The James Donald Forbes McCann Catamaran Plan - Darcy

Episode Date: April 1, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I've never had Laksa before Well, I've only had like Harry Made Laksa But This is a real This is I believe The best Laxir in the world Have I had all the Loxes in the world?
Starting point is 00:00:12 No, I haven't Now do you want a fork or the chopstick? A fork? Yeah, yeah, yeah I'd be thrown through the window I'd have a real fork All right, okay Oh, I need another set of chops
Starting point is 00:00:20 You want chopsticks? You take the chopsticks No, I'll take chopsis I'll take a fork Oh, that's too degrading But I'm saying, honestly, what do you want? Do you want the chopsticks or the fork? Do you feel comfortable using the chopsticks?
Starting point is 00:00:30 Can I use my hands? No, you can like, You got a spoon? Come on. This is not a political... I wanted two of both. He's not even the cameraman left. I look like a scared in there.
Starting point is 00:00:46 I look up and it's like... What are your architectural... What's your architectural philosophy? What are your big feelings you have about big buildings and small buildings? I mean, for starters, the giant, you know, the horn, the horn's bud. On top of this building right now? The horn? Oh, the big apartment tower. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:03 I can remember some of my earliest memories of actually getting furious. We were about going down King William Street and seeing all the new developers. You used to be old industrial land. You'd be old... Yeah, we'd live it. They told out of the things and they start building, you know, 40-story apartments. We used to have one big building, and it was the Westpac building at the time, now the RAA building, Santos building. Various times.
Starting point is 00:01:29 And I would fantasize about blowing it up. This is my great fantasy. Now, of course, there's so many big towers. You'd have to blow up so many things, but I used to say, hello, how are you going? I used to really want to blow it up. Have you ever read The Fountainhead? The Fountainhead, no. It's Ayn Rand's book about architecture.
Starting point is 00:01:47 But it's very, anyway, you're a young man. I thought you might have read the Fountainhead. So you like smaller buildings. You don't like this big... It's not necessarily like that I'm arguing, but... You've got it to me right now. Agrientive about size. How do you feel about chopsticks and forks?
Starting point is 00:02:01 I'll take... You've got to take one of them because I need one and I don't want to encumber you. I'll take the bloody foot. Okay, there we go. All right. I wouldn't dare tarnish your image.
Starting point is 00:02:10 So you like a smaller, more tasteful traditional architecture's, I like, you know, if every building was like the old, there's a bank of New South Wales on corner of North Terrace and Ken Williams Street. If everybody was like that,
Starting point is 00:02:21 North Terrace and Highlands Street? The bomb with the restaurant in it. 2KW? Jamie's Italian. He used to do Jamie's Italian. Just down the road from the Adelaide Club. I think that's probably, yeah, yeah, that's probably the one. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:02:35 I call it this. Just because there's two there, because there's one that's very beautiful and one that's very hideous. You like the beautiful one. Oh, yeah. What else? What other buildings do you love in Adelaide? The railway station, I guess. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:49 I love the railway station. It's the one thing I can definitely be thanking for you. We might do the second part of this at the railway station. We might go to the railway station. What on the steps or, you know, paragliding through the wines? We were thinking of doing one. Like on the train. We might go on the train.
Starting point is 00:03:04 We might go. Have you driven in? How'd you get in? Oh, I take the train. Well, when we're done, I'll give you a lift home. Oh, you don't have to give you a lift home. No, I mean, we could just sit on the train. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:15 And we could do the podcast on the train all the way out. Maybe that'll be the thing, because I do a goal to line. If you do the old stops train, like one of those ones that take 10 years to get at the Sorsbury, then we'll be fine. Do the express? Oh, not the express. You can't catch the express. No, you don't have to tell me, but did you vote? in the previous election?
Starting point is 00:03:32 Yes, I did. The state election? Yes, I did. And did you put the Liberal Party dead last? Or a little higher? Because that'll be where you put my dad. And if you voted for my dad, if you voted for my dad, he'd be so happy.
Starting point is 00:03:45 My dad is, like, pretty upset with how that election went. Is your dad to watch this? Yeah, dad will watch this. Hello, James, Dad. His name's Daryl. Hello, Daryl. Hand on my heart, I can say. I did not vote for you.
Starting point is 00:04:01 but I'm sure you're a very stand-up fellow you're not bold as he said your son your wonderful son so that's already at least a five and a half out of seven on you've got to meet my dad
Starting point is 00:04:15 you've got to meet my dad one day you're going to meet my dad I think you've got a bright future oh bright future I hope so this is going very well I'm having this in the most difficult circumstance I can
Starting point is 00:04:26 and what's that well eating a luxer in a crowded restaurant True. You know what I mean? I thought we would do the podcast on hard mode to see how it went. No, but these sort of guerrilla, like podcasts. You come back any time.
Starting point is 00:04:38 You can keep coming on the podcast. We might organize something. What do you, now, you say self-employed? What does that mean? You're a pimp? You're a drug dealer? I'm not that far down, but I do just, you know, every now and again, I find something and I sell it.
Starting point is 00:04:51 So I'm sort of... You're a flipper? Not a flipper, but clothing flipper, I could say. Where do you buy things to sell them? I wouldn't say op shops because they all smell when they come from an op shop. I know like I'm talking not op shop is like you're finding down to $5,000. I'm talking like St. Vinnie DePaul or Salvos. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:14 What's wrong with that? That's an up shop. You don't like things from thrift stores? No, no, I buy it from. If it's from a thrift store, that means, you know, a tweed jacket that's like not even 10 years old would be like $5,000. So you find things at high value in upshops. and you sell them, where do you sell them? I just sell them whatever I can.
Starting point is 00:05:32 I have an eBay store which I'm not going to plug because it's dead at this point. What do you mean it's dead? Oh it's not dead. It's just, it's a bit slow. Because it's, I've been around eBay for the two people in the audience that care who pretend to care. When you're on it a long time, you realize there are so many people.
Starting point is 00:05:51 There's 50,000 people watching right now. 50,000. There's for sure. There's for sure people are so excited to find out about Darcy. No way. Yeah. More people watching this Darcy than Darcy Fogity at the Adelaide Oval. Failing to make an impression. You're a crow's man?
Starting point is 00:06:06 I don't go for sports. No sports. But your family is a... Do you have an allegiance as a family? One half of the family, you know, that sort of... That type of family. They are... They used to be port, but then they'd go for crows, I think.
Starting point is 00:06:22 They came on board. They saw the light. I was never a football fan, and then I became very depressed when I moved back from... Melbourne at the end of a relationship. I had a relationship for a part. And I moved back when I was like 24. That was the first time I started watching hoodie and I went with my dad to Adelaide Oval. We got, we got beaten by Melbourne who weren't even a good time at. They weren't a good team even then. But it was, I think it was the beginning of my accepting we needed to be part of something bigger than
Starting point is 00:06:46 ourselves to be happy. And now it's like an antidepressant for you now? Oh yeah. I was, so I moved back from America and I was really depressed. You eat. I'll talk for a while. We'll take turns. I moved back from the States, and I was, I'll move over here so I can be seen. But it's kind of an odd angle. Are you all right? Yeah. Here you go.
Starting point is 00:07:06 Have some napkins. Have some napkins. No, you'll figure it out. You'll get it out. It's a good Alexa right there. Why can't I just have a steak sandwich? You saw the steak sandwich episode? Yeah, you watched the start.
Starting point is 00:07:15 You watched the whole thing? I don't know. And I need the confidence boost. I don't even remember what I was saying. We've got a newborn at home, so I'm struggling. You have a kid? I've got four kids. We've got to prosper with us.
Starting point is 00:07:29 You've got to get out there and get it done. We've got to grab life by the You know what, and yeah. Europa leading the bull off by the horn. I'm reading Ovid. Have you ever read Ovid? Who are your favourite authors? I bet you read.
Starting point is 00:07:44 I don't have favourite authors. I have interesting books, but no favourite authors. All right, some of your favourite books? I mean, the one I'm reading right now is a favourite favourite. It's by Noemann Doidge. He's some Welsh fella. I don't know who the hell he is. It's a book about psychology, about the brain, about the brain healing itself.
Starting point is 00:08:02 It's called The Brain That Can Kill Itself. It's a good name. Yeah. But it's that, and then it'll be a book about a book, I find very humorous in Dark Times. It's by, what was his name? Some Italian-American. Ever watched The Sopranos? Fuliotato, his actor, his book.
Starting point is 00:08:28 Okay. You like the Sopranos fan? Yeah, it rubs off on me too often. Are you of Italian extraction? No. I mean, my last name is, it would be a dead giveaway because you think O'Hara. Oh, no, Irish. Irish?
Starting point is 00:08:42 Yeah. But not Irish. Not Irish. I think. I'm more Welsh. Okay. Which is why I'm very short. I don't know how you got an O'Hara who's not Irish.
Starting point is 00:08:51 Have you read Gone with the Wind? I've watched the movie. It's a great movie. It's a beautiful story. They keep trying to tell us that it's a beautiful story. But I love the O'Hara family. I love the movie. I love the book.
Starting point is 00:09:02 I was a big fan of the book. Yeah. And then when I went to the south, oh, I got to see it. It's so beautiful. We did a big drive from the north through the south. We were homeless at the time. It was about a year and a half ago.
Starting point is 00:09:14 I won't say homeless. I'll say without a home. It was me and three kids at that point. And my wife and our friend, we were driving, and it was winter in the north and summer in the south. You know, it was, I mean, I guess it was like spring. Spring was springing.
Starting point is 00:09:25 But it starts sooner in the south because it's hotter. Anyway, as we drove down, and everything started to bloom. And then we passed into Arkansas, and all of a sudden it's big rolling hills and so lush. And you just drive further into the south and you start going, even though I am against slavery, I would kill people for this landscape. If someone tried to take it away from me, you know what I mean? It was like. Fair enough.
Starting point is 00:09:52 No, it's so beautiful. It's hauntingly beautiful. Oh, yeah. I mean, Adelaide's beautiful. Adelaide can be beautiful like that. Not close to the hills? Not that far. I'm like I'm in the planes where you know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:02 I'm in the planes. The planes are weird because I'm like three kilometers away from the nearest train line and it it thunders in the night. It's like next door and there's a factory. And you can always hear steel beams crashing at like 2 a.m. Have you read much T.S. Eliot? T.S. Eliot. I think you're going to like him.
Starting point is 00:10:22 Why aren't you at university doing an arts degree? It seems like you're a prime candidate. I don't want to go to you. I hang around university students and... Have you got mates who've gone off to the uni? Oh, yeah, definitely. Yeah. And they're very happy in debt.
Starting point is 00:10:35 Is this a political disagreement between you and the university? You finished high school? Oh, yeah, finished high school. I just believe that if I can go to a library, I can get the same education as I would pursuing a history degree. But if it's something like business, then it's... Come on, read a book about business. I don't need to have a university lecturer who's very unhappy there
Starting point is 00:10:56 Because I can't, you know. A lot of them are very unhappy. A lot of them are very unhappy. Hold on. You eat. You eat. You should eat. You got to eat some more.
Starting point is 00:11:04 Are you enjoying the luxe? You don't like it. Is this tofu? I don't know what that is. See, what fish is square? I don't know, man. Oh. I'm sure.
Starting point is 00:11:15 I'm sorry. I didn't sleep a lot last night. This has been a hard time for me. Sorry to you. No, it's beautiful. Look, in its way, it's beautiful. I was rude to my wife this morning. Which, you know, I endeavor not to be.
Starting point is 00:11:30 She was recovering from a C-section, and she was feeling a little down. And I, um, you know, you got a girlfriend? You got a boyfriend? You got a... Nah. Oh! You got a bit of chili there? My old family is curry every damn day, and I'm still the weakest.
Starting point is 00:11:46 Oh, did you go straight into the paste? You got a big thing of the chili paste? That's crazy. That's what that thing was? Yeah. I'm sorry. Oh. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:11:54 I'll be fine. That's why they put it there. You can ration it out throughout the... You'll be right. I believe in you. My kind of job is noodle or onion. Is there a Mrs. Darcy? No.
Starting point is 00:12:04 All right? No. You're living at home with your folks? Yep, unfortunately. But... Man, you go crazy living alone. Living alone? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:17 Like, nowadays, because it's more likely you're going to be able to run apart. Sorry. Please. No, come on. Do you want me to get your drink? I get your drink. Tell everybody about your hopes and dreams and ambitions and I'll get your drink. What do you want to drink? What do people drink for my age?
Starting point is 00:12:34 Coca-cola or something? Whatever's cheapest. Don't spend a penny. Hopes and dreams. How do you go on to this? Is it just naturally come to him? It's like a two-piece camera, like the closing hours of the ABC reporting. It's just, and now we can't.
Starting point is 00:12:57 I can't do this. Sure, if I can sharpen up and come off of the cuff, then. it'll be fine, but hopes and dreams. Once upon a time... Oh, you know. Where were we? You saved me? Did I get it? Yeah, get into that.
Starting point is 00:13:17 Hold on. I should get the time. I should find out how long we've been doing this for. Oh, that's not bad. Let's take a little break. Well, we'll just eat a little bit, and Sam will put the... Do you got a favorite national anthem? Favorite national anthem? Sometimes I do feel like the rejected anthem in 1961 for Australia was God Bless Australia.
Starting point is 00:13:42 God Bless Australia? I don't know. All right, let's play a little God Bless Australia while we eat for a minute. It's probably going to be copyright claim. There'll be some 700-year-old vampire claim. No, what are you going to do? You go on Wikipedia and usually have got someone recording it. And that's free.
Starting point is 00:13:54 True. Or you get the MIDI file. No, we do all the work around. All right, stop rolling the tape. No, roll it. Keep rolling. Yeah. No, he'll play the song.
Starting point is 00:14:06 You don't want people to see you eating? I do what he says. This proud possession was built by an Australian. Who's this fella? Do you want to come over and say hi? Who's the bigger? Yeah, get in. Get in.
Starting point is 00:17:11 Move over, hold one. Hello. Hey, how you go? James, James. Go on. Dice is going to take a break and suffer through his meal. How's your likes her? I love that.
Starting point is 00:17:26 I've enjoyed mine immensely. It's a bit of an instant. We're going to have to buy Darcia Western meal. We're going to have to buy Darcia Latria's sandwich after this. That's just where I came from. It's fantastic. Isn't it nice? But this is, that's a good laksa there.
Starting point is 00:17:39 Are you doing okay? God, Dad. Thanks for to come say hi. God bless you. Real pleasure. Nice to meet you. You hate this? No, no, it's just, you get the running nose up, you have much spice.
Starting point is 00:17:58 I don't want to. Oh. What do you want me to say? I just thought it was bold at the start where you said you didn't want to drink. I couldn't believe it. I thought, man, I'd want to drink. All right, we'll get you something else. You don't have to, you don't have to suffer. I'll buy you a sandwich. I'm making good money off having you on the podcast. I'll tell you that much. Is he taking another photo?
Starting point is 00:18:18 He loves to take the photo. All right. We have a brief moment of free window. Now, quick. What are your hopes and dreams? What are ambitions? Well, I want to bring it up this. The Catamaran plan, which I didn't know what the hell the camera in pro. stuttering here. Yeah. Like lunitude's character. The Catamaran plan. You want to get a catamaran, right?
Starting point is 00:18:40 It's the plan, yeah. It's funny. We've got something in common because I also want to get a boat. What kind of boat do you want to get? Well, you want like a 13 metre pleasure yacht. No, a yacht. Yeah, I want a big... Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:52 I'd like to move the family on, actually. Yeah, that'll... With the Catamaran hole, if it's got a decent superstructure, which can be easily like three, four bunks. Yeah. Then, yeah, you could... You get stretched it out, definitely put some more on. If you get upscale...
Starting point is 00:19:07 What do you want? What do you have to? The boat I kind of want is a 40-meter, 50-meter freighter. Because, as I was talking with Sam before, I have an idea, I want a ferry goods in and out of Kangaroo Island. As a smuggler? Not a smuggler? Hey, I had that idea, too. Go to Papua New Guinea.
Starting point is 00:19:25 But legally speaking, Kangaroo Island's got the toll ferry, you know? Yeah. Oh, you want to do that? You want to carry people and their things back and forward. You want to challenge, what's it called, C-Link? You want to challenge C-link. Oh, yeah. Because they charge exorbitant prices.
Starting point is 00:19:43 Yeah. And obviously, you know, if it's like a car, like, oh, like, you know, 50-year-old grammar and pop go, like, oh, I'm going to drive a kangaroo on and see the bees nest and the disfigured rock, you know. Yeah. Yeah, they can do that because they got their little four-by-four that's, you know, 20 metres long, whatever they got. I support this. I think we should all move to Kangaroo Island. I don't know if you know, this is one of the only places
Starting point is 00:20:09 that Aboriginal people were not at the time of European arrival. So if anyone does a welcome to country on Kangaroo Island, they're wrong. It was, they left. They didn't want to be there. Taunted. Full of ghosts.
Starting point is 00:20:22 No, I don't know. It's a bunch of lagoons and swamps. No wonder you don't want to be there. But it's beautiful. The beautiful beaches. When's last time you went to K.I.? A couple weeks ago? No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:20:31 Like a 2014, 13, I went on the ferry. I got bitten to death my mosquitoes and then just a bit died in the sleep. Because we were living in some bungalow, like a hundred-year-old bungalow. I slept on the floor. You and your family were living in a bungalow? We stayed like a week there. Okay. We went around the place.
Starting point is 00:20:49 What do your parents do? I've got a teacher and a nurse. Teacher and a nurse. Okay, your dad's a teacher and mum's a nurse or vice versa? Yeah. Okay. Where's your dad teach? Same school I went to.
Starting point is 00:21:00 But what does he teach? What is he? A primary school or high school? I think he's primarily in the gymnasium, but he also does a lot of the younger levels. Oh my, I'm a victim here. Holy crap. We're going to get Darcy's sandwich.
Starting point is 00:21:14 We're going to get you a sandwich, and we're going to go to the train station. Every time I go to a pub, I have a snitzel or something. Into the mic, in the mic. In the mic. You don't believe in the mic? You don't believe in the spicy food? Spicy food's good.
Starting point is 00:21:26 You think this is a third world scheme to? No, it's not fit for me. I haven't lived. this for the last seven generations so it doesn't work for me like i am i remember in was it so what did they call history in uh like this like what did they call we lost history after year 10 in my school they stopped doing it they stopped doing like no it like they had social they emerged like social sciences or whatever the hell i remember i got up and had a debate about the important and cultural significance of a pasty and sausage roll meat pies
Starting point is 00:21:59 amen yeah yeah So is wrong. That's my cold of flame before this. Standing up for, you know, food like that. In your school? Yeah, because... It was public school, public school. No, but I'm so sorry.
Starting point is 00:22:11 Like, do you have a public campaign? Or was that just in school you made a speech to everybody? Like in the middle of class. Because I got heated about it. Because it's your culture. Because, like, the teacher there was like, well, one of those, you know... You see labor? You see labor.
Starting point is 00:22:25 They're going down. You know, one of those... I have no idea what you're referring to. One of those... Oh. old women They were live during the Don Dunstan period So all they can think about is playhouses
Starting point is 00:22:37 And, oh, they're like. They were the first people to have restaurants in Adelaide. We just didn't have restaurants, apparently. That's the way they talk about it. They go there were no restaurants before Dunstan Dunstan. Oh, Ziff. Obviously, you had milk bars and I don't want to get into that.
Starting point is 00:22:52 Pride, decency. You're a turn. You're an R-U, what is it? R-E-T-V-R-N. But for milk bars? You want the dairy to come back. You like the saucy roll, the meat pie, Cornish pasty, it's foreign, it's alien.
Starting point is 00:23:09 I don't know, it's the minor in me. I got those like Welsh gimp legs. So I sort of like, I think I've got short legs, like a small torso. Don't look now. I'm not in my shorts. We'll get, yeah, let's, look. I think it's just in my blood. This is not working for you.
Starting point is 00:23:22 You need to eat lunch. You know, I've got this. I'm fine with a, I wouldn't want to say foreign. Let's get a sandwich. and let's go to the train station. Sammy a wheelway. Oh, is that loud? Have you got me?
Starting point is 00:23:41 What? Darcy, can you just give me a hibbitty-hibit-hay in the microphone there? She sells seashells by the seashore. We're going to turn Darcy up a little bit. Hold on. Hold on. Eating a sandwich is more intimate than eating noodles because it's distance. How's that?
Starting point is 00:24:04 Is that working? That's good. We got it. All right. Oh, yeah. If we're recording the audio separately, then obviously you can make adjustments and post-re-re-dict. Yeah, it'll be fine. It's no worries on air.
Starting point is 00:24:13 Can I eat the sandwich now? No, start eating the sandwich. You start it in the sandwich and I'll start doing the intro to the episode. Do I have permission, Sammy? Yeah, yeah, let's do it. He says, all right. All right, so you start. You can pop the mic down.
Starting point is 00:24:24 Oh. You pop mic down and start eating the sandwich, and I'll start the podcast. I think this might be a second. I think you've just got your way onto a second episode of the James Donald Forbes began. Ooh! Hello. Hello. Hello and welcome to this episode of the James Donald Forbes McCann Catamaran plan. I'm James Donald Forbes McCam. This is ostensibly still a podcast about me trying to raise enough money to buy a boat. I'm joined here by Darcy. Oh no, it's all right. We don't mind. We don't mind at all. You're sorry? We welcome everybody. There's no problem. Do you want to be on? I understand. Because, I mean, of course, the last time we had someone we didn't know on, it worked out so well. Darcy here eating a Lucia's number one. sandwich. Darcy, how do you feel about that sandwich?
Starting point is 00:25:15 It's an all right sandwich. It's an all right that's high praise from Darcy. And he paid. Thank you. I did. Well, he has a generous man, you know, he'll pay my pension. Well, I got to have a man on my podcast. I don't buy him a sandwich. This is how I groom.
Starting point is 00:25:32 This is how I groom young man from the street. I take him to bookstores and buy him sandwiches. Now we're here at the Is that festival still going? He's gone. He's gone. He's on a mission. We're here at the train station.
Starting point is 00:25:47 I have not. I was never really living on the train line. I was never a train line liver. I was an easty or a westy. I've not been a northy or a southy. So there has not been all that much cool. I was a bus boy. Very rarely on the train.
Starting point is 00:26:04 But I love this train station. I love coming here after the footy. I love walking through here and going to this bar. And so it's been a joy to come back here. after this Darcy at some point we'll have to go home to the northern suburbs on a train but why not get episode two and I must say when we were in Rundle Mall doing the podcast people were quite happy to be on and they didn't mind but there is people feel slightly betrayed by the presence of a big camera here in this glorious train station why are we in a train station
Starting point is 00:26:37 as you'll see if you watched episode Darcy episode number one it's really it's fine it doesn't It's all good. It's all good. So you have big notions on architecture. Yes. But this, this feels good to you. Like when you were,
Starting point is 00:26:53 is that dirty? I apologize. We've got to, we keep in to watch this. No, it's just my head. No, I'm bowling. Don't worry about it. We walked through town to get here.
Starting point is 00:27:01 Yes, we did. We saw many modern marvels. Yes, we did. Architecturally that disgusted you. Hmm. But this is fine. You like this? I mean, it's not at its best, of course.
Starting point is 00:27:14 like in a it's a bit better It's not a history lesson But you know In the 70s and 80s They usually have these A little Boos like a wooden
Starting point is 00:27:22 Like you know in France How they have those Are those structures Made in the Light Green They have like newspaper sellers Or people that sell I believe you Yeah
Starting point is 00:27:30 They used to have something like that here Like on the old days Now it's obviously gone They're shrinking the place And now it's a place to be And Well there used to be a man With a horse out front
Starting point is 00:27:39 Who would sell you pies From his cart Oh yeah Yeah the pie flow Yeah After a long night on the town. No, it is sort of odd and sad to see, I mean, it was just, it was a huge train station at one point. Oh yeah. And now it's a big casino.
Starting point is 00:27:53 It is. With a train station on it. Yeah. That's kind of sad. Oh yeah, it is sad. Obviously they shrung the officers and they just went, oh, bugger this will move to the Parklands, the Parklands terminal, which, what's the point? One of the terminals. Used to be just one of the terminals, right? Oh, yeah. It's my understanding. It is, this is a public space and you get the sense in a in a place like this that they actually sort of cared how people felt. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:20 You know? And it obviously cost more money to do masonry and have nice windows and have beautiful lights hanging and, you know. I mean, what is the point in having marvelous plaster of the ceiling of a train station? Great molding. And I don't know why it is that that makes us feel. Like people have theories.
Starting point is 00:28:38 People think it's... It's grandiose. It makes you feel like you're in a forest maybe. When you go to the royal and regal palaces in Europe, it is sort of, it does feel like it's a, obviously this was made by a public entity, South Australia Railways, and it is sort of giving a bit of royalty to people. There's a dignity to a public space. Oh, yes, that you're in a, you know, you're not in a tin shed. You're not in an open air, you know, you're not in a field. Every new McDonald's looks like an abattoir, you know.
Starting point is 00:29:12 In every bank looks like a McDonald's. Sorry. It's really... Hey, this is the most considered it ever been. In Rundle Mall, it's just... I didn't expect that people would feel bad to be on... Now I feel bad. There is, because it is a public space.
Starting point is 00:29:31 Oh yeah. And we're sort of... It's sort of, it's an intrusion. Maybe it's also a different kind of person who comes... Is at the train station? I think so. To run a mall. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:29:40 Because half the people are in Rundell It's just people that actually want to get from point A to point B. The other point B are just people getting lost in stores. That's it. Why were you there that day? Where were you going? The day that we met, the day that... I was getting lost in stores.
Starting point is 00:29:54 Well, you would just, so you just come to town. Oh, yeah, just have a look around. Sorry, you can do whatever you... Sam, we've got to change. People can... If people can see the camera, it's ruin us to us. You've got to hide up there. You've got to hide up there.
Starting point is 00:30:05 It's not fair. Sorry, it's not fair to people, Sam. Yes. You reckon you can put like a bush around them? How's that? How's that? Or a pot of plant? We hide him behind some blunts.
Starting point is 00:30:15 Because people keep walking up and they look nervous and anxious and sad and we don't want to do that to people. We already had that enough at the, what's it called, the market. Are you happy there, Sam? Sam's got a headset so he can hear us and that's... Oh yeah, of course. It's an absolute breakthrough. I'll yell at him.
Starting point is 00:30:31 I'll make sure he hears me. See, everyone... Maybe... See, I think everyone here is just much more acutely aware because in Rundle, it's like... There'll be the sun shining in your eyes. and you get blinded or you're too overwhelmed by the crowd. Really nice people are doing individually.
Starting point is 00:30:47 But here it's an open space. It's sheltered and everyone's just, their eyes are more free to roam to look around. I'll add another thing. On Rundle Moore, there's a tradition, I would say, of people trying to cop online content, whether that be the anti-abortion activists. Oh, your people are up with the phone.
Starting point is 00:31:02 Short, yeah, yeah. So there on that show. How do you think about, earliest TikTok I found? You know how you know things? I've been so many of those TikTok fellows that he has. I love walking over and talk to the TikTok Boy's.
Starting point is 00:31:13 But, I mean, we were literally, like, that shot began with us, with behind the news getting the same thing. Yeah, I saw BDN there. BDN and then there was ABC at the parliament at the same time. I think we might have to go onto the train, Sam. I think to really capture the energy and the urgency required, I think we might need to be on a train. It is like 3.30. Well, that's a time step. 3.30.
Starting point is 00:31:37 How do you feel about that? I mean, is this? It wouldn't be too busy. we can get a good train and drop me off. Well, we'll wait. We'll see how we... We'll see how we go. We've got to get into a proper groove.
Starting point is 00:31:51 I need to look away. There's too many distracting objects around there. See, those boys, they look like nasty boys, but then they were afraid and they were afraid. I don't know. You're only 20, though. You're only 20. Like, fear is well and truly alive in the younger generation.
Starting point is 00:32:07 Why is that everyone in your generation seems to have anxiety disorder? Oh, like obviously, if you're hooked onto social media, there's so much, like, not to bring it up on the social media, but it is a big part of it. It's a big drug of the pie. Are you on social media? Not really. I didn't even have Instagram. How was I meant to know you're looking for me? This man had a warrant out for me, and I didn't know.
Starting point is 00:32:25 But I think that's good for you to be off the Instagram. That must be very strange for you in your generation. Oh, your school and your year level was everybody. It's all tribe, man. I'm sure they'll know. But on the Instagram, it's just a lot of posts. It's a, you know, I'm in a public place, so I'm careful not to swear. I'll go drubbed.
Starting point is 00:32:46 But, you know, there's a lot of shit posting, a lot of terrible videos. And they all have some stupid caption like Singapore is, and Japan is taking footsteps into energy. And it's some, it's always in Spanish in the description. This is your algorithm. I'm not getting any Japanese is taking footsteps into energy in Spanish. I'd love that sort of content. No, no, it's never about it.
Starting point is 00:33:07 It's just in the description. We're going to have to go on the train. I can't keep, people keep being afraid. People keep being afraid of us. Unless it's the people that, you know, they have cigarettes, and they're looking out and the like, I didn't think of people being afraid of us. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:21 Don't all right. I was like around here and you guys had two chairs there because there's such a beautiful background, all those lights and people walking in the background. We wouldn't have anyone in between you guys. So I'd have to get, that goes... Oh, oh, sorry. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:33:38 He owned his name. We're getting in trouble now. We're getting in trouble now. No, he's a driver. He's a driver? Yeah, he's a railway driver. Are you a railway driver, sir? What's it like being a railway driver?
Starting point is 00:33:53 We love trains. We're going to be getting on the train shortly. Which line are you on today? I do all of them. Do every line? Yes, we all. We all do all the lines. Favorite line?
Starting point is 00:34:06 Port Dock. What's so good about Port Dock? it's short. How do you feel about the notion that we get a hills train back in and fix the gauge? Yeah, I'd be all up for it, yeah. It's one of my dream. Yeah, yeah, do you live out there? No, I just want to go out there.
Starting point is 00:34:23 I just want to live out there. But it's my dream. Yeah, no, I can completely see why, I mean, there's a bit bigger population out there now, so I think it's terrible what they're doing in Mount Barker. In Mount Barker. What are they doing in me? Urban spraw. Oh, yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:34:41 Yeah. Public transport. This is Darcy. Darcy loves it. He rides the train. You've probably driven Darcy many times. He lives up here and what is. It's a Salisbury?
Starting point is 00:34:48 You're a Salisbury all along. And what is this? It's a podcast. We're just hanging out. But you get a lot of riffraff on the northern line. Don't answer that question. That's that. We all know the answer.
Starting point is 00:35:01 All right. Do you ever, you get to go down to the beach on the Grange? Yes. Yes. I get near it. I don't go. to the actual beach. What about Brighton?
Starting point is 00:35:12 That's... Sea Cliff? What about them? Aren't they great? Yeah, they're not bad, yeah. My favourites are the Grange Outer Harbor and Port Dock. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:25 ...to head towards the beach. It's just a nice. You get a glimpse on that line of some of the beaches? No. What's the best part about being a train driver? You self-managed. You're self-managed. to your own devices.
Starting point is 00:35:39 Are you? Don't you have to get there on time? Yeah, yeah, but I just sort of work solo. I haven't got anyone watching over me. I can just do my own thing and yeah, I like that. Worst thing about being a train driver? Sometimes you just get a, you can get some pretty busy shifts where you just do a lot of trains in one shift and so you just, yeah, you just... I'm so glad you didn't say fellas jumping on the tracks because I was pretty scared you were going to say that immediately after I asked the course.
Starting point is 00:36:09 immediately after I asked the question, but we'll move on. Yeah, no. I haven't had that personally. I was living in Melbourne and felt like it was happening every second day. Yeah. Maybe that's a more depressing city. Yeah, maybe. That's that question.
Starting point is 00:36:24 You're a Melbourneite? Yeah. Who's your footy team? Carlton. Are you going to the Gather-round in a couple weeks? No, I don't actually really like Aker. No, I understand. If I was a Carlton fan, I'd feel that way to.
Starting point is 00:36:34 You have to run a train. You have to go and run a train. Brother, thank you for coming on the part. It's called the James Donald Forbes McCann Camaran plan. I met Darcy in town a few weeks ago. He's now, I think, the co-host. I'll write it down.
Starting point is 00:36:48 Do you want me to write it down? It's too long. Darcy, if you've got any questions, I'll write down the name of the show. Oh, I didn't bring my pen. You grab your pen. You grab that. You can talk to Darcy and I'll leave this.
Starting point is 00:37:02 I've got the microphone. This is dangerous. You can spell your own name, right? James Donald, Forbes, Forbes, McCann. Catamaran plane. Is it on YouTube? Yeah, yeah. Thank you so much for coming on.
Starting point is 00:37:18 Yeah, that's all right. Can I ask you, what food are you eating? Oh, it's a Sam... What food was... Is this? Is it that why you advertising? The food? Oh, no, we're not having the sandwich.
Starting point is 00:37:28 I just got hungry. Nice. Have a good one. I thought you're having a podcast on food. Oh, no, he just had a sandwich. He just happened to have a sandwich. There you going. Good-day.
Starting point is 00:37:36 Good-day. I switch it. You're a big personality, and we would have loved to have you on the show. You can be on now. Any strong political opinions you want to share with people. How did you feel about the election? Come on. Do we love Pauline?
Starting point is 00:37:48 Hey, Pauline. Tell me more. She's got no policies. She's got one. It's a pretty grumpy one. Do you love Peter Melanaskis? I just come for a Labor Party lunch. Oh. Darcy's a big Labor man.
Starting point is 00:38:06 Darcy loves the Labor Party. I used to work for the Labor Party. I used to work for him. I was working for... Yeah, but... This is Darcy. Darcy is from Semaphore. Northern Boy, loves a working man.
Starting point is 00:38:17 Work at... No. Although we'll find out. Have a good one. Have a good one. Semaphore? I always say semifor. I'm sorry, instead of Strath...
Starting point is 00:38:28 No, Solisbren. I'm just having fun with it. I'm just joking. It's been a big silly. I do love Strath. Semaphore is great. Semaphore is a real working class communist type of... That's the headquarters of the Communist Party in Australia, I think.
Starting point is 00:38:43 I don't know. Semaphore Workers Club. I think I think I'm going to go. getting there right I'm so glad we stayed here there's not a lot of working going on in semaphore it's just go down there get ice cream get sand in your eyes it used to be work you know used to be docks warfies oh yeah there used to be the port used to be a railway station in December 4 is there not a railway station there anymore no they gotta bring the railway station hey you 50 years out of day in this they tore it up years ago I
Starting point is 00:39:04 mean I don't even know I don't catch the train I used to catch the tram I grew up in Glenelg and we would sometimes catch the tram and otherwise it's just buses all my life I only learned to drive at like 26, 27. But the train is so much nicer than the bus. I have to agree, yeah. To me, the bus is, you know, I used to have a joke that nothing truly bad can happen on the train. Then I'd go, well, there was that one thing.
Starting point is 00:39:27 Oh, yeah. But imagine how bad the Holocaust would have been if they had the bus there. That would have been... Anyway, that was it. No one liked that joke, and eventually I'd just stop telling it. I would have been pretty bad. I don't mind telling you that I did have to stop telling them. You can't squeeze 60 people on a suburban bus.
Starting point is 00:39:43 You can't. You can't sneak people on a suburban west. You can't squeeze 60 people on a single pass. No. Unless it's rush out. Sometimes, though, you see, in the inner west, I see the train going past and it's just two carriages. Oh, yeah, yeah. That makes me so sad.
Starting point is 00:39:56 It feels like the train should be a good long train. It should be a substantial thing. Oh, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? But we don't have enough stops yet. Melbourne, I don't know if you spent a lot of time in Melbourne, but... I've been to Melbourne. Well, it's just train stops everywhere.
Starting point is 00:40:07 It is. It is. It's always the most convenient way to get around. It's either trains or trams, and it's, you know, eight car long... But we tore it all up in the 50-60s. I mean, everyone was, and it's a damn shame because we've got no tram. Yeah. It's only like 12 stops glorified, glorified.
Starting point is 00:40:23 So you're opposed to the automotive society? You can drive? No. Do you ever, okay, all right? That's fine. My wife doesn't drive. It's a genuine bone of contention in our marriage. But.
Starting point is 00:40:37 I've got no reason to drive. No driving is, you don't got no reason to drive. I know. I have excuses to drive. But you get into town. You walk around, you have a nice time. And I go home. You go to the bookstore in the My Center?
Starting point is 00:40:48 Yeah. You read about history? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You find nice clothes and you sell them on eBay? Yeah. This is the dream. But one day, what if you fall in love with a lady? You know, you get her pregnant, and you've got to provide for a family.
Starting point is 00:41:06 What are your ambitions? Oh. Do you have, you have dreams, but do you also have materialist yearnings for conquest and greatness? Oh, you obviously improve the state. To improve the state, yes. To improve at least one community. If it ever means, like, paddling out the Tonga, just to retile a house, I can do that. That's good.
Starting point is 00:41:24 You want to, like, Gilgamesh. That's every way. You want to make a lasting impact. You want to make a positive change. Oh, yeah. But how do we do it? Well. Is it through seizing power?
Starting point is 00:41:32 Is it through accumulating capital? Do you have a Patreon plug? Because this is where we ask for money. Oh, yeah. Is a Patreon? You need money. Only you. Petron's doing all right.
Starting point is 00:41:43 We've got a thousand people. there recently. Yeah, we're really excited about it. How much they chip in? About five bucks. This lens is the best thing we've ever. You don't know how good you look right now. Hello.
Starting point is 00:41:53 I don't know. Would you like to be on the pot? We'd love to have you. We were talking about the Automotive Society and its pitfalls and how it would be nice if they expanded the rail network to the hills. You want to drive away right now?
Starting point is 00:42:11 You don't want to be a part of the show? God bless you, brother. This older generation. They fucked up the whole country. He said that with love and respect. I love these guys. Man, I love it down here. Have you ever been to the Guardsman?
Starting point is 00:42:29 I've been to the Guardsman many times, so I almost never catch the train. But when I'm walking back from the footie, I love going to the footie. I love Sam McDonnor and I sitting at the Guardsman. I've never been to the Guardsman. You've never been to the Guardsman? Look, I'd get a beer with you now,
Starting point is 00:42:41 except I have quit drinking for Lent, and I'm just fanging for a beer. I'm so close. I might be developing into an alcoholic, Darsie. I never had a problem with it. When I was your age, they called me two beers McCann. Two beers. He has two beers, he wants to go to sleep.
Starting point is 00:42:56 And now... Oh, you're a lightweight. I was a lightweight. And when I got back from America, I had some emotional distress, and I sort of drank through it. Oh, yeah. And let me tell you, as a stopgap, it was incredible. Like, it did work.
Starting point is 00:43:14 I felt a lot better. Fourth child coming. possibly just throwing a not everyone not everyone but like a lot of people told me I was making a big professional mistake by coming back to Adelaide what well you can see that
Starting point is 00:43:28 there's not a lot of it's not a lot of show business opportunities oh yeah there's run a room and that's about it it's really we are down to like one show at the moment and I'm happy to have it at the runner room I love the riner room I love it too have you been down the runner room many many times have you ever you've never seen me do comedy
Starting point is 00:43:45 no because I would have left the country you turned 18. You wouldn't have to get in. Who do you like? Who are your favorite performance? Friendly Jordy's. You like, he's a leftist. He's a proud labor man.
Starting point is 00:43:59 He's a proud labor hand, so we've got that in common. Plus, we're both short. Is he short? I met Jordan once. Actually, no, he's slightly taller than me. He's slightly taller, so. I don't think of that short.
Starting point is 00:44:10 You got small legs. Small, yeah, small legs. Remember that from part one? Who else? Sam again. Who else do you? He's wondering around. He's thinking about different shots.
Starting point is 00:44:19 He's lost. He's just let Sam do his thing. Here's what I've learned about Sam. Sam is like a wild horse that's going to get you where you need to go, you know? Don't you try and pull him in any direction? You'll get kicked off and he'll get sore. Just let him do it his way. You'll have a good time and you'll get where you need to go.
Starting point is 00:44:38 One of those runner-up race horses. We like to be the winning racehorse. I have to agree. We like to be the winning racers. I have to agree because. you're going to give me a lot of money eventually. You won't come on the show? You're circling the block, trying to get on the show.
Starting point is 00:44:54 I think you've got something you want to share. Are you? All right. Did you want to come on the show? It started off I was trying to buy a boat, but I met Darcy a couple weeks ago, and he's come back on the show. I would just stand around and talk to people, have conversations. We were talking about trains earlier, how much we like trains. How much I like this pub in particular?
Starting point is 00:45:19 talking about architecture, good architecture, bad architecture. I don't know, but also we can talk about if you've got anything you want to share with the world, now's not a bad time. No, I understand. I wouldn't worry about it. Where do you share this? This is on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:45:32 We can blow you out if you don't want to be on footage. That is this fine? If you, at any point, before your train comes, you have a burning desire to share something. Sorry? I don't know if you're in the shot, but we can absolutely make sure you're not in the shot. We can absolutely cut you.
Starting point is 00:45:49 be out of the shot if you want. No, you'll be blurred out if you don't. But if you do have anything you want to tell, you know, 30,000 guys in Ohio mostly. That's mostly who the audience is. Weirdly, I love Ohio. No, I'm from here. I'm from here. I love, we're both from Adelaide.
Starting point is 00:46:11 Yeah. But I just moved back here. I'd been living away in America for a while. And then I had to come back because we had a fourth child. And it was getting a bit silly trying to have a family. out of it anyway we're figuring it out that's largely what the podcast is
Starting point is 00:46:26 Darcy oh yeah how much have you caught up on the pod I've only watched that one the one episode where I'm in that's pretty indicative of what the rest of it's I'm having a bit of an existential crisis
Starting point is 00:46:36 with the podcast at the moment oh yeah because you know you got the setup there you got like I was it normally behind the table you get the bell and you ring it and yeah yeah we got the bells oh yeah yeah you can only really fit one person behind that
Starting point is 00:46:48 can't you well could get a bigger table. You could, you know, do school, put them together, you know, duct tape and then have our name plates on it. Our name plates. I was just set up as a classroom. You want to be, you want to be the co-host. You're coming in as co-hoast. This might be my co-host, Darcy. I'm so sorry you saw the inside of my car. It's really not that bad. Once you get after, you know, the mold and the... It's pretty bad.
Starting point is 00:47:14 Wasn't the bird legs sticking out of the rubbish? Darsie flexing his sense of human now and his flights of fancy. People will believe you. Yes, believe everything I say. Everything I say is gospel and completely true. None of it's liable. Why did you start selling, why did you start, how can you tell when you're in an op shop and you see a piece of clothing? How can you see that it's expensive?
Starting point is 00:47:37 Does it have a certain quality or do you just look for like label and? It's more than just the shine of its fabric. If you have a look at the construction and the overall styling of it, then what am I putting on a voice? I feel like I'm... Keep going, keep going. You're saying the garment, you want it to be made with integrity. It's more than just the skin of it. You want a garment with integrity?
Starting point is 00:47:59 Oh, yes. Well-worn, doesn't necessarily mean it's on its way out. It does mean... It's like a leather bag. Just because it has a patina doesn't mean it's about to fall apart. It is... If it's good age, it's... One of two people I've ever met who've used the word patina in a sentence.
Starting point is 00:48:16 Actually, you're the only person I've met who's used the word patina, I think. Who's the other person? There's a Kanye West interview where he uses the word patina. He says, oh, those colours and patinas fit better on a person like me. I had to look up patina. I didn't. How did you get into fashion? How did you, a young man from the northern suburbs of Adelaide, not known as the fashion capital of the world?
Starting point is 00:48:38 Am I being fair? I mean, it's got like 12 people that do. It's mostly women's clothes that are fashion around here. Yeah. But I got into it. I don't know how I got into it. I just, maybe I started picking up on, look, I used to have an Esche phase, like, you know, with a track suit.
Starting point is 00:48:54 No, you were an Escher? Not, not, I wasn't like, you know, you jumped a bus. You were not a violent man, but you were getting into that style of clothes. No, no, people that, you know, actually, people that got rolled, stabbed. Were you wrong? Are you a reformed gang member? No, no. I just knew people, I was just like one of those, yeah, wearing a Adidas track suit
Starting point is 00:49:13 and I have the hat, and I didn't have the bun bag and I didn't listen. I was like I guess it would be like a show of because I didn't listen to the music I didn't care for any of your thinking about it I just did it because I got to hang out with my mates or why not throw a track suit on but you've had a change
Starting point is 00:49:31 you've had an existential shift sure I look like an old man but it doesn't mean like I'm 50 years beyond every teenager no you're a young man I'm just saying you have made you've made a decision oh yeah How did you come to make that decision
Starting point is 00:49:48 about where you were putting that value from a satorial point of view? When I was breaking into an abandoned truck factory with some mates Don't say anything that you're going to get in trouble for. This truck factory was located... No. It's all possibly myth.
Starting point is 00:50:09 You were living a lifestyle. You were living a lifestyle that scared me. No, we won't break it in the homes and, you know, beating people up. No, no. We're just going on abandoned places and acting like, Oh yeah, yeah. Some mate would do graffiti.
Starting point is 00:50:18 But no, when they started going about like, oh yeah, look at the Gentry crane, bro. We can hang one of the Asian fathers from there. True. Because there was like racial violence at Paraloa. Like for like a week. So, nah, I'm good. Like, I'm not kidding.
Starting point is 00:50:33 There was once. I didn't know there was racial violence in Paralyawa. No, but it was like a, like, it was really surface level. It's like a, it's like how, you know, in primary school, you'd try and beat up the guy who'd had a different deck of Pokemon cards. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:49 But with this, it was like, oh, but I, um, he insulted your girl. I'm going to go pick up one of the decorative rocks from the garden. Is this how everyone talks out there? Are there just a lot of Italians? This bro, this way of talking, this esch style. No, there's a lot of ethnic minorities there. And I'm going between it because I don't want to be bullied. No, I love this going between it.
Starting point is 00:51:11 Going between it. You're assuing the vote. the violence, you're dodging it, and the identitarianism. That's not for you. Like, hey, there was this one kid who, as I said, he got really mad because an Aboriginal friend of mine. I don't know if I can say this, because I still need. You're allowed to have an Aboriginal friend on the podcast?
Starting point is 00:51:31 No, no, no, no, no, because they could find where I live and heard me. I got some Aboriginal friends too. Actually, he could have. His house burnt down. I guess his water on the bridge. No, no, he moved. Good night, how are you going? I'm sure you got the PS5 in all.
Starting point is 00:51:44 Yeah. No, but he had the arch nemesis for a week, who, skinny Asian tall, he picked up one of the decorative rocks out of the front office, like one of those ones you have. This is at school? At school. He picked it up. He, like, cavemen, really with all of his strength. And he marched over the oval, threatening to beat this man over with this, you know, larger than dinner plate. like, how old were you all when this was happening?
Starting point is 00:52:17 No, it was like 16, 17.70. But no, he was, he marched it over the oval and he was threatening to bash him when he could even, you know, get past his kneecaps with it. What does it sound ideal? No, that's not really an answer to the sartorial choices. Oh, yeah, I forgot. We got off track.
Starting point is 00:52:31 Boy, did we have a laugh. Well, I got involved because I didn't really, I just started picking up on everyone wearing, you know, sweatpants, which I still do wear sweatpants. Now, I want you to know that I have dressed down deliberately today so that you could shine more brightly because I knew you'd be dressed well. And I'm dressing subdued. Oh, I regret it. So many characters.
Starting point is 00:52:54 There's so many characters coming through here. You're missing out. No, no. I'm with the biggest character of all. I just love how many strange characters there are walking through this beautiful... I mean, it's almost like we're in a corridor of the train station, you know? I guess that is what it is, you know? I mean beforehand.
Starting point is 00:53:15 It was the whole thing, right? It was the whole thing, the train station? They must have had trains, like so many more than this, you could come and go on. What was all of this? This kind, was that just offices? That would have mostly been offices and, like, because it was the, you know, the company headquarters, South Australia Railways. And then obviously here you'd get trains from everywhere. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:39 You can get one from, you know, all the way from Murray Bridge, Interstate, local services, Of course, and then they move it to that weird one in the parklands. Oh yeah, because of parklands, is that? For the overland and for the... Oh, man, you know what? It's not even got a bus line there. You might be too young for this, but I used to... Good on, man.
Starting point is 00:53:57 The sleeper carriages. So you could... It was like eight hours overnight, Adelaide, Melbourne. And there were two beds in the room. And they still have it, Melbourne, Sydney, Brisbane. Well, you can... You know, it takes about eight hours. Yeah, still the overland.
Starting point is 00:54:10 You just line a beautiful band. But we, from Adelaide, Melbourne. We've got to bring that back. It was a tremendous, a really beautiful, it feels like you're in the womb. Being on a night train, lying down on the night train, you know? Better than flying and staying in a hotel summer. Oh. So much better to, you know, midnight, they leave.
Starting point is 00:54:30 But wouldn't that be, you know, you go over, you know, the day before, you watch your football game. Go crows. At the end of it, you go down Flinders Street Station, you pop in, you go to bed, you wake up the next morning. Here you are in the greatest city in the world. With another loss under the belt. Something about, what do you think it is that trains speak to in the human heart? In the autistic human heart, what is it that trains resonate so beautifully? Because I feel it, I love trains.
Starting point is 00:55:00 There's many ways you can read it. Obviously, you know, this mechanical aspect to it, there is, people just, I don't know, people that are just stuck in the regression of an eight-year-old thinking, oh, Tom's the Tanker, you know, stuck in a... Is this a sort of a... Because they can get personified as an iron horse in literary techniques. You think we see the train and we feel it is an iron horse? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:55:24 People do... Makes us feel strong. Because it's a mechanical feat that, you know, converting energy into mechanical force and... But there's something like planes don't make me feel that way. There are train autisms. There's train autism and plane autism is a big... Plain is like...
Starting point is 00:55:41 The plane, it's like, I've got a couple of friends into the planes, and they can, they name it all. It's like them. This guy watches the live streams. This guy watches live streams at the Adelaide Airport where people are doing commentary on. That was a pretty good landing from AA706 coming in hot from Bali. And we can see they're just taxiing now. Yes. And there's like thousands of guys just watching a video.
Starting point is 00:56:06 Oh, yeah. I don't understand that planes to me are a way to get around. There's no romance. There's no love for me in the airport. I've just done so many plane trips. The train. Malta, Ben, I get that. You want to go close to the train?
Starting point is 00:56:22 See, he also has it for the trains. He just yearns to get us inside the train. Fair enough. Well, how about... Yeah, yeah, have a word with... Sorry, man. Have a word. This row of ticketing things is just, like, incredible.
Starting point is 00:56:40 If I can get you guys in the background of that, I know you might need to be standing if we were in that back zone, but I've just seen a milk crate that we could put the laptop on, and then you guys could... All right. Yeah. That'll work. You tell us where to go, we'll go.
Starting point is 00:56:52 He's a wild horse. He's a fire horse. You're not wrong, you're not wrong. Say, you've been flying a lot, haven't you? So much. So you have a lot of experience with those 24-hour flights, right? Yeah. Oh, I went on once and I couldn't get past it.
Starting point is 00:57:08 I don't know. It kills you because you wake up and you're expecting, oh I'm going to be at the airport and no you still got eight hours left yeah suffering my legs went stiff and then you get back I think something's gone wrong with my back I don't know what it is are we going now okay can you hold that please hold on hold on grab the crate grab the crate grab the crate got the crate what about the same oh who cookies about the sandwich go get your sandwich get your sandwich oh okay here come the one to the two to the three you can see there yeah hmm this one mine who who
Starting point is 00:57:42 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I see how long we're allowed to do this for. All right, yeah, you can tuck in. Are you more satisfied with that as a shot? Yes. All right. Yeah, side by side. Bring it in.
Starting point is 00:58:09 Thank God I didn't wear a skirt today. This guy's doing catchphrases. You're doing catch faces, now you're doing callbacks. Come on. Why do you hate the trans? Trans. Why do you hate the trans so much? I thought you love trains.
Starting point is 00:58:24 The important thing, no, I'm just having fun. I'm being silly. You call me off guard there. You got to know, you've got to talk to the mic. I'm sorry, I had multiple people that defend on me. If I said that, I'd be found dead in the street. People kept saying that you were, you've gone back to Rhodesia to fight the bush war. People think I'm a Gallipoli soldier.
Starting point is 00:58:39 What, what, how many outfits could you put together? How many exciting outfits have you got right now in the closet? Uh, at least over 12, very, very, very. What's the word? Over 12? At least 12. You've got a baker's dozen. Flashy outfits?
Starting point is 00:58:55 Really flashy. Things I wouldn't normally wear. Okay. But you know, I can do... Tell me some of these flashy outfits. I can do... I can do beyond, like, a tuxedo. I can do business wear...
Starting point is 00:59:03 You can do tuxedo? Oh yeah. I got one. I should have worn it. I'll wear it next time. No, no, no. I see us doing it. Frank, Darcy, I'm going to be honest.
Starting point is 00:59:12 I see us doing a number of these. That's good. I will continue to pay for your meals and train tickets. Okay, yeah. Pay for my meals. I'm not off the street. street here. You're talking to me like, oh, we're taking this kind soul.
Starting point is 00:59:25 You're literally off the street. I found you on the street. You were true. I thought on my way. He was like, if this works and you do get to be the co-host on the show, Darcy, I was thinking how nice it would be that for the rest of our working relationship, I would be able to say to you, well, I met you're on the street doing nothing. And I just thought that would make me feel very powerful. I think anyone that I meet that way, do you know what I mean? True. But then you become more successful than I am, and then it's a star is born,
Starting point is 00:59:50 situation and your lady gaga and i'm bradley cooper and then i i poo myself at an award show i think that happens how how obtuse does this camera is half a kilometer away it's a powerful lens oh yeah it is i saw the preview like the display this lens let me tell you it was it was a whole song and dance and rigmarole because the thing that allows you to oh man things broken it's not important it broke things broken and they fixed again and then he's spent like an hour trying to peel it off of the camera but it worked in the end Sam always makes it work Sam's a wild horse Sam's a firehorse yes actually what do we have a counter for how many times he said he's a wild horse he's a wild horse he's going to come over and take a phone over this now
Starting point is 01:00:35 you know it's I'm realizing it's odd that I haven't because it's Adelaide we should both have met some people that we know by now uh every time I always catch it just before just before it's never really candid but I I saw some people some familiar faces and voices. With faces and voices, it can get haunting because then you'll just, you'll be passing a crowd and all of a sudden you hear some, you know, some whippersd up, but you haven't seen since year 12. And all the way back in year 12, yeah, 18 months ago. You're a young man. To me, I think you're, I think if you're under 21, you're on an extended gap year. What's your birthday?
Starting point is 01:01:13 It was February, February. February. Yes. So you're a young 20. Young 20. What are you doing with your life, Darcy? You've got ambition, you've got poise, you've got it, you've got gravitas. Yeah, Darcy's got it. Darcy's got it. Is that what I said?
Starting point is 01:01:29 That's the title of the short you did. That's the title of the short. He titled it, Darcy's got it. I said this guy's got it. He said, Darcy's got it. All these, a million people just for a very limited interaction. It's pretty good. Darcy's got it.
Starting point is 01:01:40 What's Darcy going to do with it? I am going to make, you can't just flow into this, but I'm going to try to make the most of it. Not just make the most of it. It's like, oh, you know, throw the dice every now and again. You'll get lucky. You've got to really pine for it. You've got to read about half an hour a day. Okay.
Starting point is 01:01:58 And you slowly climb the rope. Okay. And when you get into what you want, you'll shine. Yeah, and that's what I hope happens to me. You don't know what it is that you want yet. I already talked about, like, are the things. Okay, it's a lot of other things. You want to give something to the city.
Starting point is 01:02:13 That's very abstract. That is very abstract. I love that you're a nativeist to Catalade. I love that you yearn to say. It's also a threat. It's a threat. You're getting people out of the way so you can do the right thing. Do you love Adelaide specifically or the state of South Australia?
Starting point is 01:02:27 I love... The country, Australia. All of South Australia and Adelaide. I hate Melbourne. Brother. Even though they're buying tickets like no other place in the world to me. Oh, should they laugh it up anything? They love me.
Starting point is 01:02:39 I had some bad times in Melbourne. They have like which is cackles. There's good Melbourne. Oh yeah. There's bad Melbourne. Which is all in Melbourne. No, Q is a beautiful place. That's where Robert Menzies has.
Starting point is 01:02:48 his seat. Q. Friend of the show, Robert Menzis. See, people don't even go to Q. People don't even know about Q. Inner Eastern suburb. First stop on the freeway when you leave town. All I know is that I went to Frankston once and... You would love that. It would have been right up your alley. It's Sosbury.
Starting point is 01:03:03 That's like the No, I was going to say it. Home away from home. Do you know what I like? The people with the stalagmite's hopping up their chin and whatnot. It's just like home. If I didn't have to go home for dinner after this, you know what I would do for the evening podcast. I would add a third one and we'd get on the train and we'd go to the Elizabeth
Starting point is 01:03:18 Shopping Center and we'd sit in the car park at night at the Elizabeth Shopping Center how would you feel about that Sam? We'd make a phone call to get some heavy boys
Starting point is 01:03:26 we get some heavy boys boy Clay Clay is getting a phone call for that clay we're going to need you to look ominous nearby I love the Elizabeth
Starting point is 01:03:36 Mall shopping center it's good when people aren't getting stabbed there are people getting stabbed there was it a couple of weeks ago like a couple of months there was some
Starting point is 01:03:44 some poor boy you know got beaten up or stabbed in the middle of the shopping centre I didn't know that yeah it's still really nice to go there still has a sense of community yeah even the...
Starting point is 01:03:57 Don't go after dark stabbings I mean this would happen in America all the time that there would be a shooting you know my wife came home for the library once and she's like there was a shooting at the library today what? Oh no no it was yesterday
Starting point is 01:04:07 it wasn't while she was there but she went in the library and it had happened the day before and then she goes don't worry it was a targeted shooting oh so that's in Texas that's like that's a good shoot it's like he wanted to kill that one
Starting point is 01:04:16 it wasn't going to kill randoms He got the guy he was going for, all right? At the library. At the library. Maybe it was a librarian who was shushing him too loud. I don't know. They don't take too kindly of that sort of business out there. This is, I feel this is better being able to see.
Starting point is 01:04:30 Over there, it ended well in the end with that lady, but she was very, she didn't like that we were doing this. Oh, yeah. People can see this as a bit of a disruption of the, since this is sort of like a second place, it isn't home, but it doesn't work. it's a corridor. You don't expect to be stopped in a corridor.
Starting point is 01:04:50 It's a liminal space, yeah. A liminal, I don't know, but like... It's a public space. It's a public space. It's also, it's a public space between... Yeah, you're right. It's sort of, it's an in-between space. That's what I mean by liminal.
Starting point is 01:05:01 It's like, you're not on the train yet. You're not in town anymore. Oh, yeah. This is, it's a transition. It's a space that only exists so that you can go through it. Oh, yeah. It doesn't exist to be there for any... It's a corridor.
Starting point is 01:05:14 It's literally, we're in a big, beautiful corridor. But I can't believe how few people I know here. I guess I don't know a lot of people. I know a lot of eastern suburbs and western suburbs people. You might be the only guy I know in the northern suburbs, other than my dad when he's campaigning. Oh yeah, but I used to know a bunch. What happened to them? Everyone dies young up there. No, I'm joking. A lot of people move away. True. Have you, a lot of your friends from school have left Adelaide? No, but a lot of their like, actually, I know, I know friends. They usually go to A few of them went to Victoria for manufacturing jobs.
Starting point is 01:05:49 In the middle of nowhere. Middle of nowhere. Like I'm like even more rural than Mildura. They're like a... Sheperton? Yes. Milderer is great. I love Mildura.
Starting point is 01:06:00 The entire Sun Rasia region is one of my favorites. I went on a road trip there once when we were in the inner west and there was a drive-by shooting on our street. It's in Adelaide. It doesn't happen very often, but I think there was some drug manufacturing happening. It's usually like car fires and hair. house fires, but there's like someone left it on the street a month ago. It was a terrible chemical smell at night and then all of a sudden, bang, bang, bang.
Starting point is 01:06:22 And we had a young baby and I was like, all right, honey, in the car. It's like the third episode of the podcast. I start the podcast. It was only audio at the time. And then there's an episode where I hear the bang, just talking in my attic. And then by the end of the episode, I think I've packed everyone into the car and we'd drive off to Wagga Wagga. But we go through Miljura, I think. Am I getting this wrong?
Starting point is 01:06:41 The whole River Arena region. I love that part of the world. But your friend, I'm sorry. I got distracted. I don't want all these big feelings, does it. I don't worry about it.
Starting point is 01:06:48 But you've had friends who've moved off for manufacturing. I'm impressed we've still got manufacturing. Oh, yeah. I think it's rather like
Starting point is 01:06:54 storepersons or like warehouse storepersons or I think some of them went to manufacturing because you know it's just like you work at Big W
Starting point is 01:07:01 10K a year or whatever the hell oh no, it's really it's fine. You're all right man. Do you have anything you want to share on the pod? We'd love to
Starting point is 01:07:07 we were talking about manufacturing jobs in Victoria but really anything that is you know, where are you after? You got 10 minutes Tell, look down the barrel Look down the barrel
Starting point is 01:07:18 Shut someone out Shut someone out They can't hear you Come and tell me tell everyone about your mama You know, I try and involve people I try and, you know No one's as promising as you, Darcy Dassey, ideas for Darcy
Starting point is 01:07:33 I think episode three might be ideas for Darcy I've got ideas for you All right I'll wear my best I want to pitch you ideas Oh yeah Because I think you've got Anyway, we'll find out
Starting point is 01:07:44 Is there anything you'd like to shut down the barrel of the camera before we're done? No, not really. All right. I never have profound thoughts when I'm starting. When I'm off the cuff, it really has to be preformed that I want to have a segment or... Have you got things? Yeah. You could pre-form.
Starting point is 01:08:03 Oh, yeah. You could like a newspaper column. Yeah, but then it'll be weird to sort of fit into this. Because then it's just, it's like an advertisement. It's like in the old talk shows, it's like, yeah, yeah, that was a good joke. And they turned to the screen. And now we talk. about cigarettes.
Starting point is 01:08:17 That's literally what we do on this podcast. Oh yeah, yeah, with the Patreon and how much money you can. All this episode has been cutting to me trying to sell socks and handbags. I don't know, someone's... We did a big episode on Razor Blades recently. Ooh. We did a big episode on Razor Blades. I'm pretty excited about the Razor Blade episode.
Starting point is 01:08:34 Everyone be excited for Razor Blades. We'd better help advertising with us for the mental illness. Oh, yeah. Even though I would never talk to a therapist. Neither. I'm not letting them inside. bro it's like it's not just like it's weak because you have to pay someone to listen to your problems yeah how does why it has to be like actual caring to like that should be a friend or a priest
Starting point is 01:08:56 it should be or best case priest friend yeah that would work out no i agree why would you pay someone and then why would they want you to get better if you're paying them yeah why would they want your problems to be fixed if they have a financial incentive to keep you unwell exactly is someone that I'm paying to tell me to get better really gonna care when it's you know they got 17 other people on the same payroll yeah we're gonna keep going until we find a real point of disagreement that's not really gonna happen are you my dad because like we have so much in common but I know you're Irish and ginger and I'm not are you ginger I'm very
Starting point is 01:09:40 ginger yeah look at that covered in Maramello. Don't forget to sign up to the Patreon of the James Stahle Falls McCatamaran plan. We're going to keep talking to Darcy after this in the next episode. I think we're going to a third episode. I guess we are. And after all, I said,
Starting point is 01:09:59 I do literally nothing. Oh, he's zooming back down. He's zooming back down. Come up.

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