The Jamie Kern Lima Show - “Saying These 2 Words Can Fix Your Anxiety & Help You Take Control of Your Emotions & Your Life! LET THEM!”
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These two words will change your life.
Let them.
You are not gonna wanna miss this brand new episode
of the Jamie Kern Lima Show with Mel Robbins.
Already, this is like new, cutting edge,
and already Mel Robbins,
the millions of people freaking out over this,
spreading it everywhere.
So, let them.
If your friends wanna judge what you post on social media, let them. If your parents don't want to come visit for Thanksgiving, let them.
If your neighbors get together and they don't include your family, let them. If the city that
you live in decides to do
a big construction project and it creates
a tremendous amount of traffic for you
at the dumbest month of the year, let them.
You have no clue how much time and energy you are wasting.
Trying to control other people or things
that you have no control over.
You will gain more control in your life
the less you try to control other people.
I started to develop this theory.
Wow.
The more that I just let them,
I let adults be adults.
I let other people live their lives.
The more control I feel. Because when you're so busy controlling other people, you actually. The more control I feel.
Because when you're so busy controlling other people,
you actually don't see who they are.
Mel Robbins is the host of one of the top ranked podcasts in the world.
Her books on finding motivation and success have sold millions of copies.
One of the most trusted experts in the world on confidence.
She's written three best-selling books.
New York Times best-selling author and host of the Mel Robbins podcast.
Life coach and motivational speaker.
A dear friend who we are so proud of.
All you have built and done Mel.
Welcome to the Jamie Carey and Leigh Mesh.
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You're crying already.
Because um...
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Jamie Kern Lima is her name.
Everybody needs Jamie Kern Lima in their life.
Jamie Kern Lima.
Jamie, you're so inspiring.
Jamie Kern Lima.
Mel Robbins says you can change your life and she will show you how.
Mel has one of the most popular podcasts in the world called the Mel Robbins Podcast.
She's a New York Times bestselling author.
She has seven number one audiobooks on Audible, billions of views of her videos online,
and is one of the most respected experts
in the world of mindset, motivation, and behavior change
thanks to her science-backed tools and relatable advice
that has impacted the lives of millions of people
who follow her across 194 countries.
She lives in Vermont with her husband of 26 years, Chris, and their three kids.
She's also my dear friend, a really great roommate on trips, one of my favorite people
to have at slumber parties, and the best wedding singer I've ever had the privilege of hearing
in person.
Mel Robbins, welcome to the Jamie Curren Lima show.
This is like new, cutting edge, and already Mel Robbins,
the millions of people freaking out over this,
spreading it everywhere.
So, and I wanna talk about, you know,
anxiety and tips to heal it for everyone listening and watching
who maybe deals with anxiety or fear or control issues.
Two words, two words and a theory behind them is been life changing for a lot of people.
Will you share about the let them theory?
Yes.
So the let them theory is something that I
just came up with in the last couple months.
And it is, I think, the most powerful thing
I've ever stumbled upon.
And I've learned some pretty incredible things
in my lifetime from other people,
from the power of something like the five second rule
and prioritizing action,
but the let them theory is at an entirely different level.
And the let them theory on the surface is extremely simple. And
here's how it works. Let them. If your friends want to judge what you post on
social media, let them. If your parents don't want to come visit for
Thanksgiving, let them. If your neighbors get together
and they don't include your family, let them.
If the city that you live in decides to do
a big construction project
and it creates a tremendous amount of traffic for you
at the dumbest month of the year, let them.
dumbest month of the year, let them.
You have no clue how much time and energy you are wasting
trying to control other people or things that you have no control over.
And I was so guilty of this.
And it is so easy to read something on Instagram,
I don't care what other people think,
and then regurgitate it like it's some sort of philosophy
that you have when really you actually do care a lot.
LetThem is a tool that encapsulates the truth
about relationships and the truth about control.
relationships and the truth about control.
You will gain more control in your life the less you try to control other people.
And this is a learned behavior.
This is something you learned because your parents,
like parents, your job is to keep your kids safe.
Your job is to teach your kids how to make decisions.
Your job is to set boundaries for your children
so that they can grow up and become independent human beings.
But your frame of reference when you are a kid
is all about the adults around you.
And because as a kid, you don't know why mommy's mad,
so you think you're the reason why mommy's mad.
So you then make it your job to make sure mommy's not mad.
Or you sit there and say something must be wrong with me
when mommy's mad.
And so that's why you get so obsessed
with trying to control the states of emotion
and what other people are doing or not doing.
Because you think what everybody else is doing
has something to do with you or mean something about you
and it means nothing about you.
And the reason why,
and the story for how I discovered it,
I would love to tell it because I think it'll kind of
put you at the scene at just how dumb we are.
And how prevalent this is in your life. And so it is, I'm setting the scene for where I discovered
this. So it was our son's junior prom in high school and having already gone through four high
school proms with our two daughters, I thought this is going to be cakewalk, man. There are no
spray tans, there's no blowouts, there's no like 55 dresses. It's like, oh my God, this is gonna be cakewalk, man. There are no spray tans, there's no blowouts, there's no like 55 dresses.
It's like, oh my God, this is gonna be amazing.
It was the worst.
He was way worse because he didn't communicate anything,
Jamie.
First of all, he's not going.
Then he's going with a group of guys.
Then we live in the middle of Vermont,
where the hell are we gonna buy a tux?
Then all of a sudden he decides he wants
Stan Smith Adidas edition sneakers.
I gotta track them down, we gotta have them overnighted.
Now he's asking a date some chick he doesn't even know.
So then there's that whole thing.
This all happens by the way,
in the five days before the prom.
So we are leaving to go to that pre-prom party
that people tend to have where you show up
at somebody's house and everybody's taking photos. And we arrive and we walk in and I'm already on edge
because our son has been like,
imagine trying to wrestle a grizzly bear to the ground
and get him into a tuxedo and then get him into the car.
When I realized in hindsight, he's just nervous,
but now I'm annoyed and I'm stressed out.
And so we get to this thing.
He makes a beeline for all of his friends,
does not introduce us to his date.
Everybody's really awkward in terms of the kids,
but they all look fantastic.
About 20 minutes in, we're settling down.
I'm starting to feel a little less on edge
and out of nowhere. I'm talking nowhere.
This is like a freak mountain storm.
It starts to rain sideways.
There's not a single person
that has an umbrella or raincoat.
Now is there's a hail.
The umbrella on the deck goes tumbling off to the right
and all the parents are now circling, right, and murmuring, and
what's gonna happen? And I walk over to Oakley, and I tap him on the shoulder, and I'm like,
Oak, what are you guys doing for dinner? Because it's 4.30 in the afternoon. The prom starts
at seven. Clearly, they have a dinner plan, right? He kind of shrugs his shoulder and
is like, I don't know. I'm like, what? You don't have a reservation for dinner?
It's the prom, dude.
I don't know what we're doing.
Do you want me to call the inn?
Do you want me to do this?
He's like, mom.
And I start ramping up.
In my mind, like I'm going to fix the situation for him.
So he's talking to his friends.
I'm on my phone trying to find a reservation.
There isn't a reservation anywhere in our small town because obviously other people
had thought about this.
It doesn't seem like any of the other kids in this group have a reservation either.
And all of a sudden they start walking toward the door.
No coats, no raincoats.
Like it is raining sideways, Jamie. She is going to ruin her dress, her hair, her makeup,
his sneakers destroyed, the rented tux out that would like, I'm just like,
all the other parents, where are you guys going? I think we're going to go to the cilantro bowl.
And that's when all the parents are now like, we're all going to repeat this. Everyone's
controlling the situation. It's complete chaos. we've all been in this kind of moment.
Our daughter, Kendall, who we've just been talking about,
was home for the weekend.
She gently reaches over and she grabs my arm
and she shakes it and she says, mom, let them.
Like what, what do you mean let them?
I'm like on the phone, on hold trying to...
Let them what? Let them go to the saunter ball. But it's raining, but it's small, but it's like
a small... They're not even gonna... Let them go to a small place they can't fit in. But he's gonna
ruin his shoes. Let him ruin his shoes. But her dress... Let her ruin her dress. Mom, it's their
prom, not yours. Let them. And it was something about that moment and her repeating those words and
repeating those words and repeating those two words, let them, let them, let them, let them,
and her hand on my bicep that made me just de-escalate internally.
And as I started to de-escalate internally
and kind of just let them and let them do
and not need to control it,
my thinking came back online
and I thought, why do I care?
Why am I not making a reservation for myself for dinner?
Who cares?
Why am I doing this to myself?
And so I walk up to Oak and I tap him on the shoulder
and he turns around, he's like, whoa!
Like, here's 20 bucks, go have fun.
And this huge smile, like lit up his face
and right out the door into the sideways rain they went,
trashing his shoes in her dress.
It was adorable.
And over the course of the next couple weeks,
I couldn't believe how often I had the experience
for myself where I was getting hooked by what other people are doing.
Why is a celebrity promoting this thing? Why is this happening? Why can't we do it this way? Why
is the government doing this? Why is the traffic doing this? Why are my friends having lunch and they didn't invite me?
Why this?
Why that?
Like all of this time and energy getting cooked up
about my opinions about what other people are doing
or not doing, or my expectations
about how things should be done.
Oh, the schools should be.
You got a lot of lethams that you need to bring into the school. The teacher should be done. Oh, the schools should be. You got a lot of let-thems that you need to bring into the school.
The teacher should be...
Rrrr!
And so what happened is I started to develop this theory.
Wow.
The more that I just let them, I let adults be adults.
I let other people live their lives.
The more that I let them,
and I just drop this obsession with controlling other people live their lives. The more that I let them,
and I just drop this obsession
with controlling things around me
or having an opinion about it,
which is a way of controlling,
the more control I feel.
And so I put out a reel,
and just, it was like 60 seconds.
I was like, if friends are going out to lunch without you,
let them.
If you're throw a birthday party and a bunch of people come
and all the popular people leave early
to go do their own thing, let them.
Why?
Because when you let them,
you are allowing adults to be adults
and you are allowing people to reveal who they are.
And that's really important because when you're so busy controlling other people,
you actually don't see who they are. And when you can give up control and you can let adults be
adults, Jamie, and there's a bunch of rules that I can now teach you
about what we get wrong about relationships.
But when you let adults be adults,
because number one,
you cannot make another adult
do anything they don't wanna do, period.
And you think you can, and it's not true.
Adults only do what they feel like doing.
The second thing, there is nothing you can do
to make another adult change.
Why?
Rule number one, adults only do what adults feel like doing.
This is why you cannot make somebody get sober.
This is why you cannot want somebody's dreams for them
more than they want it for themselves.
This is why you can't get somebody to be nicer
or get somebody to work harder.
Why?
Because adults only do what adults feel like doing.
And you can't do anything to change someone.
Here's another thing you can't make adults do.
You cannot make another adult like you.
You cannot make another adult like you. You cannot make another adult love you.
And you are wasting too much time and energy
presuming that people are gonna love you
the same way that you love them.
Or presuming that there is some different way
that you can show up or do or text in a certain cadence
and twist yourself and not so that somebody
else likes you? Think about the time and energy that you're wasting there.
Especially when you really grasp the truth that adults only do what adults
feel like doing. And this is the real power of the let them theory. When you let somebody
else live their life, you have to look in the mirror and you have to confront
where you are in your life. And if your friends are not inviting you to lunch, it
is not their responsibility to include you. Your life, your friendships, your
happiness, your responsibility.
And if it bothers you that much,
instead of sending that passive aggressive text,
I saw you guys having lunch,
would have been nice to have been included,
or bitching about them to other people,
how about you look in the mirror and you say to yourself,
well, if I actually want friendships like that,
maybe I should plan the lunch.
Maybe these people aren't my friends after all.
And if I want friendships that feel good,
it's my job to create it.
And what part of myself do I have to confront
in order to take responsibility for creating what I want?
See, nobody else is responsible for the life that you want.
You have to create it. for the life that you want.
You have to create it.
And the more time you waste going, oh, but my friends, oh, but my boss, oh, but my this,
the less likely you're going to do it.
That's a let them theory.
Two big things.
The less you try to control other people, the more control you have in your own life.
Yes.
Huge.
Yes.
Huge.
And you can't change another person.
If you want them to change more than they want to change, it never works.
I mean, everybody listening knows somebody that has been in that category of struggling and struggling and struggling and
struggling and you try everything you possibly can.
And your life then becomes about rescuing that person.
There's so much more coming up in this episode.
You are not going to want to miss it.
But first, I wanted to share this with you.
In life, you don't soar to the level of your hopes and dreams, you stay stuck at the level
of your self-worth. When you build your self-worth, you change your entire life. And that's exactly why
I wrote my new book, Worthy, How to Believe You Are Enough and Transform Your Life for You. If you
have some self-doubt to destroy and a destiny to fulfill, worthy is for you.
In worthy, you'll learn proven tools and simple steps that bring life-changing results,
like how to get unstuck from the things holding you back, build unshakable self-love, unlearn
the lies that lead to self-doubt and embrace the truths that wake up worthiness.
Overcome limiting beliefs and imposter syndrome.
Achieve your hopes and dreams by believing you are worthy of them and so much more.
Are you ready to unleash your greatness and step into the person you were born to be.
Imagine a life with zero self-doubt and unshakable self-worth.
Get your copy of Worthy plus some amazing thank you bonus gifts for you at WorthyBook.com
or the link in the show notes below.
Imagine what you'd do if you fully believed in you.
It's time to find out with Worthy.
Who you spend time around is so important
as energy is contagious and so is self-belief.
And I'd love to hang out with you even more,
especially if you could use an extra dose
of inspiration, which is exactly why I've created my free weekly newsletter that's
also a love letter to you, delivered straight to your inbox each and every Tuesday morning
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And now more of this incredible conversation together.
And I'm not here to say that you just throw your hands in the air.
I'm here to say there's a huge difference between offering support and taking responsibility
for somebody else's healing.
And at some point, the person who needs the healing or the person who needs to stop feeling
sorry for themselves or the person who needs to confront their addiction and their patterns,
they have to take responsibility for wanting to change.
And you wanting it more for them won't make it happen.
It's true, but I'm just here to tell you the reality.
The reality is adults only do what adults feel like doing.
Yeah. And you can't make somebody else change. The reality is adults only do what adults feel like doing.
Yeah.
And you can't make somebody else change.
You can help somebody by letting them know how you feel and how their behavior hurts
you.
You can let somebody know the support that you're going to give.
You can let people know your boundaries.
I'm not saying it's easy.
I think when it comes to these just difficult situations,
so many of us have friends we know that are in unhealthy relationships.
And even in my families, there are people
that blame themselves and they're adults blaming themselves thinking, it's my fault that she's in this relationship and won't leave it or
things like that.
And so I just want to go back to this because a lot of people, this might be really freeing
for them right now.
Or confronting.
Or confronting.
Because we'd rather make Mel Robbins a bitch
than actually look in the mirror and say,
where can I own my own role in this?
And where can I find my power?
It's easier to blame the messenger
than to look in the mirror and say,
what can I take responsibility for?
Nowhere did I say you're at fault.
Fault is a very different word than responsibility.
Because when you get into the lane of,
I'm in fault and this,
now you're beating yourself up.
Now you're insecure.
Now you're feeling sorry for yourself.
I want you to do something different.
I want you to get very clear about what you're sick and tired of
and what you can take responsibility for.
For the person who says, Mel, no matter what I do, my friend just stays in this unhealthy
marriage or this unhealthy, she says she wants out or she's saying, my friends keep mistreating me, whatever it might be.
And she says she wants out.
How do they let them without feeling like, oh, I'm not doing enough or I'm looking the
other way or I'm turning a blind eye on abuse or something like that?
Excellent question.
So if somebody's in a terrible relationship,
what do we know?
There's nothing you can say
that will make them leave that person
if you confront it directly.
And the more that you attack the relationship
that they're in,
the more defensive they're going to be in it
and the more they're gonna stay in it
because they're gonna feel like you're attacking them.
And so when it comes to people in your life,
and let's just talk about varying degrees, right?
When there's somebody in your life that's dating somebody,
that's just not good for them.
You're gonna have to let them.
You just have to.
And the only thing that I have ever found that works in my life when I have had someone that I
deeply care about in clearly the wrong relationship, and I'm talking someone who did this for years, is the
more that they feel judged, the more distance it creates between the two of
you, the more they hide the reality of what's going on and how they really feel.
And so you need to let an adult be an adult.
You need to let them know the truth of how you feel.
And there's a particular way to do it,
which is not, I think your partner sucks
and he's abusing you,
which is going to be very confronting.
It's let them know the truth,
which is I'm worried about you
because you don't seem like yourself. How can I support you? confronting. It's let them know the truth which is I'm worried about you because
you don't seem like yourself. How can I support you? That's what you say. And
then what do you need to do? And this is the hardest part, you need to let them.
I'm worried about you. You don't seem like yourself. How can I support you? And what ends up happening is that over
time, since you're holding out the truth, that stays with somebody. And when you
get into the very scary situations, I was a trained crisis intervention
counselor working a domestic hotline for four years. I am not immune
to the realities of the psychological stranglehold that happens inside of a abuse cycle and the very
well-documented neurological programming that happens due to the honeymoon abuse cycle of horrible abuse, then tremendous apology, then quiet.
The intermittent nature of that
actually creates more of a trap inside somebody's brain.
I get that.
And there is nothing that another human being can do
when you literally confront it directly to change that fact. nothing that another human being can do
when you literally confront it directly
to change that fact.
What you can do is you can let them know,
this is where I'm responsible.
I'm not responsible for the relationships you're in.
I am responsible for telling you the truth and I am responsible for the relationships you're in. I am responsible for telling you the truth,
and I am responsible for offering support
to the extent I want to.
And that is the truth.
And we also know based on research,
it's a minimum of seven attempts to leave
a abusive relationship for somebody.
That's why telling the truth, I'm worried about you.
I am here for you.
I am here to support you.
The second that you are ready to leave, I am here.
And I know there's nothing I can do to make you do it.
But I want you to know I love you,
you are so strong and I'm here.
That is how you handle that. so strong, and I'm here.
That is how you handle that. And then you have to let them.
Because the more you judge that person is weak,
the more you have an opinion about it,
the more that you get all wrapped up around it,
they can pick up on your energy.
They know that you're judging them
and that you think that they're weak
and you're pathetic and you're all this stuff
because that's what your energy is portraying.
That's why this matters.
Do you intervene if somebody is spiraling?
Of course you do, you offer the support.
That might mean taking away the pills.
That might mean driving somebody to rehab.
That's the level of support,
but that's based on your boundaries and your truth.
boundaries and your truth. The let them theory, especially when it comes to a lot of the examples you gave that we
consume our days with, you know, why didn't he fold the laundry this way?
Why didn't, you know, X, Y, and Z?
Can we start that one?
Yeah, yeah, let's do it.
Why didn't he fold the laundry? Why didn't they load the dishwasher?
Why didn't they, or in my husband's case, why did Mel,
why does Mel always stack the cardboard boxes up
like a Tetris sculpture instead of breaking them down?
Like this drove him crazy because, you know,
everybody gets boxes to their house from Amazon.
And I hate having to do that thing where you,
you flatten them for recycling, okay?
At least we have to in Vermont.
And I always have this thing where I would like slight,
I would like the boxes would come,
I'd carry them to the garage and then I'd stack them up.
And I have these big plans that I'm gonna come back later
and I will do it when I feel like it, right?
Because why? Adults only it when I feel like it, right? Because why?
Adults only do what they feel like doing.
So can Chris change my behavior?
No.
I will change my behavior when I wanna change my behavior.
But here's what Chris can do.
Using the let them theory, Chris understands
he's gotta let me be me.
He can't make me change.
What is Chris responsible for?
His truth and his boundaries.
So Chris comes to me and he says,
can I share something with you?
I'm like, sure.
He said, you know, every time I walk into the garage
and I see the tower of cardboard boxes
waiting for some recycling fairy
to come flying in here and flatten them all out,
I feel like you think I am your servant.
And it makes me feel really kind of hurt
that you think that that's all that I'm here for.
Now, when Chris shares that,
I immediately feel terrible.
He's not shaming me,
he's telling me the truth about how he feels.
I don't want him to feel this way
So now what happens?
Because I don't want him to feel this way. I
now
Will flatten the cardboard boxes why?
Because I want to
Does that make sense and Because we don't take the time to recognize
that I am not responsible
for somebody else's change in behavior.
I am responsible for communicating what I feel,
what I value, how something impacts me,
what I need, what I value, how something impacts me, what I need, what my boundaries are.
And then the hardest part is what happens next.
Because once you have that communication
that really hurt me, it would make me feel great
if you were to do X.
The next time this happens, could you do Y?
The hardest part of a relationship is what happens next.
Because now it's back to the other person
and you're gonna let them and here's what's gonna happen.
They are revealing to you who they are.
If I don't flatten those boxes, it reveals to Chris
that I really don't care that he feels that way.
And this brings me to another law about human behavior.
that he feels that way. And this brings me to another law about human behavior.
People's behavior is the truest form of communication.
I can come up with a million excuses, Jamie.
Oh, I'm so busy, I have ADHD,
I'll get to it later, I didn't mean to.
That's just noise.
If you actually want to change
or you actually care about what the other person
just told you, prove it.
And by not doing it, I am communicating loud and clear
to Chris, I don't care.
And the hardest thing for us,
and this is where the let them theory
starts to get really deep,
is when you really unhook your emotions, Jamie,
and you let adults be adults,
and you take responsibility
for your side of the relationship,
which is your truth, your needs, your boundaries,
your wants, all that kind of stuff. And then somebody reveals their true nature.
Most of us don't want to face it.
And so if we go back to somebody who is in a relationship
that is very unhealthy, there was somebody
who has a narcissistic personality style,
there was somebody who's abusive.
If you embrace the let them theory
and you embrace this rule that you can't change this person
and that their behavior is the truth about who they are,
now it's on you to really try to separate how you feel
and what the other person is saying to really try to separate how you feel
and what the other person is saying from the reality of what this other human being
is showing you through their behavior.
And again, we don't wanna look at that.
Because then we have to look in the mirror and go,
what do I need to take responsibility for?
If I take what Mel Robbins is saying
and the let them theory is truth,
and if I take as truth that adults only do
what adults feel like doing,
and if I take as truth I can't make anybody change,
I can't make anybody like me, I can't make anybody change, I can't make anybody like me,
I can't make anybody love me,
because adults only do what they feel like doing.
And if this person's behavior is the truest communication
of who they are and what they care about,
now it's on me.
And I have to make a decision, an incredibly hard decision,
a decision that goes against all of the neurological programming
that has happened in this relationship,
a decision that will have to make me confront
the things about myself that I don't want to confront
because I'm responsible for what happens next,
regardless of all the stuff that went down.
And that's why I say you are always capable of changing for the better.
Whoo.
Mel Robbins, I love you.
I am grateful for our friendship.
I am so proud to call you my friend. I love you. I love you. Thank you.
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