The Iced Coffee Hour - Why We Had To Fire Our Assistant | Alex Nava

Episode Date: December 17, 2021

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Welcome back to the iced coffee hour. My name's Alex and I've just been fired. Well, that's unfortunate. So sorry to hear it, Alex. Yeah, man. It's okay, man. It's all right. Put yourself together, buddy.

You're moving on to bigger and better things, but I do think it's worth addressing that if people see a discrepancy and kind of what's going on, maybe they'll notice. Maybe not. But I think it's going to be a good move for you. Yeah, man. We're both on board. Everybody's told me, you know, only up from here.

And I'm going to miss working with both of you guys. So for those of you guys that do not know, Alex is the assistant that Graham and I hired, what, was that eight months ago? Eight or nine months ago. That was March. Yeah, this is November. Oh, we know this is December. Yeah. Okay, yeah.

So that was nine months ago. It was nine months ago. We hired you. Welcome, you know. So, yeah, Alex was the assistant. It's an interesting process, by the way, hiring you. because we asked that people just create a YouTube video titled, what is it, Grahamstaff, an interview.

So we could search for it and we could see people on camera. And we got, I don't know, 80 submissions. It was a lot. It took forever to go through all of them. And I heard I'm not the only one on this podcast who has interviewed for that position. Because I think you guys had the runner up here too. Yeah, yeah. So you fire them and then you monetize.

It was a mutually beneficial thing. I'm going to be Rock Colby on, yeah. But anyways, Alex joined the team. And since then, he's been working, you've been editing clips for the iced coffee hour. You've been editing the podcast. You've been instrumental in the design of this new podcast set. And you also do stuff for the stuff family.

You also do sponsorships for the iced coffee hour. You do a lot of stuff. And basically, we noticed that you were spread a little bit thin between all of the stuff you were working on. And I'm sure that was stressing you out. And it was affecting your work and probably, you know, your personal life. And we decided it would be a better idea to change the amount of work that you do and, and redirect your path with us, with the brand.

Yeah. So that's worth talking about. So you and Jack have been working together very closely these last nine months. And my understanding is that the relationship is not always gone smoothly. What? So, right? Where are you going to that? That's a joke.

No, what you were telling you. What you were telling me. I mean, what's your experience like working with Jack? Honestly? Honestly. Say it. No, it's been good, man. I've loved working with Jack guys.

The only complaint I have about working with Jack, let's see. Sometimes he doesn't know when to step in as a supervisor, superior. What do you mean by that? Um, you know, if some, if I have a ton of work, and you've told me this in the past, you're like, you know, Alex, uh, if you're too drowned, like, let me know. And, uh, I tried to juggle things. And so I probably should have come to you, but I also think that you should. I hope that, you know, whoever follows next to me, you're able to step in and kind of provide more, more direction. Assistance. Yeah. When, when somebody is spread too thin. All right. Other than that. communication sure i could always work oh you could text back faster but grand can attest to this jack

is the worst at texting it's really bad i mean i'll text him something that benefits him that makes him money i'm not making any extra money and i have to follow up with him to hear back about making you money it's really bad you know what i've noticed jack puts his phone on do not disturb all the time when i call him it goes straight to voicemail yeah it's like hi it's jack Hey, it's Jack. I can't read the phone right now, but if you leave me a message, I will call you back as soon as I can. Thank you. Bye.

Because you have the same voicemail as when you're like 13 years old. Yeah, and you've told me to change that, man. I love my voicemail. I think it's pretty cool. Everyone hates it, except me, and my family loves it too. But the problem is that I'm trying to reach you, and it's so odd, but I have two phone numbers. And on one phone number, do not disturb applies. So just goes straight to voicemail.

That, when that happens, I have to call you all my phone number. other number. Jack's just bad at texting back. Okay, there we go. And yeah, so basically what happened was we decided it would be better for Alex to solely work for Graham because prior to that, he was doing a lot of stuff on my end, such as like podcast production and stuff like that. But now he's actually stepping in and editing Graham's main channel videos. Yeah. So I got fired working for you guys and got hired working for Graham. That is true. And that is the story there. It's been interesting. This has been your first full week working for me exclusively.

Yeah. And what has that been like for you? Well, it's been kind of an odd week just because I was in the middle of a move. So I was moving. But if we go ahead and take that out, it's been different just because of the work schedule, right? So a lot of the things that Graham has me do is the main channel editing. And a lot of that is like a one-day turnaround so that we can review it the next day. And right now it's also taking me longer.

just because, you know, we're still kind of in training. We're kind of at the final end of it, but, you know, still, you know, need to speed up, get used to what I'm doing there. So the biggest thing is the hours. So, I mean, I work crazy hours. Like, when people hear the hours I work, they... Yes. Part of me would love to see the breakdown of your hours. Like, I would love to see for a week if you could actually try this.

Track, when you start something and when you end it. And we just, we get a week. week's worth of data and figure out exactly where the time is being spent. You sound like a skeptist. Yeah. You sound like a skeptic. Do you think I'm not working? I know you're working, but I look back to the time where I was editing seven videos a week

and doing all of that. It was, it was 12, 10 to 12 hours a day, six days a week. But I was doing seven videos a week. And that was planning, filming, editing for both channels with time. And I could be wrong here. Did you have a girlfriend at the time? Yes. Damn it.

But I think the current breakdown of the hours working with Graham is right now I'm spending an average of probably 10 hours a video. Makes sense. And so we do about three videos a week. So that's 30 hours. Stafamly, I'd say spending anywhere now between five and eight hours depending on the stuff family. So we're about 38 hours. And then just doing sponsors with Jack, we spent an hour. Sure.

A couple of things filming with you and then just miscellaneous email stuff like that. Seems about right. And just stuff that comes up. That's kind of what it is about now. What's been the most challenging part of editing or working with me in general? I think you're so particular in how you like things. But I think that's a good thing because I think that's what, you know, you have that secret sauce on your videos. A little salt bay.

A little salt bay, yes. and so when we were we were going through in training like graham goes by and if like a cut is one frame short and for you guys that don't know how short a frame is 24 frames make up one second of video so it's one 24th of a second if a video is cut one 24th of a second too long or too short graham notices and uh it's kind of weird uh that it's so particular But it's also, other than that, I mean, he's particular in the cuts and what he uses and stuff like that. So, but I think the more that we've worked together, the closer I get to you. Because we're thinking about the same type of humor and stuff like that.

And I think that at first we were editing videos. You would edit yours. Yep. I would edit mine. And at first, I hate, even I hated my videos. I mean, they were bad. But then as we got going, we would do the same type of, uh, we would put the same type of humor.

Yeah. That was the best training. So for those that don't know, I had Alex edit all of my videos. I think for like two to three weeks, I would edit mine. And I would have Alex edit his own version. And then we'd sit there the next day and compare our videos side by side until they got close enough where we were making the same jokes in the same spots because we just, you know, it just takes some time. But I would say those three weeks were so helpful in doing that. Yeah.

To be fair, I mean, you were taking kind of a leap, right? Because you were paying me less than what you pay me now for the videos. But if it didn't work out, I mean, you know, I'm surprised Graham shawed out some cash there, let's say. Well, the thing is, if it wasn't going to work out, we would know pretty quickly. You would know within about two to three weeks if it wasn't going to work out. And so the investment was actually not that bad to test it. And if it did work out, the upside's really great. And if it didn't work out, then, you know, it's a write off.

Yeah. And I just want to be clear for people listening to. They didn't, they didn't, Graham and Jack didn't force me to go down this, this road. I think Graham just wanted to hire an editor. He doesn't like new people. And, uh, although Jack, Jack, you're going to say it, aren't you? Go ahead. Go ahead.

Yeah. I got the short end of the stick here. Okay. So basically what happened was Graham wanted someone to hire, uh, to do his main channel videos, okay, which is totally understandable. He shouldn't be doing those now. He shouldn't have been doing them a year ago. So he wanted to hire an editor.

He said, you know what, let's hire in-house. Let's hire Alex, because Jack, you probably don't want to do it. And I said, yeah, that does not sound like a good idea. Because Alex has shared work responsibility between Graham and I. We both pay half of his salary each, okay? We used to. We used to, yeah, ending December 1st. And now Graham on the side wants to provide more work for Alex.

It's a side hustle. I know, but the issue is, I said, Graham, there's no way that Alex is going to be able to spend more time doing editing your main channel videos, he just doesn't have that much time. He's going to leave something behind. Well, guess what got left behind? There was, there is one thing that got left behind. I don't know what got left behind. There's one thing I got, I got behind on because of the work we were doing.

What was it? That was the Clips Channel. Oh. Yes. It hasn't posted in three weeks. Still? Yeah. Yeah.

To this day. Yes. Yes. I'm catching. I'm catching up right now. So, it was a few other things also like, like like, like, like, like, Just generally speaking, if I was like, hey, Alex, do you want to shoot sponsors right now? You're like, oh, no, I got a stuff to do.

Like, I didn't get you sleep last night. Like, I'd be like, we can't do it until 8 p.m. Yeah, like Alex was a lot stricter with like his time and I couldn't utilize him. Definitely not nearly to the like potential that I used to, you know, get work done with him, you know? So, yes, there was no way. And you know what I said? I said, guys, Alex won't be able to juggle these two things at once. It's just way too much work.

And Graham and Alex laughed at me. they laughed at me and they're like oh no Alex is going to be able to do it just fine it's not going to have an issue well it did and whose end had the issue this guy's jack you you were right you were right the to justify it I was looking at how fast Graham was editing at the time and he was editing within what three to five hours yeah and now it's like oh like that's easy just you know like a couple days and then you get it to down and, uh, but inevitably we were wrong and you were right. Well, that's okay. Yeah, I still, I still love you guys. But first, I'd like to thank our sponsor, Vino Vest. Halix, what are you

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And with that said, back to the podcast. So, guys, enough about business. Okay. What's going on personally here? Well, went on a date two nights ago with a girl. You did not. And then the next morning. She's real?

Yeah, she's real. She's like a real girl. Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah. And then the next morning, I texted her, I was like, hey, I had a great time last night. You know, if you ever want to come over for a barbecue again, like maybe sometime this week. And you know what she said?

What? Nothing. No. Are you serious? Are you kidding me? No. What? Jack, you got to figure out where are you going wrong?

Dude, I don't know, man. That's odd. I don't know. What happened? Hold on. Let's break this down. What happened that night? Okay, so she came over.

Yeah. The barbecue one, right? Yeah, she was really quiet immediately as she came over. So my housemate Apple was also bringing a girl over, a second date with a girl. So they were a little more familiar. And this girl came over for a first date with me. She walked through the door already. She was very quiet.

She was like, okay, I'm going to have to do a lot of the legwork here. your first time meeting her? Yes. That's a big ask. You can't bring her into the frat house on the first date, man. Not a frat house. But you can't bring her into the frat house. On a first date, she doesn't know you, and already you're sitting it up on a day.

A double date is not a first date. A double date is something that you do, the third to fifth date. The first time should have just been you and her so you could get to know her. She doesn't need to know how you interact with other people. You could, because it's, that's not a representation. of a first date to be in a group like that. So that's strike number one. When you told me you had a date, I thought it was like, oh, you already met her and, you know,

now she's just coming over. Bad choice, but continue. Because think about it this way, right? She was really shy, really quiet. Yeah. How is she supposed to share, like, private things with you or things about herself when she's in front of your roommate who looks like Ninja from Fortnite? Yeah.

Well. By the way, I love how you look Apple, no offense. No, no, yeah. He's a good looking guy. I wouldn't blame her for me. Yeah. I would be. No, but she wasn't, she didn't even meet them for, for a little bit.

Like, she walked through the door and we were kind of speaking, but she was quiet at first. Okay, so. I would be too. And by the way, you said strike one as though there's, there's going to be more strict. Yes, we're going to find them, but that's your strike one. Okay. We're going to, we're going to identify where it went wrong. Okay.

So I walked in and I introduced her to Apple, and I tried to introduce her to Apple's girl that he had over. Didn't remember her name. So, you didn't? No. So, that's okay. Okay, cool. All right. So that's not strike two.

No. And then basically. I just gave her a tour of the house. I showed her her around. And then we went and played ping pong. And no. You showed her the ping pong room? Yeah,

I showed her the entire house. Was it just you and her? Yeah, just her and I. Yeah. So we were just like, this was like our first time really, just like talking.

Did you mention that she was into ping pong? She said she's never played before. She was terrible, man. I mean, yeah. And knowing you, you're very competitive. Yeah.

So I immediately just, you didn't go. You didn't go away. No, of course I went easy on her. Yeah, yeah. But anyways,

We kind of like flirted and talked about like our hobbies and passion and stuff like while we're playing ping pong. And then we started cooking up burgers. And then we ate some burgers. We kind of hung out. We then went in the hot tub with Apple and his date. Jack. And then your hot tub's tiny too.

No, it was sizable. And then Apple's date went home. Apple went upstairs. And then she stayed with me for about an hour and we kind of hung out on the couch and just chatted. And then she left and didn't get back to me over text, which is, you know, totally peachy. Maybe she'll get back to me in, like, the next week or so.

I think one thing I wanted to bring up was, Graham finally went on his first vacation in five years. Five, like a real vacation. Like, this was like a few days. He's been, like, on a couple day vacations and stuff. Real vacation. And I actually went to Ventura, which, if you guys didn't know,

is meet Kevin's hometown. And I hung out with Kevin basically every single day I was in Ventura, which is probably four or five days. And we went for runs and did stuff together. And I was talking with Kevin. we were wondering how this vacation is going to change you. And I said that there are one of two outcomes. One, you realize that you enjoy taking time off and you want to try to find other ways where

you'll be able to work and get ahead and kind of like optimize your work to be able to take these little vacations here and there because you enjoy the stress-free life of vacationing. Or two. The realistic answer. Two, exactly, would be that you had a nice time, but you were stressed and you kind of wanted to get back to work. And now since you're back at work, you feel more comfortable and you're excited to attack the next work day. And you're very content.

Definitely number two. I mean, there were parts of the vacation where I just wanted to wake up early and just work. And but I like that. Like, I like the feeling of if I could start, which Hawaii time I could start at like 4 o'clock in the morning, work until 11 or 12 and then I'm done. And I feel good. I feel energized. Like that's what gets me energized is working. My favorite part was definitely scuba diving.

There's nothing else like it. I loved that. And we went to a few nice dinners there. So it was cool. But yeah, day three, day four, I was just like, I don't know. I felt like I couldn't just do, I don't want to say do nothing,

because we did stuff all day long. But I liked, in a perfect world, I would have just woken up early, worked for six hours, and just had the rest of the day. So I'm more of a fan of the weekend trips. Like I would love leave a Friday night, come back Sunday.

Yeah, because, I mean, we really grinded to get ahead because I was helping Graham edit at the time and I think for a few days before that we were on it but I remember what you told me before you left he said it just feels so wasteful to get ahead and then post those videos on schedule and then not be ahead anymore I know we because we got a week ahead which which I had not been a week ahead in probably a year Maybe, no, probably two years for a full week on all three channels. And then to get back and be like, all right, back to square one again. Couldn't even enjoy the vacation.

No, I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it, but there was certainly a part of me where I was like, ooh, I could get ahead even more. So, Graham. Yeah. One thing that's happened was I started up my channel and Alex is starting up his channel. Yeah. I want to get your take. Whoa, whoa, first of all, I already had my channel.

Sorry. Bringing it back to life. You're going to start posting again. I want to know your opinion on our channels, and you watched one of my videos. You reacted to it on the Graham Steffen show. You never really said what you thought about the video as a whole. It's a good video.

It's a really good video. The skits were hilarious. You liked the skits. I did. Yeah. They were good. Thank you. They were...

Honestly, they're like that little... When you're watching the video, it's like that little gem that really... And I've learned to implement that... Graham's videos and I think you did a great job of it without even realizing. My only complaint was that it wasn't eight minutes. I know. But I didn't want to make it eight minutes. But your video is really good.

Thank you. You probably, I mean, the only thing is you probably would have been able to achieve 85 to 90% of the same thing with just 20% of that effort. Like you could have just held my phone and walked through the house. I didn't want 80% of the effort. I spent so much time on that video. I bet the video would be at 30,000 views for. regardless of you could have just posted a normal tour.

And save that time to post three more videos. I'm so confident that I am not going to adhere to some sort of posting schedule. Like I'm just going to post when I'm ready and when the final video is like done and it's quality, 10 out of 10 quality. No posting schedule for me. Okay. So Graham. Yeah. Are you afraid that Jack's channel might take off?

He wouldn't leave the podcast, though. I didn't say the podcast. Yes. But some of the other stuff No, Jack will find a way around it I'm not worried about it What do you think Jack? Yeah, that's true

Even if my channel like takes off Depending on what I'm doing It's like what if my channel takes off And all of a sudden people Want to see me travel somewhere Then there's going to be an issue But I will say most likely That's not going to happen

And I'm still going to continue living in Vegas Like like and I would not end the podcast Like that's my favorite thing That'd be a bad decision in general I think I agree Yeah What about the? opposite. What about me? What if I do well? I need to have some of the no compete contract.

Yeah, you really do. You got to have some sort of rake from his, uh, from his profits. No, I wouldn't take a, what about you? Like, like, I wouldn't take a, rake from a prop. No, because then it just seems petty. Yeah. Unless, like, Graham's collecting like $300 a month. I'm like, no, it's like, I would say, because like, I'm never going to ask Graham, like, hey, share my channel. I'm never going to be like, hey, shout me out. Like, that's just not me. That's probably not you. you. It's like, oh, no, I'm just kidding. Subscribe.

Just look up Jack Selby. I'm like the first thing that comes up, guys, subscribe. But no, people have been wanting to know that because I was reading the comments and stuff and people were. My thing is I'm always fine with it as long as it doesn't interfere with anything else. I think there is a chance the channel blows up, let's just say. But even then you run the risk of, I've seen so many channels blow up like that for a few months. and then they're dead after like six to eight months and they die. So you would have to not only blow up, but also sustain that for probably a year. You're going to have to really solidify yourself.

So it's possible, but I think at the end of the day, you wouldn't leave the podcast, everything else you'd find a way around it. And for you, for you, Alex, it would be tougher because it's harder to outsource that editing. But, I mean, it's just, I know how much work it takes to post. I don't know, it would have to be like a full-time thing. Yeah, I don't want it to be a full-time thing for me. I want it to be really fun. But what I did consider is if it did go well, I considered outsourcing my editing.

Yeah. Because at that point, it wouldn't be as much of a priority as the main channel is. And then it's like, you know, if I can find somebody, that's mine. First, we have to thank our sponsor, True Bill. Are you tired of paying subscriptions for services you barely use? Are you still getting charged? that Tinder platinum you definitely didn't sign up for? If you answered yes to any of those questions, our sponsor today, True Bill, is definitely a service that you're looking for.

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And back to the podcast. My next video Right now I'm researching the worst hotels And I'm going to go spend a night with Kelsey I love it That's a great idea For my honeymoon That's a good idea

I like it yeah So like we spent our honeymoon in the worst hotel Yes so we're getting we're having the wedding For those of you guys that don't know Kelsey's my fiancee we're getting married soon We're getting married in two two days two days but we're not having the wedding until next year um and so yeah i i thought if i had some free time that's a great idea yeah i like it a lot stay a sunday just just enjoy just the

whole thing the whole process in terms of finding the hotel calling them up booking showing up i want to see if they have a honeymoon suite that would be funny or i want to see like can i pay them extra to like get some chocolates or roses on the bed. Yeah, I want to see if they could do that. That's funny. I like the video idea a lot. Thank you. Came out with a bang or thumbnail and obviously refine that title a little bit. Yeah. Good video. That could do really

well. I agree. I appreciate it. Especially if it's filmed well. Yeah. We have a tasty nice that style where you set up the camera and then you'd like get away and you start talking. Yeah. But you come up to it. Oh and then take a black light. Like do you remember that one? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. who they would inspect hotel rooms and they'd get there with the black lights

and they'd look through the bed. Do you guys think? Kelsey doesn't know about this. Do you think I should like not tell her? Yeah, don't tell her. It's better. But if it's for content, she'd be like, okay. She'd also be shocked. Just say we're going to be studying at a hotel.

We got a really good deal. It's just going to be great. And then get her reaction in the entire. And say you're going to be filming it so you could use it as a ride off. Yeah. I like that. I just thought this would be a great night.

And it's just thought this would be a great night. Yeah. And it'd be cool to like, obviously depending on how the night goes, but maybe bring some like activities that we could do. And just at the end of the, I wanted to have a wholesome ending at the end. But I don't want it to be about a relationship. I want it to be about the hotel. Okay. Yeah.

Well, thank you guys. I really appreciate that. So guys, we have a very special announcement. We actually have another guest coming on. You won't believe who it is. All right. Come on in. So welcome our new guest.

Thanks for coming on. Yeah. Hi, thanks for having me. You just appeared. Alex was just there. What happened? Yeah, I don't know. I mean, even the seat reset and everything.

Macy, we're so excited to have you here. You're actually doing something very fascinating this month. Blogmas. Yeah, it has been... Yeah, I would imagine. I don't know how it's so word that. Yeah, so essentially I'm taking on the job of three people as one person. And Graham knows I just have not had any time.

She's been posting for vlogmas. basically means you post one video every single day for the entire month of December. Yeah. And even like with the way I edit and the way I do my videos, I spent the whole time Alex was in here and before I left earlier, just trying to find a few videos that I liked for fun little intro to pull tiny quotes of people talking about Bitcoin. Oh, that's right. Guess what?

This is big. Macy bought her first Bitcoin. No, you didn't. Yes. For reference, because I do get asked this a lot. I only own $100 a doge coin and now $300 of Bitcoin. I don't put anything into cryptocurrency. I'm not willing to just let burn.

So probably won't be investing a lot more into it. I honestly, like, it's just something I don't 100% believe in. And I know stocks so much better than crypto. So I don't, it's not like, it feels a little bit more like a gamble to me because I don't know what I'm doing. Yeah. So someone's knocking at the door. You want to let them in? Yeah.

It's Jack's girlfriend. So we also have another guest coming on the podcast. Yeah, there you go. Welcome Bailey. Oh, my God. So, so, Macy. She just wants me to rub her shoulders. What's your qualm with cryptocurrency?

All right. We got to know the drama. What happened between you and crypto? Well, nothing's really happened. My whole issue is that it's just harder for me to research and I'm not as well versed in it. Like I've always, I've had a very keen understanding of stocks, I think, especially for, like, you know, I don't know a lot of other girls in high school. that were interested in mutual funds and ETFs and stuff like that.

And so things like that have always understood and had an easier time understanding because like companies, okay, I can understand what you're doing a little bit better. I can understand what your product is, understanding like because I've worked HR rules and different stuff and I've seen how people get paid, kind of looking, okay, you've this many employees, this is your administrative costs. Makes sense and stuff. I don't have that for cryptocurrency and I don't have, like I just, I'm so uneducated. more my quam.

I called Bitcoin a stablecoin and people had to correct me and say that's not. Yes. When did that happen? In a vlog a few days ago. Wow. I think it's what's called a stable coin. I don't know. It's just like an OG.

Yikes. Yeah, that's tough. That's exactly why I'm not in crypto. It's because I know I don't understand it. But you could research it though. I think many times better spend on stocks. I've made so much more off of stocks than I would. even with how much I have in like my cryptocurrencies,

if it does not do what it does with N-phase, I'm like, well, why wouldn't I just find another N-phase? Like my original N-phase investment was like $500, and I'm like up like a few hundred percent on that now. Well, Ethereum's up like 1500% though. I think it's over the last two years. 1500%. Yeah, but you're also kind of a crypto-sceptic as well.

Like you have extremely small portfolio allocation to it. It's like 6%. Yeah, that's like not that much. Like when you look at other people like like Andre and even Kevin I think has I don't know how much. No, in terms of. No, he trades in terms of dollar amount. Kevin is more than me, but I have almost as much as Andre. I just don't understand it.

That's my whole thing. It's like I don't understand it. So it's not smart for me to be investing in this. It's just like if you had somebody who their whole life, they only invested in real estate. You try to say, hey, you should invest in stocks. It's just a whole other world that I have a harder time wrapping my. brain around. Yeah, I agree with the sentiment that if you find something that you're good at investing in, you should just continue investing in that and kind of find your like specialization, kind of like what

grand did with real estate. So I agree with that. But you know what, Mesa, you like, you like dogs, right? Oh my God. Well, there is a cryptocurrency for dogs. Oh my God. I know. I, I, to support the Dogecoin because I think he's a great person, I bought $100 of Dogecoin. It is a challenge. Like, I definitely don't think I know enough about cryptocurrencies, but I still invest a pretty significant amount of my portfolio into crypto. Like I'm probably at like 12 to 14% right now. That's why it dropped. And I'm going to continue buying into.

Speaking of which, did you sell Robin Hood? I have not sold Robin Hood. Can you do it now? No, I don't want to say, well, first of all, it's not during market hours. For those that don't know,

we're recording this at like, I don't even know what time it is like nine? So it sells in the morning. 833. Yeah, but just place to sell and then it goes to the morning. That's the issue, man. We were at the gym,

I don't know how long this was. Like four weeks ago, five weeks ago. And I, I kind of looked over at Graham's phone as you do, and I noticed he was purchasing a stock. And usually when Graham purchases a stock, I'm like, ooh, how can I lose both he and I a little bit more money today? So I looked at the stock and it was Robin Hood.

And then I went immediately on my phone, didn't mention anything. And Graham then did the exact same thing to me that I just did to Graham. And he peaked over at my phone and saw that I was replicating his trade. And immediately he was like, no, no, no, no, don't do that. Don't do it. Because every time I buy a stock, guys. It drops. It drops.

You want to know the worst part of this that you probably aren't aware of. He sees me trade that stock. Then he goes and does that. And then you see him do it. So you're also doing this. It's a chain reaction. I've noticed when Macy brings up to me, I'll buy it secretly. And it does go up.

Adobe was one of those stocks. And I just bought it. Honestly, I didn't do any research. I was like, yeah, you know what? I may as well. That's stressful. No, because it's a small enough amount where I don't care. If it drops, it's not going to drop 50%.

I was like, the worst case is it drops 20%. I don't care. So, but they've all done well. A Givo. Oh gosh, you mentioned Givo when it was like $4. And that it went heavy in Gvo and then it went to like 15. In my opinion, Giva's overvalued. I don't know.

A little bit. Like I, especially like when it was shooting up to 20, I was like, what is going on here? This is just shooting up because like the founder was listed as the head of science for Biden. Yes. Okay, but this has nothing to do with the company. Well, it's credibility. But now, Jack, on the other hand, buys it. So I immediately plummet.

Just don't buy it. Like, the one stock, please don't buy it. He's like, I'm going to buy it. And then sure enough, it tanks the next day. 52 week low. Yeah, literally. It's 52 week low. They miss earnings.

They get hacked. And they're the lowest level they've ever been. Yeah, I bought probably like a month ago, and I'm already down, like, nearly 40%. It's really bad. And I bought in really heavy, too. As an experiment, I told Jack, please just sell it. And we'll just see how it does. You could buy back in after 30 days.

But take the loss now, write it off, and just do me that favor. How much you have invested in Robin Hood? How much did I invest? How much did you invest in Robin Hood? 220 grand. And what's it at now? 140, 150. Oh, my God.

So that's why I get upset because when Jack does it, it's like, $100. Durp-da-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d. No, it was a... significant amount of money. No, I invested, I want to say it was close to 10 grand that I invested in. It's not worth me losing like seven, eight times that. So you could invest your 10. Well, I didn't think you'd lose that.

I still believe as a company, there's nothing wrong with it. But the only thing wrong is the jacket's in and they're drunk. It's kind of alleged that they purposely had influencers pump it up right before. Well, it's not alleged. But they know that, but every company is. Like, Tattooed Chef did a huge marketing push, right? It's just, there's nothing red-five. Robin Hood's, it's a good app and see OG and all that, but it's been problematic.

I love Robin Hood. It's like the best UI of any brokerage. Options is also nice. Like, it just can get new users so easily. And you can't see TD doing stuff like that, you know, or Schwab. Right. But there's pretty good competitors out there who haven't been hacked five, times now.

Yeah, but even for me, I don't even care. I don't even care at this one. It's like Robin Hood, get hacked, whatever. It's like, my account's fine, right? And I love the way it looks. It's just so pretty. And you swipe up to trade. But the stock price cares because you bought it.

Yeah. So I just want to see if you sell, how does that impact the price the next day? It's going up, Graham. It's going up. Then let me make my money back. But what about me? Okay, you're saying I just got to lock in this loss on Robin Hood? Jack, can we circle back to that you like Robin Hood?

Hood as an app because it's pretty and you swipe up yeah and it looks it looks pretty I feel like you're treating it as like a dating app well you swipe yeah I love swiping it's great yeah I mean Robin hood isn't my favorite brokerage or platform I suppose like I like M1 and one's kind of cool too it's fine but please sell you told me you're gonna sell Adele is your favorite yeah anytime I've had to call them too they're like do you need to change your address today is there anything we can help you with is there anything I can do with you I'm like, and you're on the phone with them within five minutes. I'm like, this is great.

Like, as I'm making my morning tea by the time it's done, like I'm already on the phone with somebody. Their app sucks. Yeah. I'm testing out like the super sketchy platform right now called Trade Zero. You know Trade Zero? Oh, Trade Zero. Wait, wait.

That's the one Stephen Ducks. So we had this guy, Stephen Ducks on the podcast. We still haven't posted it yet. We're probably going to post it sometime soon. And he's like a short-term like day trader. and basically he said, Jack, if you put $30,000 into this platform, I can guarantee you, basically.

I can turn that to $200,000 in a few months. How's that going? Well, I've made one trade so far. Bailey did not like the trade. Yeah. Well, he basically, he promised me he could basically turn $30,000 to $200,000. And I was like, obviously, very wide-eyed at this.

I was like, yeah, get me in on this somehow. And he said he would give me the $30,000 to start off, And I was like I felt too like wrong taking his money because I also wanted to be kind of true It's like if I do all of the trades I put it in all the data myself, you know all the buys all the cells and stuff like that Then it will feel more real if I turn 30,000 to 200,000 so anyways He gave us one signal I was on do not disturb so I missed the signal and And yeah and my housemate Apple went in on the trade and he made I think he made like six hundred dollars from like two grand So it was a really really good trade and he

made it in 15 minutes. And then the next trade, this was, I think last week or two weeks ago, I went in with $5,000 and I made $1,700 on the trade. Not bad. Okay. Extremely good. So he's two for two on the trades right now. Trade zero the brokerage looks terrible. It looks really bad, but I'm making money so far on it. And it's pretty exciting. I did not think that the trade Stephen would give me would be successful two out of two times. But once again, I don't Don't endorse day trading at all. I'm just reporting it how it is. I'm noticing you guys are finding Bailey very distracting.

I'm so used to doing this while filming if I'm talking and just petting her. So that way she stays relatively still. But it's really distracting for you guys. No, I don't think it's that distracting. In fact, I think it's kind of nice. The viewers would probably appreciate Bailey. The viewers are going to love it. Yeah.

So, Macy, I already spoke to Graham about this. But what was your opinion on the Hawaii vacation? Oh my gosh. I could have stayed there for like a month. I loved it. And what was your favorite thing you didn't know why? Probably the scuba. I think part of me liked the snubah because I didn't like have all the stuff

strapped on to me, but I did run into a sea urchin. Or I got stabbed, actually. If you saw my video, I got stabbed by a sea urchin. And I do have the footage of that as well because I strapped a GoPro onto myself. But yeah, I think the scuba was just awesome. I liked swimming around with things. It was a lot of fun. It's all like turtles, like a foot for my head that I didn't know where they're just turned over and be like, oh, gosh, they don't care.

That's cool. Yeah. So you want to vacation again sometime soon? Oh, I would love to. What? What do you think about that, Graham? I get with the point that Graham and I are in our lives that it's hard. Even I want to go back and see my family right now, but I can't.

It's hard for me. It's just, you know, kind of the tradeoff is you work hard, young in your life. And, you know, then you can start taking those vacations. later on. That's kind of what we both talked about. I would say if you visit your family, though, that's content. Because then it's like traveling. Then it's seeing your family. You get the whole interaction with you and your family.

And you get to see them at the same time. So I would encourage that. Yeah, I think that would actually keep your vlog a little dynamic, you know? Yeah. Yeah, no, I mean, I get that. I'm also doing that workout challenge right now. It's so hard for me to travel. Yeah, 60 gnarly workouts 60 days in a row, right?

Yeah, 60 days. Well, actually, funny. So what we found out, going through it with my personal trainer and dietitian, well, you get a personal trainer with this, but it was like someone I usually attended their workout classes. I overwork out and I don't eat enough. So this challenge has been workout less and eat more. And that's been the real challenge for me because I stopped working out so heavy.

So my stomach shrunk. And so now when I'm trying to eat foods, like I eat a banana and I'm stuffed for hours. and I need to be eating more. Yeah. Yeah, do they want you to put on muscle? Like it seems like, okay, then that's... Yeah, so that was my goal is I wanted to build muscle. Okay.

Oh. Oh, interesting. I'll be chiseled by the end. But you would think to be, well, I guess you build muscle and then you restrict carbs, so you do the cut. So then you could lose that to get shredded? You need carbs. Like, it's very important.

It's a bulk up, right. For me, it's more just about wanting to be able to, move my body a little bit less than like looks. I mean, you know, it is nice to feel like I look good, but, um, ooh. Scary. We got to zoom in on your face right there, Jeff. That was horrifying. No, it's just more for me about feeling that strength.

There's something super cool to me too about like, you know, I lost my ability to walk. Yeah. If you keep working out that much, you're going to be stronger than Graham. Oh, let's not get ahead of it. We did an arm wrestle and, uh, I was the, the, the chance. You know what, Graham? I also was the victor arm wrestling Macy. It would be kind of interesting to see who would be the victor between you and I.

Yeah. What I will say is that I could beat you in like a planking challenge super. Oh yeah, oh yeah, planks. So like there are certain ways I'm already stronger than you, but arms, no. Who do you think? The ground, you just always maintain arm muscle mass. Like if I stop working out, my arms just go, noodle. Yeah, mine just keep getting bigger if I don't work them out.

Makes no sense. No, it doesn't. Who would win arm wrestling? Who would win? I have a, my thinking is that you would win, Jack, because your arms are longer than mine. So I think you would have more leverage on my arm. I think Graham's going to win. I think it's going to be tough.

But Graham just immediately flopped me over. And you and I had two seconds before you push me over. So I think it's going to be pretty. Do you want to judge me? You want to settle this right now? Yeah, sure. Let's do it. Two, one.

Oh, my God. It hurt my elbow, though. That's the thing. I was closer with Jack. Ow. You're strong. But you know what? But yeah, it's, it's, I had a feeling you would, you'd win.

You have a longer. I may have had a more advantageous position since I could, like, kind of, I wouldn't have to lean so far back off the table. Yeah, I don't know. That's probably it. Anyways, gang. Thank you so much for coming on, Macy. Thanks, Graham, for making this happen with me. This is our first midweek episode ever.

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it's a lot easier to book guests. And I would love to ramp up production of this podcast and just continually post maybe five times a month, then six times a month, and just start adding more midweeks. So for guests, would you put people on that,

like maybe the channel's seen before, like Jeremy. Yeah, we're going to continue. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, we're going to continue doing people like that for midweeks. But big guests, like new people and stuff, ideally that would be reserved for the Sunday.

But I'm really happy to start, filming more podcasts and people have been asking for it for a while. So yeah. Yeah. I think recurring guests could be more so midweek. Yeah. Jeremy, Kevin Andre. Yeah. Absolutely.

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