The James Donald Forbes McCann Catamaran Plan - Bowling Together

Episode Date: October 18, 2024

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How are you? I'm doing good. I'm actually working out. It's the first time I've worked out in one month, and I'm getting a phone call from you, which never happens.'s kind of uh that's true we're just in the group chat incredible turn of events well i've got so many people in this bowling group chat that it i just thought that would be faster to start going through the bowling group chat to fill up i was trying to do the podcast on my own this week and i couldn't do it i'm too present you really just lost steam

i'm literally i don't even have the technology to do this i'm holding the phone up to the microphone I couldn't do it. I'm too present. You really just lost steam? I'm literally, I don't even have the technology to do this. I'm holding the phone up to the microphone. It's so beautiful to have you here as a guest on the Jameson Sportsman Academy round plan. Do you have any exciting anecdotes, CJ? Exciting anecdotes? Just a pull out of my ass for your fans entertainment. Let's see.

Here's one. You got so good at bowling that's what i want to talk about we all went bowling together and then you got yeah you got too good at bowling you wrecked it i'm gonna be honest james it's uh it's kind of becoming a problem i mean you've kind of started this addiction and uh i have no one else to fault but you the first day i bowled you, you just made it so damn competitive that I'm like, I'm going to show this fucking James guy what American bowlers look like. You got so good at bowling. I've gotten good, and I'm serious.

I'm not even kidding. I've spent probably $200 on bowling in the last month and a half, and it's really become a problem. I was like stopping myself. I'm not even kidding. Before I went to the gym, I was stopping myself from going bowling seconds ago. I just hopped on the electric bike and just started trying to bike this in order to go bowling off me.

Oh, man, I understand it. Now, what's the best game you've bowled thus far with your new addiction to bowling? 196. Oh, you're going to crack 200 before you know it. I want to crack 200 so bad. Hey, who are the bowling boys that you got your eye on in the scene? I mean, Andre could get it together, lickety-split.

Well, Andre Ricks is really good. He's like, you know, he's a very talented black male, and he is incredibly good at bowling. I mean, you know what's weird? I've watched a lot of PBA videos, and there's not – I haven't seen one professional black guy bowler, which is kind of like – I mean, I I mean, I guess they, you know, they're too busy playing all the sports that matter, but I mean, it's,

it's really crazy that there's not, I mean, I have not seen one. I think he could do it. I mean, apparently his father bowled, his bowling technique is so beautiful. I mean, could you ever, could you get in, do you have Tony in your sights? Tony's I would say the number one, if For score, he's the number one bowler. Tony's definitely number one. Tony's been, I mean, he was a collegiate bowler. He has like, you know, he has three suitcases of balls.

I mean, you know, he's ready for it. He has a ball arsenal ready for any kind of bowling battle he can get in. But, you know, I think you're good at the sport you're built for. And he's definitely built closer to bowling ball. He's built for it. Tony Castillas. I mean, he's built for the concessions. He's built for the sitting around.

It is his type of thing. Not a lot of running. Brisket burger and a lemonade and a 250. Well, this has been an interesting experiment. CJ, thank you for coming on. You know the best bowler in the world is Australian. That's what people keep telling me. I'm not yet at the point of the addiction where I'm looking up the videos

and getting involved in the law. I'm in the bowling influencers. What's up, guys? What the fuck? Stay in the lane with Derek Paul. I can't tell you how beautiful it is for me to have changed a life, to have set a life on a different course. I mean, he's bowling.

I mean, they're good. These guys are influencers. I mean, hey, they made... I mean, apparently, like, the best bowler in the world, he makes, like, 200 grand a year. So they're all, like, they're all broke unless they get, like, TikTok famous. Very similar to a stand-up.

I think you can do both. I think it's time. You've got to have a bowling podcast. Oh, that's what I'm thinking. Let's ran together these two horrible salaries for careers. Let's make one bad salary. A $30,000 a year comedian and a $30,000 a year bowler. And yeah, I'd actually probably make a decent

living at that point. I believe in it. I don't want to be in it, but I think you... Fuzzy? John? You don't want to be in it? No, come on as a guest, but I've got too much going on. But you definitely should start the Bowling Boys podcast. I can help produce it. I'm a big believer in this. Now I'm going to let you

go. You work out. You enjoy. Excellent podcast appearance. Congratulations. Oh, sir. Thank you for having me on Now I'm going to let you go. You work out. You enjoy. Excellent podcast appearance. Congratulations. Oh, sir. Thank you for having me on. Can't wait to do it again. God bless you. Your call has been forwarded to an automated voice messaging system.

Hey, James. Luke, you're on the podcast. Great to have you here. What's up, dude? Yeah, I'm in a loose end. I just called CJ. I'm going through the bowling group chat and just trying to fill half an hour of podcast. Nice.

Dude, I walked into the mothership the other night. The first five people I saw, we just talked about bowling for like five minutes apiece. We're all obsessed. How much is bowling in the zeitgeist? It's our whole lives. It's really... It's one of the biggest factors in my life right now. It's one of the most important things to me.

What's your top bowling score? 137 the other day, and I was spinning the ball, dude. Oh, no way. You've been trying to spin the ball forever. No, you... Remember CJ taught all of us that now we're all amateur spinners.

Yeah, but now you're two two-handed spin in the ball? Two-handed spin in the ball. I don't have the forearm strength for a one-handed spin. I'm committed to the elegance that comes with a one-handed spin. I believe in it. Oh, Tony Casillas throws a one-handed spin. Dude, he moves like a gazelle out there. It's beautiful.

He's getting a call. Don't you worry about that. Tony's. He's getting a call. Don't you worry about that. Tony's going to be getting a call. Now, look, on a non-bowling related, have you got any fun anecdotes for the podcast? Is this your podcast now? You're just calling everybody else for material? Yes.

I need to fill up. It's Thursday. It was meant to come out on Monday. I just recorded one of me alone sitting in my, that's never going to come out. It was terrible. I just sound so depressed. This is the best I've got.

I don't have any time to get someone over and have a proper podcast. Now, your best anecdote, please. Listening back to a terrible solo podcast is so funny. It's like 40 minutes of you talking like, man,

this guy sucks. It's me, yeah, me listening to me alone, hating it the whole time. This will be great. There's no problem here. Well, I think, I don't know if I have any anecdotes, anything big that's happened in my life lately, but I've been thinking all these golf guys, because, you know, you're in Australia, man, but golf's big over there.

Absolutely, we love it. My buddies are kind of normie bros, and boy, do they love golf, and they love boring me to tears with golf conversation. Bowling's far superior. I think it's more communal because we bowl 16 deep. We have four teams of four at the lanes. It's more communal, and I'll say it's a very – it feels more of a working class – it's the working class man's golf.

Yes, actually. Golfing's for the bourgeoisie. Oh, yeah. When the revolution comes, the bowlers will be allowed to survive. But the golfers... Yes. We're essential.

Bowlers are essential. Bowling is so egalitarian, takes up so little space. The investment is not large. No, $14, they give you the shoes. $14, you just get to bowl all night. The alleys are small. It's not like we're taking up public housing like these evil golf courses.

Yeah, and you're part of the community. You get in there, and it's Texas electricians. It's plumbers. It's carpenters. It's guys who work with their hands. The barrier to entry for bowling seems a lot lower. CJ has managed to become really – i didn't talk about this as much with um cj's section of the podcast which has just been on but he went from being as good as me as

bowling to just bowling every day for two weeks and now he's almost bowling 200 like it's a really incredible i think golf it takes forever you gotta go to lessons you gotta buy clubs he just yes i'm becoming good and he got really good yeah you can you really feel self-actualized when you bowl because the learning curve isn't that steep like you said so you can become a decent bowler dude we're all spinning the ball going over 100 we're getting 120s 130s 140s we've been doing it for like a month that would never happen in golf if i golfed twice a week for five years i would still. If you don't start as a child or a Korean woman, that is a decades-long journey to getting anywhere. You need an abusive father from Thailand if you want to be good.

Let's do this as phone tags. Five minutes apart. We're coming up on the five-minute call. Who are we getting next, Luke? Who should you give a call to next yeah oh man who would be a good person to call tony casillas would be a good one tony's gonna be really good tony's good because tony's gonna have tips for you tony's an expert bowler he's really he's our ringer he's the best one we got all right i'll give t a call. I'll talk to you soon. Thank you, Luke. Hello.

Tony, you're on the James Donald Forbes McCann Catamaran Plan podcast. Great to have you here. Hello. I've just had – I couldn't do a podcast this week. I was too sad. And I've called a couple of people in the bowling group chat, and your name comes up over and over again as really top bowler so I wanted to yeah for the narrative it was necessary to have you on now okay um first off why are you sad oh I'm just a habitually sad you do a podcast alone and you talk into a microphone with no one there for 40 minutes it all gets dredged up I'll be fine

it's not a huge issue. Rule number one, when I'm ever feeling sad, you know what I do? I hit the lanes. I might need to hit some solitary bowling. Yeah, there's nothing better than that synthetic wood, the smell of the oil. You see a lady who's been bowling for like 65 years her arm is almost falling off and throwing thousands and thousands of balls and it just gives you the

sense of you know what's to come what has come it's so yeah i you know it did occur to me when we were bowling and you know everyone's bowling you look at all these couples bowling. I did think about how many activities are just excuses to watch a lady bend over. Be that bowling, be that pool. Shut up. All right, we'll move on. Bowler? No, no, shut up. Bowling's pure.

Bowling is pure. We are the most pure sport. All these other, you know, you see it with the NFL. NFL players beat their wives. They have sex parties. Yuck. Not in bowling. Is there no sex parties in bowling?

The thing is, if you saw the people in my league, you wouldn't want to have a sex party. And, you know, anytime I'm feeling like down, you know, anytime I haven't gotten laid in a while, I just go to my league and I look around and I'm like, it's okay. Well, look, I think you're beautiful out there. When I get to see your physicality hurl the ball down there, you're beautiful.

And Andre's going to have to get a call as well just because he bowls so elegantly. Well, I'm the hunk of the league. Why do you think I go? You're definitely the alpha. I'm saying you're. Yeah, I go to hunk of the league. Why do you think I go? You're definitely the alpha. I'm saying you're... Yeah, I go to be the belle of the ball, James. Now, what would you... To a young bowler starting out,

as the elder sage, a collegiate bowler, what would you say is the best thing a person can do? Let's not say that. You offered a collegiate scholarship to bowl. Is that correct? Yeah, like a partial scholarship. Correct.

So beautiful. What's the best thing I could do to get better at bowling? Other than when I'm bowling, what should I be trying? You gave me some great tips. Point for the arrows. Take your time. Honestly, number one, put a little money into it. Get your own shoes.

Get a ball. You don't have to buy the most expensive ball, but spend like $110 on a ball so that it fits your fingers. That's the biggest thing because those house balls, if you ever went bowling, the balls they have at the bowling alley, the fingers either fit a three-year-old toddler or a giant or Andre the Giant's hands. So just having a ball that fits your fingers is great. Shoes, it's always nice to just you know, the shoes fit you perfectly. And then honestly

this was a big argument that I got in with John Heft and Fuzzy because John is a very power bowler and Fuzzy's a more like... Very slow left to right, which is strange with the right hand.

Yeah, well Fuzzy's also criminally insane. But I agree with Fuzzy when it comes to don't focus on speed, focus on ball placement. I love it. Well, I'm going to do that. I'm going to head down to the lanes. Where would I go to? Is there a shop?

Is there a ball-buying shop? It's usually in the bowling alley. Yeah. Okay. It's called a pro shop. The guys that are there don't make a lot of eye contact with you, so don't be alarmed. It's just kind of like a pro shop normalcy.

They won't make a lot of eye contact, not a lot of chit-chat, unless it's about bowling. How much is a good amount to spend on a ball? How much is too much? How much is not enough? If you're starting out, get a little ball that can do a little bit of a hook. I would say

spend like $95 to $125. Alright. If that's what it takes. It'll last you years. Are they going to wax it for me on the way out? They'll wax it every time you come. It's a lifetime guarantee.

That's the thing, again, about bowling. That's better than the NFL. NFL, you break your legs, guess what they do? They cancel your contract, you're homeless on the street. They put a tarpaulin over you, they shoot you. Bowling alley, you never have to leave. They never... Dude, I slept in the back of a bowling alley for six years.

Tiny everybody, everyone's getting five minutes. That's Tony. Tony, everybody. Thank you. Have a good one. God bless, Tony. Your call has been forwarded to voicemail. The person you're trying to reach is not available.

All right. I've written to Andre. Hi, mate. This is James McCann from The Mothership. Do you have five mins? He said, yeah, what's up? I said, calling people in the bowling group chat to fill a podcast five minutes at a time.

He started to write back and then he didn't write back. We're going to try calling him now. We're just going to call. Try calling again. He didn't pick up the first time. Andre, welcome to the podcast. I've just got done talking with Luke and CJ and Tony. How are you?

I'm good. Are we on the podcast now? We're on the podcast right now. I'm just holding the phone up to the microphone. I tried to do the podcast by myself this week, and I couldn't do it. This is a last-ditch effort to get a podcast out. Gotcha. What's going on?

I've got to say, now, this has come up with a number of people so far on the pod by me. We've got to talk about how you learned to bowl. Everyone's talking about bowling. Your bowling technique, you weren't pulling down the numbers that some other people were, but your technique was easily the most beautiful. Where did you learn to bowl?

Well, first of all, I had the second highest score of the night. Yeah, that's true. But Tony did crash everybody. One time. I was averaging like 165. But the way you bowl looks like you should average 250. It's incredible. Yeah, Tony was also using a handmade ball.

I was using the house ball. I'm not here having a go at your bowling. I'm saying your bowling is great. I'm having a go at anybody doubting that I can out-bowl Tony. That would be, I mean, when we turn this into content, that will be the tournament version that I'm looking forward to. Perfect. I learned to bowl, my dad, my dad has been bowling quite a while.

He used to bowl in the leagues and stuff. I used to go watch him. And, you know, he would bring me around and introduce me to all the teams. And so I kind of got into it like that. And he's got a pretty smooth technique himself. He would bring me around and introduce me to all the teams. So I kind of got into it like that. And he's got a pretty smooth technique himself. He's actually rolled like a 296 before. Oh, that is – I can only dream. Yeah, 300 is the best you can do, obviously.

Well, and you have a single-handed bowl. How do you feel about these two-handed bowlers, the new school of bowling? Yeah, whatever works. Whatever works for you. It looks like, I don't know if it looks like less stress or more stress, but if it works, it works. I had to stop doing it because it felt like my arm was going to pop out, but I'm not very good.

I am going to go and buy my own ball. Yeah, give me one too so I can take out Tony. Are you ready? You don't have your own ball? No, I was using the house ball. I was using the shitty house ball. Yes, and that is fascinating. You got that close to Toby, and he's bringing all his own balls.

He's got his own shoes. He's got his own hand guard. That's what I'm saying. You're going raw and doing. Yeah, he rolled a 209. I rolled a 172 with the house ball. All right. We have to get you equipment that you can believe in

and have a proper competition. I would like to see it. I believe in me with a house bar. I think I can beat him with a house bar. Don't make this into a – this is pride. This is like someone going, I'm running a marathon barefoot just to show I can. You don't have to do that.

No, I don't, but I can. That's the difference. Do you have a podcast at the moment? No, no, I don't podcast. I'm trying to put together these bowling boys to have a bowling podcast. I think that would go very well. I don't want to do it personally. Sounds like work. That would be interesting.

I think it would be fun. I'd like to be a guest on it. How long was the hiatus? Because you said you hadn't bowled in a while. When did you – how long did you go between bowling? I don't think I bowled – probably a year or two, two years maybe. Wow. Without the visual, it's hard to communicate how good it is when you're bowling.

How are you finding being back? Bowling? Yeah. I don't know. It was fun. It was fun to do. I was definitely sore afterwards. I don't think I could do it, go as hard every week.

But, yeah, it was fun. No, the five games in a row is a bit silly. And also, too many people are coming bowling. We need to – there were like 30 people. We need more legs. Nope. It's a social event. Now, before you go, because I'm doing a five-minute podcast for anybody,

do you have any fun anecdotes? Fun anecdotes? What's your best anecdote? It doesn't have to be about bowling. Well, I once almost died in a forest fire in Northern California. I was in the middle of the fire. You watched someone die in a forest fire? No, I almost died in a forest fire. Oh, okayia i was in the middle of the fire you watched someone die in a forest fire no i almost died in the forest okay that's better okay i was in the middle of the

forest fire in the middle of the hills in northern california uh we survived but i know the guy that started the fire and uh you know for legal purposes i will not say his name but uh yeah i'm trying to grow some weed in northern cal northern California and almost died wonderful having you on the podcast Andre thank you for coming by a real joy talk soon yep hello Christophe how's it going hey Hey, doing good. How are you? Welcome to the James Donald Forbes McCann Catamaran Plan Podcast. You are a very respected guest on the air right now. Oh, nice.

Calling people who bowl. Oh, yeah. Big time bowler here. What has bowling done for you in your life? I think it's a nice thing to uh start at zero and progress it's very satisfying to think of the progress you've made because you can get better at it fairly quickly yes so that's nice have you had a zen breakthrough type moment an enlightenment moment of bowling of going oh i'm gonna i'm doing this now. I'm mixing it up. Yeah. So that's nice.

I think... No detail. No detail on it. No. What do you want? Yes. I was going to go down more lists. I was going to list more.

Okay. I mean, that's, you know, there's very few things... I'll keep going. There's few things that you can actively progress at. You get that fun kind of beginner's quick bump you know first it was breaking 100 and now i'm trying to be you know break the previous score of about what was it 138 i think you're 138 man that's where you're at 138 man personally so now now we're going after now the goal post has moved in a satisfying way.

And I'm trying to curve the ball. I'm looking at my own balls. It becomes... Oh, man, that's a weird... I'm there where it's like I don't even... Man, last time I was bowling, I was getting strikes. And people were going, yeah, man, well done. And I'm going, no, you don't understand. That wasn't what I was trying to do.

Like I was... I get very focused on what? You know, trying to curve it the right way. I make it spin like a top. It's a real problem. Yeah, I know. I think you put a little too much English on it. I think you've got to bowl it more overhand or underhand, rather.

I feel like I'm the only one with an embarrassing bowl. Everyone else is naturally progressing, and I look like a real spaz out there. I wouldn't, you know, don't get too self-conscious about your bowling. No one's thinking about your bowling more than you. I know, everyone thinks about their own bowling. Yeah, everyone's kind of solipsistic when it comes to bowling. I'm trying to get ladies who bowl, because we go bowling with women, just none of the women are answering their phones.

Oh, yeah, they're too busy. Do you have Genevieve's number? I do, yes, I do have Genevieve's number. Can you please send me Genevieve's number? But also, do you have any fun anecdotes about bowling or your life? What's your best ever anecdote for the podcast? Best ever anecdote bowling? You know, it's a nice, a fun thing.

One time I was bowling and I was eating chicken nuggets or something that I got at the bowling place. And this old man. All right, I'll be in in two minutes. Sorry, the dinner's here please go on please go on so i was bowling and i was eating chicken tenders or something and uh this old man came up to me and he goes what are you doing and i was like what he goes you're eating with your bowling hand is that not a thing and Was this an Indian man? Was he talking about the bowling hand?

They're all coming out. I'm sorry. Everyone else got five minutes. You're getting three and a half. I'm sorry. They're all coming out. I'm sorry. Everyone else got five minutes.

You're getting three and a half. I'm sorry. That's okay. Glad to be a part of the show. Love the show. Big fan. Love James. The funniest, the best. So glad to have you on the catamaran plan.

Please send me Genevieve's number. I've got to get at least one wonderful bowling woman on the show. Will do. Hello Oh I've called the wrong number Oh no worries I've called you back I was trying to call Genevieve Oh yeah yeah yeah

Call Genevieve Are you well? Yeah I'm doing good Isn't it nice to touch base again? Oh, it feels great. Yeah, I'll see you tonight. All right. I'm on at nine.

All right, see you later. Bye. Yeah, I'll see you there. Bye-bye. Hello? Hello, Genevieve. This is James McCann. How are you?

Hi, James McCann. I'm doing a podcast where I'm calling people in the bowling group chat. You're on the air. Oh, hello, air. If that's all right. Do you have any exciting things to say about bowling? Yes. If you don't have tennis elbow, it is the shit.

And even if you do, it can be even more the shit. Have you been bowling with an injury? I play a lot of racquetball, so I come with my elbow. So when I'm in the back making faces and beating myself up, it's because I'm really mad at my elbow. I didn't know that you were suffering this whole time. I'm having a great time, though. You went with racquetball.

I was thinking about pickleball, but is racquetball, is that a more interesting, is that a more sophisticated game? A little more intense than your average tennis or your average pickleball. Pickleball seemed too relaxed. I never even thought about racquetball. Yeah, so it's a racket that's kind of like a tennis racket, but it's shaped a little different, a little wider, a little more net And then less handle, more net

And then the ball is smaller and made out of rubber And it bounces really fast, really hard Makes weird noises Bounces all the way, you're in a cube But I'm told you're hurt You've been hurt by this I mean, yeah, sometimes you get hit Sometimes you're overhurt.

Sometimes you fall. Sometimes, you know. Well, I'm very impressed by your sticking it out with the bowling. I'm doing a... You should see me cook. That's real dedication. Now, how is the married domestic life? You got married very recently.

Yeah, very, very recently. It's pretty cool. You know, the arguments give us more pause. Like we fought over a foot more at TV. I love it. You told me about the TV fight. I love that. Yeah, that was great.

But you ended up getting the big TV, right? We ended up getting it, and he's happier than he's ever been with any other TV. That's very important to listen to the wife. I now have to go back inside to my wife who's dealing with the children. But I'm very glad I got to have you on the Catamaran Plan podcast, Genevieve. Well, it is fun. I will get a 200 one day. Believe it.

I mean, Andre got pretty close. CJ's like three off. We're all getting better slowly. Yeah. It just takes a little less, you know, elbow grease. Well, you rest up. Take care of yourself. Don't get a permanent injury from the bowling.

God bless you. I'll talk to you soon. No, it's worth it. Are you working tonight? Are you at the club? Yeah, I'll be performing. Oh, I'll see you tonight. All right, see you later.

Bye. Hold on. Now, this is the first one who's called me to be on the podcast. It's just been me calling everybody. Ruby, welcome to the pod. I'm calling in. Hi. this is the first one who's called me to be on the podcast. It's just been me calling everybody. Ruby, welcome to the pod. I'm calling in. Hi. Welcome to the pod.

Now, you're on the road. Yeah, kind of. We're falling to pieces without you. Ruby, you're a necessary component of the McCann family now. What do you want? Well, I'm just calling people and talking about bowling, all the beautiful bowling experiences. What have other people said?

I mean, mainly I ask people for their best anecdote. It doesn't have to be bowling related. Did you know that Andre had been in a forest fire? Andre the Giant? Andre 3000? Oh, Andre Rex. Yeah. One that we know.

Yeah. I could have kept going. I don't think you could. I think you were out of And know. Yeah. Yeah. I could have kept going. I don't think you could. I think you were at Andre's. Wait, Andre 3000, Eric Andre. Where are you going to go? Andre Rublev? Eric Andre.

Eric Andre's fear. Hey, what's your best anecdote ever? My best anecdote? No, I take it back. I don't care. I want to remind you of something. When we went bowling and you, I think you on stage, you come across as a little more spectrum-y than you are in real life.

But when we were out bowling. Unnecessary. I bet that's unnecessary for what you're about to say. No. It's unnecessary. It's very necessary for bowling. Lightly hurtful, highly unnecessary. I was taken aback by when we were all bowling together

and having a wonderful time and you looked over at a man who was bowling. Are you going to say that I act really normal? When we watched a man bowling with headphones alone, you said, oh, that's who I'd like to be. And that was a very autismal moment, I thought. Because during that night, I was feeling insecure over whether or not I was autistic because I was getting a lot of comments for whatever reason on my

videos that you seem autistic your face seems autistic stuff like that so the theme of that night was whether or not I was autistic and then yeah I did say that and then you said that was autistic. That was a very autistic thing to say but I don't look I don't think you're I think we use autistic too readily and

I think you're a welcome addition to the bowling troupe, and I'm proud to have you as a friend. When are you back from touring with the wonderful puppet? Well, the puppet thing is over, and then I went to Massachusetts, and now I'm in Boston for a memorial. Oh, that's right. We spoke about that. I might see you tomorrow.

Yeah. All right. God bless you, Ruby. Probably not, but maybe. I don't know. I'm about. Let me know. God bless you, Ruby. Probably not, but maybe. I'm about. Let me know. Is that really it? That's it? That's the whole segment? Yeah, we're just doing quick. It's very quick. I was doing

five minutes with people and now I've got it down to three. There's too many people to get on the bowling ball. I mean, how long can we seriously make a series of phone calls exciting? Where did this idea come from? I was trying to do a podcast alone and I was too sad and the podcast came out weird and wrong and I had to stop. That makes sense. Are you sad? Oh yeah. No, I'm doing great. I'm doing great. Are you on the road right now?

No, I'm back home. I'm going to Boston tomorrow. Is that why you're sad? Because you're leaving? Well, I'm trying to figure out how we... So for context, Ruby has been helping with the kids, everybody, and doing an incredible job. And I need to find a Hispanic who's on the payroll. Consistent help, yeah. Well, your career's blowing up and it's, you know... Yeah, with the puppet and everything.

I love the puppet. I'm a big puppet fan. Oh, me too. Big fan of the puppet. I don't know him. I'm shocked that he knows me. What a wonderful thing that is. Great.

I'm a known quantity. Well, but someday I'm going to have puppets opening for me. Well, good. So I just want everyone in the Tata Moran clan to know about that. Ruby Setnick, everybody, here. And we thank her for her presence on the podcast. Don't let that be the end of it. It's the end of it.

God bless you, Ruby. Have a good time. I mean, have obviously a her presence on the podcast. Don't let that be the end of it. It's the end of it. God bless you, Ruby. Have a good time. I mean, have obviously a solemn time at the memorial. And if you want to come to the match show in the evening, let me know. You probably can't. I don't know when the memorial is. I don't know how it all works. But we're praying for you and that person.

And God bless you. Okay, God bless you. Bye, bye, bye, bye. Do you want to try it again? No, that was funny. It was good. You just texted me delete that, and I took that at face value. It's how I felt in the moment, but it's your choice.

No, no, it's fine. Here on the James Donald Forbes for Cancadamaran plan for the first time, Ruby Setnick. Ruby, how do you feel about bowling? I feel good about it. I actually don't think I can do better than the first take. First take's already deleted. No, it's not already deleted. No, I didn't delete it.

Alright, you want to leave it? Yeah, leave it. Alright, God bless you, Ruby. Okay, bye. Hey, what's up? Welcome to the James Donald Forbes McCann catamaran plan. I'm joined by Fuzzy and we're talking to all the bowlers. Fuzzy, how are you?

Oh, I'm excellent, James. Thank you for having me on the program. I'm going to have to edit this out, but do you have your phone on you? Yeah, I do. You're talking into it. Who is... Can I get you to check a number for me? Because they were in the bowling chat, and I thought it was you.

I'd forgotten to save your number. Even though I had... Let's see. Let's had... Let's see. Let's see. Let's see. I wrote to them. I said, I just wanted to talk bowling from the pod. And they wrote back, what do you mean?

What do you mean? And it was someone who was in the first bowling group chat. Who was it at first? Oh, in the first group chat. Yeah. That's Christina Mariani. Oh, no. I'm sorry.

I thought... I have to break. I'm sorry. I thought this was fuzzy. Oh, man. That's embarrassing. That's the first interaction we've had for more than 10 seconds. Oh, no.

He was probably... I wanted to thank you. I just started calling people because I didn't want to do my own podcast today. And... And... Sorry, Christina, the thing has made me... And I called CJ and I called a bunch of people. I finally made it to you.

And I wanted you two to bookend it because we started bowling all at the same time. And it was a beautiful day that really moved me. And I wanted to thank you for bringing bowling into my life. And I wanted to, you know, also ask if you had your, what's your most fun bowling anecdote? Well, I want to thank you for your positivity you know things can get really negative when you're on the lanes and you're you're always a you know a beam of light out there your reinforcement it really helps you keep going after a bad frame I'm a personality hire the score isn't

contributing so I do want to I do want to thank you for that. My favorite bowling antidote Antidote? To get the bowling poison out. You know what? Forget bowling anecdote. What's your best anecdote ever? What's my best

anecdote ever? That was pretty good. Alright, here. My best... I was in a forest fire. That was pretty good. All right, here. My best. I was in Pakistan when 9-11 happened. Whoa, that's pretty good. Yeah, yeah. And they shut down.

It was the beginning of the school year. So the way my kindergarten class worked was your kindergarten class is also your first grade class right sure so you go two years together um so what happened was i've all the students had known me from kindergarten but then i missed the first month of first grade because I was in Pakistan when 9-11 happened and they shut down flights rightfully so right yeah for about a month and then when I got back to class after missing the whole first month of first grade everyone was like Fuzzy did 9-11 Fuzzy did 9-11 so that's probably I don't even know what an antidote is. Is that an antidote? That's an antidote.

That's an anecdote. Wait, now, what was the vibe like? I mean, you would have been a small child, but what was the vibe like in Pakistan during 9-11? Was there dancing? Yeah, it seemed like a happy time. I didn't know anything bad had happened. You know, because everything there seemed pretty business as usual. Other than organizing 9-11, why were you in...

Are your family in Pakistan? Is that what happened? My family's in Wisconsin, but they're from Pakistan. Yeah, yeah. So they were going back to... Man, why have the Muslims all landed in Wisconsin? There's a really good university there for medical students. So then they all go there to become doctors.

I'm shocked that there's a real answer. I'm glad there is. Yeah. Yeah, I know. I was curious for sure. Why would you pick a more desert-like climate, Arizona or something? Oh, it's the only cold Muslims in the whole world are in Wisconsin, as far as I'm aware.

Thank you for coming on the pod. Everyone's doing a short set on the pod. I think this is a good pod. Well, thank you, James. Well, let's bowl again soon. God bless you. Yeah, thanks for having me. Kevin Moran, hello.

See you, Fuzzy. All right. Thank you. I was doing the podcast on my own, and it wasn't going well, so I just started calling people on the bowling group chat, including one of them I went on the wrong bowling group chat, and I texted a woman who I don't know very well, get on the podcast to talk about bowling and she wrote back, what?

I thought it was fuzzy. Anyway, we've just figured that out. And you don't have to be on the microphone. My sweet wife, I'll do the exposition so I don't have to actually do proper exposition. You hate bowling. You hate all, I love bowling love all these people love bowling i thought that was interesting to talk to someone at the end you know these are all my friends who i'm bowling and then to talk to my wife my family who can't stand bowling i thought that would be an

interesting book and also we heard what they had to say but you also refused to come on the microphone so i thought that would be a fun um They'll just hear you dimly in the background. What is it about competition, do you think, that upsets you so much? You don't think that's fair? You don't think that's... Really? You can't play board games. I don't play games is like your catchphrase we played a collaborative board game last week where we were both trying to solve an exit room in a box together you can do that but competition when i took you i took you bowling with the sams

and the ladies in Adelaide. And you just kept coming over to me after each. You wanted to go. You wanted to hang out. Well, other people pitched it and you seemed to agree to them. I don't think I was pushing you to do it. And that's how I remember it. And then you were coming up to me after every frame going, I don't want to be here.

And you're doing fine. I said you want to be here. And you're doing fine. I said you had to? Well, sometimes a wife must obey. This is a great... No, I can't start it again. This is a great podcast. This is an insight into a very strange performative version of our marriage.

With only one of us talking, which is not how it usually works. I'll have people know. Competition's hard for you. Don't like competing with you. Do you think if you went to a bowling alley alone and you were just bowling for a PB alone, would you enjoy that?

Would you like to be... Because we need some ways for you to relax because this is that wouldn't be related to be focusing it'd be diverting i mean one of the things that i spoke about in the first podcast that i had to get rid of because it was just me on my own it was a lot of me shouting life's so hard it's hard. It's very hard at this point. Ruby's been on the podcast, so it was hard not having her here to help. I had a dream last night. What was the dream?

I had a dream last night. It was a lovely dream. Tay had a dream last night. She was walking around an art gallery. It was a lovely dream. You can talk into the microphone anytime you want no she doesn't want to

alright please go on yeah so you haven't walked around an art gallery alone for six years and you realize that if you were in that gallery the children were there

I have to relay something to the well look he's I mean I can definitely I was going to say let's get you bowling independently but if you'd like tomorrow oh I can't I'm flying away in the morning

all day I'm going to Boston but if you'd like when I'm back I guess I'm back on Saturday I can mind the kids and take them out and you can go to an art gallery on your own but if you'd like when I'm back I guess I'm back on Saturday I can mind the kids and take them out

and you can go to an alcove on your own if that's what you need in the dream would you like that? I think it's the least I can do for all the bowling time

that I'm taking which is not a huge amount of time it's usually when everybody's asleep I love you i'm so glad you don't well we can end the podcast now and go in and have a normal conversation together we'll have a bottle of wine and i don't have to be on the show until nine and then i might bowl on the way home and record myself bowling just for 40 but i can do that another time i can just have the video component

come out another time how's that i also don't know if the lanes were i don't also it's now a 40 minute podcast i would have to bowl that actually does sound pretty great that sounds like the right amount of time but i want to spend time with you time with you. I've got all these clothes to wash before. We're going to be okay. We're going to get through it. We are. Baby. Baby, we're going to figure it out.

I'm proud of you. Were there not curtains for this room before? No, we arrived, there were curtains for this room, but that shower curtain, that was me. And then I think when Ruby and Dan were staying here back to back, I'd bought the curtain, but there was no rod. But I subsequently did manage to buy a rod for it. Yeah, it's all coming together.

The studio. The bed. You don't like the bed being in the studio? No, it just changes the way I interview them. I have sex with them on the bed after we've done talking to one another. Look, we were pretty cramped when Matt was here and he was behind the lamp. I don't know if you saw any of that.

Yeah, it did pretty, it's weird that that's the thing that's done the biggest numbers on the podcast is doing a very bad job with Matt. I think people, yeah,

people thought I was trolling and actually, I just am incompetent. I'm trying to fly, Yeah, people thought I was trolling and actually I just am incompetent. I'm trying to fly with Sam Ant. Oh, Sam Clark. We just need all the... There are so many Sams that I'm trying to fly here at the moment. I'm trying to get Jack here.

Wouldn't it be nice? Wouldn't it be great? It would be just after the election. I miss... There's a lot of people to miss. wouldn't it be nice wouldn't be great it would be it was just after the election i miss we i miss there's a lot of people to miss oh look at you barefoot and pregnant we don't know that taylor is pregnant we don't we don't even suspect we don't even suspect at the moment that taylor's right i've just said that as a joke because she's got her feet on the bed.

Her dirty feet on our guest bed. Hasn't he done a good job with the Wimbledog drawings, which we're not sharing with people yet? Do the people know about Wimbledog? People know that Wimbledog exists, but they haven't seen that. I'm waiting for someone to get back to me with that one. Isn't it great? He's got a gift.

I've got to wrap this up. The longer this podcast goes for, the longer I have to bowl tonight. But I just want to say... No, no. No, no. This is, I think, resonant... I don't know what beer he'sant. Is he drinking a Coors? I don't know what beer he's drinking. A Cooper's.

Is it a Cooper's? That would be very thoughtful of Peter to have done that. Thank you for letting me bring a strange man into the house this week. He was great. You know, it was positive. Well, he was a stranger before we got to know him

by him staying here. And I think in general that's something I shouldn't do on impulse. But also Christian hospitality. You know. It's good. I'm very glad it happened. It felt right. You're always welcome to invite people to stay here when you're on a holiday.

Oh, yeah, that is true. We were gone for a lot of it. Oh man. I just don't know how we're going to... I don't know how we... We're going to be... That's where I always come back to. Just that sort of drowning.

That's what the podcast becomes when I'm alone is I just go... And someone said a piece of advice. Go bowling. is I just go, ah, what's going on, ah, what am I going to do? And someone said a piece of advice, go bowling. And I was like, yeah, I guess that's good. It doesn't actually fix any of my problems. It just makes me feel a little better. We have real problems. You should get a bicycle and ride it for three hours. I should get a bicycle and ride it for three hours. Well, we got that exercise bike and

I still haven't built that for you. It's just sitting in a box in our room. Yeah, but that that for you. It's just sitting in a box in our room. What, you're going to monopolize? I got it for you, but when you're not using it, I'd like to think I could have a little scoot around. All right, I will never get on your exercise bike. Oh, you're saying I'd be out of the house and not helpful no I do have to exercise we both have to exercise I'm not saying that it's a dick yeah will Yeah. Will you come with me on the boat? You let the kids come on the boat? Will you come on the boat? You can go on the boat. Will you come on the boat? I'd love you to come on the boat with me and the fam.

If I get in contact with the sailing of the vagabonder people and they say, you can come and sail. Why can't I go sailing with the... I would ask. They always have like a first mate. I was like, this could be fun content. Let me take my cameraman. We'll be there together. You'll teach me how to sail.

He'll film a lot of stuff and we'll do a journey together. What would be wrong with that? together you'll teach me to sail he'll film a lot of stuff and we'll do a journey together what would be wrong with that you think i'm not hot enough to hang out on the sailing with a vagabond about there's often a burly boy you think they swing you think that you we were once watching an episode and they had a new lady on who was a nice looking lady. And I think you said something like, a lot of these boat people swing. It's because we're watching the other boat families. Yeah.

And because the other boat families brought up the great thing about being a boat. Is you can swing. Is everyone's just swinging on the ocean. Well, we don't have to swing. I have no... I won't say I have no interest in swinging, but I have no intent that either of us swing. I want you to know that going into this boat thing.

The boat that did not rock. We'll have to figure out the flag that you need to fly to say. No swinging? What's the no swinging flag? It's just a cross. It's the papal insignia. Beautiful. I like that.

Yeah. That's a good one. What am I saying? That kind of international. Look at that. Off mic. Taylor with the dirty jokes jokes i had a rough one because i'm doing all these bits about going raw and leaving it in and i said uh i said like it's

my favorite kanye west lyric is go raw and leave it in and i was like no it's so good it's one of the only things a rapper could say that pope john paul ii could get behind and the audience went oh i was like no that's not a pedophile joke that's a no condoms joke and then I've had to like people just assume if it was about sex

and then you mention the Pope you're doing I was like no I'm talking about faithful Catholic social doctrine and you've all just had a couple of drinks

and you can't understand me I fixed it there was a lot of Taylor noticed when she went out to Wichita that there was a lot of Taylor noticed when she went out to Wichita that there was a lot

of anti-Catholic stuff which I maybe don't notice as much anymore having seen so much of it. There's also a lot of anti-Mus. Do you see any anti-gay or was it just Catholic

back to back? I'll tell you if I see any tonight. I'll tell you if I see any tonight Oh, Ahsan? Oh, I should definitely call Ahsan He's going to be so hurt that I didn't call him for the bowling I'm going to call him while you're in the room And I'm going to confront him about his hateful anti-Catholic

Oh, he didn't do any anti-Catholic stuff? I can't believe I didn to call him while you're in the room, and I'm going to confront him about his hateful anti-Catholic... Oh, he didn't do any anti-Catholic stuff? I can't believe I didn't call him. I feel like I... All right, this will be really quick, and then we'll go inside. And then that's the end. He might even be working. Then that's the end of the podcast. You should go inside.

All right, I love you. I love you, honey. No, I can't cut you a bit. That's integral. Hey, yo, what's up? Hassan, my wife was just reminding me that you were the only one who didn't do anti-Catholic comedy when she came to the mothership, and she was so proud. Anyway, you're on the podcast, very briefly.

Okay. And I'm just calling all the people in the bowling group chat, and you're the last one. Okay. Well, the last one I'm going to... So, how are you? I'm doing good. I'm just calling all the people in the bowling group chat. And you're the last one. Okay. Well, the last one I'm going to... So, how are you? I'm doing good. I'm doing good. You love bowling?

Yeah, but the time I'm with you guys is really important. I definitely want to go again. We will bowl again. Yes. Are you at the Mothership? No, I'm in Vancouver, Canada this weekend. What? Are you headlining?

Are you opening? What are you doing in Vancouver? I'm featuring for Duncan Trussell. Oh, so nice. Do you have any dates coming up you want to plug? Yeah. I'm going to be headlining San Jose Improv November 10th, Sunday, November 10th.

Sunday, November 10th. Is that the day after the election? No, the election, I think, is the second Tuesday. Okay. No, no, it's the first Tuesday after the first Monday. So I think it's like November 4th. It's Byzantine? The first Tuesday after the second Monday?

No, no, sorry. It's the first Tuesday after the first Monday in November. Well, I'm looking forward to it. Yeah, it's a weird rule. So it's like, if November 1st falls on Tuesday, then the election is November 8th. But any other time, it's the first Tuesday after the first Monday of November.

So the election won't have happened yet, or it will just have happened? It'll just have happened. We'll know who the president is by then. Oh, that'll be nice. You'll get an extra 10, 15 minutes. No trouble. Without even sweating. Yeah, I'm excited about what that's going to bring for me.

Congratulations for headlining. Congratulations for opening for Duncan Trussell. Give him my best. And thank you for closing out the inaugural. James McCann calls everybody in the Mothership Bowling chat group podcast. I'm glad I got to be the headliner of that. That's awesome. We're all moving up in the world.

I did actually, I forget to call you until my wife spoke. I felt bad that I was like, oh, man, this podcast is going for too long. I've got to end it. I didn't call everybody. But I'm glad. I think you're a good one to end on. You're an outstanding individual. All my love and respect.

Thank you for coming on. Thanks for having me, James. I appreciate it. You got any anecdotes? Do I have any anecdotes? Yeah, do you have any anecdotes you want to share before you go? If you're

yo if you're in Vancouver there is like this new digital media gallery that has a great great installation right now on Alfred Hitchcock so if you like that sort of stuff go there right now it's incredible it's like I know nothing

about Hitchcock and I got a tour from the curator of the museum, and it was one of the best art pieces I've ever seen in my entire life. Hell yeah. Oh. Yeah. I'm never going to make it to Vancouver, but that sounds excellent. Yeah, yeah.

Well, even if you're in Vancouver, the new media arts gallery at any point, he told me all the exhibits they've had because they have a rotating exhibit, and each one is insane. It might be my favorite museum ever. I've got to say, I don't think that's an anecdote, but I enjoyed hearing about it. Fuzzy was in Pakistan on 9-11. Andre was caught in a forest fire.

You know of a cool museum in Vancouver, but I still like it. I was in Disneyland when we killed Osama. That's a fun anecdote. No way, really? Yeah What was the vibe? Were people cheering and dancing? No, it was just weird

It's a weird place to hear news like that Yeah Were you fully bearded up at the time? I had a goatee at the time It was my freshman year of college I was just growing it up for the first time oh man and then you went on

Splash Mountain? no it was at the very end it was during the fireworks show so we saw the fireworks show and then I went home I talk about it on stage where you can see me September

November 10th San Jose Improv November 10th get down there God bless you thank you for coming on the podcast. Thanks for having me. Bye.

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