The Ins & Outs - Summer Planting & Blind Masterclass
Episode Date: May 14, 2024This week Jojo delivers a masterclass on blinds in the bedroom and tells us all about her edging endeavours with her husband.Polly saves Fisher the fish from his impending doom and educates us on plan...ts for summer interest.Plus, we discus how best to deal with slugs!This episode is sponsored by Niwaki, purveyors of the finest Japanese garden tools and accessories this side of Mt. Fuji. From hand-finished carbon steel secateurs to the best-selling Hori Hori wonder-weeder, Niwaki’s tools combine utility and style to make gardening even more of a pleasure. Click the link to visit their website and see the whole range of great stuff from Japan - www.niwaki.com.Get 10% off by using the details below:Discount: INSANDOUTS10 URL: https://www.niwaki.com/INSANDOUTS10InstagramPodcast - @the_insandouts_Jojo - @houseninedesignPolly - @pollyanna_wilkinsonProducer Andy - @andy_rowe_WebsitesJojo - https://www.housenine.co.uk/Polly - https://www.pollyannawilkinson.com/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Hello Inns and Outs and welcome to this episode of the Inns and Outs with myself Jojo
Barr and the very lovely Pollyanna Wilkinson.
And I am so excited, you can tell in my voice, to say that we are sponsored this week by
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So on this week's episode we're talking
edging both in and out the resurrection of fisher plants for summer interest
my masterclass in kids bedrooms blinds and polly's war on slugs
hello my darling how are you i'm very well how are you?
I'm very well, how are you? What's been going on?
I've actually just got back from a brilliant meeting in London.
Weirdly, I think I said really recently on the podcast how much I wanted a new London project.
And we've got one in fabulous Islington.
And it's one of those typical, beautiful Islington townhouses on a square a square it's beautiful so that's really fun
so i'm really chuffed about that and we've just been i've we've just been mental in the studio
and we've had like i can't tell you how many proposals we've got going on at the moment it's
just been very admin heavy which as you know pal know, pal, is a very, very large portion of our job.
97% of it.
97% is admin.
What do you do on the bank holes?
The bank holes, we hung out at home, did some gardening.
You'll be pleased to know.
I'm actually quite proud of myself, Paul, because the...
Tell me.
My...
And this is where I'm learning.
I'm learning just as much as you guys are outies but i've got
this really long flower bed like really really really big beds across the front of the house
as you know paul and they the last couple of years have just been so tatty and i made a real effort of
weeding the beds but during the winter months they just didn't look like a lot and now suddenly it's all the
kind of bedding plants are taking shape and I'm like oh my god I did this I can't believe it and
it's actually looking really nice I have to tell you I saw this tutorial on Instagram about this
guy that was like edging edging and I'll tell you what sorry it was it was it was
he was edging and i tell you it was it was quite horny to watch i've got to tell you
kind of turned me on a bit dude that could be misconstrued do you know what edging is
oh god is it a sexual thing what's edging oh god what, what is it? Tell me.
Shall I look it up?
Apparently that's quite good for sperm quality, apparently.
It says edging.
Edging, sometimes also referred to as gooning or surfing.
It's a sexual technique whereby an orgasm is controlled.
It is practiced alone or with a partner.
So you kind of get to the brink and then you stop. really works for me that maybe i'm just too impatient anyway digressing away from edging your sexual antics uh this was edging of the lawn edging of the flower bed and
he was using all these sort of tools and then he was snipping and snipping and snipping it oh
my goodness it was quite it was quite something really appealing and I sent it to Brad who as you know is not exactly a dab hand at
DIY and garden stuff and even he was like I'm going to the garden center I'm gonna go and get
those things so we're gonna we're tonight this is our date night tonight he messaged me Brad
messaged me and this was his message tomorrow night date night are you in we could have a nice barbecue
some red wine and do some gardening we didn't do the edging this weekend we could do that
I've got a changed husband I know how sexy is that I think 10 out of 10 10 out I tell you what
really turn me on that so that's what I'm doing tonight.
I'm edging with my husband.
Well, good for you.
Yeah.
So that's the fun bit of what is going to happen tonight in my garden.
But also, and I'm going to bring this back to Nowacki, our sponsors, because they sent me this tool that looks looks like looks like a dagger
it is quite the most brilliant tool I've ever experienced I was going around the gardens
whipping up these um dandelions just up up like like oh my god it's the cool what is that thing
listeners Jojo is talking about the
hori hori the hori hori which is the tool i would not be without it's so it does she's right it
looks like a dagger and you can either get one with it which with which is um sort of got a
a blade edge or you can get one which has got a serrated edge as well and my god i use it for
everything from digging as exactly as Jojo said like gouging
out weeds but also it's really good if you just want to like pop in some really small bulbs as
well because obviously I bring everything out you know you can just stab the soil and like give a
little wiggle a roo pop bulb goes in but it's just generally great for all sort of stabby garden
related things even I actually pulled up I hope I'm going to be allowed to say i did this but i pulled up some
wild garlic because rosie um my brilliant designer loves cooking and like anything in the garden
and i've got so much wild garlic and i cut her some the other day and gave it to her in a bag
and then i thought actually she said i'd love to actually grow some more garlic and i was like
well i'll just dig some up for you. Just watch out.
Terribly invasive.
Don't think you're allowed to do that, are you?
Oh, God, of course you can.
But you can.
It's just really invasive.
So, like, once you have wild garlic, you've got it forever.
Oh, and also, is it that you can put it in pots, right?
You're like, you can, could you pot it?
I've never grown wild garlic in a pot. It kind of likes shady, it really likes shady wet spots, doesn't it?
Oh, do you know, I went to this incredible open garden.
So it's open garden season right now, you know, which is where people open their gardens for the National Garden Scheme for charity.
And I went to this incredible one actually on the bank holiday weekend because that's how I roll, called Van House.
And they, Gertrude Jekyll had designed some of it.
Very iconic garden design
and um it had an absolute sea of wild garlic and it was all in this sort of exactly as you say
shady wet area and you know you can um you can pick all the flowers yeah well this is the thing
the white flower and i mean if anyone's never experienced wild garlic it is got it really honks of garlic
and actually when i went to pull pull some up the the roots go down really low and you they're very
delicate so you've actually got to get this is why the the hori hori was so brilliant because
it allowed me to get right down but they're almost like a spring it almost looks like a spring onion
and then the flowers are these beautiful white flowers, amazing that they grow in such dark places because it's this amazing flower.
Anywho, I can't even remember where I was going with that story,
but the hori hori is fantastic.
I loved it.
You're just telling me your amazing garden adventures.
I know.
Speaking of garden adventures, you've had some adventuring this week, haven't you?
I have. Literally nothing has happened in my work life other than I've just been chained to a desk for the last week.
So I've got absolutely nothing to tell you other than just lots of work on a computer.
You know, to the point where you forget that you haven't had lunch and all you've done is sort of grabbed a piece of cheese as you walk past the fridge.
That's my life this week. And it's sort of, then I wonder why I'm not eating very well. I think today I've eaten the sum total of a jammy dodger,
which Meg, one of my team members, brought in,
which, my God, I haven't had a jammy dodger in years.
So good.
How do you eat yours?
Do you just eat it like, go on.
I did in this instance.
I tend to nibble the biscuit away,
and then I sort of like have a go at the jam and like a child.
I'll do that on the next one.
And half a pork pie. that's that's my day but yes in um for the bank holiday uh I'm still building the garden so it was I was installing the irrigation this weekend which was a very
boring but necessary job and so we know about Fisher and I'm sorry if I keep going on about
Fisher but basically I have installed a temporary pond and I treated him to a really beautiful water lily because I thought actually a bit boring just being in an empty pond.
So I went to Wisley and bought a very, frankly, expensive water lily, put it in and I was feeling really pleased with myself.
And then just pottering in the garden, went back to check Fisher had acclimatised well to his new pond and he wasn't there
and I was like
I don't understand how a fish has left
the pond, this is physically impossible
I don't understand this
and the fish has left the pond
and Mr Big was mowing the lawn
and I just shouted
fish is gone, he came over
and we were looking around, suddenly I find him
flailing and
gasping for his last breaths in in the flower bed in this empty flower bed he's he's a little pink
pinky gold fish but out on the soil he was like silver it was so sad he was gasping and I was
almost in tears not because I particularly care about this fish but because my children really do
they and they don't need any more bad news this year.
So like the fish is important to them.
So it's important to me.
Yeah. First divorce, then fish.
Yeah, I know. Divorce, then fish.
Divorce, then fish. Come on.
And fish are just sunk to the bottom of the pond on its side.
And I thought, this is it.
And I was beside myself because I was like, what do I do?
What do I do?
They weren't with me this weekend.
So do I replace the fish and not tell them do I tell them like I just really wanted to
protect them from sadness and um anyway we put some uh net over it and I dropped some food in
there and uh we just kept revisiting every hour and he was just lying at the bottom but gasping
and we're like okay let's see then about three hours later I was cooking dinner
Mr Big runs in and goes fish is alive fish is alive and we run down and there he is
happy's a clam happy's a little clam he's just having a break fish is happy my children are
happy it was very dramatic do you not think he's rather lonely in there do you not think you should
get him a friend we're going this weekend to get him a friend.
Do you know what?
Loads of innies and outies.
I posted about loads of innies and outies.
We're like, not Fisher.
So thank you for your kind words, guys.
I appreciated it.
Oh, Fisher.
And I appreciate your investment in my fish.
Maybe you should get the other fish.
It should be called Pichel.
Pichel?
Fisher and Pichel.
It's a...
No?
It's an appliance brand. What's that, that now it's a bit like smeg with fisher and pichel oh is it you might be getting a fisher and pichel fridge because
it's my favorite fisher and pichel oh is that what i'm getting anyway that would have been
quite funny i'm not gonna call it a really shit interior joke so sorry about that the interior
designers that are going to be absolutely cracking up meanwhile us gardens are like pardon they're not going to be howling they're going to be like
that's a really shit joke jojo but cool no i just want to give it a very like standard human name
like dave how do you know if it's a girl or a boy i don't know how you gender a fish no i wonder can
you gender a fish do fish have a gender do fish show a gender i actually don't know i don't know
mate okay that's well let's
look into that one later one for us to look into okay well that's all very dramatic god i really
hate you okay all my news i've just been planting the garden and installing that and and other than
that all i do is stare at a computer because that's my life right now so good exciting times right should we hop into some questions questions
yes come on question time oh i love this okay this is from katherine and her question is i've
got planning permission for a log burner for my bedroom but my husband thinks i'm mad a log burner
in a bedroom to me depending on the size of your bedroom and the age of your house is not a good idea a lot
a log burner might look great but they those things kick out some heat so a log burner is a
is a hot bit of kit and realistically it I just don't think it's something I would put in. No, but if you imagine it's essentially contains the heat
and then the heat comes off the log burner.
So it's like, it gets really hot.
So like I say, unless you've got a really big room
where it's sort of quite far away,
I just wonder if you, are you ever going to light that?
Do you think you'd ever have,
would you ever light a fire in your bedroom?
Maybe if they had a really big room
and it was sort of, you know, like proper American american we don't know where katherine is but you know in
america you can have absolutely whopping great bedrooms if you have a whopping great bedroom
then yes lovely that's could potentially be something quite nice i'm not sure you'd ever
use i'm kind of leaning towards your husband's view here right we're gonna hop out into the garden darling and with my
secateurs in hand i'm coming at you this one is from anna anna's asking are there any easy options
of adding summer interest yeah loads but remember i've talked about this before that you've got two
summers so don't fall into the trap of only planting the things that look good about nowish which technically we're not in summer yet we're in late spring yeah i think um so you've got
your plants look really good around chelsea flower show so your iris your salvias roses catmint well
loads you know what you see at chelsea and those i would call your early summers so you need some
of those because those are going to see you through like basically
from now on may june july but by july they get a bit tired so i'm assuming you're thinking about
like summer summer so like july august september and that's when you really need to pay attention
to your latest summer interest things like i mean one of my absolute favorites would be
agastache black adder or blue floor blue fortune either
of great cultivars which is uh sort of a spiking blue purple which is just a stunning perennial
but why i love it it's the pollinators love it but also it looks great in the winter so i wouldn't
be without that in a garden for for late summer interest also she says it a lot ornamental grasses
are really great for your summer interest
i know that's not necessarily color but you'll thank me for putting them in in terms of swishy
movement that's going to carry through to autumn and winter um gowra is another one of my absolute
favorites gowra whirling butterflies oh it's my favorite very it's one of my favorites swishy white um frothy plant that you'll find on holiday in
whatever so it's very drought tolerant uh flowers for ages and i think uh packs real punch in terms
of value of a plant and then one which is really divisive but i love would be asters the name of
which is chained but let's just call them an aster
something like little carlo which is like a michaelmas daisy little tiny days purple daisies
but on quite a tall plant and a lot of people think they're a bit grannyish but i think you
know my mantra is as soon as you understand the value of it and how many months of flower you're
going to get out of it at a time when everything else looks a bit crap then i would consider adding
some asters as well would you say paul but I know this is a very difficult question to ask would you say that
one of your favorite colors in gardens is purple as a plant no no I wouldn't another question
would you say that there are certain plants that would look that only look great in an urban garden
and some that look great in a country garden like when you talk about some things like wild grasses
do you think they still look good in an urban garden in a country garden like mine no like i
think it's not really about this yes and no so i was a bit cute about the purple i obviously love
purple but i don't love purple at the expense of others so purple on its own I think can look very flat I like it when you mix it with a pop of orange a
pop of pale yellow um you know a bit like what I've done in my Chelsea schemes where you have
that sort of crowd-pleasing range of purples and let's face it a hell of a lot of plants purple is
the sort of default but then without the sort of lemons and baby pinks and citric greens, I think it's nothing.
So the mistake people make is too much purple, not enough of anything else.
And then, no, I think plants, I think you can use most plants in most places,
as long as the light is right, obviously, in the conditions.
It's just how you use them.
Because, you know, something like a rose, I think, looks amazing in a London garden,
but equally looks
fabulous in the country and ornamental grasses too it's almost how you lay them out um and
obviously urban garden you've got less space so but no i think no i think you can really play with
plants in an urban setting and then what i do think looks weird is certain plants in a
country setting but we've talked about this before so yeah brilliant sorry
paul i hopped on anna's question there no not at all not at all anytime what's for outside should
i ask you another one or do you want to go inside no i want to go inside if that's all right thank
you that's quite enough of me blathering on um let's go for siobhan she has any question about
roman blinds she's thinking of them in a child's bedroom because she doesn't want long curtains
but are they better in the recess or outside and she says my window reveals aren't straight
oh this is such a good question let's just remind us everyone because i've forgotten again what is
a roman blind is that the saggy one no a roman blind you have different it's the way it's um
strung that makes it saggy.
So a floppy Roman means it just doesn't have a string in the middle.
A Roman blind is straight, but it folds floppy.
I think I just wanted you to say floppy Roman again.
You just love that word, don't you?
A Roman is where it sort of folds up into pleats.
The Roman is the folding one.
Thank you.
Folding into pleats.
Yeah.
So a Roman blind, usually I will always put a blind above a recess, but it very much depends. If you have a low window, I will always try and put the Roman blind above the recess because that what that will do is it will raise the height of your window.
So visually it'll make your window appear taller. So I usually put the Roman outside of the recess. Clever trick.
so i usually put the roman clever trick outside of the recess clever trick however in a kiddie's bedroom you do get light leakage around when you pull your roman blind down and you've usually got
a few centimeters of overlap on either side you do get light leaking through the side of those
the roman blind when it's pulled when it's closed when it's down and therefore in a kiddie's
bedroom so it's not so not so much a problem in a in a you know guest bedroom and adult bedrooms we quite like a bit
of light leaking but in a kid's bedroom a lot of kids need darkness because otherwise they see sun
at five in the morning they want to get out of bed so i tend to say recess go in the recess whether
they see light or not or right or if you are going to um if you are going to have Roman blinds, like if you want the Roman blind to be a real feature and be in a lovely fabric, if it's tucked up inside the recess, you are losing light.
Don't forget, two thirds of the light comes in the top one third of your window.
And therefore, if you want to have that feature of the Roman blind and it's going to create like it's going to bring pattern to the room and you want to have it on the outside of the recess do that but i would suggest getting a just
a sort of you know quick and easy cheap blackout roller blind that sits up inside the recess against
inside inside and up so that you can pull that down to give you the real blackout but then your
roman blind is serving more as a sort of a really lovely way to anchor all of your other fabrics and
colors and
things going on in the room because that's a Roman window dressing serves a double purpose
it's there to obviously give you privacy or give you you know a blackout but equally it's serving
a purpose of creating interest and softness and bringing pattern in and color so yeah I hope that
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Right, hopping outside. This one is from Monty Papa. Great name. Monty Papa. Love the pod.
And you gals, I remember you saying making beds too shallow is a common mistake.
What depth should we be aiming for? Good question.
Love this question. So, and actually this is, yeah yeah something i've been pondering a lot at the moment obviously the answer is a little bit it depends on
the size of your garden but as a minimum if you could give yourself two meters i'd invite you to
two meters plus would be lovely the reason being is not because um i'm being militant about it but
because you want layers of plants.
What we're trying to avoid is a row.
And a lot of plants, let's say, get to, I don't know, 50 centimetres to a metre, whatever.
So if you only have, say, an 80 centimetre border, you're really only going to get one row of plants in it.
So the idea being, if you have about two metres, you're going to get about three rows of plants.
And it's that depth which is going to make the planting look interesting so it's not about i
don't want you to have a lawn is that i want you to have something interesting to look at and also
it's very challenging to have an interesting seasonal garden if you've got narrow borders
because you know you can only fit so many plants in and you as you well know we need to cluster and repeat our plants cluster and repeat if you can go two meters and repeat
please please try you know if you basically factor in three rows of plants that's going to be the
minimum 1.5 to 2 so if you can and you have the space that's my advice so good thanks paul great
question okay alicia is asking i love the pod
and yes i have reviewed it and given it five stars thank you oh thanks alicia you're gonna
get a really good answer in future should we only answer listeners questions who give us five stars
yes that's it from now on that's it okay alicia alicia is asking i'm writing to ask about art above a headboard
are there any rules of scale so if we have a king-sized bed should we have something that's
about spans sort of width of the bed or can i go for a smaller special piece that i really like
oh no oh she's frowning she's frowning i don't like art above a headboard. It's a no from me.
I don't know.
I'd put art next to a headboard
or indeed across the room on the opposite side from the headboard,
but I don't ever put a headboard above a headboard.
Even if it's quite a low headboard,
not like one of your lovely sort of curvy ones?
Well, that's
what i was going to say if if you've got a very high ceiling a lovely high ceiling and you've got
a low headboard that's going to call out for something but in a standard room where your
ceiling is like you know standard height so 2.4 meters and you've got a decent size headboard
don't go putting anything above it it i i just think it it detracts away from the
bed and the bed you can sort of dress in itself like I think the art can sometimes be a bit I'd
almost need to see a picture because I think it very much depends I'm going to assume that because
she has asked this question she wants a piece of art above the bed so if you want a bit of art
well let's assume that she doesn't have um a headboard like I mean i can completely see your point when you're doing those ones which which are sort of
the ones that you have which have that amazing curved top and it actually takes up quite a lot
of the wall i can completely see your reasoning but if if she's got quite a low one you know
certain beds come with just a little boop of a headboard then what would you do well also the
headboard if you're gonna have a bit of art above the bed it really needs to be a straight headboard
nothing with a sort of curve to it okay because that's going to look a bit odd art above the bed it really needs to be a straight headboard nothing with a sort of curve
to it okay because that's going to look a bit odd yes i would go with a single piece almost like a
landscape piece that's that's a single piece not too small it's going to have to but don't don't
go as big as the size of the bed that would look bonkers just something probably a third of the
size of the bed above the bed if you if you want a piece so you wouldn't do
like a you know your lovely um triptych no no corals and you know no triptychs absolutely not
no no i just think that look is so passe sorry it's just oh you heard it here first but it just
visually it just i it creates too much busyness around the bed the head the bed
itself once it's got your cushions and you're throwing everything on and you've got your bed
so tables and your lamps it creates far too much busyness around the headboard wall okay you want
to take the artwork and put it elsewhere on a wall that doesn't have anything to create you're
trying to create balance with interiors like you you want to walk in and feel that there's balance
whereas if you put everything against the headboard wall it's going to feel too over cluttered and it's going to feel
a bit oh yeah it doesn't need it i don't think it needs it fine yeah well there we go popping
outside to the garden again right laura is saying bamboo want to hide neighbor's garden but will
will the roots damage the patio i don't touch bamboo with a barge pole.
Really?
Because I have seen bamboo, not planted by me, thank you very much,
go through a client's floorboards.
What?
Is it that strong?
Yeah.
Oh, my gosh.
I mean, they vary in voraciousness.
I can't find my words today.
In vigour.
Other viewers.
So bamboo, basically, in pots,
sometimes designers will use it as a screening method.
So in a really robust, strong pot on top of a patio,
something like a concrete line planter for example that doesn't
go into the ground some designers will I personally just leave it well alone I don't like to go near
it because I've seen so many examples where bamboo from the neighbor's garden has you know
spread all the way into it's so invasive it is such an invasive plant so if you do want to use a bamboo then the black bamboo which is phyllostachys nigra
um is one of the best behaved i understand so that's one that we have used in in pots or troughs
before um so but just make sure if you are going to go for a bamboo you do your homework and you
choose one of the non-invasive or not as invasive options okay well i think that's enough of that that's a lot of
questions today so uh well that brings us to the end uh what's in and what's out jj tell me oh
what's in for me this week is my aura ring this thing here do you know about these what's that
it's called an aura ring and i got this on a recommendation of a couple of girlfriends of mine.
And it basically tracks your...
This is not an ad, by the way.
I paid for it.
This very large device here is essentially like an Apple Watch.
It sort of picks up your...
Or GoFit or Bits or whatever they're called.
It links up to your phone.
It tracks your blood pressure your heart rate your sleep patterns
your stress levels um you wear it for a week and then it calibrates and now it track it tells me
the percentage of the quality of my sleep so it'll wake in the morning and say you're you had 83
sleep last night and it'll look at the rem the deep sleep um when i got up in the night and you
can literally see this little graph
of when of how your sleep went yeah and then it'll tell you oh my god I've become obsessed with that
it's slightly obsessive in that I I guess so when I have high stress periods in my day you can
literally see it spike and it'll say stress it has stress level so it's kind of it's really
interesting but what it does the brilliant thing about it is that it captures all of the data from your day,
from your sleep last night to your stress levels, to your blood pressure, to all those things.
And then it'll work out what your readiness score is for the next day.
So your readiness score will then be like, your readiness score is 73%, which is good.
then be like your readiness scores 73% which is good but therefore you're it'll it'll say get out and walk a bit less today because you didn't sleep very well last night so a bit less exercise today
take it easy make sure you sort of reduce your stress levels a little bit so it's really what
if your readiness score is really bad like what if it's like oh you had a terrible night's sleep
it tells you to chill out it says you've got to reduce your stress and you don't do
don't do as much exercise get some get you know sit down a bit more get some rest don't you know
but it'll also give me a nudge i'll get a message saying do you think it's time you stretch your
legs if i've been sitting down for too long lazy yeah and it's good because it makes me get up and
just i think i just get that all day at the computer but i like the fact that it's a ring
because it's and i can just sleep with it on you can wash with it you can do everything you just leave it on there and then it's kind of
working it's it's really good anyway so that's what's in for me this week because i'm really
enjoying it because it's it's also tell you interestingly have you ever been like woken up
by the kids or you feel like you haven't had a good night's sleep and you wake up and it can
affect your entire day because you think you had a shit night's sleep yes this thing actually tells
you you've had a shit night's sleep and you've actually ended up having a good night's sleep
but mentally you're like i actually had a really good night's sleep
last night so i actually feel total placebo effect i feel great i'm like oh my god well
my ring said i've had a great night's sleep so i've had a great night's sleep anyway so that's
what's in i do have a big out which is slugs oh they are ruining my life i mean it's a terrible
year for them because it's been so wet, but I've planted up my cutting garden
with all my dahlias and my cosmos.
They're all in.
Obviously, we had quite a wet week last week
and they just munched through every single damn cosmos.
And they are now on their way up
and just having a feast.
So I am on operation.
Get rid of the slugs
in obviously a very environmentally friendly way so i am on a
mission i've got like a trial bed of all the different things nematodes and some sort of
organic lovely spray and sheep wool and copper tape and i'm going to try them all try them all
even though everyone says nothing works and all you can do is go and pick them off in the middle
of the night but i don't want to do that there's just something so gross about slugs i'm with you
pal they're not cool slugs are not cool that's a really good out this this week
yeah out and with that that's another episode wrapped that's another episode pal that was a
goodie i'm so jealous of your sexy edging evening my edging evening have a lovely evening have a
lovely glass of wine thank you my darling couples I can't wait to see you next week.
Oh, I get to actually physically see you next week.
On the old stumping ground.
Chelsea Flower Show.
I can't wait.
Chelsea Flower Show next week.
And remember to come and see us.
We're going to be recording the podcast on the Wednesday of Chelsea Flower Show.
So come and say hi.
Come and say hi.
Wednesday.
Wednesday the 22nd,
I think that is.
22nd.
Project Giving Backstand.
Come and see the amazing work
they do
and come and say hello.
That's quite enough.
Farewell, darling.
Big kiss.
Goodbye, my love.
Goodbye.
Au revoir, everyone.
Bye.
Bye, knees.
Bye.
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