The Joe Rogan Experience - #1015 - Reggie Watts

Episode Date: September 26, 2017

Reggie Watts is a musician, singer, beatboxer, actor, and comedian. His improvised musical sets are created using only his voice, a keyboard, and a looping machine.

September. September 9th. There we go. God. Completed my homework. Boom. So what was the day that we were supposed to die from Nibiru? I think it was the 20th.

It was Saturday. Yeah. 23rd? Is that right? 23rd? Yeah. Was it, Jamie? 33 days after the eclipse.

Oh. Then Nibiru was going to come and smash us. Wouldn't... Isn't it huge? Wouldn't we see it coming? Pretty big. It has to be pretty big. Yeah. It has to be pretty big. Do you know the whole Zacharias H to be pretty big do you know the whole zachariah sitchin thing do you know the whole

thing a little bit yeah i was kind of into that for a while me too um it was a while ago that i realized i was like super into it like art bell days yeah yeah i used to love art are you kidding remember when his son got kidnapped oh that's that's right. Remember that? Who kidnapped his son? It was really weird. I don't know. Was it real? I couldn't tell if it was real or not. That was the problem. Yeah, I used to listen to it coming home from the comedy store.

It was the thing to listen to. Yeah, there you go. 10 o'clock, late night, driving home. Yeah, totally. Totally. Art Bell, man. Midnight, Art Bell. Live from Pahrump, Nevada.

Yeah, Pahrump. So great. He had this fenced-in compound in Pahrump, Nevada. Yeah, Pahrump. He had like this fenced in compound in Pahrump, Nevada with a radio signal. I mean, he was like, in a lot of ways, he was like doing internet before the internet. Yeah, yeah, you're right. He was kind of like an aggregator, like a curator. I mean, he was a curator. It was conscious curation.

But is that what you mean? Like the content of what he was talking about Well, it was also like there's a lot of I would say there's a lot more people that have access to like UFO Conspiracy theory type stuff now because of the yes before then our Bell was like your only source for that I got you right right right that yeah. Yeah, the. The deep cuts. Yeah. That kind of stuff. What is this? This is his son kidnapping this pretty dark son. Son assaulted by HIV teacher.

Oh, Jesus. Let's not put that on there. Fucking. There's people out there. Yeah, I know. But Art Bell had this crazy fenced in compound that literally looked like it was in the middle of this open prairie. I never saw pictures of it. Yeah, they put pictures online who knows what I was looking at might not even been that

I might been like he faked people out with this but might live in a regular house Yeah, you want him to live in that situation I hope yeah, he's kind of like a you know in a way He was like a mystic those types of people, they're kind of like mystics. They're hermits. They live in like these weird places because they have to be, you know, in the right conditions to receive the information. Yeah. There's his house.

See, it's all like fenced in. Oh, wow. Yeah. That's a very large. That's a weird. Well, that's a weird. Like a compound. Someone's going over the fence.

He's got windmills for electricity wow he's got some big sort of truck he's got backed in there where he gets probably supplies he's a total prepper oh my god that's amazing our pal is incredible that's and it's blue is a bluish teal or something it is so like a beverly hills rundown motel color. You know? Is it Rambler? You know, like off tans and off blues? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Look at that tower, the radio tower.

It's so huge. This giant fucking tower in the middle of his yard. That can't give you cancer, can it? No. It should be, right? No. You're sure something's going on. No, it would never do anything.

What's that other one? I don't know. That's a, oh, I know what that is. That's a's i think that's a tv aerial isn't it maybe it's a radio maybe it's radio it looks like an old school tv thing it's these are fucking huge towers he has i know because he must yeah because he used he probably he did he broadcast from there so so yeah in a way that's another like internet reference art Bell was the first time I heard of Terrence McKenna outside of a Bill Hicks joke. One Bill Hicks joke. Oh, right.

He referenced, he said- Terrence McKenna, yeah. He was talking about five grams of dried mushrooms, or what Terrence McKenna would refer to as a heroic dose. Yes. And I was like, wow, who's Terrence McKenna? Yeah. And then I heard Terrence McKenna on the Art Bell Show, live from Hawaii.

What? What? Yeah. McKenna on the Art Bell show live from Hawaii. Terrence McKenna had this crazy setup in Hawaii where he lived in Kona on the mountain and he was totally off the grid, but way more than Art Bell. He was in the jungle off the grid. He would have these basins to catch rainwater. He had several acres around him, which he was growing psychedelic plants he had a thousand books he lived totally by himself he had like a generator for power and he was completely off the grid and he built the house there dude that's heavy he's just up there writing and tripping and then he would leave like every six months he

would take off and leave for six months and just do these tours where he would do these speaking things and like hippie places like Austin, Texas and Portland, Oregon and shit like that. And they would gather on all these people to listen to all of this stuff. Yeah. And if you've ever heard Psychedelic Salon, Psychedelic Salon is a podcast, a great podcast. And I've had Lorenzo from Psychedelic psychedelic salon on but it's all like old Recordings of Timothy Leary and Alan Watts. Are you related? I know I wish I really wish that I was related to him. That would be rather nice profound and with an English accent

Yes, he's very careful But he has all the McKenna recordings like like all of them, like way back, way back through time. He plays them all the time. McKenna was which time period? I sometimes get them fused with Leary. No, he was post Leary, but he was there. You know, he was there during that era, but he came into prominence post Leary. I think his main psychedelic experiences were in the 70s.

Like he had some really, really crazy mushroom trips with his brother Dennis, who was an amazing guy. Dennis is alive. He's alive. He's been on this podcast several times. Oh, great. He's a great guy. He's amazing.

And he's actually a professor. And Dennis, like, recounts all these tales. And one time, Terrence and Dennis went into the jungle and they took too many mushrooms. And Dennis completely lost his mind, like, went away for two weeks Wow for two weeks just incoherent rambling had some sort of a psychotic event like and just Like broke down the nature of reality itself just went way too deep. Yeah, it was gone

Yeah, like two weeks they had to watch him yeah they'd watch over him oh my god it's almost like he was exposed to such a complicated mathematical equation and it took him that long to figure it out and he came out of it he's like okay i figured it i'm back well you know terence came up with the idea of um the stoned ape theory and it wasn't just tenet terence it was terence along with a lot of other psychedelic researchers they sort of formulated some of the the parts of this hypothesis but the parts of this hypothesis had to deal with human beings evolving from lower primates because the lower primates were forced to try out new foods because the rainforest were receding into grasslands and

all these undulates who were eating up all the plants as they were growing up. They were shitting and they were leaving cow patties. And in these cow patties, the mushrooms, of course, would grow. So these monkey people like things were us that were living in the trees. They were forced to test out new food sources. And it coincides, this theory coincides with climate data that we know about changing of the temperatures back in Africa during that time. Yeah. And in these particular regions.

And he thinks that these lower primates started experimenting with mushrooms. They started eating. They flip cow patties all the time to get beetles and bugs and things along those lines. Right. And so they would flip it. Yeah. And they would pick these mushrooms out to see if they could eat them. And they would pick these mushrooms out to see if they could eat them.

Well, in low doses, mushrooms enhance visual acuity. So it would help you be a better hunter, makes you more sensitive, and it makes you more horny, which would make you more likely to breed. So you would be much more likely to be a successful hunter and more likely to breed. That's like a triple threat right there. Crazy. And that's outside of the psychedelic effects, right? The psychedelic effects of enhancing community, of creative thinking, all these things that happen when you do mushrooms in varying doses. And he believes that mushrooms are responsible for the doubling of the human brain size over a period of two million years, which is apparently the biggest mystery in the fossil record. Yeah.

It's so quick. Yeah, so quick. It's crazy. It's a total departure. And it's the organ responsible for the fossil record in the first place. Right, exactly, for the understanding of what a fossil record is. And the reason why we're writing all this stuff down. I mean, it's because of the mine.

Well, this mine doubled over a period of two million years. And I think what they think is there's a bunch of different factors. People argue about this, but I think it's really important to be balanced about this and go, I don't think of it as either or. I think there was a bunch of shit going on. Yeah, absolutely. They think it had to do with humans figuring out

fire and how to cook meat. They think cooking meat allowed people to get more nutrients, which allowed people to be healthier. And if you can kill one animal, you'd have more resources to sort of figure things out. They started thinking of shelters and weapons and all these different various things that led to civilization. There's one theory that goes along that way.

Trade. The throwing arm is another one. The fact that we could throw, that we could throw things, we could hit shit that was nowhere near us, like no other animal. That we could throw things, we could hit shit that was nowhere near us, like no other animal. And then once we figured out spears, we started, like, this ability to do this one thing might have led us to enough free time to start innovating. And then the brain, as time went on, favored the ones who were more innovative and more disciplined and more creative. And those are the ones that survive longer.

Yeah, which is obviously, like, what we reward in people today. Yeah, exactly. That's true. Fascinating. That yeah fascinating hasn't gone away no that hasn't gone away that totally makes sense i mean it's like you know i view in general the idea of awareness and consciousness as a you know as a metaphor it's many people use it but just like a computer operating system so so or you know consciousness experiencing itself infinitely you know but like that's like this form of an operating system and the the we live in a binary uh version of uh isolate which which is kind of like a game you know to then rediscover the the the the fact that that's not true it is true but it's also also not true. To arrive at the paradox, the answer of the... The thing that happens within a paradox, like a good joke.

Right, right, right. When you're like, here's the setup, here's the punchline. And so somewhere when those two things collide in a group of people, it will trigger a reaction. And if it's laughter, in that moment, it's trigger a reaction and if it's laugh at laughter in that moment it's it's understanding a paradox it's like feeling the effects of a paradox where it actually like right a very unique moment a crazy thing that like you didn't expect to experience because it's so different than everything else you experience in everyday life yeah it's like it's like everything and nothing simultaneously like you get that quick, because a joke kind of does that, at least in my opinion.

And that makes you feel like it gives everyone a sense of enlightenment for a moment. I know what you're saying. I don't think a joke does it the way a psychedelic experience does it. Definitely, there's like this weird moment when you're laughing at someone who's really killing. Like when you escape from the shackles of your normal thinking yes yeah yeah yeah totally and you and you it's just a joyfulness because it's uh it's like you get this perspective it's like such a zoomed out perspective on this thing in such a small instant of time that it's just like it's like being on a ride you know it's like you're just suddenly there and you know do you feel like when i've been talking about this a lot do you do you feel like that what's going on

is like a form of hypnosis when a comedian is like killing over a crowd like it's like a form of hypnosis because i always feel like when i'm watching someone on stage and they really got me i'm not really thinking i'm kind of allowing them to think for me and i'm just like sitting down smiling and enjoying the ride they take me on i'm not doing any analyzing myself especially that's like one of the reasons why it's very important to like really think carefully about people's attention spans and how to get these ideas into their head i think it is in a way it's like a state of mind that you achieve on stage that's very similar to hypnosis. Yeah. You're talking about the effect on people?

And you too. And the idea of what's happening. I think the comedian as well. Because I feel like it's my job to put all the pieces together and practice it and just tweak it. But when I get on stage and it starts happening, I feel like I'm as much of a passenger as I am the driver. Oh man. Yeah. That's a really great description. Yeah. I agree with that a hundred percent. I mean, you know, like sometimes I'll say that the feeling that I get on stage, if I'm, you know, making music or even just like riffing or whatever, is that I feel like I'm actually, I'm, I'm watching the show or I'm, I'm actually step out of myself and I'm actually kind of enjoying the show.

And then there'll be a moment where I'll be like, oh, fuck. Right. I'm also doing that. Well, you can't enjoy it too much. I'll snap back in. But in those moments, that's exactly, I dig that. Because it exists. It just depends on where your awareness lands.

You know what I always feel like, man? I always feel like the dude running the old school movie projector. Because you really just kind of turn it on, but you have to be there in case anything fucks up. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For the most part, it runs on its own. Do you remember that?

You didn't used to, though, when you'd go to the movies? Yeah, there was an operator. Yes. Yeah, there was just someone next to it just in case something fucked up. Do you remember when movies fucked up and you'd have to yell out? Oh, yeah. I do remember that. The film's down.

The film's down. Yeah. Those are great. I know. Those are great communal moments. Those are great. Absolutely. Yeah, the fuck ups, the chaos, that's great.

Yeah, man. That's the community. That's a real test of character to see whether you talk in a movie theater. Oh, yeah. What do you mean? Like the kind of people that talk in movie theaters? Like during a movie? Like you really know whether or not you can hang out with kind of people that talk in movie players during them? Yeah, like you really know whether or not you can hang out with someone if they talk in a movie

Yes, absolutely hundred percent because if someone starts talking the movie theory like hey, you're inconsiderate Yeah, oh totally or unless like you know for me I have this like little secret that once if it's a brief comment I don't really much so much But yeah, this is secret get really quiet and get close to their ear and don't whisper just speak in kind of a like Right because the higher your whisper is it's much more sibilant and everyone can hear it so whispers are actually louder It's pretty hushed tone Anyways, also the people that just start talking about normal shit. Oh, yeah

Yeah, totally has nothing to do with the movie. You're like Debbie called Machina you asshole this guy's gonna get killed by a robot lady Come on are you interested in seeing how that even comes to be shut the fuck up? She's about to kill it Yes, like Troy was really angry the other day. What? Troy? Are you talking about Troy where we're at the movie? This is Avatar 2, motherfucker. What's going on? Shit's in three.

I'm wearing glasses. Totally. That's the crazy thing. Hey, you know, it's just coming out this fall. I don't know. It's just really weird. We're watching something now. Who gives a fuck what's going to happen in the future?

You might not even be alive. I might kill you for talking in the movie theater. So, I know, you have no idea how I'm gonna react. You're really taking a big risk. Man, I'm really hungry. Let's get something to eat after this. What? What?

That's later. To people that can't even wait an hour to eat, like, no, I have to be filled now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I need to fill my holes. Totally. Totally. I get it. You know, because your holes get lonely. I need to fill my holes totally you know because your holes get lonely I need to fill my face

hole with food immediately I can't survive yeah that's tough man that's a tough racket because some people I don't know some I mean obviously there are people that have like this weird thing that happens when you know that hangry

thing or whatever. Their bloodshed. So then they kind of get crazy. However, I will say, for the most part, it's about discipline. And the discipline turns into just nature. And then you get a better sense of how. If you are hungry, you're like, you know what? I'm hungry.

And that's fine. Yeah, you can be fine. I'm going to be hungry. I can live for a few days without food. Days so so a few hours or like four hours extra i'm gonna be fine did you hear about the guy that lost like more than 100 pounds by fasting for an entire year he had uh doctors monitoring him it was all part of some sort of scientific experiment and uh we had we were talking about him with Rob Wolf correct is that who was telling us about it or was it Dom de Agostino like in the

60s or something no no fairly recently yeah fairly recently because the doctors were monitoring him he lost over a hundred pounds and here's what's really crazy his skin shrunk with him like his body corrected for itself yep which is like what because he went into a complete state of ketosis right where it's his body's only fuel was from the actual extra fat in his body and then when his body started consuming this I mean he could have like really bizarre genetics where his skin doesn't stretch out this is it right 450 pound man fast for a year, and he lost more than half his weight. Yeah, I think that's it.

It says it happened in 1965. Oh, is that the same one? I think so. See if there's a recent one. Whoa. Because if Rob Lowe was talking about that, they had all these color photos of the guy that looked really recent. Okay, I'll double check.

You might be right. But I think it was a recent. Maybe they recreated it. Maybe that's what it was. But this guy, whatever it was, all he did... Oh, is this the same one? Yeah, same thing. All he did was drink water.

And his body just ate its fat. I don't know if he took vitamins or what. He had to take some fiber because he needs stuff to go through his system. Damn, I wish Rob Wolf was here. I'm pretty sure he's the one who told us about it. What I think was the most shocking was that his skin shrunk, too. That's the weird thing. us about it what i think was was the most shocking was that his skin shrunk that's that's the that's the that's the weird thing i mean i mean with weight

loss like i lost like around 50 about 55 pounds damn how'd you do that i just started uh lifting i got a trainer and started lifting and then basically eating like a bodybuilder so just just and that's how i eat for the most part do Do you feel better that way? Oh man, way better. It's crazy. Isn't it crazy? People sometimes will look at the food that I'm bringing, which is always pretty much the same thing. What are you eating?

For breakfast, it's like this, what he calls the Yorgie shake, my trainer. He has this shake that he digs, and it's like half kefir, half, or no, a cup of, yeah, a cup of oats, raw oats, half a cup of kefir, half a cup of water, and then 35 grams of J-Rob chocolate, egg white protein, oh, and a handful of frozen blueberries. Damn, so you've got a lot of good stuff going on there. You got antioxidants. You got probiotics from the kefir.

You got some carbs from the oats. You got protein. Yeah. See, we just eat good. It's so funny because the problem is there's a lot of fucking dummies that also eat good and they're annoying. And for regular people that like want to be healthy, but they don't want to be that annoying guy at the gym that's just fucking just droning on and on about his sets and his lifts and you start thinking that being healthy is for idiots

Yes, right. I know it gives it a bad rap It's not it's not that you know my the my favorite thing that I've been learning like lifting and Sometimes I go to Gold's on Saturday like as a treat so like we go to Gold's in Venice And it's what I love about anything that I get involved with is just observing like how the system works, you know, and like community, the community, like what's the level of awareness? Like what are they focused on? Those types of things. And the thing I really dig about lifting is that it's not what you think. Like I think people think like, oh, meatheads, you know, roided up, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

And don't get me wrong. There are some of those for sure and um it wouldn't be a real gym without without a couple but like you go into you go into gold and man people are so respectful yeah very friendly very friendly very respectful they help they like rack rack their weights they help you they re-rack if you're working in um they uh get things out of the way they think about like stuff like being in the way or not you know there's there's a lot of like really cool conscious hey let me help you yeah oh you know that lift that you're doing right there's putting too much stress on

your on your shoulder you might want to like pull in a little bit with your elbow or whatever just a tip you know those guys are great the guys that are annoying are the guys that want to correct you and they're wrong oh man no don't ever do that do that exercise you and they're wrong? Oh, man, no. Don't ever do that exercise. No, you can't do that. Okay, why would I do that? You just can't do that. There's guys that just have this idea in their head that they need to absolutely tell you their knowledge. Oh, man.

It must come out now. It's weird. And you can tell the difference. Yeah. Because if someone's giving you a small piece of corrective advice for an exercise that you're doing in the moment or That you're doing so it's not a critique of the exercise itself It's more like I'm looking at you doing this exercise and here's a little piece that might make it more efficient Right, I'm better better use of your movement or whatever you that's great

I get that and you can you get that right away like oh that's dope i'll try that and if it works it works if it doesn't doesn't you know but when someone's like coming up on these giant concepts like these uh just just things that are too large to give to someone that you don't know right and they just start firing it out at you yeah with all these like physiological words yeah yeah yeah yeah totally well yeah I mean if we can yeah sure man yeah that's thanks man thank you yeah all about isolate my scapula super important about my super spinatus and all these words are like, oh, what are we doing here? Your duogenum.

I feel like you're jerking off on me or something. Jerking off on me with your knowledge. Knowledge jerking. There is knowledge jerking, right? For sure. People do that. They definitely knowledge jerk on you. Absolutely.

Yeah. And it gets grouped in with mansplaining, which I think is like another form of, it's just a generalized, general human term. Have you heard he peed? It's a new one. Oh, what's you heard he peed it's a new one oh what's that he peed is when a woman says something and everybody ignores it and the man says the exact same thing oh great idea that's fucked i know what that i know what that is and that's fucked i do not like that there's nothing that pisses me off more it's like when someone's like

here let me let me capitalize on an idea that was not really delivered at the right timing. You know, whatever. It's like, but I'm just going to claim responsibility. Yeah, don't say, Debbie just had a great idea. Yeah. Yeah. That's the difference between a good person and a cunty person. Oh, man.

Debbie just had a good idea as the good person. Hey, everybody, Debbie just had a great idea. Yeah. The bad guy's like, I got a great idea. Yeah, totally. And Debbie's like, what the fuck? Debbie doesn't know what to do. Yeah.

Debbie's like, this fucking job sucks. Yeah, totally I knew this guy was an asshole Here's my proof that culture of like not like being in a corporate world and like one person is the boss and the other people Have to kiss ass on the boss, but then the boss has a boss the regional boss was coming by everybody tighten up Yep, and he's gonna put his good tie on yeah Yeah, I know No, I know the only time that system works is if the boss is a really Good person being a boss. Yeah, that's the only time which is very very rare super rare because they're playing against it Yeah, that's what's happening. Well. You have to exist you have to exist by while ignoring all the trappings of boss yeah right right right if you're just looking at like just from a rational

logistic like efficient making mindset like you want you want you want and and what the value of efficiency also relates to the happiness of the workers and there will be not coddling too much but providing just the just the right amount of things, plus a little bit extra to give it the grease that it needs to feel good. And also finding people to fill your team that are like-minded or willing to kind of think that way. Yes. Where everybody kind of works together almost as a family.

Yes, exactly. I'm sure those jobs exist. I know I've talked to people that love their jobs. I know there's people like that that are putting it together right. I think that there are companies, and if not, there are moments when companies are like that. Yeah. You know, because everything changes, so it might not be sustainable. If we keep going, I feel like, you know, people like to look at the worst aspects of any point in time, right?

Whether it's with climate change or a crazy presidential situation or race relations or whatever. We always look at the worst aspects of it. But I think overall, it's pretty undeniable this is the best time ever to be alive in terms of healthcare, in terms of the science behind keeping people alive, in terms of your ability to get information, in terms of our ability to communicate with each other and bullshit to get through to us. It's way less likely that bullshit gets through to people today than the propaganda they could spew just in the 1960s and get over on us. That's the Gulf of Tonkin thing, the whole reason why we got into war.

So I just think that if we can keep it together and we can keep going, I think 40 years from now, 50 years from now that's gonna i think we're gonna realize that that should be the norm and that the really healthy communities is going to be the norm and all these things this is like almost like uh aberrations that we when we look back in time and think like people who were kings and they had people under them and they executed people at their own whim and that you know that only exists in a few places today it's like north korea and like maybe a couple other places i feel like in the future we're all going to move towards it we're just it's just hard to see while we're in it we're all moving towards a better way of living yeah yeah i mean i i mean i think of it you know if i if i go back

to that um like the reality awareness issue or uh the idea that you know there are multiverses and that every choice splits off and makes another choice makes another choice so in essence if just a yeah in essence if anything is possible if if if the amount of realities and possibilities that exists are infinite and but we're like perceiving one point, you know, as a, whatever a consciousness experiment or whatever you want to call it. But as your point of reference,

as you move in every choice that you make, you can actually steer yourself to the reality that you want to live in. So, I mean, I think that there's, there's something great about seeing the trajectory of what you just described and moving towards that future but being proactive in the way that you can and but i think really the i think the thing

that's really going to help all of that is energy like if we can figure out a way to distribute energy so that it's more equal amongst all human beings on the planet. Right. You mean energy in terms of power, actual power, electrical power, solar, wind power? Yeah. I would feel like there's a lot of places in the earth that would benefit from some super advanced form of solar because it feels like that. Free energy.

Yeah, for sure. Why even ever have power plants? Why have any of that stuff? We can all be independent and we don't have to rely on a grid either this way. No, no, no. It distributed power is the, is the best power, especially if it is connected because then you have, it can manage itself. I mean, even with like, you know, artificial intelligence and things like that, or just really good programming, it just optimizes constantly in real time based on a sensor array. Well, you know, they use really good, um, back

country solar panels to charge batteries for cameras and batteries for phones. That's right. My friend Adam was in Montana and, uh, he was in Colorado, no Montana, Idaho, and Wyoming. He went on this epic back country hunt. And one of the things that he did is he brought this, uh, solar thing to charge his phone every day and he would do insta stories from the top of the mountain yeah amazing amazing stuff but that you couldn't do that just a few years ago i mean there wasn't the kind of solar power that you could pack up in a little thing and stuff into your backpack i mean it's crazy i know yeah i was i was checking out there's a company out of australia that makes these solar generators and they're like 17 grand or something like that or maybe even oh no they might even be're like 17 grand or something like that or maybe even oh no they

might even be more like 30 grand so anyways it's this like fairly lightweight system it's like a mast system that has a base and um and a solar array and it tracks the sun uh so it moves automatically with the sun and it accounts like it also has like some other pre-programmed weather data that's also integrated into it, either real-time or stored. But it's able to produce a pretty decent amount of electricity. I don't remember the numbers, but it was definitely way more than a trickle charge. You could run a refrigeration system on it, like a small refrigeration system. So you could keep food from perishing and maybe even get some air conditioning going or something yeah i think with a storage battery 20 years from now who knows

how crazy this shit is going to be well i mean you know if you i just got done seeing that uh that documentary uh i don't know i don't remember the name of it but it's a kind of kind of conspiracy ufo uh documentary it's the fairly recent one? Yeah, it's fairly recent. Is it Dr. Stephen Greer, that guy? Not sure. It's on iTunes. It's featured on iTunes. Do you remember the name of it?

I can find it. Like the unknown or something? Yeah. Like that. Yeah, that seems right. Unacknowledged? Yeah, unacknowledged. Did you like it?

There's Art Belly. It was kind of Art Belly, actually.nowledged. Yeah, unacknowledged. Did you like it? There's Art Belly. There's, it was kind of Art Belly, actually. Art Belly. Those are tough shows for me to watch because it makes sense. Like some of the stuff that they're talking about, that makes sense. But my theory is that the level of organization that they're talking about doesn't really exist like it's not that tight i think i think it's kind of messy i think it's it's the same thing like just look at kids on a playground and see how they organize themselves socially and then just expand that with a little

bit more of complexity or more complexity and you have these this idea of like the secrecy the structure of secrecy and uh yeah you know ancient uh uh like cults that have now risen you know to rosicrucians and uh masons and the illuminati in those those types of things i think that those they can like that sort of thing does exist, but it doesn't exist in the tight, efficient, controlled version. I think it's I think it's messier than that. I think it's people trying to influence other people using a bunch of tactics. But I think that you can't have control. You can't have that much control as as much control as they're talking about well The only way that would work is if the government was different than people

Like if they were right if they weren't if it was a native people yeah, I got really wasn't people yeah They were so smart that they weren't people Then that could be possible, but obviously that's not the case Donald Trump is the fucking president Yeah, we have proof that the government is filled with people. That guy's a person. You know, for sure. He's so person. Right?

So no person has ever been able to pull off that level of conspiracy for any length of time. And the idea that you could hide somehow communication with aliens. Yes. And that the aliens would choose the government of all people. Why would the aliens give a fuck who we picked in our popularity contest? Oh, that's the representative that gets to speak to Zeta Reticuli. Yes They talk to whoever they want it's like man go and check when we visit a bee colony excuse me I speak to the queen. No he stick on fucking

Secret contact you just suck some bees out with a vacuum and take them to a lab to test them. Hey, guys, listen. I need you to go back to the queen and ask. We need to go to the king. Can you imagine some fucking dude sitting in the White House at the Oval Office and the alien walks in? I am the representative of it. I mean, this is like a 1940s movie, right? It just doesn't make any it doesn't make any sense i i believe i believe in

like so many things so infinitely uh that things can exist and things are possible however there are things that are just like it just makes sense you know it intuitively you can feel some connection to it where you're like you know what i'll leave a 10 margin of possibility you know like you know something like that but there are ideas where I'm like, I can't. I just can't. It could be real, but I've seen nothing that compels me to believe that it is. But it could be real. I'm definitely not saying there are no aliens or the government hasn't been contacted by aliens or aliens haven't visited Earth. Sure. Sure. I mean...

Why not? We would do it. I mean, I don't think it's impossible. I mean, why not? I mean, I don't think it's impossible. But again, I think it's not in to the extent at which. Yeah. When you compress all the data and you like formulate a story about it, you know, highly unlikely. Yeah.

It's like, well, I don't know. It seems you have you kind of have to do that. Like you can't talk about that stuff. It also seems super likely to me that in the future we won't send biological entities into these places that have all these limitations. As far as like what we can survive, we'll send some sort of an artificial intelligent. Yep. Maybe that's what those things are.

Those gray things, the big black eyes, maybe those are robots. Oh man. Makes sense. But then the question is, it's, you know,

my theory is that the whole, our propulsion or compulsion to, toulsion to constantly be making technology is based on our desire to make or build ourselves outside of ourselves. Yeah. So without the normal biological means, it's like we're fascinated at simulating ourselves outside of ourselves. Yeah. And so in essence, we could just be that already. Right. And so it's like we're just like on this constant carrot chasing propulsion system.

Yeah. There's a lot of people that when they look at the image of the alien, they look at that image and they say that it's entirely preposterous that someone would achieve or something would achieve a humanoid-like shape with all the massive amounts of different shapes that we have on Earth. Yes. Right? Just to be mobile, that's not the only way to be mobile. No. We know how ours came to be, that we used to be crawling and then we started standing upright. That's why we have all these issues with our spine.

Yeah. Our spine wasn't entirely designed to support upper body weight. That's right. Yeah. Yeah, that's right Yeah, and you know the other thing is It's one of my pet peeves and I'm just putting this in this the spectrum of science fiction Every every celestial body every planet every moon had they all have different gravity. Yeah Yeah. So there's going to be different types of creatures. Not only that, but when they come to our planet, they're either going to need a really strong exoskeleton suit or they're going to be so incredibly strong, you know, that it wouldn't matter.

Also, atmospheric gases, like all, you know, like how they produce energy. There's such a vast complexity that we, life is the way that it is now because of all of the elements that were present at the times that they were present in our reality. And so, and even if you take it on a software level, like something like, what was that game Spore, where it was like, it was built on like a generative. You could create entire universes. Yeah. And they would, and they would kind of create on their own based on like your light touches. And they would be infinite. Jamie, didn't you

say that got boring though? Because there's really nothing happening in these infinite universes? That was a newer game. Oh, that's No Man's Sky? Yep, yep, yep. No Man's Sky. So a similar idea? Yeah. Yeah, that's you have to really, you know the problem with those things is I know we're jumping around a lot but I it just that's the whole show

oh that is the show okay we jump around we're like okay so when should we start talk about whatever yeah it's really good I like it there's no rules yeah so when you oh so this is what is this these are creatures this came out like pride 10-15 years oh this is dope it is this? These are creatures. This came out like probably 10, 15 years ago. Whoa, this is dope. It starts super small. It's little one-celled organisms, and it works all the way up to an organism getting on land, and then you're really running a whole planet. So when these things are happening, these little fuckers evolve?

Yeah. What? Yeah, they evolve. You can design them and all that. Oh, you can design them? That's hilarious. And what are your tasks? Oh, you have to fight ants here.

Eat, survive. Whoa. Whatever, Earth.. And what are your tasks? Oh, you have to fight ants here. Eat, survive. Whoa. Whatever. You can get lost in these fucking things, man. Then you can, yeah, see, and now there's like tribal culture with hierarchical leadership. Now, are these other things you're interacting with artificial or are they other humans? This game is all, yeah, this was kind of pre-multiplayer online stuff. Wow.

Yeah, so basically you evolve all the way to spacefaring. Dude, they're so cool looking. They beat the fuck out of each other with sticks, though. I'm going to get past that shit, man. See, that's the thing. That's the thing that makes us, that's what I call human beings, the human race, a simulation species. It's like everything that we do, we generate our ideas. Everything that we do, we generate our ideas.

They're all based on our observation of the world around us and then utilizing that in some way for ourselves. And so design of things, why we color things the way they are, certain chemicals, or why things look the way they look, or the shape the way they're shaped, all of that. So when I see a game about simulation, of course, we're going to make a game about simulations. Arguably, like children playing with dolls and figures and stuff like that, it's another form of simulation. But the idea of having the awareness of another reality and projecting the idea that you want with bigger, I guess, more control. Yeah.

Um, having control over a representation of your idea of, of a desired reality is crazy. I mean, that's like, it's like simulation within simulation within simulation. And it's, it's totally, uh, to me, a nice piece of evidence for that. Yeah. I think we're going to get better at it and it's going to get indiscernible. You're going to be able to put some headphones on, and they're going to plug some stuff, maybe put some of those greasy pads with the wires. Some wetware?

Yeah, they're going to put that stuff connected to your head in all these various places. They're going to hook you up with this machine, and you're going to go somewhere that's so much cooler than reality. You're going to be like, fuck reality, man. Yeah, you're gonna will it you're gonna you're gonna go and do your stupid job at Home Depot and you're like fuck this job Yeah, gonna come home and you're gonna put that thing on I have to figure out a way to stay in here. I have to stay in the world. Yeah like surrogate Tron world what surrogate surrogate the movie?

Bruce Willis. Oh, yeah yeah that's right i remember that movie remember that so it's all it's all about telepresence yeah so people were like just in pods but it's kind of they had like a robot body yeah they had a robot body yes that's right yeah and there were people like jumping off of like buildings and shit because they could there were no consequences yeah you know uh so so what they looked like underneath look at that yeah half whoa freaky yeah she's hot though surrogate hot as a robot yeah bruce willis is younger with yeah that was like one of the first uses of cgi too to make someone younger in a movie oh yeah that's right like look how beautiful his skin looked that's yeah very smooth yeah super smooth they Very smooth. Yeah. Super smooth. They just did that recently with Guardians of the Galaxy 2. With who?

Kurt Russell. Kurt Russell is the bad guy. They did, yeah. You know the one time that I noticed the most was Tron. The new Tron. Yeah, that's right. That's where they like, I remember that being like, exposed as like, this breakthrough.

I mean, it's a Benjamin Button. It looked faked as fuck. It looked fake as fuck. I mean, it wasn't like you know faked as fuck it looked fake as fuck I mean it wasn't a simulation even the fact that it wasn't a simulation a video game Still looked fake within the video okay Kurt Russell though looked amazing Temple dude he looked perfect. I mean he looked really good. Oh, he looks yeah No, that looks he looks like a 35 year old Kurt Russell That looks great. It is really good and the moon natural fun shit. Oh, it's like you talking about too. Yeah

I you know the one thing that really pissed me off was a Baby Groot I hate when they put baby characters. I don't like can't stand it. It's so obvious It's such an obvious play It's like remember it is obvious even more obvious play. It's just like... I know. It's like, remember... It is obvious. Even Mork and Mindy when they added Jonathan Winters. I didn't... Don't be afraid of obvious things that are awesome.

Like big tits. Well, they worked once. Okay. That's a totally different thing, man. That's a totally different thing. But obvious things that are awesome. There's another... I know that little baby Groot was cute. I love love him i could not stand that opening sequence with like the he's like being

casual and he's taking out all the bad guys i'm like that's so gross i don't like singing oh yeah yeah like it's the opening sequence yeah i loved it i mean i couldn't i didn't i'd know you know what though dude i'm a dork for comic books man dude? I'm a dork for comic books, man. I've always been a dork for comic books and comic book movies. And I'm so good. Like, I'll make fun of people for liking pro wrestling. Like, Hulk, you know what's happening. You know it's fake.

You know it's fake. And they're like, I know it's fake. That's not the point. Yeah, right. Because Game of Thrones is fake, too. And we'll go back and forth. Meanwhile, I'll get fucking thrilled when David or Bruce Banner turns into the Hulk. Oh, I love that shit.

Yeah. I get amped up. Oh, I love that. That, that I have no problem with. That's so corny though. I liked, I liked, no, that's not corny. It shouldn't make me angry. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry.

I love that shit. I always do that. Have you ever heard that? Oh man. Could you imagine? What's, what's his name a british comedian um really brilliant kind of alt guy um did uh jerry springer the musical and it's like it didn't take it didn't take off and there are those questions like protesting it um they're

protesting his music yeah it was crazy it was like it was like really big and they it didn't happen or something like that like the the theater big and it didn't happen or something like that. The theater decided not to do it or something like that. Oh, that's funny. Rich. That's so crazy. What is it? Richard Thomas? No. No.

Not Richard Thomas. He's got a program right now. He's on TV and the BBC. Anyways, he's this brilliant He has a joke program right now. He's on TV and the BBC. But anyways, he's this brilliant... He has a joke about Ang Lee. The guy who did the Hulk? Yeah, yeah. So, yeah.

And his whole thing is just insane. It's a long joke. It takes like seven minutes. The setup is just him talking about how he he worked with angley and at the end of this interview he said um angley you wouldn't like me when i'm angley something like that and angley not getting it and then him explaining the whole lead up back to that again and then angley not getting it, and then him explaining the whole lead-up back to that again, and then Ang Lee not getting it, and then explaining it again. And it just goes, it's, I think I'm remembering it right, but it's just brilliant.

And it's such an abstract, weird slice of a way to get to a punchline, and it's just, it's perfect. A Hulk punchline. It's a Hulk. Of arguably the worst Hulk movie of all of them. Yeah, definitely. Definitely the worst. The Eric Bana banner one yeah who's i loved him in chopper but i didn't love him as bruce banner yeah even though his last name was banner and i thought that's pretty close to banner i didn't do it you know why it would fuck me on that movie i went to see it high

and when you go to see high movies bad movies just like are offensive when you're high like what what are you making me believe? What? I know. What is this? I'm aware of the illusion you're casting, wizard. Yeah, that's a problem. Remember they had Hulk dogs in that one.

Yeah, I did. Nick Nolte. The Cerebus. It was like the three or two-headed dogs. Was that two-headed? I remember it was a Hulk dog. I don't know if it had more than one head. I think it had more than one head.

I think. Because it was Nick Nolte's dogs. He was the dad, remember? He was the scientist's dad. Yeah, that's right. He turned into a jellyfish. Is that the one where he turned into a jellyfish at the end? Did he? He had jellyfish DNA. Oh, there's the Hulk dogs. Look at them. Hulk poodle. Oh, yeah. No, they weren't. Hulked out poodle in a Hulked out

pit bull. Holy shit. What a weird. Look at them. That's amazing. What a strange. Like at them. That's amazing. What a strange. Like these are the creatures they're going to be facing. Look at that hulked out poodle. I mean. Yeah. That's.

Yeah. Remember that happened? It essentially turned into the hulk versus a hulk dog. So when the dogs would get fired up, the same thing would happen to them as happened to the hulk. That's right. Yeah. That's right.

Hulk dogs. And didn't he get bigger? look at that thing biting him on the back and didn't he get bigger? Depending upon how much radiation fucked up shit was happening life like shot him with bullets He kept getting bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger Yeah, maybe that oh yeah, that's right. I remember that yeah, because he just keeps absorbing the energy Yeah, I'm so I can add a clear a in a nuclear blast. And he's got madder. He just kept getting bigger. That's right. Could you fucking imagine, like, of all the superpowers, that's the one that I think so

appeals to kids like me when I was young, when I was little and worried about the world and nervous and, you know, you get picked on. You're like, how cool would it be to just be able to just get angry and all of a sudden become this bulletproof thing that can leap through the air. Yeah, I know. That's the most, it's like freedom. Yeah. Like max freedom. But it was so corny, like the words that he would say that they, you could only read it.

Oh, yeah. As a comic book, when you're reading a comic book that's different than when you hear people speaking yeah like even in the avengers when he takes uh what is it loki yeah loki loki and he beats the fuck out of him puny human oh yeah you know it's just no it's no man no but if you saw a 1970s hulk lufregno just like i mean i mean comic like comic in the 70s and just like like he's beating the fuck out of loki yeah and loki's kind of like like kind of fucked up and hulk is just you know motionless and then it said that he'd be like yeah that makes sense he would say that he would definitely say that and that's cool yeah there's a lot of things you could only

read people saying yeah totally, totally. Totally. Like, handicap. I mean, no one says tch. Yeah. Like, handicap. Wow, that's a blast from the past. Tch. Is there any more popular cartoons?

Are there any more Dilberts out there in the world? Do you mean, like, hand-drawn comic strips? Are there ones that people, like, look forward to every day? There must be. You're about to hear something from from i'm sure right get ready i mean you have to read the newspaper probably right right but who the fuck reads newspapers anymore i don't know man yeah and and and online publications unless it's the new yorker usually don't do um comic strips right it's just the articles and if they do it's probably like a one-off by an artist rather than a series like Andy

Kapp or Dilbert or, you know what I mean? Yeah, totally. It's maybe a one-off with Obama and Trump standing next to each other talking or something like that. Yeah, exactly. It's just a picture. Yeah. It's just one, it's like Playboy style.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. One picture, a punchline or a joke underneath. Yeah, I remember those Playboy ones where you're like, whoa, this is crazy. I was a little kid. Get a hold of them and be like, what in the fuck am I reading? I know. This girl with her tits popping out and the guy's trying to grab her. I'm like, what?

And it's humor. It's like adult humor. It's adult humor, but today it's totally rape culture. There's a lot of shit that was in Playboy magazine, those ads that if you saw, or those cartoons rather, if you saw it today you'd be like you can't print this there's no there's no fucking way there's no way it's uh i mean it's is it as bad no it is it is i was just gonna say is it as bad as mickey rooney and breakfast at tiffany's i don't remember that movie yeah that don't i mean watch it but as soon as mickey rooney's

character comes on, it is... I might not have ever seen that, which doesn't make sense to me. Really? No, it makes sense. Breakfast at Tiffany's is like one of those movies you hear about all the time, but you may not ever see it. Yeah, that might be the case. Yeah. I might not have ever seen it.

I remember trying to see it, and I couldn't finish it because of Mickey Rooney. Oh, he's just a douche in it? No, he plays a Chinese man. Oh, God. That's right. Or no, Japanese. Is he Japanese? He's Japanese.

Yeah, that's Japanese. Or is he wearing a Japanese thing saying he's Chinese? It says Mr. Yunioshi. Oh, no. Oh, okay. It's definitely Japanese, yeah. Okay, so at least I thought it was going to get really terrible with like mixing Asian cultures. But apparently you remember when Katy Perry had to apologize for wearing a kimono because

people felt like it was offensive to Japanese people that she was culturally appropriating. She was like, had this big sit down with. What about Bjork? I don't know about her. Bjork in one of her album covers. Oh, that's right. But that was a different time when it was acceptable. Oh, you're right.

It's grandmother day. Yeah. So she had apologized. And when she was apologizing, remember she made this video that will make your fucking brain hurt. She's sitting there with dream How do you say Mackeson from black lives matter and they're sitting on a couch cross-legged with their shoes off which by the way Nobody know nobody knows. No. Yeah sit down that like that with me. I'm like, hey, what are we doing here?

Yeah, that's trying to be comfortable. Well, this is definitely weird terrible setup How about we just give us a comfy chair? Well, it's in here terrible setup. How about we just give us a comfy chair? Sit here and talk to each other like fucking humans. It would be different if they were on kind of organic-looking furniture, and they were dressed more as human people. And I don't know. You know what I mean? Well, she was addressing her hair.

This was the thing. She had to address her hair because she did something where she had braids, and people were getting mad at her because she culturally appropriated, and then she also addressed her idea of dressing up like a geisha. So the problem is, when they went over and talked to people, geishas are from... Where are geishas from? Why do I want to say China?

No, it's Japan. Yeah, it is Japan, right? Yeah, it's like the thing that people just don't understand. So they went over there. Yeah, there's the braids. She had to apologize for braids. Who's that? That's her.

It's Katy Perry. Damn. What? She look good there. She look good. She look good there. So they went over to Japan to talk to these folks. And they universally were saying when they interviewed people in the street that they're

happy that someone is expressing Japanese culture and that they're aware of Japanese culture. And they thought it was a very good thing. They didn't think it was bad at all. Like they don't have the same feelings about cultural appropriation as some people do with fucking braids. Yeah. Yeah. I get it. Well, but it's the United States, right? We're sensitive. We're super sensitive. We've gotten very sensitive. You know what it is? It all comes from, uh, the litigious culture. You think so? Oh, absolutely.

The fact that you can get sued for anything, anybody can sue you at any time, that's just like, that's American culture. That's what you do. It's like, you know what? You pissed off someone, like, enough, you can sue them. And so there's a lot of like suing, suing, suing, enough successful cases along the way. That's part of, it's like a fear-based operating system right so calling people on shit yeah maybe they didn't even think was bad yeah it's like a combination of like someone like it's a good service to be able to sue someone if you needed to however it's

abused up the yin yang and there's like professional lawyers that have billboards everywhere but do you think katie perry was worried about being sued no i'm saying that i'm saying that the sensitivity issue like like why why we're so white uh american culture is so like pc at this point because there's a it kind of goes hand in hand it's like a sense of uh well i don't know i'm at a loss for words a little bit too soon but but, but I will say it's, it having that litigious fear-based kind of motivator or it causes people to want to correct things, like to course correct to, uh, to a form of something that works for everyone. To avoid being sued. To avoid, I mean, not directly, not directly.

But that thought process. Yeah. That mindset. Yeah. That mindset. I think that's because it's about like, okay, well, how can we make this we have to include everybody on this, which I believe in. Yeah, but absolutely. But, but I think it should be done out of a sense of empathy, you know, and not to say that, that, that, you know, people fighting for rights to have handicapped parking, like in the front of a building, like that's, that's just a great idea. But like, I'm just saying that the, what we, what you were kind of referring to that sensitivity come comes from that where someone's like afraid of doing something wrong and it just

starts feeding back and feeding back, feeding back. And then you get people so fearful of any choice that they're making. Cause I feel it, you know. Every time I walk into a grocery store, I'm like, this entire store could be reduced to 5% the volume that it is right now. And the amount of people in that store would have all the products they need. So the inundation of choice, choice, choice, choice, choice and fear of doing something wrong,

whether it's because I want it to look perfect or i want to look perfect or whatever it is that all mix that all together and it's a recipe for i think it's a factor for sure i think another factor though is that people get to complain and that people don't like when people are mad at them So when you have a giant group of people that can communicate instantaneously with anybody at any time, you're going to get more prevalence of complaining. It's the same percentage of people are complaining, but they weren't able to access everyone as they were to get to Katy Perry and bitch about her wearing braids. Right?

So in the past, like in the Bo Derek days days and Bo Derek wore braids in ten which is really bad before that was that was nobody was wearing those seen that not on that level I mean was that a thing in black culture back then the Bo Derek days what do you mean like braids yeah like those like cornrows I think since I think the slave days and slave days yeah but braids have also been in almost every culture. Right. Braids for sure. But those crazy cornrows like that.

Cornrows. When do you think those. That, that was, that, yeah, that was a direct reference, I think, to like. Good Lord, she was hot. Like Caribbean. She was spooky hot. Yeah, she was. She would ruin your life.

She was. She was next door. She was, yeah. She wouldn't get anything done if you were banging her. Dude. Very interesting. Because you would have to like keep an eye on her all the time. Where are you going? Stay put. door she was yeah she wouldn't get anything done if you were banging her very interesting because you would have to like keep an eye on her all the time where you going stay put i mean but at the same time if you learn to be completely confident next to someone like that i mean come on that's

like max good fucking luck yeah i know good luck i'm just saying you and i can't pull it off i mean you couldn't hold it all the time you couldn't hold it all the time. I I would I would have I would have problems you'd have to not want a fucker You'd have to like be married and happy and successful and not want a fucker And just like really just be comfortable being around her you think just because you'd want to have sex all the time Just the possibility the possibility that you could fuck someone that's that hot is always a problem for men. Especially back then. Yeah. I mean, I think the initial

making a move and all that stuff. I think, obviously, if you got used to someone and their personality, it starts to calibrate. She would make you a better person. You'd be a better person if you were around her. She could if she were great. she could if she had a great attitude She was a positive person right you just wanted to like you more or maybe not. Yeah, right, right

I don't know. I mean I've I've just said like I know what you're saying Yeah, like at the same time I take that as a personal challenge to be like, okay fine How can I do it? I can be confident around her. Set it up. I trust you. I trust me. Everything's going to be totally cool. I really think that this complaining thing is what's going on.

Nobody likes to have people mad at them. And that's why people get mad at people. That's why people get mad at people over nothing. They love to find someone who fucked up and get mad. We were talking about this yesterday. The Anthony Bourdain casual response that he had at the airport by TMZ that became this huge thing where they said, if you had to serve dinner to Kim Jong-un and Donald Trump, what would you serve? He goes, hemlock. And then he walks away, which is hilarious. That's awesome.

Perfect timing. That's beautiful. It's a one line. It's a joke, you fucks, right? Very well done. And then I was reading all the responses on TMZ about, you know, get the Secret Service on him. He's threatening POTUS. You know, like, oh, that's really where we – it's like they – if you are really offended by that, really offended by that, you are such a monumental pussy that you don't deserve to have an opinion on things. monumental pussy that you don't deserve to have an opinion on things.

Like if that really bothered you to your core, I can't believe he's threatening POTUS. Like you are such a fucking baby that you shouldn't be allowed to talk about things. Your opinion, it can't get in. It can't get in. You're not allowed. And there was hundreds of those people that were commenting on the TMZ thing. And I realized like this is just a consequence of people being able to communicate openly any sure so yeah because of that yeah you're getting So in the moment they're feeling yes, and you're getting so many people whose opinions just you don't care for you

Don't want to hear you don't appreciate or respect their intellect, and they're spouting out nonsense But if you're a person who has to hear that it hurts and they're spouting out nonsense. But if you're a person who has to hear that, it hurts. If you read something that someone's saying really mean shit about Katy Perry in her hair, this fucking bitch thinks she's going to appropriate black culture and this and that. Fuck you, ho. And she starts reading that.

The panic that sets in. Thinking that poor Katy Perry, there's bodyguards and fucking machine guns looking out the windows and Katy Perry is in Beverly Hills mansion. And all these girls are like, I'll fucking cut you, hoe. Oh, no. They're going to cut me. Oh, no. She's like a little water balloon walking around her Beverly Hills mansion with her soft, soft body. So worried. That's tough, man.

This fucking bitch thinks she can take our hair? Fuck you, bitch. Has she said that she's worried about that stuff. No, I'm just This is like drama well, yeah, it's fiction it's so funny I mean like for me I read almost I'm almost all Tweets like because there's not that many actually in mentions, right? Yeah, so you eat almost all the ones that come to you you should have never said that you fucked up son yeah yeah yeah yeah no i tell people i've told the people that before um i mean i'm not responding to all of them and i might not get everyone but

i'm just saying in general it's not that it's not that bad like it's like i can i can actually read through a lot and and it's it's always interesting. Like if someone brings up a point, sometimes they'll they'll attack at a really hostile angle. Like at first they'll be like, you know, you're not funny. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, whatever, whatever, whatever, whatever. And I'll be like, so I'll either do two things. I'll either like answer it in an interesting way that kind of addresses their point or or I i'll be like okay why do you feel this way and then talk about it and through a few exchanges and oftentimes at the end of it someone's like oh thanks for taking the time i'll be like oh yeah and no problem i just want i was just wondering

what you meant that's all i like i like criticism i don't mind criticism i'm not going to be like if i had a shitty show and someone was like yeah yeah, it wasn't so great, I'd be like, you know what? You're right. It wasn't that great. Which I love. I love having that dialogue and just being either open. Some things I don't answer, but most things, if it has a good point, I'll go for it. Yeah.

I mean, the ability to communicate with people has its pros and cons for sure. Absolutely. And there's a lot of pros. You've got to be able to, you know, you've got to moderate yourself and you've got to create some filters and understand how to just process something very quickly and just be like, is this worth energy or not? Yeah. Okay. No energy. But when you're someone like Katy Perry, too, you're riding on this wave of popularity.

I mean, it's not to say that she's not talented she she certainly is a talented singer and performer but a big part of who she is relies on her attractiveness and her cultural relevance like how famous she is right now I mean she's a part she's not like we're not talking about like uh you know Liz Phair or Cat Power or someone who's just only doing their shit. Yeah, someone who's only doing their shit and you either like it or you don't like it. No, she's a rocket ship. Yeah, she's a pop star through culture. What are you doing?

What are you showing me here? 100 million followers. 104 million followers on Twitter. I'd like you to do a Twitter audit on that, because I'm not buying 104. I'll buy 85. The David Bowie image is pretty good. Yeah, I know, right? I guess that was probably in

cultural appropriation. That's what that was. She's got mostly real. No, mostly fake. Wow. 58 million fake. Katy Perry, you fucking hoe I Don't mean that Katie Katie. I'm joking around I don't get mad You know we could sit on a couch together with no shoes on yeah, and we'll work through this

But yeah, your counts fake off to wear after our booties though Oh, yeah, you know where I'll make everybody uncomfortable and where was five finger vibrams Oh, please never do that Where am I never do it 43? Real get some fake toes for the front of it Snap on toes. What did you say even 43 million real ones is a fucking no no it's not a lot of course if you would Have said 44 I would have been like absolutely but 43 fuck that listen. Yeah, I just might not even be her fault It might be that she's so famous she attracts fake bots and accounts.

It's entirely possible. That's all me. Just joking around. But there was a thing recently about Donald Trump's Twitter followers went up by 30 million or some crazy shit. Wasn't it something like that? Like real quick? And people are like, those are all bots. Absolutely.

Absolutely. It's all artificial inflation. Well, it's like the king has no clothes. absolutely absolutely it's all artificial inflation well it's like the king has no clothes but well you know uh the the thing before that the what you were saying about um pop star like you know on how you look and in your relevance that's absolutely true and that's the thing i always feel for in a way i feel for people that base their careers on that because there's a way you can always transition for sure rough like you could do it but but when you're someone like Joni Mitchell you

know who both was very striking but but obviously involved in the music that she made she was responsible for what she was making and you knew that it was her her whereas a pop star is like I don't know they're using Stargate from Sweden they're using the writing team they're using Stargate from Sweden. They're using the writing team. They're using a writing team from Australia. They're using like whatever. You never know who's involved. And sometimes maybe she writes her thing because I know that she was.

She plays guitar and writes original music. Well, that's the thing about what's the skinny chick? Back in the day. Taylor Swift. The thing that people enjoy about the skinny chick. Sorry, Taylor. The thing that people really enjoy about Taylor chick. Sorry, Taylor. The thing that people really enjoy about Taylor Swift is that

she is a songwriter. She writes her, she composes her own stuff. There's a vast majority that is getting angry at ex-boyfriends, but that's her prerogative. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's a young gal. She's very sensitive. And that happened to her. Don't break her heart, bitch. She'll write a song about you. Yeah. Or someone

just might might just because they want that they value that over the relationships yeah they were just going for that just get trying to get that uh kardashian thing going on oh yeah trying to get a little fame off that song just throw some bad dick away get her angry enough to put pen to paper hey it's a strat she'll fuck you up with a song though though, dude. She comes hard. Don't let it happen. She throws haymakers. Is that about John Mayer? I mean, Joni Mitchell did that, right?

Sure. A lot of people. No, no, Carly Simon. Carly Simon, yeah. You're so vain. You probably think this song is about you. You're so vain. You're so vain.

You think this song is about you. Don't you? Don't you? Oh, man, come on. You walked is about you. Don't you? Don't you? Come on. You walked into the party like you were walking into a yacht. That's amazing. Amazing.

That's a girl that's mad she's not getting that good dick anymore. Angry he's got other choices. Angry he's decided to just live his life as a sexual vagabond you can't just accept him for the freak that he is just let him just wander through the world it's okay like you had a brief time with him but no people when they fuck they want to own they own each other you know or he might have been vain well you know he might have just been he might have just been a liar oh yeah or might have been vain. Well, you know, he might have just been, he might have just been a liar.

Ooh. Yeah. Or it might have been annoying. Cause then, cause then it's like, well, it's not really about that a lot. You know, it's like a, what was the thing that happened with Kevin Hart recently where he just got, he just got in, he just got in front of it. Like there was a woman that he ended up, um, getting together with one night in Las Vegas. And, but, uh, it was like kind of a team,

like kind of catfish a little bit to like they got a tape of him or something like that. And this is me just hearing it from other people. So this is how informed I am. But I will say the point is they tried to extort him, but he just immediately told his wife and told everybody. It's just like, yeah, I fucked up. And she's like, hey man, as long as he comes back to me, you know.

I mean, I'm totally paraphrasing everything. I see what you're saying. But for her, it's like he didn't lie. How fascinating is it that there's people that would, like, target him as, like, an opportunity? He's sort of wholesome in a way, but also funny, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah what's so funny they're going after like they're going after nba players and athletes and nfl players

just like that too targeting them and like looking at their instagram account know where they're going to be yeah so they just treat it as like a business proposition yeah yeah it's like ransomware but it's the human version hilarious it's a weird time weird time it is a weird time for stuff like that you know it's a weird time for just just the interaction that we all have with each other it's just very strange it's like it's all like the possibilities of where this would go it used to seem like i kind of saw how the world was gonna go like i remember like being a kid and being worried about the war with Russia. Remember that, right?

Do you remember like always being worried? That felt good. That was a good kind of fear. Yeah. Felt good. It was nostalgic. It's nostalgic now. But once that sort of dissolved, I felt like I kind of had a sense, at least in some rough

form of what the future was going to be like. Things are going to get better. People are going to get smarter. Life is going to advance. And then all of a sudden the internet came along. And then any ideas that I had had about what the future was going to be like were now like, huh, well, fucking who knows? And it kept getting more who knows and more who knows.

And the who knows that I'm at right now is just like, fuck, man, where is this going? I really think it's going to some weird virtual reality thing that people are going like i really think it's going to some weird virtual reality thing that people are going to plug into and it's going to be better than live well yeah i mean it's you know it's we're designing a better interface for it all the time yeah but right now we're limited to like little glowing rectangles we are but the kids that are super into video games they're essentially experiencing it right now just in a a weird you know they're like right in front of the screen like playing games that's what i'm doing do you do that all the time yeah

i did dude i had an issue for a few years with quake playing online there you go which is really fun multiplayer but i i shy away from computer games now because of that too immersive too addictive for me yeah man i'm not it's not man. I'm not good at not doing things I enjoy constantly. Well, my thing is, for me, it's kind of like short stories. So, like binge watching. I'll choose the easiest setting. Oh, so you're playing a video game, though, where you're not interacting with other people online. Yeah, I'm playing by myself.

Okay. Or co-op. My thing is, I think games, this is something. Or co-op. My thing is, like, I think games, this is something you're talking about, like, where is it going, you know? I think what will help, and what I think people really dig, is I think people are going to get tired

of these first-person shooters. Like, it's always, like, shooter, shoot, shoot, shoot, shoot, shoot, explode, explode, shoot. I don't mind necessarily doing that. I like it when it's more cartoony. That's why I'm a fan of Borderlands It's kind of like this cool like

Cell shaded kind of looks like you're playing comic book puzzle solving and stuff No, it's a first-person shooter with lots of guns lots of explosions, but everything is like cartoony and Mad Max II So it's but not like crazy cartoony like just like comic book cart right right so so there's like this cool Joyfulness to it got a video that I love to see what that looks like check out some Borderlands 2 crazy cartoony like just like comic book cartoon right right so so there's like this cool joyfulness to it you got a video of that i'd love to see what that looks like check out some borderlands too i've seen uh picture ads i think yeah it's the mall when you walk by the video game store yeah you'd see it it kind of looks like a mad max thing like there's always like some guy with a gun he's got his fingers to his head like he's blowing his brains out and then there's like some graphic like

there you go oh yeah and the dude's wearing a gas mask. See if you can find a video. Yeah. See what this looks like. It's a really fun game, and you can play co-op. How often do you play this sucker? I mean, I don't...

I'm playing Divinity 2 right now. Dude, you're an addict, huh? I like it. Well, not that. Look at this. This is dope. Is this what it looks like when you're playing it?

There's someone playing it right now. This is someone playing it right now? This is someone playing it right now? This is live? It's the top thing that popped on Google. It's someone on Twitch playing. Oh, so we're watching someone live on Twitch play. Okay, here's the question. I don't know what he's doing.

Why is it so compelling? And it is compelling. But why is it so compelling watching people play games? It's hard to explain. I think it's because it's like a movie, but it simulates real-time action from the first-person point of view. And so it's kind of exciting. It's like, did you ever see Hardcore Henry? No, I did not.

That movie is shot all first-person? Yeah, I heard it was awesome. It's amazing. It's some of the best fight stunt work I've ever seen. The choreography is insane. This is super compelling. I feel like my 7-year-old now, if I take my seven-year-old to a restaurant

and the TV's on, they stare at the TV. Little kids stare at TV. I feel like that. You're talking about hardcore, and I'm like, yeah, probably pretty cool. But meanwhile, I'm just staring at this fucking video game. Well, this is also a weird level. This is some weird extra thing.

This isn't the game. Because the game looks even more desert-y, cartoony this is like some like bonus well whatever it is it's fucking awesome oh yeah it's like use that one like sanctuary jamie these are all people playing on twitch yeah jesus this isn't i was gonna i was hoping you were gonna go to talk about this game this is a new game that's gotten really popular right player player unknowns battlegrounds popular using twitch really so yeah This is a battle royale game sort of like the hunger games if you've seen that it's sick nine tips for combat supply So like what can you survival what what can you use you could use a gun or yes? So you drop a hundred players drop into a map yeah, it's an island. Yeah, about five square miles

Order encroaches over time and it's a circle comes in and starts killing you as you come in. Yeah it's a kill zone that slowly starts moving in. All of the guns and anything you find in the map is randomly placed around the map so you're starting everyone starts to scratch with just a fist and your goal is to survive or play hide and seek so either you become the badass that kills everyone or you get jacked or you just hide. You just survive to the end. But meanwhile, people are watching this on Twitch also.

But it's compelling. It's the most popular thing to watch on there, too. That's amazing. It makes sense, though, because you're seeing all these people. It's like watching a gladiator match. Yeah, but hold on. If they're watching it on Twitch, can someone have a chat in the other screen where the person who's playing can read the chat and read where people are? I've been doing that recently.

They can talk to me while I'm playing they give me tips sometimes i'll miss something like i'll skip a scope and like hey you missed the scope or you missed that awesome gun go back and get it right but my question is is it possible for them to also be monitoring the other people on the game and tell you where those people are it's not that's called stream sniping and that's a cheating thing that's sort of being handled right now. How's this being handled? You can delay your stream a little bit. You can hide different things that give away your location on the map. Interesting.

Like it's a setting that you can have. I think that's just a problem with people being able to chat with each other. A little bit. So Mighty Mouse is actually doing this too, and he did a custom game with all of his fans, and 100 people that were just watching him. I jumped into, we're all playing and, uh,

rampage does this too. And you'll just, people end up going to attack them cause they want to be the guy that killed mighty mouse in the game or whatever it is. But like, they're just watching his, I want to be the one to kill. That's amazing.

He's going to, yeah. But the thing that I like, I like co-op games. So I like fighting AI with other humans. Like, you know, like, like people either like that are, they're coming because what I discovered when I like co-op games. So I like fighting AI with other humans. Like, you know, like people either, like, that are coming. Because what I discovered when I was playing, what is it called?

The game with the mechs. The mechs? The new one? Yeah, new one. What is mechs? Mechs are robot suits, exoskeletons. Oh, okay. But more like walking tanks. Yeah, that's crazy.

It's like a hugely popular game, but I was playing it and it's one of those like massive multiplayer games. And like every time it starts, like there's all these people running around and you don't know anybody. You might, you might, but I didn't. And I would just get killed within milliseconds. Did you ever play Unreal? Did you ever play Unreal? No,'t fun. Did you ever play Unreal?

No, no. Unreal Tournament? Yeah, Unreal and Unreal Tournament. That was another one that kind of like came after the Quake. And they had all these crazy cool weapons and amazing graphics. That's what these all are. They're all that. It's like massive weapon systems.

You're switching weapons constantly. You can craft weapons. You weapons constantly you can craft weapons you can get you can collect ingredients to craft weapons like divinity 2 is an interesting oh titanfall titanfall oh yeah it's a huge game right yeah it's massive in there it's it's gorgeous i love mech suits like who doesn't like being like were you talking about being the hulk yeah this is what you get to be like this massive this massive machine. This is awesome. It's really cool, but I was just, like, so bad at it. I was just constantly getting killed.

These fucking kids today. And it wasn't fun. They're too good at games. And I was like, this is cool. You know, it's cool to imagine, you know, yourself in these, like, situations. It's cool. But I also like playing cooperatively. So if I was doing this playing with other players and

I had a team. I guess that would be something I would try Being on a team against other human beings just so fucking much time You have to take out of your life to play these well Here's here's the thing that you might get into warehouse scale our RPG VR VR RPGs Oh, I've heard of that. Yeah, I've heard they're they're trying to set up Wasn't it wasn't there a place that was doing a virtual reality in Utah? Wasn't it like in Utah? Oh, you think it's Salt Lake City the boy? Yeah, yeah, they're setting up a whole like environment. Yeah, they have one set up. Yeah. Yeah, it's great They did the Ghostbusters thing at Madame Tussauds Wax Museum in New York for the Ghostbusters.

Yeah. The future of virtual reality. Yeah. Time magazine. It's crazy. Like you wear a backpack. It's a backpack computer, so you're wireless. And then they have custom goggles that they fit on you.

Look at this shit. And all of this is mapped in an environment. So you're holding the guns. You look down. You see the gun. The gun moves when you move it. So these people are walking through some environment. This is insane.

So it's mapped. So this is what you're seeing in the reality. And so certain things, you know, it depends on how one-to-one. I hope that in the future with real-time data capture, with cloud capture, you'll be able to pick up objects. Like, it'll actually be able to track a teddy bear, and you reach out, and the teddy bear's there. It's lined up well, so you naturalistically grab it. You squeeze it, and in real time, the system is reading it, so it's actually puppeting all the objects in the room. So, yeah, and then the floor rumbles.

There's steam that comes out, you know, kind of like a ride, but you are, the visual component you're hijacked. So right now it's just Ghostbusters? Is that what it is? Ghostbusters and The Void. The Void is, I think it's public. I think you can go there. Yeah, so The Void, but there's a place that's opening up hopefully in Los Angeles, which is totally right for it because there's a huge VR community here.

Really? That's Santa Monica. Oh, really? Yeah. There's at least five major players in Santa Monica area. Major players? What do you mean by major players? Like people, humans?

Like daytime players? Like Weaver. Like they have stars They have they have titles that they're working on and they have they have experiences You know what some people call simulations experiences interactive experiences Or just like puzzles or whatever like this people innovating for VR So their company their production companies that make videos, they think in code, they, uh, or they code, they create software or they're just really good at capturing. There's like, you know, eight eye, which does like spherical capture, um, or, um, or volumetric capture is called.

Yeah. So there's a lot, a lot of people here. So the technology is here and it's always being innovated. But at warehouse scale is the perfect marriage for people, especially in L.A., who like to be active and might feel weird about sitting down in a chair and just staring at a screen with a controller in their hand. But they can understand naturalistic movement. Right, right, right. And in warehouse scale, you can actually see the size of the room and feel the breadth of the space. So in that particular video, it seemed like they had chairs and tables and everything like that,

but the actual textures on those chairs, that was all added later. Yes. So the objects were real, but they looked way different. Some of the objects, yeah. Like the major obstacles are there. Yeah, the table. The chair was crazy because they have a chair in the video game that was it seemed to me to be very different like the

brick wall totally that's what i mean it's not it's not one-to-one it's just like it's just a basic representation but i'm saying in the future you'll actually be able to just have like a movie set yeah and the system will be able to it will already have a preloaded, pre-scanned, sized version of that room. But then there'll be sensors that are real-time calibrating it to make sure that it's rock solid. So when you reach out, you're like, oh, I don't feel like I had to move my hand a little higher to grab this. Right, you can just reach out and it's right there. Yeah, it's a one-for-one representation. Do you think that the chair is bolted to the ground?

Wow, look at these people all walking through there. Where is this? Are they doing that? This was called VRcade. this might have been a yeah vr demonstration and yeah this is fucking insane if this is the future man it's gonna be really really weird i know i mean it's gonna be so weird i mean imagine like if the mapping becomes so like rock solid that you could reliably run up a flight of stairs. Oh, my God.

That's so crazy. I mean, that sounds like a, ooh, whatever. But it's not. And then once it becomes wireless. I mean, remember when the only way to get to the internet was to have an Ethernet cable connected to your device. Now that's silly. I don't have an Ethernet cable anywhere. I don't even know where to get one. only the only problem with vr is that the processing power so

for a while it had to be tethered to a pc now they have pc backpacks well now i guarantee you what they're going to have is uh like one of those you know you get one of those five charge battery packs for a phone where you recharge it five times they're gonna get one of those bitches it's gonna hook up to your phone and everything's going to take place. All the processing is going to be on your phone. You're going to have a Bluetooth headset and you're going to be able to go out into a park and do this. Yeah.

It'll be like Bluetooth five, 15.0. Yeah. Like you and your friends, you'll just have to walk across the park. Like you remember when you first got an iPhone and you had to do the fingerprint a bunch of times. Yeah. Like in all sorts of different ways, the side and the front and the back. That's what you had to do the fingerprint a bunch of times in all sorts of different ways. The side and the front and the back. That's what you'll have to do.

You're like, okay, define your parameters. Here we're out in the park and everybody will walk through the park together and crisscross and then once the computer has enough data, they go, okay, processing. The game begins in 10, 9, 8, and then you're in Avatar World.

That's the thing it's like you know uh you know you have augmented reality and virtual reality augmented reality is interesting with microsoft's hololens uses this real time um like basically can see the environment around it by mapping it so it stereoscopically maps it and it creates a really quick texture map of the environment that you're in. So imagine that mixed with like the idea behind, I forget the name of the project, but it was my early Microsoft project where it took, it's basically scraped all relevant types of photos and like stitch them together and created virtual 3D environments of locations based on photographs that are everywhere on the Internet. So it could recreate a plaza in Italy. And then using like kind of interpolation, like the AI software,

kind of stitching it together, blah, blah, blah. So imagine that existing already just because people are passing by with their phones, they're taking pictures, they're taking videos. So all of that data is now present according to the location that you're at mixed with headsets that are able to scan in real time collectively that also gets processed and stitched together, cross-referenced together,

so that instantaneously you can have a mapped, almost one-for-one game zone in a giant park. Like, pretty quick. And just like how you described it, but like using things that are in the headset that are tracking in real time and then transmitting, or that are completely internal to the headset, and then also networked intelligence, too, simultaneously. And then also probably some fake stuff that they can create visually and with 3D sound. Totally. Where you can see, like, you know, if you're doing an Avatar game, you can see the dragons flying overhead.

You're like, Jesus. Well, that's, the HoloLens does that. It's got these two little slits. They're not not even like regular speakers they're slits that are above your ears that are pointed down it's like uh almost like hypersonic sound you know like sound that can be basically paper thin so if i move the axis you can't hear it and then if i move it back on axis and you haven't moved your head you'll hear it specifically in one tiny thin slice of audio and so it has to be very precise. So it's a form of that, but they're just pointing down

and they can simulate Dolby 5.1 binaurally, which is insane. Think about how crazy your earplugs are, right? Look at this little tiny-ass speaker. This little tiny-ass speaker, when it's in your ear, I mean, it can get too loud like if I listen to music sometimes it can get too loud with these things and I gotta get you better headphones these are great they're they're good what's wrong with them they're the ones that come with the iPhone yeah they're they're okay they're just they have a lot of high-end which is not good

for your hearing oh not good for your hearing yeah I like things that are soft on my ears, but I can hear clearly. It's about precision. Does this fuck your ears up? I would say like Shure's are really good. It depends on what you're using for. I have Shure's. I think the ear pods actually sound really fucking great. Yeah?

So I like the ear pods. They're better. I like them better than the headphones that come standard. Anytime headphones are included, they're okay, but they're not great. I mean, on an Apple standard, better than most. The earpods are more precise. The earpods just sound natural. I'm really surprised.

I'm prepared for them not to sound good almost every time I use them. But they sound great because they don't seal the ear. They sit in the ear, but the design is so ingenious that even when I'm working out, I'm like, I'm like on the bench, getting up, jumping around.

They're still not falling out and they sound great. The bass sounds all natural. And then I'll put in like a high end pair. I have like a crazy amount of headphones and I'll, I'll put in some like crazy headphones, like some oddies, whatever planner, magnetic bullshits,

like little tiny ones that don't require much power. A phone would power it fine. But I put those in and I'm like, Oh wow, that sounds really small. Like I have to adjust to its detail. Whereas the iPods, like as soon as I put them in,

I'm like, Oh, that's just sounds like a nice, perfect frequency curve. It feels very flat and real. Wow. That's a strong endorsement pretty good yeah i'm i'm really i'm really i was like very impressed with them i bought them and i never

opened the box really yeah i gotta say they're easy to pair man and it's cool because i just have them in my jeans all the time oh right a little easier to handle than this wire yeah that wire gets fucked up yeah you just like i just pull it out and it's so fun because the way it snaps closed and open magnetically is so satisfying. How long does the battery life last on those suckers? I think it's eight hours. Really? I think with the case. The charge case recharges twice.

Young James got it right there. Yeah. They pair with the Apple Watch, too, so you can leave your phone at home. I have the new Apple Watch. Did you get the 3? LTE, yeah. Series 3, bruh. So what's the deal with the 3?

What's better? LTE. Now you can leave, brah. So what's the deal with the 3? What's better? LTE. Now, you can leave your phone at home and just take your watch? Yeah. Are you comfortable enough with your life to do that? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, if I'm going to a concert or something like that, like, you know.

Right. I mean, I think what's great about this, and when I saw people talking about, like, what do you think about the Apple Watch when they first announced it? There were so many people that were like, it's so stupid. You already have a phone. Why do you need a, you know, why does your watch need to be a phone? And they're saying all these things related to that. And I'm like, guys, you don't get it. It's about having to not manage a physical object. It's the watch is on your wrist. It just stays on your wrist the whole, the whole day. I mean, unless you take it off or whatever.

But most of the time, you just leave it on the whole day. And it's always there. You don't have to manage it. If you want to make a call, you make a call. If you want to take a call, you have your earpods. You can do a full call. You can listen to your music on it. How much power, battery-wise, does that thing have?

I think on LTE, what is it, like six, five hours? That's ridiculous. Something like that. What, do you live in a half a day? I haven't used itte what is it like six five hours that's ridiculous something like that what do you live in a half a day figure it out you fuck it's it's a rat get get it so that thing works better yeah that's like all lte but but realistically you're not going to be on lte all the time so depending on your usage it'll i think it'll last i mean is that five hours of talking i think of yeah lte like talking or something like that but i think for me i'm like around 67 74 every day really at the end of every day so i can go a couple days without charging it actually oh bold move though i know i like it though i like it

feel like a rebel i like pushing it man um no wireless pads are gonna be everywhere soon enough yeah i'm using it on my iPhone. Yeah. On that too. Or the watch rather. I just got the eight plus and just set it right on there. Plus, are you going to get the 10 as well?

Are you a hedonist? Yeah. You're a crazy person. I have like, I have like almost every top of the line phone. Cause I want to know Android. Cause I have an, I have a T-Mobile account and AT&T account.

So you want to learn Android. So you're fucking around with it. So I'm always like updating. I just want to know how the what's the UI philosophy? Like what do they think is interesting? Because they're too divergent but they're very similar. Very similar. I like to check

out like oh what's the difference? That's really frustrating that iPhone doesn't do that. That's frustrating that this doesn't do that. For me if it wasn't for AirDrop AirDrop's kind of keeping me on board. Yep. Like I realize how much I liked that once I tried the Google Pixel, which I really liked. Yeah, that's a great phone. It's a great phone.

And the Pixel 2 is supposed to be even better. But the Samsung Galaxy Note 8 might be the best phone in the world, they say. Yeah, I have the 8 Plus. It's very beautiful. The Note Plus? The 8. No, I'm not going to do the Note. Galaxy 8 Plus.

Yeah, Galaxy 8 Plus, yeah. But the Note is, you know, similar, same thing. Right. But it's got, obviously, the stylus. The pen, yeah. And there's a couple other features. I think the camera's the same. But it's just got a couple extra features,

so I just stick with the smaller. What do you think about it? 8 Plus. The 8 Plus? Yeah. I love it. The screen is gorgeous. Amazing, right?

It is so, it's, the colors are just insane. It's really beautiful. And once you have no bevel. Yeah. You look at it. Yeah. Is it bezel? Bezel.

Why did it say bevel? I thought you might have said bezel. That's like something you groove, right? Because it's soft enough of a V. I was like, he said bezel, but it just sounded weird. I almost slipped it through. I caught myself out on it. That's a good job, man.

But that's so much more beautiful than seeing that edge. That edge is like the obvious edge of the bottom of the iPhone where your fingerprint scanner goes and the top of the iPhone where the speaker is. The chin. It looks clunky. Yeah, it's totally clunky. And it's the next step before augmented reality glasses

so that your phone are your glasses. When I look at the Note 8, Red Band has the Note 8, it looks like Minority Report. I'm looking at this, I'm like, wow. That's the whole screen. Yeah, you're holding the screen. It's all screen. This is like the future.

It's pretty rad. Yeah. It legitimately feels to me like a big step up from a regular phone. I look at that and I'm like okay that's this is obviously next level yeah i i got the essential phone too just to see what that display was like to kind of get a preview for the iphone 10 the iphone 10 is going to be insane it's that's going to blow it all it looks it looks it's it's great i mean i will say that their product design has been like there was like a period where i'm like yeah like what just kind of like their last few iterations of computer

i mean i always get the new i get the new everything from Apple pretty much. And then just either sell or like find like someone who needs a computer or whatever and just give it to them. But so I cycled through a lot of technology. And just for a while, you know, the laptops were, they were cool. They were like some nice improvements. I mean, I like the, you know, the MacBook Pro design is like pretty like pretty cool i like the strip i thought it was going to be a gimmick the strip the strip becomes an issue with me because i have fat fingers and sometimes i hit siri accidentally oh yeah i just i disable siri i did for for the for the laptop no but i did too but

it doesn't matter when i accidentally hit the button really it says siri's disabled assholes see that's what i'm talking about. But that's me. But it shouldn't be there. It's also Apple. I mean, it's right there. It's right there where the fucking delete key is. If your finger slips and goes up there, it just falls in there. Boom.

Would you like to enable Siri? No, you bitch. See, it's saying it right now. I don't like it. No, cancel. Nope. Just learn. You know what I mean?

Just learn. I want my technology to learn better. It's not learning very well. The thing about being able to switch windows on the bar is kind of interesting, but quite honestly, I never use it either. Never use it. I would prefer mechanical buttons for sound, too. I agree with that.

It's way faster. Yeah. It's way faster to just reach instead of... You have to press it once, and then you have to press it again, and then you have to adjust the sound. Yeah. Why don't I have just a plus and a minus like normal? I know.

There's probably a keyboard combo you can use. I think it's Command-Apple or Plus. The only other complaint that I would have is I really like a tactile, mechanical-feeling keyboard when I write in particular. A bigger key throw? Yeah. I like this one because I like this new MacBook Pro better than the last MacBook Pro. Because the last one was kind of mushy a little bit. Yeah.

And this one is more like it seems like real positive feedback when it clicks in. But what I really like is the Lenovo ThinkPads. They have this amazing keyboard that works. Like you feel where the keys are. It's like I type faster with it it just feels like my fingers yeah my fingers just can communicate with it better yeah these are like flat they're like flat rectangles they're not very high off the ground either no so because of the fact they're not very high off of the rest of the keyboard you're not sure what you're

touching sometimes especially if you have calluses i guess and if you have sensitive fingers yeah i guess so you have to just understand the spacing, and if you have sensitive fingers. Yeah, I get that. So you have to just understand the spacing of it, but it's almost like they're preparing you for typing on a glass screen the same way you type on your iPhone. Right. And see, I'm not a big fan of that. I think we should be able to speak to our computers. Yeah, I mean, and they go, oh, you can just get a keyboard and you attach to it.

Okay, I don't want that. I wanted this. This is the whole thing for a laptop in the first place. Why not just sell me a screen and a keyboard? Yeah, totally. The fuck you doing? I know. Do you have an Echo or any of those things?

Yeah, I got an Echo. I've never set it up. Don't use it. Someone gave it to me as a gift. I get it. Just sitting there and I go, hmm. I totally get that. But I will say, I use it for my lights in my house, which is really nice.

So as I'm going to bed, I'll just be like, computer, turn lights off. Can you change the way you talk to it? Can you say, shut the lights off, bitch? No, I wish. See, it needs to do that. We need to be able to do that. But it's going to get there. Don't worry.

It's coming. Bitch, dim these lights. And then you can set it up. No, but I'm just saying, you can speak to it super fast. Oh, really? I can say, I'm in the living room and I want the lights off and I'll just say Computer computer turn the living room lights off and just walk away and it gets it. It's like immediately on It's like it hears that that prompt. It's on I'm saying the sentence naturalistically. I'm not saying hey Siri

How many times have I gone to the bathroom today? You've gone, I'm sorry. I don't know the answer to that. Whatever it is. It's like, it's that long. It's that long. Why would I use, by the, there's just no, there's no reason for me to use something that takes that fucking long to process.

It's faster to do voice dictation in in a google app right that you're gonna get so it's but that's a combo it's like why is the voice better in the google apps they're just better it is better it's their algorithms are better like the artificial intelligence is a little bit better note keeping and stuff as well yeah i mean there's you can do a little bit more with google assistant than you can with siri also i like the name i don't i hate it when they name ai's thing like cortana for for microsoft i'm like i don't fucking i don't want to cortana why i mean i get it i like cortana she's great i love halo however i don't need a personality i want it to be a computer and i want

to just do what i'd like it to do i don don't need to hear like, okay, you know, the sunlight today is really beautiful, but I'd watch out where some sunscreen, unless I wanted that. I want that option, but I also want it to be neutral. Right. So over time I want an AI to learn what I dig and just kind of do that. Yeah. There should be an option for whether or not you want it to behave like a corny human. Yes.

I know. Some people, I mean, I get it. You want something like that. You want like a little friend or something. I get it. I'd do that. I'd have like a couple different versions of it. You know, if I'm in work mode, I change it to like computer voice.

If I'm just like chilling, having a good time with friends, I change it to, hey, party person voice. Hey, all right. That sounds like a great idea hey play some miles davis you know what i was just thinking of that here's some miles davis sounds like a great choice yeah that's great man what else you got yeah like maybe if you get like john lee hooker's voice yeah that'd be great talk to john lee hooker everywhere you go yeah you get like uh you get linguists and language experts and mimics to all sit down and create a program so it can actually do impersonations off of inputting audio so it could actually become that person.

Look what, Jane, we just pulled up. Lyrebird allows you to create a digital voice that sounds like you with only one minute of audio. That's awesome. That's insane. Remember that Photoshop for voice thing? Yeah. This is essentially that, and it's already available for, you can make your own. You just got to read the audio.

I love it. I wonder how good it is. It's very good. Is it? It's getting- What if you like fuck with it, though? That's what I want to use it for. If you have 40 minutes of your audio, they basically have you.

Demos of, I think it does Donald Trump's voice here oh my god no way United States is considering in addition to other options stopping all trade with any country doing business with North Korea that's fake you know that it's him you can tell it's synthesized

but you know that it's him sounds amazing though that's pretty great I will be meeting General Kelly, General Mattis, and other military leaders at the White House to discuss North Korea. The middle section was nice. The front and the back were not very good.

Well, I wonder if they're adding that reverberation, that weird... If it thinks that's part of the audio, like the quality of the audio. I wonder if they're doing that on purpose, because you're talking about the president. Can you do an audio version of the president and pretend like that?

You might get in real trouble because that audio could be used. If he never actually said that about not doing business with North Korea, if they didn't make an obviously fake version, see if you find another person. It's pretty terrible. I'm going to run to the restroom real quick.

Oh, go ahead. Oh, there's Barack Obama. Yeah, play me some Brock Obama I think they're taking tweets and putting that through it let's hear it thank you to all the first responders and people helping each other out

that's what we do as Americans but why does it sound so terrible the way they have it set up like if you and me did it today they have specific sentences that we would need to read to hit the syllables. And I think they're taking speeches and they probably tried to find the words as opposed to going directly into their computer program, which it was built for. The only issue, though, is it doesn't sound good. Those don't because they didn't actually have Obama reading specifically for them into their – they just took speeches probably and found the words that matched.

Right, but even if they took speeches, it sounds so much shittier than the actual speech itself. I'll try it again tonight. My friend who showed it to me said he did it himself and got really surprised that he just typed a sentence in and was like, holy shit, that sounds like me. They're going to be able to have people saying all kinds of crazy things. This is not the Adobe Photoshop when this is, I think, a small company. They're probably going to make people have feuds with people This is not the Adobe Photoshop when this is, I think, a small company.

They're probably going to make people have feuds with people. You know, saying, you hear what he said about you, man? You should listen to this. Pretty fucked up. And they're like, what? Well, fuck him. And then that guy says, fuck him and says some crazy shit about him. And the next thing you know.

Do the reality TV show editing trick where it's just set off camera and you show somebody's reaction to what they heard. And you can send that to your friend and be like, look, they're at you and then you start fights really easily that could be an app on your phone just like that app where you put a puppy dog nose on i mean how is it any different as soon as someone like gives the green light to put that on the apple store the google play store someone's going to figure out a way to use that to make weird copies of people. They do have ethics on Oh, there's ethics? Get the fuck out of here with your ethics. Shut up. Once you pee in the pool,

you're not extracting that stuff out and stop. They have samples they released at Public Awareness. Yeah. First, to raise public awareness to make people realize that technology exists by releasing audio samples from the digital voices of Donald Trump and Barack Obama. Second, we want to ensure that your digital voice is yours. We are the stewards of your voice, but you control its usage.

No one can use it without your explicit consent. Shut your hole. Shut your hole. That's like saying, I can hold my breath forever. Shut up. No, you can't. You can't control that. They have some wonky-ass website where they're trying to pretend like they can control the digital voice that gets printed using their app. Like, the fuck you can?

There's... Once you've made some technology like this, all your silly words that you're writing down, that doesn't mean anything. Are you going to violate all the laws, the known laws of technological progression with your disclaimer and release? That's not, yeah, it's not really possible because they can tell through analysis. I mean,

that sound that you're hearing, that shit, that's part of the synthesis. That's like, that's the computer, that's the best it can do right now. For now, for sure it's going to get better, and for sure they're not going to be able to control it. Once it's gotten to that stage, it's that crazy, I just think it's a matter of time before we have no idea what the fuck is real and what's not.

But at that point, why not just hire an Obama impersonator? Not as good. Because an Obama impersonator, even the best Obama impersonator, is just a facsimile. You know, there's such a difference. So you're saying that the computer has to, I mean, unless it's just audio being played back, it's still like simulating it. Oh, you mean like a physical?

Well, video, that'll be easy. Video, they've already done it with video. What do you want? Jimmy's screaming over there. At the very bottom of the site, they had this little disclaimer agreement regarding biometrics. So I clicked it. And right here, it's how we disclose biometric data. We may also disclose biometric data in the following circumstances.

Law enforcement agencies, including a warrant, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Wow. Oh, wow. So you basically, this is all CIA psyops, man. Yeah, man. The fucking same people keeping the man Heal at your neck keeping the man they want you to play with a fucking app man first. They got their fingerprints man You got your fingerprints off your phone then face data face data

They're collecting DNA from your screens when you turn your phone in Data is being stored on a third-party server, which is, I mean, it says it right there. Oh, we're fucked. All that data's gonna get scooped up by the Russians. The Russians are gonna have all these people talking shit. That's amazing. They're gonna have heads of industry talking shit about Donald Trump, threatening to kill him.

Donald Trump's gonna get crazy paranoid because he doesn't read. Yep. And next thing you know, there's a fucking nuclear war going on in the United States. Oh, my God. Donald Trump is bombing Bill Gates. Oh, my God. Donald Trump is bombing Bill Gates. Oh, my God.

Mark Zuckerberg is to fucking hire Mossad to protect him and his mansion because he feels that Donald Trump's trying to assassinate him because he wants to be president. Oh, my God. I'd vote for Zuckerberg. I don't know, man. Dude made Facebook. He wins. I don't know.

He didn't even make it, apparently. I didn't watch that movie where they say he stole it. No, that's what I'm saying. He might have stole Facebook. That's what I'm saying. You think he stole Facebook? I think he stole it a little, but not so much as someone who might be in a band, and they break up, and they make a song that was kind of based on some riffs that someone was doing.

It's like, well, it's hard. Did he steal it a little like Chris Rock's ex-wife steals money from him? How does she do that? By just going to court and stealing it. Oh, my God. Just publicly. Well, you know what they do when you get divorced. They're like, I want it all, you motherfucker.

Oh, I don't know. They're stealing your money. I heard. Half of Chris's act. Yeah. I mean, Eddie. Okay. Yeah.

Eddie Murphy would definitely talk about that a lot. Oh, yeah. Well, Eddie Murphy used to talk about it with Johnny Carson, remember? Oh, yeah. Because Johnny Carson had to give up like hundreds of millions of dollars to some chick he was briefly having sex with and marrying. Whoa. Whoa. Heavy.

I mean, not briefly, but not his entire life. Married to her or whatever. Not equaling that. Shouldn't tell a fucking single joke. It wasn't an even deal. But that's stealing, right? That's stealing. That's some stealing, too. So did he deal but that's stealing right so that's stealing some stealing too so did he steal in that way like johnny carson's wife stole i mean me i don't know

i i think i think that he just had he had an idea of what to do with it so and that's but i don't think that he's necessarily i mean i can be proven wrong at any moment but i don't think he's necessarily an innovator in any way i think he refined an idea that was pretty obvious. Right. MySpace had already existed, right? Yeah. Friendster. Yeah.

Who the fuck used Friendster? I did. Jamie was one of the top dogs. I love Friendster. Jamie had a Friendster t-shirt he wore everywhere. Go to Friendster now. It's so sad. It's the saddest.

It's, yeah, it's still there, but it's owned by someone else. Okay, is MySpace still there? MySpace still exists as well. I'm thinking of going back to MySpace. Man I don't know. There's got to be something else. I think I could bring it back. I think you could. I mean but why would you want to? Friendster living the game. I'm kidding.

Friendster living the game. Friendster is taking a break. The redesigned Friendster came about through enduring passion to make a difference over the years. What? Make a difference? Make a difference in your bank account? Ho. Yeah. Over the years. What? Make a difference? Make a difference in your bank account? Ho. Yeah.

Over the years, we have built a vibrant community and received valuable support and encouragement. However, due to the evolving landscape and our challenging industry, the online gaming community did not engage as much as we had hoped for. Profound development in the gaming industry has also led us to rethink our strategic priorities. We have thus

made the decision to take a break and pause our services effective June 14, 2015. That's not a break, kids. You quit. That's two years ago, you fucks. It's a quit. That's a hard quit. Two years in, you gotta say if you and your girlfriend are taking a break, it's been

two years, you're not taking a break anymore. No. Right? You guys haven't seen each other in two years? Yeah. It's over. I think that's pretty safe. It's over, friendster.

And then for the internet, I mean, multiply that times 10. Maybe someone's going to come out with a new one. A virtual reality or an augmented reality based one. Well, Alt Space almost happened. What is that? I was working with them a lot. virtual reality augmented reality based well alt space almost happened like what is that i was working with them a lot they were doing stand-up comedy in like uh it's a basically like a facebook of vr so social vr and uh that was really fun and they really helped out amazingly well they

were like the coolest they were really cool justin roiland and i hung out one night and we were like together in a graveyard with like 500 of their fans, and we just fucked around for an hour and 40 minutes. He was at his house with a small team of people making sure he was all good, and he had a motion capture suit or a motion sensor suit. And yeah, there it is. And that's me doing stand-up. So that's me. I'm moving that character.

That's crazy. Yeah, in my living room. Wow. Just like, hey, guys. I mean, that easily could take the place of touring. Yeah, in my living room. Wow. Just like, hey, guys. I mean, that easily could take the place of touring. Yeah, totally. If they had some place where you could interface and you could be on stage in front. And even if you could, how about this?

The people go to a place. The people actually go to a theater. And you just get live beamed into the theater. You don't have to be there. Well, they did that with some concerts, right? Like a live broadcast, like simulcast. Did they? In theaters.

Yeah, like Rolling Stones or something like that. But that's different than a hologram. No, no, that's different than like, yeah, immersive, like VR. They did that too. They had to do it with rapper Chief Keef. He was going to do an event and they were saying like he couldn't go because there's going to be riots and whatnot. So what they agreed to do was have him be a hologram.

Oh, yeah. They did that curved screen projection technology. There to do was have him be a hologram. Oh, yeah. They did that curved screen projection technology. There was still riots? There was still a problem with it, yeah. Because people don't like him? No, just he incites the crowds, I guess. I don't know. Oh, what a silly.

It's very lit when he performs. Yeah. He's a crazy fellow, right? He's a wild one, that Chief Keef. I've seen him on the Instagram. Yeah, he's a young, crazy rapper him on the Instagram. Yeah, he's a young, crazy rapper. Gotcha. Yeah, he's one of the

wild child. Yeah, very aggressively crazy ones. So they had him as a hologram on stage. Yeah, so there's real people at this show. Let me hear this. He's just there. Whoa, this is so strange. Yeah, they've been doing it in Japan for a while.

They have like pop stars, artificial intelligence. It seems like it has to stand in one place. Yeah, I think the hologram thing kind of... Sort of like the Will.i.am situation. Remember, you can't walk around the room, but you can talk to someone. Wow. That's so weird. The Japanese technology, they can walk, but it's like an obvious, curved, huge screen.

Can you imagine if you went somewhere to watch a hologram? You'd be so angry if the person isn't there. Yeah. Why can't you be there? I know. You know? Well, it'd be weird to go somewhere publicly and to watch a hologram. I feel like it's the future, though.

Unless it's someone who doesn't live anymore. Right. Like Tupac. Like when they did. They made Tupac way more jacked than he really is. Did you notice that? No. Yeah.

When they did the Tupac one, they had him like a CrossFit Tupac. Tupac was in insane shape. CrossFit Tupac. He really looked like Floyd Mayweather. Yeah, because he was a pretty wiry. Yeah, look at him. Look at him. Oh, no.

Yeah, come on, dude. No. He's Super Jack Tupac. That's a Tupac that's doing jujitsu five times a week. Right? That Tupac's got a six pack. He's got big muscles. Tupac was never that big.

Is that video footage? Yeah, this is from Coachella. Oh, but they made it holographic. It looks so fake. Oh, no, but I mean the footage. Did they generate it? Oh, they generated it. This is all hologram. Yeah, this is all CGI.

It's a body double. Was it a body double? I'm pretty sure. Oh, well, that's part of the problem. They used some body double who's jacked. They should have told that dude he's got to lay off the weights for a couple years if you want to play Tupac. I don't think they would have been able to track

his recorded performance from the 90s. This guy who they used as a body double, they got overzealous because he's way too big. I mean, he's like 20 pounds heavier, right? Am I exaggerating? I think he was wiry. Yeah, but this guy's not wiry. This guy's jacked.

This guy looks like an MMA fighter. He's built like Ty He was wiry. Yeah, but this guy's not wiry. This guy's jacked. Yeah, he's a little jacked. This guy looks like an MMA fighter. Yeah. He's built like Tyron Woodley almost. Side by side. They have a side by side? Yeah. He's Captain Jack. Yeah, he's...

Captain Jacked. He's built like George St. Pierre. Like, that's a good... That's a good comparison. Not quite Tyron Woodley levels, but pretty fucking jacked. You got a side by side? No, I don't. They don't have one?

Between the real Tupac and the fake Tupac? I just came up and said it wasn't actually a hologram, and I'm trying to see what they're saying, what that means. Was it CGI generated then? Special effects studio made it, yes. Expensive CGI. Yeah, see, that's what I was saying. So maybe they used a body double to track the movements,

and then they got overzealous when they went to give them six packs and pecs. Just like they may not use star Star Wars figurines are like all jacked. They're all a super muscular. Yeah, I was like what the fuck you Skywalker's jacked Yeah, really. It was like it was like late 90s Star Wars or something like that Yeah, it's like superhero bullshit But people wanted superhero bullshit back then like if you tried to put out a figurine of someone who wasn't jacked, people were used to superhero figurines. I know. It's just so dumb, though.

It's like I want something that looks like the thing. I don't want a fucking cheap. Because otherwise it looks cheap. It looks lazy. It's just lazy. Close here. There's what? Close to side by side.

Yeah, but that's not really. There's got to be one where he doesn't have his shirt up his shirt to show the thug life tattoo yeah you gotta get the whole yeah the guy that guy's way more jacked trust me oh there you go that's that's right there yeah see i mean come on just get the it's smaller way he's wire he looks like a lightweight boxer yeah yeah that's what he means in shape yeah he's definitely in shape he's not fat but he's not fat i mean come on that guy's super duper jacked yeah i don't know where they got those proportions from if you're gonna be that jacked like you really have to not eat anything that's bullshit

oh i know like you can't be fucking around at all not even slightly no it's just like all like straight protein super clean like just broccoli chicken breast egg whites no beers no no not one beer at all no no and like uh water no salt no salt no salt uh and in fact one day you'll probably fast or you'll like over water like by gallons and gallon gallon then not drink for two days probably take diuretics before you do this yeah diuretics yeah totally they made shit. Yeah, diuretics. Yeah, totally. If they made one of you, would you let them add a little bit of extra water weight,

or would you tell them to fucking slim you down? No, I'd say leave me the way I am. They already did. I'm in that EA video game. Like a real-life hologram. Really? Yeah. If they had that UFC fight in real life,

and we got to watch it, you'd be... I would say leave me the way the fuck I am, man. Don't make me look more muscular than I really am. It's more immersive. Yeah, in the EA video game, that's my actual body. They took fucking hundreds of pictures. They have you stand. They rotate around you with a camera.

They have this thing that spins around you and takes photos of you from all these different precise angles. You have to do all these different things with your body. You have to do things with your arms. You have to stand with your hands up. You have to extend your fists. Yeah're doing uh they're doing a combination volumetric capture and optical capture that's what i actually and so they skin you there you go they skin they put they basically skin the optical information mixed stitched with a little bit of cg yeah that's great you see that look that looks like a person that looks like a real person

that's that's what a person looks like I mean your face does look a little uncanny Valley. Yeah, but Just like video game character. They're about five years away from that not existing anymore Right five years away from just freaking you the fuck out. Yeah, like avatar did a great job Yeah, that CG was like I mean half of it was the actors face, right? But the rest of it, I mean half of it was the actors face right, but the rest of it I mean it looked very natural What's really cool is that really for a movie like avatars that they can have something that's not a real thing like what's really? Challenging. Oh, yeah, right do a CGI of a real thing like a

Yeah, Game of Thrones do it does it with wolves? Yeah, and they have to be real careful how they shoot it Oh, like I am legend with Will Smith. They did it with lions and it was kind of clunky. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But with the zombies in I Am Legend, it worked perfect because they're this thing that's not a real thing. Yeah, it's a fantasy creature. Yeah, you don't have a point of reference.

What is this, James? This is from Logan. They digitally did his face in almost all these action scenes because I don't know whether he didn't do it or not, but this little piece just came out. I don't know if it just came out this week. just saw it the other day it's a really cool little three minute piece about the digital doubles what it's called of uh Logan if somebody wants to watch

that I'll try to put it oh is that the stunt guy yeah this is the stunt guy and then they kind of show the break oh that that was the actual clip and they'll show you the breakdown now of how they like added wow each little piece to it to make what you saw from all the little camera angles. This is incredible. It's really cool. Oh, that's amazing. Whoa, so the dude just got a... God, that's insane.

And then this thing later here in a second will show you how all the cameras that they used to get his actual face. So this was CGI? Yeah. What? That scene. That whole scene was CGI. I didn't question it at all. So this was CGI? Yeah. What? That scene. That whole scene was CGI. I didn't question it at all. Most of these scenes were CGI.

I did not question any of that shit, man. Wow, that's incredible. That's incredible. Look at that. But you know what's fucked up? Even though it's CGI, they still made it as obvious as a real fight scene with actors and a stuntman. Yeah. The movement is real. But it looks very obvious that it's fake, is what I'm

saying. Oh, now it does? Yeah, to me. But in the movie, I didn't think of anything. No, no, no, that's not what I mean. I mean, it looks very obvious that it's a fake fight. Oh, it looks choreographed. Yeah, because you can't actually have the guy punch the guy. You can't actually have the guy shoot him first, you know, and he absorbs the bullet and keeps going and cuts the guy you can't actually have the guy shoot him first

You know and he absorbs the bullet and keeps going and cuts the guy's head off with his with his claws But they could have done something along those lines They choreographed it like they would choreograph like a fight scene in a six million dollar man episode Yeah, saying like I'm gonna punch you. Oh you stabbed me first. I'm gonna shoot you all you come right right right right Well, that's my thing with with like tactical scenes and fight scenes for me It's like it it can be you just have to balance the believability level So so if it's kind of cartoony acts like violence or whatever then make sure that the physics flow together really right? Yeah, like Captain America, Winter Soldier, one of my favorite of the Marvel movies,

just the fight scenes were incredible. They're really, really well done. Pretty badass. Pretty badass. Like when fucking Winter Soldier gets hit and he like slides backwards, you know, there's always that thing where a guy gets hit and he slides backwards

and the pavement gets torn up and he's like holding his stance. But the physics on it looked really good. So I was like, oh, that's great. hit and he slides backwards and the pavement gets torn up and he's like holding his stance but the physics on it looked really good like so i was like oh that's great and they were just paying attention all these like little subtle physics details and that's what makes me appreciate the fighting or like seeing gina carano uh fight like fake fight in movies she knows how to take a hit right so so when she gets hit she knows what it looks like when you get hit right but a certain way or certain angle or whatever and not saying that she's like the best best but

just as an example somebody actually does make contact or has had experience in that the the reactions are a little bit more believable and also they're probably more willing to let people get close closer i'm sure and also you don't feel like you're being treated like a fool exactly that's what i'm that's what i'm talking about because it's otherwise it's just like like you see the people waiting for the next hit like when you see those those fight scenes where people are standing around in a circle and one guy goes in and everyone else is waiting that would not work like that man no it's like no everybody's just gonna wait well that's the rules it's just one guy at a time okay now the next okay now you try it tony ah god he's really good okay walter yeah it has to be

some like that's one of the things that i found almost eerily impressive about john wick john wick is preposterous yet believable at the same time see See, that's what I'm saying. They balance that shit. So when you get it out, cause you see it as choreography, but it's so fucking tactically and imaginatively thought out and stylistically gorgeous. All the, all the ingredients go together. And you see in those, that footage of him,

you know, running three gun training or he's fucking rocking through those courses for real. He's using live rounds. And, and so when I see that movie, I'm like, oh shit, these guys know what the fuck they're doing. He's fucking rocking through those courses for real. He's using live rounds. And so when I see that movie, I'm like, oh, shit. These guys know what the fuck they're doing. They're not fucking around. They're like using special forces guys for training.

They're using a specialized team of martial artists to create a customized version of martial arts just for him. My friend Higin Machado did a lot of the jujitsu choreograph choreography for it that's who i was watching yeah and i love their whole fucking take on it and their approach it's artistry yes it's like that's what it is there was no like everything that he did would work yeah there was no jump up and kick two dudes in the head at the same time and shoot through a window and shoot a guy a mile away in the head yeah yeah no no no no it's like if you trained really well and that situation presented itself the way that it did you could do that yeah it's possible and but it was also very cartoony too totally yeah that's what that's what that was so great about it so it's like it's this perfect because the whole world was heightened you know like the whole hotel thing and assassins

having like you know creeds and accords so it's already in that world. Yeah, so you just need to create Efficiency you know all all it is is just like lethal efficiency With a with a kiss of artistry, and there's a uniformity in John wicks personality That is so so samurai that you believe that he could do all this and not be affected by killing all these people yeah I know I know what's like all the people he's killing are are players yeah they're all players in the game and they deserve it they killed his dog yeah they killed his dog and anybody who gets in the way not that it's their fault but if they decide to take him on then he just has to it's just professional yeah he's a professional even in his revenge he's perfect well except for the part where he shoots the dude in the hotel and gets excommunicated but other than that i mean he's i just love that character

so much i love the stunt driving and that's not cg that's him that's a 51 year old man fucking destroying it and i'm like you know what if anything even if you like that type of stuff or if you don't like that stuff just watch watch a scene, look at the artistry of the choreography. Think about how old he is now, hardy train, and then try to have someone who's sitting on a couch going, I can't lose. I can't lose a 30 pounds.

Right. Um, and without, I mean, I'm talking about someone who has no help. It's just them alone. Just going, I can't do,

it's like, man, anything is possible. Any, anything is possible. You just have to fucking do that shit yeah well i think that movie is like it's it's like a masterpiece of that genre yes like there's the there's a lot of those john woo style movies that are fun and everything like that well i think what

john wick movies did is they took that they boiled down the story to like there's no there's no ambiguity as to whether or not there's bad people and good people whether or not you should kill all these fucking people you just absolutely should kill them all and he's absolutely going to it's awesome yeah and it's okay yeah because it's a game yeah that's that's the whole thing about it that's what's so brilliant about it it's like it's a game but it allows stuntmen tactical expert forward movie making yeah because it's really that's what it is it's mostly that the stare the story kind of takes you Stuntman tactical expert forward movie making. Yeah.

Because it's really, that's what it is. It's mostly that. The story kind of takes you along in an interesting, but it's a pretty narrow pathway. It's like the apocalypse now of like, shoot them up. Tactical thrillers or tactical, whatever you call them. Whatever you would call those. It's like the masterpiece of those. You know, if you get a chance, check out this guy. Have you ever seen Strike Back? No. That's a Cinemax show. It's a show? Yeah, it's like the masterpiece of those you know if you get a chance check out this guy have you ever seen strike back no that's a cinemax show um it's a show yeah it's a series

i don't even know cinemax was real anymore i know there's too many networks i know skinemax people start i remember that back in the day they'd have those softcore i know b porn movies like holy shit you'd see a titty every now and then this is crazy they would lie down on the bed and the lady's leg her naked leg would drape around the man's body, so you knew what was going on. You're like, I can't believe this. I know. But then the physics would trick you up. You're like, okay, the way they're lying, his dick's nowhere near her.

It doesn't look right. How's he having sex with her? He's having sex with a cushion in front of her vagina. There's no way he's reaching her actual vagina. He's way too low. What is he doing? Totally. You know?

It's like the man was in the wrong spot. He's way too low. What is he doing? You know, it's like the man was, he was in the wrong spot. That's so crazy. Oh, she's like, you're doing it wrong. And the ADR is off. Just like,

uh, uh, uh, yeah. How does that feel? Amazing. Oh, that's great.

Yeah. Like just obviously someone in a studio adding sound later. There was whole genres about those. There was series of movies. Emmanuel. Do you remember those? Emmanuel goes to Paris. Emmanuel goes to Italy.

They were all like. Like Daniel Steele porn. No, because Daniel Steele, like it would be more for the ladies. Oh, you're right. You're right. I got you. Right. Like she was like this, uh, exotic traveling lady.

It would fuck these dudes in hotels and these movies. So corny. Oh, that's right. But you would be so excited. But it was soft core. Yeah. When I was like 16 and shit, we, you know, first got cable, you know, like, um, my parents were asleep.

They were asleep up there. Okay. Good. Yeah. Yeah. Tune into Showtime or Cinemax. Totally. I see Emanuel 4, Emanuel 3.

That's right. I do remember those. Oh, my God. Yeah, I was into that shit. Holy shit. Everybody was. When you're a little kid, you're like, I'm going to see some titty. I can't believe I'm going to see a naked lady.

And like some more shit. Yeah, you're like, I'm about to see some real adult stuff. Real shit. Let's see this lady. As long as you don't see genitals. We do not tolerate genitals. Yeah. Except for breasts.

Yeah, breasts are okay. Yeah, but that's not a genital. Yeah, you're right. It's not a genital. A man can have one and just walk around in public, like Ari Shaffir does. Oh, yeah. That's true. Like, who's Ari Shaffir?

You don't know Ari Shaffir? Stand-up comedian? Good friend of mine. Thinks he's more famous than he is, obviously. What is this? Oh, is this Emmanuelle? Oh, she's so hot. Emmanuelle 2. Oh, is this Emmanuelle? She's so hot. Emmanuelle 2.

She's getting acupuncture. She's getting acupuncture to be more hot. Oh, Jesus. She's really beautiful. She's undeniable. That 80s beauty. I love that severe 80s beauty. She's going to fuck the pool guy? Please fuck the pool guy. Why does she have a cobra in the lower left corner? it's probably someone's like channel that they're reposting

dude i remember these movies what is that she's looking out the window maybe there's some dick in that building that's so crazy maybe i should go to that building this building is tired she's look she's like pretending to be a geisha cultural appropriation yeah totally no no that's no that is that is that is someone performing a ritualistic dance of some sort you're that guy I had to like try to figure out

what was going on there she's mounting him mounting him and kissing his face that's crazy oh see see how they're having sex oh there we go

yeah there was that brief moment look they're nowhere near each other's vagina yeah it's just like the idea it's like theater sex well

it was the the beginnings yeah beginnings of figuring out the loophole between pornography and romantic movies. It's essentially almost no plot. They could write the plot like, oh, we're just going to get to Paris. We'll figure it out when we get there. This is what I want you to do. Look out the window. Where's Bob? Fucking Bob, get over here.

I'm horny. And Bob shows up in a yacht. Yeah. And enough story to make it look like, oh, is this a TV show? Yeah. Because it's a TV show. Bob gets off the boat. I can't believe you're here.

I didn't know you were coming. Yes. Let's go get a drink. Then they go into the next room. Next thing they know, they start making out. I missed you so much. I missed you too. I've made some mistakes.

I'm so sorry. Next thing you know. It's like, oh, I can't do this. It's like, why not? Just one night. It's just one night. Yeah. I'm so sorry. Next thing you know. It's like, oh, I can't do this. It's like, why not? Just one night. It's just one night. Yeah. All right.

Yeah. They smoke cigarettes in bed together. Yeah. Back then, everybody smoked. I never really got that. The cigarette after sex. I don't get it. Post-fuck thing for people who like to smoke.

Yeah. You don't get it because you don't like to smoke, right? I don't like to smoke. No, I don't like it. Have you ever smoked? No. Good for you. No. My parents did. Stupid hobby. I know. It's a tough one, man. Yeah. I get it because you don't like to smoke I don't like to smoke Have you ever smoked? No Good for you My parents did

Stupid hobby I know It's a tough one man I get it My mom quit cold turkey though Oh yeah? Like 13 years ago Good for her

She's 80 now Jesus Is she okay? Yeah How long has she smoked for? She's smoked like Probably since her like late teens See that's what every long term smoker

They hear that story they go as long as i just know when to jump off this ride i'm gonna be okay remember those bugs bunny movies where a plane was about to crash and right before the plane hit the ground bugs bunny would just hop off yes and the plane would crash and you'd be like fine yeah i love that that's what it is that's what your mom did that's what it is like i'm okay yeah and i'm 80 all right i'm done well that was fun that was it i mean know how many people die of cancer like from lung cancer like way quicker than that oh yeah my dad that's what my dad died from well he he had heart trouble first and then he had um like a bunch of heart surgeries um because he was like had like a high

salt he wasn't overweight he was thin so it's like one of those like thin fat type of situations so you have just a genetic issue i don't know what it was it was just like some kind of like build up because he was a smoker he was a heavy smoker he ate kind of heavy food salty whatever and um and it just added up and then it got he got heart problems then emphysema Then the emphysema turned to lung cancer. And then my mom, like last year, she discovered she only had like 18% functionality. Or no, like 13% functionality of her heart. And I just happened to be in Montana at the time because I don't have brothers or sisters.

And I just happened to be there with a friend of mine for Christmas. And it happened the day after Christmas. So she was like, I really don't have brothers and sisters and i just happen to be there with a friend of mine and for christmas and it happened the day after christmas so she was like i really don't feel well today i took her to the hospital they're like yeah you've like got barely any coronary functionality right now and so then they put in two uh two stents but a third of her heart is not functioning one of the aorta just doesn't work anymore pretty Pretty heavy. But a lot of it is from just like high fat, high salt smoking lifestyle. Yeah, you know, the thing is people used to think it was high fat. Did you read that thing in the New York Times about where that all came from? The reason why people think saturated fat is bad for you?

Yeah, well, I know that certain amounts of fats and certain fats are awesome for you and some are terrible. See, it all came from the New York Times. I mean, it all came from the sugar industry. The sugar industry bribed all these scientists. And they didn't even have to pay them much, man. Apparently, it was only like $50,000. They bribed these scientists to study, to report some bogus findings, pushing the blame away from sugar and onto saturated fat. Oh, I did hear something about that.

To this day, people think saturated fat is bad for you. There's something I tweeted earlier today that I was reading about saturated fat being able to... Even cholesterol. Cholesterol is the precursor. It's like what you need. It's a substrate for hormones. Sure, sure. No, absolutely.

But I'm just saying there's so much of it. There's so much fat. Yeah, but dietary cholesterol is not even it, man. Dietary cholesterol apparently doesn't even move your blood lipids. A lot of it's genetic. It has to do with whether or not you have high cholesterol. It has to do with your lifestyle, if you're sedentary, whether or not you eat a lot of sugar and carbs. So this is something that I posted earlier today.

When fat people, or rather when people eat saturated fat, the risk of stroke drops. If they're also avoiding refined carbohydrates, their triglycerides also come down. So what they're saying is that when people eat saturated fat in conjunction with eating a lot of refined carbohydrates, like white flour and sugar, it's not good for you at all. So that saturated fat is bad is the wrong culprit. Like saturated fat might be bad for you if you had refined carbohydrates because you're just fucking your whole system up. But if you can remove the refined carbohydrates,

saturated fat consumers have a lower risk of stroke, and their triglycerides come down too. You actually get healthier by eating saturated fat without carbohydrates. That totally makes sense. It does make sense. But this is all new shit, man. The way they separated it, it looks like they just kind of finally went like it's kind of true. It's only true in combination. Right.

It's only true in combination, but you extract the one that we know to be bad because there's many, many studies right now showing that low carbohydrate diets are beneficial for a bunch of different health benefits. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So when you take out these refined carbohydrates, it turns out the saturated fat is good for you. Haven't we known though for a while, I mean, carbs, like refined carbs are not good. I mean, I look at it like-

We did, but we didn't know how bad they were. Oh, yeah. I think we're realizing now more how bad they are and how important saturated fat and unsaturated fats are. And there's a lot of saturated fats, even for plant-based folks. You get a certain percentage of it from avocados. I think you can get a little bit of it from coconut oil, a certain percentage of it from coconut oil. I guess they're saying coconut oil is a little bit of a... That's bullshit.

That thing was widely criticized by scientists. Yeah, what was up with that? The American Heart Association wrote that. And all these scientists got together, and Onnit actually published an article about it where we sent, essentially, that American Heart Association is kind of whack. Oh, wow.

Their research is kind of shitty. Oh, that's too bad. They're behind the times. Well, it makes sense. Yeah, you have to be, the cutting edge of nutrition, this is why it's so confusing, is constantly revolving around the latest science. So if you're not using the latest science, you're not using the latest cutting edge of nutrition. So if you're talking about some shit that they discovered in the 1970s, there sure quite a bit of possibility that you might be wrong

and it's tainted yeah i mean that totally makes sense i mean that's something that i tend to i'm like fairly you know my thing is like i just try to eat like what would a diabetic do like that's a good that's a good starting place yeah and then the other thing is just like simplicity you know like uh for me chicken chicken breast, lean fish, snapper, brown rice, oatmeal, steamed broccoli, steamed kale, um, egg whites, egg white protein. But even egg whites, egg whites are not nearly as healthy for you as egg yolks. Egg yolks are actually better for you. Egg yolks have more protein in them. There's a, there's all sorts of vitamins that you get in egg yolks that you don't get from the whites. I guess I'm talking about the powder, you know, like the- Not more protein,

but a good percentage of the protein, I should say. And more cholesterol. Yeah, the cholesterol is really the thing. But for me, like J-Rob egg white protein, that stuff is so fucking crack. It's great. And it mixes really well. I don't think they could put the yolk in there. Have you ever used plant-based protein?

Like pea protein is really good. Hemp protein, if you get it from a good source. Yeah, I've used all of those things. I guess egg white is one of the most easily absorbed yeah so um and it's just kind of simple what i like about it is that it's simple and it just comes from an unrefined ish you know refined to get it to a powder right but that's what i would say the the issue is in the dehydration rehydration process it's so different than with hemp where you're essentially just getting the plant fiber, grinding it down to a fine powder, and then you eat it. So it's super easy to digest. It's almost like squeezed juice except for it's a dried plant versus a dehydrated liquid product.

Right. Like egg yolks are kind of liquidy, right? Yeah, yeah. I mean, yeah, I guess they are. They start that way. But if you cook them, or I mean, I guess you could have them raw. Well, you can if you know the source. Yeah, if you know the source.

People are apparently catching salmonella, though, from backyard chickens. Oh, yeah. Apparently that is an issue now. There's some farm, oh, yeah. Yeah, right. And there's like that huge movement. Yeah. Like an urban movement.

So people who do that. So they're closer together. be careful if you don't know what's going on. Don't eat it raw. Just because you've got it in your backyard does not necessarily mean it's 100% safe to eat raw. I made this. Yeah, no, my thing is I just eat pretty simply. Do you eat fish? Yeah. Yeah, what kind of, like fatty fish, like salmon is supposed to be the best for you?

I do like salmon. I like coho salmon, like, fatty fish, like salmon, supposed to be the best for you? I do like salmon. I like coho salmon, which is really good if you can. And then I like hamachi. Hamachi is just an amazing mackerel. I really dig. Mackerel's great. Snapper is really nice for, like, just, like, a nice lean piece of fish. Right.

Like, I just want a basic. Do you ever go fishing? You know, I used to in Montana. I grew up in Montana. I used to. Fly fish? not fly fish just like boat fish oh yeah dock fish montana where were you at like lake a lake in montana yeah i forget the i forget that oh we went to uh rainbow lake i think rainbow lake and then flathead. We went to Bozeman last summer, my family, and we went whitewater rafting down the Gallatin. Fuck, it's amazing, dude. You get soaked, though.

If you're in the shade, you're going to freeze your dick off. That water's cold. That water's glacial runoff. It's like the only one of the few times I noticed between a shadow and not shadow. Yeah. If you're in the sun, you're like, ah, it's perfect. I'll dry off. I'll be fine.

But if you're in the cold, in the shade, you're i'll dry off i'll be fine yeah but if you're in the cold in the shade you're fucking freezing that water's cold man you're so fucked and you just like take one step into the sunlight and you're like thank you it's like breathing that gallatin's weird because there's a lot of people that fly fish in that gallatin river but almost everybody releases the fish that they catch oh yeah yeah i got you yeah it's more like the sportsman yeah take on it rather than eating you're just tricking this fish and sticking a hook in his head and then you're pulling it to shore and then let it go letting it go like how many times if this is like a stream where a lot of people on this river if a lot of people fly fish what are the odds that a fish gets caught and released

like several times in its life man that would be something to ask a stochastician like you're getting the hook jesus again or maybe like you know what i don't mind it because i'm still alive i don't know i don't like the trauma i think it would suck yeah i don't think that they have nerve endings the in their mouth the way i think it's more like the think it would suck. Yeah. I don't think that they have nerve endings in their mouth the way, I think it's more like a lot of the tissue in their mouth other than their throat is like almost like a fingernail, I think is the way it's described. I see. Yeah, that makes sense.

Yeah. I mean, because that was the thing. It's like, I love fish, but I'm a little bit of a pussy about killing, you know? Right. And so I have to kind of like get into a mindset you know to to do it i mean i could i could do if i need to survive i need to of course i'm gonna eat i don't have a problem with that what about an ugly fish like a flounder it doesn't matter i was the kid trying to not step on ants going to school right right that was i was just like

very much even though i do you mean although i will say i'm really stoked about memphis meats memphis meats yeah memphis meats they're out of san francisco they're growing steaks and very much, even though I do eat meat, although I will say I'm really stoked about Memphis Meats. Memphis Meats. Yeah. Memphis Meats. They're out of San Francisco. They're growing steaks and growing chicken. Now, is that actual steak and actual chicken or is it a vegan alternative? From the cells of animals.

Jesus Christ. You're going to get zombie-itis. Yeah. I mean, some things are going to happen, but I do think that it's an interesting thing because I was vegan for like seven years and now I'm not. Do you get people mad at you because of that? You know, I've gotten some people like, I thought you were a vegetarian or I thought you were vegan. I thought you were open-minded, man.

Yeah, I thought you cared. But the thing is, I do care and I'm pretty particular about the sources of my protein. Very particular. particular but uh but i am excited about this idea of because it it poses an interesting question to someone who's um choosing to be vegan for ethical reasons or health reasons or both um if meat was able to be grown like it's saying that you liked meat before you became one you like i like the flavor but i don't like the ethical reasons make sense for health reasons totally i would feel like you know it's probably just as bad for you or worse unless unless you feel unless you feel bad when you eat certain things not like emotionally but if you just like have a reaction to meat some people do have that well that's fine the people that do you

know that's a real common thing recently um you know about that lone star tick disease no people getting allergic to meat there's some some oh weird yeah something that is in the bite of the tick uh something called they call it alpha gal for short uh-huh and when you get this you develop this allergy to this stuff that exists in red meat and so when people get bitten by this one particular tick they literally develop an allergy to red meat. And it can subside over time. But for a lot of people, they stick to chicken and fish afterwards.

They literally become allergic to eating meat. So they become healthier by- Not necessarily. See, that's where the whole saturated fat argument comes into play. Oh, sure. I guess it depends on the diet. There's all this confusion about whether or not red meat is bad for you. Because a lot of these studies that show that there's a direct correlation between red meat and heart attacks,

what they don't do is differentiate what kind of red meat. They don't make a differentiation between red meat that's grass fed, pasture raised cattle that's very healthy or bison versus a fast food burger with a white bread bun and French fries and a soda with all sorts of sugar in it. See, because the fact that people eat red meat on a daily basis, they don't take into consideration what they eat that red meat with. And there's a giant difference between eating a piece of grass fed meat with vegetables and a glass of water, maybe a yam, versus eating a fucking Carl's Jr.

double cheeseburger with fake bacon and just dripping with funk and sugary corn syrup. Sugar sauces. Yeah. I mean, you can't make the, but people do. And so the correlation between, these are not good tests, because the correlation between like, it's not a good, there's, these are not good tests because the correlation between red meat and cancer, you could say maybe, maybe, but not the way you guys showed it. The way you guys showed it is just eating red meat with a bunch of other shit versus

eating red meat and living a healthy life and eating with vegetables and having a, what you would call a balanced diet. Yep. You can't like say that it's all the same because it's just not. Yeah. No, I totally agree with that. I mean, for me, the red meat is like, I'll just feel better if I'm not eating it all the time.

Right. And I just prefer chicken or whatever. Dude, a lot of people have different, they have different reactions to all kinds of things. Sure. I know several people that have celiacs where they literally can't consume any bread. I know a bunch of people that have that. Yeah. And for those people, their body is obviously different than mine yeah mine if i eat bread i don't feel as good yeah you know if i eat a big ass sub like a fucking

pastrami sub it feels great while it's going down but then afterwards you feel like shit you feel like shit crash sometimes it's not it's hard to remember that. Yeah. Because you're like, well, I just want the thing. The difference between an in-and-out double-double with a bun versus protein style with the lettuce. Yeah. It's an infinitely different thing. I completely agree. I mean, you know, for me, it's like filet mignon or something like that. It's like really nice because it's like a very lean cut.

With a lot of blue cheese on the top. Well, I don't know about that. It's really nice because it's a very lean cut. With a lot of blue cheese on the top. Well, I don't know about that. I don't know if I can go there. I like the- Crumbled blue cheese and filet mignon. Yeah? You? No?

Okay. Jamie's too white bread. He's from Ohio. They don't even know what blue cheese is over there. Turn it into a cheeseburger. Just leave that job. They have ranch. No, bro.

A little blue cheese with a little crumbled blue cheese with some fucking look at you I'll tell you here's the problem honestly Also like filet mignon is a boring cut like a ribeye is the cut right sure it's got the fat Sure, it's like cooked in there, and you get a fucking nice dark surface on the outside Yes, slice in it's red in the middle. You get a fucking nice dark surface on the outside, and you slice in. It's red in the middle. You get a hunk of fat in your mouth. Woo! Yeah.

It's so much better tasting than filet mignon. So I would not have blue cheese with a ribeye. I will say that at Pacific Dining Car, I don't know what they do, but they make the most perfect filet mignon. There's, like, nothing on it. It's just the steak, but it is, like, the most flavor-complex piece complex piece of meat ever you go to the downtown one or the one that's the downtown one see the downtown one is like 24 hours a day isn't it how the fuck is that possible so i can get a steak at pacific dining cart downtown la at four o'clock in the morning you could i need to go yeah we need to have like a post-show pac Pacific dining cart dinner. Yeah, for sure.

After the store? Yeah. Because we're always going to these bullshit places to eat. Yeah. That place rocks, and it's got that heritage server vibe to it. It's really cool. I dig that, man. Have you gone to the one in Santa Monica?

I have not, no. It's excellent. Is it? They're both excellent. Okay, I'll take it. It's a super old-school steakhouse. Yeah. There's something about that that I like when they have a relationship with the cattle farm or whatever.

Yeah. But I will say I am excited about a grown steak. Right. You're excited about something where something doesn't have to die. Ethically, completely clean. If it tastes as good as the original and you're just like, no, I love both of these, you would obviously i would choose the the one that was just 100 yeah you know i mean just because like well just an efficiency i mean you know get rid of the empathy the emotional thing but like even just for efficiency's sake like how about this the saving the environment from methane yeah the amount of

methane that totally the problem is we don't need cows anymore. We'll have to start murking those cows I know I know cuz I just gonna fuck and just grow they're gonna be like deer Oh, yeah, dude online is true a photo from his house in Long Island and he was saying that Long Island is just infested with deer and that they're literally going in and give giving these These deer operations. What? Yeah, they're trying to remove their ovaries. They're giving them birth control pills. They're trying all these different ways.

Oh, my gosh. They have all these different proposals. And even some places they hire snipers. They're trying to figure out what to do because there's no predators. And there's just a fucking astounding number of deer. You know, it's just human civilization. It's a domino effect. We keep, like, fucking. Sort of. But the real issue is there's no predators. number of deer that's you know it's you know it goes it's just human civilization like we just it's a domino effect we keep like fucking sort of but the real issue is there's no predators i mean

if they really want to get bold if they released a bunch of wolves over there they take care of that i agree but that was a human decision you know say like because those ecosystems work perfectly and then we come in and we're like i don't like those trees over there and a bird goes away and then like that bird was responsible for this thing and that blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then I don't like wolves eating my kids. I hate wolves. I don't like the way they have sharp teeth. I don't like it one bit.

And they, they don't look very, very friendly. So, so whatever the reason, but so that's kind of what you get. Yeah. You monkey with a perfect system. Yeah. But once you monkey with that perfect system, once you monkeyed it out yeah you're responsible you there's fucking deer everywhere yeah you got to keep it running i know you gotta keep it running man for people who live around there it's a huge pain in the ass because they crash into those

things all the time i know and you could die oh i've had friends yeah run into meese and uh moose yeah moose is the scariest one that's like run into a tree it's like it's like a it's like stories of like some guy who had a pickup truck was going like i don't know 45 something like that 50 hit it hit a moose and the moose just walked into the forest yeah probably broke a lot of shit but they probably broke some shit but it walked away it'll probably hopefully heal did you see the video on YouTube very recently of a guy hitting a moose on a highway in Canada? And it launches it into the air I mean launches it like the moose just steps out into the road and boom this guy hits it with his car and the people That are filming it like holy shit. Yeah, this moves is just flying through the air

Yeah, I mean fucking flying like, 30 feet through the air. What happened to it? Did it die? It must have died. I don't know. It was just a quick video. It had to have died. That is.

It might not have, man. I mean, it might have, but they're so tough. They're just. Here it is right here. Meats are tough. See this guy's driving. Boom. Oh my gosh.

Yeah. That's not alive. That looked like a deer more than a moose. The other one that I saw, honestly, Jamie, was different. Maybe it's the same video from a different angle. Oh, that's not alive. That looked like a deer more than a moose. The other one that I saw, honestly, Jamie, was different. Maybe it's the same video from a different angle. Oh, that's a moose. That's it. Oh, my God.

Oh, my God. That's incredible. That's dead. He's just lying. He gets scared, and he's playing dead because he doesn't want anybody. Oh, he's definitely dead. That sucks. Definitely dead, and that car is jackmified.

That's probably totaled. Caved in bent frame That's just sucks so bad Well they you know it's There's some place like in Idaho Montana where they have those Underpasses or those overpasses Which is pretty great to help the animals cross Yeah the nature highways I think that's

So I mean there's like so many things you We could do obviously it's it's resource Intensive and whether people agree with it or not But we could totally be in harmony with things. It's amazing. We need money for guns. We don't have time for that. You're right.

They're doing that on- Six hour hour. There's a project to do that on the 101 for mountain lions. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They should do that. Apparently, the genetic diversity of the mountain lions is threatened by the 101 because there's

mountain lions on the ocean side and they're breeding too much with the mountain lions over there. Oh, interbreeding. It's too hard for them to get across the 101 to find all the mountain lions on this side. As you go deep into Simi Valley and those areas. So apparently, they're trying to figure out some way to mitigate that. And one of the best ideas is this really wide strip of land so these things feel comfortable. And they're gonna like pave it

i mean they're gonna like uh you know put dirt there and yeah i've seen those they look great too but it's a shitload of money yeah but you know what they need to do that shit i mean it's like you know if we have enough shit humans already like even even some of us i mean minus mental uh problems um mental issues it's like that's we have so much. It's just, it's, it's crazy. Even when I was like, I mean, I was never like destitute, but I was definitely very, very poor and wasn't sure if I would make rent or had to borrow a lot of money for, for a few years and things like that. But you just realize how much you have, like, I mean, if you're, if you're in comparison in comparison like i can always find water i could

always find water and if i was social enough i could definitely gain the trust of people to be able to let me crash for a while on a on a couch so there was always a way to survive even if there are little things so i the reason why i bring that up is just because like nature it's kind of our job to be stewards of of nature We should be better at it. It certainly is in a lot of ways. We certainly should be responsible. That's why it should be so much more of a big deal when something like some sort of a company pollutes a bay or an ocean. It is such a giant deal.

You can't gloss over it with a cleanup. What you've done is like that whole thing that happened with BP and the oil spill in the Gulf. They devastated an entire ecosystem. I mean, all the people that relied on that area for fishing, all the people that lived nearby, and then the people that had to clean it. Apparently, the people that had to clean it were like, No bueno. You had to clean up gasoline spill oil spill all day that should

be good for you are you breathing that in yeah good what do you got over your face like one of them fucking surgical masks 3m a 3m mask and then paper masks that should be sufficient definitely it's going to filter out all the toxins that are going to get into your dna so terrible man yeah i mean i mean you. Much of Deepwater Horizon oil spill has disappeared because of bacteria. Oh, that's good. Well, they were eating microbes. Look at this. Didn't they?

They poured that on there, didn't they? Yeah. That was like one of the things. That's some new shit they're going to use actually for plastic as well. Yeah. Chemicals used to disperse it are kept underwater, making it more available to the microbes that live in the deeper portions of the ocean. What's up with all those Facebook things like right in front of it?

Just like an issue with the website. What's up with all those Facebook things like right in front of it? Just like an issue with the website? It's called shitty coding, CNBC. You fucks, you CNBC. That's amazing. I just love when someone super smart figures out a giant issue we have. With something simple. Yeah, oh, microbes.

Microbes can eat oil. Or fungus. Fungus is great. Fungus gets rid of oil. But meanwhile, those microbes are going to get eaten by fish, and those fish are going to become huge, and they're going to start thinking through, and they go, I'm tired of these motherfuckers coming in and killing us. We've got to go out there and kill them.

I hope so. You want fish to kill people? I don't mind. I mean, if they tried to really fuck with us, that'd be good. If there's like a new... We would go to war with the fish, and we'd feel good about eating them. Maybe. What is this?

Bacteria are evolving to eat plastic we dump into the ocean. Whoa. They're evolving to do it. Without us doing it? That's not good. We're going to make an alien, man. Like the movie Alien. Like the Geiger Alien.

Yeah. You mean the Xenomorph? Yeah. Yeah. Did you see... I posted this thing on Instagram a couple days ago that I saw from Nature is Metal, the Instagram account, and it's a cuttlefish. Have you ever seen how a cuttlefish jacks other fish?

No. Does he spear it? Dude, watch this. Watch this. It doesn't even seem real. Look at that. Yo! Tell me that's not like some Avatar shit.

It's like an underwater frog. But the way it opens up like a flower and pulls this thing into it. I mean, this is incredible. Look. It stabs it and then shoom. It's so cool. It's such a great system. God.

Because it's like, it keeps it closed to stay in camouflage. Yeah. And then it only opens it last second. And probably maybe the color mesmerizes as it's moving forward. The sea anemones, it literally takes on the shape and texture of the sea anemones. That's amazing. The amount of camouflage it has is insane. There's somehow or another, I guess, related to octopus, which many of the octopus can do the same thing.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. The camouflage thing is insane. I mean, nature is way more advanced than we'll ever... I mean, well, we are nature, but it's just like from our point of view, looking at nature, which is just like an evolution of, you know, it's molecular evolution.

Meanwhile, the octopus is like, what the fuck are you complaining about, dude? You have a phone, okay? You can fly in a plane. Yeah, totally. You're bitching that you can't turn into, like you look like a coral reef? Yeah.

Nobody gives a fuck. Is that a cuttlefish right there pretending to be a coral reef? No. It's a micro crab. Feeding it a crab. What are they feeding? A crab. This is a cuttlefish.

Oh, whoa. Look at that fucker. That's so amazing. Ooh, what a weird looking freaky alien creature. It's great. And I love its propulsion system. It's great. It just undulates on the science.

It's so cool. It's just, I love it. I love the, I also its propulsion system. It's great. It just undulates on the science. It's so cool. It's just, I love it. I love the, I also really love spiders. I think spiders are just incredible. The king of camouflage. Play that video. Oh, yeah. King of camouflage.

The cuttlefish. And they are kind of cuddly looking. They do have like a little smile to them and these cute eyes. I don't think they mean the same kind of cuddle. I think it's cuddle with a C-T. No, no, no. That's what they meant. That's what they meant that's what they meant look at how it just becomes like whatever it's near like when it sits down on stuff yeah it's that's so cool look at it looks like other fish oh that's a octopus yeah like

look at this octopus as it's on the ground encephalopod these things are just they've adapted so cool a way to fake it it's just it's just so alien to us and that's the thing about like oh my god look at that shit crazy instantaneous look at how it looks like the bottom of that thing that it's in looks more like um cthulhu than octopuses right right well you know it's like you were talking about before about the idea of aliens visiting us like why would we think that they would look? Like us at all. Oh, yeah, no, I mean, you know, they could just be spheres of energy And they're just like hey guys. What's up? Why do they have to have a language even why can't they just convey intent? Well, that's why I like that was that movie that came out recently The alien. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

The one, the memory one. Which I wrote off at first. Then I went back and watched it and liked it. It's pretty fucking great. What was it called again? Jeremy Renner, that guy? Yeah. Septipods?

The Arrival? Arrival, yeah. Yeah, Arrival. I really liked that movie. I liked it eventually. I first saw it when the girl died. I was like, get the fuck out of here. You're not going to get me with this. Shut it off. I know, I know. I liked it eventually. I first saw it when the girl died. I was like, get the fuck out of here. You're not going to get me with this.

I know. I know. I know. Yeah. And then like, man, that changed real quick. Yeah. It was very interesting. It was like, and they were something totally different.

Yeah. Yeah. It's the way I feel. It's like, why would we assume that everything would be physical when we have things like wifi? that everything would be physical when we have things like Wi-Fi. We have literally all of the world's data coming to you on your phone from space with zero connection. You take that thing, spin that phone around, there's nothing physical connecting it.

So why wouldn't we assume that information would travel from alien to alien like that? Why do they need a language? Why do they need to be able to touch things and see things and feel things yeah great it might be information information might be an alien they that's why you know like when people talk about doing dmt or you know or uh or even ketamine you know like the kind of dissociative intelligences that people are intelligences being undissoci was like that they feel around them like almost an insect-like intelligence. That's why I think like,

everything is just pure consciousness. It's just everything is consciousness. Around you all the time. Yeah, all the time. It's entirely possible. I mean, you know, it's like that's what you are. Yeah.

It's all we are. I mean, as far as we know, we're vibrating weird particles. We just don't have the senses to deal with whatever the fuck else is around. We have the senses to deal with whatever the fuck else is around. We have the senses to deal with all our biological needs, all of our imperatives,

what we need to concentrate on in order to stay functional as a flesh bag. Yeah. We're a division of consciousness. Yes. We're literally life forms. We're forms of life.

Well, your body literally is an avatar for consciousness. Oh, yeah. Just like the movie. That's what I call the biomechanical consciousness transport system. Ooh, that's a good name for it. If you want to talk to chicks,

what we're going to do is we're just going to get in the hot tub with our biological transport. So containment vehicles, whatever, whatever. It's no big deal. It's a hot tub. It feels good. You know,

I'll sit over here. You sit over there. So some, you sit over there some women would probably take that they'd be like yeah that's cool and then you're like yeah girls with tattoos

like right above their tits they would go for that they'd be like yeah I like what you're saying you made me feel good about my choices yeah I dig it

thanks man I dig it you want some of this joint especially if you have a hairdo like yours you can pull that kind of talk off oh yeah yeah although that fat jewish guy's made that haircut a little fucked up that guy's kind of like tapped into it in a way it's yeah yeah strange man it's become an issue strange man strange man who is the guy guy de board on your shirt who's guy de board oh gee de board gee oh okay um i don't care anymore he started yeah it's like ah fuck this it's the guy who started

the situationists they were kind of like a philosophical um artistic movement in the 50s and he was french and And they got basically credited. It was kind of like Dadaism mixed with like some different artistic techniques and some philosophy. But they would do these exercises to kind of shake their orientation. Like they loved disorientation. So they would, you know, drink a bunch of absinthe and walk around their town and act like a group of them would act like they were tourists in their own town.

And they would navigate by looking up at the buildings as opposed to street level. So they would do things like that or take maps, tourist maps of other cities and superimpose them block for block on another city. like on another city or they did jokes like we are weird, like kind of bits where one guy dressed as a Bishop and actually led a sermon at, um, at Notre Dame. And, uh,

when you don't ever say it like that again, how dare you? But they, they were prank. They were like pranksters. They were like, kind of like Notre Dame. They were,

they were, they were like prancers and they were credited. Malcolm McLaren was a situationist. And he created, kind of partially created the Sex Pistols as living mannequins for his fashion. Oh, wow. And so the punk movement is kind of associated with situationists. Because their whole mantra, I mean, it's a distillation, but it's like provoke to the edge of violence. Whoa.

No, that's interesting. Was there ever a documentary on these guys? There might be. I've never found one. I'm just like there's the Society of the Spectacle, which is one of the books that he wrote, and there's like two books that he wrote. Guy Debord's The Society of the Spectacle.

Yeah. Oh, interesting. Yeah. Will Self takes a walk through the, how do you say that? Where? Interesting. Yeah. The self, Will's self takes a walk through the, how do you say that?

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with the Twitter thing showing up right there on the pictures. The fuck is with your browser, son? I'm zooming in and it probably fucks with it. You probably have ad blockers and all kinds of weird things going on. Oh, that's probably what it is. Maybe you've been hacked, son! H-A-C-K-E-D. Anyways, that's who he is is. A lot of extensions. Maybe you've been hacked, son. H-A-C-K-D. Anyways, that's who he is.

That's amazing. I didn't know about that guy. Yeah, when I first moved to New York, a friend of mine, a performance artist, took me to this experimental theater that was in a garage in Williamsburg, like way back. It was still pretty shitty, seedy.

And you walk into this garage, and they had this theater piece on Guy Debord. And it was amazing. CD and you walk into this garage and they had this theater piece on Guida board. And, uh, it was amazing as soon as I, cause they kind of explained what it was about and the journey and blah, blah, blah.

But it was also done in a style that would have been situationist. So we were just like on these boards that were on top of buckets for seats, for bleachers. And then they were passing around like beers. Like, so people were just drinking beers and watching this play and it was amazing and it really inspired me where i was like oh yeah i dig i like it i like that pranking hacking social hacking it's nice provoked to the point of violence like just the edge of violence yeah just before violence sounds like an annoying neighbor

yeah basically but someone who's doing it on purpose, which is even more annoying. Yeah, super annoying. It's more than just like, ah, he's an annoying person. It's like, oh, no, this person's doing it on purpose. Like Andy Kaufman. Right. Situationist. Yeah.

He wouldn't necessarily maybe have described himself as that, but he's a perfect example of that. Or Andy Warhol. More Kaufman, right? Because Warhol was just creating art. Well, yeah, but his whole con artist kind kind of vibe whether he would have ascribed to her not but the fact that he was kind of conning a little bit you know that sample the Campbell soup soup can write a little bit of a con a little bit but people enjoyed looking at it they did but it started it's kind of like that

when I see it I'm like it's's a little bit of a con it's like and the factory idea you know um is also a little bit of a con it's a little bit of a of a hack i mean in a conscious really intelligent philosophical way right it's not to say that he's really trying to fool me it's not that he's just like this and and people are like yes i like it and he's, that's what I thought. You know? Right, right. A little bit.

It's always weird when like people push back against someone trying to push what they think is too far. Like they become these big cultural arguments as to what's art and what's not, especially when things are funded. Like, do you remember Piss Christ? Do you remember all that? You don't remember that?

What the fuck is that? That was, God damn it, what was his name? I was just starting out doing stand-up, so this is the late 80s. God, what is his name? What was his name? Okay, it wasn't that one I was thinking of. There was a, that was one of them. I mean, there was a piece about it.

There was another guy, there was another guy who was, like, famous for that kind of shit. God damn it. Very controversial artist who did a lot of weird, sexual, and odd stuff in the late 80s, early 90s. And it became a huge issue because people were mad that some of it was being funded and put up in museums that were state funded. Oh, interesting. God damn it. It's at the tip tip of my tongue i can't remember this guy's name these are like pieces of art like artworks yeah and uh piss christ was one of them what piss christ was was a uh a jar of piss with a crucifix in it and it was on display in a museum oh i do remember that yeah people like what in the fuck is this and And they called it Piss Christ.

And people would travel from all over the world to go stare at Piss Christ. I get it. It was the audacity, right? Part of it is the audacity to just do something like that and just be cool with it. I mean, that's my favorite art. One of my favorite moments in kind of discovering that was when I was going to Cornish College of the Arts in Seattle. And every I think it was every Tuesday or Thursday or maybe every Wednesday, one of the middle days, they would allow students to throw a concert in the theater, in the small Poncho Hall Theater. And you could just sign up for it and you could do whatever you wanted.

theater in the small poncho hall theater and you could just sign up for it and you could do whatever you wanted and one day it was like all the kind of i guess i would call them performance art musician uh conceptual musician badasses like all on stage and it was like brent arnold on cello this guy avan kang um uh on violin or viola and uh guy on bass uh just like five or six people on stage, all bad asses, Tim Young. And I was in the theater and there were like maybe 23 kids in a 60 seat theater, just like chilling, scattered throughout the seats. And they started playing and everybody was playing through distortion pedals. And they just started playing these distortion pedals and they just started playing these distortion drones like all of them and and then eventually it just

sounded it you saw people doing things on stage but all you could hear was for for like uh probably an hour and uh and there and uh i i had earplugs in and and everybody cleared out like everybody cleared out and i hung to the end but i started like i started like head bobbing because like that's when i started realizing that static whether you're seeing visual static or audio static after after a while, you start to hallucinate. And you start to hear music in static. So if you hear... Eventually, when you defocus, it's like those magic eye puzzles where you're supposed to hold your thumb up. And then all of a sudden, oh, I can see this three-dimensional image.

Same exact concept, essentially. But your mind is creating the geometric structure because it wants to find structure and static is like raw energy So like Jodie Foster in contact when she would stare at the static trying to find patterns in it exactly. That's exactly right Yeah, yeah similar thing and so what I started like I just couldn't stop like head banging essentially, but it was like really slow. And then afterwards they came up to me and they're like, oh, okay, you're one of those. I just remember the bass player saying that to me and I was like, oh, that's so cool. Like he didn't have to explain anything at all. It's like I knew he was saying.

So for me, when I see duration pieces, things that test people's patience, I love it. I love like seeing people, I can't stand this. And you're just like, no, just wait. Just hang in there. No, I can't stand it. Or it's pissing people off. I love it. It's like there's, or not even pissing them off, just making them frustrated.

Right. Like there's a certain amount of frustration that I think is fun to play with. At least when I'm doing comedy, a little bit of that is is good just like little doses here and there right it's kind of my my thing i like it it's a good feeling but um test to see if people are willing to relax yeah yeah totally you're just like i'm just fucking with you just keep that in mind when i'm doing something that seems kind of frustrating right and if you can keep both those things in mind you can relax and just go for the ride right if you if you want or you could just be like this fucking sucks and leave which

is fine too i mean it's not not for it's not not for everybody nothing nothing is right it's and it all depended upon like whether or not you're good at delivering the ride yeah right totally yeah yeah if as long as there's a reward that's the thing yeah it's like i mean that's what you're doing right you're always playing off of something that's what a reward, that's the thing. Yeah. I mean, that's what you're doing, right? You're always playing off of something. That's what a joke is. It's like expectations subvert the expectation. And there's so many different ways, a few different ways you can do that. And there's going to be people that just have different styles that they enjoy. Like there's people that are Gabriel Iglesias fans.

There's people that are Tig Notaro fans. Yeah, right. You know what I'm saying? Right, right, right. And there's people that are fans of both. Yeah, totally. Yeah, totally. I know. I'm like one of those those i'm like i like anybody that's funny yeah i like yeah i like any music that's good yeah that's that's a good way to say it yeah

results may vary yeah results may vary but like you know if you know it's just like it's a sincerity you know i mean we all know it's like comics if we're watching other comics up there that we haven't seen before you can tell pretty quick when it's coming from an honest place. Yeah. Even if it's like they're a little nervous, you can tell they're nervous and they're kind of playing a cool front. Like you can tell that the jokes, the point of view is coming from an honest place. Well, it's also, I think we lost that with DJs. There's not a lot of DJs. When I was a kid, I would remember DJs playing songs,

and there was sincere appreciation for the songs they were playing because they had picked this song. They really want you to dig this song. And you'd find a DJ that you really enjoyed his show. Like, oh, he's going to be on from 3 to 7. This guy's the shit. He plays great music. And you'd listen to him talk about the songs,

and there was this authentic thing to it versus like a jack FM station We're like here we go jack FM all the hits all the difference all the time. Yeah 24-7 fade right into the music. Yeah Like KCRW. Yeah. Yeah You get that with kids here. So donate now to know just can't Share with Terry gross. Hi Terry gross all things considered Public radio international NPR I used to listen to that all the time Corva Coleman Those my morning ritual. Well, it's only NPR I act before there were podcasts, this is different than what other things you're hearing.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. All things considered. I love Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me. Ooh, all those are good. It's a pretty fun time. It's pretty biting, actually, and it's lightning fast. I mean, the wit on there is just awesome. Yeah, NPR, Radiolab is NPR, isn't it?

Radiolab, yep. Yeah, I mean, that was one of the best podcasts, period. Amazing. I've learned more from Radio Lab than I did from all my years of barely paying attention in school. Like, for sure. I quote Radio Lab more than I quote

most books I've read. No, I agree. I agree. They're absolutely fantastic. I mean, there's just like a lot of cool shows on there that I like. And KCRW's dope because they play so much dope music. Like it's, I discover like probably 80% of my music on there. Really?

What station is that? KCRW, it's 93.3, is it? Or 89.9. I haven't listened to a radio station in fucking years. You haven't turned on the radio in years. It's cool. I just get the app and I stream it from my app and from my phone. I listen to music when I work out, sometimes when I'm driving.

Yep. Most of the time I'm listening to podcasts now. Oh, 89.9. 89.9, city of license, Santa Monica, public broadcasting. Yeah. Owner, Santa Monica College. How weird. Yeah, they're moving.

They got a new location, but they're like one of the most influential radio stations in the country, I think. That's the place where Henry Rollins has his weekly show, right? Yeah, totally. Yeah. Fanatic. Yeah, and that's him. Hey, guys, fanatic!

That's a good Rollins impression. Yeah. It's great. I mean, you just get like this kind of more like 80s radio feel. Right, right, right. You get like these underground guys or, you know, people like these really warm voices. Radio feel right right right you get like these underground guys or you know people like these really warm voices like that was a new one from orbital coming out with a single that's

definitely Definitely geared more towards the kids from the 1990s if you remember that time period this is a new one from you know Like that kind of shit where you're like, oh, yeah You feel like you're in a warm bath of like oh, what else you got? This is a new one from Flantarf. And then it's just like this weird, angular, gross sounding music. And you're like, how are you able to talk like that and play that track? That was great. Well, I love the fact that people could just play whatever they want.

Like, we need more of that. Totally. We tried for a long time to do it the other way. It doesn't work. No, algorithms. Fuck it. I mean, we've got Spotify now and you got all that shit, which I don't really dig. You don't?

Not as much. I mean, sometimes I'll Spotify now and you got all that shit, which I don't really dig, but not as much. I mean, I sometimes I'll do a radio station on Apple music, but I like choosing, I listen to albums. So I listened to an album for a long time and then I'll switch to another album or I'll switch to like three songs off of a record. But I like choosing when I'm listening to on occasion, I have discovered cool music by using the radio station but really for me i'd rather just do kcrw because then there's a real human you know going hey check this out yeah and it's it's a rare treat yeah i like that i like it i like keeping it a little bit more old school when it comes to music discovery and listening well just the fact that you know that this is rare now you know you appreciate it yeah absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. Well, we have to come back to it. I mean, the organic shit.

I mean, that's why, like, anything I look at, like technology, it's like we're still kind of primitive. It's not organic enough. It's not an afterthought. We're not in afterthought mode. It's not like, you know, technology should be like a light switch. I went to a restaurant the other day, and all of their furniture was made with metal pipes and wood like this table. And you know that sort of crafty sort of feel to things where you're touching wood and there's brick on the wall?

That's like suit. And the menu is written in a chalkboard. Yeah, totally. People want that shit now. Oh, they like the personal touch. It reminds them of being human because we're so digital most of the time. Yeah, if somebody gives you an iPad and the menu's on the iPad, you're like, fuck off. No, don't like it.

Bring that chalkboard over here. Do not like it. I want to see the specials on the chalkboard. Yeah. I want to swipe. Oh, no. To go, well, what kind of beer do you have? Swipe.

No. It's gross. Gross. I don't like it. Gross. I don't like it. That's why I think monitors, TVs should only be in sports bars. Yeah.

And then keep them out of all the other places. I'd love to just go. I'm not a drinker, but if I go to a bar with a friend, I love it when I go into a bar that's just a bar. And what I mean is there's no fucking television. It's off, maybe just in case for an emergency broadcast or something because there are people gathered there, whatever. But I like it when it's like there's no fucking monitor. People are just chilling and having conversations with each other. Right.

That's what a bar should be. Maybe you show Blade on every screen. Oh, yeah. Streaming 24-7. But project it. Ooh. You know, project it on a screen just to soften the light. Because otherwise you get that screen glare, which is fucking asshole.

You're going super old school. Do you drive a fucking horse? Yeah, I do. I do drive a horse. That's the technical term for it. You drive one. Well, we're going to long for the days where engines were real. One day we're going to be like, remember back when cars made noises and you could hear them coming?

Yeah, totally. I'll be like, yeah, remember when you used to drive them? Yeah. That was my favorite scene in iRobot. He's like, I'm going manual. They're going like 300 miles per hour. And then the computer's like, or no, the person in the passenger seat, are you crazy going to switching to manual at these speeds?

I love that. Yeah, man. One day, that'll be a thing of the past. The spherical wheels, though. I mean, come on. That was sick. Yeah. The car could rotate while it's still maintaining the same speed forward.

Oh, yeah. That's right. That's coming, the same speed forward. Oh, yeah, that's right That's coming to our spheres. Yeah, they have them in fact factory floor robots or like forklifts now. Oh, yeah I forget what they call that type of steering But it's like crab. It's basically crab like so it can move forward sideways any any way How many years do you think we have where it's still legal to drive your own car? I? Think we have probably ten years ten years. Yeah, that sounds about right. Yeah. you think we have where it's still legal to drive your own car? I think we have probably 10 years. 10 years.

Sounds good. That sounds about right. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like it's going to creep in. We're going to realize how much safer it is. People with some, some assholes are going to fuck up with manual.

They're going to crash into a school or something like that. Yeah. And then people are going to go enough with the manual. Yeah. Enough. I know. Yeah. Or they'll do semi manual.

Like you can, you can, you can steer, you can drive within certain parameters, but if the computer senses you're going off the rails and it'll fucking guide the car back. Well, you know, that's why it's so, there's such a demand for really old cars that have like tactile feedback. Yeah. They're so expensive.

Like if you buy a 1973 Porsche, which is only like 150, 200 horsepower engine, if those things are in good shape, they're worth a fuckload of money now. It's true. Because you feel everything when you're driving that thing. Yeah, totally. You feel every bump that you drive over. You feel there's no power steering at all. So you feel like every turn on the steering wheel. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You feel the force against the wheel as opposed to an interpretation. And when you turn hard, it's harder to turn. Yeah, way harder, yeah. You feel it. You got to be present with it every moment. Whereas with new power steering, you could kind of be absent-minded and be taking a pretty hard corner, which is easy to roll the car. Well, difference in also the newest power steering, even opposed to the last generations, now they do power steering that's electric. Yeah, it's fly-by-wire.

You don't feel anything. Whereas the hydraulic gave you varying feedback depending on how much load was on. Yeah, or rack and pinion. I always loved rack. I thought that was the perfect happy medium. Yeah. Because it was like... Well, those really old cars were so light, like those old Porsches and old BMWs, like the BMW 2002.

You know, those little tiny boxy things. Yep, I love those. They were so light, you didn't have to have power steering. Yeah. Well, I mean, what people are doing now is they're pulling the transmissions and engines and replacing them with electric. So you still have the road feel and the handling of it. But you get the batteries. But you get the batteries. But you get the batteries.

So you don't get, I mean, it's not loud, but you get this great fusion of like, you've got the classic car look, but you've got the speed and the pickup. So you've got like this little tiny BMW 2002 and you're doing 0 to 60 in 3.5 seconds. I saw somebody did that with a 1965 Mustang. They took a 65 Mustang and turned it into an electric car and it was like stupid fast. It's a beast. I know the one you're talking about. It's crazy. You're looking at this classic old school muscle car and yet it has like a Tesla

underbody. Yeah, it's like an electric muscle car. Yeah, it's mad. I mean, Rimac, do you know that car brand? No, what's that? Rimac or Rimic. How do you spell that? I think it's Estonian R-I-M-A-C. They make this electric car. Four electric motors.

Motor for each wheel. Ooh. It's got over 1,000 horsepower. Jesus. Zero to 60 in 3.2? Something like that? 3.1? Maybe even faster than that.

And, or no. No, no, no, no. 2. Whoa, look at that thing. 2.3? That thing's insane looking. Because my car does 2.3 that thing's insane looking because my card is 2.3 what car do you have uh tesla p100d damn son look at this thing this thing's beautiful it looks like uh one of those lexus coupes those new lexus coupes yeah yeah check and see if you can get amazing yeah see if they can have like a yeah there you go look at

the the that thing's beautiful yeah it's like it's crazy and so it does uh it it definitely does um vectoral steering and vectoral power uh power power distribution so those things are gorgeous it can corner like a motherfucker and because the computer's monitoring traction all the time to each wheel with an electric motor that has instantaneous torque you're able to steer the car with acceleration whoa so if you're coming around a corner depending on the mode and the way that you're driving you can actually push the car around the corner with the wheels using the input from the steering wheel so your directional steering but also vectoral steering at the same time whoa so that car is disgusting it's just leaving this tesla behind not just leaving it leaving it like it's parked yeah and this guy uh this guy actually does some good shit

and so on there's like some like young rich guys that always do car stuff but i like that guy he's gonna race a ferrari oh you know it's gonna bury that that Ferrari. Oh, no the Ferrari's history. It's a LaFerrari Yeah, that's a Ferrari LaFerrari. Yeah, it's a Ferrari LaFerrari, which is a hybrid That's what it was crazy. The Rimac. Yeah. No, the Rimac's gonna win. I know it. Really? I think so. Let's see Three two one go. Oh my god off the line Instantaneously not even close Let's just see you later. I mean it's linear power curve, right? It's an absolute curve. It's a curve. It's just a perfect curve of absolute power. That's insane

Now where does one get one of these remax? You how far can they drive? I don't know Yeah, totally it can go 200 feet per charge. Find out how long those things drive for. Let's take a guess. I say they have 220 miles on them. What do you say? I'm going to say 180 miles, 200 miles to 200 miles.

Interesting. You went low ball. I thought you were going to go high ball on me. Top end of 225 or something like that, which for an electric car is a huge deal. What's your Tesla get? What's the longest distance you drive? 340 that's pretty goddamn good. So make that our three What did you think about when Tesla when they like had a bunch of people? What does it say two point eighty two kilowatt can give a concept 205 miles? Yeah, so they don't specify conceptual driving The drive cycle. Yeah, so I'm like a maniac. I'm gonna say miles. Yeah. That they don't specify the drive cycle. That's conceptual driving. The drive cycle, yeah.

So if you're driving like a maniac. I'm going to say 150. Yeah, maybe not even, right? Yeah, 140. What did you think about, like, during the hurricane in Florida, Tesla released a bunch of these cars that had restrictions on the amount of distance they could drive? Oh.

Yeah, and so they did it remotely, and they gave these cars more of a distance. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. They control speed, probably govern top speed? No, I think they actually literally have a threshold of how far they're, like, you could pay more when you buy them. So, like, if you buy one, you could have the option

to have a 250-mile gas tank or a 350-mile gas tank. Oh, they would just unlock the capability? Yeah, exactly. Interesting. So the same kilowatt battery, size kilowatt battery. Yeah. I don't know about that.

I don't like that. It's weird, right? I think as long as the battery system is modular so that you can add or take away from it without huge manufacturing costs of changing the shape of the battery, which is what Tesla does, you can either elongate the body of the car and then add more packs. Yeah. Or you can shorten the body of the car, narrow is what Tesla does. You can either elongate the body of the car and then add more packs, or you can shorten the body of the car, narrow it, less packs. But I think it should just be packs. You're just fucking people over.

I just don't think it's cool. Because you have the capability. It's just a software thing. It's not going to cost any extra money. Unless the idea... But it's so weird. It's like, well, then why not just make a competitive lease for the battery capacity that you want?

Or they're like, buy it for a small price now, and if you want to pay more later, we can unlock more battery potential. Yeah, but here's the problem. Instead of, like, say if you buy an engine and it has 800 horsepower, and then there's another option. You could buy the V6, and that only has 350 horsepower. Psych. We're kidding. The V6 has 800 horsepower. We're not going to let you use it cuz you're not paying us

That's what really what it is sure because it's the same exact battery pack Yeah, I don't like that that that I don't like that doesn't make sense I mean unless intentionally they've crippled some of their cars and the other ones that given you an option to not cripple But we want you to pay more well you have the same exact hardware. It's an it's an in-app purchase Well it is kind of but it's it's it's way different because you're talking about like a physical It's like almost if your phone you have to pay more and your phone has 250 gigabytes versus 100 totally That's really what it is Yeah

But it's like also the same as like getting a video game and you're like I've got the video game and they're like would you? Like to unlock more content, but see that's a journey you're on right your video game is a portal to a journey This is a physical device that has the capability to drive 350 miles like now you can't have those 350 I'll give you two well 200 miles also how many times like realistically I'm only driving like maybe 30 miles a day, but that doesn't matter But I'm just saying like you want to go across country if the idea was like you could in the future well see it doesn't Make sense. I don't, it doesn't make sense. I don't know.

I don't know if that's, is that a real thing? It's a real thing. Stupid. It just doesn't make any sense. It's like you don't need to do that. It makes sense if you want to make money. Well, I guess if you just want to like unify the manufacturing process so that you can create a higher yield or something like that.

Dude, you're looking at it like the man. You sound like the man to me. I'm looking at it as the Johnny Blue Collar Consumer and I'm fucking pissed. Hey, I the man to me. I'm looking at Johnny Blue Collar Consumer, and I'm fucking pissed. I am pissed at you. I'm just saying. I understand. Red, you want? We're going to wrap this pitch up. Yeah, let's wrap it out. This was awesome, man.

I know people were talking a long time. They were like, oh, you should be on his show. You should be on his show. Well, you know, Pete, you and I ran into each other the first time we ever met on a plane. Remember that? Oh, yeah. We were flying to London or something together. Yeah, you know, Pete, you and I ran into each other the first time we ever met on a plane. Remember that? Oh, yeah. We were flying to London or something together. Yeah, yeah.

That's crazy. Just randomly. That is. International plane. We were like one seat ahead of each other. We took selfies. Yeah. I put the selfie on Instagram.

Remember that shit? That's right. That was a long time ago, man. That was a long time ago, yeah. I think it was you, me, and Tony Hinchcliffe. Oh, my God. Whoa, that was a while ago. A long time ago.

Fuck. I think we were on our way Somewhere in Europe. I want to say Yeah From London to LA from Randomly, that's so crazy crazy time travel man. Yeah time travel year was that young Jamie? Time travel, man. Yeah.

Time travel. What year was that, young Jamie? 2000, January 2015. Crazy. Just think at the moment we took that picture, we were simultaneously talking about this moment, reflecting on this picture. Crazy, man. So in a way, we were time traveling. We were.

We were time traveling. And we were on a time travel ship. Anyways, I'm stoked. And now we're done. Say goodbye. Goodbye, everyone'm stoked. And now we're done. Say goodbye. Goodbye, everyone. Sleep well. Goodbye.

Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye.