The Iced Coffee Hour - The Rise And Fall Of iDubbbzTV | Pre-Fight Trash Talk

Episode Date: April 25, 2022

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Hey, all you frugal warriors out there. Welcome back to another episode of the iced coffee hour podcast, featuring Graham, Stefan, and Jack Harlow. We are now up to $136,000 in 83 cents. Nice. That's a good guess. Yeah, $198,125. Okay. That's how much we made.

Well, thank you for coming on again. We had you back on. I think it was a little bit over a year ago. You showed up. I was so nervous to meet you, man. Yeah. But it's not that scary. No.

You were so nice. Yeah. Like you afterwards, I was talking to Jack Mason, like, wow, he's like, he's normal. Most accommodating person ever. Yeah, but like I was shocked that after we finished, you just hung out and talked. Yeah. Like you weren't in a rush to do. Yeah.

I'm not a busy guy. Now I'm a busy guy, though. Yeah. But I really appreciate it because like I feel like I grew up watching your content. Like from everything from like the Save the Score. initiative to the unboxings of stuff to you like smearing lipstick on your face and just like ripping packages open all the content cops i mean you really like i feel like you've made like this big mark on youtube that like changed the way people approached content for a few years yeah thank you

graham yeah i i would like to think that but i don't know like the lipstick thing i don't know maybe that changed everything it's powerful yeah yeah i remember when you were doing the unboxing. I first of all thought it was crazy that people would send you packages, like to send you stuff and you would just unbox it for a video and make it funny. Yeah, it was cool. There's a lot of really weird stuff that never really ended up getting shown on camera just because it was like just nasty. A lot of nasty stuff. Really? That didn't really like play well to the camera. It's just like, you know, I don't know, a bag of sand, a bag of poop. You got sent a bag of poop? Yeah, lots of bags of poop. Like animals? Like multiple?

Who knows? You know? I don't know. I don't know. I'm not digging through the bags. Open it up. If it's human poop. No. Okay. Got it. You know.

Yeah. Got it. Well, how did you get started on YouTube? For anyone who's not familiar with your content or just like just curious. Oh, yeah. I did a lot of gaming back in the day. I wanted to be a YouTube gamer like PewDiePie. So I would commentate on games.

And then eventually I didn't get any traction. So I switched to other things like the bad unboxing. And then I think I got. board of that. So I did another thing, content cops. And now I guess I got bored of that and I did some documentaries. And I'm not bored of the documentaries, but now we're pivoting into boxing. That's your new big schick, huh? Why boxing? You know, got to take out Jake Paul. Is that really your end game? Got to kill him. Got to kill him. Yeah. Oh my God. Got to kill him in the ring. Yeah, okay. Someone's got to do it, right? Yeah, someone's got to do it. I've been disappointed so far because

no one's done it yet. Yeah. Yeah. We had Ben Ascran, Tyrone Woodley. We were counting on these guys, and they didn't show up. So have you always been into boxing? No. I feel like it's so random.

Yeah. It seems like it's completely out of the blue. Like you're very conventional, traditional, just YouTuber, and then just boxing. Yeah. I mean, I think Anisa has influenced me a lot, just in like, has given me, like, a lot more confidence because I, you know, I was, I think it's very easy to, I've made the content comps that I've made. It's like, it's not really that much work to do research on a person and compile clips

and everything and, like, sort of build an argument. It's a whole new challenge to, like, you know, dedicate time and energy to, you know, working out six days a week, two times a day, and then eventually put it all in the line in a boxing event. Like, that's much more. But arguably, there's other difficult things that you could choose to do. Yeah. Why did, when you could just keep making more documentaries that people love?

Well, this is content for the documentary, right? So we're going to put out a documentary once it's all over. And that's actually been the amazing things. I didn't realize how hard this was going to be. I actually thought it was going to be super easy because I was like, I'm going to face rice gum. It's going to be a piece of cake, first round knockout. Awesome. I don't even have to make a documentary.

But it got to the point where it was like, this is so hard. I have to document this. I have to sort of tell people my story, Brett's story, A.B., all these guys who are involved, your story, potentially. Well, it's in. I mean, I'm not going back, but yeah. Yeah. I had something I was about to say, and then you threw me into there, and I was like, I'm sorry.

Sometimes I could. What happened with Rice Gum? Why couldn't Rice Gum fight? Is it an issue with money? It's money. Austin McBroom got in his head. he, you know, Osmeagbroom was lying to everyone left and right that you can make $3 million off of a fight. And that's the money that he promised a lot of people.

So he told Rice Gum that you can make a lot of money doing this. And that's exactly why he DM'd Anisa in the first place asking to Box. But no one's getting paid $3 million, even $1 million, like guaranteed to Box. It's just not happening unless you're Jake Paul. Got it. Talk through these specifics about the fight. for charity, but could you share some numbers behind it? I'm just curious how much money goes into planning something like this.

And what do you expect to make from this? Because I know, you know, charity, but charity aside, like, you obviously, you have a lot of overhead with this. Yeah, that's funny. That's like the same question we got on this podcast we just came back from. They said it in like a much, I guess, less eloquent way. They were like, so I know it's for charity, but like, There's got to be some kickback for you, right?

And I'm like, oh, no, no, it is honestly all is for charity. But yeah, I mean, I guess the overhead or like the cost of putting the event on, in total, it'll be probably, gosh, it'll be close to a million dollars. Yeah. Yeah. After we pay everyone. Yeah. And, yeah, I don't know. It's scary because it's like, I don't know.

There's a lot of things to manage. We have a real good touring as the company we're working with to try to get it going. They do touring with YouTubers. And they've been super helpful. But, yeah, we didn't know we were going to end up where we're at. We were just scrambling the whole way. Just sort of. But now what happens if you don't make a million dollars?

Where does that money cut? Is this coming out of your pocket? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I've pretty much like, I've already. put in, like 150,000 into the event, you know, but it, we are, you know, the money is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is

guaranteed at this point because of, you know, the sales of the event, uh, and the in-person ticket. So we're pretty much good. We're past the break-even point. You are? Yes. Wow. Yeah.

That's good. Yes. I was worried. So we can actually give some money to charity, thankfully. That's good. I was worried about that. That would be the worst case scenario. It's like you don't break even.

You lose money and nothing goes to be a charity. But everyone's calling it a charity event. It's backbired completely. And you know someone's going to get pissed at you because you're going to take some to reimburse your own expense. It would be like, but no, he took money. Yeah. He took money from this. He stole from the charities.

Yeah, yeah. I mean, we're prepared for all of that. We're trying to, you know, be as careful as possible. We don't want to do, you know, the social gloves, Zost McMroom thing. but we're not guaranteeing anyone absurd amounts of money. Like we could end up if the event literally did only earn $100 over a break-even, that would just go to charity. So you got into boxing because you wanted a challenge.

That's why you figured what you were doing beforehand was a little bit on the easier side and you really wanted to see what you could do? Yeah, a little bit. It was like a calculated challenge where it was like, it's rice gum, piece of cake, I could do that. That was just your initial idea was just that you would fight. Rice gum. Did you even plan on throwing this huge event or would it just be you versus rice gum? Oh, it would have just been me versus rice gum and I was hoping that there would be like a triller or a showtime that would pick it up and work with us, but none of them want to work with us.

Why? Because they don't understand the value. They don't, you know, they look at the boxing audience and they're like, well, none of these, you know, boxing fans are interested or I've ever heard of you. They don't, you know, they don't take the YouTube audience very seriously. I can even send them like a rice gum video that I made that has 50 million views or whatever it is and it would have like no effect. But see, I view this kind of from their perspective in the sense that like, let's just say you say this boxing event is going to get 10 million views guaranteed. They could just go to someone else and say, well, you just make a video and within a week

it'll get 10 million views. Like you go to the Stokes twins and it's like, hey, just make a video about anything. 10 million views is their like low end. So I think from their perspective, they would view the boxing as a vision. bit more of a risk when they could take a sure thing with an established channel. Right. What do you mean with an established channel? In terms of viewerships, in terms of sponsoring or in terms of paying for anything like that,

they'd probably rather take the sure thing. Showtime? Just anyone, right? If they're producing an event, they would, if their thing is exposure, they're probably easier ways to get the same amount of exposure. Oh, I mean, I wouldn't see it as exposure. I would see it as money, right? Like, I mean, it's all untested, so I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I,

I get your point in that way. Yeah. Yeah. But I don't know. You just write it in the contract. You know, Rice Gum, Idubs make three videos about this or whatever. I don't know. Right.

I'm still trying to feel white bond. There's plenty of other sports. Was it just to fight Rice Gum? I feel like there's got to be something deeper then. Was your beef with Rice Gum real? Like, did you actually want to get in the ring with him and, you know, go hand to hand? I mean, no, I mean, I'm not that. I mean, I'm not a huge fan of the guy, but it's pretty surface level.

It's not like he, you know. kick my dog or anything. But yeah, I mean, it's pretty surface level beef, especially, like, at this point. Have you guys talked, like, off camera, you know, like shot each other at DM? Maybe that didn't. Yeah, we get publicity. Yeah, we get back and forth. But, like, I mean, he's the same guy, you know, in the DMs.

Got it. Okay. Yeah. You know, everywhere else. Yeah. And it's just, like, a lot of, like, you know, excuses. Yeah. And all the rest.

He backs out. but you still want to fight because had you been training at this point yeah and to be honest like i could have quit at that point because but i thought i had done like a lot of training i we had put in like two or three months and i thought that was a lot but that wasn't that wasn't anything i hadn't even got into sparring at that point so it wasn't a lot of training um but i thought it was a lot at the time so i was like i got to see this through so that's why we just kept going And then you organize this massive creator clash. You find an opponent and you find a bunch of other people that have other cards.

And then that's where we are here. Yeah, yeah. We're fighting Dr. Mike, is it? Dr. Mike, yeah. Are you worried about that? Because I heard he's been doing this for like, what, nine years or something like that, right? Yeah, 10 years. Legendary box.

But if you're going up against somebody like that, how do you, why would you agree to that? Well, we were honestly just looking for the person with the most relevancy that wasn't like, who would like accept the fight. And I guess the other component is like have they boxed before? Like have they, we want all these matches to be super even and fair. So we knew he had boxing experience. So it wasn't going to be unfair in that way. But he hasn't done a, you know, proper fight. like Jake Paul or something.

Like I wouldn't want to fight like KSI or Anisun Gibb or any of these people who have actually gone in the ring because I feel like that's much more of an advantage than just saying like, yeah, I do boxing fitness for the past 10 years. So he hasn't sparred? No. I mean, at this point he has. But when I contacted him, he had just been doing boxing fitness. Interesting.

Okay. And your game plan with this is throw this event. And are you going to continue boxing after the event and trying to find more opponents? and just climbing up the ladder? Yeah, I mean, if I successfully am able to climb the ladder, I'll climb it, you know, one rung at a time. Yeah. But I'm super interested in the other aspect, which is throwing an event and, like,

continuing to do these events every year. I think that would be very cool. It's, uh, the sport has been very awesome to learn and, uh, I don't know, we've fallen in love with it. Anisa's been doing the boxing with me. Uh, she hasn't missed a single session. and we do all of our sessions together. So we're, you know, fully involved in the sport now.

It's challenging. I have days for, I have just second guess myself. It's bad. Like, why did I agree to this? Yeah. Yeah, totally. I remember, I'm so surprised. First of all, I'm so surprised Graham agreed to it.

I honestly am because Graham told me he's like, all right, so Ian, Ian told me that I could fight Michael Reeves in this boxing match. should I do it? And he was like, he was like on and off for how long was that? Like four weeks? No, it was a long time that you were giving,

like asking for opinions whether or not you should do it. I am, I'm so glad you did it or you accepted because it's like, it feels bad now, but I think once it's all over with, you'll be very glad that you did. Yeah, it was tough for me because I look at everything from like,

you know, financial ROI and it's like, well, how many hours? I know really like how many hours am I putting in this what's the risk I'm not making any money doing this I'm subjecting myself to a lot to push myself through this is it worth it is this really the best use of my time right now but I but I just felt that like I would look back 10 or 20 years from now and be like I should have taken that risk because I've never done anything like this before so that's why when I tell people who are like really doing that and it's

now at least I want to prove to myself that I could actually do it hell yeah You know, whether I win or lose, at least I gave it a shot and I tried. Yeah. So that's the way I see it. And that's so bad ass. I think everyone who actually, you know, gets into the ring deserves all the kudos because it's so fucking hard. Like, it's scary.

Yeah. You know. Every time you, every time I spar, I get fucking nervous. I get super nervous. It's, it's a very scary sport. And, uh, yeah. I mean, you're, you're putting it on the line. That's good.

Yeah. But then, but then I also doubt like, am I, am I good enough? is my stance okay? Am I training enough? Am I not? What could I improve on? Am I too scared? Like it was really,

because I've never gotten a fight in my life. And so even hitting, like anything did not come natural to me. Same. So, yeah, but even the boxing instructor wants me to like, kind of like,

he'll put a pad up. He's like, okay, give me a hook to this. And it's like, I don't want to. You know? Because I'm like,

it's going to hurt. He's like, just do it. He's like, if you hurt me, you hurt me. And I'll, like, kind of do it soft. And he's like, you got to do it harder than that. And so part of me worries that, like, I like Michael Reeves. You're not supposed to. Okay.

I really don't like Michael Reeves, but, like, I don't want to hurt him. Like, I would feel terrible if I, like, even just make him feel bad. Like, feel bad. I couldn't, like. That's probably the next step is just knowing that it's a sport and that he's there to hurt you, so you got to hurt him. It would be really entertaining. if you guys were in the ring together.

Just too scared to throw punches. It would be really entertaining. You probably go viral. We just circle each other. We just like the entire time. Apologize after hitting the other person. Yeah, I'm sorry, man. You're okay.

Bring him back up. But I mean, that's what I also like about this event is, you know, most of our guys, I shouldn't even say most. I don't think anyone has any type of feud or, you know, dislike for the other person. And we're not trying to force any of that. and it's cool to show people that that's not what you need because there's a lot of people who didn't agree to this

and they said like stuff like oh yeah I couldn't fight you know so-and-so I have too much respect for them and it's like you're just a pussy you're just not saying yes because you're scared and there's like a lot of weird kind of macho excuses along the way where you could just tell they didn't want to do it but they didn't they weren't honest about it they were like you know So I have a question. When you were coming up with the idea of Stephen versus Reeve.

Steven. Yeah, Stephen versus everyone. Yes. Anyway, yeah, Keemstar. When you're coming up with the idea of Stephen versus Reeve, what made you think in your head? I should bring Michael and ask Graham if he wants to fight him. Did you think he would say no? Like, what were your initial thoughts?

Well, I remember I saw you guys talking about on the podcast. and I was filming a video with William Osman and Michael Reeves was there just to kind of do a cameo and I was like, I'll ask him. Like, because I was kind of nervous to ask because I was like, I know, like you, Michael, pretty much like over half the card, I was like, they're going to be way too busy to say yes. No way they're going to say yes.

Just out of busyness. And Michael just immediately was like, yep, I'll do that. it's like what okay like i got to find an opponent for him it was going to be uh captain sparkles but then captain sparkles was like now i'll kill whoever i'm in the ring with yes uh so then it was like graham and i was like what the hell like this isn't even i actually like your your response was the biggest surprise of anyone for sure really yeah of course you're the financial guy everyone's shocked i would i was shocked yeah yeah and you're bringing in like a whole different crowd to boxing that like I mean they're not involved in the sport at all

they're right yeah it's like I would say your name and Harley's name are the two that people react to the most when I bring up the event to like strangers yeah yeah it's awesome man you're just stressed out yeah because today was an off day for me I had training earlier today and it was a really bad day and I had a bit of a headache going into it I didn't have the energy I don't sometimes when like you're in the zone I'm working and then I start to stop it to go bad day. So but but it's those days where I just I doubt it's normal. All of it's normal.

I've had some like particularly on this trip it's been pretty bad like it is so constant. But part of the reason I said yes was because a while ago I forget it was either Jack or maybe somebody asked me like would you ever do a boxing match or like something like that and I jokingly said only if it's Michael Reeves because I remember when we did a video together we got like head to head we were the exact same height. And I felt like at least I feel like I would have a chance. It's meant to happen. Yeah.

So when you said, Michael, I'm like, well, that, you know, I'm not going to back down from that. I put it out in the universe and it happened. Now, if you put me against Captain Sparkles, immediate now, because I've seen him at the gym, he is jacked. Not only that, but he has a few inches on me, too. Like, I think he's like five, eight or something like that. But, and he's just massive. Like, yeah, no, I would be dead.

But at least with Michael, I feel like, okay, at least it could be at someone. somewhat even match. I think we started training at the exact same time. I think he took more time off in the beginning, but now I think he's doing more training than I am,

so I've had a little bit longer, but he's doing more frequent. Yeah. It freaked me out to see somebody posted on Reddit a little clip of Michael Fighting. Yeah. I can't really differentiate

between like... Good or bad. I don't know. It looked good to me. Uh-huh. And so I saw this, I'm like, oh man, like, can I, am I at that caliber?

I don't know. And it psyched me, out a little bit to see that. Yeah. That's normal. Yeah. Just use that. I mean, just know that, like, we don't know if you're, like, you could be awesome, just as, just as easily as you could be terrible, you know?

Once you're put in that situation, you know, you got a, you got a nut up. And you might. Yeah. But maybe you have a bad first round and you're like, oh, I can't embarrass myself like this. And you go crazy. Could happen. Yeah. Maybe.

Yeah. I want to see that. Yeah. Don't count yourself. out. I don't, yeah. I don't know. I just, and the other thing is I don't want to get hurt, and I know, I know I brought this up to you before. I've just like, because for me, it's like my head, my brain is like the most important thing. And if that gets hindered in any way, it's not worth it.

So I know you're going into that with a slight risk. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And well, another thing I think you should think about as far as like ROI goes is like the return on like, growth as a person, like mental, emotional. Like, this is challenging you in ways that your brain is probably not used to, right? Right. Like, that's pretty big.

I think that'll help you, like, maybe do some good investments in the future, don't you think? No, I don't. I don't think so. I think the only thing it'll prove is that, you know, at least I could put myself out of my comfort zone and knock on it would be okay. You'll be the most best financial guy out there. True. Yeah. I had that, what's his name? Kevin? Meet Kevin?

Yeah. He reached out to me in the email wanting a box too. Really? Why do you put him in that? Well, it was kind of late. You should have put him in. Yeah, but I mean, he needs to train. I told Kevin to do it.

You did? I was with Kevin when he emailed you. Yeah. Yeah. Afterwards, he's wanted to fight Grant Cardone. Yeah. Oh, that'd be shit. Yeah, and he posted a tweet.

It was, I thought it was kind of funny. But Grant Cardone blocked him on Twitter. So he said, let's see if you could punch as good as you block. Oh, that is good. I like that. I don't think he's going to say yes to that. No, of course not. But you should have gotten, if you got Kevin in there, I thought that would have been.

That would have been awesome. Creator Clash, too. It's totally awesome. Yes. Kevin would do it. 100%. Hell yeah. Kevin versus Andre Jick.

Yeah. That would be a great fight. I think he actually texted Andre before he asked Grant and Andre said no. Yeah, I think. If you get those two to fight. That would be great. Yeah. Because I feel like they're about the same height.

and they both had their strengths. I think Kevin has more reach. Maybe Andre is a little bit more like quicker. So that would be a good fight. Oh, yeah. Just do a financial fight. I love that. Financial fight.

You call it financial fights. Well, have that like a sponsored segment in between all the other fights. Yeah. So, yeah. So anyway, it's been up and down for me. I'm looking forward to. The closer it gets the more nervous I'm getting. Yeah.

Yeah, that's, I mean, everything that you're feeling is super normal. Just know that, you know, we're all doing it together. You know, you're, if, if it's going to be, it's going to be sick, you know. You're going to, hey, here's a question. Part of the reason why I thought that you accepted this is because you were like, all right, I got to make this like the most financially viable thing for myself as possible. Kind of like your, like, logic with the, the Pokemon card packs from Logan.

Oh yeah. You like broke that down. Like I can make 17 videos out of it and this and that. Yeah. Um, you have any plan for this? Like I can make five videos. I can get sponsored.

None of it's, none of it's financial. I don't want to say I'm having a difficult time getting sponsors, but because it's like, they don't know the numbers and the sponsor is going to be like, okay, well, a logo on the jacket or the pants or whatever.

What price do you put on that? And then it's also like, well, if I'm doing this for charity, do I just donate the money instead? Like, that's not the point. I'm not doing this for the money because then I may as well just do a sponsored video instead.

Right, right. So. Awesome. This is good for you then. It's one of the few things that I've done that's not driven by money. I love that. One of the few things. The aquarium was something that's not driven by money.

This is nice. But that aquarium, like, guests who walk into your home, they're really wowed by that. Yeah, true. They're like, this guy must be kind of like an important guy. pretty wealthy because of the aquarium. Yeah, maybe I should, you know, keep a pound in the sky.

Maybe I should send him some money. Maybe I should subscribe. I haven't done that already. Gosh, no, this is, it's not financial driven at all. I love that. But I don't even have a sponsor lined up for this. I don't even know if I'm going to do a sponsor. Hey, that's fine.

I don't even know. I can't make a video about this. I mean, it's like I could do one afterwards. Whether I win or lose, I will do a video, um, expressing my thoughts. So like, but I'm not, I don't be like, well, I could do a video from it. And probably that, and there's no way that video could be sponsored because then it takes away from the message of the video. It's like a heartfelt message and then like, oh, by the way, I want to thank, I don't know,

you know, Clorox for sponsoring this video. The best thing that could happen for you is that you get a massive black eye and you just make a video and put yourself in the thumbnail. Yeah, that's a really good thumb. I'd be fine with a tie, honestly. And then it's like, you know, you'd be fine with a tie. I'm fine, a tie. You're going to win. Don't say that on record, man.

You're supposed to have confidence, man. At least feign confidence. Yeah, but then if I downplay it and I'm better. No, that's fair. I'd be fine if everyone got a tie so long as it was really entertaining. Do I get a participation trophy or something for just like just coming in there? You might be able to give you some sort of ribbon or something. Give me just like a pin or something.

Right, right, right. We'll get some, like, real cheap. Second place. I don't know. Second place. It'll be, man, it will probably be, you know, one of the most memorable things you do in your life, which is, I think, worth it, you know. I'm proud of you. Yeah.

But I don't know if Jack's going to make it, Jack. I'll put you on the spot here. Yeah. I know. I mean, I want to go so badly, but I planned a trip to New York with my best friend. like four months ago before the date even got released and it just so happens and we went for a concert it's the exact same day as the concert i really want to go it's going to be a beautiful ceremony if jack if jack doesn't go to this i mean it's this is only this might only happen once it's certainly

graham will not box again this is graham's only time boxing i want to go so badly i really want to go and i told graham like i've told him for the past like two three months i'm like dude i want to be in your corner i want to be like cheering you on the entire time and graham just goes i don't know i don't Every single time I say that. Yeah, because you want to downplay it. You don't want to make it like a big deal. Graham, you're going to go in there. You're going to win by knockout, first round.

Are you not nervous for your fight? Yeah, I'm nervous. What are you most nervous about with this whole event? Is it like the success of the event, the turnout? Is it about winning your fight? About everyone having a good time? Yeah, I want the fans to have a really good time. I want the event to be a success.

The fight itself is interesting because it's going to be so unlike. anything like you can try I think you want to simulate as close as you can what it's gonna feel like to be in the ring so like getting into a boxing ring that's like probably first step you know getting used to people screaming it at you that's like another thing you should probably you know be prepared for focusing all of that sort of stuff and it's everyone who's talked me about it has basically said like Yeah, there's no way that you can actually be, like, completely ready for it. Mm-hmm.

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Thank you so much, Latter, and back to the podcast. Now, you're wearing this sweater. I want to see the physique. Yeah. I want to see what's... Graham wants you to take off your clothes. All right. All right, you might have to censor this.

You don't have to censor. Graham, you should too, man. What? Take on a muckus. No, no, just the shirt. Just like the jacket. That's all. Look at this thickness.

That's thick. Shield your eyes. There's too much thickness here. Oh, yeah, that's thick. Oh, I blend into the background a little too much. That's a really good look. That's a really good look. Yeah, you definitely look a lot bulkier.

So what's the plan with this? Is it just you're eating a lot of food? You're trying to bulk up now and then you're going to cut afterwards? Yeah, I'm probably going to cut after the fight. You're going to cut after. So you're just trying to put on weight, and you're not trying to do anything. No, I have to eat every day, like a lot of food, because I'm 1-85-ish right now, and we're meant to weigh in at 190, and he's like 200, so he needs to come down to 190.

Isn't that dangerous for you? I think it's more dangerous for him. Yeah, it's the opposite. Is that how weight classes go? So if you're going up, you're more advantaged than someone like down? Just depending on the situation. Like, obviously, like, for me, it's going to be more, maybe more fat than muscle. I don't know.

You look huge. You look massive. I'm raising my shoulders. You're towering over us. You have to zoom out here. There we go. There we go. That's what we're talking about.

All right. Got some large boys in the ice coffee room. Nice. It's interesting to me because... Show them your butt. How big your butt? Yeah, show us your butt, man. Well, this is kind of a...

Everything's real dark. He's in a shelf ass. Oh, you've got your... I can take my pants. Yeah, go for it, man. Last time we were together, you took off your pants too. I know. Oh, you did?

Yeah, yeah. You made him do that, yeah. I didn't make them, but... Wow. Oh, whoa. That's crazy. Yeah, that's... Yeah, I didn't know you had a dumpy back there, man.

Yeah, that's huge. Yeah. Yeah, it's all dark. Congratulations. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah.

I do definitely see, like, a big physique change. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I mean, we've been weightlifting alongside, uh, boxing, you know, got to get bigger to face off against Mike. I just hope that I'm going to be big enough. Yeah, for me, I've been losing a little weight, which is good.

Yeah. Yeah, so I'm down four pounds the last two months. So I don't need to lose a lot, but like just around my stomach, I've just not been happy with that. So that area? Yeah. Like leading up to this or is it? Yeah, the last, like, ever since COVID, I got that little bit of a gut. Yeah.

Okay. So it's, it's getting sure. shaved off now. Slowly. Hell yeah. No six-back yet. No. Okay.

Like maybe two in the right light. Yeah. In the right lighting, uh, in the morning before I eat anything. Like, maybe. That's cool.

Yeah. Yeah, it's probably closer. You're probably closer to it than I am. Really? Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

Check this out. I can see some. I see the lines. Lines. Yeah. Yeah. I think great. Yeah.

Water retention. Anisa says. Would you box, Jack? Yeah, I would do it. Would you box Kevin? Kevin asked me. Really? If I would do it?

Yeah, honestly, I told him that, you know, I would just do it in his backyard if he really wanted to. I've never boxed anyone before. It sounds fun. I worry that with Kevin such like in it, I don't want to say like he has that like addictive personality, but he's so just like laser focused on something that I worry that he would like put everything aside and just train, train, train. Like he would overtrain.

How has training been with all that you have to do? Because I've stopped doing pretty much everything to train. And I imagine that's got to be tough for you, given that you got a lot of things to do. Yeah. So I've been doing three times a week since, I don't know, when did we start? January, February? January, I think. So three times a week.

I've just recently, well, like as of two weeks ago, I stepped it up to now four times a week. Awesome. So Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday, Sunday. Um, it's difficult. Yeah. Yeah. Those back-to-back days were tough.

And this last week, because I missed a Sunday for Easter, I had to do Friday. I know Thursday, Friday, Saturday. And that Saturday was horrible. Have you, have you started sparring? Uh, the trainer. I've, I've not sparred a person, I don't know, but I've been sparring the trainer. And he just wears the big dick gloves when he's doing this. And, uh, yeah, he, he, I think he's, he's kind of training me.

to not put my hands down. And so anytime I do the wrong move, he just, and he's so quick with the bops. So he's getting all the bops in. But he says that, like, with his experience, he's going to be better than any opponent that I would ever do, and he could control, like, what he hits. So, yeah, so sometimes I'll throw a hook,

and he'll just know I've opened myself up. Yeah. It's so fast. Yeah. So, and then he's been training me to, you know, when anytime I do this, you've got to drop and roll and do this thing. over here and it's a lot of memorization.

Yeah. Of just like different things. It's complicated. If I'm going to do this, you're going to do that. And if you see this, I want you to do that. And it's just like, yeah, it's a lot more intricate than I thought. Yeah. It's, yeah, you kind of have to let it go a little bit.

Like you maybe overthink things because I do that when I'm, especially when I got started. Yeah. And you just need to like feel it and kind of zone out a little bit to make it happen sometimes. Right. Rather than thinking like, all right, now I'm about to do a role. You know, it's like, eh. Right.

Just roll. Yeah. And there's been a few times I've been hit in the head. And it's just like I've never felt that like sensation before. And there's one that just like he hit me like here. And it just knocked. I've never like had my neck just go back instantly. And there was that quick like second.

What was going on? Because I just caught me off guard. Yeah. And then a few other times like hitting the stomach and it just like gets the wind out of you. And in that like second you can't you feel like a little disoriented. But you can't just like put your hand. Oh, what was that? Yeah.

Then you're done. Totally. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I mean, you're going to, you know, getting punch will be second nature to you by the time you're done with your training. You'll be like, yeah, I can take a punch. But I've noticed usually that, you know, if I carve out the time, I'll have the time for it. Yeah. You just make that a priority.

And I've been worried, obviously, like, before, like, how am I going to have the extra? Like, I can't even do an extra hour for this. How am I going to do an hour for this? But the funny thing is, it's like when you carve out that hour, you're more productive than the other hours. Yeah, so I've not noticed any decrease in anything really Cool, yeah, that makes sense I think the, I looked at the lineup and I gotta say I think the one I'm most scared about is I'm scared for AB

I mean, I looked at who's his opponent, Hyundai, Hondar This is Hondar I have no clue who he is but I looked at his picture He's right here. Jesus Christ, I'm, hold out, A, B, I'm terrified for you right now. Like, look at, look at this. Oh my gosh Show AB

Pull up a picture of A B A B I like I like you man But that's hilarious Alex would you box Yeah man Yeah why not Yeah

Who would you box Oh it's hard to find an opponent That's my size So You know Because people my size Are either freaking Arnold Schwarzenegger

The Rock Right So I need somebody That's like Physically In the same kind of realm because I want it to be a challenge. I don't want it to feel like I'm going to get completely destroyed.

You would clobbered Nicacado. Dude, I would fight Nicacado. So if I'd have set that up, I'd fight him right now. Do you make that happen? Wow, who knows? Do you know him? I don't, but who? I think it was like Keemstar said, oh, I got a contact with Nicacavo.

I'm like, all right, maybe. But, yeah. I've tried reaching out to him, I think twice. never got back to me. He'd have to train. No, no, no, not for boxing, just to get him on the podcast. Oh, I mean, that would be great. Such an interesting, because I think he's playing up a big character, and that's what I think.

He'd be perfect for this podcast, because he makes a bank, and he really knows how to, like, organize his channels, and, like, he is a money fiend. Like, I would argue he makes more money than you with all the things that he's doing. I would disagree with that, but. Yeah. I know, I don't know. But honestly, I would love to get him on. He's got like, he's got only fans. Yeah.

He's got like 10 channels. You might be right, actually. He's got a ton of weird shit going on. Oh, he's got cameo. He grinds on cameo. Yeah, so I would love to get him on to talk about the finance asset. But I don't think he ever would because then that review, then you pull back the curtain. And then not only do you do not see him the same way as like, is he acting?

Is it not? Is this him? Is it not? But then I'm sure people know how much he's making. would they support him as much? Or would they be like, dude, come on, like, this is too much. It's hard to say. I don't think it would ruin it that much.

Because he's sort of like, I don't know. I think his routine only really, like, I think it only works on people who, like, want to believe it in the first place. Like, you know what I mean? Like, it's for, like, kids and people who just find him naturally funny. No, but even for me, you think that's it? I have a hard time understanding who his fans are.

Really? Yeah, I feel like most people just tune in just for like absurdism. It's just like, oh my God, yeah. Oh, he's got a lot of funny routines. Like, yeah, if you watch enough of his stuff, you like, you start to pick up bad. Oh, yeah. Really? Yeah, yeah.

He's got, man, I love this routine where he calls, uh, he was like buying the Travis Scott meal on McDonald's a lot. Yeah. And he kept calling it, uh, give me the Travis Skittles. Give me the Travis Skittles. This is really dumb. but you know he's like pretending to not know what Travis Scott's name is and it's just super funny I think he called him a bunch of there was a he'd do a routine where he'd get back home with his

mound of Travis Scott meals and he'd like talk to Siri and be like Siri who is Travis Skittles and it would like pull up like all sorts of dumb results and he's like and he's like Travis Scott Scots Travis Scots or something like that and it would like bring up but like a football player or something and he just would do that for I don't know 20 minutes before he even eats. See, I think if people saw that if it is a character and he's like he's got a smart business behind he's like yeah, I have a team and this is this and we pull on this amount of money and yeah, I have to do this right now but it's doing so well and I think people, I think a lot

of people gain respect for that but I think then people would not tune in for the shock value because they know it's like a business calculated move. And it's working in his favor. And if you watch, you're playing into that. Yeah. You might be right. I've had this discussion with how too basic, actually. Even the idea of, like, just revealing his identity.

He should do it. And what's that? You should do it. Yeah. I'm being serious. Is he on the fence ever, or is it just like a clear no? It's a clear no. Yeah.

Why? Oh, he just thinks it would ruin the entertaining value of the channel. Like, as soon as people know who he is, it's no long. are interesting. Well, that means he has to... I agree with that. Yeah, I do, but that means he has to continue with how to basic. Yeah.

And I've seen the recent videos compared... Like, what he was doing a few years ago, every video was, like, blowing up. But now I feel like people have seen the same sort of format over and over and over again. They know what to expect. I think, I mean, it's maybe not the same as it once was. Yeah, I would agree with that. But he is in a weird position. I actually didn't...

I don't think I realize that people came across this channel accidentally too often. I actually thought, like, people were, like, a little bit more tuned into it. But, like, I think most of the videos and views that have gone mega viral have been legitimately people being like, oh, you know, a jello recipe or whatever. They'll click on it, like normies and they'll be completely, you know, flabbergasted by it. Really? The first time I watched it. Yeah. It's just completely surprised.

Yeah. Yeah. So I think there's like, there's just constantly new people flowing in. getting surprised by it. So, like, I don't think he really needs to change it up too much. Okay. It's just a different, he's got a good system. That's interesting.

Does he work a job? Or is it just... No, YouTube. You worked at Domino's for a while. Are you serious? Yeah. Like, while he was still doing that. Wait, why?

Just for a meme. But he can't even share that meme with anyone. Oh, you shared it with me. So it was just for his friends. Yeah, well, and then when people would ask him, he does, he'd be like, I work at Domino's. But now here's, but how much trust does he put in the people that know

who he is? Like, how many people would you say in the planet know who he is? I mean, there's probably a few hundred. A few hundred? Yeah, for sure. Wow. But how has it not been leaked by now? I mean, it's, I think it's been leaked in like

some ways, like, it just depends on like where you're looking, what you're looking for. And there have been so many leaks, it's so probably hard to tell. It's like, yeah. Yeah, because I did, oh, gosh, when was this? It must been a few years ago. Oh, when he did the face reveal?

Yeah. And then Max Mofo came on. Yeah. And that got me intrigued to be like, who is this guy? So I started looking up and I saw all these, like, videos like, this is him and this. And, but there's so many of them that I'm sure one of them is right, but you don't know which one is right. Yeah. Hey.

Was he there the entire time? Yes, this is, that's one of my many spells. This is summon a muslin man spell. What's up? This is Brett. Hello. Hey, Brett. We'll share like Lady in the Tramp.

We're eating spaghetti. Welcome, Brett. Thank you. Welcome. So how long have you been training for? You're going to be fighting coming up soon. Yeah, yeah. I've been enjoying this conversation.

I don't get to talk, like, hear a lot of the other fighters, like what's going through their heads. Right. This is nice. Yeah. I started like end of November, beginning of December, basically. Around the time, A.B. I did too, I think.

Okay. We started. They started way before you guys. So what have you, what's your trainer been teaching you? You have the same trainer as Michael Reeves. Yeah. His opponent. I have two coaches, but yeah.

Well, Michael started really late, right? When did you start? January sometime. Okay, yeah. I think Michael started February. Yeah, okay. But Michael's been training more. So, like, he could catch up to me, even though I've started a little earlier.

Yeah. Can I tell you that his cardio is really good? How's your cardio? I don't know. Is it actually really good? Our coach brought us to this, like, famous run that, like, Mani Pacchio does, up this really tall peak called Dante's Peak. Okay.

And it was me, odd one, odd ones out, and, um, and Michael. And he just didn't stop. He just ran all the way up the hill. Like, it wasn't. Michael did? It didn't affect him. You doing this to psych me out? Are you being serious?

I have no. I mean, I have no. Yeah, yeah. I'm hearing your, as a guest. I'm here to help you. Yeah, no, he really, like, it didn't affect him. I don't know why. Because we were dying for sure.

He's probably pretty light. So I could help. Yeah, he's like, got, like, field mouse energy. Like, he's just, like, he could run from a hawk for hours. I'm not, it's not a bit. So what that means, maybe, is when you go to L.A., you try to do that run to see where you're at. I'm here, basically, the entire time through the fight.

Okay. Yeah. Just, I mean, what's your cardio? Like, what do you feel confident? Like, if you ran on a treadmill for, like, half an hour, how do you feel at the end of that half an hour? I would be able to do a half hour. Okay. I guess I would start there.

Yeah. Running for a half hour? Yeah, Graham's cardio. I don't like sprint on my runs. I said it for like, you know. I don't know. I could do a mile like 10 minutes. When I was running and I haven't really done a lot of running,

but usually it's a six and a half. And I'll keep that going for it. But usually I'll do a few minutes at a time, a few minutes, a few minutes of that, quick walk. A few minutes of that, quick walk. So you've done running before. So it's like we used to run. Yeah, we did.

Like a year and a half ago, we'd go for runs like quite frequently. Actually. It was two miles. So a mile to a park, we do chin-ups on a children's playground. Yeah. Sometimes we couldn't if they were playing on the playground. Yeah, it was so awkward. We would wait for them to finish.

Sometimes we'd do it if they were there. And the parents would be there. And so we'd like wait for them to finish. And we'd be like, all right, no, we could go in. And we'd like do our chin-ups like that. So awkward. But yeah, it was. And then sometimes they wouldn't leave.

So we're like, well, we're not going to tell them to. Sometimes we'd wait for them to leave because we'd, like, do a few other laps to see if they'd leave. Oh, yeah. We'd go around the park sometimes. Like, just pay. but we'd be like watching them. Yeah, we'd be looking and be like, oh, they left. Let's let's run over.

Michael Reeves' cardio is very good, is what you're saying. My coach. You can be mad at me for telling you that. I mean, that's just a fact. He is. He's just, he's just. See, I go to the Michael Reeves subreddit, and they all say, like, oh, he's jacked. He's jacked.

He's like, and I've seen the one, like, he has one screenshot of him doing this, but, like, Jack doesn't do anything. But I don't know how often he goes to the gym. People are saying he goes to the gym, like, every day. and I was like, maybe, I don't know. Yeah. I think you guys are doing the same amount, to be honest. I think you should, a little bit younger, you know, a little bit healthier.

I don't know. Sprite. It has a little bit more power. Has it in his jeans, the box. Just naturally gifted. What you were saying, though, it's like, I think it's going through all of our heads, though. Right. Those moments where you're like, what am I doing, man?

Like, we've all, I think we've all had them. It's like, it's not just you. Like. Literally everyone. Michael is feeling that right now. Like, that is happening. No one's like, I could do this. I'd like to go through what his head, like what he would say about me.

Or if he's like, oh, granddad, he's old. He's not going to, you know, his back is hurting. It's not going to. He would probably say that. I think you'd say something like, yeah, he's old. But I don't think he means it. I think it's a little bit of a front. Because I think everyone is, like, everyone that I've talked to candidly has been like, yeah, it's not.

It's not easy. And it's, I'm, I am nervous and all the rest. Everyone's full of shit that actually says that they're, you know, they're confident. Jake Paul, I like kind of believe it because he's gotten to the point where like his confidence has been boosted. Yes. But he talked to him on the, before the first fight candidly. And he'd be like, yeah, I'm pissing myself. Like, for sure.

Sure. Human nature. Yeah. And those bad training days, like, we all have them. Oh, who's fighting first and who's last? I think we're going to have Nathan Barnett Dad versus Matt Watson first. Why? Just because it's like, I think it's, how do I put it?

It's one of the more interesting fights, but I don't think they've spent as much time as some of our other fighters training. So they're like in this kind of middle ground area where it's like most, entertaining, like, a dynamic, because they've done, like, disc tracks and stuff on each other. So it's like, I think it's a good way to start the show. But we don't want to, you know, we don't want to have, like, the biggest names first, obviously. And then obviously the last one is going to be me and Dr. Mike. And then where, where am I going to be? Well, because you guys are, you know, some of the bigger names, we got to have you, like, at least Final Four somewhere, Final four fights.

So you guys are going right before A.B. And Brett. How does that make you feel? Part of me wanted to go first. Really? Like as being, yeah, because then it's, they get it over with. You just kind of like, the rest of the night. Right.

And because I know I'm not going to be able to think or concentrate on anything. Until I go. So part of me thought, well, if I'm first, then at least I enjoy the rest of the night. Yeah. That is good logic. because it is going to be. But then also you don't set, like, there is no standard or precedent.

Like, if everyone's really good, then I feel like there's a bar that needs to be set, and by going first there's no bar. It's just no expectation. It's just going to do it. That's a great point. Yeah, that would be a good reason, if you're not confident in yourself.

Well, I'm just saying you could put us first to get all the people in, and then once they're watching, continue. Okay. Maybe we'll order the, the fights in like weight classes. Yeah, see, that's a good, there we go. Settled.

We'll do that. I think you guys, I think it's going to be a good fight. Thanks. It's going to be a good match. I think so too. All, thanks. Because, I mean, at your weight class, you guys move completely differently.

Like, you're definitely, you're going, you're faster than all of us. We're all in this, like, stupid weight category where we're really slow. And I think you guys will be super entertaining. Cool. Your fight and minks and yodeling Haley, those would be two very,

different fights than what people are used to. Oh, I'm curious. What are you doing to make money during all this? I'm not. You're not making any money? I'm not making any money during this event planning and... Is living off the savings? Yep, living off savings.

There's a little bit of YouTube money trickling in. Only fans? We got Only fans on the back burner that's bringing a little bit in. I mean, it's covering rent and some other expenses. So I got a question for you. NFTs, how many you got? Zero. Oh, no.

Why? Do you have NFTs? No, I don't have any NFTs. Yeah, I don't have any NFTs. No, you're not in the NFD space? I don't get it. Yeah, I don't understand it, no. Yeah, it kind of sucks.

I agree. Yeah, I'd rather... But you are in a little bit in crypto. Yeah, Bitcoin and Ethereum. Yeah. All in Safe Moon. No. No NFTs.

You should get one at NFT, just to appeal to the young crowd. I'm too old for that. I don't get NFTs and I get a lot of the alt coins. I don't understand a lot of that stuff. Have you seen like what Gary V's doing? The V-Friends. Yeah. Yeah, I think it's interesting.

But this is more about the utility behind it of like, if you get this, you could get access to his like conferences and this and that's a network. I at least understand it. Yeah. It's better than a picture of just like some dog. And then, well, now it's going to single doge coin. I'm just like a cat. It doesn't matter.

It's a picture of an animal on it. And it's like it's worth more because it's only 10 of them and it has this animal on it. Yeah. Yeah. That's fair. I think, yeah, Gary V's thing is interesting. Yeah. I went on the website and I was like going through all the different like the V friends.

And it's so funny when you click on like what each one of them does, like a video of Gary pops up and he's like, this is the workout eagle. If you got this, this means that I'll Skype you and we'll do a workout together for 10. minutes. And there's just like a ton of different ones like that. But it makes sense to me. There's a price that someone's willing to pay for a Skype call plus a workout. Oh, totally. How much is it?

But to be able to sell that to somebody else who wants it, you could make your money back and someone else gets it. I think it puts more power in that circumstance to the consumer. Like imagine he just says, hey, for a $1,000 Skype call and workout, pay that, it's done. But if you own the rights to that Skype call and workout, you sell it to somebody else, maybe they're going to pay more, maybe they pay less, but you'll recoup some of your money, he gets some of it back, someone else gets it for what they're willing to pay. That's the weird part about it, though, is like it doesn't, in its form, it's like,

it's supposed to be proving like what this, like, that it's something owned. But if it's like a 10-minute Skype call, it's like, once you use it, it's essentially expired. Like a Group-on. Yeah, it's like a Group-on. So you almost may as well just like have a Kickstarter project or any other website that, essentially promises it doesn't even need to be on a blockchain. Yeah. I mean, yeah, I think NFTs are going to be huge, but not in the sense of like a collectible,

but I could totally see Gucci on every bank that they do is going to be attached to an NFT just to verify that it's authentic. Cars, I think, would go the same way. A lot of stuff that you could do, you could verify authenticity and ownership through an NFT. I don't think it's going to be like the NFT is the value. I think it would be the medium of how you verify things. So it's like, it's good.

but I don't think that's the value. Valid. Well said. That's what I think. And here's the thing, too. Imagine you could have done an NFT for this Critter Clash event. And that's how you get entry. I mean, like, if you buy this NFT, just charge the same price you would for a ticket.

Except they get to keep the NFT. It doesn't cost them anything extra. And, you know, maybe the front row should have, you know, 50, NFTs just for the front row. That's how they get in there. And maybe those are worth more because it turns out to be a fantastic event and just auction them. And then it's literally... Yeah, Coachella did it. And it works. But you would get for those front row 50 states, people are willing to pay whatever the market is. The problem is it feels like they are, it's, it's, I think a lot of people think it's like a limited thing,

but because everything can technically be made into an NFT, I watched like, this seminar was like Quentin Tarantino and like uh like his team of NFT gurus were like talking about like you can make every frame of uh pulp fiction or that one scene an NFT and sell it and that was like most brilliant thing but it's like yeah like is it is it the frame before like what if you make the frame right after it like an N.C as well it's like it's like it's infinite it's value is going to be attached to whatever in the meme itself like with the fucking gun and Samuel Jackson like That's a meme that was created by someone else. It's also an NFD, potentially.

Its value is going to be whatever people think it's going to be. But that's the market price. But where it's sketchy is when people make big promises or this, you can buy this NFT and you're going to flip it. That's the danger. But if someone's doing an NFT and it's attached to it, like if you do it in exchange of a ticket, you get an NFT, that's how you get in.

It doesn't cost anything extra. You're getting something for free that. They can hold on to. Yeah. Yeah. If they care about it. Maybe not. Yeah, I wonder.

Make a video about NFTs. Oh, yeah, I've been working on an NFT video. Have you really? Oh, yeah. Hate the darn things. I'm kind of with you. I'm with you on that. Oh, I don't know.

Probably after the boxing event. Oh, gosh. I'm looking forward to seeing it. Yeah, it's not particularly controversial. It's just the same shit in here. All right, yeah. I'm looking forward to it. Well, thank you guys so much for coming on.

Really appreciate it. Looking forward to it. I guess I'll see you the next time, maybe in Florida. I'll see you boxing day. Prepare for war. All right.

Okay. Thanks so much. What are you going to do to Michael Reeves? Let's end it on this. I'm going to give him a free stock down below in the description when he signs of Republic using the code gram because that stock's worth all the way to $2,000.

You can't do that to his face? What are you going to do to his face? Give him bank broke off. Yeah, I can ban. No, I'm going to show him which stock I got. I'm going to be like, Michael, here's what I got. What are you going to do to Dr. Mike's face? Kiss it.

Well, there we have it. All right. Thank you guys. Thank you. Thank you. All right. Until next time. Bye.