The Jamie Kern Lima Show - Chelsea Handler Reveals All! Pt 3 How to Live More, Laugh More, Love More and Finally Feel Free!

Episode Date: March 4, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 If you're ready to truly live more, laugh more, and love more, I am so excited you're here for this incredible part three episode with Chelsea Handler, who opens up in ways you've never seen her open up before and shares things she's never shared before. If you're ready to build the courage to be more bold, confident, and free. Get what you want in life and step into your purpose. Today, we dive into the power of being your authentic self, finding your freedom by releasing your past and not giving a damn what other people think and how to truly be who you are
Starting point is 00:00:41 and know that the people who are for you will find you and will like you. Get ready to laugh, cry, and live, laugh, and love more in your life today. I am so excited for this amazing conversation with you, me, and Chelsea. One of the things you talk about was about a story about your ex, Ted, and having threesomes. And so I'm curious, have you had a lot of threesomes in your life? And also what about foursomes or fivesomes? I've had a few threesomes. And yeah, I find it very sexy.
Starting point is 00:01:28 I mean, I'm definitely open to doing it again. I like adventure, you know? Does it matter if the proportion of men and women in it? People always think that I'm going to become a lesbian at some point. They're always like, well, you come on over, Chelsea. I have someone that I'm seeing now that I'm very attracted to and that I like having sex with.
Starting point is 00:01:46 And so that's a really good, nice, like nice little thing I have going. Is it a serious relationship? I don't think any relationships that I've been in are serious. I don't think of myself as a relationship person. I think of myself as a purpose person. Like, my purpose is here to be here,
Starting point is 00:02:13 to have conversations like the one we're having right now, to infuse people with optimism, to be there for women. That is my purpose in this life. Any man that's in my life is not the main character. I wasn't embracing myself in the way that I am now. I was unsure of myself. I was insecure about many of the things. I wasn't sure if I even was supposed
Starting point is 00:02:38 to be a public person anymore. Will I be okay without this man? And the answer was a resounding yes. You will. You might even be better. I've only had threesomes with this one woman. She was a masseuse with my ex boyfriend and we had threesomes with her several times.
Starting point is 00:02:59 Then I hooked up with her a couple times on my own. And then with my next boyfriend, we also had a threesome with her. But then I lost her number, and I don't know where she went, but I would love for her to get back in touch with me. Maybe she'll hear that. My number's still the same, so text me. Okay, same masseuse, different relationship. Yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:03:21 Wow. Yeah, so. Was she also a great masseuse too? Yeah, yes. Wow. Yeah, so. Was she also a great masseuse too? Yeah, yeah. 91% of girls and women literally will opt out of meaningful activities when they don't like how they look or their body. And it's such a thing. And I think about, even in my own life,
Starting point is 00:03:37 for decades, the amount of experiences I missed out on, because I was like self-conscious. Yes, I know what you mean. I think about, have you ever dealt with body image? Oh, I've done the same thing in my 20s. I would weigh myself 15 times a day. I would stop, if I weighed a certain amount I wouldn't go out that night. I would exercise, I would run for two hours on the beach and then come back and weigh myself to see how much water weight I lost. So, such a waste. I've wasted so many hours about my body image, so many. And I hate that every woman in this world deals with that.
Starting point is 00:04:12 I don't know how you get out of that. I think obviously- Are you out of it now? You were at a dinner party with Woody Allen and what you refer to as his daughter bride. Can you share what you asked? Yeah, I... When he got his Blackberry Cobbler at the very end of dinner during our dessert,
Starting point is 00:04:35 he took a bite of it, put it into his mouth, and I leaned in as he was chewing on it to him and Sunyi and said, so how did you two meet? And what did they say back? So many people, especially adults, feel like they don't know how to have fun anymore and they think maybe they're funny, but they're not sure if they're funny.
Starting point is 00:04:57 And so I'm curious from one of the funniest people on the planet, how, this is for everyone listening, Chelsea, how can we all tap into our funny and be more funny and have more fun? I think the first step into having more fun is to be joyful is so imperative for mental health. Like to just, you don't have to be funny, but you have to have fun.
Starting point is 00:05:30 I don't take myself seriously anymore. I used to, I used to get so mad. And I think that's the first step of being joyful. How all of us right now, every person listening, every person watching can just sort of like, ah, I'm not gonna take myself so seriously because when I hear those words, it sounds like freedom. Because once you settle into who you really are,
Starting point is 00:05:53 and we all have that, we all have, like, the essence of who we are, the truest, best version of ourselves. Yeah. Once we allow that person to come through, there is no more room for trying to be, trying to make an impression, trying to get someone to like you,
Starting point is 00:06:11 trying, trying, trying. That is futile. The only way you really get people to like you is by being who you are, because people are going to like you. People are going to dislike you, and people are going to like you. People are going to dislike you and people are going to like you. Both of those things can be true
Starting point is 00:06:29 and both of those things will happen. And that's great. Go where the light is. Go to the people that like you, stay there, surround yourself with those people, and then you will just keep adding to that crew. Who you are is good enough. It really is.
Starting point is 00:06:44 For everybody, just, who you are is good enough. It really is. For everybody, just be who you are, and you're going to be rewarded for that. And then you take out all that chatter. Me skiing down a mountain with a joint in one hand, a margarita in the other, sometimes I have my dogs on me, sometimes I don't. In a bikini is exactly who I wanted to be when I grew up. The impact you have on so many people in your family,
Starting point is 00:07:07 outside of your family, people that have worked for you, people that are your friends, it's really inspiring. Oh, my gosh. You... No wonder you're so successful. You're such an incredible interviewer. Oh.
Starting point is 00:07:19 You really are. Great interview. So nice. It made me think about my interviews on my podcast. I'm like, I really need to get more prepared. You know, I've never done an edible. So if I ever do an edible in my life, I'm calling you. I'm calling you.
Starting point is 00:07:37 Jamie Kern Lima is her name. Everybody needs Jamie Kern Lima in their life. Jamie Kern Lima. Jamie, you're so inspiring. Jamie Kern Lima. I've had a few threesome's and yeah, I find it very sexy. I find that very sexy. As long as you're in a trusting dynamic with your partner,
Starting point is 00:08:07 bringing a third person in, I think can be a lot of fun. But you have to be able to trust each other and do that. And yeah, I think about that. I mean, I'm definitely open to doing it again. So it was always a good, it's kind of like drugs for me. Like I like adventure, you know? So I'm always a good... It's kind of like drugs for me. Like, I like adventure, you know? So I'm always open to more adventure. Has it... Does it matter if the proportion of men and women in it?
Starting point is 00:08:32 It has to be a woman. I don't want to have sex with two men at the same time. I'm not interested in that. That's not been a fantasy of mine. But I do like seeing a man, you know, like a man that I'm with being sexual with another woman when it's in front of me. Like I find that very sexy. Yeah. What about two women?
Starting point is 00:08:50 So three women. Three women together? Yeah, I would be into that. Women are always safe. You know, like I find women to be more safe than men, obviously. So like, yeah, I would, I mean, I don't think I'm, you know, like I would be with a woman in a relationship.
Starting point is 00:09:06 I'm not there, but I would be sexual with a woman. Do you think you ever would be with a woman in a relationship? I don't know. I mean, people always think that I'm going to become a lesbian at some point. They're always like, well, you come on over, Chelsea. We know you're coming.
Starting point is 00:09:20 Come over to the other side, like all my lesbian friends. But it's never happened thus far. So I don't know, I wouldn't rule anything out, but I am very attracted to men, you know. I mean, it gets harder and harder, but... But, you know, I have someone that I'm seeing now that I'm very attracted to and that I like having sex with, and so that's a really good, nice, like, nice little thing I have going.
Starting point is 00:09:45 Is it serious relationship? I don't think any relationships that I've been in are serious. I don't think of myself as a relationship person. I think of myself as a purpose person. Like my purpose is here to be here, to have conversations like the one we're having right now, to infuse people with optimism, to be there for women.
Starting point is 00:10:14 That is my purpose in this life, whether there are more lives or not, I really don't have a strong opinion on that either. All I know is I know what I'm supposed to be doing and any man that's in my life is not the main character. That's a side relationship. And I love them. And I want to respect everybody. But that's not my main MO in life. That is, I'm not that kind of person. How long have you guys been in a relationship, your current one? Probably nine months. When you ended your relationship with Joe Coy,
Starting point is 00:10:55 so many people cared so much about it because I think for you, you had shared about how you were being loved, being treated, and how it was very different for you in that particular relationship and how it sort of changed for you what you maybe felt would be possible in a loving relationship in different ways. And I think in your last Netflix special, and I have another one coming out, everyone's got it. Everyone's got it next month. Next month. Yes.
Starting point is 00:11:36 You know, it ended with a little note on the screen saying, you know, I believe love is possible. You talked about that, kind of giving everyone hope as well, like you do. There's people that, you know, like I mentioned living vicariously through you in the book in so many different ways. But also there's people then that wanna, you know,
Starting point is 00:11:58 borrow that hope of, oh wow, okay, I can find someone who loves me well and all of that. And I know when you ended it with Joe Coy, you said that you weren't gonna lose yourself, you know, or sacrifice yourself to be in a relationship. And now in the one year end, you feel like you have love at that level, that kind of, I guess, level that you kind of shared
Starting point is 00:12:24 was newer for you. Yes. And I think it's about the choices we make, you know, my relationship with him. I was so... I started dating Joe when I was at a point in my life where I was in a confusing time. I wasn't embracing myself in the way that I am now. I was unsure of myself. I was insecure about many of the things. I wasn't sure if I even was supposed to be a public person anymore, if anyone cared about whether or not I contributed anything more creatively.
Starting point is 00:12:55 And he came into my life, and it's very clear to me now why, he came in to pick me up and boost me up and remind me of who I am up and remind me of who I am and remind me of what my talents are and what my purpose is and what I'm good at. Instead of forgetting, you know, I was a little bit lost. And so he kind of picked me up
Starting point is 00:13:19 and reminded me of all of the things I had forgotten about myself. And in doing so, loved me, adored me, was just so sweet and everything. And when we had to break up, I had to think about like, am I still allowed to be in this more elevated position where I was as opposed to the position he found me in, right, when we got together? Am I still allowed to be here where he brought me without him as my partner?
Starting point is 00:13:59 And the answer was yes. I'm here by way of you, not because of you. You didn't create me. You picked me up when I was down. And I will always be grateful for that. And it's a reminder to women everywhere, you know, that relationship, I didn't wanna break up with him.
Starting point is 00:14:20 I didn't want to. I felt like I had no choice. I had to protect myself in a way that he was asking things of me that I wasn't, that we're compromising. And I remember like, am I going to be okay without him? We were so public and it was so much attention and it was so positive. Will I be okay without this man?
Starting point is 00:14:43 And the answer was a resounding yes, you will. positive, will I be okay without this man? And the answer was a resounding yes, you will. You might even be better. So what was he asking that was compromising? Just what his ideas of a relationship were and the expectations he had of me. And a lot of them were really old fashioned and outdated. And I was never going to sublimate myself in a way
Starting point is 00:15:10 where I was being asked to do things that I wasn't comfortable with. I'm a very strong, independent woman. I like to be alone as we've mentioned. And he wanted more than I had to you know, than I had to give. I didn't have the bandwidth. Conversely, to the relationship I'm in now, I have the freedom to be myself. I have the freedom to go about my life. And that's why we're still together. I love what you said too about like that moment of I didn't want to break up and those thoughts of will I be, you know, worse off if I do and all these kind of things.
Starting point is 00:15:52 Because I think so many people have those thoughts all the time. It's why they stay in relationships where they know some things off or they stay, you know, like I mentioned earlier, in friendships where they're like, I just don't feel like this person. friendships where they're like, I just don't feel like this person. You know what I mean? Is, is, um, like energy is contagious. And sometimes you are around someone and you're just like, I just feel my vibration low or I feel like I feel, you know, and, and, and so I think sharing what you shared is really powerful because for a lot of people, it's also hard to leave when you know someone loves you
Starting point is 00:16:25 and when you feel wanted and when you feel all those things and like cherished and celebrated in different ways. But when it's that person's version of that and it like comes at the price of you living your own truth or having to change that, that's so brave. That's so brave to do that. So your current relationship, do you have threesomes yet? No, we have not had a threesome.
Starting point is 00:16:48 Not yet. Although I do mention it once in a while. I'll be honest. Do you? Yes, I'm like, you know what we should do? Yeah. When you said to you that you've done, it's your book, by the way, oh my gosh.
Starting point is 00:16:58 I'm only giving away like 0.001% of the stuff in it that is so good, so funny, so laugh out loud, so also live vicariously through an experience. Like I feel like somehow in my life now I need to be in a kayak in Mallorca and all the things. Like you just, you just, and I won't even say all the reasons why. You have to read the book. I'll have what she's having. I've only had a threesome with, oh no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:17:29 There was some couple when I was in my early 20s. I had a threesome with a couple. That wasn't very successful though. That was kind of awkward. I've only had threesomes with this one woman. She was a masseuse with my ex boyfriend. And we had threesomes with her several times. Then I hooked up with her a couple of times on my own.
Starting point is 00:17:44 And then with my next boyfriend, we also had a threesome with her. But then I I hooked up with her a couple of times on my own. And then with my next boyfriend, we also had a threesome with her. But then I lost her number and I don't know where she went, but I would love for her to get back in touch with me. Maybe she'll hear that. My number's still the same, so text me. Okay, same masseuse, different relationships. Yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:18:04 Wow. Yeah, so. Was she also a great masseuse, different relationships. Yes, yes. Wow. Yeah, so. Was she also a great masseuse too? Yes. Not just masseuse, the benefits, great. Wow. Yes. All right.
Starting point is 00:18:13 Are you, okay, so I have to ask you. So you were at a dinner party with Woody Allen and what you refer to as his daughter bride. And the whole dinner party goes on and on and on all the courses. And at the very end, and you were cordial, all the conversation, normal conversation, at the very end, I think it was the dessert round. Can you share what you asked? Yeah, I was sitting next to Katie Couric
Starting point is 00:18:47 and I was apoplectic that I was at a dinner with Woody Allen. Like I didn't know he was gonna be there. I didn't know anyone who was gonna be there except for Katie. And I went with Katie Couric. And so when I saw him walk through the door, I was like, this isn't gonna go well. Like I am a confrontational person,
Starting point is 00:19:02 especially at that time. This was way before therapy. And I was like, I'm gonna call him out. Like there's just no way. And she's like, is there any way you can wait? I'm like, for what? And she's like, just wait like to end until the end of the dinner, maybe just and I was like, Oh, I've never tried that. I guess I could try. Sure. Why not? Like it was a fun challenge. So I did. And then I waited and waited because I wasn't gonna let him not hear from me. Like, and he was there with his, with Sunyi. They were sitting right across from me. And when he got his Blackberry Cobbler
Starting point is 00:19:35 at the very end of dinner during our dessert, he took a bite of it, put it into his mouth. And I leaned in as he was chewing on it to him and Sunyi and said, so how did you two meet? And Katie Kerrig, I think she once told a story that I forgot, I'm like forgot? I was like, that's exactly what I meant. Like I forgot how they met, like I had, you know, misspoke.
Starting point is 00:19:56 I'm like, no, no, no, that was very intentional. Like I said that on purpose. Yeah, that's kind of like the most poignant thing to say. And what did they say back? Well, she, I don't know, she, Suni Previn, I don't know what her story was. I didn't really, it wasn't really, I was more owned in on him and he choked and laughed and almost spit his Blackberry Cobbler out. There was something along those lines.
Starting point is 00:20:27 But that was the last thing I said. And then I was like, okay, time to go. Did he say anything at all? Do you think he knew that you knew and were being really... Yes, of course. And did he say anything back or he just kind of choked? No, I wasn't interested in his response anyway. I had to make sure that I left that party
Starting point is 00:20:46 and everyone knew where I stood. Do you know what I mean? Like I wasn't gonna be like, oh no, I just had dinner with Woody Allen and was one of these sycophants and you know, no, no, no, no. How did Katie react when you? She was like, it's time to go.
Starting point is 00:21:00 She was just like, oh God, here goes, Chelsea's about to do one of her, I was gonna sound off, but I wasn't. It was a whole dinner part. Like, did everyone hear it at the table? I don't remember if everyone heard it. I was so laser focused on when the right time to say that sentence was. Yeah. Like, I couldn't not wait.
Starting point is 00:21:17 I was like, OK, hold on. Here we go. We're in the, we're at the bottom of the ninth. This is my move. I was like, I'm going get them. Before I leave, I'm gonna say something. I had to say something as a woman. So, okay. So many, you look at all the studies out there that say that when you're exposed to humor and laughter and positivity, it has such profound effects on mental health,
Starting point is 00:21:43 physical health, all of it. Yet so many people, especially adults, feel like they don't know how to have fun anymore. And they think maybe they're funny, but they're not sure if they're funny. And so I'm curious from one of the funniest people on the planet, how, this is for everyone listening, Chelsea, how can we all tap into our funny and be more funny and have more fun? There's so much more coming up in this episode. You are not going to want to miss it. But first I wanted to share this with you.
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Starting point is 00:25:21 lot of like shame. Yeah. and there's a lot of like shame. And you can choose to take that in or you can choose to like literally physically think about it running like water off of a duck's back. Like I sometimes physically, if I hear something about myself that's icky or I read something about myself that I don't like,
Starting point is 00:25:42 I always am just like, I physically, I imagine water physically running down my back and falling off me. Like it's not my problem, that's okay. And to be joyful is so imperative for mental health. Like to just, you don't have to be funny, but you have to have fun. You know, you don't have to be the person who makes the joke or is clever or oh, but
Starting point is 00:26:14 you have to be able to be able to a person who appreciates that and is infected by it, you know, and like, oh, I like that. I like the way that makes me feel. I want to make people feel that way. And to just and to know that like you're a human being that makes mistakes. Self-effacement is is the name of my game. I always start with myself before I talk about others. I'm the first one to talk about how mindless I am. I mean, I can I can barely.
Starting point is 00:26:41 There's not many things I can do around technology or for myself. I've kind of built this life where a lot of things are done for me, but I never take that seriously. Like I used to, like if I can't, I don't get upset when I can't work something or I can't do something. I'm like, oh, well, I think this is exactly
Starting point is 00:27:00 how you wanted your life to be. You wanted everyone to do things for you and now here you are and you can't even turn a TV on. I don't take myself seriously anymore. I used to, I used to get so mad. And I think that's the first step of being joyful is to understand like you're not perfect. You can constantly get better.
Starting point is 00:27:20 And joyfulness is kind of the one thing that like, no one can really take from you. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Like they can't take that, they can't take your power away because you decide how you're going to feel or the meaning you're going to attach to everything. Yeah. Right? Like you can't figure out technology, well, what's the meaning you're going to attach to that? Or someone says something bad or some hater online or this or that, which every one of us now, the person that used to be a teacher or a doctor and they never had to deal with
Starting point is 00:27:53 public opinions, now everyone is online saying everything about anybody and everything. So now they're having to kind of deal with that too. I think everyone feels like now they have critics or people at this or that. And so the analogy you gave, water off a duck's back. Cause water just flows off the feathers, right? It doesn't stick to them. That's so beautiful. So you're able to just do that
Starting point is 00:28:16 and be like, you're not taking my joy. Like, you know, people who get road rage, you see people in their cars, like, it's so embarrassing. Like, are you seriously getting mad at somebody else for their driving? You see people in their cars, like, it's so embarrassing. Are you seriously getting mad at somebody else for their driving? Why are you wasting your joy on that? You just gave away joy.
Starting point is 00:28:35 Like, you're choosing anger. You're choosing to be angry over something that you have no control over. I remember someone once sent a picture to me of me, I was furiously texting like an agent or a manager at some point. And you know, like angry texting where you're like, yeah, and my assistant at the time sent me the picture and I just went, oh, like, what are you doing?
Starting point is 00:29:02 What are you doing sending emails like that and texts like that with that kind of energy? Transmitting anger and what are you doing? There's a million ways to say everything. Find the nicest way, the gentlest way. You can still be firm and stand up for yourself with grace. Yeah. You know what I mean? It doesn't have to be, well, I'm a powerful,
Starting point is 00:29:21 you didn't do this and you didn't do that. Like all of that stuff is a choice. So, you know, like when I see people with like road rage, or if I see someone, you know, getting mad at a server or a flight attendant, I'm like, you're, you've lost the plot. Like if you're really upset, like if your flight gets delayed and it's nine hours and you're stuck at the airport, you can choose to have a great time at that airport. You can choose that.
Starting point is 00:29:50 Or you can be a baby and cry about it for five or six hours, you know what I mean? And of course there are extenuating circumstances if you're trying to get home to a loved one who's sick or something like that, of course, I understand that. But really in the grand scheme of things, take whatever things that don't go your way and turn them into something that does.
Starting point is 00:30:09 And something you said just now too about not taking yourself so seriously, I think that's a big thing. So many of us are like, oh, what is this person, what is that person going to think? Or how did that make me look? Or this or that? How did you, how did you, you ski naked. Like you ski down the hill and like for your birthday and your, like all the things. How have you always like not taken yourself so seriously or has this been like a progression? And like, what are some tips on how all of us right now,
Starting point is 00:30:44 every person listening, every person watching can just sort of like, I'm not going to take myself so seriously because when I hear those words it sounds like freedom. Because once you settle into who you really are and we all have that, we all have like the essence of who we are, the truest, best version of ourselves. Once we allow that person to come through, there is no more room for trying to be, trying to make an impression, trying to get someone to like you,
Starting point is 00:31:17 trying, trying, trying. That is futile. The only way you really get people to like you is by being who you are, because people get people to like you is by being who you are. Because people are going to like you. People are going to dislike you and people are going to like you. Both of those things can be true. And both of those things will happen.
Starting point is 00:31:37 And that's great. Go where the light is. Go to the people that like you. Stay there. Surround yourself with those people. And then you will just keep adding to that crew, like, of love in your life. You don't focus on the haters, you don't focus on the negativity, and you don't focus on being, thinking about, what did I, did I say the wrong thing, did I, did I, no.
Starting point is 00:31:58 All of that energy, it doesn't get you anything. It just gets you circular thoughts and negative thoughts about yourself. And you just have to remember who you are is good enough. It really is for everybody. Just be who you are and you're gonna be rewarded for that. And then you take out all that chatter. Yeah. You know?
Starting point is 00:32:20 When you, speaking of skiing, when you have sort of a tradition, is it on your birthday, you'll ski in a bikini down the Whistler typically? Whistler, I usually, sometimes I've been topless. Usually, the last couple of years, because I have nieces and nephews now who's appointedly said, can you please not be topless and I was like, you know what, you bring up a good point. It is slightly vulgar, but it's not vulgar. It's freeing, it's freeing. I understand where they're coming from.
Starting point is 00:32:50 But so anyway, so I think the last few years I have worn a top. And then I think that that's something like, to me is the essence of who I am. Me skiing down a mountain with a joint in one hand, a margarita in the other. Sometimes I have my dogs on me, sometimes I don't. In a bikini is exactly who I wanted to be when I grew up.
Starting point is 00:33:17 Yeah. Yeah. Do you, have you ever, when it comes to body, you know, you mentioned the comment your aunt made, but also, you know, you look at the data, it's like 91% of girls and women literally will opt out of meaningful activities when they don't like how they look or their body. And it's such a thing.
Starting point is 00:33:34 And I think about, even in my own life, for decades, the amount of experience that I missed out on, because I was like self-conscious, I think about, have you ever dealt with body image? Oh, yes, of course. I'm a woman. I mean, I don't know how to, of course. I've done the same thing in my 20s. I would weigh myself 15 times a day. I would stop, if I weighed a certain amount, I wouldn't go out that night. I would exercise. I would run for two hours on the beach and then come back and weigh myself to see how much water weight I lost.
Starting point is 00:34:05 So, such a waste. I've wasted so many hours about my body image, so many. And I hate that every woman in this world deals with that. I hate that our society hasn't embraced, even though we're beginning the conversations, it's gonna take another thousand years for girls to understand, like, everyone is different, you all have different parts.
Starting point is 00:34:29 So, yes, I am a victim of the very same thing. And it is, I don't know what the answer to that is. I don't know how you get out of that. I think, obviously... Are you out of it now? Yeah, to a degree, but I still care. I still care about what I look like in a bathing suit. I'm much more freer about the fact that I do have cellulite
Starting point is 00:34:48 and it's not shameful. Like, but I also take really good care of myself because I want to look, you know, my strongest and my healthiest. I want to be powerful. Like, I lift weights because I want to be strong and I want to be able to ski like a badass, you know? Like, I train all the time because I want to be strong and I want to be able to ski like a badass, you know? Like I train all the time because I want to be strong for skiing and I also want to look
Starting point is 00:35:09 good. And I'm not somebody that you can excise from that argument and say that I don't feel that way. I do. I do care about the way I look and I wish we had an answer, but I don't have the answer for that. I don't know. You know, so many people called this younger generation, like in their 20s or 30s, the snowflake generation. They say like, they're offended by everything or they don't want to work hard or they
Starting point is 00:35:36 you touch them and they melt kind of a thing. Do you think that's true? And do you think that we're, do you think people get offended too easy right now that we're in that? I'm not gonna say people get offended too easily because it's not really anyone's decision what offends another person. Yeah. I think it's great information to understand
Starting point is 00:36:01 why people are offended. I think that's great information as a comedian who has offended many people in my career and on my shows. To learn parameters and boundaries and sensitivities that people have is a very useful tool in making me a sharper comedian, not a less sharp comedian. Nobody else, nobody's taking away funny.
Starting point is 00:36:26 You have to be more clever about your jokes. If you don't want to offend people, I don't want to offend people. I want to, I mean, I don't care about offending most Republicans, but the people that I think are inherent, like if you tell me that this is hurtful to me, then I'm not doing that. You know what I mean? I find that to be very useful information. I don't find that to be a limit to my comedy. It's actually enhanced my comedy because I've had to rise up. You know, the dimensions of you that you have shared in your book and also that you've shared today are so inspiring and just so multi-dimensional and so powerful.
Starting point is 00:37:14 I want to read something. You say, I am here for women. That is my purpose. I'm here to lift, to inspire, and to listen. There is not a woman in need that I wouldn't try to help pull out of whatever hole she's in to help lift her up. I'm here for every member of the LGBTQ community and for any person who doesn't feel seen. I am here for the underdogs, and I'm here to demonstrate compassion, empathy, and love. I feel so deeply all those things in you. And it's really, really cool to have a conversation like this with you. I read something you mentioned about, you know, I haven't gone to college, but I've sent 50 others to college. What do you mean by that?
Starting point is 00:38:01 College funds, creating college funds for lots of people, strangers, people I do know, people who've worked for me, my family members, people I'll never meet, people who will never know I sent them to college. That feels really good. There's so much you do that's such a gift to highlight also in this conversation, also in your book, reading the story about oopsie, whoopsie, and poopsie. Like the impact you have on so many people in your family, outside of your family, people that have worked for you, people that are your friends. It's really inspiring.
Starting point is 00:38:38 And I think that I just want to honor that and celebrate that. I literally could not put your book down, read it cover to cover, the stories that just like living vicariously, you know, I've never done an edible. So if I ever do an edible in my life, I'm calling you. If I ever do one. But a few rapid fire questions. What's your favorite book of all time? Oh, that's a good question. I know you're a reader. I know. Whole life. Yeah. What's your favorite book of all time? Oh, that's a good question.
Starting point is 00:39:05 I know you're a reader. I know. Your whole life, yeah. I'm going to say two. House of Mirth by Edith Wharton. I think that is just the best kind of sociological study or demonstration of human beings in modern society and timeless. And then the book I mentioned earlier, Letting Go, because that transformed my life.
Starting point is 00:39:25 And I think, and I've heard back from so many people who I've recommended the book to, how it's transformed them and their lives. And that, yeah, so those two. Favorite joke of all time. My favorite joke, I guess the Woody Allen, it wasn't a joke, but that's my favorite story. Favorite lover of all time.
Starting point is 00:39:43 Lover? Yeah. Oh my goodness, who's my favorite lover? I'll of all time. Lover? Yeah. Oh my goodness. Who's my favorite lover? I'll have to say the current one. Ah. Yeah, whoever I'm with is gonna be my favorite. It's so funny.
Starting point is 00:39:53 My guess is gonna be you're gonna say yourself. Oh, oh, yeah. Well, I guess that would be a good answer too. By the way, anyone who needs some good lover experiences, like stories, wanna live vicariously through, maybe you've been in a relationship forever, you need to mix it up a little bit. You've got to read, I'll have what she's having,
Starting point is 00:40:10 just for that alone. Okay, favorite drug of all time? Pot is my favorite drug. Favorite quote or prayer. It doesn't matter how many people say no, all you need is one person to say yes. Mm, yeah. And your greatest life lesson learned so far. people say no, all you need is one person to say yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:28 And your greatest life lesson learned so far. To have gratitude. Yeah. Yeah. I feel that so congruently. I am so grateful for this conversation. I'm grateful for the person you are, for what you put out in the world, like for all that you do to help so many people. And a lot of people see the person you are, for what you put out in the world, like for all that you do to help so many people.
Starting point is 00:40:46 And a lot of people see the stuff you do, and a lot of people have no idea how much that you do. Everyone listening right now, go out and buy. I'll have what she's having, which will be Chelsea Handler's seventh New York Times bestseller in a row. And when that happens, y'all, she has written six New York Times bestsellers before this one.
Starting point is 00:41:08 When things like that happen, it is never an accident. It's because they're really, really good, and people get a lot of value out of the book. And that is what happened to me reading this book. So definitely go buy her book. You can also see her at her residency in Las Vegas at the Cosmopolitan. You can get tickets right now at ChelseaHandler.com.
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