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Hello and welcome to this episode of the James Donald Fours we can catamaran plan big day,
big tiring taxing day, a kind thanks to the good people of Omaha who sold out my show,
sold out midweek show in Omaha, can you believe it, what a joy.
And equal to that my stern remonstrances to the airline
carrier who were unable to get me there so that show has been cancelled and it's
being rebooked I'm very sorry and rather than risk the same thing happening
tomorrow I am flying with CJ wonderful opener all the way flying to he's over
there he's him flying to Iowa tonight
We'll spend the tomorrow and I were into the show in Des Moines tomorrow night and at the moment we are in
Detroit
May I just say what a very fine
Fine airport indeed they have here in Detroit people say Detroit is a city past its prime well I
Can't speak for the city. I've never been to it, but the airport itself
magnificent. Not enough nice things to say about it. I'm as flat as a
tack. When the flight was getting canceled, we were flying to Dallas and
we were gonna fly on and if I just got delayed and delayed and delayed and we're
obviously gonna miss the next one. Scram. Can we fly in via Las Vegas? Can we fly in via Arizona? Do I have to
go to LA? Is Denver an issue? Nothing was an issue, nothing was happening. Can I get
in an Uber now to take me to San Antonio to take me to Denver? I mean
it's at some point you you just go, oh none of this is working. Can I fly into
Kansas City and drive for 3 and 1 1
hours, and maybe they can push the show back by an hour
and a half?
I'm sorry.
I'm told this sort of thing is quite common.
Now, I don't want to be the guy who always just says, oh,
but in Australia, listen to me, in Australia, every major
city, there's only five.
So there's like 20 flights a day to every major city.
And if you miss one, the next one's coming in a half now in America. This is a
revelation if you miss it
You might get one more shot, but if you have to be there in the evening, you're done
And then we've been going around this airport trying to find the New Yorker I've started I'm trying to join the mainstream elite
to find the New Yorker I've started I'm trying to join the mainstream elite and I thought you'd have to do that by reading the New Yorker and I cannot find
a copy of the New Yorker Wow it is beautiful to watch him tag off it does
fill me with joy and satisfaction it seemed like a much better idea to do the
podcast at an airport before I started doing
the podcast at an airport.
I was trying to find the multidisciplinary prayer room to do it in, but we don't have
time.
Actually, I have less to say than I had hoped that I would.
I wrote a poem and I'll read you the poem.
This is the next book of poem. Oh, my wife's texted me. That's so nice. Give me a call
tonight if you're free. I love you. I miss you. I'm sorry it's all so difficult. What
a sweet woman. What a very sweet woman. This is a despairing poem that I wrote on the flight.
CJ hearing it for the first time. All that has done shall be undone. All that has been
left undone shall be buttoned up,
that which is half done shall remain so for the time being. The proud will be humbled,
the humble will be celebrated, the mighty will be crippled, the crippled will be made strong,
the humble cripple will be celebrated and strong, the proud and mighty really have it coming.
The humble and mighty will be crippled,
but get the best possible care.
The crippled and proud will be questioned thoroughly.
Where there is discord, we will bring harmony.
Where there is harmony, complicated jazz chords.
Complicated jazz chords will become different complicated
jazz chords, except for passing chords will become different complicated jazz chords
except for passing chords which won't go anywhere and the song will be over. The
hungry will be fed. The full will be fed to the hungry. Those who are asleep will
be woken up. Those who are awake will stay awake. Those who are sleepy will be
given coffee and a cigarette and encouraged to keep going.
Old women will have full upright milky breasts, they'll be huge.
Old men will have perpetual erections and beg to be flaccid again,
but they will not be able to be flaccid.
The hairy man will be made smooth, the smooth man will be made even more smooth.
Amputees will have more limbs than they could possibly ever know what to do with.
Deaf and blind people will switch ailments.
People who are both deaf and blind will lose taste and smell also, and touch from the waist
up.
And everybody must pay a tax.
Those experiencing financial hardship can get an extension those who
don't do not need an extension will be taxed again and again until they relent
and ask for an extension and it's going to be sun showers non-stop you'll always
need a light jacket but that's all you're going to need and then I gave up
writing that one I tried to watch Mission Impossible and let me tell you
that first Mission Impossible movie I I thought, well this is an impossible mission.
There's absolutely no way they'll be doing that. I looked, I checked the menu, they've made about eight.
I'm starting to think that mission might be more possible than we've been led to believe.
CJ, do you want to come over here and say something now?
You don't want to come in? Maybe you'll come in later on.
Boomer at the hotel. I'm... I'm crumbling.
I'm getting looks. I didn't mean to be getting looks.
Hi. Did you want to come on the podcast?
I understand. I don't really want to be doing it either.
Well, what else is happening in the world?
Oh, the riots were kicking off. There were riots in Austin two nights ago. I should
share some thoughts on that.
I got a couple minutes and if I don't finish them, I'll finish them when we're at the
hotel.
Yeah, there were riots in Austin as there are...
Well, they don't like saying riots. They like saying mostly peaceful protests,
which is a term that I now understand having seen it. It's mostly peaceful
You know there's 200 people there
198 of them are peaceful and one of them is trying to kick in a chick-fil-a and
And and someone threw a cone at the comedy mothership sign broke some neon and I came out
I came out from my set and I
Said what's going on because everyone was out front of the club and they said there was a protest. It's moved on that way
This is like the anti ice
Protests is over that way and I I didn't walk I ran to see it. I wanted to get right in them
I wanted to see it
Is that us? No, it's to Knoxville. Anyway, I went down to the protest and
It was like, you know, they were chanting we are peaceful. You are violent
We are peaceful. You are violent. They'd left a trail of debris in their wake, but but they were not the violent ones. I
Guess I'll wait for that to finish
Will you know okay?
Yeah
And how much does this guy have to say
So I got into the protest and it was yeah I noticed immediately on getting to the protest
that I look like an American liberal.
Ah, hold on.
Hello?
Hello?
No, you've got the wrong number.
This is James.
That's alright man.
You have a good one
you know I got to the process and I realized that I sort of look like an
American liberal and then the the cops showed up like the cops were already
there but they showed up in force they had like huge military vehicles and
things that made loud noises and then a guy got got out of like a people
character something that looked like out of a video game it was huge and
terrifying and he had a like look like a paintball gun but I think it was rubber bullets and I which
I recognized from that Australian journalist weirdly being shot by rubber
bullets in LA and yeah I legged it I ran away as fast as I had ran there I ran
away and I remember I started farting I wasn't farting on my run there but boy I
was farting on the run I was like oh no and I think I got I started farting. I wasn't farting on my run there, but boy I was farting on the run.
I was like, oh no.
And I think I got, I think there was tear gas in the air
because my eyes was stingy and my throat was sore.
Well, I was also, yeah, different kind of gas.
There was two kinds of gas.
There was the tear gas and the gas that I produced
that would bring a tear to your eye.
And I, but I also realized later
I was running with a Xenon.
I had a nicotine pouch
So that might have had a negative effect and that might not have been tear gas
But then I got home and my wife was like you think there was tear gas take a shower take a cold shower
So I take the cold shower
I go why did you make me she goes wash all your body with with soap and water and wash your hair with shampoo
Cold water and I said afterwards I said it what why why did it why did it have to be that she said hot water
Will open up your pores and the tear gas will get in you got to have cold water to close the pores
I said, how do you know this? She's like, I know these things I
Didn't I didn't know she'd ever had tear gas deployed on her previously and
Now well, this is a big
Yeah, I have to we have to we have to go I'll continue I've got a thought I've got a big... Yeah, we have to go.
I've got a thought.
I've got a big thought.
Because there's protests coming up.
And everybody knows there's protests coming up on
Saturday, big ones.
They're sponsored by corporations and stuff.
And it's an interesting vibe in America now, where I can
just say this now.
Everyone's sort of aware that something's going to kick off.
And they don't know how big it's going to be, but they know
something's coming. Anyway, I have probably more to how big it's going to be but they know something's coming
Anyway, I have probably more to say. Here's the last thing I say in Australia all the protests I ever saw happened during the day and it was just like 5,000 lesbians
Going for a walk with their kids and then they'd wrap it up. But in the States
Big burly men at night. It is a different vibe. I can see why the police have that reaction
Alright, we have to go. have to go we have to go
Well beautiful Des Moines, Iowa
Beautiful Des Moines, Iowa. We managed to get on the flight. We managed to get to Iowa. We have a gig tomorrow night and short of disaster, God forbid, I will be doing that
show in Iowa. Des Moines. Des Moines is beautiful. I love it. The airport is small, 90s bricks, colorful things. It's good.
And the problems of the world seem very far away here.
Downstairs checking into this hotel and the lady's like,
Have you ever been to Iowa before? And CJ said, I've never been to Iowa.
I don't do a good Louisiana accent and he has a unique voice and I shouldn't
try and pigeonhole it. He said I've never been to Iowa before and they said oh the
ladies behind the desk they said oh you're gonna have a good time and then
they broke and they said no it's a lot of corn.
It's nice to be here. I'm, uh, I haven't expelled enough energy today to go to sleep, but after so much
tension and moving around, I'm, uh, have I said that right?
I think I've said that wrong.
I can't go to sleep and I can't do anything.
That's the basic problem I'm in.
Uh, so we get the podcast. I don't remember if sleep and I can't do anything. That's the basic problem. I mean So we get the podcast
All this is a bad start I just text my girlfriend
And I've had a good time and I appreciate staying in the house, but I did write this to my girlfriend
I feel like I'm on a sleepover. That's never ending
and I feel like I'm on a sleepover that's never ending.
Can you come and pick me up? Can you come and pick me up?
Well, it's how, you know, when you're at your friend's house
and they've got to go out
and your parents haven't picked you up yet
and you're there with their family
and it's a bit weird.
This is what it is, John.
My friend has gone off to his job and I must go.
Amos is staying at my house with my family and I'm gone.
I must have played a long game to usurp my position.
I kept thinking your son was calling me dad but it turns out he was calling me Jack.
Why is he calling you Jack?
The little one, I don't know.
He says, hey Jack, because your friend Jack had saved you.
Yes, we have ever so many people coming through.
It's really, it's very nearly an open house.
It's a bit of a problem.
No, it's actually not. What's funny is I said to Taylor,
oh my God, he just called me Dad.
And she goes, no he didn't. He said Jack.
And I'm like, pretty sure he said Dad.
And she's like, no he didn't.
No.
I'm like, oh.
And then I knocked you and nearly knocked your son's
tooth out. Oh, God.
I had to get out of my house.
We don't want to say too much on that in case child
services get involved. I just want to get your opinion
very quickly. Is America headed
for a civil war this weekend?
Amos Gill.
Well, that's why your son lost his tooth.
I took him to the rally and he said, leave.
Your son said, I have my papers.
Why don't you?
Have you got a gig coming up in the downtown?
Will you get to go and experience the peaceful protest, mostly peaceful protests?
Yes, I'm more concerned than you are.
I've been calling you all day saying they're gonna have a Latino George Floyd moment.
And then-
You moved on from lunchtime.
At lunchtime you told me we were going to war with Iran.
Oh yes, I'm the boy that calls crisis.
Ha ha ha.
To be honest with you, I said to Taylor,
it's all gonna happen.
And I showed her some tweets. And she goes,
oh, that's pretty bad. And then an hour later, she goes, what happened? And I said, nothing yet.
I've been made a fool again by Twitter. Yeah, I mean, I was trying to find something about the
Huthys attacking the Ben Gurion airport. It's not even it's not registered. It's a tit for tat,
because they took out the airport the other day.
I don't know that anyone's, I don't know how bad the damage is.
It's not on Drudge Report at all.
Well, no, because it was, what happened that got me interested was Donald Trump was in
a tuxedo going through the Kennedy Center to watch the Lemmys and they said, why did
you pull all the diplomats out of the Middle East?
And he goes, you'll have to see later on.
Yeah, that's a...
Lemiz during a time of public unrest, Lemiz is a weird one to go and see.
Because what happens at the end of Lemiz?
The government crushes the plucky rebels.
Who fail.
Mr. Mr. President, Mr. President, Mr. President, what do you have to say about these rebels
in LA?
They will wet themselves in blood.
It's my favorite part of this musical I saw tonight. You know this Javert, he does a job.
We love Javert and Ice.
We love Javert.
He gets his man.
Hugh Jackman.
Actually it's two immigrants in La Mise, the movie version.
That's a New Zealander and an Australian.
Neither of them are French.
This Javert, he's a great guy. Great worker. I like to think now that Trump has come out of it,
right now at this moment we're recording this, Trump is walking around the White House going,
Master of the house, keeper of the inn. Maybe he's dropping a little. And the tigers come at night.
Big tigers.
This poor little girl, she had to sell her hair and her teeth.
Then she prostituted herself.
You sell, see, if she, bad business.
You keep the teeth and the hair and you prostitute yourself then.
Then you make better money.
You're not gonna get, no one's gonna buy get it. No one's gonna buy that procedure.
No one's gonna buy it.
Ugly mouth.
No one wants the toothless, short-haired woman. They don't want her. I don't do a good Trump.
That must have been a really bad, bad prostitute if you're selling tape.
Hook, aww. Hookah. I don't think he'd say prostitute.
Prostitutes I haven't
understand in American accent.
Prostitute, prostitute.
Prostitute.
It is definitely excellent.
Woman of the night!
That's all we need
right now for the President of the United States
when we have a national day
of revolutionary rallies. That's all we need right now for the President of the United States when we have a national day of
revolutionary rallies is for him to be watching the Mears.
It doesn't. It's uh, you know what I want him to watch? You know what's bad? Next week he's going to Caligula, so I have a little concern.
You've got Benjamin Netanyahu there going, Mr. President. I think it would be right if you went to go and see Fiddler on the Roof.
There's a good message in Fiddler on the Roof.
Master of Vows, Keeper of the Inn.
No, I'm a little get some water. Oh
How good was the aquarium I loved it blue zoo small aquarium
dignified the more the kind of aquarium you would hope for in a place like, Iowa As far as you can possibly be away from ocean
I've actually never been an aquarium where you feed them that was like interesting they
Feed them and get them to suck on my hand that was that was weird very tickly
I mean that I've heard that at like some like Asian spas where you can put your feet in like water and the fish will eat your
Thin your the dead skin on your feet. Yeah, I have heard about but I don't I've never seen it
It wasn't pleasant. I don't think I would have I was very happy to pull my hand out of it
Yeah, it really kind of it it irked you real funny was the lady in the tank. The lady in the tank was so good
It was the lady in the tank the lady in the tank was so good
dang Scrub the fact that she just was like she couldn't see us and it was just her in a very vulnerable position
Wonderful time had it now one thing CJ has no so we just we went to the mall and right next to the mall
There was the blue zoo, which is the aquarium and as we were and wonderful mall wonderful bonds enough
There are wonderful Barnes and Nobles
And as we were walking, and wonderful mall, wonderful Barnes and Nobles, there are wonderful Barnes and Nobles.
Every one of them.
We saw a lot of guns, we saw a lot of candy, a gun and candy shop.
Right next to each other.
In the same building.
In the same, it was the same business.
Same business.
Yeah.
Guns and candy.
Same store.
They had guns, candy, Legos.
It's a mix tape.
Bow and arrows.
Bow and arrows were much more expensive than the guns.
Yeah.
That was weird.
Weird. And then the samurai swords, I mean,
they had like a long, extensive-
I did think about buying a wooden samurai sword
and getting my skills up.
A very large, extensive collection of swords.
And I can't help but notice, you having noticed,
fat women in Des Moines,
a lot of advertisements for fat women.
So many advertisements and I loved all of them.
CJ likes a big girl.
I like a curvy gal.
I like a, we call them healthy in the South.
I like the-
These heifers.
I like the healthy lady and then-
I'm sorry, I'm dinging hard.
Dinging hard, ding it.
No, yeah, I mean, I don't like, yeah, I mean, we talked about it.
I don't, you know, I appreciate, um...
They're rebooking the Omaha show.
We've rebooked the Omaha show successfully.
I'm sorry to interrupt you.
Perfect.
The Heaviset ladies.
Another Heaviset city.
Omaha.
Omaha.
I appreciate corn farmers and what they do for this country.
I'm just gonna turn that down there so we don't get any more dings about this Omaha Oh, wow. I appreciate corn farmers and what they do for this country.
It's going to turn that down there so we don't get any more things about this Omaha show. I still feel very bad about the Omaha show. Glad I'll be coming back.
And I get why. I mean, I can't imagine the letdown of a sold out show and then everybody having to.
Those poor people. And I get all amped up excited to see them.
But what I will say is nice is because it's sold out and the show was booked
when things were, you know, not as going as well as they are now.
The rebooking is on a Saturday and I get two of them.
We get two shows in Omaha and that's on sale now.
That is going to be great shows.
Oh mercy me.
What else did we do?
I mean, I sat, I finally got the New Yorker.
Finally, after a lot of searching. I mean, every airport did not have the new, I mean, what I finally got the New Yorker finally after a lot of searching
I mean every airport did not have an the new I mean, what is I don't know
I don't know if somebody really fucked up on their ad team or their rep team or something
But they did not I would say that the liberal agenda is not as entrenched as I had thought that it was I thought it was
Omnipresent it's actually in much of the South quite difficult to get your hands on the New Yorker
I love that I tried reading the other magazines because we in Barnes and Noble they had heaps of them in much of the south quite difficult to get your hands on the New Yorker. I
tried reading the other magazines because in Bards and Noble they had heaps
of them I thought because after the New York last time I bought The Economist I
was like maybe every week I'll buy a different magazine and then I started
flipping through like Mother Mrs. Anne. Those sunglasses really go well with the
New Yorker. Yeah I read their article on um, there was kind of detached and then they,
when they have an editorial opinion, they save it just for like a week moment at the
end. So I'm reading this article on Curtis, Curtis Yavin, who was mendacious mob. Like
he was sort of the intellectual godfather of the, uh, dark enlightenment it was called,
but uh, sort of, um, anti-democracy. He's openly anti-democracy doesn't like
democracy thinks America should be run like a company by a CEO
oh he loves that guy well he's he's very tight with Peter teal and JD Vance so in
the jockeying of different tech reactionary whatever we want to call them, futurist reactionaries. That's not bad. He's
really in. He's in with Peter Thiel very hard and they're rolling out this thing about like,
you know, everyone's going to have a social credit. I don't know, Amos Gill keeps talking
to me about it. Won't stop talking to me about how the techno surveillance state is coming.
But so he doesn't like democracy. He really believes in monarchy and sort of
dictatorship. And he's buddies with JD Vance, and a bunch of
people in the magosphere. And so this article is like, pretty
relaxed. If it concerns the New Yorker, and this is all the
stuff that they supposedly love. It's like eight pages, I'm sitting in the Barnes and Noble reading it. I didn't
buy it this time I just read it in the Barnes and Noble there was one article I wanted to
read. Pretty relaxed and then right at the end devastating, withering where they're like
they're going through at the start he's so smart he's such a smart guy he knows so much
and then it's such a pivot and they talk to his ex-girlfriend who's got a child with him
and you know it's like yeah he likes to cut people down.
He likes to be the, he needs to talk.
It needs to be him.
And then there's little murmurings coming in.
He needs to be, he wants to be a good boy.
He wants a pat on the head.
And then it ends with this withering page where they go and they see the guy who coined
the great replacement theory.
He's a French guy, but it's this thought that like Western governments are shipping in a
bunch of black and brown people, often Muslims, because the whites aren't having kids anymore.
And the guy who came up with it is, I think by regulation, he's a Jewish gay French guy.
So the thought that he's far right.
He was trying to come up with a theory to explain this that wasn't anti-Semitic, because
people usually blame the Jews, and he's blaming capitalism.
Sorry, this is going on. Anyway, so he's like, this French
guy is a big, big influence to Curtis Yavin, who the article's about. And then they go to, like the
journalist goes with him to go and visit this guy in his French castle. And he writes like, this Curtis
Yavin was like whimpering. He was like a whimpering little boy who wanted a pat on the head, just wanted
to be liked, just kept asking questions
and kept being, listen to me, talk to me,
talk to me, pay attention to me.
And at the end, you know, Curtis Yelvin gets in the car
with the journalist and goes, was it good?
Was it good?
And the journalist is like, this French guy
couldn't stand this guy, he's an immature little boy.
But like, you gotta weigh it through 12,000 words
of weighing up this man's ideas and not judging
him and not really interacting with the central claims that he makes.
And then at the end, it's like, this guy's an idiot and his arguments don't make sense
and he's just a greedy little boy.
And the future is dark, man.
It's looking bleak.
It is bleak.
And then we read that, I mean, we read between that article and then you read that Adbreakers
magazine.
Yes.
Have you got your Adbreakers magazine?
I do.
It's right there in that bed.
Tell us more about the magazine. Yeah, it's, um, it's, it's interesting.
It's like a political magazine, but it reads like a, I don't know. It's like,
it's almost have poet, poetic moments in it. There is poetry. Yes.
And there's like old, it's almost like a meme of like these old pictures.
It's kind of, it's very political. I mean, you know,
I don't agree with necessarily everything in it. I mean, the's kind of, it's very political. I mean, you know, I don't agree with necessarily
everything in it.
I mean, the idea of like,
the idea of like, getting rid of your car,
getting rid of your phone.
Consumeless.
Completely, totally consume nothing.
It's kind of, it's like, yeah, there's obviously
a point where you're gonna have to consume,
I'm gonna need a phone, I have to work,
I have to do things, but it's like, there is parts of it that I agree with, that it's like, yes, I
mean, realistically, if we want to change the world, we have to change the way we're
operating.
You said a funny thing, which was, you said they're all about disengaging from corporations,
living quiet, small lives, and then it's a glossy magazine in Barnes and Noble, which
is, I mean, I guess that's the audience who needs it.
You've got to be in the world to share the message.
I'm not having a phone.
I have bought and will be getting soon.
And I bought the minimal phone.
What's dad about?
Explain it.
It's got a QWERTY keyboard.
But does it look like an iPhone at all?
No, it looks like a Blackberry with a Kindle screen.
Whoa.
Yeah, so you can do everything on it.
I've tried the dumb phone before and I ran into real trouble because I try and get an Uber somewhere or look up a map. It's
a real bother. I just want a phone that can do, I'm paying almost no attention to except
yeah, if I have to look something up or get somewhere or I want to listen to a song, I
can do that. And I think this is the phone to do it. And you can take pictures on it.
Yes. High quality images.
I think they look like they're black and white.
But we'll find out.
They're black and white on the screen.
But they might be good in color in real life.
Because see, that wouldn't be bad if you carried maybe,
maybe you go old school, get a camera.
I'm going to carry that camera around.
And you take pictures when you take them.
I mean, whatever.
You go in 90s with it.
Yeah.
How many pictures do I need?
Right.
How many pictures do we really need?
This is my, the technology is starting to catch up
where it's easier to participate in the world
and do it in a thoughtful way.
Because the technology's not, I've tried it,
for me it hasn't been there, it's getting closer.
I know you have to give things up and suffer.
But I mean now that I have an agent and a manager,
I wonder if it can all be done with a phone call.
You know one thing exciting that I found out,
you can call Uber.
Really?
Yeah, you can call them up.
Yeah, you can call Uber.
Good luck communicating to them.
I think you probably have to talk to a robot.
I could say it over and over.
I mean that wouldn't, I mean shit.
I mean I'd rather, I mean shit. I mean, I'd rather I mean shit.
I don't know.
I've ordered some in Austin and you're you're you're lucky.
You're lucky to get English, unfortunately.
But I mean, I don't think you actually talk to the driver.
I think you talk to AI call center and dispatch it to you.
It's for the I appreciate the people that don't speak English.
Don't don't don't get me wrong.
I know they need to work.
That's good on people in Austin who don't speak English.
What do you think is happening?
This weekend with these big protests. So you think that's gonna go down?
You've been here for the last few I was not here for the last few rounds of American civil
Yeah Demonstration gonna be more rounds of it. It's gonna get I think it will probably get more violent
It'll be it'll get to it will come to a boiling point
Right. We're like the same thing with George Floyd thing,
where it becomes-
You think George Floyd thing is coming as well?
Cause I was talking to Amos and he's like,
they're gonna do it George.
I think he was saying someone will organize
a police overreach.
Like the protesters will get themselves in a position
where a cop does a dumb thing.
And then it's gonna ratchet way up.
That's exactly what's gonna happen.
Because the, I mean, it's already kinda, I mean, you know, some of it has already kind of happened
where like the riots or the protests in LA, the riots or the protests became a riot, became
like a riot whenever the police overstepped with some kind of violence.
And then those violence went, got clipped and posted online and then everybody
saw them and then now they're like, fuck that, we're going to do this in Austin, we're going
to do this in Chicago, we're going to do this.
So then yeah, the odds of it happening one more time where it gets ramped up again, it's
like, yeah, it's going to happen.
How does that feel?
I mean, as an American, this seems to happen, like DeSantis in Florida, I just saw a clip
of him saying, if they surround you, here's the other thing,
a lot of the context when these things are reported on
is absent, so it's only because I know a little bit
of America, but I know that in the aftermath
of the Rodney King thing, people were on the freeway,
and mostly peaceful protestors got a little less peaceful,
and some guys were ripped out of their car and beaten up
I don't know if people thought but it seems like if you're in your car if they hit the freeway if the if the mob
Hits the freeway Wow
Watch out and so DeSantis is saying if they come at you in your car
Run them down and keep going and if you hit him is not your fault
They're in for you go that just seems likely to ratchet up more.
It's I when does this is just like Peter out.
I well, this is what I don't under here is a thing, man.
I get protests and I understand, you know, a certain extent
getting your voice out there and want to shake the pot.
But I'm saying that whenever you're taking rocks from the side of the highway and just
starting to throw them at random cars, I just don't get that.
I don't understand what...
And again, most of the people are not doing that.
No, they're not.
They seem to have...
I'm seeing a lot of videos online I'm seeing where it's like, I just don't understand.
I'm seeing...
It's weird because the right are going, this is very violent, and then the left are going,
this is what the protests are. It's a woman with a bubble wand
That's what's going on out there. I think they're both happening
Here's seems like footage of both of them happening is happening. I just read something about
Some a Buddhist guy in Japan. They were there. I guess not treating Buddhists too good in Japan
Yeah, and he set himself on fire. That happened to, I think it was like,
I think it was like in the 60s or something.
It was like a long time ago.
I know there was a Vietnam protest
where a guy set himself on fire.
It was this day in history yesterday,
and I read about it, and I was like, dang.
Like that to me is like a selfless protest,
where that was the days before there was any social medialess protest where, you know,
that was the day before there was any social media,
just kind of, you did something wild
and you kind of harmed yourself or, you know,
you threatened to harm yourself.
It was a little harder to go viral back then.
But I'm saying like, it was not this,
I'm gonna fuck all these people's cars up
then send a message, I'm gonna post it online or I'm gonna get I'm gonna do some wild shit
So people I'm gonna I'm gonna break into a target and fucking video it so I go viral
It's all very like selfish what I tell you what I was selfish protesting that selfless protesting where it's like
Oh, I'm gonna I'm gonna risk my life. I'm gonna risk my
You know who did that was Greta Thunberg this week, and I'm a... I like Greta Thunberg.
Yeah, I know a lot of people watching this... a lot of my audience...
I don't know how that overlaps with Greta Thunberg's audience, but I would recommend watching her going on a boat from Europe to America.
I think it's in winter. They sail the Atlantic, but she got on that boat and got herself arrested by Israel by trying to sail into Gaza.
Now, I don't know how much food
they actually managed to bring on that boat. It was a small boat. They're like, we're breaking
the blockade with aid. And I think they might've eaten a lot of it on the way over. And so it was
largely symbolic. And then they got them on a boat and they gave them sandwiches. And then the IDF
get to come out with pictures of like Reddithunberg getting a sandwich. And they're like, how abusive
can we be? We gave her a sandwich. Right. but i i when i thought that i thought yeah getting celebrities to go into a war zone and get
themselves arrested that's quite i got my attention yeah i mean that's what you know that's what that's
what kind of is that's what this uh ad breakers thing's all uh at the about at the end where
they're saying you know stop these reactive protests. Like whenever something happens, you were reacting to it and we're kind of like
doing these protests that seem to be obviously doing nothing.
Like it doesn't really do change.
I mean, if you sort yourself out, that's what they're saying.
Yeah.
It's like, well, also is the kind of revolution that I would, if I was Barnes
and Noble, if I was the biggest corporate bricks and mortar bookseller, the kind
of protest that I'd want is for people to go quiet
and start reading more books and not kick in my store.
Well, yeah, that too, but it's also, that's a good point.
Yeah, no more looting whenever that message is spread around.
You see, looting isn't cool.
No, but I feel like it's, that's a good point,
but I feel like- Personal empowerment
is the real revolution. I feel like to me that's a good point, but I feel like no empowerment is the real revolution
I feel like to me that there is some truth to that. I mean if it is like yeah, I mean
The the the protests and shit that we've done time and time again
It seems like they don't really work
What actually and it also kind of just fuels the fire of the corporations and the consumerism?
Cuz what what it what are they gonna do?
I mean, you're breaking a target, you bust all their shit.
It's not like they're hurting.
They're getting almost-
They're gonna bounce back.
They're getting an advertisement base.
It's free marketing for them.
Someone looting the target and pushing the button
to try and get them to open the cabinet for the Sox.
Oh yeah, it's on Fox News, whatever.
And it's like, oh yeah, it's like targets everywhere.
It's like, oh, big break into targets, more fucking money for them.
You know what I mean?
Like, and then it's like, or people that are posting all this shit online, more Instagram
followers, it's just more marketing money for Instagram.
It's like, it's almost a protest or fueling these giant corporations to make more money.
I think these, these no Kings protest that's coming up on Saturday is backed by a lot of
corporate.
I looked at the coming together offline, coming together offline and not and not,
you know, really including any of these boycotting,
coming together offline and doing all these things that are like, I don't know.
That's what it's saying on here.
It's like organising yourself with like a community
and making an impact that way locally.
And you know what I mean?
Yeah, I feel like that's the way more so than like just going from major city to
major city making viral videos. I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong but I don't.
Food for thought there from CJ. Maybe I'm crazy. Hey. I want change. You may say I'm
a dreamer but I'm not the only one. I hope someday you will join us'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one I
Hope someday you will join us. Oh, I am I believe in the change I expect I respect people that want the change to happen. I'm just trying to figure out maybe better ways to do it
That's all I storming. Here's my theory America likes having
Yeah, just it's such an uptight society most of the time. You know, and just
to have it really blow out makes people go like it like white people probably feel a
little sterile in their suburbs after all going, oh, the houses look the same and it's
too safe and it's too quiet. And then something like this happens and you feel better about
being in the suburbs. And you go like I didn't want to move to the suburbs until I lived in the vibrant area.
And that's really made me enjoy the suburbs
in a way that I could never have
if there hadn't been schizophrenics milling about
in the park, shouting at nothing and gunshots at night
and literally of other things.
But, and I feel like, you know, for the downtrodden,
you get for a moment, you get to feel like,
whoa, what's going on now?
Here we go.
You get all, you go to that
and then you get to go back to your, you know.
You know what's crazy and this is what I noticed,
all that anxiety, all that angst,
all that like built up aggression happens to society
in America whenever it is not football season.
Is that so?
For whatever reason.
And remember, remember whenever George Floyd? Yeah. And whatever reason. Remember? Well, the weather's nice.
Remember whenever George Floyd?
Yeah.
And all that shit happened.
I don't remember.
I was here for the weather.
All that happened and football wasn't on.
Then whenever football came on, they were like, all right,
let's put fucking in slavery or something on the end,
in races or whatever, on the on the field.
And then it ended.
It did end.
And let's just keep the aggression on the field, huh?
And everyone's like, GAH! And you know what I mean? Baseball finals, the playoffs are happening right now.
Sorry, not baseball, the basketball. Nobody gives a fuck. You need regular season football so that everybody's team, everybody's team.
It's not angry enough. I need my anger displaced somewhere. You need a more violent sport. I need my anger to be towards
all of the Cowboys' organizations.
I like this.
I need to hate the Philadelphia Eagles.
That's what it is.
It's all these rivalries and all these guys,
they get hammered every weekend,
they just let it all out.
They're like, fuck the Eagles!
And they watch them lose or they watch them win
and they just get mad.
They go to the games and they flick
off the fucking rival fans
And they fight a lot of fights you miss it, don't you it's just what it is
I mean guy and it's a lot of men, you know, I mean a lot of it's that we need to displace the sanger
It's a big strong man. And again, it's another problem with America. We're all we're all
The you could say it all you can say you're not all you want.
Everybody that is involved in these protests,
we're all part of the problem.
It's facts.
We go to McDonald's, we watch the NFL.
I mean, we buy Nikes.
We're just bought in.
And at some point, there needs to be a mental shift
out of that.
And I mean, I've been saying it for a while.
America don't need to make shit for another 10 years.
We don't need to make another coat hanger.
We don't need to make another shirt.
We don't need to make a pair of jeans.
We have all of it.
Go to Facebook marketplace, go to Goodwill, go to fucking TJ Maxx, whatever.
All this shit is just hand me down shit that we can just buy for 10 years.
We don't need to make nothing.
You really don't.
Everybody doesn't.
This is a view.
Okay, so when it's- Am I crazy?
No, but in Australia, we do this way more.
And the op shops, we call them op shops.
But your Goodwill, it's much,
much more expensive in Australia.
Cause like hipsters make up a bigger percentage
of the population, I think.
Yeah.
And we go, so I was a big thrift store guy.
And Romain, love going to the Goodwill.
But there is a real social opprobrium in America.
There's a looking down, oh, it's Goodwill.
Like Goodwill still sounds like something bad.
And there's a mental barrier to go to Goodwill.
And you know what, if we can get these tariffs back up,
I think people might start to appreciate
how good Goodwill is.
Goodwill's terrific.
Yeah, I mean, we just need to...
Midwest Goodwill?
Wow!
Because everybody wants to buy new shit.
Everybody wants new shit.
And it's like, buddy, that is being part of the problem right there.
That is what you're doing, how you're thinking is being part of the problem.
I'm sorry.
I know.
I love new clothes too.
And I love new cars.
And I love new phones.
And I love the NFL.
I get it. But I'm saying at some point you have to realize that is being part of the problem. Sorry, I
Mean I'm just saying if you want change if you want change in that way the way that they all these people are protesting
You want I just stop you got to replace it with something and that's genuine. I think the yeah go outside
We'll go outside and go love your family. Yeah. Pray. I was building towards
prayer. I mean what the fuck? That's the answer that we're all ignoring. I get it. It's not
as fun as a new pair of Nike's. I get it. I get it. CJ is a youth pastor. I really enjoy.
But I'm just saying it's just not the answer, man. You're buying new iPhones. You don't
need one. I have a fucking iPhone X
from, you know, seven years ago or some shit.
Mine's still got a button on the screen.
Still works.
And you know the worst thing about having the button on the screen? This is the SE,
which I'm replacing with again the smaller, hopefully crappier one.
That's right.
Worst thing that happens is sometimes I'll be in a green room with rich people and they'll
go, he's got a button on the screen?
This guy?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
What are you doing?
You're getting your phone, man.
And you just go, yeah.
That's it.
I know there's peer pressure to being part of the fucking problem.
But so much of the people think it's peer pressure.
Damn, that's some dirty ass shoes.
Yeah, it is, bitch.
It's just a guy having something to say.
He wants something to say.
There's a little point of difference.
I know.
Oh, how many fucking guys out there are just dying for something to say? Holy wants something to say, there's a little point of difference. And he gets to say something. Oh, how many fucking guys out there
just dying for something to say?
Holy fuck.
Don't let him say it.
I mean, I say dumb stuff
to have something to say all the time.
Say it.
Guys at the bar, they have nothing interesting to say.
They say the same damn shit.
Holy fuck.
I mean, talk, I went to the hotel,
but I didn't tell you this.
There's an episode that hasn't come out yet
where CJ gets real angry.
Angry CJ is is I think,
Well, you're firing me up now.
Gonna be successful CJ.
You, you, I did not, I did not tell you this last night.
I went to the, I went to the hotel bar.
Yeah.
And I drank and ate wings and yeah, I watched the NBA.
Yeah.
Part of the problem.
I sat there and I watched it and I'm just a part of being, I think, at least for
me, part of being just a guy that has to do this stand-up crap
There is a part of like you have to you have to soak up
What other people are doing?
Do you hear there's three guys at the bar who were chatting so I heard them talking afterwards when you I didn't know you'd
Been down there. I came down there at like midnight to eat some Burger King. I had a whopper part of the problem and
Loved it. They didn't I couldn't order any sauce and Uber Eats, and any ketchup.
But I heard these three men talking at the bar.
Did you have an interaction with these men at the bar?
I did not even talk to them, but I just listened to them.
Me too.
I mean, holy shit.
There's part of me that wants to, I just,
I like listening to guys try to be funny.
Because I like to, I like listening to guys try to be funny because I I like
to I enjoyed listening to what people think is funny what they laugh at all
that stuff I mean bro the amount of times one of these guys kept making gay
jokes yeah it was unbelievable the bartender was like talking about how he's
like what he said he's from somewhere,
it was somewhere like Eastern Europe or something,
and he's like, oh yeah, I love the food
and my country, you know, blah, blah, blah,
and he's like, oh yeah, a lot of meats, huh?
A lot of meats in your mouth.
Right?
He gots a lot of meats in his mouth.
And it was like, holy shit.
I mean, we're talking about a guy who's like 56 years old.
It's like his mind is an adolescent.
I heard him making some good points later on in the evening.
I heard, the only thing I heard, because I had my headphones on,
I took them off at the end of my whopper.
And I heard him saying, I'm guessing this is the same guy,
because it was one guy doing a lot of the talking.
He said, JFK would have been a Republican now.
Yeah, they're very Republican.
They're very Republican.
I was listening to them.
And they made so many jokes that were like, yo
What the fuck? I mean
What do they say they said they said something about they were talking about eyeglasses at some point
It was what I forget what the store is but they were talking about it's like some uh, the eye store in Walmart
Yeah, and they were like, yeah, that's for black people and then they started laughing. They're like, I'm just kidding
It's like you're not kidding. I'd like you that you know, that was a wild shit. You just said I mean
I guess like you were not joking there. I found I've
I found this on the difference between white people and black people I found out that
Cash black people use cash app. That's right and why people use Venmo. I don't know what that and old people use PayPal. I
Think someone had a bit about it,
but there was the, we had a black opener.
Sweet Addison.
Addison.
In Appleton.
And I tried to pay him on, man, have I paid him yet?
I don't think I've paid him.
We'll find a way to pay you, Addison.
Damn!
Just him watching this going, pay me motherfucker, I said, please get a Venmo.
I said, it will help you move up in comedy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
If you have a Venmo.
It's a lot of white bookers with Venmos.
I didn't know this,
that there was a white one and a black one.
Well, I mean, it's not so much,
it's mostly like, I think Cash App is more
so associated with,
and this is just coming from me,
totally not experienced in this industry or whatsoever,
drug dealers.
Oh.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
What a beautiful point on which to end the podcast.
James Donald's, we can't catamaran plan.
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CJ Landry.
What are you?
I'm sorry, what did you want me to say?
No, that's it.
Oh, that's it.
No, I just, I mean, it's already been a very long podcast.
I thought we talked for 10 minutes.
We talked for way longer.
We're wrapping it up.
This was great.
Check me out, huh?
What the fuck?
Check me out, check my Instagram out at the CJ Landry.
Again, I don't know what's wrong with the guy
that has CJ Landry on Instagram. I don't know what's wrong with the guy that has CJ
Landry on Instagram. I've DM'd him multiple times. He just won't respond. Thank you for
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I hope these fellas from the bar are at the club tonight as you launch into a eight minute
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