The Ins & Outs - Colours, British Legends & Boob Love

Episode Date: May 7, 2024

Polly's had her colours done while Jojo's been rubbing shoulders with a British legend! Someone's made a rookie mistake with their bulbs and we get into what's the right and wrong wood flooring.Plus, Polly & Jojo discuss their love for boobs.This week's episode sponsored by MOMA, makers of the most scrummy, creamy oat drinks. MOMA's mission is to craft the tastiest food and drinks from the finest quality wholegrain British oats. Delivered straight to your door. Type in insandouts25 at the checkout for 25% off. Click the link below to their website now.https://www.momafoods.co.uk/InstagramPodcast - @the_insandouts_Jojo - @houseninedesignPolly - @pollyanna_wilkinsonProducer Andy - @andy_rowe_WebsitesJojo - https://www.housenine.co.uk/Polly - https://www.pollyannawilkinson.com/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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What wood flooring is the right wood flooring? And mine and Py's love for boobs hello my darling how are you i'm okay how are you i've not caught up with you at all this week i know nothing of your life do you ever do that thing where someone says what have you been up to and you can't even remember what you did the day before every single day I'm like I don't I don't know I mean that's obviously a bit of perimenopause kicking in I'm sure but my memory fog is a real issue for me when it comes to I remember the things that I need to remember on a day-to-day you know like get on a podcast this morning but I honestly I can't remember what I did which doesn't really make for a great chat to catch up to sit don't remember I need to make notes for what my life's

been what's been going on for the last week uh last week I met with I went to and actually they were a podcast sponsor of ours if you remember our ancient and brave collagen suppliers and I went to this brilliant launch of theirs um with some really inspiring people it was hosted the the panel was hosted by Dame Kelly Holmes who's obviously just a total inspiration and idol and amazing amazing all-around woman and I was very fortunate that I got to meet her um you know when you meet someone and you're like oh my god you feel quite like wowed by somebody like what she's been what she's been through what she's put her her body and her mind through is just amazing and she's just yeah she's a little force

I think she's brilliant I am going to say though it's really funny I do find when you go to these events and until lately I don't I just haven't been to events I've sort of just buried in you know small children life and work and I've started trying to be more social and going to more of these events um and it's it's really good for you but it's funny how you walk into this room full of people that you don't know you don't know anyone there and you sit down you know you get your coffee and you sit down everyone's looking around at each other and you're like oh my god I don't know anybody and the meet and greet but at the end you're like oh this is just oh this I don't know anybody. And the meet and greet at the end, you're like, oh, this is just, oh, this is going to be awful because I'm not going to know anyone and everyone's going to know everyone.

It's like being at school on the first day. And then you're standing there at the end, you're like, oh, God, you know, and you stand next to someone who looks like this, who don't really know anyone. You start talking to them. And sure enough, one by one, you start meeting people and you realize that nobody knows anybody in the room. And then you instantly feel like oh my god why do we worry so much and this is all just you know part of human life but you can imagine all these little brains and he's going on a million miles per hour thinking oh god I'm you know a bit nervous and I don't know anyone and we're all thinking the same we all think the same it's just such a sweet like

funny funny thing if you could hear people's brains you know talking it would just be you know our little insecurities um but it was lovely and I think the more the more I do them the more sort of you know I think confident I become in in meeting people I think you're such a gregarious character though pal like I'm so surprised to say that because I go to these things and exactly as you say I am absolutely terrified I just I'm terrible at meeting new people I love it but I'm I'm terrified yeah but look how confident you are as a person you're so confident you could put camera on you instantly switch on you know what you're talking about you're confident in your work and your abilities but for some reason in social situations we as most people just go a bit like

and then I was even because I was having this experience in my own brain in my own mind um sort of psychological sort of chat with myself I was then obviously met Kelly and I was looking at her and I was like she's feeling the same she feels like she didn't know anyone there she no because she doesn't and she's there sitting up on a stage talking to a room full of people about something and and she was probably feeling the same and it's the more you do these things I think the more reassured you become that we're all the same um so anyway that was a interesting experience any house updates have we progressed that any further oh my gosh got the house updates I'm now about to go in for planning spoken to Billy my wonderful architect and he is getting the plan sorted and we're going into planning.

So exciting. And actually, just generally, because it's starting to now warm up, just to see the garden coming to life is really fun now. Because it's all just starting to look more green and lush. Yeah. The sun is finally doing its ting, doing its sweet ting. Right, Paul, what have you been up to? Oh, what have I been up to? Work's been really fun. We're on major design mode at the moment we've got some really fun london projects

i love my london projects so busy designing those at the moment which is gorgeous and we've just very very exciting news huge news for the studio we've we were designing a science lab in cambridge and we've been designing the exterior of it in terms of the planting and our brief was sort of make it as plant heavy plant rich sustainable as possible because you know a lot of commercial properties have very sort of like mere landscaping and actually our client really cares about the landscape and and it's got planning and it got really complimentary reviews in terms of how much plant life we're bringing in to this commercial space so we're very excited about that

i'm very excited about that so amazing yes awesome it's very exciting for work brilliant and then home oh my goodness my friend we have got i'm stirring a big moat around my house where the foundations are being poured this morning i can hear some noises is that what's going on sorry there's a little banging in the background because i live with builders a little bit of banging yeah that's a good builders nice builders they're amazing i think they're good although my builders have warned me that there's sort of three stages to the build which are oh my gosh i'm so excited when will this be finished and please bugger off i love this that they actually tell you that he told me right at the beginning and so obviously we're currently we're in oh my gosh I'm so excited

you're very quickly going to be like can you bugger off I'm really chilled about it I'm fascinated by the process as well like I'm really geeking out I mean that's true you can geek out yeah you can totally geek out and also I think because you're in the industry you'll be more forgiving because I think as a client you don't, you'll be more forgiving. Because I think as a client, you don't know. You're like, what is that fucking great hole in my wall? And of course, I'd be like, well, I know that's a hole there because they're doing this and this. Whereas sometimes, and this is why I always talk about don't try and live in the house whilst your contractors are there if you can help it. I appreciate some people can't for many reasons.

But obviously, when builders pack up and leave for the day, and of course intrigue gets a bit over you and you obviously go for a little mooch about what they've done in the day. And you see things and you're like, oh my God, what's that? Or you start questioning things. No, I love it. I'm really enjoying it. And then in the garden, I have now planted all of the garden that I can plant.

Good. Which is amazing. The whole team, we did it actually on one of our studio days. We all got out there, which was such a joy just to get away from the computer. And we had some lunch and then we just planted the garden. So I can't wait to share that because like you say, just watching it all grow now. What a joy. Amazing.

The most exciting thing I did this week my friend is I went and had my colors done at the house of color yes are you telling me about this before we actually both had it done yeah I'm gonna tell you and then we'll go and do yours okay tell me tell me the amazing Isabel at the house of color it's like it's it's a long session it's like three hours and first she sort of talks you through the color theory of it and sort of how they figure it out. And it's mostly to do with your skin tone. So it's not really about your hair colour. And your eyes? watch and I had this little white um cap on because if you have any kind of dye in your hair then it's going to kind of throw it all off so I had this sort of very handmaid's tale cap on so that you could only see your face and she just puts swatches of fabric under your face and you

kind of watch and some of them just made me look like I was dying and other ones really sort of brighten you up and she asked me beforehand what season I thought I was and I thought I was a winter which is all sort of black grey very deep red anyway turns out I'm an autumn you're an autumn and my best colors really weirdly are my brand colors are they really yeah that's so interesting I know that I it's really funny because I thought I would be autumn. I think I'm going to be autumn, but now you've told me you're autumn, I can't be. Our colouring is quite different. We're really different.

That's so interesting. Is it also, is there like a light autumn and a dark autumn? Like, is there different tones of autumn? I'm going to get the language wrong. I am a leafy autumn because there's different tones. Because actually within autumn, there's also kind of peacock tones like a peacock feather you know there's teal and yeah and purple those ones are not for me so there's sort of a spectrum within it are you like olive kind of olive greens yeah dark olive uh terracotta a very sort of um earthy greens earthy browns um and and the colors that don't suit me are a bit

devastating most blues which I was a bit like oh man interesting blue I I can see it's it I they start turn around and tell me that blue is my color I'm gonna be absolutely like shocked I'll be shook I just she said you do naturally gravitate a lot to colors you like and interestingly and this made me think of you a lot you also tend to decorate your house in the colors that that you see that's what because our brand colors are the same so olive greens that sort of terracotta terracottas neutral earthy tones earthy tones yeah well maybe we'll be here we are here we are sitting here in like gray and beige no no beige is one of my colors can't you tell it's it but she does your makeup as well what really yeah when she was talking through it were you like oh my god i can i can see it i wasn't necessarily that happy about

some of it because i love on occasion to wear a red lip and i like a really blue red like that very taylor swift um blue red lipstick and she was like yeah that doesn't actually suit you you're much better in an orangey red and I was like oh I know I absolutely not and she and or a coral I would say that you're more of a corally red I know you're a corally red don't you I would say that no she put a coral lipstick on me and I was like absolutely not she was like you need to just try it for two weeks I bet you you'll come round so there was a few things a few colors which I was like I'm never gonna wear this color she was like well it's fine but you know you know it suits you if you do or it might be that you just have it for a swimwear or a party dress like a you know dress

for a wedding or something so you're not I'm not necessarily going to start wearing teal every day but hey I know it I know it's in my color wheel but apparently you can tell from when you're like a baby really yeah yeah how fascinating I can't wait can't wait to do it I also want to ask you about bras oh let's talk bras oh my god don't actually let's talk bras mine are disgusting shameful I'm not I just I think I'm still holding on to bras that I wore when I was pregnant. Nice. Sexy. I'm on the hunt, on the holy grail.

All I want is like a t-shirt bra that you can wear under white t-shirts. So it just needs to be like nude, smooth. I don't want like any lace or anything that's going to poke through the t-shirt. I just want nice and smooth. So funny you say this at the event the other day i met a girl who was um a reiki energy healer she was fab girl called naomi and she had the most cracking boobs to the point where i was like did you tell her boobs are fantastic look at your how brilliant you you've got mega mega boobs those norks are

fantastic well done and she's like it's my bra like it's this bra and she said it was a victoria's secret and it was a new it was a smooth t-shirt bra and her boobs looked awesome so i'll look into that i've never figured out the sizing and maybe skims bit of skims skims is a good shout well innies outies if you have any good t-shirt bra recommendations, hit us up. We'll share them because I think we're all on the search for that Holy Grail, aren't we? Yes.

Yeah. We are two weeks away, by the way, from Chelsea Flower Show. Two weeks and counting from Chelsea Flower Show. I know. It's like, it's madness. And how's the stand coming along? You all set? Really?

Yeah, really good. It's going to be brilliant. I'm really, really looking forward to it. I I'm actually just I think because it's our third year and now we know how it goes it feels like it's gonna be smoother I say that my brilliant designer Rosie's been sort of leading this and she's she's amazing we've been having real fun with with the design of it um we're working with a florist called Palais who do these have you heard of them they do these insane floral displays that are very kind of modern and like you wouldn't think to put these plants together so I can't wait to see your reaction when you see it but therefore considering what the plants are

going to be like we have to be we have to tie really hold hands with the with the floral display because it's kind of going everywhere it's going around this organic bench that we're having made. And therefore, we can't put certain colours that we use. We have to make sure we work with what these flowers are going to be. I think the flower's always there to emphasise interiors. It's that thing that can completely transform an interior. You know, like you put a vase of ranunculus in a pot in the middle of your living room

and suddenly the whole room looks different. I always think flowers have that power. I can't wait to see it well we'll also be recording our podcast there so if you are visiting the show on Wednesday you can come and see us because we'll be at the Project Giving Back stand filming the podcast live I've got that day though for me it's absolutely murderous well actually my friend when you are setting up the stand I will be there too because I'm working with Project Giving Back I'm going to be their roving reporter can I say what a treat it is I have to say it's such a treat to be at Chelsea Flower Show before the gates open because you actually get to walk around and get up close and see people doing the final bits in the garden and you get to actually go and look at it close up obviously when you know

the gates are open you've got like when it's a busy day at chelsea is absolute chaos isn't it it's just it's like being at royal wimbledon on centre court everyone's just crowded around like rows and rows and rows of people it's busy but that's what i'll be doing i'll be going and talking to the designers finding out about the designs and showing little bits that people should look out for when they come to the show amazing that's gonna be so much fun team project giving back team project yeah baby let's hit some questions we've got a question from fred hey jojo and polly stupid question for jojo how do you deal with showers fans don't tend to extract fast enough and damp always creeps in. Do you find it best to box in and tile ceiling as well? Or do you have another idea?

Love the podcast and all the helpful tips online. I love the name Fred. It's a great name, isn't it? It's just a solid name. It is. Do you know what? It's a toughie this because I have this issue in my en-suite shower room where damp creeps in, as you say,

and you start to get these little mold spores on the ceiling so if you have a especially if you have a fairly low ceiling even if you have an extractor over a shower you have to ventilate your room so even after you get out the shower if you have a little window crack it open for a bit or even just leave the door open just to allow the steam to get out but these little fans don't tend to be enough to really pull the moisture out of the air. And then over time, you will get little mould spores that build up on your paintwork. And even plaster will start to peel away.

So your paint will start to peel. So therefore, as you've asked, can you tile and box in a shower? You can. I actually, this is why I do a lot of paneling in bathrooms because actually if you use a moisture resistant mdf paneling like boards yeah it's much it's much it doesn't peel away like plaster does so if it's painted you don't get that same effect that it does on on plaster right on a plastered wall so that's one option for you is to actually panel the ceiling

and paint it um please ensure another thing is that you actually use obviously bathroom paint use something with a good sheen level in it so that you can actually wipe moisture away um but i think really it's just about ventilation and i think it's it's and i don't personally like the feeling of a sort of tiled completely tiled shower room or bathroom i think it feels clinical and i think i've said that on the podcast before it feels very clinical and quite cold and therefore i'll try and avoid it by you know as as much as i can um and but but you also have to be practical so if it's a really small shower room it might be that you need to tile the sort of shower enclosure and above, especially if you don't see it, then I'd say that's the best way to kind of, you know, for longevity of not having constant upkeep of having to sand down walls and repaint and yeah, and that sort of thing. But it is it is a problem. And it's, yeah, so you've got a couple of options there but it is a real it's a real thing damn okay yeah hey it's mitch from side note podcast and i'm here to tell you

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Have perennials growing back to take their place? But they must make the bulbs harder to remove, replace in autumn. We'd love your advice on this. Thank you so much. And please keep making more podcasts. They're absolutely brilliant. Charlotte. Thanks, Charlotte.

Ooh, Charlotte. I mean, my first question is, I wouldn't normally have tulip beds unless, I don't know the answer to this because it's not in the question, but the only place I would have a tulip bed is in a cutting garden where I was going to solely like harvest them to bring indoors otherwise I would never have a border in the garden which was just tulips because you'd have the exact dilemma you've asked this Charlotte I've got this so I feel your pain right now I have the most manky looking sort of tulip thing and it just looks like a mess it's no you need to think of spring bulbs are the icing on the cake of a border not the cake does that make sense so it's schooled

yeah as in so okay if if you're asking if if number one if you've got a cut flower bed and it's got tulips in then by all means then put annuals in afterwards and then you've got that succession of cut flowers but I'm going to assume you're actually talking about borders which you've just gone for it with the tulips and not put anything else in which is with respect to love a rookie mistake and instead you need to be planning that border with perennials and with structure and then you add the tulips into it so if you go to any garden like Wisley's a great example at the moment they've got herbaceous borders with lots of beautiful structure and then they've got loads and loads and loads and loads of tulips coming through them

and so you almost need to start again by getting your perennials and your I don't know whatever domes or evergreens whatever you want to use hydrangeas and then put your tulips in so tulips very rarely come back quite as well the next year anyway so don't be too romantic about what's going on in there now just go ahead and plan your border and add more tulips in november december so for charlotte and i but yes um would you suggest now that we have this sort of manky looking bed full of this just sort of dying yellow leaves would you suggest pull them up with their leaves and put them in a pot and save them no so any tulips that in a border i let die back and you hope that they're going to

come back and some some do come back pretty well um but certainly you should be deadheading them so you should be which means take off the stem of the one with the flower leave the leaves alone because the leaves i've said this before kind of like the solar panel yeah you think a tulip the bulb is the battery the leaves are the solar panel and it needs they need to absorb all the sunlight when they turn yellow then you can like whack off the leaves but i wouldn't pull tulips up in a border to store them to replant them that's they're in that's madness okay yeah I mean I would never do that don't do that I know you've clearly done that haven't you I'd never do that okay let's go back indoors after that blunder by miss jojo bar this is from christy hardy hello i'm having an oak flooring conundrum do i go for oiled or lacquered 20 mil or 10 mil thick knots or no

knots would you be able to provide pros and cons as i know jojo said how important investing in the right flooring it's oh, gosh. Where do I start? Right. Where do you start? Let's start with the old and lacquered question first. So I don't need to explain to everyone what old and lacquered means. Yes, you do. Well, no, I don't know.

I know what oiled is. What's lacquer? Is it like a varnish? Lacquer is essentially like a varnish. There you go. It's like a varnish. So lacquered is going to be much more hard wearing. Oiled is going to need a lot more maintenance.

So there's a difference in look. Oiled is a bit like having a honed marble. And lacquered is a bit like having a polished marble. So one is going to look a little bit more shiny, but it's going to be much more hard wearing. The other is going to be much softer, looks a bit more, you know, a bit more natural. I, of course, being the naturalist that I am, love oiled i am love oils so i love the look of oils oils but therefore so if if you have an oiled floor and you scratch it with those sexy slalettos or something and you leave a scratch you're going to instantly need to fill that bad boy

because if you have an oiled floor and you're going to have to sort of you know treat it otherwise what it'll do is immediately pick up dirt and then you're gonna have a dark scratch through your floor that you'll never be able to get rid of okay so oil is going to take maintenance so every i don't know year or so just you're gonna have to just give it a little oil oil keep on top of the oil oil but the look of it i just think is just so beautiful it's worth doing um it is also very dependent on traffic areas so potentially in a kitchen you might want something that's lacquered or a bit more hard wearing um areas that aren't so high traffic does lacquer change the the aesthetic does it change the color yes it does it's a bit like

imagine imagine what it would do if you had um if you poured water on a bit of wood it bring it darkens it and it makes it looks like you can really see the grain more. Yeah. So it does that. Honestly, when I talk about marble being the same, it's if you polish marble, you bring out, you see more of the, it's more refined. So presumably it's quite sensible to have a go at doing both so that you're happy with the colour before you go spend a fortune on. Yeah, totally.

Exactly. One's just more hard wearing. That's the long and short of it. Okay. 20 or 10 mil thick. or 10 10 mil thick obviously the thicker you go the more sanding you can do to get it back so for instance if you've got so so wood floors made up of layers and the top layer is how is the millimeters of actual timber that you've got yes now if you say drop something on the floor and it created a dent or you scratched and it was dirty or it's worn away and you need to sand the entire floor back with a very with a thin board.

You can probably only do that maybe two or three times. The more you spend, the thicker it gets. The more sands you get. The more sands you get. So it's going to be better quality. It's going to feel more solid as well. So but it is going to be more expensive, of course. So that's that.

So that's a budget thing. That's a budget thing that's a budget thing and then your knots um knots or no knots is character grade or non-character grade character grade means it's got all its lovely gnarly knots i personally love a knot in a floor i love character grade flooring rarely don't do it unless you like that more contemporary feel so i feel like when it hasn't got knots. That's a slightly crisper look. It's crisper. It's a bit more sort of art gallery-esque. Gotcha. But then otherwise I would keep the knots in if it was me.

Just a bit more sort of farmhouse style. Love that. So there you go. Great question. That was a little, that was a wood floor masterclass there. That was a little wood floor whiz. Okay.

Right. Hopping outside, my darling. Sunnies are on on got one here from kerry pickering i love the name pickering my best mate's surname is pickering um i have a question for the goddess of design you get this a lot pole i know you've previously talked oh wait sorry she's talking to me sorry no she's not really i know you've previously talked about gravel about gravel in the garden but how the frig do you choose the right one what

size what color how deep love the podcast please never stop oh okay love this question so gravel for driveways we'll go with about a um 20 mil sorry that was very i had to think about that for gravel driveways we go for 20 mil which is a chunkier gravel because you don't want a really small one like a p gravel which is going to get in your tire treads you also don't really want it that it's getting into your foot treads and then you're trailing it into the house um and so for anything where there's going to be big cars we'll go for that bigger format and then i try and stay away from really really pale sort of white gravels because i'm sure you'll know they turn green and like how to clean gravel. It's not like you can jet wash that easily.

Absolute chaos. So I tend to go for things which have a sort of multi tone in them. They're much more forgiving in terms of just living in the UK. But, you know, a little bit of mud and leaves and whatnot. For pedestrian. and leaves and whatnot um for pedestrian so for pedestrian pathways we'll go for something smaller about like 10 to 14 mil you can go for the bigger driveway one it's just it's a bit chunky so we go for 10 to 14 mil that does run the risk of you getting into foot treads but i just prefer that narrower format what i'd say with the tip with gravel is don't don't do it straight up to

any sort of back door or anything make sure you've've got some hard standing, like a paving, before you go into the house, which is going to act a bit like a doormat. It's going to gather that gravel so that you don't take it into the house. And then a little tip for you. We very often, both in driveways but also pathways, we will lay that gravel in a stabilisation grid, which looks like honeycomb, like a big honeycomb grid. And by doing that that you're filling the gravel into these little pockets and it means they don't migrate so much because i think one mistake people make is doing a really deep amount of gravel and then you feel like you're walking on a beach because it sort of moves whereas those grids keep it all in place and then you top dress

just with a little bit more so you can't see the grid um so those are your tips that's a good idea we used something uh i think we was at cotswold yeah see that can go quite green can go quite really it depends in a sunny spot it's brilliant we didn't do what you just said and we've actually just dumped a whole load down on the driveway just because it was we're just covering basically polishing a turd and it does move around it's amazing how much over time it slides a big chunk of it yeah it migrates unbelievably so um and also is it not the most annoying thing in the world worse than treading on lego than when you get a bit of gravel stuck in your if you're wearing a pair of biker boots or something and it sticks

in the treads of your shoes oh my god it's so annoying and some people have that imagine imagine that on your driveway that would do your head it? Well, imagine what that's going to do to your wood floors inside, my friend. And your wood floors. Oh, my goodness me. I know. Don't even get me started. Yeah, so just be careful. If you've got a north-facing space, shady space,

don't go for a really pale gravel because it's going to go green, much like any paving wood. So just make sure that you go for sort of a browner mix if it's shady sunnier you can have a bit more fun i do you know what there's at my garden center and i find every garden center has like these packs of gravel and it's a really nice way to just go and look at what gravel types there are aren't there because you can get the little white one you can get and you can just see little bags of all the different types yeah but i mean there's loads more out there than what you can find at a garden center i mean actually if we're talking gravel i'm really excited because the gravel in

my gravel garden is going in this week it is the dreamiest gravel as well it's an english limestone gravel because all of the products i'm using in the garden are english um and it's from all green one of my favorite suppliers and it is a dreamy kind of grey beige is it the ultimate neutral is how i think it is a gray i'm so excited to use it it's one of my favorite gravels called the harleyford nice yes highly recommend beautiful i got another one for you from alex hi alex please can you advise on the best flooring to go for a small space we're transforming into a home gym slash relaxation type area. It's small but fits an indoor bike, mini trampoline and stepper. When they're all pushed to the side, there's enough room for two mats for Pilates and yoga. If we have a hard floor, it could scratch from moving the equipment around, but could carpet be unwise?

I love your podcast. Listen to it while I bake cakes. Which you then work off in your gym, I presume, Alex. You're both fineag keep up the positivity yes alex yay now listen so there's something that gives me the hebes and that's carpet in gyms or like when you go into somebody's study and they've got like a um you know they've got a cross trainer or something you know a bike on a carpeted floor it just makes me feel a bit icky is it because you know in a gym you sweat you get hot and a carpet is is an absorber and i just think it's yeah it's it please don't put carpets in a room in a room like that um if you are putting down a wood floor you can certainly

do that again think about your lacquered oiled maybe go with the lacquered um for one but then i would just be practical and put mats underneath your equipment sorry i know that might seem really boring but wood floor is going to make it feel more spacious it's going to it's going to feel right i wouldn't go with any sort of gym technical gym flooring if it's going to also be used as a nice relaxation room and you still want it to feel like a lovely room so go with a wood floor but just you're going to have to protect it and you can get these great sort of clear uh gym mats that you can pop down on your equipment could they then drag the stuff over because they're going to drag it to the side

exactly yeah so i would then say that's the way to drag it yeah is that you get the clear use specifically use mats yeah but um and then obviously just i mean it goes without saying but just the wood flooring just make make sure that it's glued down. It's one of the sort of, so it's not a floating floor. Make sure it's actually glued down, which means that it'll be... It's a floating floor. A floating floor just means that it's not actually glued to the subfloor. It's just like joined together like a jigsaw puzzle.

Yeah, exactly. So you want something that's really solid so that if you're jumping up and down doing burpees, it's going to be like squeaking underneath you so there you go i hope that helps love that okay my doll this is from georgia because i'm curious as well um i know we talk about this a lot but i have a collection of lovely large pots full of spring bulbs of multiple varieties and they look amazing outside our front door really happy with the color and vibrancy it's giving however i'm feeling very unprepared for when these eventually die any suggestions of what to replace the spring flowers with once they die so that the pots are thriving with flowers again for the summer and when should this be done i love this and the answer is

i love this sort of now ish depending on your bulbs so the thing with pots you've got two choices you can either use a pot for a permanent piece of structure like either side of your front door you can have a pot with a an evergreen dome in it and that gives real formality and that is put it in and leave it be feed it but you're not going to change that that's not a seasonal pot that's there for permanence right like a living sculpture or you've got what you've got which is your pots with your spring bulbs and here's where it sort of spider diagrams again into two options if you've got loads of little pots jojo full of little bulbs i would then put them out of sight for the summer only because you are going to water those tiny little pots with like one plant in per pot for

the summer and it looks bitty They're fabulous for little spring displays, but I take my smaller pots and I put them out of sight for the summer. You've just got to think about the amount of compost in those tiny pots and how quickly it's going to dry out. So small pots, you've said you have big pots. So with big pots where you really want these beautiful displays of spring bulbs,

first of all, start deadheading them now. So that's going to mean that your bulb isn't putting energy into putting seed, but it's going to mean that your bulb isn't putting energy into putting seed but it's going to go back into the bulb because it sounds like you've got a mix it's not just tulips it could be anything you can either let them die back on their own and a little hack for you with big pots sometimes what i'll do is actually plant them in a big plastic pot and then put it into the pot because as jojo said earlier dying leaves of bulbs pretty ugly so that way you can then pull the plastic pot out the liner pot so to speak

put it out of sight to die back in peace and then you can use your pot for perennials if you haven't done that or you want to sorry there's so many answers to this question gosh do you know i wish i'd done that now the thought now of like yeah brilliant the the plastic line is a good trick the line is a good quick succession if you don't want to keep the bulbs for next year because they're mostly tulips which aren't going to look as great you can just yank them out now you don't need to wait for something to die back that you're going to put on the compost heap if they're if you've got a really great mix of other things like alliums narcissus fritillaries whatever then't need to wait for something to die back that you're going to put on the compost heap. If you've got a really great mix of other things like alliums, narcissus, fritillaries, whatever, then you need to let them die back. And then you can put perennials in.

So my favorite thing to do for summer is not to put a load of annuals in from the garden center, which is the old classic, which a lot of people do, like bedding plants, as it would be described. I love to use pots for the summer with a mix of perennials the sort of thing that you put in your border so some of my favorite things to put in are things such as napeta or catmint which i talk about a lot but it's just such a long flower but you could do something like a napeta you could do salvia caradona or any of the salvias frankly pick your favorite and you could do a grass like a misiscanthus or a Calamagrostis or a Steeper. Again, dealer's choice, any perennial that you'd put in a border, you can put in the pots. And I personally think that looks so much more interesting than the slightly twee look

of sort of bedding plants that people think should be the option after bulbs. So I would put perennials in, leave them for the summer, and then you can plant them out in the garden when you need to repot for next year for your next spring bulb display so that was quite a long answer but there's a lot of options there i feel like this this weekend is going to be a busy weekend in the garden for everyone yes i think the main the guiding principle is you need to let if you want to keep your bulbs you need to let them die back so that you get a good show the next year that could be out of sight or in the pot super thanks paul that's quite enough questions for this week quite enough on that note what is in and what is out ah well in

i think we have to in has to be no mo may because we're in may now no mo may mow may put those can i ask a question please okay i have a paddock can that be congrats can that be my no mow may and can i mow the lawn because it does make the house look bloody scruffy of course i mean i think a lot of people have this problem and it doesn't necessarily mean that the entire garden has to be handed over to no mow may for the reason you're saying and something my my dad is always in my ear when we talk about no mow may because if you don't mow your lawn for a month it's an absolute bugger to mow it at the end because you know grass is really long basically you're going to know you need to stream it also doesn't it depend on the condition of your lawn in the first place because mine is just like a weed garden with like loads and loads and loads and loads of little daisies i mean it's ah but that's the whole point

mate so the point of no mome is to allow we're trying to improve biodiversity we're trying to feed the pollinators by allowing the sort of things that do naturalize in a lawn to actually flower so that is the entire point is those daisies is exactly everything that you find is what you want to do so but I think a nice compromise for people that maybe don't want the entire thing to be wild is just choose a bit that you don't know and that doesn't matter how big your garden is so if you yes you have a paddock I think I think that's probably adequate or create a little wildflower meadow exactly so you could just designate a bit to know momay and know the rest if it's not fair to just make everyone you

know expect everyone to to do it there's there's practicalities the rest if it's not fair to just make everyone you know expect everyone to to do it there's there's practicalities in place but it's even a little bit helps because we're trying to help out our pollinators so no mome what about for you pal what's in for you do you know what's in for me this week tell me is and it's not even just the week this week it's in in general life it's antiquing yes yes antiquing i i want to hear from you guys is antiquing. Yes. Yes. Antiquing. I want to hear from you guys because antiquing is very important to me. You'll see antiques in every single one of our designs.

I think it's what gives house soul. Soul and character. Agreed. Soul and character and therefore an individuality, you know, and that's what you're bringing in something that's old and sustainable. I love it. So I want to hear from you guys questions on antiquing it can be anything ask me anything I'd say I'd say I'm a little bit of a pro on antiquing because I've been doing it a very long time and it's a true hobby of mine so send in please any questions that you've got for the podcast

next week on antiquing I want to hear them and if you haven't been antiquing we can talk about where to start oh let's there's a really good market by me kempton market i love it oh i love kempton market it's great but even car boot even even honestly car boot sailing like just so much fun car boots so actually what's in is antiquing and what's out is lawnmowers. Yes. No mowers in and your lawnmower is out. Yes. Lawnmowers out. There you go.

It's an in and out. It's an in and out shake it all about. Do the hokey-cokey. And show me what you got. That's not how that goes. I'll show you what I got. Come on. Come on then alright

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