something out with him yeah you still haven't worked something out
with him i'm a lazy person i thought reetons you i know it's funny because it looks a lot it's so well done
too. Like the videos are well-clips. Good titles, good thumbnails. It was funny. I thought for the longest
time you had a second channel and there was something on Creator Clash and I commented as though
as though it were you. And then I think they pinned the comment at the top and responded back like,
thank you so much. And I was like, that's cool. Michael responded. He's on YouTube right now. That's
kind of neat. And I thought like, okay, it makes sense that you're not posting as much on your main
channel because you got this thing. Yeah. Yeah. No. No, definitely not. I wonder the sort of like
deals she's getting because like a magic you be getting sponsors no no but I'm just saying it's guaranteed
there are companies reaching out as my probably getting offered yeah guaranteed probably yeah
guaranteed he'll start using like AI to start making guys I look at athletic greens
this is how I won the boxing match alpha grind I only ate alpha grind woke up alpha grind
went to bed alpha grind it's number one on the Amazon
And you could order now before they run out.
Unreal.
Yeah, I guarantee they could be taking crazy sponsorship deals.
Yeah, yeah.
I would hire the guy, honestly.
You honestly, go.
I would hire that person.
He's already doing all the work, you know?
Yeah, yeah.
How many subscribers does he have?
A few hundred thousand.
I thought more.
The videos pop off.
Yeah, no, I thought it was like a million subscribers.
Probably.
I want to say like 400,000.
513,000 subscribers.
That's about right.
But dude, the views he's pulling.
I can't look at it.
Does it make you sick?
I want to kill it.
But they're all over eight minutes.
He purposely makes eight minutes and three seconds
to put mid-roll ads in the video.
Every video is barely over-dain-how much they're making in ad revenue?
Yes.
What is it?
I can't.
You can't think about it.
Michael, can you not just like reach out?
I do actually.
I know, but just like work something out.
Or he gives the channel to you.
I think he said that it's been getting demonetized like intensely recently, which is why.
That's what he wants you to believe.
I know, right?
Yeah, but.
Like, oh, yeah, it's not that good though.
Yeah, he didn't get access to it.
Yeah.
That is absurd.
So that channel, sorry, man.
118 million views.
That's crazy.
There's one month.
He had, uh, 8.3 million.
views in a month.
Wow.
This is doing fantastic.
And average is 75,000 views a day.
You're doing great, Michael.
Yeah.
You don't got to worry about it, man.
Don't feel this pressure that you need to be posting all the time.
Because he's doing it.
But you do you, man.
He's doing it.
This was actually a great video.
I actually, I watched this one.
Michael Reeves being a comedy genius for 18 minutes.
It's a fantastic video, though.
It's like really well, like the amount of research and time to make that.
To collect it all together.
to find it. That is a lot of time, yeah.
Like, that's probably, like, a few days worth of work.
If someone were to go through all of your videos and, like, you know, organize them.
Yeah.
Dude, I wonder how many times he's combed through the library.
Because, like, there's not that much to work.
He just, like, he goes every video word for word.
He just, like, mouse it as he's editing.
I thought it was a bad clip.
He's like, okay, I got to use this.
He's getting time to upload again.
And what about getting someone else, just like, you know,
you give someone else power of attorney.
they do all the work on your behalf to like
just get in contact like work with the guy
yeah maybe like you don't want to shut him down
but like work with him he's obviously talented at what he's doing
or hire him Jack for like for clips
we could use him for like our clips channel and stuff like that
you know dude yeah he's talented
I think it's worth his time man I think he's doing just
yeah he's like Michael Reese's so much money yeah
well you'll know to reach out when he gets sponsored by Alpha Grimes
He's gonna contact me and be like,
can you do the ad read now?
Yes, yes, I can.
My AI is no longer working.
I just need to see these few words.
Dude, wait, would you do that if you reached out
and was like, yo, I found a sponsor?
If you did read, I'll give you 50% of the revenue.
Would you do it?
Only if it was like something super funny.
Like Adam and Eve or something.
Like, fleshlight.
Like, fleshlight.
Dude, I remember.
Flashlight did a, yeah, it's a
company. I wanted to do a video with them where they were like offering sponsorships, but they never contacted me.
I said I needed like 300 fleshlights for a video and they didn't ever contact me again.
What?
What was the video?
I think I was going to make like a raft out of fleshlights or something, like a boat.
I think it wasn't like the thing. It was more just saying to see how many flashlights I could get from fleshlights.
And just like the dumbest fucking thing ever with it.
Like just testing, do they float?
Yeah.
Does it freeze?
Yeah.
Just like do random stuff.
I really want it.
Because that's the only way it's like funny.
Huh?
300.
Yeah, like 300 flashlights.
I think 100 flashlights.
No?
Dude.
Well, it's funny.
Some,
I don't know.
I don't know how much would be needed to make a raft.
It'd be funny to go to Marina del Rey and like make it legit like raft.
Dude, yeah.
See if you get it from the beginning of the harbor to the end.
I bet I bet I fucking could.
But what if they just don't float from the start?
I bet I bet you could take it out of the plastic and like,
blow it with compressed air to make a balloon.
Okay.
And like you, like pontoons, like a hovercraft around my boat.
And the main structure is like plastic.
Why'd you get up on that, man?
See, they didn't send me 300 flashlights.
I was ready.
I was so ready to make this fucking.
How much would that cost?
There's still a game for it.
Would you do it?
Yeah, I want 300 flashlights.
How much would that cost?
300 flashlights?
Yeah, how much would that cost?
I don't know.
I've never bought a flashlight.
But how much would that cost?
I mean, like...
Would it cost them?
What about $1799 per flashlight?
I love how you got that.
But it brought a lot.
gonna add.
Jack's like,
plus tax brings up to 18.
Jack's like it's on sale right now.
Use my referral link.
Oh gosh.
This is now,
now it's in my search.
And now I'm gonna get ads for this.
I know.
Where can I buy 300 fleshlight?
Oh,
wow.
Okay.
So the really cheap ones are 1995.
1766.
Like,
right?
Yeah.
That's funny.
That's the Mia Khalifa one.
And that's,
why isn't the names of these two.
Oh,
yeah,
they name them.
Mia.
Wow.
We got stroker
Pussy
Check
It's called
Dude
It's called the
Mia Khalifa
Stroker
Pussy Stroker
What is the
This one is
In white
Stroker
One stroker
wasn't enough
Stroker
Stroker
Stroker
This is the boss
level
for 80 dollars
Boss level
What are you
What is that
The boss level
You know you have to clean those
You have to clean
those yourself.
Oh, man.
Dishwashers safe.
Then we got Mistress Mercedes.
Vibe-mouthed stroker chow.
Damn, I don't want that.
It only has one stroker in the name.
That's not good enough.
I need this.
I need this.
Wait, so are these real molds?
Some of them are real molds of real people.
Are you serious?
Yeah.
I can't look at that anymore.
What?
Okay, so anyway, the answer is $20.
That's the answer.
Yeah, like $20,000.
Probably at cost, too,
for them is like, you know, because they're making a price.
So it's like, I bet it's like five bucks or something.
It's got it.
Yeah.
It's got a team.
Yeah.
So it's like five times like 300.
They're under like two grand for that investment.
I just want 300 flashlights at cost.
So it doesn't matter.
Like if I were to buy you 300 flashlights, you wouldn't do anything with the video.
I think it's funny if it's from them, you know?
Because like it's obviously not about what I make with it.
It's like I just want to see how many I could like squeeze out of them.
Like how many lists send me.
Dude, I want to get like a.
a palette of fleshlights arriving to my door
by forklift.
It would be so awesome.
Yeah, they just never messaged me again.
Which is sad.
That would be great.
But did you get in contact with them?
I did originally, yeah.
Why did you on LinkedIn?
Huh?
That sounds like the best way to get in the contact with it.
Dude,
they were a YouTube DM.
Or sorry, Twitter DM.
Oh, shoot.
And yeah, I was like 300, 300 please for this.
And I think they just never talked again about it.
Yeah.
Why wouldn't you have Michael Reeves to reach out for you?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Let me get that.
He could be doing everything for you, man.
I fucking.
I'm just a puppet.
actually.
The real Michael
Yeah, he's
fucking
this heart and soul
behind this whole operation.
He tells me what to say.
I would honestly
I'd hire him.
Yeah, no.
I would hire him.
I don't think he was
in the United States too.
Dude, he is making
and kill him.
I know.
Hire him to do this.
What other ideas
like this
have you just like scrapped
because the company is...
The fleshlight one?
Yeah.
I don't know.
I can't think of them
off the top of the head.
There's a,
I think there's probably a couple.
But I don't
really remember.
I just asked for something
outrageous.
Like maybe they'll give it to me.
That's funny.
I know, right?
Dude,
I'm sure since you spent...
Like, I want to know what that looks like.
Oh, it probably looks...
It's an atrocity.
You know what?
I bet it's smaller than you would think.
That's what she said.
300, especially if you're ballooning them.
I mean, they...
No, it's like, I would imagine it's a
square foot, right?
It's 300, 300 water bottles.
I can't imagine it being like that much.
Like a case of 24 is like this.
But you're ballooning them.
The thing is he's blowing them up.
No, but I'm saying ship
Like, if they're shipped,
I want to see the palette.
My guess the palette would be like about the size of this
and probably like that.
So it's like, this is for 24.
This is like a water bottle.
Yeah, it's like 24.
It's not too bad.
Like 24 times like a foot and a half by a foot.
That's as far as I'll get.
If you blew them up,
you could make like a fortress.
Dude, I bet you could.
You could do a double decker raft.
I could fill them with fucking helium
and do an up balloon.
Whoa, that would be great.
Fill them with helium.
You can make a foam pit out of them too.
out of the blown up ones that would be so sick god damn dude you can make like a fucking water
oh dude a spy balloon with the fly bag out of them yeah they're gonna shoot that down so fast
flesh light spy balloon yeah so what does a video need to pass like what what does the litmus test
you push video ideas through in order to say okay this is good enough to make a video i don't even know
if i like just fuck around with it and it gets out of hand it's probably gonna become a video
You like, because I'm sure since there's such a large period of time between each video,
I'm sure you come up with plenty of ideas through that time.
But what is, you just don't know?
Like, how do you know that it's an actual main channel video idea?
I don't know.
Usually I'll just fucking get too far on it, fucking around with it,
and it has to become a video now.
And then, or like, if I don't get super far, it's because I've, like,
already shot it down.
I think I'm going to start, I've already started working on, like, the next one,
which is, like, not the greatest idea, but I've very,
I already gotten pretty far.
And I could make it pretty quick, I think.
It's not the blog thing.
You want to tease it?
Oh, we got to get a hint.
There's like nothing.
Like, it's about videos.
It's a video about videos.
Okay.
Yeah.
Deal.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Which isn't a super good idea, but I think it'd just be fun to make.
How'd you get the idea?
Fuck, I don't remember.
Maybe something, yeah, no, I don't really remember.
All right.
I just thought it would be fun as well as working on, like the last one.
I'd be interesting.
And what's your timeline to have that posted by?
I don't know.
Michael Reeves, two needs to know.
They live and call.
He's got mouth to feed, man.
He has mouth to feed.
It's a family, man.
Just think of it.
No, dude.
I have no idea.
I want to do the vlog first, and then maybe go on a road trip, and then make the other
video.
Yeah.
PCH, baby.
That sounds fun.
Yeah, yeah, I think so.
I actually recently just took a road trip up to Oregon, but it was on, like, the five.
Where'd you go in Oregon?
We went to, um, we went to,
Ashland, but we were there for like
20 minutes. We were helping my friend move.
So we're getting his stuff, bringing it back.
It's a really fun road trip, though.
And I think it would be even better looking on
the PCH. It'd be slower, but
the five is just like, really, starts
really beautiful, and then it's just like dog shit
cornfields for like 300 miles.
Oh, I got something interesting to tell you.
Yeah. I posted
a clip on my channel.
It was the Scara's
credit score. Remember he said that
someone stole his credit card or credit score.
And there was like a trade line and someone was like paying it off.
Yeah.
I didn't realize that that's very common with some people who pay for a social security number.
They apply for a credit card, but they don't want to screw anybody over.
So they'll open up a card or take out a loan, but pay it off.
Oh.
And so they said most likely his credit card information, or not his credit card, his identity had been leaked, somebody purchased it,
but without like malicious intent.
He's got like a benevolent credit card identity.
I don't know if that's what benevolent means.
It's close enough.
Close enough.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He's got like a like a guardian angel who's stolen social security number.
But like I got multiple comments.
You're like yeah, it's not that uncommon.
I guess that makes sense.
You don't want to be like a huge asshole.
Right.
Yeah.
And like if you just don't want to, you can't or like you can't go through the process
of getting a social security.
Right.
Exactly.
So it's like you do that but you don't want to like screw someone over.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And you want like more credit from that.
So it's like you're not going to like, you know, bite the hand that feeds.
So like you're going to pay it off.
Dude, that's crazy.
Someone has to like go to that extent to get that, to get like a social security.
No.
And they'll still pay it off.
And they'll pay it off on time.
So be a great citizen.
Yeah.
Financially literate.
Yeah.
Understanding the due dates, not carrying interest, no balances on that card.
Growing someone else's credit.
Yeah.
They're kind of doing it with service.
In a way they are.
Yeah.
I mean, it could have gone really bad.
Yeah.
But it went well.
Yeah.
So it's just a fun resolution.
I didn't think of that.
Yeah.
So.
Cool.
Cool.
I think there is anything else you want to mention?
I don't think so.
No.
No.
What are you up to you tonight?
I'm going to work on my video, actually.
Okay.
I'm like a pretty fun part to edit right now.
Other vlog.
Really?
Yeah.
Nice.
It's fun.
Yeah.
It's like kind of wild event happened to me.
Are you going to post it before Creator Clash or after?
Before for sure.
Cool.
I think I'm trying to get it out by like, I don't know,
middle of next.
month. Really? At least those poor starving Patreon.
Okay. I'm sorry. I really hope you posted on the main channel. If not, then it's a,
maybe. Oh, no, I'll give it to Michael Reed, too. I'll give it to Michael Reed too and he can post it.
Oh. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah. I like that. Yeah, yeah. All right, man. Well, thank you so
much. I really appreciate this. You get your free stock down below the description.
You know, Fred, still alive. A lot of people think he died. Really? Yeah. Look at that. Oh, wow.
people think he died.
I don't know what's with that.
Everyone has that same reaction.
They're like, oh, wow.
Yeah, yeah.
Really?
I keep him alive.
Yeah.
You like him?
Oh, yeah.
You got a good tank for him.
You got good filtration.
Yeah.
Dude, my, my, um, uh, my water source is just really good.
I have like the full RO system.
Oh,
underneath.
Yeah.
Dude, if my landlord looks under my sink,
he's going to think I'm cooking meth under that thing.
Dude, it looks, it's like,
was it a three-stage filter or two-star.
You got four stage?
Four with them deemoneator stage.
Are you serious?
Dude, I wanted that fish.
to live. I mean, I still want the fish
to live, obviously, still live. Yeah. Yeah.
Get scallops or something like that. Yeah,
maybe, yeah. I'm afraid. What is a
scallop? Is that a clam? It's a
male clam. It's a mollusk. It's a
mollusk, jack. Why does it look like a
meatball then? That's on the inside.
When you eat it. But how is there that much
meat inside of a clam? Because that's what they
filter feed with. You have the
two shells, and you pull open the shell, and that's
the meat on the inside. Like, you've seen, like,
the clam. That's what it is? Yes.
No, there's a lot of meat in that
clam.
Yeah, well, that's a different
type of clam.
Oh, good.
Yeah.
I guess I'm just picturing.
Yeah, the mall is in the ocean.
They just have two shells,
and then they slightly open up,
and they have little tentacles
that are on the outside.
Okay.
And they'll just filter feed.
Thanks for explaining that.
Yeah, yeah.
So, cool.
Cool.
There you go.
Yeah.
Thank you for coming out of the podcast.
Yeah.
We did it.
Every time.
Thank you, man.
Yeah.
Thank you, man.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Let me just take a picture.
