The Joe Rogan Experience - #1018 - Alonzo Bodden

Episode Date: October 3, 2017

Alonzo Bodden is a stand up comedian and winner of Last Comic Standing Season 3. He hosts his own podcast called “Who’s Paying Attention" on Spotify.

and less gay. Ah! Boom, ladies and gentlemen. And we're live, Alonzo Bolden. How are you, man? What is up, Joe? I'm great, man. Somber times. These are the weirdest fucking times ever. R.I.P. to Tom Petty. Uh, I guess we have to say

that, too. Yeah. And then, obviously... It's a ridiculous time. And like everyone's been saying, again. You know what I mean? It's like, here we and like everyone's been saying again you know what I mean it's like here we go again another go again another mass shooting and that the I think the most disturbing graphic to me was the scorecard like they showed like this guy got 58 and then the guy in Orlando got what 40 something and something. And so because it's like, OK, you just encouraged the next psycho to try to set the record. You know what I mean?

Like it like it shouldn't be. There has to be another way to say it without giving publicity to he killed more than anybody else. Yeah. You know. Well, for everybody who's listening in the future, this is taking place. We're recording this on Tuesday. The massacre happened in Las Vegas on Sunday. So it's just a couple days ago.

And we were just going over all the details of it. I'm reading online here. Killed 59 people. Injured 527, which is just fucking completely insane. I mean, 527 people shot is that right or is that like does that count people trampled I think it includes people trampled and injured otherwise but there were a hell of a lot of people shot I mean he opened up with automatic weapons into a crowd of thousands of people to where

probably you know did any bullet hit the ground? Like there were so many people at this thing that every bullet probably hit somebody, you know, or more than one person. I don't know the power of the ballistics of the weapon, but, you know, it definitely like bullets could have went through one guy into the next person. I'm sure they did. A hundred percent. This guy, first of all, there's a, guy, first of all, this becomes a big gun control argument, which it should be, right? But one thing that we've got to really take into consideration is he had illegal guns.

These guns were illegal, I think, for 25 years. So this isn't, I don't know how much of this could have been helped by making it more illegal. Yeah, you know, that's always a debate. The first problem is what was going on yesterday when they say this is not the time to talk about guns. Of course it is. Yeah, of course. It's the exact time to talk about guns. And I'm not a gun guy in the sense that I'm not a gun owner, but I get it.

With guys who are into guns. I always compare it to my love of cars and bikes or, you know, anything mechanical or whatever. I understand it. But but the people most of the people I talk to who love guns don't have a problem with like registration. Certainly don't have a problem with education. Right. And and what I call common sense gun ownership. And there are some guns that I get it. You want there are some guns that, you know, and again, I'm not speaking with any expertise. But from the layman's point of view, it's like, why do you need this semi-automatic military style weapon in? You know, don't tell me you have it for hunting or anything else.

Like if there's a reason you want to collect it, just like if there's a reason you want to own a race car. Right. And somebody says, why do you need a car that does 200 miles an hour? Well, you may have a reason you want that race car, but you don't use it on the street. You can't take it, you know, onto the streets. And I think that should be that there should be some kind of rule with that kind of weapon. But here's the thing. It doesn't matter if there's a rule. There were plenty of rules. Yeah. This guy violated all the rules. This guy did. But I'm just talking about the general attitude towards sales. Just the idea that you can walk into a store and buy these weapons.

It should somehow be more difficult to, you know, and again, this is my opinion, right? But I think it should be more difficult to buy a weapon of that type. Yeah, well, these are all illegal weapons. This guy shot people with illegal weapons. Yeah, he converted them to fully automatic and fully automatic is illegal everywhere, right?

Here's what's fucked up about this guy. This guy didn't have a criminal record. He had no army training, no religious or political affiliate affiliations no one has any idea what his motives were he was wealthy he's a big-time high roller which is how he got this giant suite in vegas i mean it is fucking bizarre did you see his brother get interviewed yeah yeah and and it's well it's that's the thing about this. That's the thing about this kind of insanity. Right.

There is usually no outward like that. Like how many people are like this in this country that we don't know about? Yeah. You know what I mean? That have as particularly if you're wealthy, if you're wealthy, it's so much easier to hide it. Right. Because you may have a big house. Right.

You may have a big house, you may have a compound, you may have a, you know, a camp, a place you go camping in the woods that's actually stocked with, you know, a hundred weapons or something like that. I mean, the randomness of this, to me, that is the biggest horror. The worst thing about this to me is just the idea, like you went to a fucking concert, like that's all you did. You went to a concert in Vegas and you're never coming home. Your family's destroyed everything. And I mean, and, and that is the utter randomness of it that you can't control.

Well, that's what's terrifying about it. This, which is really strange to me. The definition of terrorist, nobody's calling this guy a terrorist. Like what do you have to be like political or religious to be a terrorist like how the fuck how is this guy not a terrorist yeah this is definitely

terror this is definitely terror because you know why it's terror because now are you going to go to a big event in vegas are you going to go to a big outdoor con you know vegas does these music festivals that's in front of these these. Right. Where someone could do something like this. And the pools. They have those giant EDM parties at the pools all summer that are literally surrounded by the tower of whatever hotel you're in. So that's why it's terror because now you have to be afraid to do that. Well, not only that, now they're going to have some sort of screening when you go into hotels, which by the way, why the fuck didn't they have them already? How I've

always thought this, like the airports are so stringent. Like you go through the airports, they check your dick. They literally will pat your dick. If you hit a random, you know, bing, I'm sorry, sir. We got to check your dick. You're random. And they literally put the back of their hand. It was just really odd to me that it's random. And they literally put the back of their hand, which was really odd to me, that it's okay to touch your dick with the back of your hand. It's like the less sensitive. Well, they get to smooth your dick down. I can't even grab it.

They get to smooth it down. Yeah. You know. But it's so weird. Like, it's okay, sir. I'm just using the back of my hand to touch your dick. They might have had them grabbing, and some guy was just like, I'm not grabbing a hard dick. Yeah. Like, there's, you know. was just like, I'm not grabbing a hard dick.

Yeah. I doubt it was them. They got a union. The other guy, like, I'm not getting my dick hard by some guy who's looking for a weapon. It's just weird that they can do that. But if you go through the airport, right, like airports, we've decided are places where terror exists, right? So you have, like, I have TSA Pre. Yeah, me too.

And I have, I'm a global entry guy. Global entry and all of that, yeah. And I have Clear. Yeah. So you could, Clear is the best. Clear is the best where it works. Yeah. You know, where it works.

Where they have it, rather. Yeah, where they have it. Yeah, you just put your fingers down. Bam. It's got a picture of you. You go right through. It takes two seconds, right? But that's just a place where we've decided

you have terror right and now are we going to decide that you have terror everywhere no i don't think so i mean for one thing i i'm i'm not buying into the hotel argument like there's a bigger issue here than the hotels and and the issue is the weapons and what can we do about the proliferation uh say it proliferation of weapons prol the proliferation of weapons? Proliferation. Proliferation of weapons. Yes. Sorry about that.

It's early. You start a word and you go, uh-oh, I'm too deep into this word. I got too deep into a word. Now there's no backing out. All the damn weapons. No, but that's the issue. The thing about hotels, though, and this being the United States, the privacy issue is huge, right? Your hotel room is basically your home away from home.

When do you get what are the privacy rules of checking what you bring into a hotel, what's in your hotel room? Remember the stoplight cameras, right? Yes. And they got sued and people got in trouble because they got that picture taken and the wrong person was in their car. Right. That chick wasn't his wife. Is that what it was? Yeah. Or this guy wasn't his husband. One guy sued because the picture was taken.

The woman wasn't his wife. They send the ticket to your house. Bam. Yeah, exactly. And he won the suit in the sense that there's a level of privacy that's expected in your car. Let me stop you there. Do you understand why it's illegal, though? Because it's a third party.

It's not actually even the government. They farmed it off. Right. So you have some other company that's sending you a ticket and charging you money for that. And everybody was like, well, you guys are hiring people to do this? Yeah, they're commissioning a place to write tickets. Which is illegal. But what they had to do, they had to re-aim the cameras to only hit the license plate.

But that's not true because I got one the other day. And you showed you? Yeah, they sent me a picture of me smiling. Well, it's not supposed to. I got a little cocky, tried to go right on red, and it flashed me. But the point being, in your hotel room, there's an expectation of privacy. And where is that line drawn? Well, it's going to have to be drawn in Vegas because people get freaky in Vegas.

Yeah. Right? The other big difference, and I'll tell you a Vegas story about that that's great I heard, but the other big difference is when you're on an airplane, you're trapped in that airplane. When you're in a hotel, like you can run, you know what I mean? You can run down the stairs. Can you really though? Compared to being in an airplane. Yeah, but I don't think it's a valid comparison, honestly. I mean, it's like you're still in a box. You're still in this big building. You're in a confined space, but I think it's

easier to escape. Now, the thing about Vegas, this guy told me, who was a security guy, he said, the thing about the cameras is you see who's with who. And there was one particular guy, he kept bringing transgender hookers to his room. And, like, they knew who he was. He was, like, a famous guy. And they were like, yeah, we could destroy this guy if we wanted. You know, we got, because they got cameras everywhere in vegas right they know who's coming upstairs to your room they know what room they're going so he's getting like super obvious transgender ones like yeah like the giant football player dude size 18 feet guys built

like you with dresses on so uh you know so i had to give up that hobby no i'm kidding i'm kidding that's the only thing from this podcast that's going to go out viral. We knew it. Well, here's another thing that is a giant issue that I haven't heard discussed at all. Mental health. I mean, this is really what this is all about. This is not, I mean, this is a gun issue in the sense that he used guns. But then is it a truck issue in Nice, France where that guy drove into those people?

I mean, is it I mean there's a ton of different ways to kill people Yeah, and I'm sure we're gonna see more of these fucked up ways in the future Yep, but the real issue is a mental health issue now This guy's dad was a psychopath. He was a serial bank robber. He spent eight years on the FBI's most wanted list. Here's the question, right? Like, is that genetic? Like, does that transfer over? Like, how does that work? It could be genetic or it could be that psychological thing of I want to outdo my dad, right? This guy could be, I mean, no, this guy's a millionaire, right? And so on. Like, so he's obviously a high achiever, but he could have that hole.

I'm not kidding. He could have that hole where he always wanted to do something bigger than his dad or he wanted some approval. You know what I mean? Some weird kind of approval thing. Yeah, I guess that's just speculation. Right. I mean, yeah, I mean, you could speculate, you know, a bunch. Our mental health issue, just the health issue in this country, that's a show unto itself, right? We don't take care of ourselves. We don't take care of people. We don't provide for the mental health problem. You look downtown in any city in America, wandering the streets homeless. You got schizophrenics and all kind of people.

And, you know, God forbid they got weapons. You know, who knows? Like you talk about the other ways. I'm sure there are attacks that we just don't hear about, you know, where some guy goes nuts with a knife or a broken bottle or whatever else. I mean, that's one of the big things that happens in places that have stricter gun control. And the argument would be that, hey, you know, that's safer for the people. It's easier to handle. There's, you know, more things that you can do. Some guy with a machine gun gunning down

all these people. But again, gun control is not really going to help this. This guy was using illegal guns. I mean, the issue at this point is that there's so many guns out there. Like, even if you made guns illegal, are we going to sweep? Are we going to go house to house? And if we do sweep and go house to house, man, people are going to resist that. Because for every one of these psychopaths that winds up shooting people and gunning someone down, there's going to be genuine, normal people that want a gun to protect their family. Maybe they live in a sketchy neighborhood, and then all of a sudden the government comes

along and says, well, now it's illegal for you to possess that gun. Well, then who has guns? People who are already criminals. See, I think the solution is in between. And I think this is another one where we get, you know, this is a problem we have, and I can't even say when it started, when you have the two sides and it's either or. So it's either, you know, no gun regulations or far too many gun regulations. And I think the solution is somewhere in between.

In my opinion, it's always been like, why can't we treat them like cars? Like when you buy a car, you register the car, right? So the government knows like Joe knows Joe has this car. Right. And then when you you have to have insurance in case something goes wrong with the car and you hurt somebody. And then if you sell the car to me, you tell the government, hey, I just sold the car to Alonzo. I'm no longer liable for this car. Alonzo is liable for this car. And I've always thought that would be the level of common sense gun registration. Well, here's another one that goes along with that. With guns, you don't really have to know how to use them.

This is one of the really fucked up things about guns. If you drive a car, you have to take tests. You have to pass. You have to understand the registration, the rules, rather. I mean, you have to go, and a guy has to sit next to you. You have to go through a driver's test. And I don't see why we can't do that with guns. You should absolutely have that with guns.

Where you have to go to a range and show you know like the safety of using a gun and how to shoot it. Yeah. You know, I don't see why we can't do that. And even if your family teaches you, right? They say like in a lot of places you grow up with guns and as a kid

your dad teaches you. Well, if your dad teaches you to drive, you still have to go to DMV and take the test. So it's like your dad, your mom, whoever, your uncle could teach you to shoot, but you still, there should be some, some level of testing to, to get an idea. Cause we have, you know, just a couple of weeks ago where you had a four-year-old in Florida who was looking in their grandmother's purse for candy and shot themselves. And it's like, Grandma, there's a safety issue with the gun. Like, you don't tell the kid to go get some candy when you know you have a gun. I think there's a nutty number, like 21 people a year killed in this country by armed toddlers. Yeah, yeah, I believe it.

I believe it. Find out what the number is. I think it's 21 people are shot to death by babies. Yeah, and the other thing is, and you brought it up, like how, okay, if we didn't have guns, then they'd be killing, you know, with knives or clubs or something. Like, just that idea that we have to have that discussion, like, well, what weapon are the mass killers going to use? That in itself is insane. Just the fact that we're like, yeah, we're going to have these mass killers. We got to have them working with different weapons.

I don't know on a mental health. I'm not even going to pretend to have the expertise to talk about what it is. But it's an issue that we don't spend money on. It's an issue not covered don't spend money on. It's an issue not covered by a lot of insurance. A lot of insurance doesn't cover any kind of mental health care. Here's the thing. Even if it does cover, I mean, a giant percentage of the people that commit these giant mass shootings are either on psychoactive medication or are having withdrawals from psychoactive medication.

So even if your insurance covers it, even if you're medicated by a doctor, there's a disassociative quality apparently with a lot of these antidepressants and antipsychotic medications that people take that with the right combination of biology, circumstances, genetics, whatever it is, people just can snap and they don't have an issue. I mean, what are the numbers of people that are on that stuff? A giant number. Right.

What are the numbers of people that actually wind up and go and do shootings? Much, much, much, much, much smaller number. But it's enough that if it happens once a year, like Orlando last year and then this year in Vegas, I mean, what the fuck? Again, we don't know why this guy did this. We have no idea if he was on anything. But what the fuck is it that we have to do to stop this stuff from happening? Well, I mean, I'm sure there are scientists who study it and all, but I can't imagine you can predict it.

People are getting shot by toddlers on a weekly basis this year. Jesus Christ. How many people? 13 toddlers killed themselves. 18 more more injured themselves 10 injured other people two killed other people that was in 2015 toddlers have killed at least shot at least 23 people this year jesus fucking christ 2016 Jesus fucking Christ. In May of 2016, so in five months. Oh, my God. Okay, so we cannot match that with an argument of toddler drivers having run over people. No. Well, irresponsible gun owners.

That is. And, again, that gets back to what you're saying, the education, like learn to own a gun safely to keep it somewhere where a toddler is not going to get to it. Well, everything, everything dangerous safely, you know, everything. And isn't it funny how, you know, we do kid-proof a house?

Mm-hmm. Like, you know, they have the plastic things that go into the electrical sockets and the poison and this and that. What about the gun? Eh, throw it in the candy drawer.

Put it under the pillow. Kid's never going to look there. Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of responsible gun owners. I don't mean to laugh, but I mean, I'm laughing at the ridiculous of it. And that is true. And I think the vast majority of gun owners are responsible. You know, it is another group that's painted with the broad brush, right? The few gun nuts, crazy, whatever they paint every NRA member

as being one of them. And that isn't true. You know, like I said, I know, I know people, people who like guns and they're not that, but the people who are not that have to accept the fact that there is a population that is that, you know what I mean? You can't say that they don't exist because they do exist. So a big part of this, I think like any other issue, Joe, we got to start telling each other the truth. You know what I mean? About what?

About these issues. Like we, everyone has their side, right? Or their tribe or their team. And they refuse to believe any truth, you know, any any negative truth about their team or whatever. You know what I mean? Like like like to say, well, like we're saying, like gun owners. OK, so there's responsible gun owners and then there's a few gun. I'm just use the term gun nuts and responsible gun owners have to accept the fact that there are some gun nuts.

Right. With the police, the vast majority of police are good, but the good police have to say, yeah, there are some bad cops too. You know what I mean? Like within any tribe, we're comics. We know there are some bad comics. I don't know if you know it, Joe, but I'm going to put it out there. I've heard of a few. But until we do that,

we can never have a real discussion, right? Because everybody just suddenly circles the wagons around their herd and like, no, no, no, not me. It's like, no, we're not saying all of you are bad, but let's admit within your group there is bad so we can work on that. Yeah. I've seen some tweets from some NRA supporters the last day and a half that are just fucking stunned me Where it just shut the fuck up man, right? Just realize what where this is the state of all this is right now and shut the fuck up and by the way There's a video that's going around that somebody's put up about me talking about gun control is not a recent video I don't know when it's from but people are putting it up now

about me destroying the gun control argument. It would be very insensitive for me to do that and to put that up right now, and I didn't. It had nothing to do with it. I don't know when it was. I think it was from a year or so ago. But the idea that these people, these NRA supporters, would go and tweet these pro-gun messages and get crazy with it now, is exactly what you're saying. They're digging their heels in.

They're supporting their team. Yeah, and as many people have been saying, and it is a sad truth, look, if we didn't wake up after Sandy Hook, then, you know, if when 20, what was it, 21 kids were shot, and people denied that it happened. Oh, that didn't even happen and all that. That's the crazy one. I mean, they're doing that now. People are calling this a false flag.

Right. So if that didn't wake us up, then, you know, 58 people at a music concert, I hate to say it, but it's like it's not going to wake us up. You know, I have a thing. Well, wait a minute. What does waking us up mean? You know, I mean. Wake us up to the point of take some action. Well, what's the action? President Alonzo, what would you do?

The well, to start with, we have to have the conversation. We have to have the conversation about there. Just like we just talked about. There is a necessary. It is necessary to change our gun laws. Our gun laws are too lax. That's the first thing. Then what we need to do, we need to come up with a system just like we have with cars or anything else dangerous where you have to be trained to use it.

You have to register whatever it is with the government and you have to have liability insurance. it is with the government and you have to have liability insurance and that information transfers, like the big loophole is the gun shows, right? Where you go to the gun show and you could just sell a gun to another person. You can do that. Is that still the case? Yeah. In a lot of states, that's still the case. You can do that with a car, right?

I can sell you my car through Craigslist, but I'm still going to go put in that uh liability thing otherwise i'm liable for what you do with the car like i protect myself by reporting it even though i sold it to you party to party yeah so so if yeah if i'm in charge we're gonna we're gonna add those things we're gonna get a we're gonna get a handle on these guns. We're going to start tracking how many they are, where they are. We're going to collect them. I think it was Australia and some other places that had those things where, look, if you own an illegal weapon, like a fully automatic weapon or whatever makes it illegal, you can turn it in. Maybe there's payment or maybe it's just no questions asked. Just turn it in and we'll destroy it.

Well, what happened in Australia is they had a mass shooting and then they put their foot down and they said no more. Right. Australia just banned them all together. Well, they didn't totally ban them. You could still use a rifle to hunt. But the way we have this sort of fast and loose, there's very few countries in the world that have this kind of fast and loose gun policy.

I think. Yeah, we still have the wild west mentality well we have a freedom mentality which well bill o'reilly did a fucking had a post today where he's talking about that this is the cost of freedom freedom yeah you fucking crazy no it's not oh it's not crazy old dickhead and i'll give you an example joe like i grew up in New York City. Like, guns have been illegal in New York City for a long time. Now, there are guns in New York City, but not as many as people think, you know, because what happens is when you make it illegal, then the average person, they don't go out of their way to get a gun. They're like, no, I'm not going to have one. Yeah, are criminals going to have guns?

Yes, criminals are always going to have guns. But, you know, the thing about the good guy shooting the bad guy, it doesn't happen that often. And my personal belief on this is because in that moment, it takes a lot to shoot somebody. It just happened the other day. It just happened the other day. I'm not saying it doesn't happen. There was an active shooter somewhere that was taken out by a good guy gun owner. It can happen happen you're right it doesn't happen everywhere all the time but it can happen and a lot of people get their guns

stolen or taken away because in that moment they can't use it sure and the criminal he ain't got nothing to lose he's already a criminal you know what i mean but it's also probably used to violence yeah a lot of people are not used to violence there's a lot of soft people out there they just they don't know what to do if the shit hits the fan in any way shape or form they just don't know how to handle pressure yeah and and it's you know that happens and then they so they buy a gun to protect themselves but they're in no way equipped to use it yeah yeah well there's a lot of that they're hoping that they can use it or to scare people off or something like that, but most likely, yeah, they're not going to be able to do it. But, you know, then there's people that say, well, that's them. I want the option

because I will be able to figure it out, you know, because I'm not a pussy or I'm not. Then there's a legal way to get one. Then, you know, you do what it takes to, and you register it. And again, most gun owners that I know, and I may be wrong because it's not like I'm deep in the gun culture. So I'm not speaking with that expertise. I'm just talking about of the people I know who have guns, who are into guns and shooting. I only have one friend who's like doesn't want to register his guns or anything like that. Most of them I know they're fine with having their gun registered. What is the one friend's argument?

I couldn't even tell you. I honestly couldn't. Most of them I know they're fine with having their gun registered. What is the one friend's argument? I couldn't even tell you. I honestly couldn't tell you. I love him. I love him. He's just crazy. But when it comes to guns, he's got a little, he's got some of that paranoia. He's got some of that the government's out to get me. Oh, the government. Paranoia. And then, you know, his thing with we were talking about

and I know it's the wrong term, but it's the common term, assault weapons, assault type weapons, right? know it's the wrong term, but it's the common term, assault weapons, assault type weapons, right? And he said like, yeah, well, what if there's a home invasion? That's what they use. And I was like, ain't nobody invading your broke ass home. Unless they want to get your guns. You know what I mean?

You got, you know, you're an average American with a two bedroom in the suburbs. Ain't nobody invading your shit. You ain't got a safe. If you were selling crack, you might want to worry. You might have some cash around the house. Even if you were a good marijuana distributor, there'd be a bunch of cash you're not allowed to put in the bank. But you, ain't nobody invading your house. Yeah.

Yeah, everybody wants to be John Wick. Yeah. Yeah. Fucking take out a whole crew of people, break it in your house. Flipping people over staircases and shit. John Wick's badass. I love John Wick.

I ain't gonna lie. I love those fucking movies. I ain't gonna lie. I love John Wick. My all-time favorite shoot-em-up. Ain't nobody sitting around talking about John Wick. When you meet John Wick, your shit is over. That's Keanu Reeves' best role.

Oh, man. Fuck the Matrix. That's Keanu Reeves' best role. Oh, man. Fuck the Matrix. That scene when the gangster calls John Leguizamo and is like, did you hit my son? Yeah. Why?

He stole John Wick's car and killed his dog. Thank you. Yeah. That's a great movie. Both of them are great. I enjoyed the second one, too. They're just silly, preposterous, unrealistic, but awesome. I mean, if you like that sort of John Woo type violence,

just off the charts, ridiculous gun violence, but it's cartoonish and comic book-like. Right, it's not real. And Keanu plays it, he's so good at it, he plays it perfectly. But just like any other movie, the bad guys can't shoot.

Right. Right? So there's 25 guys shooting at him. Right. One of them might wing him. Right. Wing him. Graze his shoulder.

They always get, like, shot in the shoulder a little bit. Yeah. I don't, you know, I don't know what the argument is for not registering guns that makes sense. Because, I mean, unless you just want a world where everybody's just packing like there's like a few states where you have uh concealed and even open carry that you're just allowed right allowed to have a gun on your hip and just walk everywhere or they have the test but it's like um like it used to be here with traffic school where you just pay the guy and he gives you the certificate that you went.

They do these tests for carrying concealed, but it's like you can do it online. It's crazy. That's crazy. Well, you can do in Texas, you can do your hunting safety certificate online. Yeah. There's a couple places where you can do it. Most of the places you have to go. certificate online yeah there's a couple places where you can do most places you have to go and for a hunter safety certificate you have to sit down through i think it's eight hours of class

and go through all the stuff then you have to take a test and you have to understand things you have to know does it does it transfer from one state to the other like in other words you're if you're licensed to hunt in texas that's good for some other states yeah if you have a hunter safety certificate in texas it's it, I think, in almost every state. But, I mean, that's a good thing. It's a good thing to have some knowledge of what's safety. It's called the hunter safety thing. It's not even about knowing how to hunt.

It's just about knowing how to not get shot or shoot yourself or shoot someone else and how a gun works and how all various weapons, bows and arrows, crossbows and stuff work. You don't have to do any of that to get a gun, though. I mean, if you just had to go through an eight-hour course to get a gun, how many less people would have guns? If you had to pass an eight-hour course to legally have a gun, how many fewer people would have guns? It would probably be like 30% of the people that have guns now. Well, and also, you know, they're saying

this is the wrong time to politicize it, which, yeah, it is. It's time for a politician to stand up to the NRA. It's not politicized because every politician is afraid to say we need to register all the guns because the NRA is going to attack their whole lobby

machine. But it's going to take a politician who has the balls to say hey wait a minute i can get as many people following me like in other words challenge the nra and get as many people backing you as the nra has the best way to do it for these people is to not say shit when they don't say shit then they don't get the nra right that's what i'm saying they're afraid they're afraid right now the politicians who know better who absolutely know better who know that our current situation is ridiculous and our system is broken in in the gun laws none of them will stand up and say it yeah no you accept the ones that the nra already hates right you know who have bernie sanders type

characters yeah yeah i mean there's again it's the team thing right yeah yeah they're supporting the left they're supporting the right everybody meets in the middle and they yell at each other yeah and and this is uh you know this is not a left right it this is just a it's another one of those common sense issues where we don't have common sense like i i joke sometimes on stage like i I'm going to Canada next week, I'm doing a tour and I had this joke, like, can you explain it to a Canadian? Like that should be the test for what's sane. Can you explain it to a Canadian? I was doing it regarding healthcare, like try to explain to a Canadian why we've demonized healthcare, why we want to shut down the health

and you do, you can't make meaning that they meaning that they're anti-Obamacare. So rather than look for a compromise or fix the system, just shut it down because it's called Obamacare. Like just the anger at the name, like that famous night that Kimmel did where it was like, are you against Obamacare? I hate Obamacare. What about the Affordable Care Act? Oh, I like that. It's the same thing. Exactly. And he did a man on the street. And that's what,

you know, so many people were. And that's what I mean by demonize. You attach this name to it. So people just are anti just based on that without looking at any rather than saying, OK, like maybe this part of like the no pre-existence part of the health care plan, that's a good idea. So we're going to keep that. But maybe the cost of this is a bad idea. So we're going to change that. You know what I mean? And working to fix it. The gun issue is the same way. There's certain freedoms that I understand and, you know, the right to bear arms and so on. And again, it was written in a completely different time you know so we need to update that right taking into account everything that we deal with today well one step at a time if you're going to

talk about the affordable care act if you're going to talk about health care at all you're going to talk about what are the real issues like what what are the root causes of diseases you know and a big part of the root causes of diseases are how people eat in this country oh yeah i mean if people eat poorly and they consume a lot of refined carbohydrates and a big part of the root causes of diseases are how people eat in this country. Oh, yeah. And if people eat poorly and they consume a lot of refined carbohydrates and a lot of processed sugars and their diet is filled with bullshit and they're drinking every day and they're smoking cigarettes, like, man, if you want to make those choices with your life, you are going to get diseases. It's almost inexorable. Right.

And then you start battling the corporations and you know big food and stuff like that because you know why is it so much cheaper to eat poorly but just think well that's because it's cheaper to produce but think about the the the actual physical numbers of people that die every year from heart disease oh absolutely it's fucking stunning because you know look at the amount of of fast food we consume. And it's like fast food isn't evil. There's times when, you know, you're on the run and you want to grab a burger, you want to grab fries, or it's just good.

As long as it's not your whole diet. That's okay. Right. But it can't be the only thing you eat all the time. You saw Supersize Me, right? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it ain't good.

No. It's not good to eat just constant bullshit right well you can't eat that much salt and grease all the time and not have you know anything you do there's a penalty you know salt's not bad for you you know that but in excess yeah it's all bullshit that's that whole thing that about salt being bad for you and salt raising high blood pressure and all that stuff that was kind of concocted by one doctor and ran with. There's really very little evidence about that. I don't know.

I'm black, Joe. They told us not to eat salt. Yeah, I know. They tell you not to eat fatty foods either. But meanwhile, it's refined carbohydrates that are the real issue, apparently. Yeah, there's sugar. And everything is in sugar, and we are addicted. We are sugar addicts.

Sugar, corn syrup. And then there's also like all these studies that talk to you about red meat. But when you look at the studies about red meat and you look at the criticisms of studies, like people that eat red meat get more cancer. Well, the real criticism of those studies is what are you eating with the red meat?

Right. Because are you eating like lean, like grass-fed bison with like asparagus and broccoli? I bet you're pretty fucking healthy if you're doing that. The real issue is are you eating burgers? They don't differentiate between the two. with like asparagus and broccoli, I bet you're pretty fucking healthy if you're doing that. The real issue is, are you eating burgers? They don't differentiate between the two.

When you talk about people that eat red meat five times a week and the correlation between cancer, they're literally not even taking into consideration what they eat with that red meat. Are they eating with white bread? Are they eating with sugary soda? This again, Joe, this is what we're talking about the same thing

because it's like the common sense argument is eliminated because the common sense argument is quiet. So you have the loud, the yelling argument of, you know, the meat lobby versus whoever, whoever's the anti-meat people. And so, you know what I mean? And the common sense is in between. Like you said, there's healthy ways to eat meat or maybe you don't eat it every with every meal or not every day. You mix it up or something like that. It's not meat, but meat is something that human beings have eaten forever. But when I say healthy ways to eat meat, when I say healthy ways to eat meat, I mean what you're saying, what you eat around it, how is it prepared? Right. And so on. That can be the difference between healthy and unhealthy.

You know, chicken, you know, is supposed to be good for it. But, you know, fried chicken, deep fried chicken that's been sitting in the grease for X number of hours waiting for you to come pick it up. Covered in flour. Right. Exactly. It's not you know that is not a healthy way to eat chicken delicious supersize me too you'll never look at chicken the same way again he's doing this take that down he's don't ruin chicken you know what

i have an issue with him though he did a show where he was um he did like 30 days is that was that the name of his show and one of the things that he did was on hormone replacement, like testosterone replacement and things along those lines. But I know for a fact that the producers tried to go to legitimate doctors, and the doctors turned them down because they said, this is not how you do it. You don't do anything like that over 30 days. Hold on a second. So what he did for that show is he went to a quack, and this quack shot him up with testosterone. Not him, the guy on the show that he went to a quack and this quack shot him up with testosterone not him the guy on the show that he uses a study case and they shot this guy up with testosterone the guy started

getting aggressive and yelling at his kids and his wife was like i like you chubby i'm chubby we're hopefully we have a chubby family i'm like this is the dumbest fucking example of the science behind manipulating your hormones like you would the way you're supposed to do it is first address your diet, number one. You take your diet into consideration. Like what are you eating? Are you getting these gigantic insulin spikes all day? Like your hormone levels are completely dependent upon what kind of food you consume. So what they would do in a healthy doctor, the doctor that I was using,

I don't want to say his name, but what he would do is for like the first couple months, the first thing you would do is change your diet. The first thing you would do is don't eat late at night. The first thing you would do is eat healthy food. And they would literally check your blood nutrition levels and say, well, you're low on niacin. You're low on vitamin D. You're low on vitamin B. You're going to add these to your diet. Let's see what your hormone levels are like then. Oh, look, we have this big spike.

Now we have a healthy baseline. Now we've done this for four or five months. Now we know where you're at and what you need. And they didn't do that. They just shot him up with some shit. So that guy and his show, I've had problems with him ever since then. I'm like, why would you, like, that's sensationalism. That's bullshit.

Like, what you've done is you put together a show where you've had a terrible representation of something that millions of people engage in, hormone replacement. Well, even in supersize me, even if you ate at McDonald's, you wouldn't eat as much as he did. Right. You wouldn't supersize every meal. Well, that was the deal, though. He said if they offered him supersized, he was going to say yes.

But they always do. Yeah. They always offer to upsize you. Yeah. But then I've heard people also say they've done the same thing. They've done that supersize me diet and tried it for 30 days, and they didn't have nearly the negative responses. And they thought that they might have sensationalized that as well they probably did i mean it's tv

right you got a sensationalized in that case and yeah and it's also you know you talk about hormones and things like that different people react to things different ways you know their their bodies some people's body and and you you know, it drives you crazy, right? That person you know that eats junk food all the time but has this crazy metabolism and they never gain weight. Twinkie diet helps nutrition professor lose 27 pounds. There you go. Yeah. Pull this up.

He did it just to prove the calories in, calories out thing, but there's a caveat in this too that says it doesn't have any hormone stuff. Hold on. Go down. Let me see it from the top. For 10 weeks, Mark Howe, professor of nutrition at Kansas State University, ate one of these sugary cakeettes every three hours instead of meals to add variety to his steady stream of Hostess and Little Debbie snacks.

Howe munched on Doritos chips, sugary cereal, and Oreos too. His premise that in weight loss, pure calorie counting is what matters most, not the nutritional value of the food. The premise held up on his convenience store diet. He shed 27 pounds in two months. But here's the thing. What is his body fat? Like what's his body composition? Stop.

Go back. See, like he shed 27 pounds in two months that doesn't mean anything Like if you lost all of your muscle and gained fat and you lost I mean you got to understand like if you're not taking in any protein Your body's not gonna be able to maintain muscle mass now if your body's not gonna maintain muscle mass You're gonna have less see see his body fat mass index went from 28.8, considered overweight, to 24.9, which is normal. He now weighs 174 pounds. Hmm.

His bad cholesterol, LDL, dropped 20%, and his good cholesterol, HDL, increased by 20%. He reduced the level of triglycerides, which are a form of fat, by 39%. That's where the head scratching comes from, Hobbes says. What does that mean? Does it mean I'm healthier? Does it mean how we define health from a biological standpoint, that we're missing something? Despite his temporary success, he does not recommend it. Look at the next, look, two-thirds of his total intake.

Read that one. Yeah. He also, oh, wait a minute. He also took a multivitamin pill and drank a protein shake daily. And he ate vegetables. Typically a can of green beans or three or four celery stalks. All right. Well, that's a stupid study. Right. Because then he's replacing the protein and vitamins. Yeah. So he's not living on Twinkies and- Yeah, that's bullshit.

And Doritos yeah, if you just did that without the without the protein and what I would have been a different result But people love I mean that's why we're reading it right we're reading it because he got a sensational result and and the way it was written There's the sensational part was the first part of the article of course And you had to go way down before you got to the part about eating vegetables and drinking a protein shake. Don't eat Little Debbie's cakes all day, folks. Don't do that. You'll get fucked up.

If you've learned anything today, you cannot live on Twinkies. But every now and then, have a fucking Twinkie. You know, I believe everything in moderation, including moderation. That's what I believe. I think that's an Oscar Wilde quote. Yeah. I think believe everything in moderation, including moderation. That's what I believe. I think that's an Oscar Wilde quote. I think it's a great quote because I think that's good. I mean, even just have some bullshit every now and then. Have a fucking Big Mac. You know, that people have the cheat day or whatever. And yeah, and you got to, it's because you're human. You're human and you're going to have it. And some of it's delicious. It's fun.

It's fun to eat a waffle smothered in maple syrup. It's fun. It's fun every now and then to go to fucking Waffle House. You ever go to Waffle Houses on the road? Of course. I've worked the South. What are you kidding? They're great.

Waffle House. Have you ever been to Waffle House when they're on both sides of the freeway? So no matter which ramp you come off, you don't have to turn? Isn't that funny that the south has waffle houses it's like the west has in and out the south has waffle house you know they had they put it in and out in dallas and they had lines around the block for days for days people like people had never seen a fucking cheeseburger before and you know who was mad who what a burger oh yeah because that's texas's texas's burger chain and step your fucking game out came

in and they were like wait a minute everyone's lining up for that california liberal burger yeah well if you're the unknown comic and you're playing at a club and chris rock is at the fucking arena next door you can't get pissed off someone's got a better product than you let me let me speak from experience to that joe let me speak from experience i was booked at what's it called the club 29 or whatever that casino just past palm springs I don't know if you've ever worked out there. But anyway, it's one of those big Indian casinos. And I had never worked this place before. So I'm booked to work the comedy club inside. Guess who's working the arena behind the hotel? Kevin Hart. Chris Rock. Chris Rock. Chris Rock. And I was like, even I want to go to the Chris Rock show.

You know what I mean? It's like, really, your idea is to put me and Chris on it the same week? You couldn't think of some other comic? When was this? This was about four years ago. But it was just one of those things, you know, his pictures on the gambling tables, you know how they do that and everything. I was like, I want to go to the Chris Rock show.

There were people at my show. I'm like, why are you here? Why don't we all just go out and watch Chris? Yeah. Waterburgers, step your game up. The burgers are okay. Waterburgers okay. Waterburgers okay. In-N-Out better. In-N-Out is way better.

I'll tell you what, though. Five Guys fucks with In-N-Out better In-N-Out is way better I'll tell you what though Five Guys fucks with In-N-Out Five Guys got game You got Five Guys Right next to In-N-Out You go hmm Five Guys has fucking jalapenos They put jalapenos on those burgers

They have fries Like real fries You got Five Guys Next to In-N-Out Across the street from Water Burger You got America damn it Yeah you got America You know what Five Guys fucks up?

They fuck up where they don't have shakes. They don't go with shakes. They don't have shakes. No. But their burgers are goddamn good. Burgers are good. Their fries are good. Fries are good.

A lot of potatoes. Yeah, their potatoes are better. Yeah. They seem to have a better idea of what a fry is. And then they have Cajun fries. Yeah. Ooh, yeah. Yeah, no, I'm dumb.

Five Guys. Well, that's why they're in the game. What about us? They're in the game. What about steak and shake? What do you think of that? Steak and shake would suck my dick. I said it right here. What about the peanuts? The peanuts at Five Guys.

Peanuts are fine. How do you feel about those? Yeah, peanuts are bad. They're there if you're that hungry. If you're that hungry, there's nothing wrong with peanuts unless you've got a peanut allergy, of course. Which is another thing we're talking about, how different people react to different things. The peanut allergy is always like the best argument. This is the new thing.

And I've only heard this recently. Actually, this year is the first time I heard it where they're like, you can't have anything peanut related on an airplane because a passenger has a severe peanut allergy. Yeah. Well, some people. I haven't heard that until this year. Well, I've heard it. When you crack open a peanut, you know that dust that kind of goes in the air? That shit kills people.

Wow. Which is nuts. Yeah. Imagine if you didn't like somebody, you got right up to them and just, like some CIA shit, just crack it in their face.

That would be some CSI shit. Like, they'd have to figure out how you killed him. Who opened the peanut? Yeah, you know, I was thinking this is a terrible thought, but I was thinking this

about Tom Petty. I was like, I wonder if Tom Petty heard the news about Vegas and had a fucking heart attack. Can you imagine if that guy killed Tom Petty from a distance? Could happen. How did Tom Petty have a heart attack? Did he know?

I mean, what time was his heart attack? Was it Sunday night, or was it Sunday day? And how old was he? 66, man. That ain't old. That's not real old. Yeah. 66, Stallone was still fucking kicking ass in action movies. Yeah.

He still is. I think Liam Neeson was taken the second time at 66, right? Yeah. I'm just thinking, if I'm a thug, I can't let a 70-year-old whip my ass. You know what I'm saying? There's a certain age to where it's like, no, man, I don't care how long you've been fighting, what training you have. Listen, old man, I'm in my thug prime.

Who's like the oldest guy who legitimately makes sense as like a stone-cold killer in a movie? Was it Bronson? Well, Charles Bronson in Death Wish, he was already like fat Charles Bronson. Yeah. He got in like the chubby face and he couldn't take his suit off. He'd go back to the hard times Bronson who was like 50. Right. He was in his 50s.

Shredded. Shredded. I'm trying to think, is anyone in their 60s legitimate to whip your ass? Like physically. Not shoot you, but... George Foreman would fuck you up. Yeah, well, he's a puncher. Yeah, George Foreman's probably 60 years old.

I bet he'll fuck you up. But Foreman ain't, you know... He's going to fight Steven Seagal. What? Did he call out Steven Seagal just yet? Who? George Foreman. What?

Yeah. Get the fuck out of here. Oh, after Seagal's craziness? What was Seagal talking crazy about? You can do anything you want. Ten rounds. Something like that. Hold on. That is so ridiculously stupid of was seagal talking crazy about you can do anything you want 10 rounds something like that that is so ridiculously stupid if steven seagal because all you'd have to do is pour water on his head and that black shit would just run down into his eyes and he wouldn't be

able to see what does it say george foreman just challenged steven seagal to a no holds barred fight boy that would be a goddamn disaster. 68-year-old boxing legend used Twitter to challenge 65-year-old action movie star to a 10-round fight. I'd bet a 68-year-old former. A hundred million dollars. I'd bet every fucking penny. A 68-year-old former versus 65-year-old Seagal. Yeah, I'd bet on former. I'd challenge you one-on-one.

I use boxing. You can use whatever. 10 rounds in Vegas. No weapons. Hand-to-hand only. That would be a fucking disaster. First of all, George Foreman is so big that he had this

shell defense that he adopted later in his career. Yeah, yeah. Where he would curl up. And he was so big. There was so much arm there. You're not hitting anything. You hit his stomach. Good luck with all that. You're not going to hurt him to the body. And then he's got these hands that are literally like canned hams.

And he'd just thump. He would just jab people into a coma. Did you see that guy? I think he's playing for the Milwaukee Bucks. His hands surround the basketball. Did you see that? He literally, it's like a softball in his hands.

There's people that are getting bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger. I mean, go back to like Jack Johnson, who was a giant when he won the heavyweight championship. He was only 6'2". Right. He wasn't even a big guy, you know? My big hand moment earlier this year, I did a show and- Whoa, look at that guy's hands.

Yeah. Show him around the basketball if you have that picture. That looks cartoonish. That doesn't even look real. That guy must have a dick like a palm tree. I'm telling you. Jesus Christ. Holy shit, it's two feet from his middle finger to the base of his hand.

That's insane. Is that bitches? Yes. Yeah. Yes. Or centimeters. I met Jerry Rice. Oh, they're fucking with us with the centimeters.

Goddamn communists. My hand is the same size as Jerry Rice's. Yeah, that makes sense. So I got that going for me. Whoa, look at that. Yeah, there it is. Look at that. Well, how old is he then?

He's in high school then, it looks like. Jesus Christ. Wow. He's a big freak. They call him the Greek freak. Yeah, the Greek freak. He's amazing. Is he Greek?

Yeah. Giannis Antetokounmpo. Whoa, that's a name. Oh, and he's a hell of a ball player. Look at that name. Antetokounmpo. That's why they call him the Greek freak. Antetokounmpo.

How do you say that? Antetokounmpo. Antetokounmpo. Antetokounmpo. Antetokounmpo. Antetokounmpo. So he's from Greece Yeah

Interesting What if that guy gets a hold of a Gabrielle Reese She's already married But someone along those lines A large woman Like the woman from Game of Thrones That giant bitch Gets a hold of her

Shoots some super sperm in there Makes some giant babies The next generation is going to be a hell of her, shoots some super sperm in there, makes some giant babies. And the next generation's going to be a hell of a... I mean, they've been doing that with animals forever. What sport would that kid go into? Any sport he wants. Yeah, pretty much. Whatever fucking sport he wants.

Everybody get out of the way. What about Aaron Judge, 6'7", 280, playing baseball? You see how the bat looks in his hand? The bat looks like a little twig, like he's swinging a kid's bat. Well, you're seeing that, though. That's one thing that's interesting. Like, that like that guy in the past might have gone into football yeah but now guys are looking at football and like fuck that i don't blame them i don't blame

them at all there's guys that are retiring at 24 25 years old why am i going to have a three-year career with possible concussion damage and everything else when I could play baseball or basketball for 10 years and leave with $100 million. And just fuck everything that moves. Yeah. They did a study on former basketball players or former football players, rather, and 111 players, 110 of them had CTE. Jeez.

110 out of 111. Yeah. There's the guy who was the doctor behind that movie Concussion. He was recently talking about O.J. Simpson because O.J. Simpson was released and he's like there's a 100% chance that guy has CTE. And they've even said that O.J.

if the trial was today his doctor said that he would introduce CTE as a defense. Which is crazy because then you have to say he's guilty. The defense is always I say he did it. Because the defense is always, I didn't do it. Until he wrote a book, How I Did It.

Yeah, If I Did It. That was the book. Yeah, I know. And if is in tiny little red marks. And I did it. I watched the Cuba Gooding show last night. The FX show. I'd never seen it.

Oh, you'd never seen it? The People vs. O.J. Simpson. Oh, it was great. It was great. It was weird. Yeah, great show. Yeah, it was a weird watch, man. Did you revisit everything? I'd never seen it. Oh, you'd never seen it? The People vs. O.J. Simpson. Oh, it was great. It was a great show. Yeah, it was a weird watch, man. Did you revisit everything? I said it

the night when O.J. got out. It's like, just go away. Just go somewhere. Be quiet. Don't say anything. Play golf and keep your mouth shut. He can't do that, though. He's not going to and he can't. He's addicted to love. He's addicted to people liking him.

If he goes to Florida, there's plenty of fucking stupid people in Florida that will take him right in. Or he's going back to jail. He's going to do something stupid and violate his parole. Do you think he'll do that, though, at seven years old or whatever he is? Well, if he does anything other than shut up, he's either going to die or go back to jail. You know what I mean? Like, there's no positive that's going to come out of him making public appearances, you know, writing a book, going on a talk show circuit. Like, no.

Like, you're 70 years old. Live out the last 10, 15, 20 years, whatever you got. Just live it. There's money somewhere, right? Because Florida, they couldn't take his money. That's why he moved there. So he's got money somewhere.

Just quietly fade away. People might recognize you when you go down to play bingo at the home. You want to play bingo? Just wave. Bang some old broads. You know, but yeah,

there's no, I don't think there's any way, there's no positive public appearance. No. That OJ could make. No, the attorney general, I think it was, Florida, was saying that she didn't want him hopping around her state playing golf, which is, by the way, it's not your state, honey. Yeah. Just let you know. You know, it's fucking. Well, it is in the sense that she's the top cop and she can prosecute him for any made-up shit she wants yeah but you can't

do that that's not america see when someone gets a fucking release right you're released you're on parole you're released from prison you can't just target someone because they're famous and they've been released like you you're dealing with a million fucking murderers are getting out every day you're dealing i'm not a million obviously but you're dealing with a million fucking murderers are getting out every day. You're dealing, I'm not a million, obviously, but you're dealing with a shit ton of people that were armed robbers and have committed assault and rape. They're getting out all the time. But again, Joe, you're talking about, and we were talking about this earlier, theoretical versus reality.

Right. In theory, this is the United States of America and you have freedoms and they can't do that to you. In reality, hell yeah, they can do it. Because it's like, if they follow you around, right? If a cop followed you all day, every day, you would break the law. You think so? Yeah, you don't know how.

It might be jaywalking. I'd hire a driver. It might be speeding. It might be whatever. You know what I mean? But you would do something that would violate some statute that you didn't know about. Maybe you would. You might be, well.

Maybe you. You know, I got that whole driving while black thing going for me. Well, you're also a crazy motorcycle rider. That's true. I got that. I need to ask you this because we brought this up the last time. Who was it on the podcast? We were talking about a bike that you had.

It was with Bert. I couldn't remember the bike that you had, but you had some crazy big, giant, wide Japanese super bike that was like a cruiser. It's Triumph. It's called the Triumph Rocket 3. Is that a Triumph? Yeah. That's the one I'm talking about? It's a 2.3 liter motorcycle.

But is this- Yeah, so the engine is bigger than a lot of car engines. I'm confused then. No, the bike itself is big. But this isn't the bike I'm talking about. No, no, no. It was from a long time ago, man. It's from like 10 years ago you had a bike.

You had this crazy wide bike that was a Japanese bike. Maybe it was a Suzuki Hayabusa? No, no, no. It wasn't one of those Rice Rocket bikes. Was it my Ducati? I had a custom Ducati. No, it was a Japanese bike. It was Japanese.

But it was a big-ass cruiser. It was one of those. Oh, I know what you're talking about. You're talking about, it's called the Valkyrie Rune. R-U-N-E. Yes, that's it. Oh, yeah, I remember that. Yeah, as a matter of fact, that's what I had before the Triumph Rocket.

Yes, I couldn't remember the name of that. Oh, man, good recall, Joe. Yeah, that bike was one of a kind. That thing looked like a spaceship, like you were in that Tron movie. You know what? That's it. There it is. No, that's not it.

No, that ain't it? No, that's the Triumph. That's a Valkyrie, but look up R-U-N-E, Rune. So there's a different Valkyrie than there's a Valkyrie Rune? Yeah, the Valkyrie Rune was a custom version they made. Was it a Honda? Yeah, it was a Honda. I think they made it.

Yeah, that was it right there. That's it. Yeah. You had that. I remember. Yeah, it was a Honda. I think they made it. Yeah, that was it right there. That's it. Yeah. You had that. I remember. Yeah, I had that. That bike was bad. Why didn't you bring it?

Did you bring it to the factory or something? Yeah, yeah. I saw that thing and I was like, what the fuck is this? Part of why I got rid of that bike, Joe, I'll be honest, polishing that thing. That thing had more chrome in more places. I'm telling you. Look at the size of it. Everything on that bike

was chromed. That's beautiful. The engine, the entire front end. And I was like, man, I can't spend all day cleaning this thing.

It was a great bike though. But it seems like a bike where if you accidentally laid it down, it would take forever to get that thing back up. Yeah, it was a heavy bike. About 800 pounds.

800 pounds 800 Beautiful, you know, you know who bought a group of those who Clooney George Clooney Clooney bought six of them Why for him and his buddies? Yes for him and his buddies to ride he bought six of god. Yeah, is this you know? I was like, you know fat ass like that. Yeah, look how cool that paint job is on that thing Yeah, he did that that's custom paint that no do job is on that thing. Yeah, he did that paint. That's custom paint. Now, do they still make that thing? No, they only made it for one year.

What? It was like a limited release. They did it for one year. It must have been stupid fast. It was pretty fast. Yeah, it was pretty fast. For a cruiser, it was very fast. Now, are those comfortable to ride?

Is that like the idea behind them? Yeah, it's comfortable. Because I'm a pussy. I don't fuck with bikes. Right now, I have an Indian Chieftain, right? And this is my first like American V-twin kind of cruiser. And I've never been that guy. Like, you know, I've never had a Harley or anything.

But I saw this bike at the dealer. And it was just absolutely beautiful. And I rode it. And I guess I'm getting older. There was something about leaning back with my feet forward and the stereo playing. And I was like, oh, yeah. Yeah, I like this shit. I remember leaning forward like being a jockey and going fast.

And now I'm like, nah, this is me. You like cruising now. I like cruising. I like touring. I like going on trips, traveling. That's it right there? Yeah, the red one up in the top middle. Ooh, that's you?

Yeah, that's it. Oh, man, look at that thing. Yeah, I got it outside. When we're done, I'll show it to you. And do you, those bags in the back, do you keep stuff in those things? What do you keep? Books. Yeah, you can carry books.

What do you keep in there? That's what I use for whatever. You know what you keep in there? Her purse. Wow, that's right. Because this guy told me that, they call those baggers, that style of bike. And he said, man, chicks love baggers. And he ain't kidding.

They put their stuff in there. They love it. They love it. But yeah, she can bring her shit. Oh, let me put my purse back here. Yep. Now, that's a big cruiser, right? Yeah.

Is that a loud bike? No. No, it's not loud. It'll be a little louder next year. I'm going to put pipes on it this winter. Oh, you're getting radical. But I'm not going crazy like straight pipes that you know set off car alarms yeah and now i just a little little bit louder now when you have a bike like that like the idea is that like they're

slower right but they're more comfortable is that the idea yeah you know what that bike is man that bike is sunset strip and pch ah just cruising you know yeah that's that's what that bike is, man? That bike is Sunset Strip and PCH. Ah, just cruising. You know? Yeah. Looking good. Yeah, that's what that is. Comfortable, you look good, you got a stereo, and you're just chilling. Now, when you say you have a stereo, like, you can hear it?

Oh, yeah. Yeah. So you're blasting it, so everybody hears it. Yeah. Isn't that weird? It's a little weird. Like, I don't like being that guy when I'm at a light. Yeah.

You know what I mean? But when you're riding along, nobody's really hearing it that much. You know, you're passing people. But, yeah, when you're sitting at a light. And I know guys who go with, you know, a thousand watts and their bags, their saddlebag is a speaker. Like, they're broadcasting. You know, I don't want to be that guy. But it is kind of nice.

Again, this is stuff that I hadn't done until I got this bike, right? But now I'm realizing, like, this shit ain't bad. If I'm cruising down, you know, Mulholland or PCH or something like that, and I'm listening to music, I'm like, yeah, I can do this. But how can you hear the music over the sound of the engine? The bike's loud enough. The speakers are loud enough. Wow. The system's loud enough.

What kind of music are you playing? Mostly jazz. I'm chilling. Jazz. Jesus Christ. I'm a jazz guy. Jazz and hip hop. Those are loud enough. Wow. Your system's loud enough. What kind of music are you playing? Mostly jazz. I'm chilling. Jazz. Jesus Christ. I'm a jazz guy. Jazz and hip hop. Those are my two.

You really do like jazz. You're one of those people you legitimately like it. I legitimately love jazz, man. I always assume that jazz is one of those things that weird dudes put on to pretend to girls

that they're into jazz. They're like, oh, he's so sophisticated. He likes jazz. There's some jazz that is like that and I'll admit I had to learn

that level of jazz. There's a level of jazz that's like this girl I dated she would be like oh you listen to that sketchy jazz shit. Sketchy?

That's the shit you have to listen to to learn because in the beginning only other musicians understand it. I know some jazz musicians and they were breaking it down. But there's a lot of jazz that's just i don't know i

don't know how to explain it's music played by master musicians and that's what that's why it's good because when you listen to a guy like robert glasper who's really hot now or herbie hancock like when you listen to herbie hancock play a piano, you're like, oh, that's how it's supposed to sound. You know what I mean? Because he just has mastered that instrument. So yeah, I listen to some of that. And it can be, there's times when it's out there and it's meditative and shit like that.

But don't get me wrong. You might pass by, I might be cranking Jay-Z. I love hip hop, love old school hip hop. The shit I grew up with the old 80s, 90s. Do you play music at all? No. So a lot of people that are into jazz actually play music. Yeah, a lot of them are.

I think I appreciate it because I have no musical talent. So masters of it fascinate me. And in the last 10 years, I've been doing like these jazz cruises, hosting jazz festivals and this and that. And I found it's really true. Well, you know this because you know musicians, too. That thing about every musician wants to be a comic and every comic wants to be a musician. I definitely have this mutual admiration thing with jazz artists. Like, man, I wish I could play that.

And they're like, man, I wish I was funny. Yeah. Yeah. Well, there's something about they can, not jazz necessarily, but people in bands, they can play the same shit forever. That's one thing that you and I can't do. I get on jazz artists about that all the time. They'll play, like there's

a track called So What by Miles Davis, right? Classic jazz. Like, Miles wrote this in 1959, and you can play it, and you're considered brilliant. How does that shit work? How does that work? At no point can I do Eddie Murphy's Goonie Goohoo

and suddenly be, that Alonzo's a brilliant comic. Did you hear that Goonie Goohoo routine? Imagine if you did some Woody Allen from 59. Yeah, you gotta do some 59, yeah. 59 you went to the same era. Yeah, you got to do some 59. Yeah. 59 comedy. You'd get fucking rocks thrown at you.

Isn't that weird? Like, comedy from 59 is terrible. Yeah. Try listening to some old Lenny Bruce. I'm a huge Lenny Bruce fan. I have framed Lenny Bruce posters in my home. But if you try to listen to it today, it's the culture has bypassed these ideas. Yeah. If you try to listen to it today, it's the culture has bypassed these ideas.

It was revolutionary and groundbreaking at the time because the culture was so childish and infantile. And it's ideas and understanding of weird concepts or abstract concepts or things like censorship or racism or any of the things that Lenny Bruce covered. And when he was covering them back then, they were groundbreaking. But now, a lot of the stuff he's saying is just, duh. But I think a lot of those comics, because years ago we were having this debate. This is before rape. Okay, we were having this debate about Cosby. You got to put that qualifier in now. Yeah, you always have to.

And it was, if he started today, would he make it? And I argued yes, because his comedy would have been different. Like he still, you know what I mean? Like Lenny Bruce, he wouldn't have been

talking about the things he was talking about in 59 or 60. He'd be talking about the same shit that we talk about today. Right. But he still would have had

that brilliant comic mind and he still would have been, who knows what he'd have been talking about because he'd have been kicking down doors today. Sure. So he would have been just at some, you know, different. But I think those comics, most of them, the brilliant, definitely the brilliant ones, the top ones would be funny today. They just talk about the topics we talk about. A hundred percent. Yeah, I think so, too. I think it's just a matter of the time and the era that they existed in.

But conversely, if you took someone from today, like if you took Dave Chappelle, and you had Dave Chappelle doing stand-up in 1960, they'd probably be like, what the fuck are you talking about? Yeah. Like, what are you doing? You're talking about a baby selling crack? Oh, you're talking about, yeah. What? The baby has kids to feed? What? 1999 Chappelle in 1959 never would have worked.

Well, it's just not relevant. Right. It has to be relevant to the time. You know, a brilliant comedian of today trying to talk about the same subjects we talk about today. I mean, that's the weird thing about comedy it really does reflect the era in which it's performed it's absolutely it's the culture that we're in i mean it was you know it was vaudeville right when when all you had to do was juggle and hit a guy with a hammer yeah right that was oh man you got that old hammer bit

when they would do like a japanese impression and put like a cigar in his mouth. You know, like the buck tooth. Oh, why? I never understood that. Like, how does that represent Japanese people? The buck tooth thing? Who was it that did that? There was a guy who did that.

That was like his thing. I can't remember. But I know you're talking about some picture in it. Yeah, it definitely, definitely what we does. Well, just in the time, I'd say even in the time we've been doing it. I mean, I started in 93 and it's definitely different now than, you know, than it was then. That was Def Jam. Yeah.

Right. When I was, excuse me, when I started out, Def Jam was it. Right. When I was excuse me, when I started out, Def Jam was it. And I caught a lot of hell being a black comic who wasn't a Def Jam type comic. It was like, what the hell are you talking about? Right. Right. Right. It was like, I'm on I'm on NPR, you know, which now is cool. But in 94 probably wouldn't have been the coolest, coolest thing. Yeah. Isn't that interesting? Like, you get expected to fit into a certain genre.

Right. Yeah. And then there's, like, there's markets for that genre. Yeah. Like, when Def Jam was big, like, there's a market for that kind of comedy. You saw a lot of comedians, like, mold themselves into that market. Yeah, and I always thought, and I was lucky in that a few of the pros,

like I remember like Cedric, the entertainer was one and Tommy Davidson was another. And George Wallace was another who told me like, just do like, do you like, you cannot like, don't worry about that shit because the only thing worse than being a deaf would be not not would be a fake death jam comic that was the only thing worse than not fitting in would be a fake death jam like for me to suddenly pretend like i grew up in queens you know i grew

up in saint albans queens working class black neighborhood you know my parents both had jobs but we had a house with a yard and a two car garage and a whole bit. Right. Not rich, not poor, just working class. If I had tried to come at you like I grew up in the South Bronx and I had friends from the South Bronx, you know, I had friends from Bed-Stuy, but it would have been fake and you'd have seen right through it.

If you were from Bed-Stuy, you'd have seen through my ass in a minute. You know, I might have fooled you if you were from, you know, I don't know, Colorado or some shit. Tommy Davidson. What happened to Tommy Davidson? Where's he at? Tommy's still out there. Tommy's still in clubs and doing his thing on rare occasions once in a while. But I'll always have love for Tommy.

Tommy helped me when I was new. Tommy took me on the road with him for a summer and I learned a lot. And he introduced me to clubs that I got into. You know, Tommy was Tommy was a brilliant talent. The drug thing really hurt Tommy. He went through that phase, that era. And and I think what hurt him with that was that he developed a reputation for unreliability where he you know people like is he going to show up and it was the worst thing to hear but talent wise he was just amazing like i would watch tommy work some nights when tommy did a story i don't know how much you've ever seen him on stage i've seen a bunch in the store when he starts becoming each different character in the story

With his voices and singing and shit brilliant. Yeah, really I used to watch that and just be blown away that he had that kind of talent the fucking drug thing man That's the the drug to that cocaine drug. You know when you talk about the drug thing. It's very rarely the pot Yeah, it's always the drug thing. It's like oh, what's he doing? You know meth coke? Yeah, it's very rarely the pot yeah it's always the drug thing it's like oh what's he doing you know meth coke yeah it's the speed ones right that's the one that do people or the booze yeah the booze do people in too well the thing and you know we talked about on the last podcast i went through the coke and a crack thing and what happens when you get addicted to drugs like that they just dominate your life yeah so you can't you can't do anything else because the drug dominates. Now it's heroin right now. You got people on Oxy and heroin.

And, you know, you literally see him in a nod. I was in Cleveland early this past summer, downtown Cleveland. You know, Ohio's got this like one of the bad opioid things. And you would just literally see people on the bench just nodding, like going into a nod. Like, holy shit, this is, you know. I mean, it's been there, but when people are sitting out on a park bench just going into a nod, we got a problem. Yeah, well, the problem in Massachusetts,

there was an Anthony Bourdain show he was doing about it recently where the problem in Massachusetts was that they were giving out pain pills to people so easily. Yeah. And people got hooked. And then when they try to get off the pain pills because they were tightened down the regulations on them, then people started turning to heroin. Right. And that was a thing in the 90s with the opioids when they came out with Oxycontin and all those related drugs. They told the

doctors, no, it's not addicting. Go ahead and write the prescription. And now some of those pharmaceutical companies are paying like big lawsuits because they knew back then that it was addicting. Yeah. I was just talking to another friend of mine the other day about pain pills. He got addicted. He was recovering from a surgery.

They gave him some pain pills and then he had some complications with the recovery. I think it was a, goddammit, I can't remember. It was a knee or, maybe it was a knee surgery. They had to do another surgery. They had to go in because there was some scar tissue and peeting. It was like four weeks later. They go and do another surgery. They give him more pain pills.

So now he's on pain pills for three months. And then he tries to just get off of them. Yeah. And he's sick. Yeah. You have to be taken off of a medical. You're not supposed to just go cold turkey. Some people do.

But meanwhile, no one told him. No, nobody tells you. I mean, I told him anything and he's all of a sudden a heroin addict. What in the fuck happened? I'm an opioid addict.

I had a tooth extracted and they gave me like, I don't know 20 vicodin or something you know for the week or something it's like it's a tooth like once it's gone it's gone i'm gonna be okay it's gonna be sore for a day and i'll be but but it's what they do it's it's how they write the script and then you get people who will sell them right who will be like oh i got these pills yeah i can just sell them i right? Who will be like, oh, I got these pills. Yeah. I can just sell them. I sold mine.

Yeah. When I had my knee operation. I took, it was either Vicodin or Percocet. I can't remember which one it was, but it made me so fucked up that I sold them to a friend of mine at the pool hall. So I can't take this shit. It's put me in a coma. I took Vicodin once and the same way I got sick.

I didn't like, I didn't like the feeling and I didn't understand why people did yeah exactly this is the high you want i have a friend who's a musician who is really creative on vikadin he said he writes music on vikadin i'm like what like what yeah he plays classical guitar he takes vikadin and just zones out and writes classical guitar music i'm like i don't get it man I felt so stupid when I took that yeah I didn't I didn't like that I didn't like that feeling but I don't mind being in a little pain it's like I get it I'm hurt like yeah there is a reason you have pain right your body saying hey some

shit's wrong here exactly pay attention to or don't use this don't use this body part right like if your elbow hurts or something your attention to or don't use this don't use this body part right like if your elbow hurts or something your body's saying okay don't use the elbow for a week yeah hey fuck it don't pick that up ow exactly but if you just numb it's just so another reason not to be in the nfl people just need to be comfortable being uncomfortable just relax just understand that this is uh this is gonna make you appreciate the good times, right? Because, like, right now you're in a bad place. But that doesn't happen, man.

We got a long time ago Stan Hope did a bit about that, right? About anything you feel, there's a drug for it. Like any physical or emotional feeling you have. I didn't see that bit. There's a drug for it. It's a long time ago. Ask him about it. Yeah. But he's bit. There's a drug for it. It's a long time ago. Ask him about it. Yeah.

But he's right. That's right. Anything, there's a drug to make it better. When I got my nose fixed, I got a deviated septum operated on. They pulled out a bunch of scar tissue and shit. But I'm telling you, there was no pain. I mean, it was uncomfortable

for as much a time as they had to pack it. It was packed up with gauze or these foam things with tubes hanging out that dripped, like the blood was dripping out of it. That was uncomfortable. But when I mean uncomfortable, it doesn't feel good to shove both fingers up your nose and leave them there. But I wasn't in pain. And my doctor was pushing the pills on me.

He gave me two different prescriptions for pain pills. For Vicodin's and I think the other ones were Oxy's. I was like, man, this doesn't hurt. And he's like, well, it might hurt later. I'm like, how's it going to hurt? Is it going to get, something's going to change? What's going to change? How's it going to hurt later? Right now, it's just like, my nose feels uncomfortable.

It's not painful, though. I think people just, you get told by your doctor that you're going to be in pain and you might be uncomfortable so I have some pills for you. You're like, Jesus I better take these pills before it gets bad. I better take these pills before I can't take it anymore. And you start freaking out.

I will say this. I did find out the medical use for cocaine and it absolutely works. Numbing. Yeah. I had a ripped cornea yeah playing ball this guy finger ripped across and and i'm talking the kind of pain where you just hit the ground like you're just done like your body is like don't do shit you are in me and i went to the doctor and that's what they use they put liquid cocaine eye drops wow in my eye and the pain disappeared

instantly i was like doc can i and he was like no we we don't prescribe these you have to come in and we have to put them in the eye but i will say you know how when you you go to the doctor and you're like make it better like that's always your dream like just make it better so i can leave he made it better the pain just went away they put lidocaine up my nose when I got the gauze sucked out and they pulled the plugs out. And he sprays lidocaine up there. I've had that stuff a couple of times. One time from a real bad sunburn, I put lidocaine all over my back. And it's the same feeling.

It's like I'll never do it again. I'll just take the pain. Because the feeling that you get from lidocaine is just this gross, weird, like you feel sketchy, like your heart feels sketchy, like, oh, you feel like you don't want to eat, but you know you probably should, but like, oh. So lidocaine gives you a very weird feeling. And I was eating that night. I went to dinner, and I was eating at the steak place, and I was like barely hungry.

I'm like, why do I feel like shit? And then I realized like, oh, they pumped that fucking lidocaine in my nose. Oh, so it was in, it went in your system. Like it was in your nose, but it went in your system. I swallowed it. I could taste it. Could taste it in the back. You know, it's because they're pumping it up your nose because I should have just had

them yank that stuff out. Just pull it out because it was really no big deal. Right. You know, but they, they have you convinced that you're going to be in agony you know yeah and different people have different pain tolerance yeah you know some people are pussies yeah yeah some people can and others can you know can take it well that's the thing about uh jujitsu like jujitsu doing jujitsu for 20 plus years whatever i've done you're always in pain you just you you just get used to compartmentalizing like, oh, my arm's fucked up. Just accept it and deal with it.

Because if you took a pain pill every time you were injured from jujitsu, yeah. You'd be on them all the time. You're a junkie. You're going to be a junkie. That's why I avoid jujitsu. Good. Good move. Good call.

Stay on thoseitsu. Good. Good move. Good call. Stay on those motorcycles. Yeah. When I used to play basketball all the time, though, that's the way it was. It was like my knees always hurt. Yeah, I would imagine. Yeah, something, you know. And the funniest one, we were in this basketball league, and everyone on my team was like mid-30s, you know, 32, 35. And we were playing these kids.

These kids were like 19, 20. And we walked into the gym, and they get right on the court. They're running, and our whole team is sitting there. You're wrapping shit up with tape. You're rubbing Bengay or some whatever you got. Like our whole team is on the bench just warming up, like rubbing and wrapping, looking at them like, well, we beat them. You know, we were veterans. We knew what we were doing. But it was such an obvious thing at the beginning, like rubbing and wrapping, looking at them like, well, we beat them. You know, we were veterans.

We knew what we were doing. But it was such an obvious thing at the beginning, like, yeah, fellas, we're getting old. And now all of those guys I used to play ball with all play golf. That's the retired sport. It's like, yeah, man, play some golf. Well, playing ball on hard concrete, too, like those hard surfaces, that shit has got to be terrible for you.

All the stop and start and bouncing around. Well, doctors will tell you the knees aren't made for sports you know especially not running and jumping sports but when you're when you're a kid nobody's going to tell you not to play ball right you know i mean that like it's funny to me when i'm watching college basketball and they're like these guys are tired i'm like no they no, they're not. They're 19 and they're playing basketball. If they weren't here, you know where they'd be? Playing basketball. Yeah, they like it. They'd be at the gym or they'd be in the park.

Yeah, there are a lot of things. They're not tired right now. They may have lost concentration. They may have this, that, the other. But tired, you're a 19-year-old athlete. You don't kind of shape those guys around you. Like, they're not tired. Well, basketball on a hardwood floor seems to have a little gift to it.

Yeah, it's got a little gift to it. And the shoes are so much better now. I mean, you ever put on a pair of Converse Chuck Taylors? I wear them all the time. Now, imagine running and jumping in those. Well, there's an argument that that's better for you because you develop strength in your feet. Like that what you're dealing with with these basketball shoes is essentially like a big rubber

cast and that these rubber casts and all the cushioning and all that jazz actually weakens your feet. I don't buy it because I can't I have this one pair of Nikes. I don't know what they are. They're Air something but they got the full Air sole and they're the only shoes I can run in. Right, you today. But you weigh what? 240? Yeah, 250.'t know what they are. They're Air something, but they got the full Air sole. And they're the only shoes I can run in.

Right, you today. But you weigh what, 240? Yeah, 250. You're a big fella. 250, yeah. Yeah. But so are they. Make no mistake.

These guys are big. I understand. These guys are 6'7", 200, 200 plus. All that stomping and everything like that. I guess especially you got to consider basketball players are playing how many days a week for how many months a year. And then in the offseason, it's not like they just lay around and get fat. Right. They're working out in the offseason.

And also you've got to look at how much money is invested in that player. You know what I mean? Like Russell Westbrook just signed for $200-whatever million. You better believe his feet are going to be taken care of. Like whatever shoes he's playing in are going to be the best thing possible for his feet because you've got $40 million a year invested in that. When a guy gets a contract like that, do the hoes just start circling like vultures? Oh, no, they've been there.

They've been there. But how does that work? Hoes is around way before $200 million. But once that happens, they start thinking, all I need is one sperm to crack the egg and I'm good. Right? There's a lot of gals out there like that. Back in, okay, what was it?

88, 89. I used to play ball at Valley College all the time, like pickup ball. But it was high level. They were good. I played with guys who had been in like D1, who had played Division I league and stuff like that. The NBA rehab was in Van Nuys. And on weekends, they would come to the gym and they'd play ball with us.

And I got to know a few players. And this one guy told me, and this was in 88, 89. He said, an NBA kid is worth $100 100 grand a year for 18 years. He said these chicks poke holes in the condoms. He was like, you can't trust any of them. And that was then. Jesus. With that kind of money.

That was back when, you know, 5 million was a huge contract, right? So you can only imagine now. 100 grand a year seems fairly inexpensive. Take care of a child. But again, in 89, this was back in 89. So now that hundred grand is probably half a million. Probably, right? And I think the average salary in the NBA, including the guys on the bench, is like 2.3 million.

Isn't that funny, too? Because when you think about, say the average person makes like what 70 grand 60 grand a year like is that minimum wage I mean not minimum wage middle class was middle middle class like 60 70 here in California it is I think across America I think it's like 40 something so but the idea that this baby would live like that is like no no no, no, no, no. Even though the guy doesn't even know the kid, right?

She's taking care of it, doesn't even know her. If he has to be child support, you're playing child support like lavish. Lavish. The average person, if the average family is existing off of $50,000 to $70,000 a year,

but this woman wants half a million for this super baby. Yeah. It's fascinating, right? It's like we have these weird rules. Right. Well, wait a minute. Why is that the case? Because it's what dad makes.

I know, but it's weird, right? It's proportionate to what dad makes. But, I mean, you're not asking someone to pay for a kid's living expenses. You're asking someone to keep a kid in the lap of luxury and then the mom's going to buy a car and purses and get her nails did. That's the fight that dads have, right?

A lot of the dads are like, well, just send me the bill. Send me the bill for private school. What is this here? Antonio, how do you say his name? Oh, Cromartie. Cromartie. Just had number 14. Took his $3 million deal from the Colts and immediately used it to settle a child support dispute with a baby mama to avoid possible

arrest in the process. Cromartie was delinquent on child support payments to Rosamita Pierre. Sounds like a lovely lady. The mother of Alonzo, his oldest child, a.k.a. number one of 13 kids. He's got 14 now. 14. He's up to 14.

He was ordered to pay her $4,000 per month. That's not that bad. That's actually reasonable. Now multiply that by 14. That's a lot. He got his tubes tied too last year and still had a kid. Damn, that's some powerful sperm.

Let me see what he looks like. Scroll up. He's like, what the fuck? scroll up he's like what the fuck which is why you know when you get to to kaepernick and the boycott of football and some people are mad at the players for playing it's like that's why you got to play because you got 14 kids kaepernick and the boycott of football is like what does that have to do with transport meaning that um that the idea of black people boycotting football and then people saying, like, why do the players play? Like, you know, screw them.

But everybody, every black player in the NFL just refused to play. And it's like, no, that ain't going to happen. They need their paychecks. This whole national anthem thing, along with football, is very weird. It's like football players should be playing football. UFC fighters don't have to fucking stand there with their hand over their heart to show allegiance and to show, you know. Well, you're basically asking someone to be domesticated. Right.

You're asking them to follow the rules. The truth has come out. Like, players didn't do it it until like, what was it? Oh, nine or something like that. When the, when the government started paying the NFL to have them do it. Exactly. It's yeah. This, that whole thing.

It's weird, man. It's weird because the whole thing you're asking them to be, you know, they have to, to give in, you know, you're asking them to follow the rule. My problem with it, and I called it the misdirection, the protest never had to do with the flag. Right. It was about cops. The protest had to do with cops and the treatment. And it was just, he just did it at that point

because that's a powerful statement to do it at that point. You know, and now the misdirection, the changing of the topic is making it about the flag. And it's like, no, that's not what they were. They were never protesting the flag or veterans or Americans. And again, when you get into those rules of the flag, you're not supposed to have the flag on T-shirts or bikinis or hats or a million other things we sell with the flag on it. Like, if you want to talk about respecting the flag, we wouldn't do any of that. You're right. Yeah.

And you summed it up. I mean, it is. It's about control, right? It's the same thing with these freedom of speech marches, like where, yeah, it's okay to have freedom of speech as long as you're saying something I agree with. Right, right. But the problem with this whole Kaepernick thing is that it's okay to have freedom of speech as long as you're saying something I agree with. Right, right. But the problem with this whole Kaepernick thing is that it's not an effective form of protest, too,

because it's getting people pissed off for the wrong reasons, right? Well, it was. It's getting people thinking that you're protesting America itself. They're like, why don't you fucking move to Canada? People start getting crazy about it. But what he's trying to do or what he was trying to do was protest all these unarmed people getting shot by cops and so he takes a knee for that but the national anthem doesn't have shit to do with those cops right well it just became a thing of when one guy did it and he did it as a protest and he said he wanted to start the conversation and then the conversation got lost and now the conversation is completely lost.

And the argument is a completely different topic. And, you know, that. But, yeah, what you said, control is definitely part of it. Same thing with the universities. Right. With free speech on the universities. And, you know, when you look at a school like Berkeley, Berkeley had a reasonable argument. It's like, look, when we bring one of these radical speakers here and it costs a million dollars for security, who's going to pay that? It's like, if you're going to pay it, fine, we'll let you talk. But if nobody's going to pay the million dollars for security, then we can't have these radical speakers here. Well, sort of. You know, the problem with that article is they've had those speakers there forever. And then when

they started having these Antifa protests and they also started supporting these Antifa protests. That's a big issue. They stopped having cops go after the Antifa people. And the Berkeley, literally, the chief of police was literally telling people, the mayor, was telling the police to stand down and let these people protest. And not just protest. They were being very violent and attacking things. And you're setting up a reaction action event. So if you have something like that where people are breaking windows and light things on fire or doing whatever they're doing, you're going to have people that say, fuck those people. We're going to meet there and we're going to protest the anti protest people. And then next thing you know, you've got a real issue in your hands. Well, but that's the point. That's where we're at now, where everything has to be that big an issue. Yeah, you're right.

20 years ago, 10 years ago at Berkeley, you could have had a speaker, a right-wing speaker that the school didn't agree with. There would have been some protesters outside. Just not even a couple years ago. But then it became, and this is a social media effect right the speaker brings his social media thing and he needs to stir it up to build his social media side and then some people come and then the other side gets mad just what you said yeah and they bring there and then you bring the angry groups from both sides are going to meet and then they're like okay that now it's but because it makes the whole thing bigger,

it's like promoting a fight. Right. You know what I mean? It's like promoting a fight. It's like, it's one thing if two guys get into a fight, but if you promote that fight for a month, three months,

six months ahead, that fight's going to be huge. And this is the same thing. They're promote these speakers. The, the, the protest is part of the publicity right you know so well there's speakers and then there's people that are provocateurs right like you know milo you know right that's

that's a better term so yeah i shouldn't say speakers i should say provocateurs whereas ben shapiro is a speaker ben shapiro is an intellectual and he's a guy who's got some very solid arguments whether you agree with him or not he's he's got some real facts to go with his arguments. And they were – he's a Jew and he wears a yarmulke, and people are calling him a Nazi. It's like this whole punch Nazi thing and getting – I mean, just the arguments are getting so blurry, and it's just like we were talking about before when it comes to gun control.

It's teams. You know, I'm on team left wing. I support know, you're on. I'm on team left wing. I support Antifa. You know, I'm on team right wing. I support the, you know, conservatives and POTUS. Like the people that are calling Trump POTUS. You know, you know, you're defaming POTUS. Like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

It's fucking Trump. It's Donald Trump. I mean, if there's ever an argument, this is ridiculous. The fucking guy who is the host of The Apprentice is now the guy you're calling POTUS. Joe, Joe, you're disrespecting the White House. Disrespect from POTUS. I mean, it's like literally like the Pope. It gets to this almost like papal situation, right?

And again, these are the same people who said the exact same thing about Barack Obama last year, right? about Barack Obama last year, right? But the president has never been disgraced or insulted like, really? They insulted Obama when he wore a tan suit. We played that a couple of weeks ago. They lost their minds when Obama wore a tan suit. I thought it was a big deal. That was the end of America.

Disrespecting the office with off-color clothing. It's a gang color. That's right. He's respecting the office with off-color clothing. It's a gang color. That's right. He's gang Sandy. And then Michelle Obama wore a sleeveless dress. And I think that was just, you know. Didn't Alex Jones do something recently saying that Michelle Obama was a man? Like proof that Michelle Obama was a man? What the fuck?

He's on some shit today. They'll do all that shit when Michelle ain't in the room. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. You know, it was easy for Donald Trump to call pro football players sons of bitches from Huntsville, Alabama. Yeah. Let's try it on the sideline with a few of them standing next to you. Sons of bitches.

Yeah, fire those sons of bitches. You're fired. They shouldn't have them fucking stand for the national anthem. First of all, if you want to have a national anthem for a game, what are you saying? I mean, you're rallying up patriotism at a sporting event. Sporting events are supposed to be entertaining. It's supposed to remove us from all of our daily bullshit. Right.

If it's going to be entertaining, be entertaining. Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt. They did a thing this past week at the rams game like during the national anthem how many people were in the beer line how many guys were taking a piss oh yeah how many you know what i mean it's not like those guys it's not like everybody stopped yeah take a knee while you're pissing yeah it's not like you know not like everybody stopped and turned and held their hand over their heart like yeah well i got my dick in my hand.

It's going to be people running into the bathroom, beating people's asses for pissing during the national anthem. If you tell them they can. It's just, the protest is ineffective, right? Getting on your knees, it just causes too much controversy. And here's the other problem with it. It doesn't stop anything. It doesn't stop cops from doing anything. It doesn't even shed light on it.

It just points to you, and people start talking about, well, what is it that you're protesting? Well, we're mad at you because you're not standing up for the national anthem. It creates all this noise, all this political noise. That's the part I call the misdirection, because initially when Kaepernick did it, it had some meaning. It had some meaning to him. And it was about starting a conversation. And when it became this bigger thing, like you're talking about, when it became this, oh, you're anti-American, you're anti-troops or blah, blah, blah.

Now it's lost its effectiveness. Now, yeah, you got to do something else because that doesn't, you're right. It doesn't mean anything anymore. People don't even know. They don't even know why you're doing it, but they hate you for doing it. Well, there's too many people doing it now, too. Why are you doing it? I do it because I hate puppies.

Yeah, exactly. Who the fuck is, you know, and now everybody's doing it because they're mad at Trump talking shit about the NFL. So you're getting just giant groups of people doing it now, much more so than before. Yeah, and it's lost its effectiveness, its loss of importance. And the players, a lot of the players get caught in the middle, right? Because if you do have a thing where your team says you can't do it

or you're going to be fined or you're going to whatever. Are they saying that? Yes. The NBA said that it's against the rules. The NBA? The NBA. But is anybody doing that in the NBA yet? Well, they hadn't started playing. The NBA just started this week in preseason. Right, but the NBA. But is anybody doing that in the NBA yet? Well, they hadn't started playing.

The NBA just started this week in preseason. Right, but the NBA in the past. In the past, the NBA did things like they've worn I Can't Breathe t-shirts for Eric Garner. Oh, yeah, that's right. And they've done things like that. Hands up, don't shoot. NBA players are a bit more sophisticated in their protests and I think they're also

more united. Less head trauma. Probably a big part of it. They've also been encouraged, I think, to speak out whereas I don't know that the NFL players are also encouraged to speak out in public on these topics. I don't know if basketball players

are necessarily encouraged to speak out or the big difference with the I don't know if basketball players are necessarily encouraged to speak out, or the big difference with the NBA, the players are bigger than the team. Right, right, right. They're huge stars. Yeah, so you have, like, LeBron is bigger than the Cavaliers. Curry is bigger than the Warriors. When LeBron tweeted, you bum, at the president, I was like, oh my goodness. Like, where are we?

Yeah. you bum at the president. I was like, oh my goodness. Where are we? Where are we going where a fucking superstar pro athlete is tweeting you bum at the president of the United States who happens to be a reality show host? Fuck, man. This is crazy. But theoretically, look, we've elected a reality show host. LeBron could

be the president in 20 years. 100% with Vice President Kanye. Vice President Kanye with a fucking Prozac drip. show host, LeBron could be the president in 20 years. A hundred percent. You know? With Vice President Kanye. Vice President Kanye with a fucking Prozac drip. He would have an IV bag dripping right into his arm while he's standing there zoning out, getting chubby. Kim Kardashian is telling him what to do in his ear. Kim Kardashian is the first lady.

Why not? Why the hell not? Why not? Why the hell not? Melania can barely speak English. That's right. They're talking about immigration, closing the border. Like, what the fuck? Where Why the hell not? Melania can barely speak English. That's right. They're talking about immigration, closing the border. Like, what the fuck?

Where'd you get her? Where'd you get her? She doesn't even speak. And she did lesbian porn. I don't watch Bill Maher all the time, but apparently he did this some kind of top ten list about Melania. And one of the jokes was, she has no first language. Yeah. That's a joke that Russell Beter said about Yoshi.

You know, Yoshi Kobayashi. He was saying, he goes, Yoshi speaks terrible English, but when you talk to people that speak Japanese, his Japanese sucks too. It's like, you don't have a language, man. You have no real language. Yeah. The whole thing is, this football thing is very strange. It's very strange because now they're, they kicked these two high school kids off the team.

Because they're following their heroes. So they say, fuck it, I'm going to take a knee too. First of all, if you're taking a knee, you should at least be able to write an essay. Tell me why you're taking a knee, you should at least be able to write an essay. Tell me why you're taking a knee, son. And you've got to know the difference between your, while you are, and while you apostrophe R-E. You also got to be starting. Yes.

You know what I mean? Like if the starting quarterback takes a knee, there's a lot more latitude than a second string defensive end. You know what I mean? Trust me, if Aaron Rodgers, if Dak Prescott was taken in need, it'd be a whole different conversation. Well, Colin Kaepernick wasn't a big star player. He was, but he fell off.

Do you think he fell off because of the controversy and all the hate? No, I don't know what it was. He had started falling off before that. So that was how he got back into hate? No, I don't know what it was. He had started falling off before that. So that was how he got back in the game? And I don't know what it was. Yeah, I don't know what it was. I mean, but one of the arguments is, and it is true, he's a lot better than a lot of quarterbacks who have jobs. See, that was the thing.

They said, no, it's not a conspiracy because of the protests. But then they showed the numbers of, like, various backup quarterbacks who are in the league and he's better than a lot of them and then one of the owners i think it was baltimore where the coach wanted him and the owner was like nah i don't want him because of the protests so it became a thing of where they said they said he's not blackballed because of the protests but then it came out yeah he was blackballed because of the protests and again that that's one of those things where and you know this with any athlete like your complaints depend on where you are in your career sure well tom brady even said the president

was divisive yeah and when tom brady said that everybody went oh jesus right right he's not taking the knee yet but they're they're hooking arms yeah yeah everybody's hooking arms in in in unity because when trump spoke out against the nfl now he he's aiming at their money yeah you know when he's telling fans not to go to the games like those owners love him but now they're like we'll hold the fuck up now yeah that's money out of our pocket everybody's saying hold the fuck up now because it is working direct tv just offered this gigantic refund for their nfl package yeah because people are pissed off that people are taking a knee you're paying to see football you fucks yeah you're not paying to see people stand with their hand over their heart like what here's the here's the solution take all that shit out of the game yeah okay

if you want the players to be compliant and submissive, you're asking the wrong thing. You're talking about super athletes is what is essentially a group combat sport. That's what football is. And if they're not, what are you doing here? You're telling them to keep their job. They have to put their hand over their heart and stand in a certain position. That seems very fucking bizarre. Well, Fox said that they're going to stop televising the national anthem.

Ah. And it was pointed out, well, you didn't used to televise a national anthem. Yeah. Like, you didn't televise it until two weeks ago. Right. When it became controversial. Before that, we'd be listening to those three guys in the studio right up until the kickoff. And the only time they televised it is if it was like Whitney Houston was singing it.

Right. Yeah, big deal. That was a big deal. Well, I'm a big fan of no anthem in sports because I like sports to be sports. One of the things I love about the UFC, there's no national anthems. You don't have to play the Brazilian national anthem when Jose Aldo's fighting or the American national anthem when Chris Weidman's fighting. You don't have to play the Brazilian national anthem when Jose Aldo's fighting or the American national anthem when Chris Weidman's fighting. You don't have to do that.

You just go right to the fight. Here's the main event of the evening. Boom. Entertainment. Blah, blah, blah. And if someone wants to make some sort of a political statement or a stand, they can do that in an interview. And then that interview will be judged based on the content of whatever the conversation is. And that's how it should be. This weird sort of way where someone taking a knee is supposed to protest cops shooting people, but it doesn't say that while you're taking the knee,

you're taking the knee during the anthem. The anthem is supposed to be all of us. It's supposed to be America, the whole group as a team, like the United States of America, not the Seahawks versus the Dolphins. Put all that aside for a second. We're all in this together. That's the idea. I understand why he did it, and I understand why he did it then, because it was the way to call attention to it. But now that's lost. But you know what the national anthem has been historically?

Get to your seat. The game's about to start. That's all to start. That's all it was. It was like the two, the what's the last word in the last two words of the national anthem play ball. Yeah. Like that's literally, that's what we thought was part of the song.

Cause that's what you heard right at the end. The umpire, y'all play ball and the game started, you know? So I understood what Kaepernick did, but now it's done. And now it's been compromised and changed and the arguments changed. And, yeah, it's, you know, and he's still not playing.

People are using the land of the free to shake their dick as they're, like, trying to get it out. Hurry up. The land of the free. What is this? This just came out now this afternoon, maybe even within the hour, that 1,200 players' personal data has been exposed in a leak by hackers in the NFL, including Colin Kaepernick's data. What kind of data?

Personal information off of a server from the NFLPA, which is the Players Association of the NFL. Was that a hack there, or did they just what Experian or Equifax or whatever? So they had a Bitcoin ransom they were trying to say they would get rid of this leak, but it is now coming out. Only 428 bucks. That's all they asked at the time. How crazy is that, though? Give me 428 bucks.

I know someone that happened to, that Bitcoin hack. Really? Yeah, yeah. I was just talking to her this weekend. She has an accounting company, and apparently these hackers take control of your database, and they have an encryption key, and you have to pay them in Bitcoin to get the encryption key to get back your own data. Yeah, there's a giant group of people from other countries that engage in this, and they

target large businesses and people that will be willing to pay. Yeah, it's like an extortion thing. Yeah, very weird. See, now you have something to lose. Me, if you want to hold my 428 followers hostage, go ahead. I'll just start another website. Do you think Colin Kaepernick gets confronted by the suits? Do you think they sit him down and go, hey, man, you got to stop doing this.

This is fucking up everybody. I think they did last year. I think they did last year. Where do you think this goes? Because my question is, like, when the more Trump tweets about this, ratings down, NFL bad, sad, you know, he tweets that. And all the Trumpettes go along with it. And then they start boycotting people. I see all these fucking tweets, boycott the NFL and all this crazy thing.

You know where it goes? It goes nowhere because we have no attention span as a nation. But it's gonna have to stop or continue but again this is the thing we we just had this mass shooting right so the attention now will be on on the nra and you know guns and and so on you know what i mean and the nfl will be on the back burner like we have in the past month six weeks confederate statues right yeah hurricanes charlottesville uh yeah uh the nfl now it's a mass shooting you know what i mean we have no we have no attention span as a nation so it will just go away and and in another month

people will be watching football there'll be something else yeah yeah because there's always there's always the latest big story and then that's the you know i haven't heard a thing about a confederate statue in the last two weeks of them getting knocked down of them getting put back up yeah or whatever you know i mean it mean? It's true. Right, wrong, or indifferent, America has zero attention span. Did you see what that fucking lady from CBS, that top executive, she was like a vice president at CBS, some huge position. She went on Facebook saying she didn't feel bad for the people that got shot in Vegas because they were Republicans. They were likely Republicans. She's talking about hundreds of people that got shot for going to a country music concert.

Like the fact that she just made this blanket statement, she thought they were likely Republicans because they were at a country music concert. You know, the thing about that, and this is the thing about freedom of speech that people forget, you have freedom of speech, but there's consequences. It's not freedom of speech without consequence. So she can say that. And then if CBS fires her the next day, it's like, well, you shouldn't have said that shit. You know, you should have kept it to yourself or you should have told your friends at the cocktail party. But the minute you made that public statement, we don't want to be associated with you. But it's what we're talking about earlier, this team thing, that someone could be so ideologically isolated.

They're so locked into this liberal bubble that they think it's OK to say something like that, that it's okay for mass murder to exist and you don't feel bad for this mass because you don't agree with they don't share your team ideology i mean what did you is that what is her name this lady it's fucking insane yeah i mean this is that level she was a very high level executive this isn This isn't like some crazy person. I think the key word in your sentence is was. Was, yeah. Well, she's fucked now. I mean, she's likely fucked forever. I mean, this is not something that people forget. What is she?

She was a vice president of business affairs. Oh, no. Yeah, vice president of business affairs. Yeah, Haley Geftman Gold wrote on her Facebook page she was not sympathetic to victims of shootings because she claimed most country music fans are Republicans. Wow. She wrote that if they

wouldn't do anything when children were murdered I have no hope that repugs will ever do the right thing. I am actually not even sympathetic

because country music fans are often are Republican gun toters. Holy shit. Well, you got the right to say it and you got the right to lose your job.

Not even sympathetic is such a, I mean, that could have been your sister, your mom, your daughter, someone's little kid. I mean, that was a country music thing, right? There was a lot of family type folks that are there. Country music events. I mean, I don't know what time of night that it all went down, but how old were the people there? I don't know, like 10. I saw a kid in one of those videos. Yeah, I mean, sure, there's kids at country music things.

What I said was, had it been a rap concert, they would have blamed the artists. Not if a white guy did it. There would have been some serious calls of horrific racism. It's just lucky that a white guy was shooting white people. And again, you know, the reason I laugh, because like that's how horrific we become as a society. Yeah. That that's the statement.

Like, you know, you know what I mean? Like, yeah, well, there's a white guy shooting white people. So we couldn't twist the race into, you know, you know what I mean? That's what I saw today about someone was writing about white privilege. Right. We're so i we're insane we're insane that that that that is the issue with something like this you know but but it's it's true i mean what you're saying is true but we've reached that level of insanity that that statement is true come imagine how freaked out people would be if that was a Muslim that did this.

Oh, it'd be war. It would be war. War. It would be war in the streets. Yeah. And, you know, actually, like, no Muslim would be safe in America. I mean, are we going to have war on white dudes with guns? No.

No. I mean, there was white dudes with guns that got shot by a white dude with guns. Everyone must feel so, so conflicted because a lot of those people that were in the audience, like one of the country music guys actually came out and said that he completely switched his stance on gun rights. He said, I've been a second amendment advocate my entire life. He goes, I have concealed carry permits. There's people with concealed carry permits that were on my staff. Yeah, guitarist, Las Vegas control, changed his mind on gun control. What is his name? Caleb. Caleb Keeter. Caleb Keeter sounds like the whitest fucking dude

that's ever lived. Caleb Keeter, good old boy. Caleb Keeter. My name's Caleb, Caleb Keeter. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say Caleb Keeter drives a truck. Oh, for sure. Does he have a baseball hat or a cowboy hat? Level 95 wizard. Guitarist for the, what is that? Josh Abbott Band. Josh Abbott Band. See, I'll say something like that.

I'll be like, who the fuck are they? And then you go to their Twitter page. They have 24 million followers. I'm like, what is happening? I don't understand. Country music is a whole different world, man. A whole different world. But, you know, again, we're getting back to where we started, which is great, and the insanity of the whole thing. But the problem, what you said about, like, a white guy doing this shooting, we were talking about everyone's in their team, right?

Everyone's in their group. Yeah. But this ruins the narrative. Right. Because if our narrative is the Muslims are terrorists, they, it's they, they are the terrorists and the black people are criminals and the Mexicans are, you know,

rapists and dope dealers and everything. Then, oh shit, one of ours did it to us? A millionaire. Yeah. A white millionaire. Now. Who's a real estate investor and a gambler. Right. This ruins your narrative. Now you have to figure out how to change your story to make him other because he has to somehow become other.

There are people that are taking advantage of it in a fucked up way. I saw this article on white privilege. They're saying that the shooter had white privilege and using his white privilege. That's how he walked through the casino with all these guns and all this equipment and shit like that. I'm like, what? He's a fucking psychopath. I believe white privilege exists in certain circumstances, not in that one. Yeah, that's a ridiculous argument.

What are you looking at, Jamie? White privilege of the lone wolf shooter. Oh, that fucking guy. Of course. That fucking fake black guy. Of course it's him who writes that. That guy is such a race pet. Oh, you're talking about the article

about the guy being a lone wolf? Yeah. Yeah, I read that. This whole thing that we're dealing with has so many different facets to it, the mass shooter thing. But a big part of it is the fact that it becomes the narrative for the entire country. It becomes a huge part of what everybody's talking about.

And these people that have, for whatever reason, they have this need to be a guy who gets paid attention to. And this gets back to your point about mental health. Yeah. And our mental health is a nation that the mass shooter is a thing. Yeah. Like, you know, I think it was Trevor Noah was talking about on The Daily Show where we're really not surprised anymore. Right. You know, because he said, like, he's been in the United States for two years,

living in New York for two years, And how many mass shootings this is. And it's like, but Americans are like, yeah, you know, another one. And we got to develop some sense of outrage before we do something about this. Or like the Onion article was talking about, we just like, well, we'll just hope that it doesn't happen again. We won't do anything differently. We're not going to do anything different, but we're just going to hope, you know, and that, and that line, the thoughts and prayers line. Yeah. Stop it. Stop it. Stop it. Thoughts and prayers go out to know people feel like they need to say something. Right. And, and people do. But if you're, if you're in the government, if you're a

policymaker, then you do more than just say that. You got to put your balls on the line and step up and do something. Challenge the gun lobby about registration of weapons. It was easier for them to challenge the hotel lobby about security in hotels than to challenge the gun lobby about registration of weapons. But here's the thing about the registration of weapons. This guy had these weapons illegally. I mean, these are still like at the end of the day, you're talking about a criminal possessing criminal weapons. Same thing as Sandy Hook. He got access to those illegally. He got them from his mom who got them legally. Right. But he got them illegally. Yeah. But you can still make it like you said, if you made it more difficult, if you had

to take a class, if you had to register. If your shit had to be in a safe. There'd be a percentage that didn't have him. Yeah. I mean, your shit should be locked up. I mean, it's just, I just don't know. But what's interesting, too, is that Trump used to be a Democrat. He was a Democrat forever.

Trump's a publicity guy. You know what I mean? And he's, you know, this goes back to Sarah Palin, right? Like, I never liked Sarah Palin or agreed with Sarah Palin, but I respected Sarah Palin's ability to manipulate the media. Sarah Palin knew how to keep her name in the news. You know, Kim Kardashian's another one. Like, you may not like Kim Kardashian, but guess what? You know who she is.

You know who she is. We all know who she is. I read somewhere that she is the most famous woman on Earth, and I can believe that. Oh, yeah. I had a whole bit about it. I had a whole bit about aliens come down here and try to figure out why that's the most famous woman on Earth. Right. And we explained to her by using O.J. Simpson.

Yeah. The whole idea is that O.J. Simpson, you know, got out of, you know, like Robert Kardashian was O.J. Simpson's one of his attorneys. Yeah, I remember that. They all died of cancer. You know, that's what's fucked up. Yeah. F. Lee Bailey's the only guy that's alive. And he's broke and living in Maine somewhere.

Yeah. Everybody that got O.J. off was just ostracized. Johnny Cochran died of cancer. Yeah. Kardashian died of cancer. They all just fucking hate who came their way. A lot of brothers in jail because Johnny Cochran died. We miss Johnny, Joe.

I ain't going to lie to you, Joe. We miss Johnny. He fucked up. He fucked up with the O.J. case. Johnny was good, man. If the glove does not fit, you must acquit. And everybody was like, what? There's a lot of ballplayers doing time saying, damn, Johnny.

So you watched that whole Cuba Goody Jr. thing. I've only watched one episode. I watched one episode last night, but it brought it all back. Underrated actor. Oh, yeah. He won an Oscar. Yeah, I know. But then sort of dropped off.

Yeah, you look at, and that movie he did with De Niro about being the first black diver was a Man of Honor. It was a phenomenal movie. Did you ever see that movie? No, I never even heard of it. Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's called Man of Honor or something. Cuba Gooding Jr. plays the first black deep sea diver. And it's a true story. Yeah. Man of Honor honor 2000 check that out he's sort of i mean

dropped off in a weird way like wonder what happened with him i don't know it's one of those things when he gets a chance to play a role he's phenomenal in it but so many times he gets these you know clown movies bullshit roles and stuff like that i don't know how hollywood works on that level so i don't know how Hollywood works on that level, so I don't know what it is. The thing is some poor choices. Poor choices after, what was the fucking agent movie? Show Me the Money.

What the fuck was that? Jerry Maguire. Jerry Maguire. After that movie, there was a big drop-off. It happens. Same thing happened with Jamie Foxx. Yeah, but Jamie Foxx is still in the mix. He still does everything.

Yeah. I mean, he was in Django. Yeah, no, Jamie Foxx. Yeah, but Jamie Foxx is still in the mix. He still does everything. I mean, he was in Django. Yeah, no, Jamie Foxx was great in Django and that Baby Driver. I didn't see that one. I heard it was amazing. Yeah, it's a great movie. He's good in that. Jamie Foxx is just one of those weird dudes. It seems like he could do anything. Super talented. Yeah. And super personable, too. That's the other thing

about him. I've been hanging out with him. He's such a normal guy. Met him last year. Couldn't have been nicer. That's the other thing about him. Yeah, I met him. I've been hanging out with him. He's such a normal guy. Met him last year. Couldn't have been nicer. He's very cool. Yeah, he did the podcast a couple months ago. It's normal as it comes. There's a recent clip of him describing the potential Tyson movie that they might be making

and the opening of it that they might have worked out. It's fucking awesome. It's like a three-minute clip of him just describing it, doing a little Tyson impression in there. Oh, well, he can do amazing impressions. Yeah. He would be great as Tyson. You just have to do a lot of roids.

Yeah, he's going to have to get real thick. Roid it up. Because they are completely different body types. Yeah, he would have to roid it up. And he would have to actually learn how to box. I don't know if he does. But you can't have a guy like... He might have trained some when he did Ali. He was

Ali's corner man when Will Smith played Ali. Yeah. Wasn't he Bondini Brown? Yeah, he was. Yeah. But Will Smith pulled it off. He looked like a boxer. He looked like he had been training. But there's a few guys that you don't. Yeah,

there he is. Yeah, there's a few guys that you don't. Yeah, there he is. Yeah, there's a few guys that just don't pull it off. When you're playing a fighter. Even Russell Crowe, when he played Jim Braddock, was like, I'm not buying you into boxing. Can you imagine if boxing really was like movie fights where every punch connects? Well, some fights are. Go watch a Turo Gatti versus Mickey Ward.

Those fucking fights literally were movie fights. That's what everybody was so jazzed up about. Right. Some of the most, I mean, blood and guts fights for sure,

but preposterous fights. They stood right in front of each other and beat the shit out of each other. That was Hagler-Hearns. That was the only fight i saw that that was a movie fight like yeah we're just gonna stand here and just punch each other until it's over well haggler just decided that that fight he mean he fought very strategically in most fights you know when he fought mugabe

mugabe was a murderous puncher and he took Mugabe into deep water and then fucked him up and stopped him. But not Hearns. He said, I'm gonna jump right in your face, motherfucker. Like, they didn't like each other. No, they didn't. And didn't Hearns break his hand? Like, that's why he couldn't keep punching. He broke his hand on Hagler's head. Yeah. And he hurt Hagler. Yeah. He stunned Hagler in

the first round, but Hagler had a preposterous chin. Yeah. Preposterous. His only knock down his entire career was a bullshit knockdown i forget who it was that knocked him down but uh some argentinian dude but it was a bullshit knockdown it was a fake knockdown it was like a slip and then he moved to italy and started making movies just banging italian chicks if you go to italy man i know you realize you're like why am i trying so hard? Yeah, there ain't nothing bad about it. Yeah, yeah.

The night Marvin Hagel was not knocked down. That's a fucking stain on his record, man. They should go back and remove that. It was not a knockdown. You see, are they going to play it? Play it. Let's watch. Oh.

See if you can find the knockdown. It's a bullshit fucking knockdown. They don't have a clip of Roald Dahn knocking down Marvin Hagler? Marvin Hagler still beat his ass. He had ridiculous muscles on the side of his head that was like he was built with, like, he was born with headgear. His temples. with like he was born with headgear his temples they said the the muscles that surrounded his temples were three times larger than a normal person's yeah well that happens right certain athletes oh for sure man some guys have bigger dicks born yeah yeah just show it real quick

let's see here bullshit knockdown i mean he just like pushed down the back of his head. Are they going to show it? No. Oh, they're going to show it in between rounds. Yeah, just let it go for a second here. What'd you do? I was trying to go back. I just want to see that replay. Yeah, show just in between rounds, they'll show it on the replay.

So he went back to his corner. 48 KOs in his 62 fights. And he's one of the few guys that when he lost to Sugar Ray Leonard, he just went, fuck this. And I don't think he lost that fight. I've watched that fight a few times. I thought it was a decision for Hagler.

It should have been a decision for Hagler. Look at this. See? He's totally slipped. Total slip. He mostly missed the punch. He raised the top of his head. Raised the punch. And's totally slipped. Yeah, he slipped. Total slip. He mostly missed the punch. Yeah, he grazed the top of his head. Grazed the punch. And Hagler slipped.

See, he just kind of pushed him down with his forearm and Hagler bounced right up. That is not a knockdown, you motherfuckers. But he took some bombs from Mugabe. Mugabe was murdering people at the time. But, you know, we were talking about football players. Boxers is another one where they don't know when to let it go. Like, you can only take so many punches to the head. Yeah.

And then they fight as well. Chuck Liddell's talking about making a comeback now. Yeah. You get hooked on the fame, but you got to, at some point, you got to. And it's not even when they get old. It's when they get to, like, 50. Like, late 40s or 50. Not even that.

I mean, Ldell's talking about making a comeback now at 48 and i think he's been out of the fight game for at least five or six years the ufc gave him a no um like sort of a no-show job yeah for a while and they said look you don't have to work you just come in do some events every now and then you get a chunk of money every month And so he was living off that and doing really well with that But then the UFC sold and when the UFC sold they killed those jobs Hmm this whole fucking UFC sold thing is so crazy because they bought it for four billion dollars Billion like to make the monthly nut they had had to cut 100 jobs from the UFC. 100 people got fired.

And now they got to figure out some way to build it. Well, it's not just that. It's like you got to make payments every month. So they sold some more of it off. They sold some more of the assets off to some other corporations or some other people. And I'm glad I don't have to deal with that shit, dude. I just show up and talk. Yeah.

I don't envy the people that have to deal with the bean counters and the money. The business side, yeah. I mean, what is worth $4 billion? Star Wars. Yes, yeah. Somewhere you could just sell it in a million different ways. Right, Star Wars, and it was, like, worth it. Yeah.

Like, I bought Star Wars for $4 billion, and I'm making money. Yeah. Like I bought Star Wars for $4 billion and I'm making money. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, Disney bought that. Yeah. But then they put Star Wars rides

and like they license all this shit. It's Disney. You know, you can You ever do that? Star Tours? You can get Jar Jar Binks to come to your birthday party.

There's a whole team of them probably. Have you done that ride at Disneyland? Yeah. When's the last time you've been at Disneyland? You sit down on that ride and you go through it.

It's like a virtual reality Star Trek ride. I did it earlier this year. Star Wars ride? Yeah. That ride is awesome. Yeah. I mean, again, when Disney does something, they're going to do it, right? The movies, there's not going to be any more of those Jar Jar Binks movies or any of that.

Disney's like, yeah, we're going to handle this. Yeah, that guy didn't work out. He's in the Star Tours movie though Yeah that thing the little thing when you sometimes you've run into him like underwater is drowning and everybody gets excited But it's but the quality of movies went back up. Oh, yeah for sure, you know, they don't play games Yeah, a lot of money invested. They're doing a wars park at disneyland yeah some gigantic fucking huge thing it was uh it was what was it used to be called tomorrowland or something like that it was something else and they're converting it and making the whole thing into star wars yeah they said it's going to be open in like two years it's going to be insane i don't know how old you are

but do you remember when the first movie came so yeah you remember when the first movie came out fuck yeah like like think about that. Think about George Lucas. Like, I'm going to make a movie that's going to change culture. It is literally going to bring, like, change language. Like, we're going to have, you know, things we talk about, right? Like, Jedi mind tricks and the Force. And it's got to be mind-boggling to sit back and say yeah i created

this whole thing got to be mind-boggling but do you think he set out to do that i mean he set out to just make i don't think he did no he just set out to make a great movie and hit all the buttons for people everything for for generations yeah you know generations to be like you know he had all the things he had the rebel with the fucking giant gorilla that followed him around. Yep. The gun. The wise Yoda. Old wise Yoda.

He had the wise Yoda. He had the old man who was the master who was showing him how to do it. The master dies. No. One of the greatest villains of all time. Oh, the best. The guy who killed people with his mind. Yeah.

Yeah. And he fucking, you didn't even see his eyes you couldn't see anything no emotions he just yeah that's all he did he just he would breathe he would breathe that was the shit and imagine being a stormtrooper just an average stormtrooper and you hear this coming down the hall you're like oh shit i might die i might die like i don't know if i did my job right. Or maybe he just needs to make an example. You ever try watching it today, though?

It's so corny. It's not. But it's only still great because it brings back the memory of how great it was. But no, it's not the movie it was then. But back then, we'd never seen anything like that. Jump into hyperspace oh yeah it's amazing the special effects were terrible did you ever see um darth vader with the actor's voice the actual actor yeah no yeah you can see it on youtube exactly oh no he's not

exactly because you know the actor had to do the lines for the other actors. Right. That's funny. Not quite the impact of James Earl Jones. James Earl Jones. Like, what a voice that guy has. Ving Rhames is the modern version of that. Like, Ving Rhames does a lot of voiceover stuff for the UFC. And, you know, he does a lot of that. Who are you telling? You're talking to a guy with a voice who can't get a job.

Because of Ving Rhames? Because of Ving Rhames and those guys do it. Yeah. Yeah. Because of Ving Rhames. And, you know, I lost one to Danny Glover and I'm like if I ever meet him, I'm like, man, you got lethal

weapon money. You didn't need this. This is a Guinness beer commercial. I needed that. It's competition out there, bro. Nobody's going to lay down for you. Nobody. That's not how it works, especially not in the voiceover game. I got to start punching people in the throat. The voiceover game's a weird game, right? There's some dudes like, you know who's an interesting one?

Is the guy from Ray Dunovan. Fuck's his name. Lave Schreiber. Yeah. Lave? How do you say it? Lave? Lave?

Lave Schreiber. But he's really good at it. He does a lot of the UFC ones for Fox. And I can never remember his name, but Donald Sutherland. Oh, yeah. Tons. He's the voice of Delta. Is he dead now?

He's the voice of Juice. Is he dead now? Donald Sutherland? No. Is it Donald Sutherland? Am I saying it right? Is that the right actor? The guy with the white hair.

Donald Sutherland is the guy who was in Invasion of the Body Snatchers. Maybe. Still alive? Yeah, 82. Yeah, I think it's the same guy. He just did the Hunger Games movies. He was like the president in the Hunger Games. That's the guy, right? He's in a movie with Helen Mirren?

Yeah. Yeah, that guy, he does a ton. Whenever I think of him, I think of Invasion of the Body Snatchers. Oh! The end, when he became one of the guys. And you know who's getting paid? The guy who does the Allstate.

There's another one that I could have done. Dennis Hayworth. I could have done that for a lot less money. You're the only one who knows his name. A friend of mine used to work with him on a series. That's why I know his name. You can go to any mall in America. Who's the Allstate guy?

He was also in Major League. Pedro Serrano. That's how I know him. He You can go to any mall in America. And he was also. Who's the Allstate guy? He was also in Major League. Yeah, Pedro Serrano. That's how I know him. Yeah, he was Serrano in Major League. He's got the bat in Joe Boo. God, I don't remember that at all. I barely remember Major League. No, Major League was great.

Oh, yeah, that's him. Major League. I love that movie. That was a fun fucking movie. That's one of those movies that if you're flicking channels and it's on, I'm watching it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Charlie Sheen, Back Before the Crack. Yep. movie. That's one of those movies that if you're flicking channels and it's on, I'm watching it. Yeah. Charlie Sheen, Back Before the Crack. Yep. Wesley Snipes when he was paying taxes.

Yeah. Just replaced him in the second one. Tried to act like it wasn't. Omar Epps played the same character in the second one. Really? They replaced Wesley? Wesley had a bunch of issues. There was a great Patton Oswalt bit he does about being in Blade II and about how they replaced Wesley Snipes halfway in the movie. Like, it's Wesley Snipes, I don't know, allegedly was fucking around with coke or something.

And just was completely off his rocker. You know, it was a weird time for him. I got a friend who grew up with him. I mean, literally, Wesley was sleeping on his couch when he got his first American Express commercial, his first acting job. Whoa.

Yeah. And then he got, I forgot what movie, he did some movie, I think it was a fight movie or something like that, and he kind of disappeared. And my buddy's wife, she's always like, you better never Wesley snipe us. You better not disappear.

This is his first movie? Commercial for Western Union. Yeah, it was. Look at that. Commercials. Commercial money was always a big thing, right? If you got a national commercial back then, you got paid. Back that up a hair? The scene where the pipe was going off.

God damn. Hilarious. Look at the computer. God, look at the computer back then. It's a Western Union. A lot of punching numbers into a terminal. Got to get that bail money somehow. That's our lifetime.

In our lifetime, things have changed so radically. Just stop and think about 30 years before that. It wasn't much different. It was a little different, but not like it is now. Think of our parents' lifetimes. Yeah, exactly. To go from radio, like to have lived from radio to the internet yeah you know not that my mom will mess with the internet your mom doesn't fuck with the internet

we tried her church started doing the bulletins online so we gave her a smartphone like a few years ago i gave her one of those um what do they call it the cricket phone oh yeah where it has like four numbers on yeah and that's all you do. And well, they made a smartphone version and it literally has one button that says email, a button that says text, a button that says pictures and a button that says call. And it's like,

mom, I can't like, this is the simplest we could do. She wouldn't do it. She won't mess with it. Wow. Man, for a long time,

you know, my mom was still like, talk fast. It's long distance. You know, it was like like talk fast it's long distance you know it was like don't worry mom i got this i got long distance money i ain't rich but i got long distance money that's right remember when law remember when roaming like you would drive your car an hour outside of where your coverage area was you'd you'd be fucked. If you got AT&T, you still got roaming. Man, AT&T, they used to just rape me when I traveled. It was ridiculous.

Really? Oh, and forget when you went to the festival in Montreal. It's like, listen, I'm going to need my pay plus some AT&T money. Right. Because I might make a call. If you make one call. Yeah, I know a lot of dudes who used their phone overseas

and didn't know know and they got a $1,000 bill when they got back home. Like $1,000 for phone calls. I know one guy, he used his data. Like he kept using his phone like it was... He had a $3,000 bill when he came back from Montreal.

His data was on 24-7 for like 8 days. How could they charge you that much? That is just rude. Well, they cut it in half or something like that, but it was still unreal. Oh, they give you a break. Unreal.

So sweet of them. Yeah. But it's interesting that competition has sort of erased that whole roaming thing. Because more people were jockeying for a share of the market. Verizon, AT&T, T-Mobile, all these different people and players, Sprint, and they just had to make some concessions for competition. Well, the next big test

is going to be a $1,000 iPhone. Right? Because if people pay it, then that's what phones are going to cost. Well, isn't that new Samsung Galaxy Note 8, isn't that similarly priced? They're both going to be up there. Yeah, they're basically computers. That Note 8 is pretty fucking sweet,

man. They're badass, but that's a big jump. That's basically you're doubling the price of a cell phone. Is it? I mean, what are the new ones now? I think new ones now are $500 to $600. I don't think they are full price. If you just buy it. But that's the point. But now you're not going to get that.

You know, because it's always been you get the discount if you sign up for two years or so that. Well, apparently with this one, it's going to be just you got to just buy the phone. They're just getting greedy. Yeah. So I think it's a test because if people don't go for it, then they'll be like, oh, well, we got to go back to the old model. Then they'll be like, oh, well, we got to go back to the old model. Would you be willing to pay more money for a phone if you knew that the phone was made by people that got paid a living wage? Yeah.

I would. Yeah. I'm all about that, man. I'm fine with paying more for something to take care of the employees. That's the best argument for made in America. You know, that made in America argument is like some people look at it as patriotism or nationalism. And I could see that. But there's also the argument if it's made in America, then people have to get paid at least a minimum wage. Well, you know who said it?

And it's been lost. And I think it's one of his great quotes. Henry Ford. Henry Ford said, never forget, you have to pay them enough to buy the cars. Ah, that's a smart quote. And they forgot. Henry Ford was a wizard. Yeah.

Henry Ford also figured out that you can make fenders out of hemp, and they're far superior to metal. There's an old video. You ever see the old video of his first car? No. His first car that he made had fenders made out of hemp, and he's banging it with a hammer. And the hammer's just about—hemp is—forget about whatever anybody feels about marijuana. Fucking stoners are always trying to push it on us. Just hemp itself as a textile, as a commodity. Hemp, when they use hemp to make things out of,

hemp is a very strange fiber. If you had a piece of hemp like the size of this water bottle, it's a large water bottle, right? If you had a piece of hemp that was that thick, it would be hard like oak, but light like balsa wood. It's fucking weird. So it's similar to bamboo? It's similar to bamboo, it's similar to bamboo but

stronger much stronger it's a very very strange it's the impact is 10 times stronger than steel hemp plastic panels now you go see if you can find the video it's a crazy video just because in the video he's banging on this fucking fender with a hammer. Well, it's a crazy video because he had an iPhone to make videos in 1910. Ah, God, God, God. No, that shit is. He probably had a dude on a truck filming this. With one of those things.

They probably had to crank it back then, right? Yeah, he had to crank it, yeah. Yeah, he probably did. Like, that's his car. Actually, pretty dope car if you had that today. Drive around that bitch, let everybody know. Look at this. He's whaling on it with a fucking hammer and it just bounces off.

And it's completely sustainable. You can plant it in an area and regenerate it within a year. Whereas if you have the same issue with trees, you try regenerating an area with trees, it takes decades. So is it, well, I guess it would be more similar to bamboo than fiberglass. Yes. More similar to bamboo than fiberglass, but superior to both of those things. It's fucking amazing. Fiberglass cracks and breaks.

Oh, yeah, I know. It's light like fiberglass, but far stronger. I had a Corvette that the fender just cracked and broke off. Oh. I have a Corvette. I have an older one. You've got a magnificent one. Yeah. Who made a car recently out of hemp?

Lotus. Lotus made a hemp car really recently. And people were hoping that other manufacturers are going to start using this because it's actually safer. It's stronger than fiberglass, safer than fiberglass, and it's like similar in terms of its weight. So that stripe down the middle is exposed. There's photos where you could see it more clearly, Jamie. See if you like just. Yeah, there it is so that that is what the actual fiber looks like where it's not

painted and and um sealed or it's just sealed rather but not uh colored so you can see the fiber it's it's incredible stuff man and it doesn't fuck with the environment it's actually good it's a cleaner process so why is it not being used? Because it's connected to marijuana. That's the only reason. It's just publicity. Yeah. Well, it's just bad publicity. Up until very recently, hemp was illegal to grow in the United States. Now, I know this for a fact because my company on it, we had to buy all of our hemp from Canada. When we sell hemp protein, which is one of the best versions of protein that you can get in plant-based form because it has a full amino acid profile, very easy to digest. And if you get high quality hemp hearts, like the stuff that we sell, really easy going

down. Like it doesn't fuck with you or give you gas. Like some people have issues with like whey protein if they have any sort of lactose intolerance. Some people just doesn't agree with them. Hemp is very easy to digest. I mean, I take a hemp protein shake and I'll go to the gym like an hour later and have no issues working out pretty hard Whereas some stuff just see you. Oh, I fucked up. I fucked up eating but Because of all the laws that have been in existence since the 1930s regarding hemp and marijuana

That's one thing that a lot of people don't even realize is the laws were actually put in place to stop hemp as a commodity, not really to stop marijuana. They stopped marijuana to stop hemp. I mean, it was all done by William Randolph Hearst. This fucking asshole in the 1930s ruined things in 2017 with propaganda. Even the term marijuana was never used.

Marijuana was a wild Mexican tobacco. The reason why they used the term marijuana is because they could, instead of saying cannabis, which everybody already knew, instead of saying hemp, which everybody already knew, they said, well, there's this drug called marijuana, and these Mexicans and blacks are smoking this drug and raping all the white women. Yeah, that was literally what they said. Oh, yeah.

In the 13, that documentary, they talked about it. Fucking amazing. Same thing with opium and the Chinese from the railroads. Yeah. You know. That to this day is why hemp is such a problem in this country. All that bullshit from 1930 something is why we're still, we still have issues. So does the hemp protein, do you get high off of it

or anything it doesn't it's no thc whatsoever it's just the fiber from the stalks yeah it's not just curious to me personally i'm going to try it yeah oh hemp protein is amazing you know but i do have to tell you like cbds which uh you know are really great for pain and pain medication or pain um inflammation things along those lines. Some people, like Greg Fitzsimmons says he gets high off of it. And I don't understand that. He said he tries that Charlotte's Web CBD oil, which is full profile hemp oil.

He says it gets him high. He might be crazy. Greg. It's Fitz. Who knows? He's a silly boy. Things react differently to his metabolism. Yeah.

But if we were, you know, if we were reasonable and intelligent, we'd be making a shitload of things with hemp. The fiber is so easy to regenerate. It's so easy to grow. It's totally sustainable. It's healthy. Maybe that will change. I'm hoping. Maybe that'll change in time. We're slowly

waking up and getting rid of those well, like you said, the propaganda that created it. time. We're slowly waking up and getting rid of those, well, like you said, the propaganda that created it. Well, another thing is that you can make plastic with it. You can make degradable, biodegradable hemp plastic. Well, even weed.

I mean, you know, people, we've had legal weed, right? People aren't running the streets raping. I am. Well, yeah, but Joe, you might have been. I just smoke pot. I don't even know who I am. I wake up. I wake up covered in blood. right people aren't running the streets raping i am for well yeah but joe you might have been i just smoke pot i don't even know who i am it's like i wake up i wake up covered in blood joe there's an argument that it wasn't the weed yeah that's right here this this the idea that you know this is the one that's illegal it's so fucking crazy right you can just go to a liquor

store just you know go to a bar, almost anywhere you look. And that's the lobby. I read this crazy article about the weed thing in Vegas. Like they made a compromise with the liquor lobby that you had to have a liquor distributor license to distribute the marijuana, to literally take it to the dispensaries. And no one got the license, So they couldn't deliver it for, I mean, I'm sure they figured it out,

but initially like nobody could deliver it. Yeah. The liquor company was like, well, why would we deliver it? Like we don't want to, you know, we want you to drink. Well,

they were running into a shortage. It was so chaotic when they first started. They couldn't, they couldn't distribute it anywhere. It was crazy. They couldn't keep up with the demand either. It was just so insane. Oh, no doubt.

No doubt. And they still have the money issue, right? They still have the issue of the risk of putting it in the banks, especially with Sessions. Yeah. Sessions wanting to be some anti-weed guy. That little goofy elf. What a weird fucker that guy is. You know, it's just I like watching Trump shit on

him. You see him just sort of swallow it and eat it. In the beginning Trump was real high on him and then he wouldn't recluse himself because of the investigation of Russia. My favorite joke was when Roy Wood Jr. called Sessions a confederate monument.

That's a great joke. Yeah's he was a guy that was it was Ted Kennedy that was calling him a disgrace like back in the 1980s oh this guy was well he was too racist to be a judge like in the Reagan era you know and and I mean literally like Congress was like, no, like you're too far gone. And yeah, this guy has a long history of crazy. Yeah. Well, he wants to bring back the just say no days.

Yeah. Literally said that he wants to bring back the policy of just say no and the war on drugs. Yeah, the war on drugs, throwing people in jail forever. Just say no. Like he's still living in the Nancy Reagan days. It's amazing.

And that was probably progressive for him. You know what I mean? That was a lot. He's moved away from the far right. He's one of those guys that he wants it to be 1950.

That's his dream. That's when he was kicking ass. He was in high school back then. Getting all the ladies. Things were were good he wants it to be 1950 black people were segregated there were no Mexicans like Mexicans didn't even exist in the 1950s Ricky Ricardo was the closest thing we had to a Mexican

he was the only Latino in America and the Jets and the Jets at West Side Story isn't that crazy if Ricky Ricardo though was Cuban Cubans were completely respectable. It's like a man from Spain. Like a man from Spain coming over to America would be a Spanish gentleman. Right.

You know? It's like there's a difference. It's like when people started looking at Mexicans, it became this different thing. Well, Cuba was Vegas. Yeah, it was. Cuba was Vegas. My dad was around in that era when Cuba was where you went on vacation and gambling and all that stuff. The mob ran it all.

Yeah. That must have been weird times, huh? Yeah, it had to be crazy. They still have the cars from back then. And they keep them running with anything. Anything. You talk about engineers. Can you imagine if today you still had to keep a 1953 Chevy running with like, you know what I mean?

Lawnmower engines and shit. It's like, oh, you might think you're creative, but here's a 1953 Chevy, half of a boat engine and a lawnmower. Like this is literally the professor from Gilligan's Island where you just make shit work. Kids today don't remember that show they remember MacGyver they don't remember the professor from Gilligan's Island was the original motor professor used to like make machines out of bananas and palm fronds they had that show today everybody would be fucking nobody fucked back then no nothing ever happened on TV

ginger would just always have makeup on with everybody yes she had heels and the dress on and the smart people would look at marianne and go i don't want that i want marianne's the move that's the move you want her she's like low-key she's probably freaking bad but she's like she was probably banging gilligan you think so yeah in real life because no you figure the professor and the skipper were fighting over ginger all the time, right? And the hollows had each other. Yeah. So Marianne, she just, you know, slip in and out on Gilligan. What about skipper?

That poor fuck. Skipper just, hmm. Bizarre attacks in Havana hit U.S. spy network in Cuba. What is that? I just typed in this. I was looking at recent news, and this is coming out like yesterday. Attacks on U.S. spy network in Cuba. What is that? I was looking at recent news and this is coming out like yesterday. Attacks on U.S. personnel in Havana.

What is this? What's happening to them? Spies posted to the embassy under diplomatic cover, reported hearing bizarre sounds and experiencing Oh, this was audio attacks, right? They were hitting them with sound...

What happened? Experiencing even stranger physical effects. The United States This was audio attacks, right? They were hitting him with sound. Oh, shit. Sorry. What happened now? Experiencing even stranger physical effects, the United States realized something was wrong. Individuals familiar with the situation said, yeah, they're using some sonic weapon. Started within days of President Donald Trump's surprise election in November. Surprise election? Okay. surprise election in November.

Surprise election? Okay. The precise timeline remains unclear, including whether intelligence officers were the first victims hit or merely the first victims to report it. The U.S. has called the situation ongoing. To date, the Trump administration largely has described the 21 victims. Wow. At the U.S. Embassy, personnel or members of the diplomatic community.

That description suggested only bona fide diplomats and their family members were struck with no logical motivation beyond disrupting U.S.-Cuban relations. Yeah, it was some sort of a, see, they're not even describing what kind of attack it is. So it was some kind of sonic attack? Oh, here it is. Scroll down here. The first disturbing reports of piercing high-pitched noises and inexplicable ailments pointed to someone deliberately targeting the U.S. government's intelligence network on a communist-run island in what seems like a bone-chilling escalation of the tit-for-tat spy games the Washington and Havana have waged over the last half century.

Oh, there's an ad for me in New Year's. Interesting. Have you ever heard of the brown note? What's that? I thought that maybe it was getting at this, but I don't even know if it's actually real, but it sounds like it's real. It's a sonic note that can be used,

supposedly weaponized to make someone shit themselves. Oh, I did hear about that. When I was in audio school, I remember we were asking our teacher if that's a possibility or whatnot. And I don't know if we ever got anywhere realistic. Let's not test it while I'm here. How's that sound?

I don't know who your next guest is. You wouldn't know what to hear it. Because human hearing stops at 20 hertz, which is a low bass. And you have to have really good hearing To even hear that so if you do sound test someone will play That sound and it'll almost just sound like a pressure. You'll feel like a pressure change in your head I have a friend whose ears are fucked up my friend john dudley You know john dudley his ears are fucked up from guns

Like he shot a lot of guns when he was younger and he blew his hearing out But so he has a hard time hearing certain things, but he can hear really deep sounds way better than i can my hearing is good but he he's got like it's almost like you know when someone is blind they can hear better it's almost like that like his his hearing is fucked up but certain notes penetrate that don't get me like he can hear like hear, like, deep sounds. Like an animal grunting. And he's like, you hear that? I'm like, no. I don't hear anything. Like, you can hear shit that most people

can't hear. It's weird. It's very weird. Because most of his sound is fucked up. Yeah. So he just... Is that brown note real? That's why I was sort of asking if you'd ever heard of it. I have heard of it. That would be your best and worst podcast ever. The Brown Note podcast?

Yes. A bunch of people driving their cars, just shitting themselves on the train, shitting themselves on plates. Oh my God, that was amazing, but I hate it. Yeah, imagine you play it in the background of the most amazing podcast ever. You have some really cool person in here, really interesting subject. I remember Mythbusters tried to do this, and I think they used a really, really big sound system to try to recreate this low frequency because it's almost impossible to get,

and I think they didn't get very far with it. Because they don't have that government shit, bro. Stuff they're using in Cuba. Maybe that's what's going on. Those people are shitting themselves. They just don't want to say it. That's what I did. I was hoping it would say something like that.

Yeah, I wonder what the sonic attack is like do they point it at you you can they have that i know for sure the speakers that can be they can literally point it at you like across the street press a button it's the sound's going right at you and fucking with your ear yeah well sound is directional so that absolutely makes sense yeah how weird is that that they're doing? Who's doing that? Must be someone in the Cuban government doesn't want us over there. Just to fuck with the diplomats. The Yankee spies. Like they said, that is something that's always going on, though.

Just little games they play with each other. This says they couldn't even in Cuba. They couldn't even hear him. They just weren't. And they weren't even aware of an attack. There's later they had symptoms. Oh, wow. Probably probably hell of a headache I Would imagine yeah

How straight boy magic that gets in the wrong hands? What if that becomes like you know technology gets into the hands of regular people eventually like tasers and shake just go buy a taser How'd you get by some sound shit just point at your neighbor always mowing the lawn is art a taser. Imagine you could buy some sound shit and just point it at your neighbor while he's mowing the lawn. Do you know if EMP, is an EMP a real threat to like America or whatever? Like a Matrix style EMP wipes out

all the electronics in a certain area. With it is natural. Solar blasts. Any sort of solar flare. I mean, there's a massive potential for solar interruption of our entire power grid. Like some massive solar flare happens and just cooks all of our satellites.

The entire power grid, we have to start from scratch. We're down no power for months. The EMP, whoa, we're in Puerto Rico. Yeah. The EMP is real, but I think you have to create so much power to have one that big. I think that's the limiting factor on it. I had a guy in here, Peter Schiff was here. What is this?

It's the day the sun brought darkness. In Quebec, there was a blackout caused by solar flare. That was in the 90s? 89, it says. Ah, okay. The entire province of Quebec, Canada, suffered an electrical power blackout. Hundreds of blackouts occurred in some parts of North America every year. The Quebec blackout was different because this one was caused by a solar storm. Yeah. Apparently, what we've

tracked so far in terms of solar activity is just a tiny fraction of what the sun is capable of. The sun is capable of some pretty wild variations. And if those wild variations, if it hits like a real odd end, it could just fuck our entire system up. Well, we're at the mercy of nature. Always. You know, no matter how big our egos get over our creations, what we build, nature is like, you know, I'll wipe that shit out in a minute. You know what I mean? Like there's nothing. I used to do a joke about that. Like, oh, look at my beach house.

Beach houses are ridiculous. I stayed at one for a while. At nighttime, it reveals itself. In the daytime, it looks beautiful. Look at all that beautiful blue water. It's amazing. It's so pretty. Look at the seagulls.

The ocean. At night, it is a black monster it's like space it's a dark monster because you don't see anything and you realize like oh that is fucking quadrillions of gallons of water that could just swallow up the entire city tons of weight and pressure just like this you know it's like snow snow is the same way you know it's shut everything down just a major snowfall. But you don't live next to snow. That's the fucked up thing about living next to the ocean is you're literally on the edge.

But you can live in one of those places that gets hit with 10 feet of snow, 12 feet of snow, and you're screwed. Yeah, but you can see that shit coming and get out of Dodge. But we don't. No. But the water thing is crazy because all those rich people live on the edge. Yeah. That's the same thing with earthquakes. I told my mom a long time ago, like she'd be, are you okay?

I said, mom, let's hope one day I make enough money to live somewhere I have to worry about, you know, fires. You know what I mean? Like I live in a valley. I'm fine. Like I wish I had to worry about fires. Do you keep water? There's no brush clearing. A little bit.

No, I don't have a full kit. I have a Red Cross kit and a couple of gallons of water. But I'm going to expand on that. I have some food, some freeze-dried food. You know, a guy who went through Katrina told me cash. Cash? He said keep cash in the house. He said after Katrina, milk was $100 a gallon.

$100? Yeah. Whoa. Yeah, he said you got to keep a large sum of cash in the house as part of your disaster kit. Something I never would have thought of. But he said, yeah, if there's a disaster, the price of everything goes up and cash is the only currency. Like you can't use credit cards if there's no electricity. Wasn't there an issue in Houston where people were getting arrested for price gouging on water and shit like that?

Yeah, they were charging, I don't know, what was it, 90 bucks a case, I think, for water and $100 a gallon for gas or something. It's human nature. What are you going gonna do with us i wish we could wrap this up on a nice note but i gotta i gotta end this all right anything good to say to people uh yeah yeah be be nice to be nice to people you know you know what bothers no seriously it's this is a little thing but you know what bothers me don't if you're in elevator, don't hit the door close button. Yeah. That's just the asshole button. It's just an asshole.

There's no time to door close. That's an asshole move. People like it, though. They like to press that button and see someone almost held it, but hold it. Oh, you went away. That's how I'm changing the world, Joe. That's how I'm changing. Listen, I can't solve gun violence. I can't help with the football protests or anything.

But if you can just not press the door close button, it's a start. But there are some dumb motherfuckers with like four kids when the elevator is completely packed. Like, hold the door. Hold the door. Like, where are you going? No. Where are you going? Where are you going?

And if your kid presses every button on the elevator and he accidentally takes one to the head, we can't be held responsible. See? See, I'm not saying that. His head is elbow height. We're just moving. I'm not saying that. He got in the way of moving. I'm just saying stay away from the door close button.

Don't press that door close button, ladies and gentlemen. That's strong advice from Alonzo Bowden. It's the wings of a butterfly that eventually become a hurricane. You letting someone in that elevator might change the course of history. Think about it. It's like when Peter Parker let that burglar pass by and it killed his Uncle Ben. Boom. And it turned him into Spider-Man.

Exactly. Yeah. All right. Strong words. I like it. Alonzo Bowden, ladies and gentlemen. Thanks, Joe. Thank you, brother.