The Ins & Outs - MR BIG joins Polly

Episode Date: May 6, 2025

Hello Innies & Outies, you may have seen on social media the incredibly sad news that our gorgeous Jojo has lost her beautiful daddy. So Jojo has taken some time out to grieve with her family and we all send her the biggest love in the world!In her stead this week, Mr Big (Colin) joins Polly, where they open up about their love story and dig into some of your Outies questions.This week's episode is brought to you by Best Heating! Whether you're planning a renovation or searching for your perfect piece, Best Heating have got you covered. Make sure you check them out at https://www.bestheating.com/ BestHeating, have curated an elegant collection of radiator valves and pretty little extras like pipes and wall stays to help you achieve the perfect look. From traditional to contemporary, you'll find the ideal pieces to complement your radiator and elevate your entire room.InstagramPodcast - @the_insandouts_Jojo - @houseninedesignPolly - @pollyanna_wilkinsonProducer Andy - @andy_rowe_WebsitesJojo - https://www.housenine.co.uk/Polly - https://www.pollyannawilkinson.com/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Green, the colour of true elation, Pond on a summer's day, See, I've been waiting for you, waiting for you. Welcome to the Inns and Outs podcast with myself, Pollyanna Wilkinson, and the very lovely Jojo Bar. Now, listeners, hopefully you will have seen on our social media the incredibly sad news that our gorgeous Jojo has lost her wonderful, lovely, glorious daddy. And so our girl is taking a bit of time out

to be with her family and to grieve and to mourn and we are all sending her all the love in the world. We miss you, we love you, we hope you're doing okay. In her stead, as we talked about last week, we have the one and only Mr. Big, Colin, my other half. Hello. In this week, we are talking about our love story. We're going to face off on trees and the big debate, Cornus versus Cherry. We're going to talk gravel in the garden and how to retain it. And Colin is going to talk to us about his stint as the diet coke guy. This week's episode is brought to you by our friends at Best Heating so whether you're planning a renovation or searching for your perfect piece, Best Heating have got you covered. Now we have almost entirely got Best Heating radiators in

the house now we've got the Milano, except my darling, there are a handful that are not yet. And my God, you hate them. They're horrible. I absolutely adore the new radiators, but the old ones are hideous. It's amazing the difference it makes, right? So we've got the Milano, we've got it in cream, we've got it in anthracite and we've got it in bronze. And then in the kids' rooms, we do not. We do not, no.

And one day we will replace all of them with the Milano from Best Heating and I suggest you do too because it is a beautiful one. So make sure you check them out at www.bestheating.com. Let's dive on in. Well, look who it is. Hello. It's Mr Big. Hello. Hello.

It's a pleasure to be here. This is, this is, I'm, I'm an avid fan. This is, this is a dream, dream come true. Mr Big, also known as Colin. Thank you. I'm a fan of you. I'm a fan of you. I'm a fan of you.

I'm a fan of you. I'm a fan of you. I'm a fan of you. I'm a fan of you. I'm a fan of you. I'm a fan of you. I'm a fan of you. I'm an avid fan. This is a dream come true. Mr Big, also known as Colin, thank you for helping us out. Well, innies and outies, you've all heard about him. You heard about him since the beginning. And now he's here. He's very kindly coming to, well, not fill Jojo's shoes. No one could fill Jojo's shoes.

Absolutely not. No. But happy to step in. And we're going to have a garden themed ins and outs session. So it's more of an outs podcast today. So bear with us, Innie. I promise you'll learn something. But see, why don't you, who are you and where did you come from? Why don't you explain? Obviously you're Mr. Big. Mr. Big. You're my partner. Yes, I am your other half. Love of my life.

I'm a garden landscape designer. I've been working in the industry for over 20 years, designing, building, looking after gardens. But now you've hung up your tools, you're getting old. I am. I'm also quite a tall chap, you might have noticed. I always loved designs, loved building gardens but you know it takes its whole physically and so I've kind of hung up my tools and now I design full-time. We'll give you a quick update on our life but it's a bit weird telling each other what we've been doing when we've been doing it together. But for the sake of you guys,

C, why don't you tell everyone what we're going to do this bank holiday weekend? Well, it's very important. Very, very important job to do because our chicken babies are soon to arrive and we are building them a home. Yes. I'm so excited. We are sort of decorating the nursery. Oh my God, I love it. I hadn't thought of it that way. Is this it? So we're not going to, we won't have children together. We've got enough children between us.

I'm a bit worried that we're going to get too attached to these chickens, but we will make them. We are in the process of making them a beautiful home and that is our job for the bank holiday weekend. Yes, we know how to live. There's no kids around. So what we're doing is unpacking 17 boxes of egg glue from omelette and sort of a cage. What do we call it?

A cage? I don't like the word cage. I think we have a coop and we have a run. A run. Thank you. Yes. I don't like the word cage. And, and we've got a clever feeder and we've got, oh my gosh, there's just so much to do.

So we will be building that tomorrow, maybe with a spicy Marg. Good idea. Should we have spicy Margs on Monday? Great idea. So that's what we're doing. And then the chickens arrive in a week. And look, we went for five of them. We took advice.

We went for five because, remind me why we went for five. We went for five because one of our brilliant prison listeners actually said, get as many as you want because it's really hard to introduce new ones. Because the pecking order, which I have never thought about, is an actual thing. So when we put them all together, they will peck each other to figure out who is top dog, Top chicken. I can't wait to watch it. We're going to have to install a camera down there. I'm just going to be down there all the time watching the girls. I can't wait. I'm a little trepidatious just because. You know that you're cleaning them out. That I'm going to clean them out and probably feed them. And we spoke about

this and we figured that they would probably fall in love with me because I will be their primary caregiver. All women fall in love with you, my love. Even the chicken variety. And I think you might feel cross and the chickens run to me. Okay. Well, actually, do you know what? We've got a lot of questions. Thank you everyone for your questions. And they, they oscillate from the sublime to the ridiculous. There's quite a few which are actually just related to us. So we'll answer those, but we will, we will pepper it with garden advice as well. So that it's not just the Polly and Colin show, which well, the Pollen show, or Colpol

as a few people have written in, which I don't know how I feel about. Not for you. Not too sure about that. No? Pollin. Pollin. Should we answer something helpful now? We'll alternate between helpful and unhelpful. Okay, I love this question. This is from Ginny. I've just planted borders a la Polly's amazing book. All the perennials I've chosen are going to be beaut. Yes, they are. And I'll have flowers marked through to October plus winter structure because I have been listening. Yes, you have. But currently, as they're all so teeny tiny, it looks a bit bare and sad. Can I do anything this summer to zhuzh? Spelled Z-H-U-Z-H. I didn't know that's how you spell zhuzh.

The borders up. Go on then. Great question. Brilliant question. Over to you, sir. Let's see what you've got. You will always have gaps in your borders, especially when you are newly planted. It's very normal. And sometimes some things conk out and you just find little gaps. So good to have gap fillers. And if you want that zhuzhen your first or second year of planting, I would say go for some annuals. So these are plants that are just going to flower through the summer and they will die back in the winter.

If you need some new annuals next year, you'll have to buy it all. Yeah, they're not coming back next year. So things like cosmos. Which cosmos? Oh, they are so many. I love apricotter. Nice. Double click rose.

Yes. Fill your beats with cosmos. There's a cosmos for everybody. We're doing, which one are we doing this year? Double click, Cranberry. We did Rose Bon Bon last year. That was the pink one. The very frilly one. Frilly one, I love that. This year, Cranberry. We're going darker. What else?

I love Nicotiana, which is tobacco. Is it actually tobacco? Yeah, yeah. The clue is in the name. Do you like the tall one or the short one? I like the really tall one. Me too. Tall white one. Beautiful scent at dusk. Absolutely unparalleled scent. Beautiful. Or you could try some summer bulbs. So gladioli. We've got some glads. We've got some glads. We're doing an experiment this year. Yeah. With, oh gosh, what have we got? Rusty chestnut. You're a

rusty chestnut. And I really hope that our espresso come back from last year, but I don't know. But glads are good, aren't they? Glads are good. You kind of want tall things. Tall fillers. Actually, the tip, little tip for glads is don't plant them all at once, which is exactly what I've done. Plant them, if you do them, plant some now, plant some in two weeks and some two weeks after then you'll get more succession. If you plant them all now, they're all flower at the same time. So they'll look cracking briefly. Always full of brilliant tips. That's why I listened to the podcast. Oh, stop it. Stop it, you old flirt. What else have we got? Okay. Fillers. I completely

agree. I mean, they will fill out. So don't be tempted to overstuff with the perennials. Trust the process, because Colin always accuses me of overstuffing our beds. You're a bit of a stuffer. How dare you? So are you. No, but you must obey the spreadings. And as you say, those annuals are good. Really, with that, you just want to make sure, don't overstuff it with perennials. You can put your annuals in for this year, but there is going to be full, I mean, P9, nine centimetres, they are going to look tiny this year, but by next year, that'd be really quite full. Filling out and you won't see too much soil.

No, you really won't. Too many gaps. Because the things in there, if you've gone for a sunboarder like Nepeta, like Geranium, they get huge. So you probably only want one year of bulbs, bulbs and annuals. Oh, I love this one. This is from Becky. What's it like being Polly's handyman? I like that everyone's clear. It's a great job. I did have to apply for it. Doesn't pay very well. The hours are long. I love being a handyman. I'm pretty handy. I love making things, you

know, being a landscaper for years. It's a bit different doing things in the house. So all the sort of carpentry that I've done around the house. It's a good challenge. I love a challenge. But you're also an amazing cook. I shouldn't sell you if someone's going to come and steal you. All of these things are similar. I think if you enjoy making, it's all creative. So you enjoy making things, food, putting shelves up. You'd be very humble. He's literally he clad the pantry. Not a euphemism. He created, he

put work tops in the pantry in the utility. He's created shelves. He's created an entire, what would we call it? Like a TV unit? Is that what we call it? Well, like a faux chimney breast built in cupboard. Media unit. It's great. It's lovely living with a handyman. Another question. This is from GC. She says, I'm a longtime listener and I'm planning garden improvements whilst the house is being renovated. We currently have lots of paving, which we can't afford to change, but we'll be ensuring there's loads of planting to try and counteract that. Thank you for the wisdom. The question

is for a table seating area, could we use binding gravel to avoid even more hard standing? It's the sunniest part of the garden. It's currently grass. We'd like to sit and enjoy the flowers and the sun. So they want to basically create, put some furniture somewhere. And you know how I feel about furniture on grass. So what's, what do you reckon? Yeah. I don't love furniture on grass. Feels, I don't know, doesn't feel quite right to me. Gravel though, but self-binding gravel is a brilliant option and a lovely look as well. I mean, it's very sort of Provencal, kind of French Mediterranean. Do use the right gravel. If it's not self-binding gravel,

if it's the normal kind of- Pea gravel. Pea sort of gravel, then your furniture is gonna sink into it. That's not gonna be fun. You'll be like putting furniture on the beach, wouldn't it? Yeah. But it has a different feel to paving.

So I quite like that self-binding gravel. And it's definitely more economical. And how would you finish it? You need edging. Any gravel area needs a bit of an edge. So you could use Quartend steel, you could use a brick edge, use strips of paving, clay pavers, cobbles. Do we share the same feelings about having a timber edge? Timber is fine, but it's a low cost option.

It's not going to last forever. It's going to rot. So if you want it to last in stone or steel. But steel's like an economical choice, right? If you just bought an inexpensive, it doesn't need to be fancy, it doesn't need to be some brand, it can just be like steel off the shelf. And it's so easy to install yourself. It's a great sort of DIY project to do in the garden. Really simple installation. How do you do it? It's good fun. Different edgings have different sort of systems for basically their pegs. You join them together, you have pegs that you bang

into the ground. You should probably get a spirit level out and make sure things are sort of level and all the rest of it. This is where you and I differ because if I was doing the edging and sometimes you've seen me doing things in the garden, I can see you cringing at me because I'm just like, that'll do and you're there and you go like, P, you've not got spirit level out, there's no level, you've just gone for it. We have very different ways of doing things. We've got a very different approach and I think both approaches have their merits. Thank you for being so pro.

And I do like to be sort of methodical and build I've you know I've done it professionally so I sort of have to. But I think you know so many of these tasks in the garden you can have a go at yourself so I think diving into it and giving it a go why you know why not. Okay next question is from Sophia we've got some quick and dirty ones here Sophia how much do you talk shop as you're both in the same industry? All the time. I guess we probably did. We talk about gardens all the time, yeah. But it's a real shared passion for us. Yeah, but talking shop, like talking as in like client work,

we'll talk about it briefly, like how it's going. A little bit, but yeah. But gardening? Constant. All day, all night. Okay, next question is from Meddings Home and she says, this one's just short and simple, dogwood or cherry blossom? Pick your fighter. Hang on, choose. You choose an attribute. We choose one.

Yeah, but don't tell me. Okay. Okay, so dogwood. Cornice, for those, if we want to be fancy, or cherry blossom. So you can only have one in the garden. Don't tell me. Let me choose. Okay, I've chosen. Have you chosen? Is it locked in? Yeah. On three. One, two, three. Cherry blossom. Why can we not agree on that? Okay. All right. That's helpful, isn't it? Well, you, okay. Defend yours and then I'll defend mine. I think cherry blossom. Yes. Cherries just blossom for a very short period of time, but when they do, they just bang.

They just really go for it. What's your favourite cherry? Oh, I love Pandora. I love Taihaku. Lots of them have sort of Japanese names because obviously Japanese. Mount Fuji. Mount Fuji is great. That's white.

Yeah, it's not the same as Taihaku. I think it might be. But nothing sort of sums up that time in spring and cherry blossom to me. So you would choose gun to your head. If you could only have one, you go cherry over cornice. That's what you said to you. I stand by it. I would. Yeah. Okay. Whereas Medding's home, I'm going to say cornice. And the reason I'm going to say it is because it brings an interesting, it brings interest. I can't really say flower because it's a bract, if we're going to be geeky about it, at a time of year when all the rest of the blossom is gone.

So it flowers, bracts, May, which I love. And then I love the fruits of it, which look kind of like tiny strawberries. And then it does do some good autumn colour. And, and I, okay, I'm going to trump you here. It can handle more shade than a cherry blossom. Well, maybe that's the answer to the question. Is it sun or is it shade? Is it sun or is it shade? Yeah, because a cornice in full sun can be a bit, they can wilt. They get very sulky. Not if they're well watered. True. But for example, we were thinking about whether

to put cornice up here on the terrace, but it's south facing, it's going to get baked. I reckon it will still fry. They will absolutely fry. Yeah. So actually, whereas the cherry blossom would be totally fine, wouldn't it? Exactly. Guys, are you getting a little peek into our life here? This is literally us all the time. What should we do? Naomi says, for all the ladies at the end of our own relationships, oh my loves, I feel you. There is light at the end of the tunnel, I promise. Where do we find our own Colin? Do you have any brothers? You do actually have a single brother.

I do have a single brother, yes. He's not local. He's not local. He lives in Malaysia. We had hundreds of questions asking the same question, which is how did we meet? Colin and I have probably known of each other for what, like five years, six years? But you've been this sort of impossibly rising star in the gardening world and particularly social media, like everybody knows you. And yeah, you were sort of popped up on my radar a few years ago. Quite a few years ago, wasn't it? So we followed each other on Instagram for, I don't even

know, it was pre-COVID. Yeah, yeah. So that's at least five, six years. I remember seeing a post you did and you painted some fences gray Oh, and I thought oh, do you know what I do that too? Did you she's talking about plants popping in front of gray fences and I thought yeah, I'd like I like the cut cut of her Garment chip I made you feel validated Yes, right good

So we knew of each other but I I can honestly say, no offence, darling, you know how much I love you. You were not on my radar. As in, no, but we corresponded, didn't we? So we'd be like, that's nice paving, lovely tree. Or like, we'd send each other like a hands up emoji if one of us did a nice planting scheme or something. Sort of mutual respect of... Yeah, like professional benign correspondence for about five years. And then what was it? We'd both gone through some super fun divorces. And then it was Chelsea a couple of years ago. You put a call out for some help on your Chelsea garden a couple of years ago.

Heroines and Horticulture. And I thought, all right, well. You feel passionate about Heroines and Horticulture. Well, I do. And I thought it would be super fun. And so I sort of put my... Fled into my DNs. I did. I naturally did. Yeah. And I thought, well, it'd be nice to perhaps spend a bit of time with Polly as well. Yeah. And I mean, that was it. We'd met in person a handful of times before that, hadn't we? Not one on one at sort of industry

events. It's like, hello. And you came, so I didn't realise this, he came and sought me out to say hello at the previous Chelsea. And you came and said hi for about three minutes and I was really stressed. I had a burst blood vessel in my eye from the hay fever. I'd just got a medal, which I wasn't that pleased about. And you came and said hello. And we had about five minute minute chats and I didn't really think anything more of it, except for I got quite a few messages the next day from my fabulous friend going, I was going to come and say hi, but I didn't want to interrupt you because you were talking to someone beautiful and I was like, ah, that will have been Colin. But then didn't... But I wasn't really on your radar though. Clearly didn't leave much of an impression.

Well, I wasn't available at the time. So, you know, you didn't really, you weren't on my radar in that regard. I wasn't looking. Yeah, true. And then, yeah. So, and then it was Chelsea and you asked me out for a drink. Well, I did. Yeah, we'd been working hard. Oh, and that was it really, wasn't it? There was something in the air. In the Chelsea air. So that's our love story. Yeah. Which is quite unconventional actually. A true sort of gardening love story I guess. Thanks to Instagram and Gardens. So there we are. Gosh, that was a long story. I hope

you stuck with us. Right, got a question from Fluffy Farmer and she is asking, do you have any rose care tips that avoid chemical bug killer sprays? And the answer is yes, we do. The number one thing that I always do if I'm planting roses is nearby. I will plant a small leaf salvia. So that's not your caradoners that I talk about all the time or amistad. Small leaf ones are things like hot lips, although I don't like hot lips. Do you like hot lips? Not a fan.

Hey look, that's one that we bond over. Hot lips is the white and red one. Why is it called hot lips? It's more like a tongue than a lip, isn't it? I can see why it's named like that. So Nacklinder I really like, which is N-A-C-H-L-I-N-D-E-R, I think. I think that's like German for night something. Very dark purple, small little flower. I don't know that I get that excited about it as a plant, but it's lovely under roses because it's a natural fumigant. So

it's apparently, although I've seen lots of examples where it doesn't work, but many that have, it's meant to prevent black spot. And so I always do it in the hopes that it will. What else do you do? I think with roses, first and foremost, if they are healthy, robust plants, they will be more able to deal with pests and diseases. So starting point with roses is always feed, feed, feed.

They are super hungry plants. So lots and lots of feed, good mulch in the spring, give them a bit of water if, you know, it's very dry. So they're tough plants. So whatever comes along your black spot or your aphids, it's in a better position to deal with that. It's resilient, like my aura ring says. The way we used to deal with roses back in my early career was chemical sprays and we would absolutely nuke the plants, spraying them weekly throughout the season and very indiscriminately. Indiscriminately. Indiscriminately.

Indiscriminately. So killing all sorts of insects at the same time. We don't do that anymore. Neem oil apparently can be quite good for dealing with black spot. I'm not sure when neem oil comes through. What is neem oil? I think it's maybe it's a sort of nutty extract. You're a nutty extract. I think it's used for sort of all sorts of things. What would you put that, what, put neem oil in a, I presume in a water sprayer?

A little sprayer, yeah. Would we use a washing up liquid or is that not the one? Absolutely. Okay. Really, really works for lots of pests. If you get a big infestation, it might not work, but a little drop of washing up liquid in a spray bottle and that'll deal with some of the

sort of aphids. Without the nasties. No bug killer sprays for us. I've got a question from Cree- Green upon Green. Oh okay, Green upon Green, I love that. Is there a garden design feature that one of you loves and the other can't stand? I would say you do not love tropical planting. I do not love tropical. I love tropical planting in tropical countries. Lovely. And tropical planting is not for everybody. I love it, particularly in urban gardens. And as you know, I spent a bit of time growing up in Malaysia, so that influence of huge architectural leaves and sort of lush layering foliage, that's a look I absolutely adore.

I think it works brilliantly in urban gardens, creates loads of drama. So I love that kind of planting. That's one of your strings to your bow, isn't it? I guess I would say that my planting style is very much kind of English country. Yeah. Or it can be quite contemporary sort of grasses. Yeah. New perennialist. I can't say that. New perennialist. More chicken wine, darling. Thank you. But I probably steer away from the tropical plants. And you know my feelings on olives. Do you share that? Do you like olive trees?

I used to spec olive trees quite a lot, but it put them in quite a lot of guys. In your landscaping day? Yeah, yeah, yeah. When I was a bit, because yeah, I was probably less sort of refined. Had really good plant knowledge, but a bit less refined in my choice of plants. In fact, like loads of people still spec olive trees. It's just me being a sadist. Which is fine, but they look a bit less refined in my choice of plants. In fact, loads of people still spec olive trees, it's just me being a sadist. Which is fine, but they look a bit depressed in winter.

Yes, don't we all though? Yeah, but it's thinking, why am I here and not in Greece? Okay, I've got a question from Rachel. And this is an outy question, please. How can I stop foxes and the neighbor's cats from pooing in my garden? We moved in two years ago. The garden was a weed jungle. I'd love to try no dig in the garden to minimize bindweed, but I'm terrified of becoming the local litter tray. They already poo in the

veg patch, the borders and the lawn. I have a three year old and I hate the daily poo check. Please help. Rachel, I feel for you. Oh, it's horrible, isn't it? Yeah. I mean, you know, we love the wildlife and but yeah, we don't love the poo. No, we have a dog. Well, we don't have a dog. Well, we don't have a dog, but we have a dog next door dog likes to pop into our garden and leave a little present on the lawn for us. It's not a bloody present. God, it's really pissing me off now. It's just, but also on the no dig beds. So we've done these no dig beds at the end of the garden in this. So we've done these no dig beds at the end of the garden in this land that we're borrowing from different neighbours. And unfortunately,

every single morning there's another dog shit in it. Not what you want amongst your broad beans. No, absolutely not. So we empathise fully. So I mean, what do you do? So when I lived in central London, we had a really bad fox problem and I tried everything. I mean, I did the, those little plastic spikes that you mount on top of a fence. I did, my ex-husband used to pee outside because apparently men's wee. No, this is really common, like, isn't it? I've heard so many clients being like, oh, my husband's peeing outside. Yeah, because it's like male wee, it can't be female wee or I would have gone out there. I tried lion's poo. Oh, yes. That you could buy the garden centre. And finally, the thing that

worked was the water jet thing. So, and actually it does work with cats as well. So it might be the one that works for you. It's the one that is on a sensor attached to a hose and it sets off and it's like, it's like a sprinkler. And it's sort of lawn sprinkler, but it has a sensor on it, like a motion sensor. Yeah. I've tried all sorts of things over the years. This is the only thing that works. The downside being when you walk past it, you also get sprayed with that. But then your garden gets watered a bit. So it does work. But I think, so what we're trying to do is block the entrances as well. So if there is a fox, which is continually digging a hole, block, block how it gets in,

just make it inconvenient. Right. Same with cats. I think with cats, if there's one particular spot that they like to go and use, you can try sort of, if you've got anything prettily in the garden, you prune. So sort of rose prunings or something thorny, sort of spread those across the area. I mean, Rachel's saying it's everywhere. So it's the jet spray. I think the sprinkler is the one. Make it as inconvenient as possible. Pretty cheap and cheerful solution. It definitely works.

But you might as well try the other ones too. If you've got another half, get him to pee outside. It might work. Yeah. Give it a go. Have a wild wee. Why not? If you've got another half, get him to pee outside. It might work. Yeah. Give it a go. Have a wild wee. Why not? But seriously, we emphasize, we are quite literally cursing the neighbor's dog at the

moment as a result. Well, darling, that leaves me with one question. What is in and what is out? Oh, of course. Tell me what's in for you. This has put me on the spot in, you know what I love at the moment? Yeah. Such beautiful time of the year. I love getting up early. Yeah. Maybe not with the sunrise, but not too long after. Okay. I love them making a cup of coffee, wandering to the greenhouse

and just having my first cup of coffee of the day in the greenhouse, little water of the plants, absolute bliss. Love that. That's my inn. That would be mine, but if we both did that, is it the same? It's not the same, is it? Because if I come like, hi, then that's sort of different. You can come and join me in my greenhouse bliss hour. Maybe we'll do day on day off on that one,

or maybe I'll just sleep. Okay, so My Inn is something we've been enjoying at the moment, which is a new TV show. Obviously we loved Dying for Sex. That was iconic. So good. And now we are onto My Friends and Neighbours with Jon Hamm.

So good. Really, really good show. Love Jon Hamm. It's been great. He's a dish. You look a bit like Jon Hamm. I do not. You've got a little bit of a ham about you. Absolutely do. There's no ham in me. Great show. So that's what we're currently binging as a couple on Netflix and chill, except you think it's on Apple TV. And out, out for me, I'm actually going

to lodge a formal complaint. Out is not the bins because you forgot to take them out on Friday. Oh God, the shame. The classic 7am hearing of the bin men. Colin's job, like one of Colin's many jobs. You have a lot, don't you? But we don't have pink and blue jobs in this house. They're just, they're all sort of purple. Colin does the bins. Of course. And your track record hasn't been great recently. I think we're going to need to set up some sort of...

No, I know. I mean, to be fair, you do literally everything else in the house. So this is outrageous. I'm calling you on this. It's so hard. I know. It can't be just me. It's so hard to remember the bins sometimes. I think if you don't get, you know, you don't do it when you get home from work, whatever, if you think I will do it later, it will not be done. There needs to be a system. I think we need a bin siren. I forget too, to be fair. I never remind you. Yes. Who needs a burger alarm? We need a bin alarm. And that just leads me

to say, don't forget to like, to subscribe, to share with your friends, to share with your people that are curious about Mr. Big now that he's been revealed. Now you've heard his voice. You've got it. Now you've heard his voice. And our darling girl Jojo will be back with us very soon, so thank you for bearing with us. And we love you very much. See you soon.