The Ins & Outs - Bathroom Layouts & Deadly Plants

Episode Date: December 12, 2023

In this episode Jojo dives into bathroom layouts, giving her top tips and highlighting easy mistakes that you really must avoid.Polly gives us her favourite trees and then tackles your questions on garden dilemmas, including what to do with ugly plants that the previous owner grew in your garden?!Plus the girls have a few glasses of bubbles and open some Christmas presents from Love Honey.... what could go wrong!This episode is brought to you by our amazing sponsor B&Q, go and check them out on the link below!SponsorsB&Q - https://www.diy.com/InstagramPodcast - @the_insandouts_Jojo - @houseninedesignPolly - @pollyanna_wilkinsonProducer Andy - @andy_rowe_WebsitesJojo - https://www.housenine.co.uk/Polly - https://www.pollyannawilkinson.com/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Let's take one, two, three. Green, the colour of true elation Pine on a summer's day See I've been waiting for you Waiting for you Hello Innies and Outies, it's Polly here. Now before we dive into this very special Christmas episode of the Inns and Outs, sponsored by our brilliant sponsors B&Q,

just wanted to explain that the audio isn't quite as good as it usually is in this. And that's because Jojo and I decided to have an impromptu Christmas party and recorded this with a couple of bottles of champagne in hand. So apologies that the audio isn't quite as brilliant as it normally is. Now, in this episode, about 10 minutes in,

we're going to be answering all of your questions from the best bathroom layout to kitchen work surfaces, my top five trees and whether you can get rid of plants that you don't love in your garden. But before that we're going to talk about why Jojo urinates on trampolines and we're going to open a little surprise box for Love Honey 2. oh oh here we go that's a happy sound merry christmas i went with a double glug i have been so excited because the studio in the garden is finished how exciting it is it is how exciting it's sexual and the walls are covered in a white paint i walked in and they'd primed all of the cladding.

Obviously, I clad it because I follow where I'm led. And they primed it all with a very bright white and I was completely appalled and thinking, oh Christ, I've made a massive mistake here. You did call me and say, oh my God, it's very white. Yes. Yes, it's not. And then I realised that was the primer and went back in

and actually, it's this beautiful white that when it's sat on white, looks like putty. But now's finished looks like white oh i love it it's it's a really warm cozy white i can't wait so it's what a joy i honestly we developed that paint for quite a while with coat because finding the perfect white and people talk about this a lot there's there are whites and there's whites and there's whites with yellow in them, and there's whites with pink undertones, and there's whites with grey undertones, and I wanted something that was just a dead neutral. What's the Jojo white?

It's a... What do you mean? Is it a yellow one? I believe it was. No, it's a very neutral... You could put anything with it. So the idea is that it doesn't have hints of yellow. If anything, it's probably got hints of earthy neutrals on that it would be on the sort of light neutral brown spectrum all right well that's enough plugging your paint but i am hugely fond of it anyway go and find us on coat coat paints

good right but also the real highlight has been buying potted Stilton and eating it with a spoon. Mmm. Mmm. How do you eat your Stilton? Just straight up, straight.

You know how it comes in a pot at Christmas? Little jar. Yeah, lovely jar, yeah. So, teaspoon. Nice. It feels like eating yoghurt but it's not.

Is it true what they say about nightmares and dreams? Not in my world. Lots of smelly cheese is supposed to give you funky nightmares. I'm actually thinking it's sorts of funky things, pal. Funky I know what.

If you drink too much cheese, we all know what happens. What? It's not good, is it? It's not good down below, is it? I don't have that problem. You do. You do. You're just trying to be lady.

No, you do. You do. And everyone listening knows what i mean speak for yourself pal well i'm a cheese she was she was smelted she didn't deal anything honey she smelted oh addy we miss you we miss you anyway so other than that just christmasing yes yeah good christmas It is so full on this time of year. It has just been, I am fucking exhausted, I'll be honest. I've just, did you just lick my glass or is that mine?

Well, it's the one with the lipstick. You're right. Thank you. It has just been the most full on time of year with little ones and kids and kids' parties and kids' end of term and nursery and, oh my God, I don't even know what I'm talking about, Christmas parties. Social events, loads of social events with work. I'll take you to start. Holly, I've been to so many social events. I've just been invited to so many things.

I don't know what to do with myself. Every night I'm out. What about you, Paul? Oh, do fuck. What have you done in the house? What have you done in the garden? Right. In the house, I have dressed the house for Christmas. Excellent. I did something quite tactical, which is probably one of the most brilliant things I think anyone should do with small children. As you can see behind you is my tree. Now, I never thought of myself as a control freak when it came to my Christmas tree. But I discovered this year that I absolutely am. Because when my little ones started dressing the Christmas tree with me, which is obviously the most amazing experience.

Yes, magical. Magical, happy memories. Magical, magical, happy times. And I loved that with them. But as soon as they left the room, of course I took everything off and put them back on again. Obviously.

So I bought them their own little £20 Christmas tree from B&Q that's white and it's covered in snow. Oh, that's adorable. And it has little lights and I put it in their bedroom. And that's going to be their Christmas tree every year.

And all the decorations that didn't suit my tree can go on their tree. Can I ask you a really important question? You always can. Do you partake in the elf? I don't do it. I did it once. Well, this is what we did. And quite frankly, I think the idea of it's lovely,

but Ziggy is one of those kids that called us out immediately. She was like, you put that there. He's not real. Like when she was two years old. No, she sees through everything we do. I love her. She's too smart. She's one of those.

Brad once was running through the garden in a Santa outfit. Yeah, she called us out. She's two years old. And we had this whole scene planned where Daddy ran out of the room. Off he went. And I heard noises upstairs. I was like, oh my God, Ziggy, Santa's coming. It's Christmas Eve.

So I was like, I think he's upstairs. So he crept up the stairs so quietly. I've actually got it on video. Crept up the stairs and peeped around the corner and there was Santa Claus sitting on the sofa eating the mince pie and drinking whiskey. And she just looked at me and she went, that's daddy, mummy, that's daddy.

Like that, daddy. She could hardly speak at the time. Legend. Daddy. But from the went, that's Daddy, Mummy, that's Daddy. Like that, Daddy. She could hardly speak at the time. Legend. Daddy. But from the side, when I would have been, I thought it was Santa. Did he have something up his... Yeah, the whole, really good, like, white beard.

We went, you know, first child vibes. She wasn't having any of that. She was like, that's Daddy. I like that. And then when Daddy came in afterwards, he's like, oh, hi, baby, wearing his T-shirt. What's going on? She was like you santa

we've got a little surprise this week oh my gosh haven't we just our friends at love honey have sent us a box of goodies they have and you and i are going to fight over what we find in there so should we find out oh my god what we've got i'm so excited for anyone that doesn't know love honey sell sex toys and sort of gear for... Lingerie sex toys. Pelvic floor trainers. Yes, which I... As soon as you said that,

I did that thing where I clenched my pelvic floor. I went to this really weird thing the other day. I went to this beauty convention because I take all I can get. And it's this chair that you sit on. It's a flat chair and it's literally for your pelvic floor, and it vibrates, it does this sort of...

thing, and you sit with your legs straight for half an hour. That sounds enjoyable. It's quite expensive, and it does this... And it literally works on your pelvic floor muscle. Is that what it's doing? I don't know about you, but I can't go on the kids' trampoline. I can't? No.

Did you have natural labour? one natural one c-section so maybe maybe that helped yeah one of each i had both natural and no trampolining no trampolining i said i can't go to the jump park around the corner with the girls i'll do a few jumps and i'm like you need to stop now no a lot of friends say this it's not it's not something i have yeah oh well maybe i should be grateful for the c-section very grateful instead i have a scar that looks like a night tick so pros and cons pros and cons i don't have that but i used a um i used a brilliant little device when i was having my girls called the epi no and it's this device that you pop up there and you blow it up and you train but after 32 weeks you train it's a birth trainer

and you pump it up stretch everything out it stretches it it stretches your oh Christ the walls to the size of a baby's head so by the time

you have a baby the baby comes out I didn't so much as have a tear don't get me wrong I had two very very long and arduous

I didn't mine didn't pop out they were 36 hours both my babies but that I didn't have so much They were 36 hours, both my neighbours. But I didn't have so much to scratch. Fond memories. But I now pee myself when I go on a trampoline.

Maybe a bit of an overshare, but, you know. Oh, I think we're quite comfortable with that on this podcast. Just dropped another 2% of our mail following. Bye, boys. Bye-bye.

So, shall we open our bag of tricks? Yes, come on then. Right, we've got two little boxes here. I had not opened these. They were like, oh no, here's the thing. These got delivered to my office. And I specifically gave Polly orders to make sure that she put private

when sending them to my office. And of course the lovely Karen in my office opened them. They didn't say private., the lovely Karen in my office opened them. They didn't say private. Well, let's find out what Karen found. She sent me a little WhatsApp saying, I've just opened something that looks very exciting. I'm really sorry.

Anyway, right. I'm going to open them up. You can hold my mic. Give me the mic. Right. So what I want... I don't know what that smell was. What?

What friends did love honey send us? Blimey. Oh, there's a mini bullet. Gosh, this looks fun doesn't it i'm not what is that looks very much like a cork ring no i think it's like something but i think you asked me when you're sewing nipple things are they not are they not symbols they look like symbols i think they're nipple suckers. So that is a beginner's bondage set. Blimey. That is a beautiful advent calendar.

That is really cool. That's fun for the whole family. I want all my girls to find it. Okay, come on. Shall we quickly open 50? Number one, let's quickly open this. Then we'll go on what's in it. Then we'll get on some of your questions.

It's far more. Here we go. What is it? Number uno. It's time for us, darling. It's time for us. Oh, so this is like a couple's advent calendar. That's quite nice.

That is nice. A little gift for you both. Yeah. Okay, hold on. Let's have a look. So this is the Amaral Fana. What is it? I can't bear it.

Oh, my. This is great. Oh, it's a bullet. It's a bullet. And it's a remote-controlled bullet. It's a remote-controlled bullet. I can wear it at work. Oh, my gosh. Hello, hello team i've never smiled so

much at work that is this is a really premium advent card that is so cool sorry what do we got uh a pelvic floor exercise trainer and app so i think we know which one of us needs this i would take this all day long so this is called the lv the lv which a lot of people i've heard have absolutely raved about this is a pelvic floor exercise trainer and app your most personal trainer and it's you're going to be bouncing on a trampoline before you know it my friend thank you very much love honey for the what is going to be a very eventful christmas that was fun i have to say okay so it is time for some questions i have got a question from an innie for jojo black granite worktops are they coming back or should i change them and that is from the

cat i i don't like black granite granite worktops they have a place i'll tell you what i don't like about them i don't like the shininess of them so if you like granite don't feel you have to go polished consider honed everybody honed is much softer honed means it hasn't been polished it's like a it's a dulled down version my preference is honed marble so not polished that sounds expensive no it's no different no no polish just means it looks shiny and honed is unpolished so it's matte the issue with matte it's a little bit like leaving for you it would be like leaving a an outdoor stone unsealed unsealed so honed is unsealed however the lovely thing about it i don't know if you if you go to an antique market you'll see like those lovely um marble pestle and morsel yes fabulous they're never polished they're honed okay honed marble

over time the beauty of honed is that it sort of marks it's soft it's it does mark but if you're in a say sun is shining on it it doesn't shine and therefore actually i think personally when you have a polished work top you're much more likely to see any scratches and discrepancies and stains than you are at home so actually one of those it's a little bit like i'm a i'm a lover of traditional old things so i love i love unlackered brass for instance what I love about unlacquered brass is what happens to it when it tarnishes and the water gets to it and it starts to go a bit gnarly looking

that is part of the beauty of it and marble is the same, so anything like black granite So taking it back to Kat's question, which is should she keep it or should she change it, I think she's hoping it's going to come back I don't think it's going to come back, no So big question for you, because to me, I know nothing about kitchens, but for me, what I've seen is you've got the kind of composite worktops,

wood or marble, right? And marble seems to be very fashionable right now. Everyone, the dream seems to be a really lovely marble worktop. Is that going to go out of fashion? I don't think that's ever been. Is that going to go the way of the blue velvet sofa? No, marble can't. It's a natural material. It's never been out of fashion. So it's black granite time? No, but it's what we do to it is. Okay. So marble is a, black granite is, but it's not. It's a marble is, I do think the veining has gone, we've gone really OTT on. It's big heavy veins, isn't it? It's like the blue cheese look it's like really big and I think there's a way of doing it so perhaps They are stunning though. It's stunning

and I personally can't imagine how anyone would ever get over that. I think for me it's probably what you put around it that's going to date more than the actual marble. I mean marble is just Yum. Oh it's just yummy, edible. You don't use it outside It's like that pot of stilton you just want to eat it It is just delicious I can't. It's like that pot of stilton you just want to eat it. It is just delicious.

I can't. It's a no, I mean I but marble is so expensive but actually I say that quartz, we've cost up a lot for clients' kitchens and they ask for you know, cost for quartz and marble

because they assume marble is going to be a lot more expensive and actually good quality quartz now is almost as expensive as Carrara marble. There's different variants. Carrara? What's Carrara?

Carrara is probably one of the cheapest marbles and it's almost as expensive as Carrara marble. Carrara? What's Carrara? Carrara is probably one of the cheapest marbles, and it's that very mottled grey. Yeah. There are different variations, and you can obviously go and choose your slab. When you choose any work type, you can choose the slab that you're going to have, because it comes on a big slab. It's a slice. It's like a slice. And then you can choose the slice that you have.

Just heaven. I just want to go and choose a load of marble. It's really fun. If anyone, for a fun day out, go to a marble showroom and they pick out, they use this crane and they pick up these pieces of slabs of marble and you just think, that's come from under the earth.

I mean, that's an amazing thing. It's totally natural. Sliced in this beautiful cross section and it's laid in your kitchen. How fabulous. Oh, but can I just quickly say on the black granite, the reason that she's probably not liking it is probably because it's black and it's heavy it's not probably so much that it's granite granite's obviously it's an expensive bit of kit but it's i do think it's it's the heaviness of it that is what's dated

okay okay i've got a question here for polly from an outie this is from johan who is asking you what are your top five trees so my number one favorite tree would be a cornus cusa china girl that's a dogwood really great for urban gardens but also really great for country gardens and has a beautiful creamy white flower in sort of may time around chelsea and great autumn color as well so Cornus Cusa China Girl as a multi-stem. Second tree and this is one that people saw quite a lot at the Autumn Chelsea that one of Autumn Chelsea Flower Show would be Heptacodium mechanoides or the seven sun flower tree. I absolutely love it I mean some people would say it was actually a shrub but dark green leaves really beautiful fragrant white flowers in late summer or autumn. So it's

quite an interesting tree for a time of year where not a lot of trees are doing anything else. Why it's good, it's one to really watch out for, is that it's quite tough. So it's going to be able to withstand those cold winters and those hot summers. So in terms of a resilient tree, it's a really good one. Number three would be Prunus cerula so that's a it's a cherry and the reason i love that is because it has a stunning copper bark that's sort of peely and whilst it's not it has some blossom and it has some ocean color but i wouldn't say it was the most exciting for that but it's the bark in winter with the sun shining through really special tree that you're buying more for its structural interest as a as its trunk which i think is spectacular parotia

persica persian ironwood the best tree for autumn color so it's going to be an absolute autumn blaze and then oh i think my final one would probably be it used to be amelanchia and i do love an amelanchia and i know i've gone on about them on this a lot but i am aware that as the climate changes uh amelanchia isn't struggles a little bit with um the extreme heat which we're getting in the summer so i'm going to go with something which is a tree and a shrub and a hedge i'm going to go with hawthorn i'm going to go with cretaceous monogyna monogyna monogyna monogyna cretaceous monogyna our classic hawthorn i think it's got beautiful beautiful blossom in spring great pollinators beautiful red berries and just a stunning native plant of this country i think it's native so the

question that johanna's asked is obviously your five favorite trees i'm intrigued because i'm intrigued only because uh when i think trees i think big trees like oaks plains plains, cedars, that kind of... Yeah, I don't specify those. No, probably because I'm thinking more from your perspective as a landscape designer, you're suggesting trees

that can almost be bought in and put into someone's garden. You, aren't you? Exactly. What I've listed there is more ornamental trees. Oh, that's the word, ornamental. So, you know,

if we're talking, if I'm designing parkland, then obviously we're looking at much bigger format trees. But I'm really focused on things which you could put into nearly every garden. I mean, parotia gets monstrously large if you let it. I'm actually going to pick your brains at some point about blossom trees, apple trees, because I want one in the garden when we come to redesign the garden. I mean, if you want some really cracking blossom, you should go for a crab apple.

Oh, right. Proper little crab apple. Yes, because the blossom on that is second to none. Okay. Okay, we've got another question from an Innie. Do you have any top principles for a good bathroom layout? And that's from Katie. Oh, gosh. I do have some. I have some rules, actually. Let's hear them. Okay, so when planning a bathroom, first things first, it's very easy to just think. So you've got your square and you've always got to consider where the door is. Now, where your door opens, one of my number one rules is that I don't want to open the door and look at a toilet if I can help it. So if you're starting from scratch, what you want to be able to do is open your door and the first thing you're seeing is your vanity unit or a nice looking thing you don't want to see the

garden shed first thing you see no so always try and conceal the toilet and actually if the room is big enough almost try and conceal the toilet where you might even be able to put a little stud wall between where the loo is and say the shower or the bath if it's big enough if it is small i would say just consider that. It's very easy to just... I see it a lot where people almost just go a little bit off the shelf. They'll just stick something in a very obvious place. Where it was before, I suppose.

Yeah, and actually be considerate about that. And actually, especially with the toilet as well. Another tip I would give is maximise your vanity. You want to go as big as you can with the toilet as well. Another tip I would give is maximise your vanity. You want to go as big as you can with the vanity. You walk into the bathroom sometimes and the vanity's tiny, the little vanity is the stand that your basin sits on. And it tends to be really small, and I always think you could have gone so much bigger there.

The space around the toilet, when you're sitting on the loo, you want to have about maximum 30 centimetres on either side around you. You want to be able to flap like a chicken. Yeah, you want to flap like a chicken. You know, you've got to be able to reach a loo roll. But otherwise, that's sort of ample space. So then really maximise the size of your vanity. Go bigger if you can, because it's actually going to make your room feel bigger.

When you're in a room and you've got a little tiny vanity, a basin, and then you've got your loo, and then you've got your shower, which is, again, sometimes too small, try and maximise that space. Also think about using, like, if it's a shower room, say, the shower tray, you can tile the shower tray. So get a formed shower tray that you can actually tile on top of. That will make the room feel so much bigger. And you've also then got more space to play with. Shower trays can come in all different shapes and sizes.

So again, the floor space in the bathroom, I would make smaller to maximise the size of your shower and your vanity room, you know, your vanity. So I'd say that's probably number one. Also, lighting for me is so important in the bathroom. More lights on the vanity or either side of the vanity. Don't put a down light over your head. Otherwise, you're going to shine light down your nose, down your face.

You're going to look awful. You want lighting coming at you from the front. I put a very simple, in a smallish bathroom, I will literally have a flush mount, one single central pendant light, and then I'll have wall lights on either side. What's a flush mount? It's where it doesn't hang down. So if you think about a pendant, it's something that hangs down from the ceiling.

Flush on the ceiling. Flush is literally attached to the ceiling, so it's actually like that. Great. Got a little question from an outie. Shatika is our outie, and she's asking, I'm getting a dog. What plants are safe? We're asked this a lot. Same with toddlers.

We always caveat this on projects as lots of plants in the garden aren't safe for dogs cats and babies my answer depends on the family some of the most common plants out there are hugely poisonous to animals they just don't eat them but i mean if you've got a completely insane puppy that will eat quite literally everything then i completely understand why you want to avoid certain plants. I mean, I could list hundreds of plants which are safe, but it's more about that which is unsafe. Do you know that Christmas trees are really, really dangerous for cats and dogs? Are they?

But the assumption is that your cat and dog isn't sat there eating your Christmas tree. But they don't. That's the thing. It's a little bit like with children. I think we've become a little bit overprotective of these things things the answer we give to clients is it depends on your appetite for risk so some of the most common things which are really poisonous to dogs daffodils daffodils that's right so daffodil bulbs daffodils is the same with strangely the same with cats but my cats daffodil most bulbs um christmas trees as i've said but also you which i would argue is one of the most common plants you would find in a garden taxis or you we've never found an animal that's eating it but it doesn't mean that they wouldn't but you might not want to include it if not

okay um wisteria wow very toxic for dogs as well and obviously very very common and also something which is really dangerous to everyone children dogs cats would be fox gloves there's beautiful spikes of plants that you'd see whites and purples that you see in daffled shade they're stunning and i remember when my kids were very very young and i didn't trust them not to eat them i was terrified about having them in my garden but i taught them very early on don't eat these yeah and they know you don't eat anything in the garden but equally you can't tell that to a dog so some things to avoid if you're utterly terrified and you just want to eliminate I suggest you go on to the dogs trust website they're really helpful at listing things which are toxic to dogs but frankly many things are okay I've got another question for Jojo from an innie. This is from Katie. Will feature tiles in a shower stand the test of time?

I mean, you know my thoughts on anything that's a feature. I don't think... Well, what's a feature tile? You do tile showers all the time. No, I think she means like a wall in a shower. A bit like a feature, like your headboard wall being painted dark blue, like we always talk about that. By the way, it looks fabulous.

Does it? Yeah, it looks really good the feature wall it's in the children's bedroom it's a child but like I say anything goes in a child's bedroom but

look you've got to think with things like standing the test of time at the end of the day not we don't know what's going to stand the test of time

things that we would never imagine that would ever come back and obviously this brown trend I've been talking about brown is a color that we never in a million years would imagine would be coming back and now brown is the color of the last two years probably in interiors and fashion and therefore i think there are certain things which are obviously like you know a glass hanging chair or i don't know but cushions that say live love laugh like these things are

yes they're going to date things like these things are yes they're going to date things like tiles I think if you're going with something that's quite neutral it depends on the on the feature tile it depends on the color that you're going to use on the wall but they're not inexpensive things to change so if you love it go with it but I think if you're questioning it then the likelihood is you shouldn't go with it i mean i don't like feature walls really of any kind unless when i say a feature i don't know say you had paneled walls and then you had a sort of very light stone and then you had a sort of dark wooden panel that's not so much as a feature because it's a continuation of a theme that is natural one from an outie lucy is asking is it sacrilege to pull up knee-high yellow roses that

have been planted by a predecessor i love this question oh i've had a bit to drink now i'm just gonna sing my answer this is probably the number one question i get when i go to site for consultations is is it okay if i take out a plant i don't like that i've inherited i mean the answer is nearly always yes it's the same as in the house if you came in and were like i really dislike those tiles you're not going to leave them just because they because they're there in her case then if you're pulling it out what i think feels sacrilegious is what the bloody hell do you do well exactly and this is the difference somewhere you can take them well hopefully there's not a charity shop for plants

but I think as with anything if something is very very mature it's very hard to make sure that that's going to live but something like a rose

if you dug that up in winter you can offer it out on Facebook or Gumtree all sorts of things there are lots of people out there

that are only too happy to have plants I didn't know that yeah really well you know any of your community whatsapp groups or whatever I've got a load of roses. Yellow roses are really divisive. I actually love one of my favorite roses is David Austin Roald Dahl which is a yellow but it's kind

of like this beautiful butter yellow and you put that with pinks and purples utterly spectacular but as far as I'm concerned you need to be really unromantic with plants in your garden. If they're not working for you, or they're gross, and they're ugly, and they don't work, then get rid. Gift them away. I was going to say, could you take it out, cut it right because roses, you can hack right back to nothing, can't you? Could you then put it in a pot and let it do its thing in the pot?

Well, she clearly doesn't like it anyway. So my recommendation is, if things are in the wrong place, move them. Do it in the winter. If you dislike them, gift them. So many people will take your plants. So I'm not saying shove it on a compost heap. I'm never going to suggest that as your first option. But equally, I don't believe in living with plants in a garden that you don't love.

It's your garden. It's your plot of land. It's your house. It's your garden. Plant the plants you love, as long as they're happy with the soil type. Thanks for that question, it's your garden. Plant the plants you love, as long as they're happy with the soil type. Thanks for that question, Lucy. Thank you. We're left with one final little piece of fun, which is our ins and outs.

So what's in? What is in? Well, apparently sex toys, darling. I think some of these sex toys are certainly going to be in. Well, they're certainly going to be going in, aren't they? And then they're coming out again. So that's the ins and outs. That's the in and the out.

And the out. What's in? I think in is taking some time off to be with your loved ones. Yes, Polly. Give yourself that time off. I think so many of you have messaged about, since our last couple of episodes, about boundaries and work. And I say what's in is self-care. Oh, I love that.

Time with your loved ones or time not with your loved ones if that's your form of self-care. Not everyone loves their family. Also, lean on, if you've got little ones, lean on your family to actually help give you some time off even if it just means going and having a lie down just getting some rest catching up on some zzz what's out is our bellies just let it go don't worry about it couldn't kill us just don't give a shit about the extra calories you're going to get rid of them in january i know people are like, oh God, I feel so... Don't worry about it. It'll be dealt with in January. Enjoy your Christmases. Right, off we go. Well, that was a wild ride where you can hear us getting drunker and drunker by the minute. So I hope you enjoyed that. And apologies again for the audio. We will be reunited

with our wonderful producer next week. As a special Christmas present to you, we are going to be answering even more of your questions next week, so please do send them in. And if you felt like giving us a little Christmas present, a little treat in our stocking, don't forget to like, subscribe, and write us a review. I know I ask it every week, but if you wanted to hop on and do that now, that would make our day. And in the meantime, Merry Christmas.