The Ins & Outs - Cut Flowers & Marble Lessons

Episode Date: July 9, 2024

This week Jojo delivers an intriguing lesson on marble in the home, while Polly talks cut flowers and foraging.Jojo & Polly discuss professional ghosting and why it's such a problem.Plus, we find out what happened to Polly's car during her son's birthday party!InstagramPodcast - @the_insandouts_Jojo - @houseninedesignPolly - @pollyanna_wilkinsonProducer Andy - @andy_rowe_WebsitesJojo - https://www.housenine.co.uk/Polly - https://www.pollyannawilkinson.com/Pod Rowe Productions - https://www.podrowe.net/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Hello Inns and Outts and welcome back to this episode of the Inns and Outs with myself Jojo Barr and the very lovely Pollyanna Wilkinson. On today's episode it's a jam-packed one. We're talking foraging, Polly's car keying, ghosting of the professional kind, give you a lesson in marble, dated balls and cut flowers and dirty heads on dining walls. So let's jump on in. Hello mate. Hello my love. How are you? Highs and lows this week. The low, let's always start with the low, is my car got keyed this week really aggressively. Oh my gosh. I feel worried about this happening. I have to say we've got the same car fall haven't we and it happened to someone in my building at work and Zach's saying thing for

literally from front to back how badly is it done front to back and they went back three times to do it's not just one scratch it's one really aggressive scratch and then they've gone not quite enough and they've done it again and then they've done it again. And then they've done it again. That's so nasty. I was so shocked. I just came back. I just parked it. Karma's a bitch. And I think that Karma will come back and bite that person on the ass.

Do you know what? It was at the end of my little boy's birthday party. So I was so happy from his party. Just went to the car park. And here was this king. And I was like, oh, no. I don't know what I've done to deserve this. No, that's not cool at all. It knocked me off my perch, only for a couple of hours.

But something about a really aggressive act for no reason. I was a bit like, oh, why? No, that's really horrible. That person must be having a bad day he didn't park too close to the wall settling to g didn't didn't it was relatively close to them insofar as the passenger might have had to walk in sideways but that's just car parks and big cars it wasn't it wasn't a poor park job i didn't deserve a keying so that was the low but these things happen and the high as pleasant as a party in a bowling

alley on the hottest day of the year can be it was lovely to see he was he was he was having a he had a wonderful time and therefore i had a wonderful time tell me about your parties tell me we are so the friday was ziggy's party and that was a pickup after school with about 12 of her best mates 12 six-year-olds we walked home and it was absolute carnage but i have to say what's really interesting is that you i was amazed at how polite they are so we it was no it was no parents it was a drop-off so there's quite a lot of kids to have in your house to control but it was a drop-off and actually they they're so polite kids they were really you know they they'd all come with their lolly sticks and say where's the bin

please whereas if it's my kids I just love the lolly stick on the floor so I actually think when kids are with your friend all my friends always say to you know you're so well behaved you know when she's around here I think kids just play up at home they play up with their parents I think it's just a thing because they can they're little bastards when they're at home and what did we do for rockies rockies was sunday with parents and they all came over we had a um we met the reptiles so we had these little um you know frogs and snakes and all sorts of wriggly creatures they all got to hold which is cute yeah so that was nice and then i have to tell you about this amazing thing i've done this week so that's the that's the like admin so a very good friend of

mine alice amazing writer she was having a retreat at limewood hotel have you been to limewood i've not been to limewood i've heard of limewood so i've always wanted to go there's in the new forest um and she was having this savor retreat where it's all about sort of slowing down and savoring the good things. And also because she's a writer, sort of creative writing masterclass as well. And within that, we did foraging.

This was foraging like no foraging I've done before because I've done foraging masterclasses before where I've gone out onto kind of Hampstead Heath or whatever, and we've gone looking for mushrooms. But this one was led by this incredible woman sammy and she not only was teaching us about the sort of flora and fauna on the land that you could gather but she always brought it back um to uh sort of to the divine feminine so everything she was saying she was like this so this plant is you know used if you're a green witch you'd use it for this and if you were a sort of um medicine woman in the old days then you would have used it for this so daisies are a form you know arnica

is made of daisies so if you've got a bruise rub daisisies on it. Don't rub it on broken skin, but rub it on that. It's the same thing. And talk about nettles and the seeds of nettles and all the different things that they can do for you. But coming back to sort of mythology and spirituality as well as medication, as well as eating, it was so up my street. I was just in heaven because it's a bit like your voodoo yeah but I think she was very much talking very much about mother earth and she had this lovely thing where she was saying your garden will give you what you need so you may find that something like a nettle springs up in your garden and maybe that's mother earth's

way of saying that you need cleansing like you need to detox and I just I don't know there's something about that within my work where I spend a lot of my life thinking about design and thinking about the practicalities of use of a garden and I think I'd forgotten a bit of that kind of like woo woo wee herbalist healing power of plants in a literal way that I just or ignited something so I just what it was so good you would have loved it like you would have loved it get me foraging any day love that kind of stuff how lovely so how do we find out more about this it's called the saver retreat I think tickets are on sale now, actually. It's for a retreat in November at the Limewood Hotel, which is in New Forest.

Oh, it was such a treat. And I had a massage. I had a day off in the middle of the week. It was glorious. So that's my news. What's your news? Well, do you know what? I'm going to ask you about something.

I'm curious to know your feelings on this. Okay. And it's come up a lot recently um and it's called I'm talking professional ghosting oh how often would you say and when I say ghosting I don't mean like you know ghosted by you know a boyfriend or a date or a friend I'm talking about when this happens in the professional world of you send out proposals you work with a client back and forth send out a proposal and then vanish they don't get back to you not even a response to say thanks so much for your time won't be won't be working with you but really appreciate your time jojo and all the efforts that you've put in to this date which is unpaid for thank you so much

but nothing ghosted yeah so i'm just going to throw this out there and say if you ever work with somebody especially in a service industry and they're back and forth on and putting time into spending time with the other phone perhaps coming to see you at your house or whatever it is the services and then they go as far as to even write your proposal at least give them the decent respect to respond with i'm really sorry we've decided to not move ahead with you um i'm really sorry i can't afford your fees um or uh i'll go and think about it. Thanks so much. But something, just to not reply, I think, is so incredibly rude.

I think it's not okay. I think people, like, honestly, I'm shocked how much it happens to us. How do you feel about that, Paul? I'm sat here in silence because I'm pondering it. Yeah, it happens really frequently to the point where I'll go have you received this like we've spoken about this in the past mate like as in as in I've been to see clients I've walked around their house they've been really keen I've gone back we've spoken back and forth they've chased me for the proposal I send the

proposal and then they vanish and then we chase them like three times nothing and sometimes we've had it where a year later this has just happened the client will come back and say hi there so we've decided to um move ahead now we've got some planning agreements through we'd like to move ahead now but I emailed you three times a year ago to find out where you were and they just don't, I'm sorry, I just don't think that's okay. It's manners, I suppose, isn't it? No, it's, I think it's nice to go, received, we'll come back to you. Or when you're chased the first time, be like, gosh, so sorry. I'm sure I've been guilty of opening something before and being like, I'll get to that.

But then I would never let it die. I would always eventually come back within a week or two and be like, oh gosh, I'm so sorry. I need to come back to you. Totally. Somebody chases you twice and says, can you get back to me? You're like, oh God, I feel really terribly guilty.

I'm like, I'm so sorry. But to not respond at all, I think is just really, really bad manners. And I think everybody should. And actually, I'm going to throw this into Instagram as well, because I'm having a break off Instagram at the moment, Paul. having a bit of a I'm I've stepped away just for I've actually logged out um because I just feel it's we give so much on Instagram I don't know whether people

appreciate this or see how much work is involved in growing an Instagram account and the stuff we do you know a lot of giving goes on instagram and when you get these messages permanently that are just like what's that where do we get that chair where's that from without even so much as a please or a thank you or like without even fluffing you up first i i mean i do mind a bit fluffing like by all means catch me on a good day i suspect my friend it is a an awkwardness of so my my imaginings of this is if you're not receiving a reply, it's probably because the number on the page is a bit'm sorry I can't afford you or I don't want to or I got a lower quote or whatever it might be so um I suspect silence is your no but I think where it gets really stressful where I find it very tricky is when we've been chasing like we want to start we want to start and you're holding the space

you're holding the slot for them yeah but also we get really excited about the project and the reason we're working to get a proposal over to them and there's an awful lot of work that goes and let me tell you guys there's a huge amount of work no one project yeah no one project let me tell you is the same it is it is like when someone says how much is this going to cost how long is a piece of string every single client is different every brief is different every house is different every project is different there's so many complexities to writing a proposal for you and therefore there's an awful lot of back and forth and this is why as well we ask for a budget when we're doing proposals we're not trying to find out what your budget is that we can try and push you off

and over it so we can make more money it doesn't work like that we're here but we ask for your budget because essentially we need to know how far we can make your budget go and we know what we can do with the budget in a house and i'm sure you're doing a garden pod on you so i guess it's you know it's it's all these yeah these yeah it's i guess it's just there's an awful lot of work and um that goes into our proposals and therefore all i'm going to say if anyone is listening out there that's never got back to me, I'm talking to you. I love it. I thought when you said professional ghosting, I thought you were going to mean halfway through a project or at the end. Because we'll often do beautiful design, clients delighted, but we will never hear from them again once it's delivered.

And we obviously, as garden designers, want to be involved forever. As in not from a fee-paying perspective but I want to see that garden grow my favorite clients are the one that will send me photos of the garden years on and they're like look at the hydrangea and I'm like oh my god it looks so good you know that's they're your babies and I guess it's slightly different with interiors because there's less of an evolution but obviously when we finish a garden it's only really just starting and it's got years before it it hits its stride and you're there being like the one that got away i've never seen that one it's always heartbreaking when clients sell their house and you're like oh i'll

never see that one mature um so yes stay in touch with your designers guys yeah don't leave us we're very needy no genuinely i mean i don't just mean this for interior design i'm not just talking about interior designers but if somebody if you're asking somebody to come and do a quote and i don't know someone who comes around to give you a quote to clean your roof i don't know and then they give you a quote get back to them and just say i'm really sorry it's more expensive than i was thinking and then i tell you what they might even turn around and say let me work with you to try and reduce that or Or what can I do to help you? But just common decency, common decency. Get back to people. So that's my rant for today.

I feel like we need to have a Jojo's Moan of the Week. Well, I know last week was flies, which I've realised that we like this. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. Hay fever. I need to tell you more about hay fever so sammy was saying because i was thinking of you and and myself with with the terrible hay fever and uh so nettles you know we talked about the stinging thing yes it is but also you can just drink the tea she said that the histamines in nettle tea are so high it's basically the best thing you can do um so and the trick is

which i thought was fascinating genuinely do you go and pick nettles from your garden yes you steep them in water simple as that but actually we're coming to sort of the end of nettle season because now they're flowering and the the little dangly bits which are the sort of flowers and seeds of a nettle and now next time you see a nettle you'll see what i mean they've just been over leaves there's like little catkins if you pick those seeds and dry them in your airing cupboard or a cupboard or whatever then you can eat them kind of like a chia seed chia seed i never know how to pronounce that and they're apparently a bit like having an espresso that's really energizing but that's going to help with the hay fever too so but when you're making

a tea from anything like nettles or chamomile or lemon balm things that you pick and put into hot water it's really important that you cover your teacup because all of the oils um will evaporate so in order to get the real benefits of doing anything like a nettle tea or a chamomile tea or anything that you're picking from the garden mint tea to keep the oils in you need to just like whack a saucer on top for like three minutes foraging what else is going on presented polly's scheme to her yesterday for her kitchen and uh it's pretty sexy um it's we've got a bit of pink in there a bit of pink i was surprised by the pink we've got some pink we've got some green i think we've actually got jojo's green in there actually um

of course and and then you've got your lovely limestone floors you need to get some nice timber going on in there with maybe your barstools it's just it's delicious it's very new paul you know you wanted color we're giving you colors yes yeah come to think of it your paint colors you know your new greens one of them is called next tuesday oh yes why is it as in see you next tuesday are you joking of course it is okay good i thought i was like okay i'm glad it was i was i wasn't sure and also do you realize because we come out on a Tuesday, technically. Next. There you go.

It is that it's for anyone that didn't pick it up. It's because I am extremely rude, as you know. I love a bit of smut. Oh, muck mouse. A little muck mouse. A little bit of smut. Oh, that makes me happy. I wondered if it was.

Okay, good. I think that's quite enough. We've got questions to answer, lady. We have. Come on, let's jump on in. Okay, I have a question from Caroline. I have an innie quandary. We've just moved into our new house and have a big bare wall behind a bonkette seat, which I think is going to get marked terribly by people's heads. And it's also so boring. I think it needs panelling, but I'm not sure where it should start or stop. Eric. Caroline, this is a funny one, isn't it?

So you've got a band-kept seat and you've got a wall behind it. Well, tell people, how dare they put their heads on your wall? Do you get greasy marks? Maybe you should just hand out some hats before your dinner parties. Some beanies.

That does sound fun. Yeah, that does sound fun. Just a hat party to stop it happening look panelling is a great idea behind a dining area and it connects and it adds architectural interest you will know me a little bit panelling um i would say in this instance because obviously head height you know but when you're sort of sitting down you're you're a decent height and if you want to put anything on the wall you know as well i think by the time you've got paddling you're creating quite a small wall above and i think i for me i feel like i'm envisaging it when we tend to do a banquette i like to have paddling that goes all the way up to the ceiling a bit like you behind you pal vertical yeah sort of vertical tongue and groove or vertical v-groove paddling that's going to go all the way out to the

ceiling um and like you say it's fantastic because you can wipe it because it's obviously you know Yeah. Sort of vertical tongue and groove or vertical V-groove panelling that's going to go all the way out to the ceiling. And like you say, it's fantastic because you can wipe it because it's obviously painted with eggshell. So you can give it a nice wipe, those sweaty mops that are sort of all over your panelling. So I'd say take it all the way out to the ceiling. Would you put a picture on it as well? Yes, that's a great thing about panelling and nothing. No, so that's my point point about having short panelling so you stopped your panelling at sort of dado height which is actually going to be about where your head is it's not going to be very comfortable um anything up to sort of three-quarter height means you can't hang any artwork so that's why i would encourage you

to take it all the way up to the ceiling so that you can put some artwork on the wall as well and also if you've got some nice v-groove panelling say that's going all the way up to your ceiling behind your banquette perfect place to put a couple of high picture lights and then have maybe a little bit of an art wall or something behind you and if there's art behind there that you know it's going to stop people sticking their head on the wall as well so yeah get a bit of character up behind that banquette lovely love that okay popping out of the garden i've got one here from mps are shrubs trimmed into a ball shape, dated? Should they be more organic in shape? Oh, great question.

Okay, yes. So shrubs. So I like like a taxis dome, like a U-ball or what I would have loved a box ball, but don't use box anymore, or pittosporum. So things at sort of low level, which are used as a tapiary, as a sort of means of adding formality and structure, of course, you can carve them into a dome or any shape of your pleasing really. shrub frankly it could be anything a deutzia or a y gila you name it that has been really aggressively pruned into like a sphere um exactly she said yes i think is the answer i think it looks really dated and i also think it's sort of aggressively anti-natural so i'm not saying topiary i love topiary so if you've got sort of a row of things that are balls

going down on sticks going down an avenue for example with some good heft and it's a really intentional design decision with a bay tree or something which naturally lends itself to being a topiarized form love it but if you've got something which actually is naturally quite loose in format like you know an olive tree is it's got this lovely sort of loose ethereal edge to it why would you sort of compress that into something which is so anti its form i think but what she means by dated is often you'll get this with conifers from the 70s and 80s there was just this thing where they would just hack conifers into really rigid shapes which they do not belong in um and they look wild they look nuts i think anything particularly when it sits on its own

it's one of the first things we do when we go to new gardens is if there's anything which has been really aggressively pruned into some something which it really shouldn't be we'll be like that needs to go or at the very least you need to let that go back to its natural form because it just looks contrived and dated so so your answer is yes i i believe when shrubs should be allowed to be their sort of natural form unless you're going into like a topiary vibe with it okay uh so this one is from sally she's saying real marble in a bathroom. Is that better than a modern material tile that mimics marble patterns? And how is the upkeep? I mean, you can't really compare a modern tile with a marble because marble is a natural. It's a natural stone.

It's going to give you something so organic that nobody else has. Obviously, a modern material tile is going to be like a porcelain and therefore it's going to lack that natural look. So it depends what it is you're after. If you're wondering what's going to be more hard-wearing, then of course a porcelain tile is completely hard-wearing. It's always a porcelain. And there's some great porcelain tiles out there now. do you use many porcelain tiles in bathrooms we so it's

interesting actually we tend to use marble in sort of master suites cloakrooms maybe the first you know primary guest and then as as you go through to kids bedrooms kids bedrooms will always use you know cost what you've got to think is actually yeah so limestone um it's things like sandstone limestone they're like your softest stones and then you go down to marble sort of comes next so essentially if you imagine layers of the earth marbles about sort of in the middle and then you get harder and then you've got sort of granite and onyx and you you know those are like your really really hard stones um but marble is is still still hard it's still quite you know it's tough but it will mark and it will scratch and it will it can if not looked after can actually um discolor so it's

really about maintenance for me nothing compares it's beautiful um it is a lot more expensive obviously again than most tiles um but it's about the upkeep and the maintenance of it now don't don't go with um i always talk about polished marble and honed marble in a bathroom you want to go honed polished will obviously every every single little scratch when the sun hits it you can see it it's going to look shiny and therefore if you scratch it or it's going to you're going to see that it's it's a personal choice i think if you're looking for something really hard wearing then go with go with a tile um but don't discredit a marble for how hard wearing it is because it really is and it just needs looking after and treating so look into the different options do you know what my friend i went to go and see one of my favorite

gardens that we did in oxfordshire last week and my client she's amazing she she did the whole house and she but in the most beautiful marble in her kitchen it was kind of the color of um salted caramel ice cream it was like a beige marble not a gray marble oh probably the most beautiful one that I've ever seen and we were talking about she was actually it's really really porous this particular marble to the point where she had put this really thin coating on it of plastic like a plastic um shellac almost yeah on the top game changer so she had all the effect of marble but without the like but you wouldn't get so where you say that when you say that marble is marble is marble there are different colors and variations of it but you wouldn't get so where you say that when you say that marble is marble is marble there are different colors and variations of it but there isn't one that's going

to be softer unless it's really at the very top almost you know the very very top part and therefore it's going to become cheaper well she was saying it was to the point where she would have her like soap pot you know like hand wash soap and she couldn't even have it on the marble because it was ruining it not you know we're not soap and she couldn't even have it on the marble because it was ruining it not you know we're not even talking anyway it sounded very high maintenance but this coating sounded genius well another thing on marble that's worth thinking about so any surface is that is sort of treated you as long as it doesn't you don't let something sit on it for a long time so if you say it says i know oil

or something were to be sitting on it and you left it for 24 hours you're going to come back and you're going to have a mark same with lemon but in a kitchen if you see it and you squirt lemon on the countertop and wipe it straight off it's gone there is a period of time before which it actually starts to erode the surface so you have a bit of it depends how clean you are really can you seal it you are yeah yeah you see it that's what it is sealed it's sealed it will you can still seal honed marble but you just don't see the sealant it's like a sort of do you reseal it yes on a regular basis exactly and you can also sand marble back so you they've all seen layers that you take a millimeter of course so you there are things that you can do absolutely yeah gosh master class in interior stone i love it

good right uh for you on my love i've got one here from cassia k uh best plants please poly for very small sunny balcony oh sure okay lovely okay so sunny balcony then you're really exposed so chances are you're gonna have some wind going on up there as well so um i mean in terms of if you want some green structure then the thing we would probably reach for the most would be pinus mugo which is a little mini pine so it does the same thing as a u-ball or a box ball, but it's a pine. So it's really resilient. So that's a nice little bit of evergreen structure for you. And then, I mean, it's kind of the Mediterranean plants that do well on sort of balconies, roof terraces, because they're sort of hot and dry. So salvias would be a really nice one. You

could go with just the old classic, something like a salvia caradona or an amethyst. And then maybe you could mix that up. I like it on a balcony or a roof terrace to have a little swish. So that's where you reach for grasses, like the old classic ponytail grass, steeper, tenuissima. You'll have seen it everywhere.

Little grass, swishy. And it's one that you just brush with a comb every year to get the dead fronds out love a bit of rosemary on a balcony because then you can just reach out and pick it and on a hot day it sort of releases all of its oils and then you couldn't go wrong with a gowra as well which i talk about a lot generally because it's one of my favorite plants but gowra whirling butterflies lovely tall wispy plant white flowers but i mean that combination together is quite sort of mediterranean hot gravel garden it will work really well on a balcony

in containers dreamy it's um lavender is a good one would it be for a sunny you're gonna have lavender so um question for you with lavender how often are we supposed to water lavender if it's in a sunny spot once the lavender is established you shouldn't need to water it that's the whole point it's a drought tolerant plant so well when as with all plants even the drought tolerant ones when they are establishing so that first year or two when they're getting their roots into the ground then they they need watering regardless, because their roots just aren't, they don't have the system to bring up their own moisture. When something like a lavender is established, it's a drought tolerant plant. I wouldn't be watering that.

That's sort of the whole point of it. Even when it's in a pot? Different beast. Everything in a pot needs watering because it doesn't you know it doesn't have a robust root system that's going into the ground to pull up moisture that might be below the surface it's in a pot it is completely finite and i'm going to say this over and over again until everyone hears it nothing is happy in a pot forever it's it is a finite resource of earth so you either need to repot your plants with new earth so you're giving it new food every couple of years

or accept the fact that so it's people that say what tree can i have on a pot you're like you can have a tree in a pot but the tree will not be happy in the pot forever unless you're going to replenish that which it sits in and obviously watering of pots when you're going to replenish that which it sits in. And obviously watering of pots. When you're watering pots, and lots of people have been asking about this, one trick is to water the pot slowly. So, and this is why we always plant sort of an inch or two below the surface of the pot

so that the water can pool on the top and then seep through. Keep watering slowly, slowly, slowly until the water comes out the bottom of the pot. Go and do all your other ones and then come back through keep watering slowly slowly slowly until the water comes out the bottom of the pot go and do all your other ones and then come back and do it again because if it's really dry soil that water is going to go straight through and it's not going to actually saturate the earth which is what you want water and then water again good trick i've see i've i've really realized this for the first time this year i I've got, is it hydrangea microfilia? Is that what it's called?

Macrophilia. Macrophilia? Oh, the big old mop heads. Yeah, mop head hydrangeas. I've got two of these on either side of my door, side door. And the past two years, they've been amazing, like really full. All those like started off in single pot and they just completely took off and they're incredible. This year, they've not come back. I've not changed the soil the soil and this year you can see they're not that happy in there

they feel that might be what it is maybe it needs a soil change well i mean they're quite a big plant as well if you look at them out and about i'm looking at one now that i inherited it's vast they have the capacity to get really large but hydrangea maybe they need huge amounts of water jojo so if anything's in a pot i give them loads i give them loads give it a good old feed as well anything in a pot you should be feeding once a week at this time of year right okay that's good to know get yourself a good seaweed feed seaweed feed not tomato feed get a seaweed feed like it's a really it's a good one it's got loads of nutrients in it and it's yeah that's it's a good catch-all is a seaweed feed okay it's tomato feed for tomatoes

for sure i've got something here because i we got um a lovely message sent through on instagram and i'm going to read it out to you this message is from samantha and samantha says very early on in your fabulous podcast i asked about paving for my north facing tree lined garden you were kind enough to cover my question and went into detail on the podcast on why porcelain was probably my best option for me garden now completed image below which will attach including porcelain paving i've just finished an eight month renovation and i cannot tell you how much all your commentary information and help that you so generously share every week with your listeners has helped me personally i may have asked a question about outside but all of your inside and outside tips and help has left

me with a house and garden that i'm over at the moon with a massive thank you to you both i would never have achieved this without your guidance massive appreciation massive appreciation to both sam i oh sam you legend isn't that awesome that's honestly makes me think it's because we are both quite tired i think we both like what we're going to be taking a little break i think from the ins and outs but messages like that i tell you that's the reason that we keep going and want to keep doing this so so grateful to that message sam thank you so much thank you that's what a joy it's so good to hear that it's all trickling through to reality too yeah it's amazing that we'll we'll we'll um get those photos and actually pop them on the ins and out on the ins and outs page because it'd be lovely to share those and um anyway my love what's in and out this week in is is cut flowers i'm

harvesting all my cut flowers right now and it is bringing me so much joy i've got nowhere to put them in my house but i'm still loving it give them to the builders maybe i will i don't think men are given flowers often enough actually what's out what is out well it's probably got to be professional ghosting indeed i mean ghosting generally is a hideous practice isn't it but professionally let's stop that yeah it's not nice for anybody sold out no more of that people it's a firm out it has been decreed also out is my singing i am never going to let you and andy bully me into singing i love that i loved it it's just the end notes the rest was brilliant it was just that little note that was slightly out do you know what was really funny

i had a really long drive this week and all the other options of different taylor swift songs that i could have changed your head came to tie head we could do another one come on we've got we've got a grovel so come on how's about give it another one i was like no i'm not singing it it's like no come on you made me do you made me leave a review i was like oh that was a good one oh that would be good okay try another guys if you think of any more taylor swift lyrics that can be turned into bags because i don't care about you because you didn't leave a review all right and that's a good turn for it though that's the that's the riposte when they don't leave one um who are you going to be asking to leave uh some likes subscribes and reviews this week who

who should we ask this week any foragers anyone out foraging can't move for a forager can you have to find them first that'd be a very nice and tell them yeah follow us no do you need to tell anyone that's boring you about glasto anyone that went to Glasto who was lucky enough to get a ticket and is now being a Glasto bore, tell them about it. Right, quite enough of all this. We've got to get on now and do some real work. We've got to get on now. All right.

Toodle pip. Toodle pip. Love you all so much. Thank you for tuning in again. And I'm sorry, by the way, if the sound has been a bit shitty. That's my fault. Something weird's going on with my mic. We're working on it.

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