The Jefferson Fisher Podcast - What They Really Mean When They Belittle You

Episode Date: September 23, 2025

A belittling comment is never about you—it’s about them. In this episode, I break down why people use belittling remarks as a grab for dominance, how to decode the real intent behind their words, ...and why it’s usually just a projection of their own insecurity. You’ll learn the exact questions to ask that shut down the power play, shift the spotlight back where it belongs, and keep you in control of the conversation. Thank you to our sponsors: Cozy Earth. Upgrade Your Every Day. Get 40% off at cozyearth.com/jefferson or use code JEFFERSON at check out. Masa Chips. Get 25% off at https://www.masachips.com/pages/jefferson  BetterHelp. Click https://betterhelp.com/jeffersonfisher for a discount on your first month of therapy. Order my new book, The Next Conversation, or listen to the full audiobook today. Like what you hear? Don’t forget to subscribe and leave a 5-star review! Suggest a topic or ask a question for me to answer on the show!  Want a FREE communication tip each week? Click here to join my newsletter.  Join My School of Communication Watch my podcast on YouTube  Follow me on Instagram  Follow me on TikTok Follow me on LinkedIn Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:27 or go to explorevolvo.com. A belittling comment from someone is never about you. It's about them. Today, in this episode, we are diving deep on the hidden meaning of belittling comments and asking the question, what do they really mean, and how do we handle them? All that and more coming up. Welcome to the Jefferson Fisher podcast, where I'm on a mission to make your next conversation, the one that changes everything.
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Starting point is 00:02:04 You need go to CozyEarth.com slash Jefferson, use the code Jefferson, and get 40% off. Go to CozyEarth.com slash Jefferson, use the code Jefferson for 40% off. When somebody makes a belittling comment to you, how do you react? What I am hoping is that by the end of this episode, that answer changes, or at least, you see a little bit more into the below the surface of what's happening between you and the person who's making that comment. The belittling comment, like I said at the beginning,
Starting point is 00:02:35 is not about you, it's about them. Number one, when somebody gives you a belittling comment, meaning something that's mean, rude, meant to make you feel little, to be little, it is, under no uncertain terms, a grasp at maintaining hierarchy. In other words, it's an assertion of dominance. The word belittle, right, to make you feel small
Starting point is 00:03:04 is to then make themselves feel big. And in process of that, and as a result of that, you have this levels, this system of here they are now. They've created a hierarchy in which they're on top and you are below. That's how you feel with a bully, right? Think of grade school, think of junior high, high school, wherever it is. Maybe you work, even now as an adult.
Starting point is 00:03:30 You have somebody who's a bully personality. Where do they picture themselves in that hierarchy? Bullies never think that they're lower than you. They think they're above everybody. Give me your lunch money. I have this spot. This is mine. That's mine now.
Starting point is 00:03:44 I am the one on top of the hierarchy. You must all now serve me. But little in comments are a grab for hierarchy. So that's why often, when people feel the most insecure, they have to reach for outside things, right, to have that inner, that inner sense of, that ability to live with themselves because they don't have that inner security, so they have to have that outer grab for it. And where we hear that, a lot of the times, is that reach for hierarchy and dominance and saying mean things to make you feel less.
Starting point is 00:04:20 Now, let me put this in a different view. Belittling comments are not always ones that are direct. Have you ever had somebody give you a belittling comment that you realized maybe a few minutes or an hour later of like, I don't think that was a compliment. You know what? I don't think they really meant that. I think that was a slight. Belittle and comments are not always direct. They can very much be indirect.
Starting point is 00:04:47 And still, it is a grab for hierarchy. So number one, what I want you to realize when somebody's giving you that kind of comment on the offensive is see it for what it is, and it is a grab for hierarchy. Number two, the best way to deal with that grab for hierarchy is to not take it personal by decoding the intent. Decoding the intent. In other words, rather than trying to see it in this glossary,
Starting point is 00:05:20 magazine style form, understand that there's hieroglyphics to it. In other words, there's this secret language that they're not giving you. So when somebody's saying something ugly, the best way to decode it is to use questions that look for the intent of what they're saying. I teach that the best way you can do this, and I have this all throughout my book, the next conversation, is that you use questions rather than responses when somebody's giving you something belittling. Not only because you're trying to get to the intent, but because you are trying to get them to see the intent. So let's assume you said something ugly to me right now. Go ahead, think of something ugly. Oh, that hurt my feelings. I'm kidding. If you had said something ugly
Starting point is 00:06:11 to me. And my question to you, after giving you a pause, was, did you mean to hurt my feelings? What does that do? What does that do? It immediately gets to the intent, the purpose, the motive. That's what you're looking for. If you said something mean to me and I went, excuse me, me, let me tell you something about you and just send it right back to you. And now I'm having that, that grab for hierarchy. Oh, you think you're this? I don't know if you know who you're talking to. Maybe I need to remind you who I am.
Starting point is 00:06:50 And you try to bow up, you try to get bigger. What is that? That is hierarchy grab. That is dominance. That is, I am the king of the mountain here. I'm the superior one. That almost always goes south and you never get the true motive. Instead, you're the one who has to live with that.
Starting point is 00:07:11 and have to now live with that regret and the wonder of what could have been had you not reacted so violently to it. And I don't mean physically, I mean with your words when you send it right back to him. But if I were to say, did you mean for that to offend me? Did you mean for that to embarrass me? Did you say that so that I would get uncomfortable?
Starting point is 00:07:33 You hear of me asking a question in trying to get to the intent? Shuts it all down. and now puts it all back on you, the person who said the mean thing, they go, I don't know. Maybe the spotlight is now back on you, maybe it feels a little awkward.
Starting point is 00:07:51 Maybe it all of a sudden just doesn't feel fun anymore because now you're going, this is not what I thought this person would say. When you decode the intent, what it does is help you realize that it has nothing to do with you. They're just in a bad mood. Maybe they're feeling insecure,
Starting point is 00:08:09 or maybe they're having, feeling like their job is insignificant or maybe they're jealous in things that have nothing to do with you whatsoever. And by looking to the intent, it is now you naturally go up in the hierarchy without doing anything whatsoever. That is control. That is the genuine kind of authentic power of using your words to stay in your ground. In other words, it naturally does that of a progression in the communication, not by trying to assert it. You feel the difference? So when you ask the question,
Starting point is 00:08:46 did you mean, did you mean for that to upset me? Did you mean, did you intend? Was the purpose of you saying that to do X, Y, and Z? Whenever you're able to ask those questions, you decode the intent for a better conversation. And for sure, if not a better conversation, to stand your ground and feel more confident and feel more controlled.
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Starting point is 00:11:34 feel about themselves. If they're judgmental about what you're wearing or how you are looking, you can be rest assured they are all the more critical and insecure about how they look. And they would much rather call attention to you than to them. If somebody is putting down your intelligence in some way, one, that's a sign of somebody not being intelligent. That's somebody who's being emotionally mature, who lacks that emotional intelligence. And so to make it up, they have to poke fun at your intelligence or your significance or how much your worth in your job and who's more important. I feel like a lot of struggles between married couples, between relationships and friendships and at work especially, it is a dominance of whose job is more important.
Starting point is 00:12:32 whose job is more important. And that breeds a lot of insecurity between both people. And so you'll hear comments where somebody's trying to put down your job. I mean, you just have to go to that meeting. I mean, but that's not even that. And they'll put it down because there is an actual insecurity of how they're feeling in that moment, of whether or not they even matter or do they even feel authentic to themselves. And it is natural and normal.
Starting point is 00:12:58 and we are all capable of giving belittling comments. I don't want you to feel like belittling comments just come from these unknown. It always comes from them. We have them to, all right? We have them too. And why? Because we know deep down,
Starting point is 00:13:13 if we have to go through the layers and are actually honest with ourselves, is because deep down we have an insecurity that we're masking to. So as part of decoding the intent, understand that it is simply a projection, of how they're feeling, and that helps inform you, that helps inform you of what's happening in that moment, and that is, it is a grab for dominance, and your best move is to not retaliate,
Starting point is 00:13:44 not respond, and use a question that goes to the intent that's going to give you the level of consciousness that you did not have before, and see that, oh, this is simply a projection, And now I'm looking at the intent. This is a projection of doubt. They're feeling. And now we're at the full circle is, it's not about you. It's about them. All right.
Starting point is 00:14:08 So number one, understand it's a power grab. It's an assertion of dominance and hierarchy. Number two, what you want to do is use intent, questions of intent, to decode what's happening, and it takes away that personal feeling and effect from you. And number three, it is simply a projection of their own. insecurity, which helps inform you where you truly stand. And if you are listening to this podcast and go, you know what, the next time I get a belittling comment, I'm not going to respond. I'm going to stay still. I'm going to control myself. I'm going to stay regulated. I'm going to
Starting point is 00:14:42 use a question of intent to find out what they really mean. And here you might be asking, well, Jefferson, what if they say yes? Did you mean to embarrass me? And they say, yes. Your response is, good to know. And act like it doesn't bother you at all. Because It shouldn't. It shouldn't. It's going to be let that weight be carried with them. They're the ones that are going to have to live with that, that yes, and deal with those emotions that they have to carry. Eventually, they're going to have to process that sometime in their life. Don't put that, don't you carry that. Most of the time people say no. They adjust, they walk it back. They feel awkward. They apologize. They feel sheepish. That right there, naturally, adjusts.
Starting point is 00:15:28 the control in the right way. All right, go forth and do good things, and remember to use your words for good. As always, you can try that and follow me.

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