The Iced Coffee Hour - Reacting To LAHWF And His Finances | Ep.6

Episode Date: June 29, 2020

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Starting point is 00:00:32 My name is Graham. We got Andrew Hales joining us and we got Jack. So in this episode, we're going to be talking about a whole bunch of things. You're going to be talking about YouTube pranks. We're going to be going to be going to be talking about. What else are we going to be talking about? Credit card debt. Credit card debt, that's a big one, making money in general on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:00:50 Pranks on YouTube. Pranks on YouTube. The famous people you've met, some of the stuff that you've learned along the way. And what else am I missing? Yeah, the credit card thing is going to be a little embarrassing, but, you know, it is what it is, you know. So, well, it's a good episode today, so stay tuned. It's a vulnerable episode. Let's, let's begin.
Starting point is 00:01:12 Glasses. Cool, starting exactly at six. Here we go. Nice. Done. Perfect. And, uh, cool. Done.
Starting point is 00:01:23 Have you an intro, it? Or you want to, um, go ahead and intro it and just say, hey, we're here with that, Andrew And this is the main camera and this aside. All right. Right. Okay. Cool. So welcome back to the iced coffee hour.
Starting point is 00:01:36 My name is Graham. This is Jack. And we got Andrew Hales, Lof. Hey, man. Channel. Lof, LHWF. Good to have you on. Now, this is like almost a reverse chatting with.
Starting point is 00:01:47 Yeah. Have you ever been chatted with before? Yeah. How was it? Yeah. I mean, I've been on a few podcasts, whatever. It's not too hard. Okay.
Starting point is 00:01:58 How do you feel about this, Jack? I'm super excited. I actually watched a ton of your videos growing up, you know, doing the pranks. And, of course, through the transition into the chatting wiss, I watched those. I think they're great. I really liked your content because I thought you were more like down to earth. Like I knew for a fact you weren't faking your stuff. And it was during a time where everyone was like faking pranks.
Starting point is 00:02:17 Faking pranks. We should really quick do an introduction. I know it's weird talking about yourself. Do you want us to talk about you for you or you want to introduce yourself a little bit? For people who are tuning in who are like, wait a second, who's, who's, who's, who's Andrew Hales? It's probably be easier if you did. Okay. He's got over two million subscribers on his main channel.
Starting point is 00:02:35 Yeah. What, like 350, 400,000 on your second? Yeah. But that one's like extinct now. I don't add to that anymore. Yeah, it's extinct. Okay. And, yeah, but you did some of the OG pranks, what I would really like to call it.
Starting point is 00:02:47 Like, in the beginning of YouTube's whole prank days, you were really one of the top pranksters. Yeah. I mean, it's, top five, right? I'd say it was like in 2012 when it was all fresh. I'd say it was like me and maybe 10 other guys were doing it. Yeah. But you had some really unique ones that I felt were really cool. Like going up and grabbing people's hand.
Starting point is 00:03:09 Yeah, that was one of our first viral ones. Yeah. Yours were totally harmless too. Yeah, I mean, I'm, you know, I'm kind of a softy. I can't really. I'm bad at confronting people. Get your phone, Graham. Man, I drive all the way down here for this.
Starting point is 00:03:26 Always got to be hustling. Yeah. Gotta make money. Here we go. Is that a client? No. No, it's not. A buddy was thinking about buying a Tesla and one of my thoughts on the Model Y.
Starting point is 00:03:36 So I said do it, but he's got to use my referral link. Model Y. Is the Model Y new? Yeah, that's a new one. So that's the in between the three and the X. The, like, the truck thing that, like, looks like a video game. Is that? The cyber truck, yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:52 Did that, like, go away? I feel like I heard about it. And then, like, I never saw it. the road anywhere. Elon wants to move forward with that. I think it's going to be a stretch to actually put that car on the road. It looks extremely unsafe. Like if you get in a car accident, you're demolishing whatever car you hit. So I think it's just about making it road safe. So it's unsafe for the other people. Right. Oh yeah. It's incredibly safe for yourself. I mean, like, have you seen any of them on the road? Yeah. No, there's not. Elon must drive
Starting point is 00:04:16 his around. But yeah, if you can't get with that. You got to bleep that out. We're a PG. Sorry. All right. channel. You could say it. We're just, we're just going to have to bleep it out. All right, cool. Yeah. But anyway, so going back to the one of the OG YouTube prankster, do you want to be known as a YouTube prankster? Like, what do you want? Yeah, I don't care. It's like whatever people
Starting point is 00:04:38 you know, say whatever I am. Be known. I don't, I don't care. I'm sure. Do you go by like YouTuber? I'm indifferent. Okay. Or like merchant. Because you know you have like here. I think just YouTuber is the most simple, you know, YouTuber is like, it is what it is. You know, I just make YouTube videos.
Starting point is 00:04:57 So when you meet someone new, you tell I'm a YouTuber? Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes, like, I'll be in that Uber and I don't want to say that because there's like a hundred. It's a conversation. Questions that, you know. How do you make money with that?
Starting point is 00:05:13 You know, 20 years later, people are still asking that. That's the number one question with YouTubers. But no, yeah, sometimes I'll just, yeah, I'm in really. estate or something. You're in real estate. And they're just like, oh, cool. Did you listen to our other podcast? Uh-uh.
Starting point is 00:05:28 You didn't. I asked Graham if he tells people that they, you know, that he's a YouTuber and he said, no, I usually just say, I'm in real estate. Seriously, that was my answer. So I thought you would see it's making fun of that yet. Or like, you know, stock trading or just something. You don't start. Or, you know, something.
Starting point is 00:05:41 I'm a microbiologist. It's true though. I don't tell people I do YouTube because then it's a whole bunch of questions. But I remember telling someone with another real estate agent who's asking like, Oh, you know, how busy are you? I'm like, you know, I haven't really been that busy because I've been focusing on my time on YouTube. They're like, oh, what's on YouTube? I make videos on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:05:59 Oh, does it make any money in that? I'm like, a little bit, a little bit of money in that. Yeah, they have no idea. Well, it's the majority of your income, right? At this point, yeah, it is. Did quarantine make it so you don't sell houses as much? It made me focus more on YouTube. I mean, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:18 Well, don't worry, we're going to be interviewing. We're going to talk to you. We're going to talk to you. No, really, for the last a year and a half, I placed my emphasis really on YouTube. It's just, there's a window of opportunity, and I figured, like, now is my chance to make the most of it. If I don't do this now, what am I going to have this chance again? So I want it to go full force. Cool.
Starting point is 00:06:38 Yeah. Yeah. years now just off YouTube. I did a little bit of postmate deliveries the last couple months. Do you ever get recognized? I feel like you just show up the sounds and they think it's a prank. They look around and they're like, you were the one delivering my postmates. I would freak out. Yeah, no, that happened a few times. They're like, oh, you're that guy from YouTube. I'm like, yeah, man, I need the camera, bro. And then he gave me a fat tip. So, but no, I, uh, what was the question? Yeah, Like the quarantine has made everything halted for a second, especially with the chattings and everyone canceled on that.
Starting point is 00:07:26 And yeah, I've just been trying to survive, you know. How has ad revenue been for you over the last few months? Has it gone down? Have you noticed a spike? Because I've noticed a spike in viewership. Like my ad rates went down, but viewership doubled. More people are going on YouTube. I think the last six months I've been losing on average about a thousand subscribers.
Starting point is 00:07:47 Mm-hmm. Wait, for months? Yeah. How? Just, I don't know, just like filtering out. Like, you know, we stopped the chatting with, and like, I started doing all these random vlogs and random videos. I loved those.
Starting point is 00:07:59 Yeah, you know, whatever. Just the quarantine kind of style going, like Andrew's going crazy. Narrative. It's hard to shift your content around. If you pivot in any sort of way, you're going to lose an audience. It takes you time to build it back up. And then by the time you build it up, you shift it again. Why not go back to pranks?
Starting point is 00:08:17 because I'm old now I just can't do it it's not in me it's like it's like forcing you to play G.I. Joe's you know it's I just can't do it what if I play it's too awkward I could try to force it and fake it for the money
Starting point is 00:08:31 but it just it sounds so pretentious but just the the passion wouldn't be there anymore you know yeah if you were to ever do another prank video would you invite Graham alone I would do it I've always I used to want to do prank videos yeah Graham would love to yeah
Starting point is 00:08:46 Graham would love to too. That's the thing. It looks really fun, but it's not that fun. Why? Why not? Yeah. Well, I guess it depends. It depends on the prank, but it's just, no, it's still work.
Starting point is 00:09:00 You know, it's still, you're still, like, stopping. You're still stopping people on the street. And you're, like, you're still kind of, yeah, you're still performing. You're still kind of, like, selling them. Well, I mean, it's the awkward part is afterward getting their permission. Like, hey, this. was all fake. Is it okay we use this footage? How many people say no? It's just taxing.
Starting point is 00:09:24 Not a lot of people, like 10%, but like still it's and also doing it in the real world is really different. I was getting older and older and still doing these pranks on college campuses where it's so much easier to do pranks because everyone's like in their bubble of education, their parents are paying and they haven't really seen the real world yet and everything's rainbows and ice cream, you know. Yeah. And so you can, and all the hot girls are there, and it's just the best place to do pranks. And when you do it in the real world, it's like everyone just thinks you're a homeless
Starting point is 00:09:58 person or something bothering them or a peddler, you know. But you don't look out of place at a college campus. If you were to college campus, you look like you belong there. Yeah, sure. But still, it's like I was getting sick of them. I just wanted to move on. And thankfully, you know, the chatting with is where, working out and I'm going to probably keep doing those for now.
Starting point is 00:10:19 Now, has there ever been a prank that you've done that you thought was like perfect? Like you're like, this is viral, but then at the last minute they said, well, I don't want myself on YouTube. Is there any footage out there? No. Well, not that I can think of. I mean, yeah, there's like pranks we've done. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:10:38 No, you're good. There's dumb pranks we've done where, you know, I'll just unlist it like a year later. and so that no one ever sees it. Why? Because why would you do that? Just because I hate it. Like it's either the audience hated it and I agree with them. We got to know an example and I want to know what you deleted.
Starting point is 00:10:54 I think there's one called like rock paper scissors prank or something that I did in 2012 and I was just going up to people and hey rock paper scissors. They're like, all right. And we'd do it and then like whatever they did, I would just. You'd beat. I would switch it. Yeah. And it just was, I don't know, it just was boring. It was boring. It wasn't funny.
Starting point is 00:11:14 And so it was like, it was an eyesore. And so that's, I'd say like every 20 videos I've unlisted them eventually. Yeah. So there's a lot that I've enlisted. I'm compiling that list and that's on Patreon. That's odd because I feel like any video you would do because you are you, people would just like, they find it funny. Well, yeah, no, that's the thing. Like the ratings are fine or whatever.
Starting point is 00:11:35 They're just like, all right, cool. Love you, Andrew. But it's always, but it's up anyways. You may as well just leave it up. Like, it's already up there. Yeah, but it's like, I feel like it just hurts the overall chain of videos. Like, if they watch that one, they're like, oh, all right, this. And then they get bored and they move on something else, you know.
Starting point is 00:11:54 Well, Graham and I have noticed is if we do delete a video, it actually throws off our algorithm. And it slows down our channel and we get way less views for the next couple of months. The algorithm is terrible. Yeah. There's so many little things I don't know. Deleting or enlisting a video is one of the worst things you could do for a channel. Oh, my gosh. Obviously, it's screwed up the algorithm for months after, like, privating, even, like, not even big videos.
Starting point is 00:12:17 That's terrible. One of the things that I've, that I've figured out are way around this. So, yeah, you see, like, hire a guy to tell me all this. I need, like, a money ball, like, Joe Hill type to tell me all this stuff, you know? One of the ways around this that I found, Jack and I actually tested this out for one of the videos, instead of deleting the video, because that's going to hurt your channel. What you do instead is you, that's the, the. cat guys. What you do instead is you go to the YouTube editor
Starting point is 00:12:44 and you edit out the entire video. You just leave the outro. So the video is still up there. But you could delete the video by removing all of its contents and then the editor saves the original version on file. So if you ever want to undelete the video, you could go and just revert it back to its
Starting point is 00:13:01 original. Even if it's like half a million views, it lets you edit it. Oh, you know what? There might be a thing where it's over a certain amount of views. I mean, we've, little V, you know, under 100, 10,000 views. Okay. It was funny. I don't know if we'll leave this in, but it's, the title is just outro.m.O.V.
Starting point is 00:13:18 Oh, yeah. So we tried to make No thumbnail. No, no. If people want to find it. If people want to find that video, they could find it. And it's like five seconds long. Yeah. It's like 20. So what's up to do you guys? But I wanted to make it as unappealing for someone to click on. Wait, so why did you delete that one?
Starting point is 00:13:33 I don't want to go into specifics, but basically we had someone on the channel who agreed and consented to be on the channel was not happy with the outcome of the call was happy with the outcome of the call but afterwards didn't like some of the comments
Starting point is 00:13:48 that were written about the situation they asked you to take it down so then afterwards yeah so stopped comments so people wouldn't know which video that was and yeah it called it outro dot MOV and then just the thumbnails just like one of the strange shots
Starting point is 00:14:03 wow I don't know that it throws the algorithm off meaning like it doesn't send Oh, yeah, let me grab that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, the cap is going for the,
Starting point is 00:14:17 going for the counter. All right, let me put this up. No worries. Oh, you know what? We get the floors first. You want some help gram? Now I'm good. You guys keep talking.
Starting point is 00:14:26 So, how are things? Well, what was I going to say? The, um, it throws off the algorithm, meaning, like, it doesn't send out new videos to your subscribers as well. It downgrades you. No, what we,
Starting point is 00:14:38 I'm guessing it's like valuable impressions. So like the amount it pushes your videos. So the algorithm is like something that determines how much they want your video to be shown to people. And if you have like a bad algorithm, that means that they don't really push your video onto viewers. So yeah, demonetized video immediately is not going to be pushed. A demonetized video is probably going to be pushed like significantly less. Or words that are like shadow banned, for example, I'll believe itself.
Starting point is 00:15:04 Right. Like for a time, you know, if you said that, you know, they would shadow ban. on it and not push your video. Yeah, you guys be really really hell with that stuff. Yeah. It's really like political. Yeah, I got to get your number and get all this info.
Starting point is 00:15:19 Yeah, we'll help you out anytime you need it. All right. Let's see. You got two channels, ones. The grant three? This is the third channel. Got it. Graham Stephan's show.
Starting point is 00:15:31 That's, uh... Sorry, guys. Yeah. Really quick, just a quick recap. Yeah. The cat goes over to the Ottoman. And then does. You know, when cats are excited, they go,
Starting point is 00:15:40 does it on the ottoman. And so I wanted to grab the spray bottle. Just maximum damage. And I just grabbed in, yeah. Is that what the spray bottle is for, discipline? Yeah. Oh, wow, it works.
Starting point is 00:15:49 Yeah, usually you just shake it and he knows. He doesn't want to get sprays. When did you get your cat? A little bit over a year ago. Oh. Yeah. So he's kind of just barely growing out of the kitten phase. Cool.
Starting point is 00:16:02 So anyway. So, yeah. So, yeah. So, yeah, so, the algorithm is forced to be recommended. Yeah. All right. How do you guys figure that stuff out? A lot of testing.
Starting point is 00:16:12 A lot of... Yeah, I spend... Studying the analytics. I spend probably at least an hour or two a day just watching analytics and seeing like which videos are getting pushed. I think it's... How long you're getting pushed for? What types of videos get pushed?
Starting point is 00:16:26 Wow. The CPMs. Like, we, Jack and I look for the first hour when a video is posted and like if it doesn't get a certain... Like a hot. Oh yeah. If it doesn't get a certain number of views in the first like five minutes, like the first minute, two minutes, I'm like, it was a title.
Starting point is 00:16:39 The title, we missed the title, we got to retitle the video. If it's later, then we know it's so. If it's later, if it's later than like 20 minutes, we know it's the thumbnail. So if you see a big spike in views and then it just immediately goes down, it's a thumbnail. How do you know that? Because why, how do you know is the thumbnail? Based off of like the changes that we've made in the past. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:57 So, oh yeah, this is, this is probably years worth of testing to go into this. I feel like you guys could write a book on all this. We flipped videos around. We had the YouTube Creator Academy. Well, it's for sale. It's called the YouTube Creator Academy down below in the description. You know what?
Starting point is 00:17:11 How about this? We'll throw $100 off. Throw $100 off down below in the description YouTube Creator Academy. There you go. You'll give me a free access to that, right? I'll give you free access. All I ask for in return is just an honest review.
Starting point is 00:17:25 Sure. That's it. If you don't like it, just be honest. If you like it, be honest. That's all. Just an honest review and it's free. Congratulations. Sweet, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:33 But yeah. There have been times where, like, we've posted videos, And they will rank it as a 10, which is like the lowest performing video of like, you know, 10 most recent videos. And we've changed the thumbnail or changed the title and brought it back up to like a five. Oh, my gosh. Oh, yeah, that's resurrecting videos. I need to read that ASAP. Wow.
Starting point is 00:17:51 Oh, there was one. Is it a bunch of videos or? It's eight hours of footage. All right. This is not, this is not planted, by the way. All right. But, uh, that really was organic. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:01 Yeah. But there are ways, there are ways to save a video that's not doing one. There was one video. This is what started it off about two years ago. I made a video on Robin Hood. And it just, the video just didn't get any views. I'm trying to figure like,
Starting point is 00:18:13 what's wrong? What's wrong with the video? I changed the title and thumbnail. I forget what it was. And just immediately you see the views just like going right back up. And it just continued growing for hours afterwards. It turned a horrible video into like a bangor. I forget what it was.
Starting point is 00:18:29 But, oh, I think it was like the problem with Robin Hood or like what you need to know about Robin Hood or something like that. And now it's like one of the most. viewed videos on Robin Hood. Yeah, a lot of... A lot of YouTubers, they push YouTube Academy stuff, you know, and I always think it's scammy, but this
Starting point is 00:18:43 doesn't sound like a scam. It sounds... This sounds fun. That sounds like you paid me to say that, but... I feel like you should just tell you not to talk about it anymore because it sounds like... I swear you did not pay... FTC disclosure.
Starting point is 00:18:57 I had no idea he had a YouTube Academy or anything. But anyway, so... So, yeah, so at some point, we could look through your channel, go through it and figure out. But anyway, yeah, let's get the... And you know what? I feel like we're at a point now where we're just talking about finance
Starting point is 00:19:09 because a lot of people watch my channel care about personal finance. They wouldn't know how much money you're making, how much are you saving, how much your expenses are. You feel comfortable telling us some of that stuff. You want to?
Starting point is 00:19:19 We can get this out if you don't want to. Sure, yeah. Okay. So I think I'm about $30,000 in credit card debt right now. No. Yeah. Wait, it. No, you're kidding.
Starting point is 00:19:30 Geez, don't do that. It's funny. No, yeah. Like, I don't belong on this. your channel. Wait, are you serious? Your audience is going to crucify me. I don't know if you're saying, we got a
Starting point is 00:19:41 prankster. No, I'm being serious. Yeah, I just spent a lot last year. Remember where I used to live? Yeah. Yeah, so I saw Andrew's place. $3,500 a month. $3,700 a month.
Starting point is 00:19:52 Wow, and I was like, $3,700 for reference. I also went to Russia and Japan and Paris. Okay, yeah, so I'm sorry about laughing. I thought you were kidding. I thought you were kidding. I'm like, oh, yeah, no, it's like,
Starting point is 00:20:04 Oh, yeah, no, it's like. It's fine. Well, I've done this like a couple times in my life and I always get out of it. It's fine. It's not like I can just pump out a few more videos and I'll be fine. So let's talk about it. Let's back up for a second. How did you how did you get?
Starting point is 00:20:17 What credit cards did you get by? No, it usually starts with like owing taxes. And so then I'll throw like 20 or 30 grand on a credit card to pay off my taxes. And then with the rent last year, it was $3,700 a month. And then videos kept getting demonetize. and then, you know, just, you know, falling into partying too much, whatever, and just, you know. Okay. I mean, I take full responsibility.
Starting point is 00:20:42 Okay. Where is the debt being held on? What interest rate are you paying on that day? Oh, it's probably ridiculous. I probably have paid three or four grand in interest alone this year. Okay. So, so here's the thing, though. This is a real, like, I didn't expect any of this.
Starting point is 00:20:59 I don't know. I keep expecting, like, just kidding. Yeah. No, no. No, I'm being serious. Okay. Let's do it. So we're going to do a money makeover.
Starting point is 00:21:06 Yeah, that's why I already read the total money makeover. That's why you named the Ramsey? Yeah. Okay. Wouldn't you say just all of his savings straight to his credit? No, what I would say the best thing you could do right now. I have a good idea, actually. You give me a loan.
Starting point is 00:21:21 I'll give you a loan and then you... Out like a 3% interest. Yeah, easy. With inflation, it's free money. No, no, okay. So in all seriousness, all you need to do, this will save you a few thousand dollars. Make sure to put an ad break right here. Okay.
Starting point is 00:21:34 So we're leading up to this. Sure. Let's save you a few thousand dollars. You want to do a balance transfer to a 0% and what what's happened. I've already done those. No, I mean, like I've tried to do that, but my credit's not good enough. What's your credit score? I think it's like 500, 600 now.
Starting point is 00:21:53 Whoa. Because did you miss payments? That's not from running up. Just random shit. Yeah, I got a car. Now I'm paying car payments. But it's not, it's not that. That's going to help you.
Starting point is 00:22:03 But that's going to help you. It's the only reason your score is the way it is. Because you're missing your payments. You've missed. Utilization. Sure. How many payments have you missed? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:22:11 Three or four. I don't know. Okay. Enough. Do you have anything in collections that you know of? You mean savings? Collections. What's collection?
Starting point is 00:22:19 Oh, no. Like a debt has been sent back. I don't think it's so late. I don't think it's gone that far. Okay. So it's not too late to say. Yeah. All I'm going to say, okay.
Starting point is 00:22:27 Do you have a co-signer? Do you have somebody? No. No. Okay. Your best bet, honestly, is you got to throw everything in the savings. everything. You mean take everything out of savings.
Starting point is 00:22:37 Whatever you have in savings, just barely enough. Because here's the thing. My thinking is that in an emergency, you could always put more money back in the credit cards. If you need to, you could spend money in credit cards, get up the debt again. That's fine. Well, I did get unemployment, and that's, that helped a lot. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:53 So I paid off a bunch with that. And so my credit rating should jump up from here. I wouldn't be concerned about your credit rating. How did you rent your place? How did they see the credit score? No, no. Well, back in December, I think it was good enough. It was like $690 or something. Okay. But I still had to put down two months of rent, and that was hard.
Starting point is 00:23:15 I don't know. A lot of things happened, too. I got my car broken into. They stole $4,000 worth of camera equipment. There's $1,000 to replace the window in my car. Did you file an insurance claim for that? It's $4,000 significant enough where you could file through insurance. A lot of times your homeowner's insurance would cover that. So something to look into. I didn't have renter's insurance at that point.
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Starting point is 00:24:08 Always get renter's insurance. You know, that's what I'm saying. We're like the least expensive things. We're like the opposite in financial... We should do a full makeover. Yeah, well, that's what is it? You just got to... I'm fine, though.
Starting point is 00:24:22 I'm just going to pump out some chatting with... This has happened before, and I just... I pay it all back and I'm fine. But, yeah, I probably won't use credit cards anymore. You know, I'm 30. It's time to grow up. you know. It's okay to use credit cards.
Starting point is 00:24:35 It's just, well, do you feel like you can't trust yourself to use your credit card? Yeah, that's the thing. I don't know, like my self-control and stuff,
Starting point is 00:24:42 you know? Then I agree with you on that. Yeah, paid off, close out the cards. I would keep one card open. Right. Do like a $3, $500 limit or whatever,
Starting point is 00:24:51 $1,000 limit on the card. Just see you have it. My dog just had surgery like two weeks ago and was $700. Yeah. So many things happened, you know. It's ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:25:01 So you mentioned you could pop out an extra video. What do each video make, like, if you do a chatting with? Well, the Patreon's been helping with the demonetized videos, which are, like, controversial videos. I can't do those. Do you think he's talking closer to Mike? Talk? No, I think I am. Oh, you're fine.
Starting point is 00:25:17 Yeah, I'm watching this. But, um, no, like, that's the thing. That's why I want to start this, uh, what's crazy is the stock trading, the, uh, the first stock trading millionaire. I talked to Umar like two years ago is like still top three earning video on my channel. Yeah. My thing is this, if you're on YouTube, you got to play to YouTube. Yeah. They, they have a specific guidelines of content you got to follow. Yeah. Yeah. And as long as you follow it, I feel like YouTube is there to reward you. But you got to follow it. So that's no, so no content that's questionable. Because you got to think, too, if you're using,
Starting point is 00:25:58 You've got this big audience. Why would you push something that maybe the audience might find offensive or be like, you know, I don't like this on YouTube. I don't come back to it. I guess it's an artistic thing, you know? You're just, you're passionate about the topic or the video, you know. I get that. But then that's not a business and that's a passion thing. And that's for Facebook.
Starting point is 00:26:19 You post those on Facebook. It's true. True. Those were for Facebook. And then you posted the business stuff. You know, the serious business talks on YouTube. Yeah. But it's like, yeah, there's a balance you have to find with, you know, expressing yourself or whatever in the business.
Starting point is 00:26:36 I think that's right. For at least you, I think that it is, you know, a balance between those things. Yeah. You just, yeah, because I don't know, I'll get miserable if I just start posting the top 10 credit cards, you know, every day. Listen, okay, I get that. You know, some of those are videos, I know, like, I got to post a top 10 credit cards this month. Yeah, we just have different. personalities or objectives or whatever.
Starting point is 00:27:00 You know what? That's the thing. There are videos on my channel. I'm not going to mention them specifically. There are some of those videos on my channel. I can't stand making at all. But people love them. They love them. So it's like every few months I'm like,
Starting point is 00:27:12 I got to pump out one of these again. And I do it. And people love it and find it helpful. It just I feel like you've done it so many times. It's kind of like me with pranks. I know if I just surprise them with a prank, they'll all like immediately like it, even if it sucks, you know?
Starting point is 00:27:25 Why don't you do one? Just how about this? No, I did. To be fair, I did try to do one. Stealing people's shopping cards, I tried to go do it like a month ago. But it was still weird because everyone had masks on. And I was like using, I was using like these plastic gloves.
Starting point is 00:27:42 And it was just, ugh. Yeah. This year's has been a little. Do one that will also have a high CPM. Do it like stealing people's shopping cards with millionaire Graham Stephan. Oh, no. And then you can. Oh.
Starting point is 00:27:58 Get us. I don't want to be in a video title, Stealing. Check it out. No, I already thought of some pranks that would have a high CPM. Okay. Starbucks and Stardus.
Starting point is 00:28:07 You know, there was like a pickup video. Like Starbucks and Stardos. What's Stardis? Like it's an alternative to Netflix and chill. Oh, Start Us? Yeah, it's stupid. But like KFC and...
Starting point is 00:28:20 You know what? Why don't you do... Cook up with me? I don't know. Nelk had a really funny prank where they would call in. But Delk had a really funny prank where they would call in. But Delke had a really funny prank where they would call in and just quit places they didn't work at.
Starting point is 00:28:30 I love those videos. Okay. Why do you do that? You can do that from home? No, I've seen that video a million times. I'm not going to do that video. Why? Just because it's like not original.
Starting point is 00:28:40 I don't know. Like you have the appeal of yourself. Like people like you as a person. I kind of, I'm indulgent with my like what I want to post a little too much. I got something. I got something for it. I thought this would actually be really interested. If we ever did a prank video, you do a challenge.
Starting point is 00:28:56 to see who could keep the person on the phone the longest. So like, let's say right now we all have to call McDonald's. Let's just say. So you can pick a random McDonald's, and whoever keeps that person on the phone the longest wins. I don't know what it is. It can be anything. But you just have to keep them on the phone.
Starting point is 00:29:13 Is it the same person we're calling? No. Okay. But you get to pick the place. Is it the same place? Yeah, same business. So we're going to do it like different days? No, but there's plenty of McDonald's.
Starting point is 00:29:23 There's plenty of McDonald's. Like, you could go and pick a McDonald's. Okay. And then I'll pick a McDonald's. And then Jack will pick a McDonald's. And then we each call of like, me, I'm calling about this. And then we time it. Andrew, you got to do a prank.
Starting point is 00:29:33 Oh, man. All right. Let's get back to the credit card deck. Okay, yeah. All right. All right. All right. All right.
Starting point is 00:29:38 Let's just attack this really cool. We'll move on to something else. So you really think if you just started doing a few videos, you can just knock it. So it's not an actual issue. No, I'm not. It's not the same as like having like a real job, you know, $60,000 a year job, you know, desk job and having that. It's like the money as an entrepreneur in YouTube and everything the money a lot of money comes in at once and a lot of money goes out well that's my fault
Starting point is 00:30:03 Out part but yeah right like you made a budget did you have you got on mint dot com and like made a budget yeah I've done stuff like that but it's You know it's the thing is I could like I get some videos Could make like $20,000 in the next couple months and and it's all taken care of you know I think it's most likely a spending problem so yeah It's not like a saving problem. So yeah, of course. I spent a lot last year. Is there spending like relatively like stable?
Starting point is 00:30:32 It's a lot less now. Or does it like or do you go through periods of time where you just start spending a lot of money? And then you know, you go into a time where you don't spend so much. And it's like that. So like last year I was starting to like on average 20 like 15, 20 grand a month, you know. Wow. Yeah. You know.
Starting point is 00:30:48 And so I was just like, oh, I can go to Japan. I can go to Paris. I'm fine. But then it just like shrunk. from 15 a month down to like 3 grand a month within a couple months and so then it was like oh Yikes
Starting point is 00:31:03 Yeah okay So now I'm like learning my lesson To like you know All you want to do Just live as though you make Three grand a month Yeah Anything after that
Starting point is 00:31:12 Just goes towards your credit card debt And savings That's it three grand a month And you'll live three grand a month Until you make it so much money Where then you could spend $4,000 I gotta start buying like assets and stuff Yeah
Starting point is 00:31:25 You own this house, right? Yeah. Yeah, it's beautiful. Thanks. You've had it for two months now? A few months. Closed on it in February. Didn't move in to the end of March and then had no furniture until this recently.
Starting point is 00:31:39 So. Very nice. But yeah, so attack the credit card debt. Yeah, no doubt. Yeah. Oh, yes. Get that taken off. What else is on the agenda for today?
Starting point is 00:31:49 What do we got? All right. All right. I think, well, a lot of people are in debt, right? Like, it's a big industry, the debt relief programs and all that. Do you think those are a scam? A lot of them take advantage of the situation. I mean, here's a thing.
Starting point is 00:32:09 You're a higher risk. If any sort of lender is out there, you have a higher chance of not paying it back than someone else with a good credit score. So they have to charge more money because the default rates of those are a lot higher. So they have to. But there's also an element of some people have it. no other place to go. So they know they could charge more money because you don't have an option.
Starting point is 00:32:30 So if you want like a payday advance or anything like that or any sort of, you have very few options. So you kind of have to take the deal. So there is an element to that that's a little sharkish, but it's just, it's also risk and they have to be compensated for the risk. Not the entire industry is not shady, but it can't take advantage of the situation. Well, no, yeah. I almost signed up for this one thing.
Starting point is 00:32:55 where they're like, yeah, just one little small payment of whatever, $200 a month, and all your debt will be cleaned up in 18 months or whatever. And it was like a bunch of lawyers, you know, I guess they just throw on the phone and they try to bargain with Chase or whatever. And that's, but then like in the fine print, I almost missed it. It was like, no, but then there's like this $75 a month thing and all this other stuff. Some of those can be good. Those are credit repair companies and some of those can be good.
Starting point is 00:33:23 and you get the right people and they send like template letters out to your creditors. They'll get items removed. They know all the ins and out. It can be worth it, but not all of them are like that. Some of them can be good though and some of them are bad. Yeah, I noticed you've been doing Weeble. Has that been good? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:41 And that's all per, that's just all commissioned. Huh. You get your two free stocks down below in the description. Very nice. It sounds like you're just plugging everything. And you got your real estate agent account. me too how is that going ah great down below in the description a hundred dollars off just like oh cool and you got your amazon affiliate yeah the link to that is down no it's just an honest question like yeah
Starting point is 00:34:03 trying to figure out what i can do you know so and the webel's reached out to me to do that too oh cool i haven't but like my audience is sick of stock trader so i'm like oh i can't i get that i get that so yeah you could always just drop that referral link in the the like the description of your stock trader videos just leave it in there right yeah i should because any current you know viewers right yeah it's a it's a seed so let's talk about a youtube when you first started prank videos do you have any sort of inspiration who is a YouTuber that led you to do that not really any YouTubers just like jacks and stuff you know you make skate videos in high school and you do stuff out and
Starting point is 00:34:55 public and we just eventually did that in 2012 and a few of them went viral um but yeah i think i learned that you could make money off youtube like off ads before the videos like in 2010 and then that's when i was like all right so there's something there and before that i was doing an italian ice pushcard business for like six months and italian ice push card business yeah what's that italian ice it's like it's like a more hard slushy you eat with a spoon and I was doing that at like events and fairs slushy yeah it's like a Italian ice you never had that oh I think you said Italianized oh sorry yeah Italian ice and I was doing that at affairs or fairs and like events and stuff and that was like a you know how old were you at that time 21 22 but then luckily you know and I was doing the
Starting point is 00:35:48 YouTube on the side and then one of them blew up and I saw like 700 bucks in my AdSense account. I was like, oh, this is way easier. And I just kept doing that. You quit immediately? Or did you wait? I think I quit after about a month from that. Because then the holding hands blew up, and that made like $30,000 in a week.
Starting point is 00:36:07 And I was like, oh, man, I got to keep doing this. 30 grand in a week? Yeah, because back then the ad sense was a lot higher. Wow. Yeah. How did you come up with that idea? Holding hands? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:19 I don't know. Just how you come up with any ideas This seemed you just thought Doing something awkward in public You know Yeah Yeah I didn't
Starting point is 00:36:28 And we didn't think it would like blow up or anything You know You just thought it would be another I remember watching that when that first came out Seriously Wow Yeah And I thought it was just funny
Starting point is 00:36:39 And it was so just like Why didn't you think It's such a simple idea Yeah yeah And it's entertaining Yeah very interesting You know To give the viewers a better like
Starting point is 00:36:47 Ideas should be like Link one of the video videos or something. Yeah, put it down below in the description. We'll put the holding hands video down. It'll be right below Weble, right below the YouTube Creator Academy. Above Amazon affiliate, though. Right. The Amazon links are the very bottom. Yeah. We'll bury those down.
Starting point is 00:37:07 I actually did a shout out in the beginning for an Amazon. Seriously? When you get like 1% of the sales. Oh, yeah. You know what's so funny. Quick, quick, you know, side tangent here? In the very beginning, before I monetized anything, the first thing I did was Amazon affiliate links. Wow. And one of the videos, I, like, recommended a few books.
Starting point is 00:37:29 And I put the book links down below in the description. And those books, you'll make maybe like five cents or ten cents per book sold. So I think maybe on a good day you make like a dollar. And someone got so upset like, Graham, I can't believe that you would be monetized. You're just a talking head to push books on Amazon. And I'm like, wow. It's like I spent like eight hours on this video. to make a dollar back maybe on a good, like on a good month.
Starting point is 00:37:53 Well, that's the thing. They can also like click other stuff and you get some sales. Back then, I think I was making maybe five bucks a month. There's something like that. I mean, it was for the amount of time I put on YouTube. Who's your favorite person on the chatting? Besides me. Yeah, besides me, obviously.
Starting point is 00:38:10 Probably the expert on narcissism. She, you know, she was just a professor from Cal State, Los Angeles, and I read her book and I was really well prepared. I think narcissism and, you know, psycho stuff and all that, you know, is all interesting in psychology. And I just thought that interview went really well. And so right now I have that as the channel trailer. What have you learned about narcissism and psychology that we might not know? Is it a big deal?
Starting point is 00:38:45 That's hard to see. Because I feel like it's very common. I feel like it's, yeah. You see a lot of people are now. Oh, yeah. Everyone is a narcissist. Yeah, you know, there's a spectrum. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:55 And, I mean, in her book, she kind of talks about how the real narcissists are like very charming and you just don't see it. And, you know, a lot of people you date maybe that you really liked could be narcissists, but that's like cliche. You know, they just broke your heart. What's the difference between narcissism and confidence? I don't remember right now. Okay. Can you take a shot? I feel like narcissism is when it probably negatively affects.
Starting point is 00:39:25 Maybe erratism. You let it negatively affect other people. It's confidence is more just like upon yourself. Narcism can put down others. Narcissism is, it's just excessive, you know. It's shameless excessive confidence, empty confidence that you can kind of just see. But most people don't see, you know. And maybe it's a selfishness.
Starting point is 00:39:46 Yeah, very selfishness. I think maybe maybe that's it's more of the selfishness. Entitlement. Yeah, very entitled. Yeah. It's a disorder apparently. Is it? Yeah, that's what she claims.
Starting point is 00:39:57 So you're born with it. You're born a narcissist. I don't remember if you're born. That is one of the questions I asked, but I don't remember what she said. I feel like narcissism is something that would be shaped by your upbringing and like your life experiences. And maybe that's a coping mechanism for something. Yeah. I don't feel like someone would be just born in it.
Starting point is 00:40:16 But maybe I just don't know anything about it. I think it could go both ways. There's probably people that are born narcissists and those people. that, you know, grow into being a narcissist. Yeah, I wish I could remember right now, but it was like something like psychopaths are born it, but narcissists are become it, you know. So I don't know.
Starting point is 00:40:32 It's interesting. I need to go watch the video again. What about people who smash the like button for the YouTube algorithm? If you guys have done that already. Let's do that. Always got to sneak that in somewhere. I got to start doing all those little things. You've got to do it.
Starting point is 00:40:50 Smash that like button. But you say it ironically Yeah Like in the vlogs Yeah Gosh I gotta just still do that though It's yeah I gotta I gotta start
Starting point is 00:41:02 I gotta start playing YouTube You know what it's like I started doing that when I saw Logan and Jake Paul Being so over the top I remember Logan Paul This is like maybe two and a half years ago Had a plate that he was holding
Starting point is 00:41:16 And he's like smash it down on the floor It's like Smash that light down to me you know, blah, blah, and I was just like, that's funny. So I started saying it in my videos, at first, it was supposed to be, like, satire. Like, make sure you guys smash that like button for the YouTube out. But people liked it. And so I just, I just, I can't, I kind of keep saying it now because now, and then it sort of, you know,
Starting point is 00:41:37 to meet as a channel. Yeah, I've been meaning to just start like an overly animated, you know, a vlog little series on the main channel. People don't think there's something wrong. You know, just like, and it would just be called. Yeah. It would be called whatever. the blog is the line influencer it would be good
Starting point is 00:41:55 but here's the thing your audience with freak out and for those that haven't watched you know I think they would love it but for those who haven't watched your taste of it you've got a very calming sort of voice monotone is just you know
Starting point is 00:42:05 but you keep in all the parts of the video like I've seen your vlogs where you'll basically just sit there for like 30 seconds not saying anything you'll sit there and you'll smack your mouth and you're just like they might my blog audience has a lot of patience yeah but you don't edit anything out
Starting point is 00:42:20 it'll just be like sharing story and just like for like a minute and it's like an incit 50,000 yeah so but I feel like
Starting point is 00:42:30 if you did anything different than that your audience with it what's wrong is you do something something out with it well no no they would know
Starting point is 00:42:37 if I did this animated they would immediately know I'm like joking but I think that would be really funny to do that though okay I got to get to that
Starting point is 00:42:44 animated Andrew new channel no just new playlist you don't have to just start a new channel You know, I've learned that lesson. I don't know. Do you think that you're, you focus more in the future or on the now?
Starting point is 00:43:01 Probably the now, yeah. Like, yeah, no, I definitely, I think if I focus more on the future, I wouldn't have my credit card debt, you know? The marshmallow thing. That's fair. The kids with the marshmallow thing, you know? Do you, do you have like a five-year plan or a three-year plan? Not really.
Starting point is 00:43:20 I have a, like, a six-month plan. But I eventually want to make films and make enough money to make films and produce. Yeah, screenwriting, producing, directing. But you need money, a lot of money for all that type of stuff. But, um. Why not do that on YouTube? Dude, I thought the video Lof was so good. I love it.
Starting point is 00:43:39 I haven't even seen Fight Club, but I've probably seen that video three times. Oh, wow. Sometimes I cringe at it because it's like kind of like sappy and cheesy. It's good. Thanks. I like it. I really do. How old are you?
Starting point is 00:43:51 21. Okay. Why? What would you have said about? I don't know. I just, like, I made Laugh when I was 19. And it's just, as I've grown older, it's like it becomes, like, I kind of see it for what it is. It's just a little extreme, you know, the author was depressed, obviously, you know.
Starting point is 00:44:13 The movie's just a little hyped up. And I just, I don't want people to think I'm obsessed with that movie. I kind of thought you were. No, I'm really not. I just. I've never seen fights. Club? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:23 Oh, you haven't seen Fight Club. It's great movie. Yeah. It's out there. It's a good film. First time I saw it was done. I would say it's like top 20, but not top ten.
Starting point is 00:44:31 I got an idea from the video and you know, that, I mean, you probably like it a lot. Loth is, it's, uh. Well, yeah, that's like that was an impulse, like one night I just made Lough and then it just became, it kind of just grew into this thing. What is it? It's, uh. Losing All Hope was Freedom. Yeah, that's what Lofs is. Oh, I had no idea.
Starting point is 00:44:48 This is a quote from the movie, yeah. I always thought it was a take on laugh. Yeah. Like, yeah. could laugh. You laugh. Yeah. So that's the more commercial brand-friendly version. Okay. All right. I didn't know that.
Starting point is 00:45:01 But so, I don't know. But it's honestly kind of a terrible channel name. No one can pronounce it. I don't know how to spell it. No one can spell it. Yeah. Half the time, I spell it the wrong way, but then YouTube will correct me. And it knows. It knows enough people in the spell that you. Honestly, like, awkward, Andrew.
Starting point is 00:45:17 Something easy to remember. So good. If I, from the beginning, I wonder if, like, how many more views are subs or anything. If I simply just named everything awkward Andrew, you could have double. Right. Yeah. So that's, yeah. But then again, it may not fit
Starting point is 00:45:32 like a quirky, like weird, it doesn't make any sense vibe. But people will fit it to whatever narrative they want. Like a lot of people have asked me about their channel names and my advice is always, if people can't easily spell it, then don't name your channel that. Right. They got to be able to because really you have to appeal to someone
Starting point is 00:45:48 who's never heard of it. You say, what's your channel? Awkward Andrew. You know about that. It's easy to remember. And you can spell it. Yeah. I just always think the W. L.A. L.A.W.
Starting point is 00:45:59 L.F. L. L.A. You know, like just a terrible business move. A lot of young children would watch. Yeah. It just sounds kind of.
Starting point is 00:46:08 Right. Awkward Andrew. That sounds Mickey Mouse. Yeah. Sounds like blues clues. It's never too late. You can change. I'm not going to change it.
Starting point is 00:46:16 I almost changed everything to chatting with, which is easy to remember and spell. I don't like that. I like something with. your name in it because I think your name is your brand and it's easier because chatting with then you corner yourself into just chatting withs and I think a little bit yeah you should be on brand yourself you've already yeah so yeah just stick with loft screw it you know all right no it's too late I can't change now I don't think I don't think everyone would be pissed like I was
Starting point is 00:46:45 always here when it was love you know but but I can always see I can already the more comments something gets the better boosted for the algorithm so if Everyone's like, I was here. Who would? Or like, like, like this comment. If you were here before, you know, upward, Andrew. I think people like to know that you're still like somewhat the same, you know? Even though you don't do the prank videos at all, they like to know. Like, if you completely change to only chatting with, it would be a little weird to your audience, you know?
Starting point is 00:47:10 That was one of the things actually when first meeting you, because I've seen your videos and you were the exact same person. Yeah, I try to be. The first time was crazy. Yeah. Have you met other YouTubers and they weren't the exact same person? I actually don't know. That's it. I don't think I've met anybody.
Starting point is 00:47:25 Yeah. Don't name drop, but yeah. When I'm not you, you were pretty much the same person. A lot more calm, though. I mean, this is really more what I'm like. Not like, what's up you guys? Yeah. What's up you?
Starting point is 00:47:38 Now I want to go home and just do that. Yeah. Just the influencer. Yeah. Yeah, well, I guess it's too. I don't think I've ever met anybody. There were certainly people I've met where, you know, what they've shown on,
Starting point is 00:47:52 line is not exactly who they are, but, um... But, um... Everyone has to exaggerate a little bit. Right, but, um... No, I guess you're right. Well, I, I thought a lot of what you would do is just a little more like acting for YouTube, you know, and just, just the mannerisms and just, it, for some of the prank videos.
Starting point is 00:48:11 Yeah, yeah. And it's, it's you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, a lot of people, a lot of people think, like, I'm, they, yeah, they, they wonder if I'm, like, really awkward in my life. And I always say, like, it's, like, it's, like, it's, like, like, it's, like, 50-50. I don't think that you're awkward. Thanks. I think that
Starting point is 00:48:26 like, I think that people are only awkward if they think that they're awkward. For example, I rarely ever experience awkwardness. Like in a typical awkward scenario, I just feel normal. I'm okay sitting with someone in silence. Look at Mr. Fancy Pants over here. No, no, no. Wow. No, I'm not. No, I'm just saying. We have
Starting point is 00:48:44 the narcissist. No, I'm just saying. Or an extrovert. I think most extroverts have never experienced like awkwardness. Like my mom, Danny Duncan, to name a few or I've never I've never I've never I've never felt awkward around them because they're extroverts and they just they're just not in their brain at all like they don't they just don't know what that experience is you should take a personality test no yeah I have a ISFP do you know what you are um I think I or is that where you're talking there's like five different personality types yeah and
Starting point is 00:49:15 surprisingly I was an introvert and I always thought but it was barely like it was barely yeah I mean it's it's it's like a scale. Have you taken one gram? You know what you are? I had to look it up. I did it. I did it for a video. So you don't really care about it. I did it for a video.
Starting point is 00:49:34 It's not hard science for sure. Were there any prank videos that you did and you looked back on it? We've already answered this and you thought it was too cringy to where you had to delete it. Yeah, no, a dozen, a couple dozen. I remember you were on an interview show or something and you said that you did one on your face to peeing or something like that you uh peed your pants
Starting point is 00:49:55 oh yeah yeah that was on an interview show how did that go or it was like the the youtube oh q and a thing yeah all right yeah we had like a device up in oregon we were trying to do peeing my pants in front of people and it was it was too awkward it was people were like are you okay and like treating you know treating me like like my guy's special ed or something something. That, like, coupled with your personality? Like, it was just, it wasn't, it wasn't, it just wasn't funny. It wasn't, it was just too real, you know.
Starting point is 00:50:30 So, yeah, they just thought I was, there's something wrong with me, you know, and it wasn't, it didn't feel like a prank anymore, you know. I get that. So we just scrapped the whole thing. That makes sense. I don't think, I don't think you could find that footage anywhere. I don't even think we'd put it on the computer. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:46 So, you got to try things and. Yeah, of course. Yeah. You never would have known to the hand holding thing would have been such a hit. I mean, people would hear that idea. Yeah, it's kind of lame. Do something else. Yeah, no.
Starting point is 00:50:56 I mean, I don't even think that video is that funny, but people like it. So whatever. Do you think that because of all of your prank videos, your condition to feel less awkward now? Yeah, I think it's helped me build a degree of... Like a thicker skin. Yeah. Probably.
Starting point is 00:51:17 Yeah. Are there any prank videos that you did that just... stick out to be like the worst like skin crawling yeah there's one like um hitting on moms or something what happened almost picking up older women i was like going up to the like old ladies in walmart and like hey you so you want to hang out later and that was like the hardest one to do that's why it's just cringy i don't know like yeah he's like they'd all be really nice they were they were they were all nice, but it's still like, I was like this young kid, I don't know. It's just, if you watch the video, it's pretty cringy. Yeah. I mean, what you're doing essentially is causing people to be
Starting point is 00:51:59 uncomfortable for entertainment. And it's like, it's not a, it's, you know, it's definitely a cynical view of it, you know. Yeah, but don't you think that sometimes people will find it funny? Yeah. Like, you know, they got, they got pranked. They, they had something unusual happen. They're going to remember it. Yeah. I think there's an element to it where it's like you made their dance like huh, that was really funny. Yeah, definitely. Like back in 2012 and 13 it was so fresh people weren't everyone on YouTube wasn't doing it then and then everyone started doing it. And so everyone when I did it later on everyone's oh, it was just one of those videos and blah blah and then it was just kind of cringy. But you know what's been amazing is I think we'll talk about
Starting point is 00:52:41 Danny Duncan for a second but he has like and milk. I think Nelk and Danny Duncan but Danny Duncan But Danny Duncan never really did pranks. No. Not really, but he's remained like just done the same content and got better at it over time. Yeah. And people don't get tired of it. Like, I watch all of his videos and they're still just as good as they were years ago. Danny's been really smart, you know, with hiring editors and just positioning himself, especially with his merch.
Starting point is 00:53:11 And I'm really proud of him. And yeah, his video, I don't even watch his videos that much. but we're still good friends. For those of you guys who don't know, Danny is a YouTuber. He's got like 4.3 million. Maybe 4.5 million subs about. And he just does like, you know,
Starting point is 00:53:26 18 minute, 20 minute videos, right? Where he just kind of just, it's crazy. But it's something, sometimes it's about nothing. It's just him going about his day. And it's kind of like, his days are very exciting. Yeah, it's kind of like Vivalabamish. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:39 Yeah. So. And they like his personality a lot. Right. He has like a cult like fall. Yeah, he's very bubbly. He's very extroverted. You know, he kind of can just friend anyone, you know.
Starting point is 00:53:51 So. Yeah, same with Nelk. If they're content, they stopped doing as many pranks. They still do them every now and then, but just entertaining videos. They delivered a kid, a truck for a 16th, but just random stuff. The giveaways. It's interesting. Yeah, those are.
Starting point is 00:54:07 Mr. Beast, man. He's been killing it. I've seen a lot of people now doing like the last to, you know, leave their hand on the truck, you know. Yeah. It's the trot. People are buying their way into YouTube fame. I'm thinking about doing this. Did you see Mr. Beast's new app?
Starting point is 00:54:22 No. Okay. Genius. Absolutely genius. Okay. So he posted on Instagram. Absolutely. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:54:30 I was going to say that, but I just said. Punch. I should have gone. Yeah. It's absolutely gene. Anyway. So, oh, you know what? I'll pull it up here so you guys can see it.
Starting point is 00:54:39 So you posted this on Instagram. And what it is, it's called the finger on the app. So all you got to do, is keep your finger on the app. That's it, like that. And then every, like, 30 seconds or so, like a little bubble will come up and you'll have to move your thumb over to the bubble.
Starting point is 00:54:56 And, like, right there. And the last one to leave their thumb, or to have their thumb on the app, wins up to $25,000. Wow. And it's going live. You're playing against someone right now. No.
Starting point is 00:55:09 Right now this is practice mode. But on Tuesday, at 12 p.m., Pacific Standard Time, this goes live. and probably hundreds of thousands, maybe even millions of people will be on this app putting their thumb on the app like this. Did not know that?
Starting point is 00:55:23 And the last one. But it keeps going. So I practice this for a few minutes. And I got to say like your thumb kind of hurts after a while. It's weird to say, but like keeping your thumb pressed down on the phone. Oh, so you can't lift up and switch fingers?
Starting point is 00:55:38 No. Wait, wait, I know, but it says a penny to 25,000. Why doesn't it just say 25,000? Yes, because people who lose can determine how much money the winner gets. So there'll be a sliding scale and you can choose either a penny or $25,000. And wherever the average is,
Starting point is 00:55:53 is how much you can win. Is this a plug? No. Did he pay you to say this? No, I wish. I don't understand that. You choose how much the winner. Oh.
Starting point is 00:56:01 Yeah. So if I lose right now, it's going to pick $25,000, hopefully. Or a penny. It's going to be one or the other. And it's probably going to be somewhere in the middle. But I thought this would be really fun to do a YouTube video for the Graham Steffin Show
Starting point is 00:56:10 and just see how long it can last on it. Oh, I should do that too. Dude, I would love to play that. Yeah, we should all do it. That's an easy. No, we're not going to do that. So here's another, so. We're all here four hours later.
Starting point is 00:56:24 So, but here's another thing, too, is that if you play, it sounds like a plug. It's not, if you play with two other players and you all have Bluetooth enabled, you can get up to three extra lives. So you could take your, you know, thumb off the app. And switch fingers. And switch fingers or something like that. You mean. Yeah, because there's like that little three live thing, extra lives. You could do that.
Starting point is 00:56:44 But I don't know how long we'd be here for. It's Tuesday at 12, which I think is a horrible time to do it. Man. Because it's like it's in the middle of the day. Yeah, Mr. Bees is... Trying to think if I have anything going on Wednesday morning. He's a legend. Stay up all night.
Starting point is 00:56:58 I know. The thing is, I don't know how long... I bet, like, the thing to move your thumbs around is going to be harder over time. And, like, they're going to try to get people out after a while. Man. Because I'm thinking, like, if you know... Well, like, imagine how much... So as you're doing that right now, there's about 100,000 people also doing that.
Starting point is 00:57:14 Practicing. Probably, yeah. I'm thinking, like, what if this is, like, a liability issue? Because what if someone's, like, driving or what if someone's, like, exhausted because they stayed up all night? No, that's common sense. But you can do that anytime. No, you obviously sign a disclaimer in the beginning of the app, probably. I don't know. He probably has people sign a disclaimer or whatever.
Starting point is 00:57:34 You wouldn't do anything. Yeah. But so I tried to figure out ways where you could, like, move your thumb around or something like that or, like, switch off. Like, you start with two fingers. Does it work? No. I've tried so many ways to try to game this app. Starting with two fingers or putting your fingers together and then like spreading them apart.
Starting point is 00:57:51 And then like, no. So like you would think that you could like do that. But no. Hold on. Anyway. I bet there's some way. Like look, see it like you lost. How to cheat.
Starting point is 00:58:02 Yeah. How to cheat the Mr. Beast app. Yeah. Because I've seen, yeah, I've seen someone. I saw a video of like a little machine doing the swipes automatically for Tinder. Saying yes to everyone Mm-hmm And just that's like kind of gaming it
Starting point is 00:58:21 Because you just Yeah Then you just pick the hot girls that you like Um All right anyway I did know I did do a Mr. B's Kind of tribute I read crime and punishment
Starting point is 00:58:37 And that was a 22 hour video Oh wow Because he's he remember his old stuff Yeah yeah You know what I thought about doing I didn't do this But um Reading the entire
Starting point is 00:58:48 entire stimulus package. And it's 1,8 pages, but reading it. Oh my gosh. Word for word. No, not live. Just in one video. How do you know how long it will take you? I read a page and then determined how long that page took to read and then I multiplied
Starting point is 00:59:06 that by 1,800 and something pages. It was like a few days. So yeah, no, I think the most you can, is 24 hours long for a video. So you would have to speed it up. Yeah. Yeah. I was going to do the Bible, but it's a 72-hour read. And I didn't want to speed it up, so I did crime and punish me instead.
Starting point is 00:59:28 Yeah. It takes, oh, you know what? My girlfriend, too, tried to read out all of her subscribers and then determined to do that. It was going to take like eight or nine hours. And I think at the time she had like 13,000 or something like that. And not everyone had their subscribers public. So even then, it was like basically an entire full day. worth of just reading nonstop.
Starting point is 00:59:50 It's going page by page by page by page. It's hard though. After two, three hours, your throat starts to ache. Have you tried it? She did it for two hours and after that was like the camera batteries died. Like the memory card filled up. No, yeah. No, I used my phone.
Starting point is 01:00:06 Yeah. Don't use a real camera. Yeah, no. Yeah. Even with my phone, it was like 80, 90 gigs for 20 hour video. Yeah. So. Wow.
Starting point is 01:00:18 Okay. One thing I really respect you for is the variance in video styles are like, you know, video topics that you do. Because, you know, you did the pranks. You do the chatting with. And then you just have like these randomly thrown in videos like one of my favorites of YouTube's like Liddy Audio Library. Yeah. Love that video. Like I've watched that plenty of time.
Starting point is 01:00:38 Sent that to plenty of friends. And of course, you know, like your little off video and just otherly, you know, other randomly. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. Those are just like random spurts of inspiration. Yeah, I don't know. You enjoy making those videos a lot?
Starting point is 01:00:52 Yeah, yeah. You know, you get, especially if the audience likes it too, then you're like, oh, cool, I can upload anything I want. Or something like, so. So for YouTube's Liddy Audio Library, it was just him dancing around to like the stock music and YouTube. Yeah. You should watch it.
Starting point is 01:01:09 I mean, it's incredible. The choreography, everything. The choreography. Yeah. I was just like freestyling, you know. You were going in. That was some good moves I saw that. Oh, is this quick.
Starting point is 01:01:21 Sorry, because I have that ISTJ. Oh, I knew you were a TJ. Yeah. So TJs are kind of like the lawyers and the doctors and the politicians of the world. Okay. And FPs are like the artists and the, the softies and the people on welfare, you know. Yeah, so ISTJs. Or unemployment like I am.
Starting point is 01:01:43 But anyway, so here's your, oh, your hair, man. Yeah, I still had my little... Oh, look, I liked the video, so I saw it. Okay, yeah. Yeah. You know, it's just like one of those random, like, a manic moment. How did you decide to take the shirt off? Where, was that a conscience?
Starting point is 01:01:59 It's a dab on. Did you know... I don't know. Like, ahead of time, you're going to take the shirt off? No, no, there was hardly any planning. I was just like, oh, I want to upload this right now. It was just a weird moment. I was in a mood, you know?
Starting point is 01:02:10 You're in a mood. I like the top moment. glad he's finally getting his life together. Oh, yeah, yeah. And this will be in everyone's recommendation. Right. Half of it's... Yeah, half of it's like, the fun of it's just like trolling my audience. Like, oh, what are the comments going to be for this, you know?
Starting point is 01:02:24 Yeah. Like I did a wall. I just had a 10-second video for a wall back in like 2014, and the comments on that are hilarious. So... You finally lost it after chatting with too many stock traders. I like that comment. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:38 Stock traders pay the bills. there was even one more that was like I want to come on I'll give you 4K and I was like I can't do it oh really we've got people like that we've turned them down they're everywhere I got so many emails like that because they promote them
Starting point is 01:02:55 they're the stock trading platforms they'll pay you four but they'll make 50,000 on the back end it's not worth and it's usually scammie yeah plus it's just I know I know I'll make a quick buck but then it's like it hurts the channel as a whole you don't want to lose credibility
Starting point is 01:03:09 So yeah, no. Yeah, there's just a balance. Are there any videos that you've done that you thought were going to perform really well and they just took a dumb? Yeah, like, well, the rap video, we did a rap video. I remember that one. Yeah. It was good. No, it wasn't.
Starting point is 01:03:26 I liked it. It was creative. Your lyricism was like, it was top notch. Oh, wait, wait, you're talking about my roast myself? Yeah. Yeah, that one's actually pretty good. I'm proud of that. But that, that was like whatever.
Starting point is 01:03:38 We tried to make a real Rap video back in 2013 So you were like seven You know And it totally bombed Like it got like 20% dislikes Which was like unheard of back in like for me Because I always did pranks and it was like
Starting point is 01:03:55 And we spent like five grand making it Like renting out of this club and all this stuff And we're like this is gonna go viral I'm gonna start my rap career now Sometimes it's almost random content that takes off And then it just bombed. So, yeah, everyone kind of hated it. I have a theory.
Starting point is 01:04:11 The more work you put into a YouTube video, the less good it's going to do. That's, yeah, that's very true for a lot of cases. Because if you put a lot of work in, like an abnormal amount of work, it's probably going to be a different style of video. And any sort of different style of video, typically don't perform if it's. Yep. Right. Yeah. I think if Graham did a rap video, I think it would do really well.
Starting point is 01:04:31 I know. Well, that's the thing. Like, the roast myself, it depends on the context. Like the roast myself, it was all. I spent a lot of time on the lyrics and, like, my audience, it was like they, it was like all jokes that, like, the only they knew about, you know?
Starting point is 01:04:44 So it was like a little, like, kind of love letter to my audience, but, um, lost me trying to thought. The, uh, no, yeah,
Starting point is 01:04:52 I had, uh, there's one video, it's out like 10 or 20 million now. It's just called actually picking up a girl. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And it's just,
Starting point is 01:05:00 it's this 30s. No, no. Was it? Was it? Oh, this was the, was the, it was the,
Starting point is 01:05:04 it was not, yeah, yeah. Wow. She was, surprised you knew that. Of course I do. I guess she does say it in the minute.
Starting point is 01:05:11 But yeah, no, it's 30 seconds long and it was on my laptop for like six months. And then I just uploaded it one day and it blew up. I mean, is there anything that you want to discuss in particular a YouTube gram? Um, well, I just, yeah, I got to start reading that YouTube Academy. Oh, yeah, you know what? Let me give you this. Let me give you this. Let me give you that.
Starting point is 01:05:32 Uh, for free. Yeah, no, I'll give you that. But yeah, I mean, we could talk for it. I don't, I don't just though, if I talk. about YouTube analytics on YouTube. People don't see if people, people, people don't care, so I don't want to go too much to tell about analytics. So wait, so where do you see your, I mean, in five years from now,
Starting point is 01:05:48 has the quarantine affected your YouTube channel at all? No, it's ad revenue went down, but like I mentioned earlier, views doubled because people took an interest to personal finance. And everyone now is interested in stock trading. Like anywhere you go, people are talking about the stock market, what's going on with stock. So that's definitely held for the channel. It's brought in an entirely new demographic.
Starting point is 01:06:07 especially with stimulus content because people are interested in like what's happening with the stimulus and now people are taking an interest in politics and everything like that that they would never be interested before because now it affects them. So I was able to reach
Starting point is 01:06:20 a much bigger demographic because of that. So I think as a whole, it thankfully, you know, helped me. You know, something like that was in my favor and it just so happened to be that finance was a, you know,
Starting point is 01:06:35 was pushed. All your, All your stocks are just index funds, right? Like, you don't really play around. I do and I don't. I started since April buying individual stocks. How do you come into contact with the people that you have on your chatting with? Because you find such interesting people.
Starting point is 01:06:50 Do they reach out to you typically or do you find them? Yeah. I'd say about 80% of them have volunteered just emailing me or DMing me or somehow. Was that me? Did I do that? I don't remember. I did. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:04 I sent you the, yeah, I sent you a. DM on Instagram. I was shocked because I looked you up and saw you you were following me on Instagram and I was like
Starting point is 01:07:12 whoa, like that's so cool I can't believe it so then I sent you a message and that's how we set this up I thought
Starting point is 01:07:17 from what I remember I reached out to you but maybe like I didn't read your DM yet you know like it was one of those hidden DMs
Starting point is 01:07:24 no reached out to you yeah we were we were sitting at a like a cafe Jack and I and yeah and you found out
Starting point is 01:07:31 yeah we're thinking about oh I think we watched one of your videos in Japan oh that would be cool if you did that And so I say it went to your Instagram.
Starting point is 01:07:37 I was like, wait, what? Great. Yeah. Well, great. Yeah, that worked out. Yeah. So they typically reach out to you? Yeah, 80% of the time.
Starting point is 01:07:45 Was there anyone that you had on and they like opened your mind up to something maybe that you hadn't previously considered? Well, yeah, of course. Most of them, you know, tell me something new that I haven't heard. Right. But maybe changed your perspective on something? Yeah. I mean, like the model. She kind of gave me a new perspective of how, like, how stressful it is to, you know, count calories or whatever and all that and how tough management can be about that and how it's kind of a corrupt industry or, um, in the ex-convict, maybe like how, um, um, jail time is, it's like you, it's not as violent as they make it in the movies, but it's, you know, everyone kind of,
Starting point is 01:08:36 like keeps of themselves more or something. I don't know. Just little things. I can't really think of all top of my head. But yeah. You know what? It reminds me what you're doing a little bit. Here's a shout out.
Starting point is 01:08:47 His Instagram is Rob's 10K friends. And his goal was to go and meet three people a day every single day until he had 10,000 people. And so far he's met like 4,000 people. So I actually saw him. I think I ran across him on Instagram or something like that. or I read something on Reddit. Oh, his Reddit, actually. I saw on Reddit that he was doing this,
Starting point is 01:09:11 and I reached out to him like, hey, if you're ever in L.A., we can meet up and do that. And I met up with him. Really cool guy. Yeah, yeah. But, yeah, but he meets random people. Does anybody? It doesn't matter.
Starting point is 01:09:21 So here's a shout-out to you, Rob. Rob's 10K friends. Really interesting. Yeah, I think he's doing Zoom calls and stuff like that now. Yeah, really, just really interesting. And some of the insights he's had from just meeting all of these people. So you're on there. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:34 That was a couple months ago? No, that must have been like a year and a half ago. Oh, all right, yeah. Yeah, that was like three years ago for me. Rob's 10K. Wait, you were on Robston? Yeah, yeah. You were on Robston?
Starting point is 01:09:45 Yeah, yeah. I thought that's why you brought it up. No. Yeah, I'm like number like a thousand and twelve or something. Yeah, I'm way back there. I had no idea. Back in like 2017. Wow.
Starting point is 01:09:58 I had no idea. Small world. But it goes to show you. Yeah. I mean, just how small the world is and you really get down to it. That's not, yeah, because I had no idea. Yeah. Yeah, if you go to his and then go all the way down, I'm somewhere in 2017, I think.
Starting point is 01:10:12 All right, I got to go way down it. I'll find it soon enough, but anyway. So, yeah, so Rob's 10K friends, for anyone watching this, you want to be interviewed by him, highly recommend it. Was there anyone that you've ever met that you were surprised that they were a fan of yours, like some sort of YouTube. Graham, yeah. Really?
Starting point is 01:10:31 Yeah, I didn't know you saw my stuff. Oh, yeah. Wow, that's crazy. Yeah, I mean, that's what I can think of for now. Oh, the Flat Earther, he was a fan. He'd like seen a bunch of my vlogs and stuff, and so that was surprising. Who was someone that you've met that you've fangirled the most over? Oh, Jimmy Taitro.
Starting point is 01:10:57 You know him? He's kind of an actor now. He's an actor. He's like in a... In some Netflix show, I forgot. But he was a YouTuber and I think I kind of froze up at like VidCon around him once. Yeah. That's all I can think of for now.
Starting point is 01:11:14 And maybe Jenna Marbles. Wow, that's cool. I got a little nervous around her at VidCon. Yeah. When I first met you, I was definitely fan-girling. And same as Graham. I couldn't tell. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:11:27 Yeah, I was nervous. 2018. The first time. 1663. Oh. Graham, is that? Yeah, I think I started. That's where you and I met.
Starting point is 01:11:35 Yeah. Oh. Yeah. How did you guys meet? I reached out to him via Instagram. Email. Oh, right. Email, yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:42 And then we went out. Simple hello. Could lead to a million different things. So you sent like seven emails. Yeah, I sent a lot. It was not a simple hello. Seven simple hellos. There's a lot.
Starting point is 01:11:56 Yeah. Yeah, I think I'm like one, one, one, two or something. All right. Well, that's cool. Small world. Yeah. I really thought that's why you brought them up. Totally right.
Starting point is 01:12:04 Because he'll sometimes say like, this guy met me through this guy. So I figured, I figured you met him through me or something. Yeah, wow. Read it. Crazy. Would you rather fight one horse-sized duck or 100 duck-sized horses? 100 horse-sized. Wait a duck-sized horses?
Starting point is 01:12:26 Duck-sized horses. So 100, like, little horses? Yeah, that'd be cute. I just kicked them. Like, strategy? That's scary. That's more scary than a huge duck. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:37 I would say. That's what I'd say. That's what everyone's saying, basically. I mean, that's less scary than a huge duck, yeah. Any other? What's the other one? You got the utter one? That's kind of a silly one. Does I ask it?
Starting point is 01:12:48 What do you think the first person that ever milked a cow was trying to do? I imagine they saw that there was a lot more milk in the cow, and they were like, hey, we grew up on our mom's milk. They were like, let's just drink the cow's milk. that's that's smart similar to why I said the language the language
Starting point is 01:13:12 I forget that like is not allowed yeah it's not saying you better edit this one thoroughly and nothing slips past this one anyways
Starting point is 01:13:25 it means so much that you'd course thank you so much yeah I'm honored we've both been huge fans of yours and we're really honored you'd come on
Starting point is 01:13:34 course thank you yeah cool so with that said you guys. Thank you so much for watching. I really appreciate it. Thank you. I'm going to link to all of your information down below in the description where you could also get the YouTube Creator Academy for $100 off and two free stocks
Starting point is 01:13:46 down below on Now Weble. Also make sure Instagram's down below. And click on all those Amazon links, yo. Click that. What else? I think we've said everything that we need to say. Thanks for watching. YouTube's Liddy Audela. I mean, that was an incredible
Starting point is 01:14:03 flick. Like The film is just immaculate. I don't know. I don't know. I mean, how's you come up with the choir? You don't come up with it, yeah. It's just, you have it or you don't? You let the music do the work, you know?
Starting point is 01:14:19 The moods. Jack, what's your Instagram? I'll get you some more followers. What is it, J-LAS Selby? Yeah. Oh, wow. Oh, sweet. Yeah, what are you at now on Instagram?
Starting point is 01:14:27 Me? I am. He's at 22. 25. Oh, hell yeah. Yeah. That should give me like... I'm at 350. Just 350.
Starting point is 01:14:35 Oh. All right. Oh. Am I doing anything else? No, you're good. All right, cool. It's got some food. Sure.
Starting point is 01:14:46 It's funny to keep that in there. Yeah, we're going to keep it in there for sure. I hope that you can see it getting knocked over. Yeah, they like the organic. Look at this, man. You think this is going to taste good. Yeah, why would they title it that? That's terrible.
Starting point is 01:14:59 Dinosaur dung. It's not good. So.

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