The Ins & Outs - Softening Big Spaces & Plant Combinations

Episode Date: February 25, 2025

On this week's episode we discuss ways in which you can soften big spaces and give you some great ideas on plant combinations.Plus we cover wood floors, lady gardens and cat houses!!!!This week's episode is brought to you by Best Heating! Whether you're planning a renovation or searching for your perfect piece, Best Heating got you covered. Make sure you check them out at https://www.bestheating.com/ and us the code INSANDOUTS15 at checkout to get a MASSIVE 15% DISCOUNT.Best Heating discount Terms & Conditions•⁠ ⁠£500 minimum spend•⁠ ⁠Single use only•⁠ ⁠Valid until 28/02/2025•⁠ ⁠Works on sale items too! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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occur guarantee requires played by at least one customer until jackpot is awarded or 11pm eastern research and supply seen full terms at canada.casino.fando.com please play responsibly. Hello Innes and Outies and welcome back to this brand new episode of the Inns and Outs with myself Jojo and my pal Pollyanna Wilkinson. This week we're talking half term, holidaying with kids, wood floors, softening big spaces, plant combinations, big pots, cat houses, lady gardens and why I can't pull off a bonnet and a nightie. And this week we are sponsored again by our lovely friends at Best Heating Now. If you're planning a renovation or searching for your perfect piece, Best Heating have got you covered. I'm going to be, Best Heating have got you covered. I'm gonna be using

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do make the most beautiful radiators. So thank you. Let's jump on in. Hello, sweetness. Hello, sweetness. Have you survived half term? Yes, I think it's best that any of us really can survive half term. It was it was absolute chaos juggling. But the thing is, the older they get, the more I want to be with, like want to really spend time with them. So I had a bit of time with and say excited a couple of little bits and bobs where I could yeah I'm just yeah, I'm still I still have not never I haven't quite mastered the art of Cutting shutting one thing off and then doing another I'm not but not best at that

It always comes around so quick as well doesn't it? Just like next time you want to give one your undivided attention but you want to give your kids your undivided attention but if it's in the middle of a workday it's so hard sometimes to be like no I'm not gonna look at that me-mail I know my phone's ringing off the hook but I'm no not gonna check it. What did you get up to my love? Kids were in football camp for most of it because life doesn't stop and it was my little one's birthday as well so that was lovely. Which one? The small one. Oh Raffi. I know we're nearly both in double figures for both of them that

makes me feel very strange. So how old's Raffi now? Eight? Nine. Nine. Oh my baby. So yes that was that was that and now we're we're back to it and like it's bright in the morning now. Do you notice? What time does your alarm go off? Well, I do that thing. I set it for 6.30 but 6.37, occasionally I might just be like, I'll sod that and I'll get out of bed in 20 minutes, quarter past seven. Depends, anywhere between 6.30 and 7.30.

Paul, what sort of mum are you? Pardon? What sort of mum are you? What sort of mummy are you? Oh, what do you like as a mum? I'm very cuddly, but I'm not a player. Are you? I'm like big on the cuddles. I'm a love bombing cuddle mummy, but you will not get me playing like football outside or something. I just I'm not that mom. Are you patient? Am I patient? Let's ask Colin. Are you patient? Am I patient with my children? He's looking scared at me. I think that's a no.

Oh. I can't actually imagine you being particularly patient. Nothing like feedback from your other half on your parenting. I'm probably not very patient, but I love them more than anything in the world. I would do anything for them apart from playing board games and football. Or football. Yeah. How about you? I surprised myself as a mother actually, because I thought I would be not very patient

I thought Brad would be the really patient one, but it's completely the other way around. I'm actually very patient I'm like you. I'm not very good at playing if it's artwork I'll sit and do like coloring I could sit and give me a craft any day of the week Unfortunately, my children don't care about crafts. So that's dead because I'm nothing like should we do should we do some coloring? How about no? How's that no mom? Yeah Cause I'm there thinking like, should we do some coloring? How about no? How about no? How's that no, mum? Yeah.

What was that thing you were trying to show me the other day, the heart thing that kids do? This is bugging me so much. So apparently, I don't know why they have to make it hard for themselves, but you know, for us, if you want to do like a heart in a picture, you just do your thumbs together and then the rest of your fingers, like, little, like a heart.

That is easily done. Why do the new generations need to take like I still haven't figured it out it's like your your index fingers go down and join and then your middle finger that you swear with then has to like claw over oh and make a heart and then I don't know what you're meant to do with the rest of your fingers but it's okay they can do it in seconds and I still can't do it. It looks like you've got like claw mitts. I can't do it. I don't know how- It does.

They just have to do something different even if it's harder. So- Well, it's innovation, isn't it? You know, innovation. That's it. It's innovating. I mustn't crush the innovation of the younger gents.

So- No. Speaking of hearts, can I totally digress? Always. Have you ever heard of the younger gents. So, um, no speaking of hearts. Yeah, can I totally digress? Oh, I've heard of the Lady Garden Foundation No, I feel like I should have done. Oh, I love charities like this I'm all about looking after you know our bits and bobs and us girls looking out for each other So I know we talked about feeling our feeling feeling up the boobies. Yeah, so there was the booby check and we sort of we made our

ines and ates aware of that but the Lady Garden Foundation, you can check your vulva if you want to, but the Lady Garden Foundation is all about looking after your own Lady Garden and understanding what's normal for you and to make sure you keep it in tip-top condition. Okay so what should we be doing? So not only helps reduce our risk of vulva cancer, but also optimises our vulva, vulva and vaginal health. Cause over the years they change down there. You know, everything, it changes.

Can I just jump on this quickly? Cause change. Yeah. I saw a TikTok that said that you lose your, one of your labia when you hit menopause. What? I, this must, I hope this is a lie. What? Your lab this is a lie.

Hold on. Not one of them, not one side and not the other. Because there's menorah and majorah aren't they? And apparently they like shrink. What? Well, okay. That might not be true guys. I know we lose the elasticity.

I know the elasticity goes down there, doesn't it? No, but apparently they like full on labial shrinkage. Really? Okay. I don't want to be spreading misinformation there, guys. So take that with a big pinch of salt. Well, okay, so I'm going to digest it. Yeah, sorry, sorry. Let's go back.

Sorry, because this is important. Can you please, all my lady friends out there, go and look at the Lady Garden Foundation. It's all about revolutionising and also normalising us talking about your vagina, your vulva, you're like using those words and, you know, looking out for each other and being like, are you alright down there? Is everything okay? And making it normal and okay to talk about it. Don't be shy.

Don't be afraid. So just like have a cup of tea with a pal and be like, how's the vulva? Check it in. Yeah, how's it? Just talk about it. Don't be shy. Don't be afraid. So just have a cup of tea with a pal and be like, how's the vulva? Check it in. Yeah, how's it? Just talk about it. Are there any things we should be doing? Like when you check your boobies, should we be doing something with our vulval health? I think they've got an awareness. They have like an awareness campaign. I'm just checking them out now. Let's see if there's any tips. Have a little look. Lady Garden foundation.

OK, oh, because they're showing like, no, the symptoms of the five gynae cancers. Yes, all about, yeah, look at that. All the things that you should be. Abnormal bleeding, pain or discomfort. A lasting itch, pain or soreness, a lump swelling on the vulva, burning pain when you pass urine. Girls, keep an eye on your lady gardens and your lady bits.

Yes, please do. They are important, very important. Go check it out, because actually, no, that's not talked about enough, is it? It's all terribly taboo, and it doesn't need to be. No. All right, that's this week's awareness, I love it. We'll just work our way through the body, shall we, pal?

We've done tits and vag. Tits and vag and all sorts of bits and bobs. What will be next week? We could talk penises next week. Bit of prostate, why not? Prostate cancer, yeah, prostate's important. My dad had prostate cancer, he had a prostatectomy, so please, if you're unusual, all of that, guys, just-

Well, let's save that for next week. Yeah, save that. Let's save penises for next week. Give me a bit of a catch up on life and anything fun to tell me? Yeah, well, the really fun thing, the really fun thing is the garden is being built at the moment. Which is so exciting obviously we designed it way back when you know when we did the house because

that's what you should do. So now the terrace the paved area the patio what whatever you want to call it immediately outside the house we're building that at the moment which is really exciting so that will be sort of ready for when the weather gets nicer. Do you find designing your own garden, do you get sort of like paralysis of decision? Because you're like, oh my God, like there's almost that you want to do everything and you want to, do you find it quite difficult? Because I couldn't design my house without my team. I needed my team.

So I sort of did the scribble, said to them, I was like, I'm not sure about doing this. It feels, because I want it to be so perfect and right. And then I'm second guessing myself going, is this the right decision? And I really want it to be classic and timeless. And I don't want it to sort of shout. I just want it to be sort of low-key and work for us and I don't

have a really long sort of wish list of what's going on so it's just want to get it right. I mean it's gonna be fabulous let's be honest. We're just waiting on the stone now and it's gonna go in and then I get to do the plant plans which I cannot wait for because I love a plant plan more than anything. That's so exciting I enjoyed seeing your trees you've got some lovely big and I know what they call the white, the white, they're beautiful. They're the ones that smell like semen my friend. Oh fantastic. Yeah. Delicious. But it's worth it. So we've got three Pyrus Chanticlea, which is ornamental pear, and they have the most amazing blossom, but they do smell like semen. One they're in blossom, but that's the price you pay for beauty.

How often is that? Well, only in spring. You know, it's like a few weeks. It's not like I'm out there sniffing the air. Is it really like, is it very semeny? Yeah. Is it? Well, some people don't notice it.

Well, I'll let you know, I've never had one in my garden before. So we've put them in and then I've got a really beautiful Prunus cerule, which is like a coppery, another one I've talked about here quite a lot, lovely coppery bark, which I've put in one corner. And then I've also got a Circis siliquastrum, Judas tree, which is like a heart, sort of almost like a heart-shaped leaf,

and then a beautiful pink flower on the stem in sort of late spring. It's banging. I love it. It's so nice. But again, the trees were like picking sweets in a candy shop. I was like, how can I possibly choose?

I need all of them, which is not good design. So yeah. I cannot wait to see what you do. I can't wait to show it. I can't wait to show it. I can't wait to show it. Anyway, you're lucky. Your your neighbors, I just think it's so funny. They're going to be looking out of their bedroom windows down at your garden thinking, fuck. Well, I mean, it still has to have a football pitch. So, you know, I still got to do it. Yeah, it really does. Well, the kids would just be on a screen 24-7. Yeah, yeah I feel you.

But so anyway that's my news. You've gone on for far too long about that. That's my news. We all love hearing about it. It's fun if we've been on the journey with you so it's been really fun. But you know what I think we should just power through some questions for our innings and outties because we've got so many to get through. I've got one for you Jojo.

I'm really curious about this one. This is from soppers woodwork What is the best place for a striped wallpaper? Oh, do you think she'll apply or do you think she means room? I don't know but I will talk about strike wallpapers because this is a really really Really important thing when choosing a strike wallpaper. They're very in fashion at the moment. Aren't they a stripy paper? I just think the stripes will never go out of fashion. Sure. I just think stripes are timeless.

Okay. But what I will say, if you're putting stripes, stripes wallpaper, striped wallpaper in a room, be very, very careful because they make you go dizzy, dizzy, dizzy. If you, if you, you have to put artwork or something on it because it will to break it up Those your eyes go like have you ever ironed a stripey shirt? Yes, you iron a stripey shirt. What's that noise by the way?

Oh apologies. That is a Neighbors leaf blower. Nothing I can do about that same time every week. That is very noisy. Sorry everyone about Polly's neighbors leaf blower without fail every Friday. But just do think about stripes, about how close together they are. So why stripes? You're not going to have such a problem. But when they're little tiny stripes together, they make you go really dizzy. So if it's, say, in a small cloakroom or anything,

your eyes do that sort of funny magic, I think, with stripes. Yeah. So just be careful. But so I love stripes. I'm a bit of an up and all over. I love stripes that sort of go up the wall across. In our newlywed project, we're putting them in a top bedroom, in an eaves room, and we're running them across the ceiling,

down the walls, up the eaves. We're doing something quite wild with them, which I think looks great. That sounds like a complicated job for the wallpaperer. Yeah. Can you wallpaper? Have you ever tried? Which I think looks great. That sounds like a complicated job for the wallpaper. Yeah Can you wallpaper have you ever tried? Absolutely. Now, do you know what's one thing I've never done? I've done tiling I've done I've done all sorts of random bits laid my own vinyl floor in my first flat and

Painted Dundee do rails all that stuff. I just think other people can do it I'm gonna do it so much better than me and I don't have the time. And my love, just in case you meant actually where do you find a stripey wallpaper? Have you got a nice brand of wallpaper you like, stripeys? I, oh there's quite a few. For suppliers of stripe wallpaper you could have a look at Sandberg. They do some beautiful ones and also don't think with a stripe that it just has to be a vertical stripe. It could have a little wave or something so it could still be stripes. We don't have little wiggles. Jane Clayton, Mrs. Alice does one that I absolutely love.

Oh, pure edits, pure edit. She's off. Go and check out her stuff. Really lovely stuff. You had it. There's absolutely loads. Sorry. Probably this.

There are so many Ralph Lauren Farren Ball even do one. That's a good list. Colen's son. Yeah, that's loads. You got loads there, guys. I've got wallpaper anxiety because I need to pick it for my downstairs loop, but I want it to be botanical and jazzy,

but not ritzy. That's quite a hard find. Have we gone off the idea of the snakes? I still do quite like the idea of the snakes. I just haven't found the right one yet. I find it's a really funny thing because I always say you can have fun in the downstairs Lou. Any room in the house you can go wild.

It's in a downstairs Lou. But I really believe that unless you're doing something like a stripe, of course, or something a bit more sort of plain and subdued, wallpaper is like art. It's extremely subjective. Yes. So with clients with wallpaper, we don't just go, here you go, very rarely do they go, oh, I love that. They're like, oh, not sure, you know.

So we lay out loads and see what they go for. We usually give them a whole selection and they might go for something that I would never have thought they would. No. I keep oscillating though, pal, because on the one hand, I want it to be this really chic, botanical, lovely, sort of just something like,

there's some very cute ones which are just like ivy or just strawberries or just, you know, just sort of cute and chic. And on the other hand, I want it to be slightly offensive and like, flowers! I think you're gonna say something else. No, no, no, just, but you know, I sort of oscillate between very calming, Scandi plant wallpaper and like

in your face plants. And I can't quite land on it. So until I do, I'm just going to... Or snakes. Or snakes. But I mean, snakes have no context. I think snakes is probably a no. I think that's not going gonna work for you, but... 11 p.m. every day. 19 plus and physically located in Ontario. Gambling problem, call 1-866-531-2600

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go well together? Which plants go well together? Yes. Well, give us a little maybe a sort of what do you think a three? Firstly, you could buy my book which has lists of plants that go well together Just saying or look 17 pounds guys. Come on. If you haven't bought it. I'm actually like questioning why Absolutely brilliant Although there's one guy. Okay, so that the Amazon reviews have been amazing, but there's one one guy Tom He's put his name on there. There's always name name of shame, who went, there's only three planting plans in it. And that gave me a one star review as a result. Now, I just want to defend myself here, because actually, I'm just going to throw it out there. I don't actually believe that Tom is, I think Tom is probably either a past lover or somebody

that you've jilted or somebody in the industry. I mean they did it on day one of the book coming out so they didn't hold back did they? You don't give someone a one out of five. So Tom, whoever you are, you little troll, I'll take you one review and we know what to do with it. You'd pop it up there. We shouldn't be giving him any time. But the whole chapter on plants is all about, I list I list all the plants that are like lovely for spring, lovely for autumn, winter, and I do recipes and then I show three examples of plant plans, which is almost unheard of. You will not find planting plans in garden books, I guess maybe because

it's doing people out of a job, but there's one for sun, one for shade, one for part shade, but clearly Tom was hoping for an entire book of planting plans, which does not exist and I doubt ever will. But anyway, I digress. Sorry, that doesn't answer your question at all. So how can you tell what plants go together? First of all, you're going to think about color. So think about your color scheme. We've talked about this before. So do you want a complementary scheme? So things like orange and purple or yellow and blue, or do you want, and I can never say this word analogous which is when the colors are all quite similar on the color wheel so for example pink and purple together or blues and greens or

yellows and oranges so think about your color scheme that's going to instantly make sure they go together then you need to think about texture so you don't want for example all shiny leafed plants or you don't want, for example, all shiny leafed plants, or you don't want all fluff, because that will look weird. It's too much of one thing. You need a mix. So you want kind of a fluffy plant. So something like, I don't know, let's say a fern or a grass, I would call a fluffy plant. But and then you want something which is maybe a bit smoother or a bit more moundy. So shape and form, you're thinking I want something, in fact, as a little recipe for you. You can't go wrong with a mound. So something which makes sort

of a, oh, Jojo, what would you call it? Like an upside down, why can't I think of the word? Perimenopause, the dome. The dome. So something like a geranium rosanne or a yew ball or a nepeta, I would call that a dome. And then you want a fan, so something that's like an upside down triangle, and that could be a fern or a grass. And then you want some froth, and that's your fluffiness. So that could be something like Thalictrum, which is a really great shade plant, or something sort of fizzy, so Amimages, so more like an umbel. So if you mix up your forms and your textures, then that goes really well together. And then obviously you need to look at your soil type and the sun,

and that's going to tell you something too. So they all need to be sun lovers or shade lovers, depending on what you're doing, and they all need to be okay with the soil you're looking at. And then finally, remember your seasons. So don't just pick things that are all in flower, all at the same time in July, but maybe try and find some things which have a longer season of interest. So like classic combos would be like a geranium with a salvia with an alchemical mollusk. Those three are kind of really long season of interest, interesting in a summer border. But then remember to repeat them down your border. So we don't just want them in ones, we want them in groups and then

you're going to repeat them. And that's how the combination, so it's not so much just going, oh, how do these go together? It's actually, are they seasonal? Is it different textures? Do the colours work together? Is there enough at different seasons? So it is, I guess that's quite complicated. You should buy the book, it explains it in more detail. But I hope that helps a little bit. That was a good... Sorry. That was really helpful. Long answer.

No, don't apologize. It's an art and a science. It's an art and a science. That's designed for you, isn't it? Back indoors. Back indoors. I've got a question from Zoe. I have an irregular shaped house. Should I go with herringbone or several transitions for a new wood floor?

Oh, interesting, so not like a standard rectangle. Ooh, what's she gonna say? So I had an expert call the other day and I had exactly this, where you come in your front door and you've got your hallway and your stairs in front of you. And then there was down the corridor, there's an angled wall with the door that goes into the living room.

And therefore the living room and the hallway have a sort of angle, if you like. Oh, tricky. So, no, so this is where it's brilliant to use things like herringbone, because obviously you can create angles and your eye line then goes along with the threshold. So if you just sort of went straight boards,

straight boards, straight boards, straight boards, straight boards, straight boards, you're having to cut across a straight board on an angle. So it's really nice actually to introduce a variation in flooring. So if for instance in the hallway you had your checkerboard tiles that were laid on an angle, therefore with the points facing forward. If you then go into a room that is an irregular shape because it's got that sort of angle in itself, if you then have herringbone in there with a threshold of a nice plank between, when if you then go into another room that's say then straight walls, that's the perfect place to then put straight boards. So you've then got create variation in

rooms, do not feel, honestly wood floor you can use the same wood floor color type but it could be you could go from herringbone, you could go to straight, you can have borders around the room so even if it's two rooms that are connected and one's got a sort of wonky wall and the other straight just divide the room up with a lovely herringbone with a threshold border and have herringbone in one room and then have a straight in the other. Absolutely mix the boards up. But herringbone or chevron will help create your sort of give context to a sort of wonky wall. Which I really like. I think it's great.

Good tip. Yeah. Oh, I've got a quick one that's making me laugh. Jojo, this is from Gizmos Gaff. Do you have any tips on maintaining a cat home, Jojo? Do I just embrace the hair everywhere? Oh, God. I feel you, my love. As we speak speak I'm looking at Clarence curled up, he's a lovely grey cat and he's curled up on my velvet, red sort of rusty velvet sofa and he leaves a little pile of hair. There ain't really a lot you can do with it. Oh gosh, do you know what I have got? It's a roller. Oh my god, I wonder if I've got it somewhere. I'm actually going

to show you. Look at this thing. Look at this gadget, which we will share on On the stories comes. You can't see this. This is a podcast. There you go. What she's carrying a roll It looks like a paint roller. I'm gonna try and find the name of it. Is it got cat ears on it? It's got little cats. Can you see? Yes, I can. It's a roller. So it's got this sort of Pad and you roll it on your furniture and it collects up all the fur. Is it sticky or is it like that? No, it's like sort of a sort of Velcro-y.

Like a sort of reverse pile thing that we push against it. Oh my gosh, it's so good. I mean this one says it's ace to ace and it's got little cat ears and I think I got it on Amazon. It's really good and then you can empty it out there. Oh it gathers it. Okay so it's like a hair ray gathers it and then you empty it. Yeah. Like a Manuel Dyson. Listen I mean unless you've got a bald cat you know you could get a shave one of those bald

cats like the what's what film what's that in he's straight. Oh yes Austin Powers. Austin Powers. You're gonna have cat hair. Those bald cats freak the what's what film what's that in he's straight oh yes Austin Powers Austin Powers you're gonna have cats they do they do shed do they scratch your furniture as well oh my god they fucking trash my house my house is absolutely trashed this seat that the chair that I'm sitting in Brad sent me a picture yesterday of a cat shit on one side and a puke on the other so one corner had a puke and one had sick And I was like that's fantastic, and he's tried to wash it of course It's now got two ring marks around it nothing in my house having kids and cats looks

Good, okay, so I'm not gonna sit here and be like oh my god. You just have to do this no no cats ruin Everything is fucked my house is ruined. I've got scribbles on every bit of furniture. There's cat claws and everything. I can barely sit in your house. It makes me so allergic. I have to take like two anti-histories. You start sneezing. Your throat literally swirls up as soon as you walk in. I'd say, look, it's a very clean house, but the cats, obviously cats are cats, right? So we tend to try and keep the cats out of the house, out from going upstairs. How do you out from going upstairs. How do you stop them going upstairs? We close the door every night.

They just don't tend to come upstairs because they know they can't really. So occasionally they creep into the living room. But apart from that, we don't really let them upstairs. So embrace the chaos if you have cats, I think is the answer. Just embrace. You've just got to accept, you can't have a child and expect your house to look lovely.

I'm sorry. It just isn't going to work, you're going to stress yourself out senseless. Just, you know, embrace the fact that it's going to be chaotic, it's going to be messy. When they move out, you'll probably be crying into your, you know, perfect sofa, wishing that they were there drawing on things and clawing at stuff. So I don't really care. Okay, fine. I've decided.

Good. Okay one for you my darling this is by Stripe Street. Hello can Polly please advise on how to soften a huge rectangle of patio terrace. Ah that old mistake. Yeah okay. Lots and lots and lots and lots of little pops. How dare you? How dare you? Okay, well, let's go from the most extensive to the least. So what we would do if you're willing to do some hardscaping, I don't know if you are, if you've got a really big area of hardscape that's sort of big format pavers, we'll often break it up by putting small formats, say through the middle or as a rug underneath a dining table or something. But anything, just mix up the formats so that

if you haven't done this yet and you're about to, then please consider mixing up your formats. Just like you do inside, you don't have all massive paving inside. You might have sort of smaller format herring bones and things. Think about doing that outside. But let's assume that actually it's done and you're not going to pull any of up and change it. Then in which case, what we always do, if we come into a garden where someone's already done that for some reason and there's absolutely no reason for us to be changing it, we bring plants in. And that can be, so once we had a project with an enormous space, it must have been about 20 meters long and about six meters deep, which is a vast patio.

That's like width of the entire house probably the depth of the entire house and so there what we did was bring in some really big pots and put trees in them and then smaller pots and by small pots I still mean actually a really big pot just not as big as the biggest one next to it. What is your definition at what's your definition? Okay so the big pot was probably about a meter and a half wide it was like the size of a hot tub. What? this is a massive terrace palette could take it And a meter and a half wide pot. Yeah, I actually

Yeah, I did get into it Carefully, how do you move that guy with machinery and a crane? How do you fit? The amount of soil you must need? Yeah but if you're doing a big pot like that you wouldn't necessarily, depending on what you're putting it, fill it full of soil completely. It depends and you certainly wouldn't if it was on a roof terrace, my god. Anyway and and then we went smaller ones so we had the kind of 1.5 ish, 1.3, 1.5 ish and then we had ones which were like 90 wide and 90 tall so So they're still big, still chunky.

But you probably- Are they really expensive? Yes, but big pots are. I just- Are we talking like- There's no such thing as a cheap big pot. They don't exist. It's a massive gap in the market. One day I'll figure out how to make them.

So we've got that, but assuming you don't need them quite so large, the rule still applies. You could go for like a big pot, i.e. like 90 centimeters or 80 centimeters wide and tall and then two small like narrower ones of a similar height. So then sort of like 60 wide and 80 tall. So threes, which looks really nice. And you could whack in sort of a small shrub and then two other smaller shrubs or grasses. Or you can do do troughs and this is something we really

like to do we do this on roof terraces if you want to divide a space because roof terraces are sort of naturally just one big area and you can't plant in a roof terrace obviously you have to do it in planters so you could do some really nice troughs which kind of divide the space so that it's a living room sort of space with sofas and then maybe a dining space or you could make it that there was sort of a path down the middle and have raised troughs on each side. And again, when I'm talking troughs,

I'm talking like waist high. So I'm not talking down 20 centimeter sad little troughs. It needs to be waist high for it to feel immersive and then fill it with plants. So you've got plants at kind of chest level. And that is essentially making walls in your outdoor room. And that's a really nice way of softening a big terrace. And then the other cardinal sin,

which we're always trying to prevent is like paving that goes straight up to fences. So if it goes straight up to a fence or a wall, then bring in troughs, either pop up paving if you can and plant in the ground, that's always my preferred option, or troughs along the boundaries as well. And then when your paving ends, get loads of planting in where the paving ends, it's going to tumble over. So operation, bring plants, soften, soften. Amazing. Have you ever been to pots and potoi? Yes, lovely terracotta style pots, dreamy, good water features too.

Go and check out, they're like thesethrown terracotta pots of all different ages and styles and Gorgeous they've got a they've got a really nice coffee shop actually so for anyone that's in sus sus sus six crawly. Where's crawly? I never know if that's Kent or Sussex. It's sort of near the border of isn't it? Crawly anyway, it is so it's such a beautiful it's just a beautiful even just a day out to go and check out these pots they're stunning and all different sizes and shapes and it's just I just love terracotta as you know but. Pros and cons to terracotta that's the only thing they can crack in winter if you don't look after them. So that's we I love them we use their water features a

lot and beautiful it's just with terracotta you've got to make sure that you lift them and you protect them in the winter because they do. I'm staring out at a non-brand name terracotta pot that I have now and it has shattered in the frosts which is a shame. Has it? Yep. Right, okay. Not a Pots and Pithoey one I'd like to add. Anyway, um... FanDuel Casino Daily Jackpots. Guaranteed to hit by 11pm with your chance at the number one feeling. Winning. Which beats even the 27th best feeling, saying I do.

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starting at $19 per month at ZenSurance.com. Be protected, be Zen. Right. I think that's enough it's quite enough my darling that is enough so that leads us to ask of each other what is in and what is out my love what is in this week? Jojo I'm so glad you asked I've wanted to talk to you about this for a while. Suede loafers. Oh right. There's a pair of Marks and Spencers. I'm trying to get my head around what they look like. They look like a Cornish pasty made of suede. Sexy.

You know what I mean, like a loafer. But the the bits, you know, the sort of raised bit in a loafer is looks like a pinched Cornish pasty. The bit that goes around around like pinch, pinch, pinchy, pinchy. Like a boat shoe. Thank you. Like a suede boat shoe. And Marks and Spencers keep selling out. It's very frustrating to Do such a nice pair.

Very affordable in like a brown, cause you know my feelings on brown. So for me in suede loafers, although, when do you wear a suede loafers? Cause this weather is not the one. It's not the one. Can we just, I cannot, can we, I'll tell you what's in for me. And it's going to be, I know it's going to be really obvious and really boring. It's daffodils. I'm telling you what's out, I'll tell you what's out right now,

pal is that fucking leaf blower. I'm sorry. That leaf blower. Everyone's gonna have to listen to this for 40 minutes. Yep. I think the leaf blower's out. I think leaf blowers, somebody should design a leaf blower that doesn't make a noise because they are the most annoying thing in the world. What's more fun is the leaf blower that's at 8 a.m. every Wednesday morning. So I know the timings are all my neighbor's leaf blowers. Who does that? Who does that? Yeah, I don't think 8 a.m. is cool.

At least it's not Sunday morning to be fair. Anyway, sorry, I cut over you. What was your in? My in is daffodils. There's just, it's a sign that they're fully popped up now. They are out and about in the garden. They are like, hey guys, hi. They're such joy bringers aren't they? They are such joy bringers because everything else is brown. So you've just got this just, everything's brown and then it's just bright little yellow ray of like hope. Hope. A little bit of hope. I just love da. So in is the dafts.

I just love dafts. Oh, I love a daft. I mean, tulips don't get me going, but dafts for now are the one for me. I have got a question. I've got a query over in and out that was brought to us actually. And that is the, I think it's called a schnude.

It's like a, so it's quite, why it's- Like a bonnet. It's like a bonnet it's quite, um, why it's a bonnet. It's like a, like a bonnet. That's it. It's a sort of knitted bonnet. So have you, have you seen these? So when it's down, it looks like a shnude, but you pull it up over your head and it, and it creates a little sort of bonnet. I was in a shop the other day and I was like, I'm never going to shops. I never shop actually. I'm not a shopper. And I walked into this shop the other day and I was like, I'm never going to shops. I never shop actually, I'm not a shopper. And I walked into this shop and I saw one sitting there and I thought, do you know, I'm going to try that on because I really love the idea of them.

Did you look like Heidi? It looked fucking ridiculous on me. I actually, you know when you're really embarrassed because you're standing in front of a mirror and there's people wanting to see what the thing looks like on you because obviously if you put anything on in a mirror in a shop people look at you don't they? Yes, always. And I put this, I went to put it up and I was like oh my god I took it off and I just like scuttled out because it was just it looked I don't know the sort of people that can pull those things

off it is not me. They're lovely aren't they? I'm not that young. The fashion set are wearing them aren't they? Like a bright red knitted little and it ties under the chin and they look adorable. What's that maid's tail that sort of you know? Handmaid's tail. Handmaid's tail, it's quite like that, isn't it? And some people are just so cool and they can wear really cool stuff and wear little kind of ballet loafers and all these little cool things.

I just, it just doesn't suit me. I'm just not that kind of girl. I'm a big girl. Do you think you'd feel like you were walking along going, here she comes in her bonnet? I just think I'm such a, I'm a big person. I'm a really big person. I'm a huge girl. I'm a massive giant. And if I walk her along wearing anything that's slightly twee, I bought

these beautiful little sort of slightly Victorian cotton night dresses for the girls and they look so sweet in them. And the advert was for, I don't know if you know it's Fawn. And the ad was basically the mum was wearing one and then the two little girls were wearing one. I was like, oh my God, this is just, I'm all in for this. I got all three. They were on sale and they arrived and I put them on the girls. I was like, oh my God, you're gorgeous. And then I put mine on and I was like, Brad just looks at me and he's like, absolutely not. So I was like, so I'm not going to get it then in this. It's this sort of you know plume like the sort of plumey arms and the little and the neckline. Do you think it's a size thing and if you're like short and elfin you can pull these things off?

Unless you're really skinny, unless you're like a sort of a supermod, I'm just like a big girl. No. It just doesn't look it doesn't look I will take I mean if you'd like I could take would you actually share it we all need to see that okay I'll say I feel the same I'd feel if it's too girly I feel like a right prick I want to I so want to look at me sitting here in a massive oversized hoodie this is sort of my vibe as much as I want to be that kind of beautiful frilly necked kind of person it just doesn't suit me. I'm sure there's a word isn't there some sort

of rule where you've got three words to describe your style and it's either like masculine, tailored and soft or I'm gonna look this up there's something I'll bring it back next week. Let's do that next week. Yeah yeah there's all sorts of descriptions and I wonder if ours are quite similar. Alright well that leaves me to say don't forget to like, subscribe, share and review. We love you guys. Big kiss, love you all. Bye! Fandu Casino Daily Jackpots, guaranteed to hit by 11 p.m. with your chance at the number one feeling, winning, which beats even the 27th best feeling, saying I do. Who wants this last parachute? I do.

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