The Joe Rogan Experience - #1192 - Tony Hinchcliffe

Episode Date: October 31, 2018

Tony Hinchcliffe is a stand-up comedian, writer, and actor. Tony also hosts his own podcast called “Kill Tony” with Brian Redban, and it’s available on Spotify under "Deathsquad". ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Powerful young Tony Encliffe! Hello. I'm smelling this weed. In 12 hours, I'll be free. I'm excited for you, dude. I didn't do shit for Sober October. Did you stay drunk? I didn't stay drunk.
Starting point is 00:00:15 I just had a drink or two pretty much every night. Would you ever consider doing something like Sober October? I mean, like, if, you know, if I was a part of it, and, like, I got all that promotional push that everybody's giving themselves, hell yeah, for the business point. That's the only reason why you do it? That's the only reason I would do it. I have no reason. I'm in, you know, I'm in
Starting point is 00:00:34 perfect shape. Feel good about life. Every day is good. You know, I've been cutting back on things naturally. Like, I'm done with my, like, college years of, you know, getting wasted at the store and things like that. Like, it my like college years of you know getting wasted at the store and things like that like it's like well you're also not smoking cigarettes anymore right i'm off cigarettes which helps a lot by the way you know i gotta say for anybody out there
Starting point is 00:00:54 that drinks and smokes the two correlate you quit one it's gonna help with the other big time but i mean i'm just saying like cutting back on smoking because the two go so good together. Yeah, you were finding that those pens weren't really helping you that much, huh? The nicotine pens? Yeah. Oh, yeah. No, I love them. Yeah. But did it help you quit?
Starting point is 00:01:13 Yeah. Because you were still, you were saying that it's not the same. It's not the same. I mean, when you're, when you love cigarettes, and both of my parents smoked, my mom quit when she got pregnant with me and then started again like a year later. And she would smoke like in the little, you know, the little house that I grew up in. And it was just always like my whole life was I was built to be a cigarette smoker. Those two were probably smoking Siggy's while banging, making me like it was like I just love cigarettes.
Starting point is 00:01:40 I even still love the nice gust of secondhand smoke. just love cigarettes i even still love the nice gust of secondhand smoke now that i'm a non-smoker it blows my mind hearing people all those years say oh cigarettes stink like it's like i have i fucking love it really oh i just love it it just makes me feel good it's weird and i know because it's pure poison it just goes to show like what a dark lord i am is that you or is that just cigarettes in general have a grip on people? It's a dark grip. It really is. It's so crazy.
Starting point is 00:02:08 Cause what else gives you nothing and takes everything? And still it's just, this is my favorite part of the day. Favorite part of the night after sex during coffee. They said that Johnny Carson, when he was on his deathbed was just rotting out from the inside. He was just falling apart. And he was on his deathbed, was just rotting out from the inside. He was just falling apart. And he was like, those goddamn cigarettes. Yeah, it's one of the main reasons why I actually quit was reading about Johnny.
Starting point is 00:02:32 Really? Yeah, because it's sort of correlated. I still go on runs every day, pretty much every day, short jogs and this and that to wake up and get the day started. And there was a while there where I had a lot of like, not not really coughing up shit but it was sort of just like it was there and i'd have to clear my throat before going on stage and it started to get like it wasn't on stage but it started to creep up during work hours like it's like well like joey diaz just murked a room and I'm next and he's bringing, you guys ready for your next comedian? I'm like, it's like, oh, I got to get my shit together.
Starting point is 00:03:10 Did you ever cough up anything black? No. I've talked to people that have hocked up shit and it was black and they spit it in the ground and they saw black, like a black loogie. Yeah. I was like, why did you quit immediately? Yeah. No, six more years yeah but i read about
Starting point is 00:03:27 johnny and he was talking about like not only was that a major thing like those damn cigarettes like that's he just kept repeating that on his deathbed but they also talk about like how um he was like swimming which he loved to do and he just like couldn't do it anymore so he was like almost drowning all the time and stuff like it was just just like, he was out, he was gone. He just couldn't breathe. That guy went through a rough patch. Like not just that. Do you ever read the divorce settlements that Johnny Carson had to go
Starting point is 00:03:54 through? No. He was one of the most famous like divorce rapings where you just go, Oh my God. Like you find out how much he had to pay his ex wife. Like, Oh Jesus. Oh no. He oh no he he got
Starting point is 00:04:06 taken oh man eddie murphy had a bit about it eddie murphy had a bit about johnny carson's divorce in his act i think it was in raw did it on one of his specials yes wow it was that bad geez yeah this is on the national inquire but it says 220 grand a month was not enough. Wow. Carson's wife rejects settlement and asks $220,000 a month in living expenses. 17 million is not enough, she said. That's still fucking crazy. Wow.
Starting point is 00:04:37 What year does that say at the top left? 80? 83 or 93. What did she look like? She looks kind of hot there. Like that dirty 40, that dirty 40-year-old look. I like that. My goodness.
Starting point is 00:04:51 Back then, that's like a million a month. Closing on her. That was the one he split up with? He gives up fast life and is secretly seeing wife again. Oh. Well, that's the inquirer. I mean, that's why I was going to the gallery. So that's the gal he was married to that he had to give up 17 million bucks.
Starting point is 00:05:10 Oh, so he's married to her for a long time. Yeah. Well, how many times did he get married? That seems like the same gal there. World's most expensive. World's most expensive divorce settlements. Johnny Carson and Joanna Holland. 20 million. That Carson and Joanna Holland. 20 million.
Starting point is 00:05:25 That ain't shit now. We were going over some last night or yesterday on the podcast. Steve Wynn gave up a billion. Oh. What could she have possibly have done to earn that? Nothing.
Starting point is 00:05:42 There's nothing she could have done. She had that voodoo pussy, son. Unless she had all the ideas and he's just not admitting it. You should start a casino. Maybe I'll start a casino. You should have craps. Maybe I'll open up a craps
Starting point is 00:05:58 table. Even then. Even then. How much is a consultation fee worth? A billion. Oh, yeah. Well, that makes sort of... Look at him, by the way.
Starting point is 00:06:10 He looks like he's wearing a mask. He looks like it's Halloween 24-7. Yeah. Third divorce unlikely for Steve Wynn. Wow. Poor guy. Good Lord. You think a guy...
Starting point is 00:06:22 These guys just keep going in. That's what's crazy. They're like, no, no, she's the one. No, no, it's never gonna change. Yeah, he's got it all figured out. No, no, she's the one. It's a strange thing. You know, it becomes
Starting point is 00:06:35 humorous. Like, Elizabeth Taylor, who was stunningly beautiful when she was young. Did you ever see Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf? Uh-uh. It's a must-see. It's a great, great old movie. But Elizabeth Taylor was probably in her 20s, I guess, when she did that, and she was just so beautiful.
Starting point is 00:06:54 But as she got older, like she was... See if you can see, that's a pretty good picture of her, but if you can see like her whole body and everything, I mean, she was just a bombshell. And she was a bombshell and she was a bombshell and you know what was it the 50s or something like that like that picture of her black and white on the the second level where you see her body yeah that's a real body too dude there ain't no gym time there that's just straight up genetics and whiskey look at them Look at them. Look at them legs and... That's just biology.
Starting point is 00:07:29 But then towards the end, I mean, she had been married and divorced. Don't show the old pictures. Don't show the old pictures! Stop it, Jamie! Stop it, Jamie! Google Elizabeth Taylor amount of times married.
Starting point is 00:07:46 Because I believe she was married. A lot. Yeah, I want to say she's like seven or eight times. No fewer than eight times. Yeah. She married a couple guys twice. Eight marriages. Only seven husbands.
Starting point is 00:07:59 She married Richard Burton twice. She married a bunch of gay guys, too. Huh. Allegedly gay guys. Her first marriage, one of the heirs of the hotelier. That married a bunch of gay guys, too. Huh. Allegedly gay guys. Her first marriage, one of the heirs of the Hotelier. That's a weird word. Hotelier. Hotelier.
Starting point is 00:08:11 Hotelier. Is that how you say it? Conrad Hilton. Ended in divorce after less than a year. Yeah, she was a wild woman. Wild woman. She got paid for all those. That's its own business, right?
Starting point is 00:08:21 She was rich as fuck. You know, she was really successful as an actress. so she probably had the money in a lot of them because she was dating some guys that looked suspiciously homosexual you know like liberace homosexual like wait what like yeah paid a million dollars to play cleopatra in 1963 yeah a million bucks in 1963 is probably like 20 million bucks today. Google that. What is a million dollars in 1963 worth today? That's crazy they paid her that much money. Damn, whoever her agent is, dig that motherfucker up.
Starting point is 00:09:00 This is what dollartimes.com says it's worth $8.1 million. Eight? Yeah. That's it? So million 8. Yeah, that's it So yeah Wow, I thought it would be like 20 annual inflation over this period was three point eight eight percent That's some and when you think of like like who's the top paid female today? It's a Jennifer Lawrence. Maybe probably yeah. Yeah What does she get she probably it's like 20 right somewhere in wearing that 15 to 20 range probably so she shits on Elizabeth Taylor Fucking Hunger Games bitch. Yeah, what? Yeah, yeah, but anyway um she married a bunch of gay guys
Starting point is 00:09:33 I think see if you find out Elizabeth Taylor married gay guys because that was like always a stand-up comedy joke that When I was first starting out, I remember a bunch of guys had jokes about Elizabeth Taylor But I remember a chick had a joke about it, too. About Elizabeth Taylor always marrying gay guys. Like, not knowing that she's so old and fucked up on pills, she doesn't know the guy she's marrying are gay. That's crazy. I wonder why she would do that. She probably wanted companionship.
Starting point is 00:10:02 Yeah. I think in the end, there was rumors of substance abuse. I mean I'm peripherally associated with these news stories. I don't really know them that well. I just remember reading something about substance abuse and drinking. The end is always rough, man. The end's rough for a lot of people, bro. Yeah, those pain pills and everything get you.
Starting point is 00:10:32 It's happening. The roughest of the rough, man. People who go out with those pain pill addictions. We were talking about Joey Diaz and I were talking yesterday about Prince. He called me up and he was singing to me. He was singing me that song. Do you want him or do you want me? Because I want you.
Starting point is 00:10:53 He's like, Purple Rain, cocksucker. Joe Rogan, when was the last time you listened to Purple Rain? He goes, I'm stoned as a motherfucker right now listening to Purple Rain. Goddamn, Prince was good. And I was thinking about it. Prince was just one of the many greats that we lost to pain pills. Just real recently. Tom Petty.
Starting point is 00:11:09 Prince. Who else? We lost several big name powerful celebrities to pain pills. Michael Jackson? No, he was Propofol. He wasn't pain pills. He was that shit that they used to put people under. Yeah, but he was in a lot of pain, right?
Starting point is 00:11:29 Wasn't that one of his things? I don't think so. I think he was just so fucked up in the head. He had so much anxiety, and he just couldn't sleep. He was just a mess, man. There's rumors that he was addicted to pain pills. Michael Jackson? Yeah, and he was working. He was dancing and mess, man. There's rumors that he was addicted to pain pills. Michael Jackson? Yeah, and he was working to make that big comeback thing at the time, too.
Starting point is 00:11:52 So they had him out there dancing and shit, looking like a bag of bones. I'm pretty sure they said that the propofol is what killed him. Yeah, because he couldn't sleep also. Yeah, you need to sleep. And what he was doing was just getting sedated every night. I mean, that's the reason why his doctor went to jail. He called it milk, right? Can I have some more of the milk?
Starting point is 00:12:11 Oh, God. I'm having a little trouble sleeping. It sparked from that accident he got in when he got on fire. Oh, that's right. He caught his hair on fire. He was getting medication for the pain from that. Yeah. Well, that's what happened to this guy that I know.
Starting point is 00:12:26 He hurt himself doing construction and then got on some pills, you know, because he had a back injury. They put him on pills, and then life is over. That's all it takes is one accident. I've only taken a half of one pain pill one time, and I know the exact day that it happened because it was the day that the WWE Network came out I had my wisdom teeth pulled and they're like take take all these that you want I'm like I don't
Starting point is 00:12:53 really you know I'm very reactive to pills blah blah blah but I so but I was in a lot of pain so I'm like fuck it I'll take a half of one and man if I didn't go through that whole networks library that day just with a smile on my face drooling on myself loving life just watching all the old stuff that I watched as a kid so fun it was the day the network came out it would be nice if pain pills didn't do anything bad
Starting point is 00:13:18 to you they just fucked you up but no physical harm no addiction no addiction no physical harm I addiction no addiction no addiction no physical harm i mean people are always going to be people are addicted to washing their hands i mean people are addicted to really weird shit but there's always going to be people that are addicted to things in that they can't quit doing them but addiction like in your bones yeah like those pain pills well they they feel it felt so good i remember the feeling of
Starting point is 00:13:45 just like oh this is the greatest feeling i i could do this all the time this is incredible it's just such a it's incomparable to even like you know drink or pot or anything like that it's just sit there and smile just waves of heat i was real sick once and i got a hold of that real nyquil in the 90s it's the last time i took it the real nyquil that stuff i guess it was codeine was it codeine that was in there yeah something like that right it's the uh susurp it was wonderful it was wonderful i was just i was just my pillow and my blanket was just cuddling me with love. And I was just lying in bed with a stupid smile on my face watching TV. Just like, ah. I'm so happy.
Starting point is 00:14:30 Yeah. They don't make that NyQuil like they used to. You got to get it from a doctor, a shady doctor. Sudafedrin is what it was called. That's what it is? Yeah, nasal decongestion. I think, I mean, since it's what was taken out of it. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:14:42 So. Why did I think, is it like codeine? Is it a codeine? We've done this before, right? Yeah, we've looked into it. We've talked about this before. I saw there's a THC liquid something or other being sold like in 1200 milligram, but it's sold in like a bottle that looks just like the propofil.
Starting point is 00:14:55 Oh, Jesus. Yeah. Somebody tried to give me some marijuana beer. Yeah. THC infused beer. I'm like, you get that shit the fuck away from me they're making cbd infused beer soon like i think budwiser cores or budweiser someone invested a shitload of money into in canada or mgd wow wow that's interesting well it would counteract the effects of alcohol and
Starting point is 00:15:19 somewhat because one of the things about alcohol right is that it causes inflammation cbd perhaps could counteract the inflammation yeah what am i a scientist i don't mess around with any of that thc infused stuff i like i like the cbd but thc when it comes to anything other than smoking it i do not play you know what i like pal i like these yep i like joints that are wrapped in in tobacco yeah these backwoods jammies, these are my favorite. Because they give you a little bit of elevation. You get a little bit from the cigarette, the nicotine, the tobacco, and then you get the weed. Woo!
Starting point is 00:15:56 It's a combo. Corona and Modelo. Corona and Modelo was the first to take the plunge, investing hundreds of millions of dollars into a Canadian outfit in order to bring THC-infused brews to market in Northern Nation. Now, Molson Coors, the second largest brewery in the world, is reportedly getting into the game. The game. The game.
Starting point is 00:16:16 Yeah, that's what's going to be interesting is when Smirnoff starts investing in marijuana, because they're going to. It's 100% legal in Canada now. Canada is just like buying a beer. It's, thank God, Canada. You bad motherfuckers up there. And you can travel in Canada and fly with it. Yeah, well, I love you can fly at LAX with weed now.
Starting point is 00:16:38 Heck yeah. Yeah, they say whatever happens when you get there is on you. Right, yeah. Did you see the thing that they have in Vegas? They have dispensary, like, or dispensers for marijuana at the airport. And then people are breaking into them, and they're stealing weed out of them. They're like, give me that weed. And they say, they're not free weed boxes, you assholes.
Starting point is 00:16:59 They're like, crossing international borders with cannabis is illegal. It's at the airport there. Yeah, but does that mean going back or landing? Either. I don't think you can bring it in or take it out, but they're saying, like, if you're at the airport, just make sure you're staying here. Isn't that interesting? Like, you can't even bring it in, even though it's legal there. Yeah, that's weird.
Starting point is 00:17:19 Wow, that's fucking... There's the box. Yeah, there's the box. Disposal for prescription and recreational drugs. Is that in Canada? This one's in Canada, but they have them in Denver also. fucking yeah there's the box disposal for prescription and recreational drug is that in canada this one's in canada but yet they have them in denver also i have the exact photo of the exact same thing from vegas i took a picture of it company that's supposed to come around and like pick the shit up and dispose of it you get your little skinny arm in there oh my god that is so
Starting point is 00:17:39 funny it's a disposal all the times that last second i'm just throwing joint tubes into the into the into the trash can like who would actually go up to that thing and throw it in there no one let me let me let me tell you yeah super fucked up like pot only toronto air cannabis amnesty cans that's hilarious this is just some guy laying on the ground with his mouth open at the bottom of that. Oh my god, did you ever hear the story about a girl who was, she went into a porta potty and she thought she saw something? Like when she was
Starting point is 00:18:13 sitting down and then she realized like she heard like groans. She realized there was some guy in there inside the porta potty just laying there watching the shit come out and hitting him in the head with his mouth open while she's shitting and pissing on him oh my god climbed in to the shit and piss that is so disgusting and hot at the same time for some reason the fact that a monster
Starting point is 00:18:40 would lay there like that he's probably had a fucking snorkel. Porta Potty Peeper, Luke Christo, suing Boulder for $99,999 or equal amount of gold coinage. Oh my god. He's from Boulder, Colorado. He's suing Boulder?
Starting point is 00:19:01 So it happened in Boulder? Yeah. Boulder's a trippy place man people been getting really high in boulder for a long time and there's no air up there so if you get super baked in boulder like you you could blow a fuse look at that porta potty it's like built for that it looks like it's like a float tank on top it's like a little you know what it's like it's like one of those first class seats you get when you fly to Australia. Oh, yeah. A little pod.
Starting point is 00:19:30 Get a pod. It says... What? Yeah. It's just getting weird. I don't know. Hold on. Crisco has made his mark on the internet under a variety of monikers, including Omni Rainbow
Starting point is 00:19:41 and Sky Orion, whose YouTube channel features clips, including this one, in which he demonstrates his thigh-rubbing technique. The video's not there for some reason. Yeah, I wonder why. It's been pulled from the internet. Whoa. Look at him. So this is the guy.
Starting point is 00:19:58 So he climbed in there to have people shit on him. Yeah. And how did he know that there was a girl? His reward for such patience was the sight of a slender, black-haired, white man. What? Wait a minute. Don't scroll. Where are you going?
Starting point is 00:20:14 I didn't know what the hell they were talking about before. But I'm reading that. Go back. A slender, black-haired, white man standing between 6'5 and 6'8 inches tall with cuts on his back and arms wearing only a pair of sweatpants. What is this about? Oh, so this is the security guard realized that he was doing something.
Starting point is 00:20:31 Scroll back up so it gets to that. Imagine like waiting there under the toilet in the porta potty for a hot chick to come in and just like Joey Diaz comes in like, oh, I'm excited about this. Oh, I've been eating Cuban sandwiches all week. There you go.
Starting point is 00:20:46 In June 2011, we noted that a woman attended the Ham-Man Festival, stepped into a portable laboratory, and when she lifted the toilet's lid, she saw something moving in the deep, dark depths below. Cue shock horror and quick escape when she fetched a man and asked him to look inside. He, too, saw some movement beneath a tarp inside the tank.
Starting point is 00:21:07 And after exiting the chamber, he heard the door locked behind them. At that point, he summoned the security. Okay, that's what happened. And then they caught that guy. So he's in there with a tarp, hiding under a tarp while people are shitting on him. Look at his face. Is that the mugshot? Is there shit all over him?
Starting point is 00:21:26 Oh, God. You son of a bitch. Oh, man. It's like the it clown meets the shit clown. Oh, look at this. He sat down with Fox 31 for a jailhouse interview in which he referred to spying on urinating or defecating women, in quotes, the highest creature in the universe. or defecating women, in quotes, the highest creature in the universe. He maintained as, in quotes, praising God and said, in quotes,
Starting point is 00:21:50 it sounds kind of weird, but I would just find my peace and go away. Say, thank you, goddess, and go about my night. Wow. Isn't that the scariest part when you drop a deuce in the toilet and you hear the words, thank you, God, is coming from the toilet? Thank you, God, for your offerings. He had other people's in other places around Boulder also. A number of restaurants.
Starting point is 00:22:14 Just to know that someone like that is a real person. You have to realize sometimes you have to see someone like that to go, okay, I don't know everybody. There's a long range you know if there's a chart of like fucked up to like totally normal yeah there's a lot of variables in there and there's a lot of people that just don't fit into your ideal who knows we may know people that are into that type of thing. We should set up like a trap. Did you say Earl Skakel? What?
Starting point is 00:22:46 What did you say? No, I said we might know people. Why did you say Earl? What? Jeff Ross? Did you say Jeff Ross? You son of a bitch. Listen, don't do that off camera and expect me to keep secrets.
Starting point is 00:23:03 We should put one of those those Jeremiah Watkins does what just kidding folks just we like we love those guys just jokes just jokes yeah do you think we do you think we know anybody who likes to get shit on well Jim Norton yeah I think Norton will tell you about it. We should put one behind the comedy store and see if anyone starts to look it up and down and lay down in it. Start drooling. Yeah. You know, they had this test they did with men where they took men that were –
Starting point is 00:23:39 now, before we get any further, I don't know who conducted these tests. Jamie could probably find it. They conducted tests where they Jamie could probably find it. They conducted tests where they put devices on penises. Who talked about this? Was it Christopher Ryan may have talked about this? And maybe our friend Chris Ryan talked about this. They put sensors on penises
Starting point is 00:23:56 and they showed homophobic men erotica and homosexual erotica in particular, like guys getting their dick sucked by guys and they got aroused by it. They put like these things on it. So that's what we would need to do. We'd need to like homophobic men
Starting point is 00:24:16 are aroused by gay male porn. Here it is. Homophobia is associated with sexual excitement by male on male sex. One study. This is the greatest reality show ever in the making right now I know right one study asked heterosexual men how comfortable and anxious they are around gay men based on these scores they then Divided these men into two groups men that are homophobic and men that are not these These men were then shown three four-minute videos. That's a long time to be sitting there watching a dude suck a dick.
Starting point is 00:24:48 One video depicted straight sex, one depicted lesbian sex, and one depicted gay male sex. While this was happening, a device was attached to each participant's penis. This device has been found to be triggered by sexual arousal, but not by other types of arousal, such as nervousness or fear. Arousal often has a very different meaning in psychology than in proper usage. I wonder what the device looks like. It's just some dude's mouth. Yeah, it's a dude's mouth. I'm pretty sure this was a Japanese game show experiment of some kind.
Starting point is 00:25:23 Was it? They had a guy get blown by another dude, and he had to last a certain amount of time. Oh, I did hear about that. They kept him under a stretch. Wait a minute. He had to last without coming? He had to go like four or five minutes or something like that. Without blowing a load?
Starting point is 00:25:35 And he'd win a bunch of money. And if a guy was sucking his dick. Yeah. People don't realize that Japanese, before Fear Factor, Japanese game shows were on another level. They were doing some fucking insane shit on Japanese TV. Some of the early YouTube clips we used to watch was Japanese game shows. Those guys are always ahead of it. Ninja Warrior.
Starting point is 00:26:00 Yeah. Right. Was that a Japanese show first? I think so. Ninja and stuff, yeah. It should be. And then they first started, like, that's how it got on to the way it is, because G4 had a contest for, like, the first American to go over and do it, and that just sort of
Starting point is 00:26:14 snowballed from there. And then they had that show that was kind of a version of it for America called Wipeout. Right? Remember that? Because that was the same people that produced Fear Factor produced Wipeout. And they had MXC where they would like auto-dub them or do the voice dubs and it would seem a little funny, but they'd be like the waiters versus the service staff and it'd be almost a big joke.
Starting point is 00:26:35 Remember what I'm talking about? No. It was called MXC. I don't remember the full name. Do you know? Mm-mm. I'll pull up a video. MXC.
Starting point is 00:26:43 So anyway, we put these sensors on Earl Skakel's dick and have someone take a shit in front of him. Earl's like, what the fuck? What did I do, guys? Nothing. Earl, we're sorry. We're just joking around. Oh, that girl got hit in the head. Now, here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:27:01 I can't help but thinking that that lady's running through shit now after we talked about it. I don't think, I don't see that as mud. It's just a silly Japanese show, but here's the, uh, the other one I was telling you about.
Starting point is 00:27:12 This is only, I can only find it on LiveLeak, but it is... Gay versus straight blowjob challenge. Yeah. Oh, my God. So, who's the gay guy?
Starting point is 00:27:20 This big guy, I believe. The big guy's gay. Yeah. And the straight guy, wow. And the gay guy says, those pants are hot. And so this guy has to stand there, see if we can get Takuya. Oh, my God. Of course, if he doesn't get hard, see, he might not get hard like this.
Starting point is 00:27:41 What does the expression mean? Oh, my God. Welcome to another episode of win win look at him either you win money or you come speed vacuum puts his hand in his mouth's expression has changed dramatically oh my god wow it's always those fat guys that really suck the best dicks i bet i love that you throw i bet at the end of that. It's a comment. You have to say I bet. I would imagine.
Starting point is 00:28:07 It's like a comment. This guy took his shirt off. What happened there? Oh. He shot. He shot. Thank you. I enjoyed that, he says.
Starting point is 00:28:17 Oh, my God. So that poor guy. Seems like we have a winner. Oh. That poor guy just nutted in that dude's mouth. He says that's frustrating. A lot came didn't it he says it's so frustrating though yeah but a lot came out the guy's like dude you you enjoyed that you came really hard he goes it was very frustrating he's like yeah but a lot came out like you came hard yeah yeah but frustrating don't like no but
Starting point is 00:28:43 you liked it at the time because a lot came out. It only comes out if it feels good. That is, they're evil. That's fucking with the person's mind. You know? That guy has to think about that shit for the rest of his life. Oh, he's probably gay now. He's probably on the other side of the game show sucking the dicks.
Starting point is 00:29:02 The reason why I would imagine fat guys suck dick better is because it involves food and gay sex at the same time. It's a combination of things. Fat people probably like things in their mouth, and then on top of that, gay sex. And Asian as well, Kobayashi is the hot dog eating champion. I thought you were going to go with a little
Starting point is 00:29:20 dick. Oh, that too. Get the whole thing. You're you're not choking yeah you could deep throat it you could really go to town and it might not even make it to your throat just deep mouth flip it i don't know that's a terrible stereotype but i'm really embarrassed you brought that up on this show yes how dare you indeed and if anybody knows things about stereotypes, it's Asians. Yeah. And Megyn Kelly. That was an Asian stereo. I'll get it.
Starting point is 00:29:50 Oh, okay. I'll get it. Like Samsung. Yeah, exactly. I'll get it. Yeah. Yeah. Megyn Kelly.
Starting point is 00:29:56 That's a crazy one. That's a crazy one. Because she said, and I never really got it all the way. She said that back in her day, people used to be black for Halloween. She said, why can't you dress up as like Diana Ross? Yeah. She essentially said, what's wrong with wearing blackface? She's like, why is it bad for, she threw one in that's not even really bad.
Starting point is 00:30:19 She started with, why is it bad for a black person to dress up as a white person or a white person dress up as a black person well it's not nobody says it's bad for a black person dressed up as a white person Dave Chappelle did it on his TV show forever remember yeah we do that oh yeah nobody cared it's bad because these two have minstrel shows like if she knew the history of it like you go to back and watch Al Jolson have you ever watched some of that stuff? A little bit, but I mean... We should watch some of that. Okay. The Al Jolson stuff? I don't think we can.
Starting point is 00:30:50 Really? Yeah, I mean... What would happen? Go to jail? Nah, I'm just... PC police? YouTube? No, no, yeah, yeah. What about white chicks? Remember white chicks when the Wayans brothers, uh... Oh, yeah. They had that whole movie where they wore white face. Huge movie. Nobody cares. Heavily promoted movie funny movie
Starting point is 00:31:06 Yeah, you could you could be white Nobody cares so she her saying that was very disingenuous. It was just to cover her ass. So that's Al Jolson So what the jazz singer Al Jolson? Yeah, and look at what he used to do with his lips he's used to make his lips cartoonishly exaggerated, and he would sing, but he was obviously a white man singing in blackface as a black man. It's really weird to watch, and he would wear white gloves on. Is it wrong that I feel weirder watching this than reading about the guy that was getting shit and pissed on? Is it wrong that you came quicker than the guy that was getting shit and pissed on is it wrong that
Starting point is 00:31:45 you came quicker than the guy getting his dick sucked by that guy man ma'am that's crazy pretty sure that was the first movie with sound also whoa the first movie with sound was racist as fuck. We gotta realize the first movie with sound was at probably 19... 27. Okay, so that is what is that? 60 years after slavery? After it was abolished,
Starting point is 00:32:22 but it wasn't even really done when it was abolished. So yeah. When was it done? Arguably it isn't with abolished, but it wasn't even really done when it was abolished. So, yeah. When was it done? Arguably, it isn't with jails, but, I mean, there were still – Oh, Jesus. Jimmy went deep with it. Wow. I'm just saying.
Starting point is 00:32:33 Yes. Okay. They were still – they weren't all – but slaves weren't all immediately released. Jimmy's on Black Twitter. You got to cut him. I'm just saying, but, like, slaves weren't all immediately released. And once the law passed, they didn't just say, you're free. That's a good point.
Starting point is 00:32:44 But what I meant was when it was abolished. I don't know the date you're looking for. It happened gradually over time. Yeah, because of the Civil War. The Civil War ended in 1875. Is that when it ended? It ended in 65? But the resolution to abolish slavery was passed.
Starting point is 00:33:02 The Emancipation Proclamation. Is that what, 65? 64-ish. I don't know the exact date. Look it up. And then the Civil War ended just a couple years later, right? Emancipation Proclamation, January 1st, 1863. 63.
Starting point is 00:33:14 And then the war ended 1865. Yeah. So that's not that long. Like 60 years later, they're doing, Mammy! Mammy! You ever heard it? Uh-uh. Ugh. It's's so weird let's say it's weird
Starting point is 00:33:28 watching old movies period yeah they go like the 1920s and shit it's like it's so i i i've watched king kong with my kids i i had them watch the original king kong wow and they're like are we gonna be scared this was a few years back like back when one was six and one was four. We're nervous. We're scared. I go, don't be scared. It's not scary. Just trust me.
Starting point is 00:33:51 You're going to think it's funny. They were laughing. They thought it was so funny. It looked so bad. It looked so corny. We're just cuddled up on the couch watching King Kong. It looked so corny. Like the claymation.
Starting point is 00:34:04 on the couch watching king kong it looks so corny like the claymation it's just weird that back then that was a horror movie like people would go to the movie like that was terrifying yes it was i'm gonna go get a sandwich my goodness i'm gonna go get a coffee for a penny i saw the new halloween movie the other day how was that it was awesome really they actually did it they made a great movie a great reboot it was really awesome if you've ever enjoyed any moment or know anything about michael myers at all it's unbelievable wow really great it's like modern day they make jamie lee curtis a badass like she's like she's her age it's bothered her her whole life every all anyone wants to talk with her about is that so she like lifted weights and shit she holds she holds herself up in this big she builds a compound with fences and everything in case he ever fucking comes back and
Starting point is 00:34:57 she teaches herself how to shoot like it's like real awesome dude you'd fucking love it i couldn't believe it the rest of the night i was saying to my love it. I couldn't believe it. The rest of the night I was saying to my wife, I can't believe how great that movie was. And she loved it too. So it's like all around awesome. Wow. What does Rotten Tomatoes say about it? Those people are all crazy.
Starting point is 00:35:17 I don't listen to any of these people's opinions. I went to a Yelp review the other day because there's this restaurant that I really like that's near my house. And I said, I wonder how it gets reviewed on Yelp. And it was like all five stars except one. One, one star. And it was like a crazy review where some woman was – she was yelling. She was complaining that tips – that if you tip on a credit card that they don't get it until the end of the week and then it gets taxed.
Starting point is 00:35:48 Is that how it always works? Or do you get it at night? Do they cash you out? Depends on the restaurant. Depends on the restaurant. But I felt like that was probably common that some restaurants will give you with your weekly check all of your tips for the week. It's not typical. with your weekly check all of your tips for the week. That's not typical.
Starting point is 00:36:03 It's not typical. Yeah, that would be if they're pooling, perhaps, all the tips of the week together and splitting it amongst everybody, which only a really, really, really good restaurant would do. Oh, that seems like it doesn't encourage performance, though, right? Well, at that level of restaurants, the performance is a given.
Starting point is 00:36:24 They're probably splitting vast sums of money because it's a full-blown machine. Right, like a five-star. Exactly. I worked at Ruth's Chris Steakhouse coming out of high school, and I learned pretty much everything there is to know. They make you memorize a stack of cards. You have to know everything, and the whole thing is a well-oiled machine. I was a food runner,
Starting point is 00:36:46 which basically means that I had to make sure that everything going to the tables was perfectly set up because there's no fixing it once it leaves the door, right? So you're basically the final approver of everything and the server's just waiting
Starting point is 00:36:58 at the table or follows behind you. You sit the tray down and they do it and you get 10% of all the server's tips on the floor. So sometimes, some nights, if there's, you sit the tray down and they do it and you get 10% of all the server's tips on the floor. So sometimes some nights if there's, you know, uh, say more than 10 to one food runner or
Starting point is 00:37:13 servers to food runners, you can make more than even a server at a Ruth's Chris steakhouse. And, but each restaurant does it differently and splits tips. Maybe they pull them that night. Pulling the tips actually usually means that the service is going to be unbelievable unless it's just a janky restaurant then they then they probably just do it normally well this restaurant's a very nice restaurant yeah so anyway i looked at this lady's uh one star review like one star out of five stars and i always have a big smile on my face when i see a one star review because that means this bitch gonna have a lot of one star reviews if you go to her page yeah so i went her page it was all one-star reviews this fucking malcontent yeah this monster
Starting point is 00:37:51 i was just going everywhere and complaining about everything from fucking nail salons to movie theaters like everything it's crazy i don't think trolls know that anybody is just one click away from knowing from them being completely exposed. It's the same thing on Twitter or really anything, right? You see someone say something crazy, you just click on their profile and it's... All crazy. All crazy, all the time, to everybody. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:17 They're complaining about everything. After Roseanne was on, I got a bunch of people that tweeted at me with these wacky conspiracies, like wacky mind control conspiracies. And what it seemed to me to be, I'm not a professional, but if I had to guess, a wave of mentally ill people were contacting me. And I was reading this and I'm like, Jesus Christ, how many fucking people are out there that believe the most nuttiest CIA-based mind control experiments and NSA tapping into everything in your home and listening to your conversations
Starting point is 00:38:57 by listening to the vibrations off of your window panes? Here's what people don't know. Who's got time for that? Here's the thing. Do you really think there's enough people in the world to be paying attention to all the people in the world? Does that make any sense to you? It shouldn't. There's no way everybody's watching everybody. There's not enough people. See? If you do something like, say, Tony Hinchcliffe runs for president. Oh, they're going to fucking watch you for sure. They're going to find out why is Tony Hinchcliffe running for president?
Starting point is 00:39:29 Who's backing him? Is it George Soros? Who's looking out for Tony Hinchcliffe? You know, who's trying to who's for? Yeah, they'll check you out. But the average person is like, remember that Mel Gibson movie Conspiracy Theory? Remember that? He played a mentally ill person who fell in love
Starting point is 00:39:46 with julia roberts he was like a hot mentally ill person and uh he just believed everything was a conspiracy theory it's i watched it the other day like out of nowhere it was on tv and i still didn't watch this for a little bit and i was like wow how fucking wacky is this movie people that have schizophrenia don't realize that they're schizophrenic. Exactly. People with bipolar notice. They might be aware that they're having an episode. People OCD, they're OCD, ADD, ADD.
Starting point is 00:40:14 Schizophrenia, it's game, set, match. You start hearing the voices become a normal thing. Like you think everybody can hear them and you're not really acknowledging them because they become so natural the schizophrenic person can be in a psych ward and say to their doctor why am i here and that's a breakthrough yeah yeah do you know mark maron heard voices in his head for over a year oh my goodness after partying with kinnison wow that's a hard kinnison party yeah we're pussies man we really are i was talking to argus the other day at the back door
Starting point is 00:40:52 and it's just like my god i literally said the words like i'm like i wish i was i wish i had started back when you started man really because he was talking about we ended up getting off on this whole, I don't know how we got there, but we started off on this whole tangent about just, you know, sobriety and stuff. And he's like, man, you know, back in my day. And he was, I can't remember the exact dialogue, but it was just, yeah, I mean, those guys were all, it was all just a blur. But it was just, yeah, I mean, those guys were all, it was all just a blur. I learned something from Argus. Because, you know, Argus runs like insane numbers of miles every day. Like 12 miles, 15 miles a day.
Starting point is 00:41:37 The addict in him, the guy that loved getting wasted, that's his high now. He talks about it all the time. His runner's high. It's real, dude. It's real. I know now because of this month. This month, the sober October month. Dude, I worked out no less than at least two hours.
Starting point is 00:41:52 That's a small workout, a small workout. Well, that's all I could get in was two hours. The longest I did, I did six hours one day. Good Lord. Six hours of insane cardio. That's like both kill bills, dude. I did seven hours of cardio in the last two days. Between yesterday and the day before seven hours of hard cardio different stuff running the hills with the dog elliptical machine you're competing with fat people right now I'm competing with myself
Starting point is 00:42:17 First of all my main competition is Ari Shafir and whether you realize it or not Ari Shafir even though he doesn't exercise Ari has a strong mind. He has a very strong mind. Ari ran 15 miles the other day. 15 miles. He rode 5 kilometers. And then after he rode 5 kilometers, he did something else. He rode his bike.
Starting point is 00:42:38 He rode a bike for a certain amount of miles. How long did it take him to run 15 miles? The whole thing, his whole workout was, I think, four hours. My goodness. He's got that power Jew gene. He's got that escape from concentration camp gene. Dude, he's You saw how fucking hard he was going on the rowing machine? He goes hard, dude.
Starting point is 00:42:56 He stayed in the 80% on the rowing machine for an hour. I mean, he really did. I saw him. I was out there with him. I filmed it. I put it up on Instagram. That's that point when Burt was making fun of him for being at 75 for just walking. Isn't that him being out of shape? It's not because when Burt and him went walking, he was in way better shape than Burt. See, Ari rides his bike in New York and he walks a lot in New York.
Starting point is 00:43:18 And even though he's not in great shape, like in terms of like a guy who runs, in comparison to Burt, he's in fantastic shape. When they went hiking together, Burt had to stop like a bunch of times. Like, we gotta stop. We gotta stop. And Ari was pissed off. He's like, why do I have to stop? Because you're fat? Like he's like yelling at him.
Starting point is 00:43:34 Yeah. So like he wanted to see what would happen if the two of them went out together and did the exact same hiking. Because Burt was saying, oh, it's because you're not in shape. So your heart is always at 80%. No. Ari in a week is in way better shape than Burt is in his whole life of working out and drinking vodka every night compared to Burt but compared to Burt but my point is he was my real competition I was very very much worried about him so up until uh two days ago everything seemed to be going good.
Starting point is 00:44:05 I was working out really hard, and it was hard. It's hard to do three hours a day. It's three and a half hours a day. Two days in a row is three and a half hours a day. But I started peeing, and it started coming out dark. Oh, no. Like iced tea. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:44:22 This sounds like a guy at a porta-potty's dream. Oh, give me that sweet tea oh that's sweet tea what does he say at the end oh bless you goddess oh bless you goddess for your sweet tea i was famished um yeah um it didn't look good oh and today i had to go to something in my kid's school i had some halloween thing and i had to go up uh three flights of stairs three long flights of stairs i got to the top first of all i barely made it up the stairs i got to the top i was out of breath and my legs were shaking whoa three flights of stairs and And I was like, okay. I might have fucked something up. Oh, man. That was today?
Starting point is 00:45:08 That was today. Jeez. That was today. What does it mean? I think my body's breaking down. I think I've got serious muscle breakdown. To the point, my muscles are so sore that I'm ignoring that they're sore. And even though they're really, really sore, I'm still doing like three hours of cardio.
Starting point is 00:45:27 Like I limped up to the trail when I ran with my dog yesterday. And then I ran two miles. And then after I ran two miles, I did an hour and a half on the elliptical machine. And then after I did an hour and a half on the elliptical machine, I did 45 minutes of kicking the bag,
Starting point is 00:45:43 punching and kicking the bag. I took two naps yesterday two separate naps my point is argus taught me something yeah by telling me about this high that you get from all this cardio and i was like what kind of fucking nonsense is that i knew that there's like an endorphin high but i didn't i didn't think it was really specific but there's a very specific high that you get and it's like if you could take a pill that puts you in the state of mind that I am when I work out this much, everybody would take it. And the world would be a better place. Because you don't give a fuck. Right.
Starting point is 00:46:16 You don't give a fuck about anything. I mean, not that you don't care about people and friends and loved ones. But there's no anxiety. There's no all the chatter, all the negative chatter that you get in your brain that you have to like push off and ignore that shuts off, gone, non-existent. And I wonder how much of that is there because your, your brain is almost trying to create problems and conflict because you're not getting enough exercise because your body is supposed to get a specific amount of exercise.
Starting point is 00:46:48 My dog is, I think, like eight months old or something now. And I've learned a lot from having this dog this time. Like I didn't notice a lot of stuff with the other dogs that I've raised in the past. Because with this one, it's very clear. And I mean, they're all that way. But if you don't work it out and you don't take it and exercise it,'s crazy she can be a nut and she shows you by being weird not necessarily destroying stuff but you know just being weird little things by nibbling at your finger a different way with just your little front teeth like sort of like telling you something. Like, hey, dude, I need to fucking get some exercise in.
Starting point is 00:47:26 And we're all, we are that same way. So our brain is going to make more complex ways for us to be freaked out, basically run for our lives, right? Yeah. Like if I don't just, I mean, again, I barely do cardio, but I do do it pretty consistently, but it's short.
Starting point is 00:47:47 It's like a mile or two. That's all you need, really. Yeah, and it cleanses the palate. It's like ginger between sushi slices. And if I go without it, absolutely it compiles. I'll wake up bitter and angry about something. I'll see something on, you know, somewhere or something, or work-wise
Starting point is 00:48:03 and stress out about it Like why oh this and that and stuff it doesn't make any sense at all right? Yeah, and if you were in a good state of mind you'd like who gives a fuck exactly, but instead you dwell on it Yeah, so your brains like trying to come up with problems. Yeah, yeah wants us to do something My dog Marshall's like that hardcore because Marshall's in shape because he runs miles with me all the time So that dog's ready to go and so it's like we're running right. We're running today. I'm like no not today, dude I gotta work. What the fuck? Right, he'll just start chewing socks and yeah, you know doing things that he's not supposed to do, you know
Starting point is 00:48:38 He's just you know, it's just a ball of energy but at least least he doesn't have anxiety and negative chatter. The complex human mind, when it doesn't have enough energy output. I always think of the brain as almost like a battery that has a lid on it, and energy's flowing out of the battery and spilling over the sides and causing a mess. Because you've got to expand or expend a certain amount of energy every day in order to keep it clean, just to keep everything going well. Dude, I feel fucking great. Other than the fact that I can't walk good. bend a certain amount of energy every day in order to keep it clean, just to keep everything going well. Yeah. Dude, I feel fucking great.
Starting point is 00:49:06 Other than the fact that I can't walk good. Yeah. But it's just, I went too hard. It's just too hard. But I wanted to get so far ahead. My goal was to get so far ahead that no one could catch up. I was like, if I could just, they could do these big days every now and then. I go, but it's hard to do a big day and then do another big day and then do another big day.
Starting point is 00:49:27 That's what's hard. I'm like, that's where I'll get them. I'll get them in the like, when you wake up, you're like, not today. That's the day you got to go. I wanted to put some distance between them. So what I did was I did one day where I did six hours. I did five hours in the morning, actually five and a half, then I did another hour at night.
Starting point is 00:49:48 So it was basically six and a half hours. And I got 1,000 points for the day. And they were like, what the fuck? 1,035 actually. Good God. I guarantee you that when Marin was hearing those voices during that Kenniston time that he wasn't working out. No, he doesn't work out now, I don't think.
Starting point is 00:50:05 It's easy for a comedian to not work out. And then when you factor that in, it's not a normal job. And you can go from your bed to your car to the venue to sit down at a table to wait till you go on stage. Then you do that. You stand up.
Starting point is 00:50:21 I don't think that had anything to do with it. I think it was cocaine. They did so much cocaine. They were up for days. Yeah. That's what it was. He broke his brain. And physically not doing anything.
Starting point is 00:50:30 Right. That too. But I mean, I think the big factor was the cocaine. Doing cocaine with Kinison. I think he just popped a fuse. Imagine fucking up for days and days and Kinison's like,
Starting point is 00:50:42 where's the blow? Where's the blow? Oh, oh! And you're like, I'm only 22, man. I got to get out of here. I have a future. I have a life. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:50:51 You know, do you know that he, Kinnison, and Roseanne have something really serious in common? They were both hit by cars when they were very young and their personality radically changed. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And that was one of the things that I really wanted to cover with Roseanne when I had her on the podcast. Cause all these people are calling her a racist and alt-right and this and that, all these
Starting point is 00:51:13 different things. I'm like, listen, you don't understand this woman. First of all, one of the greatest standup comics of all time. Yeah. Second, mentally ill and talks about it openly and is very honest about her troubles and what happened she was committed to a mental institution for nine months after this car accident i mean she was hit in the fucking head by a car the car was driving the sunlight was in her face she couldn't see clipped her in the intersection sent her flying she was in intensive care for a long
Starting point is 00:51:44 fucking time in a coma for a long fucking time came out of it was fucked up couldn't concentrate in school and then they committed her to a mental institution for nine months good lad i mean that is a long time yeah the hood ornament spiked her fucking head dude yeah so when people are talking her, like this is all something that she planned out because she's an evil person. That's like saying to a person who has a broken leg, why are you limping? Yeah. and she writes and you know she's got a great mind for it one of the reasons was she truly was like incredibly impulsive and insane and this is what allowed her to say things that other people wouldn't say especially back then like people have to realize when Roseanne Barr was huge and she was huge before I ever did comedy she was huge when she was huge
Starting point is 00:52:46 there was no women like her no one she was fat she didn't give a fuck she would go on stage she would talk mad shit it would be hilarious she would kill she would kill dude I remember watching her kill like on HBO when I was like probably like 18 or something like that she's one of mitzi's true like success stories right did you guys talk about that her being on in the main room and then being on like carson weeks later she booked carson i think we talked about that the first time we might not have yeah it's hard to remember she's a comedy like, for comedy store fans and historians. Like, she's, like, an anomaly.
Starting point is 00:53:33 Because I'm pretty sure her first ever spot as a paid regular was in the main room, which was a big deal at the time. And from that spot, she got The Tonight Show, like, a week or two later. Like, she got booked from her first paid regular spot to The Tonight Show. From The Tonight Show, got a sitcom deal a sitcom like was a huge overnight success so it all went like bing bing boom yeah that one thing that she talked about the first time she did the podcast was that she lost her mind when all that was going on she's like oh i went crazy i lost my mind the kind of pressure to go from being a housewife in denver to like a couple years later being one of the biggest stars in the world like that yeah there's no yeah that's it takes it takes
Starting point is 00:54:14 yeah that would drive anybody crazy the whole thing's crazy because also waiting for it's crazy and working towards it's crazy and the whole thing's crazy so to get it all at once that seems crazier than anything. Cause then you're like, Oh my God, I'm not ready for this. What am I going to do? At least most of the time in show business,
Starting point is 00:54:31 right? It takes 10, 15, 20, 25 years. Yeah. So, and you're usually like,
Starting point is 00:54:36 I'm, I've been ready for this. Or you do all those years and then you're an oversight overnight success like Tiffany Haddish. Right. Tiffany Haddish did a bunch of years and then out of nowhere she becomes this giant success. Yeah. But she prepared by doing all those years.
Starting point is 00:54:52 For Roseanne Barr it was like instantaneous. The thing that bothered me most about all that stuff was how quickly everyone wanted to just cancel her, get rid of her, stop her from working ever again. I don't want to hear her side of it. There's no room for explanation. There's no room for discussion. There's no room for... Just get rid of her.
Starting point is 00:55:13 Out. We went from wanting to see people become stars, American Idol, America's Got Talent, to watching people's dreams get destroyed. That's the new obsession. The new thing is, we've seen people make it. Let's watch the dream get destroyed. That's the new obsession. The new thing is we've seen people make it. Let's watch the dream get crushed.
Starting point is 00:55:29 You're already rich. Get out of here. Get out of here, Trump. Get out of here, Roseanne. Get out of here, Kanye. It's like these people, I mean, except for Trump. I mean, Trump's its own thing. But trying to destroy people that are artists, it's the weirdest thing.
Starting point is 00:55:46 Well, it's people that are on the outside that are watching these people live these spectacular lives. And if something goes wrong, they're happy because then that person has to be a regular person again or even worse. They have to be a has-been, which people love. People love a has-been. Yeah. I remember one guy was shitting on gary coleman because gary coleman was a security guard i was having this conversation with him he's like laughing that uh gary coleman from different strokes that was a show was a security guard
Starting point is 00:56:15 he's like that fucking guy's a security guard now man and i was like okay but if you saw like a regular security guard would you go ha that fucking guy's a security guard you wouldn't do that right you'd go oh there's a security guard hey what's up man yeah i'm going to building three here's my id he'd be normal right but because he was famous being a security card's a joke and he's a loser like there was it was joy and glee and this guy describing how Gary Coleman, who is born with a disease. I mean, he's deformed. He's this tiny person with a fucked up body. His whole body's a mess.
Starting point is 00:56:52 I mean, he's physically a mess. His health is fucked up. This guy was taking joy out of the fact that he was a security guard now. I was like, wow, there's a weird tendency that people have to watch people that they think had it better than them fall. Yeah, the guy that was bagging groceries from whatchamacallits. What was that guy? Oh, yeah, from the Cosby Show. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:15 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, apparently Tyler Perry gave that guy a job. Oh. Shout out to Tyler Perry. Heck yeah. Yeah, he said it like the fact Casted him as a guy Casted him as a grocery bagger
Starting point is 00:57:27 In some movie Gave him double the money Yeah No he said Love the fact the guy's hustling He's out there working There's no shame in working Right
Starting point is 00:57:36 The fact that people are So obsessed with that That there is That there's a shame in it There's a shame in Just having a job And working It's very strange It's very strange.
Starting point is 00:57:46 It's very strange how people are attached to that. You know, that they immediately think that this is something to mock and make fun of. You know, I mean, it was almost universal. So many people were doing stories on that guy bagging groceries. Yeah. It's the age we live in, man.
Starting point is 00:58:04 People want to see people break if anybody's doing anything there's a chance they're just waiting made people are so mad look if here if megan kelly if we didn't know what her contract was right if it was just some in fact let's say we did know and let's say she was getting paid barely what we would ever guess right right? Let's say she's getting paid, I don't know, $100,000 a year at her new job at NBC. She'd probably still have the job, right? I mean, it's the whole crazy part is that we all know she got paid
Starting point is 00:58:34 $68 million for three years for what? Right? That's the whole take. So it's like, you know, people are watching. Like like what'd you just say about halloween costumes that's it we got her we got her yeah did you ever hear it play it megan kelly shit what do you guys have like a button which comment like the apology
Starting point is 00:58:58 or the original no the apology was hilarious this woman uh said that some woman from australia said that it seems like a hostage video. The only thing that's missing is her holding up a newspaper with a date on it. I retweeted it. I'm like, it so does. And then somebody else said, well, if you, there's one of the things about it that's so strange is how insincere it seems. Like forced.
Starting point is 00:59:22 Oh. It's from a Forster. It's her apology. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. The apology forced her. It's her apology. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. The apology seems forced. Yeah, no, I haven't seen that. But forget the apology.
Starting point is 00:59:30 Let's play the actual video. If I remember correctly, it's two comments. She makes one, and then they come back. Oh, really? It's like the second comment, I think, was the one that was the issue. What was the first comment? Again, I don't remember. Oh, I only saw...
Starting point is 00:59:43 There was a controversy on The Real Housewives of New York with Luann. And she dresses Diana Ross. And she made her skin look darker than it really is. And people said that that was racist. And I don't know. I felt like, who doesn't love Diana Ross? She wants to look like Diana Ross for one day. I don't know how that got racist on Halloween.
Starting point is 01:00:01 See, that's the first one. But it's weird when you watch it now. Halloween appeared to be. See, that's the first one. Is it? But it's weird when you watch it now. Like, you know, this is her demise. Like, you're watching the stumble when she trips off the rock and falls off the cliff. This is the stumble. Like, I don't get it. How is that racist to want to be Diana Ross?
Starting point is 01:00:23 Then play it again. Halloween. Like, back when I was a kid, that was okay as long as you were dressed. I don't get it. How is that racist to want to be Diana Ross and then play it again? Yes. For Halloween. Like, back when I was a kid, that was okay as long as you were dressed up as, like, a character. And that. This is some guy's commentary from Wall Street Journal. That was a wrap. My favorite one of hers that she ever said.
Starting point is 01:00:41 My favorite one of hers that she. We're good. Yeah. My favorite one of hers she ever said was they were doing this thing on Fox News about Santa Claus and someone had something about Santa Claus being black they did something about Santa Claus being black
Starting point is 01:00:54 and she just went well Santa Claus is definitely white and she was like I think she said it to kids like kids Santa Claus is definitely right or kids Santa Claus is real and he's definitely white. I forget what the exact terminology was. But she basically said Santa Claus is definitely white.
Starting point is 01:01:13 Like, Santa Claus isn't fucking real. Okay, that's like saying Spider-Man is definitely white. She didn't get fired from Fox for saying that. She probably got a raise for saying that, right? Yeah, they licked her toes. Whole different thing at Fox. Well, it was then. They don't want her now.
Starting point is 01:01:26 Yeah. She wanted to go back. They're like, nah, we're good. Yeah, they wouldn't even take her back. The thing is, you can't go from being an ice princess in a conservative right-wing channel to being like Oprah, which she's trying to be like Oprah. Yeah, I don't, I'll never really get what NBC was thinking there. They were thinking, cha-ching, get that pipe.
Starting point is 01:01:49 They thought those people were just going to come over. Yeah, that's exactly what they thought. They thought she has a giant fan base. But she had a fan base, for sure. Some came over. But she, a lot of her fan base was because she was the beautiful conservative woman. Who was very tough, very articulate, very smart, you know, and they
Starting point is 01:02:07 liked that. She was an ice princess and she would shut people down if they were incorrect and she wouldn't let people talk over her. She was powerful, kind of frightening in a hot way. Fox News has a bunch of those chicks just waiting, waiting in the helms. You know what they're like? They're like that closet in Ex Machina when the dude opens it up and sees all these robots with different skin and faces.
Starting point is 01:02:32 They have so many of them. Just teleprompters ready to roll with big letters so they can read it clearly. We'll tell you what you like. Yeah. They're making a movie, and these three are the uh the anchors yeah fox news yeah robbie nicole kidman and uh and meggy charlie's there on yeah wouldn't mind being on the other end of that porta potty how dare you see you could get fired for that imagine if you were on a show and you said that that would be the end like that This is a beautiful thing about podcasts.
Starting point is 01:03:05 Yeah. Nobody gives a fuck that you said that. It has zero consequences. But let's pretend that you were on The Tonight Show and you were a guest. And you're like, I like being at the end of that porta potty. People are like, oh, did he really? Did he really? That woman was just trying to go to the restroom.
Starting point is 01:03:27 You think that's funny? It's crazy what's happening. It's crazy. I've noticed it a little bit in stand-up lately. There's been a couple of these road trips. I did something that you told me not to do, Joe Rogan. You ready for this? You told me not to do it years ago, and I did it.
Starting point is 01:03:43 And it was rough. And I did it, and it was rough. And I performed stand-up comedy in Connecticut. Was I right? You were right, dude. I told you. You were right. It's a place of despair. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:57 It's really crazy. So one of the things that happened was I noticed this really cool old guy stood out in the front middle of the audience right and i'm like you seem like out of place and cool as hell and old as fuck what's your story dude right and i noticed that there's this angry older lady almost like almost like dana carvey's like church lady character sitting next to him and i go and who's this angry lady that you're sitting next to she doesn't want to be here at all and he goes that's my wife and they were the most different seeming couple you could ever imagine this happy smiling laughing and everything guy and just this i mean she was looking at me with hate not just not having fun she hated me it
Starting point is 01:04:44 could have been something that I talked about early on. Maybe it was like something about your Amy Schumer joke. Could have been that could have been my me too. Joe could have been my Trump misdirect joke that people, you know what I mean? Anyway, and but I noticed next to them, there's this girl who seems even angrier than the mom. And they're the only two angry people in the room. And it's a gig at a casino in Connecticut. Give me a face.
Starting point is 01:05:12 Just literally. Like, literally, like, a modern day. Like, if someone said to a bad actress, like, play angry, play angry, angrier, angrier. To a horrible actress. Like that. And I go, what's the problem? And, you know, there's like, I ignore it for like 45 minutes, right? And I'm going on and on.
Starting point is 01:05:38 But the mom's angry. It turns out that the chick next to them is the daughter. And they're basically mad because of whatever, whatever material or whatever. And I end up towards the end of my set going off on the girl. I go, I go, take the scowl off your face. I go, what
Starting point is 01:05:56 are you doing? Do you think that's going to affect me? Lady, I'm getting paid the same amount whether you laugh or not. And I'm back to LA, back to the dream tomorrow. You know what I mean? Like at this point, I'm just – my fans are loving it. And they're the ones that stumbled into the wrong casino for the wrong show at the wrong time if they were looking for Christian puppet comedy or whatever.
Starting point is 01:06:18 And I said to her, I go, you seem like – I go, you seem like an internet troll that just stumbled in here. Like, you seem like you're going to write about this. You seem like the type of angry where you think you're going to change something or you're going to do something to my career. That's the vibe I get from you. I literally made the jokes. The crowd's loving it, by the way. You know what I mean? Because they can tell, like, it's not like it's not saying anything to you or is she just there was one there was one part where I go I go my because my goal the the thing that the reason why I ignored them for a while was because I go you seem like a tough lady to the
Starting point is 01:07:00 mom right I go you seem tough but I'm gonna break you at some point during this set. And when I do, I'm going to make sure this whole room knows. I'm going to say, I gotcha. And I'm not going to tell you when it's going to happen, but I'm going to make you laugh. Anyway, 45 minutes later, I get to the point to where I had in my mind set up that there's no way she's not going to laugh at this. And sure enough, I got a big smile out of her. Right. I'm not I won't say what the joke is. I don't want to give anything away, but I got the smile and I'm literally like and the whole crowd's already laughing. And they can tell that I'm looking to watch to see if the lady breaks and she doesn't. And I go, how in the I thought I was going to get you. I thought I was going to get you on that one.
Starting point is 01:07:44 How is it possible that you don't laugh at that? Like, what do you do for fun, lady? Like, at this point, I'm just all amped up. And I go, what would I have to do to possibly make you laugh? And that's finally when the angry daughter goes, be funny. I go, oh, no. I've been killing for 52 minutes now you know what i mean like at this point whatever there's everybody else the 99.9 of the other audience is the witness at this point and
Starting point is 01:08:14 they're against this chick right because this chick's now just mad because whatever and and i go you seem like the type of girl that thinks that you can even affect an artist. You know what I mean? This is this little millennial nerdy girl, and sure enough, sure enough, I go on Twitter later that night. There's a, at Mohegan Sun, you should not be promoting this comedian. Two days later, my manager gets an email. And he's like, dude, we got
Starting point is 01:08:48 this email from some lady in Connecticut. Says you were mean to her on stage. I'm like, she wrote you a letter? He's like, it's three paragraphs long. What is happening? What is happening in this world where someone's taking
Starting point is 01:09:03 the time to write a letter to my manager of all people? Who, by the way, is laughing at the whole thing. Imagine if your manager dumped you for that. Enough. Right. One audience member in Connecticut. Yeah. We polled the crowd.
Starting point is 01:09:18 99% thought you were funny, but that's not good enough. Yeah. We need 100%. But, man, you were right, dude. Connecticut is weird. It's not good enough. Yeah. We need 100%. But man, you were right, dude. Connecticut is weird. It's a weird place. You could run into a person like that anywhere. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:31 I mean, I've run into people like that at the store. They sit in the front row with their arms crossed. You're going to run into people like that everywhere. But there's something about Connecticut where it's no real cities. You got Hartford, which is a land of despair. And you got New Haven, which is worse. And it's just a highway between Boston and New York that's all it is
Starting point is 01:09:48 Boston's great New York's great Connecticut's like what the fuck are you doing here what's going on here it's become such a running joke that Lex Friedman the scientist from MIT who's on here the other day to talk about artificial intelligence he brought it up as a joke what did he say do you remember what he said
Starting point is 01:10:04 something about like he just wanted you to shit on it the day to talk about artificial intelligence. He brought it up as a joke. What did he say? Do you remember what he said? Something about? I feel like he just wanted you to shit on it. I don't remember exactly what he said. Dude, I did so many gigs in Connecticut. So many. So many. Because I lived in Boston, and it was like an hour and a half drive, two-hour drive.
Starting point is 01:10:19 You're in Connecticut. We did a lot of gigs there. Greg Fitzsimmons and I, we did a shit ton of gigs in Connecticut. We'd always leave going, what the fuck? What was that? It felt dirty. It's a gig I did purely for the money. Some of them are good. My good friend
Starting point is 01:10:36 Tommy Jr. lives in Connecticut. Those are good people in Connecticut. It's not all bad, but it's disproportionately bad. That's the problem. It's not that everyone in Connecticut is full of despair. No. I mean, there's a lot of people that live in Hartford. Not Hartford, but what's that area outside of New York City where all the rich people live?
Starting point is 01:10:56 Greenwich. That's where Vince McMahon lives. Super rich. Estates. David Letterman has a spot out there. I mean, you've got to drive a mile to get to the property down their driveway. The driveway's, like, a mile of, like, manicured lawns. They have those great Gatsby-type residences there.
Starting point is 01:11:14 Hell yeah. A lot of pills. A lot of people pilled up. Yeah, look at these joints. This is the average house. Wow. Look at these joints. That's not real, but it's being built.
Starting point is 01:11:24 Damn. Those look like an apartment building, dude. I know, but it's... But let me see a house. Let me see a house. See, that's not real but it's being built damn those are the apartment building down but it's but let me see a house let me see a house see that's a house that's a Connecticut house dude there's insane amounts of finance money like that's great Gatsby type shit did you ever read the great Gatsby I watched the movie I was supposed to read the book as a student the dicaprio movie is actually pretty fucking good yeah really good great soundtrack too yeah and it was weird too because like they took artistic license with like the way the automobiles worked and moved and there was like a lot of flair to it that made it exciting beautiful movie one of
Starting point is 01:12:01 those ones where you got to turn out the lights make sure your color on your TVs right and turn up the sound yeah yeah but that's that area that area of Connecticut is just unbelievably wealthy that area of Connecticut and there's another area that's similar to that in Long Island like that's the Hamptons the Hamptons in Long Island is all just insane wealth just like Matt Lauer has a house out there that's like $16 million from all that Today Show money. Holla. Man. He's doing it.
Starting point is 01:12:35 What is he going to do? Do you think that guy can make a comeback? I think he's going to be selling things any day now. Like how Larry King now sells things on late night TV. You ever see that? What is he selling? Larry King's slinging fake products and stuff. Larry King still has a show, so it's sort of a mixture of an advertisement.
Starting point is 01:13:02 Is his show on television or is it on the internet? I think it's on the internet. Seguro was just on it. Really? Yeah. I'm talking about the TV that looks like a TV show, but it's not a TV show. It's really just a, he's like asking questions
Starting point is 01:13:20 like he used to do, but it's just some guy like, yes, and another thing my prostate medicine can do. Oh, right, right, right. It's on the same set, that's why I'm saying like, yes, and another thing my prostate medicine can do. Oh, right, right, right. It's on the same set. That's why I'm saying that, I guess. Here's the set of his show. It's on Aura TV, but he shoots those commercials
Starting point is 01:13:32 on that wooden background set. Oh, okay. So they just have a similar setup. Who's that girl in the upper right-hand corner? What is that? What is that? Trixie Mattel. What what what in the hell am I watching drag queen what go go full screen please oh jesus christ look at her eyes that's insane
Starting point is 01:13:58 oh shit what's going on there with the eyes? I'm confused. Lots of tense makeup. But wait a minute. I don't, where are her actual eyes? Somewhere in there. Whoa. That's a drag queen? Yeah. It's got like, she drew on extra lashes or something. Yeah, but she also drew white underneath the eyes.
Starting point is 01:14:18 There you go. And then black underneath. Oh my God, that's insanity. Those are the craziest eyes I've ever seen in my life. And eyebrows going way up. Yeah, well, the black triangles in the corners of the eyes, too. That is the nuttiest makeup. And look at the cheekbones, like how sculpted it is, where it has an abrupt line before the lower jaw.
Starting point is 01:14:40 It's like it's spray painted with a box. She's like an insane person. That's crazy. Larry King's just trying to play it cool. He can't even tell. He's so blind. He doesn't even know what he's looking at. You look great.
Starting point is 01:14:52 Makeup's lovely. So how long have you been a man? I'm a woman. I mean, how long have you been a woman? I've always been a woman. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I forgot.
Starting point is 01:15:02 He's born in the 1900s, man. He didn't know shit back then. Larry King's watched it all happen, man. Dude, Larry King went to the pokey. The what? The pokey. The jail. Larry King went to jail, son.
Starting point is 01:15:14 Really? Yeah, there she is. Whoa. Whoa, look at that eye makeup, man. God, she looks like a Pink Floyd album cover. How is that even real? But she's got a signature look, though. I'll tell you that.
Starting point is 01:15:26 That's her look. She wears all these pictures. That triangle thing. I'm scared to have her in here. What does she look like without makeup? Okay, right there. What does she look like? What do you think she looks like?
Starting point is 01:15:36 Probably like me. Probably better looking than you. Maybe. I don't know. Look into the camera, Tony. Let me see. Yeah, maybe. Picture me see. Yeah, maybe. Picture me with cat eyes.
Starting point is 01:15:49 They're not cat eyes. That was a cat I'd shoot it right in the fucking head. That's an evil cat. What did Larry King go to jail for? Went to jail for something. It's a crazy, like, it looks like he's all coked up in his mugshot photo. He looks like a wild man. Grand Larceny.
Starting point is 01:16:06 Oh. Damn. Yeah, look at him. What is Grand Larceny? I don't know, something bad. Is that like money laundering? Larry King was into some Ozark shit? Come on.
Starting point is 01:16:16 Tell me he doesn't look coked out of his mind. Look at Miami. Fucking Miami. 1971. These whores. These whores, they had it coming. Look at his sideburns. He looks fucking amazing.
Starting point is 01:16:27 1971. Wow. Baller. I was four years old. Larry King's getting arrested. Damn. Find out what he got arrested for. What did he do?
Starting point is 01:16:38 Unable to pay back money he owned. Oh, that's it? Huh. He owed a financier he was doing some work for with a judge throughout the larceny charge because of statute of limitation run out. King pled no contest to one count of passing bad checks. Damn.
Starting point is 01:16:53 It's not that bad. Look how cool that shirt is, by the way. They just don't make shirts like that. Look, that's just white circles on a black collared shirt. You can get those from MeUndies. They probably have shirts like that. It could be blue. Does MeUndies do shirts?
Starting point is 01:17:11 They do. Wow. Yeah. Damn. Yeah, they have lounge pants now and bralettes. What's the promo code I should use? Rogan. MeUndies.com forward slash Rogan.
Starting point is 01:17:22 I love it. Everybody was doing coke back then. I got to assume Larry King was on coke. You've seen cocaine cowboys, right? Yeah. Fucking amazing. Amazing. Amazing document.
Starting point is 01:17:35 One and two. Amazing. When you just realize what, because you could be, especially if you're living in Ohio like you were or out here in Los Angeles, you might not know the history of cocaine in Miami. You might not know how fucking insane it was until you watch that documentary and you just go, what? Yeah. Or Narcos or really, you know. Narcos is good, but it's a lot of it is about another country.
Starting point is 01:18:02 Like cocaine cowboys is almost all about America. Yeah. There's one part of Cocaine Cowboys that I'll never forget where they said that the entire graduating class of the police academy was either murdered or went to jail. Jeez. Wow. They were all corrupt. Everybody was doing coke. They were all corrupt.
Starting point is 01:18:24 Everybody was doing coke. There was more banks per capita in Miami, at least at the time, than anywhere else in the country. And it was all money laundering. That's all it was. Fucking hell. My friend Steve Graham was going to school in Miami back then. He was doing his residency in Miami. He's an ophthalmologist.
Starting point is 01:18:46 And he was there during the cocaine violence years. So he was doing his residency to do emergency room work. So he was there and people, bullet holes and fucking brains exploded. He said it was crazy the amount of violence that you would see. Just every night, people with bullet holes and gunshot wounds and knife
Starting point is 01:19:02 wounds and fucking attacked with barbed wire and chaos. And a lot of people with things up their ass. Really? Oh, yeah. All kinds of things. Light bulbs. You know those twisty light bulbs?
Starting point is 01:19:15 Yeah. They look like a pine cone? Yeah. Up the ass. Can't get it out. Why would... Why wouldn't they? Why light bulbs?
Starting point is 01:19:23 Because it's warm. Lube it up. Shove it in there. Start beating off. Can't get it out. Oh, no. Better get to the doctor. Well, drive slow.
Starting point is 01:19:32 I'll put my ass out the window. I don't know, but he told me that that was one of the things they pulled out of a guy's ass. A light bulb. One of them twisty light bulbs. Other things, too, like G.I. Joe dolls, shit like that. That's what happens when you have a bad idea. A light bulb appears One of them twisty light bulbs. Other things too, like G.I. Joe dolls, shit like that. That's what happens when you have a bad idea. A light bulb appears in your asshole instead of over your head. That's hilarious.
Starting point is 01:20:00 That would be actually really fun. A really fun thing in a movie. Yeah. You know Like a cartoon I got a great idea I got a shitty idea Oh my god
Starting point is 01:20:20 Thank god we're not doctors Yeah seriously You know how morose you would get if every day you're dealing with people dying? They just get too comfortable with it. And you have to save them no matter what. I was reading last night about the Jewish doctor who had the shooter of the temple in Pittsburgh. He had to save his life. He had to make sure that he's okay you know what
Starting point is 01:20:46 i mean sometimes you're just helping horrible human beings that just slaughtered some of your own people now you're a jewish doctor having to fix the guy now in our world tarantino world we like to think that oh oh so sorry to accidentally oh it appears as if though i haven't given you the right medicine you know what i mean but in real life they have to just stitch them up and you know well it also mean that guy probably has a record as in terms of like his success ratio he doesn't want to fuck it up for some asshole right oh yeah it seems like being a doctor would be very, very hard. Like as a mentally, it seems like racking up those losses and such a lack of control. The human body.
Starting point is 01:21:35 EMT workers too. Yeah. Same kind of deal. A buddy of mine told me, um, never date a female EMT worker. I go, why? And he goes, they're crazy. He goes, they've seen so much violence. They just fuck everyone. I go, why? And he goes, they're crazy. He goes, they've seen so much violence, they just fuck everyone.
Starting point is 01:21:47 I go, what? And he goes, yeah, there's a bunch of female EMT workers that they work with. They just bang everybody. Obviously, it's not every EMT female worker. He's just my asshole friend. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:57 He's telling me this based on his very limited polling. But my thought on it is, can you imagine how fleeting you would feel that life is if every day you're seeing people die? Every day you're dealing with car accidents. You're showing up, people's brains are splattered all over the highway. Their legs are ripped off.
Starting point is 01:22:16 They've been run over by trucks every day, all day long. And this is what he said. He goes, first of all, no one's supposed to see that much death he goes if you see that much death it rewires the way your brain works he goes you're supposed to see that you're supposed to see that very rarely very rarely in life but you see it every day it's like something goes wrong and he goes it's been my experience that some of these women where that goes wrong they, they're just wild. They just fuck everybody.
Starting point is 01:22:47 God. I go, why do you think they're doing that? He's like, they're distracting themselves. Trying to distract themselves from the violence. Again, this is one asshole friend. If you're listening to this, you're like, fuck Tony Hinchcliffe and Joe Rogan. I can't believe you brought that up. I'm an EMT worker.
Starting point is 01:23:02 I'm a mom. I'm a great person. I'm sure you are, ma'am. I'm not talking about you. But you used to fuck like an animal and you know it. That's how those babies were made. Wow. How dare you?
Starting point is 01:23:13 It seems to make sense to me that female EMTs would be pretty horned up. Cops too. Oh, for sure, cops. Yeah. Yeah. I watched a porno the other day. Two female cops getting banged by the black guy they were supposed to arrest. Oh, of course that happens.
Starting point is 01:23:30 It must happen. It happens with guards in jail. Female guards. Remember those guys that escaped? One of them was banging the guard in upstate New York. They flew to Canada. They fleed to Canada. Wow.
Starting point is 01:23:43 Some fugly looking female guard The dude was throwing dick her way The guard left with the prisoner? Uh huh Whoa Didn't she bring him the stuff to help him break out right? Yeah Like the hacksaw or some shit
Starting point is 01:23:55 Yeah and then she turned herself in Yeah yeah She couldn't handle it anymore When the fucking The alarms are going off And the manhunt was underway Like how did he get out? She's like I fucked him
Starting point is 01:24:04 Whoa Wow Damn The alarms are going off and the manhunt was underway. Like, how did he get out? She's like, I fucked him. Wow. Damn. Imagine that. You're a prisoner. There it is. Look at her. I can't help it.
Starting point is 01:24:15 Wow. Joyce Mitchell denied parole after helping killer inmates escape New York prison. She's going to jail herself. That's the look of a lady that messed up after getting good dick. There was a guy I used to spar with who was a security guard at jail, and that was fucking with his head too. He was just telling me about what the experience was like. Every day you're just always dealing with these fucking people that they're never getting out of there.
Starting point is 01:24:42 He was in a maximum security penitentiary. It's like they're never getting out of there. Like he was in a maximum security penitentiary. It's like they're never getting out of there. Every day you're just dealing with horrible people in terrible circumstances. And they know that you get to leave. They know you get to leave. But you're living with them most of the day. He goes, yeah, I'm not a prisoner. He goes, but my environment is surrounded by these people.
Starting point is 01:25:04 He's like, that affects you. It's like, I never thought about it that way. I always thought the guards have it okay. It's just a job. Whereas the inmates, you know, well, those poor bastards are stuck in there. Well, you're in there with them for eight hours a day. Most of the time, you're not controlling them. Most of the time, you're just coexisting.
Starting point is 01:25:22 Yeah. Who's behind the bars? Which way is behind, right? right right they're in a cell with a hallway filled with bars people one person on the other side of each bar so are they yeah same exact thing yeah and then they're wearing body armor and fucking they have clubs and they're always terrified that a riot's gonna break out you saw whitey bulger got killed? He did? Yeah. When? Yesterday in prison. They transferred him in like first day. First day. Pull that story up.
Starting point is 01:25:49 A guy that hates rats killed him. An Italian guy or like a gangster guy. Really? Yep. The guy I read, the guy is obsessed with hating rats and hating people that beat women. And I guess Whitey killed women. Wow. So this guy, the first chance he got.
Starting point is 01:26:09 Whitey Bulger met a violent end after a lifetime of brutality. They tried to pull his eyes out of his skull. Whoa. I don't know if they were successful or not. The thing I read didn't make it clear. Hold on, make that larger so I can read that. It doesn't really say much about it. What does it say?
Starting point is 01:26:24 In a three-foot grave near a river not far from Boston, Pat McGonigal's body lay decaying, undisturbed, until his remains were found 20 years later. Part of his pelvic bone, a fractured skull, and a decomposed brain matter. A ring with, oh, okay, this is all the different things that he's done. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:41 Yeah. No, he was a horrible fucking killer. West Virginia, the day after he transferred you know i used to train a guy that was one of his fucking mob henchmen guy said to me once he goes if you're gonna kill somebody how would you kill him i was like with my bare hands he goes yeah i go i probably hit him in the neck it's like yeah wow i was like okay that was Wow. I was like, okay. That was the end. See, it's not scary until you find out that's the end of the conversation.
Starting point is 01:27:10 I was 19 at the time, and I was teaching Taekwondo. Wow. And I was teaching this guy who he was friends with a friend of mine who absolutely worked for Whitey Bulgerger who wound up going to jail and they told me that this guy used to whack people i was like oh jesus christ and i was teaching him taekwondo he was very serious like uh he's very intense and i was very aware that there was something different about him I goes very aware like he he wasn't just a guy that was learning for exercise or self-defense want to take little classes learn a little martial
Starting point is 01:27:53 arts he was gonna use it like he was a guy that was in case he needed to use it you know I'm saying like there's there's a mindset of someone who just wants to get better at a martial art and there's a mindset of someone who's thinking about okay. It's gonna come down. I'm gonna fuck get him right there, okay? And I'm gonna get him right there that guy was like when he would practice there was a There was a certain amount of focus and intensity that he had that was palpable Yeah Mobsters need to get better at at that type of stuff you ever see remember De Niro's kicks and goodfellas those just sloppy That's straight down just mutt. What's this? Why do you Bulger's favorite back that did it? Yeah, he was unrecognizable
Starting point is 01:28:40 Mr. Bulger's eyes appeared to have been dislodged from his head Although was unclear whether his attackers gouged him out or they were knocked out because he was beaten so severely in the attack. This information was relayed by a senior law enforcement official who oversees organized crime cases. Oh, that's what it was. It was a padlock stuffed inside a sock. Oh, that's what they beat him with?
Starting point is 01:29:04 Yep. And they also pulled his eyes out of his head. At least in part with a padlock that was stuffed inside of a sock. At least two inmates were quickly sent to solitary confinement after Mr. Bulger was found, according to three employees of the Federal Bureau of Prisons. Wow. Damn. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:22 Well, couldn't happen to a nicer guy. Whitey Bulger. Do you know he won the lottery twice? Really? Yep. Damn. Not really. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:34 Scam. I mean, that was how he would show his income. So someone else would win the lottery, and they would come to him, and he would, like, give them the money, and they would give him the lottery ticket, and he'd be like, look, I won the lottery and they would come to him and he would give them the money and they would give him the lottery ticket and he'd be like, look, I won the lottery. That's how I'm rich. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:53 Yeah, it's dark. They probably would find the person who won the lottery. You know, they chased Dana White out of town. Do you know that? No. Yeah, they wanted money. They wanted payment from Dana White
Starting point is 01:30:04 and Dana White. And Dana White got beaten up by them so severely that he had, like, tinnitus in his ears. Fuck. Yeah. He had a fucking, he had a jet out of town. He moved to Vegas. Wow. Yeah. Because they wanted a cut of the UFC.
Starting point is 01:30:18 No, it wasn't the UFC. There was no UFC back then. He was, like, a boxing trainer. Oh. I forget what he was doing, whether he was running a gym. Yeah. But he had to leave town because of the mob. That's why he left Boston.
Starting point is 01:30:31 Yeah, it was real, man. I mean, this was all when I was a kid. I mean, I got seriously into Taekwondo in 1982. That's when it became like 81, 81 82 that's when it really became like my whole life and that's right around the time where all that shit was going on and then when in 1988 i became friends with a comedian who was his brother went to jail for being a part of Whitey Bulger's mob. Yeah. Crazy.
Starting point is 01:31:09 Yeah, it was like everybody knew somebody who was in some way connected to the mob. In some way, you know. I just wonder, you want to hear a crazy story? There's one guy, he's dead now, I can talk about him. His name is Richie, and he went to jail while I knew him. He was arrested for a murder that I don't think they ever got him on. But this person who was killed wasn't just killed. They broke every bone in his body with a hammer and kept injecting him with cocaine to keep him awake.
Starting point is 01:31:46 Ugh. Yeah. So he would black out from the pain and they would inject him with cocaine to wake him back up again. And then they would break another bone. They were breaking all of his bones with a hammer. They cut his hands off, cut his head off. They cut everything off. And then when they found, you know, this broken heap heap of a body he was somehow connected to this
Starting point is 01:32:07 guy that i knew who sold coke and uh this guy had gone to jail and uh i knew him before he went to jail he was another guy from taekwondo i knew him before he went to jail he was one person he was a young guy i was i think when he went to jail i was 16 and i think he was 20 and then when he got out of jail it was i was 20 and he was 24 and he had scars all over his body where he tried to uh like sand off his his tattoos he had tattoos all over his arms and i don't know what the tattoos were, whether they were racist or whether he just didn't want them anymore. But he had like either acid burns or scars, like whatever, however the fuck he tried to get the tattoos off all over his arms,
Starting point is 01:32:55 like his arms are covered in scars. And he wasn't good. He wasn't like a talented martial artist. But he was insanely tough. Like insanely aggressive and insanely tough. And when you sparred him, you were fighting for your life. For your life. He would come at me and try to fucking kill me. I mean fucking kill you. Throwing looping punches with every fucking ounce of his being. And I'm moving around and I'm like, oh, we're fighting to the death here.
Starting point is 01:33:29 We're fighting. This is not sparring. We only sparred a couple of times before this. But one time he had me cornered. He trapped me in a corner and hit me with a fucking bomb on the top of my head. Just boom, like as hard as he could punch. He was a strong guy. He was quite a bit bigger than me, too.
Starting point is 01:33:47 Irish guy? I think he was Italian. And I kicked him in the head so hard it broke his cheek. Like his cheek shifted over. Oh. His face, I wheel kicked him. So I hit him with my heel in his face and he dropped down he he collapsed went down to his like like went down like face first got up on his all fours got back up again
Starting point is 01:34:14 wanted to keep going i said i go richie i go you got to look in the mirror i go come look in the mirror and he's like oh fuck i go yeah you can't spar anymore dude he wanted to kill me he wanted to keep going he wanted to keep going after i basically kicked his face in half jesus i hit him so hard it wasn't a sparring session it was an i'm trying to kill you you're trying to kill me session and i remember setting him up setting him up setting him up boom and i hit him with that thing and he face planted most people would have just out. But he was so angry and so mean. He was trying to get up. It's fucking scary.
Starting point is 01:34:48 But that was the last time I sparred with him. I'm like, we're not sparring anymore, dude. I'm not fighting to death with some guy who I'm kind of friendly with. I was friendly with him other than that. Like, you would never guess. I remember one time we went out. It was me and him and these two girls. And they were, like, real weird, right?
Starting point is 01:35:05 And, you know, this one girl was like, you know, like, Richie, when are we going to get that stuff? I go, what stuff are you going to get? And he's like, and she's like, he's going to get us some coke. I go, you don't want any coke. She goes, fuck you. I was trying to tell her she doesn't want coke. She's like, that's why I'm here. That's why I'm hanging out with this guy, stupid.
Starting point is 01:35:28 That's so funny. Yeah, it was one of the rare times I hung out with him outside of the gym. He told me a story about how he had to fight off these guys with a broomstick in jail. And how he's beating these guys to death with a broomstick. There's a horrible story about him being forced to mop up something in a bathroom. And these guys cornered him. And he's just fucking attacking them with this broomstick. And about how he got extra time for that.
Starting point is 01:35:57 I forget what he went to jail for. I assume it was probably drug related. I don't remember what it was. But I remember just being so nervous about being connected to people like that like knowing people like that from the gym because there's people like that they were always they always wanted to learn how to fight so because you knew you know you're teaching martial arts you're training there's always those those guys would always come in whenever it was time to spar oh scary times there was no pulling back there was no like if
Starting point is 01:36:28 you were sparring with some friends like i was sparring with like my friend leroy rodriguez a good friend of mine who was fast as lightning this puerto rican guy was a bad motherfucker but he would not hurt me we would spar we would go hard but he would hold back from hurting you you know like you could trust certain people. When you were sparring, you knew it was just sparring. There was other people. It was to the death. Terrible.
Starting point is 01:36:53 Crazy. Not only that, we did it over a fucking thin office carpet on top of concrete. It was just office carpet on top of concrete. So when people would fall, their head would bounce off the concrete. Oh, fuck that. Yeah. It was horrible. Good Lord. That's the 80s, bro.
Starting point is 01:37:13 Shit was different. Jeez Louise. No good, man. It was so terrible. So terrible back then, man. People couldn't get concussions back then or something oh they got them yeah they got a lot of them yeah I remember people getting them when they were just fucked up for months and months at a time you
Starting point is 01:37:33 get it I mean you get that kind of a concussion when you bounce your head off the ground and then you know that just the impact of something like that. It's just so devastating, man. It's just so bad for you. There's a great video. Not great, but kind of crazy. If you go to Saxon Muay Thai on Instagram, there's a video of these two guys fighting in a parking lot. And one guy is obviously a trained fighter, and he's fighting these gangbangers.
Starting point is 01:38:10 And he leg kicks one of them and then punches him in the face. And this other guy is going, oh, you think you're going to kick homeboy? You think you're going to kick homeboy? And he goes, come on, kick me, motherfucker. And he takes a puff of his cigarette, and he takes his shirt off like he's going to fight. He has no idea how to fight. And he's decided he's going to fight. He has no idea how to fight. And he's decided he's going to fight this guy who knows how to fight. And this guy leg kicks him, drops him to the ground.
Starting point is 01:38:32 He gets up. The guy shoots a double, lifts his legs up in the air and drops him on his head. And he just goes out. Yeah. It's so – there's something about watching someone's head bounce off concrete that is so fucking disturbing. For sure. It's just sadder than anything else. Saxon Muay Thai.
Starting point is 01:38:54 You didn't see it? Maybe somebody pulled it. Let me see it. I once had a concussion in a... Let me see the page. Scroll down a little bit. Hold on. Go to the top again. Yep, that let me go scroll down a little bit hold on we'll go to the top
Starting point is 01:39:05 again yep that's it go scroll down a little bit yeah somebody must have pulled it i got a concussion in a wrestling match one time maybe i'm wrong maybe it wasn't saxon and i threw up rice crispy treats everywhere i was out i was unconscious and i was throwing up rice crispy treats because i loaded up on those after was unconscious, and I was throwing up Rice Krispie treats because I had loaded up on those after weigh-ins. The weigh-ins were like an hour before the match. I had a peanut butter and jelly. Back then, they had just debuted.
Starting point is 01:39:35 It was like a new thing, the pre-made, super-processed Rice Krispie treats that would just come in individual packages. After cutting know my weight cuts were horrible horrible horrible and uh so like i would just be eyeballing all this food all week you know what i mean and like i remember i'd be so excited whatever you had what you'd be so excited for and i was way too excited about this whole box of rice crispy treats that i had and i probably had like four or five right before the match and just boom out like a light.
Starting point is 01:40:09 Some dude got my head. Yeah. Some dude got my head wrapped up in his legs. Like it was, um, it was like a, like almost like a double chicken wing. Like he had,
Starting point is 01:40:19 he was, I, my chest was on the mat. I think he got me in double chicken wings and started to walk around my head so that I rolled over. But I'm really bridgey and agile and have a long neck that I can bridge up on. So when I bridged up on my neck
Starting point is 01:40:36 and he's just now, there's nothing he can do. He took his leg and swooped it and figure four'd my head. So now I'm in a figure four with my head and double chicken wings but then when once he did that i bridged up again the crowd i remember sort of being like oh you know what i mean like it's like you're not pinning me and then he did this thing where he just bucked back like a bull and my head just right into the mat out like out like a light i was taken off on a stretcher to the hospital.
Starting point is 01:41:06 That wrestling match. It's the only time that ever happened. How quick after that did you go back to wrestling? Oh, probably a week or two. Yeah, isn't that funny? Our assistant coach's son had just died. So that night was dedicated to him because he showed up. We weren't expecting him to be there.
Starting point is 01:41:24 How did his son die? It was like leukemia or something like that. And we weren't expecting him to be there. How did his son die? It was like leukemia or something like that. And we weren't expecting him to be there. And our head coach gave us one of those pep talks. Like, Coach Burton's coming tonight. And if he's coming after his son dies, then you motherfuckers better not give up. It was one of those super crazy like beyond all of our human potential Which is probably why I ended up in that position in the first place because I'm just bridging for everything including my assistant coaches Sun spirit and all of this, you know what I mean better not give up right? Oh, this is it
Starting point is 01:41:57 This is the video sent to me on that. Oh, here it is. It's on world. Oh, yeah He gets him with the leg kick. The guy gets up now watch this Watch this Boom strongly perfectly timed watch this watch this Out Go from the beginning though in the beginning you see it's long. It's two minutes long Yeah, but the beginning you see how the fight starts to this guy The guys are come on motherfucker. You want some of this get a shirt off and the guys like trying he's by himself
Starting point is 01:42:34 And he's like dough would do one-on-one one-on-one one-on-one. You fought another dude first Did he yeah? Yeah this guy this guy. This is the guy legs kicks and After he leg kicks this dude. This guy. This is the guy who legs kicks. And after he leg kicks this dude, the other guy says, come on. That dude doesn't have a wife beater on. Give me some volume on this. This is what's going to get taken down. Is he going to put a... Is it going to get taken down from YouTube?
Starting point is 01:42:57 I'm trying to keep it. Oh, okay, okay. You turned it down. So the guy's like, come on, man. So it's just one dude by himself with a bunch of other dudes. But he steps in. This guy knows how to fight look at this throwing a jab and then watch this leg kick oh So they're going out for quite a bit first whole different guy no no yeah, but that's it right there leg kick boom
Starting point is 01:43:18 Then he cracks him and so then the guys like realizing he's in trouble and so he starts backing away And the guys coming forward is like come on bitch And so then the other guy afterwards goes oh realizing he's in trouble, and so he starts backing away, and the guy's coming forward. He's like, come on, bitch. And so then the other guy afterwards goes, oh, you think you're going to leg kick? Going to leg kick? So he comes back. He's, like, tired of this dude walking away from him, and he's like, I fucked this dude up with one punch, and he wants to back up.
Starting point is 01:43:38 And so this guy goes, you want a leg kick? You want a leg kick? Here, right here. You want a leg kick? It's not a fight, dog. It's cool. You don't want a fucking kick? It's's cool. You don't want to fucking kick. You want to kick a boy? You want to kick a boy?
Starting point is 01:43:50 Watch, he takes a puff of his cigarette. Watch this. He's like, I'm going to try you. He takes a drag of his cigarette first and then takes his shirt off. Guy has no idea how to fight, which is hilarious. Fat, not in shape, boom, leg kick. Oh my god. But people are so ridiculous with this idea that they think they know how to fight, which is hilarious. Fat, not in shape, boom, leg kick. But people are so ridiculous with this idea that they think they know how to fight. Bang!
Starting point is 01:44:10 Out cold. But that's dark, man. The banging the head, the back of the head off the concrete is dark. Yeah, that's memory. He's gone that fast. That's a lot gone. A lot gone with your head. That's why I used to always get mad at those movies where people get pistol whipped.
Starting point is 01:44:26 And nothing would happen to them. Wake up like... Somebody who liked you would pistol whip you because they needed to shut your mouth. You could fucking die easily. Or like they're trying to get information out of them. Like, where's the money hidden? It's like, well, now I don't remember. And then when they would wake up, they'd have no problems.
Starting point is 01:44:47 They'd just be fighting. They'd have no problems, no coordination issues. Meanwhile, your equilibrium would be so fucked. Your legs wouldn't work right. Have you ever been knocked out other than that? Not really. No, I've been in a lot of fights, but I've never been knocked out. Only that wrestling match did it.
Starting point is 01:45:09 When you find out how vulnerable you are, the human brain, the way it's positioned in the head, all it has to do is get hit and yanked around. I think I have what they would call a good chin. You think so? I've taken some real puns. At least when I mean I was younger. think I have what they would call a good chin you think so? I've taken some fucking I've taken some real pun at least when I mean I was younger it's been a long time
Starting point is 01:45:29 actually I took a good fucking solid headbutt about 10 years ago from one of my drunk comedian buddies oh god yeah there's a great video of this girl headbutting this guy unconscious
Starting point is 01:45:43 outside of a bar you probably won't be able to find it but some guys fuck him with her and she's not big Yeah. There's a great video of this girl headbutting this guy unconscious outside of a bar. You probably won't be able to find it. But some guy is fucking with her, and she's not big. She's pretty small. And she grabs this guy by the collar and just bang! And the dude just crumples and drops to the ground. Fucking awesome.
Starting point is 01:46:00 It's a real move, man. This part right here. Oh, hell yeah. This is where people break their hands. They break their hands on the top of the forehead forehead all the time it's a super hard spot and if you smash someone on the jaw with that or on the that's one move that a chick actually can pull off if she really knows how to do it grab someone's shirt and bang yeah hell yeah i've i've headbutted people have you yeah i've never headbutted anybody really yeah you? Yeah. I've never head-butted anybody in my whole life. Yeah. Oh, I've had to because, you know, I mean, where I grew up, it was just fights, fights, fights.
Starting point is 01:46:31 That was just the whole thing. Youngstown, Ohio. You're damn right. Everybody was a boxer. That's why all the boxers. Were you with me when Kelly Pavlik showed up? Yeah. That was awesome.
Starting point is 01:46:40 Right? We all went out to dinner. Yeah. Matt Brown, too. Bunch of Ohioans. How cool is hanging out with Kelly Pavlik? Dude, for someone from Youngstown, that's as cool as it gets. I've hung out with Boom Boom.
Starting point is 01:46:49 I had to knock out Kelly for the trifecta, and that was amazing. We had a spread the size of this table. That wasn't just any meal. That was everything. It's like, what do you want? Because everything's on the table right now. Yeah, we ate a lot of good food. That was fun.
Starting point is 01:47:04 That was after the Schottenstein, right? Wow. Schot good food. That was fun. That was after the Schottenstein, right? Wow. Schottenstein? Is that it right? Schottenstein. That was fun, man. That was a fun show. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:12 Only show I've ever worn a football jersey on stage. That was awesome. That was so cool. I fucking love Ohio. I love Columbus. Columbus is the anti-Connecticut. Absolutely. 100%.
Starting point is 01:47:25 It's fun there, man. The opposite of Connecticut. I mean, people from Connecticut are like, why would I move to Columbus? Just trust me. Like, if I would have done that same show that I did in Connecticut in Columbus and there was a lady that looked that angry in the audience, one face looking at me, and I said, what are you so angry about? She would answer the question.
Starting point is 01:47:44 Yeah. Yeah. She would tell you. Yeah, you so angry about? She would answer the question. Yeah, yeah. She would tell you. Yeah, you shouldn't have said that about the me too. And then at least I'd be able to really, we'd go back and forth and I'd win her over. But in Connecticut, they just stay staunch. Oh, that's young Jamie's photograph. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:59 Young Jamie, photographer extraordinaire. Number 18 for the Ohio State Buckeyes. Woo wee. So what's going on with young tony hinchcliffe's career what's the latest i know you've been killing it with kill tony kill tony's on a whole nother level i've heard we're having a lot of fun it's a blast we're taking them all over the road the road shows are insane i heard that toronto was insane absolutely insane absolutely insane we just did two shows in one night in san francisco kill tony mania where'd you guys go chaos cobs ah two shows
Starting point is 01:48:33 in one night on a friday night insanity the shows at home are crazy we have whitney cummings on monday we have this new cool thing called the apollo 13 which is uh which is this group of black people that come every Monday. Like really basically like if any open mic or ever does like two racist of a joke or if it's on the line or whatever, they're like the judges, like I'll like point to them and it's like, uh, it's so funny. We call them the Apollo 13. Cause I said that they're like, yeah, it's like they even have shirts made.
Starting point is 01:49:03 That's three of the members right there. I love how you're always adding new elements and always mixing it up. It is one of the best live podcast formats ever because it's so chaotic and you're guaranteed to either get good comedy or terrible comedy, which equals great comedy. Just to show you a span, this past Monday,
Starting point is 01:49:25 we started the show off with a former reality star that was horrible, right? He wasn't funny. He's been doing it 14 years, but he doesn't put any work into it, no work ethic. You know what I mean? So it's like we roasted him, and the crowd loves it because he's such an easily hateable guy.
Starting point is 01:49:43 And the last guy we pull out of the bucket comes out of the audience area with uh with wearing shorts and one of his legs is uh is amputated he has uh he has like a prosthetic yeah prosthetic leg and he talks about how he nearly died six months ago in a motorcycle accident and he's a huge kill tony fan and this is his first time doing stand-up this we find this out after he has a decent set for a minute. It's his first time ever doing stand-up. The show keeps him from being depressed and all. You know what I mean? So this wide span is what helps make it refillable, like what you were saying.
Starting point is 01:50:19 It's just so cool because we're basically, when it comes to that PC stuff that we were talking about earlier, like I don't know if there's many places where the vent for that, where you can get a real barometer. Because look, we have the Apollo 13, which they're called the Apollo 13 because it's like Showtime at the Apollo. But there's like 13 of them. So I call it the Apollo 13, this group of black people. So like, for example, a few weeks weeks ago this one kid like we it doesn't even seem like he's 21 closes on this horrible joke about kanye what somebody needs to throw kanye a banana or something like that in the whole place the whole place is in chaos groaning
Starting point is 01:50:58 and the apollo 13 standing up like oh hell no and it's like, you know, since it's such a live show, that's sort of like, you know, if you make a racist joke that's not funny, you're going to die, dude. You know what I mean? Like, that's the worst type of, you know, so it's since there's a real live comedy crowd, you get a real good barometer for what's going on, and it makes it more exciting. It's just so, so fun what we're doing. Keeping it refillable, like what you said. Finding new ways to tweak it here and there. Every time I go, I do it once every six months or something. It's always a new element.
Starting point is 01:51:38 There's always something new. And the fact that the background guys like Jeremiah and all those guys change outfits all the time. And they're constantly doing new things. It's just a ridiculous show. And that's the king. Don Marrera is the fucking king. He is so good at that shit. Oh my god.
Starting point is 01:51:55 Everybody's smiling but Red Band. Look at him. He's all sad. So serious. Someone stole his dog. Fuck. Don Marrera is the king of that shit though. He really is. He's so good at it.
Starting point is 01:52:04 He really is He's so good at it He really is He said You know He did it He did this thing a couple weeks ago Where he said to a guy He's like I like how you don't try to do that whole funny thing
Starting point is 01:52:13 You know Everybody else tries these punchlines These comedy things Not you Different path altogether He's so great at that He just says it like He's giving a big compliment
Starting point is 01:52:23 Well it's the new thing It's the Hannah Gadsby path? Oh, yeah. A lot of people are doing anti-comedy. Catch up, Tony. Yeah, I guess I will. Fucking cisgendered white male piece of shit. I'm the bad guy.
Starting point is 01:52:36 Yep. But yeah, just doing a lot of stand up ramping up to hopefully make another special soon. And I feel good about things. So we'll see what happens. Life is good. I'm pumped. Beautiful. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:52:48 Good to hear. It's going to be a naughty special when and if it happens. Naughty? It's not going to be like Nanette. You're going to be naughty? Yeah. Hmm.
Starting point is 01:52:57 We're going to talk about some things. Are you planning on being naughty or are you just naughty all the time? It's modern day naughtiness, man. Late night naughtiness. Built in the darkness of the comedy store. I think this is a good time for comedy. Like a lot of people are complaining about comedy right now.
Starting point is 01:53:12 They think somehow or another this is a bad time for comedy. But Ari Shaffir said it best. He said, you know what's good about comedy right now? Comedy's dangerous. Yeah. There's real consequences to saying fucked up things. Oh, I agree 100%. And it makes us, some comedians are leaning towards it, right? Like, I don't want to talk about that.
Starting point is 01:53:32 I don't want to talk about that. I don't want to talk about that. And they're losing the fun because all of a sudden I get up there. You know what I mean? You have the whole, all of a sudden you're touching the untouchable. Yes. Ari is exactly right. It's also, there's fun in explaining yourself.
Starting point is 01:53:49 There's fun in navigating the waters. Right. Like this, one of the things that I've made sure that I did, I thought very, I thought out very thoroughly when I did Strange Times, that my last special, I wanted to make sure I really thought out how I can pull these bits off and how I can make them like you Doug Stanhope said it best he said he looks at his material like a defense attorney like as if he's defending his material like that's a great way to look at it I look at my material like I'm a hater like if I was a hater how would I poke fun at that
Starting point is 01:54:22 if I was someone who's looking to be offended how would i so get that out of the way like there was some bits that i did in the last one in triggered that i changed a lot of what they were from the beginning to when i put them on film because of the way audience members were reacting i was like well clearly i'm having a problem with this where they're not i i'm not even getting to the switch. I'm not getting to the misdirect because they're upset before I get to the misdirect. I'm not – it'll be fine if they let me get to the end, but sometimes they would heckle or they would get upset like one lady at the comedy store. I had to explain to her twice. I go, listen, I'm saying it like this because I'm going to shit on myself afterwards.
Starting point is 01:55:04 This is what I'm saying. And this is what it was a bit about. You remember that bit I used to do about women can do everything men can do? That's not true because men can't do everything some men can do. That's why we have the Olympics. Like the idea that everybody could do everything. That's ridiculous. Because it was about the woman who guarded the White House.
Starting point is 01:55:24 Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I was like, I can't guard the White House. Do you know how I know? that's ridiculous because it was about the woman who guarded the white house oh yeah yeah yeah i was like i can't guard the white house do you know how i know because i met shaquille o'neal and his dick is where my face is and i had explained to her like this is see this is where i was gonna go with it if the white house is experiencing a shack attack i'm the last guy to save the earth right okay he's just too fucking big you know and i i would explain i was trying to get to this but i was this lady was getting upset at me before i was so i had to think i was like okay if there's a drunk dummy
Starting point is 01:55:51 how do i keep the drunk dummy from popping off before i get to the misdirect like so i had to restructure things and i had to figure out a way to make it so that it's clear and like you um you just have to you just have to navigate the waters more carefully. But you can still get just as much juice out of it, just as much comedy and just as much shit that's forbidden, just as many taboo topics. It's just you have to be really clear. You have to have good writing.
Starting point is 01:56:22 That's what's great about doing the clubs on the road before necessarily doing bigger venues or whatever. Because you really can feel them. You feel where those moments are. Sometimes in a bigger venue, you're sort of taking a gamble. You know what's going to get a laugh and not a laugh. But you can't really feel they're like You don't develop material in a big club right and well. It's like a 10,000 seat room
Starting point is 01:56:50 You don't develop material and like Air Canada Center the you know the Scotiabank arena that we went to yeah You don't develop any material there. You better have that shit solid. Yeah, you can't even have it memorized It has to be part of your, better than anything. You have to know it better than you know anything. But like, what is it? The Funny Bone in Columbus? Yeah. That place.
Starting point is 01:57:13 You develop material there. Comedy Works Denver. Yeah. You develop material there. You develop material in clubs. Yeah. You have to have both. I firmly believe that those guys who just do big places and they only play to their audiences,
Starting point is 01:57:26 they're fucking themselves. Totally. It's like an athlete that doesn't strength train. Or it's like, you know, someone who doesn't, they work out but they don't watch their diet. It's like, man, if you want the best results, you've got to do the whole thing. They're out of touch. I mean, you've got to do the whole thing. Those people, let's just, I mean, I don't wanna name any names.
Starting point is 01:57:46 Say it. No, no, no. I mean, but let's just say a guy that's super duper famous goes to a theater, you know, one of those big legends. What they don't do is they don't experiment not being funny. What they should do is they should have a secret five minute experimental bit buried in their set that's purposely, nothing funny about it and run it. And when they hear those laughs, that's when they'll realize, like, oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:58:13 Oh, shit. They're laughing no matter what because I have them trained. Is that true? If it's their fans and their dumb comedy fans. I don't think they're going to laugh at things that aren't funny, but I think they're going to laugh harder at things that aren't as good. I think they're going to want... Like, I went to see a comic. I'm not going to name any names.
Starting point is 01:58:30 Me and Joey Diaz went to see him because we were playing in the place the next night. Yeah. And it was one of those situations where someone was doing their material for their audience and you could tell they hadn't been working out in the clubs. You could just see it. Yeah. And the people wanted to laugh they wanted to laugh they were there
Starting point is 01:58:48 there were fans and they were with it that's the difference between that and say a set at the store when it's 11 p.m on a tuesday night when they've already seen you and joey diaz and ari and all these other killers like you gotta be funny. Actually funny. It doesn't matter if you're some fill in the name. Whatever fucking superstar. You have to actually be funny. They give you a minute or two to get settled in on stage.
Starting point is 01:59:15 They're clapping. They're excited to see you. Come with the fucking jokes. Barely do they give you a minute. Really, they really do. It's really really truly 30 seconds especially in the or it really is it really is i it's so hard to recover from a spin out so much easier to start strong and take chances and fizzle out than it is to not start off on the right foot
Starting point is 01:59:40 and get them going it's also because they're right on top of you in the OR. They're right there. I mean, you could just high-five them. And they know. At that point, they know what's going on. They know you better get to it. They've already seen six of their favorite new comedians. They're already waiting to Google the lineup after they go home. They're like, oh, my God, this is crazy.
Starting point is 02:00:05 And they know what the blue light in the corner means all of a sudden. They're like, oh, this guy's got three more minutes. He better fucking stick that landing. They're not that dumb. It takes what? Seeing two or three comedians in the original room, which is only 45 minutes before you're trained and you know everything that's going on.
Starting point is 02:00:22 Oh, here comes the piano guy. Oh, there goes the light. You see the piano guy walking to his seat. Exactly. Here he comes. Exactly. The weirdest place is the belly room. That's the weirdest room.
Starting point is 02:00:33 I fucking love that room. That room's so weird. The birthplace of Kill Tony. That's another thing that makes Kill Tony fun is it's like it was totally just, it was a belly room baby. And now you see this big man like having killed Tony Mania. I drove a van of 14 people up there.
Starting point is 02:00:51 I saw a big giant picture up from Instagram. It was one of the coolest things. I can't remember who I was talking to last night. But I said, yeah. And I said it was the coolest 24 hours of my life because I picked everybody up at the comedy store. I go be at the comedy store 9 a.m. Friday morning. I'm going to pick you up and I'm driving everybody back that night.
Starting point is 02:01:10 And I literally did. I went and rented this big, cool, badass fucking luxury van. So you did two shows in San Francisco and then you drove back that night? Hell yes. What time did you get home? I think it was 7 or 8. Actually, it was like 8 a.m.
Starting point is 02:01:25 How did you stay awake? First of all, after I killed Tony, I'm a freak for like three or four hours, so I knew that. So I'm like, that's going to be easy. And I was because like adrenaline, like hosting adrenaline, like I'm crazy about that show. So it's like so much. Like I'm looking at where Red Band's fingers are. I'm trying to get the guest involved. I'm thinking moves ahead the whole time.
Starting point is 02:01:50 I'm super wired. So I knew I really just needed to survive the last two hours. And it was awesome, man. Hot coffee, beef jerky, cold sugar-free Red Bull is enough for me. My body was like, what the fuck are you doing when I got home? Did you do a set Saturday night anywhere? You're damn motherfucking right. Main room, baby.
Starting point is 02:02:12 I slept from 11am to like 6.30. That's awesome. It was so cool. That's awesome. But the really cool thing, as cheesy as this is going to sound, is like taking those 14 people, all with different backstories, all from different years and different amounts of appearances. You know, Sarah Weinshank and Ali Makovsky were regulars over the different years at different times that all the fans know from seeing them each a hundred times on a hundred different episodes.
Starting point is 02:02:42 And this guy and this guy and this guy and this guy and the band and everybody was just on fire we met some of the best and worst people you can imagine in all of san francisco in the history of the 303 episodes of the show there's only been one guy that ever walked off the stage angrily that couldn't handle the heat that happened in san francisco like two and a half years ago the same guy we didn't we didn't realize until he did it again that it was the same guy he walked off i go you know the only other time that anyone's ever walked off in kill tony history was here in san francisco and the crowd goes and like 10, 15, 20 people stand up and literally go, that was the same guy. I'm like, that was the same guy.
Starting point is 02:03:30 That was the same guy. I mean, the, the, the energy of the show and the fans and everything, man, it's like so cool. But yeah, I can't remember what made me get on this, but I drove everybody there and back and it made it like such like a, I was like, I was like the dad for a for a day you know what i mean like i bought everybody in and out on the way up there like it was so cool everybody's just so happy that van strawberry shakes that van is hilarious that's the second row there so like uh it's me and uh ali mckoski in the front on this picture john reap in the back oh that's william montgomery and he's coming for
Starting point is 02:04:05 everybody's jobs that's that guy that guy is a genius he's like andy kaufman meets a fucking tennessee trucker he's coming for everybody's gonna know who that guy is eventually he's been doing it 11 years out of memphis tennessee and he just got here a few months ago, and he's just an improv guru. He just goes. He bullshits. You can ask him anything, and he's literally got that comedy twitch muscle where he just riffs, and it's the dumbest shit and the most glorious shit at the same time. So this is the second row.
Starting point is 02:04:40 So you're ahead in the front here driving while Watkins takes his picture. You got Aphrodite taking a nap. Look at that fro. Second row from the back. Ryan J.E. Belt, the house artist. You got Josh who decided to sit in the middle, the continuous grump. He gets motion sickness. Does he?
Starting point is 02:04:56 And he didn't sit next to a window for some reason. So that's a genuine frown on his face. Mikey McKernan in the back left. I mean, all these people did amazing things. It was just so incredible. George and Christian slinging merch at the front. I just love grassroots created shows like that where it just started out as nothing
Starting point is 02:05:18 and then it became what it is now. I just love shit like that. I love when people have an idea and they stick with it. When are you going to start doing the Golden Pony Hour again, speaking of which? Probably actually really soon. I just got to do it. I have to figure out whether I want to do it at the comedy store or not, though, because it seems like, I don't know. Why not?
Starting point is 02:05:41 You're really good with live audiences like that, off the cuff. Why not have a show like that and do it in the belly room do it on an off night in the belly room you know you did one monday night you were doing monday night yeah find another like off time 10 p.m especially if you do it late night like some weird late night show yeah i think you're right actually that might be the move yeah i think i need to do it in front of a live audience. It's your forte. Yeah. I mean, you're great at that kind of stuff.
Starting point is 02:06:06 Yeah. And to do it in a small, intimate room like the Belly Room and to build it back up, you can get a logo and a big sign behind you, the Golden Pony Hour. Yeah. Maybe a gold suit. Maybe you do every show with a gold suit on. I like the way you're talking now. I'm telling you.
Starting point is 02:06:21 Right? I can fulfill the prophecy. The prophecy. What is the prophecy be the mastermind remember the mastermind no the pro wrestling manager the guy that writes everything and executes it you could do something like that like have a cool backdrop you know like some sort of a simple portable backdrop look at that oh hell oh come $40. It's for the cutout. Oh, that's a star stand-up. Like, the suit's only $40?
Starting point is 02:06:48 What's it made out of? See if you can find one of them suits. Gold leather. What is that word, lame? What does that word mean? L-A-M-E? I've seen that word before, and it's one of those words I never bothered to look up. Lame.
Starting point is 02:07:02 Ah! You said lame! I don't know how to get that E up. Lame? You said lame! What does it mean? Lame suit. Just type in suit. Unable to walk normally. No, that's lame, bro. Oh, it does say that. Well, I typed in the
Starting point is 02:07:21 fabric. Oh, it's a type of fabric. There it is. Lame is a type of fabric woven or knit with thin ribbons of metallic fiber. Oh, yeah. That's your shit. A fucking gold La May suit, dude. That's what I'm going to get. Hold on.
Starting point is 02:07:39 Type in gold La May suit. Here we go, baby. Oh, $1,200 jacket. Let me see. No, we need to get some custom-made shit. That's what we need to do. If I hired someone to build you a suit... Yes.
Starting point is 02:07:55 Would you... Yeah? I'd wear the shit out of it. All right. You kidding me? There's someone out... That shit was... That's ridiculous.
Starting point is 02:08:01 That one's a little ridiculous. Isn't it? I don't know. Any old iron sequined suit. I mean... That's sequined, though. There's, like, silver in there. That shit's gonna get in your fucking clothes and stuff.
Starting point is 02:08:15 It'll get in the washing machine. This looks like a Tony suit. I think you need to get someone to make you one of them. I think we need to hire, like... Jamie, come on. A bodysuit? What does it say? It's a ninja suit? It's, yeah, a bodysuit. What does it say? It's a ninja suit?
Starting point is 02:08:26 It's, yeah, a spandex. Oh, those poor cosplay people. Oh, jeez. Yeah. We need to get something to make you one. Yeah, it needs to be, like, tailored properly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's got to fit you.
Starting point is 02:08:38 We need to get David August. That's the company that makes, they make Conor McGregor suits. They make my suits for the UFC Really? Yeah Oh, hell yeah I can't wear regular suits I'm not built like a normal person So, look at that
Starting point is 02:08:53 She's wearing one Hot bitch Woo! Damn Yeah, okay So we're gonna do that I'm gonna hire David August To make you a gold LeMay suit
Starting point is 02:09:02 That fits you perfectly Yes And this will be the launch. And you've heard about it here, folks. The launch of the Golden Pony Hour. Live from the Comedy Store Wednesday nights. Live from the Comedy Store in the Belly Room. Midnight. You could buy Elvis a suit.
Starting point is 02:09:15 No, I don't want to buy Elvis a suit. He's been farting in it. Taking pills. It's probably pills in that pocket that'll kill you right now. Elton John. Elton John. Billy Joel and Elton John staying all together again all right um yeah so we'll do it and dude uh i gotta finish my fucking act so we can get on the road again yeah i'm excited what is it now it's october 31st tomorrow's the first i'm gonna start doing mushrooms immediately and uh i'm looking. I have 35 minutes now.
Starting point is 02:09:45 35 minutes. I've timed it out. 35 new minutes. I can actually do 30. I could do a 35-minute set. I did a 35-minute set. I'm looking at January. January, start booking dates.
Starting point is 02:09:58 I love it. You're going to start booking in January or booking for? Booking for January. So November, stay in LA. December, stay in LA. December, stay in LA. January, maybe we do like the Comedy Works in Denver in the fucking dead of winter. What?
Starting point is 02:10:15 I think I'm going to London for the first time in the middle of February. Oh, shit. You'll love it out there. Yeah. They're very polite. Do you remember the first time that we did Stockholm and you thought that you weren't doing well because they're very polite in between sets? And I had to say, no, no, no. They listen.
Starting point is 02:10:29 They were laughing. You're like, I felt like a bomb. By the way, I didn't believe you. I had to ask everybody around me that like security. Like I was I could not. I took what you said. Like I believed you, but I didn't really believe you. Like I thought you were just being I thought you were thought you were being nice like it's like oh he's trying to give me a pep talk like oh you did never do that right no just know that i know shit i'd tell you dude you could do better i know but
Starting point is 02:10:56 i know you wouldn't do that that's why it was crazy to me because i'm like either the either the world is different over here on the other side of the world, or they're fucking with me. Two things to take into consideration. One, it's their second language. So it's basically, it's a novelty. They're going out to see comedy, which is a novelty. I'm sure there are Swedish comedians, but I'm sure the timing and the language is just very different. Going from, you know, Swedish-style comedy to American-style comedy.
Starting point is 02:11:24 But they're just really polite so they would they would laugh and then they would stop and they would listen and you're like it just felt like dead in between the bits i'm like i'm telling you man you did great but then you saw it when they were doing it for my set yeah and you're like oh that's how they really are i go yeah i go but they had a great time. But they laugh, but there's not like all this chatter in between the jokes. They wait, and then they're laughing again. They're laughing again. But then your second set, we did two shows that night.
Starting point is 02:11:54 You came out, and you were comfortable. Yeah. You were fun. Because I embraced it. I stayed in the pocket instead of being like, what's going on? Well, they are that way in England as well. In England, they really appreciate the craft. They really appreciate stand-up comedy.
Starting point is 02:12:08 And they really appreciate it as a show. They're extremely polite when they watch shows. I really enjoy performing there. I like it a lot. I haven't been there in a while, and I know I should go back. And I will, I promise. But the last time I was there, I was like, man, they're intelligent. They're polite.
Starting point is 02:12:25 Like, the way they watch a show. Like, they go to see a show, you know? That place is great. Manchester's great. London's great. Newcastle. I did a lot of places in England. I had a good time.
Starting point is 02:12:37 You know what else is fucking great but in a different way? Wild? Dublin. You got to do Dublin. Dublin's chaos. Yeah, I want to go over there. But you You gotta do Dublin. Dublin's chaos. Yeah, I wanna go over there. But you gotta get drunk. Have they done a UFC there?
Starting point is 02:12:50 Yeah, they've done UFCs there. Sure. Has Conor fought there? I'm sure. I don't know if there's been a UFC in Dublin while he was huge though. I don't know. That's a good question. Because they were gonna do like a soccer stadium in Dublin while he was huge, though?
Starting point is 02:13:06 I don't know. That's a good question. Because they were going to do like a soccer stadium over there. When was the last time Conor fought in Dublin? I don't know, man. It seems like that would make sense. Yeah. Was it Cage Wars?
Starting point is 02:13:23 No, he did fight one UFC fight against Brandao. Oh, Diego Brandao. That was like his first, second fight. Yeah, okay. Maybe his third, technically. Yeah, so I think his, yeah. Yeah. His first one was in Stockholm, then Boston, then Dublin. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 02:13:33 And then every other one was in Vegas. Okay, that makes sense. Except for two. Yeah, now, though, Jesus Christ, that guy can't even walk in Dublin. That guy can't go anywhere. Ooh, that's something that we're about to do together. We're going to go to Toronto. Oh, yeah, your girl's fighting.
Starting point is 02:13:48 My girl's fighting. Guess who's undefeated with me next to the octagon? Yonah and J-Jack. Damn right. Guess who's about to be. Remember when she got that strawweight championship,
Starting point is 02:13:58 what'd she do? She ran out of the octagon, came and took a picture with Tony. And she tongue-kissed you. That's right. Didn't she? Yes.
Starting point is 02:14:04 Yeah, she reached into your pants and grabbed your malook stick yep and i believe that's what's gonna happen again no she didn't do any of those things folks we're just joking yeah we're kidding but she did jump out of the octagon and take a picture with well no that's a different one i punch you in the face and you do nothing that that what that right there. Again and again and again and again. Bottom right. Yep. Right there? Boom. Yeah, that's kind of it. Oh yeah, she did.
Starting point is 02:14:32 She ran right out. She came out and she pointed at me and goes, come over here. Look at that, with her belt on. Yep. That is hilarious. Yeah, it's a tough fight, man. She's fighting Valentina Shevchenko. Valentina's a fucking murderer, man. She is a monster. Yeah, it's a tough fight, man. She's fighting Valentina Shevchenko. Valentina's a fucking murderer, man. She is a monster.
Starting point is 02:14:47 However, I think not having to cut that extra 10 pounds is going to give Ioana a lot of pop and a lot of extra energy. And we're going to see the old Ioana. You know what I mean? Rose had her number, technically. But that's the only person we've ever seen have her number. Yeah, she absolutely struggles to make 115 pounds. Absolutely, undeniably. It's an agonizing weight cut for her.
Starting point is 02:15:11 I think it'd be better for her. They have fought before, you know. They fought two or three times in Muay Thai, and Valentina's won all the fights. Yeah. Valentina's a beast, man. And she's bigger. Valentina's coming down from 135 to 125. But I like it.
Starting point is 02:15:29 It's probably one of the more technical female MMA fights you're ever going to see. Yeah. In terms of, like, you know, you want to be in world champion Muay Thai fighter. Valentina being, you know, at that same level. They're just both super, super technical. I'm pumped. That's going to be fun yeah i'm gonna hang out in toronto hell yeah all right let's wrap this fucking thing up so rocktober it's
Starting point is 02:15:51 been a good time it's over let me see the the standings see if anybody made a wild push today to try to is it does it end at midnight east coast or west coast do you guys have have you said that east coast because uh also it ends in six hours going on with my fucking phone end at midnight East Coast or West Coast? Have you set that? Yeah, East Coast. Also, it ends in six hours. What's going on with my fucking phone? Six and a half hours. It won't let me open the phone. Oh, great new bug, Apple. Stuck in the notifications.
Starting point is 02:16:15 Notifications? Stuck in it. The clock hasn't even shown up. Look at that. Wonderful. Close it and then try it again. Wonderful new bug. What's up with that bug? That's fucking terrible. Oh, it's doing it again. Wonderful. Wonderful new bug. Yeah, but what's up with that bug? That's fucking terrible. Oh, it's doing it again. They had a button you could press. Wonderful.
Starting point is 02:16:27 Wonderful new bug. That's crazy. You fucking piece of shit. Good night, everybody. Get that ready. What a fucking stupid bug. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye.

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