The Ins & Outs - Genital PIERCINGS, Planter Box Soil & Tips for NEW BUILD CHARACTER!

Episode Date: September 16, 2024

The ladies digress into a deep discussion on Princess Albertina's, before Polly reveals how she's become the nightmare client.Then we get to some questions that you've sent in via our instagram (@the_...insandouts_), covering topics including:Soil for plant boxes.Art work in the bathroom.Tips for bringing character to new builds.AND White render restoration.This episode is brought to you by our amazing sponsor Armac Martin. Since 1929, Armac Martin has been dedicated to creating design-led luxury brass hardware and accessories. Armac Martin is now an award-winning, fourth-generation family business and a leading name in the luxury interiors industry. Click the link below to visit their website!https://www.armacmartin.co.uk/InstagramPodcast - @the_insandouts_Jojo - @houseninedesignPolly - @pollyanna_wilkinsonProducer Andy - @andy_rowe_WebsitesJojo - https://www.housenine.co.uk/Polly - https://www.pollyannawilkinson.com/Pod Rowe Productions - https://www.podrowe.net/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Green, the colour of true elation, pine on a summer's day, see I've been waiting for you, waiting for you Hello my lovely innies and outies and welcome to this episode of the Ins and Outs with myself, Jo are the makers of the sexiest solid brass hardware that I have ever seen. And this week, Jojo, can you please tell us a few of your favourite pieces? So when I choose cabinet hardware, I like to go, it very much depends on the piece and it very much depends on, you know, the style. But one of my absolute go-tos with our mac has got to be the cotswold ball cabinet knob a little ditty cabinet knob and it is quite frankly as you said polly sexy the finishes i love as i said they do
Starting point is 00:00:58 19 different finishes on all their hardware so i love the sort of antique bronze, antique brass. Being a hardware company they don't just do knobs and handles. They also do shelf brackets and brass rails so if you think about any kitchen when you get those lovely little brass rails you can hang all your dishcloths and things from. Those are going to be in mine aren't they? They are. They're the Cotswold Brass Pot Rails and Hook. They are just so gorgeous. The finishes are just beautiful.
Starting point is 00:01:24 For anyone that knows our barn project that beautiful pink kitchen we use the colmore cabinet pull the colmore and it's so sleek and it sort of tapers off at both the ends really elegant but they do also various types of really chunky knobs and delicate knobs and there's something for everybody here guys so go and check them out on macmartin.co.uk they also have ready to ship items so if you're needing something in a hurry they are your go-to um have fun happy shopping in this week's episode we are going to be talking about the female prince albert polly becomes the nightmare client we're talking dog bones and ghost stories.
Starting point is 00:02:06 Is Polly in season? Artwork in the bathroom. Soil for planter boxes. My new build tips for bringing character. And white render restoration. So let's jump on in. Hello, my darling. Hello, my darling.
Starting point is 00:02:23 Hello, darling. How the devil are you? Hello, our darlings, actually, in these narratives. Hello, my darling. Hello, my darling. Hello, darling. How the devil are you? Hello, our darlings, actually, in these narratives. Hello, darlings. Yes, hello, darlings, to you too. How am I? I'm actually really good. I'm good, my love.
Starting point is 00:02:36 I had a haircut last night. Did you? Last night. Yeah, the good thing is about going for a haircut in the evening, post-work, is that they're like, what would you like to drink? It's not like what coffee? Do you want a coffee or tea? It's like, what do you want to drink?
Starting point is 00:02:50 What did you go for? A glass of red wine. Nice. It's so nice. And for the benefit of the listeners, have you gone for a short bob? Well, you know, I only have an annual haircut. So I'm really I have a fear. I fear I'm going to go as far as to say I fear
Starting point is 00:03:05 hairdressers more than I do dentists do you so I yeah I do I'm I'm very low maintenance when it comes to my hair and therefore if I have a chop that just needs a sort of attendance or needs sort of you know to be brushed and looked after then that's just not the one for me why are you scared of a hairdresser what do you think they're gonna do give you a fringe I don't like prim looking I like it when my hair looks a bit sort of a little bit like I've just climbed out of bed I don't know why I don't know what that is yeah just not very good with a sort of perfect haircut so I like it looking a little bit I like it looking a bit just bedheady I like that look and the problem is when I've got cut well it looks just I look very sort of I sort of, I look quite prim, I think. Don't you think? It's very prim looking. No, you look delightful. Your hair is like a glorious mane.
Starting point is 00:03:50 I asked you something called inversion layers. Have you heard about this? No. So instead of having like a Rachel cut, which is like very much shaped around the face. Yes. An inversion layers is when they go the opposite way so that the waves that the layers are supposed to flick away from your face i don't know if it's working very well i don't know if you got what i was going on about sort of showing all these photos i mean if it wasn't wrong i would come over there shave your head and stick it on mine oh thanks pal you're welcome i tell you what though
Starting point is 00:04:20 i would love to cut a bob like yours i had i sort, you know, whenever I go into hairdressers, I was like, I could. I could just do it. I could cut it all off. I don't think it would suit me, though. I don't think it would suit you, mate. I'd love long hair, but mine is so thin that it would just be like a sort of, I'd look a bit like Gollum if I tried to grow my hair. Doesn't Gollum have no hair?
Starting point is 00:04:39 No, he's got some. It's just very thin. It's wispy. And that's not a look I'm looking to achieve just yet I'm going to save that for my uh my later years done anything else to the bod this week I had another ear piercing done I'm slightly addicted to ear piercings um I now have I got one done up the top here because I'm obviously going through a slight midlife crisis I don't know what it is but once you pop you can't stop the old piercings yeah so i'm sort of they're traveling up my ear and then i thought well i might just go a bit higher so i've got one up here but my god it's in the gristly bit it hurts it's tender
Starting point is 00:05:13 that takes a while to stop hurting as well up there does it and then my hair keeps getting stuck in it but i do i do love an ear piercing but then you've got to give them about six weeks and then you can like you know then you can change it to something more exciting. Would you ever get a nip done? No, definitely not. No. Would you? No.
Starting point is 00:05:32 Clit? No, mate. No. No, thank you. Do they actually pierce the clit or is it the area around the clit? Is there another bit? I'm not Googling that. I probably will.
Starting point is 00:05:41 I mean, how would you walk down the street? You'd just be giving yourself a permanent orgasm. Listeners, if anyone has one let us know maybe we should trial it what with a clip on like clip-on earrings oh gosh a clip on little pearl hangling toilet I don't think they sell them in Claire's accessories let's find out I don't think they do that would be I'd be like why are you smiling so much well that'll be the pearl earring doing its thing what's it called when it's um you know there's a Prince Albert for a man for a for a gentleman's genital piercing what's it for piercing but my west country came out there didn't it the piercing of the of the old chap sign but what's it called for a lady
Starting point is 00:06:30 is it called like a princess margaret it could be let's call it that andy are you googling this right now yeah andy the producer's probably got his head in his hands thinking where's this gone we're supposed to be in interiors okay so andy's just told us it's um it's called a princess albertina which would make sense it's the it's the feminine version of that and i think it's a little bar isn't it that runs across anyway gosh we've totally we have we've had a haircut and we've you've pierced your ear and i've pierced my ear it was a real fleeting i do things very on a whim like i'll just sort of be like oh I might get a tattoo today and I'll just drive past somewhere and run in and be like you got a spot you know I'd quite impulsive I'd say like that I don't plan
Starting point is 00:07:11 things I just do them I love that and from um bodily modifications through to uh your children how how did we rocky get on with day one and week one she her first week she's been taking like a little champ she's been loving it. Although she's going through that period now. I don't know if anyone else is experiencing this. I think when kids get so excited when they first start school, they're like, whoa, this new thing. This is really fun.
Starting point is 00:07:35 Like this new uniform. And then it gets to about day three. And they're like, I'm not going back there again, am I? I think I'm done. Thank you. Yeah. So I don't have to go to school today, do I? And I was like, yes, darling, every day. five days a week. Welcome to the rest of your life.
Starting point is 00:07:48 And then on like Tuesday I was like is it the weekend? No darling it's Tuesday so we've still got a way to go yet but but can I not go to school today? No you have to go to school today. So yeah and then I actually pulled out because it's gone very chilly, very autumnal. We won't talk about the weather, but I pulled out a pair of these grey tights. Now, Rocky is not, she doesn't like dark colours. She is a girly girl. She loves dresses. And I pulled out this pair of grey, you know, school tights. And she just went, no, mummy, no, no.
Starting point is 00:08:22 It's the white frilly socks or nothing. And I was like, darling, it it's cold you've got to wear these and she's like no and then it turned into a full-blown fussy tantrum on the floor screaming about putting these gray tights on maybe when she sees all of her mates wearing them she'll come around oh yeah this actually what we do we've got a group chat with local you know my mates and i'll message say what's you know what's flora wearing and then we'll do little videos to each other of flora putting her tights on and then suddenly it's okay cute it's all about just gentle manipulation you girl mums you're adorable exciting news little drum roll tell me
Starting point is 00:08:54 that's not a drum roll that's it um I have finished my book and I still can't talk about what it is but it's a book but in the fullness of time very soon when is this can we can we know when the book's coming out I'm not even allowed to say that but I can say that I will be able to talk about it very very soon and I've got to tell you it's it's been quite tough fitting the book in around um everything else in life I don't know how you do it I don't know how you do it I don't I genuinely don't know how you do it. I don't know how you do it. I genuinely don't know how you fit writing a book in around life.
Starting point is 00:09:28 You just put it in. You know, it's the same with everything, isn't it? You just find space. So that's really exciting. Is there going to be a launch party? I hope so.
Starting point is 00:09:35 I don't really know. We've not really gone into the fun bits yet. I've just been so worried about trying to get it over the line. So now I can relax. I wonder whether you're
Starting point is 00:09:42 getting invited onto like GMTV with Lorraine or something. I mean I'm not Michelle Obama. I don't think Michelle Obama's been on Lorraine's show, has she? Probably not. I think that's the sort of thing they would do. I think they probably would have you on there.
Starting point is 00:09:58 Well let's see. And then in home news oh gosh I've got to update you and update the listeners Jojo because you're proving to me Renault update. So the tiles are in and they're stunning limestone tiles all through the kitchen windows have been delayed again absolute classic um so this week they grouted the tiles and um i had my first experience of being that client it's i bet you try so hard not to be that client you want to be the cool one I have been so cool
Starting point is 00:10:27 you want to be the really cool one every time something's delayed I'm just like oh well these things happen ho ho ho and then I nipped in just to check the grout colour and it was the grout colour that the suppliers had recommended and it's the one that most people want but as we know full well of a year of me talking about it, I'm rather fussy when it comes to grout colours. And it was too white.
Starting point is 00:10:50 It was very white in my eyes. And when we're outdoors, we always try and colour match sort of grout to the stone. I don't really like to draw attention to the fact that there are lots of different tiles. My goal is to try and make it look they're sort of merging into one. Seamless.
Starting point is 00:11:04 Seamless. So these poor men, they had just finished grouting it it was still wet and i was like oh god oh god and i phoned you and i had my team in the office and i was like come and have a look and i phoned my mum can i just say also from my so here i am i can't remember where i was but i got three missed calls from polly yeah and then she's like, and then a WhatsApp being like, what's important, call me. Yes, it was. Because they said it has to come out now or you won't get it out.
Starting point is 00:11:31 And then it was those complete sheer panic. She's like, they're all standing around me, just looking at me and they need an answer right now. What should I do? And I was like, Paul, get it up. Get it up. Also, because you've got,
Starting point is 00:11:40 worth saying, you've got your tiles in your kitchen are basically the same as the ones outside. Slightly different slip rating, of course. Of of course but they're basically the same tiles and therefore if you're going from inside with a sort of quite off-white grout to suddenly outside that was very that's not the one is tonal not the one so i had to they're all staring at me these poor men and they were trying to be kind about it whilst probably swearing in their heads going this effing woman yeah i will say it
Starting point is 00:12:07 is my it is the first time i've been annoying i think i'm sure they would say otherwise so they scraped it all out and i bombed down the a3 to pick up some beige grout drove it back in the it's gone in the next day and it looks nice that you went to get it oh god yeah like i'm not i'm not gonna be like go and get me some different grout. I instantly went and got it, found it, so it's fresh now i would say when i wake up in the morning i am freezing my little socks off this is the thing this is another reason why i say don't live in the house when you have it it's okay at the moment because it's still warm ish but it's getting chilly at night but if you're doing a renovation in the winter and you're choosing to live in the house contractors don't have the same
Starting point is 00:13:05 blood as we do it's true actually I don't I think basically I think I don't think they have blood I think they have tea I think they have builder's tea running through their body which keeps them warm because they don't feel the cold like in the coldest days on building sites and I'll go even just for a two-hour meeting I am like chilled to the bone and there they are in like just t-shirts you're right love just eating a mars bar just like cracking you know cracking with work over here they don't feel the cold like we do so when someone's doing um you know work at your house and the doors are wide open they don't think oh i better close all the windows and doors especially when they're doing work they need ventilation oh this isn't ventilation i just don't own windows and doors especially when they're doing work they need ventilation oh this isn't even ventilation i just don't own windows or doors they're just open holes in like you've literally
Starting point is 00:13:49 got nothing no it's i've got a piece of plywood and then oh gosh i had something else really excited to tell you the greenhouse is going in the greenhouse is going in as we speak oh my gosh oh my gosh i can't wait to see it it's gonna be amazing i can't wait what am i going to grow i feel like a kid in a sweet shop because i've got this whole greenhouse that i've never why don't you grow a beanstalk in the hopes of finding a golden goose yes pay for my renovation very good plan jojo yes very good did i tell you i found the corpse um the bones of a dog whilst digging the pushing oh you didn't yeah oh that's gonna happen isn't it in renovations yeah that happens quite frequently in in garden builds we'll find
Starting point is 00:14:31 old pet graves it's really sad but we gave it up we we put it back and we said sorry and did you yeah yeah that's so nice although you'll have a ghost of a dog walking around that might be fun oh my god can i just quickly digress onto ghosts a second? In our building, we are attached to an old, so there's our office building and then it's attached to what used to be a hospital. And on the other side of that is a monastery. Yes. Full of these sweetest little old nuns you've ever seen. It's really sweet.
Starting point is 00:14:59 Anyway, so this hospital is now completely redundant. No one lives there. No one lives there. No one is there anymore and it has been like that for a long time it's really spooky i don't know why when you go in there so we we have a storage unit in there so we have to go in and it's totally empty and it's really spooky you walk in and it's got a really odd it's an odd energy so when the girls they always go in twos down to our storeroom and there was an
Starting point is 00:15:25 electrician working in there recently and he came over and he was talking to one of the girls and the girls were like we call our storage unit we call it the scary room and he was like oh you want to see scary and he showed a video of one of the light he wasn't in there it's a security video and the light is just doing this it was just rocking back and forth but in a really jolty way it wasn't doing it in a gentle like if someone had touched it and moved it was doing it in a really awkward kind of way like someone was tugging it yeah no the girls were like oh my god it's yeah i mean it's it's an old hospital you'd expect it to be haunted well yeah if you believe in that 100 anyway so back to the back to back to your garden and dog bones yeah yes well that's my news darling dog bones oh um grouting
Starting point is 00:16:11 and a book there you go amazing that's all pretty exciting news in one week that's i'd say that's pretty pretty good news oh but there is something we must discuss and then we'll go on to questions go on i do you find that you i say i i find the best time the sort of best shopping wardrobe time is is september i love i love the sort of shopping you love an autumnal yeah well i wonder if that's because that's your colors pal your autumnal i mean your color you literally are a walking autumn aren't you i am yeah i'm entering into my season you're coming into your season you're coming into your own my love I'm not coming into my season that's what dogs do isn't it I'm good
Starting point is 00:16:48 I actually I had it no or am I I had bitches and when they come into season it is deep it's deeply unpleasant the smell and the whole experience is so deeply deeply unpleasant it's not the one it's not no it's not tickle me okay but it's a big shopping season isn't it so do you find do you like i like to buy kind of a good pair of winter boots or a nice nice bit of cashmere yeah winter clothes i'm yeah I'm, yeah, tucking away. I felt like only yesterday I was putting all my cashmere in a bag, in a Ziploc bag. And suddenly it's out. Out it comes. It's out.
Starting point is 00:17:31 Gotta get that stuff out. Not wearing it today. Although I have to say, as soon as it starts getting chilly, I do really look forward to the thought of winter. And I suddenly get quite excited for Christmas, even though that's fucking miles away. But I still get that like, ooh, we've got some fun stuff coming up. We have got fun stuff. There's like Halloween's not miles away but i still get that like oh we've got some fun stuff coming up we've we have got fun stuff there's like halloween's not far away and then you've got fireworks night and all the sort of like getting all chilly and going to the pub and roast dinners and lots of more red wine more red wine a bit more red wine you're selling it to me well actually that's it
Starting point is 00:18:00 i'm going to ask you a question before we get into our questions. Because you said the C word. Is there anything we need to be doing now? I thought it was a C word. For a minute I was like, did I say that on this podcast? No, I think Andy's managed to keep that one out despite it being your favourite word. If people want things like sofas, dining tables for Christmas, all of that, is now the time to be ordering or is it too late? No, it's definitely not too late.
Starting point is 00:18:27 Definitely not too late. And also sofa companies now are becoming a lot more accommodating. I mean, the companies we use are here in the UK. So I think you want to give yourself a good six weeks if you want something you really love. To get on with it now, basically. I'd say start to look now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:42 Yeah. But I do also think when you're buying a piece of furniture like a sofa, you know, I always say make sure you're planning your whole room around it as well because sofa's such a key purchase. Think about the colours already in your room. That's quite important. You might end up buying a sofa and then, you know, changing the entire thinking that gets there and you're like,
Starting point is 00:19:02 the paint colour suddenly looks wrong on the walls. I see. You've got to think about all of the colors together because it's a good time to think about gardening bits for christmas as well so we'd start thinking about some of those certainly you'd be ordering them god like a broken record but you'd start thinking about planting some of your indoor bulbs if you want sort of um you know paper whites or amaryllis and things for christmas so we'll talk about that next week i think we should have a um a counter for every time you say the word bulb no i'm going to try next episode i'm going to try and not say it once promise so i think if every time you say the word
Starting point is 00:19:34 bulb yeah we're gonna we're gonna punish you in some way oh oh what way oh what way what's the way bulb bulb bulb spank spank god what's wrong with us we're so filthy i'm so sorry everyone i'm so sorry this is so not a family-friendly podcast i'm not going to be a bulb bore i promise it's only because i'm deeply invested in your spring gardens but look if you want a boring spring garden, have one. I'm not going to be a bulb bore. That could be the name of your new book. That's the next book. That's book two.
Starting point is 00:20:13 You're going to now be known as the bulb bore. No, I'm not. Spread it. No, I won't say you're not. No, I shan't have it. You spread it. All right, we're going to start with a question from Kellylly hi jojo and polly hope you had a good summer i can't wait for the next podcast a question for jojo i need to add some artwork to my downstairs
Starting point is 00:20:32 shower room i know artwork is such a personal choice but would love your help on what might work in a bathroom it's a farmhouse style decor and i love antique pieces of artwork. Thank you very much. Oh, well, Kelly. Trixie. Yeah, the shower room. Think about art in a shower room. Oh, moist. What do you think is going to happen? Thank you. Moist. You have to be really careful putting artwork in a room that is going to get moisture and in the shower room, no matter how good your fan is. That's why you don't tend to see much artwork in shower rooms oh my god i've never thought about it
Starting point is 00:21:10 because the steam will eventually get into the picture and the paper will start to sort of ripple and then of course if you have something like a bit of antique a painting it's not going to like that at all so what can you do well and also also it very very very much depends on how good the ventilation is in that room and how big the room if it's a really big shower room and you've got space put it above the loo for instance because it's probably far enough away from the shower yeah but it's a very small shower room then it will get really steamy won't it it's going to get steamy unless you shower the doors and windows open which i very much doubt you would um it's going to get steamy and even the glass obviously the glass think what happens
Starting point is 00:21:49 to your bathroom mirror so the the yeah you're you're the artwork is going to steam up it's going to steam up so unless you went with something like a not much of a fan of a canvas what about like um is this why you see i'm not sure if this is going to be like suggesting something hideous outside but would you do sort of you know there's like metal things you can have i'm not saying this is remotely what you should do but you know how they sort of mount three metal fishes or it's like a bovril sign or something or like yeah no you're exactly right yeah like a like a wooden sign saying gone fishing yeah but not but you know what i mean could you use something that wasn't um yes mounted in a frame
Starting point is 00:22:30 yes exactly that's exactly what that is classier than the things i just described yes something like not like not that but that yeah like a sort of wicker heart or something well i don't know but something not behind glass is that the solution exactly I would say that's going to be your solution and I think if it's a sort of country style bathroom I think you're going to have to go down that route definitely right let's hop out to the garden come on then grabbing my cup of tea and I'm coming out to the garden to see you you might need a coat it's getting chilly it is my Okay, I'm going to ask this one here from Rosie. Hello, Rosie.
Starting point is 00:23:07 Hello, Rosie. Hello, I absolutely love the podcast and I'm so grateful for all your advice. I have a question. We have raised beds in our garden for our flower beds because our crap London soil. Over the years, I've noticed gradually less and less is growing well in them. And I'm wondering, do I need to feed the soil in the beds? If so, with what? I've tried various things, but nothing seems to have made a real difference. Thank you so, so much. Okay. You haven't told me the size of them, but I'm going to go out there and guess
Starting point is 00:23:35 they're not very big. Because London, come on, size. London. So, right. This is going to be true of anything in a trough, anything in in a pot and anything in a planter and that includes raised planters that is not in ground that is essentially in a container albeit troughs um a raised planter would probably have a an open open bottom as in i'm assuming it's connected to the earth do you know what i mean rather than having a base yeah but that raised amount of soil is has a finite amount of nutrients in it so there are two reasons why your plants might not be thriving number one it might be completely knackered soil and it's becoming more and more challenging with
Starting point is 00:24:17 peat-free compost which of course i completely and 100 endorse but it's commonly acknowledged that the nutrient factor in it is much less um obviously a peat-free compost is never going to be as nutrient dense as peat but that is a small price to pay for you know protecting our world so it's not good enough to just enrich with with composts now so that's why i'm always talking about adding organic matter and what i mean by that is something like a well-rotted manure and this isn't something you do once when you plant it and then you leave it and you go there you go job done the reason I harp on about mulching every year is because essentially what you're doing is replenishing your stock so to speak so every um frankly you can mulch any time from now until
Starting point is 00:24:58 well you can mulch any time of year but in terms of ease it's easiest to do any time from now until like April. And you're going to add a really big, fat, thick layer. I'm not talking like a little sprinkle. I'm talking, oh, I'm holding my hand up. Jojo, what's that in dimensions? Oh, disappointing. About four inches, I'd say.
Starting point is 00:25:20 Disappointing. Yes. Three, four inches worth of mulch. Yes. You know exactly how big that is, pals. Three, four inches worth of mulch. Yes. You know exactly how big that is pals.
Starting point is 00:25:28 Oh dear. Of mulch. It's the size of a decent chode. Yes. That. You want a
Starting point is 00:25:36 really good thick layer of mulch and that could be something like a mushroom compost. It could be
Starting point is 00:25:42 something like a well rotted manure and you're going to turn that in and you're going to do that at least once a year so that is at least going to give your plants a fighting chance now i would put good money on the fact it also may be that your plants are getting too big for your planters because the big mistake that a lot of people do when they do raise beds or buy pots or troughs is that they're quite mean and most plants
Starting point is 00:26:04 get quite big by their nature. So it might well be that they just don't have room for their roots to grow and spread as well. So it might just be that actually there needs to be a degree of turnover in terms of replacing certain plants if they're not thriving because they have outgrown their space. So it could be any number of those two things. But when people say to me, if you listen to gardener's question type up comes the question over and over again i've got something in a pot and it's not happy nine times out of ten the answer is because it isn't being like it's either outgrowing the space in the pot or it doesn't have enough food nothing will ever be happy forever in a pot so there we go same with planters okay we've got a question from hannah i'm moving from a lovely victorian terrace with lots of character to a semi-detached
Starting point is 00:26:49 new build what advice would you give to bring some charm to the new build p.s i am not afraid of color oh good i like to hear it yes hannah so i love this question because because it's obviously a joy to live in a house that's full of traditional features. And it's just instantly got charm, hasn't it? But when you move somewhere new, it tends to be quite stripped of character. It's quite sort of boxy. It can be lacking in any sort of architectural details. So I don't know how far you're willing to go. I don't know how far you're willing to go but number one thing for me would be to put architectural details into the house okay in the way of coving skirtings architraves yeah paneling
Starting point is 00:27:31 yeah those sorts of things are what's going to make it feel layered and give it a bit more of a sort of traditional tailored feel could you kindly remind me the difference between a coving and an architrave okay oh yeah so an architrave? Oh, yeah. So an architrave is what goes around your doors and windows. Okay. That's the bit that goes around up from the skirting around the doors and windows. Lovely. And then your coving is the strip that goes around your ceiling, between your ceiling and your walls.
Starting point is 00:27:57 And can coving... Also known as cornicing. Thank you. That's what was throwing me off. Cornicing, coving, same thing. Yeah, it's got two names. I know there are lots of different types of coving and cornicing or is there just like two to two? Oh, honey. Oh, you wouldn't. Yeah. Hundreds and hundreds and hundreds. Think about when you go
Starting point is 00:28:14 into a Georgian property or a Victorian property or even just a modern house and you just get a square. There are so many and you can put mouldings on ceilings and ceiling roses and you can have double layered coving and you can widen up your architraves around doors you can put crowns above door you know above door openings there's so many options skirt even skirting boards you know you've got you can go all the way from sort of four inch six inch eight inch ten inch twice you can go really high so it's all that we we tend to think about the height of the walls um will sort of depend on and and the and the style of the property on what skirting or architrave we choose and the and the and the uh profile that we choose okay so
Starting point is 00:28:56 adding in those sort of woodworkery definitely yes brings character but then beyond that obviously if you're not going to be considering all this sort of architectural details and spending the money it's going to be in what you bring in in the way of your furniture your curtains your artwork your think about going to some antique fairs and buying some antique bits of furniture it's those layers of furniture it's all those lovely cushions and throws and rugs and that's what makes I think makes her home a home but I think if you want to really add that sort of that character I think it's going to be yeah it's it's it's going to be furniture and and I think also think about the the your sort of window dressings you know
Starting point is 00:29:38 don't go just straight up blinds put blinds on and then put another layer of curtains over the top you know you want to add you want to add warmth i think layering is so important in new builds i talk about that a lot but it's layering it's like having it so having a dining table in a box in a sort of you know in a room that hasn't got much character think of a dining table that's maybe a farmhouse style table and then the chairs that you put with it don't just go hard chairs go with something that's got fabric on them um and then you know put some nice rustic wooden bowls on the corner you know on the on the on the table and bring in put it on a nice size little rug it's those things are going to give it sort of you know character
Starting point is 00:30:13 can i just deep dive into the architectural piece a bit more just because i think um if there's one thing i'm learning through this renovation is that any sort of general rules are really helpful so for example let's she's going into the sort of uh new belt do you do you do the same architrave in every room or would you mix it up you can mix it up so sorry not architrave cornicing apologies yes you can but i would say it's your it very very much depends on the house itself you want to stick to an era if you like either victorian okay either georgian either edwardian you don't want to sort of leap from one to the other um so you can mix it up but i would only really do that in your sort of more formal rooms so your living room you could go a bit chunkier you could go a bit bigger you could go slightly
Starting point is 00:31:01 more ornate yes but then instead of like you're sort of maybe even a hallway if it's quite a grand hallway you could go a bit more interesting but or maybe even a dining room so you can definitely mix it up but then i would say it very much depends if it sounds like it's quite a contemporary property if we just assume it's just a let's just say that it's an end of very very typical uh new build yeah neither grand nor not grand just just sort of really typical new build let's imagine it's that we don't know so then what would you do i would go with a sort of victorian okay profile something really simple victorian six inch to eight inch high coving uh skirtings yeah something simple like an og coving um it's always a good one og og like original original you'll be og baby oh gee oh gee
Starting point is 00:31:48 but one thing i didn't add here and she even made a point of this was color yes i'm sorry i went too deep on the details but what is og can we just clarify oh sorry i was doubted og is a is a profile it's just a profile of a skirting or an architecture okay og spelled literally og o-g-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e- with sort of grey undertone you want to warm it up so and and have have fun with colour you know don't don't be afraid to have a bit of fun with colour if it's a small room you know you could go with something like a sort of pink or a terracotta or you know nice greens I think have fun with colour I'd say keep your keep your primary rooms like your living room kitchen entrance hall keep those areas sort of quite like I always like to keep those areas quite neutral yeah but then as you go into sort of studies and guest bedrooms and you know you can i think you can
Starting point is 00:32:49 add add some fun add some color wallpaper love that yeah we did a bit of a deep dive there but i really we deep dive um no worries my love okay uh hopping back outside to the garden let's give another one out here okay this one is from nadine hello i can't wait for you both to be back in my ears oh i have an outie question please we followed the fad a few years back of white render in our garden and on a cascade of planters downstairs inevitably this render has done badly but is now falling to pieces cracking and no longer white any ideas on what we could do to restore it without going back white any ideas on what we could do to restore it without going back down the render route could we cover it up with some cladding
Starting point is 00:33:29 or best to rip it out and start again it'll be an annoyingly big job but definitely isn't going to go isn't giving some santorini vibes in surrey that we were going for and now realize shouldn't exist for a reason thank you so much love the pod nadine kiss oh nadine mate i'm sorry there's a reason i don't like white render right to be fair it's probably before she heard you banging on about it i'm sure 100 percent yeah and you know i'm i'm waving the flag now preventing others from the same mistake so really interesting there's a couple of choices here so let's pretend your render was in good nick but you just didn't like it because it was green all the time which actually is really common
Starting point is 00:34:04 in quite a few of our projects then we will always go to painting it and my favorite color to paint render is kind of the color of milky coffee i find that really brings a lot of warmth and it eliminates the sort of greenery and i think that's lovely but obviously you have said that yours has blown which is is also really common. So when we're looking at different options for retaining walls, render is one of the most inexpensive options, which is why it's so frequently used and understandably so. Then we're looking at cladding or we're looking at planting in front of it as well. So if you can, and I'm presuming not,
Starting point is 00:34:41 but if there are people out there wondering about any sort of hiding retaining walls, I'm presuming not, but if there are people out there wondering about any sort of hiding retainables, sometimes what we'll do is paint the blockwork black and plant an evergreen hedge such as you in front of it. If you're not going to see it because it's got a really, really dense hedge in front of it, why spend money on cladding it? But if you're putting in a new one or the render is coming off, then what we would tend to do is this sort of a varying scale. You've got render as the most inexpensive option. Your next option would be something like cladding it with stone or porcelain and actually one which is really really good that we have found works beautifully is something a product called design clad and that is sold at london stone london stone is a great
Starting point is 00:35:20 stone supplier it's a really really thin format porcelain and it comes in all sorts of different colours. It's very convincing. They've got ones that look like corten. They've got ones that look a bit like leady, zinky greys, which can look stunning when they look like a metal. They've got creams which sort of would match buff paving. They've got loads of colours. Go and have a look. But that's stunning because essentially that gets stuck on. And that's a sort of halfway house, quite reasonable option. And then on top of that, you could also clad it with stone. Obviously, the render would need to be chipped off first, clad it with stone, or you could clad it with beautiful sort of dry stone, walling effect stone. But that really is the most premium because of the labour involved.
Starting point is 00:35:57 So you've got sort of a sliding scale of different choices there from hiding it with plants up to cladding it with various different materials so i hope that helps i'm sorry it's one of those really annoying expensive things that you do the first time around and then sometimes have to undo which is why i was trying to avoid it really oh dear now we have an absolute bank of brilliant questions so thank you so much everybody for sending them in um we will try and get through them over the coming weeks um and thank you very much we love you and it's so it is so good to be back but i think it's that time now to find out well this week what is in and what is out i've got a good in go on give
Starting point is 00:36:41 me give me um i've spent too much time this month trying to purchase a brown suede jacket. We've been talking about brown as a fashion colour for a year now. God, it's old hat, isn't it? But it's all about suede now, isn't it? And I really want like a sort of 90s suede jacket. Can't find one for love nor money. Have you looked at frame? Frame denim?
Starting point is 00:37:06 No, I haven't. I know it's spinny but the one i want is from coz but it's sold out this always happens the best thing okay always sell out like the first week they come in sort of late have you have you looked on vinted i haven't that's a good idea honestly i've got the biggest part anyone out there do we all like i'm fully I fully love vintage so now before I go and look for anything new yeah I go on vintage to see if I can find it first even books pal like books anything kids vintage okay vintage kids wellies is it like eBay I've not this isn't it but it's so quick it's so quick and it's and you can chat to the person of it it's really quick how is it different for me though it's not quick and you can chat to the person. It's really quick. How is it different for me though?
Starting point is 00:37:46 It's not nearly as complicated. There's no auction. No, no auction. It's like you just message the person. You can put a little bid and they go, yeah, sure, I'll take it. I mean, we're talking about, especially for kids stuff, because I think kids clothes. Oh, okay, go on.
Starting point is 00:37:59 I find it mad how you can spend 20 quid on something for, you know, your little one that they're going to wear once and it's probably going to get a paint stain down 100% like halloween costumes oh god that's oh um so in for me it's brown suede i'm obsessed i would also quite like a brown suede bag i would also just like quite like to just i'm gonna actually dress head to toe and i actually feel like i'm gonna go and find you something now I'm vinted. Okay. That sounds like an advert, doesn't it? It's not. It's actually not an ad.
Starting point is 00:38:27 I just bloody love vinted. Jojo just really likes it. Hey, vinted. Hey, vinted. You can sponsor us if you like. Okay. So what's out? Have you got an out for me?
Starting point is 00:38:37 Yes, of course. She's got something. She's got it. What's out? It's Jojo's moan. Pardon me? You know how my... No, flies.
Starting point is 00:38:43 The bastard flies that I absolutely hate they're all gone now because it's the one good thing about it turning cold is the fucking flies have gone yeah but do you know
Starting point is 00:38:52 what's replaced them holy moly I was terrified the other day I got out of the shower picked up my towel the biggest spider I've
Starting point is 00:38:58 oh no I like spiders I like spiders I don't like daddy long legs they freak me out this was such a big boy though but it was I'm not I like spiders. I like spiders. I don't like daddy long legs. They freak me out. This was such a big boy though. I like spiders and I respect them. I just don't want to spend any time with them. I would never hurt a spider. I was going to say, would you kill it?
Starting point is 00:39:15 No, never, never. Good. But I'll never hurt any. I can't. I couldn't. No, no, they're adding. And also, all insects have beneficial properties. Come on. I've got the owl. What is it? It's not flies. What is it?
Starting point is 00:39:28 I feel like this is going to set something off. But I feel terribly cruel about this. But I have three cats, as everyone knows. I think we get brought presents from the cats. I'm going to go as far as to say about three two three mice a day we're bought a day sometimes we come down in the morning and there's just a pair of like legs of something sitting on the carpet there's blood stains everywhere it is permanent i'm it is permanent and i know we live in the country i've done something i bought i bought bells for them for the cat they are not happy with me oh because it
Starting point is 00:40:07 nice does it if a cat could raise its middle claw to me it would it would they would all just be like i hate you now is that why people put bells on cats it's why they put bells on cats apparently it cuts down apparently it cuts down the deaths by about 50 but i do need to apparently you can also give cats quite bad anxiety because i do need to suss out whether it's actually going to it's more cruel than it is kind because it's like it's it's it's you know what's the saying half a dozen of one the other six of one that's the one um It's either I'm cruel to the wildlife or I'm cruel to my cats. I feel so heartbreaking. Anyway, so I put bells on them and I know some people are going to be like,
Starting point is 00:40:53 that's so cruel that I can't deal with the amount of wildlife deaths. Is that cruel? It's not like they're starving. No, they eat a lot. They eat so much food and yet they bring in all of these animals. So you're just protecting the environment, pal. You're just being a responsible cat owner. I'm protecting my little ecosystem around here.
Starting point is 00:41:11 Anyway, so that for me is what's out is hopefully birds and mice. Dead mice. Yes. It's a lovely way to end, isn't it? Sorry. All right, my darling. Well, listen, I've got to scoot. I've got stuff to do, places to go, people to see. All right well darling well listen i've got to i've got a scoot and what stuff to do places to go people to see all right i love you hot darling i love you dearly um and we love you all in these
Starting point is 00:41:34 and just one last thing for polly to do go now's a great time to book in a tree surgeon for winter so what i would like you to do this week i would like you to like like the episode i would like you to share the episode and when i say share the episode i feel i have been unspecific i would like you to share it to your instagram stories please oh my gosh that is where i would like to see them my goodness i want a barrage of tags this coming week that's what I want so I would like you to share it there I feel like maybe I've been a bit willy-nilly about my specificity about where you share them and then right Polly I think that we're being far too nice here start sharing for God's sake do as you are told innies and outies for God's sake and then your bulbs and share. Buy your bulbs. And also, go and pop on and write a review.
Starting point is 00:42:27 Do it as your good deed for the week. Go on. Unless it's not a nice review and then don't. Because as my mother taught me, if you've not got anything nice to say, keep it to yourself. Keep it to yourself. And then I would also, in terms of sharing, also like it for you to share it with your local tree surgeons when you book in for your winter print. And your gutter clearing, because that should be being done now as well. Them too. I imagine both of these services are going to be riveted with this podcast.
Starting point is 00:42:54 And chimney sweeps. It's an excellent time to get your chimney swept, guys. Don't forget, a lot of animals might be up there. Things could be clogged. Get those chimneys swept. Tell them all. Right. Good. I'm glad. Right. Good. I'm glad we've got there. That took at least 17 minutes of the podcast.
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