The Iced Coffee Hour - “Vitaly Ruined My Life!” Akash Breaks Silence On Being Falsely Accused & Doxxed On Livestream

Episode Date: April 24, 2026

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Wayfair, every style, every home. I want to apologize for a mistake we made in one of our last streams. I was falsely accused by Vitaly live in front of millions of people. I swear to God, she never told me she was missing. I swear, I... Oh, my bad, bro. the bullying, the threatening of physical harm, all the time while I'm completely and fully innocent.

They didn't care about the truth. I'm the one who called the cops. I'm the one who gave them my phone. And within a few hours, the police proved that I was completely innocent. We were completely, completely wrong and we made a terrible mistake. By then it was too late. How did that ruin your life? One of the reasons why I wasn't leaving the house was because...

Holy. Sorry to your family, friends, your coworkers, and I feel really terrible. Are you suing Vitaly? Akash, thank you so much for coming on the podcast. Thank you so much for having me, guys. It's such an honor to be here. I'm filled with so much gratitude that we were able to have this conversation. A lot of people have reached out to me and podcast, reporters, mainstream media,

institutional media. And I specifically chose to talk to you guys because I've been fans for over six plus years now. I love your content. I really relate to it. And through watching you guys for so long, you've earned my intellectual and ethical trust and I feel very comfortable sharing my story with you.

Wow. Well, that's, thank you so much for coming the podcast. Honestly, it's such an honor because I imagine how crazy your life has been over the past 72 hours, over the past week. like I imagine everything's moving a mile a minute. But for you to take the time to come on the show, that means a lot. Thank you.

Thank you. Yeah, life has been a nightmare recently. Things have been so crazy and so hectic. And the support has been amazing from the online community and support from my family and friends. And how do you even explain this guys? I mean, we'll start with the beginning. Vitali accused you being a predator

in front of millions of people. How did that... Live as well, right. How do that ruin your life? It's... You can't even pick one thing to focus on because, like, not only was there the false accusation, not only was there the harassment, the bullying,

calling out my business before, during, and after meeting me, the fans reaching out to my family during the live stream, calling them saying, your son is in trouble, he's going to go to jail, going to go to prison. And this was all during the live stream when my family couldn't contact me at all. How many people were watching the live stream?

Do you know? To my knowledge, it was around 35,000 people live. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. And then immediately it was getting clipped by everyone, getting clipped by people in India, spread across India, within the same night.

So this was like instantaneous. Like as soon as you're on camera, people are already like clipping and sharing. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Like all like my friends found out, my family found out, cousins in India found out, business partners were being reached out to

immediately and underneath their, like social media pages. There were comments saying, like falsely accusing me and people repeating the same messaging that Vitaly was, um, like falsely promoting online and just harassing me like DMs all within the same night.

Did you know who Vitaly was? Any kid who grew up my age, Vitaly was one of the most popular YouTubers at that time. So like of course I knew him and I've watched this content and I knew who he was. And in the beginning obviously like the first 30 seconds I was just really confused. And I was like looking like this pointing because I was just, what is going on. I was shocked, confused, curious. And there were so many things happening at the same time. Not only were they, like, being really racist. Not only were they like falsely accusing me of some of the most horrible things you could ever

accuse someone of, they were also like threatening me with physical violence. Don't look at me in my bitch. I'll fucking fuck you up, bro. Harassing me completely. And then right after that, I was like, okay, I need to call the cops. How did all of this start? Like, how did you even come in contact with this person to begin with? Yeah, great, great question. So, like, millions of people every single day,

I was talking to a woman online on a dating app, legally and consensually, of course. And we talked for a couple of hours and we made plans to meet. And I had no reason whatsoever to assume anything was, like, wrong. So nothing stood out. There were no red flags. Absolutely not yet. Just seemed like a normal conversation.

And this happened in a few hours. So like you woke up that morning, started talking to someone, met up. And like this was like pretty quick. Yes, yes. So it was the same day. Wow. Yes, yes. And after I agreed to meet up with her,

within 30 seconds of me exiting my car, there's just like nine people with like five cameras shoved in my face saying the craziest stuff. I had no idea what was going on. I mean, in my head, I was just like, is this a fucking prank? Like, what is going on? In my head, and I think I even said this in the video, like, is this a prank?

because I knew I was completely innocent and I knew that I had done nothing wrong and so in my head I was like maybe they're just doing this like for views or whatever because I knew I did nothing wrong and then I tried to talk to them I tried to tell them look like this wasn't me

I didn't do anything wrong I wanted to show them all the text and everything I wanted to get to the bottom of this and the woman started talking about a second Snapchat. And I was like, I only have one Snapchat. I don't have two Snapchats. And that's not me. You're talking to someone else. That's a completely different person. I didn't know if it was a completely different person. I don't know if she made up the Snapchat. If like this was something done by them on purpose, I had no idea. And I asked to look at the Snapchat and like this

is all on the video that's released online, even the six minute video. I asked to look at the Snapchat and they wouldn't show me. And then right after that, I'm pretty sure, is when I was like, okay, I need to call the cops immediately because I want all the evidence to be documented. Like, I don't feel safe right now. And most importantly, all the evidence to exonerate me and clear my name fully, because I'm fully innocent,

needs to be documented immediately, immediately. And the only solution towards documenting that evidence properly, in my opinion, was the cops. And so I was like, okay, I'm going to call the cops immediately. then they came and I was like take my phone look through everything go through everything I waived my like any normal person um if you watched any type of lory TV show or anything they all say don't say yeah exactly don't say anything without the presence of counsel um like you should know your rights protect your rights um anything you can say canon will be used against you like so they read you

the Miranda rights was like hey man anything you say canning will be used against you it's like you want to speak, they went through that entire thing with you? Yeah, so in the beginning, I was trying to get them to go through all the evidence in the very beginning the moment that I met up with them, but they said, you need to wait until we read you, your Miranda rights. And so I had to wait before, you know, I could talk to them about anything. And then I, like, waived my rights, and I told them, look through my phone, look through everything.

I have nothing to hide. I want to figure this out with you at this point of time. Everything was like a puzzle in my head where the pieces didn't fit. It was like a mystery that needed to be solved. And so it was like I was actually like me and four of the officers work together, primarily three different officers. We worked together in conjunction to comb through all the evidence from both sides. And I wasn't able to comb through some of the evidence from the other side. but they did it

and they found me fully innocent and completely clear of doing all wrongdoing to the point where these officers inside the interrogation room were profusely apologizing. So they checked Vitaly's phone and all of their stuff, right?

Because what's to prevent Vitaly from saying, no, I'm not giving anything. You got to get a lawyer. Yeah, so it was the woman who gave all the evidence to the cops from her side. and after coming through all of her evidence, on call, the female cop, who you can see in the video, she called the woman and she told her, this guy is innocent, you have the wrong guy, we're letting him go, he's completely innocent.

You need to take down the videos, otherwise, wow. So she complied, but she must have genuinely thought she was, like, correct by complying. Or do you think that she was confused, too? Well, so in the video itself, you'll hear a girl saying maybe we made a mistake. She was saying that I blocked her when I was on video. I was showing my phone to everyone. When did I have time to do something like that? Why would I want to get rid of any evidence to support my name?

I have nothing to hide. Basically what happened was inside the interrogation room, after I'd given all my evidence of the cops, I told the cops, please ask her for her evidence if you don't. have it yet. And then they called her and they like, um, were on call with her for an hour. And, um, she gave them all the evidence. And they were like, this guy's completely innocent to the point where like they were, like they were telling her. He's completely innocent. He did nothing wrong. You guys got the wrong guy. You guys got the wrong guy. We're letting him go. Yeah, they were all just profusely apologizing, um, saying, we've never seen anything like this.

like we're so sorry that this happened to you. This is like a one in a million chance for this to happen. If there were any other cops who were there, who knows if they would have taken the time to properly go through your case and listen to you and that I'm very filled with gratitude to all the cops that worked with me and took their time to fully investigate

what happened and clear me within the same night. So how much time passed between, between you stepping out of the car, immediately getting bombarded with Vitale and his entire crew, and then being exonerated by the cops. Our guest on this episode was probably seen hundreds of millions of times this week, which is just absolutely insane because his story broke on X and within hours, clips were everywhere. And that's just the world that we're in now. The right clip at the right moment spreads faster than anything.

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That is opus.com. Thanks again, so much to OpusClipp for supporting the show and back to the episode. So how much time passed between you stepping out of the car, immediately getting bombarded with Vitale and his entire crew, and then being exonerated by the cops? To my memory, around three and a half hours. So walk me through those three and a half, four hours then. I'm curious, like, where we were.

was your mind going? Was your family calling you? What did you experience in those four hours? So the moment I first met the cops, they had my phone. They took my phone. And in the car, I was just, I'd never felt less control over anything in my life. Up, like, up until this point, I just felt the least in control. And I ended up turning to, like, to, like, spirituality in my faith. And I was just like, God, please help me. I did nothing wrong. Please, like, make sure all the evidence stays. And, like, please make, like, just please help me. Please help me. I did nothing wrong. And I was just, I was like the whole world that's going to, you know, think something about me that's completely false and like a lie and just my, like, intimate life. No one would want there.

intimate conversations that they have in the bedroom with their partner to be put out to the entire world. It was something like this is something, I'm a very private person, you know, and now all of a sudden the whole world has their eyes on me, like tens of thousands of DMs, even though like I haven't even shown my face in any of my post or anything purposely. I was, I was really scared. I was scared for Whether or not, like in the moment, right after it happened, I was like, what could have happened if I wasn't found fully innocent and cleared within the same night? Like, if it was any other different cops or anything. Yeah. In the beginning, I didn't know if, you know, the cops are going to fully investigate everything or if they were going to look through all the evidence.

I had no, this was my first time ever, like, you know, stepping foot inside of a police station, you know, must less in the back of a police car, the most that I've ever gotten. I'm a very risk-averse person. In everything in my life, I'm just very risk-averse. Like, I would never, like, go skydiving, for example. I don't speed on when I'm driving because, like, I don't want to use up my luck on the road. And so the max I've ever gotten was, like, a speeding ticket, like, five years ago. And now, you know, I'm fighting for my life in the moment.

Like, even though there was so much, like, racism, like crazy racism. Like it was like... Yeah, what was that like? Like, have you had comments ever, like, directed at you like that before? Oh my God. There's always some experiences, like, as, like, you know, like a minority, you'll, like, just, you'll have some type of experience.

It might not be, like, really big or anything like that. But, like, nothing at all compared to, like, what was going on then. I mean, the moment he pulls up, he's just being so, so, so racist, which was like astonishing and absurd to me. I was like, like, what are you doing? You know? And in the moment, honestly, even though all of these injustices were happening, like crazy things were happening, my main thought was like my main like priority.

and my main focus in my mind was like, what is going on? What is going on? I was so confused. I was just trying to understand the situation and then, like, get all the evidence and then, like, prove that I just didn't do anything wrong at all. I was like, okay, like, the first thing that I need to do is just focus on, like, proving my innocence. So when they proved you innocent, did anybody in your life still believe that, like,

hey, maybe he's not innocent? Or did everyone come around? When I first released a statement before I released the audio, everyone was still in doubt. Even though Vitaly had a video and written statement saying that, you know, I didn't do anything wrong. And even though I put out a statement saying that, you know, like even the cops fully cleared me and proved me innocent,

people were still thinking that maybe we paid them off or like there wasn't enough evidence to prosecute me or whatever. But in reality, the truth is they found evidence that it was a full 100% mistake on Vitaly's team guys. Like this was a complete blunder and mistake by his team. I did nothing wrong. Like there's evidence that this was a mistake on Vitaly's team and Vitaly's side. What was the mistake? Great question.

From your perspective. So, yeah, so I mean, like, this is the clear-cut mistake that they made. The decoy, who her job is to talk to as many guys as possible on dating apps and then move them over to Snapchat, tell them her fake age, and, like, get them to meet up. That never happened. She never told me anything. Like, if you check the video, I added her on Snapchat. and I sent three messages and never got a response back. And so then we kept texting on the dating app.

And she was texting a bunch of guys at the same time because that's what she was being incentivized to do. And she mixed up, apparently she thought that she was talking to me when she was talking to one of the other, who knows how many guys she was currently talking to at the same time. and then apparently she thought it was me and it wasn't she was talking to someone completely different a real guy she was talking to them

and that's who she had the conversation with on Snapchat and it was never me her and I never ever talked off the dating app because she never responded and the police saw that what was the hardest part for you mentally was it like fear anger how do you keep your composure I keep my circle close and very tight The biggest emotion that I had was just my family. I didn't know what was going to happen.

I didn't know if they were going to, like, I didn't know what they were going to think. I didn't know whether they would believe me. Like in the beginning, I was just really, they're my strength, they're my rock. my foundation. I didn't know what they were going to think, and that was probably the most scariest thing of all.

And, like, surprisingly enough, like, the second biggest feeling that I had was, like, gratitude for my parents the first time that I called them and got to talk to them because I wasn't allowed to, you know, talk to anyone. because I didn't have my phone until after I got fully proven innocent because they were using my phone as a source of evidence to look at

and combed through my entire phone. Right after the cop talked on the audio, you can see I'm going to give the cop says, I'm going to give the phone to your son so you can speak to him now. And so I was calling it, like, I was talking to my parents and they were just like, we love you, we support you, we know you didn't do anything wrong, like we're here for you. Like, the first time I cried was when I heard the cop say I was innocent for the first time.

He determined that he was not the right suspect we were looking for. So your son was perfectly compliant. He was cool with us and he just happened to be wrong place, wrong time. And then the second time, like, I choked up and started crying was when, like, I heard that from my parents and I was just like choking up saying, like, thank you guys so much. Like, I don't know how many like parents would really stick up for their kids in a situation. like that when private details are getting exposed. Like, they just, all they cared about was supporting me, they said,

um, like, we just, we love you. We're here for you no matter what. Like, you're our son. Um, like, we're so proud of you. Good job for calling the cops. We're really, really, really, really proud of you for calling the cops. Yeah, could have gone so differently had you just said nothing. Yeah. Or just left. Yeah. Or left. Or I'm going to retain an attorney because I'm going to tell you, man, had you done that, it would have taken months. And if you left, like, they could have just said you deleted evidence. Yeah.

True. And I mean, I knew that I didn't do anything wrong. And so in the beginning, I tried to explain that to them. Like, I was trying to explain it to them. And I was trying to, like, work out. What happened? Like, where was, like, was this a prank? Is this, like, miscommunication?

What's going on? And they didn't care about that in any way, shape, or form. we had no choice like I had no choice but I had no choice like at first I tried to you know talk to them sort of calmly um and explain what's going on and then like when they started physically threatening me at least I'd already called the cops at this point I'm curious the viewers of this live stream how do they find out like your name and like try to find your family like how do they do that yeah so um even in the beginning before I had met her in person they were calling on my business. And then during the live stream, when I was calling the cops, and I was giving them my

information, they didn't mute it. Mute the mic. Oh, so they were filming you basically saying, here's like my info. Yes, yes. And then they muted it with the cross streets. Yeah, like the moment when they muted it was when I was giving out the address. But before that, they like, filming the whole thing. Yeah, yeah. They never stopped recording. Yeah. I mean, they knew I was going to give my information because they heard the cop asking you, what's all my information? They didn't mute the mic or anything like that. And then, even then, like, I said, I was saying my name and they said, oh, like, you made a mistake. Now everyone's going to know who you are or whatever.

And then, I mean, but even then after that, they called out my LinkedIn, my business. They told people to go cancel me and my business. And so before, during, and after this entire thing, they told people to go after my business. And what about your family during that four-hour window before the public statement was made that you were not guilty of what they were accusing you of and your own phone? I imagine like what were the messages, the outreach, what did all of that look like during those four hours? I was getting a lot of phone calls and like my father was like calling my phone, but I didn't know because I didn't have access to my phone. And then, um, they were like my parents believed that I did nothing wrong because I called the cops immediately and like they were very proud of that they were like okay like when you call the cops that's when we knew for sure without a doubt in our mind he didn't do anything like you didn't do anything Akash what about friends acquaintances people you used to know your parents phones were other people

calling your parents like I don't know childhood friends parents or something yeah um so like after Like even up until today, everyone is like talking to my business partners and family friends and like my close friends and extended friends and just people who know me through other people, etc. Like people who know, oh, like this guy's a cautious friend. Reaching out to all of us saying, oh, like, what happened. Everyone wants to know more details. like the video and me being innocent, it's not enough. Everyone's reaching out and saying, oh, like, we want to know more, what happened. What do you think they want to know?

I don't know. I mean, I guess they just want to know more, like, how, I guess, how I felt. I don't even know. And like, a lot of them are offering their condolences, et cetera. Like, the support has been really amazing in terms of, like, the outreach from family and friends and everything after I was proven completely fully innocent. How are you doing? taking it day by day, step by step, like trying to focus on gratitude for the cops, my family,

the support of the online community, being able to come up on a podcast like this where I've been watching your content for years and been a fan of you guys, an honest, true fan, where I've learned so much as well. And everything, it's still happening, right? It's not like this whole, ordeal isn't over yet, clearly.

People are still finding out. Do you think it went more viral when Vitalia apologized? Because what's funny is that's how I found out about it, was when he said, delete the video. And then me, being the idiot that I am, I'm like, what's the video? Yeah.

And then I look it up. But just him saying delete the videos enough for a lot of people to be like, let me find the video. Yeah. And then everyone sort of reposting the video when he wants it taken down. It's like the stricand effect. It makes it worse.

I mean, I haven't really taken a look at the numbers. But I mean, what I, like, I do think that, like, the apology did, like, have an effect on the virality of it. But I also think that no matter what, he would have had, like, whether it's now or later, he would have had to apologize. But yeah, it's just like it's everywhere, I think like 200, 250 million different people have seen this entire thing. Have you got recognized in public yet? No, but I haven't gone out in public, really. Yeah, I remember even saying, like, you're worried about going to the airport.

Yeah, yeah. Just because we don't know what people are thinking and we don't know what's going on. Who knows, right? And so this is like, we're all very private. This is, you know, my first time in this. spotlight and it's something that I did not ask for. And nor did I ever want. You and I were talking like offline and I told you that like like I always wanted to be like a wealthy man but be able to walk anywhere in the world and have nobody know like mine and my family's

name. Like I thought that was like peace like that that's what I wanted. That's what I envisioned. I never had any desire for fame at all. all. I know how that really takes away your right to a private life at some, to some extent, because everyone's always looking at you. I never wanted any of that, but here we are. Has Vitaly reached out to you privately? Aside from right after the apology asking what we were going to do legally, no, he has not reached out. Even after having your innocence proven, have you received a lot of hate? I have. What do they say? That they don't believe me. even though all parties involved

have fully cleared me and said this is a mistake I'm to Talley's side that I'm a messed up person that this is all staged can you believe that can you believe that

that's crazy people would think that that would be one of the worst things ever to stage what nonsense and like in my head like honestly like all I could think of is what nonsense yeah it was just it was crazy

like the hate, the racism. Like, there was a lot of racism after the fact, too. There was a lot of, uh, there was some physical violence. People were threatening, like, they were going to, like, you know, come to my house or, you know, yada, yada, yada. That's got to be terrifying. Yeah, yeah. Do you take any security precautions on that?

Like, if they say they're going to, okay. We hired security. even though it's super expensive, we were just scared, really scared. Like, what's going to happen? Is anyone going to, you know, they have my name, they have everything, my business. Are they going to find out where I live? Are they going to come? Like, one of the reasons why I wasn't leaving the house was because what if someone's

waiting for me outside? I've never been in this position, you know? I've never had the whole world spotlight on me. And like, who knows what people are going to, you know, think and do, right? People could be crazy. And all it takes is like out of millions, there's one. One person. Just one bad actor.

Just one. But everyone else, you know, one. Yeah. It's not worth taking the risk on the one. Exactly. Exactly. And so, like, we did have to take precaution in the aspect of, like, be really safe, maybe consider, like, getting an Airbnb or something like that for the time being.

Luckily, there's been no incidents, physical incidents or anything like that. that, but there has been a lot of threats made and just, you know, hate and racism and, like, the DMs, comments, whatever you name it. Are you suing Vitaly? I'm keeping all my options open. Right now, my number one concern is the mental health of myself, my family, and the people around me. He has to be held accountable. He just is on so many levels. When a false, accusation like this is made live in front of millions of people, especially when you add everything else on top of it. Proper verification and like proper procedure to make sure that you have the right person is so, so incredibly important. This can ruin lives. Imagine if it was

someone else that like, I don't know, like if this happened almost any other person, who knows what could have happened. Like, if my father didn't record the phone call, audio call with the police, then even, like, until now, like, we're about to get, like, the police report, et cetera, but it takes a week to get the police support. We wouldn't be able to prove my innocence until now. Yeah. But because we got the audio recording, because all these things happened, and I really

believed that, you know, like, God had my back, where not only was I able to be proved completely innocent of any wrong doing the same night, but the whole world was able to find out. And, like, after the audio call, that's when, that's when everyone was like, oh, like, oh, shit. How often, guys, how often do you see a cop apologizing like that? for like a mistake. Especially for how quick. Yeah. Yeah.

You got very lucky. I mean, considering the circumstance, you got insane. Yeah, you're like the luckiest guy ever, man. Yeah. I think of how bad it could have been and what the outcome was. In the beginning, I felt like, in the beginning, listen, I felt like a cosmic fucking joke, right? In the beginning, I felt like the most unlucky person in the entire world.

I felt like this was like, I felt like the devil was trying to ruin my life through the most, like, insane way possible because, like, who, you can't even make this up, man. Like, if you were writing a story, you can't even make this up. And then towards the end of all this, like, couple hours later, I felt like, like, the luckiest man and then the luckiest man within the same night. Like, I was feeling both ways at once, if that can make sense, because the cops look past, like, everything in terms of, like, they look past all their

assumptions about me or whatever to properly comb through all the evidence, investigate everything really thoroughly and prove my innocence. And then my parents, the support of the online community, and then everyone, like, believing I'm innocent after like the audio call for the most part, that being released and that being recorded, being born into such a supportive family that I was born into, All of these factors all played like a huge pivotal role towards my innocence being proven within the same night. If Vitaly was here right now, what would you tell him?

You tried to ruin my life and there was no care for due process or verification, proper verification. Not only did you try to ruin my life, you were extremely racist, called out my business before, during and after, threatened physical harm. Like, why? Like, I get, I wholeheartedly support, you know, protecting the innocent and vulnerable from any type of wrongdoers whatsoever. But, like, shouldn't you know how important this is? You've been in the, like, in this, you know, industry or business or whatever for so long.

like who knows how many other people this happened to if like if it did i don't know but if it happened other people like who knows um why didn't you care about that why didn't you check yourself why didn't you check all the evidence yourself before falsely accusing me and harassing me and bullying me um why do you think that this is a cause that vatali actually does care about after looking through all his videos, not really. The day right after, the day right after all this happened, and he had already found out that I was innocent. He went on live stream,

and there was this other person who was rightfully accused. They caught the right guy, and he was telling the world, let's run a poll in the chat, should we release him or should we turn him into the cops? And he was making that one guy go with them throughout the entire stream to catch other predators and turning it into content. And then at the end, like the chat and everything had voted to release him.

This was when he knew I was innocent the very next day. Then he was planning on letting this guy go. And he said this multiple times on stream. the very next day that, okay, I'm going to let him go. We're becoming friends with him. He's a chill guy, whatever. And this guy ended up running away or something. Who knows what happened?

Even though they were planning on letting him go, this guy ended up running away. But if they really cared about this, if at all he really cared about this, and this is all, you know, my opinion. But if at all he really cared about this, then he would probably call the cops on this guy immediately. What's interesting is that we,

Jack and I were doing some research, on this and we came across someone who was doing something similar. And they said in the way that people go about catching these people, there's so many errors that actually prosecuting is next to impossible with the way that they do it. And that out of like a hundred cases where the cops have been called, I think they said only like two or three. Yeah.

Out of like 100 cases, there have been two or three arrests. So it's like the people are getting publicly shamed, but it's not actually doing justice. Justice. Well, not only that, but it's not stopping it. Because if they're still out free to roam, yeah. Then they're still free to do whatever. And I don't know if like, if the public humiliation is as good as just keeping them away from public where they could continue to do harm. Like if you humiliate someone who commits a violent crime, will that just like stop them from doing it again? Or is it a person that has, you know, a compulsive nature where they can get angry really quickly or

or someone who has a compulsive nature in a different way where they can feel a different way very quickly. So there are other people on YouTube that have done this effectively. I used to watch this guy, anxiety war all the time. He was so good. Zach Swirs. 2012 to 2014 YouTube.

He made phenomenal content and he would have these conversations and he would document every video was like a full documentary on the entire encounter, every exchange that was had, and he would even meet these people. There was one where he like shaved his beard

and tried to look like a little boy. And he like met this. Like it was the amount of research that he would do into this. And every single time, he would draft a perfect case and hand it off to the local authorities. Didn't he blur their faces too?

It would result. It would result in actual arrest. And he would do updates on the arrest. Someone like Vitaly, if you, in this isolated incident, and this is just my opinion, it's not a statement of fact,

if you look at this as an isolated incident, you may be able to say, you know, maybe he does care about it. He does seem passionate. But if you map this out across the timeline of his career, he is clearly not shown any form of like moral, you know, standard with what he's done. Like he's just chased whatever most outrageous thing

that he can do for views. And another thing that I actually think is very twisted is a lot of the people that try to catch these predators, what they end up doing is basically like a form of like mini T-O-R-T-O-R-E, where they basically get this person in a vulnerable state of like, hey, your life is screwed unless if you do this. And they just make content out of it. It's not actually about getting this person arrested and solving the problem.

It's just about whatever outrageous content. How else can you get someone where you can get them to do whatever you want? Yeah. Aside from holding this over their head saying, you don't follow our rules, then we're going to, you know, and then... Now that I think about it, isn't that like extortion in blackmail? Yes. Which I think is probably what leads to...

Well, let's say my opinion on the matter is yes. What leads to a lot of these people getting let off? Really? They could maybe also call it a honeypot where they were lured in. Oh, so like, entracted in this way. Yeah, but there's also proper documentation. There's proper documentation that needs to be had. Like, with, like, there's probably a way that you need to have the conversation.

Instead of just, like, having some random person. with no credibility or credentials. All the proof that you need to have, honestly, is if you have, like, you know, like text messages, showing proof that the person was informed of the fake age, that's pretty actionable, at least from my understanding. And, like, because there was, you know, there was no evidence that I did anything wrong

in terms of, like, nothing was ever deleted or anything. and so like, and they checked to see whether anything was deleted, by the way. They did a full, this is a very serious deal. And so the investigation was very, very thorough. And yeah, I mean, well, I recommend that justice is found one way or another, whether that's through the courts or some other way. I hope that you're made whole because you're just living a normal life. and of course this meteor comes and completely throws you off of whatever course that you were on.

One thing that I was curious about is, I try to think about this from my perspective. Let's say that I have a date planned out with a girl. And I've never met this girl before. Let's say, like I meet her online and then I just Google her name because I know a lot of girls Google, whatever guy's name, when you should do this if you're going on a date with someone, Google their name. And I googled your name. and the first five pages of Google all have to do with this case.

And even if it says that you are wrongfully accused of it, I don't think that matters, unfortunately. Like, I'm not saying this, like, I'm just trying to be honest with you. If I were to Google a girl's name and it said wrongfully accused of, you know, like, her ex-boyfriend. I'm like, I am not kidding. I'm like, I'm not getting anywhere near this girl. Like just a case.

Yeah. Like, even though it's like, I'm 99% sure, but that 1%? Unless if she's really attractive. No, I'm kidding. I'm not getting anywhere near this girl. Yeah. Right. There's just no reason.

Like there are so many fish in the sea. Why would I take a chance? Even if it's like there are five pages of wrongfully accused, I don't care. I'm not going to look into it. Yeah. And so I'm curious to see kind of how this plays out in the long run. Fortunately, a lot of people have rushed to your defense. Yeah.

Which is good. Yeah. Yeah. Is that a concern of yours? Or I'm also curious, this is kind of twisted, but have you had people reaching out to girls specifically because of your composure in the video? You seemed very, like, cool and collected.

Did anything like that happen? Yeah, I mean, I've had a lot of support from everyone, male, female, like, even, like, parents, a lot of parents are reaching out saying, if this was my son or, like, daughter, I couldn't imagine. I have kids that are your age. We have your back. Thank your parents.

Thank your family. We're very proud of you for the way you handled yourself. And it has, like, I am concerned that it will affect my life in other areas in terms of professional personal relationships. Even if 99.99% of people will forget about this in two or three days, maybe after even 10 minutes. for any type of personal professional relationship, if they look me up and this is what they see, who knows what they might think in five, ten years? Who knows?

And it's just something that we are forced to deal with now. What have you learned from this experience? My friend reached out to me right after all this happened and told me, God gives the most difficult battles to his strongest warriors. I pray that I am a vessel to do something good. I really hope that. And if this is a test or something like that,

then I really hope that I have good faith and goodwill. Because it would be, it would make a lot more sense if maybe all of this happened for a reason, for maybe some good to come out of it. that would really help a lot. I have reached out already to everyone, and I told them that I'm not accepting any money or donations. Please, everyone, if you see any type of GoFundMe or cryptocurrency or anything in my name, please do not donate to it.

And so if you want to help in any type of way possible, the falsely accused, please consider donating to the Innocence Project. I know like this has been a nightmare, a complete and total nightmare. But I used to always tell this to all my friends before any of this ever happened. There's two types of people in life. The first person, something really bad happens to them and they want the whole world to feel the way they did. The second person, something bad, really bad happens to them and they never want anyone to go through what they did ever again. and I'm the second guy

I want to be the second guy I'd like to be the second guy and that's why after like a lot of thinking if the most horrible thing that happened to me my life the most difficult adversity I've ever gone through in my life

which I don't think I deserve to have happened to me if that can help someone in any type of way if we can use it to affect some type of good if even one person donates to the Innocence Project because of this, at least something good will have happened. What's the Innocence Project? So the Innocence Project is the topmost charity that supports any falsely accused innocent person

that doesn't have the means to support themselves. The Innocence Project takes up their case and helps them. And they're doing a phenomenal job. Obviously, you guys can see why this matters to me very deeply. We'll link to the Innocence Project down below. Really appreciate you coming on, and I'm curious, what's something that you want everyone to know? Thank you so much for having me. Everyone got to know a side of me that is completely private, and what I would want everyone to know is that I'm a normal guy.

I'm a businessman with a passion for vending machines. The reason why I started it is I think it's the most resilient business. against AI and that's what I want to be known for. A businessman, someone who loves what he does and cares for all the people around him. I'm a very private person. I never wanted to be in the spotlight and now it seems like the whole world has their eyes on me. And if everyone wants to know me as like, if they want to get to know me, I would just say, look at my passions, look at what I love to do, business, family, faith. These are the core tenants that I live by. And that's what I would like to be known for.

I realize I think we need a vending machine in here. That would not be a bad idea. But we could split the profit. High ticket sales. Say it out to sell a bunch. I got you guys. We completely forgot to film an outro. Thank you so much for watching. If you made it to the end, we appreciate it so, so much. We would not be here without you. As always, so grateful for you. Thank you to Akash, our guest. Thank you to Graham for being such a great guy. Thanks for watching. Until next time.