The Indicator from Planet Money - How Japan’s new prime minister is jolting markets

Episode Date: December 3, 2025

Sanae Takaichi was sworn in as Japan’s first female prime minister a little over a month ago, and she’s already making waves in the East and West. The first priority for the people of Japan is if ...her government can fix the country’s cost-of-living problem. Today on the show, we break down what Sanaeonomics could mean for the Land of the Rising Sun.Related episodesHow Japan is trying to solve the problem of shrinking villagesJapan had a vibrant economy. Then it fell into a slump for 30 yearsFor sponsor-free episodes of The Indicator from Planet Money, subscribe to Planet Money+ via Apple Podcasts or at plus.npr.org. Fact-checking by Sierra Juarez. Music by Drop Electric. Find us: TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, Newsletter. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for sponsorship and to manage your podcast sponsorship preferences.NPR Privacy Policy

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Starting point is 00:00:00 NPR. Japan's economy has been going sideways since the 1990s. Economic growth was barely there, and it was even grappling with deflation. You know, prices falling. But now, for the first time in about 30 years, inflation has started to bite. And that's helped pave the way
Starting point is 00:00:31 for a new prime minister with a colorful and radical streak. In a big, Yossi Niko. In October, Sinai Takeichi became leader of the conservative liberal Democratic Party, or LDP. She was soon sworn in as Japan's first female prime minister. In one of her early speeches, she said she's throwing away the phrase work-life balance for herself. She's saying she's throwing away the work-life balance and she would work and work and work. Yes, Sinaiateake-I is a little hardcore.
Starting point is 00:01:07 As the most indolent member of the indicator staff, I simply cannot relate. Her secret is true story, drumming heavy metal. She was also a TV personality and has sung karaoke in front of the nation. Takeichi is nationalistic and telegenic. So naturally, she and U.S. President Donald Trump got along famously when Trump visited Japan in October. She presented Trump with a gold-leaf golf ball and a putter that belonged to the late Japanese Japanese Prime Minister Shenzhou Abe, who was her mentor. Less positive is Takaichi's relationship with China.
Starting point is 00:01:48 Beijing is steaming after her comments on Taiwan. And on Japan's ailing economy, Takaichi's moves have been no less bold. This is the indicator from planet money. I'm Darien Woods. And I'm Waylon Wong. Today on the show, Sinaionomics, we visit the world's fourth largest economy
Starting point is 00:02:08 and learn how Sinai Takahichi wants to fix it. it. To better understand whether Sinai Takahichi can reinvigorate the Japanese economy, we have to first make a diagnosis. And we can read Japanese economic indicators all day. A lost 30 years of basically flat incomes, the yen falling. But what does it feel like to live in Japan right now? We hit the streets of Kobe, one of Japan's large cities. Hi, my name is Julie Wynne. Jir Lee works at a mental health clinic. Things are a bit tight financially recently. I just got the post and I'm raising four kids and I work for a part-time job.
Starting point is 00:02:55 Julie wasn't happy about rising prices. Everything's increasing so much like groceries electrically, like just basic costs for a living. We also spoke with Cano Oconda, a grad student, at Colbert University. And she echoed this complaint. I was like a life crisis going high. So did Yucahiro Imanari,
Starting point is 00:03:20 an advisor at a science and policy network. Basically, we have enough money to live, but you fear the rise of the prices. The people we spoke to had their own views of what they were hoping for from the Prime Minister, support for working mothers, more money for scholarships, avoiding immigration crackdowns.
Starting point is 00:03:39 Sounds awfully familiar. Yeah, things like child, college costs immigration, and of course, the cost of living. That was the common thread. So what could Sinai Takaichi do to combat price rises? As we've talked about before, most economists would agree that politicians don't actually hold the big lever to fight inflation. That's primarily the responsibility of the central bank, raising interest rates to slow down borrowing and spending in the economy and bring down inflation. So step number one is to get out of the way of the Bank of Japan.
Starting point is 00:04:11 The Bank of Japan has been slowly raising interest rates from basically zero, where they were for about two decades. Yeah, for decades they were struggling to get any inflation, and a small amount is good for an economy. And that return to lifting interest rates has been called normalization. Fumigato is a lecturer in East Asian political economy at the University of Sheffield. The Prime Minister wants slower pace of normalization. Basically, Tagaichi wants lower interest rates than the central bank does. Lower interest rates would be the opposite of what's needed to curb inflation. Sure, it could mean cheaper mortgages or car loans,
Starting point is 00:04:50 but all that extra borrowing by people and businesses would be more spending, which would lead to higher prices. We asked Wumigato whether the prime minister could influence the central bank in Japan. There may be some kind of theoretical independence, but I think it's difficult for the central bank to directly goes against what the government wants. It's difficult for the Bank of Japan to go against what the government wants, partly because there's government representatives actually sitting at the table when the central bank makes its decisions. Yeah, those eyeballs are kind of quite intimidating. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:25 So even though the Bank of Japan is legally independent from the government, the reality is more complex. You often see the two coordinate policies. So Fumi thinks it could be possible that Takeiichi's preferences for lower interest rates could be taken into account. But politicians can do more than get out of the way of the central bank. They can also make the central bank's job easier by taking their foot off the fiscal accelerator. That's step number two, basically pulling back on spending or taxing more, less borrowing. The current administration is more interested in fiscal expansion and then strengthening the military. So the opposite of cutting back.
Starting point is 00:06:07 In November, Takaichi's cabinet approved a $100,000. $35 billion stimulus package. That means more borrowing and spending. Broadly, this kind of borrowing and spending worsens inflation. There is a third step that could reduce inflation, and that's if Japan's productivity increases. Productivity could be the skeleton key that unlocks not just stable prices, but increased wages, too. So it's important. One way to increase productivity could be to invest in infrastructure or industries that allows Japan to make more stuff or be more efficient. Fumi says Takaichi is trying to spend more money to make Japan's exports more competitive in certain industries like semiconductors. So the results of this is to be seen.
Starting point is 00:06:54 Another potential way to increase productivity is increased immigration, bring in more skills and ideas and labor that could grow Japan's businesses. But Fumi says Takaichi is a nationalist, so that's not her. her first instinct. She would like to restrict the influence of immigrants. So overall, Sinai Takeichi seems like a bold leader, but not one that follows economic orthodoxy. She wants lower interest rates, more spending, less immigration. That explains why investors aren't convinced. The day that Takeiji's big stimulus package was announced, the Japanese Niki stock market fell two and a half percent. And interest rates on loans to the Japanese government are even higher
Starting point is 00:07:36 than they were in the 2008 financial crisis. The everyday people we heard from in Japan didn't vote for Takeichi directly. Japan has a parliamentary system, so you vote for parties and representatives not for prime ministers. But these people in Kobe had their views. Julie Wen, the mental health worker and mother
Starting point is 00:07:55 had positive first impressions. She seems like strong and reliable. So, yeah, hopefully. She can help families or, yeah, working moms. But we also need to see how she actually does. Kanakonda, the graduate student, was more circumspect. I don't know, it's not going to really, like, directly affect my final situation. And Yuki Hira in Manari, the science and policy advisor, was less of a Takaichi supporter.
Starting point is 00:08:34 In fact, he was worried. I'm a little bit afraid of this person because I see her on the far right wing of WDP. Because I'm Japanese national, I think I will be fine, but my wife is a foreigner. I could imagine that at some point I would say, oh, let's go away from this country. I cannot do it here anymore. Overall, though, Sinai Takeichi's rambunctious approach is winning over Japanese voters. Takeichi's administration now enjoys around a 70% approval rating. But with inflation showing no signs of slowing down, we'll see how long that lasts.
Starting point is 00:09:14 This episode was produced by Angel Carreras, Catherine Yang, and Corey Bridges, with engineering by Kwayze. It was fact-checked by Sierra Juarez. Kekin-Kannon edits the show and The Indicator is a production of NPR.

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