The Joe Rogan Experience - #1140 - Joey Diaz

Episode Date: July 3, 2018

Joey “CoCo” Diaz is a Cuban-American stand up comedian and actor. Joey also hosts his own podcast called “The Church of What’s Happening Now” available on Spotify. ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. The first man to smoke marijuana never really smoked it, he inhaled it. He was a Chinese man, he was a very great man. And whenever he lit the plant, it wasn't to get high, but he would start to get high, and every time he got high, a blue bird would come to him and tell him to conquer his neighboring neighborhoods. And he listened to those, to the bird, and that's exactly what he did, and he became a great emperor in China. And at that point in the story,
Starting point is 00:00:39 Pablo Escobar looks at his doctor and he goes, have you ever been to Disneyland? And the doctor goes, no, Pablo, I haven't. He goes, very clean, very organized. Whoa. That's it. But it's the truth. The first guy that ever got high was a Chinese dude that burnt the plant because he liked the smell of the plant. It gave him a soothing.
Starting point is 00:01:07 But after days of doing it, it packed up in his body, and he started hallucinating. He saw a bluebird. A bluebird came to him and told him that he had to conquer the neighborhoods within the region. What a crazy bird. He got high, and a bird started talking to him. What are you going to do? You know, I don't know if this is true,
Starting point is 00:01:29 but this is one of the things that the pot aficionados always used to say. Is that, you know when a priest walks down the aisle and they have that thing that they swing and there's burning incense inside of it? That used to be weed. That's what they used to do. When and what dimension? I don't know. At one point, I believe it was weed. Then it became that shit that Batman shot at the Green Hornet.
Starting point is 00:01:50 It was like pedophile smoke. You wake up, your shirt's bombed backwards and shit, your pants are missing. Well, what is it now? What kind of incense is it now? It's like this blue smoke. I go in there to church every once in a while. You have to go for the full effect one. Like the
Starting point is 00:02:07 five in the afternoon on Saturday and the early morning Sunday, they don't break out the incense. They don't start breaking out the fucking malukia fucking salam ala malankay and the guy comes out and one guy comes out throwing water. Jesus. And then the other guy. It's so
Starting point is 00:02:23 weird how... Somebody made a great point on Twitter the other day. They said, you, me, Mitch Hedberg, there's five of us that delivered newspapers. There's five comedians that delivered newspapers. Hedberg did it? Yeah. You delivered them in a car to other places. I was an asshole that took a route, but not the route in my neighborhood, the route in the neighborhood over. So I had to beat the kids there before they'd get there and steal the papers.
Starting point is 00:02:52 I would deliver them right to the doors. Oh, you did too? Yeah, yeah. And then you collected? Yeah, I collected from only a handful of people. Most people were on like a monthly subscription plan. They were switching over, but the people that you'd have to collect from, you had like this envelope, like a tan envelope. And you had to like mark off like, you know, when they owed things.
Starting point is 00:03:12 I barely remember it because it was only a couple of the clients. And after a while, I kind of got away from doing them. I said, I don't want to do these people that have – because it's too hard to collect. It's annoying. Like I don't want to have to go to people's houses. That was my specialty. I didn't like it. I must have been.
Starting point is 00:03:26 That was when I first got out of Catholic school, and my mom gave me an option that I had to go up there and work in the afternoons. I'm like, I got to figure something out. I just don't want to go up there anymore. And my friend said, I'm giving up my newspaper out. But he didn't give up the one in my neighborhood. He gave up the one in the next city over, the next town over in that city. I could still walk there. So I'd have to leave school and run over there because if not, the dudes would
Starting point is 00:03:50 steal my papers and sell them as their own on the fucking street corners. So I'd have to get them, put the circulars in, put them in a thing, and then throw them on people's balcony. And then on Fridays and Saturdays, I'd have to go back with a ring after dinner and collect. How you doing, Mr. Rogan? I'm here to pick up 75 cents. And they give you like $1.50. That was your tip. Right.
Starting point is 00:04:12 And you got like 22 cents a week for delivering the paper. Did you collect from everybody? I collected from everybody. I was there sufficiently. So what years were these? This has to be 73 74 75 yeah so i guess when i started doing it is when i started driving which had been like 83 i probably started 83 i probably started when i was 17 no that was 85 85 probably then that's when i probably started doing Yeah, you're too old to be collecting. I wouldn't pay you either.
Starting point is 00:04:45 Well, it wasn't even that. It was just annoying. Like, what you wanted to do was go to the depot, pick up the papers, chuck them into the people's driveways, and that's it. And then there was a few people that wanted it inside the door. So you'd have to get out of your car, open up their screen door, put it in there, and then leave. And the idea was that those people, everybody would say,
Starting point is 00:05:04 those people will would say those people will tip you better those two they'll tip you better okay and so we would only have like a few of those and i think after the first couple years they stopped doing those kind of collections or i definitely stopped doing them but it was an awesome job when you're like a young comic or you know even before i was a comic when i was fighting it was just uh i didn't have to do anything where someone was telling me what to do i could get in my car i could listen to whatever i wanted to i listened to charles lockwood era he had the morning the big mattress on uh i think it was bcn i I'm pretty sure it was WBCN in Boston.
Starting point is 00:05:47 It was this awesome radio show. I'd listen to that, chuck newspapers out windows. I'd do that for like three hours every day. You know? It was the best job ever, because then I would make enough money where I could pay my bills, but I still had all the time in the world to stand up all the time in the world to train all the time in the world to do anything
Starting point is 00:06:10 but it definitely fucked me up because you're not supposed to be getting up that early every day like that can't be good for you you know if you listen to people that know things about sleep like getting up at 4.30 in the morning or 5 in the morning every day
Starting point is 00:06:26 and not being responsible. That was the beginning. To me, that was the beginning of the new Joe Rogan era podcast. That was the first podcast I listened to that I agreed with a lot, but I also had a couple of mitigating factors because I believe that everybody's body
Starting point is 00:06:43 is a lot different. I know I could rock and roll. I could throw down on seven straight, but it's got to be seven straight. No, no, no. Get up to pee two times because once you're 50, it could be up and down. See, once you turn 50, 48, everything changes, Papa. So if you see you there at night, I'm drinking kombucha with water. That has to come out throughout the night.
Starting point is 00:07:07 And you will be up all fucking night on the hour, every hour. There's no REM sleep. There's no REM sleep. So once you get old, you have to control your thyroid. Dog, I've been a specialist on sleep since day one. That was one of the most interesting podcasts you had on. I bought the book and everything. And he made some great points in there. I didn't, I
Starting point is 00:07:28 wasn't raised on a nap, Joe Rogan. My mom didn't raise me on a nap. Once we came from Cuba and my dad died, there was no nap. I went where she went. So my day consisted of eight to three in the morning. She had a manager's room in the
Starting point is 00:07:44 back of the bar with a cot. And if I got tired at 1, go back there and take a nap. But I got to stay here until 3. Mama got to work. Wow. So my sleep was always horrific. Then when I was only 5 or 6 in school, then I went to normal sleep.
Starting point is 00:08:02 I went to Catholic grammar school, normal sleep. Everything was normal. But my mom had a bad thing that she did. My mom had an issue that a lot of parents don't do when they work nights. She did it from the heart because I have a friend who does it. Wake you up at 3 in the morning. Joe Rogan, Joe Rogan, get up. I brought you black ink and pasta with scongigli from Umberto's,
Starting point is 00:08:28 and I brought you a newspaper. Are you fucking kidding me? Can you imagine if I woke you up every night at 2 when you're 26 years old, Joe, at 3, 3 in the morning, and you know I'm doing it from my heart, and 7 out of 10 times you're going to get up and eat the scongigli or the marinara sandwich I brought you from Leo's because they worked in the city. So remember, if you bartend in New York City on the way home, you're going to stop.
Starting point is 00:08:53 No, you stop and get two slices of fucking the best pizza there is in Manhattan. So my mom would wake me up every night at 3.30 in the morning with a Cuban sandwich. That killed me over the years. That would make me get up every night at 3.30 in the morning with a Cuban sandwich. That killed me over the years. That would make me get up every night at 3. There's still nights that I'll be sleeping. I'll get a good night's sleep, but I'll look at the clock and it's 3 a.m. on the fucking dot because it's in my... But like last night I slept good. I fucked up. My sleep was bad after I read the book for a while. That's how deep it got into my head.
Starting point is 00:09:28 So when I went back to Weight Watchers, I realized I couldn't eat any more fucking edibles. Because they would make me hungry at night. I would fucking go off the charts with points. So I stopped eating edibles and Joe Rogan. My sleep pattern changed. Bad. I stopped eating edibles and Jorog and my sleep pattern changed bad. Like my body did not know how to go to fall asleep by itself. I went through a month of fucking two hours of sleep.
Starting point is 00:09:55 Jesus. Doing a bunch of shit and then three more hours in the afternoon. Did you try anything? Did you try like melatonin or anything like that? I did cocaine for 30 years, melatonin. I could eat 20 turkeys. They could all suck my dick. Gaba-gaba, gooboo-gooboo.
Starting point is 00:10:11 I drink them all together, the tea, the wine. Leave me alone, please. Leave me the fuck alone, all right? Go fuck yourself. I got something that's gaba-gaba, the tea, and the tryptophan put together, and they still don't find it. I buy it on Amazon. Not bad.
Starting point is 00:10:29 So what I learned to do was rotate it. So now I'm back on the animals. I found an expired bag of Chiba Chews, like from the Dave Chappelle tour when I went out with Dave that year. I found the bag with about 24 of them. Oh, my God. I slice them in half. You take one of those.
Starting point is 00:10:46 You wake up at 6 in the morning to pee. Your pee's brown. They're expired. You understand me? What happens if you eat expired edibles? Same thing when you eat an expired Vicodin. Listen to this. Listen to this.
Starting point is 00:10:59 Listen to this. This shit ain't fucking around, though. This works the jaw. You're going to fight Joe Schilling. Eat two of these and call me back on Monday though this works the jaw you're gonna fight Joe Schilling eat two of these and call me back on Monday ain't nobody knocking you out after he ate one of these those things put you in another dimension
Starting point is 00:11:14 oh my god I've been in a fucking other dimension since last week and I don't give a fuck I have not left the house in a week you understand me? I ate two of them on Saturday I knew you up in Idaho how beautiful was Idaho? beautiful how were the audiences? tremendous We understand me. I ate two of them on Saturday. I knew you up and I know how beautiful was I though beautiful How are the audience they were amazing tremendous tremendous? It's like the nicest people. It's a bunch of really smart people That's it. You know what?
Starting point is 00:11:34 Fuck California Fuck Portland Fuck New York. Fuck Chicago. They're gonna get mad. We're blowing up Boise. They want to keep it low-key Oh, yeah, no, they want to keep the low key. Oh, yeah. No, no. They want to keep it low key as fuck in all those areas. You could ski up there. They got everything up there. Nobody knows. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:52 They got a couple people. I hate black people. But they keep them on the side of the state. Mark Furman's up there fucking OJ's sister-in-law. You know what I'm saying? It's all right. It's all right. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:12:03 It's beautiful. And then you were in Tucson. My friend who I kidnapped showed up to your show. He said he had a great time. I go, why don't you say hello to Rogan? You could have done a podcast right there. He said he was embarrassed. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:12:17 Damn. But Saturday night, I ate a fucking edible Joe Rogan. I ate two of these expired ones. I ate one, and I said, let me take a chance. It's Saturday night I ate a fucking edible Joe Rogan. I ate two of these expired ones. I ate one, then I said, let me take a chance. It's Saturday night and I ate another one, and I noticed your movie was coming on, and it is fucking, what a phenomenal movie. Midnight Express, when they catch the kid
Starting point is 00:12:40 coming back from Turkey with hash on his body. Joe Rogan, that is one of the most hottest movies you'll ever fucking watch in your goddamn... The first 30 minutes of that, like, I thought I was going to die. Like, when they let him go through and they played him and as soon as he hit the fucking plane, they turned him around, ripped his shirt, and they dropped to their hands and knees
Starting point is 00:13:04 and they gave him the seven years, and they started raping him. Jesus. But I watched up to the part where fucking he became friends with this dude that had a cat. And the dude's name was Lecky. Lecky, Lecky was the guy's name. And Lecky killed the cat.
Starting point is 00:13:20 And they let this American know. You know that point where even, remember Michael Douglas and, what was that point where even Michael Douglas, and what was that movie where he's on a 405 and he just snaps? Fighting back, Michael Douglas and shit. Then they try to rob him. The three Mexicans try to rob him from his suitcase. What was that movie called?
Starting point is 00:13:38 Falling Down? Falling Down. He had, like, his day. Like, that was it. That was his last day to fucking live. Wow. This fucking dude finds out they killed that poor American's cat, and he throws a fucking beating on this Lepke dude.
Starting point is 00:13:56 Joe Rogan is one of the most disturbing beatings. There's two disturbing beatings in film history. That's number two, because he closes it out because the guy was a rat. So after he throws a beating on him, look, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, right there, he's spitting out the guy's tongue in the air. And they showed it. I got to give a shout out to Turner Classic Movies. You motherfuckers been throwing heat the last six nights.
Starting point is 00:14:19 They had on something else last night. They had the gambler on there that followed this. This is the 40th anniversary. Joe Rogan, he throws a beating on him, opens his mouth. I'm thinking, the guy's being a nice guy. He's going to give him mouth-to-mouth and save the guy's life. Fuck no. You see him going, and once he just pulls up like this, Joe, they slow it up.
Starting point is 00:14:43 Only a fucking real director. They had it on the waterfront last night. Jesus. Yeah, they ain't fucking around. And they curse. I was watching. I go, what is the commercials? And they said, fuck one time.
Starting point is 00:14:56 I go, I might as well play this hand out. They're going to show the tongue. Joe Rogan, he takes it out. You could see the rage from the fucking eight years in that Turkish jail getting fucked in the ass, eating that hummus, drinking that fucking watered-down tea from Lekki, and he just spits his fucking tongue in the air. Look at his beating, the best beating of all time.
Starting point is 00:15:18 There's only one better beating. Our boy, the Mexican, when he beat up Tom, the pilot, this is Lepke. Jesus. Dude, I forgot about this movie. This is a classic. This is a classic 70s movie. This is crazy, dude.
Starting point is 00:15:37 Look at him. This is eight years of getting beat up every day. I'm going to fucking kill you, you fuck. Fuck, dude. This is an intense scene. What year is this movie? 78. I was a kid. I still remember going to see this in the movies and leaving there
Starting point is 00:15:57 like, dog, I ain't ever going to Turkey. Jesus Christ. The scene, for the people that are just listening um he's he's tearing apart this bathroom to get this guy i don't remember who the guy is he's the guy that sells watered down hash and he rats you out and he's just a creepy fucking dude and then to finally push him over the tap he hangs his cat He wakes up to his cat being hung. And right here, people,
Starting point is 00:16:27 this is the fucking strength of the 70s. Balls to the wall. Oh, Jesus Christ. Yeah, no, this is real deal right here. Look at him. Look at him. Look at him. Look at him.
Starting point is 00:16:39 Oh, shit. Are you fucking nuts? Good morning. It's the 4th of July. You're fucking with an American, motherfuckers. Even in Turkey, we lose our fucking minds. That guy must have been half Armenian or something when he bit his tongue out. He goes, there you go.
Starting point is 00:16:57 Dude. This guy ended up dying of AIDS in real life. This is a strong, strong. Next time you have two hours... The guy, the real life guy in jail or the actor? No, no, this guy, the actor. Who was he? What was his name? I forget what his name. Brett. Brett. Brad Davis. Jesus.
Starting point is 00:17:14 Then the second best beating is our man Anthony Quinn at the end. When he was 80, he beat the shit out of the good-looking dude for fucking his girlfriend, Mary O. Stowe, Madeline Stowe, in a movie called Revenge. Oh, yeah, I remember Revenge.
Starting point is 00:17:36 Kevin Costner. Kevin Costner. And then he slices her face and he fucking puts her in a whorehouse to get fucked in the ass every hour on the hour. Fucking, this is it. It's the 4th of July, dog. Get your shit together. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:17:51 If Alex Jones is correct, we're going to have a civil war today. So what the fuck? You talk to Alex, you got to calm him down. Alex, you got to calm down. Talking about a civil war. He had me doing an extra chibichu the other night. I was polishing the fucking musket. Alex thinks I'm defending the New World Order because I didn't think that George Soros was a Nazi.
Starting point is 00:18:17 It's all so painful. What's up, Joe? Nothing. What's happening, brother? Everything's great, man. Me too. I feel good. Alex Jones, I love you, buddy.
Starting point is 00:18:27 For real. But you say some silly shit. That's where this all comes from. Doesn't mean I don't love you. You're a great guy. But there's some shit that's just silly. It's a waste of time. You know?
Starting point is 00:18:42 That's one of those things that's just a waste of time. Does that make sense? I'm with you. I think there's real conspiracies, you know, but I think there's some that, you know, people just get caught up in looking for conspiracies in everything. And after a while, it's exhausting. Let's get the bull off the table. I love the guy. I loved the podcast with ari last week
Starting point is 00:19:06 yesterday tina turned his son but look he's get alex jones gonna hear this so i'm just i gotta finish okay i'm so sorry no it's okay it's just i love the guy i really do i just don't support a lot of the shit that he said like the sandy hook stuff i don't know if he's since disavowed that i don't know if he changed his opinion on it. I don't know what it is. But at a certain point in time, you're like, Jesus, man. Are you sure? Like, you got to be really sure before you say something crazy like that.
Starting point is 00:19:36 Right? Don't you? I mean, don't you think? Look, I think he's a great guy as a person. I'm not attacking him. I just, when he goes crazy, he gets mad at me. I want to hug him. I love when he told me this story about trucks pulling up in front of your house
Starting point is 00:19:59 and they could see through your walls. They probably can do that. They do that in different neighborhoods. They probably can do that. They do that in different neighborhoods. They probably can do something like that. But then after five of those, and this is my experience with him, he'll tell you something that you got to sit there and go, what the fuck am I doing sitting here?
Starting point is 00:20:16 But that's cool. That's Alex and we accept him for what the fuck he is. I just thought there was a civil war starting today. That's what he was saying. The Democrats are going at it today. So somebody's shooting somebody. So who the fuck knows? So just to calm Alex down, nobody's telling me what to say.
Starting point is 00:20:32 No one's telling me what to do. Not involved in the New World Order. Who's the New World Order? Just a comedian. Just enlighten me about the New World Order. I'm not sure. I'm not involved, though. I just want Alex to know I'm not involved.
Starting point is 00:20:43 Who are those people you're eating dinner with the other night? Were you the New World Daughter? Who's the dinner people? The people you say you were eating with Smart Meat. Oh, they just, these are all podcasters and former professors and all these different people that are doing different things together. You scared me the other day, though. Yeah, Eddie on the ropes, right?
Starting point is 00:21:01 He was thinking he went back with the CIA. What? Yeah, you got people on the ropes. Eddie? What are thinking he went back with the CIA. What? What? Yeah, you got people on the ropes. What are you talking about? You know, he's talking about the CIA. Who knows? What? Nothing.
Starting point is 00:21:12 What the fuck are you saying? Don't worry about nothing. He's the chief of chief. It's the 4th of July. What are you giving him? No fireworks at fucking CBS Radford. I think conspiracies are fun, and that's part of the problem with conspiracies.
Starting point is 00:21:26 They're fun. They're fun to chase down. They really are. They're interesting. I'll tell you what's fun to chase down, to read about one and to absorb it by yourself. Once I get into a room with three men and we're on a conspiracy for 48 minutes, that's when I get aggravated. That's what I don't ever want to talk about. That's the shit that kills me.
Starting point is 00:21:47 I don't have the time to discuss whether the moon landing or not. We all have an idea what we think happened. Guess what? I really don't want to talk about it. Not on the fucking 4th of July. Yeah, no. The problem with them is, and this is a tendency, is that when people get really into conspiracy theories,
Starting point is 00:22:04 they're into everything being a conspiracy. with them is, and this is a tendency, is that when people get really into conspiracy theories, they're into everything being a conspiracy. It's not like they're into conspiracy theories and also into the history of Cuba. They can give you a detailed history of some really crazy shit that went down. Like how many people that are really into conspiracy theories could give you a rundown on how Castro took over Cubaa which is like a real thing that happened in you know our parents lifetimes right think about that how many people that are into like you know whether or not there's bases on the moon know about you know all these different things that have happened through human history the mongols. The Roman Empire.
Starting point is 00:22:46 The Greek Empire. There was crazy shit that definitely really happened. All the stuff that happened during the Vietnam War. All the stuff that happened during the Nixon administration. All that stuff's real. It's fascinating. Fascinating shit to look into. But then you get to dumb ones.
Starting point is 00:23:03 Like, oh, God. god we really discussing whether or not the earth is flat is this a real conversation like people really doing that satellites aren't real go on social media you'll find a bunch of people to do that'll agree with you to to be so careful about not listening to scientists. I'm going to tell you what else I saw on Saturday, on Sunday night. Sunday night on the 50 Years of 60 Minutes, they were showing how they interviewed different people
Starting point is 00:23:35 and how the one guy went to Saddam Hussein. And he said to him, ask him to tell him that this guy said he's crazy. And the interpreter looked at him and says, you think, Jerry, I ain't asking him that. And there was one particular interview. He was just talking about the interview. He was one of the best interviews he ever did. It was when he pushed the guy, the guy that was standing behind Kennedy in the car, the agent that should have taken the bullet for Kennedy.
Starting point is 00:24:12 They interviewed that guy. That's a great, you got to hunt that one down. Wow. He was one step behind. I mean, he breaks down into tears. He's a real American. Like, this is a guy that's a real American. Took that job, and they're like, it wasn't your fault. And he's like,'s a real American. Like, this is a guy that's a real American. Took that job,
Starting point is 00:24:31 and then, like, it wasn't your fault. And he's like, you don't understand. I was a second behind. If I would have been there just one second early, I would have caught it in my back, and the president would have been alive. I mean, it's fucking crazy. Jesus. Can you imagine being dedicated To protect a guy with your own life And to really Drink the serum And to believe it like a fucking Soldier
Starting point is 00:24:54 Those are very special human beings That can do that It's not a lot of human beings That have that kind of resolve Or throw their life In front of a bullet to protect someone else's that's intense that is intense and you have to hear where the bullet is coming from what your response time has to be to be this is when you're a real high level bodyguard this is you are the highest of the highest your hearing
Starting point is 00:25:28 is impeccable this means when you're walking down the street with this guy inside you have to learn by yourself how to shut off nature and noises and listen to footsteps, weapons clicking, holsters opening. Think of how interesting just that alone is. That's why sometimes when you see them, they're holding one ear because there's zero in on anything particular. A car's tires screeching differently. Think of that fucking job because that that's what that job is. To react to that.
Starting point is 00:26:08 So if Joe Rogan has eight guys, when they train, and I don't even know. I've never trained in Quantico. But I just know that I guarantee the first two guys, the first four guys are lead guys. They have a mission. One guy gets to the door if there's a shooting. The other guy ducked. Two guys ducked for the president. There's got to be plans.
Starting point is 00:26:31 It's like formations in football. Jesus. What if the linebacker goes this way, you run around me? This doesn't take a fucking genius to tell you. There has to be formations to protect the president or whoever it is you're protecting in that level. to be formations to protect the president or whoever it is you're protecting in that level. When I'm protecting Kevin Hart, how many people are going to try to assassinate Kevin Hart? When I'm protecting a president, how many people are going to really try to shoot that president with weapons? I mean, let's go to the Ronald Reagan attempt. Let's go to these attempts.
Starting point is 00:27:00 With weapons. I mean, let's go to the Ronald Reagan attempt. Let's go to these attempts. How fucking fast. You have to be so high elite. Vietnam, another war, and then you had to do a tour of something else where you were just like a spook. You tiptoed and killed people with toothpicks and shit like this. This is my training. This is what I think you're training you with.
Starting point is 00:27:26 I don't think you're just born to be Rambo. I think they have to take you to government and they start with a hundred Rambos. They just keep training, training, training. You lose some along the way and after every hundred, you get eight fucking
Starting point is 00:27:42 savages that never had a chance to get married. Theages that never had a chance to get married. The government never gave them a chance to get married. They're that good. Well, all these guys that I know that have been Navy SEALs, all of them are any special forces guys. Those are different humans. They're just different people. Now, what's navy seal okay so you're in that yeah and um there's just a level that you have to be you have to have more control over your mind more control over your will more control over
Starting point is 00:28:22 your discipline you're you're in the most elite branch of the military. I mean, this is the elite of the elite. I mean, they make it insanely difficult to get in. So you just get the cream of the crops. The people who are just their mental fortitude is just unlike an average person. If you meet a bunch of people like that, man, you realize, like, wow, people come in all kinds of different levels. There's people that just only surround themselves with other excellence. And those dudes, like those Jocko type dudes or Tim Kennedy type dudes, that's like a different kind of human.
Starting point is 00:29:06 They don't make a lot of those if you just want to have only those boy you gotta there's a lot that has to happen before you can become a person like that you have to you have to travel through many valleys of the mind and the body to get to be a person like that. A person of insane resolve in a time of war. It's a very very intense human being. It's not even a time of war. Look at these 12 Filipino kids in the fucking
Starting point is 00:29:35 back cave, stuck down there. Look who went to get them, the fucking SEALs. The SEALs, the SEAL team went down there. Is that what happened? Well, there's different various agencies but there's also a SEALs, the SEAL team went down there. Is that what happened? Well, there's different various agencies, but there's also a SEAL team there. Makes sense. The SEAL team, that's as elite as elite.
Starting point is 00:29:54 So do you, I don't even know, that's how you probably become a fucking bodyguard to the president. You'd have to fucking start like as an attache somewhere for a year or two with a suit on just to adjust to human life and life without fucking hearing bombs go off every 20 minutes and shit. And then move up in
Starting point is 00:30:16 that system until you get to that level of the Secret Service. There's no way you're going to be a they put you through Secret Service training school and you're there in 60 fucking days. Let me tell you something. My daughter goes to science camp, you know, whatever the fuck, until pre-K starts.
Starting point is 00:30:35 And one of the kids, she goes with his dad. He's an FBI agent. So you know what my job is every day? To sneak up on him. Every day I sneak up on him and put a gun to his side. And I go, what's going on? And I pat him in the back. And he giggles and shit.
Starting point is 00:30:49 And I tell my wife every day. He's the worst FBI agent I've ever seen in my life. Because I'm 280 and I'm tiptoeing up to him. And he don't even hear me in bushes or nothing like that. That's how good I am. Do you know why, dog? Because they hire him right out of an academy today, Joe Rogan, right out of college. That's why we have so many shootings. That's why we have so many shootings.
Starting point is 00:31:07 That's why we have so many accidents out there with police officers. They don't hire neighborhood kids anymore. They hire college graduates that have never had what we had. See, when you were growing up, if all else failed, you've never been arrested in your life. You really could have been a cop. You're a nice guy, but you really could have been Joe the Cop. You could have been Joe the Cop and Quincy Mass that drives around and shit like that. Sure, anybody could be.
Starting point is 00:31:36 Anybody could be a cop. But Joe the Cop would have been different. If Joe the Cop would have came in here and seen me and Jamie argue, Joe the Cop wouldn't arrest me and Jamie. Joe the Cop would say, I want and seen me and Jamie argue, Joe the cop wouldn't arrest me and Jamie. Joe the cop would say, I want to meet you motherfuckers tomorrow at 3, and he would give us both boxing gloves. And we would box it out when we were 12 and both go home and get ice cream the next day.
Starting point is 00:31:56 Joe the cop wouldn't throw us both in jail. Joe the cop wouldn't throw us against a wall, and if we turned around, he'd shoot one of us in the fucking leg. He was part of the community, Joe the cop. And Joe the cop knew what it was like living in that community as a child. Do you understand me? Right. And I didn't know this.
Starting point is 00:32:16 I'd been thinking a lot about this, and I ran into somebody, and I asked him, an ex-cop, why are we having the situations we're having in this country? The one last week in fucking East Pittsburgh is just mind-blowing. That motherfucker just now, there's a lot of different angles for that.
Starting point is 00:32:34 They had just finished doing a shootout. But the kid took off. This cop watched him, said, okay, got down, dropped down military style, and blasted him three times. Shoot me in the leg, okay. Got down, dropped down military style and blasted him three times. Shoot me in the leg, bitch. Shoot me in the leg for running away.
Starting point is 00:32:50 That's what Joe the cop would do. Yeah, but even shooting someone in the leg, running away. It's got to be something that they did that's really fucked up. Well, listen, I believe in shooting someone in the leg. I'd rather shoot you in the leg than take your fucking life. I hear you. I'd rather shoot you in the leg than take your fucking life. I hear you. I'd rather shoot you in the leg than take your life if it's an iffy call. But just so you know, it's not safe to shoot someone in the leg.
Starting point is 00:33:11 People die from getting shot in the leg. How about I shot you in the fucking ankle? No, okay, but I'm just saying. How about I shoot you in the wrist? I don't want to give anybody the impression they can just go around shooting people in the leg. How many movies did we grow up with and the guy got shot in the shoulder and he just went? You know what I'm saying? You live getting shot in the shoulder.
Starting point is 00:33:27 You know what my favorite is? What? They get pistol whipped and then when they wake up, it's like nothing happened. They just start duking it out with people. They got pistol whipped. Everybody was pistol whipping people. Remember that? They would just club them in the head with the pistol.
Starting point is 00:33:40 That was so crazy. That was like a thing. And then these people would wake up, why? What happened? I didn't get pistol whipped with the butt. I got pistol whipped with the gun to the head. Nothing bled, thank God. But it fucking hurt.
Starting point is 00:33:59 I don't know what the fuck type of gun. It was like an automatic, like a 9mm type thing. It wasn't like a revolver I never got hit with the butt or what a weird feature of the human body if that you hit it in the right spots It goes out Like we have like a plug We have like a loose like some people's plugs a little looser than others Some people's plugs like mark hunt hunt it takes forever to knock it loose some people
Starting point is 00:34:26 can just take it some people can't it's fucking weird it's a weird characteristic you hit people and they go unconscious it's very strange it's a very strange feature that we exploit you know but in movies they always make it like it's no big deal. It's a big fucking deal. It's a big deal. You should avoid having it done to you. It's a big deal to get knocked unconscious. You know, it's so weird.
Starting point is 00:35:00 When we first started hanging out one afternoon, you took me to see that boxing coach. And at the time, he had four Academy Award guys he was training. Was that Terry Claiborne? Terry Claiborne. Terry's amazing. He's a great guy. We walked in there.
Starting point is 00:35:15 We went upstairs. And I think at the time when we walked up, Nicolas Cage was up there at the time with his little hairpiece on and shit, looking like Johnny Goomba and stuff and then Terry came over and gave you a hug and we went downstairs and Terry grabbed
Starting point is 00:35:32 Steve Simone later on because Steve worked there at the time. This is 97, 98 as a gym guy. Oh, yeah. And he goes, boy, that guy's
Starting point is 00:35:40 in the wrong profession as a comic. He should have been a boxer. He hits like a mule, you know, and I never forgot that, him saying that and all the stuff you talk about in the wrong profession as a comic he should have been a boxer it's like a mule you know and i never forgot that him saying that and all the stuff you talk about brain damage and whatever it took a lot for you to at that age to realize that this was for real this was this was dangerous there was no money in it there was no temptation this head this head is not
Starting point is 00:36:04 this is real it was real but there was also i didn't have any temptation now what happened before this what happened before this like what happened to the guys that i saw playing black football and black and white with leather helmets well you know leather helmets are safer believe it or not because you don't feel as confident when they had those leather helmets they didn't crash into each other the same way there's an there's a opinion i don't know if i agree with it because you don't feel as confident. When they had those leather helmets, they didn't crash into each other the same way. There's an opinion. I don't know if I agree with it because I don't know much about the sport. But there's an opinion that no pads, no helmets, football would be safer.
Starting point is 00:36:36 Because you wouldn't be able to do the same things that they're doing now. You can't just run into people head to head. It would just destroy you. And you could only do it a few times. Your body would just destroy you. And you could only do it a few times. Your body would just start breaking. But if you're putting helmets on and pads, it accentuates your ability to run into someone with all your force. That's unnatural.
Starting point is 00:36:53 And it creates an unnatural jarring of the body and the brain that the rugby guys don't get. The rugby guys don't have all those pads. So when they're clashing into each other, they're learning how to roll with things. They're not just colliding into each other. There's a different game when you've got padding. So if you take away the padding, people have to be more careful in how they're engaged.
Starting point is 00:37:17 They can't just charge in and smash into each other. They won't last. They'll have to adjust the game. How is CTE in the game of rugby? It's a contact sport. For sure, people are getting banged rugby? It's a contact sport, for sure. Right, it is. People are getting banged up.
Starting point is 00:37:30 It's a contact sport, and it's a wild contact sport. Are there any? I don't know. I don't know. Interesting to find out. I remember being a kid, dog. I'm from Jersey. It's a real good question, though. We're from fucking Jersey, right?
Starting point is 00:37:38 Yeah. We know football. I didn't even know soccer back then. When I lived in Jersey, there was no soccer. A couple Spanish people played the dark side of the court. They played soccer on Sundays. They wouldn't even let nobody watch them, a couple Spanish guys. But besides that, soccer was not big in my area.
Starting point is 00:37:55 But when I moved to Aspen, I would go to Aspen on Saturdays just to walk around, get a beer, get a sandwich, and I'd see rugby. I never saw that. I didn't even know what the fuck it was. And I was in good shape. And after about three times that I went, one of the guys said to me, why don't you show up on a fucking Saturday? And I looked at them like, what are you crazy? Like, I don't even
Starting point is 00:38:20 know what the fuck you guys are doing. They have a big rug fest in Aspen every year. Pretty much every year. That's where I first saw rugby was in Colorado. I don't think I've ever seen it live. I've only seen it on TV. Yeah, no, I've seen it live.
Starting point is 00:38:34 That's when you hear all that shit. I saw two things that blew me away live in Colorado. I saw rugby, and I saw they did like a Tour de France type race, but they did it at Snowmass Village. And I knew exactly what it was, the road up, and how it would have to be a circle to go back.
Starting point is 00:38:55 You didn't have to go back down to Route 82. You would just do circles around Snowmass. And I still remember being on a hill listening to them going up the hill. And it just blew my fucking mind, the way the tire was hitting, the speeds, like how fast they were going uphill. And then 20 years later, you realize they're doing PPOs
Starting point is 00:39:21 and fucking hanging out with Sheryl Crow's old husband, shooting all that shit. Can you imagine when they were shooting in the 80s when I saw them? Jesus. Was shit stronger back then? I can only imagine. What's the drug that they shoot that their legs won't stop moving at night so they got to get on the bicycle? Oh, EPO.
Starting point is 00:39:41 It's not that the legs stop moving. Their blood gets thick. Apparently. I'm probably saying it wrong. But they have this feeling like they have to exercise. One of our buddies was a biker. And, you know, he was a professional tour guide. Just like, you know, not like a super famous, super successful one. But he was a professional bike rider.
Starting point is 00:40:02 What would you call one of those? Cyclist. A professional cyclist. And he would tell us about it how guys you'd hear them he knew that they were on epo and then you would hear them uh when they were on a tour bus they'd get up in the middle of the night and go ride their bike like they felt like they had to exercise so i guess if you're on a lot of it i don't know i don't i've never done it it seems like it would be awesome though if you could take some drug that like super juiced up your endurance that sounds awesome but apparently it's just not very safe and they were saying that um a lot of uh executives take
Starting point is 00:40:40 it now like there's there's people that are executives that uh are just entering endurance races and they're taking epo and and entering into these endurance races that like regular people with regular jobs just decided to take it there was some article about that see if you could find it it was like ceos uh entering into endurance races and taking EPO. But a few fighters have been caught with it, and it apparently just really juices up your endurance. And the purpose of it is endurance value. You can go 16 rounds instead of fucking type shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:18 I had a friend that used to shoot and eat steroids and never do a push-up. Jesus Christ. He was whacked that's crazy and i go dog when are you gonna go to the gym next week that's insane i'll never forget him seeing him eat like half a bottle of winnie v the pink footballs like the pink ones in the 80s he would just put them in his hand like tic tacs with a beer oh to the gym tomorrow. I did some push-ups today. Just my biceps. That's all I need. A few biceps. I want lats.
Starting point is 00:41:49 Italians. Crazy group of humans that came over. I always want you to do the impersonation from you when Italian people in Jersey found out that Marlon Brando is gay. I can't fucking believe it. 20 years he was the godfather.
Starting point is 00:42:14 And no, no, no. He couldn't blow a regular dude. No, God forbid. He blows a black dude to really stab me right here in the fucking heart. I couldn't even take it no more. I had to throw the DVD collection away. I would love to hear one of those guys, what they said when they found out
Starting point is 00:42:31 that week. Didn't they say that he fucked everybody, men and women? Oh yeah, he banged everybody. He fucked everybody. Yeah, and then it came out he was banging the guy with the big dick and cube. That's right. Superman.
Starting point is 00:42:43 That's right. Poor Italian people. They. That's right. That's right. So fucking poor Italian people, if they had Godfather fans, they were lighting those fucking DVDs on fire. Fuck Marlon Brando. Poor homophobes. I like them more now.
Starting point is 00:43:00 I like Marlon Brando more now than I found out he did. I love Marlon Brando. Yeah, I don't give a fuck. Listen, Marlon Brando, dog. To me, Richard Pryor, thinking about Richard Pryor getting so coked up that he let Marlon Brando. Yeah, I don't give a fuck. Listen, Marlon Brando, dog. To me, Richard Pryor, thinking about Richard Pryor getting so coked up that he let Marlon Brando fuck him was one of the things I was like, unless he loved. That's prejudice with me. I should just assume he enjoyed it.
Starting point is 00:43:15 I assume he enjoyed having sex with Marlon Brando. Why should I give a shit, right? Listen to me. For real, right? Just remember one thing. Because you're going to die when I tell you this. Uh-oh. Just remember one thing.
Starting point is 00:43:24 Because you're going to die when I tell you this. Uh-oh. Marlon Brando talked the studio into giving him like $100,000 to read Superman. Like, you know when people call you up, Joe, hi, Joe, this is Cynthia from your agents. Right. We're sending you a script over for you to approve to read. Give me $100,000. Give me $100,000 and I'll read it. When he went to the island, he went deep. And he a hundred grand. Give me a hundred grand and I'll read it. He went to the island. He went deep.
Starting point is 00:43:47 He believed his ego. You gotta remember, that was an all-time record for a long time, what he got for Superman. He banged him out. He took him to the cleaners type shit. He fucked him up in the ass bad. Like, big money. Find out what they paid him in 1970
Starting point is 00:44:03 whatever for Superman remember he fucked him big time I think it's Mutiny on the Bounty one of those movies they kept saying
Starting point is 00:44:12 oh we have a beautiful spot for you right here in Marina Del Rey if we do this we gotta do this on this island they found
Starting point is 00:44:20 he had gone down there and found love he's like there's a bunch of women running around with leaves on. You know what damage I can do? He made the studio shoot down there, and then they went down there.
Starting point is 00:44:32 Who wants to go to fucking whatever island they shot that at? So that's where he lived, right? So he went down there. He got down there. He's like, Jamie, what's your job? PA. No more. You're the director.
Starting point is 00:44:42 Rogan, you're this. And everybody was shooting, and they were shooting his feet. They were shooting like him running, like the shore. And meanwhile, he's just banging fucking Hawaiian women eight at a time, just having orgies, banging kids. All those kids that shot themselves, all those kids he had. Remember all those? Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:45:01 All those poor kids that fucking, God rest their souls, all those problems he had. He was down there like fucking just matadoring. Whoever Paramount, whoever the network was, showed up down there and said, let's see the dailies. And said, what the fuck is this? You're done. They brought somebody
Starting point is 00:45:20 else in. Marlon ended up saying, fuck it, I'll buy the island. He bought the island, didn't he? Like, this is just crazy shit I heard over the years. And they just lived on the island. And then if they wanted him, they had to call the island, and they had, like, levels. Oh, you want me to read the script? That's gonna
Starting point is 00:45:36 cost you 80. Oh, you want me to come to the studio? That's 300,000. Like, he had levels of fucking, and they would give it to him. And then they didn't want him for The Godfather. They were like, no, there's no way we want that fucking guy. And then finally he put the tape
Starting point is 00:45:52 in his mouth and all that shit, and they approved him. Bro, that movie's like a porn. The one he did, that last tango in Paris. That's like a light porn. And then the chick came out years later and said, that motherfucker Stone Cold raped me.
Starting point is 00:46:09 Really? Yeah, he was the king of Me Too. He invented Me Too, that motherfucker dog. Wow. Yeah, she came out years later and said something about she didn't know what was. Marlon Brando went in there and choked her out like McQueen in fucking... In the getaway.
Starting point is 00:46:29 She thought she was just getting pushed. Yeah, the McQueen and who was it with? Ali McGraw. Ali McGraw. That was hard to watch, dude. Because you could tell that was real. There's no way that wasn't real. Like, he was really hitting her.
Starting point is 00:46:43 Yeah. No, no, no. He was a method actor. He didn't give a fuck. Dude, he was really hitting her. Yeah. No, no, no. He was a method actor. Dude, that is harsh, man. He's crazy. He was crazy. That scene was so real because of it. I mean, it's awful to watch.
Starting point is 00:46:58 But it's real, right? It's real. It's an awful scene. It's real. Fuck, man. Imagine being her and all of a sudden the dude just starts smacking you in the head for real. You don't know what to do and you don't want to bail out of the scene. You're getting fucked up, though.
Starting point is 00:47:14 He's fucking you up. And she didn't stop. She just kept saying the lines and working with it. Fuck, dude. Jesus Christ. What do you say to somebody after that like hey man i'm sorry but that's what the scene called for you can't see i don't know peep for it sounds fucked up to say but i think even just that recent a time people did not
Starting point is 00:47:43 understand that if you're smacking people in the head like that, you're giving them fucking brain damage. Like, you smack someone in the head like that, like, you could seriously fuck them up. Like, something could be wrong with them for a long time, even if they don't go unconscious. Your mother was smacking you in the head?
Starting point is 00:48:00 No. No, my mom wasn't a hitter. Really? No, she wasn't a hitter. Who smacked you in the head? Very few people. An uncle? No. Very few people. Maybe my grandmother cracked me once.
Starting point is 00:48:19 But it was, you know, just like get your shit together. Not like trying to hurt me, you know? Just a little smack i didn't get beat as a kid but uh i saw a lot of violence i saw the seeing violence when you're a kid there's something about like seeing uh someone you're close to who's an adult beating beating up like a 10 or 11 year old. You ever see that before? When you see something like that. You ever see a grown adult beating the shit out of a 10 or 11 year old
Starting point is 00:48:52 when you're a little kid? Yes. That to me, that was like a defining moment when I was a little kid. As a parent? Or I only saw parents beat their children. Yeah, I saw someone beat somebody else's kid.
Starting point is 00:49:09 It was fucked up to watch, man. When I lived on 205 West 88th Street, when I came from Cuba, we lived in Jersey for a while. My dad died. We moved to 89th Street. Then something happened at the building. We ended up moving to 88th Street. I had a kid I had a beef with every day and one day i finally got my shit together in karate
Starting point is 00:49:30 like one day my sidekick started working and that fucking right cross started working i learned how to use my fucking up block and i finally had this kid his name was rudy the haitian he was the only haitian kid in the neighborhood. We lived on 88th Street. And I fucked him up this day and his father came down and held my arms. And he made Rudy punch me. And I'll never forget that. My lip was bleeding.
Starting point is 00:49:57 And he took me upstairs and he knocked on my mother's door. And my mother opened up the door and half a fucking hangover. And she goes, what's the problem? She goes, chill with Coco, you know. And he goes, next time your son hits my son, I'm going to hit him and I'm going to come up here and hit you. Wow. And my mom turned around and got a butcher knife
Starting point is 00:50:15 and chased Rudy's father up the stairs. The cops came and the lady next door said she didn't see a knife. Wow. But at that point, we were done in the building. Jesus. That was one of the worst there. When I moved to North Bergen, I saw parents that, you know, like you ever hear a comedian go, you ever hang out with white kids?
Starting point is 00:50:42 You go to their house, how they talk to their parents? I could never talk to my, you know. Right, right. That's the first thing I noticed. When I went to Jersey, there were certain kids that would take their dish and go, I don't want tuna fish sandwich. If I ever did that in my house, Joe Rogan, are you fucking kidding me? My mom would take the dish, throw it against the wall, and say, now you're not fucking eating. Go to bed.
Starting point is 00:51:06 Like that type of shit. But I also saw a fucking parent in the hallway one day that was standing the way you are with his arms crossed. Talking to the teacher the way I'm talking to you. And the kid standing right here with glasses on. And I'm walking towards him like, you know, I went to the bathroom. I had like a hall pass. And I'm talking, talking, talking. And in the middle of it, the father just going, bam, and hitting him with a backhand.
Starting point is 00:51:36 Kid goes down. Glasses broken. Blood's coming out of the nose. And he's telling him to get the fuck up before I fucking kill you, you dumb motherfucker. You said that to him, you dumb fuck. I have seen that. That kid was the devil, though. I knew that kid. I knew that kid.
Starting point is 00:51:54 That kid was the devil probably because his dad beat him. And then there was another kid when I went to Catholic school. Guido, father, Ginzo, the whole fucking thing. Bro, he would come there, the nicest guy in the world. But the son was fucking crazy.
Starting point is 00:52:15 And every time he'd get there, the nun would tell him about what he did. And dog, he would punch him the way... Un gallo was throwing punches at fucking Stipe. I swear to my mother's grave. Jesus Christ. As he was crawling into the car, like a fucking pound. 12. Jesus Christ. 10, 10, 10, 10.
Starting point is 00:52:37 I got thrown out of there at 11 of 10. So now, are you looking at me saying, Joey, did they deserve it or whatever? Now, are you looking at me saying, Joey, did they deserve it or whatever? Every parent had a different, you know, I watched a couple weeks ago, I was stoned to the gills, and I was laughing about how people put people down and shit, and I was laughing about when Julius Irving first, when the ABA shut down, when the ABA first shut down, I don't know, Joe, but if there was eight categories, Julius Irving led seven of them. Right.
Starting point is 00:53:09 The ABA shut down, and the Sixers picked up Julius Irving. They gave him $6 million, which, can you imagine that? What'd they give that guy yet? What'd they give LeBron? LeBron's getting about $30 or $40, but yeah. Yeah, he got $6 million over two years or something with Julius, and he was the biggest player in the world then. Now this guy's getting about $30 or $40, but yeah. Yeah, he got $6 million over two years or something with Julius,
Starting point is 00:53:25 and he was the biggest player in the world then. Now this guy's getting $154 for three or something. Jesus. So Dr. J switched his number from 32 to 6, and now the NBA All-Star Game came. So all the critics were like, psh, he came in from the ABA. He's going to get his ass kicked in the NBA. All-star game.
Starting point is 00:53:46 What? Go look at those statistics. He went off. He went off because of a white dude named Pistol Pete Maravich. He went to LSU and led the country in scoring. A white dude. Ended up becoming a fucking boozer. But that dude knew how to handle the ball because his father would beat him.
Starting point is 00:54:06 His father would make him sleep in the garage in the winter and beat him until he learned how to play basketball because there was no losing in his fucking house. Do you understand me, Joe Rogan? There's no fucking losers in my fucking house. Sleep in the garage. No dinner. But Pistol Pete knew how to fucking dribble, Jack.
Starting point is 00:54:27 And Pistol Pete would take you deep. Pistol Pete, anybody can cover. The best black dude in the league can cover Pistol Pete. But if you watch that NBA All-Star game, Pistol Pete is stomping, chomping people and giving behind-the-back passes to Julius Irving. He even looks at a dude on one path. He's looking at Bob McAdoo. I'm coming.
Starting point is 00:54:47 And all of a sudden he just puts the ball between his legs, and he gives it to Julius Irving. Why? Because that kid's father stayed on him. There's different thoughts of. Some people can handle that. Some people can't, though. Some guys are broken.
Starting point is 00:55:02 But, I mean, it's like how much pressure is too much pressure to create a superstar like that? Didn't Tiger Woods, didn't his dad put a lot of pressure on him as well? Isn't that the story? Let's talk about the guy that died last week. But that's a different thing. Joe Jackson? What the fuck is different about that? He created three fucking kids that changed the fucking world.
Starting point is 00:55:25 He beat him. He fucked him in the ass, the fucking... One kid that changed the fucking world. He beat him. He fucked him in the ass, supposedly. Where'd you hear this? I don't know. He did sexual assault to one of them. I think you gotta be really careful with saying things like that. I'm sorry. Listen, it's the Me Too thing. Things come out, what are you gonna do? Everybody's getting the blame for something. You know what I'm saying? But is this something you really heard? I've heard sexual
Starting point is 00:55:42 abuse allegations from his father, but listen to what did he create? What did he do? What did Joe Jackson do by making them not let them fucking and let me tell you something. The one kid could have gone to a college to play basketball.
Starting point is 00:55:58 The kids had talent as it was. Gary in the end. You ever go to Gary in the end? No. It's like hell. Fucking Delaware and then Gary, Indiana. You know what I'm saying? Like, Gary's like crazy. He made these kids rehearse.
Starting point is 00:56:18 He pulled them out of Gary. He took them up to fucking Barry Gordy. You know, you think about this shit. Some of them probably hated him for what he did you look back at those lessons that you got joe rogan how many people did you look at one day and go fuck you motherfucker but then two years later you look back and you look at the lesson you learned from the whole experience and you actually have to go back and hug that person and go hey man thank you for that time. It made me a better motherfucker today because of what you did.
Starting point is 00:56:50 It made me a better person. We're not going to agree with everything that happens along the way, Joe, right? But it's made us who the fuck we are today. That's an interesting thing because we grew up in a time where kids were just allowed to run around outside. Everybody ran around outside. That was just normal, right? When you were a little kid, you ran around outside. Nobody just runs around outside.
Starting point is 00:57:16 I remember the first time I saw a grown lady. She hit my cousin. We were both around the same age. I was probably six and she was five and this lady slipped on ice in front of her apartment building and she got up and my cousin just unfortunately happened to be standing right in front of her when she fell and she got up and she said don't you laugh at me and she smacked her in the face she wasn't laughing at her either just she smashed her in the face man like it was she smacked her hard and i was like oh my god i was i mean we
Starting point is 00:57:52 were both little little kids and watching some grown adult smash our cousin in the face we're like like you just gotta realize like hey you can hey, you can't, you know, you got to be polite. There's some fucking people that will smack you in the face, and she didn't even do anything wrong. There's some evil fuckers out there that'll hit little kids. That's some dark shit, man. Smacking little kids in the face. That is dark.
Starting point is 00:58:22 I swear to God, I ran into probably, when I first moved from Cuba to 88th Street, there was a dude on the block that would smack little kids. And I'm telling you right now, to my little daughter, there was words on the street that he would take you to his house and fuck you in the ass. Oh my goodness. That's outrageous. That is outrageous. This is the early 70s. That is outrageous. This is the early 70s.
Starting point is 00:58:50 This was the early 70s, which I turned into a joke later on. Because it would be like, bro, have you seen Joe Rogan lately? Nah, I haven't seen him in a week. Sticky Charlie got him. Sticky Charlie. What was his name? Mr. Martini. Mr. Martini? Mr. Martini got him.
Starting point is 00:59:04 Like, when you first moved to 88th Street, that's the first thing the kids would tell you. Like, I was five. Keep away from this guy? Don't fuck with Mr. Martini. Oh, Jesus. He's a monster in your neighborhood. Mr. Martini wore a black suit with a white shirt and black shoes. His wife would die.
Starting point is 00:59:19 And he owned a building on 88th Street in the middle. And he was angry. And he would sweep. And you know like when you were a kid and you stopped in front of somebody's house, he would always come out and go, Get the fuck out of here, you little fucking douchebags. Get the fuck... And I was Cuban.
Starting point is 00:59:35 I didn't understand the language. I didn't really understand what he was saying. I understood the anger. But I didn't understand the language. And he would come out with a broom, Get the fuck out of here. And one day I realized, I'm i'm like this wants to rock so while my other friends didn't want to with them i'm like we're gonna with this so all cubans have like water in
Starting point is 00:59:54 front of their house and it's something that your mother throws changing every day yeah it's like a good luck statue and i would steal the change and bring it downstairs and i would look at the poorer kids and i go come here for a second. You want a quarter? And they would go, yeah, we'll get a quarter. And I would take a quarter and throw it. Where Mr. Martini lived, he lived like in a basement area. He ran the whole bed.
Starting point is 01:00:15 He'd be right there. And he'd chase us. We'd go, Mr. Martini, suck my weenie. And he'd fucking chase us. And Doug, he'd chase us. Oh, my God. And if he caught you, and he fucking chased us. Jesus Christ. And Doug, he chased us. Oh, my God. And if he caught you, he would fucking hit you like 50 times. But we fucked him up.
Starting point is 01:00:31 We would fuck him up. Dog, I saw some shit the first day. Like, New Jersey to me was a completely, that was like Mars to most people. Like, most people listen to me and go, you grew up someplace that doesn't exist. I'll bring eight people to fill these chairs to tell you about the parents and the people and the situations. But the first day I went out in my hometown of North Bergen, I saw me and Joe Rogan fight. And even though I had Joe Rogan on his back, I saw Joe Rogan's father come down the stairs, pull me off Joe Rogan, smack me, punch me, kick me, throw me on the floor, and make his kids go in. That was my first experience ever in North Bergen, New Jersey. I saw Mr. Robson come downstairs.
Starting point is 01:01:19 He took Anthony off his son, threw him off, smacked him in the fucking face, Joe Rogan, at two and a half to fucking noon in 90 degree heat, punched him in the stomach and told him to go home, you little guinea fuck. Go home, you little guinea fuck. Say that now. They'll throw you in jail for two years. He told him, go home, you little guinea fuck. And Anthony looked at him crying a little bit.
Starting point is 01:01:42 He picked up his shirt. He went like this, like he took the thing off, and he goes, I'm calling my fucking father. You're fucking dead, motherfucker. Call your fucking guinea fucking greaseball father. God, I dare you. He's probably a greaseball just like you. And I'm sitting there going, I want to see how this plays out.
Starting point is 01:02:01 And next thing you know, two cop cars pull up, and it's one cop car that's unmarked, and it's another one that's marked. And it's a big fucking Italian-looking detective. Like, you know, the short, stumpy Italian? And he comes out of his car, he puts his fucking jacket on, it barely fits. But till this day, I remember the mortadels he had on his hand. And he goes, what the fuck's going on here, kids? And the little Italian kid hand. And he goes, what the fuck's going on here, kids? And the little Italian kid
Starting point is 01:02:25 comes over and he goes, Mr. Robson came down here and he fucking smacked me in the face. These are my witnesses. Tell them. Then he fucking hit me and I'm sitting there going, oh, this is going to get fucking good. And the next thing you know, the fucking cop, the detective tells the cop,
Starting point is 01:02:42 go look around, see if there's tickets. Go's tickets. Go spread tickets. And he goes, where does this guy live? And he goes, yeah. And he grabbed all the other kids and he goes, tell me what happened. And he goes, Anthony and him were fighting and he came down here and he fucking pulled them. And this time they know that the cops are there.
Starting point is 01:03:04 And Mr. Robson kind of opened his door to be kind of tough. Like, he's not coming up here. He's going to know I'm going to fucking knock him out, too. And the cop goes, okay, okay, okay. And he grabbed the kid and goes, you're okay, right? And he goes, yeah. And he goes, you just hit me in the face. And he fucking walked up the stairs, bro.
Starting point is 01:03:18 Took him five minutes. Got to the top thing. Guy opened the fucking door. Joe Rogan, this guy, put his hand in. Pulled him out. Fucking put him against the fucking thing on the second floor with everybody out. And just started punching him. Punching him. Punching him like fucking...
Starting point is 01:03:41 John Jones when he's got you down. He's hitting you with those shots to the head until the guy keeled over and he started kicking him with the fucking thing. Bam, bam, bam. And at the end he goes, don't you ever fucking hit my son again. Let's get out of here.
Starting point is 01:03:56 And that was how I became friends with the family because as soon as he came down, he goes, who's this kid? He goes, he's the spit kid. He's the only one that jumped in. He goes, you want to come over for dinner? And that was the beginning of my life when I got in that police car. Wow.
Starting point is 01:04:13 That's crazy. I did whatever the fuck I wanted. Look at this. Till today, this is fucking crazy. And you know me and you don't fuck around. What do you got over there? This is still. That's what happened in 1973.
Starting point is 01:04:26 And what's that today? That's a gold card. What does this card do? It does what it needed to do. It does whatever I need it to do. You know what I'm saying? You're a family member. Why?
Starting point is 01:04:38 Because of that fucking day. Because I'm the only guy that jumped in. I like how cops have things like that. Family member. You get a little secret card you can get from one of your buddies who's a cop. Show this. You ever get pulled over? Put this on your license plate.
Starting point is 01:04:53 Look at this little sneaky little thing. So now we're tight. I'm eating at the house. I'm eating fucking pasta with fresh mozzarella in the middle. I can open up the front door whenever I want. I call the mama. She makes cream puffs. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 01:05:07 So I'm tight with them. I'm the only Cuban in 1974 that's even walking in there. So now we're in the sixth grade, and we're playing kickball. McKinley had no fun. Remember two months ago, Ellen DeGeneres donated $50,000 to a grammar school? It was my grammar school in North Bergen, New Jersey About two months ago. Yeah, I'm DeGeneres donated 50,000 now when I went to that grammar school Those motherfuckers didn't have a gym Joe Rogan you shovel snow together be
Starting point is 01:05:38 Shoveled snow you shovel snow when it snowed out you shovel snow that was part of your physical education Yeah, and you did push-ups and sit-ups and fucking that. That's like Russian shit. Bro, and they had a fucking bar in the kitchen where you did pull-ups. No, no, they were brutal. Finally, they built a gym in the 8th grade. Yeah. But before that,
Starting point is 01:05:58 we played kickball outside in the fall. And one day, we were playing kickball. I'll never forget this. The guy's name was Mr. Tortora. That was the teacher's name. Was he a good guy? Yeah, he was a good little gym teacher. And we're out there and we're playing kickball.
Starting point is 01:06:12 And again, that little Italian kid, the one that invited me to his house and his father beat up the fucking dude, we're playing kickball and he's throwing the ball. And every time I swing and I miss, he's calling me Coco Caramoco. That means I'm a boogie face in Spanish because it rhymes with Coco, right?
Starting point is 01:06:30 And the teacher keeps going, Anthony, I told you a thousand times none of that spick shit's allowed here. This is the sixth grade, North Bergen, New Jersey. This is a school teacher. Mr. Totoro's like, hey, none of that spickaroo shit over here, right?
Starting point is 01:06:50 This is America, right? Really? Oh, bro, at that time, that was a big issue because a couple weeks before that, a guy named Totoro was a baseball coach, and he threw a kid off for speaking Spanish on the bus. He told him. He goes, no Spanish on the bus he told him he goes no spanish on the bus and the kid goes fuck you and he spoke spanish and he threw him off like 20 miles from the house became a big problem in my hometown they were gonna kill the fucking dude but i remember going
Starting point is 01:07:16 home my mom going he's talking the truth in the house you speak spanish this is america outside you speak american so my mom America. Outside you speak American. So my mom cut me off right there. Like I went home like ready to fucking be like a protester. And she was like, that don't happen here. We're Americans. You want to talk Spanish, talk it in the house. I think there's a real benefit to being able to speak more than one language.
Starting point is 01:07:41 Definitely is. Yeah. It's a complete different mindset. I'm happy I do it. I speak to my daughter in Spanish. If I tell my daughter, mercy, something, I re-ask her in Spanish. If I tell her something, I re-tell her in Spanish. Nice.
Starting point is 01:08:02 Yeah, they say that things like that, learning new languages in particular, opens up parts of your brain that if you're just a dummy like me that only speaks English, you can access different ways of looking at things. Well, it's very analytical. Let's say you wanted to be a lawyer. One of your pre-whatever would be a language. You'd also have a heavy math. To be a lawyer, you have to have a very heavy math prerecord. Yeah, a lot of history, you'd probably end up being a history major, but there'd be a lot of math, a lot of econ, a lot of analytics, because it forces your mind
Starting point is 01:08:39 to solve equations. So if you look at the prerequisites, whatever the fuck it is, what's the prerequisites to be an attorney? There's a lot of math involved. There's got to be language involved. There's got to be politics involved, like the American political systems, American history systems, all that shit.
Starting point is 01:09:03 But it's got to be heavy math. Once you get to law school, it's heavy reading. and but before that it's a lot of problem solving yeah that's the that's how you become a problem solver by fucking whatever yeah I agree with you whatever you just said well before I got locked up I was planning to be an attorney so I was a really history major major. Yeah, that was the fucking plan. Thank God for history podcasts. I love them. They're the best.
Starting point is 01:09:32 I was thinking of going back to school. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. There's no reason. Just listen and refresh and then go on and read about it. Well, there's books on tape, too, that you can listen to that are great, but Hardcore History and you ever listen to my are great, but Hardcore History. Hardcore is great. You ever listen to my boy Daniele Bolelli?
Starting point is 01:09:48 I'm a hardcore guy. Daniele Bolelli, History on Fire. His shit is fantastic. He was telling me about this road to Rome. I've never forgot this image where there was, I think, something like 150 miles of bodies that were put on stakes. He sent it to me. He just sent it to me a couple of days ago. 150 miles of human bodies that they stuck on these big poles and shoved them into the ground.
Starting point is 01:10:23 For a mile, like every 30 yards, they put a new person's body. Here it is. 125 miles with one body crucified every 30 yards or so for a total of about 6,000 people crucified on the road between Capua and Rome. What the fuck?
Starting point is 01:10:43 Now, what was the purpose? I would have to go back and listen to it again. I forgot. See, that's the shit I don't want to hear. Woo, that shit's intense. I want to start with, I'm going to start from zero. I'm going to start with the Mongolians and Genghis Khan. Listen, Wrath of the Khan, Dan Carlin, greatest podcast series in the world ever.
Starting point is 01:11:03 And then I want to move on to American history. Oh, he's got a ton of them. 101. I need American history 101 day one. We're going back to roots. Let's go from roots. Let's go to 1776. What happened all there?
Starting point is 01:11:19 I need all that refreshed. All that stuff needs to be refreshed. Dude, Carlin has got some phenomenal stuff on World War I. Let's cover both wars. Let's cover both wars. Let's cover the third war, Vietnam. And let's cover the fucking whatever, the conflict. All that shit, I was doing comedy.
Starting point is 01:11:39 So who watches the news? I don't know. Who the fuck was watching the news in 1991? Not me. I didn't watch TV again until 2003 or something like that. I didn't watch the fucking news and have a chance to be inclined politically or what the fuck was going on. I was just worried about doing stand-up. Right.
Starting point is 01:12:03 This silence brought to you by marijuana. Oh, I didn't know. No, no, no. I didn't know. I thought you was looking for something on whatever. Oh, I'm ready to fucking go. You know me, dog. I know you are.
Starting point is 01:12:11 We got a great fucking card this week. We can fucking break down. I know you broke it down with Brendan. I got to tell you, man, I'm leaning, and I love Dan Cormier. He's a fucking champion of champions. He took a fucking couple bombs from Anthony Johnson. Bombs from Anthony Johnson. But Jesus Christ, every time they put an obstacle in front of Stipe's way,
Starting point is 01:12:32 he figures out a way to take it down. Yeah, he's hell-bent on staying champion. He's a giant dude. Like, Stipe's a big guy. And I know that Daniel has beaten every single heavyweight he's fought. He's undefeated as a heavyweight, including throwing Josh Barnett around, who's just a beast.
Starting point is 01:12:52 But Stipe is the most accomplished heavyweight champion of all time. That's just a fact. He defended his title against the top contenders and did it successfully three times. Nobody else has been able to do that. Ortega, Holloway, Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 01:13:09 Both fights are Jesus Christ, man. What a fucking great fight. Stipe, DC fight is a fascinating fight, man. Fascinating fight. I'm looking forward to it. Thank you. He's a phenomenal wrestler, and Stipe is as good as it gets right now. Are you doing the show Friday night, G?
Starting point is 01:13:24 Yeah, me and Ian are doing the Mirage. Okay, beautiful. Yeah, it should be fun. Nice. Yeah. You ready for it? Yeah, man, I'm excited. I'm excited for this card.
Starting point is 01:13:35 It should be very interesting. What's going on with you and the running lately? You're really digging it? Yeah, I'm digging it, but I have a little bit of a tear in my meniscus. Are you thinking of, if you fix the meniscus of doing something with running like running what your buddy does those marathons oh no have you considered something like that not really man i'm not i don't i'm not into doing something that i know is hard to do and it's definitely not good for your body i just think you get beat up doing that shit how long does it long does it take your friend, I mean, as good as she is?
Starting point is 01:14:06 Cameron's a different kind of human. He needs that in some way. How long does it take him to recover from something like that? Well, that's an interesting thing. Good time for that question because he just ran a race today. He ran like a six-mile race, and he was saying that his legs are not fully recovered. He was saying in the post that his cardio was really good but you gotta figure you run for 24 hours.
Starting point is 01:14:28 I mean he ran for 24 hours just a month ago, right? Was it a month ago? Not even a month ago. Three weeks ago? Something like that? That shit takes time. And he's 50. When you're 50 years old it's not as easy to bounce back.
Starting point is 01:14:43 The recovery is very tough, man. Yeah, he's an animal. But he lives to push himself like that. I'm more inclined to try to preserve my body. I like pushing myself, but I'm just a chicken shit. I don't want to be breaking hips and knees and shit. Our brother just had shoulder surgery. Eddie Bravo.
Starting point is 01:15:04 Yeah, he just got the stitches out. This is his second surgery that he's had just this year. You know, he had knee surgery real recently, like a few months ago, right? Didn't he have his meniscus done a few months ago? This generation of jiu-jitsu guys is learning a lot, and they're learning what they're going to pass on to the next generation is that it's great to roll, and the leg locks are great, and all that is great. But there's another aspect to this, which is called yoga and keeping your muscles strong.
Starting point is 01:15:35 Yeah. And the conditioning has to be good. And you're, you know, you have to take care of yourself. There's also just wear and tear. Yeah. You have to take care of yourself. These guys didn't know. You didn't know. No. You didn't know. Well, it You have to wear and tear. Yeah. You have to take care of yourself. These guys didn't know. You didn't know.
Starting point is 01:15:45 No. You didn't know. Well, it took me a while to learn. But the reality of jiu-jitsu is it's a thing that as you get older, you have to be much more careful who you train with and how you train. You can't just go balls to the wall like you could when you were 27. You have to keep your shit together. And, you know, injuries are real. You can't just work through them. And, you know, injuries are real.
Starting point is 01:16:07 You can't just work through them. Like, that was a big fallacy. People would get hurt, and they would try to roll light. Nobody ever rolls light. They always say they're going to roll light, and then the guy almost gets you, and then you're trying to get him. Next thing you know, you're defending, and it's a fucking serious, heated-up roll session, which is great.
Starting point is 01:16:24 But then you're like, ah, like your neck's all fucked up. And you go, all right, next guy, I'm just going gonna lay on my back and work my half guard bullshit as soon as it starts getting hot and heavy you almost got caught in an arm bar then you try to pop up and then try to pass his guard then you get into it you know it's uh it's a thing that's too exciting you know and jujitsu uh and when i say like rolling hard i don't mean like When I say rolling hard, I don't mean like not even a real high-level match. No, no, no. Listen, me passing your guard and laying on you, that's a tough morning.
Starting point is 01:16:56 Even though I'm giving you love on top, Joe. Can you breathe? Yeah. Yeah, I'm good, Joe. I'm just not letting you get the underhook. I give tons of love, but I love it. I'm addicted to it. It's changed letting you get the underhook. I give tons of love. I love it. I'm addicted to it. It's changed who I am.
Starting point is 01:17:10 You know, I had to attack it from a different foundation. I was attacking it from looking at Jamie and going, I got to do what Jamie does and not realizing I got Jamie by 25 years and I can't do what Jamie does. So my game has to be completely different than Jamie's. Mondays when I come into class, it's more about the drilling and less about the rolling. And I'll do an hour conditioning class with Brett. We do everything. We do the ball, the things, the ropes. I do everything and I'll do that jujitsu class. But I'll do the the drills I'll roll once or twice and papa's
Starting point is 01:17:46 gotta go Thursday I go balls to the wall on the rolling which means three or four rolls that's awesome and then I try to take Friday off and Saturday I'll do Muay Thai and conditioning and I'm done for the week Joey Diaz getting fit you gotta do it I got this five year old
Starting point is 01:18:02 number two I watched your thing and I really do it. I go to fucking cryotherapy, and I put my head in there. I go to U.S. cryotherapy. I'm a Novathor guy, too. That bed is making me feel fucking phenomenal. What is it? I'm getting tremendous hard-ons.
Starting point is 01:18:16 What is it? The Novathor bed, the bed that you lay on, and it cleans out your cells and shit like that. What does it do? It does everything. Look it up. It's a fucking animal. You understand me?
Starting point is 01:18:26 Plus, I get in that freezer for three minutes and 30 seconds. I put Madonna on. Burn it up for your love. I went to Gay Pride. I forgot all about the gay. Look at this thing. Thinner, fitter, healthier, happier. What is it?
Starting point is 01:18:38 Tremendous. Dude, they're going to talk us into getting into a pod. Next thing you know, you're going to be locked into the matrix. So what is this treatment? No negative side effects. Clients are supplied with safety goggles and then relax into Novo Thor treatment pod for 8 to 15 minutes of whole body restorative light treatment. The treatment may be repeated two or more times a week. What is it doing?
Starting point is 01:19:10 It's not saying what it's done. You've got to instigate the fucking thing. You've got to look into it. What are you bombing me for? I'm going to tell you the wrong information. Tell me why I should get in your light box. It's a whole body delivery system of PBM therapy that has been designed to deliver optimal
Starting point is 01:19:28 wavelengths, power, what is that word? Densities, and dosages based on the published clinical research outcomes. Huh. I can't read from here. It works the whole body in just 6 to 15 minutes. The intended use of Novathor are to redevelop
Starting point is 01:19:44 muscles or restore motion to joints or for use as an adjunct therapy for obesity. That seems like it does a lot of shit. I don't know. Is that real? I'm trying to hang on. Is that real, Jamie? Do I look okay?
Starting point is 01:19:58 You look good. All right. You look sexy. You look like you're moving good. Like you're losing weight. Yeah. No, you have to do something. Yeah. All that training you're doing, if you're doing that much training, that's crazy.
Starting point is 01:20:08 That's really awesome. I really love it, though. That's beautiful. And I try to do one strength training at the house, on it style, with club bells. If you want to come here, man, I'll work you out. We'll work out together. You serious? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:19 I was thinking about calling you and coming early. Maybe you'd give me a kickboxing lesson or something. For sure. And you know what else we could do? We could do a circuit. A circuit training? Yeah, because a kickboxing lesson or something. For sure. And you know what else we could do? We could do like a circuit. A circuit training? Yeah, because I have that Echo Air Bike. You know that Echo Bike?
Starting point is 01:20:29 I've never done that. It's phenomenal. So we could do rows, the Echo Bike, and I got a Versa Climber. And I like to do those Tabata sequences. So it's like you go hard for 20 seconds, and then you rest for 10 seconds, and then you go hard for 20 seconds, and you rest for 10. And you do like eight rounds of those. It's fucking intense.
Starting point is 01:20:49 And then you jump on over to the row machine. The row machines, there's another one, a similar number. It's like 30 hard, 30 off, something like that. And then you go to the VersaClimber, and you plug in something. Did you turn 50 yet? Yeah, yeah, I'm 50. I'm almost 51. I'll be 51 in August.
Starting point is 01:21:04 In August. It's really interesting what I've learned and what I've read about 50. I saw a picture of Carroll O'Connor about a year ago when he was 46 years old when he was doing Archie Bunker. He was? 46.
Starting point is 01:21:21 Jesus. 46. Whoa, go to that. Give me a picture of Archie Buck. And I was like, I really. Is this when he stopped or when he started? I don't know. It was a picture of him at 46.
Starting point is 01:21:31 And I was like, there has to be a better way. Let me see that. I saw. Holy shit. You know, this is what America. That is crazy. Wanted you to look like at 46 and 47. And you were like, look at that, dude.
Starting point is 01:21:46 He looked like, well, maybe that was like in the later years. There's a funny thing, right? The lovable racist. He was like the last of like, he represented a real guy that might have had racist views that were kind of funny. And he was in some way endearing. Because he was, like, such a good actor. And he was such a good character.
Starting point is 01:22:13 And he was so well written. And his relationship with his wife and his kids and with Meathead. I mean, the whole thing was, it was a brilliant show. Like, such a well-crafted show. When Sammy Davis kissed him on the lips. When fucking, when he found the Puerto Rican's dude in the wallet. While the Puerto Rican guy comes over, they're talking. And he looks at his wife in front of the Puerto Rican.
Starting point is 01:22:40 And he goes, Alice, don't you stand there. Offer him something. And she goes, I don't know what he likes. And she goes, I don't know what he likes. And he goes, I don't know what Puerto Ricans drink. And he looks at him, the guy's smiling. And he looks at him like, I don't know what Puerto Ricans drink. He goes, I don't know. How about some pineapple juice?
Starting point is 01:22:57 You know what I'm saying? The guy looks at him. You get thrown off the air today. Yeah. But it wasn't hateful racism it was queen's racism well first of all pineapple juice is delicious and why is it racist that a dude from an island would want some pineapple juice i would think that would you'd be like culturally sensitive to like introduce that possibility.
Starting point is 01:23:26 If I said to you- Oh, that's something that you're- You have a tradition of drinking pineapple juice in your country. In today's society, if I said to you, listen, I'm leaving here. I'm going to Chinatown to get fireworks. If somebody heard me say it to you right now, tomorrow we'd get fucking- Yeah, we'd have a problem. I would have a problem. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:39 Well, everybody knows that 20 years ago right now, I'd be heading to Chinatown in New York City getting fucking a mat of fireworks, 144 bottle rockets, a couple Roman candles. You know what's the most stupid, man, is that the food is somehow racist. Like there's food that's racist food. Like if you talked about black people and also talked about delicious fried chicken or delicious orange soda or grape soda would be grape soda right not orange soda orange soda is white people yeah orange soda is a white people thing right white trash orange soda no is that i don't know not that i'm anti-orange soda but i'm saying like those foods like watermelon in particular if you talk about a black person and you talk about watermelon that's a racist term even though watermelon's delicious it's
Starting point is 01:24:29 fucking weird like what is what the hell could be wrong about watermelon if you don't like the taste of watermelon if it's a hot summer day and somebody busts open a cooler and gives you a slice of watermelon how fucking pumped are you? How could watermelon ever be negative? That don't make any sense to me. It makes zero sense. And the only way it makes sense that fried chicken could be negative to you is if you're a vegan or a vegetarian and you don't want to eat a chicken. That's the only way it makes sense that that would be a negative.
Starting point is 01:24:59 Because otherwise, like, fried chicken is fucking delicious. Who doesn't like fried chicken? If you eat meat, fried chicken is something. You smell it and you, oh, someone's really good at making it and they got a nice flaky layer on the outside. You bite into that juicy, perfectly cooked chicken. Lee's fried chicken in Tennessee. Jesus Joseph from Mary.
Starting point is 01:25:19 The spices. You get in the spices. In fucking Milan, Tennessee. A little Lee's fried chicken. Jesus Christ. There's places that know how to do some fried chicken. Oh my God. How could that be bad?
Starting point is 01:25:29 How could that ever be racist? That doesn't make any sense to me. I'm going to tell you what's racist. We got to let that go. I'm going to tell you a racist thought, but not really. Like Saturday, I went to the park with my daughter. I'm sitting there and I saw a Hasidic Jew on Sunday with the beanie and his wife with glasses.
Starting point is 01:25:45 I was in Sherman Oaks and he had a $10 bill sticking out of his pocket. And I wanted to work my fucking pickpocketing skills. I wanted to see if I could still pickpocket a motherfucker. I even had my daughter bumping into his leg and stuff. You can't pickpocket a Jew, Doug. You can't do it. You know, when I was a kid, that was my first fucking dream. To pickpocket a Jew?
Starting point is 01:26:04 I watched a movie with our boy in it and Michael Syrus. Who? The first pickpocket movie is called Harry in Your Pocket with our boy in your Flint. In like Flint, James Colburn. James Colburn was in a pickpocket movie? Oh, nobody knows about it. It's like the America's Greatest Secret. And they would work airports and shit like that.
Starting point is 01:26:26 Harry in your pocket. So I hunted down my mom. I used to hear them talk about this Cuban pickpocket guy in Cuba in the 50s and 40s. Oh, yeah, yeah, tremendous. What did you do with him? You did something with him, right? Oh, yeah, I did two things with him. I did American Gun with him, and I did Arliss with him.
Starting point is 01:26:45 Arliss is up. You can find Arliss. It's online. Somebody just posted it a while ago. I forgot about Arliss. That's one of those shows that I forgot about. But I watched him, and I asked this guy, how did he become a pickpocket? I bumped into him at a Cuban joint.
Starting point is 01:26:58 There was a rumor going around that he was a good pickpocket in Cuba. And he goes, you got to get a dummy and put bells on the pockets. a pickpocket in Cuba. And he goes, you got to get a dummy and put bells on the pockets. So I went, and I don't know how, I got a little dummy, and I put bells on. In fucking years, I tried to be a pickpocket, but I had big hands.
Starting point is 01:27:13 Yeah, you got to have those slender fingers. You got to have slender fingers. Slender piano player fingers. You put little bells on fucking pockets, and you bump into them and shit. I'm very light-footed. That I am. I was a good burglar because I could
Starting point is 01:27:26 tiptoe. You know what I'm saying? That's from my years of tiptoeing on the dummy. To try to take the wallet from the dummy. I could just never fucking pickpocket the dummy. It's great that you're doing so many different things though. It's really cool to hear. You're rolling. You're doing some Muay Thai. And the rolling has really
Starting point is 01:27:41 improved because at first you can't roll. I dropped the weight because I figured for every five pounds, it'd be a little bit more cardio. Plus, I got the Boss Rootin' Mouthpiece. I spoke to him yesterday again. You like that thing, huh? I really believe in it. I saw what it helped.
Starting point is 01:27:56 Do you use it while you're working out? I use it when I walk. You're walking. When I walk. I take a walk in the morning, 20, 30 minutes. Explain to people what it is. The Boss Rootin' and mouthpiece is on Amazon. It's on his webpage.
Starting point is 01:28:08 I saw it because he was on Joe talking about it. I was having such a struggle with my breathing. I was having such a struggle, but it was just common sense. Number one, I smoked cigarettes for 20 years. Number two, I smoked reefer for 40 years, but all those are just excuses. The number one thing was the weight. Every fucking... There it is. Some smart guy said...
Starting point is 01:28:32 What a handsome bastard. Look at him. Yeah, he's such a handsome motherfucker. Handsome motherfucker. He's a great guy, too. He's one of the best people I know. Some guy said to me that... Great guy. A great brown belt told me that whenever he rolls, he could feel the difference when he's 10 pounds heavy. Oh, yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 01:28:46 He goes, oh, Joey, whenever I go to my mother's and I come back, that first week is brutal. I go, really? And I go, so if I'm walking around at 309 trying to be fucking Eddie, it's not going to work. So I just started chopping on the weight. I went back to Weight Watchers. I walked in there at 310. I heard they have a bunch of different rules now, like what you can eat, what you can't eat. Let me tell you something, bro.
Starting point is 01:29:07 You can eat as many eggs as you want. I'm going to look you in the face and tell you something. I'm going to look you in the face and tell you something. Do it. Because you know you and I always have this conversation. If you're heavy and you don't go to Weight Watchers, it's because you're a fucking loser. Whoa. That's a strong pitch.
Starting point is 01:29:23 It's that easy. It's that easy. Because I'm an idiot. But you enjoy it. I'm a fucking pitch. It's that easy. It's that easy. Because I'm an idiot. But you enjoy it. I'm a fucking idiot. Here, Papa. Here, Papa. Come on.
Starting point is 01:29:32 What is that? That's my guide. Okay. That's my guide. Oh, so you put everything you eat into this app? Into the app. Oh, nice. Okay, it comes in there.
Starting point is 01:29:41 Let me show you what else I got. Lunch, dinner. Snacks. Snacks total. And then you count it out by points. Is that what they do? Points. They do it themselves.
Starting point is 01:29:50 And how many points do you get in a day? 39. Now, let's say, Joey, would you eat that? Give me that can of coffee. Right there. Give me that one. I'll pop up if you don't mind. Pink.
Starting point is 01:30:00 Okay. We don't know. So you scan that, and then it'll tell you how many. I don't think that has many calories in it. Does coffee, plain coffee, have calories? Not really. Maybe a couple. Maybe a couple, but not really.
Starting point is 01:30:14 It's when you get the fucking milkshake coffees for breakfast and the fucking flat white. Even a flat white don't kill you. All right, this isn't in there. It's not in there? But you go like this, boom, and then you got this, Joe Rogan. You ready? You press this over here, and you press this here, and you press this here, and they give you points for whatever you do.
Starting point is 01:30:33 Walk, circuit training. Then you have custom. So I press Brazilian jiu-jitsu. You go to an hour class. How much do you really fucking roll? Fifteen minutes. If you go to an hour class, you're doing technique, he teaches you how to do the
Starting point is 01:30:47 drill, and he tells you a joke, so you're pressing 15, done, and then you press the intensity where you breathe like an animal. I just bent seven points. You leave this in your phone, in your pocket, you put this in your pocket, and fucking guess what happens?
Starting point is 01:31:03 It counts the steps. When I went to Disneyland that day, I burned 31 fucking points. So it's all the eggs I could eat for breakfast. So for breakfast, I go to John's and I get a seeded roll. Even if I give myself four fucking points for the roll, five points for the roll, six points for the roll, I put two eggs in that motherfucker, which is 14 grams of protein. And I put a thin slice of Thuman's, Boy's Head American cheese, and some Frank's hot sauce on that motherfucker.
Starting point is 01:31:30 How are you going to talk to me? What do you want to talk to me about? So you essentially could eat anything you want as long as you know what the points are. You get a certain amount of points. Fish, I could outfish you for days. So I'll leave here and go to fucking Sushi Dan and I'll get the crunchy albacore, which is, I can't wait for Rogan to visit me. It's sliced albacore
Starting point is 01:31:49 covered with jalapenos, onion and garlic cloves. Is it possible, let me ask you this, is it possible that you could eat just all eggs all day and have zero points? Zero points. Really? Eggs all day. Scrambled eggs all day.
Starting point is 01:32:05 That sounds crazy. Fish all day. Seabass. If you could eat salmon and seabass all day. Chicken breast. No skin. No skin. All motherfucking day.
Starting point is 01:32:15 All day. Chicken breast. Not chicken cutlets like mom made with Italian breadcrumbs. No. No, no, no, no. That's fried. Grilled chicken on the breast with red crushed peppers and a baked potato. Five points for the bakedbs. No. No, no, no, no. That's fried. Grilled chicken on the breast with red crushed peppers and a baked potato. Five points
Starting point is 01:32:28 for the baked potato. So you want to tell me again how... Listen, it's not a fucking race. See, before, it's only healthy to lose like a pound, a pound and a half a week. Is that what it is? That's what it really is. Anything after that,
Starting point is 01:32:43 you're going into that loser show, where they lost all that weight at one shot. And then that's why all these diets and stuff that you have to do or something that you're going to do forever. I've always liked this. I lost a hundred pounds with this. Yeah. And then I gained 40 and now I lost another 30. That's awesome. And it hasn't been killing me. Like, I don't miss nothing. You know, when I learned, I didn't know this. I would go get an acai bowl. America thinks an acai bowl is great. Let me explain something to you.
Starting point is 01:33:14 Eating a banana and putting a banana in a blender is two different things. I did not know that. One day I was making one of those because I switched. I have on it protein, which I use, the vanilla or the chocolate, the Mexican chocolate. And then I have this other one that's a paleo type protein. It's coconut milk. And I use that one.
Starting point is 01:33:36 And one day I said, let me put a banana in this motherfucker just to see. And I'm like, damn, this is delicious. I'm on to something. I gained weight that week. I didn't know what it was. From the banana? When you blend a banana, it's eight points. What?
Starting point is 01:33:50 When you eat a banana, it's who gots. What? It's zero points? How's that for you? Because when you eat fruit and when you drink fruit, it's two different things. That's why all these fat people, when you see them going, I don't eat breakfast. I drink a smoothie. You're killing yourself.
Starting point is 01:34:05 You are killing yourself every time you puree fruit. Because when you eat fruit, the saliva in your mouth breaks the fruit down and the digestive, the sugar, a different way. When you bypass that enzyme in your mouth, that's when you get 300 pounds like Uncle Joey. So when you drink fruit, I don't care if they tell you, oh, it's frozen fruit, you lose some of the sugar. That's bullshit. Once you fucking
Starting point is 01:34:36 blend that fruit, you're dead. Because it goes right into your system. It goes right into your system. Yeah, you're not supposed to eat food any other way other than the way that comes when you eat it. You could go to that fucking little Mexican stand with the umbrellas. You ever see those guys?
Starting point is 01:34:53 The cartel delivery? Is that what that is? Yeah, that's where the cartel drops off their money. Shake them down. They got $300,000 under that. Guys over there cutting fruit with a machete. Go ahead. I dare you to go up there.
Starting point is 01:35:04 When you see a cartel umbrella, that's a cartel money. They got tons of money in those things. They just confuse people. They even got them across the street from one another. Whoa. That's Starbucks type shit. Don't you think they're just poor people that are trying to make some money? Not really.
Starting point is 01:35:18 You know how many apples you got to sell to fucking pay rent in this days and times? Nobody stands out there. Look at those Mexicans.icans don't even use SPF They're out there raw with no fucking umbrella out there. Yeah, they look darker than dark They get dark where you think you know, but you gotta pay me to stand out there all fucking day in this weather a lot You know they got like 200 a day 300 a day Yeah Not because they're cutting apples up because the guy comes from a poncho and takes what's underneath them and takes it straight to Mexico on
Starting point is 01:35:46 Thursdays and nobody sees nothing. Every time you eat that fruit, it's sprinkled with cocaine. Eat some of that fruit with that. Watch the energy. You get like that boxer, Roy Floyd. Can't they just be poor farmers? Because that's how nice people like you think. For me, I'm a criminal.
Starting point is 01:36:01 I see people for what it is. I see things for what it is. I'm trying to send Lee to a rehab because... Are you? I got a friend that's got a rehab. You go down there... Lee? Why are you trying to send Lee to a rehab? Because he can make money. There's a rehab. There's a bunch of rehabs in Florida you go to and they get
Starting point is 01:36:17 your insurance and they bang your insurance for $60 and then they give you a cut back at $30. I told Lee, let me send you down there to my buddies. Give me 10%. I get $3,000. You go down there, get acupuncture. They give you a cut back at 30. I totally, let me send you down there to my buddies, give me 10%, I get three grand. You go down there, get acupuncture, they give you a few massages, what do you give a fuck? The rehab business is...
Starting point is 01:36:37 Imagine who Lee Syatt would be in terms of his marijuana consumption. Imagine where he would be if it wasn't for you. Like there is, that guy, when you first started having him on your show, when you guys first started doing your show together. He had smoked pot maybe three times in college. A couple months in, he's done superhero doses of edibles.
Starting point is 01:37:00 A couple months in. I mean like almost. Little by little, little by little. Yeah, but when you would sneak them in on them, and you would take away a 250 and put in a 500 and rewrap it. I get this one. Look at him.
Starting point is 01:37:10 Look at him. The Joey Diaz co-star in the Church of What's Happening Now is completely asleep at the wheel. He's on the show, and his eyes are almost totally closed. He's barely a slit And he's just dazed Who's the guest? Who is that? It's Rayden Bazia
Starting point is 01:37:30 A kid that I told on this podcast Look at him He can't take it no more He's so high What is the name of this video, Jamie? Lee in Outer Space Lee Sia in Outer Space Look at him go He's gone Lee in outer space. The Lee Sia in outer space.
Starting point is 01:37:48 Look at him go. He's gone. I would get these. Okay. I would go in the afternoons and I would get a 180 and I would rip the cover off the 180. And I would take a 67, 60 milligram woman. I'd eat that one. It was like two in the afternoon.
Starting point is 01:38:03 They don't do nothing to me. I'd eat like a 60 and I'd take the 180 and put it in the 60 wrapper. Oh, no. And then I'd bring it to him, put it on the table and in front of him, I'd go, here, and I'd open it up for him
Starting point is 01:38:14 and he wouldn't see it. It was half opened already. Oh. And I would give him the 60. But it was in weight. Like last night, I gave him an expired one. It had a little bit of mold on it.
Starting point is 01:38:20 But it was in Wayne. Like last night I gave him an expired one. It had a little bit of mold on it. He's going to be a good comic. Oh, bro. He is going to be a good comic. Look at Eleanor. Look at Eleanor. Eleanor sat there for 15 years, shut her mouth, and watched.
Starting point is 01:38:42 There's a really special gift to that. Yeah. Whether you think Ellen was funny or not, whether you agree with her or not, I give her the balls. A lot of people don't like just sitting there and watching. There's a lot of people that do, though. You know, there's a lot of people that work
Starting point is 01:38:57 in and around comedy clubs that probably want to do it. They just don't know how to get started. You know, they just don't have it in them to get the ball rolling. It's hard. It's hard to try something new. You keep thinking about when's the right time to do it. Is it now? Maybe should I wait a week? You know what? I'm going to lose 10 pounds
Starting point is 01:39:14 and then I'm going to try it. And you get all these things in your head. How long did it take you? Seriously. Honest, honest, honest engine. Well, my birthday was August 11th and when I turned 21 was August 11th of 1988. So I got on stage August 27th. So from my birthday to when I got on stage was just a few days.
Starting point is 01:39:39 Was it nerves? Terrified. I was trying to chicken out. Jonathan Katz was the emcee. And I was maybe going to get up. It was one of those things where I signed up for the list. You know, you get, I think it was five minutes. And there's a bunch of people that are going to do five minutes.
Starting point is 01:39:56 And Jonathan Katz, who was already an established stand-up comedian, he's a really funny guy. And he was the host. And he's like, he came up to me. He said, let me check in a half an hour in to see if I can get you on. Because sometimes people wouldn't show up. And so a half an hour in, I'm thinking, I'm just going to chicken out. I'm just going to bail.
Starting point is 01:40:16 I'm just going to tell him, forget about it. And when I'm thinking this in my head, I walked up to him and he says, I got you in, Joe. So you'll be going up right here and you'll have five minutes. Good luck. And I said, alright, thanks man. Okay, so I was ready to pussy out dude. I was totally ready to pussy out. And I was so nervous.
Starting point is 01:40:36 The first time I went on stage, I was fucking terrified. I couldn't believe it. What was the name of the place? Stitches. Stitches Comedy Club. August 27, 1988. I was terrified dude. Terrified. Stitches Comedy Club. August 27, 1988. I was terrified, dude. Terrified. I couldn't believe.
Starting point is 01:40:49 I was scared. It didn't make any sense to me. I didn't think I was going to be scared. I thought maybe I'd be a little nervous. I'd never performed before. So this idea of doing it, I was like, well, I've taught taekwondo classes in front of people before. I can talk in front of people. And then I thought about the idea of doing stand-up in front of people. What the fuck
Starting point is 01:41:08 made this go down there? It took me... It's crazy. It took me a year to think about it. And then it snowed. And I couldn't go to work because you can't roof in Colorado. Right. So I rented a punchline.
Starting point is 01:41:24 Oh. Tom Hanks and Sally Fields? Angel Salazar, Damon Wayans. Yeah. A bunch of people in that movie. I watched Punchline. And that pissed me the fuck off. Like, that was it. I went on the Yellow Pages.
Starting point is 01:41:42 I found comedy clubs. I called them. And Comedy Works offered a Tuesday night open mic. How do I get on? You have to call in and they'll give you three minutes. Okay. So for two months I called in, nothing. And then one night they're like, Joe Diaz.
Starting point is 01:41:58 And I called them back that night. I'm sick. I got the flu. I was like, I'm not going down there. Wow. And then I was roofing. I'm roofing, I'm roofing, I'm sick. I got the flu. I was like, I'm not going down there. Wow. And then I was roofing. I'm roofing, I'm roofing, I'm roofing. I'm estimating jobs.
Starting point is 01:42:10 I'm going to different jobs and dropping off material. I had two crews working. And I went to one crew and they go, hey, man, we're stuck here on this job. Can you get us the morning break? And I go, yeah, I'll go over there. And I went over to this little diner right off the fucking 30 that i-70 is the i-70 i-25 which one the one in denver it was like an industrial area trucks everywhere i don't remember what the number that road is we were doing a road there and i but there was a place around the corner jamie that had the best green chili
Starting point is 01:42:44 you ever had in your fucking life. And when you poured them over fucking scrambled eggs, your dick would get fucking harder than fuck. With two tortillas. Are you kidding me? To eat up those fucking two. Huevos rancheros. I walk over there. I sit down.
Starting point is 01:43:00 And you know how there's always a paper? Like in front of you. You ever go to a diner or something? There's always a paper. Somebody read. Right. And I sit down. I give the waitress to your I'm sitting and I look over I went like this just out of you know you just go like that to the middle and when I open it said Do you want to be a stand-up comic? whoa And it was an article back on Roseanne became a stand-up comic, and now because of Denver, she had just blown up.
Starting point is 01:43:27 Like, Roseanne had just blown up. It was maybe March of 91. Roseanne had just blown up. Denver was a hotbed, Jack. Everybody was drinking the water. Everybody was wanting to see what Roseanne was doing, so it had a big thing about Roseanne, and it had all these open mic spots,
Starting point is 01:43:48 and it had classes that you could take, and there was a class in Boulder for $33. Three Sundays in a row at the University of Colorado, part of the continuing education. The guy that taught it, his name was Jeff Harms, and I went the first Sunday, did okay. Went the second Sunday, did okay. And the third Sunday I performed and on the way out, he took me inside and he goes, I don't know how serious you are about this, but you're onto something. If you want to do it, let me know. And I left
Starting point is 01:44:19 there going, I want to sell Coke. Fucking crack, stupid fucking jokes. I want to sell coke fucking crack stupid fucking jokes I want to crack fucking jokes if I want to do anything I'll be a pickpocket a fucking magician and fucking come up with birds and shit
Starting point is 01:44:35 I swear to god like I'm gonna are you fucking crazy I want to sell coke I don't want to fucking be a comedian and then about a month later
Starting point is 01:44:42 I saw an ad in the paper for Dorman for comedy clubs. And I called it up and they said, come up. And on the way there, I called Jeff. He gave me his number because he said, if you ever want to get on stage, just call me. I'll put you up somewhere. And I go, there's a job for a doorman at Whitsend. Do you think I could get it? And he goes, I'll call the guy right now you got it just drive there fill out the app and tell him you're friends with me and they made me a doorman slash
Starting point is 01:45:10 a sound guy wow and the bar back quit so i was the door guy sound guy and the bar back and after about six months i had two jobs i going home. I had a marriage that was just fucking, just like the ones we all talk about, when you cannot go home. It's not your home anymore. Right. I would basically leave at six, come home at five, take a shower, eat whatever fucking crap she cooked,
Starting point is 01:45:41 give the baby a kiss, and I'd get in my truck and go back to Westminster. It was a club away from the Comedy Works. It was in Westminster. But it didn't get the best people in the world. You know what I'm saying? You got toothless people in there and people who poach bears and shit like that. So I started there.
Starting point is 01:45:59 And then in the middle of all that, it took me two months to get a spot from Wendy. And then I went down there. Ed Nichols saw me, one of the original owners of the Comedy Store with Wendy, with the Comedy Works. Comedy Works, Denver. He was one of the original owners of Wendy. Ed Nichols saw me and told me to keep coming back. But I knew when I walked off that stage that life as I knew it has had ended.
Starting point is 01:46:26 How so? Whatever I thought life was at that point had gone out the window. Like, Saturday was fucked up for me because Saturday I was supposed to be somewhere this week, but I couldn't go. I had to go to my friend's mother's 80th birthday party. And why it was important, it was in Philly. It was away from Philly. She's in an old folks home because they're the second family that took me in when my mom died. Like they took me in at a crucial spot, Joe. Like you're throwing me out. I'm 17. And I got nowhere to go. I couldn't go
Starting point is 01:47:02 to my stepfather. So I had an aunt in New York that I could live with, and I had a godmother in Harlem. And I didn't want to live with both of them, Joe. Like, I was in a... And I just mentioned to a friend one day, we were out snorting coke and drinking, and I told him, I go, where I'm staying, they're going to throw me out of there, Dana.
Starting point is 01:47:22 And he wasn't even good friends with me. And about a week later, I saw him at school, and he goes, hey, man, I talked to my father. You can move in with us. That was whose birthday it was on Saturday. So when I got off the phone with him, I was thinking about how important they were to me. But I still remember being 17 and sitting on that hill
Starting point is 01:47:40 on 86th and Kennedy Boulevard, thinking about how I had nowhere to go, bro. Like, this was my only shot. Like, I had nowhere to go. Like, nowhere. There wasn't, like, a homeless channel. I didn't know where the fuck to go. I probably had $10 in my pocket,
Starting point is 01:47:58 and then the younger brother ran up the hill, and he goes, dog, they're waiting for you to come to eat the dinner. Come over there. I had never met the parents. How lucky am I. Come over there. I had never met the parents. How lucky am I, Joe Rogan? I had never met the parents. That's pretty lucky.
Starting point is 01:48:11 And I walked in, and they had like six kids, and it wasn't like what I was used to living. They had no air conditioner. The parents were blue-collar, and they took me in, and they made me a part of their home. Never asked me for rent. Wasn't the fucking best house in the block. But till this day, I'm tight with all the four brothers and sisters.
Starting point is 01:48:32 It's like we're all one big family. But think how fucking lucky. I'm not even talking about being thankful for the comedy bridge. Just the personal bridge that I went over. Like, I was a killer. At that point, I was a killer. At that point, I had lost all faith in humanity. Like, I was done.
Starting point is 01:48:52 Like, I wasn't a Catholic no more. I was just waiting to kill somebody. That's it. That's all I was waiting on. It's such a weird, like, I'm not even worried about the comedy bridge no more. It was the personal bridge where I grew the most, you know. I don't even know how we got in this conversation. This weed is killing me. It's good weed.
Starting point is 01:49:09 They're going to kill the good weed now, right? Is that what's happening? How does this work? No, no, no. I still got some guys. Yeah, I'm sure you do. I got some guys. But legally.
Starting point is 01:49:18 It'll still be available for medicinal people who have cards. So we got to get a card? Yeah, recreational. It's going to be dumbed down a little bit. Got to renew that card, son. I got it. I we gotta get a card. Yeah recreational. It's gonna be a renew that card son. I got it I got a renew that card. I don't want any or bullshit weed. I don't want any your fucking watered-down weed What are they gonna do? They got a water it down how much 18%? Something like that, but never fear, but here's the thing isn't that strong? Oh, Joey's here look
Starting point is 01:49:40 Look assholes never fear this we got a da one two., wow. What do you think you're dealing with here? Joey Bananas? We got state, federal. We got them coming from all over. You know what I'm saying? Damn. DEA. Fuck yeah.
Starting point is 01:49:54 Just in case. Just in case. Just in case we don't end up like fucking Tom Cruise in American Made. I was looking up the medicinal rules in Ohio recently. You can't grow your own there if you have a card. Yeah, they're sneaky with that shit, right? Yeah. Hopefully people eventually vote that out, but you had to get it in there first.
Starting point is 01:50:11 That's the only way it would have passed. They have everything wired up. But it's a victory because it's going to be very difficult to make it illegal now that it's legal. It's going to be very difficult to go backwards. So then you have to figure out, out like why do these companies have a monopoly on making it if it's legal why can't you make it yourself aren't tomatoes legal i can grow tomatoes can i you could even probably grow like do you need a tax stamp or something to grow tobacco how does that work maybe to sell it i don't know i'll check like if you wanted to grow your own
Starting point is 01:50:43 tobacco would you be able to do that? Like, if you said, I want to make my own fucking pipes and, you know, fill them with my own tobacco. I want to make my own cigars. Could you do that? Is that possible? For personal use? That's crazy. So if you could do that federally, and then they're saying you can't, in Ohio, you can't grow your own weed?
Starting point is 01:51:08 That's so stupid. that's so dumb i kind of let that that's your own weed do you even know what you're doing no you're like me i don't know no i don't i don't know dick about it i wouldn't do it but you should be able to if it's legal of course you should be able to grow it that's it's a fucking plant no nobody should have a monopoly where can you you not grow in Ohio if you have a card? Here's the worry. The worry is that you wouldn't charge taxes. You would keep the money. You wouldn't be accurate. You just do it with cash.
Starting point is 01:51:34 You do cash transactions. That's the worry. But that would be a tax worry. Is that what they're saying? You can grow as much as you want. You just can't sell it. Oh, okay. But they're not even allowed to grow their own for personal use when it comes to marijuana. So it's more restrictive than tobacco, which is hilarious. Silly fucks.
Starting point is 01:51:54 That's so dumb. Does that make any sense to you? I don't listen to that. We have some wacky laws that we let sneak through. Why would you let other people decide that different people in this group can't grow a plant that's legal now? Get the fuck out of here. That's dumb. That's a dumb rule.
Starting point is 01:52:13 They can't. No edibles over 100. No weed that's loose anymore. So if I come into your store and I go, what do you got? You can't open up the container and show me the button and let me smell it. They all have to be sealed and stuff. There's just a lot of silly rules. I don't know which ones they don't.
Starting point is 01:52:33 I'm very happy I found this bag of expired fucking Shiba Shoes from 2015. And they're still good. Listen, you know me. I make it work. Are they diminished in any way? No, no, no. A couple of them have a little bit of mold on them. You just take the mold off.
Starting point is 01:52:49 I put a little brown nail polish on it, and nobody knows nothing. You just eat it like nothing. Who gives a fuck? A little mold never killed nobody. Molds help people. Penicillin, right? Molds help people, yeah. Penicillin came from some mold, didn't it?
Starting point is 01:53:01 Something like that? It's so crazy how you see it with your kids. You see it with your kids. You see it with your kids. I took my kid to science camp. And when I came from Cuba, I had a lot of problems medically here when I came to this country. And one of them was the allergies.
Starting point is 01:53:18 The allergies were completely different than when I was used to a different country. They're fucking mind-boggling. So my allergy, if you ever hear me make that noise, you ever hear me do that? That's because I can't scratch the back of my throat like normal people. You know how normal people do that noise? So you all sealed up up there.
Starting point is 01:53:37 Yeah. The first week of camp, I saw my daughter do shit, and I felt so bad for her. She would try to scratch her nose, and I would see her get frustrated, Joe Rogan, just scratching and scratching and scratching and now it's gone.
Starting point is 01:53:53 Three weeks into summer camp, she don't scratch no more. How come? Because you build up your fucking immune system. It's so weird how you see it in front of you now. I saw it in front of me. Like, I went right to my wife, and I go, let me tell you something.
Starting point is 01:54:08 You better take her to the fucking doctor and get her fucking tonsils out, because that's the shit that started with me at that age. When I came from Cuba, right away, I was in the hospital on a weekly level, dog. Weekly. Between the tonsils and the fucking allergies and the asthma. And the asthma. But my mother didn't pay attention to the asthma. That's why I don't have it today.
Starting point is 01:54:29 Like, I might have bits and pieces of it, but I don't have it. Mercy's got it. My daughter's got it. They got to do the fucking inhaler and the whole thing. Asthma's fucking roughed. It's rough. That's rough. I've seen people have asthma attacks, and you can hear the wheezing.
Starting point is 01:54:45 You have no fucking idea, so I have to work it from a different angle. What can they do? Like, if someone doesn't have an inhaler, and they have an asthma attack, is there a strategy or a technique? My friend's mother died at a fucking party. Oh, no. Yeah, so you have to be very careful. From an asthma attack? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:55:02 Oh. Like us having a party right now. Oh. Eating, having a great time, careful. From an asthma attack? Yeah. Oh. Like us having a party right now. Oh. Eating, having a great time. I got an asthma attack. And the inhaler opens up your lungs and lets them breathe? Is that how it works? My wife has the machine.
Starting point is 01:55:16 What's the machine? We have a machine that blows some powder in it with a thing. And then there's a regular machine that my wife has. And then she has the inhaler. with a thing and then there's a regular machine that my wife has and then she has the inhaler. You know, my wife and her and the doctor have been working on different
Starting point is 01:55:30 things. She's healthy. I mean, the kid's healthy as fuck. She runs, she swims, jiu-jitsu, this, that, ballet, you know. It's four days a week we don't stop at that fucking house. You know, you see it. You know, people, I love these people. Let's meet at 3.30. You people. Let's meet at 3.30.
Starting point is 01:55:46 You tell your mother to meet at 3.30. 3.30 is when my day really starts. You know what I'm saying? I'm writing jokes at 8, not because I want to, because that's what I got. Yeah. That's what I got. That's what I got. Because then I got this, that, this, that.
Starting point is 01:55:59 And at 3 o'clock from Monday to fucking Friday, there's a different activity. Sometimes you do three at a time, bro. We go right from jujitsu right to the pool when she jumps in. You think we could do an hour of jujitsu and then go to a pool and swim for 45 minutes? Fuck you, Jack. Yeah. You got to see it.
Starting point is 01:56:17 It's unbelievable. People are like, nah, let's meet. Fuck you. I got ballet. I got a thousand fucking activities during the week. Kids are little energy machines. And if you don't burn that energy, then you deal with it from seven to nine when you're fucking trying to do your own shit and trying to get it together.
Starting point is 01:56:35 They're just constantly ready to go. They're ready to go. A couple weeks ago, she took us to the fucking zoo. Six hour walk around LA Zoo. I get home at four. She's like, what's the story? We're going to the park. I looked at my wife like, park. Took us to the fucking zoo. Six hour walk around LA Zoo. I get home at four. He's like, what's the story? We're going to the park? I looked at my wife like, park. Took her to the park. Two hours on the monkey
Starting point is 01:56:50 bars. And then another hour at the fucking yogurt place. Jumping up and down to music and Michael Jackson and fucking drawing fucking pictures. Really is crazy being a fucking dad. Especially because they don't know I kidnapped somebody. She has no idea.
Starting point is 01:57:07 She has no idea I'm a savage. So she thinks I'm on the up and up, like when we go to church and shit. She's like, Daddy, look at Jesus. Yeah. Well, nothing turns people more on the up and up than being a father. It really does. Yeah, it changes who you are. You're responsible for these people now.
Starting point is 01:57:24 And you have to think of things differently you have to make sure that you provide you have to make sure that they're taken care of you got to give them love it's like oh it's an intense world and you feel more vulnerable and it's just the whole the world around you opens up and you you also have more empathy. I have way more empathy for people. Because I'm becoming, you know, as you're raising children, you're seeing how they develop. And then you're considering how other people have been mistreated and how things have gone terribly wrong. They've been abused and beaten and fucked up and then left in terrible situations and you realize that so much of what happens with people with even terrible behavior comes from other terrible behavior like they didn't get a chance to stop the cycle and there are a lot of
Starting point is 01:58:20 people that we consider like really bad people, violent people, people that do terrible things, that we don't even realize that so many of them are a product of violence, like they're a product of someone doing it to them, like they've almost, they're trying to get back at the world for all the horrible shit that's been done to them and there was no one there to put a stop to it. There's no one there to save them, there's no one there to protect them and this is what we're seeing when we see fucked up people. We always just think of it as fucked up people. But that fucked up person is the product of some terrible things that have happened to them almost
Starting point is 01:58:55 universally. Almost every angry, fucked up person has come from a place where something has gone really wrong against them. You're not angry and fucked up if everything's awesome. If every day you're just getting ice cream, getting your dick sucked, and driving a Ferrari, and watching awesome movies. There's an anger that some people have, violent criminals in particular, that comes from someone doing that to them. I had that anger, Joe. I know you did. I had that anger, Joe. I know you did. I had that anger from 1979. You had that shit when I met you.
Starting point is 01:59:31 I had that anger, but no. You had that when I met you. I've seen it with people. Well, let me explain some to you. Where you wanted to attack people. The anger was very, first of all, I was always a happy kid, but not really, because I was always confused about the death of my father. So I'd always had a little certain unhappiness.
Starting point is 01:59:53 Yeah. But I always had the Catholic faith. I was really raised Catholic, and I always believed he was in heaven, and he was in that box when my mom did the things. So that eased the pain a little bit. Then my mother's death was just fucking horrifying. And that broke the central nervous system, belief system. That broke your belief in the world.
Starting point is 02:00:17 How can there be a God that takes a mother away from a child? When you're 16 and you wrap that around your head, there's not a good result. It's not going to be a good result. So how I lashed out was by robbing you. That was the only weapon I had in the world, was to rob you. Joe Rogan fucked with me,
Starting point is 02:00:38 this studio would get robbed and lit on fucking fire. And Joe knew it was me. And what the fuck was he going to do? I'm with Carmine. The fuck you going to do? You going to call the cops? It's Carmine who's going to answer the phone. Next time, don't fuck with me. You'll know next time not to fuck with me. When I tell you to give me
Starting point is 02:00:53 that gram of coke and I'll pay you on Friday, you'll fucking give it to me, alright? Because that's what it was. It was simple shit like that. Like, Joe, give me a hundred bucks. I'm broke. Joey, I don't have a hundred bucks. Okay. Now I robbed your fucking house. You should have given me a hundred100. I'm broke. Joey, I don't have $100. Okay. Now I robbed your fucking house. You should have given me $100.
Starting point is 02:01:10 You know, I was lashing out at the fucking world. Right. Number two, the other issue I had is I lost a child. I lost a child. I was not ready for that child at all. I loved that little girl with all my heart, but I was not ready for her at all. My intentions were good, but the result was not going to be, but I was not ready for her at all. My intentions were good, but the result was not going to be well. I was not ready.
Starting point is 02:01:29 And because I lost that child and I'm in no contact with that child, it makes me the better father that I am today. This is never going to happen to me again. Do you understand me? Yeah. I see that we see daughters of comics. We've seen daughters of comics and sons of comics,
Starting point is 02:01:50 and they're fucking lost. I don't want my daughter to be fucking lost in that stupidity and in that world. You have to be there, Joe. We have to be there. Yeah, you have to be there. I'm trying to be there as much as I can. You have to be there, Joe. We have to be there. Yeah, you have to be there. I'm trying to be there as much as I can. You have to be engaged. You have to be engaged.
Starting point is 02:02:10 Were your parents engaged as much as you're engaged? Not mine, but I didn't want them around. It was a different world. Yes. It was a different world, but my parents were very open-minded. What my parents gave to me that was really important was they're like the most non-judgmental non-racist non-homophobic people ever they don't judge about anything they were hippies you know when when my mom met my
Starting point is 02:02:33 stepdad he had crazy long hair and he had it like all all till i was like almost in high school was when he cut i was so happy when he cut it. I was like, people were like, back then, dudes grew their hair long. They were hippies, like legit hippies. But because of that, I was raised around like no racism, no homophobic. We had no homophobic thoughts in our house. That never came up. We lived in San Francisco from the time I was seven till I was 11. We lived on a serious gate and the one thing that did disturb me though once i was walking with my stepdad some dude
Starting point is 02:03:11 whistled at him some dude was like i knew that dudes were gay but there's a thing about when a dude is hitting on your straight stepdad and you're like, oh, my goodness, this is ridiculous. Like, guys are gross. It makes you realize, doesn't even really make you realize what it would like to be a chick in that same exact experience. See, I grew up completely different. Not in my home. Not in my home, but the surroundings. You know, when I would walk down the corner, Mr. O'tina would go, Spickaroo, where you going tonight? not in my home, but the surroundings.
Starting point is 02:03:46 You know, when I would walk down the corner, Mr. Otina would go, Spickaroo, where you going tonight? Spickaroo? You know. Jesus Christ. There was a kid that I still talk to on Facebook. His name was Louie Hernandez.
Starting point is 02:03:57 He's Dominican. Joe, he's Dominican. He's Dominican. They didn't give a fuck. They called him Louie the nigger. Constantly, Louie the nigger. The guys, he's Dominican. You think they gave a fuck? They didn't give a fuck. They called him Louie the Nigger. Constantly, Louie the Nigger. Guys, he's Dominican. You think they gave a fuck?
Starting point is 02:04:09 They didn't give a fuck. They didn't give a fuck. That's so funny. You know, they didn't give a fuck. People were just different then. It's a different world we're talking about, right? I remember there was a kid that is today gay. I still talk to him. He's my brother.
Starting point is 02:04:22 As a matter of fact, he's one of my brothers. I got to be honest with you. He lives in Miami. He's my brother. As a matter of fact, he's one of my brothers. I got to be honest with you. He lives in Miami. He's got HIV. I mean, listen, if you didn't know he was gay when he was 12, there's something wrong with you. But Mr. Otino used to call him, he was lighting the slippers. Look at Jimmy.
Starting point is 02:04:39 He's lighting the slippers. And you had to sit there and take it. It was whatever it should be okay for little Jimmy lighting the slippers everybody should just let him be I let him be he was my best friend he had a dog named Tramp that was the dirtiest dog ever like he lived outside
Starting point is 02:04:56 Tramp's skin like when you pet the fucking thing was the hardest it was like with those brushes you scrub like a metal brush like he lived outside tramp but he followed him everywhere he was beautiful i love tramp dogs no you're very lucky because i they're the best they're the best pets you know i grew up in an environment i'm standing with you and my man here we're on a corner we see a transgender person crossing the
Starting point is 02:05:23 street you're like look at the shape of this fucking guy. As simple as that is, that's a judgment. That's a judgment. But it was more of a sense of humor. You know, before we were looking at a picture of Archie Bunker, America understood it because they knew where he was coming from. He wasn't saying nothing malicious. It was a world where he came from. Right.
Starting point is 02:05:46 And the idea was that he was reluctantly open to occasionally take in new information and learn for sure. What's going on in America today? Every guy is sitting at home fucking looking out a window, peeking, waiting to fucking to get me toot. There's a thousand men at home waiting right now to get me fucking toot. Every day a new guy gets fucking called out for something like that. What's this going to be like in five years? Nobody's going to be able to even ask for a fucking piece. Right or wrong?
Starting point is 02:06:13 Nobody's going to go, hey, let me give you a little stab. Let me give you a little bacalooch. I think there's going to come a time, and I don't think it's going to be very long, within ten years, where we're going to be able to read each other's minds. I think we're going to be very long within 10 years where we're going to be able to read each other's minds i think we're going to be able to communicate in a different way and i think it's just going to be step one into some sort of a technological world where we all read each other's minds we can connect together in some almost like telepathic web way, the way you use, this is obviously just an idea.
Starting point is 02:06:46 But I think that if technology continues to give us closer and closer access to people, we're going to lose all boundaries between what a person is. And you're going to know everything about everyone's past. And everyone's going to know everything about yours. And it's going to be like some unlimited library of the mind. You can travel through anyone's mind and read anyone's thoughts. And as 100 years goes by and the technology gets better and 1,000 years go by, we're going to integrate. We're going to figure out a way, whether it's in our grandchildren's lifetimes or their grandchildren's lifetimes.
Starting point is 02:07:38 And cultural shifts and things that are happening in the news and people waking up to things that they think are horrible and people trying to correct the misdeeds of the past, all of that is us waking up in the middle of our culture and trying to figure out what's right. Figure out what's the healthy way to move forward. Balance this thing out. Slow down. What are we doing? We're waking up as grown adults trying to figure out our system and there's some injustices those injustices have to be corrected or at least recognized we have to understand what's the difference between normal male female interaction and what sexual harassment what when is it when someone doesn't want you to do it when does it become a crime you know and you don't want your daughter to ever experience that and i
Starting point is 02:08:09 don't want anybody that's a woman to experience real sexual harassment it's the worst fucking thing that could probably ever happen to you because you can't do anything physically about it other than rape or being beaten up or murdered it's a creepy place to be in i've had guys hit on me before you ever had a guy hit on you before? Were you like, hey, where is this going? I was like 13. I grabbed my dick. I didn't know what to do.
Starting point is 02:08:30 I ran out of the car, but it was my fault for getting in the fucking car. I also acknowledged it, and it never fucking happened again. And I would go to gay theaters when I was a kid. We thought it was a joke to go to a fucking porn theater on a Sunday. You ever go to a porno on a Sunday with six of your stupid friends and go to the bathroom,
Starting point is 02:08:48 and there's always a guy that gets next to you in the store when you go pee, and he looks at your dick and he smiles? Come on, guys. I bumped into a lot of creep. You've been out here. First of all, I'll tell you what bothers me about the current situation and how it went off, that this fucking place here has always been a fucking haven for sexual harassment. This fucking neighborhood down the corner here, Hollywood, is where sexual harassment
Starting point is 02:09:10 got invented. Did you ever see all the stuff about Fatty Arbuckle? I heard pieces about Fatty Arbuckle, but I don't need to know about Fatty. I know about a chick named Marilyn Monroe that they passed around until they killed her. I know about a guy named Liberace who used to suck your dick and fucking clean you out and then send you out into the fucking cold. And worse, he would make you get plastic surgery so you looked like him. Like you look like him.
Starting point is 02:09:35 That is one of the most intense things a person's ever made a person do. And let me tell you something. And let me tell you something else, too. That's why we're fucking the elephants in the room. The fucking where we hang out was known for a comedy fucking hell of a den of sucking dick, too, for a lot of years. The comedy store. A lot of dick sucking went down at the fucking comedy store. I don't know how long Harvey Weinstein's been around, but there's a song by the Eagles in 1980 that was released on the fucking long run.
Starting point is 02:10:03 Their last album. And it's called The King of Hollywood. On the way home, put it on, listen to it in the car. You're going to crash your car. Called The King of fucking Hollywood. And you're going to go, who the fuck were they talking about? After, I mean, it just breaks it down. It would be a shame to see all that talent go to waste.
Starting point is 02:10:25 You know, what are you willing to sacrifice? Wouldn't it really be just nice? Whoa. Oh, you got to look at this shit. Wow. Come sit down here beside me, honey. Let's have a little heart to heart. That's the fucking lyrics to this song.
Starting point is 02:10:39 Whoa. King of Hollywood, 1980. Nobody knew. Now look at me and tell me, darling, how badly do you want this part? Yeah, listen, you put men in positions of power and hiring women like that, that crazy position of when you're trying to cast something and you've got 100 people that want it so bad and you're some creepy dude. Some people actually think that this would change their life.
Starting point is 02:11:07 If I came to you right now and said, Joe Rogan, you're fucking delivering papers in Boston. You're going to have two shows. You're going to have a podcast. All you're going to do is lick my fucking balls. Oh, my goodness. One time. Just swallow them deep.
Starting point is 02:11:21 But I want you to do that thing at the end. Like dice? Yeah like dice Would you do it? How much? Think How much do I get And how long do I have to suck them for?
Starting point is 02:11:35 Because like It's gonna be over pretty quick This is a fucking career changer If I really Clark Gable may just do that right? That's who they're talking about Oh the king of Hollywood Yeah Was Clark Gable a just do that, right? That's who they're talking about. Oh, the King of Hollywood.
Starting point is 02:11:45 Yeah. Was Clark Gable a... Was he a gay man? It was based off of a book, apparently, all the stuff that was in there. But was he alleged to be a gay man? I have no idea. No, this is about straight talk. But there was also a book released in Hollywood in 1997 or 8 called You'll Never Work in This Town Again. Oh, so those lyrics were about Clark Gable.
Starting point is 02:12:09 Yeah. Oh, I'm sorry. I thought it was something else. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But then there was a book released in 1997 or 8 in this Hollywood called You'll Never Work in This Town Again. And it was about a chick who described all her sexual relationships with a bunch of people in town. And she described fucking Don Henley, the drummer from the Eagles, the guy that sings.
Starting point is 02:12:30 And he would get hookers to come up to the house, wouldn't even talk to them. Well. Line them up, turn around, don't even look at me. Don't even make fucking eye contact with me, do you understand me? Bend over. So he would sit on the couch with a robe on, with his dick out,
Starting point is 02:12:51 snorting coke, and they would all be in front of a fireplace bent over. Where'd you hear this? This was in his book. Wow. He would never work in this town again. Jesus Christ. And he would fucking, he'd never eat lunch in this town again oh you never eat lunch and he would take the thing do a line of coke get up and
Starting point is 02:13:11 walk up to one of them spread them putting them their ass a little bit of pussy pump it twice and then go I'll be back in five minutes and then he would go sit down put his feet up do another line and he would do that for eight hours just get up fuck one for five minutes and sit back down before he'd come so he would never crack a nut and he would just keep snorting to keep a heart on alive fucking fish so who the fuck knows listen you know it's like they all threw the harvey under the bus but these animals have been doing this since Jesus left Chicago. Since Jesus left Chicago.
Starting point is 02:13:48 Listen, when I read that article about the Cuban Superman that Brando was sleeping with, what they blatantly talked about in that article was exactly what we're seeing today only behind closed doors. That Cuba had become a haven for sex where you could go see a fucking goat get fucked. I mean, didn't had become a haven for sex, where you could go see a fucking goat get fucked.
Starting point is 02:14:09 I mean, didn't they pass a rule this week in Mexico that a girl could get fucked if she's 12 years old? You really need that rule. Really? That's the rule you need in this society. Is that really what just got passed? Something. That you could be 12 years old is the act of. And this was in Mexico?
Starting point is 02:14:22 In Mexico. It was the age of something. Can you look that up, Jamie? 12 years. 12 fucking years old. What do you call it? And this was in Mexico? In Mexico. It was the age of something. Can you look that up, Jamie? 12 years... 12 fucking years old. Age of consent in Mexico. Why is a woman 12 years old? That's insane.
Starting point is 02:14:31 That's insane. It's scary. It is real? Oh, Jesus. Can you fucking believe that? Oh, my God. Look at this. The federal law established
Starting point is 02:14:40 at the age of 12 as the minimum age of consent, while the age at which there are no restrictions for consensual sexual activities is 18. Sex with someone 12 to 18 is not illegal per se, but can still be open to prosecution under certain circumstances. You believe this? What does that mean? So it's age 12 is the age of minimum age of consent, but the age in which there are no restrictions for consensual sex is 18.
Starting point is 02:15:07 So the idea is that sex between someone who's 12 and 18, it's not illegal, but they might be able to lock you up if you do something super creepy. But that is nuts, man. Can you imagine if there was some person that just only went after 12-year-olds? Now, where is that? That's in the United States or Mexico? It's Mexico. So that's why people would fly down there. Actually, I typed in Mexico,
Starting point is 02:15:32 but this is an article on Wikipedia about aging consent in North America. And then it says federal law, so I'll find out. Wait a minute. That, what I just read, was about North America? How is that real? I just saw North America, too, and that's why I asked him. There's states where I... I'm sorry, not in North America. United States of America, just saw North America, too, and that's why I asked him. There's states where I... I'm sorry, not in North
Starting point is 02:15:45 America. United States of America, right? North America is Canada, too. That is a not possible thing. How is it... Is that really possible? That 12 could be the age of consent anywhere? What are you talking about? That's crazy. 18, right? That's the federal law of Mexico.
Starting point is 02:16:01 Mexico. Yeah. You scared the shit out of me, Jamie. No, the article was... You're a kid fucking here in America? No, yeah. Yes. The article is about North America, age of consent in North America. And there is states here where it's lower than 18. What?
Starting point is 02:16:16 Yeah. There's a couple, I believe it's 14. Dude, is that real? It might have changed it recently. Okay, so 12 are the ones... Texas is 17. The 12 are the ones. Texas is 17. The 12 are the ones that are in white, which is, that's in Mexico, right? Down here, yeah.
Starting point is 02:16:31 Okay, there are spots, and all the way up the coast, right? Yeah, but that's still Mexico down here. Yeah, that side, but that whole thing is 12 years old? Is the age of consent? The blue is all 16. Whew, that's a lot of states at 16. That's kind of crazy. That's a lot of fucking U.S. states at 16.
Starting point is 02:16:53 That's crazy. 14 to 18 in Central. Excuse me? What does it say? Central America. Oh, 14 to 18 in Central America. Interesting. That age of consent thing is bananas.
Starting point is 02:17:04 Go back to that little map again, please. That is weird to look at. I would have thought there would be way less of those. 16. Look how many 16s there are. And what are the darker ones? Can you scroll all the way down so we can see the whole scale? So 17
Starting point is 02:17:19 is that. And then wow. Texas is 17. Green is 18. So it's only like Florida, California. there's less greens and there are blues more the age of consent is 16 is this current is that possible this is not current it seems nuts alaska 16 too i assumed it was all 18. I thought Florida was like 8. You know, Florida could be like 7, 6 1⁄2. You never know down fucking that crazy place.
Starting point is 02:17:57 That is a fucking crazy place. That's where white people go to boogie. It's an interesting place. Didn't they have, like, pain? I just found out about it. There was a time you'd go down and just buy pills over the fucking counter or something. Go pain doctors, pain medication. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:18:13 Like, I just read this shit recently that that law got abolished or something. That's why so many people left Florida. There were people moving to Florida in droves just for those pain doctors. In droves. I didn't know about this shit. Yeah. Well, there's a great documentary that we've talked about many times called the Oxycontin Express. And they sort of documented that whole route from Ohio and Kentucky and all the way down through Georgia.
Starting point is 02:18:39 All the people that would go into Florida just to get pain pills. All you had to do was just get into Florida, and you'd get a doctor, and say you hurt your back, and they would have a pharmacy right next to the doctor's office, and all the pharmacy had is pain pills. So you'd go there, you'd tell the doctor you're hurt, the doctor says, great, here, here's some fucking serious, hardcore drugs that can kill you.
Starting point is 02:18:59 Don't take more of these or you'll die. They're super powerful opiates. But since I wrote it on this piece of paper, you can go buy it. So you go next door and you're buying the hardest of hardcore. You're buying hillbilly heroin. You're buying Oxycontin. You're going deep. Now, I've never done that shit.
Starting point is 02:19:18 I did morphine when I got my knee operated on. They gave me that little pump thing and you could press it and press it and press it and you want to get more morphine. I have no idea what Oxycontin feels like but that morphine felt wonderful i feel like cotton did not feel good what does it feel like i ate it one time and that was good enough for me some people must like it though right tiny tiny everybody likes different shit you know i like blow but i don't like meth. What did Oxy do for you? Why is it not good? I took a little tiny piece. I'm always a fan of something that might put me to sleep.
Starting point is 02:19:54 If you're like this could put you to sleep, you know what? I'll give it a fucking shot. I like sleeping. You try to go to sleep on Oxycontin? Yeah, I didn't know. I go with it. He goes, you might pass out. So he gave me a 16th.
Starting point is 02:20:06 There was nothing there. There was nothing there. I popped it, and I just felt like my blood pressure dropped. Like I couldn't even do anything. So I went to sleep, and I just knew never to take that shit again. There's certain shit I've taken that I just knew that I was never going to. That just wasn't going to work for me. Damn. You know, heroin has that has that effect too for a little while like it takes you somewhere and if you don't put the
Starting point is 02:20:32 brakes on and shit then you're gone on that thing I don't even know how to describe it but I don't like that feeling you know the cocaine feeling you like in the beginning then where it goes you don't like it and then it gets worse and worse and worse. But by that time, you're addicted to it. You know what I'm saying? Meth, I never understood that shit. Wanted to be up for four days. That just seems.
Starting point is 02:20:54 And you will be up for two fucking days. Thinking you're tired. Like, let me go lay down. And also, you're like, I can't sleep. I'm sweating. Also, I got a dose of sweat. So pills, I've always had. I like a little fucking sleeping pill or something,
Starting point is 02:21:08 but I can't because of this sleep apnea. Yeah, they're too dangerous, right? I could take the anxiety medication. That'll help me sometimes. I'll pop a few of those if I get stuck. They're like acid pan, but they're like 1.5. They don't do nothing to nobody. 0.5. They don't do dick to nobody. 0.5. They don't do
Starting point is 02:21:26 dick to dick. You don't find that weed lets you go to sleep? Weed at night don't do dick. You ever see me at night smoking weed? Not really. Because the initial effect was in the daytime. That's what you like? I like that morning high. Why do you like that morning high?
Starting point is 02:21:41 Because that's the one that gets the whole... That's the one that lets me email, text, tweet, think, think, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, all by 9 o'clock. Hmm. All by 9 o'clock. Get it out of the way. Yeah. So if I'm up at quarter to 6, put the coffee on, open up the computer, feed the cats, I
Starting point is 02:22:02 don't Pablo it. See, there's people who Pablo it. That's no bueno. Escobar it? Yeah. What's that? Pablo it. Open your eyes in bed, roll over and take a joint and smoke it.
Starting point is 02:22:14 That's no bueno. You got to let your body wake up. That's no bueno. That's the quickest way. Where's that fucking thingy at? Let me take a hit of that. I love that little blunt. That fucking Gino from Speedweed.
Starting point is 02:22:27 These are some of the best fucking. Jamie picked this one up. This is a different one. This is a. Gino. Jamie, where did you pick this up? Blunt. Place down the street.
Starting point is 02:22:33 What's it called? Just a. Well, I'll tell you which. Hollywood Blunts or something. I don't know. It's a Hollywood free roll. It's nothing. Hollywood's.
Starting point is 02:22:42 Medicated Blunt. Yeah, waking up and pulling the Pablo. People are funny with that medicated. Yeah, it's medicine, man. Okay. But if you wake up and give your body some chance to, like, I remember smoking cigarettes in the morning. You don't know what damage is to your body until you wake up in the morning, take six steps, sit down, and pull a cigarette out and light it.
Starting point is 02:23:11 There is no worse damage a human being can do to their body. Forget heroin. Forget eating a few avocados. Forget eating a Burger King Whopper. Get up at six in the morning. Give yourself three minutes and light a cigarette. Your body does not recover from that. And you don't know how bad it is until you stop doing it.
Starting point is 02:23:33 That's damage. So I look at it the same way with reefer. I let my body wake up a little bit. Let it air. Drink water. Let the body's heat. Drink a glass of water with ice, let my body's heat wake up, get the
Starting point is 02:23:48 stomach going, drink a little coffee, and then bang out some reefer. Ooh, lordy. It's a different day. And you like to work out in the morning too, right? I'm 55. I can't come to your house late o'clock at night. But I can't come. I'm not going to roll with you at 6 in the morning either.
Starting point is 02:24:04 Most heart attacks happen before lunchtime. Do they? Yeah. How come? I don't know. I'm not going to roll with you at 6 in the morning either. Most heart attacks happen before lunchtime. Do they? Yeah. How come? I don't know. I didn't write the book. Check it out. Most heart attacks happen before fucking 12 o'clock.
Starting point is 02:24:13 So you don't want to be, you don't want Joey Diaz in your side control at 6 in the morning either. I'm good at 9 to kickbox, 10 to kickbox, 11, 12 to jujitsu-ize. Yeah, you got to wake everything up. That's the whole deal. Heart attacks are more common in the morning, says Fox News. Five to six times more likely to occur in the morning hours between 1 and 5 a.m. And studies have shown that morning heart attacks tend to be more severe than those that happen later in the day.
Starting point is 02:24:43 Too long or too short of an interval can result in abnormal heart rhythms called arrhythmias. As a matter of fact, I had a step give mama stabbing in the mornings. You were worried about heart attacks? Yeah, because that was my morning. I love morning eating pussy in the morning. Just wake them up. Whoa. What is all this?
Starting point is 02:24:58 Just tap. When you kick mama with that leg in the morning, you know what I'm saying? You ever give your little wife a tap in the morning? She pops her head up? And they already know. They get up, they pee, they dry the monkey good. They come back naked. You eat that fucking monkey.
Starting point is 02:25:13 And then you start giving them a stabbing like a soldier. And that stabbing, dog, I would have to get up and start breathing heavy. And then I thought about that fucking gangster that was going to testify that time in court, and he bent over to tie his shoes, and he had a heart attack, and the guy ended up doing a fucking jail, and we got to talk about that too in a second, but we'll cover the heart attack. I take a baby aspirin before I go. I drink something from GNC to get me going a little bit in the mornings.
Starting point is 02:25:41 I still take my Onnit protein powder. I live by, but I do take a supplement before I go to the gym and I do drink something while I'm at the gym to calm me down a little bit. What do you drink? Something from GNC. I like GNC. I don't know names. You don't know names? I don't know names.
Starting point is 02:25:58 I just know performance levels. I always pop a Shroom Tech. Again, I don't pop two Shroom Techs. I pop one. And I started with a half a capsule because I was finding my heart was beating too much. You got to watch the ticker. Yeah. You got to watch the ticker. That's interesting. You know, listen, the God gives you a certain amount of ticks to your heart. I did Coke that, that, that fucked up the whole clock that, that, that fucked up the speedometer.
Starting point is 02:26:24 You got sand in your dial. Yeah. I got sand in the dials. I got fucked up the whole clock. That fucked up the speedometer. You got sand in your dials. Yeah, I got sand in the dials. I got fucked up the speedometer, so now I got to strengthen it a little bit. And that's what strengthens it. But there's a lot of shit you could do without thinking, like a marathon or something. I watch my fingers. No numbness. I get a finger up my ass as much as I could from the doctor.
Starting point is 02:26:43 I overuse insurance dollars. Like, I'm going Friday for a blood test. Why, Joey? Because I'm in the mood to. You got to switch out the blood every couple months. You know what I'm saying? You got to switch it out. Like Keith Richards, he's still alive because he switched it out.
Starting point is 02:26:56 Look at women don't die of heart attacks. Why? Because they bleed every month. What are you only assholes that don't take the blood? What's the matter with you today? You're like a fucking mult. I'm just here with you, buddy. Okay.
Starting point is 02:27:07 Relax. What are you saying? No, I'm enjoying your conversation. I don't know. You're just smoking so much weed, you're getting paranoid. No, I love it. You've taken five hits off that thing. You've just been sucking it down and getting deeper and deeper into the hole.
Starting point is 02:27:22 You're like, what's the matter? Nothing's the matter at all. It's the fourth. It's like, I suck. Look at this shit. I know it is. Great to see you. You look beautiful.
Starting point is 02:27:29 What's going on with you? Normal shit, you know. Doing a little stand-up. You weren't at the store last night? No. I'm coming tonight. You going down there tonight? Yeah, I got a spot tonight.
Starting point is 02:27:39 I don't know if I'm going down there. I've been taking a few days off after the Netflix thing. Yeah. Nice. I wanted to fall in love again with it. I wanted to... It's good to take time off things. It's really weird how you live and you learn
Starting point is 02:27:52 and you still fall for dumb shit. You know, the only person I should listen to when it comes to comedy is you. And I don't see you enough and I don't talk to you enough about it. I got to get on more planes with you. Because when I tried... I watched the John Mulaney special and I fell in love with you enough about it. I got to get on more planes with you. Because when I tried, I watched the John Mulaney special and I fell in love
Starting point is 02:28:07 with his joke writing and stuff like that. He's a very funny guy. Really nice guy too. Really nice guy. Fucking great fucking special, you know. But every once in a while, I'm sorry I'm saying this word, I always think I get the white moment. And I'm not a white comic. The reason why you like me and the people like me is
Starting point is 02:28:23 because you don't know what's going to come out of my mouth. When I become a writer, that's when I'm not a white comic. The reason why you like me and the people like me is because you don't know what's going to come out of my mouth. When I become a writer, that's when I'm not a comedian no more. When I go home and start writing stupid fucking jokes and you laugh at them, I'm not Joey Diaz no more. That's not what Joey Diaz is supposed to do. You know what I'm saying? No. That's not what I'm supposed to do. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:28:40 But this shit that's happening now scares the shit out of me. So now I got to go up there. You paid $25 to see me. I got to go up there and leave my soul up there. I take that shit seriously now, but I'm starting to take it a little bit too seriously. The shit you see now in what way? The people coming to the shows. People coming to the shows to see you.
Starting point is 02:28:59 And they want to see you do well. So I go up there with this planned material that I work on hard, that I believe in, that's bullshit. Because I'm a lot funnier when I go up there and I just fucking yell and scream and go off the cuff and go crazy and my eyeballs turn red. But no, I want to be John fucking Mulaney because he makes me fucking laugh and he's what in your mind the true comic is. Everybody's got their own way of doing it. No, and that's what I realized mind the true comic is yeah everybody's get their own way of doing it no and that's what i realize i'm going back to being a fucking lunatic i'm going back to midnight spots next week i'm going back to midnight spots i'm going back to cali cali cali going back to cali yo i'm going back to those paul mooney spots i know they're late but they're the
Starting point is 02:29:42 only ones that keep you if you're gonna play it play, listen, for me to be in uniform is the only way I could do it. That 10-15 following you, that ain't fun no more. We've got to be back there late like we used to and go on four hours of sleep for two or three weeks. Then you've got to walk me over and buy me a fucking pink dot sandwich like in the old days. Why don't you like the 10-15 spots? Because they put me in that position. I'm sick of fucking being in that fucking John Mulaney position. I'm not John Mulaney.
Starting point is 02:30:10 I'm a lunatic at midnight. You're there to see me because something's going to come out of my mouth that's going to be funny. There's nothing funny coming out of my fucking mouth. Listen, I love you, but this is crazy talk. What you do is your way of doing it it's great at 10
Starting point is 02:30:27 it's great at 8 you could do a 3 in the afternoon show it would be amazing they stare at me at the store sometimes they stare at me in the original room I'm going back to midnights
Starting point is 02:30:35 they don't I'm taking the Kenison spots again 3 nights a week because I can handle it that means I get home at 1 I'll stay up till 1.32 you're gonna do the late spots? yeah you know why man why? the reason why I do this early. That means I get home at 1. I'll stay up until 1.32. You're going to do the late spots?
Starting point is 02:30:45 Yeah. You know why, man? Why? The reason why I do this early shit is because I'm trying to be normal. I read that book. Your podcast, like I said, has been. Okay. Now, I like this.
Starting point is 02:30:54 Hold on a second. So you're going to close out the store and do like an hour-long set. No, no. 15. 12 to 12, 15. Oh, okay. I'm out of there. So you're not going to do like the Don Barris situation?
Starting point is 02:31:04 No, no, no, no. Okay. That's what I thought you were saying. No, no, no. I'm out of there. So you're not going to do like the Don Barra situation? No, no, no, no. That's what I thought you were saying. No, no, no, no. Listen, Joey does the least for the most. All right. I'm just saying. But you can if you're closing out the show, right? You could go long.
Starting point is 02:31:16 I don't want to close out the show one in the morning. I don't want to be out. I'm scared of going out at night. So it's not, I thought you were saying you wanted to do the Kinnison spot. That's the Kinnison spot, right? The midnight spot when he would do that midnight spot. Oh, I thought he was always you wanted to do the Kinnison spot. That's the Kinnison spot, right? The midnight spot, what he would do. That midnight spot. Oh, I thought he was always the last guy up.
Starting point is 02:31:28 I didn't know. I thought it was the, I mean, that's what they always say about Brody when he does the Kinnison spot in the main room. Oh, I don't know. I thought it was the midnight spot. Let's call it the Paul Mooney spot. Okay. Well, just, you want to do a late night spot.
Starting point is 02:31:39 Yeah. Yeah. I think that I would do a lot better. I don't have to go to other places. More degenerates would be out for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, degenerates are out. It's ready for me to, it's time for me to be, I'm a fucking degenerate lot better. I don't have to go to other places. More degenerates will be out for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Degenerates are out. It's time for me to be out.
Starting point is 02:31:48 I'm a fucking degenerate, though. I should say that. Fellow degenerate. Yeah, I'm a fucking degenerate. You'll be out at 1 o'clock in the morning. Nobody's saying 1. Did I say 1? I said 12.
Starting point is 02:31:55 Stop fucking saying fucking 1 in the morning. 12. 12 o'clock. You know you're getting up at 1, though. 12 o'clock. Let's be realistic. No, 12, 10. You might get up.
Starting point is 02:32:04 They're professionals at the store now. They're pretty professional. They're professionals. There's no more fucking people coming in and bumping you. Well, that still happens a little bit, but not too much. It's not too much. No one jumps on and does an hour and a half like the old days. I miss that 12 o'clock
Starting point is 02:32:18 thought of mine. The thought process at 12 for me in the old days was I swear to God, joe they've already heard everything yeah if they if i think they really want to hear these dumb three jokes in my pocket i got another thing coming and it taught me how to write really good what do you what has changed recently like the one of the things a lot of people have been saying, especially the Me Too movement,
Starting point is 02:32:51 is that people are more cautious about saying controversial jokes now. Do you feel that? Do you feel like energy in the air being different? Do you feel like people are more sensitive? I know you won't get mad at me. I feel the energy is different, but guess what, G? What? It don't apply to me. It don get mad at me. I feel the energy is different, but guess what, G? What? It don't apply to me.
Starting point is 02:33:09 It don't apply to me. It doesn't apply to me, and it's never going to apply to me. Okay? I understand me shooting you special on your network. You don't want me to use certain words. There's parts, and I get that. This is a business. Right.
Starting point is 02:33:25 This is a business, and I got miles to feed. But when I'm at the comedy store, when I'm at the improv, when I'm at the Laugh Factory, when I'm at Flappers, when I'm at the Ha Ha, when I'm at New York Gotham. You got to let it fly. I'm going to let it fly. You got to let it fly. Okay, and I'm sorry. No, no, no. This is just so you know.
Starting point is 02:33:41 You shouldn't be sorry. You're not supposed to be sorry. This is just so you know. You know what I put on yesterday? What'd you you put on that's what I put on the studio yesterday And this is it. This is it because it's time. We're not taking it no more I'm not taking it no more. I put on an album and again. I'm very sorry if I offend somebody I didn't name it this he did so take your fucking problem up with him name of the album is Bicentennial Nigga by
Starting point is 02:34:05 Richard Pryor. I put it on, I listened to it twice, and I did an edible and cried. I got the fucking I've got the Periscope listening to Richard. Okay? I got it. Okay? And
Starting point is 02:34:20 I listened to Lenny Bruce live from Carnegie Hall in the last couple weeks. I don't know when the last time you listened to that. Because we can't. Because of our... Guys like you and I can't. Definitely not Jamie. And definitely if you're under 30, you can't.
Starting point is 02:34:35 Because of the... How slow it is. How slow it is. Cultural references and how slow it is. But it's a lesson. I listen to that and I'm going home. Guess what I'm listening to tonight? What?
Starting point is 02:34:47 I'm staying in tonight to listen to the one when he meets, the wino meets Dracula. Oh, yeah. I think it's either, is it something I said or the nigga's crazy. Both of those albums are masterpieces. And that's how he wanted us to do it. Yeah. That was how we have to do it. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:35:04 He didn't give a fuck what the fuck was said. If a company wants to pay you, HBO or CBS and I, Joey, can we talk to you in the corner? We can't have that joke because we got to complain about that. I'm an adult. I can't sell.
Starting point is 02:35:20 You know, listen, Bill Hicks is dead and I don't feel too good myself. Okay? Alright, let's cut the fucking shit. Okay? We do this for profit at the end of the fucking day. We're feeding our families. All right? But there's also a way you do it.
Starting point is 02:35:34 And there's also a way I do it. So you're not going to compromise the way you do it for more profit. You know, when I watch the Richard Pryor thing, and I know he went to the Hollywood Bowl, and they were doing the thing for gays, and he went up there and went against the gays. I got it. Is it something I would do?
Starting point is 02:35:46 I don't know. I don't know. But it's who we're supposed to be in a way as a comedian. We're supposed to be the social column of society in a way. In some way. So now you want to take that away from me? You want to take the way I can't say I grew up on the word retarded. I grew up on the word faggot. I grew up on the word,
Starting point is 02:36:12 I grew up on a lot of words that people don't accept today. And I'm very sorry that you don't accept them. But it's too late for me to change my game right now. Yeah, I'll try my hardest. I try my hardest. I'm still going to say tranny from time to time. I know it offends. But when you're a comic, listen, man, the first seven minutes of any news is about what's going on
Starting point is 02:36:37 in the world. The next ten minutes is bad. I never talk about politics. Well, to top it off, I'm a felon. So I need to talk about politics. There's just things. I'm not going to talk about politics. Well, to top it off, I'm a felon. So I need to talk about politics. You know what I'm saying? There's just things. I'm not going to talk about kicking an abortion child. Remember for a long time every comic was, you know, I'll kick
Starting point is 02:36:53 an aborted fetus. That's not my style. I'm up there to talk. What are you talking about? Yeah, yeah. You go to comedy shows and there's always that one comic that wants to be shocking. I'm not here to be shocking. I'm here to tell you how I see it.
Starting point is 02:37:09 You want to hear how I see it? This is how I see it. If I offend you, I offend you. In the beginning of the show, I said something very offensive in today's terms. But in my reality, it was real. You want firecrackers? You buy them from a Chinese dude down in China. Why is that racist?
Starting point is 02:37:26 Because that's racist. But isn't it factual? How is it racist if it's factual? Chinese people are out of fireworks. They moved on to other things. There's weird ones that we all let fly. Like black dudes with big dicks. No one's complaining about that, right?
Starting point is 02:37:40 You ever hear that? You assume a black dude has a big dick. Does anybody complain? Probably. They're looking to now. That might be like maybe I'm the first one to get called out on it. That's racist to think that black dude has a big dick. Does anybody complains? Probably they're looking to now. That might be like maybe I'm the first one to get called out on it. That's racist to think that black dudes have big dicks.
Starting point is 02:37:52 Is it? If it's positive, is it like a positive attribute racist? Like if you said Asian people are better at math, people would say that's racist. How is it racist if they're really good at something? Like if they have more talent or skill or more accomplishments, how's that racist? Like isn't that racial if it's good? Right? Like Jews accept it.
Starting point is 02:38:21 If you tell Ari that more European Jews won Nobel science prizes, he's like, of course, we're smarter. Of course. Is it racist to talk about how many Jews are so fucking smart? Like, why is that? Why are they so goddamn smart? You ever think about how many German and European Jews were like fucking serious geniuses? It's a crazy trend.
Starting point is 02:38:37 Like, what happened over there? Callum was trying to explain it to me once about their values and their education and experiences and what led to this. Google the numbers of European Jews that have won Nobel science prizes. It's kind of like, it's eye-opening. You know how many Guineas from New Jersey? Zero. Zero Guineas from New Jersey winning science prizes. None of my relatives winning science projects. I tried looking this up a couple weeks ago.
Starting point is 02:39:01 It was hard to look it up. Oh, is it? Yeah. European Jews that have won the nobel science prize try that i don't know i don't even know what these numbers are i'm talking on my ass i know that it's i've definitely heard it discussed that there was a giant number what are you doing over there joey dinners make sure my wife doesn't text me and let me know what party I need to be at. Oh, 4th of July, baby.
Starting point is 02:39:27 This is our country's birthday. It's a time that we should cherish. I think we should play the national anthem. Maybe later. We got time. We got to play the national anthem real quick. They had it on this morning by my house. I loved it.
Starting point is 02:39:43 I fucking love it. So how was your experience doing your Netflix special? Everything was great. Netflix, I take my hats off them. Everything was great. It was my fuck up. It was my fuck up. I let it get into my head too much.
Starting point is 02:39:57 I listened to too many people, and I forgot the number one thing. Just be funny. That's it. Be yourself. Doesn't matter what other people say. How many shows did you film? Two. First one I think was a disaster.
Starting point is 02:40:12 The second one I redeemed myself a little bit. We'll put something together and we'll save something. So now I'm working really hard. Now I'm going back to my old roots how I want to do my stand up again. It's hard when you even only have two shows. Even only two shows is tough. No more bullshit.
Starting point is 02:40:28 No more, no more. Listen, this has nothing to do with me. I'm a stand-up comic. That's what I signed up for. What do I got left? I'm 55. What do I got left of doing stand-up? Another 10 years maybe?
Starting point is 02:40:43 I got to stop now? You're going to shut me down now. No, this is where we get started. This is where we get started. We got daughters. When do you think about it? Do you think about ever stopping doing stand-up? Because I do occasionally.
Starting point is 02:40:58 I think about it, and then I take a flight back with Dice from New York. And I look at Dice. Before I approach him, I sit there and I look at him from 10 feet away for 10 minutes and I think to myself, is this what I want to be doing at that age? And I think about what would we be doing? What would we be doing? You really want to be around your wife and your daughters every fucking weekend for every fucking week. You're already used to leaving one weekend at least a month. You're already used to it. There's going to be a casino.
Starting point is 02:41:32 Somebody's going to pay you once a month to leave the house for two days. But if you, would you be happy with your act if you're only going out once a month? Like, if you weren't going up and practicing, going out once a month could be awful. What? Don't you think? I'm saying you're still hosting the pizza place on Wednesday nights. What?
Starting point is 02:41:46 And you're still, let's pretend you moved to fucking Columbus, Ohio. Okay. Okay. Moved to Columbus, Ohio. Columbus, Ohio. And you work the funny bone once a year, right? And you do your little pizza open mic somewhere down the corner a couple nights a week. They look at you as the older guy.
Starting point is 02:42:05 They all came up looking at the comedy, watching you. You know, they listen to you. You know, when I started in comedy, I started, the guy's name was George McKelvey. And George McKelvey was a really special guy, Joe, because he had been on The Tonight Show with whatever, as a comic, as a stand-up. And that's the fucking epitome for one of us,
Starting point is 02:42:26 whether he became Richard Pryor or not. He was on, what's his name? Come on, fucking help me here. I have no idea. The Tonight Show. Johnny Carson? Johnny Carson. He did stand-up and Johnny put him on the couch.
Starting point is 02:42:38 You know, the real. I mean, George McElvey was the real deal. When George was 70, I'll never forget, he called me one night. He's like, hey, what are you doing, kid? I go, I'm sitting. He goesvey was the real deal. When George was 70, I'll never forget, he called me one night. He's like, hey, what are you doing, kid? I go, I'm sitting. He goes, drive to Colorado Springs and get on stage. Open up for me.
Starting point is 02:42:51 I go, I can't get on that stage because the famous manager that was at that club at the time wouldn't let you get on stage unless you took that comedy class for 35 bucks. Oh, that was a scam. A lot of guys did that. He goes, fuck her. I'll waive it. So he threw me on stage. And this old guy liked me.
Starting point is 02:43:10 That old guy had no career, basically. He did the local places, he owned two clubs, and he worked a couple clubs that hired him still. He died on the road or whatever. My point being that he helped me a lot as an old guy.
Starting point is 02:43:26 Like I looked at him, and at first, my first opinion of him was, look at this old loser. No, he wasn't an old loser. He had been doing it for 30 years. He committed to this. And no matter what his turnout was or whatever, he was still a comic. He died a comic. I talked to him maybe two years until he died,
Starting point is 02:43:43 and I lost contact with him well George Carlin died on the road yeah you know one of the greatest of all time I don't want to die
Starting point is 02:43:49 on the road and I know you don't want to die on the road no but I can't for years I thought
Starting point is 02:43:55 I wouldn't be doing this at 50 guess what I'm 55 and I'm starting to fall but you're not just doing it
Starting point is 02:44:01 this is what's important you're still letting it swing you're still having fun and doing a lot of crazy shit that gets you in a lot of it. This is what's important. You're still letting it swing. You're still having fun and doing a lot of crazy shit that gets you in a lot of trouble today. This is what I brought up when we were talking about the, you know, air quotes, Me Too era. People are going after people today for good or for bad. And to still have a wild, controversial act in this politically correct environment. Hold on one second.
Starting point is 02:44:23 What are we going after me two people for? For me taking you in the back, grabbing your titties, grabbing your pussy, or for you sucking my dick for a movie role, or for something like that. All those things really don't exist in my life. Right. I have a wife and I have a child. They don't exist in my life. If you want to come at me for sucking my dick in 2002, we were both doing blow. Go ahead, be my guest.
Starting point is 02:44:46 Be my guest. But I want to see footage. I can't be I'm Z, I'm Zari and take it. You know what I'm saying? There's a lot of people out there that are going to get me too. Look at this other guy. For years he was known as a heroin addict. Never got a clue of sexual misconduct.
Starting point is 02:45:01 And some chick said he molested her when he was 11 years old. And now he's like, you need that. You need that. And the chick's on drugs. She's doing a press conference while she's on drugs. What's his name, brother? The guy that was in heat, that De Niro, put him in a rehab himself, and then he married Heidi Fleiss for a while.
Starting point is 02:45:19 Who was with Heidi Fleiss? Tom. Tom, yeah. That guy's been a junkie for 2,000 years. All of a sudden. Why can't I remember his last name? Sizemore. Sizemore.
Starting point is 02:45:28 All of a sudden. He's a beast. Some girl comes up when she's 26 twitching. Yeah, he molested me on the movie set when I was 11. That's great and dandy, dog. But you can't ruin somebody's life now. But what do you think is happening? This is my question.
Starting point is 02:45:42 Why are people accepting these situations like the Chris Hardwick situation? Or why is everybody instantly thinking that the guy's guilty, no one giving him a chance to— The benefit of the doubt. No court. No justice court. There's no nothing. And in some cases, like the worst case was Garrison Keillor. Garrison Keillor is the host of the Lake Wobegon Chronicles, like this radio show on PBS, I think it is.
Starting point is 02:46:09 Is that what it is? He apparently hugged a woman and his hand went down her back. This is the depiction. And he apologized to her and he sent her an email. She said, don't worry about it. It's no big deal. It was nothing. And then they continued, I believe believe to correspond and we're friends again and then this all the stuff started happening with
Starting point is 02:46:31 al franken and then he had this complaint brought up by this woman she reintroduced it and said that a long time ago he put his hand on my back and they canceled his show they took his name off of it and they did it like really quickly and it's one of those things where you just go okay really like the guy in one moment in time touches someone's back i don't know if it was creepy or not let's assume it was a terrible error and it was creepy i don't think it was i don't know I'm not saying I know But that's it just touching someone's back and you that is a hysterical reaction. That is hysteria It's almost the definition of hysteria You're not talking about an evil person talking about a person who touched someone's back like we got to be real careful
Starting point is 02:47:18 With what you destroy a person's whole life with so on the one side you have the worst case scenario which is like a bill cosby who's drugging people and raping people it's the worst case scenario for these powerful elite type people that are getting these women into their web and pretend to help them right he's another one which they were all in on it and everybody knew about it for years they knew about it was written into his contract. It was sexual harassment clauses were in his contract, right? Wasn't that? It was known for years. Let's make sure we're correct on that.
Starting point is 02:47:52 Let's indict. Don't tell me it bothers me about Harvey. Let me tell you what bothers me about Harvey. What? We got to indict everybody. There's a lot of people that have to be indicted, and this is one of the things that I'm getting at. That's my feeling. My feeling right now is this should be a RICO act.
Starting point is 02:48:06 Wow. This is a RICO act. Agents, managers, Oprah, because everybody knew. Everybody knew. Okay, but here's the question. How much did they know? Listen, everybody knew in 2005.
Starting point is 02:48:20 Right. Everybody knew Joe Diaz was a coke fiend. That's a different thing though, man. It's the same. Let's pretend. The same thing. Joe Diaz was a coke fiend That's a different thing though man It's the same Let's pretend The same thing Okay but let's Joe Diaz is a coke fiend
Starting point is 02:48:29 It's 2007 Joe Diaz comes to a party At your house There's two cell phones missing Okay let me Let me say this though Do you think that it's possible That his behavior was shielded
Starting point is 02:48:43 From some of the people That he interacted with Like Hillary Clinton or Oprah or Bill Clinton or whoever that was that they some high-profile people that he interacted with is it possible they didn't know is it possible they just thought he was a pussy hound no or do you think they all knew he was a pussy hound and they heard little chitter-chatter, but it's okay. It's Joe. It's okay. They would just let him.
Starting point is 02:49:07 It's Joe. That's number one. That's crazy. Number two, Jamie, you ready for this? Oh, Jesus. Okay, I see Joe, whatever. Not now, but 25 years ago. I see Joe, and the first thing I had to go was,
Starting point is 02:49:21 Joe, before you leave, don't forget I got to tell you a story. What was that story going to be about? About Benson Henderson's joke? About a joke that somebody said at the store? No, about a place I went to. And some chick took me in the back and sucked my dick under the car, and then she stuck a finger in my ass. That's what we talked about so if that's what we talked about you're gonna look me in the face like a man that you are and the men
Starting point is 02:49:50 that you've been around and tell me harvey weinstein never turned to brad or his other bodies and listen remind me to tell you a story about that dirty fucking animal. For sure. Okay, then. For sure. That's actually been admitted, I think. They've had conversations about that. Oh, my God. If you don't think the wig, Ben Affleck, and the other guy. I'm not offending nobody.
Starting point is 02:50:15 I'm just talking about boys. We're boys, right? You and I are boys. You won't say to Jamie. You'll say to me. You watch Blind Date. No, I've never watched it. There's a movie, Blind Date.
Starting point is 02:50:27 Some firecrackers are going off in the room. There's a movie named Blind Date with Bruce Willis. Oh, I remember that movie. And Kim Basinger, hilarious. Kim Basinger steals the show when she walks in the Japanese lady. She's like, you know, you're entitled to 50% of your husband's assets in California. And the Chinese woman kept saying, me no speak English, me no speak English.
Starting point is 02:50:48 And I was like, you don't even tell, 50%? And she opens up the door, 50%, 50%. That movie's a great movie, but there's a scene in the opening of that movie, both of those actors are around, where the guy comes up to him and he goes, you're not going to believe what happened last night. And Bruce Willis goes, here we go, one of these fucking sex stories again.
Starting point is 02:51:09 And he goes, so I'm at Spago's, I have a dinner, I walk out and some lady pulls up in a limo, and I say, I've never been in a limo. And she goes, well, get in. And we're riding down Sunset, our time's in the summer. And next thing you know, she's sucking my dick. She's got leotards on. I'm eating her ass.
Starting point is 02:51:27 And he's telling the story, and Bruce Willis looks at him and he goes, no, no, why does this always happen to you? This is some other bullshit. He goes, da-da-da-da-da. And he goes in his pocket and he starts whipping out Polaroids. I've always known one of those guys in my life. Of course. We've all known those guys in my life. Of course. We've all known one guy in my life.
Starting point is 02:51:48 But there's a difference between that guy and what Harvey Weinstein has been accused of. Yeah, I know that. But I also believe that Harvey Weinstein was telling people. He probably was. Because, listen, for everybody who told him. Was he telling him that he was holding people down? What did he usually tell him? Was he telling him he was raping people?
Starting point is 02:52:05 She's a piece of ass. No, not at all. Do you think that he did? Well, I don't even want to ask you. She's a piece of ass. She's a piece of ass. You've got to see her suck a dick. Right.
Starting point is 02:52:13 She'll do anything. She's an animal. That's what we do as men. We brag a dough show. So do you think that there was like a community of that where actors and actresses? I think he had four or five guys that knew what he was doing i want you to remember being 27 and having four year boys that would come back every monday with a different story to karate school yeah i ate her ass i fucked her on fire whatever
Starting point is 02:52:42 the fuck it is that you do he He told somebody. Somebody knew about all these stories. Some agents knew. Because for the hundred of them that said no and whatever, there had to be 25. He was playing the percentages, Joe. Well, definitely. A lot of people said yes. They blamed that one girl. That one girl that did rounders.
Starting point is 02:53:04 They accused her. Yeah, I heard that. That one girl that did Rounders. They accused her. Yeah, I heard that. That played Matt Damon's girlfriend. She went from being an extra in fucking Donnie Brasco to being a guest star opposite fucking... Yeah, if you watch Donnie Brasco, she's what's-his-name, Sonny Black's girlfriend. You know how many lines she has in that movie?
Starting point is 02:53:25 Zero. Zero. Zero. Smart move. And then a year later, she's a fucking guest opposite. So there's a bunch of them that said yes. But do you fault the girl for doing that? If a girl decides to fuck Harvey Weinstein on her own free will. Joe Rogan, we come here with a dream.
Starting point is 02:53:45 And there's two ways to enhance that dream. There's either I always knew that I wasn't good looking, I always knew I was fat, and I always knew I was R-rated and hard to listen to. But I always knew that I was funny, so I always worked on being funny. I didn't think somebody was going to let me suck their dick or eat their pussy to be a star.
Starting point is 02:54:06 So that was never in my mind. But think about people who, how many people have you met that would sell their soul in this town? How many people have come and gone in front of you? The reason why our friendship is still intact is because you know I'm a hard worker. You know Ari's a hard worker. You respect hard work.
Starting point is 02:54:23 How many times have you pulled me aside and said, look at this fucking clown? And you're not trying to be judgmental. You just know that he's pulling the wool over somebody's eyes. We know who's talking the talk and we know who's walking the walk. We see it on stage. We hear about it. We don't need Twitter or Facebook. We hear about it.
Starting point is 02:54:41 We get to that club. The club owner will tell you, Joe, Joey was here two weeks ago. He was falling asleep on stage. You know, you hear shit. Right. So it's the same thing. You agree? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:54:55 No, I think so. I think one of the things that stand-up is good for is that it's an exercise you're doing while you're living your life. And the better your stand-up gets, it's usually a better indication that you're thinking better. Like your life's more in order. You're more tuned in. You know, you're doing stuff that's hitting harder because you've got better points. You know how to edit it better. And usually you can use that.
Starting point is 02:55:23 I think it's like, remember that movie Mo' Better Blues think it's like remember see remember that movie mo betta blues denzel washington i love that movie one of the things i loved about that movie i got inspired to work on my act after that movie i was like think about how much musicians practice he was just always practicing and these girls these hot girls would want to fuck and you're like no no right now i gotta practice i gotta practice i was like damn the discipline crazy discipline that that man has to play that trumpet and practice it over and over again. And it made me really think, like, as a comic, we don't work like that.
Starting point is 02:55:52 We don't have to rehearse all day. You know, we don't really rehearse at all. But musicians, like a really good musician, I mean, they're always working. They're always trying and training and working on their craft. And we do it on stage in front of people probably more than a lot of musicians do unless they're constantly regularly touring. But we don't have that kind of work ethic attached to what we do.
Starting point is 02:56:14 If you want to play a phenomenal trumpet, those guys, their breath control and the way they can blow those horns, man, they practice all the time. They put in hours and hours working on that. And I was thinking about it, like that's a different kind of craft. It's a different kind of craft, the ability to play a musical instrument. The thing about stand-up that becomes a problem sometimes is that it's kind of, you can kind of pull it off. Like you could do it really well, or you can kind of pull it off.
Starting point is 02:56:41 And to kind of pull it off, you don't need a whole lot of effort you just need a few good subjects and a few good ways of expressing it but to get that where you can kind of pull it off and turn it into a bit that just smashes a bit that you put it in you can't wait to get to that punch line because you know it's going to be a nuclear bomb that's where the real work comes in and i think for a lot us, it's the difference between how much energy you put towards anything, whether it's your standup comedy or painting or whatever the fuck you do, how much energy you put towards your writing, how much energy you put towards thinking about it. The more you can do, the better it's going to be. And that's a fundamental thing that nobody ever tells you. People tell you you should write, but it's not just that you should write.
Starting point is 02:57:21 You should also listen to your shit. You should also perform. But the whole key to it all is just applying different kinds of focus towards your act. And if you look at a movie like Moe Betta Blues, he's doing that. He's playing that fucking trumpet. And you realize this guy is lost in the act of practicing this beautiful musical instrument. And this is his craft. And he takes pride in being excellent at his craft he could just hang around all day and still probably blow an awesome tune at night but no he fucking practices and i remember thinking about that going damn that's probably something that's missing from
Starting point is 02:57:54 the lives of most stand-ups and i should probably try to think about that more with my own life i love i love the writing and I love the performing. I hate the listening. Yeah, that's a hard part. The listening is very rough for me. And I listen, I force myself, even before the special, I force myself to listen a lot. And it made me too fucking overcritical. You know, it got me too over fucking critical.
Starting point is 02:58:22 A week before I taped, I also went to places that I didn't put my name on the gazebo just to see how my jokes were doing in front of regular people and that fucked with my head a little bit i made a lot of couple little mistakes in training camp but that's what training camps were for to learn you know yes no i agree listen i've been doing this for 27 years i love doing. I get better every fucking year. My breathing, I get something better going up on stage, your confidence levels.
Starting point is 02:58:54 And, dog, it's 27 fucking years. You're going to be doing it 30 this year. Next month is going to be 30 fucking years. Did you ever see yourself doing this for 30 years? I still remember walking into the main room, and Mitzi was in her booth, and Paul was on stage slicing that room apart. And she called me over, and she goes, that's what happens when you've been doing comedy for 20 years. At that time, I was like, damn, I've been doing comedy for 11. I still got another nine. And now I'm at 27.
Starting point is 02:59:34 Crazy. And it's like you watch people like John Jock, right, who will fuck you up effortlessly, without even breathing heavy. John Jock, there you'll be in. You'll get that fucking hill. You think you got him in the fucking guillotine. Next thing you know, you're on your back looking up with your arm in a fucking... And that's what kind of we're doing right now.
Starting point is 02:59:58 I feel myself, when I see a guy with a coral belt on, I'm like, that's the level now that we're at. I can control a lot of shit. Joe, one of your secrets was following me, was putting yourself in bad positions. Yeah. Which in jiu-jitsu is like getting the biggest guy in the room and going, hey, are you busy right now? Dude, I'd tell people that I was taking you on the road with me, they'd be like, what the fuck is wrong with you? Get on top of me and just choke me.
Starting point is 03:00:25 You taking me on the road is like somebody going, hey, come here for a second. What do you weigh? 300? I weigh 140. Get on top of me in a mount and put one hand in and we'll start there. Yeah. Let's start right there. Let's start right fucking there.
Starting point is 03:00:43 But only if you think about it that way See this is what's what was important about it There's one one of the things is important about traveling with all really funny people It only becomes a negative when you think at it as a negative when someone's funny You should be laughing and enjoying it and it makes your time more enjoyable when you go on stage Yes, it does. I needed to learn that and the way way I learned that, one of the ways was going on the road with you. I knew that you were going to crush. And so I knew that everybody else would like to take, you know, we were both relatively young in our comedy careers back then, right?
Starting point is 03:01:17 So it was like we're talking about I had been doing comedy maybe nine years or eight years. But you were a lot wiser about the game. Like you introduced me to shit that I had never even, like I read a few books and watched a few tapes, but you had the practical knowledge that I needed. Like you were the votex cool. Well, what I did is I thought about it the same way I thought about martial arts. That's one of the reasons why I wanted to go on the road with you all the time.
Starting point is 03:01:42 I was like, you don't get better at sparring people that suck. You get better when you spar with wizards. You got, you don't get better at sparring people that suck. You get better when you spar with wizards. You've got to be real careful when you're sparring with wizards. And so I was like, what I would need to do is have someone who goes on stage in front of me and just crushes. I had some tough sets going on after you. I remember one time in Rascals. Rascals in West Orange, right?
Starting point is 03:02:03 Was it West Orange or East Orange? West. West Orange, New Jersey Was it West Orange or East Orange? West. West Orange, New Jersey. Fucking great club. But you went up and you got into it with some people in the audience about something and you were just on fire. Just on fire. You crushed. And I had a real hard time going on after you.
Starting point is 03:02:22 And I remember thinking, oh, okay, this is a very important lesson. This is important. There's something that I'm not doing right that he is doing right. Like, what am I, how come I'm not, oh, I'm nervous. I'm nervous going on after him. So I'm not having fun up there. So he's having fun, and I'm being tense going, oh, geez, this better not suck. So I'm putting in my head this better not suck.
Starting point is 03:02:40 It's the total wrong way to approach. Like, if you approach a fight like that, man, you're going to get smashed most likely. You want to approach a fight thinking about the things you're going to do, not the things that you want to worry about what's going to happen if you get hit. You don't think like that. You just think about doing your thing and then adjusting along the way. And I had the wrong mindset, and I needed to see someone kill a bunch of times in front of me and then bomb go after them to realize, okay, something's wrong here. The wrong thing is that I'm going on stage tense because someone was funny. That's ridiculous. of times in front of me and then bomb go after them to realize something's wrong here the wrong
Starting point is 03:03:05 thing is that i'm going on stage tense because someone was funny that's ridiculous like i should be the opposite i should be happy that someone was funny because i love comedy and this is what i like to do i mean i like to watch it if i'm not doing it so why am i so tense it's just a bad way of approaching a problem and i think this is one of the things that fucks people up in life you approach a problem the same way every time and you never stop and just completely look at the whole thing from the top down just look at the whole thing go what what am I trying to do here I'm trying to get tighter and funnier and better what do I got to do I gotta do a lot of sets I got a right and I got to work with murderers that was the key it's like
Starting point is 03:03:44 working with guys like you and all of us working together. And also people knew if they came to see us, like, hey, this isn't just going to be Joe goes up and he's the hero of the show. No, you're going to get Ari who's going to go on and murder. You're going to go on and murder. And then I'm going to go up. I mean, it's a fucking rock-em-sock-em robot show we had. We went on the road, dude. We did clubs across the country
Starting point is 03:04:05 we did i mean who knows how many fucking cities you and i and ari toured on fucking crazy numbers just over and over again bonding together hundreds of shows together figuring out how to fucking get everything perfect figuring out the right amount of weed to smoke before you go on stage, the right amount of getting Joey Diaz riled up. You would come in yelling about something or here, I want you to see something. I'd go into the bathroom and there'd be a shit that looks like a crocodile
Starting point is 03:04:34 trying to crawl out of the toilet bowl. All that stuff, that's some rock and roll comedy, man. It helped both of us. It helped both of us a lot. And it also set a tone that I think for a lot of us. Like, you should be with funny people. Everybody should try hard. You should not, like, think that anybody doing good is bad for you.
Starting point is 03:04:54 It's great. It's great for you. It's great for everybody. That everybody's, like, doing good together is better for everybody. When I go on the road now, I go on the road under those Joe Rogan principles. Like, that's my whole road thing. The only thing I added to it, the only Jeet Kune Do I added to it is my travel. I'm in and out fast.
Starting point is 03:05:13 I don't fuck around. I don't rent a car. I don't want to see nobody. I'm in and out. Yeah. I go right over there. There's no radio necessary. I play just like you now.
Starting point is 03:05:22 Yeah, they'll try. Yeah, they'll try. Because they have relationships with local radio necessary. I play it just like you now. Yeah, they'll try. Because they have relationships with local radio stations. They're like, you know, KCWI wants to get you in there in the morning. But if they're cool, I go in because you want to talk to the people on the way up, the same people on the way down. There's a lot of people that were there for me when I wasn't, so I try to do their
Starting point is 03:05:39 station. The problem is that waking up in the morning murders you. It just kills you you It just kills you And you gotta get in there a day earlier Cause if you wanna do Friday morning you gotta get in there Thursday now You can't just show up Friday 3 o'clock in the afternoon No I can't do it I fly out Thursday at fucking 6am
Starting point is 03:05:55 That's the best you got out of me Cause I got the family We got a lot of shit It's not like it used to be man But the thing that I love about this time is that even though people are super sensitive, like we were talking about, people are real sensitive about getting in trouble for stuff, there's still rock'em, sock'em robots comedy going on. It's still wild out there.
Starting point is 03:06:16 Dudes are still doing crazy fucking jokes. It's fun. People are taking real chances. They're doing real stand up there's a lot of them, there's Bill Burr there's you, you can go down the list Ari's doing some real stand up there's a bunch of real killers
Starting point is 03:06:34 now, Santino he's doing some dangerous stand up the shit I'm writing now I'm writing from my heart, that's it the point of that fucking story I told you of being on top of that hill at 17 and being homeless is because i had a lot of chances to ice myself joe i had a lot of hands chances to ice myself they could get out of prison
Starting point is 03:06:58 and thinking of getting out on bail when i got out on bail i had a lot of doubts my friend think you're getting out of bail and knowing you're going to look at 48 fucking years, and you're a fucking loser as it is. Think of all those opportunities. I used to break into a friend's house to sleep in his house at night. I slept in a rocket ship for a month outside at a park. You ever go to a park and see those rocket ships and your kids play on them? I still remember going up to the third floor
Starting point is 03:07:26 of the rocket ship, finishing off my Coke and jerking off on the third floor at five in the morning outside in a fucking park with leaves around me and shit. There was a lot of times I had that I wanted to do a fucking... That visual is amazing. You have no fucking idea.
Starting point is 03:07:42 I would go up to the third floor with a bottle of fucking Smirnoff silver vodka, a bag, a hooded sweatshirt, gloves with a missing finger. So I could fucking touch the rock and put them in my nose and shit. You know what? Now, that's all funny. That's all funny on the way up the stairs and shit. But when you come down and you're in that rocket ship and it's 5 in the morning and it's 20 fucking, 2 below 0. Oh. And you're thinking to yourself, fucking God took away my mother.
Starting point is 03:08:15 God did this. This is all God's fault. Because the same God that I was raised to believe that was going to help me is doing all this. A lot of times I wanted wanted to do a swan dive but i didn't you know it's so weird i was in those positions for a long time joe yeah now i gotta look at you and go jesus christ look at like turners no no tina turner's son killed himself yesterday it wasn't ike's son though i thought it was ike's son with her you know this trend of people icing themselves.
Starting point is 03:08:46 That scares me. That concerns me. Is it something we're eating? Is it something that we're getting weak on? You know, there was no drugs in Bourdain's system, so we can't blame fucking prescription drugs on this. You know, he was on one medication, some sort of medication, and it was something that was prescribed for him.
Starting point is 03:09:04 Someone told me that it was malaria medication i don't know probably i don't know if they've released that but i'm sure he had to take some of that stuff sometimes but you know you don't know what it was that did him in i mean according to some people he really wasn't doing well you know i don't i don't know i need to i mean it's almost unnecessary to get for me to get the full story. I miss the guy. He's gone. That's it.
Starting point is 03:09:27 You know what I mean? I don't need to. I think whenever someone does something like that, whatever it is, if there's one thing that people could point to and say, hey, there's a chemical that's responsible for this or there's a gene problem that's responsible for this, like how could someone who's loved so much want to step out? I mean, that must be a terrible moment of pain to want to do it.
Starting point is 03:09:52 You ever been on the computer listening to music on YouTube and you're writing? Right. And it just keeps playing songs and you don't have no control of it. I think I started with Leonard Skinner, Simple Man. And I kept going on with Leonard Skinner, the Simple Man. And I kept going on the Leonard Skinner trip. And I went. I came back and at one point blew up the outside world.
Starting point is 03:10:11 And I'm sitting there and he says that line about going out or something. Joe Rogan, my lip started shaking. I'm like, I don't even know this guy. And I miss him. I don't know this guy. You want me to look at you people and tell you I know? I met like, I don't even know this guy, and I miss him. I don't know this guy. You want me to look at you people and tell you I know?
Starting point is 03:10:27 I met Chris. I don't know. I don't know. I saw him one time at the comedy store six feet away from me, Chris Cornell. That's it. And I started crying. Like, how could somebody like this go in a room and just ice themselves? Is this what I'm going to do because I'm in this fucking entertainment field?
Starting point is 03:10:44 Because what happens? And then I think about all these times. One time, I broke into my friend's house, and I broke in the window, and it was freezing, so I couldn't even sleep in that room. I had to sleep in the hallway. And there was a mattress on the wall that had, like, piss stains from all the kids,
Starting point is 03:11:01 and I pulled it down, and I slept on it. And when I woke up, he had a dog, and when it was too cold, he had a dog, and when it was too cold, he just let the dog shit downstairs. And there was like 20 pieces of little rolled up shit that had been, you know, like when the juice goes out of them, they just roll up. What's those things that you use? Organ, what are those?
Starting point is 03:11:20 Accordions? Accordions. It was like a piece of shit shrinks like an accordion when the moisture goes out of it it really does so if you take a shit that's this big
Starting point is 03:11:28 and you put it in a box come back a week later it's like this big how do I know that because I did it to a guy in prison I took a shit in a welfare box
Starting point is 03:11:37 one time you know the box is a cheese where the cheese comes in American cheese this dude had long hair and would always
Starting point is 03:11:44 try to play me like he was with the biker dudes so you took a shit in a box for him but he played Where the cheese comes in, American cheese. Yes. This dude had long hair and would always try to play me. He was with the biker dudes. Oh, so you took a shit in a box for him? But he played. He worked in the kitchen. He forgot I ran the kitchen. And it was all me and black dudes.
Starting point is 03:11:58 So one day I got one of the welfare cheese boxes, and I took like a 22, 24-inch. It looked like a lizard. It was just long, thin at the end. What are those things that move? Taper It looked like a lizard. It was just long. Like, you know, thin at the end. Like one of those things that move like a snail. That's what it looked like, a long brown snail. And I fit it perfectly into this cheese box.
Starting point is 03:12:19 And I took a flag, an American flag, like from the cheese, and I put it on top. And I put it in this drawer. And every night, and he had the first bunk on the way out. So everybody had to walk back. And all the black guys would open the door and go, God damn, it smells like shit in this motherfucker. And he kept saying, I know it does. I don't know why it smells like shit in here.
Starting point is 03:12:38 And after like a month, one day, he went in this drawer. Everybody kept saying, man, it smells like shit in here. He went in this drawer, opened it up, and he found this box. He opened it up, and I'll never forget him knocking on my bunk going, I'm going to find out who did this to me. And I go, what'd they do to you? And he goes, look at this. And I go, what is it?
Starting point is 03:12:55 And I knew it was shit. But it had shrunken down from the 24 inches to like six little inches. Really? It just shrunk down. When all the moisture goes out, it just shrunk down when all the moisture goes out. It just shrunk down like a fucking... I don't even know why I'm telling you that story.
Starting point is 03:13:10 It's a hilarious story. It's fucking crazy. It's a hilarious story. These are fun times, Joey Diaz. I think we're the last of the regular humans. I think we got
Starting point is 03:13:20 our children's generation maybe one more after that and I really do believe it's over. I think we're going to integrate with fucking computers. I think we're real close to it now. Can't even go a whole podcast without looking at our phone. Oh, what time is it?
Starting point is 03:13:33 You know? It's weird. We're going to integrate with computers. We're going to all be living in some weird world. We got this fucking virtual reality thing here now. The HTC Vive. You should try this thing out. It'll freak you the fuck out.
Starting point is 03:13:46 You think you're in another place. There's zombie games and games where you're on top of a castle defending the castle shooting arrows down at monsters that are coming at you. We're entering into a weird world
Starting point is 03:14:00 right now, Joey Diaz. Computers and us. Well, that's not that. We got too much information, Joe. That too. We have too much information. It's a part of these things Computers and us. Well, that's not that. We got too much information, Joe Rogan. That too. We have too much information. It's a part of these things. Too much information. Well, listen. On this thing, I do not have social media. Good
Starting point is 03:14:12 for you. You do know that. I only have Twitter on it. Oh, that's social media. I don't have Facebook. I don't have nothing on it. But that is social media. And I got my Hotmail Hotmail. Oh. Which nobody even... When I tell people Hotmail, they go, what the fuck are you talking about? So you limit your interaction.
Starting point is 03:14:28 That's good. That's smart. Limit my interaction. On the road, the iPad, no social media. I'm convinced. Netflix and a writing app on my iPod. That's it? That's it.
Starting point is 03:14:40 What do you use for a writing app? Whatever app came with it. Writing, whatever. It has sections so i have jokes books i have chapters this that thoughts right i'm working on is it notes is that what you write on i don't know what it's like it looks like yellow paper no no no no notes i have on the phone right and i write on here from time to time, but nothing too fucking crazy. But you write on something that's on an iPad. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:15:06 So what I do is I'll write on a notebook in the mornings, and then once I take the baby to whatever, I'll go to the coffee shop and transfer it, if I really like it, to the iPad, and I'll work on it from there. And then I look at the whole thing as a whole now instead of in a notebook, and I don't know my spelling, and I can't remember what that word was. The social media part is a big part of all this that I'm talking about is that we're just getting closer and closer to each other in some weird ways.
Starting point is 03:15:34 This is going to be nothing compared to the next wave. Whatever the next wave is, they really do figure out a way to integrate either virtual reality or what they're calling augmented reality, like you'll wear a pair of sunglasses and you can have Google Maps sitting up on it. You can Google things. You can see images, give you navigation. It's going to get real weird, Joey. See, Joe Rogan, I'm still a fan of life.
Starting point is 03:15:56 Me too. And it bothers people. And it bothers me when somebody's not a fan of life, so I don't want them around me anymore. Who's not a fan of life? A lot of people. We've forgotten. Really. We've forgotten. Really?
Starting point is 03:16:05 We've forgotten. Yeah, yeah. Too many cameras. Yeah. Too many pictures. Too many videos. Listen, I was raised in a society. You don't see too many.
Starting point is 03:16:14 Really tough to me to find pictures of me as a young kid. Really tough. Yeah, there's not a lot of pictures taken back then. I came from a society where, no, and I came from a society where put the camera away. Right. Good. What's that for? It from a society where put the camera away. Right. Good. What's that for? It's a part.
Starting point is 03:16:27 Put the camera away. Yeah. Why? Put the camera away. Well, we need more of that backstage, right? We need more of that in life. Put the camera away my way. You know, I'm a stern believer.
Starting point is 03:16:37 I don't like text messages. Not because I'm a prick or a douchebag. I want to hear Joe Rogan's voice. No, we've talked about that. There's some people I don't want to a douchebag. I want to hear Joe Rogan's voice. No, we've talked about that. There's some people I don't want to hear your fucking voice. I want to hear your voice because I know what you're thinking if I hear your voice. I care about you. I care about you too.
Starting point is 03:16:53 So I want to hear your voice. I always tell people that I love that thing that you do. You're like my one friend. The only time I ever text you is if you text me first. Yeah. I'll text you back. But I call you. We talk on the phone.
Starting point is 03:17:06 You have to check in. You have to have that. You have to be as human. There's days I don't have nothing on my books. I don't want to do comedy, but guess what I'll do? I'll push myself. I'll be sore, and I'll push myself to go roll because that's human contact. roll because that's human contact mmm and it's it's it's it's the most positive human contact you'll ever have right think about it yeah you roll on
Starting point is 03:17:34 the street we're fighting about something but me knuckles and I grab you gear I pull you into my know it's fun and the fucking that's his human kind so I know I'm not gonna do this I'm gonna do that tonight. I'm gonna write a little bit. Maybe spend some time with the girls Maybe I'm gonna take the girls for dinner But I also know that I'm gonna make myself have that human contact of jiu-jitsu All you you gay Joey, you're just a closet fag cuz you're rolling with men. That's great, but I had human contact I had an emotion.
Starting point is 03:18:06 I shook hands with a guy. A guy sweat on me, and I sweat on a man, which builds a certain type of emotion between two men. And then they'll have to be homosexual. That's a different type of fucking man. It really is. It is. When you stop what you're doing and go,
Starting point is 03:18:21 Joey, Joey, Joey, Joey, Joey, Joey, stop, stop, stop, get the underhook. And while you're teaching me something, I'm sweating. My fat fucking potato chip sweat is landing on Joe Rogan's neck. But you're going, Joey, grab my neck. Ah, ah, squeeze. Ah, there you go. Now do that to me next time.
Starting point is 03:18:38 You know what that does to your psyche as a man? That a man that's beating you is teaching you how to let get up. So, Joe, I got you in this guillotine, but stick your hand there. Go, and you're sweating. And you're like, I can't. I'm tired. No, no, no, no. Just put your hand in there one time.
Starting point is 03:18:58 Just squeeze real tight. Ooh, there you go. Joey, Joey, Joey. You're fucking killing me. Jesus, Joe. That's a complete different part of a man i think so too i think that that's your boy i think it's good for you the human contact it also alleviates the tension of like men have tension that they might get into a physical altercation
Starting point is 03:19:18 you don't think that way if you do jiu jitsu great you Walking, people are scared of vitamin D. This society has scared people of the sunlight. You got to get out in the sun a little bit. That kills depression. There's depression people talk about. Again, you know how many times I have to be depressed? You know how many times I've had opportunities to call you up and go, I'm depressed. I get depressed for 10 fucking minutes. Right.
Starting point is 03:19:41 Then I smoke this Tutsu Rutsuruza, expired fucking Chibichu, and I think of something that you said, and I laughed my fucking ass off. You know? On the way up here, I was high as fuck, and there used to be this guy that used to fuck with me at a body shop as a detailer. Used to fuck with me every day. Couldn't beat him up. He was a lot bigger than I would.
Starting point is 03:20:00 So I had to use my mind. So I saw a dead mouse one day. And I took it, and I put it in his jacket pocket and he was driving to work one morning and he went in his pocket for a cigarette and he found the mouse and he crashed his car.
Starting point is 03:20:18 Joey, we're at almost like four hours. All right, let's get the fuck out of here. What is it? No, let's get the fuck out of here. I love you. Thank you very much for having me. Vegas is sold out. Utah is sold out.
Starting point is 03:20:29 I'm in Kansas City with you. I'm at the improv while you're doing the theater, so we'll do dinner. Let's get dinner like gentlemen. And then I'm in Nashville and Huntsville, Alabama at the end of the month. But besides that, I'm home. It was a pleasure seeing you. You look great. I love you, brother. I'm going to take your offer up, and we'll train, and we'll have Jamie take some pictures.
Starting point is 03:20:46 Yeah, man, we'll do that. We'll come in. We'll do a cycle of the different cardiovascular machines, and then we'll do a circuit of the cardiovascular machines. We'll do a circuit of some kettlebell exercises. Can you do chin-ups? Do you do chin-ups at all? How's your shoulder? Terrible.
Starting point is 03:21:02 Terrible? Okay. Have you ever done clubs? You've done club bells? Yes, I have clubs. Aubrey sent done clubs? You've done club bells? Yes, I have clubs. Aubrey sent me clubs. I do the Alberto Crane club workout.
Starting point is 03:21:10 Friday, I'm going to see my man Joe Schilling and shit. Beautiful. Get a little tune-up from Uncle Joe. Beautiful. Beautiful. And that's it. Well, we've got a bunch of shit on here. We've got medicine balls and a heavy bag.
Starting point is 03:21:18 Yeah, I see. I saw you. We'll have a nice workout. Okay, thank you very much. Anytime you want to come down here, man, we can do that. Anytime. What time do you usually get here? I know you drop the girls off and then you shoot right over, right?
Starting point is 03:21:27 A lot of times I come here early and work out, but sometimes I can't do it until the afternoon. But we'll work something out. We'll do some shit. And thank you for the experience with Disneyland. Jesus fucking Christ, bro. It's fun, right? But just the way you told me to do it, like I looked at it and my wife's like, what, are you crazy? I go, listen, the man says there's only one way to do it.
Starting point is 03:21:46 I invited our brother Eddie. We had a great time with the kids. Yeah, I heard it was awesome. Fucking thank you, brother. Thank God for a place like Disneyland when you have kids. When you didn't have kids, you're like, who gives a fuck about Disneyland? But when you have kids, it's like, oh. Did I tell you they stopped me at the gate because they
Starting point is 03:22:02 found the nettle ball in me? Yeah, you did tell me. They fucking let me. You had to go back and throw it out. And then I ate half of it. And the guy goes, I didn't see you. I ate it. I love you. Thank you very much. Thank you.
Starting point is 03:22:12 Happy Fourth of July, everybody. Happy Fourth of July. Bye. That was great. I'll be on period. you

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