The James Donald Forbes McCann Catamaran Plan - Business Lounge ft. Samantha Winnicki

Episode Date: November 26, 2024

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Oh, so good. Sam. Hello. Welcome to the James Donnell Forsbican catamaran plan. Again, you were on an episode earlier that I got busy and forgot to edit and it never came out. I forgot about it. Did you? I don't remember. It did happen. It did happen. We were talking about the bird, how you made a viral marketing campaign for a bird charity. I think we just

talked about doing that episode and then we didn't actually, I know we did do that. No, we did. I just forgot you recorded it. No, I was, I think a child came along and probably disturbed what was going on there. Sam is in America. This is not a high fidelity Zoom chat. You're here. I'm here. Thank you for coming. Thanks for having me.

Boy, you've helped us out in a stitch. I got on the, Sam was my boss at several copywriting jobs. Yeah. And web design. I didn't do much of the designing. And then we've stayed friends and you've agreed to come out. You've been here for what? Two weeks.

Yep. Wow. What a time we've had. We went to New Orleans. You got to see Bucky's. We can unpack it all. It was so nice to show America to an Australian and to see it again through foreign eyes.

I think Buc-ee's was maybe the most like awesome, terrifying experience. Yeah, you went nuts. I don't know. Yeah, you were, it looked religious. You went very wide eyes. It felt really, I think at one point I like put my hands together.

Your hands came together, yeah. You were walking around with prayer hands in Buc-ee shoes. We should explain. It is a gas station. I didn't know what to do with myself. What is it that when you, so we got into the Buc-E's, first thing you did was you wanted to embrace the brass statue of a, is it a beaver? Yeah, it's the beaver. And I don't think I really knew what was, it was like 1 a.m. We had just come back from our first NBA game. Man, how? Yes. I loved the NBA, which was incredible. And I think we we bought tickets because my friend said,

please go to the NBA. Shout out Jared, Jared, who wanted so badly to go to the NBA and was watching television while we were there. Yeah, no doubt. Understanding it on a much deeper on television while we were there. No doubt understanding it on a much deeper level than we were. Yeah, we were just, I don't know. I was there going, that guy looks like Waka Flocka Flacka. That guy looks like Vince Staples. So it was 1am, we were driving back from San Antonio back to Austin and you said we've got to go to Buc-ee's and I said,

okay, I guess. I tried to get us into Buc-ee's on the way there No, I think the right choice was going. Yeah, we were all exhausted So you get in you see the statue first of all, it's huge. Yeah, it's huge And I was like, this is ridiculous this gas station is massive. Yeah, look, there's a statue of a guy That seems pretty Disney to me it. Yes. I you saying this, that it was Disneyland to you. It was the closest thing to Disneyland that you've been to outside of Disneyland. Disneyland, Japan.

Yeah, because I think it's like, I was thinking about this this morning, Bucky's feels like someone went to Disneyland and was like, I can do this with a gas station too. And then they did it. All right. But let's pause that out. Okay. Sorry.

So having a mascot, that's number one. Yeah. Happy staff members. That's also nice. Happy staff members. You go in and I feel like everyone greets you here. Yeah. But in Bucky's they're like onto it.

They see you come through the door. There's so much greeting. Yeah. And they're like so happy to have you. We bought that wrapping paper and the woman was like, wow. I never saw that wrapping paper before. I didn't know we had it. And I think it was just every piece of merch.

Yeah. You bought a lot. I bought. You bought a lot. I think I spent most of my money at Bucky's. All your souvenir dollar went through Bucky's. Yeah. You bought the wrapping paper.

You bought several, um, you bought several nationalist Texas shirts and a Don't Mess With Texas hat and a Don't Mess With Texas sticker. I think what's important to know here is that every time I told people in Australia that I was going to Texas, I don't think anyone believed me. It's I had I have sort of forgotten how reticent I was to come over to America because of my thought of what America would be like. We would you know worry about getting shot. Yes. And we should be. I mean on your first night here with the gunshots did ring out and I had failed to warn you that that was a fairly regular occurrence in the neighborhood. Yes. So my bad. That's okay.

Um, but you were so tired. You said you almost slipped through it. Well, I heard it. And then I was like, I guess so. I mean, it's, I think, yeah, we've got to roll with the, you've got to roll with the punches. I'm here now. I think it's multiple people in the neighborhood shooting off.

And also, I think this is just our neighborhood. Other people I talked to in America are like, that shouldn't be happening. It's very hard to know what is, what is not and what is just to be accepted. Cause a lot of it is not. I think because like my conception of America, as soon as I had landed was that that would just be happening all the time. I think I heard it. Yeah. And then I think I heard it and I was like, yeah, okay. I guess so. It's good. It lives up to the expectation. I'm trying to remember what else you bought you bought. I've got an apron Yeah, apparently wearing the Dirt Mess with Texas t-shirt

I bought pepper spray for my wife at Bucky's Recently to make her feel more safe. What I mean the food was great the salsa was fantastic. Salsa was great I got a Bucky's hot sauce. This we did now the we okay I don't know where to start. We'll just do it a Bucky's chunk off the top to let people know. It's in all it's like in Australia we would have like a Kmart it's huge it's a they sell so many things food Food, snacks, drink, you can warm up your coffee, the restrooms are beautiful. Uh, but on the way back from New Orleans, which is the second thing, second part of the trip, um, we passed the longest drive-through car wash in the world. Yeah. It was kind of hard to tell how long it was while we were in it because you can't really see out of,

do you know what I mean? I don't know why I expected it to be like a ride. Yeah. It was a bit of a, it was a ride. There was razzle dazzle. Yeah. They were projecting lights on the car. The wax came in different Bucky's colors

so that the windows, do you remember this? Like one side of the car was red and one side was blue and it was like a Romanian flag all over the car. It was beautiful. It was beautiful. But the length of it, it was hard. We didn't really know how fast we were moving through it. Yeah.

And you couldn't see out. So the length didn't, it's not like it took extra time. It wasn't the longest. It didn't take extra time. I would say that was shorter than other automated car washers like Beam II. But it was definitely the length of it It did take an extra time. I would say that was shorter than other automated car washers I've been to. But it was definitely the length of it that made me go...

And we didn't get the Six Flags so I went, well I'm gonna go on one ride. Sorry. Well it's 10.15am. Look, if we have to go to Six Flags... Nah, we're not going. No, we're not going to Six Flags. We're not making it to Six Flags. We meant to make the Six Flags the first week you got here. I will... Maybe I'll start here. Maybe I'll start here as we enter minute seven of the podcast.

Sam arrived and one of the many reasons, it was so nice to have you here, was that we were sort of falling apart. We were all over the place. It's hard with the kids and atomization, all these things. You're a good friend. You said, I will come, I will be helpful. That was so kind. And boy, the first three days, everything,

I did my back on a swing. I came back from Washington, had a lovely time in Washington, did my back almost immediately. And also lost my AirPods. And I do wanna say, it was because I went on the swing. I was having too much fun on the swing.

You think I wouldn't have gone on the swing otherwise. And you said, that looks like a lot of fun. Yeah. I tried to jump off the swing. Which that was me. You think I wouldn't have gone on the swing. And you said that looks like a lot of fun. Yeah. I tried to jump off the swing. Yeah. Which that was me. You didn't do that. I don't think. Yeah.

I do feel like that. I was, I made an innovation. Yeah. So that was a mistake. That was a mistake. And then I realized my AirPods had fallen out of the case. So the next day we had to go. Yeah.

That was a low day for you. Found one. You did. And, uh, so I had to go and buy the other one. We got to go to the mall. That's great. And I, but I feel like you were let down by the mall. And right. We actually do malls really well in Australia. I think that that did feel like maybe not one of the best malls,

but I did have a really nice conversation. Not one of the worst malls, not one of the, no, those small town malls where they're sinking into the ground. I think the mall was more impressive from the outside. Boy was it. We don't have malls, that car parking situation where it fully surrounds it. Yeah. Strange.

Yeah. Like all the entrances look the same There were three different exits to the I believe it was possibly the JC penny section Was it the JC penny? So it was another it was Macy's. Oh, it was the David Jones one Yeah, Nordstrom yeah Nordstrom had three different exits so we came out and then we had to continue walking around the car a lot. I'm not good at this. Here's how I find the car. I try and feel in my heart, uh, dread and which direction the dread is taking me. And that guides me to the crappiest car and the parking lot. And that's always my car. So the way that I normally find my car is

I take a photo of it. That's smart. Yeah. And then you don't have to feel it. It's more reliable. Yeah. Yeah. I have no big issue with that.

That's tip number one. What did we, so that was, I felt like that more was a turning point in the trip. I was not as disabled after that point. No, you were feeling much better. I was able to move a little bit. But Six Flags at that point was like, we'll have to do that. Today is the day that we've scheduled for Six Flags. I don't think we're going to Six Flags.

It's okay. But we switched it up and we went to New Orleans. Yeah. It's the best city I've ever been to in my entire life. That's huge. Yes. I can't think of a better city. I think once we got to French Quarter and we just got out and we just, I think we took

like, I don't know, it took us like two minutes to get from the car park to like the bit. Right in the throbbing heart of the French Quarter. And I think just looking at everyone and I have a good photo of everyone, just wide-eyed, just like staring. How you felt about Bucky's, we felt about the French Quarter. Yeah, which is like, it's kind of like the same. It's alien, it's huge,

it's incredible that it's been allowed to happen. Beautiful, and like just, like, you can just walk around, I don't know. It's so old. I know. It's out of, there's very few words that one can have for the French Quarter. I'll tell you, I loved it so much. I was looking up, living in the French Quarter on the first night. I didn't tell anybody this because I was looking it up and the day we had driven over but not on Thursday, several people were shot in a drive-by shooting in the French Quarter. And that was after the first day, I was like,

ah, everyone seemed pretty happy out there. This does happen semi-regularly, but it's a big French Quarter. Let's not- Were we around there? Yeah. Oh. Yeah, it's just someone just drove by and popped off.

We were all like, we walked the whole French Quarter. You kept that such a good secret. Thanks, I appreciate it. I just didn't want to allow me I was like well we're going back to the French even if we know about the shooting yeah the morning the next morning you like should we go back yeah we were like I'm ready to get shot I was ready to die in New Orleans great man I tried to do comedy last night about I got up and I did 10

at the club and it was just I didn't have anything to say I was just just, ah, just New Orleans. And the best I could do is like, it's so nice. I want to live there even though it's obviously like murder capital. I think it's absolutely one of the most like beautiful towns I've ever been to. And it's just like the buildings. I think it's like the textures, right? You love the lamps. You can walk around the lamps. You went nuts for the lamps. Because like, I think it's like all the details, right? Yeah. You can have a lamp that lights up and it's fine. Yeah. A little fire? A little fire. A little fire and it moves around and it's not like doing too much. No. It's not getting in the way. But it feels real. It's so nice. I, when I went, I did, it's a big chunk of a previous

video I did for the podcast about going to Bentonville Which is where I first saw them. Yes, and they had the lamps there. I was like Yeah, they're just not in most places in America and also Washington they're all like the richest people in Washington They've all got those lamps. That's the ultimate status symbol Yeah for wealth in America is like the Beltway and elite corporates. But then the fact they've also got them in New Orleans, which is not by any stretch, the richest place in America. Yeah. I mean, thinking about like this thing of like, uh, the difference between like luxury

and expensive. Nice. Thank you. Yeah. But like, I feel like we've made luxury and expensive the same thing. Yes. So like Washington, those lamps, expensive houses, feels very luxurious and expensive. But New Orleans just felt luxurious. It just felt luxurious. Yeah. Not particularly expensive. I don't think this is a, I think Australians make this differentiation better than Americans.

Really? Well, they don't up shop here. people don't really so if you're poor you just even if you're poor or rich you seem to just wear different versions of the same tracksuit but there's even like alternative people there's a big enough like alt scene where if you're really if you're rich and you're in the old thing it's like oh I'll wear the odd future sweater or something like uh like whatever Gorman has done for one segment of ladies has been done to the entire segment of the alternative scene as best I can tell yes and I don't I think what proves how much better how much less frequent the thrift shops are is how cheap everything is there in the op shops

Oppy Oppy the goodwill I mean one good word for it secondhand stores everything is there in the op shops. Oppy, the Goodwill, one good word for it, secondhand stores. Everything is cheap and the choices are way better. Yes. I got an amazing jacket. It says Frito Lay on it here. Yeah, you were very happy with your Frito Lay jacket. Oh man, I went for a walk and I just found an op shop like what, 10 minutes from here. Frito Lay jacket, it's got like a fur collar. It's like incredibly like sewn together and then it has this bloody Frito-Lay.

I remember when we passed the Frito-Lay truck, which I didn't even know existed. Yeah, I thought maybe I could get on it. Maybe I can work for Frito-Lay. What a life, what a life if you just come to America and I just came to visit a family. But yeah, I'm now working for, I'm the Frito Lay CEO. That's how I started as an illegal immigrant. I think you can have dreams here, you know.

I don't think I've ever had a Frito Lay. That's a chip. You've had it. You've had Lay's. Oh, is that Frito Lay? Yeah. Oh, I've absolutely had Lay's chip. Yeah. The very thin ones? Yeah. The, uh, the thin, they're not tingly.

Yeah. Oh, light and tangy is one of the... It's weird that no other company started doing light and tangy. Because like everybody does a salty bean. Everybody does a salt, everybody does chicken, everybody does barbecue. But only they do the light and tangy. That's a good... I wonder if they even have that in America. That's my second chip for sure. What's your first one?

Salt and vinegar. Oh yeah. Oh man. Yeah, I feel like light and tangy is like salt and vinegar more seasoning. I have a problem with light and tangy because they're too easy to eat. And I will just go full handful.

And it's like just eating some sort of weird powdery potato monstrosity. I'm trying, well now what did we see? We stayed in a great shotgun shack. I didn't think that was going to work. No, neither did I. Yeah. But I think we, well now what did we see? We stayed in a great shotgun shack. I didn't think that was gonna work. No, neither did I. Yeah. But I think we worked it out.

It was so beautiful. No one said it at the start when it was three rooms connected to each other. Aww, I looked at your life and we were like, hmm. Oh. We just had a quiet... Yeah, it was like, I think we had to pick which room. And it was, you had to walk through the kids room to get to the bathroom. Yeah.

It was a problem. We worked it out. It was fine! Yeah. It was a problem. We worked it out. It was fine. Yeah. It was astonishingly fine. Long-term, No. Huge problem.

I think you'd have to use the, you'd have to get the outdoors You'd have to move that shed that was in the way. Yeah. Yes. Oh, we got to go to the Latin Mass. I got to catch eight minutes of mass. Yeah, it was great.

It was hard with the kids and there was a- When you got in there, you really focused in there. I had a beautiful- Yeah, it was great. It was so beautiful. That was the first time I've been to Latin mess How was it? All the Latin mass listeners will be thrilled to hear great The only real mess that I've been to before is Pentecostal church, okay, really the the main the main equivalent that I can kind of draw. No, it was really nice.

I was getting quite run down at that point. And so I went in feeling quiet and well. And James was like, you go in, just go in, just go in. I was like, are you sure? I thought someone should get to enjoy it. No, it was beautiful. How good was the shell on top of the- Yeah, what is that shell about?

It's some sort of Marian thing. It's great. That like Mary is a- He's a pearl in that shell. Yeah. They use, I know for baptism, they'll have like sometimes a special shell that looks like that shell.

And they, yeah, I loved it. I'd never seen that, a shell of that size in that position before. It was huge. It's a big shell. And then I was outside for a lot of it with my kids until the middle one was able to get it together. And there was a man, I didn't know he was a, it turned out he was a priest. I saw the collar eventually but he was like, he just looked

like the most New Orleans guy ever. He had like sunglasses on, a big hat, he was in a rocking chair having a cigar. And then when it came time for like the bit where they needed help doing communion, he like finished his cigar and walked in and helped. But it's like that, that's what I'm about. That's my politics is that. That was beautiful. The incense.

Smells of bells. Great. It's great. The singing, all the melodies were the same. I'm sorry that I didn't get to go more often I'm sorry. We don't have something like that in ah man. It was cool. I Wanted to okay. We're 18 minutes in so we've we've look No, no, no, we've got to keep going for a long time

It's important stuff to talking about but I think that's enough of the fair weather people gone that I can really now hunker down and talk About Australian politics with you. Okay, because I'm not talking Australian of the fair weather people gone that I can really now hunker down and talk about Australian politics with you. Okay. Because I'm not talking Australian politics very much with people. Great. And you don't have to expose yourself in any way. I know that since you've been here, you want to blow up abortion clinics and get yourself a gun.

You've been talking about that nonstop. Yeah. I won't shut up about it. She can't be stopped. People like, maybe that's not the way to say it. There is a sense that Peter Dutton is not a massive go's not the way to say it, there is a sense that Peter Dutton is not a massive goober in the way that he was a year and a half ago. Something's happened to Peter. Peter's gotten his groove. I don't even

want to say he got it back. He never had a groove. Peter's got a groove. Well I think whenever I think of Peter Dutton I always think of that Voldemort photo where he's like... Terrible photo....lip in an awful an awful awful way should have been the end of his career and He's done something and I think it was like it was at the point where he was like we're gonna go nuclear Yeah, nuclear power And then he's gone also, I'm a cop and I'm a dad and I'm from Queensland you said these were the trifecta I had a nuclear that I think that's what he's like Putting his personality on because Albert did the same

thing before the election except he was like, I'm a dad, a DJ and cool. I don't know. Then there was some other weird stuff like the marriage is falling apart. Oh yeah, that was weird. I'm throwing my son into the quanta slouch. Yeah. Okay. I'd like to start there.

This, I don't understand from afar. This makes me really, I get fired up about this. So since I've left Australia, there's been a big, ah, how to first explain it. I want the Americans to come along for the journey. Qantas is a, it has been semi-owned by the government for some time. I don't know how much the government

owns Qantas at the moment. But they have longstanding relationships with Qantas. It's like the spirit of Australia in the way that a third world country would have like the airline. Well, spirit of Australia, I think is their like brand line. Yes. It's their brand. Oh, it's a brand. Yeah. You just like, that's just been like so. Oh yeah. Yeah. It integrates like when you think what is, what is white upper middle class, um, international, like what do we think of ourselves? It's Qantas. Well, yeah. When I was a kid in school, I don't know if this ever happened to you, they came

over and, uh, like a choir had us audition to be in. I was the wrong age. I was, yeah, you're a bit younger than me. I know a girl who got it. I know a girl who got it. Kendra. Yeah. And like everyone has a story like this of like all these kids having to like audition

to sing in the choir that was in the Qantas ads. I've been to cities that never flow down. I got selected and my parents didn't want me to do it. Are you serious? Yeah. You got the call up and didn't want me to do it. Are you serious? Yeah. You got the call up and you didn't get to do it? I got the tap, I got the tap. Oh.

Cause they tapped you on the head. What? Yeah, they like, so they like, everyone had to sing the song. Yeah. And they like, would like come up and listen to you with like their ears. Oh, man.

And you would like sing your little angelic voice. And if they gave you the tap you were in? They would give you a little tap on the head and they you were in. And they would like give you a little form to fill out. They'd be like, do you want to do this? I can't believe you didn't get to go in. I know.

If they'd known what that ad was going to become. I know. You could have had that for, I mean, you would have had to what fly to Dubai or something. You could do it with green screen now. Yeah. Have you seen Mums vs. Dads by Sam Campbell? No.

I think he's making fun of that. Sorry, Sam. No, no, no. It's a great one to share. But it's like, it has the similar aesthetic where he's dressed up like one of the kids from that. Oh, that's great. Oh, man.

That's nuts. Well, that sort of, that's not a bad description of quantus for, if you think of like pristine singing children in the 90s, like it's so, it's not upper class, right? It's not rich. It's not like a luxury. It has luxuries, but it's like, this is what Australia is meant to be. This is like baby, respectable baby boomer. Things done excellently. Older flight attendants, but they're dressed so nicely and they're so crisp. No corner has been cut. They're doing it right. Well, I mean, my family immigrated from Poland. Yeah. And they like the most patriotic thing, the most Australian patriotic thing we ever did was hang out in the frequent flyers.

Oh, okay. This is vital. This is vital. They have three lounges So you were in the pleb lounge and you're congested at any point need to blow your nose I know you can just before you got the water. You seem fine. You seem like you're doing great. I'll let you know Thank you. There's the lounge for the frequent flyer people then there's a like business lounge, which is smaller than that But inside the other lounge and then there's a third lounge inside of that of unimaginable luxury I think it's called the Chairman's lounge but I keep I the other lounge and then there's a third lounge inside of that of unimaginable luxury. I think it's called the Chairman's Lounge. The Chairman's Lounge. I think it's called the Chairman's Lounge. Okay but it's invitation only. You can't fly enough to get in there. They have to invite you. They have to invite you. And they invite like

politicians and things. So this is like this is blown up into sort of a scandal. Everybody knew this. Every private school boy knew this. I didn't know that other people didn't know this. That, yeah, like they're picking and choosing who gets, like this is, it's also a business. They're running to make a profit. And there are some pretty unscrupulous stuff going on at Qantas with like firing people and service being bad

and like charging people for flights and not giving them their refund when they cancel the flight that they knew they were gonna cancel. But then like to avoid prosecution and to have a hallowed state and because the only way you can get around in Australia, you know, meaningful ways on a plane, if you're in business, like we don't have a high speed rail. One of the reasons is because Qantas might be paying people off. Yes. But Qantas gives you the favor of a nice business lounge if they want to curry favor with you

And this is now a scandal like this is they shouldn't be doing people shouldn't be accepting upgrades from Qantas which happens all the time. Yeah So this is what upsets me about I'm sorry to go on a rampage. I'm sorry Do people really think that our politicians shouldn't be allowed to fly business class like what's the point of even trying to get ahead? If you can't have the bigger chair Excuse me. I'm done. That was the only point I wanted to make Well, I think I think like Pauline Hansen. Yeah, she always flies economy or something She's a battler. I don't want to I don't want to make things up there There are definitely some politicians who make a real point out of

ifly economy Man because I'm one of the people I'm one of the people yeah But Qantas whoever is in power they basically go well you can be in the Chairman's Lounge You get the most beautiful flights, but it's like so expensive to buy a ticket to get into Chairman's Lounge Yeah, it's basically like a political donation to give them those tickets. Okay. But there's rules around like what a political donation is and that's why, allegedly, Qantas is so successful. They caught... well, look, it's nuts, right? Like it's a crazy situation. I do hope they shut it down.

But then the people who've... like both sides of politics are getting it. Both soft left and soft right. Well yeah, I think this is the thing that happened with Albo, who's our Prime Minister, was that someone wrote a book outing him as having the Chairman's Lounge tickets. And he was like, yep. I'm the Prime Minister. That's true. But then everyone else started dropping like flies

and going, you know, so do I. Like, this is, everyone's getting's getting them. Everyone's getting them. I do need to put them in. Not you and I. That's all right. You blow your nose over there and I'll keep talking. We could edit it out, but we're keeping it earthy and real. I mean, like, just in other countries, the leader of the country gets a private plane. Like I'll talk real loud to cover the nose blowing.

I knew the nose blowing was coming. I could tell. Trump gets a jet, you know? Like, don't we want, like, isn't there a level of security and efficiency and waste that we're happy to have when you're just at the top level of running the whole country? I think, you know what this kind of somehow reminds me of? Do you remember the jewel passport thing that happened? Yes. It kind of reminds me of that because I think they were like, they kind of got someone the

first time being like, Oh, you can't be a politician because you got two passports because you can only be a citizen of one country. It blew out like eight people had dual passports. It was like so many people. It's like every day it was like a new person who just had to leave politics because they had two passports. Do you know the moment that veered into for me, the most interesting territory was when Josh Frydenberg started to get grilled because you can't be eligible for another country.

Like if you can immediately just get a dual passport for another country, you're not meant to be eligible either, but he's Jewish. So at any time that he wants an Israeli passport, he can just get one. And people are like, does this law say, I think it says that Jews aren't allowed in parliament. And people are like, oh, we should stop digging. I don't remember this. I just remember it went away after that point. Yeah, I remember it disappearing at a certain point

because I think it was like, it was getting to a point where it was like so many politicians. Wholesale reform. If you are a politician, you are just made ineligible from now on from getting anyone else's passport. We give you a special politician passport. I don't think we pay our politicians enough to make them not corrupt. I love the Singapore model of like, you're getting a million dollars a year, you're getting everything you want, no one can buy you. Because then you can do the right thing by the country. Maybe there's no limit

to the depravity that these people can go to and be bored. But the fact that you don't have high speed rail in Australia. Yeah, it's pretty bad. It makes me so angry all the time and Qantas is so expensive and every other airline is so bad. It takes so long to get to the city from the airport. Oh yeah. With the exception of Adelaide where you can't that you don't even have to get a

special bus. You don't need a sky bus. You just get on. You pay, you know, 470. Oh, it's just there. Yeah. It's just there. Yeah. Melbourne airport though. It's also where there's not a lot of drone photography in Adelaide is because the planes. It's also where you have nice buildings. Yeah. Cause the airport's right there. We're so proud of that. Yeah. It's one of the main things. Melbourne's a mess. You gotta get on that huge runway that goes for, you have 35 minutes to get to the city. Yeah.

Sydney has that weird long train, which I do like. That train is good. I love the train. It costs a bit more, but it's great. Yeah, but double decker train. Yeah, the double decker train is good. Pulling into circular key on the double decker train. You can move the chairs around.

You, I see you're just desperate to get to this chair moving around. No, no. You you I see you just desperate to get to this chair moving around. No, no, I could tell I could tell we were in a cable car in New Orleans in New Orleans and a bridal party of lovely great big black ladies. I think I can say that that's an app description from the south. They were from Alabama. Roll time! They didn't say that, but they clearly loved Alabama. Yes. And Sam had moved her, the back of her cable car chair so that she could sit back. I'd actually moved it and sat you down backwards, I think.

Yeah. I don't know what happened. I was gonna sit backwards. No, that was you. I was gonna take the blow and sit back. I didn't want to sit backwards. No. And then you jumped in there and you sat backwards. Yeah, I'm fine with sitting backwards. I like to see where we're going but this lady saw you and was like how have you done this like we just moved and she was like what and then someone helped her

move it she was like well she almost fell over trying to move it the queen of them like you've never seen someone so satisfied to have a different chair to all of their friends. She was a very happy. She was so happy. And then there was a lady who talked to you about Australia and you did not help her feel better about coming to Australia. He's better. You made her feel like her fear of spiders was more rational, was not irrational. Well, she, she was like, I won't go to Australia because I'm scared of spiders. And I was like, let me tell you, I believe that all spiders one day will come together for one big spider and kill us all. So I'm quite scared of spiders. But then you did follow it up with, but I live there and I'm still alive. I think you gave her good advice about shaking

her shoes out and not leaving shoes outside in Australia. Yeah, which you should just not, you should not do. And then what never makes people feel better is to let them know, and this is what I did and I regret it, that she's like, they're big spiders. You go, yeah, but they're not the ones that get you. They're big spiders. They just look scary. It's the little ones that'll kill you.

It's the red bag. Yeah, we did tell her that. We did tell her that. It was maybe a mistake. She was so happy. We got to go to the casino. We got to walk through Caesar's Palace. Yeah, that was something.

Yeah, you didn't have a great time. I had a great time in the casino. I was having an okay time. I think I just, I just like, I get, when I go into a casino, I get a bit blinded by the lights. It's a lot. And then you immediately get lost. I don't think I told you when I because I went to pay I went to play craps like one thirty bucks. I

Came out of the bathroom and I was like, I've got no idea where this man is Did you get lost on the way? I was standing next to the restaurant I Thought I had a long time at the craps and then I found you. Yeah. Yeah, I was having a great time Cuz I just hadn't know I no idea once I got stuck in um crown casino in Melbourne. Oh, no that I was 30 minutes trying to get out. I couldn't do it the accent Yeah, just chatting with people at the casino and at the tables the accent it takes you to far. There's almost there would be things you couldn't get away with but I fair I What I'm allowed to get away with

with an accent in public spaces in America is crazy. Like getting into areas you're not meant to go, oh, I didn't know. I don't even try and hammer it up too much, but people are just like very helpful to Australian. Yeah, just like you just gotta like ask and just be like, I'm so sorry, I'm not from here. Yeah.

I don't speak your language. I don't know what's going on. I'm a big I'm a big I'm a big silly stumbling around the streets of New Orleans. Wow have you got a gun? You into Bucky's? I had a sandwich it was real nice brisket. Oh man what else have we- We've done so many things. You saw Walmart. Now Walmart was overwhelming.

Walmart was... huge. Yeah, but not a happy place. I would say. Did you find it to be a happy- Maybe it wasn't too bad, the one we took you to. We took you to more of a Spanish Walmart. Oh, was that a Spanish Walmart?

Nah, it's just like in East Austin, so there's more Hispanic people there, and they seem like more together than some of the other Walmarts I've seen. No, I mean, it didn't seem like a happy place. It was very like, and I think after we went, because we went to the HAB as well. Now HAB you did like. HAB I liked. I think because Walmart, it's, it's just too neat.

Yeah. And I think that was like, not that we're comparing Walmart to New Orleans because they're not the same thing. I did not see one Walmart in New Orleans, and I don't think that's a coincidence Maybe there is a Walmart in New Orleans. There must be I think I saw a Walmart in New Orleans. Did you? Damn! I'm sorry. It's fine. Rouge's is a great supermarket. We've got pickled eggs But no one else wants to eat. No, we'll make a salad Make an egg salad. The ingredients are eggs, salt, vinegar, and red.

Two kinds of red. We got red 40 and red 30. That's what really got you. That's what really got you. Yeah, I saw it had red. Yeah. That was beautiful. Oh man, we got to do a, oh sugar.

So I'm, it's been a big little, I knew this would happen. It was a big drive yesterday and weird memories are opening up. Yeah. Slowly and things I should have meant, like things that were the leader, I'm burying. I knew this would happen. It was a big drive yesterday and weird memories are opening up slowly and things I should have meant, like things that were the leader, I'm burying. We went to the comedy show on the second night there with Anthony DeVito, let me open for him.

The great dance, so I saw there was a comedy show. They don't really have many comedy rooms there. I got to go and do a comedy show. Sam came along. Next door was like a Star Wars Fashion show talent show rave nerd Festival sort of we all met on the internet now. We're all here. Yeah

Yeah, that was nuts. It was great. I had a great time We went in there and someone was on stage and you clocked them as being dressed from Twilight immediately Yes, who were dressed from Twilight immediately. Yes. Who were they from Twilight? And why was that an interesting thing to dress up as? She looked like she was wearing a baseball shirt. Yeah, because the iconic scene from Twilight is baseball because they all are super strong and super fast.

And they're all dressed like they've never seen a baseball game before. Like they've just like seen baseball once and they're like baseball shirt. Yeah. Leggings. And then they do like the straight leg where they kick it up and then they like throw the ball. Like they need form. Like old timey baseball. Very old timey sort of thing. But um, just because of like, I don't know, the way the internet has progressed and the things that are memed. That became memed? Oh yeah.

I missed this entire- I only read the books when I was very depressed and 17. So the baseball thing didn't- I didn't know that was a big thing. I didn't know. I wouldn't have read it now. I don't know about Twilight. The first- the first Twilight movie is okay. Okay. I wouldn't.

Do they get better from that point or fall down? No, no, they get way worse. Okay. Have you seen the CGI face of the baby at the end? No, what's happening with that? Oh, it's awful. Hold on. CGI baby Twilight?

Yeah, you'll find out. This is the first time I'm hearing about it. Oh man. Runezme as well. See, gee, well, unlike bad rom-comic movies, we started watching some Hallmark stuff. CGI Baby Twilight's first one. Let's have a look. Yeah, what's wrong with that?

Oh, what? Hold on. Is that in the movie? Yeah. Because she ends up having, this is spoilers. Yeah. But so. Wait, is that the baby? Yeah, that's the baby.

So she has a baby with Robert Pattinson. Yes. And then it like the author Stephanie, whatever her name is. Yeah. You can keep blowing your nose anytime. There will be no edits. Stephanie Meyer, thank you so much. Stephanie Meyer is like, oh yeah,

so you can have a baby when one is a vampire and one is a model. I remember that. But the sprog has to be- But it must be the woman. Yeah, the sprog? Is that what the babies call? No, the comp has to be- Oh, I didn't know that was the term for that. The, yes. Uh,

vampire from the vampire because like, you know, men, once they turn 16, they actually just stopped developing anyway. So if you get turned into a vampire as a male, when you're an adult, yes, you can still impregnate women apparently. Okay. I remember this in the book and I remember thinking that makes sense But now in hindsight, I don't know the rules that would well she I think she was just making yeah She's having she wants to say so she's human. Yeah, and then she they they do it once they get married immediately You know, and then she becomes a vampire and she's pregnant She's pregnant a vampire and then no, and then they're like, oh my

You're pregnant. This baby is going to kill you. We need to get rid of it. And she's like, no, we could never do that. I would rather have this baby. The fourth book is like a- I love that. I didn't know there was an abortion storyline.

There's something going on. And she's like, no, we're not going to get rid of this baby. Oh, then the dog man falls in love with her baby. Yeah. So she, I think it's like, she has the baby. It's, it's. All right. You love it. You're a, clearly you're a huge fan and you love it. You want to be known. You want to join the fandom. This is, this is my cover letter.

I didn't, but why is the baby old? So because they want the baby, like for the story. Yeah. The baby gets born. Bella gets turned into a vampire like immediately after the baby is born. So it's a one big happy like vampire family. Yeah. But the baby basically

ages so fast until it's like the equivalent of 21 and then it stops aging. What? That's just how they've written it. Okay. That's what happens to...

That's just what happens to half vampire, half mortals. How fast does it get to 21? It's like a couple of days? It's like days until it's like a like eight year old child equivalent. Okay. What's the baby called, ma'am? Renesmee, because she loves both of her mums. Both Robert Pattinson's mum and her mum. Oh wow, that's a very ugly baby. Okay, so it's not weird that she's going to be a couple days old and in love with the dog, man. Well, so the imprinting is... Is that one-sided?

Well, the imprinting is that Wolfman, he loves her or whatever stage she's in. So right now he's like an uncle to her. Right. And then as she gets older, Oh, that's fine. It will turn into a love. No, that's better. That's better.

That's the... But like, imagine knowing that. Imagine like looking at like an eight-year-old and being like well Yeah, I don't love it I mean, I bet people do it's called grooming. Yeah, it's a big issue, but then people see her Jacob's feelings will become romantic when Renes may she that's a terrible name that's a terrible name. Man, I reckon, I reckon they go, I think this was done very quickly in the, at the end of the fourth book. Maybe I'm misremembering. I think they've stretched

this out for the film. Well, yeah. Fair enough. It's a weird twist. It's sort of, the fourth book kind of felt like a fan fiction of itself, I think is probably how I read it. I remember it was building to the sex for three books and then they just skipped all the sex. But then like did horrible, lurid descriptions of what had happened being like, whoa, I heard

uh, yeah, well like the cleaner comes in or something the day after and she's like, this man's going to kill this woman. But they just have a freaky powerful love. Yeah. Um, I've told you, I met Robert Pattinson. Yeah, you did tell me that. I'll tell everybody about that. Great guy. It was, didn't really get to talk to him very much. Um, hold on. What else? So they were, that was very loud and they were doing a fashion show and there was a woman who was doing diabetic standup comedy and took her shirt off. She

still had a sports bra on, but it was, yeah, she got the room back a little bit while that happened, but she had real charisma. And, uh, we got to see Al Capone's bar. So it's coming at me like a fever dream. I didn't get any videos of this. There's no video for this podcast. We saw Al Capone's bar that had been moved from Chicago to New Orleans. Yeah, that was pretty good. And we saw the button on the bottom of the bar where Al Capone would call people for

some reason, possibly. I don't know what the button was. Someone just thought it was fun to show us the button. Yeah. What a man. What else happened in New Orleans? It was stumbling around was a big part of it. It was a lot of stumbling around.

The pavements were something. Yeah, lots of pavement. We were drunk. I was drunk. That being able to drink and walk around is important. Yeah, that was probably one of the best parts. I'd like to apologize to my friend Paul, who I didn't take seriously.

I didn't judge him. I wasn't against him. But he had lived in New Orleans. That's one of the reasons parts. I'd like to apologize to my friend, Paul, who I didn't take seriously. I didn't judge him. I wasn't against him, but he had lived in New Orleans. That's one of the reasons we went to New Orleans because he had been there and he talked it up. And he's always talking about the importance of having people drinking and walking in, you know, downtowns. He's right.

We've got to do it. I think it was one of those things that you don't really realize why someone is telling you that until you get there. Yeah. And then you go, ah, ah, it's better. I think also, and like, I know that I keep talking about Disneyland in relation to everything that I've seen. Are you saying, yes, well, we know we spoke about this very

much that New Orleans is well, because I think it's Disneyland that like a little main bit where you walk in is based on New Orleans, right? It's got the architecture, the length and size of the streets, fewer drive-bys in Disneyland for sure. Has that ever happened in Disneyland? A drive-by shooting? Not a drive-by, but a shooting. Boy, I wanna know.

Disney, surely not Disney. We'll go World, because it's bigger first, and then go Land. Disney World Shooting. That would be weird if it hadn't happened. Disney World Shooting. I would wonder if it's been suppressed, if it has happened.

There was a report a couple days ago of a popping sound, which people, then a rumor spread out across the park that there was an active shooter um they've dispelled the rumor that's all they're talking about oh man i was reading about the uh hurricane katrina disney lady shooting disneyland shooting thank you oh there have been a few incidents uh yeah nearby and a hoax so every now and again there's an active shooter hoax

and people think, here we go, list of incidents at Disneyland Resort. Gee, that's strong content. December 21, 2000. A 15 year old boy suffered a broken leg after his foot became stuck between a guardrail and the car in which he was riding. Oh, he might've dangled his leg outside the car causing

injury. Oh, it's his fault. Opened six hours after. Yeah, play by the rules. You're in Disney World. Uh, oh, oh, that one involves a death, so we'll skip that. Here we go. This one's only a mangling. A five-year-old boy was seriously injured when his foot became wedged between the passenger carts running aboard. How many of these are gonna be guys? Yeah this is all to do with guys and rides. Yeah. Do you know what I found out the other day? It's like 99% of men overboards are men. So that's why they still call it man overboard. Because it's always a man overboard? Like no women are falling overboard on a boat. Yeah, I assume they're, why?

Why is it only men? I mean, sometimes we're jumping, right? I don't know. Sorry, how many of these are putting their hands in? It's so many. It's, sorry, I've got to stop. Yeah, standing up in a bobsled ride. What did you think was gonna? Ten children was him by first. Oh, no, this one's bad in 1993 a chandelier fell in goofy's bounce house

Have a jumping castle do not have a chandelier in it. All right Thank you If you ever think of that, oh man. Sorry. There's a lot of incidents. None of them. None of them involve a gun. Yep, the word gun does not appear on that page. So no, it's so good. The New Orleans was 300,000 people live there. We can't move to New Orleans. No, I don't think with a car. There's no comedy. There's like two comedy clubs. I can go back to New Orleans. But yeah, that's it. You can go to Houston. I can go to Houston. Houston didn't feel the same as

New Orleans. New Orleans felt magical. Yeah it really did it was great. It was like I think I think what you were saying as well like it's there's so many places that feel like someone has had New Orleans described to them. Yeah. And they've gone, all right, I'll try to do that. I'm aware that it might not be good content, me repeatedly saying how good New Orleans is. I know that. And people have done this. Yeah. How did, I don't know who, who did you, do you know people who've gone to New Orleans?

I don't know anyone who's gone to New Orleans. Right. I'm going to have to ask. I know one person who's gone to, you hear about it. It's always listed as like, it's like's going to New Orleans. Right. I'm gonna have to ask. I know one person who's going to, you hear about it. It's always listed as like, it's like New York, New Orleans, and then when people are traveling, no one goes from Australia.

I reckon we'll check out New Orleans. Yeah, I think when you first suggested New Orleans, I was like, sure, like I guess so. But it was like, I think when we were playing around in New York, I was like, yeah, cool. Like New York makes sense. Yeah. And then when you said New Orleans, I was like, oh, yeah.

I mean, that's a good second option. It was easier and cheaper. Yeah. And it should be known. That's why we did go there. That's why we went. Yeah. I think it paid off.

No, I think it was great. I would love to go there again. I think the day drinking. Though the day drinking, I think, was quite interesting because I think like, uh, we have a culture of, I was like, I was ready to get like hammered. Well, yeah, but that's not, that's not the way is it? In America they.

And I don't think I would have done it because I think you like, you stay there for long enough and you're like, okay, like tipsy is kind of the tipsy is a level for a long time. Yeah. I think I genuinely didn't see, we were out at night a number of times in New Orleans and maybe this is an American thing in general. I don't remember seeing anyone blackout drunk. No I think New Orleans I got the sense that it's just because it's more like pot smoking. That would be a big part of it.

I think that's America wide. Yeah we got hit with the significantly more I feel like in New Orleans than anywhere else I don't even know if it's legally in New Orleans yeah there was shops everywhere I don't even see them anymore because they're everywhere like recreational consumption is illegal The medical yeah, there we go. So it's medical. So it's like you just you just say it Yeah, I wonder I would like to know what the list of medical are Foods not delicious enough. Oh, well, we better write you a

Designing yeah. Oh man, you showed us great. You really took over on the YouTube in the evenings. Oh, yeah, IC Bitaru. Yeah, this is the man who quotes all that stuff. The Japanese man, yeah, great. That was a great video. Do you want to say that again for everybody? IC Bitaru.

IC Bitaru. Oh, so good. I-S-E-E Bitaru. He was very charismatic. Look-E-E Bitaru. He was very charismatic. The one, look, I enjoyed Icy Bitaru. What I loved was, uh, was it Old Things Never Die? Old Things Never Die. Old Things, I will subscribe. Excuse me.

That was Icy Bitaru standing up. That man doing restoration on Old Things Never Die made me so happy. Yeah, that was very good. Using a, making a gummy bear out of a wine press. Yeah, he got a very old wine press. He got it, he buys everything from flea markets for like, I don't know, three euros or something cause he's in France, I think.

And then just lovingly restores it. And you can just tell, they're 20 minute videos, but you can tell that that would have taken him months to do. Yeah. Like just months on months on months and he has this amazing thing Called the sandblaster. Yeah, and it's just so Beautiful to watch him just sanding down removing the bad Yeah Yeah, I was concerned when my wife saw the sandblaster

because I thought she would want one. I think you're gonna have to get her a sandblaster. Well, we need to- Or a Dremel. We need to organize our life such that we can get to the point where we're back to her getting the power to restore old furniture. Yeah, I think that'll be-

Because we need to restore the life to restore the furniture. And you being here has been very helpful and really good. And we're all much happier and the house is in better nick and we managed like, organize a bunch of things for processes in the house.

I'm very happy with it. We've got a journey. I did, obviously, if you wanted to stay for longer, that would be fine, but I'm not gonna destroy it. You've gotta go. You've gotta go back. Jared and Nick. Sorry would be fine, but I'm not gonna destroy it. You've got to go I'm gonna go back Jared and Nick. Sorry what now I know you've got to go. You're not gonna destroy my But passport I said I wouldn't destroy your passport even though having you here has been so great

I would not human traffic. I would allow you to leave now, but here's For the catamaran plan. I know it's odd For it to have taken 50 minutes to get into the catamaran plan side of things. You organized a film festival in your home. Yes. And you have a different party. You had the pizza party. Yeah. You had the film festival party. What was the third one? Matches. You had Burning Man. The pyramid scheme. Pyramid scheme. Pyramid scheme to sell matches. Yep. You invite all your friends over and you have a big themed party. Yep. And the latest one was film festival and you made a film I made a film which was great but some of the mixing listen I was organizing a film

festival I know I know it's very rare for the director it was not high up for my progress seldom will the guy who's running Khan film festival also show up thank you yeah so I understand, who I assume was also, Nick, your partner, who was also organizing it, made a claymation movie that you showed us that was great. Yeah, beautiful. He can really do it. Yeah. He's got a gift. Yeah, he really does. I'd like to use to be my boss. Yeah, I'm incorporating you now as head of Music videos and board games. Okay. I know you're so organized. You got me to stay at companies for years and do Enough work not to get fired and I'm very appreciative of that. I did my best. No one else ever managed to do that with me before

I Would like Nick and I know I'll have to ask him, but perhaps at some point we can jump on a group chat. It looks like we might get to make a music video with a very celebrated musician. No more information, but I'm hard at work on it. So then a music video would be required. Yes. Do you think Nick would be interested?

You know what, don't answer that now. You run it by him. That's one thing. I run it by him. You run it by him. That's one thing. I don't run it by him. You run it by him? You can also ask him. I will ask him. Yep.

But I'd like you to take charge because you'll be there on the ground. Yeah. You know, it's very rare that the business oversight person also shares a home. Yeah. So I think that's good. No, I think it works.

And the second one is a board game because we played an escape room. I had to leave halfway through and go to a gig for one of them, but we all wow that's a spider Wow, that's a spider. Do you want to um? I'll just move oh she's that use that is that empty set my yeah Can you use it though? Yeah? Oh you're afraid of spiders That's right. We had a big chat about it It's just water. Oh, great.

I'll use this paper. The board game idea. Get off of there, spider. There we go. I think it would be good to do a board game. Thanks, James. You and Nick play lots of board games and he's very graphically talented

and I think you could do the... Whoa! Thank you. You're welcome. You have many gifts. I think you're a very talented person. You have a lot of gifts and we wanna use all of them

to have me have enough money to buy a boat. But I think you're a very talented person. You have a lot of gifts. And we wanna use all of them to have me have enough money to buy a boat. But I think, like I don't know anyone who researches things better. Like you were in charge of finding all the food on the trip, just because you took it upon yourself and you're like, no, this place, I've decided this is the one.

And you have, and I think I've plugged it on here before, but I'll plug it again. Perfect forms, your recently reactivated sub stack. Yes. About finding the perfect version of different things. Of just, yeah. Cause I think you want to have everything that is in your life.

You want it to be like quite delightful. Yes. So. For me, uncontroversial. I don't think this is why I keep thinking about the difference between luxury and expensive. Because you want everything to actually feel quite luxurious, but it doesn't, you know, or if you just think about it hard enough, often you can find it nearby.

I noticed that you selected an incredibly, I mean, again, it was a shotgun shack. This is, I think what it's telling is that we ended up staying in a shotgun shack in New Orleans, but it was like, you picked a great, there was chandeliers. Yeah, it's telling is that we ended up staying in a shotgun shack in New Orleans, but it was like, you picked a great, there were chandeliers. Yeah, it was beautiful. Ornaments were great. We had to move so many ornaments up high so the children wouldn't destroy them. And your research abilities are unparalleled.

I don't know anyone who can do it better or faster. So if I was to say to anybody, we want to make the best a board game that people love and feel excited about having and it's done in a certain way, not expensive. No one is going to run that task better. Thank you. You're number one. Will you accept the commission? I accept. Yes. Yes. All right. We're going to have a board game type thing. Type of thing, yeah. I'm not good at game theory.

No, I think that's fine. And I think the thing that I have learned with board games, because I've been thinking about this, is I think you just have to let the person making the board game cook a little bit. I agree. And I think that's kind of the way it is. And then like they've got,

you have to let them come up with the concept. For sure. And then you refine and you do all of that stuff. All I ask. Yeah. Water. All I ask. All that stuff. Yeah. Water. Water, yeah.

Catamaran plan, if it can be, I don't have to be in it, you know? It doesn't have to have like a figure of me running around. It's something I would like to put our name on as a, you know, and get the, but I think if it was, if it was, it all could be nautical, that's very broad. I think that's fine. Okay. We can do that. Do you hear about the guy who made the new pasta shape? The new pasta shape?

Yeah. Not- So he also does a podcast. It's called The Sporkful. Okay. His name is Dan Pashman. What type of new pasta shape am I gonna find? Probably, honestly.

Yeah. Custacelli created by Dan Pashman go please go on so he I think we kind of like he he basically was like there is no pasta shape that like ticks every single box of a pasta that I want yeah and so he just spent like I think it was like something like three years just researching pasta oh Oh man. Oh, you know what? We should buy some.

I forgot that we're in America. Can you get it? Yeah. We can get it here. We should get it. What am I doing? He invented? Yeah, he fully invented a new pasta shape. Okay, here are his-

Because he was like, here's everything that he's like, he went through every pasta. This is so funny. This is totally how you talk about every item where you divide it into like, what are the qualities that it must fulfill? Yeah, so you can see why. And how can it do it to the next one?

So here's for pasta, fork ability. How easy it is to get a pasta shape on your fork and keep it there. Source ability, how well sauce sticks to it. And tooth sink ability. How satisfying, wow, he's an influence on you. Yeah, huge. I'm seeing that now.

All right, that's so funny. How satisfying it is to bite into it. I think that's got a lot to do with like the flower and how al dente it is and all of that. But he makes some good points. Should we interview this man? He's great. Dan Pashmore? I know nothing about him. Hold on. That's hilarious that he then made it.

Is he a cook guy? He's a podcaster. Podcast cook? Is it all about food? No, he's just a podcaster. He just loves food. Follow. Um, inventor of the, yeah, he talks about the, well, look, can we see if we can get that pasta shape and have it for dinner? Yeah. Because maybe we won't like it, you know? maybe this is like enlightenment. Uh, uh, the old, you know, when people were like, we can think of it, you know, sometimes you can overthink it. Like I remember with the hat, I was asking what your criteria on criteria would be if

you're a new hat and you're like, no, this is more of a one chooses the wizard type situation. I think that's what you're looking to. I think something that I've learned through like being the way that I am is that sometimes the best selection is something that you just vibe out and like you don't need to research every single thing. Yeah, there he is. It must be said he looks a lot like Don Trump Jr. in this video. Just the beard and the hair. I'll take it back. He seems like a great guy. I like him a lot. I like him a lot. All right. He's great. All right. Let's get that pasta. Do you think we can get that in Austin? We should be able to get that. I think we're going to get that pasta. Let's do that today. I'm fascinated. I didn't even think of food

products. I would. All right. Inventor of anything's pasta bowl. So is the, it's called the Sporkful. Is the whole podcast about the pasta? No, no, he's like done these things. So he's been running this podcast for like, I don't know, a while. And then one day he comes out with a series and he's like, this is, this is, this is the big one. Okay. I want to make the best pasta shape that I can possibly make. And he does it.

And this pasta just does so well that it's now kind of become bigger than him and like everyone wants to make it he originally was like we're not gonna make it gluten-free and then people wow and they were like we're gonna make it gluten-free and he was like okay all right so this is a real industry I'm looking at now wow all right that's nuts it was named one of Time magazine's 100 best inventions of 2021. I think we can do this for your board game. We just figure out how to make it the best board game.

I think this is this is the thing that America has taught me. And I think I never really understood the tall poppy thing that we had in Australia. And to come to America. Because like you have someone going to Disneyland and going, I'm going to do that for a petrol station. It's like, yes, that's a crazy. But everyone gets around them here and going, I'm going to do that for a petrol station. It's like, that's a crazy idea. But everyone gets around them here and goes. Everyone gets around them.

Oh, you've got a crazy idea. I hope you do achieve that. And then you do it, and you kind of are like. Please. Exactly. We would love to see it. Here's $100 million. In Australia, they tear you down.

We do tear each other down. Oh, yeah. I've been involved in tearing people down. People have torn me down. No more tearing each other down, lifting each other up. Lifting each other up. I'm gonna go home, I'm gonna be like,

we're gonna make a board game that's like the pasta shape. Yeah. And anyone who tears me down, I'm gonna go, you just don't see it. The best board game. Yeah. And we can figure out, we need probably more specifics than that.

I think a big thing happening at the moment is like cooperative board games. Co-op is having a big moment. Co-op is having a big moment because there are so many people like my sweet wife who does not want to compete. Yeah. But also- I think it gets the women on board. Yeah. It's a nice couples activity. You can get your kids in but everyone's working together as a team. Also it is nicer. I do like I will say I do prefer caught much more Upset the end. Yeah, I mean obviously I like a competitive board game where I can destroy people but I'm happy to tolerate Because you're very smart. No, no, no, it's not a smart thing. I just I don't mind losing

I really get into a nasty space. Yeah, And I love being there and having a safe area to have. No, it's true. It's true. It's a problem. I did. When Sam was taking over the music on the podcast, like you play, Oh, I wanted to talk about that. Anyway, first thing I'll say is when you, you put on some music and you put on, you was like, this is the, my favorite songs of all time. And then Moby came on immediately. And I did get nasty about playing that. I mean, I didn't read it as nasty. I thought you were just being- I appreciate that. You're being very kind. A bit not nice.

But I was shooting for nasty. But you played podcasts and one podcast was terrific. We can give them a plug that Reply All, which I never listened to. And I understand there's been some sort of scandal and one of the men has had to leave, but he was very good with the music. They've just stopped doing Reply All now. Oh, they just ended it? It's just stopped. Yeah cancel culture. I don't know anything about it So I'm not gonna pass on but how dare they stop that was a great when they're looking for a song that a man remembers That was a great episode Reply All beautiful, but then you put on the Bolero

Podcast unraveling Bolero by radio lab. Yeah about degenerative brain How sad it was I'm so sorry my wife and I were crying. Yeah It's fine. It's a five-year-old podcast and I just remember going how sad it was, I'm so sorry. My wife and I were crying during the drive. Yeah, I know, I didn't mean it. It's fine? It's a five year old podcast. And I just remember going, wow, it's beautiful that someone's made this piece of art based on these beautiful other songs.

And then they both have the same degenerative brain condition? Yeah, and they made it really sad. All I could think about was having a degenerative brain condition. Yeah, for the rest of the trip. I think I've got, and you know, this haunting thing of like, if you make a piece of repetitious artwork

You've got six years before you die. That's Spooky. Yeah, and I love iterations on things too Like if it's a long-term thing, maybe you're right if it's a sudden change that seems to be a problem the best board game First of all, we're getting this pasta. Yeah, I don't know how we're gonna find this. No, I think we can find it I think it's like at Whole Foods.. Interesting. We'll look it up. All right. I want this pasta. Now we've been, this podcast has now been going for... Wow, that was a good podcast. It was over an hour. Samantha, thank you for coming on the show. Thank you for having me. Perfect forms. Go subscribe. Board game coming soon. Music video also soon.

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