The Iced Coffee Hour - “Stop Being Broke!” | FreshAndFit on Dating, Gender Roles, And Money

Episode Date: July 9, 2023

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NetSuite.com slash iced. Remember to keep your business efficient and take it to the next level with NetSuite. Thank you so much. And now let's begin the podcast. We are fresh and fit. Welcome back to Ice Coffee Hour. Let's go live, baby. Let's get it. Well, except we're not live. You guys do live, right? Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah. So don't fresh. Don't say that. No, no, it's fine. We could keep going. This is great. Thank you guys so much for coming on the East Coddy. You guys are here in Las Vegas, live in the studio. Yeah. This is exciting for us, okay?

We have a lot to discuss. One thing is that you guys are serial entrepreneurs, should I say? Right? And you guys invest in real estate as well? Yes. Yes. Definitely. Okay, so walk me through your entrepreneurial journey and how you got to where you are right now.

So basically, I'm from a small island called Barbados, right? And back in Barbados, there's not much going on with entrepreneurship. It's basically you go to school, get a job, get a career, right? So what happened was I started watching YouTube videos online. I saw Green and Stefan, of course. I saw other creators. What was one of the first videos you saw me? I'm curious.

You literally in a, I think a house showing or whatever, talking about your first entrepreneurship very, getting your first property. I believe that was the first one. Oh my gosh. So that was early 2017. Like the beginning. That was sub 20, 30,000 subscribers. That was when your first videos.

Yeah. And you said that was an open house, that one? Open house, yeah. I think it was you just talking about your feelings about real estate and that close to one-on-one with your audience pretty much. And you're still an agent at the time too. Yeah. Yeah, and that was my first video, by the way, that I took it down.

Wow. I took it down. You can't even find it anymore. I'm an oldie fan, bro. Used by your only viewer in Barbados. Yeah. I'm a old like that, man. That could be it.

That's so funny. So hearing your struggles, what you went through, learning for other creators as well, I was, you know what? I've decided I need to do more for my family and for myself. So I knew coming to America was my only option. So I came from Barbados to America, let's a real estate, how to invest, I'd make money as an entrepreneur, social media, all that stuff.

And what happened was, over time, I was making money my job saving for a property. And what I do, a house hacks my first property. I have a chealone. Wow. I got a triplex here and now Miami. That's all worth out for a lot. But how much were you making at the time when you bought your triplex?

$15 an hour. What? But luckily for me, for me, the job offered unlimited overtime. So work crazy hours, 14 hour days every single day. No breaks over a whole year. Save that money and bought my first property. Yeah. And so overtime, you're getting a time and a half, right?

It was able to stack. What job allows you to do unlimited overtime like that? Don't they usually cap you? They do, but remember, it was a startup company, which dot com. So they first came to Miami. They were pretty much brand new. And they were like, you know what? We have limited employees, but we have a lot of work to do.

So you know what? For you guys, we're giving you unlimited overtime. I said, unlimited? I'll take it. So that started my savings journey. That's really cool. What about you? So before the YouTube stuff, I was actually a special agent with Homeland Security.

So what I did was like criminal investigations with everything from like human smuggling to human trafficking to drug trafficking. Anything like Mexican cartel-related. I started in Laredo, Texas. And then I moved to Miami to the Miami Field Office, started up the podcast slash the YouTube stuff. And, you know, they brought me in and they're like, hey, you know, you're saying controversial stuff on the internet. You got to pick one.

And then, you know, I ended up going the entrepreneur route. And then, you know, the channel started to do well. And when I left the government, the first thing I did was actually by real estate. And I took, like, all my money out of my TSP, thrift savings account for the government employees. And I bought my first house. And basically, ever since then, just been buying houses.

was that like for you doing like you know drugs smuggling all that sort of stuff how how is that for me i would see stuff like that and not be able to comprehend it like i'd be able to go home and just be like i can't talk to anybody like if i see anything online like that i just yeah it was it was a tough job it's it's one of those jobs where you have to take it home with you uh you know i bring like my laptop back and write reports and you're working all the time because you're working like odd hours right you got to take home car and everything so you basically live the job and especially when I was on the southwest border, we're working all the time because you could get called out. You know, they catch someone at the bridge with drugs or they catch someone smuggling in illegal aliens.

Basically, you're the, think of it as like you got the Department of Homeland Security and then you got Border Patrol and you got customs. Those are like the uniformed officers. Then we were the special agent, which is think of them as detectives. So you would follow up on any investigation that they caught because if someone is smuggling in drugs or someone is smuggling in illegal aliens or smuggling guns or whatever, there's an organization behind that that needs to be investigated. So I did that for almost a decade. And then I left the government in 2020. And then because the podcast started to take off at that time, so I kind of had to pick one. How did you two meet?

We met through a mutual friend, actually. Another YouTuber named Solo TV 84. Shout out to him. We both live in Miami and he was basically like, hey, man, you need to go out this guy, Freshprint's CEO. He's out there in Brickle in the same area, which is like the neighborhood that we both live in. And we got on an Instagram call together and we just basically bonded over womanizing. Yeah, basically talking about chicks. And like, oh, you're going women, me too.

Okay, let's forget this out. So, yeah. But just add a little context here as well. It's funny because back then, right, I got your course on how to make a channel for YouTube. And I was doing print videos. So I applied your strategy towards prime videos and start blowing up. So I spent hours on YouTube at Starbucks learning how to, you know, make thumbnails, you know, invest in like YouTube. And that started my journey on YouTube as well.

So thanks, thank you, bro, for that. Wow. For real, man. That was amazing. That is not a plan testimonial, everyone. Do they? Just say, just say. Crazy, man.

Yeah. So, hope to lot. That's an OG fan. Yeah. You never really realized just like the impact of even just putting it like that one video, the ripple effect that has throughout everything. That's insane. It was inspiring, bro.

Thank you. I really appreciate that. So I'm curious, because you talked about a decade in that job, did you ever see anything? I'm sure you probably did. That's just like crazy. Like any story that comes to mind. I mean, there's a million stories I could think of.

Because we used to arrest drugs, drug traffickers, arms smugglers, cartel people. I think if I could give you one quick story that isn't going to take up the entire podcast. One I remember was, it was like a Sunday. I was like on duty, which is when you're on duty, it means that like they can call you in for anything, right? Like if something happens, you got to go deal with it. So they ended up border patrol had caught this guy and he said, I need to talk to a to an agency agent, blah, blah, blah, blah. I have some information to give.

So I was like, all right. So I was like, whatever, I'll go and I'll respond. So I went over the station. This is back in Laredo, Texas. Go sit down and talk with him. And he starts telling me about how he's like the bodyguard for this. Cartel, one of these high-ranking cartel guys, at the time it was the Los Zetas that ran that part of Mexico and Nuevo Laredo.

This is back like 2015-ish. And he was guarding someone, I think, named Z-41, who was one of the top guys. And he was telling me how, like, he was a Sicario and he was a bodyguard. And what he used to tell me, what he said was, like, he used to get a bonus. And the bonus was he used to get extra money for every Mexican Marine that he killed. And what he would do is he would, like, slice off a piece of their ear or a finger, whatever. He'd bring it back to his boss. And he got extra money.

for every body part that he brought from one of the Mexican Marines because there was a war going on between those two factions at the time and he was saying like hey I want to provide information this is years ago now so it's done but I want to provide information I can't go back to Mexico they're going to kill me

blah blah blah but just the thing that shocked me was just like how matter of fact he was about like what his duties were what he did etc so I called another agent that was more you know first than his Zetas at the time and he was like oh yeah I know this guy so they came in and they took it over so I was like I couldn't handle that yeah it was wild like that's too like

The disassociation between like that's a person. Yeah. Like their whole life led up to the point of being basically used as a bonus. Yeah. Like his job was solely to like they used to travel in motorcades, right? And his job was anytime the Marines would start to attack them or whatever, his job was to create a diversion. Let the boss get away because they all had armored vehicles. And then he would, you know, create the diversion.

He just like started shooting at them or whatever. And the more Marines he killed, the more he was able to go to the boss and Mexican Marines in this case and get a bonus. He got paid for per body party brought. Do you think constantly being subjected to people like that and experiences like that, it could give you a pretty desensitized view towards suffering or a cynical view towards life? I would say it made me aware of the evils that human beings are capable of. So nothing really surprises me at this point. But it made me look at the world for what it really is.

And, you know, unfortunately, there are some really bad people out there. It's not all sunshines and rainbows. Do you feel like that is the way the world really is? I mean, I know that exists to a certain degree. Yeah. But don't you feel like the good outweighs that? Or do you feel like just being subject to that, you realize like, hey, this is out there. We got to protect against this.

I would say, you know, there's good people, there's bad people. Does it good outweigh the bad? I would say, man, because there's so many criminals that don't get caught. You know what I mean? Like, you know, we always had this funny quote when I worked in law enforcement saying, we only catch the dumb ones. But there's so many people that don't. get caught or don't get prosecuted because it didn't meet a certain threshold or it wasn't

sexy enough for the U.S. attorney's office or whatever. So I would say there is more good, but there is a sizable amount of people that are bad as well, which is it, and I didn't realize that until I got on the job like just how many bad people that are. It should be a weird what's happening in the world at least. It made me look at the world more objectively versus idealistically. So based off of my very limited perspective, because I never grew up experiencing anything

like that as a very normal childhood by American Western standards. or ever. I just believed in like the good of mankind. And I still believe in it. Like I'm an optimist. I think 99.99% of the people out there are good humans.

No one has bad intent. But of course that's just my own. Yeah. I mean, and you would be right a good amount of the time. But you know, there are,

you know, there are people out there that have nefarious intentions, unfortunately. And the thing is, the crazy part is like, you won't even know. Because a big part of for them

why they're able to evade law enforcement is because you don't know. And they've kind of fly under the radar. Have you ever seen any criminals like that that you knew, They're guilty. They did it. We know what they're up to, but we just don't have enough on them to prosecute. Oh, yeah. What are some of those examples?

Yeah. So what we've always said is that it's not what you know, it's what can you prove. Yeah. And at the federal level, right, so there's two different types of law enforcement to make it simple. Like you got the state and local law enforcement, right, who goes through the ADA or assistant district attorney's office. And then you got the feds, right, where you go through United States Attorney's Office. And at the federal level, you got FBI, DEA, HSI, who I used to work for, and all the federal agencies. When it comes to doing federal cases, prosecutors are very picky about what cases they're going to take because they have a very high success rate. So you need to bring a lot more evidence to an investigation at the federal level than for the state level. Now, what that said, this is why the feds don't lose because when the AUSA takes a case on, they pretty much know they're going to win.

That's why when people do get convicted of a federal crime, they do 89% of the time and they rarely take it to trial because the feds have such a good record, I guess, when it comes to prosecuting cases. Interesting. They're very selective on what they take, though. AUSA's or divas. I've always said it, because they only take the sexiest cases. Yeah, reputation, depending on what U.S. Attorney's Office you're in. So, like, for example, like the Southern District of New York is one of the most famous federal prosecutorial offices, right? That's where they went after the Mafia.

That's where they went after the 9-11 guys, you know, etc. Like all the biggest criminals organized crime, typically in New York, Southern District in New York. So they have a very big reputation where they want to go after big criminal organizations, right? They're not going to take anything less than that. So the AUSAs are going to be fairly selective on what they take. Oh, is this guy. injured a community, ah, no, it's good. Give it to the state.

Sure. That's how to look at it. And you think it also has anything to do with media attention as well? For sure, absolutely. I've always said it. That's marketing. Yeah, the feds are cloud chasers. I mean, like if, you know, if an agency is able to go after someone that has a lot of money

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Yeah. So basically, starting from Chick-fil-A, $5 an hour, working at a lot of it. taking phone calls and then upgrading to a job in insurance and then tech company. I was making roughly 15 bucks an hour. And I was doing YouTube as well on the side, making good money from that. And then I met Myron from doing the podcast with Solar TV 84. So basically I had property, it gave $15 an hour and then my YouTube side business. Property was cash loan?

Yes. Cool. And then the YouTube side business. Why did you not go all in on that if it was profitable? And like you said, you were going viral when you're only making $15 an hour? an hour. Well, it's funny because at that point, I made like a couple viral videos, but like every video was viral. So you know YouTube you make at revenue, but like it doesn't always sound on every single video. So for me, it's like, you know what? It's going well, but I don't

know if it can go all the way in as yet. Sure. Okay. And then you. And for me, so when I met him, I had a fitness business and I was still working for the feds. So when you work for the feds, you have to do something called outside approval, right, to get outside employment. So I started my fitness business once I got the green light, you know, because they got to make sure you don't do conflict of interest or whatever. Like, you know, you can't work at a defense law firm if you're a criminal investigated, right? So they got to make sure they clear it, et cetera.

So I started fitness business and also like life coaching. Got that approved. So I was doing that while simultaneously working on the job as well. And then as as YouTube started to take off, that's kind of what I had to make my decision of what I'm going to do. At the time working for the government, I was making about 120, $130,000 per year. So it wasn't bad. And what I did was I took that money invested into the fitness business.

And that's how I was able to get that kick. started as well. So I was able to double my income by the time I how do you have the time for that? Dude, you know that's a good question. Luckily, um, so shout to my, my mentor with the fitness business, Brandon Carter. He basically taught us how to like scale it where it was all automated. Yeah, Brandon Carter, yeah. Fantastic. Yeah. Yeah. Um, so I was able to have my fitness business. I was doing it, um, through an app. Yeah. Right. So everything was kind of like there where the, you know, client was able to sign in, how many calories they got to eat, what they got to do for workouts. It was automated. Then I'll check in with them once or twice a week. And then, um,

I was also doing the government stuff and then the podcasting as well. So it did start to get a little bit crazy. And then, you know, obviously they brought me in or whatever. So it's kind of like a blessing in disguise. But yeah, I was working, government making about 120, $130K. And then I was making about the same thing with the fitness business. So I was able to take that money from the government, invest in that business and scale it up. And it was doing pretty well.

So by the time I left, I was making like 300. And you had property as well? No, I didn't buy my first property until I left the government. Got it. Because my goal, right? So when I left the government, I was like, damn, I'm losing it. out on a six-figure career, what am I going to do here? So the first thing I was like, all right, I need to replace it with real estate, which actually I watched your video,

how to buy real estate step by step by step by step. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Step by step, which was a fantastic. So I pulled that money out of my TSP and bought that first property. And yeah, ended up working out. But my goal was once I got out the government, I was like, okay, I need to replace that 100K per year with real estate passively. So I've been able to like triple that now. So I had a YouTube channel that was a finished channel, and then he had a YouTube channel with pranks and then we started doing a podcast on helping guys become more attractive and getting girls then we realized there was a void guys were like they were struggling with girls not just because maybe they didn't have game or whatever but they had a bunch of things not in line right to be

attractive you know not focusing on money wrong wrong being broke being fat and thinking that they're going to get an attractive girl so we're like dude we need to do a podcast to teach guys how to become attractive in all aspects so they become the complete package so that's when we kind of like collided and then we changed my YouTube channel, which was a fitness channel, into the podcast channel. And then his channel we converted to, I think the Clips channel that we have now. So what did you find to strike it forward most with those viewers that started really helping your guys' success on the podcast? Like was there a specific topic? I think being relatable because most people that talk from an authority standpoint, they're like so far

gone, you can't really relate to that person. But us being regular dudes on the street, you know, wanted to become better men, become successful. They're kind of like. resonated with that. And then, for example, we show the results. We'll go on double this all the time, you know, get going to the podcast. Like, how they're doing this? Once again, we're in the field doing the work.

So them seeing that, you know what? It's possible. I can relate to this person. I'm curious, what prompted that? Because usually what happens from what I've seen is that you go through a breakup or something like that and you realize like, I really got to work on myself. I got to get better at this.

I'm lacking in this area. Like what prompted that to make that change for you guys? To self-improve? Yeah. So we live in Miami, Florida. And Miami is one of the most competitive cities when it comes to like, you know, dating and getting girls. Because the problem is that as a guy there, you're competing with all the most elite men.

You're competing with athletes, celebrities, entertainers, et cetera. Like, they're all there. They all have a second home there. And Florida has exploded in the real estate market. So even more people are coming to Miami now with this, right? And the thing is in our niche, right, the dating niche or whatever and self-improvement. Like a lot of guys that teach guys how to get girls live in foreign places. They live in Brazil.

They live in Colombia. They live in Thailand. They live in Philippines. You know, they live in Eastern Europe where, you know, I'll be. be honest. Like a lot of the girls are hotter. They have certain habits that aren't conducive to, you know, they have certain, how do I say this, characteristics that make them better girlfriends for long-term relationships, right, versus being here in the West. So we're one of the few guys that are not only in the United States, but we're in a very competitive city where the girls are super, it's very competitive

and the girls are super hypergamous. And hypergamy is just the, the one to date a guy that's better than yourself. So we're relatable, like he said, because we're actually dating in the United States in the West. And we're doing. it in a very competitive city. So that's kind of where the void filled in. But where it came from was to get attractive girls, especially in competitive cities, you have to be your best version of yourself. Have to be. So what were the most common problems that you found in your viewers? Fat. Number one, hygiene. Hygiene and being fat. Yeah. Well, let's stop there. Let's talk about being fat. Okay. From what I've seen, it doesn't really make that big of a difference if you could

overcome that with confidence. If you are so confident in yourself, I've seen, Throughout my career in real estate, some of the real estate developers there were overweight. Some of them severely overweight. And I've seen them with so many different women and I have no problem. They're just charismatic. They're funny. You want to be around them. They draw people in.

I haven't really seen that make that big of an effect. So I'll say this, right? You have a point. However, think about desire. For example, I'm half charisma. I might be confident. But like, desire wise, does she really want me? The ride that steals the spotlight every time it hits the road?

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So you know what? Yeah. I've got money. And all girls want me. However, what do they really want? So my thing is, like, even though you're not in shape, if you're in shape, I'm telling you right now, it broadens your horizons.

Because once again, you get more quality girls and as well they desire you as a person. But couldn't you also argue that if you are overweight and you just, that isn't something that's of importance to you, that they'll see that too. And they say, oh, if it's not important to him, but he's confident and he has his life together. He has all these other qualities.

It's not going to make that big of a difference. Well, so I'll be honest about this. A lot of times when you see these fat guys with a girl, one of two things. Either they have money or they're paying for sex or paying these chicks. I've seen the, I'll tell you, like, because there's a lot of tricks. There's a lot of, there's an entire, I don't know if you guys want to go into this, but there's like an entire sugar baby. Tricking culture where girls are pseudo escorts, et cetera. So like a lot of these rich guys that aren't like that are fat or whatever.

Yeah, confidence and, you know, works and everything else like that. but we want guys to be a complete package because let's say you have money and you have confidence, right? But you're fat. Well, you're going to alienate a large portion of women that just won't give you a chance

because you don't meet a physical requirement like you're fat. You turn them off. You'll just turn them off. And on top of that, a lot of the times you're not going to get that same visceral desire or attraction or arousal from that woman.

You're not going to get the best out of her. And we tell guys, we want you to get the best out of your chick. I guess my argument would be that there's so many people out there, that it doesn't matter if you, you know, maybe attract 10% versus 30 because 10% is still a lot when you consider this like 7 billion people out of the world. I would probably agree that there's, I'm just intuitively a larger contingent of women that are

more attracted to a non-fat person. And there are people that are attracted to a fat guy. But I also think, like, I also don't know. Yeah, I guess that's all I was. Well, here's the thing. I would agree with that. Yeah. So in today's day and age, the issue is that,

Girls are a lot more selective now than they ever were because women make their own money. Feminism has kind of come in and women are strong and independent. They have this narrative that Beyonce's kind of fed them where they're not settling, right? Strong and independent. What do I need you for? You better come in and bring some my life. And what's happened is a lot of guys are ostracized in the dating game now because a lot of guys, quite frankly, just don't measure up for a lot of girls.

And a lot of girls have basically an overinflated sense of self-worth. You can attribute this to dating apps. You can attribute this to Instagram. you can attribute this to the internet, TikTok, etc. All of this has kind of come in and made women feel in general that they deserve the most and they deserve a top tier guy

because they might have dated a top tier guy. Maybe they had sex with a top tier guy. Maybe they hung out with one. Maybe they got invited to a bull party. Maybe they might a celebrity here. So women nowadays have access to the highest levels of men. So a guy that was average,

5 foot 8, 5 foot 9, making 50K per year might have been able to find a girlfriend or her wife 10, 15 years ago. But nowadays, it's a lot harder for the average guy. And this has been shown in the studies, right? One in three men hasn't had sex in a year or is a virgin between 18 to 30. Women swipe right only about 5% of the men on Tinder. Guys are really suffering when it comes to dealing with the opposite gender.

Women, on the other hand, you know, it's great for them because, you know, with the internet, social media, et cetera, they're able to have access to men that they would have never had before. So being in the dating pool right now, I don't really experience that. I think a lot of girls, like you can say, of course, that, yeah, there is like this movement right now where it's like, You know, you deserve the most. You're like, you're the best or whatever. Yeah. To women, I see that just scrolling on the feed and everything.

Yeah. But I will also say there's a ton of stuff that's put out there on TikTok, Instagram, YouTube, all of that stuff, that kind of shuts down woman as well. For example, like an extremely attractive girl posting selfies on her Instagram and then girls comparing themselves to this woman, you know, like feeling poorly about themselves. That does happen, but still, think about all the girls on Instagram, right? For example, let's her going to Idaho. She's maybe like a smooth seven or six on a scale of one under ten.

and like she's legit like an average girl. However, let's say, for example, she gets a DM from like Drake or three songs, you know, fly to California, I'll fly you out. That one experience transfers everything. So my thing is like, I don't think that really happens that often. Oh, you'd be surprised. You'd be surprised. Especially in L.A., bro.

Seriously? Yeah. You'd be surprised. Dude, girls in major cities have more opportunities than ever before. Like the internet has changed the game. I talk about this in my book, why women deserve less, by the way. There you go. But in general, like, girls in big cities have more opportunities than ever before.

And the thing is, is that they don't really have to prove themselves anymore. Like if they're hot, they have an Instagram profile, et cetera, guys that are elite are going to hit them up and say, yo, let's hang out. And let's go into like a dream scenario, right? Let's say you turn 18, right? And all of a sudden, girls are offering to fly you out to California to hook up with them. You're getting offered to go on boats. You're getting offered to get your bills paid. You're getting offered to go on extravagant dates at Salt Bay's restaurant.

And you haven't done anything in life. You just graduated high school. Exist. What would you, what kind of person would that make you? You would feel entitled. You would think you're better than the opposite gender. You would think that you're special. You would think that you deserve all this

just because you exist. And that is a lot of modern day women. Is it all? No. But a lot of them do have that mindset. Isn't it just the market value that people place on looks at this point? To me, that just seems like

that's existed since the beginning of time. Yeah, but with social media and the internet, it's amplified it to another degree because it used to be a girl had to step outside to be able to get that attention and validation. Now she doesn't have to leave the comfort of her own home. She's able to effectively scale her dating options. The same could be true about a guy.

A guy could build his entire career without ever setting foot out of the house, could make a ton of money. But the difference is... But here's the thing. But big difference. Men have to earn their value. Women are given their value.

So as a man, even if you become successful and make money, you're still going to have to go out there, talk to the girl, court the girl, not stink, not be a weirdo, not stutter over your words, still display some semblance of confidence, still display some kind of competence. So for men, you have to earn your ability to date the opposite gender versus women, don't.

I don't know about that. I think if you're honestly just an attractive dude who's fit, it's the exact same thing as an attractive girl that's fit. Really? No. You know what? Let's an experiment.

Go on Tinder, right? Make your profile. You're attractive, you're fit, right? That's what a girl that's fat, not as attractive. I guarantee you, should get women. Yeah, but I will also say guys libido is way higher. So if guys are swiping on Tinder, like they're, oh, they'll swipe on anything.

Exactly, anything. But that's, but that doesn't change. They won't swipe on you. You might be hurt tight. Girls are very selective because everyone they'll swipe on, they match. Yeah, pretty much. Literally, bro. And they did a study on this.

They took a guy, right, that was like top tier looks, in shape, et cetera, model type looks, put made a tender profile for him. Then they took a girl that was morbidly obese, like 300 pounds, not attractive at all, but made a profile for her. She had almost 500 matches. The guy only had a little over 100. in a 24-hour period in a major city. So that tells you right there and then

that for men, even if you're a top-tier guy, top-tier men don't get the same amount of options as below-average women. And you've got to hope they show up for the date that they even like you. Because all that comes into play, because once again, you might be a cool guy to her, but you might turn off by how you speak, how you are.

And that's fact that you've got to include as well. Here's a difference to men and women when it comes to dating. When a guy goes on a date with a girl, he's looking for a reason to qualify her. Oh, you know what? She's kind of fat, but she's nice. Oh, you know what?

I don't like her hair, but you know what? She seems really cool. Or I like her shoes. Like guys go on a date looking for a reason to qualify the girl, right? When girls go on dates or when girls talk to men, they're looking for a reason to disqualify you. And it could be the smallest thing. Oh, his shoes don't match.

Oh, I don't like his belt. Oh, he sounds kind of weird. Like, girls are looking to disqualify men because they have so many options versus men don't have as many options so they're looking to qualify any girl. Well, I think a lot of it is really just confidence. I think that's really what it comes down to is getting experience,

going to the gym, being the best version of yourself. Of course. But I feel like a lot of people just kind of get stuck where they feel like even if they do that, they're still not going to be attractive. But imagine, grandma, the guy that's raised by a single mom, right? He has no one to look up to. He's going through school. It sucks. He's depressed.

Like, that guy has no hope unless he has a change of person that he meets. For example, or he says a YouTube video changed his life. The guy stuck. So, unfortunately, most people are in that box. And we also live in a gyno-centric society where we push the female experience over the male experience. We tell men to be more feminine, be nice, get in touch with your feelings and all this other, you know, soft stuff. And the reality is that men need to be more masculine now than ever before. But the thing is, is that, see, we live in a society, right, where we lie to men and tell them get in touch with your feelings, be nice, be soft, etc.

Girls even say this, oh, open up to me. But the reality is they want a guy that's traditionally masculine, strong, and stoic. Women don't want guys that are feminine and emotional like them. But see, I feel like as long as you pick. a lane and you stick with it and you're ruined with that and you believe in that people are drawn to that because you are your true self whether that's a little bit more feminine

more masculine somewhere in the middle if you pick something you're like this is who I am take it or leave it and that sort of confidence and that unwavering ability to say this is who I am that's a masculine trait though being congruent sticking to your guns is a masculine trait but couldn't you say even if you're more feminine

that maybe that's that airs more on that side of that oh then you'd be congruent by yourself Girls wouldn't accept that. So like women don't, so the thing is is that girls will sit there and say, get in touch with your feelings to be more feminine, whatever,

but the reality is they're not attracted to that. What we've come to learn, because we've interviewed over 2,000 women on our show now, right? We looked at studies, we've talked to thousands of men. No one has spoken to more modern day women than we have in the West.

What I've come to realize, this alarming discovery, is that women will say one thing, but actually do something else or respond completely differently to things that are unconventional that guys typically don't think is attractive. For example, a girl will say,

I like nice guys. But the reality is she's chasing the guy that doesn't call her back, that doesn't sit there and negotiate with her and doesn't give her attention. But the guy that gives her all the attention takes her on four dates, gives her flowers, treats her like a princess.

But that's the same with a guy. Most men would go after the woman who's not calling them back, who's playing hard to get, who's seeing, you know, maybe a few other guys would be happy to get anything. They don't even have the options.

But between the two, if you have someone who's calling you all the time who's always wanting to hang out versus someone else who's maybe like having their own life, they're doing their own things, you're not calling you back all the time. I think that's just a human trait. No, it's definitely more female. And the reason why it's more females is because women have way more options for men, right? If a girl's calling you all the time being annoying, that's one thing, but most guys don't even have that experience.

Like only a small percentage of men are in a position where they're able to filter out women like that. You're calling me too much. Get out of here. That's a smart percentage of guys. Most guys can't even get a date. most guys can't even talk to a girl. It is so bad that like guys resorting to like sex robots.

Think about it. The whole only fan's economy is built off a man not getting sex. Why is that? It's the current market they would live in. And as well, most guys know it is, bro. They want a girl, but they don't know how to get a girl. So what did they do? Jerk off, go watch a sex movie.

It's just sad, bro. I feel like a lot of people get to a point of that where eventually they get tired and that's when they make a change. There's got to be some catalyst for him to want to make it. Make a change from what? From watching porn? No, not necessarily watching porn. I think it's more so of being unhappy with your current life and wanting to make a change

and seeing an outcome of that. Of course, of course. You have to find a way out though. But most people can't find a way out because they don't know how to. Yeah. Well, I think a lot of that just comes down to discipline and pushing yourself outside of your comfort zone. Of course, of course. But in different endeavors, right?

So, like, I would say, like, you know, pushing yourself out of your comfort zone a lot of times is being able to tell girls, no, holding women accountable. We live in a society where girls honestly aren't held accountable a lot of the time. They're not told no. They're not told that this is unacceptable behavior, right? We got girls out here that want to have a boyfriend at home that's going to be strong and masculine and dutiful. But at the same time, they want to be able to go to the girls night out and club and, you know,

talk to other men and get other phone numbers and still be able to court their options. And I look at it like, no, that's unacceptable behavior. But if I say that, they look at it like, that's misogynistic. No, that's just having boundaries and respecting yourself. In communities across Canada, hourly Amazon employees earn an average of over $24.50 an hour. Employees also have the opportunity to grow their skills and their paycheck

by enrolling in free skills training programs for in-demand fields like software development and information technology. Learn more at aboutamazon.ca. Why are you giving a relationship to a girl that wants to behave like she's single? It's weird because I have not had that experience of having to like, you know, say, hey, honey, don't go out tonight.

Yeah. But maybe I gravitate towards people who naturally are inclined to stay home. Also, you got to remember. You're on all the time inner. But no. I didn't always used to be like that. I mean, I was grinding at like 18 years old, but nothing.

And even throughout high school, I mean, I'm like 5 foot three. Not the tallest guy. Everyone I've dated has been taller than me. What do you have, though? Ambition. She saw you go somewhere in places and life. High school, maybe. I mean, I was playing the drums.

I mean, that's really what I had going for me. I was playing the drums. I think there are qualifiers for anybody. And I think really when it comes down to it, I honestly probably would put confidence at the utmost, like the most important thing if you're trying to find a mate, I would say it would be confidence.

But it was never the money though, because I remember even being 21, I had just bought my first property, could not get a date. Every day it would go on and I'd be swiping online. I think I was on like, okay, Cupid. I was desperate. Anyone had gone to date with me.

The few dates I did go on, instant friend zone. Instant. But I would go in, I was nervous, I was unsure of myself. And even that was me, I think, making $100,000 a year. I just bought my first property. Like I had a lot of things going for me, even the ambition that you talked about.

But I couldn't, for some reason, get myself out of my head. It's just like, does she like me? And I feel like that, once I got out of my head on that, really just embrace, this is who I am. That's when things really started to change. Well, confidence is important, but you have to have other things in place, too. I always say, if anything, you need to get respect from your girl first. That is the foundation from which everything will be built.

Because if your girl doesn't respect you, she cannot. love you. I would say if you're if you're defining it as a generally like a general guiding principle. I would say everything so far. Yeah, it would make sense. I think a lot is just having boundaries, but I feel like it goes both ways, doesn't it? Like for women, I feel like they need to have a standard that I think their partner should hold on to as should demand for the woman. Here's a problem, though. Here's a problem. Women's standards are celebrated. Men's standards are discriminated or made fun of right so like if a guy says i don't want a promiscuous woman i don't want a girl that's fat i don't want a girl that's rude that's annoying that's crass that's considered insecure

but if a girl says i want a man that's taller than me makes more money than me successful ambitious you go girl you know you're worth you go queen the problem is that male boundaries are disrespected female boundaries are totally respected and encouraged and even if a girl doesn't let's say a girl's fat, obnoxious, and rude, and quite frankly, doesn't deserve the caliber of man that she thinks she deserves. Society will still prop her up and tell her, you deserve that multimillionaire, six foot three guy, but even though you're ugly. But let's just say that is, what's wrong with that? With what? If she feels like she's entitled to that, what does that do? What negative outcome does that have? Well, the problem with that is that number one, she feels entitled when she hasn't earned it,

and then number two is that that sets her up for long-term failure. Because the reason why so many girls are perpetually single is because they overestimate their sexual market value. And what I mean by sexual market value is their looks. They think they qualify for a guy that's an eight or a nine, top tier guy, when they're a five. And the reason why they think that is because they might have matched with one of these guys on Tinder, they might have slept with one of these guys on a drunken hookup, or they might have went out on a coffee date with one.

But the reality is you were able to attract that guy, but can you retain that guy? And that's where many modern day women fail. They're not able to retain these caliber men. They can just get social, sexual situation with them and nothing else. then they think, okay, I deserve this caliber of guy, I'm not settling. Or if they do settle, they treat the guy that's actually on their level very poorly

because they think they deserve more. So this delusion ends up not only affecting their ability to find a guy, but ends up hurting the guy that ends up settling with a chair. But then I feel like it's 50% fault for both sides. It's also the guy's fault for not setting boundaries. Yes. For accepting that.

But it goes back to what I said, men don't set boundaries because they're shame for doing so. If I say, if I can get canceled for saying a girl, was fat and rude. I can literally, they'll be like, oh, taking this down off TikTok,

that's hate speech, that's misogynistic. But if a girl says, small dick energy, I'm not dating a short guy, completely no one bats an eye. Men can't have standards, but women can.

It's pushing the algal. Yeah, I mean, I'm a short guy. Yeah, I understand that I'm not going to be everyone's cup of tea. Yeah, of course.

But my thought is that, you know, out of seven billion people, there's enough of a percentage that would be into what I have to offer. For sure. And obviously,

you've been able to amplify that by, you know, creating a great platform, you know, making yourself very financially successful, et cetera. But the point I'm trying to make is that a girl can go on the internet and make fun of you for being short and say you're a loser and you have small dick energy. But if you went ahead and you said, well, you're a fat bitch, you're going to get canceled. But I feel like guys say that all the time online. I mean, I get canceled. No, but depends on who we're talking. If we're talking about random people online, I feel like they already say that. And here's other thing. A girl can make fun of a guy for being short. He can't control that.

right but if a dude makes fun of a girl for being fat she can absolutely control that but we sit here and say love your curves you go girl queen but if a guy is short uh well small dig energy short too bad you can't control that i don't know i feel like you almost have an advantage now being short because you could really exemplify other qualities and people look at you for sure differently so i feel like you could always play to his strength my point optimistic yeah you're optimistic yeah most guys and here's other thing too What I'm basically trying to demonstrate here is that female standards are always celebrated. Male standards are always disrespected and looked at as discrimination. Why do you feel like it's that way?

Well, men can't speak openly about what they want. Like you said before, men need to have boundaries, right? What I'm saying is that the reason why so many men don't have boundaries is because it's politically incorrect and socially unacceptable for men to have boundaries. I'll give an example. If I tell guys, yo, you have a girlfriend. She needs to respect you. She shouldn't be at the club, you know, shaking booty and hanging out with her girlfriends and going to Miami for girls trips. They'll sit there and tell me that I'm insecure.

They'll say, oh, what's wrong with you? What are you so insecure about? No, it's just common respect that you have a man at home. Why are you putting yourself in precarious situations that could hurt the relationship, right? But on the other end, right, like girls are totally like if a girl says, I want this caliber of man, I want this, whatever. Even if she doesn't qualify for it, society will prop her up and tell her you deserve that man. Like no one ever tells women no, but we definitely tell men no. So at what point, though, does trust factor into that?

Like, let's say for friends getting married or, I don't know, her friends, celebrating a birthday, there's 15 of her friends going out, she wants to join. At what point does trust play into that where it's like you don't want to tell them, no, don't go and hang out with your friends because you're going to a club. I mean, to me, that just seems like a little. Well, I always, I say you can't control a girl. You obviously can't do that. You're going to stay inside.

The only thing you could control is what you do and how you respond. You want to go? cool, you're single when you come back. But there's got to be a line here, right? Yeah, that's not manipulation at all. That's having boundaries and not acting on it. Let's say that example. Hold on. Let me give my example. Sure, go ahead.

One year relationship. She's going out with her friends celebrating a birthday party. The girl thing, 15 girls are going to be there. She's known forever. You would tell her no. You can't go to that because you're going to a club. I would tell her. You can go and do whatever you do.

But you'll be single when you return. But why? Why would that make sense to throw out a relationship like that that otherwise is good? Because if she respects you, she wouldn't have went in the first place. But that seems like more

like an ultimatum that you're placing on that. It's not an ultimatum. She has a choice to make. Okay. But that's an ultimatum. No, no, no, it's like, no, no, no, it's you could do it. She's completely free to do whatever she wants

because the thing is that she's putting the, she's putting the relationship in a risky situation. Why? Why would she be, don't you? Would you trust her? Because let's be honest here. What are nightclubs for? Well, here's the thing.

So I will say in general. Oh, okay. In general, nightclubs are for meeting other people. Okay. All that sort of stuff. I get that. But I've also seen just as many innocent encounters where women want to go to both dance with their friends, have a great time.

And I don't see the issue with that. I think it really depends on the context. I think it depends on the context as well. Like, if it's all of her friends and they're like, hey, it's, you know, so-and-so's birthday, you should come and it's a really close friend of theirs birthday. It's like you're not going to tell the like, oh, sure, it's not an ultimatum, but effectively it is, right? You can't set that on your, well, I suppose you could, right?

On your girl, though, and expect that like, I don't know, it's her friends, right? Unless if she was leading the charge and she was like, everyone, let's go to the nightclub and she invites all of her friends, but she doesn't invite you. That might be a little bit different. But you have to have some compassion for her because you also understand that she has a duty or a due diligence to her friends in the same way that she does to you. Remember we mentioned earlier, right?

about they're being bad people in the world, right? And you don't really know who the person is, like being bad. So, for example, in that environment, there's bad people. Now, she might be an angel. She might be perfect. Or friends may be like, yo, Laquisha, don't worry about your man at home. Just have fun tonight. We're all lit.

We're all drunk. And that one encounter of that one bad friend, spoke the whole group. I'm just saying the environment there can be tainted. Now, is it going to happen? Who knows? We're just saying, if you have a man at home, why even put yourself in that situation? Why? It's not a good look.

Like, you're going to be in an area where, where there's a bunch of thirsty men offering your girl liquor, trying to dance with her, and it puts the girl in a bad position. Here's the other thing, too. She could get drunk and something could happen. And then next thing you know, bam, like she's... For her, kiss another dude or hook up with another dude.

So you know how many girls get looking at Miami? I have boyfriends and were like, yo boyfriend, we didn't even know. It's like, legit. Bro. Funny, bachelor at parties, bro. Oh my God. Yeah. Come to Miami.

It's a bunch of girls. Oh, there's chilling about themselves. Before you do it, there's a gang of guys in there. in their room and I'm the same bro. Things happen. So don't be dumb about it. Be smart. Here's the thing.

Here's the thing. I refuse to give a woman the comfort of security with me as her boyfriend while she can simultaneously and behave as though she's single. I have boundaries and standards and this is what it comes with it. Because the thing is, is that if a girl truly respects you, she's not going to want to go to the club. She's not going to want to be around her friends that want to go ahead and do all this extra stuff.

Single life. Yeah, like she's not going to want to behave like she's single when she's with a man that she actually admires and respects. And my thing is, if she wants to go to the club, that's cool. But you no longer are in a relationship with me because I'm not going to look stupid sitting at home while you go out and behave like you're single. That's the, this is the first point I actually would say.

I have a pretty strong disagreement. Fair enough. Look, if you trust your partner and you trust their friends because also it's your due diligence as your partner's partner to get to know her friends and to understand who she likes hanging out with because she probably wants that too. And if you can trust everybody

and they're all going out to the club and she wants to have a good time, I feel like there's nothing wrong with that. But if you set this, not ultimatum, but if you make this apparent in the beginning, this boundary apparent in the beginning of the relationship, such as, hey, if we're dating, I don't want you going to the club.

It makes me uncomfortable. Would you do me the respect of not going to the club? I think that's fine because that's just a preference at that point, right? And I think all preferences are probably okay. You ever been to a club? Yeah. What was that club? People dance.

Well, drink. What does that lead to? Dancing and drinking? Sex. That is one. one of the potential outcomes, but that's not a one-to-one ratio. It's not like you just go to... So here's a thing.

I didn't. Here's... I think this is where disconnect is. This is where the disconnect is this. Disconnect is this. I think you guys grossly underestimate, like, how easy it is for women to get sex. And since it's easy for women to get sex, the threshold for them to cheat is also easier as well. It's a sliding scale that works together.

Like for men, it's very difficult to get sex. That's mean they always want sex, though, because it's always... It doesn't mean they're going to take it to be offered. But here's my thing. I look at it. if your girl is outdressed provocatively and seeking attention, that is cheating. And some people might look at me like, whoa, what do you mean?

It's because men and women are different. A man has to actually go out there, put his nuts on the line, talk to a girl to initiate some type of interaction. Women don't do that. Women rarely, if ever, approach men. How do they do it? They do it by exposing their sexuality. Men show their charisma.

Women show their bodies. How would that be any different from a guy driving down with like a Bentley convertible with a nice watch on? Because you still got to put in work. You still have to put in work to get that girl. Even though the Bentley and the watch, all it does, it gives you another 20 seconds to build attraction, if anything. Like, it's still very difficult as a man. Even let's say you got a Bentley and a nice watch and everything else like that, a girl will still curve you.

But a girl on the other hand, she could go into a club and dudes will still smash her. But if you go into a club, you go to jail. You know what I mean? I think if you do that with confidence, you walk up to whey. They're going to be like, yeah. Oh, man. That's who you are, and you are a fun waver. She will be attracted to that, because that is who you are.

But the thing is, is that people hate this, but the reality is there is a double standard. Men and women are not the same. There's behaviors that are completely unacceptable for women, and there's behaviors that are completely unacceptable for men. And that's okay. And my thing is, is that women get mad at double standards that don't benefit them. That's where they complain about. I look at it.

If you're in a relationship with a man, you like that man, et cetera. and he tells you, hey, these are my boundaries and you want to go out to the club with your girls and behave like you're single? Cool. You are effectively single at that point and that man reserves the right to walk away from you. And I think he should because as a self-respecting man that's providing a relationship and security

to that woman, it's extremely disrespectful for her to put herself in a precarious situation to the relationship. But who's to say she can't also provide her own security? Like she can't also have a job, have her own money and... Okay, that sounds great on paper, but so does communism. Here's the problem. When women, let me explain.

All right. It's just like, because now we're getting into the feminism topic. Women, even when they make their own money and can provide their own security, they still want a man that makes on average about 56% more than they do. Women don't seek their equals most of the time. Bare minimum, they seek their equal. They want men that are better than them in almost every regard. Height, income, strength, competence, confidence, all these things because women look for security long term. Men don't care about these things.

So if a girl is able to create our own security, that's great. But that's not something that men really care about. I do want to bring it back to this club discussion. We should revisit that. Sure. Do you think that it could be rooted in some form of insecurity, not allowing your girl to go to the club? Because for me personally, if I was dating a girl and I truly,

I believed her and I thought that there was trust between us, I really couldn't care less. As long as she's safe and I know that she will be physically safe, she can go and do as she pleases. You ever seen your girlfriend's phone or a girl's phone? No. Take a look. Just one day, you know, just pick it up one day.

You know what? I love you, baby. Can you see your phone real quick? I guarantee you, bro. Look, I'm just saying, right, bro? Like, people, you can trust to a certain extent. But environments, you can't trust. Because, for example, it might not be here.

It could be her friend. It could be somebody else. Yeah. Maybe, for example, her ideal type of guy, oh, my God, that's like, that's Brian. You don't know who's in there. It's like, why be in that scenario where you don't, don't know what's going to happen. And like,

I feel like that's life, though. It's like every scenario you don't know what's going to happen. I don't think that. I need control over every single aspect of my life. It's about mitigating risk, though. But the thing is, the risk is already so mitigated.

And on top of that, there's a risk of just thinking someone else's life is kind of your own when you put this ultimatum on them. That's just not a, it's not ultimately. No, it's just what you're willing to tolerate and what you're not willing to tolerate. It to me feels like a lot of wasted energy

on somebody else when you could be focusing that on. Yourself. Yeah, yeah. Just like thinking of this like, what's in her phone, what is she doing. Well, he just used that as an example to you guys understand, like, kind of like what a girl's phone is like.

But it's not insecurity. It's, here's the thing. It's security in knowing that a woman is a woman. Women are emotional creatures. Their actions are dictated by how they feel at the moment and the time. Okay. So if they're with their friends, they're drinking, their friends want to go ahead.

Let's go talk to those guys. They're cute, blah, blah, blah. That one thing could lead to another. And the thing like I said before, the threshold for cheating for a woman is far less than that of a man. I look at it, if you're going to dress. provocatively, talk to other men, kiss another guy, dance another guy. That's all extremely disrespectful behavior that constitutes his cheating.

I agree. Yeah, I don't think you should kiss other people. And I will at some point say, hey, like, you're opening the door for it. I'm going to go to the club. So I'm in Miami of a lost celebrity friends, right? This celebrity is always in Miami partying. So one night, we're out at this club, Vendom, and we're in our section, just vibing, having a good time.

Girls are like, oh my God, I'll come in a section, whatever. There's a bunch of white girls from California. They're here in Miami to party have fun. I think it's somebody's birthday. And at least five of them have boyfriends. So they come to a section, they get drinks, whatever. They're just chilling. And we're just talking, right?

So someone have a boyfriend's like, hey, have a boyfriend, whatever. We're just cooling. We leave the club, go back to their house. Bro, I guarantee you, I kid you not, bro. Because I have boyfriends, what are they actually doing at the house? They're doing the worst. And some of them slept with the artist. But that's a personal anecdotal experience.

I'm just saying it's hard. It's possible. It is possible. I'm not saying it's possible. Of course it's possible. Anything is possible. We can walk outside of the door and get struck by lightning. It's possible.

I say that to say it's not, but all the time I'm going to say it's possible. So if it's possible to happen, if you're really curious about you, should not be in an environment at all. So you know what? I have to go my man's home. I'm leaving. I've heard of stay in an environment, bro. That's disrespectful. Here's the thing.

I feel like that's also a small percentage, no? Yeah, I mean, I'm talking with like maybe 5%. I mean, what would you say out of a hundred? Of cheating or of? Yeah. Both of cheating and. and women that would put themselves in that scenario. Well, the new studies now show that women cheat more than men.

50% of married women have a backup guy. Here's the thing, guys. We teach guys to mitigate risk. When men get in relationships with women, they take on far more risk than the woman does. We live in a world now where if you get married to a girl, she can clean you out, take you on alimony, child support, you lose the marital home, etc. Guys take way more risk when they get in long-term relationships with women. So I tell guys, we live in a society where women are encouraged to be hos. to be promiscuous, to excise their options,

to go ahead and get the best guy that they can get, to date multiple men at the same time. They're encouraged to have all these bad habits that are not conducive to good, long-term relationships. So the only way that you can combat this through feminism and everything else that's going on in the modern day world is you need to be very strong in your principle

and very strong in your frame. When a girl's with a man that she loves and admires and respects and knows that this guy will leave her if she does some stuff like that, that in itself is the power where the girl's not going to say, okay, I want to go to the club or whatever, because she knows better. She knows I'm with a winner.

I don't want to put myself in a situation where I can effectively be single by going out to the club with this guy. You need your girl to be more scared of losing you than you are of losing her. And that's where I want guys to be. I want them to be in a situation where the girl likes them more than they like the girl. And I know that sounds evil. But the reason why is because that's the only way you're going to combat the amount of options that women have, the bad habits that modern day women have in practice with the, you know, dating multiple guys, being promiscuous, et cetera. you need to have the girl like you more than you like her

because that puts you in an authority role, a leadership role, makes you the dominant in the relationship, and it will have her be loyal to you. Respect. Because quite frankly, the only thing that women, the main thing that men care about when it comes to women is loyalty. Yeah. That's really what we care about.

Women, on the other hand, tall, money, charismatic, charming, confidence as he dressed well, do you smell well? Men, all we want, be pretty, be loyal. And she might like you, but does respect you? That's huge, bro. And what do you think the difference is between that? What would you call respect? Because when you have boundaries, she follows them.

She likes you. She does whatever she wants. That right there tells you what she really cares about you. And that guy's, for most guys, is like, you know what? She likes me. She doesn't respect me. That goes along. And here's the other thing, too.

The reality is, and this is why our podcast is so popular nowadays. Most guys don't have the balls to tell their girl, hey, I don't commit to girls that like to go to the club. I don't commit to girls that like to go on girls' trips, et cetera. Most guys are happy with whatever they can get. So they'll tolerate disrespect. they'll tolerate bad behavior. They'll tolerate crass attitude,

disrespect in front of their friends, beginning cursed out, even attacked sometimes because the need for getting late is that strong where they'll tolerate female bad behavior all the time. So I tell guys, you need to be on point

and not tolerate that bad behavior because it will make your life miserable. Yeah, what you need that respect? Do you see on the men's side? Being bums and losers and not having frame, not being an authority in the relationship and not being willing to tell women what you like and what you don't like

because most guys would prefer their girl not to be in the club. However, they can't tell her that because their sexual market value isn't high enough to dictate those terms. So they can't tell a girl anything because they got the girl by the skin of their teeth. So how are you going to tell her, hey, I don't commit to girls that go to the club? You should be lucky I'm here. And that's the problem. And if you're a guy, right, that doesn't want to succeed in life, become better, you're selfish.

Because once again, let's see what you want to get a family, right? If you're not your best version of yourself, that means you're going to suffer. So I want to say honestly speaking, like, if you're a guy that wants to succeed in life, you need to improve. Most guys, what do they don't want to do? Play video games, smoke weed, relax. that least of what? Nothing. So it's just sad, man. It's really sad. So I think guys really need to be willing to have boundaries and enforce them. And a lot of guys don't have boundaries and worse yet, they don't enforce them. I agree. I think boundary is important. And I think obviously enforcing

boundaries important because what would a boundary be if it wasn't enforced? But at the same time, I think like, look, providing that not an ultimatum. Oh, the club exam. Yeah. I think if you go to the beginning of the relationship and you establish the boundaries and you set precedent and everything, I think that's lovely. I think anyone can do what's how you got to do it. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, it's not like you're going to drop this on her a year later and be like, oh yeah, by the way, you can't go to the club. No, she knows when she first meets you, what type of guy you are. Because here's the thing, guys. Women know what kind of guys they could play with and what guys they can't play with. Facts. Okay. They size you up when they meet you. Oh,

this guy's kind of a pushover. I could get away with this. Oh, this guy, I can't do get away with this. He's going to leave me. You need to be that guy that's the latter. If I do some BS, he's going to believe me because as a man that's your only power in 2023 women have all the levers when it comes to dating nowadays but they still want relationships they still want to be with that guy you need to become that guy and let them know this relationship is contingent upon your behavior i will not tolerate bs from you and if you if you do i will go ahead and replace you with another girl and this more controversial topic this is why i think i should have multiple girlfriends monogamy is not in your best interest as a man what what led you to believe that well what i've come to realize

Look at all the guys that are marriages are sexless. This is human evolution. Women respect men that have social proof and women respect men that can replace them. So if you have other women, the girls that you have will behave better because they know that they can be replaced at any time.

But couldn't you also say that you don't need more girlfriends or wives to accomplish that? That if you are good at what you do, you have passion, you're funny, confidence. Like all of these things are qualities that you could find someone else of you. That's true, but sometimes you got to give girls a reminder. And the reason why I say that is because she has a constant reminder of her value with Instagram,

with guys hitting on her, with the internet, et cetera. So you kind of have to, like coming back to that thing where she needs to like you more than you like her. Unfortunately for us as human beings, I wish it wasn't like this, guys, by the way. I really wish it wasn't like this. But I've done so much study on this and I figured this out. women want men that other women want to be with right and other men want to be that's just how it is you go into any nightclub where all the girls concentrated in the VIP sections with the guys a minority of men are having sex with the majority of the women women look for the same traits in

men typically regardless of how they said that they're special so my thing is if you have other girls that is a very honest indicator that you are attractive and if a girl sees you with other women and she sees that you're attractive she's going to respect you and she's going to want to fight for you even more so when she knows that there's competition. It's human nature. Look, you don't have to cheat. We're just saying, if you can try other girls,

it's very important. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think you should have multiple girls as a guy so that girls don't get comfortable, but that's my way on it. You could do it maybe where you might flirt with another girl

or maybe she's like, damn, this guy, or maybe you make yourself not as available. It seems just, foreign to me because that's not something I could ever do. I just, I couldn't. Everyone's different about it. Yeah. But what I've realized is when I have multiple girls,

the girls that I have behave way better because they know that they can be replaced versus when I have just one girl, She starts to get comfortable, disrespect can happen, et cetera. Now, can you do it in other ways? Maybe you're not as available all the time. Her mind is racing. You know, I've always said a woman's imagination is your best friend as a man, right?

But there's nothing more solid than her seeing you with other girls knowing that, damn, okay, this guy is it. And the way women may select is, the way women may select is based on doubt. Do I have the best guy that I can get? And if she feels like she has the best guy that she can get, bam, she's going to turn off that radar looking for other guys. And you win. And you win. But the way that she needs to see that a lot of the times is by through other women. Women are very strong social creatures.

Right? If we all go to a club, right? And let's say Graham sees a hot girl, right? He's like, hey, guys, chick is hot. I'm leaving. We ain't going to be like, oh, what do you do? He doesn't need our opinion. He's going to go leave her.

She's hot. He likes her. Cool. Women, however, they're not like that. They meet a guy at the club. They're going to go to the bathroom. They're going to have their powwow. Oh, I met this guy.

What do you think? Here's his discram. What do you think? blah, blah, blah. They're going to need a co-signed from the other girls. But let's say you were in the club and you had two girls with you, and then you talk to her, well, she's not going to need to consult with their friends to the same level because she already saw you with women. So she knows off rip by you being with other women. Okay, he's not a creeper.

He's not a serial killer. He's not a weirdo. These beautiful women have signed off on him. So he's doing something right. This is why men that have women, men that have sex, a lot of girls, are respected. Versus on other side, you see a girl with a bunch of dudes. You're like, ew, what the hell? For example, Dan Bolzerian.

Yeah. You know, that's why guys respect them because he has a bunch of chicks around them. But when a girl has a bunch of dudes, it's like, oh, what is this? Is it a porno? I'm good. I don't want to be around this.

So women respect men that have other women because it's a sign of social proof and status. I think you're talking about a really unique contingent of people also in like that Miami life here in Las Vegas and when I was living in Southern California, that was not my experience in the dating scene. I think for the most part, two people in,

like I said, in my experience and through my friends and my friends that are girls as well, like you kind of just want a one-on-one relationships. That's what most people just desire. That's what fulfilled people the most. It's what made them the most happy. Now, how much upbringing plays into this?

Because I feel like in, like what Jack was saying, a lot of up, like in your area is very much, like family-oriented. Nothing crazy. I know Miami would be the exact opposite. I grew up with two parents. They were married together. Did you guys grow up with? Yep.

I grew up in a two-parent household, Muslim household. Parents are still together. And I saw them and I was like, okay, this looks dope. Like, you guys look super happy. And that's kind of like what shaped, I guess, my belief. and like, okay, this is kind of what I want to achieve. But I want to do add as well that we're not only in Miami, for example. We travel a lot and as well.

We were other places before. So I get what you're saying with the Miami culture. But the clubs, like what type of environments are you going to? You're going to like Barnes & Noble. There's probably a different group of people that attend. Here's an uncomfortable reality. Women will share a man if he's high value enough. Girls would rather share a guy that's a winner than have a loser all to themselves.

And with feminism coming in where women earn more money than ever before, they're more educated than ever before they have higher status than ever before there's a dwindling amount of men that are able to compete for their attraction so ends up happening women become victims of their own success they go up the total poll doors close men you go up the total poll doors open so women whether they want to accept or not are sharing the same small percentage of men so what i'm saying is that i get what you're saying we're two parent household nuclear family i agree with that i think that's the backbone of the united states but we're quickly going into a essential society where most men are not going to qualify for most women. And most girls would rather

stay single than settle down with a guy that's below them in their eyes. That's what we're at nowadays. And if you talk to any attractive girl in a major city, that's how a lot of them think. We've interviewed 2,000 girls from pretty much all 50 states, 30 plus countries, whether it's the United States, Canada, England, UK, even the poorer countries like Ukraine or Romania, whatever, women still want to gravitate towards the highest status men. It's just the way, it's It's just the way they may select. So the days of being an average guy and being able to find a girl,

it's getting tougher and tougher for the average guy. See, I just don't have enough data. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is so beyond. Yeah, I know. I know. Like, I'm used to or like accustomed to or what I've seen,

so I can't comment because it's like, it's so far out of what I've experienced. Yeah, understandable, understandable. And for people that like, and I've noticed that like people that aren't like in a dating scene right now or have been, haven't been in a relationship for a long time

and they're just kind of getting back into it. Like a lot of these things I say, shock them. like, what the hell? Like, is it really changed that much? And I talk about this in a book extensively, like, how the dating marketplace has changed drastically thanks to feminism, thanks to the internet, thanks to Instagram, thanks to social media in general.

Like, things have changed where it's made it a lot more difficult for a guy to get a date. And even in the past five years has changed drastically. How so? What way? Making it harder for guys? Yeah. Well, now you have OnlyFans? You have Twitch?

You have Instagram. You have TikTok. How does it make it harder? Because as a man, you're competing, right? With all these other guys that are giving her attention. Access. So women, what happens is this. A girl has a social media following, right?

Even an average girl, 2,000, 5,000, 10,000 followers. She now thinks that she qualifies for the top tier guys because she has somewhat of a social media following or people are hitting her up on the internet. So again, she thinks that her value is higher than what it really is because the internet constantly reaffirms that. that and tells her, oh my God, you're so beautiful. Look at any, I take an experiment.

If you guys have any female friends, which I hope you don't. But if you do, go ahead, ask her, can I see your phone? Look at her Instagram DMs. Look at her text messages. You guys are going to see, like, I think one of the biggest things that, like, awares guys on like how many options girls have. Look at a girl's phone, man. And you guys will see what I'm talking about.

Those aren't necessarily the DM she wants to get or like. Exactly. You're right. But what is it, numbers in her head. You know what? I'm attractive. Like all these guys are going to be up. I'm hot.

That leads to what? her saying, you know what, damn. But that's like, you know, the creepy guy, like in the corner of the bar coming up to him and be like, hey, I think you're pretty. But she's still getting validated, though. But then there's one or two that I blue checked to her. She's celebrities that hit her up. It's like, whoa, this is me? I did this. Oh, I'm amazing. I'm special. Like, I'm telling you, bro, it does something to their psyche where, because women are naturally solipsistic, right? Studies show this and they think in the world revolves around them and naturally narcissistic because beauty is their main agency. So you take someone that's naturally solipsistic,

naturally narcissistic, and you give them the amplifier of social media and the internet and attention from random dudes all over the world telling them they're beautiful and they're queens no matter how they behave.

Bro, that's a recipe for disaster. Look at what they post. Why would they post that? Attention. I don't know. See, I look at it from a very logical standpoint of anything for the algorithm

and I think if they want to grow their platform like, I don't know. 99% of these girls don't monetize. They don't make money. Why would they do that? What's the bottom line of it? It's attention. It's attention.

Like, guys do the same thing. They'll post pictures. the cars, watches. Like I see the same thing. Do girl, hold on. Do girls? Sit up guys, oh my God, I love your car. I was like, cool car, bro. I'm a car head. Yeah. It's different. If you post your body as a guy in the gym, you're going to get a bunch of dudes. Hey, you look as slow, bro. Yeah, but that's a similar ego boost. If you're feeling better about yourself, you get other people's approval,

whether it's male or female, doesn't that have a similar? It's not to the same degree. It's different. As a dude, right? Let's say you got a top tier Instagram. You on private jets and all this other stuff. Right? You got to top to your Instagram. You're still not going to get a fraction of the attention as an average chick. And here's a difference.

You had to earn that car. You had to earn that watch. You had to earn that ability. She takes a random pick on the beach with a bikini. And they're like, oh, 10K likes. Oh, yeah. What's your cash app?

But someone could have inherited the money. They could have won something. I mean, there's a whole bunch of scenarios, too, or someone would have money. That's true. But beauty is far more common. The beauty is far more common than guys that inherit money. Let's be honest.

I think a lot of beauty is just in the, it's corny as to say, yeah, in a way. I mean, sometimes it's just like, but you are drawn to a certain person over another. But as a guy, like I said earlier, we'll smash anything. Yeah. Girls can get any man they want. Yeah. Men can only get what they can. There's a saying.

Girls get who they want, make it who they can. In an nutshell. I'm telling you, man. I go into detail about this in my book, by the way, why women deserve less. It's probably read it, bro. But I talk about it because, like, so. So many guys like we'll sit there and give a girl money, they'll give her attention, they'll give her likes, they'll give her all this stuff. And she never liked them in the first place.

Okay, I got a random question on the philosophy of all of this. Sure. From a casual, I wouldn't even call myself a casual viewer, but someone who obviously sees the title of this book, Why Women Deserve Less. Yeah. Just the general. I'm on hardcover as well. Yeah, exactly. And audio coming.

Audible coming soon. The general idea of this conversation. Yeah. I could see a lot of people hearing what you guys are saying. Yeah. And developing some sort. And although maybe they're not heating what you're saying like to the T of in-cell type behavior.

Oh, man. I really could see. Yeah, that's going to go. No, no, no. I'm not doing this just to be a contrarian. I'm just saying when you nearly solely, at least on this podcast, talk about like how women are being propped up and how men are the ones that like, like, you've got to grind, you've got to work and they just get it handed to them and stuff like that.

Yeah. Like how is that supposed to, it doesn't seem encouraging. It seems more just like, oh, look at this poor hand that we were dealt. And boom, like, you know, like it doesn't sound like you're propping them up. Propping men up? Yes. No, we're giving them the uncomfortable realities that no one gives a shit about you. You're a man.

You have to go out there and earn your value. But understand that women are given their value and we don't play the same game. And also. But do you think that that has, that will yield better results? Absolutely. Then coming from a place of like, look, sure, maybe this is the way that it, it is, but at the same time, this means that it's your time to go and be badass, like, work out, get strong.

I talk about that in the book. I talk about, like, how you have to prioritize yourself. You've got to get in the gym, make your money, become the man, right? And then the girls will be a byproduct. But the problem is that guys think I can be mediocre and still get a girl. Yeah, but I think it's some of that, though. You could still have a great job, have passion, be who you are, and then go on a date, instantly get friends in because you don't have that charisma.

You don't have that tension. You don't know how to talk to them. So I think a lot of that is really just practice. Yeah, that too. And socializing. That's why we say you've got to go on multiple dates and deal with a lot of girls. I have a rule. I tell guys, don't get married until you're 35, making six figures a year, six months to one year of savings,

in shape, going to the gym consistently, and having sex with 50 girls. 50. 50. That sounds like too much work. 50. 50. And, listen, 50 girls. The time for 50, you could be spending that doing something that will better your own life in my opinion.

You got to get all those other things in place too. If that's fulfilling to you, do whatever the heck you want. But you know it's scary, right? You said that's a lot of time. It's not really, I'll tell you why. The time you spend working on yourself and figuring out what women actually want and what the nature is can save you money and time in the future. Let's say, for example, you spend your whole life on business, your career, right?

That's all you know. You find a woman. It's attractive. You like her. You marry her. Guess what? You're not knowing about the human nature or how women can be or what women actually want.

You give me all these stuff. You're kind of spoiling her. She's like, you know what? I don't buy him anymore. and leave. She cheats on you, divorces you, because I'll have your stuff. But if you knew a woman were from the very beginning, you had experience, oh, you know what? She's actually not a good

person. She actually wants to use me for my money. I don't want her. Let me tell you where the 50 girl thing came from. Wouldn't you sift that out there in the beginning? You can't because you don't know. Here, so let me break this down for you. This is why I said 50 girls. By the time a girl hits puberty, she's getting hit on by guys constantly. Whether it's kids

at middle school, high school, the weird teacher, at a party somewhere when she goes off to college, etc. Women have thousands of interactions with the opposite gender. Guess what happens? That's a lot of practice. They get a lot of practice and figure out which guys are cool, which guys are weird, this dude has this weird tick, this guy has money, but he's a lame, etc.

Women become black belts at discerning male value. Men, however, don't get nearly as much practice because you actually have to go up to her, formulate some kind of sentence, come up with some pickup line, etc. Most guys don't get the reps in that they need to. Women, however, get all the reps in, right? And in today's society, not only do girls get the reps in, right, through social media, guys coming up to them, whatever, they're also encouraged to exercise their options to date a lot of guys. Women nowadays are more promiscuous than ever before.

So, as a man, how are you going to be able to go out there and pick a girl that's marriage material and or girlfriend material for a serious relationship if you don't have the same amount of reps and practice? Here's the problem. Guys go out with a girl. The girl will behave in a manner that she thinks the guy will like. The guy's an idiot. He doesn't have enough sexual experience, hasn't dated enough girls, doesn't know how to tell a hoe from a housewife, and he ends up committing to this girl.

Marries her, gives her a house, et cetera, gets divorced, destroyed, alimony, paying child support. Because he didn't understand how women think in female nature. They make the carnal mistake of thinking that men and women are the same and we are not. But you only get that through experience. And I say if you haven't had sex with 50 girls, you're going to be decently okay at being able to tell a girl that's worthy of a relationship, which one isn't, because women have an inherent advantage from the amount of reps that they get throughout their lifetime dealing with a gender. I just don't know if it's intercourse. That's like the actual metric of like, oh, I understand how women's mind works. And also one more thing. No, it has to be intercourse.

I'll explain why. It's the full package. Okay. I want to hear you explain why. And at the same time, also, if girls are constantly receiving like guys that are like complimenting them trying, like hitting on them or whatever like in middle school, et cetera, like you just said, wouldn't that require a guy in the equation that's doing the exact same thing? But it's many different men is my point. Wouldn't you just grow numb to it after a certain point? Like it just becomes like a, you know, it kind of pings off of you. That's the point. But that's the point.

They get practice at the point where they're judoing guys out of their way naturally versus you as a guy. You don't know what you're doing because when you talk to a girl as a guy, she's a black belt of social dynamics at that point. An 18-year-old girl could walk into a room, size up the room immediately because not only do women have social superiority over men, but they're also able to detect a man's value immediately off of how he comes off. You guys said first at the beginning of the podcast,

confidence is the most important thing. You want to know why? Because when a man is confident, it's a symbolizer for accomplishments in his life. And girls look for what? Security. That is why confidence is so, when you peel the layers back,

that's why confidence is so important. But girls are able to detect that from your tonality, the way you convey yourself, body language, et cetera. And girls have this experience way more than you by the time you actually go up to her at the party and talk to her. That is why it goes like older men

because they're more experienced, they know what they're going through in life and they know what they want. Now intercourse to answer his point. Wait, what about the two sides of the token? Because the girl... Intercourse? No, it has to be a guy.

Right? What you're saying? Like, the girls, they get all this experience sizing up guys or whatever. Yeah. The person that they're talking to in the first place is a guy that's getting experience. But they're not fucking every guy.

Yeah. And you know it's funny, the guy she's talking to, either he's a player, he's older, or he knows the game. So you're saying it's a very limited selection of guys that are getting all these small amount.

A different group of girls. Yes. A bunch of experience. Yeah. They get very good at weeding out losers because most guys are losers. But the point is that they get the experience. Girls get good at weeding out losers.

Men never get the experience of weeding out loser chicks because they'll take whatever they can get because they don't get the same experience. I don't know. For me, I feel like it just seems like an arbitrary number. And I think you can find somebody without 50. Of course. Can you have 20 and meet the girl of your dreams and get married?

Of course. But what I'm saying is that generally speaking, you're going to be in a very good position if you have those five things in place that I mentioned. To get out there and get married. It's not a viable. It's a foundation. If you can make it happen, then perfect. If you want to get married in today's day and age with all the risks going on,

I think those are the minimum requirements. now is everything 100% like let's say you make 90k per year like can you still yeah you know you're 10 10 10 k off fine but what i'm saying is that you need to have experience with women the main or under i just always believed that if you have purpose passion you do what you love you're excited about life you have you have friends you go out and socialize every now and then i feel like that will naturally attract people to you and then from there as long as you have you know the time and the resources to spend with another person it'll happen naturally that does help 100% and 100 That can happen to anybody.

We're just saying, is it likely to happen that way for most guys? Probably not. Yeah, men have to do that deliberately a lot of times. These things that you mention, it's really tough for a lot of guys. They have to put it in their head and deliberately go out and do it. It's very tough to do these things naturally. They have to be taught a lot of times. They were a job that they hate.

We'll then go well. We're just saying the average guy isn't having that type of success. Being real with you. Dude, the average guy can barely get a date. Girls flake like crazy nowadays. Because they have so many answers. And it's funny because we didn't notice either until we coach guys. We're like, this is a really happening.

Dude, we were like, you, we're like, this can't be happening. This can't be real, but it is. It's sad, bro. Because the thing is, is that guys like us suffer from the Apex Falsy. We think, oh, yeah, it's just, it's not that hard. Like, yeah, girls are easy. Not, man, like a lot of guys are struggling. And the more I interview girls on our show, we see why.

Every girl, it's crazy. When I ask girls, describe your dream man. Six foot plus, over $100,000 per year. Yeah, I want them to have a degree, all this other stuff. Man, that's less than 1% of the population matches up what they want. and all the girls are chasing the same guy and worse yet they think they deserve them but to be fair that could be like

a different like the girls that you're having on your podcast like they're from Miami I've seen a couple of the clips no a lot of them from other states and other countries everywhere bro and different education levels I feel like it goes the other way too like guys you're going to say who do you want you also have to think what kind of girl would agree to come on the podcast in the first place was that I'm sorry you also have to think

what kind of girl would agree to come on the podcast in the first at the same time if we've had lawyers We brought a bunch of professionals on. I feel like a lot of people come on just to disagree. Here's other thing too. You know what? You know what's funny? I love when guys say this.

Or people say, oh, you guys don't bring on career women that are smart, that are educated. You want to know what happens when girls are educated and make money? Even worse. They have even higher standards.

Yeah. And then what about the guys? You say that you see this all of the time with guys because me and my house, because I have like, I live in a house with four other dudes. And they don't necessarily struggle to go on dates and stuff. What did you say?

Pause. Pause? I'm just kidding. Don't worry about it. No, I actually have a good time. We have ping pong table. Awesome.

Oh, it's lovely. Yeah. But none of the guys in the house usually have, he thinks it's frowns, a trouble like going on dates with girls. And that's just been my experience. And all of my friends at home, like, it's never been a, like, you just kind of either get a dating app or you just have to have the confidence to, like, it's a numbers game.

You just try and try and try and then it will work out. I think it's just a lot of practice. But if you think about the guys that you talk to when you're consulting, those are guys that are like struggling. So you're kind of getting, in a sense, a biased perspective. a member. Because you're... Celebrity friends.

I have guys that are regular guys. I have friends all over. I have a full scope. We deal with bullshit and we're famous. Yeah, exactly. Dude, nobody's safe. I'm telling you right now,

your friends, bro, I guarantee you, bro. They do issues of girls. Wait, are you still in college? No. Oh, okay. I thought I was, okay, I thought Graham was...

I was serious. I called it Friday. He calls it a frat house. Okay, okay. But I'm just seeing in a nutshell, yes, they can get girls, but are they happy? Are they actually fulfilled?

Are they, like, being who they really want to be? My thing is like, You can get a girl that she's respect to you. That's the big thing. Like, here's the thing. The numbers show it, man. There's more sexless men now

than ever before. Women are swiping left on Tinder 95% of the time. Dating after a failure for most men. Most guys can't get a girl to respond to their DM on Instagram. In fairness. Okay.

The Tinder profiles I've seen of guys are terrible. They are. You're right. You're right. DMs you see. That is awful. You're right. But again, it comes back because there's,

to me the bar set so low that like if you could do anything below the, anything above the average. It's like that sets you. It's two different things. It's two different things. It's,

you got a sliding scale on both sides. So you got guys that are mediocre, right, and staying mediocre because they're watching porn, no good pictures, don't understand how women really think, etc. Then at the other end, women's standards are going up because they're making more money

and getting more status. So it's creating, what, a bigger divide between the two. So, you know, it is what is, but a lot of guys are struggling.

The data shows it, man. It's pretty much it's, it's, it's, what's the word? It's indisputable at this point that a majority of men are struggling to attract a majority of women.

And a majority of women just simply don't like a majority of men. I mean, it's got to a point. Now, think about it, the rise of only fans, the rise of girls putting their cash shops in their Instagram, the rise of girls being able to make money simply for posting fee pictures. This wouldn't be going on if guys were getting laid. I just feel like that's a market.

If people are going to pay for it, it's a business. If they're not hurting anybody, I don't see the... Well, I'm not talking about the morality of it. I'm saying that it's even... The fact that it's even available, speaks volume because my argument is that guys are struggling with women. But that doesn't mean every woman would automatically do only fans. I think a lot of people out there would say, you know what?

I envy the money I could make, but I don't want to do that. My argument is simply that there's such a void in men being able to meet and attract women that women are able to negotiate in bad faith and monetize off of it. That's what I'm saying. Why is it bad faith? I feel like if they're providing a product or a service and someone's willing to pay for that service, they're both consenting. I don't see that being an issue.

Well, here's the thing. They're selling you a dream. When you're, you know, we talked about this with our friend, Andrew, used to run a webcam company. What you're selling to the guy a lot of the times is attention and the possibility of meeting the girl. And that's what the girls do is they create this illusion. They're going to meet you one day.

They're going to build a family. You're getting this attention. So girls give you that, right, without ever actually, you know, intending on delivering it to you. How is your business broken down right now? So you want to talk first or about the? Yeah, so we do YouTube, as you know, we go live on our podcast. We have super chats.

We have as well at revenue. And then, for example, we have like super thanks and donations. And then we have Twitch as well. We have Rumble. Shout to Rumble.com. That's fresh and fit. Yeah. Go support them.

And then we have as well real estate on the side. Yeah. So I have 12 real estate properties. I've been buying crazy the past like two years getting, you know, obviously we had the interest rates were low. So it's free money. Yeah. So I bought. I got four properties in Miami

and then another eight in Connecticut and I'm looking to expand. So the real estate stuff is what I do on the side. I start my fin is business as well. We do consulting courses. We have sponsors to as well. Yeah. So I have another YouTube channel called Fed 1811

where I break down criminal cases, more true crime stuff for people that like that type of thing. I do serial killer cases, terrorism, et cetera. And I give like my professional background in it. Like I'll watch a documentary or I'll cover a case and I'll give like a former investigator's perspective on this. And I do vlogs, for example, our lifestyle site of studio we travel

I have a network called C-O-Network where I bring people millionaires from around the world talk to our group, giving them advice or the network and become successful. Pretty much like that's another revenue for me as well.

But yeah, the podcast takes most of our time because we shoot six shows a week. So Monday, Monday we do money Monday where we talk about, you know, finance, personal finance, making money, entrepreneurship. Then we bring in the girls for after-hous we have all the girls at the table,

the crazy stuff. And then Wednesday, womanizer Wednesday, teach guys tips on how to date, whatever may be, some kind of topic, right? Like five signs, she's cheating on you or something like that. Then we'll bring the girls in again.

And then Fridays, either a calling show or something fitness related, and then we have the show right after. So it's like daytime show, and then we do after ours, which is the nighttime show. And each shows like two to three hours. At the beginning of our career, we shot seven days a week.

Yeah. Four shows a day, nonstop. Like two hours per podcast. So now we do six podcasts a week, which takes quite a bit of time. And then we got our clips channel as well, which that one's doing really well. And Patreon too.

46 million, yeah, and locals. Can you talk? you talk about how much it's currently making right now? Are you the IRS? Are you the Feds? Maybe. Bro?

Let's just say we can buy a couple of Rolexes a month. There you go. Yeah, I mean, I'm pretty transparent. I make six figures a month. So, you know, I, between my real estate property and everything else. So doing pretty well, all the money I make,

I pretty much take it and I just go buy houses with it. Either I try not to buy houses cash. I've done it before when like a deal, there was no other way to get a deal or if it's at the end of the year and I want the tax benefits. but yeah pretty much most of my income that I make

gets immediately invested into real estate. I also have some crypto precious metals and then I just started buying Rolexes and APs but I only buy pieces that I know that are going to hold value sure and I bought a lombot and I went broke yeah and you like cars

I saw the SVJ that you have very nice car how much can you walk us through the finances of buying an SVJ how much was the cost and you break it down well I think for most people you understand first it's about trust yeah for example those type of cars get that loan almost the possible unless they trust you as a as a you know as a lender yeah so what i did was i built my relationship

with these lenders over time so i bought a small car first my first car was a range over then i got the mcclaren by 70s and i got the evo and i got the lamo truck then i got the rose royce truck then i got the SVJ so that trust was built over time which just me to give me loans now regarding the uh spfj that's the lease under my business and that pays I mean I'm a payment for that every month and that goes towards my taxes as well so that by itself is kind of like business expense business fans yeah can I ask how much the lease payment is you really want to know I do okay first time being set on here oh wow it's exclusive I don't share my numbers at all reaction to it 14 km off how much 14 km off 14 000 yeah holy it's I still drive my 2002 Honda but here's it but how much how much down how much down

did you put on that you really want to know I do because 14000 I thought it would be higher, to be honest with you. It's $250K. That's fine. Wow. He put a lot of money down. Yeah. Yeah, he's more into the cars. I thought it was going to be higher, but I was also-

know. Yeah. Can you do like a lease buyout at the end of that? You could. Are you going to? No. The thing is though, like, for me, where I'm at, I don't keep any of my cars that long.

But this car, especially because, like, there's only one of eight of these cars in the color, and it's different. Now, I'll say this, though. My plan was to actually get the car have it for a year and I sell it. But knowing the value of the car now, it's going up, and they're not making any more V-12 aspirated event atores.

So this is the last version that they're making. I might keep it. But once again, I got to run the numbers more. See more for a now. But right now, I might keep it. How many miles do you get a month? Drive a lot. Because it can't be that many.

It's got to be like 3,000 miles a year for an SVJ. Well, the thing about me, I have a relationship with the company, the lender. So I have a different least. most people have. Okay. It's just different. Yeah, he has a good relationship with the car people because it's tough to get those cars. And then especially in Miami, like, there's people that want to get it.

So he cut the line on a bunch of people and was able to get one because he had bought him a McLaren. He had a Lamborghini before. He had like a relationship with dealers. And I pay off all my leases or I sell them. But yeah, I'm still aggressively buying up real estate. I just don't see where you get the cash flow right now. Like if you're buying deals, you have to buy like an 8 to 9% return to make sense over 5.5%

in treasuries. I'll tell you this. I'm getting 12 to 13% cash on cash returns in Florida, in Miami, which is like crazy good. But yeah, the houses are a little bit more expensive. Like you're going to need at least 150K or whatever to be able to put a 25% down payment on these houses. But Connecticut, I'm finding good deals over there too. The only problem is that it's a blue state, but the benefit for me in Connecticut is my family is my management company.

So they run it. I pay them and then they, you know, I invest, I buy and then they go ahead. The only risk to you is if a lot more rental and inventory comes on the market. That's my biggest concern is that a lot of people right now, if they don't need to sell, they're going to rent. And rental listings are exploding in terms of what you could get. And I'm worried that if you rent out today, you're going to be getting a lower rent a year from now, just because there's going to be more on the market, more for tenants to choose from. That could be the risk that I see. Yeah. I look at it like when you own though,

you're in a good position because let's say, yeah, because no matter what, like you can either always increase the rents, get another tenant, or if it's that bad, you could go buy another house. Well, you might not necessarily be able to increase the rents. Or get another, that's why I said get another tenant. But the other tenant might be at a lower rate. Depending on, yeah, depending on where you're at. Like what I found was shocking was that, and I didn't really look at rental listings or anything here in Vegas, but Alex's rent was going up $300.

I'm thinking, okay, let's just take a look at what's available. And you're finding places now that are bigger, nicer, better location for less money. And they're everywhere. And we're looking and they're coming in the market, like several a day. within a few minute distance from here cheaper than what he's currently paid. Vegas is a unique thing because you guys are building out.

That's true. You guys are like, there's endless land to build on because you guys are in the middle of a desert, right? That's some of it. But the other part of it is simply people locking in at low rates,

can't get the price they want for sale, they'll be landlords. And so there's just more coming in the market that people weren't thinking of two years ago. Yeah. Somebody has the same problem. Yeah. They're just like building out even more.

It makes sense. So it's a risk, but I think, yeah, If you're cash selling 13%, you got a lot of margin on that. Even if you break even, you're still paying down the mortgage. Exactly. Getting benefits. And it's appreciating at a good rate too, especially Florida.

Florida is great for appreciation. So are you all in what the stocks right now then in the next funds? No, no. I'm a third stocks, third real estate, third cash, basically. And the cash, I want to buy more real estate, but I'm just like in a wait and C approach it right now. Okay. Yeah.

Because I'm just not finding any deals. Like, if I want to lock something in at six and a half percent, you could find that. But for all the way. work and all the extra stuff. It's just not worth it for that. Like if I could get a guaranteed 10% return, I would do it given it, you know. Commercial? Have you thought commercial maybe? That's what I'm looking at. Oh, you're looking at commercial. Okay, okay. All right. Yeah, that one you could be a little bit more creative with increasing NOIs. Maybe you're increasing rent or doing whatever. Yeah, you got to get. Oh, you know who we had right before you guys was Ben Mala. I don't know if you

know. Oh, yeah. He came on our show. He's awesome. He's hilarious. Yeah. He's hilarious. He's funny. Yeah. Yeah. He's hilarious. He's rusting all of us. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sure he was. But he was telling me to build, get some land, and build a commercial space. There's more margin in that. And it's like, then you buy yourself a job for a year and a half, two years. Is that worth it to work a job? And you got to get a construction company and everything else. So I told them, like, if I'm not doing YouTube and I have all the time in the world,

I'd love to do something like that and be on the job set every day and just like be a part of it. I loved it. Yeah. It just doesn't make sense if your time is split. Yeah. And you got to be out. Yeah, you got to be on. Because then they'll get lazy.

Like, they won't do what they're supposed to do. But the ROI on a video you make, bro, versus all that work? Is it really worth it? At some point it will be. Like, I like to think the real estate for me is always a good fallback.

And I want to replace income. So if I could be like, if I buy this real estate and it could replace X income. So if the channel, something happens here, then I always have that to fall back on it. Like mentally,

I feel better with that. Okay. Yeah. And YouTube is like, when I left the government, I was like, I'm replacing my government salary with the real estate.

And I was able to do that. Now I got another goal. of what I want to make passively. But that's the beauty of real estate. Like, how many doors do I need to control to make X, Y, Z amount of money a month? Yeah, and YouTube is a grind. It is, dude.

There's so many factors outside of your control. It is time consuming. And the one thing that I've just grown exhausted of is constantly thinking about the algorithm. Yeah. Just like, you finish your video, you feel great for an hour. Yeah.

Video's doing well, fantastic. I could zone out for an hour, have a bite to eat, relax. But all night, I'm thinking, like, what's the next topic? What's the next thing? And Graham, what did I learn from you? you, you're as good as your last video.

Oh, I did say that, didn't I? Yeah. I got to take the course. Only as good as your last video. Don't forget that, guys. That is true. I've got more selective now about the videos I posted because for years, really since 2021, I've been posting three videos a week.

Regardless, so if there's nothing in the market that's happening, I'll find a topic to talk about. I'll come up with something that I could talk about. And Jack knows it's like every year I've been like, this is the year I'm going to go down to two videos a week and I've been looking forward to it but then I keep doing three yeah but I'm down right now to two videos a week nice and here's other thing too like it's got more competitive with the pandemic right so many new YouTubers and it's like yeah like I was watching you back and you know when I was still aging right because I was like all right I want to make more money or get

better with my credit but now these all these other finance YouTubers that came on the scene yeah yeah fantastic that that's the part that's hard for me yeah because it's difficult for me now to compete with all these other channels who like I feel old and that's the space. At 32, I feel like I'm ancient. And here's some 21-year-old who's coming up, who has all the time in the world who's dedicating their life to making this one video. And they knock it out of the park. And I'm looking at that thinking, that seems exhausting. I don't have the energy for that anymore. So it's tough to compete. The thing, like back in 2018 when I was doing this, when you would post a video, there were maybe only 10 other people

posting those videos. So it's easy to stand out. But now when you have 100 other creators, each posting one of their best videos and you're spending a month on it. But you get 100 people all spending a month on it. Now you have 100 pieces of content. The bar sits so high that for me to do that, I just don't have the energy to... What the pandemic effectively did

was it created a bunch of new YouTubers, ourselves included, and the production quality went up, people spent more time at home so they were watching YouTube more than television. And now I would say YouTube has effectively replaced cable television. Oh yeah, 100%.

So more people tune into YouTube now for entertainment and then like regular TV cable, whatever it may be, you know, what is it, HBO, all that stuff. People don't watch that crap anymore. They stream their entertainment, if anything, and Netflix and YouTube. So, like, the concert creators have, like, kind of come on a point where they're damn near TV level production.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Even fame-wise, bro. YouTubeers are, like, widely known as, like, famous people because that's what people watch. I get stopped all the time. I'm sure you do, too. Like, we get stopped all the time.

Hey, you know, sign my book or you changed my life or I broke up with my toxic girlfriend because of you. you know, she went to the club and I got rid of her. You know what I mean? Going back there. You know what I mean? It's really great, you know, to get that satisfaction. But yeah, it's competitive now, man.

How long do you guys see yourselves going in the current route? Because I feel like for YouTube in general, I think I mentioned in the program, it's like a five to seven year lifespan. Yes. And I'm approaching six and a half years. So I'm like the end of my life in terms of like YouTube. That's a good question, man. Well, people are already starting to copy our formula with like bringing girls on and debating them about intersexual dynamics.

Whatever podcast. I've started to see them a lot on TikTok. Yeah. I wonder why. So, you know, a lot of people are doing what we do, which is fine. I mean, hey, competition is great. We're just going to continue to innovate because our biggest thing where I don't think anyone touches us is we also talk about, we don't just talk about girls and debating girls and showing how delusional a lot of them are. we talk about how to make money, how to be attractive,

how to actually arouse girls, like what it takes to be like that dude for the girls. So in command respect for her. And we bring on crazy guests that- We bring on crazy guests too. Now, let me ask you this. Do you feel like potentially the bar has to keep getting set higher and higher and higher? Like you're mentioning with competition.

So now people have to get more outrageous and more outrageous. I'm worried it's going to get to a point where all of a sudden something's got to pop because you could only get so crazy until eventually something happens and then the whole thing comes crashing down. That's like prime videos. It always go on a new level each video. But I think for us like we add on a value where for example like, let's say for example

you get bored of watching the girls, watch Monday Mondays. Yeah. Or that you can watch, you know, dating videos. So it's kind of like on some level. The call-in shows or when we bring in special guests. A variety of options you could choose from. Yeah, we literally hit like every topic. We bring in people that are canceled.

We're bringing people. We talk about geopolitics. We talk about making money, girls, real estate, investing. How to become a millionaire. You know, how to detective a girl isn't worth your time. How to get a date on Tinder. Credit scores. Get your credit scores up. So like we talk about all these different things.

So like you'll be able to find that that's why we call ourselves a number one male self-approving podcast. Because we understand that, yes, girls are selective nowadays, but you got to be that guy that they select. What are some of the things you guys think you can personally improve on? That's a good question. My speech and also as well, for example, my fitness, for example. When I first came to America, I was really skinny. I started eating food here I got fatter

and over time I got very complacent but now it's more like if I focus on my fitness and my health I feel like that's more important to me and that's in the world so that's true

in speech uh building some more mass I want to own it want to weigh more than some of these these whales that come on my podcast and talk smack about me uh

building more what's like you prove about building more yeah I'm about 200 pounds of 6 foot 3 so I need to make some more gains get back uh you know uh because I still stay in good shape,

but I train like four or five times a week, but I need to put a little bit more muscle mass on. And then I would say, we want to be Rogan level, to be honest with you. We want to be at the level where, you know, we're like up there with Rogan, like at the top. If we don't get canceled. Yeah, we don't get canceled that is.

Do you worry about that? That's always a thing. When you make content like this where, you know, you're very critical about other things, we're not just critical about women. We're critical about a bunch of different things, right? The politically correct, you know, liberal side of the Internet,

We're very critical of that. So whenever you make content like that, there's always that risk of that. That's why we're on Rumble as well. Rumble.com slash fresh fit. So the Rumble. But yeah, and I think Rumble's going to be huge in the next couple of years as well because more and more content creators are going over there. But don't you think now that you have to, shouldn't you be a lot more careful in terms

of what you say just because you have a bigger audience, you have more eyeballs on you? Now it's worth it to almost scale back in a sense in terms of controversy, just to build something that is bigger and more sustainable? So we, obviously, we play around. it and we, the thing is we don't want to dilute the content, right? We want to give the guys the raw information that they need. So what we do is, is we'll typically go live on YouTube and then like, before we get into the crazy stuff, we'll be like, all right, guys, you got to come on over to Rumble now so that we can really give you all the sauce. But, you know, you have to

dance around certain words and everything else like that. Play the YouTube game. But, you know, we're very aware of the fact that, like, you know, they canceled Andrew Tate, they canceled Sanico, they canceled a couple of our friends. And anytime you make content that we make where, you know, you're seeking the truth, they're going to get mad in. it is what it is. What's something you guys think you could work on like more inwards speaking?

Like internal. You mean like intellectual like the way that your brain works mentally, something like that? We just want to make the podcast the best. I'm constantly researching like stats on intersexual dynamics. I'm constantly researching human evolution and psychology. Like self-development type.

Yeah. Yeah, I'm always reading finance books. So I think for us to get to that level where we're like one of the top podcasts in the world. We're there now. Like we got, we're recognized worldwide, but I want to be like up there,

like one and two. I think self development never ends. Of course, yeah. So no matter what happened, you'll have to always learn more and become better. But overall, for me,

I think personally, just like being better at like, I guess, networking with people. And internally, I would say, maybe just keep reading, keep learning more.

Keep innovating. Keep pushing the envelope. because a lot of people are trying to do what we're doing now, so we've got to continue. I mean, I've said it before. We're the trend setters here. So no one else was bringing on girls and having these tough discussions with them

until we started doing it. So we just got to continue to remind everyone why we said the trends, why we're number one in this, and quite frankly, none of them are going to keep up because we're going to continue to innovate and do different things. What insecurities do you have?

Like, in general? Yeah. Not being the best. Yeah. That's what I'll say is like the biggest. I want to be up there like top podcast. Why? More guys need to hear what we're talking about.

Because I can't tell you how many DMs I get a day saying I was going to self-delete, no one on YouTube. I was going to, I had a date planned, I was going to end it all, et cetera. I watched this video. I finally understand why my girl doesn't like me anymore. And the thing is with human nature in general, right, all these inventions we have, it comes from the males, the humans need to know, right? Sometimes just knowing why something happened or understanding why something happened

will keep you from doing terrible things to yourself. So if we're able to connect the dots for someone or tell them, yo, this is what you need to really focus on versus focusing on this growing. You need to focus on yourself, et cetera. It gets rid of that helplessness and puts guys in a better position. We live in a gotten day now where like men are like

almost second class citizens. No one gives a crap about men. No one cares about their problems. No one cares about their struggles. No one cares about, you know, what they're going through. And it is what it is. But we give it to them raw, like, hey, you got to self-improve and this is what you need to be focused.

Can you still do all of that, though, without being the best? I feel like there's- To reach as many people as we want to, we got to be the best. That's the one to listen to you, look up to you and want to be a part of what you're doing. When we ask questions such as like, what is something that I think you can improve on internally or what is something that you're self-conscious about? Like, what I'm kind of answers I'm more so desiring? Like, if I were to answer those questions, what's something I think I can work on internally is being more comfortable.

Like if I'm going out in public, I'm not, I just don't feel a hundred percent comfortable all of the time. I'm dominated by my mind a lot of the time. You know what I mean? Like I know it's probably a smart thing to acknowledge this person or say hello to this person, but my mind's, oh, you shouldn't do that. Something. Like that's something when I'm saying internally is something I could do better, right? Maybe being more present. And then so that's the kind of the answer I was trying to solicit from you guys with regards to that question.

But that's your answer, though. Yeah. I know. But then I ask like, what is something that you could work on internally? and your answer was like, I just want to be the best. I want the podcast to be the best. There's nothing that you like more compassionate, maybe more understanding, more sympathetic, something like that.

I'm not saying that these are problems I have diagnosed in you. I'm just curious in the way that your brain works. What type of thing? That won't get to the goal. If I'm more sympathetic or compassionate, like no one cares about my problems or me or caring about it. Like say, oh my God, I'm so sorry for y'all. Our job is to give guys the cold reality of how the world works for men

and give them solutions. I feel like it humanizes you to a certain extent. Like mine, I'm too uptight. a lot of the time. I can't relax and I'm two in my head. I'm really afraid to let loose. I don't know exactly why, but I'm like really rigid and I'm trying to break that. But that makes you who you are though.

Yeah, I don't, but I don't know if that's necessarily a good quality. I think there's a lot of qualities about letting go being not attached to a certain outcome and being okay with going with the flow and I'm very like structured rigid and I think there are benefits that I'm missing out on. True, but the person, that those traits are those I want to say

things that held you down in that way, maybe who you are today. But those things you probably wouldn't be in this spot right now. But I do feel like there's aspects that I do want to experience that I haven't. And I feel like by letting go a little bit, being a little less stiff,

I can enjoy those things. Okay. Yeah, I mean, you've been on YouTube for a while. You built up a great platform. For us, we're not there yet. So we've got to continue to be rigid and like, you know, keep going hard as feeling. Like, I look at it.

Like, I look at people that are like our competition, I hate them. I look at it like we're going to beat your faces in. Like I'm very, very competitive. So I look at it like not only are we going to continue to outclass you guys and remind you why we set the trends, we're going to make you guys look stupid in the process and just lap y'all.

That's how I look at it. Like I'm very, I guess you can call it a negative way to look at it, but I hate my competition. That's what fuels me. I feel like it's just a beginning for us. Sure. Yeah, we're trying to take over. We're trying to wake more guys up,

keep guys from being simps. Yeah, but don't you feel like there's also something to be said about lifting other people with you? Yeah, we're lifting We're, we're, but I'm talking about competition For what? No, fuck them.

Why? But what if they have the same mission as you? Because the end all be all isn't like, sure, maybe it is to be the best, but I would assume it's also to help what you diagnosis. We're the best at what we do.

I don't think they are. We're gonna, I look at it like their competition. That's cool. We're going to continue to remind everyone we're the best. And also if that was the case, they would have did it before us,

not after us. We refuse to lose. But here's the thing. Someone could see what you're doing. Say, you know what? They're messing up in these places. I'm going to take what you're doing, but I'm going to fix these few things. Like when I looked on YouTube originally, it was Grant Cardone, Ty Lopez, a few people like that. I was looking at what they're

doing. I'm like, I like it. There's an audience for it, but I could do it this way. And that's how, like, that was my entire approach, just seeing what they're doing, but like putting my own spin on things. And I have a feeling a lot of people will see what you're doing and find here's a few blind spots that they're missing. Maybe they're, they're too controversial. They're too this. Maybe I have to take a more middle approach. I'll attract a way bigger audience. But you know what's funny? They do the same exact thing as us. So it didn't change anything. Well, I think eventually you're going to get someone who is able to see what you're doing

and then put a different spin on it ever so slightly. And you'll be able to see that. I think those are the people to work with. Possibly. Yeah. We'll see. But so far now. Yeah, I mean, for us, like, we use hate, for me personally, I use hate us feel like I'm going to smack you guys and we're going to beat you.

Like, that's how I look at it. Then when I was an athlete in college, that's how I looked at it. And that's how I look at it now. Like, anyone that's trying to come in our lane and do what we do, I'm like, cool. congratulations. You guys have just motivated me to embarrass you even more and do even more

so like we're trying to get bigger guests we invest more into the podcast to get better equipment, etc. I look at his fuel because I truly think that we're the best, we're going to stay the best and we're going to continue

remind everyone why we're going to whatever but like I think the things that me and my own do no one else can actually really do. Yeah. I feel like a rising tide lifts all boats

in that sort of sense where like the more people get into a certain niche or an industry generally the more attention it gets. the more people are able to grow and prosper because of that. That's just been my experience.

The finance would be a great example of that. The finance base, the more people watching finance, the more my own contact gets recommended. So generally, there's this like this benefit effect where people circulate from one to another to another. No,

they can raise on their own. No, I mean, hey, like I said before, competition, like for me, I look at competition as like, cool, we're going to beat their faces in. I'm just a very competitive person. There's no, oh, yeah, a friendly rivalry. No, we're going to end you guys.

We're going to remind you why you guys are inferior to us. So that's how I look at it. I'm hyper competitive. Yeah. Like I look at it as like motivation like we're going to get better cameras than you guys. We're going to get better guests, better production quality. We're going to film better content. We're going to script our stuff better.

Have better questions, whatever may be. So I look at it like we're just going to provide more value to the audience. Like my goal is like how many more lives can we impact than you guys? That's all look at it. And to me, like, and to me, like, when someone sends me a message like, you know, you changed my life. yo I was going to do this to myself and now I'm not doing it anymore. Like the more messages I get like that, the more of that that we get in our competition,

that's a W for me. We wish them all the best. Fair enough. But they're going to take it out. All right. So overall, what I want to say is I feel like I have to sum this up to some degree. Please. I respect what you guys do.

Okay. I appreciate the fact that you guys feel like you have cracked the code to dating and you feel an obligation to preach to in your minds improve other people's lives. I respect that tremendously. I think everybody needs to do what they find to be right at any given moment in their life. Now, if I were you, I would potentially go about it in a slightly different way. I would try to be a little bit more compassionate because, in my opinion, if you're going around and you call a girl a hoe or you are demeaning towards certain people, I think

that it will yield the inverse effect that what you're setting out to achieve in the first place. I think you're going to convince other guys that girls can be hoes and oh, I shouldn't like, yes, sure, you shouldn't tolerate it, but make it more of an inwards experience rather than, yeah, that's their own problem. It's more so like a, yeah, I'm confident. I know what I deserve sort of thing than like, oh, these people, they have problems,

they don't know what they're doing. That's what I would say, that's it. And I think overall, I'm happy. You guys came here and I'm happy to discuss these things. Fair enough. I mean, I look at it like, guys just need to protect themselves from girls that don't deserve relationships

because when guys get a bad relationships, that's how they get their lives ruined. So our goal is, my thing is I want a guy to be able to like meet a girl, size her up, identify if she's worthy of relationship or not, and then allow him to make the decision versus having the wool over his eyes and making a bad decision. I get received you, 100%. However, I would just say, like,

understand that most people, I'm not going to receive it well if you water it down. Oh, 100%. And as a provocateur, you're going to get so many more eyes, right? So, like, if your end goal is what it seems like it is, you'll probably get more eyes, therefore more conversion, so you probably will have a career success rate. But there are consequences such as like the byproduct of,

like some guy getting the wrong idea after watching your content. Yeah, and here's the other thing too that I've noticed. Because we talk with both men and women. With men, you have to give them a very direct and concise solution to the problem. And a lot of the times you can't sugarcoat. You got to tell them. Hey, you're a fat POS. You got to change your life.

You got to really inspire them, right? So I yell at guys all the time, like for being losers. You guys watch the daytime show how I impact them to, like, not be losers. But with women, you know, it needs to be sugarcoded and said in a certain way. And they're more cared about the tonality versus the message being said. So men and women communicate very differently. But with men, I notice I have to kick them in the ass to get them to do something, right? To stop being a fat POS or to stop being a loser, to stop smoking pot, whatever it is.

With women, I don't really care what they think because it's not for them anyway. My thing is for the guys to watch the podcast and realize how women think. When I do the podcast and I tell women like, you know, what we talk about or we have our debates, I don't do it for the girls because they're not going to change anyway. I know they're not going to because they already get everything they want. I do it for the guy so that they understand this is how females think. They don't care what you think. So you need to go in and do what you want to do

and date the same way they do. Treat them as expendable commodities just as they treat us like expendable commodities. Sadly, but that's the truth when it comes to like dating for men in 2020. If you made a segment directed towards women. And I'm talking about in an empowering way in such a way, how do I want to say this?

In a way of just like, you got to respect yourself. You set boundaries to. If you want to attract this sort of guy, this is who you have to become. These are ways that you could improve yourself. These are things that you can incorporate into a communication. Here's how you can talk to guys as well. I think there's a lot of things that you could bring to the table from the other side.

So I will say this with that. Because we have had, I get a lot of messages from women that are married. A lot of couples watch our show actually. And it's funny how like the people that watch our show the most of females, they typically are in a relationship or they're married by a guy, right? Here's a thing that I've noticed with women. When you tell women the unflattering truths about what it takes to get a man and keep him, most importantly, not just get him, but keep him, which most modern day women suck at,

they get mad. A lot of women can't handle the truth. If I tell them something along the lines of, be respectful, don't talk too much, don't be annoying, no one really cares about your opinion like that, you know, cook him food, you know, when his friends are around, make them look good, serve everyone to drink. When I say these things, right, don't be promiscuous, respect yourself, dress modestly, don't go out to the club with your friends. Most modern day women are going to look at me and say, what is this, 1951?

But then they'll turn around, right? And they'll expect you if someone intrudes into the house to protect her. If someone steals the back, they expect you to chase that guy down and beat him up. They expect you to be the breadwinner and pay most of the bills. They want you to be a traditional man, which is cool. I agree. Men should be traditional. But they don't want to be a traditional woman.

That's my issue. So when I tell women, you want a traditional man that's going to be chivalrous and treat you well, you need to be a traditional woman. They don't want a traditional man, though. Most women do, though. That's the problem. They want a guy who pays the bills, assertive, dominant, whatever. because attraction isn't a choice.

This is what women are hardwired to want. That's why if she makes 100 grand per year, she still wants you to make 156K per year because they can't choose that. They want a guy that does these things. So my thing is, if I tell women the truth, you need to be a traditional woman to an extent. Don't be a whore.

Protect your youth. Protect your fertility. Get a guy when you're still at your peak. Don't chase a career in college. Girls are going to look at me and say, what are you talking about? But this is the truth. This is how you actually get a guy and keep him long term.

The problem is that modern day women are great at it. attaining a guy, but they suck at retaining a guy after they have sex. Most girls can't handle the truth when I tell him. Oh, and then accept the fact that he's going to probably want to have sexual other girls. That's the biggest one they can't accept. Happens all the time, though. I mean, we can agree to disagree on certain things. Fair enough.

Fair enough. I appreciate your first. Fair enough. Final question. Sure. How happy are you guys out of ten? 10. 10 out of 10.

10 out of 10, man. Womanizing, chilling, chilling, traveling, you know, cars. Hanging out with you guys. Any good I want. Yeah. Access. Bless up. Networking. Appreciate it. Thank you guys. Thank you guys so much for coming on. Thank you for having us, man. It was great. I really appreciate it. Thanks for giving us the time like this. Fair enough, brother. Cool. Appreciate it. Thanks for watching,

guys. And until next time. All next time. Peace.