The James Donald Forbes McCann Catamaran Plan - GOOD SIGNS - James Donald Forbes McCann Catamaran Plan - S2EP#2

Episode Date: January 28, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Thank you for listening to this episode of the James Donald Forbes-McCand-Catamaran plan. If you'd like to listen to bonus episodes, go sign up to the Patreon. That's patreon.com. Clom? Ah, we f***ed that. Anyway, look, you'll find a way. Hello and welcome to this episode of the James Donald Forbes-Makhan Catamaran plan. We have a bell.
Starting point is 00:00:37 I went out and I got a bell because I knew that we would, we said last week, didn't we? We said, let's get ourselves a bell. And indeed, a bell has been obtained. Here it is. Beautiful, signifying the commencement of the podcast. It's part of what I'm calling the Great Leap Forward here on the James Donald Forbes-Bacan Catamaran plan. I hope that name hasn't been used before. We are making a great leap forward. We're having at least one new thing come into the podcast.
Starting point is 00:01:08 We're progressives. And what are we progressing towards other than, of course, my personal fiduciary improvement towards boat ownership? We are improving the quality of the podcast because, Last week's season two, debut, huge step up in numbers. And as soon as I get on top of having people advertise on the podcast, that will also result in a step up in money. I mean, at the moment, it's just really nice that more people are part of the podcast,
Starting point is 00:01:39 but yet to be making any money off of it with proper advertising. So we're looking forward to organize. That's on my list. I've still got the cards and you better believe that's on the list is having money because there's more and more people. I mean this backyard is filling up. Also being in a backyard, that's one of the things I'm not chuffed about because I did really want to be inside.
Starting point is 00:02:08 The wind has died down this week but we remain outside. It's too hot. It's 40 degrees. I think in America numbers, That's like a hundred degrees still at night. So we were absolutely no chance of getting in the shed. So still outside. That's one complaint that I have.
Starting point is 00:02:28 A bell? Good. Outside. Bad, but understandable. Having a music act, I thought we were going to get David Blumberg this week playing a bit of bass clarinet. He is busy. We might get him on the next show.
Starting point is 00:02:42 And we have other big music guests coming up as well. Huge. I was going to delay. the admin section. I was thinking of modeling the podcast on the mass and we have the Asperger's. I mean, I think that's helpful, right? Hey? Think about it.
Starting point is 00:03:00 It's a good form. We're going to mirror it in a respectful way. But the announcements are coming too soon. So my apologies for that. I have to figure out what would, you know, if we could have a beautiful welcoming section of the show. I did think, I mean, I had this card. My plan was to just talk about bells for, uh, for a spell.
Starting point is 00:03:20 Well, let's give it a go. Bells! The world's biggest bell. It's in Russia. Did we all know that? It's called the Tsar bell. And it is unringable because it has a big crack in it. And you thought the Liberty Bell had a big crack on it.
Starting point is 00:03:39 No, sir. The crack that they've got running in this Russian bill is vast. And it's a totally unringable bell. and I was looking up other big bells, so I think the current biggest bell is in China, and something like 100, 200 tons. It's something like 100, 200 tons. It's something like 100, 200 tons, this Chinese bell.
Starting point is 00:03:59 And I was thinking, I mean, I felt so beautiful when I got this bell. I'd like us to have a little lav microphone for the bell. We have the, I mean, there's something beautiful and soulful about bells, and I was thinking it's sad that in Australia we don't, or in any country, even the United States. States. The United States is a great power. And they could build now, surely, the biggest bell. If they set their mind to it, America could make a big bell. But they haven't done it. And I was thinking maybe we could do it. Anyway, we'll look into that in the future, but a big bell.
Starting point is 00:04:34 That's what I've got written down. World's biggest bell. It's totally doable. Why not do it? And people will say, oh, poverty alleviation and the disabled. And by the way, we have Wow, we've done a lot for the disabled here today on the podcast. I will make mention that we wanted a sign language person. We've got a sign language person. I'm not going to be drawing too much attention to that. But for anyone who is deaf, you now have sign language. And for anyone who is blind but can hear the gift of a bell.
Starting point is 00:05:10 Of course, to someone who can't see, I'm sure a bell is an incredible mystery. you know they go what you make contact with something and it creates sound what even is contact what is the world and anyway it's funny we're all having a good time and you know who's having especially good time is the deaf and the blind who we welcome here as fans of the james donald falls macand catamaran plan like and subscribe deaf and blind the patrion is no no i won't say no is not all that much worse being afflicted by one of those conditions. The cards I want to get rid of. I'm sick of the cards.
Starting point is 00:05:53 I would like, you know, we're talking about things we do in the future for the show. Teleprompter. I'm a big believer in having a teleprompter. Maybe two teleprompters, one over here, and I could be talking like this. And then I'd be talking like this. And I think that would be really exciting for people if I had a teleprompter. Microphone for Sam. Did we end up getting a microphone for Sam?
Starting point is 00:06:15 Yeah. Nice. Curbing alcohol consumption. Don't giggle. I should say that wasn't Sam giggling. That was Kieran. We've added another. Anyway, this is getting too much.
Starting point is 00:06:36 We've got to have, yes, and there's an audience as well. I mean, it's very exciting. The things happening on the podcast are really moving people, I can tell. 70,000 views on that first episode on YouTube. Goodness knows how many. on the audio-only version because we haven't uploaded it yet because I was away in Sydney
Starting point is 00:06:57 microphone for Sam done advertising not done teleprompter not done curbing alcohol consumption I won't be doing that now but I have during the week I had one alcohol free day because I am a very brave man Singapore is the next
Starting point is 00:07:14 big update we are trying to reach out to Singapore and I've got to say not that many people from Singapore have reached out to help us grow in Singapore. And this is not a threat. This is a statement. No, it's a threat. Malaysia's right there, Singapore. And I've looked up the statistics on how many people in Malaysia can speak English. It's still about 50% and it's a much bigger country. So it's still probably a better number. So Singapore, if you don't act right and come to the party,
Starting point is 00:07:50 I will pivot and become focused on winning Malaysia as quickly as possible. Do I have as big a natural affection for Malaysia as Singapore? No, I don't. I'll be honest about that. Mal Asia, that we all know in Latin. That means bad Asia. But that's the sort of joke I promised to stop making if Singapore doesn't get its act together. And we want a grassroots Singapore's explosion.
Starting point is 00:08:20 of love and excitement for the James Donald, Forbes, McCamaran, Plan. I have one Singapore is fact. Gee, we've got to stop burping all the time. I've got to get off the beers. I haven't a real problem. I was going to say, I was looking up this, it's called National Night.
Starting point is 00:08:42 Someone sent me, oh, you don't know about Singapore, but you don't know about National Night? Oh, nice. We're getting something on over there? National Night is this thing in Singapore. It's a rap. What was sent to me was a rap song. about the importance of having sexual intercourse and breeding more Singaporeese for the nation
Starting point is 00:09:00 because their birth rate has collapsed. Of course, last week on the podcast, we complained about the anti-natalist policies of Li Kuan Yew, who we absolutely haven't made our mind up about. But if I become very successful in Singapore, pending whether or not the Indians or the Chinese of Singapore like me, we'll see how we feel about Li Kuan Yew. But yeah, this national night It was a rap It was about 10 years ago
Starting point is 00:09:29 And it was in heavily Singaporeese accents Of these people rapping And it was about the importance of having a baby for Singapore And I did a little digging into that And it wasn't a government campaign I thought there was this thing called National Night every year Where you went and had a baby for the Singaporeese government No, it was Mentos
Starting point is 00:09:46 The Italian Corporation The Italian They make those mince Mentos I didn't know they were Italian until I was looking at this up this week, and Mentos took it upon themselves to try and raise the Singapore's birth rate for some
Starting point is 00:10:02 reason. National night, with sort of a lewd rap about the importance of having procreative sex intercourse for the country. Country, of course, having the same root word. Root word? Hello, come on. Gee, we're having fun here on the James Donald Foresman Cantamaran plant. Big things coming up on this podcast.
Starting point is 00:10:25 Was there a bell? Yes. Will there be some more bell in the future? Wait and see. At some point my dad will be coming on. But he has walked out of the yard. So we'll see when he comes back. Other breakthroughs are this week.
Starting point is 00:10:43 We're talking about breaking. We talked about this last week. We talked about breaking the non-English-speaking comedy markets. Countries like Japan that do not have stand-up comedy that I feel comfortable that I could necessarily do. Maybe in the same way that we talk to the deaf, maybe in Japan I could have a man who speaks Japanese standing next to me,
Starting point is 00:11:05 and I could say, I could say, fool me once, and he's shouting, you know, we were having fun with it. But I have, I'm very proud to say, I have sent, I saw Kieran J. Kalanen in this week, maybe the most impactful Australian musician since, Is Yothu Yindy a guy or a band? Kieran J. Kellen, absolutely very excited to have him involved.
Starting point is 00:11:33 And he may say that my songs are no good. I've sent him 25 new songs. And I'm very embarrassed and scared because I have, you know, anyway. There's nothing worse than being a someone who does something else and trying to show people your music, trying to be an English teacher with a rock band, trying to be a guy with a podcast and stand-up comedy with, you know, music career.
Starting point is 00:11:55 You want to go and see Keanu Reeves' band tonight? Whoa. Not really. But I guess if Keanu Reeves is there, that would be the reason. So we won as best we can. We want as best we can. I don't know, man. We'll see what Kieran says.
Starting point is 00:12:14 It's Australia Day. I will mention that. It's Australia Day. And I've been having an absolutely wonderful time on Australia Day. I you know it's something people some people think it's a contentious day because no other country in the world celebrates the day that it was colonized and I say you know here's to Australian exceptionalism let's keep on doing things that nobody else out there is doing let's be unique let's not be ashamed of who we are Australia what else is going on but I was I made a list of things that have been happening in America because it's been a lot.
Starting point is 00:12:58 So since I've come here, the following things. Maduro was abducted. The Iranian protests. Some people would say that didn't happen in America, but it's, you know, the Iranian protests are important if you are America. Australia, really unlikely to get all that involved, I would think. The two ice killings and attending protests, there's been a historic cold snap,
Starting point is 00:13:21 and there was all this thing about taking Greenland. Like they were the things that have been in. the news. That's like the top story that you had to be on top of it. You know, if you're in America, it's just everybody was talking about that one thing. And I cannot tell you how different the media environment is in Australia where really the only thing that's happened here since I've come back is, I think free speech we might have got rid of it. And I've been out talking to people about it and no one cares. No one knows. They go, oh yeah, is that? We're doing something with that. What's going on there? We've got. We've got.
Starting point is 00:13:55 I don't know, don't we? We're taking it away? What's happening? The extent to which we do not live in a media state and that you're allowed to just do your own thing and have your own interests in Australia, except for sport, you'd better know what's happening in football. You are actually allowed to opt out of many kinds of sport in America.
Starting point is 00:14:14 You are not permitted to opt out of the football code in your state. Singapore, we already went through that. We'll talk about that later. And I think we'll actually We'll save probably the rest of the cards Until our guests are out here When there's a lull in speaking to the guests How long have we been going for?
Starting point is 00:14:38 Ladies and gentlemen We'll be right back You are listening to The James Donald Fobuzz-McCand Catamara Play Like share, subscribe, Paitreo And we're back With educator
Starting point is 00:14:53 Uh Historian Historian Journalist and dad, my dad, Darrell McCann. Dad, thanks for coming on the podcast. It's great, James. Great to be here. Last time we were chatting like this was in Austin.
Starting point is 00:15:12 That's right. Were you on the pot in Austin? In Austin. It was just before we had to leave that house. I was taking out the rubbish and you were. We've had some production value increases. Yeah, I noticed. We've had some overtures to a persons of different
Starting point is 00:15:27 abilities and backgrounds because we we love everybody here on the show including family. In the order of family. You spent today thinking about you writing an article about the country formerly known as Persia today. Are you expecting it to go back to that now? No, no, I'm just saying what did you write? So, yeah, I'm writing about the whole history since 1979, which is an interesting year when not to get myself into trouble, but these people are fascists. What do you mean by these people?
Starting point is 00:16:04 Well, I'm talking about the clerics. They're hominius, are theocratic fascists. I mean, my understanding is they served a very important role in the community. They were the only literate men. Not in 1979, though. Well, the Shah had done his best to destroy the virtue of women on both her personal and institutional level. and also by educating them. And the clerics.
Starting point is 00:16:32 Calerics? I don't know that much about it. I don't know that much about it. I know that my friend Lily is... In America? I think she's back in Canada. Yeah, but she's not in Iran. She's not there right now.
Starting point is 00:16:46 No. But I wonder if the, as a, you know, question, as a historian. Yeah. Over time, I mean, what year is the revolution? 1970 something? 79. They come to power on April Fool's Day
Starting point is 00:17:00 1979. Who's the fool? Yeah. The fools were those who invited them in. But the, what I'm saying... Do you know how many people
Starting point is 00:17:09 have died as we speak? Hold on, I got a question. I don't know. In the world? They're being murdered by the regime, yeah. In the last week. I see different numbers
Starting point is 00:17:18 by different people. Yeah, yeah. So maybe between 10,000 and 20,000. Would be one estimate. That's not the lowest estimate to the highest estimate. I think so, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:26 That's the low and high numbers of the high estimate. Yeah, I think that's... Because I'm pretty sure the regime is saying no one has been murdered. No, there are dissidents have been subdued permanent. No, no, they're saying it. It's not murder if you're a traitor. Is what they would say? Is that what they would say, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:40 Well, I would guess it. I know that the Ayatollah... Did you know that the Persians... Mm-hmm. ...loved to drink. I believe it? Yes. And the Persians that I've met in my life...
Starting point is 00:17:50 Apparently, Shiraz is the city in Iran is where Shiraz comes from. And the whole Persian or Iranian culture has a whole depth to it, whole different dimensions to it. And they include, for example, drinking wine. And that has been forbidden since 1979. Imagine if you had your alcohol forbidden since 1979. Might have had a bit of shot in the womb. but all of these countries
Starting point is 00:18:26 that have the not guys it's just a funny thing to say yeah yeah all of these all these countries that have regime change and then have large numbers of emigrays over many years
Starting point is 00:18:39 I would think that the level of that the people who would be there to support a counter-revolution have left and are now having nice lives in Berkeley and in Manhattan Oh, that's the simple. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:18:52 No, that's a sublime. So Cuba has managed to hold on the Castro regime for over half a century. Yeah. Because they seem to have said, go to Florida. If you're a dissident, if you're a writer, if you're a homosex, if you want to traffic in the cocaine, off you go to Florida. You do that over there. And you're welcome to go. And only if you are sort of a no hope, you know, you know.
Starting point is 00:19:20 lover of old cars. Stay at home type, would you stay in Cuba? I mean, I imagine... But the interesting thing in Iran is it's 95% of the population they think. Love Israel,
Starting point is 00:19:34 love America. It seems like big numbers for the Muslim world. As you know, from your school days, you only need 5% of the population to retain power. That sounds like, frankly...
Starting point is 00:19:49 Yeah. You only need Lefty propaganda that you've held onto after being a Trotskyist. I think that there's a... I mean, what... Explain your point. Explain your point. Yeah, I mean, I would say, we have this idea that these countries have a dictatorial elite that are clinging to power against. I don't believe.
Starting point is 00:20:18 I think the Germans were Nazis. I think the Chinese are either communists or go along to get along types. I think, you know, the Cubans probably, and then after the regime is over, they go, oh, we were persecuted, come in, give us the foreign money. Yeah, I mean, it's an interesting, it's wrong, but it's an interesting point of view because you only need 5%. If, if... I'm saying I've seen footage in Korea, yeah, when the last...
Starting point is 00:20:48 Sung or Kim Kim, whichever is the family name when he died. Yeah, and everyone was crying. Yeah, but everyone was crying. But what happened to the person who wasn't crying enough? Well, everyone was crying. No, but someone wasn't crying as much as the rest.
Starting point is 00:21:02 I've been to funerals where no one's been crying. Yeah, but they were all crying there. And everyone was crying. And then we come along and we go, oh, they're being forced to cry. What a terrible thing. The rulers do. Yeah, but they did arrest the person who wasn't crying.
Starting point is 00:21:16 Well, I didn't see that. Yeah, it's there. I want to see footage for that. The man who was... Yeah, it was... Yeah, their media didn't cover it that. Their media didn't cover it. Yes, but who are we to question?
Starting point is 00:21:27 Who are we to question? Who are we to question? This Iranian regime, which I know you're in joking, that you admire so much. The Shah had problems. He had some minor problems compared to what's going on in Iran's sin. He arrested the prime minister and put him under the house arrest until he was dead.
Starting point is 00:21:45 Is that not right? Like a lawfully... elected prime minister. In 1954. Yeah, yeah. We'll go back to the start. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I mean, it wasn't perfect, but it's like if you take... It wasn't perfect. Well, no, look at Russia
Starting point is 00:22:00 before Lenin. Look at Whitlam. Before Lenin. Hey? Look at Whitlam. What about him? Removed. So I noticed you've said that CIA was involved in that. Did I? Yes, you did. When did I said it? Yeah, you said it
Starting point is 00:22:16 in passing. I read... I read Paul Kelly's book on that. Paul Keller is usually pretty good about these things. Yeah, well, if he said that. It's incredible when he takes a break from writing music and doing heroin to write a book about how does he find time to write columns for the Australian? But Paul Kelly's two Paul Kelly's.
Starting point is 00:22:30 That's really a half a percent of a joke. Yeah, yeah. I think what was happening with John Kerr's stranger and the timeline of it is more unusual than I had thought going into it. And when you read like official like, there wasn't a big problem. When you really dig into it
Starting point is 00:22:47 And you read, you know, Cameron Diaries and you read primary sources. You didn't read the Cameron Diaries? I did. I was there at university. I was a communist at the time, Jane. There are strange things that were happening where I'm not even saying the CIA did or didn't get involved. I'm saying there are things that for some reason nobody has picked up on that it would have made sense for the CIA to get involved. Goff Whitlam was trying to take Barthist Party money.
Starting point is 00:23:13 So you're making correspondence of something. with causation, which are two separate things. I've never believed that. Yeah, but that's what you're saying. You say, well, they had a reason to do it. You're sounding a bit like Candace here. Let me say this. Something really strange happened,
Starting point is 00:23:27 which was that, as has never happened before or since in this country. I just happened in New South Wales, the state level. Right. Okay. Yeah. But, and we'll get Jack in to talk about Jack Lang later.
Starting point is 00:23:43 But Jack Lang also a weird revolutionary situation brewing there. In fact, since you're... It's never happened federally in 120 years. I mean, it happens in the United States every year on the year, like clockwork, and then the government just shuts down. But in this country, the Senate shut down. We think, is it Neville Bonner, who is definitely going to cave? I love Neville.
Starting point is 00:24:05 If I'm getting that name right? If I'm getting that name wrong, it's terrible. If I'm getting it right, that's more than anyone my age and complexion has ever done to learn about Aboriginal history. but I'm just saying there's enough going on and the Americans will be at sea here what I'm saying is we had a prime minister who was removed by his own governor general
Starting point is 00:24:26 little strange that governor general who was running around with young women at night you know who was grieving who was on arts boards that were CIA funded you know they were there was money from there was money from the CIA
Starting point is 00:24:40 that he was receiving and allocating Hey, James, did you know that an Egyptian Air Force plane was in Canberra that very day? Oh, I see what's happening. I see what's happening. Well, my trigonometry episode has never come out. So my public defense of Candace Owens, I'm just saying, let's find out if Bridget McRohn has a penis. And at the moment, as far as I'm concerned, and I'm sorry to say penis in the presence of my father,
Starting point is 00:25:08 but it's sort of Schroding his penis at the moment. And time will tell if Candace Owens has been a good journalist or a bad person. I think time is told I haven't seen a doctor's analysis of Bridget McGrine's anatomy yet It seems like you'd come out with that the next day Yeah well admittedly it is surprised You can just do a blood test
Starting point is 00:25:29 I don't know why they haven't just done a blood test That is true There's less invasive ways Of uh Yeah it's weird Yeah yeah yeah yeah No I agree with that Show me the chromosomes
Starting point is 00:25:39 Show me the chromosomes And in fact that they haven't shown the chromosomes Yeah no on that is That is possible. Possible. Unlikely. Even I would concede unlikely. But it's not impossible.
Starting point is 00:25:51 That Michelle Obama and Bridget McCron would be men? Are these people? They say, both. They say, Big Mike. You saw this in America. You heard people saying Big Mike? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That doesn't...
Starting point is 00:26:03 I mean, the problem with Michelle is that she's a nasty, spiteful person. I would now... I actually really, I like Michelle. She is. I like Michelle. She is. She is. And she hates her husband.
Starting point is 00:26:13 I like both the Obama's. I think they have a warm loving marriage. You're more conspiratorial than I am. No, I think most people would. I think she says it. She actually said on her podcast. We all complain about our husbands and wine. Not me, obviously.
Starting point is 00:26:30 Yeah, yeah, yeah. But what else is new? In the world. You know what? It would be good to have you talk about some of the... Can I say that I've not had a drink since January the first for everyone who's having a dry January. All right.
Starting point is 00:26:46 You know what we're good to talk about with Dad is these big American talking points because we tried to do the Aussie one about free speech and clearly neither of us knows very much about it. We're just going like, I don't reckon that they would do that, would they? That seems wrong. But Maduro, I mean, you're a big,
Starting point is 00:27:05 these will be big for you. Maduro abduction. You think that's okay? I think it's just fantastic. Why? He's a sovereign leader. of a different country? Well, because I'm not
Starting point is 00:27:14 unlike some others, I'm very big on democracy. Okay. Very big on it. Very big on legitimate democracy. And so he has already... 2020 election. Real or fake?
Starting point is 00:27:28 He shouldn't. 2020 election. Oh, that's a very good one. That's a good one. Well, we'll move on. All right. I wouldn't know. I wouldn't know.
Starting point is 00:27:38 You're saying he was illegitimate? He's illegitimate. But Trump has not hastened to have like elections or to give the opposition party power, he's trying to work with the remnants of the Maduro regime to extract the oil? Yes, yes, yes, yes. There will be a transition. I think it'll work out. I think it'll work out. Greenland has announced to ruin. Greenland, yeah. I'll do all. Yeah, do you know how many people live in Greenland? About 40 to 60,000. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But does that mean that their right to self-determination is somehow, I mean, how many people live in the top end of Australia? Yeah, so you can't
Starting point is 00:28:09 have self-determination unless you can defend yourself. How many people live in the northern territory. Yes, but they don't have self-determination. They're a part of Australia. They're a part of Australia. Yeah, yeah. So we can only have Australia as long as we can protect ourselves or have American protection.
Starting point is 00:28:24 That's the fact. I heard this argument being made and I fundamentally, I mean, Ukraine can't defend itself. Ukraine has taken more money to defend itself. I think they're doing pretty well. They have taken more money in real terms. Yeah, but that's part of the deal. If you've got friends, if you've got friends who give you some money. They've taken more money.
Starting point is 00:28:42 in real terms than the entirety of the Marshall Plan I think I'm it's like it's roughly the same to fight a three year war as to build all the infrastructure after World War II in all of Europe so
Starting point is 00:28:59 in a way you know it's a good point you're making James because I said it's a good point because Ukraine should have been allowed into NATO or not and once it wasn't allowed into NATO If you feel it.
Starting point is 00:29:13 Yeah. Yeah. Once you're not allowed into NATO, once you're not given that protection, yeah, you're just waiting for someone. No, actually, this fits into. Are we both recording into the same thing? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:24 You say something? Hello. Say one more thing? Hello. Wait, just leave a gap after I talk and then say something. Hello. Hello. That's incredible.
Starting point is 00:29:36 You can do that with one of them? Hello. Hello. Oh, you're on there too? Kieran, are you on there? I couldn't see. I mean, you could... Can I say a serious thing about that?
Starting point is 00:29:50 Yeah, but I could say... Okay. You're just going to say seriously. Serious thing about Greenland. So I think what's going to happen is there'll be some arrangement between America, Denmark, NATO and Greenland, in which they will remain some, you know, connected to Denmark. But America will... Which is great, will have so much military control over the space, which I think is very important.
Starting point is 00:30:11 Isn't that what they've got now? I think they're going to have even more. Even more. Is there one military base in Western Europe that America won't? China's moving in on Greenland. So what China does is they buy their way into countries, as you know, and they won't be able to do it. Why would I know that especially?
Starting point is 00:30:32 What everyone knows. You make it sound like I've been honey trapped in some way. Yeah, yeah. Go on. And we love my brother's Chinese wife. And we have basically stopped suspecting. that she is a spy. So,
Starting point is 00:30:48 we don't want to conflate communism with the Chinese people. Correlation. Which goes back to my original argument is don't conflate the regime in Iran with the people in Iran. Well, I have never been a communist. But as people were very incensed on the...
Starting point is 00:31:08 There's a big shout at, the IU Garbage Boys. I hope to come back. I hope to come back to do that. Second part. but they were really taken aback that you and I wonder if this is a different between the American milieu in the 70s and the Australian milieu is that they seemed shocked that anyone would have been a communist at that time yeah and here half the Labor Party were communists yeah it was compulsory almost in the politics department was compulsory
Starting point is 00:31:33 yeah and there was one man there who wasn't a Marxist but he was a social democrat one professor and people said oh um we one out of maybe I don't know 10 15 people was not a Marxist. And do you think that ever really went away? Marxism turned into something different. I was thinking today that one of the great things of having been brainwashed, one of the purposes of going to university, is to be brainwashed and then to get rid of all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:32:04 You're saying good to be brainwashed? Because then you can get rid of it. And by getting rid of it, you sort of got a vaccination against ideology, ever since. So the guys, what was the name of that show you were saying? This to me is classic baby boomer. But I'm not Baby Boomer.
Starting point is 00:32:20 I'm Generation W. James. This is what he says. He's come up with a new generation between the baby boomers and Gen X called Generation W only used by dad. Only ever,
Starting point is 00:32:34 not one person has ever power. You've never been in a party. And how when someone goes, I'm Generation W. And you've gone, I invented that. It's never once. Maybe people will start using it.
Starting point is 00:32:43 Well, to be fair, it has not caught on. We're Generation W on this podcast. Generation winning. Generation winning. Generation winning. But, winning. But remember, I'm only 11 years old, 12 years old, by the end of the 60s. But the 70s is the long 60s.
Starting point is 00:33:01 Well, in Australia. I think America moved on. I'm going to say this. Yeah. Have you ever seen the Marriage of Figaro? Yeah. Have you ever seen, you know, Armadaeus? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:10 Where he talks about how he's doing the Marriage of Figaro, and they're going to start with one person. and then another person comes on and then another person comes on well first of all I'd like to invite you to the next time we do the podcast
Starting point is 00:33:19 and secondly I'd like to invite our first guest Jack Blanche back onto the show and my thought was come around Jackie come around come around and my thought was
Starting point is 00:33:29 we you know if you guys would be keen we would just keep having Sam hates it Sam hates this idea hello everybody Dang it's, you know, creatively, Sam, though, we would say it's really fun. Isn't this fun?
Starting point is 00:33:52 Tell me that's a bad shot. Bad shot. Do we want a cart and I'll get a chair? I can step out. This is getting very hard. Is it too much? All right, you got. Thanks, Brando.
Starting point is 00:34:02 Oh, sorry, Brandon. I didn't see you there. You know how a lighter? Excellent work. Excellent work. Now we will go through the remaining cards here. On the James Donald Fores-Bacon, Akatermaran plan. I had notes, though, James.
Starting point is 00:34:17 You had notes, yeah? I had notes. I had things to bring up. Lay them on me. On the bells. Have you ever seen Andre Rublev? I saw the first half and I got a little bored. Oh, man, it's great.
Starting point is 00:34:34 The end is all about bells. And it's great. Oh, wow. It's great. I'll get in. I'll get in. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, it's just a little movie tip for the people out there.
Starting point is 00:34:45 Andre Rublev, excellent. I loved Stalker. Sam's director. Yeah. Some things I wanted to address about last week, James. Because Sam is so unhappy with me. Sam is furious. Oh, dear, dear, dear, dear, dear.
Starting point is 00:35:03 And fair enough, because I'm causing him to do a lot of work. We could come. You know what I said that would be good about this podcast is simplicity and repeatability? Yeah. And then where did we have to sit? Well, this is... This brings me to my... This brings me to my comment, James,
Starting point is 00:35:20 which is a lot of people thought that the outside was a green screen in the comments on last week's podcast. Is it a green screen, fellas? Could we assure people... I thought that my beer falling into my lap from the breeze would have assured people that... You'd never do that inside. Dad, how are you? You two know each other.
Starting point is 00:35:35 So, Jack and I, actually, we're going to start a political party one Wednesday night. Do you remember that? I do remember that, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it didn't go anywhere, but we had a good night. Darrell, can I also say that I agree with everything that you said on this podcast right up until the moment that you said Michelle Obama hates her husband? Everything before that, James is completely wrong about the Iranian Revolution, really wrong about it.
Starting point is 00:35:57 You were right about it, and then you went insane on Michelle Obama. So, so I really hate saying bad things about people, personal things. I'd rather discuss ideas. But Megan Kelly. is a bad person. Is that what you're going to say? Okay, right, right. She's great, but she has repeatedly had bits on this new podcast by Michelle.
Starting point is 00:36:22 And Michelle cannot, Michelle cannot stop saying terrible things about married life, how tough it was to be in the White House. I wouldn't have believed it. It would be hard to be married to the President of the United States. We're going to get through the cards. I'm losing control of the pod. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:36:37 Sam Clark is my right-hand man. But who will I keep as my left-hand man? and which two men for the left and right feet. And will we ever have a man for the genital? Hopefully not. We'll move through the... Oh, I was thinking about clean Mormon evangelical comedy and that whole market.
Starting point is 00:37:00 But it's a big audience of clean Mormon evangelicals, the clean people. But then they all, when I meet them and I watch the stuff that they make, very retarded. I don't know if we're back to saying retarded in Australia yet. America retarded's taken off. There's no... What do you say when I say to you that I'm in...
Starting point is 00:37:18 You don't like retired. No. No. I was going to say that. I love people with different abilities. Whatever. Yeah. So, but I... You say you're with the younger people.
Starting point is 00:37:30 Yeah. And I want to show a little bit of James McCann. Yeah. And it's a bit tricky because of the swearing. And I know everyone's going to say, just do it. But is that sound like a dad talking? No, no. It sounds like a gender.
Starting point is 00:37:44 problem to me. It turns like an email I received on my way into America that resulted in me not having a job. Ah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Was that the problem? It was the language. It was the AIDS needle. It was the... Few things.
Starting point is 00:38:00 You know, there's an article recently that we discussed last week in the Catholic Herald. How do we make a piece of... How do we understand, James McKean? Yeah, he tried to do it. He's a good guy. Yeah, and he likes your work. He's a good guy. Which we should say that I like your work.
Starting point is 00:38:17 People don't realize I have, I think I watched your first performance when you were 17. You would have. And I thought. No bigger fan than Donald. Yeah, I thought this guy is great and he's my son. How weird. And then I remember you came to the second performance. You said, that wasn't as good.
Starting point is 00:38:35 Oh, I never would have said that. You said, the room was different. And I remember, because I won that one too. And I got to the third round, which was the final of this comedy competition. And you said, something was not there. Did I really say that? Oh, you've always, I, there's no negativity. Oh, it sounds negative.
Starting point is 00:38:51 I remember my first hour-long show, you did come along, and I'll never forget what you said afterwards. Well, is it, what is it? Second act had problems. Whenever people talk about the supportive parents, I always, and people, that'll go, I always believed in your comedy. I can remember, I just distinctly, the drive home after my first.
Starting point is 00:39:11 I said that, did I? We've got it's got a Yeah but he came and he gave you notes Because he loves you That's true affection I always saw You were the second best Australian comedian Wow
Starting point is 00:39:23 And you can move up one Barry Humphrey's number one Yeah sure I bet he's passed away West in peace Barry Humphreys I'm way Give us both five minutes right now I saw him in London
Starting point is 00:39:33 Crush Hey He was both five minutes Yeah he was dead But he was the best He was in Sydney when he died And I wanted to go to the hospital. Really?
Starting point is 00:39:44 I missed it. Mm-hmm. I had no way in. I had nowhere going, but I thought, nice to give flowers. I could have bought a pair of scrubs and snuck in. And he was older than a generation. Generation W. Hadda Gadsby's in her regards.
Starting point is 00:39:58 She hated him. Did she? She hated. Did she why? Because of the cross-dressing. She's a day as well, I think. Hey, here's one. Powerful words.
Starting point is 00:40:09 Powerful stuff. powerful stuff I just like saying powerful stuff I wrote that card a long time ago this isn't one of the notes you said from last week as it James because it's not your best that's why I got it's safe but what I'd like to add to that now
Starting point is 00:40:24 is I was in Sydney this week and there's a young comedian whose name I forget I ate some of his halal snack pack which here we call the AB anyway it's not important for anybody the important thing is what his thing is on stage
Starting point is 00:40:37 is he says powerful stuff I didn't know but he says a line that bombs. People told me about this. Right. So he says something is really not funny. And then he goes, hmm, powerful stuff. It's great.
Starting point is 00:40:46 And that's his caption. Yeah. And you're like this. He has a podcast. I think it's called Nick Mullen and Friends. Oh, that's great. It's him talking for 15 minutes. And then he steals an episode of Come 10 and puts that after him talking.
Starting point is 00:40:59 I haven't alerted Nick Mullen to that yet, but what powerful stuff. That's really funny. Powerful stuff. Oh, what happened to that comedian that you loved? And it had a very small, audience and you come to the Adelaide Festival. You and your friends would go and see him. Charles Barrington? Yes. Does he still exist?
Starting point is 00:41:17 I'd love to have Charles Barrington on the pot. You should give him a... Charles Barrington's the name. And acting is the game. I've got his raw comedy set committed to heart and I've shown many Americans Charles Barrington. Late at night after a couple of cheeky brewers. You remember Charles Barrington, Brando?
Starting point is 00:41:35 Wow. Well, we'll finish it off. Well, I was going to circle back to one other thing though, James, because just to circle back to last week, we were talking about sponsorship. Yes. And Brandon had a great idea. What was that?
Starting point is 00:41:49 Call Dr. Tim Cooper. Ah. We're always drinking Cooper's on the pod. I would change my beer allegiance if Tim Cooper does not sponsor me. And I'm going to open tender. Open tender right now. Open tender. If you would like to become the alcohol sponsor of
Starting point is 00:42:08 The James Donald Forbes McCann, Catamaran plan. Nice. And obviously, Coopers would be an easy one. And this is why I usually buying a way. Everyone here. Everyone here. How many of us? But in a Mark Barnes, New Pauldy way.
Starting point is 00:42:20 You've got to go Coopers, James. We say that it was the best beer in the world. And there are a lot of great American beers, a lot of great Australian beers. But would we all agree? Cooper's Palau. The best in the world. The best in the world. So I'll say this before we sign off is, I love you.
Starting point is 00:42:33 I miss you. I want you and need you. Kater Moran Ho. I will say that at some point, Dad is going to give some lectures on politics and history and at Earnmalley. I'm going to record them and put them up on the channel, but this is, we want people to be introduced, we don't want people to go, who is this man? We want people to go, Dazza's back.
Starting point is 00:42:54 You know? So this is an introduction to Dazza. And, of course, they might get another introduction to Dazza next week. Maybe Jackie as well. How do you like that? I feel this one might be even bigger. Affirmation. I think this podcast episode might even be bigger and more successful than the first one.
Starting point is 00:43:21 First one, four days. 70,000 people watching. I reckon this time we're cracking the 100. I reckon we're cracking the heart. Can you feel it? There's been an energy in the room. Sign language was beautiful. Thank you to Brandon.
Starting point is 00:43:36 Affirmation. Was there sign language? Yes, there was. Oh, I didn't see it. Yes, there was. I didn't see it. Do you see it? Don't call.
Starting point is 00:43:45 It was unmissable. The wind has died down a little bit. You know what I believe in the future? I believe we're going to make it inside. I think we're going to have a conversation with Sam Clark because we don't want him to resent us because he's very important for the project. But I think we'll have to say, Sam, it's pretty funny.
Starting point is 00:44:02 In the comments, do you think we should... All right, it's this thing in the marriage of Figaro in Amidaius, where he's talking about it, where he goes, one man comes in, and then another man, and then another man. And you know how many... And they go, Mozart, this is crazy. He goes, 30 men on stage.
Starting point is 00:44:16 And I thought it would be funny if the guests just keep are coming back. Here are some things that I feel coming up in the future. Ladders. We're going to need. We're going to need some way of getting all these guests on. Here's my thought. Here's my thought for the future. We stay on the outside for a bit, but we start getting ladders.
Starting point is 00:44:33 And then the guests, as they go through the weeks, they grow onto the ladders. Like fruit on a tree. Like the jury in survival. Survivor. Yes. Yes, like the jury in survival. See, you like that. See, you like that.
Starting point is 00:44:46 You've got to find where it hits in the dopamine sensor for this man to get him to commit to it. And then, too hard to mic everybody up, you know? So what I say is they're all up there on the ladders, popular like a tree. And there's one minute. We get the boom mic. We get a broom. We have the show. And then that one person, they raise their hand.
Starting point is 00:45:02 And they're coming around. And we're going, ah, Mr. McCann, in the most venerable position on the tree. What would you like to say? And Jack, in a shameful, low-hanging sense. of the maybe working our way up there and he comes around and Brandon by that point
Starting point is 00:45:18 you know maybe Brandon gets to graduate from sign language to tree man speaking part or maybe he's signing on the tree I mean can you say the options are limited
Starting point is 00:45:30 no one else is pushing the podcast the way the podcast is being pushed here and now every having a car yeah we're having a couple drinks do we have any more no we drank the wall that's what I'm talking we're having a good time
Starting point is 00:45:45 We're growing it. The podcast is going in strange new directions. It's not still. It's not a show. We're moving. We're progressive. This is truly the Tarkovsky of podcasting. Let's hope we don't record the best ever episode where there's a lot of nuclear fallout.
Starting point is 00:46:06 Thank you for coming on. I cannot wait to do the Darry-McChan lectures. Tell us a little bit about it. Some of the lectures coming up. Well, the lecture sounds a little tedious, doesn't it? But the first one is. I was an eyewitness to the democracy war movement in Beijing in 1979. If you're interested, my photographs, just Google Democracy Wall and you'll see my photographs.
Starting point is 00:46:29 It's pretty cool. And you'll be talking about democracy in China. Not Chinese democracy, the album. No, no. And, yeah, I will. And then we had, I thought we'll get an audience along. Yeah. And then they could ask you questions afterwards.
Starting point is 00:46:49 Yeah, but don't. Yeah, you don't have to get a loaded audience. I was thinking of a positive audience. I'll be there, Darrell. Okay. There are many people who would like that. I actually wrote this with Jack in mind as the audience. An intelligent...
Starting point is 00:47:00 Do you tell you this? No. That's true. Jack's the audience. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you better be in the audience. I'll be there. Okay.
Starting point is 00:47:07 It's just a series of pictures of bound feet. That's what gets Jack going. That was what the democracy wall was all about. they were saying, bring back bound feet. It was like how the, you know, when the Taliban left, the Bach Basi came out to play. I'd like to think there's still a through line of Chinese society that thinks of the removal of bound feet
Starting point is 00:47:29 as a cruel Western ideological imposition. Yeah, and there's those women, those widows getting incinerated in India still. Suti, yeah, Suti. Yeah, Suti. I think it's called Suti. It's a good name, isn't it? Souti. Sweep and so.
Starting point is 00:47:46 We had a dog called sooty. We did. It's been great. You want that cut? That was not the most damaging part of the show. Thank you for being a part of it. We thank everybody involved in the James Donald Fulbs-Bucant Catamaran plan. Don't forget to check out that Patreon.
Starting point is 00:48:05 Sponsorship, inbound, very soon. Huge things coming. I love you, I miss here. I want you. I need you. Goodbye, everybody. I thought we could have credits pop up at the end. It was just an idea.
Starting point is 00:48:19 Anyway, that's it. Thanks for coming on. Thank you.

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