The Iced Coffee Hour - Prank Calling Billie Eilish and Drake with Airrack | Ep. 17

Episode Date: September 21, 2020

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Welcome to the 17th ever episode of the iced coffee podcast. Hour. Hour. One more time? You had one job. Go I do it again? No, you keep going. Just roll with it.

We're rolling with it. Yeah. We have made $4,069 on the podcast. Congratulations. That's a lot of money. Thank you. 17 episodes. What's that per episode?

Gosh, can you math? I can't math. I know. Yeah, it's like. Mac, Mac's a math. How much is $200? $200. $100.

Yeah, yeah, we're out of $200. Let's go. There we go. We're making $200 tonight. That feels good. That feels good. Thank you. You're welcome.

So we have you as a guest today. I'm actually really excited for this one. Cool. I'm excited to be here. I'm excited for everybody, honestly, who comes with the podcast. But this one especially because I've been watching your videos almost since the beginning. Really?

I would say probably for about seven months. No way. You've been like this entire year you've been really grinding up. Doing some amazing stuff. Thank you. Just outrageous, like your Logan Paul video. Yeah. It's just with a pool.

Yes. And the couch. Yeah, the couch. So give us a bit of an introduction of your channel and what you do for anybody who's new to this. We got to get you to a million subscribers by the end of the year. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So basically, I'm Eric, Arak, and we make videos every single week. We say we deliver premium content every single week, which is basically these long form storytelling videos.

where we take top comments from the comment section sometimes, a lot of times, and we turn those into reality. So yeah, that's kind of the vibe. And the main goal of the channel is to prove that in 2020, you can still make it as a creator on the platform because everybody seems to think that that's no longer an option. So the goal is to get from zero to one million subscribers by the end of 2020, before the end of 2020.

Got it. But you've been doing videos with some really big people, David Dobrick. You surprised David Dobrick and the GT3. I surprised David Dobrick with himself. Yeah. How do you do that? How do you find out where he is? You have a lot of connections because you've been with a lot of different people and a short span of time.

There's got to be some trick to it. Yeah. I always say like the trick to collaborating with people like much bigger than you is to, what is that? Jesus. It's a cat. It's a cat. Jeez, hold on.

Yeah, you're good. So anyway, I don't know where you were. So what's your secret? Oh, the secret. The secret sauce. I don't know that there's like a super. secret sauce. Here's kind of how I think about the whole collaboration thing. I'm like a big consumer of YouTube, right? And I think as a creator, I understand, I think about like if I was,

if somebody's trying to collaborate with me or get my attention, how would they do that the best? And that the best way that I think about doing that is by pitching someone an idea that they literally cannot say no to because it's such a good idea. And it makes content for them and it makes content for you. But more importantly, it makes content for them. And then you by secondhand also have content. Does that make sense? That makes sense. It does, though, but how do you reach them?

I mean, they must get hundreds. It's not thousands of pitches every day. How do you stand out? Yeah, I mean, the deal is that I kind of don't get in touch with them. Sometimes I do, but most of the time I don't. And like, for example, the Logan video. I found out that Logan was trying to sell his $20,000 couches. And I became the buyer of those couches.

So in order to receive the money for me to buy the couch, is he by necessity has to collaborate with me. So I'm basically like... Yeah, you kind of force your way into it, which is smart. I try to not use the F word. Oh, okay, okay, okay. But it's, yeah, I mean, it's, you know...

But you're not being overbearing because also, I mean, in that video, he was so happy. Yes. Like, he was like, ecstatic. He was like, that's the only thing I wanted for my birthday was for someone to take these couches away from me, and you did exactly that. So he's very appreciative of that.

Totally. And that's, like, where the offering value and, like, helping them comes in. Yeah. Wouldn't you have an assistant or someone else? sell something because if I'm selling something I'd probably just have Jack deal with it. Yeah, I mean, so we didn't know for sure if Logan would even be there when we went. There's a lot of the videos that we make that as a complete gamble.

So I flew out, cashed out an SBA loan, which we can go over if you want to, and everything flew out to L.A., went all the way to his house, rented the U-Haul, all on the gamble that Logan would be there. And then five minutes before we showed up, I said, by the way, like my client would love to meet Logan. And she said, yeah, Logan wants to be there and vlog, you know, if that's cool with you guys. So like we only knew five minutes before actually doing it that Logan would actually be there. So there would have been a chance you would have been out like how much 20 something thousand dollars? Yeah 17.5 but then also like travel oh yeah it's $3,000. Right. Yeah.

Wow. Should we give a little bit of background too just in case? Yeah. Do you want to explain the video or whatever? Um, the couch series specifically. Yeah. So the couch series was a series that we did on YouTube where I bought and then made a series about Logan Paul's $90,000 Mercedes-Benz couches. And basically what happened was he put a swipe-up thing on his Instagram story and explain that he was trying to sell these couches and that was the one thing he wanted for his birthday was to get rid these couches. And for me, I was growing. I was trying to find ways to grow.

And when I saw that, like immediately for me, that clicked as an opportunity to like find a way to grab onto something that was pop culture and then show YouTube. that like my personality, my skill set, and my production quality and associate that with something that people were already interested in. So, reached out, tried to bid the highest out of anybody, made like a fake email, fake phone number,

the whole thing, a fake representative from like a team who was a private furniture buyer for an unnamed client who wanted these couches for their bar area, convinced his assistant that this was a real thing, and then got a brand to sponsor

part of the video, but they wouldn't give me, like, they weren't going to give me any money up front. I only had like 80,000 subscribers at the time. Um, yeah. Why did he want to get rid of the couches so badly? He said that they were the most uncomfortable couches he, he had ever sat on. So they were, they were, they were they, they're definitely not comfortable. They're definitely not comfortable. I, they're made by Mercedes-Benz. Created by Mercedes-Benz and they were $90,000. $90,000. Why did Logan buy them?

Uh, he told me that he bought them because he was in a flex stage of his life. where he was making like effing money and he was making like a million bucks a day vlogging and selling merch and he thought why not just going to be. Wait, okay, wait, let's hold up, a million dollars. How much is he making? A million dollars a day?

No, no, back then, it was like stage. Yeah, yeah, yeah, hundreds of thousands of not a million dollars some days. Big boy money. That's crazy. That was predominantly merch though. It has to be like. Is that like a big day?

Is it like he'll make an average salary like most days? And then like one day it's like, you know, oh, made 500 grand. It had a big merch launch. And the next day is like 10 grand. So from what I understand his merch company specifically in that his big like 2017 year made about $50 million. That's just merch. So gosh.

Okay. So then probably half of that is product at least. So then he's probably making 25 net after staff. Let's call it 22. The margins on like clothing is insane. So typically it's like 50% profit is what you're shooting for. So he's probably making about 20 million or maybe 10 to 10. 15 after tax.

That's one stream of income. One stream of income. Here's what I think is the most interesting financially about that whole situation. Jeff, who is his manager, I talked to him briefly a while back and he explained to me the mindset behind that and you have to think for fashion, right? It's one of the biggest marketing spend industries, right? Constantly trying to push this product. How do we make this like clothing appear cool to get people to buy it?

That's a huge expense, right? For Logan, there's no expense. All I have to do is make videos every day that get to do. tens of millions of views. And I will, he literally, they said no to every single person who ever tried to sponsor a video

in the two years that they made videos said no to every single person, hundreds of millions of dollars they said no to, to invest in brand equity in the Maverick line. He's smart. Smart. He's smart. People don't give him and Jake the credit I think they deserve.

I think they're just marketing geniuses. Yeah, you can say what you want about it, but you can't say that that was like a dumb decision. And maybe that's the people they're surrounding themselves with, but they work hard and they, make smart decisions. Wow. So he was in the stage and he thought 90,000 on a couch. This is like an hour of work.

Let me spend an hour. Get this Mercedes-Benz couch. Yeah. Did he sit on the couch prior to buying it? That's a good question. See, I don't know these things. I've seen the receipt of him spending the $90,000. And, I mean, I sat on it with him.

He said it was delivered from Italy and it just came in the mail and was delivered to his house. That's like the explanation that I haven't sat on any of the French. I bought. It's just, if it looks comfy. it's comfy it's interesting yeah I've never sat on furniture but you're not spending 90,000 dollars there's something of yeah

there's something that feels like there's like a tiered point if you're gonna spend 90K yeah you have like a professional furniture tester like there's some pre sits on the couch before you you would have to fly someone to Italy yeah to go and sit down imagine that's your job you like you get on a plane days you sit you're like

you have a sheet where you're going to rate it like check boxes comfort level out of 10 firmness softest okay if I had to give it a comfort level That's how it would be like a two. Okay. What's this on your... This right here?

Yeah. I mean, it's four, five. Really? Yeah. That's pretty long. I was expecting higher. Yeah. I'm very comfortable.

Come on. I'm pretty comfortable. I mean, but it's... So you have pretty high standards for... Like five is like average. Listen, you guys have to understand you're dealing with a couch connoisseur. I spent months with these couches, you know? That's true.

So... I mean, I'm probably like an eight or a nine maybe. Now I'm very comfortable. I'm like a seven. You don't look comfortable one bit too. Jeez, so where's the couch now? That's a good question. It's been, my goal with the couch was to make the series and then distribute them among the YouTube community and let other people make videos with them.

So I think they're just like spread out. I have none of them. One of them was I filled with dynamite and blew up. So there's three sections of the couch that are somewhere in YouTube land lost. I have no idea where they are. What made you want to make videos? What were you doing before 2020? Making videos just for like different purpose.

Okay, like what? So I had like a production company. I still have it. But it is a wedding video and photo company. And we basically like I don't shoot any of them. So you'll appreciate this because you're a business guy. But basically we pay for marketing in 15 different cities and then subcontract out talent to fulfill. And then we have a full time editor who those card boxes of SD cards are then FedEx overnight back to our editor.

And he cranks out videos and photos. Are you still doing that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That runs in the background. So that's like, that kind of like allows me to spend all of my money that I make on YouTube on YouTube. Okay. So you're still earning a living then in the background of what you're doing from YouTube. Correct. Okay. Yeah, absolutely. Smart. But why then make the change to YouTube this year? Why not do it last year? What, what sparked that? It was kind of like a thing with that business. Like I couldn't justify doing YouTube until this year based on like my income from that company and based on like how much time was

to get that company up and running to the point where I didn't have to spend every day, every hour of every day doing that and delegating tasks and like putting a team together that could take care of that without me having to spend my time on it. And the goal for the last two years has been 2020 is the year that I'm going to do YouTube. Walk us through your first video. How do you start? My first video. No views, no subscribers. My first video. What was that first video?

A star one. Yeah, that was like in 2016. I mean, I've been making videos since I was like nine years old. Those are the first ones on that channel, but I've been making videos on YouTube. Failed channel after failed channel after failed channel after failed channel until this year. So yeah, it's definitely not an instant success story. It probably appears that way, but it's definitely not. I made a bunch of channels.

They all have like one to 300 subscribers or something and then one finally took off, you know? Did you know that this channel was going to be successful? I knew that I was going to work as hard as humanly possible on this channel and that I was, was going to give it my full priority and to make it successful. And if it wasn't successful, that was okay because I was going to give it everything that I possibly had. That was kind of my mentality behind it. Like I will spend all of my money on this until it's successful and I will give

it all of my attention until it's successful. And if it's not, there's something wrong with me or there's something wrong with YouTube. I don't know. Yeah. That makes sense. I mean, today, my mission was to watch every single one of your videos because I've seen like a couple of your videos like here and there. Like, I think I saw one of the couch series.

And then I saw like the David Doberk and. impersonation one. Yeah. But today I was like, okay, I got to learn a lot about Eric. So I went and I started at the bottom. And I watched like all the way up until like I didn't make it. Yeah. No, I like I have like five left that I didn't get to finish.

But but yeah, like the amount of work that you've done just this year alone is like insane. Yeah. Like you've done huge production videos, right? Where it's, I'm guessing it's probably just you and like maybe one other person or two other people. But it looks like it's like done by like a huge like. Oh, thanks, man. Yeah. How much work goes on behind the scenes to make a video?

I mean, tons, dude. Tons. Max looking at me over here because he kind of works on it too. But, I mean, we spent five days and had three mental breakdowns making the last video. I mean, it's like, I mean, it's an entire, eventually we'll bring on like production staff and stuff to kind of help with coordinating. But right now, like, throwing a couch out of a moving airplane. Like, that is an entire stunt that I had to coordinate with myself, my pseudo manager at the time. and that was it.

And the airplane place closed on us this. Like they canceled on us day of. We had Jay Alvarez coming and I had to figure that out. And then we had to find a new place and then sign all these things and pay $6,000. I mean, it's a nightmare. I mean, making these things happen is a nightmare. How do you come up with these ideas? Where does that come up?

I don't come up with any of the ideas. I come up with a few, but most of them are community generated. I feel like I have like one of the best fan bases. Like they're like, they're like, the problem. The problem with them is that they get bigger and bigger every time. So they come up with these crazy ideas and then like all I have to do, all I have to do is make it reality. How did that video come about of sneaking into Dan Bolzerian's place? Oh man.

That was my idea. That was definitely my idea. There's something. That was one of the craziest videos that I would. Did you see that video? Yes. I was on the edge of my seat the entire time because it's like these aren't fake. Yeah.

You could tell some videos that they're obviously staged and there's a bit of descriptive. But it was like you hiding out. Yeah. It's just wild. Yeah, sure. Give it the back end a little bit if you're going to. Totally. So that video was no longer available.

If you can talk about it. Yeah, there's some stuff I can talk about. There's some stuff I can't. But that video no longer is available on YouTube. How about this? Tell us what happened on that for anybody who has not seen that video. Absolutely. Yeah.

So you can't see it anymore. But basically what happened was I had the bright idea of Dan Bilzerian, who was recently actually kicked out of that house, which I don't know if you made videos about it. Non-payment to rent, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

basically was throwing his annual Valentine's Day party. And it's invite only. The girl to guy ratio is five to one. So it's like all girls, one guy for every five girls. And it's just like all of the Instagram models of all of L.A. go there. And it's like the most exclusive party in L.A.

Normal people, 30 normal people could buy tickets to come to the party for $20,000 each. Every ticket was $20,000. He was selling 30 of them. So in my mind, I thought it would be really fun. affinity for sneaking into places. I don't know what it is, but I have just this addiction to doing just crazy stuff like that. So anyway, I flew to L.A. decided I was going to sneak into

Dan Bolzarian's party. You probably had like 20,000 subscribers at the time. And I just thought it would be a crazy video. So I spent the entire day trying to sneak into Dan Blasarian's party, trying to fake wristbands, trying to sneak into his property to like talk to somebody and find a way to get a ticket in. And at the end of the day, nothing ended up working out. We end up getting kicked out of of a certain area and I decided my last ditch effort would be to just walk up through the front gates. And I did and nobody stopped me. And I walked in at about 7 p.m. The party started at 11 so I had four hours to kill. So I hid in some bushes in his front yard and slept there for four hours and then I woke up and then made my way into the party. A lot of stuff happened between that time.

But yeah, we made it into the party, posted a video about it. The video went huge pretty quickly. and then within 48 hours I was reached out to by Dan's Law Team in person and over email. In person? Yeah, it was surf papers. Wow. Yeah. So I think that was how I found your video. That's how I found the channel.

Right. And in the very beginning too, because I noticed I watch a lot of YouTube. And I think YouTube sometimes recommends me content as like a test. And when I watch it all the way to it, I knew that was going to be a big video. Cool. I think I saw it under 100,000 views. And I knew like, oh, man, this is going to be like a million. in plus for you video.

Yeah. How does he find you in person? It's a great question. He has a really phenomenal law team. They do their, apparent, I sent it to a few, like my lawyer and he's like,

oh yeah, that's a huge team. So they had my at my home address and everything like on the, on the papers that they serve me. So they somehow got all my information. Came to the door, gave me the papers, got an email at the same time.

So they just want the video down. They want the video down or else. Yeah. Yeah. They're not going to pursue you. Why would they want the video down? to like it. That's the hard part is like I do understand that I do empathize with them because it's

basically a tutorial on how to sneak into Dan Belzerian's house, right? That's fair. This high profile celebrity. Yeah. And I basically created a tutorial on how to do that, which is understandably if you're a property owner, I did not like break and enter. I literally just walk through the gates to a to a what is basically an open invite party. If you're not going to like you're just going to let me walk in, it's a party.

You're throwing a party and inviting 5,000 people to your house. I'm not just like he's at the house by himself. like hanging out and I'm just going to hop the fence and go try to hang out with Danblesarian. Yeah. I'm coming to his party. Right. But yeah. I mean, obviously he has the resources to pursue that and like drain you drive money if you

wanted to fight that. Absolutely. What would be your legal right if you snuck into a party and you decided I have all the money in the world? I'm going to fight this back. Is there any grounds that you could keep the video up? It's a great question. I ran it by my lawyer and he was basically like there are law.

team will find a way to make an example of you if you don't take that video down. And at the time, yeah, like I said, I had like 20,000, maybe after that video, I had like 45,000 subscribers. And I was trying to think of a way, like, could I sell merch? And like, maybe it's called like, it's, it says like, band Dilsarian on it because he didn't want to use, he didn't want me to use his name, like, for likeness and all this stuff. And I, like, make a warped version of his face. And I try to sell band Delsarian merch and, like, pay for the legal costs, which would be like a

series in itself. But I think I would probably have lost hundreds of thousands of dollars. I remember NELC did that a long time ago. I think they raised like $5,000, $10,000 from their subscribers to get them out of jail. Or to pay for something. Yeah, yeah. I've been watching NELK too since the very beginning. Yeah.

Like six years ago, five years ago. You remember them traveling around in their car? Of course. Yeah. Like those were the original, like, that's like four years ago. Oh, yeah. It's cool to see them come so far. Oh my God.

They've really bit everything. They touch right now. It's just, I love it. It's interesting that you watch a lot of YouTube because I watch a lot of YouTube. Yeah. Yeah. And you're as productive as you do as well. Yeah.

I would say I probably watch about an hour, maybe two hours a day at YouTube. Really? In between everything else. What kind of stuff are you watching, just whatever? Anything. I love the homepage. I think the YouTube recommended section for me is really good. And they just keep giving me like really great content.

Okay. But NELC is one of those other channels that have been watching for such a long time. Interesting to see them persevere on the platform as it's become tighter and tighter and tighter. But they continue to grow. Yeah. And they got the algorithm working against them. for everything that they do. There's no way YouTube is wanting to endorse parting

and everything that they're doing. And they're growing massively despite... I've been watching them on Social Blade and they're growing by 10 to 20,000 subscribers a day, every day. Wow. Like clockwork. How many subscribers do they have? What, five something now?

Five something, six million. Jeez. Yeah. And they were just at like two or three, like a year ago. Explosive. Yeah. I think they're a great testimony to,

consistent effort over time on YouTube. You know what I mean? They did not. They were not huge, but they have consistently uploaded great content over time, which has led to success. It wasn't immediate.

It just took time. Do you think that the YouTube algorithm is trying to promote your channel at all because they want more creators to like be able to make it or like to at least like think that they can make it thus putting more content out there? And like,

I don't know, dude. I don't feel like the algorithm, like helps me at all. You're on trending. Yeah, that's the first time ever. Yeah. In a video where you said you wanted to get to a million by the end of the year. Yeah, that was, maybe they are.

Yeah. This is what I think on that video specifically, I did not put a brand deal on the video. I spent $15,000 in one video and it was great content with high retention and everything like that. And I think somebody at YouTube was like, give this kid a freaking phone. That's what I think too. I think if you had a sponsorship in that video, it wouldn't have ended up on training. But then again, Michael Reeves video was sponsored by Amazon.

That ended up on trending. But that had to go on trending because that got like 3 million views in like that. Right. That kid is my, I will say this right here. He's my favorite YouTuber. He is amazing. He's my favorite person and entire podcast. Oh my gosh.

Oh, geez, the content. Yeah. If you guys got together in a room machine, the content. I'll do that kid's videos. Find a way to do a video with him. I would love to. I need to get in contact with him. Okay.

He's a legend. He is, I rarely watch YouTube and laugh. by myself, I laugh by myself watching his videos. We got to find a way to make that happen. Yeah. I could shoot him a text and see if he wants to do something like that. Yeah. I think that would be cool.

He's a legend. I could be the matchmaker, the YouTube matchmaker. That would be fun. If we do a little series. Graham is the YouTube matchmaker. Oh, oh man. But hold on, I blanks here.

No, you're good. It's crazy to be doing this with you. Yeah. Because I feel like I've been watching you. for a long time. That's, yeah, like a long time. I'm shocked, yeah.

I remember, I remember you sub a million and like, what I was inspired by from your channel was like, I mean, I don't know what your schedule was, but I feel like you were uploading every single day. I was. Every day.

Yeah. Are you still doing that? Yep. Every single day. Yep. See, that's it. Yeah, so it's been, oh, you know what?

Let's, I'm just so paranoid now of these. Yeah, you're good. Yeah, so on the main channel, I've been three videos a week for almost four years now. I think in January it's going to be four years, three videos a week. Second channel has been four videos a week since last year. So I've been doing a video a day for about a year now.

I took a brief hiatus of posting. I think it was like five a week instead of seven. Yeah. I enjoy it. But now the second channel's three videos a week. The main channel is still three, but then the podcast is on the seventh day. So it's still, so this is that seventh video a week. And you before Jack were doing this all by your. yourself.

Yep. That's crazy. Until I would say it was April, I believe Jack came in and started editing for the second channel. So before April, everything was, uh, oh, Jack would edit the phone calls on a second channel. Yeah, an occasional video, like once a week video. Yeah. So like a year and a half ago, you were like, realtor nobody.

Or is that two years ago? Uh, I would say about two and a half years ago. You were just watching a lot of YouTube and thought maybe I should try this. Right. What mode, why did you? I loved YouTube. Yeah. I wanted to make a channel back in 2011.

Okay. I was watching all of the, I was big into like prank channels. Yeah. So like overboard humor was one of those channels. I was watching like Vitaly, Roman Outwood pranks. Yeah. All of these guys.

And I was like, I want to do that. I didn't necessarily want to do pranks. Okay. But I knew I wanted to do YouTube. And I wanted to make content about like money and how to work as a real estate agent. But I figured like no one else is making content like that. Like who would want to watch me? Yeah.

And I really felt like I'd just be making a fool of myself and I was so embarrassed like what if I post a video on YouTube? And one of my friends sees it. Yeah. And it has like three dislikes on it and like 20 views and it looks stupid. So like it makes it so hard to start. I remember feeling like that too. It's the hardest part. Right. So it was one it was like Christmas Eve 2016 I think and I said you know what I've had enough. It was a slow open house. So I just filmed myself with my iPhone. Just telling my story. about how he got started in real estate and started buying rental properties. And I just posted it, thinking nothing of it. And I was obsessive with commenting on other channels back then because I had no subscribers. So what I would do is I'd comment on channels like Alex Becker and Grant Cardone and Ty Lopez. He was like, hey, this is a cool story, blah, blah, blah. Come, come and look at my channel. You would do this.

Yeah. I would do the same thing. That's so funny. Yeah. And that's what got me my first like 20, 30 subscribers just doing that. And I just got lucky. one of my videos started getting recommended against Ty Lopez. Ty Lopez had a video about like how to make passive income or something like that.

Was it in his garage or? I don't know what it. I think it was like in a, this was one of his videos in his backyard with like this, the sunset strip in the back. Classic. Yeah. And it started getting recommended to that because I looked at my creator app and I started like, wow, I'm getting like 10 views an hour.

Yeah. And this, I'm not promoting it. Isn't that funny how much of an adrenaline spike that is at the beginning? Oh yeah. And I got email. everything. So every time someone subscribed me, you got an email. Every time someone commented, I got an email. And as soon as I got that, I was like, I was on it. So I could respond back. And it slowly started to grow. And then about three, 400 subscribers

in, it's just, I started getting like 300 views an hour. And I was freaking out. There was, I remember I was with a buddy in Vegas. And I would check my app like every hour to say like what the views are at. I just saw 300. I thought like, I went viral. Seriously. I thought like, I thought, like, you're probably talking. I was showing it. I was like, I don't know where it's coming from. Like, where is it coming from? And I thought, like, maybe it went on Reddit or, like, someone had posted it.

And I was freaking out. That got me to 1,000 subscribers. And then once I had 1,000, it went from 1,000 to 50,000, like, three months. Which for me, I was, I was floored at that. But that was really the point. And I was still posting, like, two to three times a week where I was like, oh, wow. Like, I really got to take this seriously. There's a lot of potential here.

And that's when I decided, like, I'm not going to miss an upload. I'm just going to keep going forward. this and I'm just going to make videos that I myself would want to watch. Yeah, dude. I think that that's what was so inspiring whenever I found you was that you want, you have a great personality. The content is great. But moreover, the most important part of the entire thing was like persistence on the

platform. You were just persistent on the platform, right? Yeah. What percentage of your success do you attribute to that? I don't know because I just have so much fun doing it. I see other people who are just as persistent, but don't get anywhere. And you could tell that maybe they're not in it that much or they did. I don't know.

I was so analytical about like what the titles had to be, what the thumbnails had to be, what was like in the description. I looked at this from like a like I was playing chess with every video. It's like what can I move around to try to hit this algorithm? And then when it hits, you're like, okay, that's good. Let me do more like that. And then trying to see like what other videos are getting recommended to me. Like my biggest inspiration is the homepage of YouTube.

Right. Because I know those are the videos YouTube is pushing and that people want to watch. So if I could make videos like that, that's just what I go for. I feel the exact same way about it. I think like YouTube is like I look at it as such a game. Yeah. It's such a game. Yeah.

It's like the most fun game. And it's like it has the highest highs and the lowest lows. You know what I mean? It's a bit like gambling. Yes. It's just like gambling. Because you just get the occasional win. It's like, oh, let me get more like that.

I mean, but you get so many losses. Well, I wouldn't call them losses. But like just you don't hit. Yes. You know? It's like playing craps. And then it's like there's like there's like, like a short term strategy to it and then there's a long term strategy to it and it's like what is the

balance of like getting views now versus getting views over time and is this video adding value to my long term? I would say it's detrimental to get a lot of views very quickly. Sure. Unless all of your content is the same because I've seen so many channels to get one big viral video but there's no way they could sustain that same content over and over and over again. And then they get an audience. It just doesn't care what else they have to post. Absolutely. Yeah. I I think one of the biggest assets I have when a video did go big was that like Mac and I call it, it's either a fire starter or a log. So the log content for us is personality building, brand building videos that is still like great content. But it's not necessarily like the most viral idea on planet Earth.

So that when a video does go viral, the most important part is that people have something to go back and watch. Yeah. And now like associate. So what's a log for you? What video is a log? Like a log for me was like driving the world's smallest car across the country. Okay. So you're getting like more depth.

It's still like a viralish idea. I still have confidence that video in a world could get a million views. But there's a lot more depth to that. You're seeing more of like me as a human being. It's not Mr. Beast, this, that the other, and the thumbnail in the title. But it's still a engaging YouTube idea. Yes. You're getting more depth than that.

Right. Does that make sense? Yeah. We employ somewhat the same thing. We have long term videos like how to invest in 2020. We know those videos right out the gate are going to be tens, which is like the worst performing video of the last 10. Yeah.

But give it six months, it'll be like a two or three. Correct, exactly. So we do that versus some other videos which are really relevant now. Like the stock market videos are always like three and above. Yeah. Which means they do really well. Yes. And then they're done the next day.

Like three days later, they get no views. Totally. So we do the same thing. Do you pay attention to those analytics? Yeah, for sure. I think that's, it's like super telling. Like, our, my goal is like if I have a video that's a one out of ten, it's like, okay, I made one video that did extremely well.

How do I make two more videos like that next month? Like how do I? Like how do I, it's like a constant game of like hitting videos against each other and like almost like breeding viral content. Yeah. So it's like if I bring these two ideas together and that does the best in the content, how do we make more of those next month? And the best out of those, we pick those and do more of those next month. What's your schedule like now? We try to upload once a week and we try to make, like it's like a TV show every week.

and yeah, I mean, we're usually producing about a month out, so we're working on videos that are about a month out right now and like slowly sort of catch up to that and make sure that we're scheduling out in advance. I'm not the greatest at that, I won't lie, but that's what we try to do in an ideal world. And how much money would you say you spend per video? Minimum on a video I'm going to spend probably three grand,

which is like low for us, but I'll probably usually like last week we spent $8,000, we spent $20,000 last week on videos. So we spent We spent 15,000 on the first video and 5,000 on the second video And those were expensive ones Are you working on multiple videos at once Or do you typically just do one independent project

And then move on to the next once the previous one's completed? No, we definitely bounce around Like we're getting footage right now For like a video and two videos from now We were shooting some stuff yesterday for videos Two videos from now So we're like constantly piecemealing footage together From the catalog

If you keep trying to one up it How do you one-up some of these videos? I see some of these. I'm like, how do you possibly do better than the Mr. Beast video? Yeah. I think that... Besides a boxing match. Now you've got to box Mr. Beast for the island.

Maybe I should recommend that to him. Yeah, I mean, I think that that's always like the question for me, but I think that's the most fun question, you know, is like six months ago I was the Dan Balsarian guy. Yes. Three months later, I was the couch guy. Three months later, again, I'm like doing the stuff with Mr. Beast. So it's just a constant game of like, how do we like make more YouTube content that people are going to.

Are you worried about being pigeonholed into the guy that does these like crazy stunts or sneaks into these places or does these? Because I'm guessing you can't just keep doing crazy stuff. I mean, maybe you can. Yeah. I love doing crazy stuff. But I think that's where the balance comes in between like if my mindset was I always have to make a one out of ten video. Like every video I make has to be one of ten. I think my career life would probably be like one year and I think done.

But that's not. my mentality is like, let's get a one out of 10 video. Let's push traffic to the channel and then let's make some other videos. They don't have to be one out of a 10. They just need to be like videos that help people understand me as a human being, me as a person, invest in me. And yeah, I do these viral stunts every once in a while. Like once a month it'll be super viral stunt, but bring the audience in from maybe another person's audience,

cultivate that group, that group of people into fans of you and then you can do your next viral stunt, you know? What are you doing for money right now? How much, can you share how much the channel makes? Yeah, for sure. Let's hear about it. You have a crazy CPM. Yes. What's your CPM?

Can I ask you or not? Yeah. Oh yeah. It's anywhere from $20.30. God, dude. So that means for every video that we make. So if I were to make $2,000 on a video, you would make like $8,000. So my CPM is like $5.

Wow. Yeah. Okay. Which is pretty normal for my type. Well, it's actually high for my type of content. So really? Yeah. For sure.

Most people that do like vlog. Can I see the. the app? Yeah, can see. Yeah. You have my phone over there. Let's see. I'll just describe what I'm seeing for the camera. Yeah, for sure.

So yeah, you go to revenue. And then we'll go to... Gotta go down and it should say... CPM, there you go. Wow! United States CPM is just over $4. Yeah, yeah, $4.47. Can I see the overview here?

I mean, just take it over, bro. Yeah. Let's see what we're working. Check it out. Wow, look at this. Real-time views. 830,000 views last 48 hours. Yeah.

Not bad. 60 minutes, 9,400 views. I see. So you get these big spikes when you post and then it goes down. Okay. Correct, yeah. Gotcha. Are you still doing quite well?

Like in the past 28 days, if I, like you made like, what, 9 grand? Yeah. Something like that. 73,000 subscribers in last month. Yeah. Not bad. Yeah, we try to keep it. Try to keep it high.

But yeah, so like, it's interesting, too, to see this. bar down here. So like the baseline of how many views and how much money and everything else that we're making steadily increases as the body of work increases. The more videos we have, the more we're like averaging making on a day. I just only have like 50 videos. I am shocked at your reviews because it's you get these spikes for about six days. Yeah. And then it's almost nothing after that. Yeah. Look at that. That's super odd. I would not have expected to see something like that. Yeah. That's that's the issue I think. think with virality is that it's big for like six days, seven days, and then nothing.

Right. I'll show you mine. I'm pretty interesting. Oh, yeah. But I mean, you get these spikes, but I guess the last 90 days, you get these spikes, but overall, there's a lot of consistency between it. I think that, I think that like, but then again, it might be the upload schedule, which is keeping consistency. The ride that steals the spotlight every time it hits the road, that's the Volkswagen Tiguan.

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Yeah. It's so crazy, dude. That is I love. But this is like, but this is like. like where what I'm talking about comes in. You have such an enormous body of work. Yes. That is constantly,

every time you make a video that's an asset to you. Right. And it's creating income every single day. Right. So by aggregate, all of those videos that you've made every single day for the last year you have are constantly pulling in. Whereas I have 50 videos on my whole channel.

So it's like... That's a great point. That's like, I think that's where that comes from. Yes. But yeah, dude, like there's a world where like I would love to do a channel like that. It makes so much sense. Business business wise, that makes so much sense. Are you into business? I love personal finance. I love it. How many credit cards do you have? Three credit cards. Which

ones? I have the, these are questions I asked on a first date by the way. I asked, I asked Macy. Okay. I think we talked about what our credit score was. I recently, is it bad to cancel a credit card? Yeah. I did that recently. Why? Because I canceled the Amazon one because I was never using it and the rewards were really bad. That's a free credit card though. Yeah, but I would but you have more open lines of credit It lowers your utilization which should end up helping your score and also average age of credit If I if I increase my amount of lines of credit Yeah

So I have an interesting credit card like tactic that I've been using and I actually want you to diagnose this I've never said this out loud before Oh, that's yeah Okay, so this is what I did when I started a YouTube channel, right? Yeah My idea was I want to take on zero liability to start the channel Okay, of my like own money. I want to bet I want to YouTube is like gambling Yeah, so I want to gamble other people's money in order to become successful okay on YouTube So what I did was I opened a credit card. It was a Chase credit card.

It was the Southwest Chase credit card. Okay. I don't know. You're talking about? I'm not familiar with that video. I got the credit card. They gave me like a $1,000 limit on it or like $2,000 limit. I called them, had them lower the limit to $500.

And then that was now my amount that I could spend in order to make my videos. So basically that card, I now have. $500 to start my YouTube channel. So I would spend like $100 on a video and hope that I would make the $100 back. And I would spend another $100 on a video and hope I would make the money back. And I would spend it on the card and then whatever money I made back off that video, I would use to pay the credit card off. So like, for example, I wanted to make a video where I made like a cyber truck out of cardboard. It costs like $250 for the video.

So I use $250 of credit. I make the video. I'm betting and hoping that that video will produce enough income to pay the card back off. It doesn't, right? Then we do Surprising David Dobrick Or getting in Dale, what was the title of that video?

What is it? Say it out of it. I thought it was surprising David Dobrick With David Dobrook or? I watched it was David Dobrick. No, no, no, no, no. It was the one where we went to David Doebrick and met him.

I stuck in to David Dobick's blog as fake David Dober. I was not in the David Doberk's blog. I spoke David Doberk. Yes. So I spent all $500 on that video hoping. that that would pay it off. So I bought plane tickets. We got out there. We did the whole thing.

Then that video paid the card off. Once that happened, I increased my limit to $1,000, spent $900 on the Dan Belzerian video, used the money from that to pay the card off, increase my limit. And they would constantly incrementally increase my limit and max out the credit card to then pay it off. Are they running hard poles every time they're increasing your credit? No, it's super easy. Like they never even, they wanted to increase my limit more. Okay. But they're not running your credit to do that. They were just giving you these lines of credit on their own.

Okay, good. Okay. So they would basically just increase my credit every month and I would just use the money on the credit card and then pay it off at the end of the month. So I would... Okay. I would get to like 50 to like 75% utilization on the card

and then I would pay it off at the end of the month. And that's kind of how I like grew the channel with no money. Is that a bad idea? Probably. It's psychological though. It worked. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

From a credit standpoint, it makes no sense. But if it motivates you, then I am all for it. Yeah, yeah. I don't know. For some reason in my mind, I thought like, I don't want to use my own money. I'll just like leverage this and like...

I feel like that would lower your score though if you're consistently like maxing out your cards. It's definitely possible. But long term, it's not going to make that big of a difference. I think I have good credit now. I think my score is, I think my score is like 780 or something.

It's great. It's good credit. That's good credit. Yeah. What I would be doing because you have such high ad spent is, running it on the Amex? It's just, well, Amex is good,

but, keep opening up new credit cards and just racking up points. How many credit cards you think I should have? I'm spending probably like $30,000 a month on videos. Man, you can max out so many cards. Yeah. Because all you've got to do is hit the minimum spend. Okay.

So like the Chase Sapphire Reserve would be a great one. The MX Gold is the one I used for almost all of my spending right now. Yeah. MX platinum. You could get, what I would do, you could start getting into churning to open up a credit card, meet the minimum spend. Usually it's like $4,000 to $5,000. Get all the points.

Keep the card for your. year and then you could always cancel it or downgraded something else, but you're going to rack up so many points in the meantime. It's a bad idea for me to put all, for me to put all my spend on one card. I don't want to go over 50% utilization. Is that right? Right. I'm really bad.

Long term, it's not going to matter because you're going to pay it off anyway. Right. Yeah. Yeah. When you pay off a credit card, it's good for your credit. Yes. But if I'm over the limit, it's not as good as it would have been. Correct.

In the short term, it's going to mark you up. So, because now you have a high utilization. rate, which means you're a bigger risk to the bank. So you're going to have a lower score. It's not the end of the world. It goes back down as soon as you pay off the card. Because the way I've done it is, if I'm going to, so like for a brand deal, you know how this works because you do brand deals.

If the video is going to cost me $20,000, the brand is not going to give me the money up front. Where is that money going to come from? It's going to come from my own bank account or I can spend them on the card and get points towards whatever that is. And so in my mind, I'm going to spend it on the card, get some points for it. And then when the brand money comes back in and 30 days, you know, A 30 day net term brand deal, I'm going to use that to pay the card back off.

You're cutting that one close. Am I? Yeah. Yeah. Because otherwise you're going to start to pay interest on that card. Correct. Yeah. So you have a 60 day leeway on that credit card and you have 30 days to get paid by that sponsor.

You have 30 days to film it by the time you put the money on the card. So it's just, it's cutting it close. It's doable though. Yeah. I operate most of my decisions off of high risk, high reward and I don't think that that always is like a good. Are you investing right now? Yeah. I have an automatic thing that pulls money out of my account and puts it in Robin Hood.

Robin. And what are you investing in? Dude, you want me to pull it up? Yeah. Okay. Let's do it. I'm not a crazy. I'm not like a crazy.

Oh, man, I'm down. I was 100% up over time. Okay. Let me tell me what you think. Yeah. Okay. Well, am I doing a good job or a bad job? But this could be deposits.

How much are you deposing? It doesn't show deposits as a graph will only reflect the profits. Well done. So what was this before? So you started off for everyone who can't see. You started off, let's call it January 1st. Yeah. So you started off January at $13,000.

And now you're at $22. Yeah. What do we got? We got Amazon. Yeah. I got it in Amazon. I feel like earlyish. Okay.

Apple. Yeah. Delta. Yeah. Navidia. Tesla. You probably made some good money in Tesla. Netflix.

And which one is this? Fastly. Yeah, Fastly is a company that sells ad space to TikTok. Interesting. But they're not doing great right now, obviously. Only two shares, two and a half shares of Tesla. Dude. That's smart.

I had like six or eight shares of Tesla and I bought it at, that just turned out. Yeah, got to do a battery. That's good you're investing then. Yeah. How much? How much every week or month are you putting in? I think it pulls out $2.50 a week. Okay.

And puts it in there. Okay. Are you doing a Roth IRA? I do have a Roth IRA. I do not have any deposits going into there at all. You should go to the Roth IRA. Oh, yeah. This is your year to do the Roth IRA. Really?

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Why? Because I'm imagining you have so many expenses and so much overhead. You're reinvesting it all back into the business, so you're not going to be in a high tax bracket. So right now is the time to do the Roth IRA. Interesting. Yeah. So you're saying right now is the year because of the position that I'm in specifically.

Right. Before you make a lot of money. Sure, sure, sure. Once you start making a lot of money. Once I start showing income, you're saying. Right. So do it now and then max out as soon as you can for, for 2021. Do you have any other, I feel like right now I'm in a very special situation where I am starting to make some money on YouTube and I have like the money making guy on YouTube in front of me right now.

Do you have any other tips for me on like what to do with the income? Like say I do a brand deal and make $10,000 to $20,000. What do I do with that money? See, mine is so different because your content revolves around you doing these crazy things and spend. money. Mine would be like live in your car and save all of your money. That would be mine. That's the beauty behind your content is because it doesn't cost anything. It doesn't cost anything. And not only that, but I find it interesting that like my investing paves the way for more content. The more money I make, the more content I get to make about making money.

Is that a strategic thing you've created or was that just like the... It was a joke. So it started off as a joke as the infinite monetization loop. Yeah, but it's real. It's real. I'm looking at Tesla outside. That is a revenue generating. Well, it started when I made a video about how much money I made from YouTube. Right.

And then that video ended up making me money. So then it was how much money I made from talking about how much money. Yeah, dude. And then now the funny thing is millennial money. So it's, I'll react to millennial money. Yes. And then someone else will react to millennial money. And then I will react to that person.

React to Millennial money. So I think we did like a three-time monetization loop where I reacted to Kevin O'Leary reacting to Millennial Money. Yeah. There's one where you were on a millennial money episode. You reacted to yourself on that millennial money episode. Kevin reacted to that and then you also reacted to Kevin. This is four uploads. Well, a $30.

Yeah. Yeah. That is crazy. Oh, and then we get Macy reacting. Oh, yeah. His girlfriend. So Macy reacts to me reacting to myself reacting to millennial money. These are all in the main channel?

Second channel. And then we talk about it on the podcast. We're talking about it here. Is there any tips you give me to do that? How do I do that? I feel like I put so much resource and money into one video a week. You guys are just cranking these things out. I felt bad.

We had Shelby Church on the other week and she put so much work into this video about how much I spend in a week. And like you could tell, she probably put, I don't know, 30 hours of work into this video. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Really well done video. And then here I come along like just derping in there. Just like, what does she spend any money?

for 30 minutes Like ridiculing her About buying $12 salads Right It's like 30 minutes of work Did you make that video? I made the video I think I edited that

Did I have a Jack edited that video Took a gram like 40 minutes Yeah okay so it's like 40 minutes But that video made like double What she made actually creating the video So my reaction made more money than actual God dude that is so crazy But it's a different audience

I mean that's the thing So my audience is more so like personal fines So has a higher CPM Yeah than her audience which is more so watching I think I think I'm She gets some good money off of certain videos as well. Right.

Absolutely. Yeah. She has some videos that she's done well. Right. She is someone that I watched a lot of starting YouTube. Yeah. She has some great starter YouTube videos. Right.

How to make money in. Oh yeah. 100%. So, I mean, my advice, you would be to save it. Yeah. But then again, you have to reinvest. That's the, that's the thing. The thing is you're probably getting such an insane ROI investing in yourself and in, like,

your YouTube channel that it only makes sense to keep doing that. Yeah. There's two like kinds of creators. They're creators that make money. based off ad revenue. And then there are other creators that can redirect their audience to something else

to make like a lot of money. Right. Like you have Nalk who probably don't make a lot off ad revenue but they make a ton because they can redirect their audience into something else. And I think that you're probably

like the redirecting type. So if you could find a way to redirect your audience into like some others like form of like revenue generating source then I definitely encourage you to do that. What are your ways of making money besides assets and sponsorships?

You gotta find some way to monetize more than that. What is it? So I really, So I really, and you can tell me your opinion on this, I really believe on YouTube in the idea of asking for one thing. So like binary. Like I'm not going to ask for this. I'm not going to ask for this.

All I want this audience to do, like, and you know, like, if the people want it, they will get it. So like if they want me to hit a million subscribers, I'll hit a million subscribers. If you ask the audience for subscriptions, they'll give you subscriptions. If you ask the audience to buy your merch, they'll buy your merch. But like, if you ask for three different things, you'll receive nothing, right? So if you ask for a ton of different things, they're going to be confused and they don't know what, do. So like right now, all I'm doing is spending money in the videos and asking for the transaction to be all I want is subscriptions and return. And ideally, it increases the subscriptions increases

my ability to get bigger brand deals, sell more merge, create a bigger audience and monetize bigger in the future. So that is like, I'm just like. I found you could ask for a few things. So I always ask for a like, but you want them to take an action now. So like the liking the video, very easy. Just like the video. Yeah. Five minutes later, you could say, make sure to subscribe. Okay. Then they'll subscribe. I wouldn't say like make sure to like the video right now and then use this link down. But like I do that at the end. But whoever watches to the very end, if they haven't done that, most likely they're going to do it.

Yeah. But yeah, I found no issues with asking for multiple things. Okay. You're thinking about it as like a sales funnel almost. Like you'll hit them with. Not really. My whole thing is I don't want to be salesy at all. So I'll just put it at the end.

And so my thinking is that for someone who, who doesn't like the salesy approach, I'm not gonna put it in the beginning of the video because you're not gonna be receptive to it anyway. But the people will make it to the very end, I feel like wouldn't mind if I have something else to offer because most likely they would be interested in it. So that's where I put all the pitch at the very end.

And people wanna click out prior to that, they can. So that's been my thing. I just hate selling stuff, especially in the finance stuff. It's just, it's schemy. It's just because there's a whole team of just sharky people out there. It's just like, buy it. I don't wanna do that.

No, it's definitely, there's definitely a lot of, like, scammy versions of, like, you run what feels like the cleanest version of, like, a finance channel on YouTube. I feel like everything else is like, I might buy something from you and I'm probably going to get nothing from it. Like, it's like, it's a scary space to be in. Right. There's a lot, like, probably most people who advertise on your video and pay the $30 CPM are selling some kind of like a. Usually, right. Yeah. We owe a lot to them.

We don't want to say that in the video here, but we don't want to say that in the video. Okay, I got you. Make sure to watch the ads, though. Our viewers, see, that's, that's an ask. That's an ask because I believe that they, well, I can't. Just watch the ads. Watch the ads, guys. But what's your end pitch?

Because I feel like it's got to be something more than sponsorships, ad revenue. What else is there in the pipeline? For income and stuff? For income. What's your plan? Let's say you hit a million subscribers. Yeah. What, how do you make money?

Obviously, like, there's some kind of like a merch or some kind of a search or some kind of a skew that I can sell that is like a line of my brand. I think there's like the bigger, I think you're asking the right question. And like I'm thinking about that question of like what's like the bigger thing. And I think for me, 25 to 30% of the DMs that I get is like, do you have any tips on becoming successful on YouTube? Like that is like the audience that I attract. It's like aspiring creator.

Yes. What's interesting to me and maybe to you because I've watched so much YouTube is I've watched people like Casey Nystad or David Dobrick or now go from zero or you're following them from like a 100,000 subscribers blow up into these 10 to 20 million subscriber channels. But you never get to see like, how did they do that? Like you're asking me, how much work goes into these videos? I don't know, but you're interested. How do you do that?

And how much money are you spending? I'm super interested in opening like that window and showing people and creating a space where people can access all of the information on like what level of production goes into this. How are you connecting with people? Like, how did you do a video with David Dover? How did you do a video? And like answering those questions. in a way that they can then use to grow in YouTube as well.

Yeah. That's why we have the YouTube Creator Academy link down below in the description where I teach you how to grow a YouTube channel and turn that into a business. Is that right? Yeah, really. You have one. Yes. I need to watch it.

Yeah. That's kind of what we're thinking. We're trying to open. A lot of people are jumping on that right now. A lot of people. Tad of growing YouTube is now the next, I've seen at least like five or six other people recently this year open up their own programs about. about how to grow on YouTube.

Mine was one of the originals though. You're a very niche person. Yes. For me, you see my videos, they're like viral concepts and they hit and they work. So like if my goal, my goal is to grow to 20 million subscribers in five years. That's my goal.

So to watch somebody like that, that's where I'm aiming and to watch somebody go from zero to Mr. Beast in five years. How do you, that the window to like virality on YouTube I don't know. know if it's ever been opened. Wasn't Mr.

Beast wanting to do his own program? I think he was. He was. You know what's funny? He posted that on Twitter asking people if they would be interested in it. And one of the top comments was, we don't all have $100,000 to give away to people. And then his response was something like,

you're right, I guess they don't know anything about how to grow a channel. Exactly. It was hilarious. It was like, you could give people all the advice and they could just toss it out the window. 100%. But yeah,

I think our content is so different that I would almost not know how to do what you do. And I think my program, I don't know how valuable it would be for you. I mean, maybe a little bit for titles and thumbnails, if anything, but it's so different. Like a lot of the people who buy my program want to get into like more so the sit down finance stuff. Or like very, more niche topics than the big virality. 100%. And it would probably take me having 20 million subscribers to make the same amount of money that you make. Right?

because the content is just so different. Right. But most people, if you were to take people in general that want to be YouTubers, I could be wrong, but I'm going to assume probably most of that group right there wants to be vlogger, YouTuber personalities on YouTube, right? So how do you make a personality successful on YouTube? I can be wrong, but I don't know if that window's been opened, you know? For the virality, maybe not.

So your plan would be hit a million subscribers and then you could have some sort of program ready. I think I want to, our goal is to open. it soon and open the window before we hit a million subscribers and then shut it down. Why shut it down? It's cool, right? Like, you have a limited amount of time to be part of what is like a window into becoming successful on YouTube and at a million subscribers, we're not going to, the content's going to be gone.

So if you want to see how to become successful on YouTube, I've documented, there's like we're throwing together the trailer right now, but there's documented me saying like, I have 30 subscribers right now. I have 100, like, 1,500 subscribers right now. And we basically have a folder on our computer called the math. master plan, which is like documentation of how we built the entire channel and like the thought process is behind every video we've ever made. So cataloging that and turning it into what is basically an entire series of how we did what we've done. How much are you going to charge for that?

It's a great question. What do you think? Is it a course, like a how to tutorial? Or what is it? Or is it more so a documentary style that shows you in your thought process throughout the entire documentary but interactive? Yeah. And then we're and then And from here, we'll basically catch people up to where we're at right now, which is almost 600,000 subscribers. Yes. And then live, be updating and constantly posting as we're going and getting people involved. So are you going to teach people from the beginning?

Like, okay, you're at zero subscribers. Here's how you go from zero to 100, from 100 to 1,000. Here's some titles and thumbnails, some ideas, where to get inspiration. So it's all of that. This was a mistake I made here. Here's how to skip over it. And sort of walking people to the process of like making viral videos on YouTube. $300 is the sweet spot

I found. Under 300. Under 300 bucks. I think your audience is definitely different than Graham's though because Graham's audience could probably afford to pay a little bit more for a course than your audience could. Yeah, absolutely. Just based off your demographics, it's like 197. Yeah, the issue is you always

got to discount it. Because if you tell people it's 197 but they pay full price, they don't like that. You got to discount it. If you say it's $1,000 but today you can get $197. You know, don't do that. But you get what I say. You have to offer some sort of incentive.

I'm not sure if the, I'm closing it down as soon as I hit it is enough. People like to know they're saving money. I certainly do. What about the idea of a subscription model? That's what we've been trying to do with a mentorship group. Sure. I'm sure you are. So, yeah.

So we have, I think it's 105, 110 people in the group. We meet twice a week for an hour. Yeah. So far so good. Do you enjoy it? Yes. Cool. Yeah, it's a lot of fun.

And I give up my Sunday mornings. Every Sunday morning, 9 a.m. Do the mentorship group. Very cool. How much do you play it up for the camera? What, like the personality or the wrist or what? Just the energy, just the charisma. Mac,

what would you say I'm at right now on a charisma level compared to normal? Amazon presents Jeff versus Taco Truck Salsa. Whether it's Verde, Roha or the orange one. For Jeff, trying any salsa is like playing Russian roulette with a flamethrower. Luckily, Jeff saved with Amazon and stocked up on antacids, ginger tea, and milk. Habaniero? More like habanier, yes.

Save the everyday with Amazon. I'd say the energy's played up. Risk is actually that risky. Yeah, the risk is all, we're really spending that amount of money in risk. like everything on these videos. We really do risk everything on the video. Yeah. I mean, I can't tell you much, but with that last video with Mr. Beast,

and we drove 200 miles off the coast of America in a boat, the boat broke down and we were actually strained on an island for four hours and barely made it back to America. So it's very real. Not a lot's played up. I bring the energy up a little bit for the camera, probably like you do. How did you find Mr. Beast's island really? I'm just curious.

A million people wanted me to sneak into it and DMs me the coordinates. I did literally no work. Wow. It's just like my brand is like, oh, Mr. Beast has a, an island, Eric's going to go sneak into it. So I just immediately went the video as posted within a day. I had 14 people DM in the coordinates. Jeez.

Yeah. So it was pretty easy. Not bad. Were you worried about any, well, I guess Mr. Beast would not, like, lawsuit anybody. I can't imagine. Yeah. It would serve you with trespassing. Imagine that.

That would be a crazy video. That would be crazy. No, we, uh, we, we operated by something in the video we called Pirate Law, which is finders, Kievers, losers. Weepers. And so we found the island. So it's finders, losers,

weepers. Explain pirate law. Yeah, explain this. Matt Hayes Pirate law. I think it's the funniest thing. Basically, if you look up Pirate law on Google,

pirate law is the idea of finders, keepers, losers, weepers. So if I find the island, and I'm the last one to touch it, that island is now mine based on pirate law. So based on pirate law, yeah, I now own that island.

So that's the entirety of pirates. So you just gained $700,000. Yeah, my net worth just went up to $700,000. So then what happens if Mr. Bees goes back and touches the island again? That's his now. It's a constant game of back and forth. But, you know, basically, you know, long term I'd like to build a house there and, you know, maybe get some troops, some weapons over there so I can defend it against Mr. Bees.

So we'll see if that happens. Yeah. Just defend my network. Jeez. Jack, what questions do you have prepared? Plenty, but I mean, I still off the top. I got a couple. Would you say that you've maintained this level of excitement Like throughout your entire time pursuing YouTube?

I would say I've gotten more excited Yeah, I mean I think like building a fan base and like having them like have my back in such a strong way Like whatever like I want to do with YouTube like they're so behind me And that like makes me more Excited to make videos like for that group of people you know Like that I feel like I only get more excited to make videos That makes sense but I can only imagine like risking it all There had to have been times during YouTube career

where you've risked so much, but it didn't pan out exactly how you've... Oh my gosh. Yeah. And I'm sure those times are extremely frustrating. And what's like the whole mental damage, like the thought process when something like that occurs? Or could you give an example of...

Yeah, there's definitely mental damage. Like, we were trying to get ahead of, like, a week ahead on upload schedule. And we, everyone wanted us to go sneak... I haven't said this anywhere, but everyone wanted us to go sneak into the NBA bubble. And we like squeeze last-minute flights to Florida. We had to move to L.A. the next week.

But we're like, okay, we're going to get a week. get a week ahead on the schedule. We're going to go sneak into the NBA bubble. And we like do all this crazy stuff. Go down to Florida. Find the NBA bubble. Locate everything. And then we decide like this is not a good idea.

It's not a smart thing to do. Like we, in that moment we get there and we realize like this is the NBA. This is a real thing. This is like a real health pandemic danger. Right. And it's just not a smart thing to do. And so we turn around and go back home. But you did all of the planning.

But we did all this planning, all this investing. spend thousands of dollars. It took you that long to realize it was a bad idea. Did no one tell you before? I'm like, hey, maybe you shouldn't do it. No, people did, but people tell me that about a lot of the ideas. And sometimes we, you know, usually it ends up going pretty well. But that's the problem with YouTube is that you're constantly chasing that next

opening high. Yeah. And that's why, like, after that video especially, like, surrounding myself with people who are looking out for me in my best interest and, like, will tell me no when something's too far because I want it so bad. And I'm like, so excited about YouTube. that sometimes my vision gets a little bit clouded. And I think it's really important to surround yourself

with people who will kind of like... You know what you need? You need a billboard. A billboard. Yeah, you got to do some crazy billboard or something. Like, you know what Steveo did? He taped himself on the set of... Kind of do something crazy like that.

Now, I think you need mainstream attention. Maybe you got to get on the news somehow. That's good. Getting on TV or like getting on a live news podcast. Something like that, I think would be... I think it needs to be mainstream at this point. That's the next step. Yeah, that's a good point

The Cyberchuk one The cyberchuk was a good mainstream one I've gone so YouTube Because I feel like Like really YouTube stuff Does well on YouTube And it's harder to make

mainstream stuff go big But It's definitely Something with TikTokers That's good That would be another one We're on the right page Yeah

I don't do anything with TikTokers really Okay That probably needs to change Probably Graham and I are trying to Gram is he's made a TikTok Technically I made a TikTok

Right now, Graham's got like 25,000 followers. Is that right? Is that right? 39, 40,000 followers, yeah. Yeah. That's crazy. I feel like, uh, you know who's slaying, uh, freaking TikTok with finance stuff is freaking our boy Gary Vee.

Is he really? Yeah, he's doing very well on TikTok. Oh, okay. But he has these, oh, wait, crap. We said, but he has these motivational clips. He's got these motivational clips, though, where he could get you fired up in 60 seconds. Correct. You know.

Yeah. Yours are a little bit longer payoff. Right. I can't seem to get into it, though. That's my thing. It's just, I don't like it. So I do it because I know I should be making TikToks, but I don't like it. Yeah.

Yes, maybe one day. I'm sure like three years from now I look back at this and be like, like, I wish I didn't say that. Right now I don't like. Maybe in the future I will. I feel like you should maybe look into a, like I have a guy who's editing TikToks for me. And it's like a laborous task to put those TikToks down. If you can find somebody who can just edit them down for you and your voice, like your voice over or something like that. Oh yeah.

You know what? Pulling a prank on like someone from the hype house or something. Or like a mainstream celebrity. You should parachute out of an airplane and land on that famous deck that they have. Oh, the Hypat house deck. They probably, they probably down. I guess they wouldn't have to ask them. I would just do it, right?

Yeah. It would be a good way. I've been trying to find a way to integrate getting my skydiving license into a video and I can't think of anything. That's actually, it could be a good one. What's the twist though, you know? Why am I skydiving into the high palace? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's for a million subscribers.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. To try to steal clout. Yeah. To make a TikTok with like. There you go. Charlie DeMeli. Maybe because I thought it would be the most, I'm like the goal is to make the most viral TikTok of all time.

So I thought skydiving into the most cloudy house. And making a TikTok bad. Just scottive into every house. You know what? Actually, this brings up the question. What comments have you gotten that you just know you can't do? Oh my gosh. That could be good videos.

Speaking of, speaking of the mainstream one, One of my favorite content One of my Oh, the White House Is actually one that Oh yeah You're thinking of the White House Everyone, that's everything

You know what the funny thing is I was thinking that But I knew it wasn't gonna have So I didn't say it I knew that was something The White House is a popular recommendation The Pentagon You just sneak into there

Yeah, exactly I think Jake Paul snuck into the White House One time and it didn't go over well So I'm not gonna I'm not trying to be like Jake Paul Right But yeah I think One of the ones I really liked

was delivering a compass to Kanye West because apparently a few years ago Kanye West decided to sue a compass company because he said that Wests are never lost and compasses are people for people who are lost. That is a real thing that happened. That's a real thing that happened. So one of the top comments was to deliver a compass

to Kanye West. I really like that idea. That's a great idea. Great idea. Yeah. Very difficult. Love the idea. You can't do that. I think I can do it.

I think I can do it. The problem is balancing ideas like that. That would take, we could do it. It would take a month to coordinate all of that. And I would have to focus all of my energy on finding Kanye West and delivering a compass. And I would have to like put everything else to the side. So we would have to get like a month ahead of content and then I would have to spend the next 30 days. I love that idea.

Yeah. Yeah. You like it? I love it. You think the thumbnail and the title is delivering a compass to Kanye West? Yes. Do you mean that joke is clear enough? I get it.

You do. Yeah. Okay. Like I didn't have to explain it to you. No. Okay. Do you joke? I've never heard of the Kanye West suing the accompanist company.

No, neither of I. But just the compass, just I'm thinking West West West. I would click on that video. Delivering a compass is West. Yeah. That's, that's it. So I just put the two and two together. That was it. Delivering a compass to Kanye West.

See, I think. I like it. I would also like you to see, do a video, uh, introducing Drake to Drake. Like Drake Bell. Oh, that is the legend. Oh, that would be pretty good. Yeah, yeah. Can I put that on my video notes right?

That's a really good idea. That is a crazy idea. Introducing Drake to Drake. Dude, that's legendary. I just have the two of them shaking hands with you in the middle. Drake Bell, I feel like, would be so down to do something. But Drake's, the other Drake seems cool. What we would have to do is get less famous Drake.

And then we would have, this is going to be like a moment we clip in the future if this happens. I wanted to happen just to subscribe to the podcast. Drake. Yeah, that's good. That's a good one, Graham. Drake Bell, I think, would do it. Yeah, 100%. I'm sure you could find somebody connected to Drake Bell.

We would have to become friends with Drake Bell to the point where he would be down to hang out with us at any given time if we had a chance of meeting actual Drake. And then we would have to be able to get him to commit. And they're going to make a collab. If you could get them to sing the theme song from Drake and Josh. Oh my gosh. That's part two. And Drake gets a rap verse in it. That's a two-part version.

That would be good. He has to add a little bit, though, on the spot. Yeah. That's crazy. What if they already know each other? Well, if we get a FaceTime between them, does that count or no? No. It has to be in person.

It's got to be in person. A little bit harder than times, but. See, I think creative topics like that. No, I love it. That's inspiring. Davies, what is it, Davies 504, 4, the bass channel? Oh, yeah. He, yeah, he plays the bass, and his videos are all, like,

playing the red hot chili peppers with a chili pepper. Yeah. Or, like, just things like that. All of his top videos were weird concepts like that that just do really well. Yeah, he's a great creative. Yeah, so if you could find concepts like that. What is the concept? I don't know who this is.

He plays the bass, but he's just kind of like a meme channel. And he just does like really, really obscure things. Like he did like a live stream one time where I think he played the base until, um, Oh, we hit a million subscribers. Flea, like noticed him. On what? Oh, yeah. Until Flea tweeted at him.

Yeah, until Flea tweeted. It's from the chili peppers. Yeah. He did one. So I think he played like Can't Stop the baseline or something from the song from Red Hot Chili Puppers until the bassist from that band, like tweeted at him or something. Just constant? Yeah. Wow.

But he's like a gnarly bassist and he does a lot of, he is great content. Really? Great content. Yeah. Really funny stuff. You're sold on this guy. Oh, he's so good. I'm a total YouTube connoisseur as well.

Are you? Absolutely. Yeah. Ever since I was. You had to watch all my videos today to catch up? Yeah. Oh. No, here's the thing, though.

Because I'm not, no, no, no. I'm just kidding. I'm not a total, like, trendy content type of guy. You've got your channels. Yeah, I got my channels. And then also, like, I go into, like, the deep, dark depths of YouTube and watch, like, some weird videos. And I, yeah, like, I don't focus so much on the creator. I just focus on the content.

Cool. Yeah. But I respect that. Yeah. Hours a day, definitely. On YouTube. Yeah, ever since I was a kid, too. Like, I had, like, my different phases.

I was, like, like, 12 watching, like, White Boy 7th Street. Yeah, yeah, yeah, commenting or like, yeah. Yeah, like here, playing can't stop until he can't stop. Yeah. Or playing can't stop, but I can't stop. And he does the top comments too. So he takes whatever the top comment is. And does it?

And does it. And he just keeps playing it. Over and how long is this video? That is an hour eight. Oh my gosh. I'm just playing the same like over and over and over again. Concepts like that. I like it.

Wacky things that you could just nail out on your own. Mainstream. Media. Mainstream media. Creative mainstream media. Kanye West would be perfect for that. Kanye West is a good one. Drake to Drake is a phenomenal idea.

Thanks. I love that idea. Who else? Who else? What other celebrities are there? Besides Drake and Kanye. Go for like the big ones. Go for like Oprah.

Oh my gosh, dude. Reintroduce Josh and Oprah. Yeah. Oh my gosh. Get them to have a reunion. If you guys ever watch Nathan for your, you. Yes, I love Nathan.

I've seen it. All right. Legendary TV show. Okay. I spend hundreds of thousands of dollars. You need to watch this show. Yeah, and I haven't seen it. You've probably been recommended it before.

Maybe. Okay. It's about a guy. It's a Comedy Central show, but it's a real show. It's about a guy who did okay in business school who basically goes into failing businesses and brings in new business ideas in order to increase business. But they're the stupidest ideas you ever heard and then they actually implement them. Nathan, like, I love that show.

and like I try to structure content kind of similar to Nathan for you. He just puts in so much effort and you see the effort he puts in in order to make this stupid idea come to real life. The problem, and it's like there's this balance

of like what we're doing and what he does where he spends an entire month making one episode of a show. So it's like, there is a world where we introduce Josh Peck to Oprah. Yeah.

But it's like some kind of balance of like the YouTube algorithm. YouTube is not going to like me for uploading once a month. Or maybe it will. Michael Reeves does that. Michael Reeves does it. Mark Rober does it.

They both have enormous subscribers. But I don't know if YouTube honestly promotes Michael Reeves stuff that much. I think his content is just that perfect. Yeah. That like if you know of Michael Reeves, if you're one of his subscribers and he posts, you're watching from beginning. You're sucking everything you can out of that video.

And then you're sending it to your friends too. Yes. That's one of the few people I send his videos to my friends. Yeah. But imagine, I mean, right, like Josh Peck meaning Oprah. That's a once in a month video. Maybe that's your new series. This is just introducing different people.

people, and that's the top comment is like, who do you want me to introduce next? That would like try to get in the room. That would be hilarious. That's a pretty funny scene idea. People are going to take all these ideas and make them happen. If someone's going to introduce Drake to Jake, I would be impressed.

And post that on YouTube, I would be thoroughly impressed. You got to meet Elon Musk. Yeah, that would be a big one. That's the goal. That could be a 10 million. I only went to college for a year because I wanted to be the next Elon Musk. So I went to school for engineering,

even though I had a 2.6 GPA in high school. and I was like, I'm going to force fit myself into being an engineer because I want to be the next Elon. Yeah. And it didn't work out so well for me. Sneaking into the new Tesla Gigafactory. That would be huge. That's nice. That's nice, boys.

Yeah. We can maybe do that. Maybe I snuck into the Gigafactory and stole a Model Y or a roadster. Yeah. I don't know. See, some of these unions end up in criminal territory, though, you know? Yeah. There's a lot.

balancing on between a felony and, like, good. You go from misdemeanor to felony so fast. You go from misdemeanor sneaking in to like very legitimate felony when you start stealing cars. Right. Yeah. Grand Theft Auto. Yeah. I stole J.

Letters. McLarenty won. And crashed it. Gosh. Yeah. So you got to be careful with that balance. But yeah, Elon Musk, I think it would be a great person. Legend.

Have you ever met him? No. I would freak. I would freak out if I saw him. Is he like, is he like, like the guy? Yes. He's the guy. He's a legend.

Yeah. Yeah. There's no one I think I'd rather meet more right now than Elon Musk. Did you read his biography about him? Mm-mm. Super, super interesting. I'm sure you probably know everything in the book anyway, but I read it when I was like 18 and I thought that's what convinced me to be the next Elon Musk.

Really? Very interesting human being, as you guys know. Yeah. Yeah. I'd love to meet him too. Gosh. What else do we have on the, because we're approaching an hour and a half. We probably should.

I really like this house, dude. Thank you. Like the roof and the way. Thanks. I'll show you the film studio. Oh, I have to see it. You got to see it. The infamous room.

Okay, yeah, we have another segment. It's somewhat similar, not similar. Cool. Not similar at all. I love it. Not similar at all. Close enough. There was one video that I fell in love with out of all your videos.

It was the one that, the shirt that you're wearing actually right now. Oh, yeah. We made, like Pablo's pizza or something like that. So, yeah, you may. So what you did, if I'm getting this right, is you got a bunch of like Dejorno pizzas. Yeah. Not the best pizza. And then you created your own Uber Eats restaurant.

Correct. And then you hired Uber drivers to come and then take your Dejorno pizza. Yeah. To people that ordered regular pizzas. Pablo's pizza. Sweet Pablo's. Correct. It's a real thing.

Was it profitable? No. I lost money in that video in a big way. No. How'd you lose money, man? Well, I only, I only served like five people. The problem with that is that you like have to pay for promotion on Uber Eats. Yeah.

Or else you don't get orders. Oh, right. So I only sold like five pizzas. And then I, and also I don't want to be selling like 20 de jornos pizzas. Like I felt bad. I was sending the pizzas back with money. Like, like, $20. Okay, because I was wondering like, there's no way someone's going to be happy when they buy a $20 pizza and then it's a Dijorno.

Or it's bagel bites. Like I was setting out bagel bites. I was just sending out like bad pizza. So I would send in the pizza. And I would send them money to make up for it. So there was no way I would be profitable. Did you get any reviews? Everyone asks that.

I got shut down before I think I got to see the reviews. I thought you closed the store yourself. I closed the store because I started, it started, they started sending me paperwork asking me to shut the store down. Oh, okay. Yeah. So I had to shut the store down after a few days. So I think I was getting some pretty negative reviews. I just didn't know where to find them.

Yeah. But yeah, that was a really, that took about a month to film that video. It was so stressful. I was waking up at like 2 o'clock in the morning. Because that's the only time that people would be ordering for me because every other company would show it before me outside of that. But I was the only one open 24 hours. So that was like middle of the night was like prime time for me to deliver pizzas. That's funny.

Yeah, but we definitely operated that business and deficit. So that's hilarious. We got a secret part two coming to Sweet Pablo's here pretty shortly. Wow. Can't tell you a lot about it. But it's going to be it's going to be sweet Pablo's literally much bigger than it ever was. I'm excited. That'll be a good one in the next one.

Cool. We got to order that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We'll be a customer. I'll bring you guys to the, it'll be a physical location.

Okay. Oh, wow. That's what I'm going to say. That's exciting. It's like Nathan Fielder. Nathan for you. That's it. Cool.

Let's do it. I mean, honestly, like we don't have any. Do that one idea, Jack, that we were thinking about. Oh, yeah, yeah. Okay.

All right. So you had a video where you called a bunch of like random YouTubers. Yes. Who in your contacts right now are you comfortable enough to call and put on the line. A YouTuber?

Yeah, or anybody. Like the most famous person of my contacts. Yeah. If you feel comfortable calling. Yeah, obviously, don't do it if you're feeling weird about it. If it's going to make you look bad, don't do it. Well, listen, we can try to call anybody, right? We can try to call David Dobrick. We could try to call Drake.

I'm not joking at all. Like Drake, Drake, Drake. Wait, you have his number? I do have his number. How? How? How? I can't tell you guys.

Can you say it off the podcast? I can tell you guys off the podcast, but I can't tell you on the podcast. But you can't tell us how you got the number? No. You have a guy. You have a guy. I have a guy. I have Charlie DeMilio.

Do you want to call her real quick? I could call some people that will answer and I can call just like the most famous person. They probably won't. Why don't we do like one of each? Let's call Charlie DeMilio and see what happens. All right, let's see. If she picks up, then we know what we got the title and thumbnail. Hey, it's Charlie.

Sorry, can't get to the phone right now. I'll call you back as soon as I can. Thanks, bye. Okay, no. It was instant instant voicemail from old child. Did she think she

blocked you? It's possible. I think it would say disconnected if she blocked you. What about Drake? Yeah, Drake will probably not answer, but I can definitely give the guy. Have you called him before?

I have. Did he answer? He did not, but the guy who gave me the number sent me some voice memos from him, so I know that this is his real number. What would you say if you,

are you not nervous? I just, I'm nervous for you. I would probably have some fun with it. He would like, hey man, love the last album. Maybe try to

Why I ever had such a good song? Why not tell him That like hey I got this idea for a video I want you to meet trick Brick bell Yeah He'll be

That's a good idea We can pitch him the idea Say that you'll promote his like Next album or something In the video Don't wait dude I'll get you 10,000 more subscribers I would love to promote your album

Let's see if we can't pitch him on the idea It's late in Toronto time now Oh The wireless customer He changed the number That's about a three month old number Wow How fast do you think celebrities change their number?

I don't know. Do you want to try to call anybody else? Dopec would probably be... I mean, who do you feel comfortable calling? I'm trying to think if I know anybody like that I would like feel like super good about calling. Who's the most famous YouTuber that I'm like really good friends with? It's something else here now. Something new.

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I could call Tanner you guys know Tanner I do yeah call Tanner we'll call Tanner Fox what should we say to him just like what up call Tanner you went FaceTiming Dude, Jake Paul is not going to answer me. I mean, I can call crazy people, but there's just...

Who's crazy? Who's crazy? Who else is crazy on here? Billy Islea? Oh, yeah. Oh, shoot. The silly Islish. Let's see if her...

How do you get these numbers? I can't tell you guys. Tell us off the road. I'll tell you off record. I'll tell you off record. Let's see if she changed her numbers since last time. What do we tell? What are we trying to do with Billy?

You've got to figure it. I don't know. I'm gonna say there's Uber Eats order is here. Your call has been forwarded to an automated voice message. Immediately declined. Yeah, but she's there clicking off that call. Yeah. She got her attention for one tenth of a second.

You got her text to be like, hey, you got a FaceTime the A. I'm gonna copy paste whatever my last Uber Eats delivery person just told me and see if she replies back to that. Wouldn't she think it's someone just pranking her though? Maybe. Maybe not. What if she comes outside? Oh my God. Why would you want it?

I mean, we would have a great time here, right? If we got her on the line. Why not? Why not just say, like, we're on a podcast. I don't know. She might just be willing to be right out of her kindness of her heart. I don't know. I don't know.

Billy, Billy's a busy girl. You got to, you got to just trick them, you know? I'm just, this is such a weird feeling. It's like exhilarating at the same time as like uncomfortable. Isn't it nice? It's a little bit of a high. Yeah, we've got to call more people.

This is your Uber eats delivery. I'm outside. Send. I feel like this is a... Oh, it's definitely delivered. I mean, it's definitely her number. So, good stuff. We'll see if she texts back.

How does it make you feel? I don't know. I didn't think we'd get this from. I didn't expect Billy Eilish. I mean, I was expecting most likely Logan Paul. Yeah. I didn't Yeah, I didn't know Charlie DeMelio

Charlie DeMilio Yeah You know about her though Yeah, I do Um I mean We just got to ask the last question And then we sign off

Would you rather fight One horse-sized duck Or 100 duck-sized horses? Oh my gosh What is the right answer To this question? Oh man I think I would rather

Fight Horse-sized duck, dude that thing can kill you that thing will kill you I think 100 ducks because I think I could outrun them we gotta find a new quote everyone says 100

no no no we've had like three people that say the other horse-sized duck think about how strong its beak is right it would snap your head off yeah exactly

that's what I said it would be very fast right it would kill you so fast because there's a video that you did that I did okay we got a we got a wet

dollar bill okay you did a video where you said that you're the The best thumb wrestler. Oh, I'm the best. I'm the best thumb wrestler on Planet Earth. Okay, well, if you can beat me, yeah.

I'll give you $20. Okay, that's an easy 20 bucks. I'll give you this. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Do you think that you're good at thumb wrestling? Or is this just something you picked up on? I'm not good at all, actually. He just wants to give you money.

Thumb War wrestling is 1, 2, 3, 4, I declare a thumb war. There's no snake holes in this game. This is a clean fight. Snake hole. Snake hole is like the little game where you kind of go down here and like people try to, There's none of that. All right.

You feel me? Are we in the same page? Not a lot of rules. Dude, I'm not gonna, yeah. What I'm gonna do is I'm gonna put my thumb over your thumb and I'm gonna pin you. Oh, I like the confidence. I like the confidence.

Not gonna happen. I like the confidence though. All right, let's go. Yeah. One, two, three, four. I declare a thumb more, five, six, seven, eight. This will be a piece of cake. Here's what I will give you.

We have very similar hands. Look at our thumbs. They're very similar. Regardless, I will take you down, though. You got a table. Oh yeah, you guys are, you're done,

dude. What do you mean I'm done? You've already exposed yourself. It's just a matter of, you have to be on a table because you're gonna like, you're gonna go in like, oh yeah,

you're about, I got slimy fingers, man. You're like almost done pretty much. Yeah, I'll let you. Oh, all right,

you got me. This is what you subscribe for, guys. That's it. $20. Why is it wet? It's a coaster. Oh, sure, sure.

Yeah. Do I really get to keep this? Yeah. All right. Easy. We'll want to be able to move with the stores. Literally reinvest it. Go straight to a like a store and get yourself something nice.

Okay, I'll do that. All right. We should, yeah, I think we're good. So with that said, you guys, thank you so much for watching. I'll link all of your information down below in the description. Everyone watching at this point should subscribe. Thank you. We're getting closer to a million.

Your information will be down below in the description. Make sure to get your free stock down below in the description too. It's worth at minimum $8. Have you signed up for Weebel yet? going to after this. You better. Okay. Oh,

and we got hats for you too. Is that right? Yeah, we got two hats. Oh, you want shirts. Yeah, we got shirts too. We want it all. We got it all.

So with that said, you guys, thank you so much for watching. And until next time. Until next time. Peace. So 17th ever episode. Oh, shoot. I need it,

however much money we've made. What? Because we, every single episode of the podcast, we say how much, because it's a finance podcast, we say how much the podcast has made. Oh, cool.

I'm excited to hear that number. It's $4,069. Wait, I'm going to say that? Yeah, or I mean, I can say it doesn't matter. Okay. It's up to you. Does the guests normally intro it? No, like on occasion.

I'm definitely down to intro it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, go for the money. Okay. All right, go for it. Okay. Welcome. Wait. Hey, everyone.

This is going to be my options update. I am editing the video right now, and I didn't include my current status in the video. So I'm like nine for nine and I have some open contracts right now that I'm down on but I'm hoping that by the time the contracts expire that I will be in the green but I will keep you in the loop. Yep.