The Ins & Outs - Colonics, facials, moving plants and backsplashes

Episode Date: October 28, 2025

In this episode we're talking small changes to make a big difference, from ceiling roses to picking trees. Jojo updates her on her latest adventure, Polly's got a new tv show to binge, and we're discussing the latest release from Skims....This episode is brought to you by The Soho Lighting Company - designers of luxury lighting, switches and sockets. Engineered in-house with cutting-edge electrical innovation, each piece blends heritage craftsmanship with advanced functionality, offering timeless design that performs beautifully.  For the full collection, visit www.soholighting.com  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Where have you been? Where have you been? This is so funny because we literally haven't caught up. Now we're jumping on a podcast to share how we've been. I'm really well. I've been on a retreat, a writing retreat, but sort of a wellness retreat too just to give my brain and body at the reset that it really, really needed and I feel different.

I feel good. Do you? I feel good, yeah, I have to say. Tell me more. Start at the beginning, because this sounded amazing. Journey. Yeah, there's a couple of really funny things

I have to tell you. Okay. But I obviously have had a really a shit show of a year. Yes, yes, you have. And I just feel, I haven't really felt myself. And I know I'm still,

and lots of people keep reminding me, you are in the grieving process, it's going to take a while, it's not going to happen overnight. So I'm fully aware of that. I'm not expecting that to go away. But it's more the fact that I'm, with the sort of recent diagnosis and everything else, I just have taken on so much. And I don't say, I actually remember us having a podcast poll, probably two years ago, where my New Year's resolution was to say no more.

And then I realized I have an inability. That doesn't seem to like, I don't know that word in my vocabulary. So I just keep saying yes to everything and then I've loaded myself up too much. so carrying far too many plates. And I felt like I was sort of almost at breaking point. And so a very good friend of mine, Lucy Hurst, insisted I've booked this trip that she'd been on. And I booked a basically six-night, five-day-away retreat in Spain

to this sort of wellness clinic. And I, of course, me, I couldn't just go and do nothing. I used the opportunity to go and really get stuck into writing my book. And I know, funny enough, on last week's podcast we were talking about, flow, I got into a flow state, which is really exciting and actually quite proud moment because I thought with this new diagnosis that it was impossible because I just can't ever seem to focus on one thing. I actually was like properly got into the zone where for two and a half hours in, I was just writing. So that felt really good. And I basically went under like a full

diagnostic. I have to say first of all, so grateful for my mob for letting this happen because I literally switched off. I deleted Instagram, which was God, just the best thing ever. Oh, isn't it just the best thing ever? Deleted the gram and just put my out of office on, which is the first time I've ever put my out of office on, I think since I've had my business. I don't use the out of office button function. So that was just really good to be able to just go and very grateful. I've got such a great team and husband that, you know, took the reins. And I fully immersed myself in this experience. But it was i basically went under like a physical and mental diagnostic test when i got there so they put you on all these it felt a little bit nine perfect strangers at lots of people

walk you have to squat and cough no that's prison didn't do that no sadly not no um did do do do something else but um and then they put you on you know they sort of examine you and make sure you know you're physically fit and then tell you what you know is going on and of course mind was that my mental load is at its brink and then my stress was just like at the top end of the scale like it was like bursting out so anyway so they sort of then work on this five days of resetting yourself and resetting your body and yeah so that was really really good um and the funny news that i have to you is that i have my first colonic irrigation did you i had a hydrocholonic have you ever had a colonic poll i have not had

had the pleasure. Have you ever been tempted? No. So I'm going to put a little, well, I'm going to just put something, which I think, I went, I went very much into it, terrified that I was going to fart or worse, shart. And then I would be mortified because I'd be lying there in this situation. And I think that's what I thought would happen. I thought it was just like a sort of succession of farting and potentially like very embarrassing. It's nothing like that. It's very controlled and it's very, they literally pop a tube. You lie on your side, they vacillane up this tube, pop it up your bum, which is not very

comfortable unless that's cool kind of thing. And then you roll onto your back and then she literally puts this warm water, purified water goes into your colon and all works its way around. And then they start massaging your stomach. So she's massaging your tummy to get it into all the nooks and crannies. yeah and then and then she's like do you want to see what's coming out and I was like well I know I'm here now and it's the oh should I go into this is this too much yes I mean guys just skip forward 30 seconds if you don't want to hear it go on it's it's it's more that it's

just not as bad as you think it's really not as bad as you think it's only like afters when they after about 20 minutes it it's I'm not going to lie it's it feels really fucking weird to have something can I ask a question go on you know You know sometimes if you have a bath? Yes. For some reason, like 20 minutes later, some more of that bath water might make an escape. Not from your bum hole, though.

Not from your bum hole. But, you know, from the sluice gates, so to speak. Yeah. Is it the same after a colonet? Well, no, this is the positive news for you all. Because that would be the concern, would be like anal dribble. Yeah, like literally just like walking along, you're like, oh, there it is. No, I'll tell you what happens.

So they take the, she took the tube out for about 20 minutes of moving the water around. Yeah. And then she's like, okay, you can go to the loo now. And the loo is also set out with a little stool that you put your feet on. And it was nice. Raise slowly, raise your legs. And then I was worried. I was like, if I get up off the bed, is it going to just fall out?

Like, it's just coming out because I've got a lot of water in there now. Yes. And she's like, no, no, it doesn't work like that. You're, you know, you're fine. I went to the loo and, well, let me tell you, it was enlightening. It was, it was good. Is it like you've had a really bad curry, but just water? The world, the world falls out.

The world and the woes fall out of your bum. Did you feel like a new woman? Yeah, on the next day, I had a real spring in my step. I had a real spring in my steppole. I felt lighter. I think that's funny. So if you pull your eyes down, you know, it's a bit yellow and, you know, that was white the next day. I had white whites of my eyes.

And she said that really the best time to do it is at the end of every autumn and the beginning of spring. So every six months, I have a little clear out. I have a little clear out, yeah. A literal clear out. And I have to say I would do it again. So that's that. So that was just, yes, it was absolutely awesome. I mean, I've come back just feeling really reset.

I feel like I can really sort of tackle things. Just gave me perspective, honestly. Like, I've never done this solo trip since I've had the kids. I've obviously been on work trips, but that's very different. That's not the same. To actually be on a trip. And another thing I was really, because what they like you to do is to, when you're eating your food, you don't read a book or you're not on your phone,

you sit and actually think about the mouthful of food that you're putting in and you chew it a certain number of time. and you're just much more considerate of your, you know, of your time and the things that you're eating and putting in your mouth. And it was just, it was just really amazing. If anyone wants to know. Are there any celebs there? There weren't so many celebs, no.

That's a shame. No celebs spotting for you, I know. Because that would have been quite fun, wouldn't it? If you'd have become besties with like Oprah. Oh, yeah. No, sadly not. I met a couple of really lovely ladies and went hiking and exercising and bookwriting. and it was just so good, Paul.

Honestly, so good. And now I'm just ready for it, ready for it. Well, look at you. I'm ready to say no, I hope, as well. I am. I'm doing it already. Honestly, I'm doing it already. I'm saying no.

It's the stifling people pleaser in me that makes no very difficult. I just saying no, I don't want anyone to be upset with me. So it's just sort of like, no problem. Well, now I feel like I'm back. Give it a week. We'll probably be right back where I was, before. Well, quiet. And the only other small bit of news from my side is that I went for an eye

test. Went spec savers. And? Turns out, I need glasses. Shocker. Shock. Says the one that's been like squinting at things for quite sometime. So I've sort of been doing a squinting me, it's almost felt like my eyes are sort of like I've got a bit of a, like a, now it sounds really fucking stupid as I say it, but I'd almost feel like there was a little film in front of my eyes. Like, I was constantly kind of trying to clear it. And I was like, oh, it's not clearing. And of course, I was like, maybe after trying Bluroy glasses thinking it was clearly my, it's definitely my screen. But now it turns out I need glasses. When they put the lens down, I like, this one. And I was like, oh my God, that looks amazing. And she was like, yeah,

yeah, you need glasses. So catch me up on your news, my love. Oh my gosh, what have I got for you? Well, on a much smaller, smaller scale, I had a face peel. Oh, okay. Was it one of the really aggressive ones? The face laser. And actually turns out there's not a lot to laser on my face because the type of melasma I have is hormonal, not sun damage, which I knew would be the case.

So instead, I've got to go for like monthly peals. And I've got to tell you, it's not cute because you put it on and it's, well, she does it, she puts it on, it's fine. But for the next five days, you've basically just. got like skin hanging off your face like freddie nightmare on elm street yes and you're not meant to like oh my god one of the hardest things i've ever done in my life is resist to peeling it the skin off your face because you're not meant to pick it but like it's hanging off you know like on american psycho is that is that the american psycho is what i'm thinking when patrick bainman like

peels the thing off his face it's that's what i wanted to do and going to go and see clients and stuff being like I look like an absolute state but did it then look really good up like a week later will you tell me well you do look glowing no it is it does take like a full on it hasn't done it completely I think you have to do like three or four of them and apparently that's the only way you'll ever deal with it if it's hormone or melasma it's never going away it's more just trying to fade it before next summer and then the cycle starts again I've massively noted like apparently they say they know those people they they they they they they're they they Yes, they're really clever.

Yes, the plural. They, those, God, those they are really clever. They say that the biggest shifts in your, in your physical and appearance is when you're 43 and when you're 63. Those are the two biggest, no, sorry, 43 and 73, apologize, 43 and 73 where there's suddenly like a, yeah, big shift in the way you look. That's the big, is it? I've really noticed it, like in my, in my skin. You know, when you sort of look down, you're like, oh, God, yeah, you're not young anymore. Do you worry, I'm watching riot women at the moment on the BBC, which is great, and it's about a bunch of, well, the way it's described is a bunch of menopause, menopause are women that start a band, but I just, I don't love that as a description, but okay.

And a lot of them talk about being invisible, and it's something my mum sort of said, actually, some time ago as well, that there's a time when, women go from being noticeable to invisible. And I've got to say, I am struggling with the fact that's coming around the corner. How about you? Although I don't think you will ever be invisible. No way. I'm not talking to the wrong woman here. No, I just feel on this tipping point.

I don't know of any other ladies out there in their 40s. And part of me just doesn't give a shit and I'm actually really relishing it in it because it's so nice to just feel like you can sort of, I don't know, hand over to the younger generation I'm like it's not about me anymore it's about my girls it's about the kids it's about but I do look at youngsters now and I'm like oh my god they're only

I could be their mothers like all these 25 year olds but they're young and they're youthful and their faces stand up without any help and you know everything just looks perky and fresh and shiny and I'm just like that's okay we just need a bit more help thank God for really good

base creams and guashas and lifting tools oh my god i was thinking of you i got um i got a cold rolly thing from um the skinny confidential it's so cold i can't do it hold it on my face okay so guys i don't know if i share i think i shared it but i've got this amazing ice roller that you put in the fridge it's a mint ice roller oh do you put in the fridge i put one in the freezer in the freezer sorry in the freezer yeah mine's skinny confidential as well but my god it's um it's so cold i told brad about it so he he saw me rolling with it one day and i was like put it on his face he's like oh my god that's

amazing. And I was like in the morning when you feel all puffed up, it's just so nice to like depuff your face. And it's tightening and you're supposed to do it every day. Anywho, he, he, um, has he been using it. I was, he's been using it. But he whipped it out. And of course, because it's met, the rollers are metal girls. So the metal rollers get when they get, they almost get a layer of frost on them from the freezer. Yeah. And you're supposed to wipe that bit off. But what he did, he went straight under the eye with it. And it got stuck. And he literally got frostburn under his eye. Yeah, so careful with that, girls.

Oh, wow. Good tip. Yeah. But good tip. There you go. I was also been a really good tip when I was away, which is guashering is amazing. Cold guashering is even better. So if you get a metal guasher and put it in the freezer or the fridge, apparently that is way more lifting.

But apparently it's... Is that the thing which is sort of like a sort of overly shaped marble thing and you just scrape it on your face? Got it. I do. I do don't round on that one, so it is good. I have to say, I mean, I don't know. This is what's sort of like, God, I'm like, also, this is why, right, girls, this is why I'm on a mission to, and I, I have to, I'm really fighting at the moment because I'm at my foreheads, I've got lines coming to say, how's your, how's your Botox detox going? I mean, I'm not doing it. I'm just not doing it, but I really, really want to just see, I just want to embrace getting old.

There's one, one woman I started following, I think the follower told me to go and check her out. she's an older she's probably in her 50s and she's fully grown old gracefully and she looks fucking amazing just in a cool she's got wrinkles but in a really lovely way and she's got smile lines and i was just like why don't we aspire to look like that anymore what is it with this like stretched face pumped up lips why is that so important to us i mean i know we want it i know we want to age patriarchy babes separately two things i wanted to cover with you nothing to do with beauty first of all you've inspired me with all you've inspired me with all your be a tennis and stuff. And I was getting annoyed at the fact I didn't have anything to do at home.

So I've signed up for a pottery class, which I'm super excited about. Well done. Thank you very much. And secondly, I watched the Victoria Beckham documentary. Have you seen it? No, I haven't seen it. Is it good? Thoughts. Good. To be honest, I was only watching it because I wanted to see her garden because she's got a banging garden in the Cotswolds. And frankly, that's all I was interested in was that and I got about two minutes of that at the very end which tickled my pickle a small amount but mostly it was about actually her preparing for her fashion show which I could not give two hoots about but I just wanted to see the like behind the scene stuff I wanted to see like what does she eat probably nothing and what does she there was a clip of her exercising

which is pretty intense actually see that though come on they're not she's not going to show the real that's not going to be real is it let's be honest that's what I was hoping for I was hoping for like day in the life, this is what life is like. And actually it was very, very focused on preparing for a fashion show in Paris, which was interesting. But I just, I wanted to see behind the curtain more. You want of a nitty gritty. Still watch it, that was fascinating.

But yeah, no, thoroughly enjoyed. Good. And that's my news for you. No more news? I've got, to know what other news I have got. The garage is flunging. Oh, we're at a pace. Where are we up to now?

Give us a garage update. pace so all the windows have come out they've punched the little round window in the top bed bathroom the partition walls have gone in the dormer windows look like the dormer windows well they haven't got windows in yet but the dormers are out they look fantastic it suddenly stuck it's looking like a little house it's so exciting it's honestly giving me such a buzz and it's given us a real boost of like yes can't wait to do the rest of the house now that's good it's nice to have something to look forward to isn't it off to the races it's really yeah it's really fun although i literally have the most unbelievable decision paralysis on everything. I can't even make a decision on a

radiator. I just look at the radiator. I'm like, I don't know if I should do a short one or at all. Shall I put a window seat there? It's like, yeah, I've become... I think it's difficult when it's your own. My worst client. It is. You're like that. Well, you've got a team. Make them aside. I've got a team. My team has been amazing. Lucy and Lizzie have been saving my bacon over on the little... We're calling it the hideaway. Oh, love that. But also, we had suggestions of the nooky. Oh, the nooky. Which I thought was cute. And also the rumpus room. The rumpus room is apparently an Australian expression for like a kid's playroom.

But I think it sounds a bit sexy. It sounds sexy. The nooky. I quite like the nooky. But then if the kids are playing in the nooky, maybe we should just keep it clean. No, the hideaway is good. The hideaway is cute. The hideaway is good.

The hideaway it is. I wish I had garden updates for you, but I don't. We've just been planting loads of other people's gardens. That's been fun. So we've been actually, it's the time of year when we're outdoors again. That's nice. But that's it. But that's it.

So I think we should probably get into. questions. Let's dive on in. So the theme this week is small changes, big difference. And I'm going to kick off with one for you, Jojo, which is sealing roses in a mid-century semi-detached. Does that add character or is it NAF? I'm going to go NAF. It's not necessarily NAF, but sometimes sealing roses look like they can be sort of retrofitted. I think sealing roses work in spaces where architecturally and for the age of the house, there would have been a ceiling rose. So even if we're doing a renovation of a 1950s house, it's got no characterful features, and then we're putting them back in, a ceiling rose has to work with the other features in

the house. A ceiling rose isn't of the mid-century period. That's not something that would have been used. Sealing roses would have been more a sort of Victorian Georgian era. So it would look a little bit out of place to suddenly put one on the ceiling. I actually tend to not use them. I rarely I'll use them in a room that has incredibly high ceilings where we've got lovely ornate features and we've got beautiful coving

you know, cornucing around the ceiling and lovely big skirting boards and it feels like it needs something extra in the middle of the ceiling especially when it's a really, really big room because a light that has a small, the ceiling rows that a light comes with might be quite small and it can therefore look a bit lost just floating out the ceiling. Got it. But sometimes I quite like that look. You have to think that sometimes a ceiling rose can fight with the light fitting itself. So it very much depends what it is that you're putting. But sometimes I love the contrast of having a sort of big mid-century chandelier hanging from a really beautiful, ornate

ceiling rows but I wouldn't go putting one in and if you've got an average size ceiling the room is sort of quite an average size and it doesn't wouldn't match with the existing skirting boards or panelling or whatever you've got going on so I'd then say no got it good answer okay one for you my love mm-hmm okay poll if planting several trees how to choose one that complements each other do you go with the same or mix in a really small garden it's rare we would go for example say you could fit three trees in I wouldn't choose three different trees only because I think that can feel a bit confused we would normally choose maybe two of the same and one different or three of the same but maybe

they have slightly different shapes to them only because otherwise it can feel a bit spotty as with everything else in ones in the garden in bigger spaces I think you know if you're doing a sort of meadow or whatever I think you can have a lot more fun with it and you can really mix up your natives and things like that, but in smaller spaces, to make it feel intentional, we'll often do, for example, three prunis serulus, and they're sort of in three different corners, for example. I mean, if you want a sort of more mismatching look, then go for it and choose three different ones and then be careful to choose ones where maybe some have really lovely spring blossoms, some are sort of more famed for their autumn colour and mix it up.

But I just, if you want it to look deliberate, and most of my answers to these questions are always going to be if you want it to look deliberate and designed rather than completely naturalistic and random, then I would maybe have two of the same and one different or three of the same. And then if you're going more than that, would you always tend to stick to uneven numbers? Or would you do three bigger ones and then two smaller ones? I quite like trees to have friends. So like I said, if you're doing, if you're lucky enough that you've got acres of land and we're talking Parkland, then obviously you can do all sorts of different things. But in urban and suburban spaces,

I try and avoid there being just one tree of its own kind unless it's going to be like this big star statement focal point tree. And then, so for example, in my studio garden, we've got two Amalankia and one heptocodium. And so the Amalankia kind of speak to each other and make it feel intentional. And the heptocodian is the star of the show in front of the studio. And in my main garden,

I've got a run of three, Pyrochontoclear. and then I've got one prunus cerula as a focal point. So it's doing a sort of trying to make sure if you have more, have a majority of them having at least one or two friends, and then you can have a focal point standing on its own. Rather than lots of ones. What if it was like apple, you know, blossom trees? Yeah.

Then you could do blossom tree, but different types of blossom trees. And then it would be okay. Yeah, I mean, you can mix it up if you want. Yeah, for example, so by my terrace, I've got two crab apples. They're actually the same because I didn't want to mix it up. But for example, if you could fit, I don't know, five crab apples in your garden, you wanted a mini orchard. They certainly don't all need to be Everest, for example.

You could mix it up with all different types of cultivars. And that could be great for the pollinators too. So there's no hard and fast rules. It's just everything needs to feel like it belongs with its friends. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Got it.

Okay. Back indoors. Back indoors. Good one. This is from the wonderfully named Suspicious. Lizard. Oh, what a great name. And they are asking,

Zalij versus Delft tiles for a kitchen back splash behind the stove. She's got, she or he, I don't know, has tongue and groove panelling everywhere else. Well, I mean, it's like, Delph is going through a little bit of a surgence. Have you noticed? I do love a Delft tile.

I love a Delft tile and it's quite cottagy and it's definitely on trend at the moment. But it's a trend I like. and it's a trend that is, it comes back round because it's a traditional tile. It's a classic trend, right? It's classic. It's not a modern thing that's going to die, you know, that's going to die a death. It will stand the test of time if done well and done in a more sort of timeless way

of the sort of surrounding features are timeless with it. So at the moment, I would say go for the Delph because I think it's going to add a little bit of character and I love a delftile. I was humming and a ring for a long time about doing it in my in my shower room to all up and over the entire shower room in the hideaway. That would have been cool. It will be but it's finding the small ones but the delft tiles tend to that you find online tend to be bigger. They're not the little ones. So Zellig tiles are as a liege tiles are a bit smaller. They're like 10 by 10 but the Delftiles are readily available. will be about 15 by 15, so they're bigger.

So if you can find the smaller ones, I'd go with the 10 by 10 Delph as a splashback. Don't go too big. Question. I've got two questions for you, actually. Number one, can you get Delft tiles that aren't with blue on them? Do they come in other colours? Not readily, again, not readily available,

but you can. I think there's one with a dark sort of red. Yeah, I feel like I've seen like a brownie one before. Yeah, they're sort of much more. They're hand-painted and they're going to be a lot more expensive. Okay. Second question. Would your auntie?

Would your answer change depending on how big? So you know, like, for example, my splashback spans the entire width of the kitchen units versus maybe some people just have a splashback, which is solely above your cooker. Is your answer the same? Like, would you avoid doing a massive span of Delft and keep it small or vice versa? If you've got panelling that it's running into, the Delft tiles, you only need to bring up probably about maybe five high. And then once you get to your cooker you can increase the delph behind you can take the delph up behind so it's a rate it goes up up to the cooker hood and then back down again and then your panelling will come down to meet the top of it and then you can put a little shell for some rails but would you avoid having big spans of it or does it

not matter uh i think you either go all in or don't do that sort of half height where you've got you need to bring it lower than your panelling above so i'd definitely say you want it to be about a third and then the top two thirds, it would be panelling just to help balance the eye because it is a lot of detail. Otherwise, lean into it and go all over. It really just cover the entire wall, which can look really impactful. It's obviously much more of a statement, but that's the other option. But I think they're mixing the two in a sort of classic sense is really lovely. Nice balance. Okay, my love, quick one for you. This is from Anna J. Cox. Just moved house, lush garden, but lots of right plants in wrong places help.

Okay. Well, perfect time for you to move them. So if they really are in the wrong place, if they're massive and mature, it's unlikely you're going to be able to move them. You can try, but I would expect them not to survive. But anything, any perennials, any grasses, any of that smaller stuff that dies back, now's a great time because you can probably actually still identify what it is right about now, whereas in about a month's time, it would probably just be brown mush. So dig it up and move it. Go for. it, now's the time. Yeah, that was an easy one. That was a great one. Quick and easy, quick and dirty. Quick and dirty. Okay, last one for you, madam, is what are your thoughts on bookcases

in a living room or a hallway or a study? And what about all of the kids' books? So, such a good question, because I vary what bookcase, your books in, can actually be displayed and the books that you keep can vary depending on the room that you're in. That might seem quite obvious. But how we display them is also quite different. So books are a brilliant way to create visual interest and bring in colour and warmth and character. So in quite a sort of bland flat room, if you suddenly bring a load of books in, you're going to suddenly add a load of colour and loads of character. Do you want your room to feel like that or do you want it to feel calm? So I tend to I tend to try and colour block. Either you can get really organised and colour block your books

into categories of red, green, blue, height order, to create some structure. So if you have got loads of coloured books, to create structure, you sort of split them up into colour groups and bring them forward and onto the front of the bookcase. They're all in line. And then trying to create some sort of pattern with the heights. I tend to do that in more like studies in areas where you've got libraries studies, because I think it's nice to bring colour and lots of books into a study. When we then enter into like the living room space, I actually prefer to keep it rather calm.

And this is somewhere more where you're going to reach for that book and actually read it. So potentially a coffee table book, something a bit bigger, could be about house or plants or something that is a visual statement that's a bit chunkier.

So coffee table books, I tend to prefer that bigger look in living rooms. And then also because I just think it creates balance. You've got large pieces of furniture in a living room like the sofas and we're trying to create balance in a space so you don't want tiny little tiny books and trinkets everywhere you want to you know lovely big books is going to help create that draw the eye around the room and then hallways again

if you want the hallway to feel cluttered the best way to do that is to chuck a load of colorful books all over your bookcases if you want to be make it a passageway that you walk through without sort of stopping yourself you know visually stopping because you've got a load of you know distraction, then you want to go with calm books. But sometimes people love that. They love that look. It's just, you know, it depends what you're after. So you could follow suit and do the same that you've done in the study, to create a bit of order, or you could just completely scatter on them, or just go with something much calmer in the hallway. Just so it's somewhere that you're walking through. Do you know what I would quite like? I would quite like the house I have now,

but then I'd also like another house, which is a bit like the house. from about time, which is kind of this sort of ramshackle maximalist, nothing matches. I want like books everywhere on all surfaces and bookcases and loads of pattern. And it's just sort of like joyful chaos as well. I'd like a maximalist house and a minimalist house, please, if that wouldn't be too much. I totally feel you on that. I love and that's why I think there are rooms, but that's why I think it's important to create that feel in certain rooms.

So your snug off your kitchen would actually be a really great place to bring all your books in on the bookcases and really lean into that maximilism because I think it's somewhere you could do that. You could get really colourful. You could bring in chintzes and fun and, yeah, I think you could lean into that in there a little bit. And then go calm in your kitchen and the rooms. If not, if someone, I'd just like another house, that would be great. Oh, just lovely. Maybe like, I don't know, on the coast. Just a ramshuckled big old Georgian pile, just 8,000 square foot.

It's something like, you know, just something. small. But just on the coast, you know, just the walks. That about Timehouse, that's one of my favorite films of all time, by the way. If you haven't seen About Time with Bill Nye. Bill Nyeye is one of my favorite actors of all time. He's just magic. But that film is so special. And every time I watch it, I think, God, God has got to walk along and look up and soak it in and be grateful for everything we've got. Right, Paul. We've done a big old session today, haven't we? One more for you. And I'm going to go with this one.

from Gemma, because I think I know the answer. Foe flowers in or out. Gemma, I'm glad you've asked this because it's been niggling at me. I think I know. Something made me a bit sad, actually. I saw someone I follow who I really admire, posted these hideous plastic box balls outside their house. And I was like, why? Like, why? Yeah. They're just so awful and everyone was being so complimentary about them because they were like solo maintenance and I just thought that is a very sad state of affairs that people are excited about plastic plants outside that really bums me out um inside I am conflicted

because there are some I mean they've faux flowers that come a long way haven't they and they are so convincing and I've seen some beautiful ones and you're like oh that they look lovely however well they're silk they're made of silk they're still plastic aren't no they're silk yeah okay and a lot of them aren't so I think they look amazing, but I cannot get on board with them because number one, faux flowers therefore don't follow the seasons, therefore you've got like slightly weird setup where you've got things that aren't in season in your house

and that can sometimes just like a bit nuts, can't it? If you've got like roses at December, I don't know. So I think there are amazing ones out there, but they're not for me. I'd much prefer a dried flower. So Jojo, you're amazing at this. You put beautiful dried bits into vases, don't you? I would rather you go dried as well, where possible. I do get where you, I don't know, like if you're fortunate enough to have a holiday home or something

and you're not going to get in there and put fresh flowers in there all the time. And there are some brilliant faux flowers around. But I think dried flowers is more my preference. I mean, I love dried stems. So at the moment, I've got some amazing dried beech stems, you know, these beautiful big red leaves, which are absolutely stunning. And they've really brightened my mood whenever I see them.

They're gorgeous and these old oak leaf stems. So there's a lot out there that you can get that doesn't need to be plastic. That are sort of preserved, aren't they? It's a funny one because I never ever want us to come across as snobby. That's never the intention. It's more just, I guess, our entire ethos is nature. Yeah.

So therefore I'm never going to be like, yay, plastic nature. In my little downstairs, Lou, a lovely team at Project Giving Back, when my dad passed away, they gave me a prayer plant. And bearing my apology, well now, I tend to kill every plant in my house. That's, that's doing really well. So if you don't have green fingers, a prayer plant is really low maintenance and they're lovely and it's like hanging out my downstairs loom. It doesn't need a lot of light. And then I've also got a trailing ivy, but it's like the really pretty eye with a white round it. And he's sort of trailing. He's in there as well. And he loves it in there. He loves the dark. I really like the dried flowers we did for the

photo shoot for the house those sort of dried wax flowers or even just some old seed heads i think are gorge because you can't get much more low maintenance than that can you they just sit there you can't have to change the water yeah all right then so there we go well if we're talking ins and out then so is that you're out then is that an in no no it's neither that was just me answering a question my inn i'm so excited to talk to you about this is a new tv show oh i love it it's called chad powers Okay. Have you heard of it? No. Tell me.

Have you heard of Glenn Powell? Yes. Right, well, Glenn. He's quite hot. Good looking dude. God, he's hot. His body is. Okay, so it's the new show.

What was the film he was in? It's absolutely brilliant. He's in that with a girl with the boobs. And anyone but you? Oh, yeah. That is such a good film. Absolutely loved that. He's so sexy.

A good looking dude, isn't it? Yeah. This is a good rom-com. Anyway, it's his new show. It's brilliant. If you liked Ted Lasso, then you will love Chad Powers because it's essentially, it's just a really sweet comedy. It's based around American football, which don't let that put you off because you know my feelings on sports and I'm still watching it. It's a lovely show, but the only

downside is it's only coming out every week, which is painful because, you know, when you love something and you're like, I have to wait a week. So I might just wait and then don't watch it. No, you could do that. What's in for you? What's in? What's in a clean rectum? Yeah. I'm going to go. go, I'm going to go that. I'm going to say what's in for me is, is colonic irrigation. Hydro-colonic girls and boys. I highly recommend it. Just put your, swallow your pride. No, it's not your pride. What is it? It's your, it's your, it's your, it's your, what is the fear? It's the fear of. Swallow your fear. I don't want to talk about swallowing while we're talking about colonics, mate.

They're very different. One goes, okay. So, in. you, colonics, love that. Colonyx. My out, which I've been actually itching to talk to you about, but I've been holding off for this. Have you seen the new Skims Merkins? Fucking, is that a joke?

Please, someone tell me, is this a wild joke? That is insanity. It's a joke, right? It's a joke. I don't think so. No, come on. Someone's having, no, no, no. It's not actually Skims.

What's curious is they've sold out. And my question is, is it just a really clever marketing ploy. I thought it was a joke. Skims actually sell Merkins. Yes. Oh my God. For all the women that thought that it would never be trendy to have a bush, a bush. And then when it got laser.

For a we no-go, it's actually, that's actually trying to be inclusive to people that can't have one, which is always something. But why would you want one? I mean, they do come up with some. Why would you suddenly want one? I can't imagine. I don't want to ever see a pub again in my life. By the way, I had a facial. on my um at the clinic the other day i had a facial which is so lovely i love a facial and she stopped

and she was like do you do you laser like this and i was like um i've just started but she was she didn't really understand me she was Spanish and she was like shall i get these here and i was like where she chin hair shamed she chin hair shamed yeah and she pulled some tweezers out mid facial and start plucking the hairs on my chin on my chinny chin chin so what's out for me is My chin hairs Literally plucked out Yeah What's out for me is my chin hairs

And my eyeballs Because I need glasses I need to desperately go and get some new glasses Have we talked about the fact That I hate facials? No Do you like massages? I love a massage

But a facial is literally Someone putting cold cream on your face And smearing it off Over and over again It's so much more than that Do you not like, no You get, oh a lot I just love them

No I've never really had it I've literally only had it where it's basically they get like a wooden stick and put cold creams on your face and then wipe them off and do it again and I'm like, this is nuts. You need a proper facial girl. It's brilliant.

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