The Iced Coffee Hour - The Secret Life of Ur Mom Ashley | Money, Failure, and Relationships

Episode Date: June 8, 2023

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It would mean a lot. Thank you so much, Streamyard, and on to the episode. I love it down here. I have to say, it's growing up. I was coming down here at first time, what is this spot? There are no windows down here. We're like, I feel like we're two floors below ground, but it's really nice. Yeah, it's a bedroom.

It's a bedroom. It's a bedroom. It's a bedroom. You're telling me, how much does this rent for down here? This room specifically is 2,900. 2,900. No, you get no windows.

You get no windows in here. It's a big room. It's a big room. It is big. It's the size of two New York City apartments. But where's the window? You have no natural sunlight at all. That's the real estate agent in him talking right now.

Yeah. Oh, my gosh. What's the full rent on the house? That's what I'm wondering. The full rent is 16.5. 165. split between five people. But actually, I would say that is very doable for New York City.

Wow. So what is that, like, three grand, basically? Yeah, yeah. Relatively, yeah. Yeah, with some rooms probably paying a little bit more. And we have a backyard, everything, so. It's a cool spot. I think it's pretty, I think it's a good deal.

How is it living with so many people? It's good. I love all my roommates. They're all, like, super chill. We all travel a lot, so, like, our schedules are definitely, like, there's probably only like a few people home at a time, but it's really nice. And it makes it more homey in a way

because I've lived alone a couple of times. And it's nice to come home and have the house be lively, especially here, like there's always something going on. But the house just feels like warm and full. But the living alone whole genre now is really doing well, especially in New York. I know. My fan just, I feel like just pioneered that like living alone in New York City.

Yeah, yeah. Sometimes I'm like, wish I could use that title. You could, I feel like you could just rent a studio for the purpose of like living alone. I know, right. That would be interesting, just a straight business expense to be able to clickbait that. Yeah, living alone in my studio. Like, or seriously, I think just a video title, I moved out, dot, dot, dot would do so well. Even if you just get a studio somewhere else, like, I feel like it's inciting unnecessary drama. Like, people are going to start questioning things. I know. I'm curious, how do you think drama, just in general, has affected your channel?

Is it generally a good thing, or is it like all attention is good attention? Or have you seen negative effects of drama? Yeah. I mean, I try to avoid drama at all costs. So definitely, like, try to avoid it. I think it depends on, like, the type of creator you are. I think there are certain creators that, like, kind of thrive off of it. They use it to grow their channel.

But for me, I think at the end of the day, like, my community, is really the most important. So any drama that I can, like, avoid is always going to be the best. Even if drama brings you more views, like, all of that, I just, I think it's better to just have, like, a nice wholesome community, like, do your life, do your thing, and not try to get into trouble just for the views, I guess. How did you get started with YouTube? So I started in college, my freshman year of college, I was at RPI, which is upstate.

It's Rensler Polytechnic Institute. So I was going there thinking I'm going to do pre-med. I'll probably go to medical school. And although I think I still would have liked that route, I was like, I have this creative side. Ideally, I would like to pursue this more. So I decided, hey, I'm going to do this on top of college. I've always wanted to make videos. I used to make them when I was like 12, 13.

Like I've had my YouTube channel since then and like would post here and there, but never actually like fully committed to it until I would. was in college and then I did that alongside my like biology degree for three years until my junior year of college when I finally decided like I'm going to probably do YouTube full time afterwards and then I switched over to business my last year and graduated with a business degree. Really? Yeah, which is really funny. But at any point did you want to drop out and just like, go 100% YouTube? For sure. Like my sophomore year I would talk to my parents like, I need to drop out. And they were like, no, you've got to stick through this.

Like, they really wanted me to have this kind of like fallback, I guess, just in case or just like more traditionally, I think they just want me to like have my degree. Just be like, she graduated college. And I think I didn't like necessarily need to go to college. But I really enjoyed college still. And I think it taught me a lot of discipline. And also I think from like a YouTube standpoint even, it was more exciting. for me to like show my classes and I would do videos where like I wear certain outfits to school. So it gave me more things to do. And I kind of miss having that structure a little bit now that

I'm out of college actually. But what prompted you to first start making videos? Like why did you first? Yeah. So when I like first, first made videos, I was probably like 12, 13. And it was that era of YouTube where beauty gurus were like popping off. I don't know if you know Bethany Moda, but she was like one of I don't know. She was like one of like the biggest beauty gurus at the time and I loved her videos. And I was like, oh, I just like wanted you something similar. Like I love to like show like when I'm packing for a trip or just things like that. And I just really looked up to her at the time.

So I feel like that's what kind of got me into it initially. Were your parents hesitant about you like YouTube at like 12, 13 years old? 12.13? That's like 6th, 7th grade. I know. Yeah. That's why I mean, that's why I didn't ultimately like continue it. I think I mean like 10 videos.

And then... Do your parents know about that, though? They did. Oh, they did? And were they okay with those TV videos online? My mom was kind of like, like, this is kind of sketch. Like, random, like, old men can watch her videos.

Like, but, yeah. Mostly it just, I don't know, got in the way of school. I had my sports. And then I just kind of, like, fell off until I later decided that I wanted to. But even then initially, my parents were still like, hey, shouldn't you be focusing on, like, your classes? and like your medical, like, all of that stuff. So, yeah.

But now they're very proud. I think they just didn't, like, understand, like, initially, like, that YouTube could be a job. And, I mean, I Loki didn't even know that either. I was just doing it because I thought it was fun. But now they're, like, my biggest supporters of it ever. So what sort of videos were you making in college? In college, I made a lot of, like, halls, actually. I think that's what started my channel.

And that's what kind of, like, brought people to my channel because they were more. searchable. So I would do like, here's like a spring hall or like a hall from like a specific brand. My first video that like ever popped off was a Vans collection video actually. So I showed like all my shoes. That's my first video to hit a million views. And I think that's like what kind of like kickstarted everything. What's the appeal to watching a haul video? Because for me like I'm thinking like if I'm perusing the YouTube algorithm and I see something like my spring hall, I would like like, I don't know if that's something I would really like be super enticed. I mean maybe I'm thinking. I'm thinking. I'm Probably just not the target.

That I might, like, I'm kidding. That's just. So what is the appeal to something like that? Because I'm sure you probably consume that content. Yeah. So, I mean, even now, I think there was a time and a place where halls were really popular. I don't think at the moment they're super popular anymore. But the reason why I think people would watch them is because they would be like,

oh, I'm going to buy things from, like, Princess Polly, for example. And then you can go on a hall and see what someone else bought off that website that, that looked good and you can see it worn on a person. And then you can kind of go, oh, actually, like, I'm going to add that to my cart. Just shopping purposes. It's literally for just shopping purposes, pretty much. But what I did actually was I used to fill my halls with my siblings

because I would watch halls and be like, actually, these are really boring. Because, like, low-key, like, a hall, like, is kind of boring. And I was like, I want to, like, do halls that are fun, that people also just watch, like, just because they're a fun video. So I would do halls that, like, had my siblings in them and, like, were really like, we would just be like messing around. Like it would be kind of like a vlog, but like centered around like occasionally like showing pieces, which is like a really interesting setup.

But like that is how I like started my channel though originally. And I haven't done that same structure in a long time. But that's like how I started. How much did you make from the video that did a million views? At that point, I was not monetized. So I made nothing. And when I actually started YouTube, they were kind of like updating the partner program terms. So I remember I grinded YouTube for like a full year, like three videos a

week and I never got paid until I was like a year or more into YouTube, like probably over 100K subs. Really? So you got 100,000 subs in your first year doing YouTube? Yeah. What was the motivation to keep going when you weren't making any money from it? And you were in college as well, so I'm assuming it was probably a pretty like intense schedule. Yeah. I literally think it was just like something in me was just like self like discipline to be like you like told yourself you're going to do this like you better do it like or i even i remember when i started in college specifically like emma chamberlone was popping off so she was definitely like another um like inspiration for me i was like oh like i love her vlogs like i feel like i could do something similar i remember like watching her videos and

being like i'm going to start youtube in the first year i will get 300 000 subscribers and like that didn't happen but like i came a third of the way so yeah And I think also like the community and comments and having people kind of like uplift you definitely like pushes you to keep posting as well. So how much were you making at the time you graduated college? At the time I graduated college, I mean, I was making it enough to decide, hey, I'm going to be full time. I rented out my own apartment. I'm like trying to think of exactly how much I made. I was saying as a creator, like the amount you make is like pretty exponential for the most part, especially like as you're initially growing.

But definitely six figures by the time that I graduated college. Impressive. So there's no desire at all to, like, get a job or take that. Did your parents pressure you at that point to be like, well, you could still just, you know, pursue medicine? No. Sometimes my mom will still as a joke be like, medical school. I'm like, I'm good, mom. But, no, at that point, they were like, if what's working is working and like keep doing what you're doing.

Although before we go into that, hold on one sec. Where's Jack? Yo, what's up, Graham? I'm so sorry I couldn't make it again, man. I'm actually here in New York trying to find funding for my new genius business idea. Basically, it's like any other dating app, except when my profile shows up, they have to swipe right or else they get banned. What do you think? Pretty smart, huh? Jack, that's the dumbest. Anyways, dude, even though this is like clearly Fortune 500 level stuff, I'm really struggling to find funding. Jack, we've been through this. You should look instead to today's sponsor, Fund and Grow. Fund and Grow is unique funding alternative with far fewer restrictions than traditional bank loans. With their 12-month membership, you could access up to $250,000 of credit at 0% interest, all while retaining full equity in your company. And as a special offer for our listeners, Fund and Grow has prepared a business funding masterclass that uncovers the five steps to getting up to $250,000 in business credit. And don't just take our word for it. Over 4,000 customers have given Fund and Grow 4.9 star reviews. Plus, as an exclusive bonus, you'll get a $500 discount on their services. So don't

wait to Fund and Grow your business. Visit Fund and Grow down below in the description to get started the day. And now what that said, let's get to the podcast. So then what'd you do after college? I lived in Troy, which is very barren and boring, actually. I don't know where Troy is. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I like it because it's like kind of my hometown, but I live there by myself for maybe like six months. And then it was just like, I mean, I'm still my hometown. So I'm kind of like I feel like I really need to change of pace. And then after that six months, I eventually moved to New York afterwards. When did you notice your content really taking off? And why do you feel like people started to subscribe to you? I feel like my content really started taking off probably in 2019,

so maybe like a year and a half or two after I started like initially posting. I was doing a lot of college videos, which like unfortunately right when I was like, oh, my college videos are doing so well was like COVID. And I was like, seriously. But I think like what Drew people to the videos were like probably a sense of like relatability. I was a college student at the time. So a lot of my videos were kind of focused around that. But I also show my family a lot. That's also like a huge trait in my video. So I think that's also like something that people kind of come to see because it's like our little group, our little family and people get attached to everyone and we just have like our jokes and our moments and we share like, I mean we share like very intimate life moments like low key on my channel. I feel like.

definitely that. If so I was trying to build an actual community, right? Like fans rather than just casual viewers. Okay. How do you take someone from being a casual viewer to being like a hardcore fan? Yeah.

I think, I actually haven't done this in a while, but I think things like podcasts, like this one right now, like are really helpful to kind of like give people more like in-depth view of who you are. Or I also used to do streaming and that's really, really good. Yeah, on Twitch.

I did Twitch during COVID for like six months. What was the motivation? every day. I just kind of wanted to try it. Also, I think I was like really burnt out of editing, so I was like streaming. But it was also like a really cool way to like be super present with your community because like they're literally like in chat and you like can talk to them. How long were you streaming for? Like what was a day?

I? I, like, when I like was really streaming, I would stream like five days a week for like four hours a day. What was it? What was it stream about? Crazy. Sometimes we'd be playing Among Us. Among Us? You were Among Us? With that van, it was like, oh, man. That's the only game to play. Okay. That's the one of the game I know how to play. So once Among Us fell off, I was like, goodbye Twitch. That's all I got. But, or I would do, like, just chatting or, like, I would edit or like. Oh, you'd actually be editing a video and, like, casually talking about. Yeah. Yeah. Interesting.

So it'd be really chill. I've noticed that definitely amongst Twitch streamers, that they have, like, very diehard fan bases. And it's hard for a lot of people, especially the people that do, like, spectacle, content. content on YouTube to really connect with their audience, especially if it's more like scripted out content. So they can have a ton of viewers and a ton of subscribers, but not very many fans. But one thing I've noticed about Twitch specifically is that Twitch creators like, I mean, you go on their Instagram and they're like engagement ratio or engagement rate is like, it's like 40%. Like they have like 300,000 followers on Instagram and they're getting a hundred and and yeah. So it's really interesting. Yeah. And you notice that to be really positive for you and growing your fan base.

Yeah, yeah, for sure. I definitely, like, those are things I kind of haven't done in a minute, but that I'm like, oh, I really want to do that again in the future just because it was like made me, for one, feel closer to my community, but also, I think just, like made everyone feel like the community was really there. How do you be on so much? Because I feel like, at least for me, it's like a constant. When the camera's recording, there's always a bit in the back of my mind

where I'm like, I'm thinking of what I should be saying, and I know I have to be present for the camera, I can't like, you know. That was definitely the most straining thing about streaming that made me kind of realize this isn't something I can do as often as I thought because it is like kind of exhausting to be like aware like for that long. But honestly like if you're like gaming like with other people like the hours pass like you don't even notice.

But once you are just sitting there by yourself and like chatting to a screen it is a little more noticeable. Yeah. And what was it like then to move into a house with other YouTubers? Yeah, I mean, it was so cool. I feel like I didn't have like a work, like group or like co-workers, I guess, you might say. So it kind of felt like, oh, I finally have coworkers. I finally have people that like really understand my lifestyle that I can ask for advice and ask for questions and like just all kind of grow together.

And it's kind of like if someone makes a mistake, then like all of us learn from it. So it's just like the amount that you learn is more exponential. And I feel like I can really trust everyone's advice. like we'll always be like, how does this thumbnail look? Or like, can you help me do this on Photoshop and things like that? So I think it was like super, super helpful. And also just like coming to New York in general was definitely like, I don't know, such like a big like helpful move for me I felt.

Because if I didn't move, I'd probably like still be upstate doing God knows what. But yeah. What is it about New York that so many people are drawn to? Because it seems like there is something different here that a lot of people like it. And it's so much different than anything that I've really seen or experience. Yeah. I mean, I think it's definitely just like you come here and there's like a certain energy of people grinding and working hard, which can sometimes be like a little exhausting.

But I think like if you have like the right personality that kind of like meshes with it, it's like helps you kind of do the same thing. But I really like the walkability. That's something that I really, really like about New York is how. close everything is, and I think there's so many opportunities, and especially other creators. So, just like the community here, I think, as well. It doesn't seem like there's anything leisure here. Have you noticed that?

Like, there's very little relaxation. Interesting. I'm now thinking, and I don't think I've seen anything. Like, there are parks and stuff, but I don't know if people, like, really go and, like, chilling parks. When I was in the park, everyone's, like, running. People are, like, hustling, like, playing, like a violin or something. Yeah.

Everyone's busy and has a place to be. L.A., I feel like there's a bit more of like a relaxed, carefree vibe. Vegas is very much, I think, like, do nothing. Like, where, we're... Yeah, well, it depends where you go. On the strip, everyone's, like, on vacation. So you're not going to get anyone really, like, working, except if they work there. Yeah.

Then off of the strip, it's just quite... Suburban areas in general, I feel like it's kind of hard to, like, feel like a ton of pressure. Because there's not very much noise. It's not like there's, like, people walking around, cars honking everywhere, you know, like, pushing you to go. It's a slow pace. It is. Yeah. Interesting.

That's, yeah, it took me a few days to figure out like why you have this desire to like keep working and going harder here. And I think it's because everyone else is like out and about. Yeah. Always someone working and it makes you want to work. Yeah. I'm curious about the content houses because Graham and I have kind of realized recently that we need to do a better job at networking.

Like we kind of generally stay in our little bubble and we have people in our bubble that we're very close to. but it's very rare that we leave this bubble and like meet new people, which opens up new opportunities and new doors. I feel like content houses are a fantastic way, just in general. You want to start one. Yeah. I mean, I got a place in Vegas and I moved in a bunch of people that are like young entrepreneurs.

And I definitely have found myself benefiting from being in a space with other people, like minded people. What has your experience been with being in a content house? How has that positively or negatively affected your? just success in general. Yeah. And would you recommend it to people that are trying to be good at YouTube? Yeah, I mean, I think there are tons of pros and cons.

I think as like a YouTuber specifically, it can be such an isolating job that it's like amazing to like find a group of people that have the same job as you and then you can like actually like I said feel like you have coworkers. But at the same time, I think pretty much every content house that I have ever seen has like pretty much failed or like has not like lasted for very long. or eventually like kind of fizzles out in a way. I feel like there is always drama involved. So I feel like it's good if you're like,

I feel like it's an experience that you kind of have to be like, do I want to sign up for this? And it's definitely good. It's a learning experience. You get to meet new people. I think it definitely helps for like growth for everyone in the group. But with that being said, everyone in the group probably does not have like the same ideas or just butt heads or whatever else happens.

Is the hype house still a thing? Is that still going or no? Hypo house is not a thing anymore? No, I think they had a whole like Netflix series about how it kind of... I can't join them, man. I thought it was just the founder. Like the founder of something was not giving them good deal. A lot of the times the people that found the houses are not even like the people in the house.

It's like some random CEO of some company. That's got a ton of money and gets like a bunch of like 18 year old kids all to like pile up in a house. Why are you laughing at him? Just laughing at the idea, though. Like, piling a bunch of 18-year-old people in a house and just seeing what happens. Maybe not seeing what happens. There's probably some, like, business acumen and reason behind doing it. That sounds like it goes against everything you would learn in, like, a business.

It does. It does. But, yeah, that was, yeah. Just get teenagers together with a cell phone, have them post. Exactly. Monetized. Throwing some sponsors. You're good to go.

Yeah, I think what happened in the hype house was like they had, I feel it was like a bang energy. they're like, you need to post the bang energy sponsorships. Oh, yeah, put the energy in the back. Yeah, no one would do it. I remember that. Like, oh, like, guys, just post the sponsorship and, like, no one would film or, like, they're all just, like, doing their own thing. I thought they were just like, was that the, that was the group TikTok, right? Where they were supposed to do, like, a group TikTok for bang energy?

Maybe, I have no idea. Or, like, maybe they had individual. It was supposed to, like, to dance? It was a bang energy thing. Yes. Bang energy broke the high house. Pretty much. So they put a bang energy in the background.

of like everything. So like you, when you see like the dance of the, like, I don't know how to do it. Correct. But like, but like they're doing like that, like whatever. There's a band energy drinking the back. Yeah. Just didn't do that. They just didn't do it.

Which part of the reason why is like they're 18. They have like not a lot of discipline. Like, listen, they're highly successful. But yes. But when you put them together in a room and they have to do a sponsorship of like a deadline, there's very little discipline to get that done. I don't know what bang energy was paying. But anyway.

Probably a bag. Probably. We should get the CEO of Bang Energy on. I hear he's a character. Yeah, he said, I mean, I would be down. That would be funny. I'm sure it would be a very interesting episode. Yeah.

Did you guys ever do anything with Bang Energy? No. That wasn't cool, though, I guess. No. I wish. You just ended it. No. Cool.

I did. I want to know because, I mean, we've talked a little bit about like where you came from. Yeah. How you've become successful. but what you do, you do it extremely well. Like I've noticed you have a very dedicated following. You have obviously a very successful YouTube channel. I want to know what you would describe are the most pivotal moments in your career.

The decisions are opportunities that were presented to you that I would say made the most stark changes in your career. Cool. I think, well, I mean, definitely starting my YouTube channel. That's the first one. I think actually, like, when I sign my manager, just because most YouTubers have, like, management that helps them do things, signing a manager for me was so incredibly helpful just to kind of have them, like, take some of the workload off of me and, like, negotiate things for me. I feel like that really also made me feel like, hey, like, this is pretty legit. Like, this can be my job.

And I think from there, I took it a lot more seriously once I had been signed. I think another big decision for me was switching to a business major. Because then that kind of decision really solidified for me that, like, hey, your job is going to be YouTube. Let's switch to a business major so that maybe some of what you learn in school could actually help you after college. But also at my college, it was like really STEM-based. So I ended up like doing mostly data analytics like in Excel.

So I was like, did it really help? Like, I don't know. But I think overall, probably the biggest thing for me was actually just moving to New York. Like, I think it really opened me up to more creators. And as someone that had been mostly a college YouTuber, I think I, like, I could have probably just fallen right off. Like, right after graduating college, I mean, like, the same month I graduated college, I hit a million subs. And I kind of was like, hey, like, I just did all the things I wanted to do. What's next? And then just kind of, like, didn't have as much motivation for it for, for, like, a few months.

just felt kind of lost. I think moving to New York and feeling the energy here and meeting new people is like really what kind of like kickstarted me to like really continue with my channel in the way that I am now. So moving to New York was actually like one of the most impactful things. And then what about getting a manager? Like how do you find a manager? Because I know a lot of managers can be extremely exploitative towards their clients just in general. It's like kind of a negative connotation with talent management in general.

How do you find your manager? What exactly does management entail? Yeah, so my manager, like, he just like pretty much email me was like, I'm from this talent agency. Do you want to hop on a call and we can chat about it? So it's like very chill. And you basically like kind of do like a three month trial. And then from there you'll have like a rolling, not like subscription, but like you'll just like resign. There's some sort of like what management fee or something? No, not subscribe. I shouldn't have said subscription. But like the contract just like continually like updates every like however long. But so how it kind of works is like your manager will like field all your emails and things like that. I'm trying to think what else or what did you ask another question? Yeah like what does it like entail to have a manager? Like how did that affect you exactly? Yeah, I think so once I had a manager, I mean he definitely like if I'm working with brands,

he actually knew what rate I deserved. and I was probably like, I would literally do a haul like just for the free clothes. Like I did hella halls like give me the free clothes. And like I was like super happy with that but I was definitely like really

undervaluing myself as a creator. So my manager was kind of like hey like these are your rates. Like we're going to make sure that you get good rates. And since it's like a talent agency he also kind of like would just help out with like strategy or like

I guess like publicity, like in a way and making sure that like we're growing and staying on top of things. But also I think once I started signing like more brand deals here and there, I definitely like had to make sure that my cadence of posting videos was very consistent. I didn't want to have too many branded videos. So I would always make like two or three non-branded videos for every branded video that I did. And I think that also is what made me consistent enough for like my YouTube channel to grow. So it's kind of interesting to be like, oh, like, taking a sponsorship is like literally like would keep me on track to like keep doing YouTube. But it really kind of like gave me a schedule and like pushed me to just be like, got to keep rolling, got to keep doing all these things. But yeah.

I think it was my fam who is saying that when she gets a sponsorship that she likes, it'll give her inspiration for the idea for the video. Oh yeah, absolutely. So she's like, all right, I got this brand. What can I do with that? that'll make a really fun video. And then she builds it around that, which I think is really cool. Yeah, I feel like I definitely do the same thing because I like to make sure that things are like super well integrated.

And I'll, of course, like, only take a brand deal if it's something that, like, I love. So usually I'm super excited about it. And then I'll be like, hey, like, what can I do to kind of like formulate a video around this specifically? Like a video that I'm working on actually right now was like with the jewelry company. And it's kind of like near Valentine's Day. So I'm like, oh, like, what can I do to like make a video?

And, like, I didn't have this video idea until I had been pitched this, like, brand deal. But I was like, oh, okay, like, I'm going to get Kelly a necklace and, like, surprise him, like, in the airport for Valentine's Day and, like, all of this different stuff. So, definitely, like, can sometimes make for more fun videos, which is really cool. Yeah. How do you decide what to post and how vulnerable to be on camera? It's definitely hard. I think Loki's been, like, trial in the air. error. Like, sometimes, like, I'll say things. And if I, like, just don't feel, like, good about it later,

then I'm like, okay, the next time I know, like, hey, like, keep more things private, like, set more boundaries. But I would say, for the most part, I am a pretty open book. And there's not much that I actually won't talk about. I feel like I don't really actively think about it too much. I just, I think I just, like, hey, I'm going to keep this private. It's private. But most things are not private. Is there anything you regret posting or being more public about? Looking back? I don't think so. I know like in the past, like I had like another like relationship.

And when that relationship ended, I was like, oh my God, I had this bro in like the hell of videos. And like now now I have to like archive them or something. So definitely like I think in those situations you can be like, oh, like I regret doing that. But actually don't like I don't. I like to be vulnerable. And I kind of realized like at that point for why. I was like, I'm never going to show my relationships, like, ever again. And then actually just, like, completely came back on my word.

I was like, hey, like, I want to show my life. Like, I want to be vulnerable. Like, and whatever happens, like, I'll deal with the consequences. But, like, I want to show my life. And I don't want to, like, hide a big part of my life either. Did you ever undelete those old videos with the X? Or did you just keep them unlisted? Amazon presents Jeff versus Taco Truck Salsa.

whether it's Verde, Roja, or the orange one. For Jeff, trying any salsa is like playing Russian roulette with a flamethrower. Luckily, Jeff saved with Amazon and stocked up on antacids, ginger tea, and milk. Habaniero? More like habanier, yes. Save the everyday with Amazon. I think some of them are unlisted, and I think some of them are still up. I remember after we broke up, I was like,

you can always go through with the YouTube editor now and just blur them out. You could. Just blur them out. That's shade. Yeah. That would be funny or you try to cut around it. So what's your plan for growth for your YouTube channel? How are you going to take it to the next level?

What's your overall like? YouTube channel. Yeah, what's your overall situation going on right now? I mean, I feel like I kind of take it day by day. Sometimes I try to like think about it too much, and then I'm just like you get it over your head or like you overanalyze it. And I think it's better for me to just be like, I'm going to keep making videos that make me excited that I like to do and not focus as much on like the numbers as much or like let it get in my head. But I definitely think I want to do more like idea-based videos going forward.

I do a lot of vlogs, but I think what brings more new viewers to my channel are like kind of idea-based videos. And by like idea-based, I just mean like not travel vlogs. or like not daily vlogs, but maybe like, I just did one where I was like, oh, trying every matcha in New York City. And that's something that like someone that doesn't know me might click on. Is it you drinking now? I am drinking a matcha right now.

Is this a part of the video? Or is this like just, you just got a matcha? I just got a matcha. Okay. Yes. But I actually, I had not gotten it from this place before and I also didn't get it in the video. But it's pretty good.

Is it the best? That would have made such a good short. If you'd said trying every pizza in New York City and just like every second is a bite. I've had to wait so much bite, bite, bite, bite, bite. This is so unhealthy. This one is pretty good, bite, bite, bite. Yeah, but I love matcha.

I'm working on actually starting a matcha company. Oh, really? Yes. What's the goal with that? The goal is, I love matcha, and I'm like, what better product could I do than this? But yeah, I've always kind of, I mean, I'm, like, working on merch right now, which I think will, like, launch maybe, like, every season. So I'm excited about that as well But I'm really, really excited about doing

Macha, I realize, like, if, like, in my videos, I drink it, like, all the time. It's, like, really within my branding. And it's something that, like, I genuinely enjoy and I think that would be, like, super fun. But also, I guess the goal is I also want to diversify outside of YouTube as much as I can. So trying to do a little real estate,

try to do a little Masha. Not really real estate, but I am about to close. was on a house. Really? Yes. Congratulations. Thank you. Where, like what? Here, which is in New York, which is a little scary, but I was like, you know what? I like New York. Is it like what? Like an apartment? Yes, it's an apartment. I always, I like to say house because it makes me feel like I can justify how expensive it is, but it is literally just like an apartment. I love this place that I have here now and maybe like potentially like I could renew like the lease here and like still live with roommates, but I really want to have another space.

that has good lighting because this place does not have good lighting, like, at all. And the place that I am working on, closing on has, like, beautiful lighting. So I'm like, okay, I can spend, like, part of my time there, have another place that's, like, kind of like my own personal home. If I really want to say, living alone in New York City, I can do that. Yeah. Wow. But, yeah, just like another place that has really nice lighting.

And maybe my sister will come live there with me as well. And that's cool. It seems like home renovation content is starting to come back in style. Do you have any plans of like fixing it up? Those would make great videos. Like yeah, who's the one guy? Lone Fox, Lone Fox Wolf? I follow him on Instagram. His designs are incredible. And he goes, yeah, he bought this whole building in Los Angeles like a 1920s building and he turned it in something incredible. But doing something like that, like a kitchen remodel. Yeah. I don't know about remodeling. My co-op board has the craziest fee for remodeling. They're like, if you do your kitchen, you have to put down the $10,000 down payment and we keep half. And I was like, what? Oh, why?

If you like damage anything in the building? I guess so. But so I think probably not renovations, but I think decorating for sure. And was the reason that you wanted to buy mostly, like a financial decision? Like you thought it would probably be smart to build equity in a place in New York? Yeah. That definitely is my main reason. Sometimes I'm like, wait, why am I doing this again?

And I'm like, it's just, like, actually just, like, have something that's, like, a good asset to have. But definitely I also just really like New York. I see myself staying here for a long time. So I'm like, okay, it makes sense to me that, like, I have a place. And also, I think it's fun for content as well to be like, ooh, new apartment, decorating. People love the environment tours. Honestly, if you just moved every year, these videos just do so well. People do that.

They do. Yeah, all the time. So painful, but it is good for content, yes. Just keep doing that. Does the goal have an HOA, or how does that work? Yes, it does. Very high HOA. Can I ask what it is?

Mine is 2,600. Whoa. But I get 60% of it back, which I'm really... How do you get a back in? Is it probably... I'm guessing, no, it wouldn't be reserves. I really have no idea. but very high HOA, but then

they said, oh, no, you actually get like annually, you get 60% of all the HOA that you paid back. And I'm like, why don't I just pay like 40% and not do that? My guess is that they need a certain amount of reserves by the end of every year. And then if they don't use it, they give it back to you,

but there might be a repair that they need the money. That's my only guess, but I'm not. For like an assessment maybe, I'm not sure, but... Maybe. I don't know. We don't really do co-ops in California or Vegas, but it's way more common here because the price of real estate is just so high. Yeah, speaking of HOA,

they raised the HOA in my community. Mine got raised too. Are you serious? What's wrong with this? I don't know what's happening. Mine was raised. I think it was like almost $100 a month raised. No. Are you going to send them a letter?

You know what? Part of me thinks this would be a great video and I'm really, part of me is worried about it. Part of me thinks would be a great video. Mm-hmm. Going over their budget and reacting to it. I would love that. I think that's hilarious. You explain, like, HOAs and everything, and then...

I was told the car. The car they patrol the area in, which is probably like... Are you a building or...? No, it's not a building. It's like a gated community. Okay, okay. So there are probably, my guess is maybe like 500 homes in this story. Maybe a few hundred homes. I don't know. But they had this car that just like goes around constantly with little lights on the back. It looks like a Ford Focus or something like this.

Like a Google cover? I'm told someone reviewed the documents. guess how much that car is per year to lease. They're paying this every single year to lease it. It's a fourth focus. I'm going to say some egregious number, 15,000, 20,000. To lease the Ford Focus. What do you think?

It's a Ford Focus. So this is probably a $30,000 car. Yeah. Maybe the car market's high. Maybe $35,000 to buy the car outright. Just to lease it, like not even like including the person driving it or anything. No, just the car itself. For year?

For year. It's a $30,000 car. I mean, now I feel like I should say like $20,000 just to say something crazy. You want to hear crazy? Yeah. $40,000 a year. That is the cost of this car. Do they have multiple?

They should have a Lamborghini. How? They'd very well could at that price, actually. $40,000 a year. That's a good question if they have multiple. I only see one of them at a time. Maybe they have two. But still, even two.

We're talking realistic. statistically, $500 a month per car. So it should be, let's say you have three of them, $18,000 a year for three of them. But then you, okay, insurance, right, gas and stuff like that. $25,000. $40,000. I don't get it. The surveillance in my neighborhood is $200,000 for my neighborhood.

Per year? But your neighborhood is huge. My neighborhood's big. But his is huge. It's a big neighborhood. But still, I was thinking, I was looking at that. And I was looking at my HOA docs, and they're, like, pulling in, like, seven figures a year. I would love to, I would love to review it.

And, but I do, I realize HOA's, like, if you are on the bad side of that, you're, like, blacklisted. You, like, they will make your life awful. And so it's like, do you really want to go up for what? Like, you get a funny video out of it, and people are like, oh, look at a $20,000 or $40,000 car. Is that worth it? I don't know. Because all of a sudden, then, they're like, hey, Graham, here's a. notice your car is too loud

and you have to remove it from our premises because it doesn't need to definitely just wage war against the HOA I don't want to move that's the thing then it's like because they would have the right as the HOA they supersede me you know I could complain but like

at the end of the they have the final say do you bite the hand that feeds probably not but still 40 grand crazy yeah I think it would be great if I get on that HOA and just like straight cut and cost.

Like how much, like the car. Yeah, that doesn't make sense. We have Lucky Lopez get us like a $5,000 on a car. This guy, he literally was planning on attending an HOA board meeting to complain about... That's funny. What was it? The weights in the gym. The weights in the gym of the community he's in.

Okay, so the weights end at 50 pounds, and I thought they should end at 70. And I thought it would be a great use of capital if we could just increase the weights at the gym. That would be fair. And oh, my gosh, and I was even going to plan it. like the residents would live longer with the higher weights, and therefore they'd be able to make more money. So I thought it was a good investment in the future. That's a great...

And more people would want to move there if the rest... Because they have not only more higher weights, but also because the residents were in better shape. That's genius. And they had bigger muscles, so they'd entice more people. Right, it's like marketing. It's advertising. It's great marketing.

We have 70-pound dumbbells. Yes, but also look at them... Strong residents as well. Yeah, everyone looks like liver-gings is why. I'm just trying. Gras and a backpack. Everyone's just carrying the barbells, like up and down the street.

That's smart, man. It was. That's a really good idea. Pitch it to him. I think so. I like it. But yeah, they came out with this rule now where you can't park on the street

after 10 p.m. Oh. So all the cars have to be fit. So here's the thing. They said their preference was that all cars be parked in the garage. So you can't even, like, park in the drive.

in the garage unless the garage is inaccessible or like unusable for whatever reason and then you could park it in the driveway but like the goal is to get all cars out of sight after 10 p.m. Wow, that is very specific. Yeah. Interesting. What was the point of a driveway, you know? Oh, and then they also limited the size of the car that you could have parked in front of your house. Hmm.

Yeah, so they wanted to prevent people from having like the big vans or like, you know, little buses or stuff like that parked in their driveway, which I was never bothered by. I don't know who's bothered by it. They said the aesthetics are off. Probably. Yeah, there's a height requirement on that. And there is actually, they did enact a decibel sound

for your car's exhaust. What, H-O-A are you living in, man? This is crazy. I'm being serious, though. Honestly, a decibel requirement for the car. Yeah, but are they actually going to accost somebody who's, like, driving their car? The thing is, no.

but they create a system where they could do anything they want to. They could find something. So if they don't like you, they could say, well, you drive that car and it's a little bit too loud, and we're going to go, we'll enforce it on you. But the other guy is cool. We don't have to do that, but we'll do it on you. Wow. So they create an environment where you have to play by their rules.

So that's why I'm like, do I really want to go up against it and like, yeah. Probably not, but it would make a great video. True. They're going to be like, we are going to increase Graham's fee. Exactly. $300 and only him. I don't know.

For me, it's just the cost if we could figure out where we're wasting money and bring it back down. Because then I worry, this was an issue with Los Angeles, is that there were, not HOAs, but city services and things like this that would be taxpayer funded,

but then the money would go to somebody who's like running the company who's friends with the person who set it up. I'll give you an example. There was a homeless shelter in Los Angeles. And I think the rent was like $60,000 to $80,000 a month. Someone investigated this, and it turned out the person who owns the homeless shelter that they're leasing for like $80,000 a month, was friends with someone on the city board. And the rent was twice market value.

And they never actually set it up. So they're spending twice the market value. It's worth $40,000. He's getting $80. And it's empty. And it was never used as a homeless shelter. And there's a lot of stuff. So, like, what if someone on the HOA board is friends with the person who's leasing the car for $40,000?

I'm like, there's maybe conflict of interest. That's a good point right there. I don't know. You should investigate. I don't know where it's going. That's a good video right there. That would be like a coffeezilla style video where, like, you have to fall on. You versus your own HOA.

No, what that is is like an Idubs type video. New style Idubs video. I like it. I don't want to move. I don't want to move. I like where I'm at. I'm just curious, you know. That's all.

I'm curious. Join the HOA. Become one of them. Become one. Imagine for the video. Start raising on Jeremy. Imagine for the video, though, like, I joined the HOA to infiltrate. That would be so good, dude.

That would be so good, like, getting down the grass. I love that video idea. Or propose, like, ridiculous for us and see what thought that way. I would love that idea. No, because everyone has to vote on it. You can never get anything ridiculous. I'm just curious. about some of the contracts.

This is not to scare you out of your apartment that you're buying with HOA. Yes. I'm sure you're gonna be just fine. I know what I'm getting into us, okay? They don't need patrol artists. They don't need that. Luckily.

Let's talk about, I ask every guest this. If your income is made of a pie. Yes. How are the slices looking? If we're to assign a percentage on each slice, where is it coming from? I don't know why I use the pie. pie analogy, but it's just what I do.

Can you say pizza? Sure, if it's a pizza, what are the slices? Well, no, because a pizza, the slice is supposed to be even. Pie, you cut your own slice, it can be a big slice, small slice. Oh, that's, yeah, true. Oh. So how's that? I'm going to be like, this is 76.13%.

Exactly. Yeah. Well, I would actually probably say 25% ad sense and 75% brand deals. that is what I would say. So I think majority brand sponsorships for sure just because like

I feel like ad sense rate is like it's okay but like it's not super good. Also I mean just as like a vlogger channel I mean I think like my like RPM

like CPM is like pretty decent but there's definitely other genres out there that are probably better but yeah I'm working on on merch and macha, like I said. So hopefully those will become slices of the pie, but for now it's really just like AdSense brands.

So looking to diversify for sure. Yeah. And is increasing the income one of the, like a primary goal of yours right now? Or is it mostly just to continue to build sustainably and then potentially dip into other things? It's definitely, I feel like my primary goal is always just to like continue growing on YouTube and doing what I love. love and building that community there.

But I do think it is always like an interesting bonus to be like, holy crap, like your income can grow with that. And definitely, just for also safety reasons, I do want to dip into other things, just because I feel like I do have faith that YouTube will last a long time. But at the end of the day, like, you never know. So I think it would be really cool to like have a brand that could potentially, even like start as my brand. Something like Mach, I feel like I could start similar to like merch, like use some of my,

own, I guess, like star power in a way to kind of kickstart the business. But I do think it's also a business that I could have that is just a business that maybe people buy from and don't even know who I am down the line. Do you have the infrastructure set up for that? Like, do you already have like it planned out, like everything kind of ready to roll out? Or is just an idea that now that you're working on? It's something that I'm in the process of. So we're definitely trying to still figure out like logistics and things like that. But I've really, gotten to the point where like I've tried to source some different machas figuring out like what people's like roles are going to be who I'm going to work with and things like that so it's still

it's still getting there but I want to launch it by this year though for sure yeah I'd notice with bankroll coffee the coffee itself doesn't have a lot of margin but the accessories do like if you were to sell really okay cool it might be different for matcha yeah but coffee beans are expensive yeah It's like a price point where people don't want to pay above like $12 to $14 or like a bag of premium coffee. Yeah. And so that kind of caps it out. But straws are great. Really?

Cups are fantastic if you have like a branded cup. Mm-hmm. Oh, gosh. We have ice cube trays, which do really well. I don't know if that would work for macha. I mean, I think all those things would probably work similarly. Cup. I know people will even like like like tote bag, frother for matcha actually something as well.

But definitely little things like that. would be cool. But that helps. And those are a little cool upsells. So like for our coffee, we'll kind of break even on the coffee. But then at checkout, hey, if you want to deal on this and throw this in, it's like that will kind of make up for it. Yeah, definitely looking into matcha, like, because I'm just like, I know I want to do like ceremonial grade. Like make sure it's like really good or like top of the line from Japan, all these different things. And matcha ends up being so expensive for just like the tiniest little bit. So even if you buy like a little tin, like, probably like the market rate is like, I see people sell for like $24 for like a little

tin, but it does last like forever. I think it'd be amazing. If you actually went to Japan and like made a whole thing on this. That would be cool. That is the goal. What was the one that the Breaking Bad Miss Call? Oh. Like those.

Dos. Yeah. Yeah. They had a really cool story where they like went to Mexico and it shows them like going through and like meeting people and figuring out like the culture and the history behind. did it and like, that, I think, if you applied that to Wichita and like going to Japan, trying it out, like learning who makes it, like, who's behind it and like really the art and the graph

and the history behind it and like, and you find some like a story behind a really cool supplier there or like someone who makes it out of passion. Yeah. It's really in it. It's like, you know, 20 generations in, it's like just doing this one thing. I don't know. No, but it's so cool. No, I like it did. Like a tea ceremony.

Yeah, but then it's like something special. And it's not just like, hey, I got a macha. This is cool because I like it. But there's like this cool history behind it. And people are going to be curious. Like, why is that one the best? Yeah. And you can be the best.

Exactly. Yeah. No, it's definitely, I've never been to Asia, like, ever in my life. So I would love to go to like Korea or Japan, especially Japan to look at matcha and everything. So it would be really cool. I would do that. Yeah. I think if you're going to do it, I'd say do that and find like a good supplier.

Yeah, yeah. It would be cool. Definitely language barrier will be hard, but I will. We'll figure it out. And I can be part of the video too. Yeah, yeah. I'll get a translator. That's cool.

Is there any who you wanted to discuss? Yes, wait, Graham, I actually have a surprise for you. We have to close your eyes. Are you serious? Yeah, I am serious. I love surprises. I know. You're going to love this surprise.

You have to close your eyes, though. Actually? Yeah. And you have to hold out one of your hands. Oh, gosh. Is it money? Yes. You're going to put money in my hand?

Yes. All right. Okay. Keep them closed. All right. Yeah, there's nothing really that'll, like, spook me unless it's something like crazy. Oh. It's not that crazy.

All right. Okay. Keep holding it. All right. Okay. Maybe like lift your hand a little bit. What is this? Why are you laughing, Jack?

Dude, you're going to love this. Keep your eyes close, but can I see this hand? Okay. I'll close. Okay. What is it? No, you can open. You can open.

Trying to guess what it is. You like it? Smoor. You get it? Oh. What's funny? Were you prepared for this? Yes, I was. It was in my toe bag.

Actually, like, you thought of this, like, in advance. Yes, I did. Before I came down here, I was going to do in the beginning, and I forgot. And halfway there, I was like, I need to do this still. Oh, man. It's been a long time to have one of the eat. But, I'm not going to be. I'm kidding, what? I'm like, no.

That's so funny. Jeez. All right. Wow. Yeah. Oh, he going to. Give it a try. Yeah, you really likes it.

Uh-oh. You dropped some. Who's the housemate? This is Luke's room. Luke. Shout out to you, Luke. Thank you for letting us use your room. Very gracious of you.

We really appreciate it. You went on Colin and Samir. Yes, I did. Tell me about how that was. That was really fun. I had probably met them like maybe a year prior. They're just really cool guys, super chill. And it was really cool to be on the podcast.

I felt like so honored. I feel so honored to be on. your guys on your podcast. Really? We're honored to have you. Yes, I've actually seen quite a few of your videos. I meant to tell you. What was your favorite?

What was my favorite? I used to watch so many of like, just like I really, when I was living upstate, I was like, I'm going to have an investment property. So I literally would be like watching every video that's like about like having a property and like what you should do. And I never ended up buying up there and of course I buy here where the market's like wild, but that's okay. Thank you.

That's so cool. No, oh my gosh. I'm trying to think of I have any questions. I'm just glad that got the Graham Cracker thing down. Now you could clip that, Josh. That's, wow, that's what it means. Holy Matt God, I did not care. No.

Are you serious? God. Okay, duh. Wait, what did you think it was? I just thought it was a smore. Are you serious? Even I got that. I was like, oh, smore.

Like, maybe, like, Graham wants some more because he's... Even I recognize that I got it Like immediately that's why I was like biting my hand Dude I've had a long day So that you could get it I've had a very long day We've been recording you know I feel like this New York trip's been draining

You gotta excuse me for that Jack has it easy too I literally I literally thought I could sleep in every morning It's jokes because he's you know He wants some more of something What do I want some more of? Money? I don't know views

Okay Yeah I just don't know if we should I don't put that in there. I definitely put that in there. Like Jack's little bit at I don't know if you would get this. Do you know infinity edge poles? Oh my gosh.

Like as an inside joke though? No, it's not inside joke. I do know what it's infinity edge pool is. You know the infinity edge has an edge that goes down into like a little pool? Jack saw a pool like that. He's like, dude, the pool has a little mini pool. He's like, let's go in the mini pool.

What did you say? Like, why does it have like a second pool? can level the pool. Why is there another level to the pool? Like, we got to show that. That's funny. Dude, the pool has a pool. I was like, that's the overflow for the pool. Now I know, man.

Now I know. Graham Cracker. That's why you were putting your hand over it. Exactly. So it's like, ah, Graham. Dude, you're funny. That's good.

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