The Ins & Outs - Summer Planting & Blind Masterclass

Episode Date: May 14, 2024

This week Jojo delivers a masterclass on blinds in the bedroom and tells us all about her edging endeavours with her husband.Polly saves Fisher the fish from his impending doom and educates us on plan...ts for summer interest.Plus, we discus how best to deal with slugs!This episode is sponsored by Niwaki, purveyors of the finest Japanese garden tools and accessories this side of Mt. Fuji. From hand-finished carbon steel secateurs to the best-selling Hori Hori wonder-weeder, Niwaki’s tools combine utility and style to make gardening even more of a pleasure. Click the link to visit their website and see the whole range of great stuff from Japan - www.niwaki.com.Get 10% off by using the details below:Discount: INSANDOUTS10 URL: https://www.niwaki.com/INSANDOUTS10InstagramPodcast - @the_insandouts_Jojo - @houseninedesignPolly - @pollyanna_wilkinsonProducer Andy - @andy_rowe_WebsitesJojo - https://www.housenine.co.uk/Polly - https://www.pollyannawilkinson.com/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:01:18 So no matter your era, make it your best with Peloton. Find your push. Find your power. Peloton. Visit Peloton at onepeloton.ca. Hello Inns and Outs and welcome to this episode of the Inns and Outs with myself Jojo Barr and the very lovely Pollyanna Wilkinson. And I am so excited, you can tell in my voice, to say that we are sponsored this week by Niwaki and if you don't know who Niwaki are, I'm completely obsessed with them. They are the purveyors of the finest Japanese garden tools. And over the next few weeks, we're going to talk to you about some of my favourites.
Starting point is 00:02:07 And we're going to introduce Jojo to them as well as she gets further into her gardening journey. So thank you so much, Niwaki, for sponsoring us. And in these analyses, they have very kindly given us a 10% off code, which is INSANDOUT10 on the Niwaki website. So on this week's episode we're talking edging both in and out the resurrection of fisher plants for summer interest my masterclass in kids bedrooms blinds and polly's war on slugs hello my darling how are you i'm very well how are you? I'm very well, how are you? What's been going on?
Starting point is 00:02:48 I've actually just got back from a brilliant meeting in London. Weirdly, I think I said really recently on the podcast how much I wanted a new London project. And we've got one in fabulous Islington. And it's one of those typical, beautiful Islington townhouses on a square a square it's beautiful so that's really fun so i'm really chuffed about that and we've just been i've we've just been mental in the studio and we've had like i can't tell you how many proposals we've got going on at the moment it's just been very admin heavy which as you know pal know, pal, is a very, very large portion of our job. 97% of it.
Starting point is 00:03:29 97% is admin. What do you do on the bank holes? The bank holes, we hung out at home, did some gardening. You'll be pleased to know. I'm actually quite proud of myself, Paul, because the... Tell me. My... And this is where I'm learning.
Starting point is 00:03:43 I'm learning just as much as you guys are outies but i've got this really long flower bed like really really really big beds across the front of the house as you know paul and they the last couple of years have just been so tatty and i made a real effort of weeding the beds but during the winter months they just didn't look like a lot and now suddenly it's all the kind of bedding plants are taking shape and I'm like oh my god I did this I can't believe it and it's actually looking really nice I have to tell you I saw this tutorial on Instagram about this guy that was like edging edging and I'll tell you what sorry it was it was it was he was edging and i tell you it was it was quite horny to watch i've got to tell you
Starting point is 00:04:33 kind of turned me on a bit dude that could be misconstrued do you know what edging is oh god is it a sexual thing what's edging oh god what, what is it? Tell me. Shall I look it up? Apparently that's quite good for sperm quality, apparently. It says edging. Edging, sometimes also referred to as gooning or surfing. It's a sexual technique whereby an orgasm is controlled. It is practiced alone or with a partner.
Starting point is 00:05:13 So you kind of get to the brink and then you stop. really works for me that maybe i'm just too impatient anyway digressing away from edging your sexual antics uh this was edging of the lawn edging of the flower bed and he was using all these sort of tools and then he was snipping and snipping and snipping it oh my goodness it was quite it was quite something really appealing and I sent it to Brad who as you know is not exactly a dab hand at DIY and garden stuff and even he was like I'm going to the garden center I'm gonna go and get those things so we're gonna we're tonight this is our date night tonight he messaged me Brad messaged me and this was his message tomorrow night date night are you in we could have a nice barbecue some red wine and do some gardening we didn't do the edging this weekend we could do that I've got a changed husband I know how sexy is that I think 10 out of 10 10 out I tell you what
Starting point is 00:06:02 really turn me on that so that's what I'm doing tonight. I'm edging with my husband. Well, good for you. Yeah. So that's the fun bit of what is going to happen tonight in my garden. But also, and I'm going to bring this back to Nowacki, our sponsors, because they sent me this tool that looks looks like looks like a dagger it is quite the most brilliant tool I've ever experienced I was going around the gardens whipping up these um dandelions just up up like like oh my god it's the cool what is that thing
Starting point is 00:06:43 listeners Jojo is talking about the hori hori the hori hori which is the tool i would not be without it's so it does she's right it looks like a dagger and you can either get one with it which with which is um sort of got a a blade edge or you can get one which has got a serrated edge as well and my god i use it for everything from digging as exactly as Jojo said like gouging out weeds but also it's really good if you just want to like pop in some really small bulbs as well because obviously I bring everything out you know you can just stab the soil and like give a little wiggle a roo pop bulb goes in but it's just generally great for all sort of stabby garden
Starting point is 00:07:18 related things even I actually pulled up I hope I'm going to be allowed to say i did this but i pulled up some wild garlic because rosie um my brilliant designer loves cooking and like anything in the garden and i've got so much wild garlic and i cut her some the other day and gave it to her in a bag and then i thought actually she said i'd love to actually grow some more garlic and i was like well i'll just dig some up for you. Just watch out. Terribly invasive. Don't think you're allowed to do that, are you? Oh, God, of course you can.
Starting point is 00:07:49 But you can. It's just really invasive. So, like, once you have wild garlic, you've got it forever. Oh, and also, is it that you can put it in pots, right? You're like, you can, could you pot it? I've never grown wild garlic in a pot. It kind of likes shady, it really likes shady wet spots, doesn't it? Oh, do you know, I went to this incredible open garden. So it's open garden season right now, you know, which is where people open their gardens for the National Garden Scheme for charity.
Starting point is 00:08:15 And I went to this incredible one actually on the bank holiday weekend because that's how I roll, called Van House. And they, Gertrude Jekyll had designed some of it. Very iconic garden design and um it had an absolute sea of wild garlic and it was all in this sort of exactly as you say shady wet area and you know you can um you can pick all the flowers yeah well this is the thing the white flower and i mean if anyone's never experienced wild garlic it is got it really honks of garlic and actually when i went to pull pull some up the the roots go down really low and you they're very delicate so you've actually got to get this is why the the hori hori was so brilliant because
Starting point is 00:08:56 it allowed me to get right down but they're almost like a spring it almost looks like a spring onion and then the flowers are these beautiful white flowers, amazing that they grow in such dark places because it's this amazing flower. Anywho, I can't even remember where I was going with that story, but the hori hori is fantastic. I loved it. You're just telling me your amazing garden adventures. I know. Speaking of garden adventures, you've had some adventuring this week, haven't you?
Starting point is 00:09:24 I have. Literally nothing has happened in my work life other than I've just been chained to a desk for the last week. So I've got absolutely nothing to tell you other than just lots of work on a computer. You know, to the point where you forget that you haven't had lunch and all you've done is sort of grabbed a piece of cheese as you walk past the fridge. That's my life this week. And it's sort of, then I wonder why I'm not eating very well. I think today I've eaten the sum total of a jammy dodger, which Meg, one of my team members, brought in, which, my God, I haven't had a jammy dodger in years. So good. How do you eat yours?
Starting point is 00:09:55 Do you just eat it like, go on. I did in this instance. I tend to nibble the biscuit away, and then I sort of like have a go at the jam and like a child. I'll do that on the next one. And half a pork pie. that's that's my day but yes in um for the bank holiday uh I'm still building the garden so it was I was installing the irrigation this weekend which was a very boring but necessary job and so we know about Fisher and I'm sorry if I keep going on about Fisher but basically I have installed a temporary pond and I treated him to a really beautiful water lily because I thought actually a bit boring just being in an empty pond.
Starting point is 00:10:31 So I went to Wisley and bought a very, frankly, expensive water lily, put it in and I was feeling really pleased with myself. And then just pottering in the garden, went back to check Fisher had acclimatised well to his new pond and he wasn't there and I was like I don't understand how a fish has left the pond, this is physically impossible I don't understand this and the fish has left the pond and Mr Big was mowing the lawn
Starting point is 00:10:58 and I just shouted fish is gone, he came over and we were looking around, suddenly I find him flailing and gasping for his last breaths in in the flower bed in this empty flower bed he's he's a little pink pinky gold fish but out on the soil he was like silver it was so sad he was gasping and I was almost in tears not because I particularly care about this fish but because my children really do they and they don't need any more bad news this year.
Starting point is 00:11:25 So like the fish is important to them. So it's important to me. Yeah. First divorce, then fish. Yeah, I know. Divorce, then fish. Divorce, then fish. Come on. And fish are just sunk to the bottom of the pond on its side. And I thought, this is it. And I was beside myself because I was like, what do I do?
Starting point is 00:11:42 What do I do? They weren't with me this weekend. So do I replace the fish and not tell them do I tell them like I just really wanted to protect them from sadness and um anyway we put some uh net over it and I dropped some food in there and uh we just kept revisiting every hour and he was just lying at the bottom but gasping and we're like okay let's see then about three hours later I was cooking dinner Mr Big runs in and goes fish is alive fish is alive and we run down and there he is happy's a clam happy's a little clam he's just having a break fish is happy my children are
Starting point is 00:12:18 happy it was very dramatic do you not think he's rather lonely in there do you not think you should get him a friend we're going this weekend to get him a friend. Do you know what? Loads of innies and outies. I posted about loads of innies and outies. We're like, not Fisher. So thank you for your kind words, guys. I appreciated it.
Starting point is 00:12:33 Oh, Fisher. And I appreciate your investment in my fish. Maybe you should get the other fish. It should be called Pichel. Pichel? Fisher and Pichel. It's a... No?
Starting point is 00:12:47 It's an appliance brand. What's that, that now it's a bit like smeg with fisher and pichel oh is it you might be getting a fisher and pichel fridge because it's my favorite fisher and pichel oh is that what i'm getting anyway that would have been quite funny i'm not gonna call it a really shit interior joke so sorry about that the interior designers that are going to be absolutely cracking up meanwhile us gardens are like pardon they're not going to be howling they're going to be like that's a really shit joke jojo but cool no i just want to give it a very like standard human name like dave how do you know if it's a girl or a boy i don't know how you gender a fish no i wonder can you gender a fish do fish have a gender do fish show a gender i actually don't know i don't know mate okay that's well let's
Starting point is 00:13:25 look into that one later one for us to look into okay well that's all very dramatic god i really hate you okay all my news i've just been planting the garden and installing that and and other than that all i do is stare at a computer because that's my life right now so good exciting times right should we hop into some questions questions yes come on question time oh i love this okay this is from katherine and her question is i've got planning permission for a log burner for my bedroom but my husband thinks i'm mad a log burner in a bedroom to me depending on the size of your bedroom and the age of your house is not a good idea a lot a log burner might look great but they those things kick out some heat so a log burner is a is a hot bit of kit and realistically it I just don't think it's something I would put in. No, but if you imagine it's essentially contains the heat
Starting point is 00:14:28 and then the heat comes off the log burner. So it's like, it gets really hot. So like I say, unless you've got a really big room where it's sort of quite far away, I just wonder if you, are you ever going to light that? Do you think you'd ever have, would you ever light a fire in your bedroom? Maybe if they had a really big room
Starting point is 00:14:43 and it was sort of, you know, like proper American american we don't know where katherine is but you know in america you can have absolutely whopping great bedrooms if you have a whopping great bedroom then yes lovely that's could potentially be something quite nice i'm not sure you'd ever use i'm kind of leaning towards your husband's view here right we're gonna hop out into the garden darling and with my secateurs in hand i'm coming at you this one is from anna anna's asking are there any easy options of adding summer interest yeah loads but remember i've talked about this before that you've got two summers so don't fall into the trap of only planting the things that look good about nowish which technically we're not in summer yet we're in late spring yeah i think um so you've got your plants look really good around chelsea flower show so your iris your salvias roses catmint well
Starting point is 00:15:37 loads you know what you see at chelsea and those i would call your early summers so you need some of those because those are going to see you through like basically from now on may june july but by july they get a bit tired so i'm assuming you're thinking about like summer summer so like july august september and that's when you really need to pay attention to your latest summer interest things like i mean one of my absolute favorites would be agastache black adder or blue floor blue fortune either of great cultivars which is uh sort of a spiking blue purple which is just a stunning perennial but why i love it it's the pollinators love it but also it looks great in the winter so i wouldn't
Starting point is 00:16:17 be without that in a garden for for late summer interest also she says it a lot ornamental grasses are really great for your summer interest i know that's not necessarily color but you'll thank me for putting them in in terms of swishy movement that's going to carry through to autumn and winter um gowra is another one of my absolute favorites gowra whirling butterflies oh it's my favorite very it's one of my favorites swishy white um frothy plant that you'll find on holiday in whatever so it's very drought tolerant uh flowers for ages and i think uh packs real punch in terms of value of a plant and then one which is really divisive but i love would be asters the name of which is chained but let's just call them an aster
Starting point is 00:17:05 something like little carlo which is like a michaelmas daisy little tiny days purple daisies but on quite a tall plant and a lot of people think they're a bit grannyish but i think you know my mantra is as soon as you understand the value of it and how many months of flower you're going to get out of it at a time when everything else looks a bit crap then i would consider adding some asters as well would you say paul but I know this is a very difficult question to ask would you say that one of your favorite colors in gardens is purple as a plant no no I wouldn't another question would you say that there are certain plants that would look that only look great in an urban garden and some that look great in a country garden like when you talk about some things like wild grasses
Starting point is 00:17:50 do you think they still look good in an urban garden in a country garden like mine no like i think it's not really about this yes and no so i was a bit cute about the purple i obviously love purple but i don't love purple at the expense of others so purple on its own I think can look very flat I like it when you mix it with a pop of orange a pop of pale yellow um you know a bit like what I've done in my Chelsea schemes where you have that sort of crowd-pleasing range of purples and let's face it a hell of a lot of plants purple is the sort of default but then without the sort of lemons and baby pinks and citric greens, I think it's nothing. So the mistake people make is too much purple, not enough of anything else. And then, no, I think plants, I think you can use most plants in most places,
Starting point is 00:18:36 as long as the light is right, obviously, in the conditions. It's just how you use them. Because, you know, something like a rose, I think, looks amazing in a London garden, but equally looks fabulous in the country and ornamental grasses too it's almost how you lay them out um and obviously urban garden you've got less space so but no i think no i think you can really play with plants in an urban setting and then what i do think looks weird is certain plants in a country setting but we've talked about this before so yeah brilliant sorry
Starting point is 00:19:05 paul i hopped on anna's question there no not at all not at all anytime what's for outside should i ask you another one or do you want to go inside no i want to go inside if that's all right thank you that's quite enough of me blathering on um let's go for siobhan she has any question about roman blinds she's thinking of them in a child's bedroom because she doesn't want long curtains but are they better in the recess or outside and she says my window reveals aren't straight oh this is such a good question let's just remind us everyone because i've forgotten again what is a roman blind is that the saggy one no a roman blind you have different it's the way it's um strung that makes it saggy.
Starting point is 00:19:48 So a floppy Roman means it just doesn't have a string in the middle. A Roman blind is straight, but it folds floppy. I think I just wanted you to say floppy Roman again. You just love that word, don't you? A Roman is where it sort of folds up into pleats. The Roman is the folding one. Thank you. Folding into pleats.
Starting point is 00:20:01 Yeah. So a Roman blind, usually I will always put a blind above a recess, but it very much depends. If you have a low window, I will always try and put the Roman blind above the recess because that what that will do is it will raise the height of your window. So visually it'll make your window appear taller. So I usually put the Roman outside of the recess. Clever trick. so i usually put the roman clever trick outside of the recess clever trick however in a kiddie's bedroom you do get light leakage around when you pull your roman blind down and you've usually got a few centimeters of overlap on either side you do get light leaking through the side of those the roman blind when it's pulled when it's closed when it's down and therefore in a kiddie's bedroom so it's not so not so much a problem in a in a you know guest bedroom and adult bedrooms we quite like a bit of light leaking but in a kid's bedroom a lot of kids need darkness because otherwise they see sun
Starting point is 00:20:52 at five in the morning they want to get out of bed so i tend to say recess go in the recess whether they see light or not or right or if you are going to um if you are going to have Roman blinds, like if you want the Roman blind to be a real feature and be in a lovely fabric, if it's tucked up inside the recess, you are losing light. Don't forget, two thirds of the light comes in the top one third of your window. And therefore, if you want to have that feature of the Roman blind and it's going to create like it's going to bring pattern to the room and you want to have it on the outside of the recess do that but i would suggest getting a just a sort of you know quick and easy cheap blackout roller blind that sits up inside the recess against inside inside and up so that you can pull that down to give you the real blackout but then your roman blind is serving more as a sort of a really lovely way to anchor all of your other fabrics and colors and
Starting point is 00:21:45 things going on in the room because that's a Roman window dressing serves a double purpose it's there to obviously give you privacy or give you you know a blackout but equally it's serving a purpose of creating interest and softness and bringing pattern in and color so yeah I hope that answered that question. Since I'm truly terrible at keeping up with emails, I use Gemini to give me summaries of my inbox, which is a lifesaver. And if I'm feeling stuck creatively, I just ask Gemini for help and bam, instant inspiration. You can learn more about Google Pixel 9 at store.google.com. Whether you're in your running era, Pilates era, or yoga era, dive into Peloton workouts that work with you. From meditating at your kid's game to mastering a
Starting point is 00:22:45 strength program, they've got everything you need to keep knocking down your goals. No pressure to be who you're not, just workouts and classes to strengthen who you are. So no matter your era, make it your best with Peloton. Find your push, find your power. Peloton. Visit Peloton at onepeloton.ca. Right, hopping outside. This one is from Monty Papa. Great name. Monty Papa. Love the pod. And you gals, I remember you saying making beds too shallow is a common mistake. What depth should we be aiming for? Good question. Love this question. So, and actually this is, yeah yeah something i've been pondering a lot at the moment obviously the answer is a little bit it depends on the size of your garden but as a minimum if you could give yourself two meters i'd invite you to
Starting point is 00:23:37 two meters plus would be lovely the reason being is not because um i'm being militant about it but because you want layers of plants. What we're trying to avoid is a row. And a lot of plants, let's say, get to, I don't know, 50 centimetres to a metre, whatever. So if you only have, say, an 80 centimetre border, you're really only going to get one row of plants in it. So the idea being, if you have about two metres, you're going to get about three rows of plants. And it's that depth which is going to make the planting look interesting so it's not about i don't want you to have a lawn is that i want you to have something interesting to look at and also
Starting point is 00:24:15 it's very challenging to have an interesting seasonal garden if you've got narrow borders because you know you can only fit so many plants in and you as you well know we need to cluster and repeat our plants cluster and repeat if you can go two meters and repeat please please try you know if you basically factor in three rows of plants that's going to be the minimum 1.5 to 2 so if you can and you have the space that's my advice so good thanks paul great question okay alicia is asking i love the pod and yes i have reviewed it and given it five stars thank you oh thanks alicia you're gonna get a really good answer in future should we only answer listeners questions who give us five stars yes that's it from now on that's it okay alicia alicia is asking i'm writing to ask about art above a headboard
Starting point is 00:25:06 are there any rules of scale so if we have a king-sized bed should we have something that's about spans sort of width of the bed or can i go for a smaller special piece that i really like oh no oh she's frowning she's frowning i don't like art above a headboard. It's a no from me. I don't know. I'd put art next to a headboard or indeed across the room on the opposite side from the headboard, but I don't ever put a headboard above a headboard. Even if it's quite a low headboard,
Starting point is 00:25:42 not like one of your lovely sort of curvy ones? Well, that's what i was going to say if if you've got a very high ceiling a lovely high ceiling and you've got a low headboard that's going to call out for something but in a standard room where your ceiling is like you know standard height so 2.4 meters and you've got a decent size headboard don't go putting anything above it it i i just think it it detracts away from the bed and the bed you can sort of dress in itself like I think the art can sometimes be a bit I'd almost need to see a picture because I think it very much depends I'm going to assume that because
Starting point is 00:26:17 she has asked this question she wants a piece of art above the bed so if you want a bit of art well let's assume that she doesn't have um a headboard like I mean i can completely see your point when you're doing those ones which which are sort of the ones that you have which have that amazing curved top and it actually takes up quite a lot of the wall i can completely see your reasoning but if if she's got quite a low one you know certain beds come with just a little boop of a headboard then what would you do well also the headboard if you're gonna have a bit of art above the bed it really needs to be a straight headboard nothing with a sort of curve to it okay because that's going to look a bit odd art above the bed it really needs to be a straight headboard nothing with a sort of curve to it okay because that's going to look a bit odd yes i would go with a single piece almost like a
Starting point is 00:26:49 landscape piece that's that's a single piece not too small it's going to have to but don't don't go as big as the size of the bed that would look bonkers just something probably a third of the size of the bed above the bed if you if you want a piece so you wouldn't do like a you know your lovely um triptych no no corals and you know no triptychs absolutely not no no i just think that look is so passe sorry it's just oh you heard it here first but it just visually it just i it creates too much busyness around the bed the head the bed itself once it's got your cushions and you're throwing everything on and you've got your bed so tables and your lamps it creates far too much busyness around the headboard wall okay you want
Starting point is 00:27:34 to take the artwork and put it elsewhere on a wall that doesn't have anything to create you're trying to create balance with interiors like you you want to walk in and feel that there's balance whereas if you put everything against the headboard wall it's going to feel too over cluttered and it's going to feel a bit oh yeah it doesn't need it i don't think it needs it fine yeah well there we go popping outside to the garden again right laura is saying bamboo want to hide neighbor's garden but will will the roots damage the patio i don't touch bamboo with a barge pole. Really? Because I have seen bamboo, not planted by me, thank you very much,
Starting point is 00:28:12 go through a client's floorboards. What? Is it that strong? Yeah. Oh, my gosh. I mean, they vary in voraciousness. I can't find my words today. In vigour.
Starting point is 00:28:27 Other viewers. So bamboo, basically, in pots, sometimes designers will use it as a screening method. So in a really robust, strong pot on top of a patio, something like a concrete line planter for example that doesn't go into the ground some designers will I personally just leave it well alone I don't like to go near it because I've seen so many examples where bamboo from the neighbor's garden has you know spread all the way into it's so invasive it is such an invasive plant so if you do want to use a bamboo then the black bamboo which is phyllostachys nigra
Starting point is 00:29:07 um is one of the best behaved i understand so that's one that we have used in in pots or troughs before um so but just make sure if you are going to go for a bamboo you do your homework and you choose one of the non-invasive or not as invasive options okay well i think that's enough of that that's a lot of questions today so uh well that brings us to the end uh what's in and what's out jj tell me oh what's in for me this week is my aura ring this thing here do you know about these what's that it's called an aura ring and i got this on a recommendation of a couple of girlfriends of mine. And it basically tracks your... This is not an ad, by the way.
Starting point is 00:29:49 I paid for it. This very large device here is essentially like an Apple Watch. It sort of picks up your... Or GoFit or Bits or whatever they're called. It links up to your phone. It tracks your blood pressure your heart rate your sleep patterns your stress levels um you wear it for a week and then it calibrates and now it track it tells me the percentage of the quality of my sleep so it'll wake in the morning and say you're you had 83
Starting point is 00:30:17 sleep last night and it'll look at the rem the deep sleep um when i got up in the night and you can literally see this little graph of when of how your sleep went yeah and then it'll tell you oh my god I've become obsessed with that it's slightly obsessive in that I I guess so when I have high stress periods in my day you can literally see it spike and it'll say stress it has stress level so it's kind of it's really interesting but what it does the brilliant thing about it is that it captures all of the data from your day, from your sleep last night to your stress levels, to your blood pressure, to all those things. And then it'll work out what your readiness score is for the next day.
Starting point is 00:30:58 So your readiness score will then be like, your readiness score is 73%, which is good. then be like your readiness scores 73% which is good but therefore you're it'll it'll say get out and walk a bit less today because you didn't sleep very well last night so a bit less exercise today take it easy make sure you sort of reduce your stress levels a little bit so it's really what if your readiness score is really bad like what if it's like oh you had a terrible night's sleep it tells you to chill out it says you've got to reduce your stress and you don't do don't do as much exercise get some get you know sit down a bit more get some rest don't you know but it'll also give me a nudge i'll get a message saying do you think it's time you stretch your legs if i've been sitting down for too long lazy yeah and it's good because it makes me get up and
Starting point is 00:31:38 just i think i just get that all day at the computer but i like the fact that it's a ring because it's and i can just sleep with it on you can wash with it you can do everything you just leave it on there and then it's kind of working it's it's really good anyway so that's what's in for me this week because i'm really enjoying it because it's it's also tell you interestingly have you ever been like woken up by the kids or you feel like you haven't had a good night's sleep and you wake up and it can affect your entire day because you think you had a shit night's sleep yes this thing actually tells you you've had a shit night's sleep and you've actually ended up having a good night's sleep but mentally you're like i actually had a really good night's sleep
Starting point is 00:32:07 last night so i actually feel total placebo effect i feel great i'm like oh my god well my ring said i've had a great night's sleep so i've had a great night's sleep anyway so that's what's in i do have a big out which is slugs oh they are ruining my life i mean it's a terrible year for them because it's been so wet, but I've planted up my cutting garden with all my dahlias and my cosmos. They're all in. Obviously, we had quite a wet week last week and they just munched through every single damn cosmos.
Starting point is 00:32:35 And they are now on their way up and just having a feast. So I am on operation. Get rid of the slugs in obviously a very environmentally friendly way so i am on a mission i've got like a trial bed of all the different things nematodes and some sort of organic lovely spray and sheep wool and copper tape and i'm going to try them all try them all even though everyone says nothing works and all you can do is go and pick them off in the middle
Starting point is 00:33:00 of the night but i don't want to do that there's just something so gross about slugs i'm with you pal they're not cool slugs are not cool that's a really good out this this week yeah out and with that that's another episode wrapped that's another episode pal that was a goodie i'm so jealous of your sexy edging evening my edging evening have a lovely evening have a lovely glass of wine thank you my darling couples I can't wait to see you next week. Oh, I get to actually physically see you next week. On the old stumping ground. Chelsea Flower Show.
Starting point is 00:33:31 I can't wait. Chelsea Flower Show next week. And remember to come and see us. We're going to be recording the podcast on the Wednesday of Chelsea Flower Show. So come and say hi. Come and say hi. Wednesday. Wednesday the 22nd,
Starting point is 00:33:45 I think that is. 22nd. Project Giving Backstand. Come and see the amazing work they do and come and say hello. That's quite enough. Farewell, darling.
Starting point is 00:33:53 Big kiss. Goodbye, my love. Goodbye. Au revoir, everyone. Bye. Bye, knees. Bye. Hey, it's Mitch
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