The Joe Rogan Experience - #1102 - Matt Farah

Episode Date: April 11, 2018

Matt Farah is a car enthusiast and the host of "The Smoking Tire" seen on YouTube and also a podcast available on Spotify.

I got this all day. I know you do. Boom. Live. Okay. What the fuck were you just telling me? Hi, Joe. Hi, Matt Farah.

What's happening? How are you, buddy? Good to see you again, man. We were just talking about Rolls-Royce. Yeah. Because I was here in your new baller studio, which congratulations. Thank you. It's sick.

Admiring your skylights, and we were discussing the Rolls-Royce and the star field ceiling they do. Yeah. Which is they put all these fiber optic lights into your headliner and it looks like the stars. And it's, I think it's 15 grand option. I think it's so bad.

It's so bad. It's so bad. And not only will they do it so you can get your standard star pattern, which is just whatever the guy just random, bright, random lights, or they'll make you exact constellations if you prefer. Right.

Like if you're one of those astrology people. Yeah. Or they will make you, you know, the sky directly above your house if you give them a coordinate. There's a photo of it. Look how badass that looks. So badass. It's like, it's so awesome. You're balling so hard when you're driving around with a car with stars in the roof.

Well, so the last thing I said before you hit live was that they have just announced they have come out with a shooting star. So I don't know how it works. I'm not sure exactly what. But I guess you can get shooting stars in your ceiling. That is crazy. What are they going to do? Make the whole thing a big LCD pattern or something? something yeah i guess or i don't know i guess you can you could run an led or a fiber optic line that that works in a some kind of a train i i emailed once i got that press

release because i get press releases and i just delete them i don't you know but when i saw shooting star ceiling i responded can i have further info and video on this and they said they'd get back to me so i've never even been in one of those things never no no you must you must what is it like in there it's like sailing it's like yachting phil hartman had a really really old i think it was an old bentley i mean like really like 60s old older than that like 30s. Like 60s old? Older than that. Like 30s old? It was fucking old, man. I wish I paid attention to cars back then.

But back then was when I just started getting on TV. I really didn't. You know, when I was broke, I always loved cars when I was a kid. But then I was broke. My attitude was like, don't think about some shit you're never going to be able to afford. Yeah. So just don't think about it. Look at you now, Joe Rogan, with all the toys and somewhere to park them.

Somewhere to park them. But he had this old baller-looking thing. It was like something out of Citizen Kane. Oh, yeah. Just this incredible boat. Like pontoon fenders, the whole deal. I think he shifted it on the tree. Probably.

I would say, if I had to guess something baller that Phil, like I would say Bentley Continental S1 would be the most likely. It might've been. Candidate. I don't know what it was. It's a stunning automobile. But he loved that thing. He would just have this giant smile on his face with that thing.

He was like, this is so ridiculous. I can picture that Phil Hartman smile. Oh, he loved it, man. That dude loves cars. That's great. Phil Hartman's bit. Like that he loved it, man. That dude loves cars. That's great. Phil Hartman's bit. Like that? Something along those lines.

I wish I could remember, because like I said, back then, like if you asked me to, like, there's cars that I don't know shit about, like Rolls Royces or Bentleys. But if you showed me like an old Porsche, I'd be like, oh, that's a 73 long nose. Yeah, I know that one. Well, we all have our areas of nerddom. Like muscle cars, I'm a good muscle car guy. I understand most muscle cars. I could pick them out in a lineup.

Well, Bentley and Rolls-Royce are a weird one because they have sort of this intertwined history where they were separate and then they became together and then they became separate again. So there's a lot of Rolls-Royces and Bentleys that are mostly the same car. That's like super baller level where you're like okay look forget about it let's just get a car that's makes no sound like you can't hear anything rolls are really amazing cars they're so fucking cool dude i can imagine and even like to a lot of car guys especially like you know you are such like a manual transmission you know you want your car i know you you want your car to be like really close to a race car i like it being dirty right i could be in gritty like i want to i want to feel the rocks

as i drive over them right well you would you would appreciate a rolls royce's ability to make a hundred percent of that disappear you know what i'm saying like disappear entirely and like there's really neat details and like you are the word flying or floating or sailing is so true because you don't really drive it. You just kind of fucking will it down the road. And you know how your Porsche or a sports car will have the thumb grips on the wheel at nine and three? Yeah. So Rolls-Royce has thumb grips at four and eight. Really?

You drive them underhand. Gangster. Everybody drives them underhand? You drive them underhand. Let me feel this. Here, I'm just... It's that you... Yeah.

It's underhand. Yeah. Just so relaxed. Because you don't even lift your arms above shoulder height. And then, you know, your car has a tachometer, right? It shows you your rpms is a rough indicator of how much power you're using right roughly not exactly but before people go crazy about the lack of a technical term rolls royces don't have tachometers they have a power

reserve gauge which shows you how much power the car has but that you are not using at any given time. Whoa. Right? So if you're coasting along, it's at 100. Going down a hill, maybe. You're just off the gas, off the brake, coasting. There you go. Power reserve.

So if you're coasting, you are using 0% of your engine. Right. And the idea is to keep that gauge low because you want to be able to pass cars and cruise down the road while using 25% of this car's engine power. Wow. So pimp.

And they're stupid horsepower, right? Like crazy power, right? Not like crazy, crazy, but like 4 to 500. So high. Yes, high. High horsepower. High torque.

Isn't that funny that saying that is not that hard for a car of today? Oh, our standards are blown out. Our standards are the internet has fucked us all up. I was reading about a new Miata, which by the way, might be like one of the most underrated cars ever. The new Miata? It's lovely. Just any Miatas.

Yeah, they're great. Like for the bang for the buck, for a fun little car to drive that kind of is real nimble, gets around, they're fucking great. But it was only like 150 horsepower. Yeah, there it is. That's the new Miata. 160 horsepower, I think. That's like, you hear that and you're like, what? Yeah, but do you know there's a company in Colorado called Flying Mi and miata you know them right yeah you know where i'm going with this

yeah they put an ls3 in one of these so i drove one that has a 575 horsepower ls3 and it's fucking great that must be insane it's great you know why because it's got these long legs you know like it's a little car but it's got the Corvette long legs so you're you know third gear is good for like 90 it's great now when you drive it a car like that is the balance fucked up by the engine no no it's actually similar weight it the it's I think them I think the LS conversion is like I don't want to say exactly but it's like maybe that's the older car jamie that they do it to a newer one as well it's like it's a few extra pounds in the front but actually

they have to use the rear differential from a camaro so a lot of the extra weight goes in the back and so the car's maybe a hundred pounds heavier with the v8 in it, but it's four times the power. What is the weight of a Miata? Like a standard? 2350? That's so light. You see that thing in the picture was called an Exocet, which is, so that exoskeleton thing that says Flying Miata on it. Oh, this is

an interesting photograph, actually. Sorry podcast people. We've got two vehicles on a track from Flying Miata. The one in front is a an exoskeleton car with really no body work on it at all and that's called an exoset and so what is you buy that chassis and you buy a miata and you take apart the miata and you put all the miata shit on this chassis and so you end up with like a 1200 pound thing and you can put turbos and you can put v8s and you can do all different kind of stuff.

Is it street legal? Yes, it is. What? Street legal, carb legal. And then the thing behind it is called a Bauer Catfish. Did you say carb legal, like as far as like emissions? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, if you use a carb legal like the E-Rod engine like John Ward likes or the stock Miata engine, for sure, yeah, if you use a carb-legal engine, it's a carb-legal.

It's California-legal. That's crazy. I've driven them. They're fast, but, you know, nothing about Exocet's design should be taken from this statement, I don't feel safe in them. You know what I'm saying? Just because you're just out there in the open. Yeah, it's just, to me, you me, I like having a body around me.

But it's way safer than a motorcycle. True. But a motorcycle, I was thinking about this. A motorcycle offers an experience that cannot be replicated. Right. And if you are going to take the kind of risks involved in riding a motorcycle, that experience is kind of risks involved in riding a motorcycle that experience yeah is kind of worth it in in to to me in short bursts whereas i don't think the experience of driving a car with no body

on it is worth you i don't think it is either but fuck because you can get a lot of awesome car with body work yeah but it's also like the the thrill of the motorcycle it's like it is either you either have it or you don't yes you're either in a convertible or you're on a motorcycle yeah and the and the leaning of course is is really and is that thing any more thrilling than a regular convertible honestly i mean it's faster um it's not faster than all convertibles no but i mean the having the no uh you know the no roof I mean, you definitely feel connected to the elements. It's crazy. And you can go, because it's so light, you can use a relatively mundane engine and go very, very fast.

Imagine 1,200 pounds. Yeah, it's nothing. I mean, it's nothing. It looks like so much fun. Imagine a Corvette engine in that thing. Oh, my God. Which you can do. That's so crazy. Yeah. People are crazy. I drive some shit that thing. Oh my God. Which you can do. That's so crazy. You know, I mean. That's so crazy.

Yeah. People are crazy. I drive some shit that is dangerous. I know. Your one take video series that you do where people let you drive their fucking crazy hot rods. I know. Souped up cars.

Like, woo. I've just retired from driving people's personal cars. You should. Yeah. Good for you. What is this? I just saw this. I might go to Reno and drive this.

What the fuck is this? This is these weird software guys built this thing in Reno. That's called a Teslanda. That's a... Did you hear anything? No, you didn't. It's electric? That is a Tesla drivetrain in a 1981 Honda.

And it weighs 2,200 pounds. And it runs like an 8 second quarter mile. That is hilarious. Awesome, right? I just love that there's people like that out there. The nerds are winning. Oh, they're winning, 100%.

Yeah, the Teslanda. Yep. So, you know, weird shit. But I figured I have rolled the dice, you know? You got to know when to walk away, know when to run, know when to count your money. Yeah. I think the dealing's done. I'm sure.

Yeah. Good for you. You made out. You're one of the rare few that beat Vegas. Right? I mean, either I decide when to stop or a lawyer does. You know? That's so true.

What we were talking about is just so amazing that the horsepower wars, because of their steady increase every year, you come out with a 2018 Corvette, people expect it to be faster. It's got to be faster than the 217. Come on, man, we got the same thing. Well, hey, fucking Ford just put a new engine in the Mustang 350 GT. So there's always something.

Hey, they got the GT500 coming. Well, shit, we're going to go up to 900 horsepower. Isn't it crazy that it's just money? Not even a lot of money. Like you can get a Hellcat for used Hellcat, like 45 grand. You know what I mean? Like 600 bucks a month, 700 bucks a month. And you got 700 horsepower.

You hooked me up with one of those when I was in Denver, when I was filming my Callie Central special. I drove a red Hellcat to the mountains. I remember that. With a astronaut's outfit on. Fast, right? Dude, they're great. It's a great car.

Now they have a wider, have you seen the wider body work? I like that. And so it's actually got quite a lot more tire under it. That's what I, that was if I had a complaint. It doesn't have that muscle car ass. I like a car with a muscle car ass. The wide body Hellcat does, yeah. There's something about those fat tires in the rear, man.

As an old school muscle head dork, that's what you want. I saw Motorator Matt D'Andrea. He's on Adam Carolla's podcast. He's on Car Guys. He just posted a picture on Twitter. He saw your old sick fish spotted somewhere. That's funny. It was in a bit of a sad state, honestly.

Oh, was it really? Yeah, it was a little tired looking. Beat up? According to the picture. Yeah. Someone had. That's unfortunate. Yeah.

It was a cool looking car when that thing came out. Yeah, that football player, Reggie, what's his name? Bush? Reggie Bush. He bought it. Oh, really? He bought it off the guy that I sold it to. I think it's been around.

Yeah. It's a, it's a great looking car. around yeah it's a it's a great looking car that that year like all those years like 70 71 those those second generation barracudas that's a special look and i think a lot of the hellcat is in that oh for sure same kind of it's pretty close it's pretty close but i really wish it was the same size a hellcat is 125 or 130 inflated over inflated scale version of that that's those 70 71 um Kudas are are the most valuable muscle cars that there are today those Hemi ones right yeah the Hemi Kudas are the rarest and most valuable of the of those they they're the ones that only get uh over over over like a million usually.

That's incredible. For a car that was, what, $30,000 new back in 1970? I think it was $5,000 new. Was it? Was it $5,000? I don't know. My reverse math doesn't go back that far, really. Let's take a guess.

Let's take a guess. I think it was like $5,000 to $6,000 wouldn't be out of the question. For a Hemi Cuda. All right. For the big motor, let's go with 8,500. 8,500 bucks. Okay. You go with 8,500.

What did I say? 30,000? I'm going to re-evaluate. I think you need to re-evaluate. I'm going to say 15. That would be a 426 Hemi Cuda. I'm going to play a dirty game of Price is Right. I'm going to go right above him.

I'm going to go right above him with 15,000. Is Jamie coming in with a dollar? Fucking us all up. Winning the show. He said $426,000. $426,000. Hemi Kuda. Which year?

1970. 70. Yeah, that's the good year. Well, the two years are my favorite years, 70 and 71. Roughly the same, I think, aren't they? 71's got four headlights. Oh, look at you, Joe Rogan. Yeah.

70 also has the smaller grill face. Like the teeth are small in the front, which is what I had. I had a 70. Whereas 71 has the full grill face. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's really more aggressive. I think 71 might be a little bit better looking, to be honest with you. I can't recall if one year is more valuable than

the other. 71, I think, is probably the best looking. Are the results in, Jamie? Window sticker. Original. Yeah. 34.33. $3,433. the best look are the results in jamie window sticker yeah original yeah 34 33 3433 oh my god the double jamie's one dollar would have won it that's the car it is yeah jamie pull up 1971 barracuda nose that is uh that's my i think my favorite look in any muscle car is the 1971 Barracuda. It's just like this aggressive American looking grill. Look at that, son.

I mean, that is about as fucking aggressive as a grill can get. It's got a mouth full of teeth. It looks like a Barracuda. It really does. It really does. They fucking nailed it, man. They were better at actually I think naming things What they looked like back then God damn that looks good

I do still think the Corvette Stingray looks Stingray-ish I think that still works That looks like a fucking Barracuda though Yes it does That looks like it's gonna get you I just found a way for you to spend another million dollars Joe Rogan I would never buy one of those

I don't like I'm weird with shit I don't like, I'm weird with shit. I don't like stock old cars. Well, because they drive like garbage? Could that be why? Yeah, I have zero interest in them. You got your Vette, right? Yeah. But that's like a modified pro-touring chassis and all that stuff, right?

100%, yeah. And it's got a LS1 in it. Oh, so it drives like a normal car. Supercharged, yeah. Yeah, it drives like a normal car. Have you ever driven a stock one of that year? No. It's not good.

You're lucky. There's a guy up the street. He hates me. Why? We live in the same block, and he's got an original. He's one of those original guys. He drives around with a paperboy hat on and drives around the neighborhood. Oh, no.

Does he set up a lawn chair at Cars and Coffee and play fucking sock hop music? Fuck those people. Dude, the look he had on his face when I told him that none of it was original except the shell outside. I go, it looks original. It doesn't have a goddamn thing in it. The inside, I guess, the shape of the dashboard's original. Fuck him.

Your car. I was like, look, man. I like them to drive like a car that works good. Yeah. Like, why is it bad to upgrade the brakes? No, it is not. You're fine. But this whole thing that it's somehow or another like doing a disservice to the vehicle

by upgrading the brakes. These people are assholes. It's not a museum piece, man. It's an awesome car. If you're going on the lawn at Pebble Beach, you keep it original. Yes. Other than that, I mean, especially look, you ever, I mean, you love the depths of the internet.

Look at Los Angeles driving circa 1960 and then Los Angeles driving today. You know, the heat, the traffic, all of it. An old car is not meant to handle that shit. You want to drive an old car here. You need to upgrade a few things. Cooling, brakes. When I find out that a dude just drives an old car, I give him an extra level of respect. You know what he's going through.

Yeah. Jimmy Smith, my partner in the UFC now. He used to work for Bellator. Now he works for the UFC. He drives a 1968 Firebird. Every day? Stock. Stock.

Stock seats. Stock brakes. Everything. I'm like, whoa. Does he know what he's missing? Have you let him drive your M5 yet? He doesn't give a fuck. He doesn't give a fuck.

He likes old muscle cars. He likes them the way they are. He had a Camaro, I think, and I think his Camaro got hit by some asshole and totaled it. So he's like, all right, get another one. There's guys in my hood. In Venice, where I live, there's a lot of old daily drivers for sure. Wow. But I don't know.

I can't do it. I just don't need that in my life. It's a different experience. You've don't need that in my life. It's a different experience. You've got to realize that you're not going to be able to hit the brakes real good. That's not worth it to me. I like to drive too close to the people in front of me. Well, even if something steps out in the road, you know, I mean, how many times you've been

driving and a deer steps out in front of your car? A bunch. I was driving down the road in a video that's been viewed about 3 million times and a guy was dragging a log on like a-foot chain behind a Ford Explorer. Oh, my God. Back and forth across the road. Oh, my God. Yeah, yeah.

What the fuck? It was, like, the most viewed video on Reddit for 24 hours. Oh, my God. It was crazy, just dragging a log. Like, a log, like, you know, 4 feet by two feet, giant tree trunk log. Fucking assholes out there. You can't have shitty suspension. Like, woof, woof.

Remember trying to turn in one of those cars? Yeah. It's literally like a boat. Oh, my God. Woof, woof. But you know what else is, like, tires is a big difference, too. Like, you know, old Porsches used to be called Widowmakers and shit. Like you know old Porsches used to be called widow makers and shit But you take one of those old 70s turbo Porsches that you know

There's volumes about how scary they are to drive and you put them on Michelin Pilot super sports, and you're like oh You've you thought 300 horsepower was scary. That's cute Scared of 300 horse. Oh, here's my log video look wait watch this boom log That is so crazy that is so goddamn crazy you're sitting there going what and i was in a supercharged lamborghini huracan making like 900 horsepower look at that and look at the road this guy is just free dragging a fucking log that guy does not seem wise but i totally ioked. I mean, I had an opportunity to throw a zinger there at this person

and instead I just talked to myself and drove away. No, you're better off. You're not going to fix that guy. If he's so stupid he's driving a giant log down a public road. Yeah. And look on the other side of the road. Look at the marks. Like the log actually, as I go up, you can see

the mark of dirt like moving back and forth across the road. It was easier to see the other way I guess but Jesus. Don't do that people. I mean I guess he couldn't pick it up. It looked too big. I don't see how that's an appropriate solution

when you can't pick something up. Why would he be so convinced that the log was going to stay attached to the chain? I don't know. How much does he know about logs and chains? He seemed like an advanced chain scientist in the specialty of logs. Fucking assholes

out there, man. Dragging a log behind a car on a public road. That's a big ass log, too. That looks like a four foot log, right? That chain is not going to hold up. That log is going to bounce and go through someone's fucking windshield. God damn, man.

Thank God it wasn't mine. This is crazy. Like, look how long it is behind his car. It's so crazy. And, I mean, not that we need to, like to like you know go back in the video but see that like trail of whatever it's leaves on the road there like that trail i had noticed starting like a couple like half a mile or so before that on the road and the trail is going back and forth across both lanes of traffic and there was like a couple little signs down. Yeah, that's not good too.

You're making obstacles for people that are driving, especially if you're on a motorcycle. If you're on a motorcycle and you're coming around there, you're going to kill somebody. Yeah, that's legit. Motorcycles don't want sand on the road. They just don't. And you're putting it on the road

100% with that stupid. Motorcycles also don't want to get clotheslined by logs and chains. Man, my buddy wiping out on a turn on some sand was one of the major reasons why. I was taking motorcycle safety classes. I was trying to get my license, and I was going to get me and a couple of my friends from Fear Factor. We were going to get motorcycles, a couple of guys that worked there. And then as things went on, we were like, fuck this.

Two of them went through with it two of us bailed alonzo boden is all about the bikes all about the bikes yeah and how many boats is he broken i don't know how then he broke his arm on a bike couple couple years ago i bet he did yeah he doesn't he doesn't seem to uh think it's a bad risk i ride i ride a scooter. I have a little Yamaha scooter that I ride around Venice and running errands and going to my office and stuff. Because I can lane split and it really makes my life a lot easier. But I'm

terrified. I had a motorcycle and I rode it in the canyons maybe four or five times. I was terrified. I have no problem pushing a car a little bit in the canyons, but on a bike, that gravel is like, whee! No thanks. It's really fun. really fun i get it motorcycle people i'm not saying you're wrong you're you're you're just braver than me yeah i've gone through or i've done i've gone through a lot of surgeries i know what it's like to rehab from serious injury i'm like i am just so not into that yeah

i've had i mean i've had two back surgeries in the same spot. You've had those disectomies, right? Yeah. How was that? Did it work for you? Yeah. Yeah. First one lasted like 11 years, and then my bad decisions led to it being re-injured, and the second surgery was fine.

I'm in the best shape now that I've been in in like 10 years. What are you doing? I do seven days a week of cardio. That's awesome. Congratulations. I built a gym in my house. Ooh.? I do seven days a week of cardio. That's awesome. Congratulations. I built a gym in my house. Ooh. I did.

Seven days a week of cardio. Yeah, I got one of those arc trainers. It's awesome. Is that sort of like an elliptical machine? It is. It's like the hardest elliptical machine I've ever used. Really? And I do like 45 minutes a day on that.

I used one of those really recently. It was great. It's amazing. I had a pre-core one before. Yeah yeah it's like a hotel pull up a video of that bad boy it's uh it's like a hotel quality yeah so no pounding you're getting your cardio in but your body's not getting no and i'm and i'll in 45 minutes i'll burn according to the machine i don't know how accurate these machine counters are but i'll burn like 850 calories in 45 minutes. And then I do three days a week of weight training for an hour.

So you're getting in daily doubles three days a week? Yeah. And I haven't had a cigarette since October 2016. There it is. Yeah, the Arc Trainer. I have the one with the arms. Yeah. The guy behind him has got the arms, it looks like.

It's a serious, serious workout, man. I sweat. It is a really good workout Yeah It really is And then I do speed back I'll do 12 minutes a day on speed back Which I like I just like that you could do

That's how you hurt your arm? Yeah Yeah, we've been talking about tendon issues Folks who's never had tendon issues And I never had them until this elbow I mean, I've had it on elbows before But I did it smart And I didn't keep working out

This time I tried to meathead my way through it Yeah Again Elbow, I mean I've had it on elbows before but I did it smart and I didn't keep working out this time I tried to meathead my way through it. Yeah again It it flared up pretty bad to the point where four months later. It wasn't healed It's a slow healing thing right super slow. Yeah, they don't have any blood supply So I got a bunch of shit. Is that why the platelet-rich plasma works so well? Yes, it just gets it right there It's very effective. Yeah. The other thing that's, I think, the most effective is what we were talking about is those TheraBands.

And actually, it's the cheapest. Oh, the thick. The blue thing that I use. It looks like a big avatar dildo. And you hold it out in front of you. I wish I had it with me. And then you twist it like that. Yeah. And then I hold it like this.

And then I let it untwist. Yeah. I just got one. And then you like, and when you do the untwisting it strengthens for me that was my issue you're on the inside i'm on the outside so i go the other way yeah there would be there's another one they'll show they have diagrams for different things you could do but it's a big difference but it's just those kind of muscles don't get strengthened a lot my muscles in my hands are picking things up and i'm doing chin-ups and rows and stuff like that, but I was never doing anything twisty, so I started to add that.

The amount of driving I do isn't good for me. Right, for your back? No, for my hands or for anything. It fucks up my whole body. Do you put a lumbar pad or anything? No, but most cars I drive have real sporty seats, and a lot of them I'm lucky enough to have adjustable lumbar. Mercedes right now is killing the seat game.

Mercedes seat game is so fire. What are they doing? Just they work with this spinal center in Germany. Oh, jeez. Of course they do. And to develop all their high-end seats. Wow. And the seats on the S-Class, the amg s class is are so ridiculous um it's like

he they have it okay so they have a simulated hot stone massage function that works it's boss as hell it's like a nine zone massage massage seat in the S-Class coupe. So while you're driving, it gives you a hot stone massage? Yeah. What is the difference between a hot stone massage and a regular massage? The air pockets that get inflated. Behind the seat, the leather, there's these pockets of air, like old Reebok pumps, right? Where I will pump them up and inflate them and deflate them in sequence, right, to simulate kneading or whatever it is.

Well, the Mercedes S-Class heats those pockets. So they're actually, not with hot air, there's a thermal thing on the surface. It's so gangster. Whoa. It feels like a hot stone massage. It's awesome. Yeah. They took it to the next level.

They have. And in fact, I got the car. It's like a $225,000 car. I got it for a week. I drove it around a road trip, all this. I ended up writing 2,600 words on the seat. The whole review was just the seat. The hot stone massage.

It has the fans behind your neck that blow the hot air because it was a convertible. Oh, you got the convertible? Yeah. God damn. That's the back seat there, Jamie. Go for the front seat. God damn. The front seats are just delightful.

But it is amazing that we are in this time. See, look, there's all the zones. Oh, that's crazy. Six zones. It's amazing that we are in this time where the technology has gotten to this level where cars, they're working so hard to improve upon what is already ridiculous. Oh, my God. Especially in terms of performance.

Yeah, and have you experienced any of the semi-autonomous stuff yet? None. No, I haven't. I'm surprised as intellectually curious a person. I'm not interested in cars that drive themselves. They can go fuck themselves. You're not interested in a brief experience into the world? I am. I am interested in that. You a person. I'm not interested in cars that drive themselves. They can go fuck themselves. You're not interested in a brief experience into the world? I am.

I am interested in that. You should be. I am. But for the most part, I think those cars are going to take away our right to drive. Oh, that's, well, you should join the Human Driving Association. Alex, this is real. We're beginning, starting a lobbying association for the rights of human drivers. You should.

And it will, it sounds like a fucking goof right now, but it'll matter. It doesn't to me. No. It doesn't to me. Yeah. Because what you don't want to ever have is a situation where you summon your autonomous pod and you say, take me to wherever. And it goes, no, Joe.

Yeah. We're not going there today because of some political situation. The government tells you the war on driving is here pick your side oh my god what the fuck and is that an rs america on the left there i think it's a sign i think that is it might be an older car by the it's a carrera whale tail like my 911 yeah what year is your 911 it's an 87 that's a good year we're built we're doing a safari build what does does that mean? Oh. So you're making it like one of those off-road Porsches?

A rally car? A rally car. Yeah, it's called the Keen Project. My friend Lee Keen is a Porsche racing driver, and he built one for himself. And it is the most glorious thing I've ever driven. Oh. And it's everything that you love about a 911 applies to this on loose surface. There it is.

That's your car? That's not my car. My car is going to look like that, although it will be a different color and have a roof rack, and it'll be slightly, slightly different. That thing's crazy. That actually is a Richard Tuttle build from England. He's the guy that made Chris Harris' car. Jamie, look up Keen Safari, K-E-E-N, and you'll see closer to mine. Tuttle's the guy that made Chris Harris' car. If you look up Keen Safari, K-E-E-N, and you'll see closer to mine.

Tuttle's the guy that made that crazy green car. Oh, this is my video of driving Lee's car. And it is... See, look, I was fatter there. So it's just drifty woods oversteer. so it's just drifty woods oversteer and you know that rear engine

kind of snapback thing that everyone's all afraid of in 911s the pendulum thing well you get that when you slide and then it catches and comes back on a loose surface there's no catch so you slide it but you don't have the scary snapback

it just drifts and comes back and drift you know there's lee he's building the thing so it's probably really good to have a rear engine bias it is look at that it is the most controllable delightful and you've got four inches of extra suspension travel so la speed bumps ruts Think about this in Los Angeles, right? So you're going to drive this rally car around LA? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not a race car. It's a street car.

Wow. It's a street car. Yeah. And then, you know. That looks like so much fun, driving that in the dirt. Oh my God. We have so much desert here. No one cares.

You go out to El Mirage, there's trails. There's no speed limits. Nobody gives a shit. I got to be honest. There's two videos that made me get really interested in older Porsches. One of them is the Chris Harris build with the Tuttle, and the other one was you driving that Project Nasty car. Joey Sealy, he's a local as well. Dude, that car.

I was like, oh, that's it. That's it. Just like, get it down to the raw dog. Yeah, he took everything out of that car. Oh, that's it. Yeah. That's it. Just like get it down to the raw dog. Yeah. He took everything out of that car. And Richard Tuttle, who did Chris's car in England, is like the rally master. There's Project Nasty. And there's Joey, who built it.

And he also, I love the little things he did, like make the exhaust come through the rear bumper and those funky wheels on it. And the fact there's no carpeting at all, like everything inside was stripped away. His Instagram is emotionengineering, and that car has been through a few changes since this video was made. It looks a little different now. He changed the wheels, right? Different wheels, different, like there's a bunch of different stuff, but it's amazing.

And that guy, he used to be a part of this business, BBI Autosport. He left to go start his own business, Emotion Engineering, and he is a master of chassis setup. Yeah, I believe it. Yeah. That's a very, very impressive video. It's a very interesting video. And that's not like the highest horsepower vehicle, right? No, it was really light, though.

How many horsepower did it have? If I remember, maybe 375, 380. I mean, it was fast. It was not a slouch at all. But have you seen what Singer is doing now with this air-cooled engine? Yeah, it's crazy. Well, you sent me that whole thing of the price difference between a 911 air-cooled engine that's got 200 horsepower versus one that's got 500 horsepower. And you're like, wow.

Yeah, the exponential curve of Porsche horsepower costs is really scary stuff. The highest end was $250,000? Yeah, so it was like, okay, to buy an engine, just an engine on a stand, you want that engine. This is a Porsche air-cooled. So a Porsche engine for a Porsche that is earlier than 1995. 300 horsepower is going to run you about 40 grand, and that's a ton of money for not a lot of horsepower. 400 horsepower will run you about 100 grand.

I mean, 100,000, that's an engine on a stand, nothing else. You want 500 horsepower out of that motor, it's $250,000. Just for the engine? Just for the engine. Why is that? Because that sounds so crazy in comparison to other cars out there. Because a lot of techniques that you would use to make horsepower in other cars, you cannot apply to a Porsche engine. You're limited on displacement size.

So it's not like you could shove a 9-liter V8 in there. on displacement size so it's not like you could shove like a nine liter v8 in there like a 4.2 is about as big displacement as you can get in that case and that's with like a stroker crank and board out so you're increasing both the length the pistons move and the the size of the hole to get to the 500 horsepower mark you have to run some highly experimental cylinder heads. And Singer to do that, I don't know if Chris has been on the show recently, but he's working with Singer to develop, there's a company called Williams

that is a Formula One team. They are developing the cylinder heads for Singer. So Chris Harris is a part of this as well? He's doing development driving for them. Oh, that's great harris is a part of this he's doing development driving for them oh that's great which is a good decision oh that's amazing decision plus the videos will be epic right so most of uh they're doing a four valve air cooled head which as far as i know has never been done before all your your engine, my engine, all are two-valve engines, and they're doing a four-valve engine.

It's going to cost a million and a half dollars for the car. Well, the engine is 250 grand. This is why. That's so crazy. Yeah, custom cars are a million dollars now. Isn't that nuts? I mean, if you really want something next level, it can easily be a million dollars. Jamie, pull up that new Singer 911.

Yeah, Singer 911 with the Williams engine. It's green. Yeah. But it's got a lot of that. Who's the Japanese gentleman who takes those Porsches and stretches them out? RWB. RWB, yeah. It's got a lot of that to it.

Well, so RWB is really interesting because in Japan, there's the Singer. Don't you think that's a goddamn gorgeous car? But don't you think it's an odd choice to artificially differentiate the way he's got the fender flares? He's making them like you had to glue them on. But the whole car is carbon fiber. So if the whole car is carbon fiber, why the whole car is carbon fiber Why did they fake Like they had extensions Okay so I don't want to disappoint you

But that is a rendering and not a picture of an actual car As far as I know The actual car does not exist And I think If I had to guess They put those over fender lines on the rendering So you would specifically notice That they have widened

it oh that's and if i had to guess the final car may not actually have a seam there you know what man i'm not i'm not mad if it does it looks amazing jamie can you make that bigger again but that looks so real that's crazy that that's not a photograph does that look like a render to you i'm almost certain that's not a real car i'm almost certain that's not a real car. I'm almost certain it's not a real car. The tire looks a little... The tire looks fake? I could be wrong. There could be someone screaming at their whatever right now saying I'm wrong, but I'm

pretty sure... Look how good that is. Reflections in the windows of a building that's outside. Have you played fucking Forza in the last three years? They're good at this, dude. Play a video game. I absolutely believe it. I'm not arguing against it.

I'm just saying it's so good. Yeah. But anyway, if they make a car like that, holy shit, that's a gorgeous car. Oh, yeah. And they will. And it'll look like that, but it may not have those seams. It's pretty similar to what their car looks like. But wider.

It's not much different than the wider. I saw one of those. It might have been the best looking car I've ever seen in my life. It was a silver, like a metallic silver, like and uh it was online understated it was like glorious god damn see if you find that bright silver singer have you seen one in person before up close dude your mind would be blown they have at a minimum minimum, minimum, $45,000 or $50,000 of leather in one of those cars in the interior. The leather work in

the interior of those cars is unbelievable. It's beyond anything from any manufacturer today. Really? Uh, yeah. That's it. That's a sexy motherfucker right there. God damn, that's a good looking car. Yep. That's very, very nice. What is it about certain shapes, right?

There's certain shapes. What Singer does is they distill the best of each generation of car into one car. Yeah. And so you're looking at a highly idealized 911, but you can't exactly picture what came from where and why. Yeah. It's gangster. And those Fuchs, those wheels, for whatever reason, they just work.

Mm-hmm. Like, especially that green car. Mm-hmm. Those wheels. Go back to that green car, Jamie. They made them real big on the green car, but the design works so well. There's the Williams engine. God damn.

Yeah. That looks good. Yeah. But, like, that's perfect. So, scroll down, Jamie. The Williams. Look at this. So, you see?

Look at the air intakes that's where your rear windows would be so there are no rear windows there are only those air intakes that go directly into the engine cool that furnace off that's no not cooling that's the actual air intake to get into the combustion chamber okay yeah yeah yeah the cooling it's air cooled so you see that silver kind of nipple on the right side there? That's the center of the fan. It gets cooled in from the back there. Now, like, this is basically the same size as a regular inline six? Flat six. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Roughly, the engine itself is roughly the same size, yeah. So what they've done is just engineer

it to the max. Oh, yeah. Well, they have what are, in theory, are the most advanced cylinder heads ever put onto an air-cooled 911. That looks incredible. And they're going to stick that in a car that was originally, what, 93, something like that? Yeah, something like that. Yeah, 91 to 94. God.

Isn't it funny, though, that there's something unbelievably appealing about those air-cooled cars that is willing to have these rich people pay a million dollars, or at least the current singers, a half million dollars for this car just because you feel it more. When you drive it, it's just got a feel to it. There's a certain kind of mechanical brilliance to it that's really, really, you can't, it's incomparable really. It's very unique. Yeah.

Well, there's something about those old cars, particularly the ones that don't have power steering. Uh-huh. You just, you get a thrill out of them. There's a weird thrill, even when you're not even driving fast. Well, especially with a Porsche, when you have no power steering combined with front engine car, it sucks. No power steering when the engine's in the back is okay, because the front of the car is pretty light, so you don't need too much muscle.

But the 911 steering is just super, super direct. Yeah, it's super direct, and it's just, I don't know, man. It just feels like a different thing you're doing. I had a buddy that had a Volkswagen bug growing up. It didn't have a lot of power in it but those volkswagen bugs those fucking things like when you drive them around they give you a little smile on your face because you're driving like this little tiny thing that feels completely connected with the road it's not very capable but it's like you're smiling when you drive one of

those it's like you see the ride the ultimate one of those. It's like you're in a little ride. The ultimate Volkswagen is they're taking, in Germany, they take the buses, the micro buses, and they chop them down so they're compressed, and they put full Porsche floor pan drivetrain. And so remember that 996 Turbo you had, the all-wheel drive? So they'll put that whole floor pan on a micro bus, and they'll go to like track days and beat up on race cars it's crazy there look seriously look here's it here's one that is so crazy 530 horsepower porsche 993 bi-turbo powered volkswagen micro bus same look at the rear window

see the intake on the rear window there that's so crazy and that's on a racetrack oh my god and it probably weighs nothing right nothing and i mean look what happens god forbid you crash one of those wow yeah there's crazy people out there i'm taking a vw bugs and put porsche engines in them i know they've been doing that yeah well they the common one is a suit oh the old 356 engines yeah yeah or no no no i think someone was putting an older 911 engine in it or a 912 912 engine yeah yeah the four cylinder yeah 912s are people are paying way too much money for them really stop it yeah they're like like 30 40 thousand dollars really so slow. Yeah, that's a slow-ass car, right? They're so slow.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You need to have, like, I get that it's about feel. And yeah, 912s have feel. But at a certain point, there has to be some pace associated with your sports car. Now, when they made those cars, it was the same shell on the outside as a 911? Yeah, yeah.

They just, like, decontented it, you know, know cheapened everything and then put the old engine if somebody wanted a hot rod a 912 out and like put a crazy 993 engine in it and do all the suspension it would still be a 912 isn't that weird there's people that convert 912s sort of into 911s all the time yeah but people know yeah like oh the people who care know but that's what's so crazy about it is that you're you essentially it's the same good stuff yeah as a 911 what it looks like on the outside but do the numbers match that's the thing but isn't it weird difference with porsche people i mean the difference between forty thousand dollars and four hundred thousand dollars will be the most minute, insignificant bullshit. Oh, this one was delivered with, you know, leather-covered vents

and a leather-covered fuse box and a fucking fuchsia steering wheel, and it had the lightweight glass. So that one's $400,000 and that one's $40,000. I mean, that's really what it is. It's the only muscle cars, you know, same thing. This was one of four delivered in plum crazy and automatic transmission on a Tuesday with a white roof and a cum stain in the backseat from the factory. I love those auctions where you see the greed in people's eyes just going off.

The funny thing is when people like, well, they'll get in a bidding war and overpay for something by 40 grand and still feel like they won. Yeah. They feel like they scored. I don't give a... As long as that motherfucker didn't get it. Yeah. I went to Barrett-Jackson for the first time ever this year.

How was that? I had to see it in person. It's a shit show. Is it? It's an absolute shit show. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's crazy. And, you know, it's in Scottsdale and...

But Barrett-Jackson itself, what they don't show you on TV is that you can buy anything there like you can buy they had jet turbine powered fan boats that you could buy it's like the auction

and then like a mile of swap meaty shit. And you could buy custom made cowboy boots and Tempur-Pedic beds and home furnishings and terrible art and watches and massage chairs. Anything you could think of. Whoa. It was just such a sea of commerce. Damn. And there's a lot of cars that don't make TV that are either amazing or very, very sad in their own ways. What do you have to do to get in there?

Is there a qualification thing? To just walk in? No, to set a car in there. Oh, you just go on their website and apply to sell a car. I think they're happy to take your money and try and sell your car. I don't think there's any restrictions. A guy like Eric Andre from going there with a Pinto. I don't know.

I don't think anything other than someone figuring out the joke before he did it. But I don't think much. I think you could probably do it. But for the most part, it's people that are pretty serious about cars. It was a lot of dealers. It was a lot more dealers that seemed like they were selling to each other in terms of the actual buying and the selling. But yeah, I mean, there's a lot of NASCAR jackets out there.

A lot of NASCAR jackets. And then you see they have some of the higher-end auctions, too, which sort of resemble the Pebble Beachy ones. Do you still have that crazy Corvette? Sold it. Oh. I have a crazy Mustang now. What'd you get?

Oh, the wide body. It's a Fox Body. Yeah, yeah. It's on the cover of Car Craft this month. Ooh. And it's in Speed Hunters as well. It did a great article in it in Speed Hunters. That is a ridiculous car.

It's awesome. I heard Rutledge on your show and you guys were shitting on Fox Bodies. You or him called it like the worst piece of shit ever. Fuck you, Rut. Why'd you decide to soup up that car? Because it was a car I wanted in high school, but couldn't have. It's the high school reliving car. Oh, well, over the top.

Imagine pulling up to high school with that thing. If you could go back in a time machine. Bro, I went to my actual 10-year high school reunion in an orange Lamborghini as a goof, and there was literally not a single soul outside when I parked it up front. Zero people saw my arrival. It couldn't have been more wasted.

Shit. Isn't that funny? Like, that's what you want in a car like that. It's like 80% arrival. Yeah, yeah. 100% arrival. It's just pulling up and getting out. If they see the you want, a car like that. It's like 80% arrival. Yeah. Yeah. 100% arrival. 100%. Just pulling up and getting out.

If they see the Lamborghini, there's my Mustang. If you see the Lamborghini on the way out of the reunion, it's really lame. It just was not the best looking year. No, I have the notchback, and the notchback is better. Mine was a police car. Was it? Yeah, it was a highway patrol car. Wow. See, that's the notchback there. It Mine was a police car. Was it? Yeah, it was a highway patrol car. Wow.

See, that's the notchback there. Yeah. And- It was cheaper to get those. I remember you can get the 5.0 engine with that. Right, in the lat. And the point of that is the police cars were the lightest ones. So no air conditioning, no sunroof, no fog lights, no power windows, no power door locks.

Really? So that was the lightest V8-powered Mustang ever made. Look at my interior. That's legit. I love crazy fabrics so much. That interior is badass. It's cholo fantastic. I actually like it.

I thought I would hate that. No, it's like 70s outdoor patio furniture. Keep that image back up there, Jamie. I like the... We're getting Joe an interior today. I don't know. I could never go like that. Just leave that there.

The gauges, man. Everything you did there. Porsche-style steering wheel. I love it. Prototypo. I love that. I love the shifters that are Hurst. Yeah, Hurst shifter.

And then the center tray in between the Recaro seats is from a 73 Mercedes, a 280. Wow. And then the pattern came from modern fabrics, and it's like an outdoor patio furniture fabric. So it's like UV resistant and spill resistant. What are those wheels? Jamie, click on those wheels on the right-hand side. What are the wheels? The wheels?

It's called their HRE RS 105s, which is a three-piece forged wheel. And I'm running 295 tires at all four corners. So they're 18 by 10 and a half at all four corners. They're awesome wheels. That must handle amazing. Oh, it sticks like a GT3. It turns in so hard. And I'm running, the tires are Sport Cup 2s,

which are like the GT3 tires. And what does this car weigh, you think? 31.10 wet. wet wow so it's pretty good it's it's it's got really good brakes really good handling it's medium fast it's about 350 horsepower so it's quick enough um are you gonna leave the engine the way it is well it has a crate motor in it right which it could use some more could use a little more yeah and so if i keep the car long term i'm gonna take out that engine and put in the gt350 engine yeah if i keep the car long term how many horsepower is the gt3 525 but it revs to 8200 that's what it's really about yeah

no i heard one of those on a in a video it's the greatest like that doesn't sound anything like a mustang it doesn't it sounds like a uh something more italian yeah almost yeah i was gonna say like a ferrari yeah well they do a different firing order and they also i think it's oh someone's gonna harry me if that's wrong but the flat plane crank changes the sound gt 350 exhaust. 2018 GT 350. It's pretty glorious. Yeah. Well, I'm terrified that they're going to come out with that GT 500 and I'm going to fall in love.

It could happen. I'm going to fall in love. It could happen. It has a very... Yeah. Yeah, that sounds amazing. Yeah. I think that sounds amazing. I think you have one of my videos open in the background, Jamie, because I'm hearing double.

God damn it, Jamie. That's okay. You son of a bitch. But look at that. Oh, that sounds so good. Yeah, it's very unlike anything else on the road. Very distinctive. So that's one of the most special engines. How heavy is that car?

3,700 pounds. They're all heavy. Why can't anybody figure that out? Because people want features. People want features. Right. Everybody, though. Some people don't want that.

That's why people like you and I are so fascinated by something like Singer. We don't want that that's why people like you and i are so fascinated by something like singer like we don't want to spend that kind of money you can't have light and cheap and fast you gotta you gotta pick one if you want light and cheap it's your miata you know you can't have a if if they're if they had a 3 000 pound mustang that had the features that people demand from a modern car yeah Yeah, it would be two hundred thousand dollars You'd have a Ferrari, you know Yeah, but even Ferraris aren't that light anymore. That's true. That's true Nothing's like what what is the lightest thing you buy like a Porsche Boxster?

There's the Lotus Lotus Evora Evora 410 is under 3,000 pounds. I think, which is a really, really, really, really nice car. I drove that little one, the little Lotus. The Exige? Yeah, I drove that a few years back. Yeah. The Evora doesn't beat you up like that does. It didn't have any horsepower, though.

The Evora 410 has a lot. The other one. No, not the Evora. The Exige. The Exige, yeah. The one where it doesn't have any floor panels, doesn't have anything. Yeah. I was like, this is kind of interesting because it's like a little go-kart.

That's Lotus's thing, yeah. Yeah. So that's what I drove. That's the Evora Sport 410. I just drove that, and it's really, really good. It's really nice. And that's also a manual transmission. It is, yeah.

Yeah, thanks. It's a supercharged Camry engine, believe it or not. Really? Yeah. How many horsepower? 410 a supercharged camry engine believe it or not really yeah how many horsepower 410 supercharged cameras that's a beautiful car it's really good looking and it's got a look at that thing it's got a titanium exhaust god that's so unique you know in a sea of 911s it does stand out wow you would like that car i think god damn that could that would be a good one for you like you need another one that's a pretty car too but that car. I think that could that would be a good one for you. Hmm like you need another one That's a pretty car too. But that's the other one. That's the lease. Yeah

Yeah, the lease is the one that I drove that gray one that you just clicked on Jamie I drove that that's a beautiful looking car, but it's got no balls. No, but you can stun those like this is crazy How slow this is they made some you might have driven the smaller engine one. They made some that were a little faster Yeah, the the base one was like 180, and then they go up to 260 or 280. But there's something thrilling about it. Oh, it's like driving a flea. Yeah. How much does that thing weigh, you think?

2,500 or something. It's light. It's very light. Yeah, it's nothing. And it's beautiful. They just make beautiful cars. Those Lotuses, they will be $30,000 used cars until the end of time. The release.

Yeah. It's absolutely bottomed out at $30,000 and you can buy them and sell them at $30,000 all day. Isn't it funny how cars were worth almost nothing and then like a 73 RS America. It wasn't an RS America. No, just an RS. An RS. 73 RS is worth like a million dollars now yeah it used to be worth 20 000 just a few years ago like how did that happen i remember

i saw those for sale and someone was saying this is the perfect porsche it's not the most powerful right it's only like 225 horsepower something like that but it's so light and so fun to drive and i was like get the fuck out of here with 225 horsepower. Well, it's like the world has become more automated, right? Everything is faster, more efficient, but less involved and less mechanical. And at the same time, you've got, especially with Porsche, a younger audience, a very wealthy audience, that has really decided to use the older collector

cars as a currency that you can drive and investments. And there's a lot of rich people out there right now. And they're not making any more 1973 911s. That's one of the things that people have a real problem with with Singer is they're taking those cars and chopping them the fuck up. They're taking a 964 and just chopping the shit out of that bitch. Yeah, they're taking a $100,000 car and turning it into a $500,000 car that if you can get on the list and get one and you take it home, it's immediately worth $700,000 on the open

market. I bet, right? Because people don't want to wait a year. Oh my God, the flipper market for a singer. It's like, you name your price. Name your price. If you wanted to get a singer. It's like, you name your price. Name your price. If you wanted to get a singer made, how many years is even his waiting list? Two years, three years.

So two years, three years for a waiting list, then a year to make the car. Yeah. And they're making it by hand with carbon fiber. It's crazy. I've seen the videos of people visiting the factory where they're putting it together. It's not far from here. You should go. I should go, but I'm scared. I don't want to go in there. I'll introduce you putting it together. It's not far from here. You should go. I should go, but I'm scared.

I don't want to go in there. I'll introduce you there. Don't do it. Don't do it. I'll start doing numbers in my head. It's just all this. I mean, and then there's a whole cut. Singer, I think, not to dwell on Singer so much, but they opened the door for a sub-industry

below them that's doing $200,000 builds that are like halfway to Singer. For most people, that's probably like, yeah, that's what I'm looking for. For most people, that's really fucking excessive. Yeah. Most people. I'm doing this Safari thing, but I bought my 87 Carrera and its stock, and I almost didn't want to start modifying it because it was just such a nice thing to drive around. Yeah.

It was just lovely. Well, that's recent enough where they have, like, good brakes. Yeah. And it's a super light car. 80s is good. I think what's great, there's a series of shows now called Radwood. Radwood? Yeah, it's a car show for 80s and 90s cars.

It's fucking great, dude. It's great. Because these are cars you can drive. Right. You know, they have air conditioning. They have reasonably modern whatever. You could just start them up and drive them. And, dude, it's like old 80s Benzes and just this great, great scene of 80s and 90s cars at Radwood.

They've got a bunch of shows around. Come out and say hi. I met a bunch of them. But people like my age, I'm 36, are seeing these cars as collectible now, and it's going to usher in a new market. Dude, there's a lot of good investments to be made in 80s and 90s cars right now. Yeah, yeah. Wow.

Yeah. You know what I have? Here's a Radwood. That's crazy. 80s and 90s cars. Really? Yeah. Wow. Yeah. You know what I have? Here's a Redwood. That's crazy. These are good looking cars. Dude, there's the mint. This is like an 86 Acura Legend that looks mint. A buddy of mine had an Acura Legend just like that.

He loved that thing. My first car was an 87. Was it an 87 Legend? That's a great car. You know one car that I had that I wish I didn't get rid of? What a prelude. It's so clean. I had the that I wish I didn't get rid of? Look at that prelude. It's so clean. I had the last year of the NSX.

Oh, really? The 02? Yeah, with the headlights fixed. The fixed headlights. You shouldn't have gotten rid of it. Shouldn't have gotten rid of it. It's a big dollar car right now. It's a hot item.

I loved it. I loved it, too. That was a light-ass car. I don't know what those things weighed. 28, 29. I'll tell you what. If you like that car that lotus 410 i just showed you you would love that really that is the new version of that car really yep i don't

know if i want the new version though i don't think i like the old version that's the thing no no the new version feels like the old version but with like bluetooth oh with bluetooth yeah and your basics there it is right Fuck, that was a great car. So light. They're very, and they're durable. You can drive them. Yeah. People put miles on them.

It's a Honda. Yeah. I mean, how did they figure it out so much better than the Americans did when it came to reliability? Well, they just built a light car and then put their Accord engine in it, pretty much. Yeah, but I mean, all their cars. Oh. I mean, you go through across the border. We were talking earlier about Land Cruisers. then put their accord engine in it pretty much yeah but i mean all their cars oh i mean it'll

look you go through across the board like we were talking earlier about land cruisers that's like gotta be one of the most reliable cars in the history of the free world like yeah why the fuck are they so good at that and most companies like american companies during that same age like you get a 1990s ford no i know it's terrible luck if that's still running right yeah i know but 1995 land cruisers driving through africa right. Land Cruisers are an interesting example specifically because I went on the press launch for a Land Cruiser, so I know this. Most cars are built to a 10-year service life. The Land Cruiser is built to a 25-year service life. The Land Cruiser's parts are almost a hundred percent unique to land cruiser

they they share very few parts with anything else in toyota's lineup and that's why you look at you go oh it's a full-size suv why is this thing ninety thousand dollars because everything on it is industrial grade shit designed to last twice as long as like any other car yeah it seems like when you drive it went to tanks Tanks, absolute, absolute tanks. And they're over-engineered. But I think in the 80s and 90s, I think the Japanese design and production philosophy was just so far beyond where we were.

Yeah, we were making shit during those years. Garbage, absolute. I mean, I have an 88 Mustang you just saw. I have an 87 Porsche, and I had a 1990 Nissan Skyline GTR. The Porsche and the fucking Skyline are same time. Same time period. They're spaceships compared to the hunk of shit that is my Mustang. Those Skylines are badass, man.

They're awesome. Skylines are super cool. Yeah, yeah. I sold it, but I doubled up in six badass, man. They're awesome. Skylines are super cool. Yeah, yeah. I sold it, but I doubled up in six months, though. They're hot. Well, think about what they did with the GTR. When Nissan came out with the GTR. The newest one, yeah.

The newest one. Dude, I've only driven one of those twice. But one time when I drove one, the most remarkable thing about it was I was taking a turn to hit an off ramp and I was like a little late. I was like, oh, I got to change lanes. And it just went like this, crossed the lanes, zip, like nothing. There was no lean. There was nothing.

It just defied physics. I was like, this thing's crazy. It's calculating how much mass is leaning this way and adjusting to flatten everything out electronically. So actually the new Acura NSX, that's like the super car-y one, it's like 150 grand, does that same thing that the GT-R did in 09, but it does it much more seamlessly. So you think you did it. Really?

Yeah. That awesome driving that just happened in the gtr you're like wow the gtr is doing all this awesome shit right in the nsx you're like i'm a fucking hero because you can't because it's so it's so seamless like the gtr it's a mechanical you know all-wheel drive system with these clutch packs and whatever so you can hear it like clunk clunk clunking around and like moving power and doing all this shit right the nsx is rear wheel drive gas engine and then electric motors in the front wheel so it can do all kinds of funky shit with the front wheels the two wheels can be going completely different speeds from each other it's completely independent of what's happening at the

back it's all this computer algorithms but it's magic front end. It's front end that cannot happen within the constraints of like normal rotational physics. Whoa. Yeah. Dude, you should work for Acura. I should sell cars.

You should. You got my dick hard for an NSX. It's a good buy right now. People don't want them. They're cheap. Why? I don't know. Because they're not like the old one, like you said.

You want the old one. People wanted the stick and simple, and it's complicated. But if people were looking for a double-clutch supercar, that seems to be a really good bargain. It's a great-looking car. It is. I had one for a week, and it was awesome. Awesome. And apparently, the power seems very accessible, right?

Sorry, I'm very thirsty. It's very forgiving and very easy to drive, and it makes you feel like Mario Andretti. I hope they don't not make them anymore. I get paranoid. I think they've got to make them for a bit. They've committed. But I think you should buy one if you think you might like one. I felt a tinge of responsibility when the Viper went out of business that I never bought a Viper because it's so preposterous.

It's such a preposterous car. It is. I thought about getting one of those ACRs with the wings and the vented hoods and shit like that. I'm like, just because it's such a douchebag car. Yeah. But it seems like if you were to list off the check boxes of things that you personally enjoy, it seems like it does actually tick most of those boxes it's in there yeah aside from totally looking like a penis besides that it really ticks the rest of the box yeah it looks like godzilla's dick it looks like this sort of like super space age automatron yeah it's very shredder but it's so american too it's

such a ridiculous thing to build well it's america what's so american about it is that rather than you know porsche developing this insane gearbox you know that can shift in a microsecond and and nissan doing this crazy fucking all-wheel drive system and you know whoever accurate doing their torque vectoring electric motors viper's just like more downforce you know we don't know manual gearbox just yeah just more downforce develop the stickiest we don't know. Manual gearbox. Yeah, just more downforce. Develop the stickiest tire you can find. Here, you can pop these things out and get even more downforce. And that's, like, the whole thing.

Yeah, the whole thing. Just put wings on it, and that'll be fine. But meanwhile, they brought it to every racetrack, and every racetrack they were breaking records. Yeah. It's crazy. Yeah, it's the most American thing ever. Fuck y'all, I just bought a Brigger records. Yeah. It's crazy. Yeah, it's the most American thing ever. Yeah. Fuck y'all, I just bought a bigger gun. Exactly.

It's the biggest.50 caliber machine gun ever. Desert Eagle 5.0. Woo! Yeah. It's America. It's a big old American dick. It's super America. Yeah, but then they stopped making them.

I'm sad. Well, because America isn't necessarily commercially viable sometimes. Come on. In the age of Trump, I think she can bring it back. Bring it back. Vipers for everybody. Vipers for everybody. Every coal miner gets a Viper.

A job in a Viper for every coal miner. It's the most preposterous American car. Would you agree? Ooh. Well, we have some preposterous vehicles here in America. I mean, the fact that you can get a pickup truck version of an Escalade is pretty funny. They do that still? I think they may have stopped.

I think I may have stepped on my own joke. That's okay. Let's see. Preposterous? Yeah, it's up there. It's pretty... Yeah. The Ford GT is pretty preposterous in a very good way.

That's a super car, though. It's extremely super. And is John Cena in trouble for selling his Ford GT? I don't think so. I don't think the contract is enforceable. You don't think so? I'm just going by what I've read. Tell people what the story is.

So to get one of the new Ford GTs, right, it's what's called a homologation race car, okay? So they wanted to go win the 24 Hours of Le Mans in a certain class, the LMGTE class. In order to race in that class, it has to be a street car, right? So you have to build a certain number of street cars. You can't just build a dedicated race car. That would be called the prototype class. Okay. So they had to build, I think the number is 499. It's 400 and something, 450, 499, whatever it is. Ford decides that the demand will outstrip the supply and they're rather than highest biddering or whatever, they make you like apply. So you have to be a social media star or a celebrity or someone you had to like tell them why you should

have a for gt and what you were going to do with it and how you were going to share your for gt with the world and then they would decide that you had earned the right to buy their 450 000 car jesus and it came with a contract that you couldn't sell it for two years. They didn't want people flipping them. Right. Which apparently is exactly what John Cena went and did. It seems like that guy must be so fucking rich. Like why

would he violate the contract for a couple hundred grand or whatever someone gave him? I've never met John Cena. Is he huge? Is he a really very huge person? He's enormous. How huge is he? Like height would you think? He's so Cena. Is he huge? Is he a really very huge person? How huge is he? Like height, would you think? He's so enormous.

Well, he's just enormous, like width. I bet he's probably only like 6'3 or 6'4. If he's 6'4, he can't fit in it. So if he took delivery and can't fit in it, that's probably why he would get rid of it rather than sit on it for two years. Find out how tall Mr. Cena is. But he seems like a guy. He's 6'2 and my head hit the ceiling.

Oh, that's probably exactly what it is. He's probably 6'2 and my head hit the ceiling Oh that's probably exactly what it is He's probably 6'2 at least He seems like a guy who should be even longer And taller than he is Because he's so thick It's almost like they chopped off a foot of his arms In every place He's a giant but his wrists are like fucking tree trunks

6'2 50 It'd be close 6'2 or 6' 6'250 He's shorter than I thought Hilarious. Six foot 250. Yeah. See, so he probably- It'd be close. It'd be close. Six foot two or six foot- Six foot 250 pounds. Oh. Oh. Wow. He's shorter than I thought.

He's shorter than I thought. Well, I don't know why he sold it, but he did. Well, maybe even for him. If it's two inches for you, maybe he felt squashed in there. Look, I drove it for one day. I don't know what kind of sacrifices to buy it, but I think he- Short little fuck like me might be a good car. Be good for you.

So the seat is fixed and the pedals and steering wheel are adjustable. Oh. You can't adjust the seat. How bizarre. Yeah. The pedals come to you? Yeah. I don't think I like that.

That's what you got to do, man. It's what you have to do. Because the shape of the car dictates, the seat back angles a bit. But can't you just make the seat slide, put the seat on some rollers? It isn't like a seat. No, you can't. The car is so low. A seat rail is like inches. Precious inches. Precious inches. Yeah. Got it. seat slide put the seat on it isn't like a seat no you can't the car is so low you dude seat a

seat rail is like inches precious inches precious inches yeah dude the roof is 43 inches from the ground that's like this whoa it's so low it's that low it's 43 inches it's from the roof to from the roof to the ground yeah compared to all the car it won lam Le Mans, by the way, in the year it was supposed to. Wow. You park it next to a 911, a 911 is like six inches taller than one of these things. Whoa. That makes a really big difference in the 24 hours of Le Mans. Oh, sure. You're talking 200 mile an hour straightaway speeds. That's a huge difference.

Yeah. So they've designed the car without seat rails to get everything even further down. It's a dope looking car. I saw one that was black with red stripes. That was the press car. That was the one I was driving around. Leno's got the same color too. God, that's a pretty car.

That's gangster. That's a pretty car. It's carbon fiber wheels, which are lovely. Carbon fiber wheels. So there's two kinds of weight in a car. There's sprung weight and unsprung weight. What's that mean? So sprung weight is weight that is

Most of what you think of as the car the engine the body anything that is sprung on the suspension Unsprung weight is weight on the car that is not sprung on the suspension. So wheels brake rotors tires Suspension components that aren't sitting on the suspension so wheels brake rotors tires suspension components that aren't sitting on the suspension right so it's like a rough calculation but like roughly one pound of unsprung weight will translate the feeling of five pounds of sprung weight so meaning like if you are able to pull 20 pounds of unsprung weight out of your car each wheel is four pounds or is five pounds lighter than a stock wheel okay so you're now about 20 pounds unsprung weight of your car your car will feel like you pulled 100 pounds out

of it wow and it will stop start accelerate turn better commute uh totally. It'll perform better in all areas. So to go from a forged aluminum wheel, which is 23 or 24, 25 pounds a wheel, to a carbon fiber wheel that's like 11 pounds a wheel, you're pulling so much unsprung weight out of the car, it'll feel like swinging a baseball bat with a weight on it and then just throwing that weight away. Wow. Yeah. Massive, massive, massive, massive, massive difference. And the wheels are so expensive.

I would imagine. How many companies make carbon fiber wheels? One. One? They're called Carbon Revolution and they're from Australia. And do they only make them for the 14th year? They make them for the Ford GT? They make them for,

you can buy the wheels. They have fitments for a few different cars. Porsche GT3 is one. Wow. And they make them for Ford. Will you do me a favor, Jamie, and pull up the photo of that black Ford GT with the red stripes.

It's on my Instagram. If you have my Instagram handy, the one I drove. Fuck, man. That car. It's an incredibly, the road presence is just obscene and it makes noises that only there that thing god damn it makes noises that only race cars make there's a specific sound like you know the pops and crackles you get from most of these modern cars when they dump the fuel in the exhaust and shit?

It's cool, but it's a synthetic-y sound. It's programmed. Right. This does that not programmed. It's just like fuel into header bang. Wow. It's just so race car. It's so nice.

And this goes for like $500,000? Yeah, $450,000 if you can get one. But you can't get one. But you can't get one. But you can't get one. Unless you know John Cena. I mean, the rumor is he got like over a million for his. Oh, so somebody ordered, well, that makes sense. He flipped it.

Yeah, he flipped it. And so they're suing him. Yeah, I read that it was thrown out. They sued him for breach of contract for selling it. But he claims or claimed that the contract didn't say he couldn't sell it. Oh. So was it a verbal agreement or something? Yeah, I don't know.

Maybe it was one of those things they just hoped nobody would call him out on. Maybe it's unenforceable. I mean, how do they sell you something and then enforce that you can't sell the thing you bought? Right. You can't do that. You literally can't do that. I don't think that's enforceable.

I think once the contract is signed and you take possession of this object, that's yours to do whatever you want with. I think, morally, I completely agree. This is America, motherfucker. But Ford, fucking hats off. You made a dope-ass car. That thing's amazing. It's extremely, extremely crazy.

God. It really, it's unlike anything else on the road because even the very, very high-end supercars, you know, your Lamborghini Aventadors that are 400 grand and your V12 Ferraris and all that stuff, are fundamentally, they're road cars. And even when they go racing with them, they sort of take the road car and modify it for racing. This is so clearly a race car that they had to build some street cars.

Wow. It's fucking rocking. It looks amazing. It's got an air brake on it. What's that mean? Go back to the rear picture. The whole wing that goes across the back there lifts up.

When you hit the brakes. Well, when you start driving quick, it lifts up and becomes a wing wing. Right. And then when you hit the brakes, it flips up and becomes an actual air brake. That's crazy. And it is extremely effective. I would imagine. What it does is when you brake, the car nose dives.

It completely eliminates the dive. So the car just squats straight down. Wow. It's wild. It's fucking gorgeous. Are they going to keep making them? I don't think so. Why not, Ford? If I had to guess, they lose money on every single one they make.

If I had to guess. What kind of a bullshit war do we run in here? I know. Trump, I thought you were going to fix all this. I thought that was part of your platform. That's what I heard. It's going to make American cars great again. Do we, we, the car economy is, it's such a global economy. Like American, like we make a bunch of, like the Hellcats are built like in Canada.

You know, and like we make BMW X5s in South Carolina. We make Ford Tundras in Texas. Toyota Tundra? Toyota Tundra, sorry. Yeah, Toyotas make a couple different cars here in America. Hondas make a couple cars in America. I think Japanese automakers probably have at least as many auto workers in america as american car companies do this is definitely the same car i was driving the press car thing god what is great is just the

buttresses like when it goes by you can see right through the side of the car you can just see the air there between the tunnel and the pod that's so pretty yeah that might be the best looking car i've ever seen it is so so cool. It is so fast. As far as like American cars, that literally might be the best looking car I've ever seen. I think if it's my money, I would buy the older GT, the 2005 one, because I like the manual transmission.

Sure. And I just think that was just one of the best cars ever made. Do you ever drive one of those? Yeah. What's that like? The best. Really? The best.

The best best. Yeah, because this is a race car. Right. And everything that comes with it. That one, it was a road car. And it was, let's make the best road car we can make. And so it wasn't a particularly successful race car. But as a road car, it was just glorious.

The ride and the power and the style and the sound. And they had to develop that car very quickly. road car it was just glorious the ride and the power and the style and the sound and you know it's they had to develop that car very quickly i think the last time i was on this show we were talking about four gts and and you know so everything's overbuilt so you can run like double stock horsepower and you can run almost 280 miles an hour in the fucking mile and these things on stock aero and well people do crazy shit with them like put twin turbos on them and stuff that's not even that crazy it's expensive but it's it's proven science at this point they're not breaking any new ground yeah wow it's it's actually because they're supercharged from the

factory right so they're meant to handle forced induction so the turbo system you take off the supercharger and the turbo system supplants it is that the right right word? I don't know. It's just, it runs more boost, but it's a very, very strong engine. And so they're not completely different systems. They just, they both force air in, just they do it in different ways. And when you buy one from the factory, how many horsepower did it come with? 550. 550 is a lot back then too. It's a bunch.

Yeah, with no traction control. That was the last car, the Viper. It's the same year. Viper might have one year, but basically the last car without traction control or stability control. So a lot of people would crash them. Oh yeah, I would imagine. My GT3

doesn't have shit on it. Really? Yeah, it has... No traction control on that car? I don't think so. No. It has anti-lock brakes. I don't think it has traction control in that car? I don't think so. No. It has anti-lock brakes. I don't think it has traction control. It really? No, I think the next model did. Because it's the RS.

Huh. I don't know. How fortunate for you if it doesn't. It's a very raw car. I loved your car. Yeah. I had a lot of fun driving your car. They're fun cars, man.

It's great. I think maybe the next thing I buy might be an RS. They're great. I know. They're getting so expensive. I know, but it's safe money. Well, that 2007 year, too, is like, that's the year. The one afterwards, they started having traction control.

Make sure that's true. I'm pretty sure it's true. 2007 GT3 RS, no traction control. I'm pretty sure. There's a period of 2000 and... Control I'm pretty sure there's a period of 2000 and Yeah early 2000s up to a End of 2000s where Porsche was using the engine called the Metzger engine which which traced its way back to Lamar

It was a very very strong engine. I'm all say that would be me correctly. Yes, you say Le Mans Le Mans like the movie with Steve McQueen fucking hate hate that movie. Did you? That movie stinks. Does it? Yeah. Steve McQueen movies stink. Wow, you are a crazy person. Oh my God. How dare you?

Oh my God. I like the image of Steve McQueen. I like what he represents. Like this broody American from the 1960s. You know, like one of the last of the real men. Yeah. I mean, I like Steve McQueen based on the photographs of him I've seen. I don't like his movies.

I thought Le Mans was interesting because it was like a snapshot of time. Like, what's the other one? Oh, Bullet. Bullet, yeah. Bullet's interesting. It's like you're looking at a snapshot in time, you know? Bullet is weird. Why is San Francisco so empty in Bullet?

Well, it's because there was nobody alive back then. People, there was no tech companies. There was no humans. There was very few people. Really? I mean, Chad, traffic was nothing back then, man. Talk to somebody about what traffic was like in 1960 in LA. Wasn't shit.

I think I just brought that up earlier in this show. Well, I moved here in 94, and I remember when I moved here, it was nothing like this. Really? Nothing. It's gotten 100% worse. It's like there's twice as many people here. This is what it feels like. Fuck all of us.

It's so crazy. Like, you get on the highway on a Saturday night, just heading into LA on a Saturday night, and you're stuck in bumper-to-bumper traffic for no reason. No one's dead. There's no accident. It's just too many cars. I'm reading a book right now called Traffic. It's about the science of traffic.

And they did a study in LA and Saturday 2 p.m. traffic is worse than any weekday rush hour in Los Angeles. Because everybody's out. Yeah. Everyone's out doing their shit. Dude, you know, when you go to another city, like if you go to a big city like Seattle, and you're there with them and they complain about their traffic, you go, first of all, shut the fuck up. Second of all, what I'm doing must be wrong then because I'm

dealing with way too many people. You guys have got it right. This is the right amount. You've got a lot of people, but you don't have too many people. Like in a medium-sized city that's not LA. Yeah. And then traffic makes sense. It goes in, it goes out. Like here, it's just like hence the scooter.

You want to get out before it gets all Blade Runner-y. When's that going to happen? Well, you know, it's like those dudes like Magnus Walker who lives in downtown LA with his dreadlocks and his garage and his warehouse district. Those guys like that shit, right? He likes that shit. He likes being an urbanite. I'm super fucked.

I'm in Venice. When that tsunami comesite i'm super fucked i'm in venice when that tsunami comes i'm super fucked oh yeah you're right on the edge yeah it's not good for me not looking good all the cars are done there's a there's an app what's the app that wants to give us access the early warning app says you have 60 seconds before you're fucking dead basically is that what they had in hawaii well yeah there's. There's an app now that's working in California. It's the you're about to die? It's an earthquake's about to hit. Fuck.

They apparently have, depending upon the magnitude of the earthquake, which is really scary, because the higher magnitude possibility, the more time you have. Oh, really? Yeah, they can give you up to a minute to know your fucksville. Dude, I'm just thinking. How far give you up to a minute. Hmm to know your fucksville, dude I'm just thinking what can I I'm thinking about what I get in a minute nowhere nowhere worth getting Mmm, I can get to like my closet. Do you have stored food or anything? I'm embarrassed that I don't I have a list of shit I need for probably should probably get for an earthquake that only you must have a

Whole room of shit in this fucking palace here Not in here, but here I have meat in here, but I have I do have commercial freezers of course you do for elk right yeah, but I have Emergency rations okay have freeze-dried food. Mm-hmm, you know that could last me a few months How would you like how would you physically get out of the city if you had to? You would really be fucked. Would you just start walking? Would you bicycle? The real fuck would be cars.

There'd be too many cars. Right. There's way too many cars. You ever see what happened when the hurricanes were hitting Texas and people tried to escape? Or Florida? Like, Florida, the last one. You can't go anywhere. And they just get stuck on the highways.

You get stuck and you run out of gas on the highways. And everybody's scared and desperate. It's not good. And hurricanes you see coming. This earthquake, you get 30 seconds. Yeah. You know. I think my scooter is what's going to save me.

It's going to be that. Where are you going to go? Are you going to go somewhere and they're going to eat you? Are you going to get away? Are you going to be with a bunch of survivors. They're gonna hunt you down. Put me on a spit. They're gonna keep you alive so they can eat you longer

because there's no refrigeration. Just gonna tie you up and cut off parts of you. Eat it in front of you. I'm gonna come here and bust into this fucking place. Yeah, man, that's the move. Come here, we'll help you. I'm so about this space, dude. Who has a float tank?

That is so awesome. Everybody should help you. I'm so about this space, dude. Who has a float tank? That is so awesome. Everybody should have one. I agree. I just, my real concern is just the mass of humans. Just the sheer number is so insane. And I don't think it's sustainable. Like this number of people that are, there's never been a time ever in human history where we've had masses of people crammed into areas like we have today in modern america in our urban areas you

mean modern america modern mexico city is like that jammed up there's quite a few places that are like the population number is higher now than it's ever been recorded human history and so the population of these cities is higher than it's ever been. We've never had 20 million people in a city before in America like we do in L.A. What's that, Jamie? States with a smaller population than Los Angeles County. Is that all of them? Almost all of them.

It's like 30-something states. Almost all of them. Is L.A. County 20 million people yet? It's like 16-something, right? Yeah, it's rough. I think this is like on the 10 to 11 million. almost all of them is la county 20 million people yet it's like 16 something right i think but this is like on the 10 to 11 million so looking at this this map and it's one tiny little area of california and it has more people in it if it was a state than almost every fucking state except

florida that and texas and new york pennsylvania ohio and in the illinois illinois god damn i mean And Texas and New York, Pennsylvania, Ohio, and Illinois? God damn. I mean, that is just fucking bananas. LA is so crazy. I don't... Is it? Is it worth it? Where would you live if you didn't live... No.

If I didn't live here? No, it's not worth it. So where would you live if you didn't live here? I'd probably like... I like Colorado a lot. Colorado's a good state. Mountains are good. I like Northern California, but not San Francisco.

Like Mount Shasta. Yeah, Humboldt. Hang out with farmers. Get fucked up. Deal with that weird dude who keeps knocking on your door. Yeah. You? Woods somewhere?

Colorado, I think. I like Utah, too. I like Utah. Utah's very underrated. Those people are very nice. They are. Everybody thinks Utah, they go, oh, fucking Mormons. I can't do it.

Mormons are friendly. Some of the nicest folks ever. I spent like four months in St. George. Where's that? It's the very corner, southwest corner of Utah, right at the Arizona-Nevada corner. And it's like the town nearest to like Zion National

Park. I was doing like landscape photography for a while. That National Park is gorgeous. Zion's awesome. It's so pretty. And actually, to bring it back to cars, we had a show on NBC Sports called Drive and did national parks. The roads through our national parks here in America are glorious. Glorious.

Yosemite, Zion, Death Valley, Bryce Canyon All have amazing roads going through them Yeah And just the view that you get We're very lucky here We got a lot of cool shit And in California we got the best roads in America possibly We got some pretty good ones You know just that place where everybody goes

Just to drive to fuck around That Angels Crest Highway God that's pretty That's where i was this morning before i came here yeah what were you driving up there um my focus rs was having fun we adjusted the suspension and so i needed to shake it down those are fast little cars very fast i worked with mountoon on mine um so it's making 377 wheel horsepower and 455 wheel torque from a four cylinder and we have an adapt KW DDC adaptive

suspension adaptive coilovers that's hilarious awesome the car's very very fast right now and that's a really light car too right that's not so light it's small but it's all wheel drive which adds to the weight and so it's

it's not super heavy but it's not a it's not a featherweight porsche something like that a little less maybe 33 34 but it's uh it's got a lot of stick and porsche porsche fuck me uh ford uh the rs has this trick all-wheel drive system you can actually power oversteer so it's not like when the front wheels slip, you get power to the back. Like it has what they call a drift mode, which can send up to 100% of the power to the back. Whoa. Yeah.

So they want you to get crazy. So you can actually, yeah, oversteer it and slide it. They engineered craziness into their car? Mm-hmm. Wow. The new M5, you know, is all-wheel drive, and the new AMG E63 is all-wheel drive, and you can electronically disconnect the all-wheel drive through a button in both of them.

Whoa. Yeah. So you can get drifty as well. Get drifty. Mr. Harris. Yeah. Wanting to get drifty, whatever. Yeah.

What do you think of that new Cadillac? What is it, the A6? Oh, what is it? The CT6 with the Super Cruise, that thing? It's the new big Cadillac that has a giant engine in it now. Oh, it's putting a 600 horsepower engine. What is that thing called? CT6?

CT6V? Is that what it is? I'm going to say the wrong thing. I haven't, I saw it. This thing got me excited about Cadillacs. Well, there's a CTS-V. No, not that one. It's the sedan. I think it's called the CT6. Yeah, CT6 is their biggest one.

The brand new one has a crazy V engine. I don't think it's out yet. It's not for sale yet. It has a twin turbo dual overhead cam V8, which is like the most advanced General Motors engine ever. And it's going to be a Cadillac exclusive engine,

which hasn't happened since, remember the North Star? Right. That was the last time Caddy got their own motors. And they're making a big deal about it being Cadillac exclusive. Like, hey, Camaro, go fuck yourself. Yeah, because that's sort of what Cadillac hasn't had, right? Right. Cadillac, they actually, the CTS-V is the lightest, fastest car in its

class. It has the best steering in its class. It has the most horsepower in its class. It's an amazing little car. And they cannot sell them. What? They can't sell CTS-Vs. They can't sell ATS-Vs.

What do you mean? No one's buying those? No one's buying them. Why? Well, I mean, I'm sure there's a few reasons, but the infotainment system, that queue system is really pretty terrible. That sucks fat dick. A lot of people don't make it to the test drive because of that.

Yeah, that thing is really like a liability. It's not good. It's very bad. I've tried to like, I rented an Escalade and I was going through all that shit to try to get to the navigation. I'm like, what the fuck, man? The touch buttons. I've had cars forever.

I'm good at this. I know. I can't figure out how to get the navigation. Where's home? what the fuck, man? I've had cars forever. I'm good at this. I can't figure out how to get the navigation. Where's home? Where's the fucking home button? So that's why. That's one. Aren't they switching over to CarPlay now where it works with Android or Apple phones?

Yeah, you can get those. Yeah, that's better. But that still doesn't get you around the touch buttons and stuff. There it is, the CT8. CT8. CT8. That looks fucking slimy. I mean, if that actually... Artist rendering. Oh, boy.

That's what it's really going to... That's a CT6. If it looks like that, we'll see. Cadillac has a really nice history of coming out with very bold concept cars and then not building them. Oh, come on, Cadillac. Seriously. Make that. They end up building water. Oh, come on, Cadillac. Seriously.

Make that. They end up building watered down shit. Ford does it too. Cadillac was always the car, like my grandfather's day. If you made it, you got a fucking Cadillac. Put that back up for a second, please. That thing, to me, looks like a modern version of what I felt like a Cadillac should be. Well, that's not entirely different from a Bentley Flying Spur.

If you pull up a Bentley Flying Spur, that looks similar. But that, again, is a rendering. That's the best-looking Cadillac I've ever seen. I know it's a rendering. I hope they make that that way because that is the best-looking Cadillac I've ever seen. It's aggressive. I mean, aggressive for American cars, aggressive sells. Chrysler 300 saved Chrysler. And when I say best looking Cadillac, I mean best looking new Cadillac.

That's what I mean. I don't mean like the Batmobile style old school Cadillacs because I really feel it's unfair to compare. Fintails? Those are works of art. Yeah. I mean, like, what year would that be? Like a 57 Eldorado would be a Fintail. Pull up custom 57 Cadillac.

You know, and they're like 75 feet long. Big bodies are coming up. So the slammed on bags with steel wheels. Yeah, so there's your fins. Look at that. Yeah. Jesus Christ. That's a chopped roof.

Oh, my God. That one, they've really gone Batmobile. That looks like a bat. Yeah. God, it's beautiful, though. But, man, I wish. You can't bring fins back, but that would be nice. Yeah.

Pedestrian impact and all. Yeah. That is hot. That's older. That's like a 55 maybe? 57. That's a custom. God damn, that's fire.

But, you know, do you, would you roll big body like that? You go full big body? I mean, you would take it out on Sunday and then you'd go, fuck this car. And then you would drive something that you could actually drive. Because part of the thrill of driving is the interaction with the road, right? And those cars are not interacting very well. No. There's so much weight.

You're moving them around. They're sloppy. Whereas you got into an old 73 Porsche, you could drive that thing. Yes. Even stock from the factory, you could drive that thing, no problem. Yes. Even like stock from the factory, you could drive that thing, no problem. Yeah.

The older American cars, you have no idea where that limit is coming. It's like, I'm there, I'm there, I'm there. The wheel's falling off. I'm in the trees. Ooh, yeah. There was no communication in the steering wheel. Yeah. Old school electric steering is like- It's terrible.

There's just zero communication up there. And I used to be so afraid of old cars, and then I started driving old European cars, and I went, oh. This is how this is supposed to go. It's just America. Well, it's a product of their environment, right? Like, in the 80s, those fucking GM guys with their chomped cigars and their off-the-rack shitty suits, they never left Detroit.

Right. And if you go to Detroit, it's just fucking potholes and it's straight lines and so of course the cars would ride like shit and or would float around and not handle because there isn't a corner for 300 miles you know now you get the ctsv because these guys and they go to the nurburg ring and test they it's a global you know world now yeah it's a totally different animal. These closed-minded morons built cars for their own city and sold them all over the world

with no regard to the fact that they didn't work for shit in Italy or anywhere with corners in it. That's interesting. That's a good point. And it set up America. You go drive a 57 Cadillac in Detroit and you go, well this

makes all the sense in the world. The roads are straight and wide. How's that beeline coffee? This is your coffee. This is really good. Did you go to the place where they grow it? I work with this company Beeline Coffee and at first they

started sponsoring my new watch podcast called Watch and Listen. It's about watches. Oh, you're a watch dork, huh? I'm a watch dork, too, yeah. Illogical extension from cars. Dude, this is a delicious coffee. Cheers.

And so, thank you. Yeah, I brought you some. It's light roast, medium body, single origin, and that's an A. Langenson watch. Thank you. That's a watch. And that's the back of a long chronograph. Oh, that's the back? Yeah, the back. Oh, that's beautiful. Yeah, it's amazing.

Anything that looks like gold, that's gold. So is that glass? Yeah, sapphire crystal. So there's a crystal on the back and the front? Yes. They call that a display back. Oh, so just so you can show people. So you can admire the hardware within. It is crazy when you look at the detail involved in one of those watches.

A lot of parallels with cars. So many. They rose up in parallel. I mean, the obvious connections of timing races and stuff like that and wearing a machine on your wrist. Look at that. That's called self-dealing as I went to advertise my own watch for sale. You can do that? Yeah.

Look at that. What's that one on the far right? That's a Panerai. That watch is called a Ratrapante, which is also known as a split seconds chronograph. So it's actually two chronographs laid on top of each other. So it would be used to measure the time differential between, say, two cars on a racetrack. Whoa. That's the most complicated movement Panerai makes.

I think that watch is about 13 or 14 grand. That's a beautiful watch. Very nice watch. It's pretty. That was a demo. I sent it back. You sent it back? I sent it back.

I sent most of them I sent back. Why do you send them back? As opposed to giving them 10 grand a month for every watch oh is that how it works yeah part of my i have a sponsorship deal crown and caliber.com what is it what is what what is a sponsorship deal like what do they do well i started this watch podcast so they're our title sponsor so they gave me a budget for a year but i can also loan out watches out of their stock if I so desire. If I want to try something. So it's like a chick trying on jewelry.

Totally. It's jewelry for men, right? Yeah, yeah. It basically is. It is, yeah. It's the only jewelry that you can kind of get away with. Pretty much. If you had a fat diamond ring on it, I would look like a total asshole.

No, but it makes sense if you have a watch. Look, that's Jonathan Ward from Icon. That was his case. Jonathan is really into old, weird watches. Right. I follow his Instagram as well. is really into old weird watches right i follow his instagram as well he he's into old weird anything i think he fascinates me that guy is the most interesting person that there is he's very intense he's like you like you you guys both like just do so much stuff i don't know where all the hours are in the day like he runs his business and he makes

videos but i also see like every week on instagram he'll put up like a handbag he made from scratch leather like where did you find the time for that yeah you too i don't know where you find the time to do all this it's an illusion because um the the time i spend here is very easy it's just conversation you know it's it's it's fun it's great you know having a guy like you we get to Because the time I spend here is very easy. It's just conversation. It's fun. It's great. Having a guy like you, we get to talk cars. I agree.

It is great. It's fun. Stand-up comedy, I've done so long. It's like a part of my life. Yeah. It's normal. The working out stuff, it's like if I don't do it, I can't do the other things. I'll go crazy. I won't be balanced.

And I want to stay healthy. So I do that. It just seems that you seem to churn out a large volume of content and you also travel UFC and all that kind of stuff and I don't know. It's a lot of content. You told me the Universe Rewards Hustle

once. It does. I have that engraved on the back of the first Rolex I bought myself. Really? Good for you, man. Which is from you. That's dope. And I sort of lived on that mantra for quite a long time until recently, I actually just totally burned myself out on it a bit. You can burn yourself out. Yeah. You got to be real, real conscious of how your body feels, right? And that's what I like about what you've been saying that you're doing cardio seven days a week. Well, that's what happened. I spent so much time working and focusing on it.

I was like, look, as long as I can stand and lift my arms, I'm going to keep making videos because this shit could all end tomorrow. Right. But my body completely fell apart. And so I had to go, all right, I think it's time to take care of this. Well, stuck with it. There's a car analogy here because this is your meat vehicle. There's a car analogy here because this is your meat vehicle. And the difference between having a 500 horsepower engine and a 125 horsepower diesel is literally how you take care of yourself.

And you can turn your body into a race car. You really can. Unless, you know, obviously you have disabilities or something's wrong with you. Right, right. But for most people, the issue is just will. It's just their will and their mind and discipline and then knowledge right any how to do it correctly and I've lost Large amounts of weight several times in the past I lost I've lost I lost 50 pounds and then I lost a hundred pounds and then I lost this past two years another

50 so like I know how to do it. What are you doing now differently? But the difference with this one is I wanted to do it every time I've done it in the past It is drastically interrupted my day-to-day life It's like either you go to fat camp and do it or you whatever, you know It's it takes away from something this one. It was much more important to go. I have a job. I have a life I have to figure out how to make this work in within that life So it's became a lot more hotel gyms really doing that really making sure to just do that shit oh when you're on the road yeah road is really hard yep it's hard

with diet too it's very hard i don't i didn't change my diet that much i just started exercising a lot my big problem wasn't that i ate badly it's that I would eat big meals spaced very far apart. And so my body would go into like storage mode. But now I try and eat smaller meals and more of them. And it seems to work much more efficiently. Well, everybody's body's different. But for the most part, one of the biggest, most significant things you could do is cut out most sugar and cut out most refined carbohydrates. Bread is my Achilles heel.

Everybody. I love fucking bread. If you just cut that out, weight would fly off you. I know. Especially when you're telling me the volume of exercise you're doing. I know. Cut out the bread, cut out the sugar, you would lose ridiculous amounts of weight. You know, Jordan Peterson was on my podcast.

He was talking about autoimmune issues that he had. And what he did was cut out everything except for meat and vegetables that's it and all his problems went away yeah i know i i've done the atkins style cave manny whatever you want to call it you know all protein and fat cut out the and vegetables and cut all the carbs like i it works i've done it i've lost weight and and i just i i couldn't stick with it because i fucking love bread so much and i just don't want to kill myself you know what i just i i couldn't stick with it because i fucking love bread so much and i just don't want to kill myself you know what i mean i want to the it's like it's like growing a show or something if the curve is going in the right direction and i'm okay pushing forward let me just

push forward right i'll get there i don't you know so well it seems like the curve is definitely going in the right direction the thing about saying I just don't want to kill myself. Well, it seems like the curve is definitely going in the right direction. The thing about saying that you don't want to kill yourself, I get it. I love bread, too, and I love pasta. I'm a big fan of lasagna. I just love Italian food. I really do. I love pizza.

But I just limit it to one day a week. That's probably good. One day a week, I allow myself to eat whatever the fuck I want. And if I decide it's Wednesday night, if Wednesday night I go out to dinner and I say, you know what, man, I want the fucking spaghetti and meatballs. Let's just do this. Then that's the night. That's the night I cheat. And then the other six nights I eat normal.

Yeah. Dude, I respect your stick. It makes it feel better too when you get that cheat day. Yeah. Like then it really counts. If I get spaghetti with meatballs with grated parmesan cheese over it, if I'm fucking digging in on that on whatever Friday night, like, ah!

Just let yourself enjoy the shit out of it. It's glorious. It's not just a regular spaghetti and meatballs because it's dinner. Which is normal. You know, on Wednesday, Friday, whatever, who cares? No, it's the one day! The one day you can eat that fucking pizza. Ah, the cheese. Maybe this is what I take home from this one.

Maybe I take home the cheat day philosophy from this show. Cheat day is good. The other thing is your body, if you get into that habit, your body won't be craving those things anymore. Because a lot of the reason why you crave it is because of your gut bacteria that's being supported by that diet. And then you sort of like go into gut bacteria withdrawals that makes you want more and blah, blah, blah. You get crazy. What you got to do is get your biome in check. Like start eating a lot of probiotics.

Yeah. Like if you can stomach kimchi. I don't know if you're into that. I like the taste of it. I mean, I like Korean food. I don't know how much I can eat. Kimchi is a daily thing for me. Really?

Yep. Acidophilus. Yogurt is good. If you could eat yogurt. The fuck do you have the time to just, I don't, to find this stuff and eat it. Food? Just go to the supermarket. I know. Takes ten minutes to get some food. I know.

It's amazing when you gotta run around the city. This is why I'm surprised how well you do it because running around this city, you could have a whole day that's three activities and it takes all day to do those activities and you barely have time to eat in between the i'm just bad at bringing that stuff with me you know i need to be better at carrying my own whether it's bars or fucking kimchi or

whatever to bring it with me so that i don't get to that oh my god i'm starving and then murder food when you leave um get me your address and i'll have some Onnit stuff sent to you. Oh, cool. Because we have some new Onnit protein bites. They're coconut and cashews, no guilt. I like coconut and cashews. Seven grams of protein for each one of these little squares and they're fucking crack. Hell yeah.

That'll just get you to the next thing. Yeah, they're heroin. I like that. Yeah, I'll have some sent to you. Send that and like 300 or 400 pounds of elk. Oh, I wanted to tell you, I killed something. I went hunting. I like that. Yeah, I'll have some sent to you. Sent that and like three or four hundred pounds of elk. Oh, I wanted to tell you I killed something. I went hunting. I went bird hunting.

What'd you shoot? I shot a quail. I used a gun. I didn't, you know, I can't shoot a quail with a bow. It's hard. But they were delicious. It's delicious food. It was really the dogs. The dogs were so impressive. The dogs were amazing. Well trained. amazing well trained so super well trained

went to this place in south georgia and uh they the they had the most brilliantly trained dogs like i've ever seen that just found everything i think i got like 90 birds weekend it was a lot so you went on a full Dick Cheney? Full, yeah, without the humans. I didn't shoot any humans. That's fun though.

I really enjoyed it. Did you cook the quail? No, they sent me some which I could cook at home but they were doing them there. They were turning the quail breasts

into like nuggets, like a McNugget but a quail breast and then like the drumsticks, banging. Absolutely delicious. And what did they cook when you say like a McNugget, but a quail breast. And then like the drumsticks, banging. Absolutely delicious. And what did they cook the, when you say like a McNugget, so they breaded it? Yeah, they breaded it and fried it.

And it was like a whole quail breast was like a pop it in your mouth nugget. It was really good. It's a delicious meat. Yeah. Yeah, they're crazy, crazy tasty birds. Yeah. But I didn't, I was like super conflicted about the hunting portion of it. Yeah.

And I don't know why it felt, my dad was like, that's like fishing. It's definitely not. It's not like fishing, but I didn't feel as guilty as I thought I would. You know what, man? It's like, and this is a crazy thing to say, but I'm going to say it anyway. It's like an old relationship like you're like oh like you run into an old girlfriend on the street and you haven't seen her since 1989 or something wait to see where this is going okay the fuck it is a long time ago and you run into

each other and you start talking to each other like oh i remember you i remember why i broke up with you something no no not even that just you you it's a relationship with hunting an animal like people feel it very quickly with fishing because fishing carries very little guilt some people like oh is it hurt is it is it gonna get hurt some people get like that with fish most people don't give a fuck about fish yeah little kids they laugh my kids laugh and it's like flopping and dying fish has a fucking hook through its head and my seven-year-old thinks it's awesome oh my god it's so big yay she's so happy that this thing is dying yeah like that's crazy but if that was a rabbit she'd never have that reaction right right there's a natural thing that we have with with we have a hierarchy of life yeah things that are closest to us we feel more connected to we

don't feel connected at all to bugs nobody gives a fuck about bugs vegan slap mosquitoes all day long nobody gives a shit about that life but there is a life that you care about when things get warm and brown and fuzzy they get like too close to Cute things, yeah. They get too close to us. When they get too close to mammal-like, people freak out. Yeah, I went on a South African safari last year, and it was like, I couldn't fathom someone going and hunting a leopard or something like that. That's a weird thing. The big game shit?

That's a very weird thing. It's a very different thing. It's almost like what that is. And I'm not saying it shouldn't be legal. Is it like a sadism? Maybe a little. But what that is, is like, it's an aberration off the original idea. And this is the only way to look at it.

And people will get mad at me that are hunters because I'm a hunter. And like, what are you saying? Look, it's not the thing to do. Unless you're doing it on just to control population, there's no reason to do it. But what happened was, in the past, the only reason people hunted was for meat. Right. You barely could stay alive anyway. And when you went on a hunting party, you didn't go for sport.

You went to go to kill things. When you have so much food that you don't need to worry about food and you've already been shooting all these animals then they start doing these things called slams they call doing super slams or the grand slam there's a doll sheep slam there's a sheep slam a rocky like a bighorn sheep slam there's a white is like a jamboree no no you you try to kill one representative of each of the subspecies oh my god really yeah yeah it's a big thing it's a big thing with these guys like a poker run call them like the the big six or the big eight in africa in africa it's a big five is that what it is the big five yeah the five most dangerous animals to hunt on foot. It's like cheetah, lion, hippo, rhino, and whatever the fuck.

Leopard. Leopard. Yeah. There's a bunch of these kind of slams. They have them for turkeys. They have a wild turkey slam. You get the Gould's turkey. You get the Osceola turkey.

There's a bunch of different turkeys all over the country. One in Florida. There's one in Mexico. It's a different turkey. Point being, people start collecting animals. It gets weird. Well, that's the trophy, right? Yeah.

It gets weird. It's like it gets to this weird place. Like, you don't think they shouldn't do it. Like, okay, are you eating the turkey? You are. Okay. That's cool. Are you eating the deer?

Yep. Okay. Well, then I have no quarrel. But when you start going, leopard yeah lion i said cheetos elephant was the other one yeah yeah man i mean the only reason why you shoot an elephant is if the elephant's going on a rampage through a village you're killing people and you want to protect people's lives and i'm on team people other than that why the fuck else would you shoot an elephant i have no idea like i saw an, the biggest elephant I've ever seen as far away from me as you were sitting right now.

Oh, my God. And I almost had a heart attack. In real life? Yeah, in Africa on the safari. Oh, my God. It was fucking scary. See, but I think those things are amazing. It was amazing.

It was amazing. But you just know, because what you're doing, the reason I was so close is because we were watching them push trees down with their trunks like four or five inch trees just oh my god like it's nothing you know what i mean like you'd crash a car if you hit one of those it would crash the car and like they're just and they're right next to you and if they go on your jeep that's the end of that you know what's complicated someone was trying to explain this to me and i should really be honest about this a guy was trying to explain to me that when we think of africa we think of a country it's not a country it's a continent and it's a way bigger continent than north america we've seen pictures

of united states stuck in the middle of africa africa's fucking huge and he's like unfortunately there's places in africa where they have overpopulations of elephants and they encroach on human civilization and they do have to hire hunters to come in and do it and kill them but they don't hire them the hunters pay and the money goes straight to the village the meat goes to the village and people get very excited about people hunting these elephants and when when i hear that probably seems like a sort of short-term solution to the village right they the village doesn't give a shit about the elephants. They want to eat, probably, right? Do they?

Do they care their conservationists? The elephants eat their crops. It becomes a big issue. And they eat the fuck out of their crops. Good luck putting up a fence to keep a goddamn elephant out. You have no chance. So when someone was explaining this to me, I remember, you know, we were saying this. I was like, why the fuck would you ever want to kill an elephant?

We know there's not that many of them. And he's like, yeah, this is why it's complicated. There's not that many of them in some places. It's like in L.A., there's no grizzly bears, right? But if you go to Montana, the people that live in Montana are going, hey, when are you going to start hunting these fucking things? They just declared them open in Wyoming. They think they just started a hunting season, and it's very controversial. Are they endangered or anything?

No, not anymore at all. No, they have a lot of them. And the people that live up there, especially people that have been mauled or know people that have been mauled, they're like, hey, fucking enough. Enough. I get it. They made a great comeback. Yeah.

But, you know, if you're in Chicago, there's zero bears. Yeah. And this is a tiny place in comparison to Africa. So when I was saying that, like, I thought that elephants were endangered, he's like, yes and no. Yeah. They're endangered in some areas. Good point. The fucked up point, the most dark point about all of it is that trophy hunting is the only thing that keeps those animals healthy.

This is what's fucked up. I was talking to my friend Cam Haynes about this this weekend. When I say trophy hunting, I'm even talking about normal hunting for meat, like impalas or elans, these big game animals that people hunt because they're delicious. Even them. In Zimbabwe, there's a lot of areas in Zimbabwe that are not high fence. They're just open, enormous areas. that would come from people hunting there would sustain these local areas, sustain these lodges,

so it would make it viable to keep these animals alive, and stop poachers. Oh, because it funds the anti-poaching, right. Exactly. It's the only thing that funds the anti-poaching. So here's what happened. The Cecil the lion shit went down. Nobody wanted to go to Africa anymore to go hunting,

and all of these businesses are going under. So there's nothing stopping the poachers. So the poachers move in and kill everything. Kill everything. How about that? That's going the other way. This is how many elephants were killed last year by people. Something like 400, or Google this, legally killed elephants.

The number of illegally killed elephants, 30,000. Come on. 30,000. Most of of illegally killed elephants, 30,000. Come on. 30,000. Wow. Most of them are killed illegally. Most of them are poached. They have this one elephant, you know that last elephant that was dying? Yeah. The male, or excuse me, rhino. Rhino, white rhino or black rhino.

Which rhino was it? A black rhino, I think. They had that poor bastard with armed guards around it 24-7. Yeah7 because they were worried someone was going to kill it and shoot it and chop the fucking horn off. The poaching is way scarier than the hunting and the only thing that protects

the animals from poaching is hunting. It sounds so counterintuitive but you have to look at it honestly. Yeah, they said something similar to us in South Africa about that. That they need the funds because the anti-poachers, you know, they're all over the place.

They're all over the place. And then here's the other problem. When you say poachers, these poachers, you know what you're really saying? Poor people. That's what you're really saying. They're poor, desperate people. They don't know what the fuck to do. And if they can chop off a rhino's horn and make some money, they're going to do it. If they can shoot that animal that's not theirs and use it for meat, they're going to do it.

They're starving to death. I mean, they have no options. There's people in parts of Africa that are living in grass huts. My buddy Justin Wren, he goes and makes wells for these people in the Congo. And the stories he tells you would just make your eyes tear up. These are the human beings. And they're living like this 24 hours a day for their entire life,

and this is the norm. So we're talking about poachers. We're talking about people that are fucking desperate. You can call them poachers. You could dehumanize them with that term, but they're just poor people. Are none of them the movie stereotype poachers? There's got to be a couple of them.

But most of them aren't. Now here's what's even crazier. Most of the anti-poaching agents used to be poachers? There's got to be a couple of them. Some of them. But most of them aren't. Now, here's what's even crazier. Most of the anti-poaching agents used to be poachers. That's not surprising. Because there's nothing else for them to do. Yeah, it's not surprising. And now they're poachers again. But they're hunting people.

But they got out of this position. They can't be anti-poachers anymore. Oh, because they can't fund them. Because there's no money anymore. So now they just went back. So now they become poachers again. Oh, perfect. This happens to a lot of them.

This has gone well. When Cam Haynes was explaining this to me, and when he was explaining this to me, I'm like, well, of course. So they don't even know how many animals are left in these areas where people have abandoned them. That's crazy. These are ranches that were once thriving ways. See, the thing is, most of these animals, a good percentage of them, were on the verge of extinction just 30 years ago. Because people were just overhunting them and poaching them and doing whatever they wanted to them. Then they started putting value on them.

People would go over there to hunt them so people would keep in these huge areas and that populations boomed yeah because they were taking care of them because they were they were a resource and and this is this is conflicting to people it's wild it's very wild i just went to the galapagos on a vacation which is interesting have you been it seems like your kind of spot i want to can't kill anything um it's it's very it's like hawaii if there were never people wow so it's an m it's a completely empty hawaii how big is it about the same size as hawaii the big island or no it's a chain of no it's a chain of islands there's probably 13 or 15 islands. Whoa. Yeah. None as big as the big island, but most like Maui. And there's no buildings on them?

There are two or three towns with 25,000 people, and the rest of it is nothing. National Park, 97%. Wow. But they talk about the giant tortoises. Yeah. And there were potentially a half a million of them on the islands. And it went down to like one, like they found like the last one and they tried to breed it. There's like three varieties of tortoises and the one of them got down to one and they tried

to save it and they couldn't save it. And now it's like, you know, embalmed and fucking taxidermied on the Galapagos islands. But you. But these giant tortoises that lived at 200, but all the passing ships would just grab a few of them and they'd eat them on the ships and they completely decimated the entire population. They're all gone and they're trying to bring them back. I don't even know why we started here. Well, they take forever to grow, right?

And they live forever. They live like 1,000 years, don't they? They live like 200 years, yeah. And then the whole rest of the islands, what's crazy about them is nothing's been hunted there in forever so the wild animals have no problem with people no problem like you're face to face with sea lions and stuff i could be to like birds like what kind of wild bird would let you get within like a foot of it but there's these giant blue blue footed boobies that have no problem with you Just being right here watching them like well

They could have a baby right there and they won't even fuck with you Wow and like huge lizards and but underwater the density of the Underwater sea life was insane hammerhead sharks. I think a baby hammerhead shark is the cutest animal I've ever seen a Baby hammerhead like this why do you know why they developed their eyes out there and the ends like that? Presumably it's like an echolocation or radar sonar type of thing gives you better range I think because they are in darker waters if I had to guess They're really really cool to see in person though There's nothing like a hammerhead shark. Isn't the Galapagos where they had that thing

that they were doing with Judas goats? Do you know that? Yes. That is it, right? The goats, wait, oh. Captain Cook dropped off a bunch of goats on those islands. Yes. And they did it so that when they came back,

they'd have something to hunt. And the goats overran the island. Yeah, and they overate. Yeah. That was a big problem, because theyran the island. Yeah. And they overate. Badly. Yeah. That was a big problem. They're eating everything. They eat everything in sight. And then what did they do with the Judas?

The Judas goat had like a disease or something? No, no, no. What did it do? No. They took one of them and they neutered him. And then they sent him out with a radio collar on. Oh, yeah. So he would find out where all the other goats are.

They would gun them down. From helicopters. And they would keep him alive. They would go, That's the Judas goat. We keep him alive So they've got all these goats down. He will kill all my friends Yeah, I will make some new friends and he would go and make some new friends and then they would locate that new pack Yeah, otherwise, it's very difficult to locate packs of goats if you're really gonna put a dent in the population They wanted to wipe them all out. Yeah, they killed like 75,000 goats. It was a crazy number of goats. Dude.

But they were completely overrunning the whole thing. Well, and they're, yeah, trained sharpshooters were sent in helicopters to scour the island for goats. Once found, the goats would be shot from the air, either in the head or the heart to ensure a quick death, whatever. Using the, stop lying. They shot those things in the dick. No one ever caught them in the arm yet. They shot them in the head or the heart to ensure a quick death, whatever. Stop lying. They shot those things in the dick. No one ever caught them in the arm.

They shot them in the face. They shot them everywhere they could. They're in a helicopter. You're not even a steady... Go back to that, please, so I can keep reading. They're not even in a steady place where they can steadily shoot. They don't have a good rest from fucking helicopter. They had like mini guns. They're just gunning those fuckers down. Why lie like that?

In the heart or in the head to ensure a quick death? Okay, mom. Using high-powered weaponry and military precision. Stop with your military precision. Who wrote this? Many people, including the plan's orchestrators, had misgivings about such a large-scale slaughter of goats. However, the decision was made that the Galapagos ecosystem under the threat and under threat found nowhere else on earth was valuable enough to justify their actions. Yeah. They're an invasive species. History was written by the winners.

Yeah. It's just, it's funny. It's funny that they're, they're essentially preparing for people who are animal rights activists writing this. That's why they're writing, you know, they're, they're shooting them with such precision. It's actually very funny because, you know know the galapagos is ridiculously restrictive you cannot set foot on a beach like there without being like without a naturalist with you the whole time and you can't be more than like 50 feet from the naturalistic ever how'd you guys do it did you hire someone to you go on yeah it's like an organized thing it was like a smallish yacht with like 30 people on it i heard they check your shoes to make sure you don't seeds in you the yeah they rinse off the bottom of your shoes and then they

hand sanitize you when you get back on the boats they said they've had real issues with people that have tramped on on plants and then come to the galapagos now those plants grow there yeah well there's one island that has, I was expecting tropical, right? Because Hawaii is kind of tropical. None of them plants are fucking native. None of them? Like none of them. All the jungle plants were brought there.

Like the Galapagos has one island that has jungle on it and all of the rest of them are like volcanic rock and cactuses and shrubs whoa yeah not what i expected and i was like how come this island has a jungle on it and the rest of them they said all these plants are not native they were all brought here in like the 1700s yeah wow yeah so the plants that were brought there like those plants whoa look at that shit i don't i'm not sure what that is. I never saw that, but it's awesome. That looks like an artist rendering to me. We're looking at this crazy tree that looks like it's right out of the Lord of the Rings.

Dragon blood tree is what it's called. That's an awesome name for that tree. I want that shit in my yard. You got a big building here. Can we get one of those? Dude, I need a dragon blood tree in my life. Look at that thing. That looks like Avatar Island, that island that floats.

Remember that one that floated But uh, it's a great looking tree of ours. It's very cool tree It's a weird economy, but the same naturalists that were like, you know Preserve everything are giddy when they talk about shooting goats from a helicopter Yeah, well they they look at the goats is what they really are. Yeah, they're an invasive species I mean their life forms and then it's not their fault that they're there. But, like, I was trying to explain to my friend, I have a buddy of mine who's thinking about hunting.

He eats meat, and he's like, if I'm not going to kill my own meat, like, why should I have the right to eat meat? He's in this weird moral thing. And he's like, I'm thinking about being vegan, but I know it's not the right move for my health. I'm like, well, you should try it. See if it's the right move for your health. It might work good for your body. But if you want to shoot something,

the thing to shoot would be wild pigs. Because they have three, four litters a year. Each one of them, they could have four, five, even six babies. And they fuck like crazy. And they eat everything. And they might be four or five hundred pounds. They can get big. You kill one of those a year your golden

I mean, but they get fucking the point is they they get destructive and there's nothing that kills them Where do you find these well everywhere everywhere? They're all over the country now. I don't hunt Joe. Where's what's not even a It's not even a hunting issue. It's people live in San Jose or have a problem with wild pigs I'm going through their backyard and fucking them up. Yeah. It's a real issue because no one's paid attention to them. People are getting in their highway, going to school, stopping at Starbucks, doing the normal shit. While this is happening, they're out there in the bush earning it. They're fucking and they're making babies and there's a shit ton of them.

Is that about right? They're all over the place, man. All over from Bakersfield on up, Northern California, filled with wild pigs. Oh, boy. Are they tasty? Look at that. Do they taste like domestic pigs? Currently exist in 56 of the state's 58 counties.

Wow. Yeah. Where's that? What state is that? California? Shit. They're everywhere. 56 of the state's 58 counties have wild pigs.

Okay. So when you say everywhere, you're not fucking around. No, they are a biological plague. They're a completely invasive species, and they're designed to live in places with wolves and lions. I mean, that's what their origins are. But do they taste good? Phenomenal. Really?

Better than domestic pork. Great. Yeah, especially when you cook them right. Like, you take a ham, and you, like, slow it on a smoker. Yeah. Brine it, maybe you take a ham and you like slow it on a smoker. Yeah. Brine it maybe for a few days first. Dude, I'm telling you. Goddamn delicious.

Not surprising. They're a delicious plague. Probably tasty. But they're everywhere and they eat everything. Ground nesting birds, like fucking anything on the ground. They're just all the time fucking up people's lawns, digging in people. Anybody who's got some sort of- So you just want to be ready?

You just- Someone's- They have to do things about them. Just be locked and loaded in your yard and. Well, in Texas, they just shoot them. I mean, they get in helicopters. Oh, the helicopters. Yeah. I was at a thing and a guy was telling me about shooting pigs from a helicopter. There you go.

A porcalypse now is what you want to look up. It's a guy. That's not a porno? No, no, no. It should be. It probably is, too. But it's a guy named Pigman who I'm buddies with this guy. I text him.

Of course you are. We text each other. I know him. You and Pigman. He texts me, and I text him back. It's like, okay. It's crazy. He's a good dude.

But anyway, his whole thing is eradicating these wild pigs and they did him with ted nugent where they're shooting machine guns out of a fucking helicopter and they killed 200 and something of them in one day 30 feral hogs are now in 37 states look at this wow this is 1.5 billion in crop damage yearly i mean i like the i like the anti-pig propaganda film 2.6 million hogs In Texas alone Do you know how crazy that is And again delicious They've got a bunch of brucellosis

And a bunch of different Terrible diseases Fuck Ted Nugent Well how dare you Fuck Ted Nugent How dare you Sucks Well he's definitely got issues Yes Ted Nugent. Well, how dare you? Fuck Ted Nugent. How dare you? He sucks. Well, he's definitely got issues.

Yes. So they're up there with machine guns gunning down these wild pigs out of helicopters. And party is like, they shouldn't be able to do this. But party is like, they have to do this. Because if they don't do this, then these things keep breeding, and there's more of them. If they don't eradicate the numbers, what's to stop these things from just spreading across the entire country

and becoming a real problem? Well, they're already a real problem. So what do you do? Which party you go, that looks kind of fun. It looks very fun. It does. If it wasn't a life form, it looks very fun. I would want to do that with targets.

Can they do that and put targets out there? It wouldn't be as fun. You would want to do that with like targets like do they can they do that and put like targets out there it wouldn't be as fun you'd you'd want to do it with but the thing is like you see a mama and her babies and i mean it's the whole thing is it's kind of fucked up because you there's not a whole lot of other ways to do this here's the thing it's like you got to locate them on these enormous ranches. So what are you going to do? You're going to have people go out there with hunting camps and slowly make their way through the bushes. And they might kill 250 of them in a month.

Or these guys get 250 of them in a day. I'm not arguing with the efficiency of this process. This is extremely efficient. It is an epidemic, though. I mean, what they're saying is accurate. You're seeing all these pigs? Look at the populations that these guys are gunning down. And this is just a

fraction of what exists out there. There's the shot right there. That was like right out of The Godfathers. Yeah, the pig hanging from the helicopter. Hanging from the helicopter. Look at that. Jamie, that freeze frame on Ted Nugent's face was extra creepy. He looked like he was coming. Wait.

On the Sportsman Challenge. This is a real show? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Fuck, I thought this was a goof. That's a real show. That's real. Oh, my God. Yeah.

Porkalypse now. Porkalypse is episodes on Pigman's show. Oh, my God. So, but, you see, as a person who loves animals and also eats meat, I understand conflict. I love animals. I love wild animals. I love pets. I love them, but I also eat meat, and they do, too.

There's a weird relationship going on with people and animals. But that, to me, in modern world, is one of the weirder aspects. Flying around in a helicopter, gunning down feral pigs that destroy crops, cause billions of dollars in damage, and are spreading across the entire country. What else do you do? I don't know.

It just seems so unfair. It's 100% unfair. It seems so unfair. It's 100% unfair. But the question is, is it unfair if you're jogging through the woods and a bear eats you? Is that unfair?

That seems unfair, too. Probably also unfair. Yeah, I mean, you're barely... Levels of unfair. Barely able to just stay in a nice pace and go jogging through the woods and a bear eats you. Is that unfair? That seems unfair, too. Probably also unfair. Yeah, I mean, you're barely... Levels of unfair. Barely able to just sustain a nice pace and go jogging. If you've got to run from a bear... I'm just trying to drop a few LBs. That's it, man.

I didn't want to get eaten. This grizzly can go fucking nowhere. I don't know, man. We have weird relationships with animals. I know you eat meat. I do, yeah. Obviously. I don't feel too guilty about it, either.

I eat meat from the grocery store, and I don't feel too guilty about it either i don't i eat meat from the grocery store i don't feel too guilty about it i'm sorry to say well um yeah that's fucking life i what do you know do you do you feel bad about factory farming i try to buy good quality meat from good quality places and but that's the that's about i don't right i don't buy like farm raised fish and right you know i don't know i try and buy good shit if i can i prefer to eat high quality things yeah but i don't know should we talk about cars more yep do we want to do you want to yeah what else is what else are you seeing in the world of cars we just got we stumbled into a an area of dead animals. This is your show, so that's what's going to happen.

I didn't mean to bring it there. But this is when I get to talk to you, so what are you going to do? So it happens. I'll tell you what I'm interested in, man. I'm interested in that new Corvette ZR1. Going to drive it next week. On Monday and Tuesday at Road Atlanta. That thing looks ridiculous.

750 horsepower. See, that's what I'm talking about. When are they going to stop? I don't know. Are they going to hit 1,000 horsepower on a regular car that people can buy? Yes. Yeah, you know who will probably do it first, actually,

in terms of like a, quote, regular car with 1,000 horsepower would probably be like an electric car because it's so easy to make that power. Look at that thing. It's aggressive. Holy shit electric car because it's so easy to make that power. Look at that thing. It's aggressive. Holy shit. Yeah, it's aggressive.

And you see they had to put this monster power bulge in the hood there in the center. So, you know, this Corvette Z06 was out before and it was very fast, 650 horsepower. But it had this issue where it was heat soaking, wherein you'd lose power because the supercharger would develop so much heat. And it was a small supercharger to fit under the low hood, because the low hood is sort of a thing for Corvette. Right. And the way to make more power while also creating less heat is to use a bigger supercharger and spin it slower

as opposed to a smaller one that spun faster. So they had to put a bigger one, which also, which raises the hood. Does it fuck with, you don't know yet, have you even driven it? I was going to say your vantage point, your viewpoint. I don't know. I'll report back in a couple of weeks. Can you pull that picture up? But it's definitely a big A big old Cal hood

I have driven There's a company Called Callaway You've heard of them Yes They modify That's a beautiful car man Yeah

Go back to that image That you just had The arrow package Is certainly aggressive Look at that thing Yeah It's a beast Yeah

That looks so good So I have driven a Corvette of this generation that has an engine like this, and I drove something called the Callaway Aero Wagon. They actually turned a Corvette into like a shooting brake, like a wagon. Oh, God. It's not that bad. It's pretty cool. But it had 775 horsepower, and it was one of the scariest cars I've ever driven.

Look at that side profile. Look, you can get it as a convertible. Wow, that's amazing. A ZR1 as a convertible? Yeah. Did they do anything to extra stiffen it up? They actually, the reason they do this is they say that the roof itself is not a contributor towards the chassis rigidity. So they can sell the car as a coupe or a convertible

without any loss of rigidity that's what they say that thing drives like honestly i think you're a douche if you buy a zr1 convertible wow how dare you because you can just thinking about you can buy the coupe and take the roof off you can buy the coupe and take the hard roof right but that's not the same it's not the same it is because you don't look like a douche. Convertibles are for douchebags? The top-performing Corvette engine track package with an aero kit in a convertible. Go back to that picture of the red convertible again, Jamie, right under there? For people who suck. How dare you?

Who? You son of a bitch. Dude, what are you doing with the top down and that wing? Looking amazing. And the wing. Looking like a player. Jamie, can are you doing with the top down and that wing? Amazing. And the wing. Looking like a player. Jamie, can you break the tie on this? What's your verdict? Convertible or no convertible? Playing some Tiesto music and letting people know.

Who are you driving with? Who's with you? You. Just by yourself? Just you and me. By yourself, it's not. Just us two, then no convertible. If you're a girl, convertible. Oh, okay. Us two, no convertible? Yeah, we look desperate out there by ourselves. Two guys and a convertible is a little weird. Two guys and a convertible is weird.

That's a good point. A guy and a girl, that's a very good point by Jamie. Two guys and a convertible is still weird. It's still weird for you? It's weird. In 2018? Any convertible. Well, not if they're gay.

But any convertible. Two guys and any convertible is weird. It's like, what are you losers doing Real men don't put the top down No but by yourself yes You know how you can tell someone I'm free I'm just driving around You know how you can tell someone's a real bad driver

It's a really surefire way to tell someone's a terrible driver If they've got a convertible And it's like a And they put the windows down But the front windows go down and the little back windows stay up like a 3 Series BMW where they don't notice those little rear windows

are just still up by themselves. That's how you can tell someone's a bad driver. Never checks their blind spots. Well, even when you drive in a convertible with the windows up, like, stop. Four is even worse. Two guys in the back, too. Oh, that's bad. In Venice, I see that. I see all the convertible Mustangs loaded up.

When I see that, I always look at those four guys. I'm like, one of those guys is dead weight. Guarantee you. One of those guys is a pain in the ass. Three of them hate the other. Yeah, one of those guys always short on how much he puts in for the tab. That's funny. One of those guys.

And you never pay for weed, ever. Do we? When I'm doing better,'ll pay man fuck you that looks so good though pull that picture up again it's they've really shredded the hell out of it that looks amazing yeah red with black that that zr1 convertible that's fucking amazing dude and it's apparently faster around Virginia International Raceway than the Ford GT, which we just looked at. And the Ford GT is like a race car race car. This thing has like a big trunk, and for all intents and purposes, it's a pretty normal car. That's awesome. I like it.

There's not a lot of sacrifice going on with driving one of those. You get in it, you drive it, and it's got a a big trunk and it's reasonably comfortable and easy to live with but it's interesting that this is like this game of like okay let's look at watches there's no real improvement in performance right i mean they're beautiful and but i mean the performance difference between now and 10 years ago is not clear yeah a mechanical watch no i mean it's just a watch there's artistry and there's technological complication i mean it's there's complication for the sake of complication so they'll have watches like to use a car example imagine a car okay and from the outside it looks roughly like a normal car right for four wheels and a

driver's seat right it has one engine and it has four transmissions coming off of that engine all of which come back together to make it the car one wheel drive right imagine that applied to a watch so it'll be like one main movement that goes out into four gear trains and then comes back into just an hour and a minute hand. Well, why would you sync up four gear trains when you could do the same thing with one? And it's like, well, because we can. It would be like building a car with two engines. Like, that's not smart, but you do it. Just be like, I built a a car with two engines like that's not smart but you'd do it just be like I built a fucking car with two engines unless you're talking about like the NSX engine where you have the front engines for the electric

exactly exactly but I think what I'm getting at is that with computers and with cars those are the one thing that you expect an improvement every year nobody's going to accept the old way like you can't just build unless you're a singer and you're making something custom. Well, that's, the singer is what, that example is what the mechanical watch kind of industry

is, you know, they position it as a luxury item from a time gone by sort of thing, you know? Whereas actually, if you want to talk about innovation, this right here is a Grand Seiko, which has a movement called a spring drive movement in it. And it is one of the most advanced and unique mechanical movements available in a watch today. So this is a Seiko? It's a Grand Seiko.

What's the difference? So the difference is, it's like, think about a... Like a Lexus? Think about a Lexus. A Seiko is a Lexus, not a Toyota. This is a Lexus LFA. Oh, okay. This is, a Grand Seiko is built in a different factory from the regular Seikos.

It's built by hand, completely by hand, all hand-finished, hand-polished. It's built of exotic materials. It has a cool movement dude you should sell watches i have a watch podcast it's called watch and listen it's on youtube but you see beautiful yeah i mean i have what is called the display back on this so you can see the the movement in the back and how high the the level of finish is and you've got sapphire and titanium and um so the spring drive movement is without getting crazy crazy nerdy about it is is actually a true innovation in mechanical watchmaking so run the

chronograph it's on the front the top button not here watch the the sweep of the chronograph hand the big second hand you get a perfectly smooth sweep. The smoothest possible sweep that there could be. It is smooth. It is. It is. It is smooth. How much is a watch like this worth? Around $10,000.

Yeah. Amazing. Yeah. God. But it's... Is this watch $300? Well, it's a G-Shock. It's a G-Shock.

No, G-Shocks are the shit, dude. $300. G-Shocks are awesome. As far as like... It's got light on it. Does that have a light? No, but it has... I the shit, dude. 300 bucks. G-Shocks are awesome. It's got a light on it. Does that have a light? No, but it's polished so that it can see in the dark. Mine tells you the date, motherfucker. Dude, G-Shocks are dope.

A G-Shock is a watch guy's tool watch. Like highly functional, durable. A G-Shock is a total watch guy's watch. You can get G-Shocks for like $5,000, you know. What? Yeah. Dude, Jamie, look up a $5,000 G-Shock is a total watch guy's watch. You can get G-Shocks for like $5,000, you know. What? Yeah. Dude, Jamie, look up a $5,000 G-Shock watch. Oh, that right there, hold that up. That's John Ward's.

That's John Ward's own design. That's cool. It's amazing. How cool is that? I think it's based on the Duesenberg. Yeah, Duesenberg gauge cluster. Duesenberg. The watch is called the Duesy, and it's got a complication on it called a jump hour complication so the it's

a basically just a black face almost looks like a bathroom scale and it's got two windows hours on top minutes on the bottom and the minutes sweep by slowly whereas the hours do not sweep by slowly at 59 and 59 seconds the hours click over right fast so it's a jump hour as opposed to a slow moving hour now he designed the look or did he design the internals he designed the look the face the complications and he worked with a swiss watchmaker to design an actual unique movement to use for this watch he He designed the case. That's crazy. It is awesome.

And that watch is $12,000. I believe it. And he's making 50 of them. I believe it. Yeah. He tried to use the face in that Vantablack shit. What is that? Vantablack is the darkest, the blackest black that has ever existed. Oh, I saw they painted a building with that shit.

It looks like a negative space. Dude, get a picture of Vantablack. It doesn't look real. And it's the most black that... That! That's something painted in Vantablack. Whoa. It's so black that it absorbs all light and you can't even see anything.

Can you paint a car in that? You could, except environmentally it's not a good thing. Hey, fuck the penguins. Or whoever's going to die. Apparently to me- I want a nice black G-Wagon. Bro. You fucks. Bro, I need my G-Wagon Vantablack, bro.

Listen, Vantablack is where it goes. You just watch Vantablack. So this watch here has Vantablack in it. Of course it does. And you'll see it's $95,000. And the Vantablack is just the black background When you said $95,000 My balls hurt

They made my balls go like this Bro they got watches that are a million dollars What? You can buy a million dollar watches right now 300 bucks G-Shock Dude there's a watch called a Jacob Astronomia That is like wearing like a sapphire fishbowl on your fucking hand. I swear

it's the craziest shit you've ever seen. It's so ridiculous. It's like Liberace the oil sheik. Look at that. Oh my god, that is insane. Jamie, top right picture there. See this has a gold case. That's a sapphire case. The whole thing is sapphire.

What if you bump into something and it shatters on your hand? That's so stupid. You're wearing a glass watch. It's not glass. It's sapphire. You Cinderella motherfucker. Dude, the whole case is milled from a block of sapphire. The whole case can go fuck itself.

Seriously. It's a million dollars? You deserve that thing to break. That's crazy looking. It's hilarious, right? That's a million dollar watch. Yeah. Earth is that. Yeah, that thing to break. That's crazy looking. It's hilarious, right? That's a million dollar watch. Yeah. Earth is out.

Yeah, that's the Earth. The planets are spinning around. They spin around. Yeah, if you can find a video of it moving, it's nuts. Look at the stars. Yeah. Oh, it's got like a Rolls. If you drove your Rolls Royce with your million dollar watch, you'd be like, what?

You could coordinate this guy with your Starfield ceiling. Dude, that is a small earth. That's crazy. And it literally has the continents and silver and then some blue star thing. What is the water made out of, you think? It's gotta be like I have no

idea. Anodized something, but then there's the diamond sun on the other side. Oh my god, there's a ball a diamond ball that spins around. Some of them have different stuff on them too. That's just one. Baller you have to be to be sporting a million dollar watch. Yeah,

that one's got a central star. Let me check the time on my million dollar motherfucking watch. It's crazy, right? That's crazy. Yeah. There's some rich people doing some really, really weird rich people things right now

that seems preposterous that thing with all the diamonds in the baguette diamonds yeah that's like some steampunk futuristic but like it's it's weird even more so than you know cars it's like because a car it's like okay you got a thousand dollar car ten thousand dollar car hundred thousand dollar car but like yeah when you zoom in really close. That's a computer version. That's not real. Oh, it's CGI. But that is pretty much what you get.

See the astrological signs there? Oh, my God. What is that? The red made out of? That's like amber or something. Oh, probably ruby. The sun's a ruby? It's probably ruby.

Oh, my God. The sun's probably a yellow diamond. Motherfucker. That is incredible. Yeah. See, I don't get it, but I get it. I mean, I would never buy it, but I get it. Well, you must be able to appreciate that someone is making a machine that fits in a

little fishbowl on your wrist. Look at that. Dragon. And look, I mean, look, on top of the crazy artistry of this and the ridiculous price and the jewels and all that stuff, the mathematics of that machine work. That is not just like that for nothing. That does like moon phase, you know, what astrological sign it is.

There is an actual function. Look at that one with the dragon. The dragon in it. You got to be fucking kidding me. That looks like something that come out of a little kid's gumball machine. That's so crazy, right? That's amazing looking. Scroll up the other images, though.

They had those three watches together. Look how good those things look. I mean, that is a crazy thing to have on your arm. It's so crazy, right? That's a million dollars. And if you see someone wearing one in person, it's big. It's like it's

like the size of you know that that yeti lid a coffee mug on your hand it's so big it's so big there's really people are they're actually i mean you'd be shocked at what people are doing with certain with machinery and mechanical watchmaking there's these it's like the fight against friction is the whole thing, right? You've got this tiny little spring, and you need to get as much power out of it as possible. So they engineer these, like, micrograms of friction out of this stuff. So that's the Ur-Work, I think.

What the fuck is that? I think that's an Ur-Work. That's some Star Trek shit. Whoa, that's pretty. Yeah. What does the lid look like when it's closed? It looks like a Star Trek shit. Yeah. Whoa, that's pretty. Yeah. What does the lid look like when it's closed? It looks like a Star Trek communicator. Now, how much does something like that go for?

Let me guess. It's probably 50 or 60. Oh, sorry. I was going to guess. I was going to guess higher. I was going to guess 75. I think you can get different versions of it. Don't hold me to the price.

It's expensive. What do you think it costs, Jamie? Take a guess. 75. Yeah, that's what I was saying. 75. The top article should what I was saying. 75. The top article should have it. The Hodinkee article usually has the price.

If you scroll down to the bottom of that article, it should have it. That's it closed right there. So you can read the time when it's closed. So on that watch, it's 827. Oh. Yeah. And what does it look like when it's closed? Go up.

That's closed right there? Yeah, that's closed. Yeah. And then that's look like when it's closed? Go up. That's closed right there? Yeah, that's closed. Yeah. And then that's another version. Does it have different tops? Yeah. The clear top or the metallic one. And then there's a carbon back.

That's a pretty watch. Yeah. It's pretty looking. If you scroll all the way down, it should say the price. No? $68,000. $68,000. There you go.

Fucking expensive. There's some wild stuff. There's a company called HYT that makes watches that have a liquid that moves around, and it tells you the time based on almost like a thermometer. The liquid goes up to this level. There's a watch by a company called Devon, D-E-V-O-N, that's a belt-driven watch where you have a series of conveyor belts on your wrist. What?

Yeah, there's the H-Y-T. So the green liquid goes around the dial. Yeah. It's like a nuclear ooze that flows through the dial. Whoa. So it changes depending upon the time? Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

So that goo, it flows. Go back to the one with the time? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that goo, like it flows. Go back to the one with the green goo on the top left there. So it like fills up around the dial and then it resets. So is that what a minute is when it goes all the way around? Is it a minute? No, it's an hour, I believe. That's amazing. It's awesome, right?

That's amazing. So you look down and that's how you know where it is in the hour? Yeah, and then it had a typical hour hand. And then this one, it flows around the skull. Dude. How much does something like that cost? A hundred grand or something. Axl Rose is actually sponsored by them.

It works, right? It's on brand for him. I think this is about a hundred grand. So when you say sponsored, what do they do? They get Axl to wear it on stage? Yeah, he wears one. Yeah, I follow these dumb watch spotter Instagram accounts. They sell for upwards of $50,000. I think it's more than that.

Look at that. Yeah. $50,000 to $75,000. David Cross, brother. They're expensive, man. It's David Cross selling watches. $285,000 to H3. Particular ultralight high-end model. Which one's that one?

But there's some materials in this stuff. They use crazy forged carbon there. $95,000 used for a skull one. Ooh, let me see that. That's pretty. Yeah. They're real crazy. I mean, you can get lost in this stuff.

I mean, the machinery of it and the the materials Do you think the the liquid is that goes around that fuck? I don't know They may have a different picture with a different liquid. So that's how the minutes go. Yeah, and then there was an hour It's so crazy Press that let's see Here's the lick here's the the liquid going So cool that is fucking dope I Here's the liquid going. It's so cool. That is fucking dope.

I love the fact that people are so creative. They can figure out how to do things like this on something like a watch. Look at the red goo going around the skull. Isn't that awesome? Oh, my God. I'm in love with it. It's so cool, right? It's amazing. I'm in love with this. And then so cool, right? It's amazing.

I'm in love with this. And then look, it goes back, but it goes back quick. It goes back quick and resets. Oh, wow. Yeah. And the eyes fill up when it goes back. Yep. Oh, you got to be kidding me.

Oh my God. It's some really next level. Like there's bellows and pumps and it's like pumping like liquid around. Dude. Right? I had no idea. Yeah. i had no idea yeah i had no idea people were doing this dude people are doing crazy things that is fucking badass like on a more so that's really crazy so i have a watch that is called a perpetual calendar which is like a

traditional complicated watch so it does day of the week date of the month month of the week, date of the month, month of the year, four-digit year, moon phase, power reserve, okay? And the time, obviously. And it has all of those functions. And if you keep the watch running, you know, it's mechanical. You've got to keep it wound up. If you keep it wound and running, it will be accurate for all of those things without needing any adjustment for about 300 years. Whoa.

Like leap years, how many days are in the month that you're in, like all of that shit. Yeah, IWC Big Pilot Perpetual Calendar. See, this is more of what I like. I like a watch that looks like that, like a classic looking regular watch. Yeah, look up the Big Pilot Perpetual Calendar. I like their watches IWC they make beautiful watches that like that right there to me that's like a perfect looking one yeah I like normal look yeah big pilot yeah

yeah is it orange hands down yeah that's it but go down one on the left bottom left or yeah that's the one Wow so it does it, but go down one on the left. Bottom left. Yeah, that's the one. Wow. So it's got a lot going on there. So that's the one that you have? That's the one I have, yeah. That's a beautiful watch. Yeah, and it's big, it's big and chunky and heavy, but you see it's got four-digit year and then the month at the six o'clock mark, day of the week and the second hand at the

nine o'clock, and then the date and the power reserve at the three o'clock and then the date and the power reserve at the 3 o'clock. And if you keep that running, that'll give you June 3rd, 2018, Friday, you know, whatever. Automatically, it knows all the math. Hundreds of years. Wow. Crazy, right? All you have to do is keep it running. Just keep it running.

So you have to just put it in a perpetual watch machine? Yeah, or wear it. Or wear it. Fortunately, I like wearing it, and it has an eight-day power reserve. So if I wear it one day out of every eight days, it's great. Oh, so it has a battery assist? No, no. The spring will keep going for eight days.

Yeah, yeah, eight days. Whoa. Yeah, and then you see in the inner gauge at the three o'clock position, it says days, seven, six, five, four, three six five four three two one right this one's dead it's in this empty gauge but normally it stays up by the s in days when it's full wow yeah and it shows you how much is left this one this watch has a has a fuel gauge as well lets you know this is mechanical yeah see look right down here at the seven o'clock position that watch has a fuel gauge as well very helpful helpful. That's crazy.

My favorite feature in mechanical watches, the fuel gauge. Is that an actual fuel icon? It looks like one, kind of, yeah. It does kind of look like one. Yeah. Wow. Yeah.

That's dope. So, watches. I have a podcast about all this called Watch and Listen. I do it with a watchmaker who takes shit apart. Cameron Weiss, he's the man. Watches are connected to extreme materialism in a lot of people's eyes.

Totally. Yeah, it's one of those things where people are like, oh, God, you're into watches. You must be a douche. Totally. It's a fair argument. Yeah. Because watches also are used as trophies and flashy shit. But they're also cool.

They're also cool. Yeah, it's like, yeah, I get it. That is true. I mean, same thing I feel with cars. I mean, look, if you is every person who buys a, you know, Ferrari LaFerrari, is every one of those people a whole a douche? No. Some are and some are. What percentage?

The ultimate enthusiast. 75. 75? No, I don't know. It might be 50. No, it might be 50. It could be. You know, there's enthusiasts and there's douches in everything.

In everything. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And the thing is, there's a reason why those things are highly coveted. Because they're fucking amazing. Yeah. You know, that watch, I don't want a million dollar watch, but that watch is the shit. I would never wear it if I had it.

Dude, if you're in Beverly Hills, go in the store. The Jacobs store in Beverly Hills. I don't want to get frisked. I want to do the fucking TSA thing on you. Yeah, right. Yeah, I'm sure. They must be really worried about people walking in that store. Yeah, you got to get buzzed in.

Do you really? Yeah. Oh, God. Fuck you. He's selling something. Dude, you could smash and grab like $6 million that place. Isn't that crazy? Somebody just did that recently.

In England, they smashed and grabbed a watch store with machetes. Yeah. I know. Isn't that crazy? Somebody just did that recently in England. They smashed and grabbed a watch store with machetes. Yeah. Because, you know, there's this thing in England going on right now. I don't know if you know it, but London has, for the first time ever, passed the United States, passed New York City, rather. For the most murders. Really?

Yeah, ever. Since 1800. They're all just stabbing each other? Stabbing each other. So the London mayor, mayor of London on Twitter, wrote a tweet that has been getting him tortured online, saying there is no reason to have a knife. Oh, I saw that. If we catch you with a knife, you will be...

We catch you. You. You. Regular guy. You regular guy. Pocket knife. I open packages. I carry a knife.

I want to cut a piece of rope. I have a knife on me. He said, okay, regular guy. You, regular guy. Pocket knife. I open packages. I carry a knife. I want to cut a piece of rope. I have a knife on me. He said, okay, not anymore. No, in London, this guy is saying if you have a knife and you're caught with one, you'll be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. And, of course, United States, we're going crazy over here. We're like, oh, I thought it was a gun problem. I thought it was a fucking gun problem.

You're going to ban knives? What's next? Fucking scissors? What are you going to do? Where's this going to end? Yeah. Yeah. ban knives? What's next? Fucking scissors? What are you going to do? Where's this going to end? I do have to think. I think we have a little bit of a gun problem. We definitely have an issue.

We definitely have something going on. But this smash and grab, these motherfuckers use machetes. That's gangster. That's gangster. Because they knew nobody had a gun. You try to use a machete and dude's behind the counter of shotguns. You've got a real problem. There's a homemade machete. A machete yeah wow how gangster is that how do they know it's homemade because they caught the guy yeah it says quotes homemade they caught him in my house i met it

right here come on inside good for good for you i guess he didn't get away no good attempt yeah but it's again watches like when you think about something small, like jewelry and watches, something that's this little and something you fit in your hand can be worth a million dollars. It's one of the only things in life where something that fits in your hand is worth a million dollars. Yeah. And there's also a lot of the mainstream brands like Rolex and whatever. There's a lot of false prop up of the value. They intentionally don't build as many Submariners as they could because they want to drive the market up, demand up,

and it keeps the used values high. And there's an entire ecosystem based on new and used watch values. Yeah. Well, I think the craziest value thing in anything of like high-end things that people love is diamonds. Yeah. Because they're not even really that rare anymore. Yeah. Didn't I just read you can make them in a microwave now? Isn't that a thing? A microwave? I read an article that they figured out how to make diamonds in a microwave.

What? How do they do that? The same way they fucking make them in a lab. Someone figured out a process. Carbon and heat. You know, when they make them in a lab, it's really interesting. I don't think they can make really big ones in a lab yet i think they can only make like one or two carats i might be wrong i would definitely be down with getting cremated and being turned into a diamond here it goes scientists figured out a way to make diamonds in a microfilm and it could change the diamond industry oh shit it's over bitches april 9th just happened, huh? Oh, yeah. I read this article, and I just noticed now it's Business Insider. I don't trust them.

Look at this. Yeah. Placing a tiny fragment of a diamond, a carbon seed in a microwave, with varying amounts of carbon-heavy gas. The result is a synthetic ethical diamond with the exact same structure and chemical composition as a diamond that came from the ground. It works so well, experts reportedly need machines to tell the lab-grown gems apart from the natural ones

estimated by 2026 the number of lab made diamonds will skyrocket to 20 million carats So then here's the thing anyone who owns a natural diamond that diamonds now in the toilet. Do you think so? Yes, you don't be like this is natural the shit came from what if they can't tell the difference though You go to a machine. Like, this motherfucker's got a machine. Who's got a machine? People would want to know.

They would want to know. I need to know. Is it machine certified that it came out of the ground? I don't know. Is this blood diamond? I only want blood diamonds. I got engaged a few months ago, and I... Congratulations.

Thank you. And I got a great deal from somebody who I nicknamed Blood Diamond. It's not a blood diamond, I assure you. But I just love calling him Blood Diamond. I just love it. And Hannah gets very upset. Can you fucking stop it? I don't want to wear this thing around anymore.

Calling this guy Blood Diamond. Yeah. Well, that's the thing, too. It's like they've got that business on lockdown. Do you want to prove your love and your commitment to a relationship? Well, you need to buy one of these. You can't buy a fucking car.

Nope. You can't buy an engagement car. I tried to do that, actually. I was going to propose with an engagement Jeep Wagoneer. That's a good move. It was until... They get mad at you. They want the diamond. Show their friends. Look, Matt stepped up. He stepped up. Clarity is perfect.

It's amazing. He stepped up. Did Mike step up? Mike didn't stepped up. He stepped up. Clarity is perfect. It's amazing. He stepped up. Did Mike step up? Mike didn't step up. Matt stepped up. Mike didn't step up. Fuck. Mike's like, fuck those fucking diamonds.

They're all thieves. They're all, you know, it's not really worth that much. CZs, bro. Just need a CZ. If a girl found out that you had a fake diamond, like, that was the thing that happened to an aunt of mine they found out she found her dime was fake yeah she was getting divorced and she went to bring a ring in she found out it was fake trump trump gave someone fake diamond cufflinks who was that somebody that's awesome someone in business he gave him a pair of diamond cufflinks and he went

and looked and they were fucking cz's if that's case, if he did that to you, that guy's ready to fuck you. He's about to make something go down. That guy's going to roll. Mueller. Mueller. That guy's steaming right now. Fucking fake diamonds. You don't respect me, Mr. Trump.

Well, I don't respect you. Trump has been giving out fake diamond cufflinks for years. Oh, my God. He's hilarious. He is hilarious. Do they shrink hisinks for years. Oh, my God. He's hilarious. He is hilarious. Do they shrink his hands for those pictures on purpose? No. Because his hands aren't little.

Everybody always calls his hands little. There's something he does with his hands that make them look little. It's like he does a lot of stuff like this. It's like he brings them together. It's a little in proportion to his head, which is gigantic. And getting bigger, apparently. Poor guy. He's going down now. When they raided his

attorney's offices, here's the thing. In order to get all that stuff passed through, Republicans have to agree to that. Actual Republicans and people that should be his supporters had to be a part of the whole process. I read that everyone that signed it was

an appointee of his administration. He's in trouble. Yeah. If they're raiding your lawyer's office, you are so fucked. And if it all goes down that he winds up getting in trouble, not even for Russia, but for paying off a chick that he had sex with. Oh my God. Imagine it's a porn chick that takes this whole thing down.

Listen, man. Oh, Justin Martindale, an apology. He was saying that she's the Monica Lewinsky for this administration. Oh, come on. No way. I was like, he's going to brush this off. It's going to be nothing. Nobody cares because everybody knows, they know he did it.

So it's not. It's not even a question of whether he did it. Yeah. But it's a matter of whether or not it's legal. Yeah, it's a campaign finance violation. Isn't that crazy? Yeah. That that's a campaign finance.

And then admitting to knowing about the payout is like obstruct admitting to obstruction it's like a whole other when he talked about it in that interview when someone uh caught him getting onto his plane and he acknowledged the the lawsuit whoops that's just he fucks up man he doesn't know how to shut the fuck up not only that his whole life has been about not shutting the fuck up, about saying whatever you want. That's his instincts. And all of a sudden you put him in this position. Accountability?

What's that? I want you to be a totally different thing now. I want you to be presidential. Yeah. Meanwhile, he's trying to pick fights with Joe Biden on Twitter. You're not going to change a 70-year-old billionaire. You're not going to change that guy. He's been told yes a thousand times a day for the last 40 years.

What do you think is going to happen with him? Do you think they're going to kick him out? What do you think is going to happen? Yeah, I think it's not going to. I just don't see how he can make it through four years. I don't know. It's only one year. Yeah.

One year and a couple months. It's very bad. It's very bad. While we've been going on, Paul Ryan has announced that he's going to not seek re-election. Oh, thank God. Fuck Paul Ryan. He probably sees the writing on the wall. Yeah. What does that guy do now? Apparently he had some kind

of realistic challenger Democrat that has been really ramping up their campaign, and he does not want to stick around to see how that's going to go. Really? Does he want to lose? He doesn't want to get humiliated. Yeah. Wow.

That's what it is, you think? Or maybe he's just tired of all this shit. Losing. No way. Maybe he needs to get paid for all those fucking bribes. Like, now it's time. I saw today that the former speaker, John Boehner, is now on the board of a major marijuana. Yeah.

He went all pro-legalization. Got to get that paper. How do you feel about this legalization situation? I hate it. I hate it too. I think they should lock people up. Lock them up. They're getting high. Lock them up. But compared to Prop 215, compared to 17 to 18,

what do you think? What don't you like about it? Well, the 30% sales tax, which was inevitable, but this is what I like about that. It's still reasonable. You can get high on a very small amount of money for a long period of time. That's true. I don't think we should be complaining about that.

Two, I think we could show that there's a real benefit to legalization that benefits communities, benefits schools, firemen, police officers, whoever can get that money. And I think that's where the money should be allocated. And I think you could get billions of dollars for the state just doing that. And I think that is a real positive aspect of legalization that might be the one thing that's going to be the straw that breaks the camel's back across the country. When people realize that you can make real money and that real money can be beneficial to things that communities need. Plus, you starve out illegal drug selling.

Illegal drug selling is what the real problem has always been. When you make something illegal, only criminals are going to sell it. Then you have criminal mentality. You have people that have guns and gangs and those are the people that we're scared of. Not businesses. If we were scared of businesses, we'd be trying to close liquor stores. Nobody gives a shit about wineries. Those are

drug stores. A winery is a drug dealer. They are. They just sell delicious drugs. I listen to you and Maynard talking about wine. They just sell delicious drugs. I mean, and I'm for them 100%. I love wine. That's not my point. And Danica Patrick

was selling wine too, yeah. Things should be legal. Things should be legal. And when marijuana is legal, tax the fucking shit out of it and give that money back to the community and everybody benefits.

People like you and I who are responsible, grown adults, who pay our taxes and are good people and we like to get high occasionally. We should be able to buy it with no worry about being locked in a fucking cage and that money

should go to schools. That money should go to fix the streets. That money should go to cops and firemen. That's what it should go to. Do we know where it's being allocated? I have no idea. Here it goes. I'm joining the board of Anchorage Holdings. Anchorage, sorry.

Because my thinking on cannabis has evolved. My man got high. Yeah. I was anti, and then I got some of this good shit right here. I'm convinced de-scheduling the drug is needed so that we can do research, help our veterans, and reverse the opioid epidemic, ravaging our communities. Yes. I agree.

And I would add to that, get high. So we can get high. Put everyone out of jail. I think, is there evidence showing weed reduces opioid use? It is, right? Well, it really depends upon how it's used. It can benefit some people with some kind of pain. I don't think it's realistic to say that some people that are in horrible, horrible pain would get the same reaction from marijuana they get for opiates.

People with like really bad burns, for instance. Right, but if you just become addicted, not for not medical reasons. I'm talking about if you become addicted to, you know, oxys. There's better drugs. Yeah. There's better drugs that get you off it. There's quite a few that can help you. Probably the most powerful and the most efficient is Ibogaine.

Oh, yeah, like Ayahuasca Ibogaine? No, no, no. Ibogaine is not Ayahuasca. Ayahuasca is a hallucinogenic that is from South America. It's dimethyltryptamine. Ibogaine is from the iboga tree. Is that from Breaking Open the Head and it's uh is that from breaking open the head that there's a book called breaking i'm sure you covered that okay i'm sure you did

okay but ibogaine is like a ruth and it's something i haven't experienced so i'm just talking out of what i've read essentially a ruthlessly introspective 24-hour trip that rewires the way your brain views addiction and has a high level of effectiveness interesting in Rehabilitating people like just just killing the desire to do opiates. Huh? They doing that in America, Mexico Go to Mexico can't go to America. It's a Leo in America. Of course. Is it like a sweat lodge? Shaman type thing or is it a hospital type situation? Hospital type situations. My buddy Ed Clay runs a, I think he still does, runs

a clinic down in Mexico and he started it because of his experiences with pills. He got hurt, got on pain pills, had a real hard time with them, went to get on Ibogaine to get off the pain pills. It worked like a charm and he was like, holy shit, I need to let people know about this. You can get your life back. And it's not

something you get addicted to. It's apparently something that you have a really hard time doing it again. Yeah. Yeah, it's like, it's rough. Yeah, it's like, you go, okay, that was enough. Yeah, like DMT. Exactly. It's one of those things where-

One was enough. You did it once? Yeah, in college, and that was sufficient. You can get a lot out of one. Yeah. I had a plaid, plaid fucking world. Yeah. Flying around. It was full out of body. Nuts. Oh a plaid plaid fucking world yeah flying around it was it was

full out of body nuts oh yeah it's pretty nuts yeah um i think the difference in ibogaine versus dmt dmt is ego dissolving and very hallucinogenic and you feel you see these amazing visualizations ibogaine seems to not have that but but instead be deeply, to the cellular level, introspective. And there's some sort of a physical action that happens in the way your brain looks at addiction changes pretty radically. Do you need to be coached through it, or it just happens? I think all those things should be done in places where people are going to feel safe and where people have done it before

and where people have experience with people that have done it before. And having a real center that has, you know, real professionals

and medical health staff, that's what you want. And the only thing that's keeping that from happening in America and keeping millions and millions of people from getting off pills is drug companies.

Drug companies lobbying to keep all these very helpful things illegal. And we're slowly but surely going to work them out. And the way we're going to work them out is through money. That's why I like the fact that marijuana has a 30% tax. Make it 50. I don't give a fuck. What's a joint? How much is a joint?

A joint can get you high all day. Think about what a drink is. A drink. You go to a bar, you's a joint? How much is a joint? A joint can get you high all day. Think about what a drink is. You go to a bar, you get a drink. How much does a drink cost? $8. $8 worth of weed will fuck you up for many days. I don't know about many days. Two days. Maybe one day.

Maybe half a day. If you're buying a pre-rolled joint, like $10, $12. That was $25. That's like a10, $12. That was $25. This is $25. That's like a fat cigar godfather. That will put you on Pluto. You'll be over there with David Bowie. I know, but it was $25 last month, and now it's $33.

A shot of Macallan, though, is well over $25 probably at any bar. Yes, it is. He's right. All right, fine. My taxes on my weed are good. Fine. Thank you. Ten years I've been buying legal weed and all of a sudden I want to buy illegal weed because of the taxes and you just

talked me, guilted me even back into legal weed. I'm happy to pay it. And I think that it's, you know, I understand. Yeah, man, maybe it's okay for you. I get it. I get it. But what I'm saying is the money, no, you're not, but some people would. But I'm saying the the money. No, you're not. But some people would. But I'm saying the money, if it goes to a good cause, if we really can change the way people perceive drugs.

Yeah. Because there's not a war on drugs. That is a lie. There's drugs everywhere. They're prescribed. You can get them at a drug store. You can get them at a liquor store. You can get drugs.

There's a lot of drugs. It's just certain drugs. Right. The ones that they can't, you know, corporatize as easily. So the way to get it in is not through the corporation's influence but through the influence of the consumer. The consumer paying exorbitant amount of taxes on these things

willingly is going to change the opinion. You know, I like weed being legal. I'll pay the fucking tax. That's right. I will. There we go. I was just curious. I mean, look, selfishly, totally selfishly, my own benefit, I, as a guy who jumped through the one hoop and got a $40 medical card, was happy to have it be called medicine and get it and have it legally and not pay taxes on it. Right.

Now, it seems like it's the same, except I'm paying the tax on it. It is the same, but it's progress because the money's going to the community. I hope. If it is, that's great. Let's find out where it goes. Let's take a guess. I hope it goes towards law enforcement. I hope it's divvied up between law enforcement

and education. How about that? I hope it goes to education, but something tells me it's not. I just feel like it's going to be so much money. Like, Colorado had to give tax money back to its state residents. Oh, do they really? They get a refund? They gave it back because there's so much money being made by weed. That's like Alaska. It's like the oil pipeline.

Exactly. You have negative state taxes. That's boss. I don't know if they have negative state taxes, but I know they gave people refunds. They gave people money back because they made so much money on taxes. That's awesome. It's fucking amazing. That's awesome.

If that happens in California, keep my fucking 30% sales tax. Real estate went up 14% since marijuana was legalized. Instead of going down, a lot of people thought, well, the real estate's going to crash. People are going to move out. There's potheads going to be in the streets. Nope. The opposite. A friend of mine wants to open a cannabis club, and there's a small area in the green

zone where you can do that. And I'm like, great, here's your map of the green zone. I go, okay, what's for sale in the green zone? Nothing. Not a single building. So this is like a place where you can get high publicly? Yeah. Like a cigar bar?

Yes. There's a lot of rules a lot and there's a very restrictive about where you can put it and you absolutely under no circumstances can have a drop of alcohol anywhere on the premises ah interesting so if somebody comes in with a beer you're fucked you can't take yeah you gotta kick them out yeah wow yeah um but it there in west hollywood you there will be places where you can go and smoke on premises. That's going to be weird, huh? Yeah.

Go get high with a bunch of strangers. Yeah. It makes sense in Amsterdam because it's a walking city and you can use your coffee shop tour to walk around the city and go from coffee shop to coffee shop and sightseeing. It's really nice. Sober up. But in LA, what are you driving from coffee shop to coffee shop and sightseeing it's really nice sober up but in la what are you driving from coffee shop to come on nobody walks here what are you gonna do drive there it's gonna be like that scene with ray leotard and good fellows with

the helicopters flying overhead he's freaking out i remade that scene frame for frame and it got kicked off youtube because you have to use the real music and i got trademark infringement but i did it frame for frame with the helicopters. What do you mean you did it? I remade that helicopter chase with me for a car review. I was reviewing Cadillac and I did the fucking thing. I threw the bag in and I went, I'm looking at helicopters and we did the...

What was the problem? You... Did you use the same music? Yeah, the actual music. Yeah, you have to use... Rolling Stones, right? Yeah, you have to use the actual music. Otherwise, it's not Rolling Stones. What is it? It's not Layla.

It's Layla? No. Fucking hell. Whatever it is, you have to use the exact music, and it didn't work. It got kicked off of YouTube. It's too bad. Spent a lot of time making that. Well, they're really good at spotting copyright music now or anything copywritten.

I thought I could get around it if I didn't monetize the video, but it didn't help. You know, when we get fucked, whenever we put up a video of like any nature thing, like a bear killing something or something like that, those are all bought by someone, almost like patent trolls. When people put them up, they just take it down. You have to offer them money to license it off. Like stock footage companies or something. Yeah.

Yeah. All that stuff gets yanked down off of Facebook. Yeah. YouTube and Facebook. Those are two places that stuff gets. Facebook, like I don't put videos on Facebook anymore because it just gets stolen immediately. Yeah. And also their revenue is.

What do you mean by it gets stolen? It's very easy for someone to rip your video off of, you know, Facebook. And then what do they do with it? Well, put it somewhere else on Facebook and whatever, versus if they re-upload it somewhere else on YouTube, the software algorithm will generally catch it. Oh, I see. So the software algorithm in Facebook is not as effective.

Yeah, they don't really give a shit. They don't care. Yeah. They're too busy selling your information. Fucking Russians! Totally. Jamie was watching the video of uh did you watch zuckerberg how did it go i was driving he should know the answer to that that's what i he dad had to go again today yeah and uh i was watching right before you got here in this i don't know where she

was from but she was saying like you're the ceo of this company and you should know some of these answers and she was like listing all the shit he didn't know yeah yeah i was like this is ridiculous and then i afterwards now they've shown which i guess it's part of now public information his notes oh no that he had like as references that he was looking at i've only seen one picture of it just very weird stuff that like seems blatantly obvious that he should know or should say that's different from what we maybe we think we should yeah i think they should be able to tell us I get the impression that this company grew so fast. Yeah, they don't even know what the fuck is going on in there Well, that was the other thing he was talking about their influence on possible. Are we gonna continue? Yeah, we'll continue Don't worry about it

He was talking about his influence on all these different Upcoming elections that were coming up and about how they wanted to make sure that there was no bots that were Influencing these elections and I stopped up and about how they wanted to make sure that there was no bots that were influencing these elections. And I stopped and thought about it. I'm like, oh my God, in that moment of him saying that I realized like what pressure he must be under, what pressure that company's under there. They went from being a thing where people could share pictures like of, Hey, this is us on our summer vacation. Like, Hey, you know, fucking, we're going to go to the pub on Friday. That's what Facebook kind of was, right? People would talk about certain things in the news.

They would have opinions. You put up something, a bunch of people comment on it. That's what it was. Now, with this last election and with him testifying in front of Congress, what I'm seeing is Facebook being one of the most important sources of influence in the world today and it's not really being completely managed. Oh.

Whoa. The Russians. The Russians. Yeah, maybe. There's a little bit like Google needs to be looked into too. What's going on with my mic?

Google also probably. Like they have a data. I think someone was just looking into this. What's going on with my mic? Google also probably, like they have a data. I think someone was just looking into this. People downloaded their Facebook profile and they're like, my file's one gigabyte. How much data is in here? People found out a way to download theirs and find their information. What does Facebook know about me? Apparently there's also one that Google has on everyone and it's much larger.

Cue the music. Dun, dun, dun. I'm not shocked. You know, I wouldn't be nervous if it wasn't for that. That D'Amour memo thing really changed my mind about a lot of things. Not because, you know, it's a subject that's near and dear to my heart. because it's a subject that's near and dear to my heart, but because the way they were handling it was not,

they weren't being honest. They weren't being honest about the science. They weren't being honest about the reaction. Even the way they were describing it, we're talking about the James Damore Google memo. Oh, I don't know. Was that the sexism thing? What was that? Yeah, well, it was talking about women in tech.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. would prefer to not like why some women are not influenced by it's the way google handled it was very maybe very nervous because they weren't being honest about the information they weren't being honest about the results they weren't being honest about what was in his they were saying he was reinforcing harmful gender stereotypes that's not what he was doing what he was talking about is the science of the difference in the psychology between men and women and why women would gravitate towards different careers. Maybe that's why more women aren't in tech. And maybe there's ways to get women in tech. Well, you've taken that angle before, right? With women in fighting and women in sports, right? Yeah. There's some women that

are not going to want to be into those things. There's some women that are going to be. What is the number in comparison to men? It's less likely that a woman's want to be into those things or some women that are going to be. What is the number in comparison to men? It's less likely that a woman's going to be into fighting than a man. I don't think that's extraordinary to say, but a lot of women are into it. It doesn't mean that it's impossible, but it's just we're looking at human beings. Like if you're an outlier and you're a woman who really loves to fight,

there's nothing wrong with that. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that, but I am saying it's much more rare than a woman who wants to become a nurse or do something that's traditionally a female caregiver sort of a position, which is really common. And I didn't read it. Did the letter memo indicate that science says women were less predisposed to becoming programmers or something like that? No, no. becoming programmers or something like that? No, no.

It just was talking about gender choices and choices people make and why they make them based on personality traits and why things are more common. Certain things are more common in males. Certain things are more common in women. And that this would indicate why there were less women that were involved in tech. And it wasn't some systemic sort of discrimination campaign put on by men. You know, but my point was we were talking about them having all the information that you have, like Google and Facebook, how much information they have on you. It would make me less nervous if I didn't know about how they handled that Google memo thing.

Because I'm like, well, you guys aren't being honest about what this is, what the guy wrote. You're painting the guy out to be a villain and you think if you fire him and drown this that this story goes out and then you guys get to look like social justice warriors yeah and then you don't take the heat from the what you know is an objective analysis of this issue well i don't i'm not sure mark zuckerberg has a lot of incentive to be totally honest in this case yeah either he's totally honest and he's malicious or he's totally honest and he's almost comically ignorant about certain things. Yeah, I think he's almost got to say he doesn't know. But the problem is if they can prove he knows.

I mean, he should know, though, is I feel like also part of the issue. Well, here's the thing. He should know. Now, him saying he doesn't know, what if they can pull up an email? I mean, what if they have access to all of his emails and it shows that he knows? I was talking to you yesterday about it and we were like, what about the Facebook recording thing? Is anybody

going to bring that up? And it was brought up. And he said that they don't record audio. Facebook doesn't. Right. You were talking about it with Google, weren't you? Were you talking about it with Google? That if you were talking in a room about a certain subject? You've had that happen, right? That's the Apple HomePod.

You've been talking about something in a room and then had pop-up ads come up, right? No, I haven't. You never have? No, no, no. I believe it, though. Have you had it? It happened to me before. I don't know how.

I couldn't tell you where the the signals went but i've definitely had strain it could be a coincidence but i've had strange ads pop up that are i read that that i don't know if it's accurate though what i was reading that there have people have tried to prove and it could be people on facebook side just to give them propaganda that that's almost nearly impossible to do right now just because of the technology would take to record your audio have it scanned by something and then deliver and add to you based off of that in amount of time yeah it's entirely possible i could have looked at something similar at a recent time and it just was just far enough

away for me to not make an exact connection i don't think what it represents though is that you recognize that that is potentially in the future like Oh, for sure. Especially with things like Alexa and things like HomePod and the Google Home. I mean, devices that are designed to listen to your voice. Yeah. That's the whole point of them. Yeah. You know? Is all this good?

I don't know, dude. I get a lot of shit done. I'm real productive. You know? I have things that would be very difficult to find that can be delivered. Bro, I had, I have a 2001 Mercedes SL500. It's my traffic car. It's perfect for traffic.

A nice big Clarion system. You have a traffic car. It's great. I love my traffic car. And, you know, it's got the old school removable hard top. So I needed to get the stand to put the hard top on when I took it off, right? Amazon, 12 hours. I had a stand for a 2001 delivered to my house.

Wow. That level of convenience. Yeah. I'll give up a little privacy. A little bit. A little bit. I'm fine. I'll give it up.

You can have it. That's what's going to get us. That's what's going to get us and turn us into machines. Just give up a little bit here. A little bit. A little bit? I'm fine. I'll give it up. You can have it. That's what's going to get us. That's what's going to get us and turn us into machines. Just give up a little bit here, a little bit there. A little bit there. I don't want to give up all of it. I'm definitely opposed to vehicle tracking. You know, like

about having a car that knows where you've been and tells somebody about it. Which a certain company does do that. What company is this? Well, Tesla's know where you've been and tell somebody about it um which a certain company does do that what what company is this well tesla's know where you've been well don't they all by virtue of their gps but teslas are wirelessly connected to tesla so the reason so part of the reason tesla's semi-autonomous system works as well as it does um and part of the reason tes Tesla is doing what they're doing as a company is your cars, all Teslas on the road are collecting mapping data for Tesla in real time. So they can be ethical

with that data or they cannot. And odds are they don't give a shit where you're going other than to help them figure out where to put the next superchargers and whatnot. And in general, you have to assume it to improve your experience. But if you extrapolate this 50 years down the road and some of our privacies get worn away, you could end up with a car where it's very easy to subpoena the records of your Tesla and find out exactly where you went. So a Tesla would be the worst car if you were like a bank robber. Fuck yeah.

First of all, if you're a bank robber fuck yeah now if you need if you're a banker 200 miles analog analog big fuel tank think transporter one jason statham yeah that's what you want big fuel cell black late model car what's that in just invisible black again a vantablack vantablack does anybody have a car no noack car? No No one Someone right now is listening They haven't painted anything like big in it yet No one yet, motherfucker I have Vantacar on the way There's some weird environmental shit with Vantablack

Because John Ward was telling me Oh, there is one No, that is velvet, my friend Velvet? That's fucking velvet Ew Yup That's real?

Yup Wait a minute That's not That says Vantablack But that's not Vantablack That is fucking velvet. Ew. Yep. That's real? Yep. Wait a minute. That says Vantablack, but that's not Vantablack. That is a velvet car. That's on Rodeo. Wait a minute. This Rolls Royce is not a Vantablack?

It's not Vantablack. Is it impossible? It says it is there. I'm telling you, they haven't painted a car in Vantablack. So either that's fake or it's the velvet shit they're doing now. I think that's a computer yeah it's a yeah wood yeah what it would look like yeah now what is it made out of that allows it to get to this level of darkness you know i don't know it is just damn crazy looking that looks dope joe please don't put your to make a velvet car i can. We can't be friends anymore. I wouldn't do that.

I saw Justin Bieber once driving around in a leopard print Audi. Oh, he's got to do what he's got to do. If you were 23 years old and drowning in pussy, you'd probably do the same thing. I think this was years ago. He was probably 19. He's probably trying to keep them away from him. He's probably trying to have the grossest looking car possible just to say, look, stay away from my dick.

He needs to recover. Who of your crazy guests has rolled up to your studio in the dopest car do you does anything come to mind did bilzerian roll up in that six by six he's got there's the leopard i told you i wasn't that is so gross that's a disgusting i bet you didn't even really believe me until you saw it because I knew he had a chrome Fisker Fisker Karma

they just re-released that thing I heard they did though the company bought all the assets they started blowing up when they hit water I asked for one for review I was politely declined Yeah I wonder why You got a big mouth

You're going to drive through a puddle and it's going to explode Yeah electric cars man There's a bright future I don't want to jump in yet And I don't want anything driving for me Have you driven an electric car ever? Yeah I've driven a Tesla They're nice

It's weird It does but in an urban environment You can see why it's a nice experience True. Have you driven an electric car ever? Yeah, I've driven a Tesla. They're nice. They're nice. Yeah. It's weird. It feels weird. It does, but in an urban environment, you can see why it's a nice experience. When I drive an electric car, there's the chrome fisker. When I drive an electric car and I get where I'm going, I am noticeably more relaxed than when I'm driving a gas car, especially if I'm driving a loud sports car. Right, right, right. The...

Yeah. Those vibrations and stuff go through your body and kind of like stick with you versus the serenity of that silence. Just the 250 mile range annoys the shit out of me. Yeah, yeah. No, they need infrastructure. Like, considering how many Teslas are in Los Angeles, there's an embarrassingly small number of superchargers in this city.

There's not a lot of places to charge a Tesla outside of your home. And they really need to do the infrastructure and they need to come up with a faster charging solution, which Porsche, it seems, may have done. Porsche has a new electric car coming out called the Mission E, which is a Tesla fighting thing. And they supposedly have a fast charging system that can do like an 80% charge in 10 minutes or something. Whoa. Yeah. Whoa.

So, you know. That's crazy. 10 minutes is pretty close to gas. 10 minutes is fast. Gas is three, right? Yeah. Three to five. Yeah.

10 is fine. 10 works. Yeah. Ten is fine. Ten works. Yeah, ten's good. And a competitor is good because, you know, Teslas, you can't charge them for free anymore. You don't? No. The Model 3s and the new ones, they don't come with free charging anymore. These motherfuckers, that's how they get you.

Five dollar rocks. First one's free. Oh, that's how they get you. Yep. No more free juice. Wow. How long was it free for? A few years.

In 2013, the Model S came out in four years or so. So what happens when you pull into the airport and you go to one of them electric spots? Credit card. Or you have a RFID fob or something. Motherfuckers. Yeah. These motherfuckers. Gotta pay to play, my friend.

Why can't they figure out how, with all the sun in LA, to have a solar-powered car? Uh, you just, it's just not possible with photovoltaic cells to generate enough juice. Dude, it takes so much juice to move a 4,000-pound car down the road. Yeah. So much more than turning on a light or playing a radio. Like, that mass movement movement it takes so much energy fisker had something on the roof that powers the radio right yeah i know there are a couple of company fisker was one someone else did a photovoltaic roof where it it like circulates

the climate the air when it's really hot out or it can pre-turn on certain things and shit like that. Yeah, yeah. But it's not enough to run or charge a car. What if that's going to change in the future? I don't know. Have solar panels really, have they come that far yet? Well, Tesla has a roof tile.

Have you seen this? Yeah, I have. The Tesla roof tile. Yeah. That's fascinating. They're trying to do a Tesla solar tile that goes on your roof that then will feed into the

Tesla battery pack that hangs on your wall, you know, and then you can be autonomous. Basically. Sort of, but you're still on the grid. Yes. And you give money back to the thing. The reason why they do that, they don't want you being completely off the grid. They don't want the grid to die. Right. You know, people are really worried about that.

Well, I'm building a building right now. So get this. L.A., you know, I'm a Democrat, but L.A. will make you want to hang yourself building shit. So I have to prep my building for solar panels, whether I put them on or not. If I put them on, they're $92,000 to cover the roof and solar panels. And I will pay, they pay themselves off in seven years. So I generate $12,000 or so a year in power. And then after that, I'm fully, fully positive and the city will pay me every year. And they pay themselves off in seven years and the lifespan of them is 20 years

So I could potentially have many years of free power Wow. Yeah, so you're You're building. I'm building a collector car storage facility. Here's where I plug it. It's called Westside collector car storage It's gonna be in Playa Vista, California, which is the sweet new part of LA. Beautiful area. Yeah. Do you know where the Clippers practice facility is? No. Have you seen that? No.

It's right next to the Fox Hills Mall, right by LAX, Venice. It's conveniently located. And I'm going to have storage for 150 cars. It's going to be secure, climate control, the whole deal. So you're doing it as an investment? As a business. Yeah, as a business. Ground up.

It's a great idea. For you know it's not for me and we're building a cool studio there like this like you've got instead of my shanty little studio now you're gonna do a podcast hell yeah yeah and the podcast studio is going to be elevated so we have car stackers so i have 24 high stackers and the studio is elevated and we'll just look out over the stacked cars yeah it's gonna be killer dude but i have to comply with a lot of california environmental craziness i have to put a fire hydrant in this like for the city like i have to do it for the city to get a building permit well it kind of makes sense if your fucking cars catch on fire. You got a lot of gasoline in that one spot. Yeah, yeah.

The fire system that we have to build is incredible. I would imagine. Yeah, and we have to have auxiliary pumps. It flows 3,500 gallons a minute. Wow. And every car, so the stacks, every car on a stack has two nozzles at it, front and back. Wow. The whole way.

Every car has its own set of nozzles at it. Front and back. Wow. The whole way. Every car has its own set of nozzles. Wow. Yeah. So if a fire starts over here, it's completely contained over here. And the idea is that it doesn't. And do they kick on automatically? Yeah. Oh, wow.

That's incredible. Yeah. That's great. That's really neat. But I'm like four years into this now. Have you broken ground yet? Hopefully next week. Wow.

Hopefully next week. Four years. My permits just got Just got approved Wow That's dope dude Come back on when it's done Oh it'll be great Come back on when it's done

I'm so excited Let people know Thank you We've been doing this for like Three hours and a half Is there anything else? Nah Is there any other

Shit going on? No I'm just happy to see you I'm happy to see you too man I'm sorry I didn't get to come To your New Year's show Because I've made it a tradition Two years in a row Shows all over this place

I know. I liked your new special, too. Thank you. The one where it was cropped tight. Yeah. I liked that very much. I'm doing that with my next one, too. I'm trying to make it like you're sitting in the audience.

That's great. That's the idea behind it. And I liked Chappelle's tiny one he did in the belly room. Oh, yeah. I was at Gotham Comedy Club when he first told that Iceberg Slim story when he came back from Africa. I was friends with Chris Mazzilli and he's like, come down, Chappelle's back. You know Chris? Yeah, from back in New York.

He has a Corvette Stingray like yours. Does he really? Yeah. Shout out to Chris. Shout out to Chris Mazzilli. That special was good and Judah Friedlander's was amazing. Is it on Netflix? Yeah. It's called America's the Best Country in the United States.

It is so good. All right. Beautiful. I'll check it out. It's so good. Thanks for having me, man. This was fun. My pleasure, man.

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