The Joe Rogan Experience - #1224 - Adam Greentree

Episode Date: January 14, 2019

Adam Greentree is a bowhunter and photographer from Australia. He also hosts his own podcast called “Bowhunter’s Life."

three two one all the way from down under how are you brother what's going on good good to see you again man hell yeah you're on a wild magical mystery tour of the united states of america here it's been amazing with your kids you cute little kids yeah they're cute they're not your own they're my adorable i love Am I adorable? I love kids. But you're taking them too. You took everybody. You're here for how many months? Five months.

You moving? Tired of Australia? No, hell no. Just a big trip. No, it's better over here. It is. I love America. It's awesome.

Can't say that. They won't let you back in. Yeah, probably not. They're very different you know but the american landscape how unique the landscape is you know from the rocky mountains you know to the desert it's just insane does australia have any mountains yeah heaps yeah everyone thinks australia is just like this fucking flat piece of sand yeah yeah but it's not there's heaps there's heaps of mountain ranges and shit really yeah yeah how tall do they get um i don't

know the height but they're up there like a real mountain like rocky mountain like a real mountain like rocky mountain yeah really yeah wow dude let me tell you something your 28 days that you did in the rocky mountains out here that we put on instagram you know that we're promoting it constantly that was like one of the most talked about, like every, I got calls from all my friends. Bert Kreischer was fucking obsessed with you. He wouldn't stop calling me about it. He's like, the fucking guy's by himself. The video with him with the grizzly bear

and he's pointing the gun at it. Jesus Christ. The fucking weirdest thing is it's, that's normal shit. It is. That's very normal. But society's so removed from it now. Well, if you're out there, it's normal to get false charged by a grizzly bear. You're living with nature, yeah. It's one good reason

to not fucking be out there. I was talking with Kim about this. We hiked into the back of Montana to the spot that's usually got a bunch of grizzly bears that I go to. And we were talking about you, how you won't come out to Australiaralia hunting you're just scared of everything the difference is when you're walking around the mountains here it can happen at any point because fucking grizzly bears have got feet they walk on land in australia you pretty much have to go into the water so you're only worried about that when you go to collect water or you're thinking about having a wash or something here it's full time for whatever reason it doesn't bother me as much to get killed and eaten by a bear than it does a giant saltwater crocodile i reckon the crocodile would be nicer what yeah it'd be

nicer it'd like grab you drag you down you'd drown anyway you know and then it would do what it wants with you a grizzly bear is going to fucking maul you scratch your face off bite your neck take chunks out of you it's going to be longer dude yeah but it's american we don't want no foreign shit yeah i ain't fucking no foreign is eating me uh there's something about uh grizzly bears that's the most terrifying things that they just eat you they don't kill you first. They just hold you down and start eating you. Yeah, yeah. They treat you the same way they treat a salmon.

You know, when you see them hold down a salmon and they take big bites out of it, they don't make sure they kill that salmon. There's no nice thought behind it. You know, it's like, yeah, I'll finish it off first and then. No. Did you see the mountain lion that I ended up hunting when I was out here? Yes, I did, yeah. And, like, mountain lions usually kill their prey,

but it obviously grabbed the calf and it was eating this calf while it was still alive, like a beef cow calf. ended up hunting yes i did yeah and like mountain lions usually kill their prey but obviously grab the calf and it was eating this calf while it was still alive like a beef cow calf yeah i saw the video yeah pretty disturbing and then i seen one not long ago someone shared with me with a mountain lion dragon a mule deer down it's like chomping on this mule deer before it actually dies you know and it's like there's just not that thought process there there's not that human you know as long as they make sure that they have it as a meal and it's not going anywhere they'll just start eating done yeah yeah wolves do the same thing some friends uh were elk hunting and they came across this elk who uh these wolves had torn the back legs apart and were uh it was in the river and the wolves were eating it

while it was in the river and the thing was moaning and screaming it couldn't go anywhere yeah bull elk yeah in the in the water and they just pretty pretty horrible for us but you know you don't give a fuck standard for them yeah it's uh have you encountered any wolves when you're out there yeah plenty of times yeah the first time i went to canada was northwest territories and there was a pack of wolves that they were chasing a caribou bull and they pretty much chased this thing to like a lava or sweat you know like the this is in winter so the bull the caribou bull got really hot and they chased it into the freezing cold river and they sort of surrounded it in the river.

And then they just left it and they walked off, you know, and it wasn't that they were walking away from their kill. They knew the job was done. The wolves went back up high and they got onto these rocky benches and sat in the sun and were like drying out themselves and cooling down and drying out. And this caribou never left the river. It was like just quivering in the river. And then that afternoon when we come back, that caribou was just a carcass with like flesh hanging off the ribs on the side of the river. So they come back down once the river had done its job.

Wow. Smart as hell, eh? That's really crazy that they're that intelligent, that they know it's over. They're like, oh, okay, he's in the water. He's in the water. We can chill now. Let's go dry off.

Yeah. That is bananas. Yeah, crazy, eh? They're like, oh, okay, he's in the water. He's in the water. We can chill now. Let's go dry off. Yeah. That is bananas. Yeah, crazy eyes. They're so wise. People that I know that have seen them in the forest say they look at you a different way. Yeah. They look at you. There's a way they look through you.

They look at you in a way like almost like they think that that's the reason why the myth of the werewolf exists. Is that people that have these terrifying encounters with wolves, they swear that it's part human. Yeah, like peers and into you. Yeah, they're looking into you. They're figuring you out, you know. You've got to think what it would be like if you're just out there, you know, if you're lucky, live five years old, right?

You get this hard scrabble life out there chasing much larger animals than you, and you've got to kill them with your face yeah make it happen or die yeah crazy i had a pack of like 30 wolves this last trip that i was in bc and they kept coming around camp we had horses and that in camp and um one day i ventured out to try and get onto them and get a better look at them and they just without seeing me they just kept this perfect range, you know, like they'd howl back to me. I was trying to call them in.

I was howling. They'd howl back to me and they'd just keep this perfect range. And you could tell the whole time they were communicating because there'd be another wolf or a couple of wolves that were like a couple of miles in the other direction and you could hear them moving the same pattern that the rest of these wolves were. And I got eyes on them from a

distance they walked across a nice lake and other than that i never really seen them but i guarantee you those wolves looked at me a bunch of times like they're just a different hunter dude yeah they're probably just trying to figure out what they can do with you yeah such a such an eerie feeling too so it's like snow and it's like way in the back country of British Columbia. And like I'm going up on these mountains, it's like big pine trees and everything like that and just every direction around you howling, dude. You'd hear them howling.

You'd hear them do – it sounds like a bark. It's not. It's like this short howl. And then every now and then you'd hear one howl different and you could tell that that was the alpha. Just the sound that it was letting out, dude, was like eerie. Awesome place to be if you're in the nature, like crazy place to be. If you're not into nature, fucking your nightmare.

Like, yeah. Well, the thing about them that's so fascinating about them is they're cooperative and they almost are, they know what to do without without even communicating they know what to do they have plans and strategies they know how to how to box someone in and circle around like if an animal is running in a certain direction they get out in front of it they know what to do they know what to do yeah so they end up being a set of caribou tracks that i end up getting onto and following and every wolf track was a certain you know section apart from that and they'll funnel it into this big drainage i had to end up returning back

to camp because it was getting dark but i would have loved to have kept following and seeing if i actually like they're efficient yeah good chance they end up catching that caribou you know and killing it yeah well it's it's really interesting seeing them adapt to once in 1994 when they got reintroduced to Yellowstone, seeing them readapt to the whole West and really expand and take it over. Just dominate it up. Yeah. That's crazy. We were talking recently about Wyoming. There was this one surplus kill. These wolves had run across a bunch of cows, elk cows, and they'd kill like 18 of them. Just killed them. Just slaughtering. Yeah, they caught them, I think, in high snow. They couldn't get away. And so these wolves just, one after another, just killed them all and didn't even eat them. Good practice. I think it's good practice and I also

think while it's snowy out, they probably figured, look, we'll come back to this. Yeah. Leave it in a pile. Oh, for sure. sure yeah it's that whole nothing ever goes to waste i suppose if they don't eat it then the grizzly eats it if the grizzly don't eat it birds are eating badgers there's something eating it yeah that's a fact they are an animal like i mean even if a hunter hits an animal and doesn't recover it that it's not going to waste no no that's right everyone everything goes back to the earth i think we've spoken about this before you know like the world's the ultimate predator like everything's fueling the world you know the growth on the earth yeah it really is uh it's just a fascinating cycle when you're out there

and you realize that it doesn't care about 4g or cities or cars i'mG, I'm on LTE, bro. 4G is shit. I remember when 4G was good. 3G. 4G is shit. Yeah, that's the one. That's the good one. Yeah, yeah.

When you're out there in the woods and you're doing these live streams or these Instagram stories, how are you hooking up when you're out there? Some of them are saved. so some of them are like i think that last year when i did the solo hike for the arnhem land like the northern territory of australia that was like a 13 day delay i think where every day i was still documenting it but it wasn't until that i got back into civilization that i was uploading it each day so when you do it on your phone, it just saves it on the phone?

I'm just filming it in the normal camera mode and then uploading it. But a lot of places, especially here in the US, when you're up high, like usually I've got half decent reception. I'll do a little bit of research. What's the best provider in the area, ATE, Verizon, whatever it is, and I'll end up getting a sim card for that you know provider and then usually if i'm up high it's not too bad but it just depends where you are like backcountry bc nothing at all oh yeah there's nothing yeah northern territory australia like

arnhem land like nothing at all yeah what about satellite you can't upload data really well from satellite oh yeah that's the issue. And if you could, you'd want to be freaking rich because it would charge you an arm and a leg. Yeah. Yeah, I saw these things at REI. You put them on your backpack. It's like an extender. Okay, yeah.

And somehow or another extends your cell phone range. I used to use them back in the olden days. Are they legit? The ones in Australia were. They were 3g like telstra 3g that's our provider back home they were pretty good but you'd have like a big antero hanging off your back and i'm not that into it yeah it wasn't that bad it was like the size of this uh caveman can it wasn't uh yeah pretty small yeah it would just clip on and i don't

remember exactly the mechanism behind it that'd be handy yeah if i'm just trying to communicate with home i've got like a garmin inreach sort of thing and you can do you do text off your phone because it like actually goes into your phone but as far as data goes it's too slow to do something like insta stories right right well one day wasn't it uh mark zuckerberg? Wasn't he trying to put satellites in space to make internet for the whole world? Yeah. It feels like we need it. They stopped doing that.

I don't know. They stopped doing that? Yeah. Once Congress started going to his house. I know for sure one of them they had in one of the Tesla rockets that went up that exploded. Remember one? Oh, really? One didn't make it or something like that.

Yeah, SpaceX. And they had stuff in that one i believe i don't think that's ruined it but it probably put a big like halt on it yeah that makes sense i always think how you can be so much unorganized now like with work and stuff because of where phones and that are but i remember like in the construction industry that morning that you left to work you had to be highly friggin organized because it wasn't a you had to go back to a pay phone if you wanted to call someone no one wanted to do that especially from a work site that um now it's just that whole i just remember when emails come on

phone i was like holy shit i can save some time now like that was a massive breakthrough for business being able to do that and then but it's also nice to step away from that every now and then like some hunts i'm really looking forward to going to because there isn't any reception you know and you get away from emails business work phone calls all the shit it's just you and nature you know yeah it's sort of nice to be like that well just even life i think we're all spending too much time on our phones too much time being connected and uh two of my friends ari shafir and burt kreischer hired companies to uh take over their social media yeah they don't they don't look at their social media at all what they do is they'll post

something by sending it to them like say if he has a tour coming up like hey you know i'm going to be in sacramento blah blah blah he sends it to them they take that they put it up he doesn't see it at all he doesn't doesn't pay attention to a second of it that sort of sounds nice yeah i'm thinking it does you know i've been better at it over the last like a couple months than i ever have before but just leaving the phone alone yeah and not touching it and just hanging out yeah i'll do certain posts where i don't even look back on it it's just like cool posted it the content's out there if people want to look at it they can look at it if they don't want to look at it change the channel go and look at something different but then every now and then there's one that i like to look at the engagement

with and stuff like that which is good yeah but you know there's always like there's 10% fuckwits out there that are kind of it's true there's like 10 so i've been looking at it i don't even think it's that high i think how many followers you got like how many people would tune into an instagram post of yours each day i don't know um just a guess i have a couple of hundred thousand at least i have 5.5 million instagram followers okay so say one percent of them wakes up on the wrong side of the bed just one percent wakes up on the wrong side of the bed and wants to be fucking mouthy that morning that's a lot of people and then your post is the first post they see you're like you're gonna get some shit there and you know we're all ignorant if we think that everyone's just gonna

get along like that's never gonna fucking happen is it and it's never happened. But I feel like it's getting worse. Really? Yeah, because you can't punch someone in the face anymore. Like, it's true. If someone gets mouthy, especially in Australia, it was only going back so many years ago, if someone gets mouthy, you confront them. And if they want to go at it, let's go at it. I'll get in trouble if I do that now. You know, you're the one that gets in trouble. Even though they've been a smartass, now you're the one that gets in trouble. So you can't do that and people know that. So they get mouthier.

There's no repercussions for calling someone a fucking cunt on Instagram. That's true. Like I'm not in favor of people running around punching people, but I am, I do like the way it turns out. I do too. People realize that you can't just be an asshole. the way it turns out. I do too. People realize that you can't just be an asshole.

Imagine when you were in school and say you don't get along with someone and they get mouthy and then you have a fight. You usually ended up friends after it. A lot of times. A lot of the times you ended up friends over it or mass beef. Yeah. But a lot of the times it was just sorted out then

and it was done. Yeah. And then other people knew not to talk shit. Yeah. Well, it's a weird thing like when you see ufc fights where guys fucking hate each other and they beat the shit out of each other and then afterwards they're hugging and yeah yeah i know it's a weird thing with men yeah like sometimes you just need to get it out of your system yeah i think it's fucking it's primal it's like human nature It's definitely too easy to be shitty to people. It's too easy.

And people don't, it's also so new. The other thing is it's so new. I mean, any kind of internet interaction is only 20 years old. That's it. Yeah. Basically, 24 years. I think I was online in 94, and it was like a 56K modem. It was slow as shit. It might not have been 56K modem. It was slow as shit.

It might not have been 56K. It might have been 14.4. And it was, you know, where you would use it through the phone line and go. Yeah, it was shit ass, but we thought it was great back then. We're like, this is amazing. We thought it was the most incredible thing. I remember I showed up to news radio one day, the sitcom that I was on, and I couldn't

wait to tell these people about how i got online last night and i was uh downloading all these things and printing them i was printing up uh uh it was all about ufos i was really into ufos back then and i was uh reading all these files about ufos like government reports about ufos i'd somehow or another found some i don't know what the fuck it was a message board or something that you could get and i was so obsessed i was telling them it was such a big deal it would take so long to download one piece of paper like one piece of paper that was filled with text would take like 30 seconds to download yeah crazy that's crazy yeah and now we're here and i'm like if i've got three g4 bars i'm like what the fuck yeah i would take like 30 seconds to download. Yeah. Crazy. That's crazy.

And now we're here and I'm like, if I've got 3G, 4 bars, I'm like, what the fuck? Yeah, I know. You're mad. Yeah. It's like, this is so slow. Well, what's, you know, telling your kids about the virtual reality setup that we have back there, that disturbs me. That disturbs me.

It doesn't disturb me that, you know, it's bad for you or anything like that. It's so fun and it's so immersive and i know and i know where it's going i'm like it's gonna keep getting better and better just like it was 30 seconds to download a just a simple piece of paper filled with text you know 20 years ago 20 years from now that is gonna look like crayons oh totally i mean but that is the you got to put that thing on. You're going to freak out. There's some archery games, too. Is there?

Yeah, yeah, there's a bunch of them. I'll do that. It's pretty cool. You actually have, it's called haptic feedback. So as you draw the bow back, you actually feel like a vibration in your hand. Really? Yep, yep. And then you let go like that.

Tesla suit. Jesus Christ, Tesla. Wow. It's not the same company. What? They're just calling it that. Fuck you. As far as Tesla. It's not the same company. They're just calling it that. Fuck you, other company. Tesla suit unveiled at CES 2019. Takes virtual reality

to new heights. Yeah, they're going to have haptic feedback suits. Is that what it is? Yeah, there's like 68 sensors in there and you can supposedly feel like up to rain, I guess. So you get shot and you feel where it cracks. Girls are going to put it right on their pussy and they're just going to keep shooting themselves. You could have come home.

Your girl's going to have a haptic feedback suit on and one of them artificial machine guns. There you go. It's going to wreck reality. There's a video of a girl doing it. Whoa. Did she get shocked? No, but There's a video of a girl doing it. Whoa. Did she get shocked? No, but there's a couple different things. This is just a test, but she takes a hard front kick to the chest here.

What? Yeah. I mean, I don't know how it felt to her. Okay, let's see hard front kick to the chest. Hard explosion. Right back here, actually. I did it earlier. Okay.

I was looking around. Oh, front kick. Here goes nothing. Oh, okay. It's not that hard. I don't want kick. Here goes nothing. Oh, okay. It's not that hard. It's not your kick. It wasn't that hard, but I did feel it right here. Hard explosion.

Oh, do I really want to try? Yes, I do. Oh, I just did that to myself. Well, there's a boxing game that you can play. It's really cool. And the boxing game, you see this guy in front of you, like a big 3D cartoon, but really cool graphics. And when he punches you, the whole screen goes bright. Like you got your bells on.

Bam. Oh, damn. It makes you nervous. Yeah, yeah. Like when I'm sparring with him and he punches me, I'm like, oh, jeez, I've got to get my hands up. I've got to move. It feels real. That's cool.

And you get exhausted because you're moving around. You're punching just – it's harder, believe it or not, to punch air than it is to punch something. Oh, definitely, yeah. Yeah, because you get tired. You get tired easier. So you're throwing your hands at this thing, and then it goes down. You're like, ah, ah. And it gets back up. your feet hurt from moving around,

squeaking around on the floor. Unreal. It's really interesting. Yeah. Yeah, so there's for sure going to be a weird world for our kids. When they get to be our age, the world is going to be unrecognizable. Yeah, I feel like it's taken the edge off things too. It has.

It really takes the edge off things. it has it it really takes the edge off things like you haven't actually done that like you haven't actually climbed everest but i sort of have i did it in a virtual reality game and it was not really though not really though you know you didn't have your life wasn't at stake yeah exactly yeah i've been actually talking about this on stage that i'm worried about this i'm worried about people being able to have experiences that they didn't earn you know like if if someone if if there's a virtual reality game where you you play it and all of a sudden you're in a uh nascar and you're you know you're winning some gigantic race you're in the driver's seat and

you're shifting the gears and you mean feels like you're like indiscernible from feeling like you're winning a race. Yeah. That's going to happen. They're going to be able to do all these different things. And it's going to make people more and more dependent on technology and weaker and weaker physically. Weaker and weaker. That's how I feel too. Yeah.

Yeah. It's like going to the gym and working out and getting all these muscles but then moving away from any manual labor. Yeah. You know what I mean? And I'm not saying don't be fit, but I'm saying if you're building their muscles, fucking use them. That is true. There's a lot of guys that go to the gym,

and they'll work out hard for 45 minutes, an hour at a gym, but make them work a construction site. They carry lumber all day. They'll be fucking complaining, looking for protein shakes. Yeah, burning out. You know, the real problem is going to be sex.

Yeah. That's the real problem. You're going to be able to put those things on and have sex with anybody you want? Like anybody. Scarlett Johansson. That's fucking weird.

So they're already doing these things where they face swap with computers. So they take beautiful actresses and they put their face on porn stars' bodies. And it's hard to tell, man. I mean, it looks like a sex tape with a famous actress. That's disturbing.

It is disturbing. I wonder if there's a Joe Rogan one. I'm sure there is. There is now. We mentioned it. Yeah, we talked about it. And it's probably the gayest thing that's ever lived. But I think the real worry is that not just like see it, but do that. Yeah, we talked about it and it's probably the gayest thing that's ever lived. But I think the real worry

is that not just like see it, but do it. Yeah. Like you're going to be able to, like the Matrix, you're going to be able to put this on and you're going to be able to, like this heptic feedback suit,

that's just one step. Eventually they're going to figure out a way to make your body feel it. And then you're going to, you're going to be able to have sex with people. Done. Yeah. Yeah. Like anybody you want. Like you're be able to have sex with people done yeah like anybody you want like you're never gonna have to be nice to people again yeah because everybody's gonna

fuck you you know that's one of my my point was kind of on stage is that like one of the reasons why it's hard like it's hard to have sex with people like you have to plan it out i mean it's not that hard but it's you know you have to agree that you like each other you know You have to plan it out. I mean, it's not that hard, but you have to agree that you like each other. You have to hope that she likes you and you like her or whatever. You develop your personality to get people

to like you more. That way it's more likely. You be a nicer person, you get rewarded for that, you realize, oh, it's nice to be a nice person and then it actually makes you a nicer person. If you don't have to do that in the future, we're going to be. People are dressing a certain way and trying to keep hygienic and be nice. And then, yeah, everyone just turns into a fucking slob because they're going to sleep with some pretty actress anyway. Oh, yeah.

And in that virtual reality, they're going to look like Ryan Reynolds anyway. They're going to have a full six pack and look beautiful. And then other people are going to meet you in there. They're also going to be. I mean, you're going to have some disgusting human beings and then in that world they're going to be perfect yeah but then there'll be people like me that i'm like no i'm traditional yeah i sleep with real real people my wife real humans yeah exactly that's going to be old school that's going to be like riding a bike. Yeah. Like, what are you doing? What's he doing? What, do you walk everywhere? It's crazy. Yeah, I just, I posted a photo, a video actually,

which is like 700 images stacked together out at Joshua Tree. Oh, I saw that. Yeah, and it's like the Milky Way cruising past, but then there's just the air traffic, dude, is insane. It's just like constant. You know, I'm like, like anyone looking in this must already look like the future you know it must look so futuristic already and i'm like well it sort of is maybe this like we're living in it now here it is yeah look at the air traffic it's about this point here look at them all just back and forth and that's all air traffic none of that is asteroids nope every bit

of that's air traffic wow that's such an amazing image man it wasn't until the camera stopped early hours of the morning that there's and for anybody this is uh adam dot green tree on instagram and you still have your photography page first man image yeah first man image first dot man image and these are some amazing photos yeah so that's incredible that's about 300 photos stacked together so you actually get a star trail that's in australia so that's the southern star you know that middle point so that's like the south and then if you go back to uh if you go back to adam dot green tree jamie Jamie that one if you go back to like that star one that's the north star so that was pretty cool so one's taken from Australia where you got the southern star which is like you know the turning point and then this is from America like Joshua Tree there California and that's like the northern

star I think Joshua Tree is closed down right now because of the, I don't people like did the federal shutdown affect you at all? I'm like, no, I didn't even know about it until you mentioned it just then. Yeah. It's a, it's going to be a while too.

Really? Yeah. They, I think, didn't they shut down Joshua tree because people were going in and shutting, they were chopping trees down. It wasn't just because of the trash. That's what started because of the trash.

And then over like the last week, people were actually going in and like chopping some trees down like super assholes yeah right so there was sign there was signs up that it was closed and i wasn't actually camping joshua tree itself i was like out of the tourist section just off the side of the road where i could but someone was saying about um you know that the government or whatever whatever, the federal government, you know, with all the trash. But the federal government's not leaving the fucking trash there. That's people. Signature trees are among the shutdown victims. Wow.

Wow. There's only a few trees in Joshua Tree. And these people are chopping them down just to be dicks because they know there's no one there. Pretty sure, yeah. They're probably trying to collect something from it. They're just probably trying to be assholes god damn it and that that is joshua tree is a massive place too it says there it's larger than rhode island yeah it's beautiful once you get out there that's a real shame you know this is the thing about people that don't spend much time in the wilderness and don't appreciate the wilderness they don't they don't they just well they're not connected to it they don't understand so i heard a bunch of people

in the city because you know i spent the last five six days here in la you know and the bad weather's come in they're like oh this is disgusting weather and i'm like fuck no the bush is loving this yeah the earth's loving this you need rain especially after all these horrible fires that you had like rain's a good thing They're just so complaining It rains out here literally 10 days a year Yeah yeah 10 days a year is normal I might be exaggerating

But slightly Like I wouldn't I don't imagine it rains more than 50 days a year out here Yeah crazy That's not exaggerating 10's probably about right Since yeah, I feel like. Nah. Since I've lived here.

Let's take a guess. It might be a little more of the drought time, but. Let's take a guess. How many days a year on average does it rain in LA? I'm going to say 25. 25 days a year. 16. 16, I bet you're right.

That's two per month. That's a lot. Yeah, but sometimes it's a bunch together. Like this is like seven already so far in the last week and a half. Let's bet on it. I'll bet you that Kanye doll. No fucking way, bro. Oh, shout out to Plasticelle.

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I don't know. This is tough's Tough to get They should have Like an average 284 sunny days per year Which means Yeah I don't know 39 inches per year

It's tough to figure that out 39 inches per year Is not a lot though So But the problem is It's California right It's like Northern California

Fucking rains every day Like if you go like Near the redwood forest That's a That's a rainforest right? It's like Northern California fucking rains every day. Like if you go like near the Redwood Forest, that's a rainforest out there. It was raining constantly. We spent some time up in Medicino. It's beautiful, man. Nice. Right by the ocean.

Yeah. Fucking trees are so big, they're stupid. Yeah, beautiful. It doesn't even make sense to get trees as big as this room. Yeah. You're standing there going, how old is this? They're like, oh, this is a 2,000-year-old tree. Yeah.

You're in a desert stretch yeah yeah a thousand year old tree is like a normal tree up there yeah i've noticed around the city there's a lot of australian natives like gum trees and eucalyptus and stuff like that yeah yeah there's a lot of that they must have been imported at some point and just realize they do well in the harsh conditions well you know the palm tree is sort of the hollywood signature tree that shit's from hawaii yeah but they look good but it's just so funny that like that's sort of indicative of what california is like we don't we don't have a real yeah you know it's just the diversity i mean everything comes from somewhere else here there's no like native los angeles people you meet one of those and you're like, whoa,

like you're a test tube baby or something. Yeah, yeah, where you're from, yeah. Fucking Disneyland, dude. I was born in Disneyland. Holy shit. My dad is goofy. Yeah. What's it like wandering around there from Los Angeles? That's hectic.

So especially like, because everything I do is like wilderness and out. Like I adapt fine, like that's not an issue, but I don't like it. Just because I adapt doesn't mean I like it but um disney's a different place like i went in there yesterday like fucking dressed as a man you know jeans on a flannelette shirt you know and a camo cap and walking around and then the kids talk me into going to that what's the splash splash mountain and my eldest is like sit in the front dad it's the it's a place you'll you won't get so wet in the front and i'm like okay cool and i jumped in the front we come down and i'm like i'm fucking yelling so my mouth is open dude i nearly fucking drowned i swallowed

that much water i'm like fuck i've got aids for sure this is fucked so a whole gollop went in my mouth fucking soaked me drenched me And then it was cold, dude. It had come over cold. So I've walked around Disney for the morning thinking, like, look at these fucking Froot Loops and the way they're dressed and all their Disney clothes. The only clothes you can buy in there is fucking Disney clothes. I'm wearing, it was pajama pants with fucking Mickey Mouse's head

all over them. This fucking, this shirt that's got Disney fucking written all over it. Fucking walking around there like I fitted perfectly in after that. And it's like fucking actually look like fucking who's the owner of Disney? Walt Disney. Walt Disney. It fucking shot his load all over me. It was fucking Mickey Mouse and shit all over me.

Well, we were there the other day. They have a warming station set up outside of Splash Mountain where you can step into this. It looks like a phone booth and you get warmed up. But it costs money. Yeah, everything costs money in Disney. Yeah, but I'm like, Jesus Christ, you can't get people wet and then charge them to dry off. That's fucking brutal. Yeah, I think it's all fucking a bit of a scam.

It is, but let me tell you something. Oh, it's an amazing place. Kids love it. Oh, 100%. My kids went mental on those rides. Have you been to Florida yet? Yeah. Six years ago, I went to Florida, yeah.

When you go to Florida, again, you got to go to Disney World. Disney World, yeah. Disney World is way better than Disneyland. Yeah, I think we went there. We ended up going there, yeah. I wouldn't say it's way better because Disneyland's pretty amazing. Yeah. But Disney World has the best ride of all time.

They have this Avatar ride. What is it called? Flights of Passage, I think. Flights of Passage. Right. And you ride one of them Avatar dragons. It's all virtual reality. Yeah.

You put these goggles on and you climb on this thing that looks like a motorcycle and it straps you in place. And what you're riding is one of them giant dragons it's fucking incredible dude it's the best ride of all time i've had a bunch of friends there and i get text messages back from like holy fucking shit i'm like yeah yeah yeah no joke yeah you feel the breeze you smell things there you see these animals you're flying over It's wild It's all HD Three dimensional Amazing God damn it's good Yeah now I'll stick to hunting and camping

Well at the end of the day Steve Ronell said it best This is a quote that he said That I think he was talking about Someone else told him this That there's two different kinds of fun There's fun that you have while it's happening, like you ride the roller coaster.

It's fun. But you don't look back on that five years from now and go, that was amazing. But then there's things that suck while you're doing them, like your 28-day trip in the Rocky Mountains, pointing a gun that you don't even know has a jammed bullet in it and a grizzly is charging at you. Yeah.

Like that will be fun for the rest of your life. Totally. Yeah. Yeah. You'll feel that when you bring it back, when you talk about it. Yeah. There's like shallow fun.

Always. Yeah. Some things are just shallow, but they're cool to do. There's nothing wrong with doing them. Yeah. But they just, they're not real meaningful.

Exactly. You know what I mean? And then there's shit that you do that's just really meaningful, you know, it builds character. It's something that you always look back on, you know, memories and shit. But there's feelings that you get when you come back, too, where you appreciate things. Like Callan and I did this trip with Rinella in Prince of Wales,

and we were up there for – we were supposed to be up there, I think, for seven days. But on the sixth day, a storm was coming in. And so we wound up bailing early because I had a gig in two days. And otherwise, I would have been stuck up there. Like, you get stuck. It rained every fucking day. And it didn't just rain every day.

It rained all day, every day. There was no – like, if you had a break, it was a five-minute break. Yeah. Like, oh, look, the sun. And then rain again. Just peel misery. So inside the tent, I put my headlamp on and there was, see, this is what fucks you up. You think, well, when I'm inside the tent, I'll be dry.

No. No, there's no dry because the air's wet. Air, yeah. And when I turned my headlamp on, I realized the entire inside of the tent was moisture particles floating around the air. And I was like, fuck me. I'm in this wet down bag. And I'm looking around. I'm like, you're never going to get dry, bro.

It's okay. But, you know, you accept it. But then when we came home after the six days and I took a shower. And then we were in the car, and it was sunny out, and I was like, God, this is the best I've ever felt. I'm so happy. I don't think you get that happy unless you feel miserable first. No, that's right.

So you know the misery, and then so you know the little things that we take for granted in life every day are like fucking wow. Yeah. Yeah, Kim did this hike in montana with me and it's just like it's like 14 miles and there's just like not a flat bit of ground on it it's just continually going up and it's in the snow and she she had an issue with her leg and uh anyway we got up the top and we set up camp and it's just been miserable but even a fire there you know like we lit the fire and she's fucking smiling she's loving it you know and then we come back to the trailer like we're not even in a house here we're

just traveling around in like a winnebogo trailer and we get back to the trailer and you get to flick a light on and turn the tap on and it's hot water and she's just like fuck yeah this is awesome you know but a week goes by and then you start taking that shit for granted again some people do anyway you know oh yeah yeah you certainly can but i think a by and then you start taking that shit for granted again. Some people do anyway, you know. Oh, yeah. Yeah, you certainly can. But I think a guy like you, you're in the wilderness so often that, you know, it's almost like you have a permanent appreciation for both things. Yeah, totally. Yeah.

I actually miss it. I actually don't like this side of life as much as that side of life. Yeah, I see it. I get it. I like both. Obviously, I need, I i mean i make a living in cities yeah yeah oh for sure yeah that's what i do but but it's nice to go out and dabble in it live in it and come back out of it 100 i love it those the the the few hunting trips that i get to

do a year when i'm out in the actual wilderness, like when we're in the mountains of Utah elk hunting, I just like sitting down sometimes. Just sit down and take it all in for a couple minutes. I mean, even though you're in the middle of it and you're running around looking for elk and you hear them, I just like, look how quiet it is. Oh, it's the best. You start knowing yourself, you know,

and you start knowing the wilderness and the real world, you know. It's like because you always say, as you said on one of of the podcasts i don't know if it was one with me or someone else that it's so funny that we say the outdoors because everything's outdoors like fucking everything's under the ceiling of the earth you know that's what it really is yeah but it's so weird that you don't really know the outdoors unless you stay out in the wilderness or something like that yeah unless you and i think the wilderness or something like that. Yeah. And I think also being out there at night. There's something about being out there at night. Boy, the campfire and you hear things like, what was that?

Fuck that up. You're looking around. Absolute burst, yeah. It just seems. And the campfire, somehow or another, seems to be able to protect you. Yeah. Most animals don't want to fuck with campfires. Yeah, exactly.

You see that fire like, ah. Yeah. I'm going to stay clear. Me, I took kim and the kids we traveled around australia and uh it must have been the end of 2007 and early last year and we camped out on the tanami desert which is like one of the last places to really be discovered and explored in australia like there's there's no artificial lights out there at all like whatsoever and we camped out on the desert and the only thing that was around us was like dingoes and camels like you'd hear them moving

through the night camels yeah yeah but we sat there at camp i just had the my my truck my ute you know with the camper on the back like real lightweight setup and we sat there no lights on the camper or anything so you're sitting in the pitch black moonless night and the medias dude like i reckon we counted 40 50 medias over like half hour an hour just the naked eyes seeing them perfect dude sitting there with the family and i'm like this is this is the best like this is so it was so amazing just to sit there especially with the kids and Kim as well. It's a little unnerving when you find out how many times they enter the atmosphere.

Oh, yeah. How many of them are out there? Yeah, Jamie could probably look this up, but I think 100 tons of media hits the earth every single day. 100 tons, dude. But most of it enters in dust form because it breaks up. Oh, my God. 100 tons, dude.

But most of it enters in dust form because it breaks up. Oh, my God. But so last year I was up at my cabin just chilling out by myself, woke up in the morning, needed to do a piss, walked out. And I'm looking up and this media come through and it was so bright that it actually lit up the ground, dude, like the most incredible media that I've seen. I had a time-lapse photo going in the opposite direction. I quickly turned it around, and you see the media's dust for like,

it lasts for 25 minutes, half an hour in the camera, and it's just drifting, changing shape in the atmosphere. It was insane. Wow. So it's just like every now and then there's like a real good one. So then I started looking it up, and I seen one that wrecked a whole village like in Germany or something like that. This asteroid comes through wrecking shit that it didn't even touch,

but it comes so close to it. It blows the walls and the windows out and everything. I'm like, this is fucking scary. We live on a little speck that's like turning in one of many galaxies, you know. My friend Randall Carlson put it best. He said we live in the middle of a shooting gallery isn't it insane it's just the time the perspective of you know hundreds

of millions of years it doesn't seem it doesn't register to us because we're only around for 100 years yeah yeah yeah so when we look up and we see the moon i mean the moon looks like a fucking stop sign in the most jankiest redneck town you know when people shoot at signs that, the moon looks like a fucking stop sign in the most jankiest redneck town. Yeah, yeah. You know, when people shoot at signs, that's what the moon looks like. It's just fucking shot up with holes. Just smacked up, yeah. Yeah, it's just getting nailed all the time, especially with no atmosphere.

Yeah. All those things make it all the way through. Nothing gets slowed down by the air or burns up in the atmosphere. Isn't that crazy? Everything just slams into it. Yeah. Boom, boom, boom. Imagine being up there. It must be all day day long it must be slamming things it was only uh i think it

was like 10 000 years ago there was like a big bang like like a big media hit hit the earth yeah and uh i started looking into that and then i started really looking into aborigines in australia indigenous how long they've been around for and stuff like that. And there's now evidence to say that they've been around for 70,000 years. They lived through like three of those big meteors hitting the earth. You know, like it's crazy to think about. Like why didn't, I wish we had video cameras back then, you know, and they could have recorded it and we could look at it now. Like imagine that.

Well, Randall Carlson, the guy that I talked about earlier, he is a proponent of this theory that this is what ended the Ice Age. Yeah. And he's got some pretty compelling evidence to back it up in terms of like massive, massive fields filled with dead woolly mammoths that died almost instantly. Some of them with their legs broken from the force of the impact yeah he's you know it's really interesting because he's a guy who uh i don't think he has a degree in this stuff but he's so well read in it that he has these debates and conversations with people that do have these degrees in it and he can tell them things about it yeah and it's hard in those fields to be taken seriously if you don't have a phd in whatever discipline it is but man his uh his work on these things is so compelling in the

podcast that i've did with them are just mind-blowing but in terms of like the evidence that points to some event that ended the ice age very rapidly and caused the disintegration of the polar, of the ice that was over North America. You know, North America had something like a mile high plus sheet of ice over most of it. Just 10,000 years ago. Yeah. 12,000 years ago. I think I was driving through Wyoming,

and they've got all these signs up in Wyoming that are really interesting, and there's a rock formation that will tell you how old that rock formation is how it formed you know because like you know rock usually embeds in layers like this it's formed in layers like this and then you'll see a rock like that you know all the lines are like this there's some of them there that are like hundreds of million years old you know and there's a sign there showing it and it's just it's incredible to think how much the earth's changed and you just said it we're around for 100 years at a time max yeah you know and it's just like we're dropping the freaking ocean like even the whole human race is a drop in the ocean compared to like how old the earth is and it's just crazy to think of the like it's hard to

comprehend that there was that much ice over here because there's none now yeah you know but it's been that long you know and that's yeah it's mind-boggling to think of well they they find shells in montana i found some on top of friggin some big mace or out in the desert dude like there's no water for miles and there's shells there there's there was like starfish fossilized in the rocks and it's all like coral bed you you know, and that was like the bottom of the ocean. That was a reef bed. Yeah, it's the great western inland sea. Yeah, they had sharks out there. I think they had megalodons in Montana.

Shit. They find dinosaurs there all the time. friends well dudley knows a guy who has a ranch out there in montana and he found a bone in his uh in his ranch just maybe something protruding from the ground um and he wanted someone to get a look at it so he got a hold of some uh i guess what would you have paleontologists yeah they went and they said you got a fucking t-rex here bro holy shit t-rex on your property unbelievable i think they gave him a million dollars for it really yeah because it's like a fully intact or He said, you got a fucking T-Rex here, bro. Holy shit. You got a T-Rex on your property. Unbelievable. I think they gave him a million dollars for it. Really?

Yeah, because it's like a fully intact or close to intact T-Rex. Far out. Yeah, apparently Montana, Colorado. What do you got there? A megalodon was found supposedly in Texas. Jesus Christ. What the fuck, man? That's a fucking great watch, Jacques. Boy, that's a stupid movie.

The Meg? The Meg, yeah. Oh, Jesus's a stupid movie The Meg I watched it the other day I was like what am I sitting through here It's so stupid There wasn't just one there was a bunch of them Spoiler alert Can you find out how much media Yeah I was struggling to find that,

and then I think I found what you found. So it says here's from NASA's website. There's 100 tons of dust and sand-sized particles. Every day. Hit Earth every day. Every day. It seems like it would put the balance of the Earth off. Do you know what I mean?

Are we sending shit back out into space? Are we sending 100 tons of shit back out into space every day to offload this? Look at this. Every 2,000 years or so, a meteoroid the size of a football field hits Earth and causes significant damage to the area. That's some scary shit. Firely once every few million years. That could be in the next 10 minutes. An object large enough to threaten Earth's civilization comes along.

Not just that. Bigger than that. Impact craters on Earth, the moon, and other planetary bodies are evidence of these occurrences. Yeah, they don't even know. You know, that's the most spooky thing. Like, Neil deGrasse Tyson said that we are decades away from being able to do anything about one of those things coming our way. And I said, so all these people think that they could stop it when it's happening. He's like, not happening.

He goes, there's nothing you could do. What about Armageddon, bro? The movie? Bruce Willis. Yeah, we got to send Bruce Willis up there. He'll figure it out. He'll sort it out. Yeah.

People have a real distorted idea of the technological capabilities in terms of like, first of all, NASA's so under budgeted they barely have enough money to put you know satellites in orbit they don't have enough money to stop asteroids from coming in i mean the amount of money you would need is so fucking massive it would take a cooperative joint effort of every major country in the world yeah and such a force of nature and you know a force of nature usually can't be fucked with. Yeah. It's scary. Well, all they can do, all they think they could do, and not even now, but in the future, is move it off target slightly. Yeah, yeah.

To somehow or another give it a bump, send it into Mars or something. At a certain distance and it completely misses, yeah. Cracks a moon instead. Darkness. No light for forever. Yeah. It's scary. Space is scary. And you don't really see space

unless you're out there with no light pollution. I don't think people that don't camp or that don't go out. You know, you look up at night, like last night, well, not last night, but a couple nights ago when it wasn't raining, it was a clear night and I saw quite a few stars because there was no moon.

I was like, wow, so pretty. But it ain't shit. But you're not seeing the volume of it. Those photos that you have? Yeah. Out at my farm, you can just sit there with the naked eye, and you can look right into those. There's so many stars that it looks like a dark spot of the Milky Way

because you can see so much of it. You see color in it and everything. It's an amazing spot. Yeah, the color is weird, right? What is the color? What is that? I don't know. I looked at some photos the other day, not my own photo,

someone else's photos, and they were showing the raw images and the color that was coming out of these raw images. They look like absolute pillars, like painted pillars, dude. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know and it's i don't know i don't know if it's a depth in it if it's something like that jamie go to adam's uh that the first man instagram again like these this image like like the ones of um

oh look at that one from bc go down one strip, that one there. That's with the northern lights in it. Wow. But, yeah, that's – so no light pollution out there, obviously. Oh, you saw the northern lights in BC? I didn't know you could see them in BC. Yeah. I thought you had to be in, like, Iceland or something. No, that was cool.

I've seen them – when I was in Northwest Territories, they were lighting up the ground. And right in front of your eyes, they were just, like, dancing constantly right in front of your eyes. That was awesome. In the Northwest Territories of Australia? No, in Canada. Oh, okay.

Yeah. Northern Territories of Australia, right? That's what they call it? Yeah, northern. Northwest is, okay. So where is it at the best, though? Is it the best place to see it in like Iceland or some shit or Norway? I don't know.

I don't know. I've seen it. So I've seen it in Northwest Territories. I've seen it in BC. I don't think, we didn't see it in Alberta when we were there. No. No. But I think we had shitty weather while we were there too.

It's got to be a crazy thing to see though, huh? It's like green smoke in the sky. Yeah. If you go down a couple more, Jamie, please. Silence. There's the farm go up one. Yeah, hit that one in the middle there. Wow, look at the color in that one.

God, that's amazing. And is that, what kind of, you have to do something with the aperture? Well, for starters, it's open for longer. So it's gathering in more light. You know, like the human eye, you have to actually lay there in the dark for a fair while and just like stare into that sort of to get a good look at it. How long is it open to get that image? That's like 13 or 15 seconds. Oh, wow.

Yeah. You can leave it open for 30 seconds or you can put it on like an actual jammed open for a long time, but it's way too much light for what the farm has. And you can start getting a lot of distortion as well. That's such a cool picture with the cabin as well, with the light coming out of the cabin. Yeah. Isn't that crazy that there could be infinite earths out there? Yeah, that's what's crazy is that each one of those is a sun.

Yeah. And most of them are bigger. I mean, apparently our son is a little bitch-ass son. A little bitch-ass son. Thank God for that. Otherwise, it'll be fried. Well, we just have to be further away. Yeah, exactly.

Look at that. But the big ones don't last that long, apparently. Our son's a good one. It's like a Toyota Tercel. It's like a Toyota Hilux, you mean. But they fucking last, man. Land Cruiser. Hilux, we don't have that over here.

Yeah, you got like the Coma. Yeah, Hilux is like a small Land Cruiser, right? Yeah, it is, yeah. You guys got a bunch of wacky cars over there. The Cruiser's probably better. I'm about to buy a Land Cruiser. That's the Hilux there. The new Land Cruiser?

Yeah. The tray back though, so like a dual cab so like five seats but it's got a tray on it and then a tray uh you mean like a pickup truck bed like a pickup truck bed but we usually rip the the the one that's on it off we usually rip the trip the pickup truck bed off because it's like it's bulky you know there's not a lot of room in it really usually rip that off and we'll build a steel tray. So it's like a whole flatbed. You might call it a flatbed.

And you can just fit a lot more on it. And it's a lot more rickety, you know, you can throw firewood, rocks on it, whatever the fuck you want. Well, you guys have to have vehicles that you could drive for like a day before you hit a gas station if you're doing that if you're doing those hunts that i do yeah so one of the first things you do is you rip off the fuel tank and you put like an aftermarket fuel tank on it that's usually like twice the capacity yeah or you throw a second fuel tank on it and go from there so i don't know what it is in gallons but like say a fuel tank's like usually 60 liters 20 gallons is what usually a fuel tank yeah out here well then we'd double it to like 40 or 50 or 60 or something like that right and

because there's such a market for it in australia there's a bunch of them that you buy ready that are ready to mount onto your vehicle why is there a market for that in australia because it's fucking 100 miles to anywhere. That's why. Forward driving is like different in Australia as well. You know, it's like, so where my business is, the nearest city, which is Perth, is like 18 hours drive. You know, and then we fuel 18 hours drive to the nearest city. 18 hours? 18 hours.

What is that, Jamie? That's too far far but what would it take us to get that's like colorado um i've driven across i've driven from ohio to here twice and it took 33 hours and 24 hours gets you from like columbus to about amarillo texas and that's 24 hours of straight driving straight driving Jesus Christ so this is like Western Australia is like a massive state it goes from the very top of Australia to the very bottom

of Australia what does it feel like when you get out of the car for 33 hours of driving sucks so bad the one time we ended at like 4 in the morning

right on the Sunset Strip right at that hotel the Hyatt wow like 5 in the morning but when you get in LA at 4 in the morning you're right in the traffic again you're like tired as shit you're like oh it's time to go you gotta go cause you're about to wreck right at the end in the morning. But when you get in LA at 4 in the morning, you're right in the traffic again.

You're like tired as shit. You're like, oh, it's time to go. You got to go because you're about to wreck right at the end of the trip. But you're pumping Kanye the whole way though. Actually, Uber, yeah. Keeping awake. It's a hellish drive.

And there's just, you know, to some people it's nothing the whole way, but it's a beautiful country. Like if you're in the outback, you're staring out and you're happy the whole time. Is that a very popular thing to do in Australia is to go out into the Outback? It is, yeah. Between Ford Drive and touring and Furious, we call them the grey nomads. So older people that have retired with grey hair, like old mate's beard there.

Grey nomad? Young Jamie ain't looking so young. But a gray nomad, we call them, yeah. They'll get like a tow-behind trailer. Is that a normal description in grown nomads? In Australia, it is. So if I said, yeah, we saw these gray nomads out there, people go, okay. Yeah.

Don't say the gray nomads, though. No? No. Oh, two gray nomads. Yeah, yeah. But if you said it went to the gas station, like, you see anybody yeah we saw some yeah that's normal people know what you're saying yeah huh yeah now um do most people that would will do this do they are they just going out there camping like just camping getting getting a good you know influx of the outdoors sort of thing you know

getting a hit it seems like there is quite a bit of hunting in australia though like particularly there is hunting seems to be on the rise yeah it's just not really promoted well except for you know the bow hunting community itself whereas you come to america and there's like towns with big sign up saying welcome hunters you know it's promoted really yeah it's not it's like it's not part of our history in Australia, even though it is. Signs that say welcome hunters? In America. Haven't you seen those signs? Oh, in America.

Yeah, yeah. Oh, in Australia, there's none of that. Oh, yeah. That's what I meant. So I think it is on the rise, and I think there's this bit of a trend at the moment, go and kill your own, which is good. I love that. Well, especially because Australia has so many non-native species that you can hunt.

Exactly, yeah. And I mean, you don't ever have to buy meat in Australia. No, no. Do you ever buy meat? If we're eating chicken, yeah, that's about it. Just to mix it up. Yeah, the fridge is full. I fill all my friends' fridges, my family's fridges.

Speaking of chicken, what's that mountain lion taste like? Fucking delicious. That's what i keep hearing i keep hearing it's delicious yeah and people get angry it's so strange to me how angry people get if you kill a mountain lion yeah because i think they think that if you kill it it's different than killing a deer or something that's a normal thing to eat yeah even more than a bear yeah i think they get more angry it's a kitty cat yeah yeah meanwhile that motherfucker will kill you yeah i had a bunch of people saying you know you

shouldn't have killed it i don't see mountain lions like i see deer i'm fucking no shit because if you've seen mountain like lions like you've seen deer there'd be no deer it's as simple as that you know i don't know what the numbers are but there's probably supposed to be like one mountain lion for every 500 deer or something like that. Well, they eat one a day. Yeah, that's right. And they're a sneaky creature. Yeah.

You know, you're not supposed to see them. They're not like that. Listen, you could go your whole life not seeing them and they could be around you all the time. Yeah, definitely. That's a fact. If you live in the wilderness, if you live in Montana or you live in Colorado and you live in the woods, you might see one every few years. Yeah. You might.

Might. You might see one every few years. And they are fucking everywhere. Yeah. I'll see prints all the time, but I'll never see a cat. Like I've actually never seen a cat in the wild except for the one that I hunted. And that's like that story I was telling you before. Like it was eating a calf but they

typically kill a deer every single day yeah you know so it's a lot of fucking deer this the human brain allows us to manage things in a certain way you know and it's like these biologists have put all this study and research in the you know going okay you can hunt males in this area so that's all i could hunt where i was i could only shoot a male how do you know it's a male well that's when the dogs come in handy so like I've always I've never really wanted to hunt with dogs because I like to do all the hunting myself but um there's a special bond between the hunter and the dogs when you're hunting that's for sure and it was actually a really good experience I really loved it but a lot of people frown on using dogs but the best way to to determine the sex is the dogs will track it and the lion will take refuge in a tree and then you can have a look at a genitals

and make sure it's a male with binoculars yeah yeah or sometimes if they're low enough you can tell with the human eye so the first thing we established was well it was the lion that i wanted the lion that had killed that calf or was eating that calf alive we end up getting a getting the rancher to come in and he ended up putting the calf out of its misery it couldn't be saved and then we put the dogs back on that mountain lion track and they chased him about seven miles and they end up training we got we marched in and hiked into the tree and ended up determining that it was a male and then i ended up shooting and it was a really good death it was quick but um if it was a female we would have had to have left it

where we were some states aren't like that and counties aren't like that where it can be male and female if the population is too high what they're trying to do in that part of colorado is just keep that mountain lion population healthy and how they determine that was by shooting males only. That could change next year. They could have a rise in mountain lion, a decrease in the mule deer and other animals so they might change that again but we could only shoot a male. Yeah, the problem in America, particularly in California where they outlawed hunting with dogs is that the perception of using a dog to go after an animal

the perception is that it's not fair but people i mean this is going to be hard for some people especially animal lovers to understand but that is the only effective way to hunt for mountain lions because there's no way you're going to sneak up on them you're just not that's right you're not going to see them that's where numbers start to bloom and other animals like mule deer and stuff start to plummet which i've heard a lot that's happening in california is the mule deer population's just been decimated because there's no control on the mountain lines exactly well they do have control of the mountain lines but only government employees kill the mountain lines they kill ironically the same amount of mountain lines they were killing when they were hunting is insane it is insane. It's insane.

But instead of people paying money to do it and getting a tag. Which goes back in the conservation. And getting to eat the mountain lion, which I know, again, people are like, what are you talking about eating mountain lion? I'm telling you, folks, I haven't eaten one, but I'm telling you, and you said it, Brunella said it's one of the most delicious animals he's ever eaten. Yeah, I wanted to bring you some, but it's actually illegal to bring it in to California. Good thing we always abide by the law, Adam Green Tree.

And then. One day I'll try it. Yeah. Wink, wink. So then I've cooked it up and I'm feeding it to Kim. Yeah. And I was cooking chicken as well, just in case her and the kids didn't like it. I had chicken on the grill as well.

And I served the mountain lion first and they were eating the mountain lion and i'm like what do you think of it and she's like i've got the chicken i'm like no you don't you've got the mountain lion and it was delicious dude it's tender as i felt like it was a taste between like chicken and pork or chicken and even venison like i found found it right in the middle there. It's delicious. And I'm not saying everyone should go out and hunt a mountain lion because you can't do that. But there's certain places that you can go and get a tag for the benefit of wildlife and go and hunt a mountain lion. People just have a hard time with the idea that you are somehow or another helping to control the population by killing an animal that kills other animals. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. It's really weird. They would rather let nature take its course. So even if, like, let's go to Africa now, even if the lion population way outweighed something and was running it to extinction, these people would want to sit back and just let that happen. And it's like humans have got a brain capacity

that allows us to study and put research into an animal that's like actually what would be more healthier for the whole ecosystem would be if we come in and hunt these animals and what we'll do is we'll charge people a certain tag fee to be able to do that and we'll put that back into conservation which will help this animal and then there's just this beautiful healthy ball that that keeps turning. Yeah. For the people that know it, they respect it and they appreciate it. You know, people like back country hunters and anglers and all these different organizations, Rocky Mountain Elk Federation, a lot of different organizations they have in the United States that really appreciate what they're doing to promote that idea here in America. But people that don't

hunt and don't go into it, it took me years to kind of wrap my head around it and really truly understand it and become educated as to how it works and how wildlife biologists set these standards and they do it based on healthy populations and how much time they spend doing surveys and analyzing the population, how important it is to these reports that hunters send in to wildlife

organizations and the department of fish and game it's really interesting stuff and i'm not a blanket killer even because i understand where those people are coming from as well we need to we need a certain amount of that because it could go the opposite way where it's like let's just go out and hunt everything and it's not the case if something's not in a good healthy population i'm not interested in hunting it at all myself. Of course, yeah. You know, I want to see these animals stay here for forever. I want my kids, kids, kids, kids to be able to see those animals in good, healthy population.

Yeah, like when I hear about limited entry tags for moose or something like that because it's a small number and they'll let a certain amount of people... Oh, what the fuck did you do, Adam Green? That's been sitting there for ages. That kombucha's got your name on it. This is why there's a towel here.

Has this happened before? No, I'm a slob. That's why the towel's here. I fucking spill everything. I've ruined two laptops, at least, right? At least two laptops during this show. That shit's angry. That's like angry.

America's dangerous. It is. Fucking kombucha. GT's kombucha is very dangerous. We're going back to the coffee. I found out in some places they have a small amount of moose, and they'll let you hunt a moose, but it has to be one moose,

and it has to be over 50 inches, and I'm out. I don't want to shoot that moose. How many of them are there? There's 200 of them? Get the fuck out of here. I'm not shooting that thing. Not interested. How many of them are there? There's 200 of them? Fuck out of here. I'm not shooting anything. Not interested.

No. What if the winter comes and kills a bunch of them off, which happens? What if wolves move in? Happens. Yeah. And that's why these tag limits and that change from year to year as well. Like I've seen them constantly change because they'll do their research or the kill wasn't big enough last year or the winner was too harsh and you know they start limiting tags yeah that's very i think in most cases in most cases we've got it right yeah i think so too what's one of the reasons why one of my favorite places to hunt is lanai

because lanai is stacked it's so out of whack we're fucking spotted little demons that just jump out of the way of arrows constantly. It's crazy. Yeah. An animal that evolved to get away from tigers. You can't believe how fast those goddamn things are. Yeah, crazy. And delicious. Yeah.

Do you think it's kind of a weird coincidence that the fastest animal you can hunt is also the most delicious? Yeah. Oh, totally, yeah. You know? Yeah. Like, yeah, it's kind of weird. Yeah, maybe. It's almost like a reward.

Maybe because they are delicious, they've You know? Yeah. Like, yeah, it's kind of weird. Yeah, maybe. It's almost like a reward. Maybe because they are delicious. Yeah. They've learned to move faster. I think a deer, so, you know, we say jump the string, like when you shoot. Like the deer hears the bow go off or something like that. And we call it jump the string, which you'll know about this, but a lot of people won't. They actually don't jump out of the string. When they miss your arrow, they actually drop to bound the way.

So they drop, load up their legs, and then jump, you know, but it's actually the drop. That's when you usually miss them. Well, that moves at over 1300 feet per second. A really good bow shoots at about 300 feet per second in a hunting situation. So you can't beat them. 1300 feet per second. That's how fast they start dropping. God, that's insane. Well, the thing about access deer as opposed to any other animal I've ever hunted is they don't just jump the string. They get out of the way. Yeah.

They're gone. Like a whole body length. They're gone. And you're just like, yeah. Like you have to, they have to not know you're there. Yeah, yeah. Like the first one that I killed this season had no idea I was there. No idea.

No idea I was there and it was a nice wind. So when that arrow hit him, he was quartering away. When that hit him, he had no idea it was coming, and it nailed him perfect. Yeah. Was that our trip or a different one? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That was when I got out of the car, and I saw one 15 minutes into the hunt. Yeah, big velvethead. Yeah, yeah. So I try and – it's the same with fellow deer back in Australia. Like, they're really fast off the mark. I'll try and shoot them when they're busy. You know, when they've got other noise happening, they're raking their antlers, they're stepping forward

or something like that. And the few that I shot in Lanai, one was scruffing with another buck. So he was all busy and he didn't move at all and it pegged him. The other one was in high winds in the grass and had the grass like moving around it and he didn't move. And then the third one was on a really still day and i actually aimed for his heart and he dropped and i ended up hitting him double lungs you know it's just they're so quick it's like you need to calculate

even right at the moment when you're like i'm gonna shoot it's like you need to wait for something extra to happen you know yeah well it's a great place to get accustomed to stalking and and hunting animals with a bow oh totally because the opportunities are so many yeah you blow one you're like i'll move on to the next one there's 20 000 deer and 3 000 people on a tiny little island yeah did you did you ever go out at night in a car like when you see them on the side of the road i think what i think i was in the car with you and there was like 400 coming across the road and it's just like all these little eyes just going it didn't even make sense it didn't even make sense and they hire people to go in there with sniper rifles and just take them out one after another it's crazy yeah and then something that's always got to me so like one

of the property owners that lives beside my property where i hunt he'll go out and because deer are vermin in australia and they've just been declassified they classified them as game animals for a year or a couple of years now they just declassified them because the numbers are just exploding so you can shoot them under lights you can you can do anything you can feed them you can bait them you can do whatever you want wow they just want to get rid of them yeah and uh so this guy he raises cattle and so that's what he has he'll go out at night and he'll shoot these deer and just leave them right where they lay not take any meat off them or anything but then kill one of his own cattle to fill his freezer and fridge and the first time he'd actually eaten venison was when I shot a deer

on his property and I cut it up and I actually gave it to him. That was the first time he'd ever eaten venison. Deer, and I'm like, John, you're like killing your own cattle, this delicious meat sitting right there. There's this wild resource and it's renewable because they fuck each other, they breed. Yeah, and so he's eating his own cattle instead of selling them? Yeah yeah and the other thing is this another way that i've always looked at it is these wild animals are there whether you like it or not they're there why place another cow or another

sheep in the paddock to put strain on the landscape if you especially if you're eating your own why not just go and shoot a deer it's a wild animal and you're doing the ecosystem of service by doing it and they're some of the most healthy animals you could ever eat they're delicious they're super healthy for you they're so rich in vitamins and nutrients and protein and the taste i prefer it over everything yeah i really do yeah and it's not just the taste it's a whole feeling thing like i went and got this got this. I earned this. I killed this. I know where this comes from. You're attached to it. We've spoken about it before, but when you get meat that's served in a package at the supermarket,

that goes through past hundreds and hundreds of people's hands and breaths and stuff like that. It's just like having sex with Scarlett Johansson in the virtual reality world. There you go. You didn't know that. There you go. That's the next detachment. That's it. It's going to be meat.

Instead of meat, it's going to be sex. That's the next detachment. Well, there's these people that are making artificial meat now. Or not just artificial. I shouldn't say artificial. It's real meat, but it's meat that's made in a lab. And that's the, I don't know what they're calling it, ethical meat or whatever the fuck they're calling it. But it's the future of meat production.

And, you know, this is making animal rights people very excited because they're basically going to have just lab meat. That's so fucking, yeah, so you know what's going to happen? No more cows, no more domestic pigs, no more, the shit that they love. Like the reason that cow's there is because there's a demand for meat. So that cow gets a life because there's a demand for meat yeah so that cow gets a life because there's meat right yeah no one's gonna let these cows and sheep and domestic pigs and shit run around on their landscape and take up real estate if there's no market for them well pigs are the weirdest one

because pigs like uh my friend whitney cummings she adopted a pig that where'd she get that pig i think it was from the fire right yeah And she actually wound up driving it to Texas. She drove in her car at 24 hours. She's a fucking maniac when it comes to animals. I think her and her fiance drove to Texas with this fucking pig to drop it off at this pig shelter. And damn, dude, when she's with that pig, that thing is like a dog. Might as well be my dog. It's just like hanging out. Put it on a head. That's awesome. Might as well be my dog. Yeah. It's just like hanging out.

Oh, they're an intelligent animal. But when they get loose and they're out in the wild, boy, they fucking breed three, four times a year. They'll have big piles of piglets and those piglets will destroy. They eat everything in sight. They're omnivorous. They're absolutely devastating to the ecosystem. For everything.

They're devastating to plants and ground nesting birds animals everything they eat everything in front of them they're pigs yeah and i don't hate them like i don't hate them i love pigs i think they're an unreal animal but the bigger picture is they need to be controlled they can't go out there and just ruin the you know our ecosystem like that well there's you're seeing in texas texas is probably in the united states is the biggest example of what happens when or the best example what happens when these feral hogs are just completely out of control they just devastate these uh agricultural farms yeah they have these farms and they're just getting destroyed yeah i mean it's all the wildlife other wildlife as well because they eat frogs and they'll eat

lizards and they'll anything that's on the ground that's edible they'll eat it yeah um i wrote an article years ago it was called uh killer at the pass it was a place in australia and the the property owners like the ranchers called me up and they said you need to come out and shoot some of the foxes like they're devastating our lambs and uh i end up going out there and when i was driving in with the four-wheel drive at night with the high beams on i seen this massive big black and white boar walking between the flock of sheep with a lamb in its mouth there was this pig and it got a taste for meat and it happens all the time like so a big boar especially a mature animal will get a taste for meat in harsher conditions and they'll just stick to meat after that and uh end up catching up with this pig the like so a big boar especially a mature animal will get a taste for meat in harsher conditions

and they'll just stick to meat after that and uh end up catching up with this pig the next morning and shot it with the bow it actually attacked me the first shot wasn't perfect and it charged me and i ended up like stabbing it to death i was on a slope like this on the mountain jesus and it was really a battle like and he ended up hooking the bow out of my hand because when he charged me, I put an arrow on and shot and just went down one side and hit one lung. And it just infuriated this boar and he was on me. And when I was fending him off with the bow, his tusk went into the bottom limb of the bow or the cam or something like that

and ripped the bow out of my hand. And I ended up getting my knife off me and I ended up stabbing this pig while it was trying to run me over. Holy up like stabbing this pig while it was like trying to run me over holy shit how big was it it was a big boar it was like big meat and meat eating boar like this and uh like how many pounds oh fucking big that's how many pounds 300 probably not 300 our mountain boars just get real solid yeah probably 200 or something like that and uh anyway i end up stabbing this thing to death and when i end up cutting it open its whole insides like its whole stomach was like lamb's hocks like the feet the bottom of the feet where they can't swallow and skulls and just like

little bits of uh wool and stuff like that he'd just been going around and just picking these lambs off and killing them wow yeah and it's a really known occurrence in Australia now that if things get harsh, they'll just go, they'll just, because they're just absolutely ruthless. They'll just walk right between the sheep and just fucking grab a lamb, walk off of it, chew it up and eat it. True. But anyway, first thing that morning that I found was a pig spew and it was like this fucking spew like this.

And it was the same, it was lambs, hawks and it was like spit to vomit. Oh. You don't say spew and it was like this fucking spew like this and it was the same it was lambs hawks and it was like spit to vomit oh you don't say spew in america yeah you do but i wasn't i thought maybe it meant something else to you yeah fucking spewing mate yeah spew i spewed out yeah that's what happened at disney yesterday fucking walt disney spewed all over me so they just threw up bones and just threw up bones and stuff that it couldn't digest, but yeah, end up lamb killer at the park. It's a destructive animal and they're so ruthlessly efficient in terms of like how much food they can eat. Yeah.

So a deer will walk along and it will pick, you know, it will just pick the tops off grass and the grass regrows, you know. A pig will go through and eat that grass and it will turn it over and eat the roots and everything as well. Causes a lot of erosion and then there's no regrowth because there's no roots in the ground Because they're greedy pigs They're greedy pigs, there you go You know they're the number one cause of death on farms?

Really? Yeah, apparently with domestic animals, people falling into pig pens And just into them They just devour. And, you know, when you're dealing with these giant domestic pigs, they get fucking huge. Massive, yeah. Hundreds of pounds.

Yeah, in like western New South Wales when times get tough, which is like seems to be fucking all the time now. But they'll get so desperate. Like you'll shoot a pig, you're going for the farmer, and you're just shooting them. You're not even really taking any meat off them because they're like, they're eating meat themselves and they're like skin and bones and disgusting. It's more of like a cull mission. And you'll come back in the afternoon and that pig will be completely skin and bones because the other pigs just get in there and just, and you'll hear them.

You'll just hear them just scream and it's the most god awful sound there is they cannibalize they cannibalize yeah i was in uh tahone ranch and we were walking by this really high grass the grass is like five foot high and you we were only like maybe 10 yards away from these pigs fighting and then and i said to ranella i said now come on man if you didn't know that those are pigs if I told you there was demons in that grass, you would completely believe it. Yeah. Because it was like, Oh, yeah, it sounded ballistic.

Were you hunting them? Yeah, it sounded like something from Lord of the Rings. Oh, that's the best sound when you're hunting. Yeah. Yeah, it was great. But it sounded like Lord of the Rings. It sounded like some horrific scene in a monster movie. Yeah, it sounded like an orc.

It really did. I mean, it's just, how is that the same animal as those cute little things horrific scene a monster movie yeah it sounded like an orc it really did i mean there's there it's just how is that the same animal as those cute little things that whitney cummings is yeah yeah totally because the one that she had was like all fluffy and sitting in her bed cute loving it she taught it how to go outside was it a pig no it was a pig that was the other thing she told me apparently those little pigs are not real All they are is just underfed Yeah right That's pretty fucking wrong

That's fucked up Like when those people have those little tiny pigs She's like that's not real Yeah They're just Oh it's a baby pig It's a tiny little pig It's just going to stay tiny

No If you don't feed it It'll stay tiny How about when Remember when they had the kittens in the jars? I think it was a Japanese thing or something. What? You'd never seen that?

No. They had like a little glass jar and they'd have a cat in the glass jar. What? I think they were always fake, but people were advertising it like, this is how you can have your cat. Holy fuck. Look that up, Jamie. You reckon this is going to explode?

That's real? There you go. Fucking kitty cat. No no they're fake those ones that's fake oh what the fuck look at that thing's eyes okay some of those look real so is it just for fun there's okay they're just for fun no i thought there was some real ones where they had the lid on them and everything Well you can guarantee someone's done that Those fuckers that have got their face blurred out Oh Jesus Christ

They apologize for stuffing a kitten in a jar Sorry Yeah What the fuck man Yeah People are capable of incredible cruelty Yeah That's why we need the other end of things that's why i say i can understand it you know you need that other

like i'm not extreme where i'm just like hunt everything but i'm sure there's a few people out there like that i've never met them where they just like kill everything then you need the other extreme where it's like no all animals are sacred don't touch any animals you know they can't be killed you know and then try and find that middle ground where you're like, no, all animals are sacred. Don't touch any animals. They can't be killed. And then try and find that middle ground where you're like, well, that's fucking ridiculous and that's ridiculous. This is where I am. I couldn't agree more. I think that's the perfect way to put it.

Yeah. Yeah, I think a lot of those animal rights people, it comes from a good place. Yeah, that's how I feel too. They care about animals. It comes from a good place. But their understanding of population control and wildlife management and just the reality of human beings it just they i just don't think they're getting it like with the mountain lion

thing one of the things they found with mountain lions in california is that almost 50 of their diet is domestic pets there's go to nature is metal go to nature is metal.com my all-time favorite instagram page so the mountain line i think he got his page back either he got his page back or they he had to open up another one but that guy has the most fucked up instagram sensitive sensitizing some shit at the moment kim kim had a uh video it's only like a 15 20 second video of her it was carrying a white-tailed deer out in Texas. There was no blood on it or nothing. You couldn't see that it had been gutted or anything like that. And they removed it and said it was violence. Okay. This is natureismetal underscore.

This is the backup account. You follow it though. Yeah. The other account's not up anymore. Well, click on the most recent one, that lion image. When is that from? December 20th. No, it's new. It's new. See if they're back up. Don't go to natureismetal underscore. Just go to natureismetal. Oh, metal.

I thought it said mental. Metal. Metal. So that's it. That's the real one. So scroll up. Keep going. So that's it. That's the real one. So scroll up. Keep going. And that's it right there with the car.

This is the quick and the dead. This is a Florida Panther in this guy's driveway. Snatches up a house pet. Watch this shit. This is what the fuck you have. This is what the fuck happens. So this guy's got his security camera running. Bam.

Oh, damn. That's a wrap. That's a rap. That's a rap, little fella. Is that a dog or a cat? Fuck, it nearly looks like a cat. It's a kitty cat. Yeah, kill the cat. Everyone likes a bit of pussy.

There's a, how dare you? There's a growing population of these things. They're endangered, but they're there. And, you know, basically, I i mean it's a subspecies i guess but it's basically the same thing as a mountain lion yeah right look at them i so the first time i did a little bit of research in google it just comes up that uh cougars are endangered in america and but when you start looking into it they're not at all they're on the least concern list in america because the population is thriving.

Yeah. And then when I spoke to DNR in Colorado about the cougar as well, they were saying that their populations continued to rise. Even with the tags that they've given out, their population just continues to rise. Yeah. And without dogs, you're just not going to hunt them. No, that's right, yeah. You might get lucky and stumble across one that's not paying attention to you're just not going to hunt them i mean the way the way that's right yeah you might get lucky and stumble across one that's not paying attention to you i'd love to

you'd want to have limitless time though you know like to actually that's the difference you know yeah i'd like to have limitless time and then just be like okay i'm dedicating a whole month to stalking cougars you know yeah well that's the knock on bear hunting as well the bear hunting in the 1990s they outlawed um dogs in california you can still hunt black bears i guess black bears are more accepted as a nuisance if the population grows because you know they'll they'll find your garbage yeah and then once they will see them as well but it's not just that once they find your garbage like that's where they go. Okay, coming back. Day in, day out.

They have a pattern and they develop these habits. But they stopped using bears, stopped using dogs rather than hunt bears in California. And then they stopped using baiting. So those two things are illegal. There's no baiting and there's no dogs. So good luck bear hunting. Yeah, yeah. Especially with a bow.

Yeah, pretty tough. Yeah. The baiting one's another one. Like, people don't like baiting, and I get it. You know, we've done it. It's not the same. No, it's not the same. It doesn't feel, it's not as good.

Yeah, I did it that one time with you. Yeah. And then, and I was sort of like that. It was still good. It was still cool. Yeah. And there's a tag in place, and there's a conservation act in place, but it just

I've got no desire to go back So I've done that now That's cool And that conservation is very important For the elk population The moose population The deer population Because they kill an estimated 50%

Of all moose calves Elk calves Deer fawns It's all black bears Yeah, yeah, totally And they're cannibals too they kill cubs yeah crazy i watched this one the other day because you hear people like if a bear charges me i'll climb a tree and the black bear climbs a tree like i mean fucking high dude runs it you've seen

it yeah and then there's a cinnamon black bear and she's got cubs and she goes so fast up that dude. Holy shit. You can't climb up a tree to get away from a bear. Just get the fuck out of here. Yeah, you're done. The big ones just don't want to do it anymore. Yeah.

But they could still do it. They could still do it. Yeah, they could still do it. Like the idea is like, oh, the big ones won't chase you up a tree. Yeah. When you see the speed that they go up a tree, then you can imagine the speed that they come across land. Yeah.

You know, and it's just like, because I always say, I always tell people about that one that was sleeping on an elk kill that I had, a grizzly. We showed that video the other day. Did you? Yeah. Yeah, we showed it on the podcast the other day. And I remember I yelled at that grizzly, the one that was sleeping on the elk carcass, and it fucking disappeared so fast and quietly dude and i'm like if you don't have eyes on one coming at you don't know it's going to come at you until you're hit until it's on you're fucking eating your face all those their pads are so soft yeah the pads of

their feet are so soft in order to sneak up on things i remember the first time i went uh bear hunting with cam and one was walking in he goes right there right there right there i turned to look i'm like it's not making any noise he's like they're so quiet oh this is that video yeah yeah here it is we're gonna go on up running dude galloping up the tree running yeah and some fucking scary shit it doesn't stop there either and ends up fucking hang on and that's a black bear with cubs So you can imagine that situation with the grizzly and her cubs. So fucking scary. And so that's a color phase. That looks like a color phase.

And the one on the top is the black bear, is the cub? No, that looks like a full-grown black bear. The color phase has got a cub back up the mountain with a... Yeah, that's some crazy shit. Fucking, o crazy shit fucking boy boy crocodiles don't fucking climb trees that's what i heard i heard they don't when are we doing this someone started the petition i fucking joe rogan needs to hunt australia yeah you keep trying to get me out there you got snakes too though bro you got spiders okay let's fucking kills people let's go over some shit here the whole season

in australia the whole season in australia i've seen two snakes one of them not poisonous like a red belly black steak not gonna harm you a friendly snake lava one a barely poisonous snake the whole season in australia what does that mean barely not very poisonous might kill a kid or a dog spiders you guys have though i didn't didn't. No, no. This giant. Thank you, Jamie. They're not going to hurt you. Thank you.

Talk to them. Fucking stay out of it. Hey, one thing I wanted to ask you about is the thylacine, the Tasmanian tiger. Yeah. I read that there was credible reports by people in the woods that they might have seen one. I wish. I don't think so, though. But it's so remote, right?

There's so many cameras now. There's guys who are scouting cameras that are putting it over deer wallows and stuff, like places that they would come in to drink. That was a big animal, right? Wasn't it? Yeah. How big did they get? Like 100 pounds, something like that?

Something like that. Might be a bit bigger than that. What a cool-looking animal, too. Oh, dude. And their mouths come open like this there it is scientists hunt for extinct tasmanian tiger after sightings in australia yeah that's probably what i saw i wish the what is that article from what year scroll up year 2017 oh really interesting a lot of the extinction was driven from people right so like because they're fucking meat eaters so they'd come in and start eating A lot of the extinction was driven from people, right? Yeah.

Because they're fucking meat eaters, so they'd come in and start eating sheep or whatever. They'd get shot by farmers and stuff like that, which is a shame. And I'm sure they didn't realize how they were doing it at the time. But they pushed them to extinction. If there's one thing that we should bring back from extinction, if it's possible, I believe they should be brought back. If it's possible, right? Yeah. If they have some DNA because, I mean, it would be nice to have some sort of an animal like that that could knock down some of the populations of kangaroos and deer. They probably wouldn't.

They'd probably just come in and devastate livestock populations and people's pets. It's all fenced in. But it is a shame. You've got to learn the rules. Yeah. But let me get back to Why you need to come to Australia Two snakes all year in Australia Fucking 17 snakes

In the first month in America dude 17 Aaron Schneider got bit the other day Did he? Yeah Bit his boot Really? Yeah

I think he was in North Carolina Or some shit I forget where he was Somewhere in the south My buddy Jase Struck his boot So this was the first hunt That I did when i

come to america we flew in the idaho and we drove straight down to southern colorado to hunt pronghorn and we're driving into the property at like 2 a.m in the morning and there's a pronghorn just standing on the side of the road you know it's just like it's dazed you know so my buddy jay's pulls up he walks over to it and like literally touches it on the head like it's like it's just like walking down the road and we're like did it get hit by a car next minute I see him jump back a rattlesnake had bit the pronghorn and he stood he had a leg on either side of the rattlesnake and it striked him it actually striked him twice it missed both times and I had to keep questioning him like did that bite you and he's like not not i'm like have a think about it did it fucking bite you and he's like no it didn't because i

watched it in the headlights go for him twice and uh once we set up camp we went back there and that pronghorn was dead it had killed that pronghorn wow yeah i'm like fuck america fuck america austral Australia is so much safer. A friend of mine was hiking and he almost stepped on a rattlesnake and he jumped back and then realized there was a nest of them. Holy shit, yeah. And there was little ones surrounding them. They were all over the place. He was like, fuck.

He was just jumping, hopping around one leg after another. Crazy. Yeah. I actually had- Apparently that happens all the time. Yeah, it does, yeah. And tarantulas there, dude. Everywhere.

There was just tarantulas walking over the ground everywhere. It was so fucking cool. The bold effort to prove the Tasmanian tiger is still out there. Wildlife biologist Forrest Galante has brought one species back from the dead, and he wants to do the same with the Tasmanian tiger. What the fuck has he brought back from the dead, and he wants to do the same with the Tasmanian tiger. What the fuck has he brought back from the dead, this goddamn Frankenstein? Unable to play.

The Cuban solenodon is one of the most curious animals on the planet. Small, shrewd. Shrewd? It must be shrewd-like creature. It's a mammal. It's a mammal, but a highly venomous one. Fuck, yeah, bring that back. Released it in America.

A single specimen found that was thought to be lost forever then unexpectedly three were caught just a few years later the extinct species marked on so that may be uh the case with the tasmanian tiger hmm it'd be awesome i hope so okay so here it is uh galante's a wildlife biologist made his life's mission to search for animals that have wrongly been deemed extinct, and among those species on his list is the Tasmanian tiger. The difficulty leads to these. Like, who the fuck has seen one? Keep scrolling.

See if anybody, like, legit has seen one. He's been traveling around the world searching for evidence of species like the Tasmanian devil, Pachylamour, and the Newfoundland white wolf still exist hundreds of species deemed extinct worldwide annual annually this process isn't foolproof and every now and then animals are rediscovered after they were thought to be gone forever but proving the animal still out there's no easy feat hmm i wonder huh i hope so yeah cool captured footage of a zanzibar leopard which is thought to be extinct for 25 years due to persecution by local hunters in the zanzibar archipelago in tasmania tanzania rather excuse me wow that would be fucking pretty dope if they actually did find

that thing it's a cool looking animal you know Yeah they can't be in good numbers anymore I know that much Must be tiny tiny numbers Yeah Like an animal like that Like where did they live? Tasmania

That's where the Tasmanian tiger And Tasmania is where? Down the bottom of Australia The bottom Yeah so it's a separate island Oh But it's that tiny little triangle that's down the bottom absolute beautiful island like that's the only place they lived

i believe so how big is that actually they might have been on the mainland and i think that's where the sightings have been oh yeah oh wow it's big tazzy how big is that place i don't know fucking big enough they don't allow any bow hunting there, so I've never gone. Do they allow hunting? Yeah, I think you can hunt with a gun for fellow deer. Why do they make you use a gun? I don't fucking know. Australians get some weird rules with guns.

Oh, yeah. You guys, like, have, uh, they bought up all the guns after a mass shooting, right? Is that what happened? Well, not all of them. I mean, if you were a license holder, holder like a shooter you had a shooter's license and you had a reason to have a gun then you could still keep your guns so you had to be like a member of a gun club i don't own any guns but you had to be a member of a gun club i don't own any guns in australia uh you had to be a member of a gun club have or have permission on a property where you're

hunting and stuff like that to to keep your guns it's they keep trying to make it tighter and tighter i think it's tight enough because criminals are going to get what they want right you know it's like how many people have been killed with a baseball bat fucking heaps are you going to ban baseball bats right how many people have been killed with a kitchen knife you're going to ban kitchen knives so i. How many people have been killed with a kitchen knife? Are you going to ban kitchen knives? So I think if you've got a legitimate reason to have a gun, like you don't have a criminal record, you don't have a mental illness or something like that,

you should have a right to have a gun. Right. So you basically do a safety course and training in Australia and if you've got that reason to have a rifle, then you can have it. No semi-automatics. There's a bunch of rifles and there's a bunch of guns that you can't have in australia it's pretty much like bolt action lever action and those rules might have changed as well i'm no expert on it obviously whereas in america every fucking one's

got a gun hey yeah like everyone i meet's got a gun i've got a gun too yeah because if everyone else has got a gun i want a fucking gun too it's true isn't it true and my guns for protection when i go into the wilderness for bears right or if i'm fucking in some weird destination someone comes in and tries to fucking rape or murder my family i'm going to use it right and uh yeah it's just funny like that but it's crazy to think and i know it changes from place to place that you know anyone could have a gun you know, it's like you're right. And to a certain degree, I agree with that. But as well, I think you lose that right.

If you've got a criminal record, you've got a mental illness or something like that, then fuck. Yeah, exactly. We want good guys with guns, not bad guys with guns. But banning guns isn't going to stop the bad guys from having guns. Well, at this point, it's like trying to take pee out of the pool yeah it's fucking so there's just too much when you uh when you hunt in australia you're not allowed to use a bolt action rifle you can use a bolt action rifle you can it's like the automatic semi-automatic oh like an ar you can use an ar yeah i think pump actions are being taken out now, things like that, yeah.

Huh. Yeah, because I would feel like, especially with population control, something like fallow deer, if you have that many of them, I know there's places that are just erupting with them, you would have to shoot them, right? Yeah, totally. Yeah. I mean, there's no way you're going to put a tent.

A lot of places, it's like the whole Californian thing, you know. They're still getting killed, but it's just a professional hitman that's doing it now. There's not the recreation behind it. And in Australia, a lot of the times, a good example is actually across the pond in New Zealand, where they're like, fuck, we need to shoot 30,000 ta, the ta that live in the mountains there. And because they're introduced, ta are introduced. And I don't think there was a lot of hunters arguing at the time and no one was really arguing that we needed to shoot some tar but

we weren't like fucking shoot 30 000 of them because they shoot them from a helicopter and they leave them rot on the mountain yeah they don't use any of it it's just a massive waste of resource you know and it's like they're never going to eradicate them all anyway and why would why they want to shoot 30 000 of them well they're introduced for to eradicate them all anyway. Why would they want to shoot 30,000 of them? Well, they're introduced for starters. Right. And fucking politicians work off money and fucking having a job to do. So they make a lot of these things up, you know. But I would think that the money would be in the hire or people paying to go hunt them.

Some of these towns live off hunters. Like the only reason that town is there, like all their income is hunters coming in and hunting these destinations. That's the reason why the animals are there in the first place yeah in new zealand yeah that's right yeah new zealand they were all introduced as by wealthy europeans they wanted to make it like a hunting destination yeah that's right which is so crazy they just threw a bunch of animals on the island this is our playground yeah like what the fuck yeah well new zealand is happy for it now because they've got something to hunt they've got game animals yeah but um if they're

truly causing that much damage then yes obviously like fin out the population but why not get hunters involved to do it why not promote hunting you know where the meat gets used you know whether where it's done properly and you know it benefits the communities and well there's a lot of hunting destinations in new zealand where people go to that are high fence places which is a little weird yeah because they're like just i mean even if it's a couple hundred acres or a couple thousand acres they're fenced in and the animals aren't going anywhere it's just different it's like what we're talking about before where there's like shallow fun yeah like i've never done it but i'd see that as like a shallow fun and then there's meaningful funds fucking walk the mountain find your own spot yeah you know well be actual

actually go into the wild don't fence the wild in and make it the not wild don't make it the domestic the hard bit the hard bit about saying that you're a cockade if you do it is it benefits some wildlife like there's oh yeah gazelle and shit that have been brought back from the concern list or nearly extinction because of high fence operations like in texas and africa oh yeah So it's like I suppose it has got its place, but there's different sorts of hunters. Well, there's also different sizes of these partitions. So if you're in a place like there's some places in Texas that are 10,000 acres,

look, that's so far beyond that animal's wild range that you might as well be in a wild, even if there's a fence, you know, 80 miles in that direction, when the fuck are you ever going to get to that fence if you're a deer? You're not going to. Yeah, it's true. I think maybe I'm a little bit closed-minded on it. It's the same thing to me.

It's like ideologically the same thing. I agree with you. It feels, you know, I've seen those places. It seems weird. It's like Jurassic Park. You go through these giant gates and inside those animals are fenced in. They're never getting out. Yeah, yeah.

You know they're in there. Yeah. There's no mystery. No, that's right. There's no mystery. That's what it is. And I like, I like the failure in hunting as much as I like the success, if you call like killing an animal the success bit.

Yeah. You know, I like that that the opportunity and you do everything in your fucking power still you work your ass off you know your fucking feet are bleeding if if they have to to get to the end of it but i like the idea that you can still fail on a hunt and i like failing on a hunt sometimes because it makes you realize fuck this is hard so the next time imagine everything you shot out you just smoked i'd fucking give it away in a day right i wouldn't be interested anymore well it'd be like farming that's right i like that failure because it makes you realize how fucking awesome it is when you get something well it also

it's different between hunting and any other way that you get meat because because it is so difficult and it requires skill, planning, intelligence. You have to have knowledge. You have to know how to play the wind. You have to know when to move, when to not move. It's a tactical situation where you have to use the right tactics to get in on this animal. Otherwise, it's going to smell you or hear you or see you. There's so much involved in it that's not involved if you're just acquiring meat any other way and

that's what it should take too because we're taking an animal's life so it should take that effort you know and it's like yeah you put so much heart and soul into it that even when you if you cut the meat up and it's like ruddy and tough you're like fuck this is delicious yeah well you were talking about your elk hunt in new mexico this year and how difficult it was and you guys were out there for over a month yeah yeah well we did we did uh oregon we did new mexico and we did montana for elk and we're just like busting our ass the whole time you know and then i end up getting one the it was like the one i actually really just wanted kim to get a shoot a bull her first bull you know because she's been going at it and And the one afternoon that she took off because she was doing some homeschooling with the kids and trying to get on top of all that,

the perfect opportunity popped up and I ended up shooting this bull and then we never had a good opportunity again, which sucked. But the thing is that's made her hungrier for it this season. She realises how hard it is, how difficult it is, and she'll appreciate it much more. That's what it should be. Well, it's cool that she is determined, that it's not discouraging her.

The difficulty, oftentimes for a lot of people, that difficulty because you're out there seven days, ten days, your feet are killing you, you're exhausted, and you're like, I'm just going to go to the fucking Super Bowl. Yeah, totally. I'm going to get a rifle. Kim's actually a really good example of what a lot of your audience would be because Kim's really been that city girl.

You know, like that's just been her life, you know. And then I had – it took about seven years to convince her to eat fucking venison, game meat. Really? Yeah, yeah. Wow. And how I did it was I shot a deer and it was just like a nice healthy young deer and i cut the back straps in the cutlets i think you guys call them tomahawk steaks so we call them cutlets i cut it in the cutlets and it just looked like lamb cutlets dude

and i cooked up these lamb cutlets and i served it and she fucking loved it like her and the kids were just like this is delicious i think i actually only had my eldest boy hunter at the time like this delicious and they loved it and i'm like that's venison that's deer because it was just the images i hated i had no idea what the meat tastes like she had no idea shooting a cute little deer yeah yeah and now it's the opposite where she doesn't feel as comfortable eating an animal that she doesn't know about you know because if if we put venison in the fridge freezer like it either goes past just kim's hands or my hands that's it you know where the animal come from you know that it was healthy you know everything like

that and and then cooking it and eating it and she feels a lot more and i'm not trying to put anyone down that buys me because like i said i still buy meat too and there's nothing wrong with that that's the population of the world it demands that but there's something that you don't feel as guilty about cooking your own meat yeah there's some sort of connection there that goes way beyond my birth yeah you know where it's like a real connection with hunting and eating the meat my littlest daughter loves fishing loves it and loves that we go fishing together and we caught yellowtail in uh hawaii and cooked it well i had the chef actually cook it in turn uh we stayed at a hotel and you know you bring it to the chef and the at the restaurant and he would made sashimi out of it and made uh ceviche and it was so good but she loves it she just loves it she caught something and brought it

in and she wants everyone to know that you're eating something that she caught yeah yeah yeah it's so cool yeah that's a good feeling well it's also i'm connecting her with the what what a fish is you know you go she likes sushi she's had sushi before now she's having sushi that she was there when the thing died she caught it she pulled it out of the ocean you know we took the hook out of its mouth we filleted like the whole deal she saw she saw every step of the way you know so i think there's still like a connection in people that's like it like sparks up again when they do something because we've done that for so long forever forever i think when you catch a fish, when it's on the excitement,

it doesn't necessarily even make sense if there's not some sort of a genetic component to it. Yeah. Because the excitement is so visceral. Yeah, yeah. It's so, like, it's genetic. Yeah, without that, it's like, what do you do? I'm pulling in a line.

It's got some weight on it. Something's spinning, you know, twiggling on the end. She's freaking, first of all, she wouldn't let anyone help her she like wanted to do it her she's fucking eight and she's got a 10 pound yellow tail and this thing's and i'm helping her by holding on to the rock that's all i'm doing because it's gonna get yanked out of her hand you know so i'm holding the rod to make sure it doesn't. And she's got two hands on the crank. And she's like. But she wouldn't give up. I go, do you want me to help you?

She's like, no. That's awesome. Yeah, she's so determined. Because when she did do it and brought it in, the thrill was so powerful. She wanted to be the one that brought it in. Yeah. It's so cool, yeah. I really believe there's like this ancient connection.

100%. Yeah. And it's like with hunting. I do hunting a lot now so it's i feel like i'm in my element but even the first time that i shot something and i was cutting it up for meat it was i felt so comfortable doing it straight away and it's like i've it's it was like i've done this a million times before a lot of people say the same thing a lot of people say the same thing that they're brian callan same thing. Brian Callen, in fact, said the same thing.

And he and I went hunting for the first time. And he's like, it just seems like something we've always done. There's a memory in our DNA. I mean, this is how we've survived. It was a great thrill. If you shot a deer 10,000, 20,000 years ago and you managed to bring that back to the village, like, holy's eating good yeah we're gonna get by we're gonna survive our children we're gonna get nutrition yeah there's this deep and meaningful feeling and it's not like you shot something like yeah yeah i fucking shot it it's not that feeling no you you feel excited you feel you like yes yes yes

but it's a different kind of excitement. It's sustenance. You're going to get nutrients. You're going to feed your family. And it's all because you did it the way you did it, especially bow hunting. You know how difficult it is. And you pulled it off. There's this thrill of success. And then there's this deep connection with your meat.

When I get an elk i i'd love eating that stuff so when i get one i'm like now yeah good now i've got meat i've got meat for months yeah and my friends have meat i have a fucking i have a gang of comedian friends that are eating elk all the time now because you know i give them sausages and steaks and i teach them like my friend tom papa he uh i've taught him how to like cook elk roasts you know like he calls like what do i do i'm like you got to keep it low and slow you want like 275 degrees get it to an internal temperature around 135 somewhere around then then you pull it sear it on the outside let it sit for 10 minutes he calls me up like

couple hours later holy shit i'm like yeah yeah that ain't like any anything else you're gonna eat it's funny it's because the hunt starts well the hunt probably starts here for you because you practice and shoot your target and then you go through all the preparation you go through the hunt you're successful you kill the animal the hunt doesn't end at killing the animal no that hunt continues to go and like you're eating that animal on your doesn't end at killing the animal no that hunt continues to go and like you're eating that animal on your plate yeah like that's the feeling that i get you know it's like and that that sometimes i'm like it's like why people call me a hunter i'm just a human this is a human thing to do right like go out catch your own cook it eat it survive continue

it is weird that it's so it's rare now yeah. Yeah. So how rare is it in Australia, like population wise? I don't know. Fuck all. There's not a lot of hunters. I feel like there is because I'm in the hunting community. So I know a lot of hunters. But if I go to any given person's house, that's not, most of my friends are hunters as well now. But if, say, I go to one of Kim's friends' houses, there's no there's no hunters in that house right you know and then i'll go to a workplace there's no hunters

in that workplace like it doesn't come up no one's they're like oh it's so weird that what you do you know it's not it's not like that even though it's a part of my family's heritage like um like my grandfather he'd go out trapping my uncles would go out trapping my dad would do a bit of hunting not bow hunting it was different you know it's and it was almost like it wasn't even called hunting back then that's what i always think about our ancestors like hunting's like almost like a modern word that we made up yeah because it would have just been something they do it would just been normal when you're hunting but everybody does exactly when you wash your clothes do you call yourself a clothes washer pull this thing in front of you so it doesn't no like this way you got it under your chin

it's gonna sound weird um that's better there you go it's clear yeah it's like if you wash your clothes yeah do you call your clothes washer yeah no fuck no fucking person everyone washes clothes unless you're a dirty prick you know everyone does that but because people know that i hunt like people will find me like in like if there's a guy, like, somewhere and, you know, like, he wants to meet me somewhere, it's like the first thing that comes up almost like instantly we know each other. Like, dude, you bow hunt? Yeah, yeah. You bow hunt?

Yeah, I bow hunt. It's crazy. Oh, all right, cool. Where do you go? It's like, oh, you know, we go to New Mexico every year. Oh, cool. None of your fucking business. Yeah.

There's a lot of that too, right? Yeah. Yeah. You and John Dudley had that talk about public spots. And you're like, because I agree. It's not your, like, you don't own it. Like, everyone owns public land. Yeah.

But I'll take this story back up for John. But to share that spot is not the done thing because it's like everyone should put their own in, in a sense. To go find a spot. Yeah, to go find a spot. And even if you're happy to share a spot, because I go to a lot of different spots and social media asks me to tell these spots,

and I never do because that spot could be someone else's paradise that they've fucking spent 10 years to find. find right then you give that information out to the masses so don't fucking ask you know that's the thing yeah that's the thing right it's like even though these places are beautiful and everybody owns them the last thing you want is what's happening right now in joshua tree right a bunch of people going there chopping down trees leaving fucking trash everywhere well that's one thing i really like about what you do too you always make videos of these trash that you pick up you pick bring a bag with you and you're well i started the thing so i brought a bunch of gear with me and i'm fortunate i've got really good sponsors and they send me a bunch of gear as well so i could do the trip over

here without bringing everything and i was walking around new mexico actually and i was looking at all the trash sitting around and i was like fuck it i'm going to give away all my equipment for this trip virtually all my main hunting gear backpack bow friggin yeti cooler whatever you know and uh for anyone that tags me in an image of them picking up trash and i'm not going to say the the description of it now because it's pretty much ended i've given the bow away and all my gear and uh because these hunters are doing that anyway but i just thought i'd really drive it home you know yeah and thousands and thousands of people tag me and then collecting rubbish out in public lands or wherever you know there's people that were posting me they were picking it up on the beach right here in la you know collecting rubbish so it was because it's disheartening when you've got that connection

to the wild, you see that, you know, like, fuck, that doesn't belong here. You know those balloons? Those balloons that float away? Yeah. Holy – they need to ban them fucking things. Because they drop somewhere. Someone walks out, they let them go, they end up somewhere. It's usually on the mountain, you know, the mountain ends up catching them,

you know. Yeah. Yeah, it just doesn't belong there. I was out on the trail yesterday with uh my dog and just came across this bud light can and i just stopped and just staring at this can down the ground i wanted to find the guy who did it and shove it down his fucking throat what person does that why would you just leave this yeah i always think of that i'm like who would do that like it's such a beautiful place and just be like just chuck it leave it behind.

I see it everywhere. Because a lot of people are like, I want to apologize on behalf of America. I'm like, fuck, that's not America. That's everywhere. That's people everywhere. But there's certain places that people are, there's different people. New Zealand's one of them. So New Zealand has like hundreds and hundreds of public land cabins.

Yeah. Like no fee, pretty much nothing. And if there is a fee, it's like five bucks. And you can hike in or drive to these cabins and you stay in there. And they've got mattresses in them. They've got beds. They've got the firewood's cut for you. It's left there by the hunters or outdoors people before you.

And they're in pristine condition. And there's a guest book too, right you're signing the guest book if that was in australia if that was in america it'd be so fucking vandalized it's not funny yeah but new zealand's got a certain type of people that go into the out the bush the mountains and there's a certain respect that comes with it and maybe it's from maori culture or something like that that goes with it where that just doesn't happen. The person that's there before you cleans it out. They sweep it out. They clean it. They leave a bit of tin food there or whatever. They cut new firewood. They stack it where it can stay dry. Things like that. And it's something that goes without saying with

me and my people how we sort of do. That's how we are. Respectful for the land but there's so many people that aren't. That's a beautiful thing if you find a community like that, that everybody agrees to respect that area, everybody agrees to do that and take care of things. I mean, if you can really come across something like that, like when you're talking about New Zealand, there's just a great feeling of community that comes with that. Yeah, totally.

There seems to be a tight hunting community in America as well where obviously none of that thing would happen. But there's so many people that go out into the outdoors that they belong there. So I don't want to say they don't belong there. But the truth is as soon as you litter or something, you don't fucking belong there. Right.

Yeah, go back to your own fucking trash house, you know. Yeah. Yeah, it's just so unfortunate. It's unfortunate that people do think like that. They think so selfishly. They just throw a water bottle on the ground. They don't care. Yeah.

No one's going to notice. It's out here in the wilderness. That's what it is. It's so self-centered that it's like no one or nothing else matters, you know. There's so much of that. There's so much of that. That's what I think is getting worse. Well, it's people doing a

poor job of raising people you know they're not paying attention yeah you know it's a they're raising shitty humans yeah i want to fight it like i've constantly been fighting it and that's why i have a social the social media and stuff to keep promoting the outdoors and good things in life and things like that but another part of me is like and i nearly did it last year i just like fuck i want to go off the grid like like really off the grid so solar powered you know a couple of thousand acres of my own stuff like that and just because kim pretty much only eats game meat now as well like that's how we've gone so we just want to eat game meat it's like the next step would be having our own chickens, collecting our own eggs, growing our own vegetables, like living off the land, you know.

Do you want to have like a phone out there? Fuck no. So how long would you live out there for? Forever. Forever and ever and ever? Yeah. How am I going to get in touch with you? I'll have a phone with your number in it only.

I just felt like cutting it all out, you know, like fucking cutting bills out, cutting all that shit out, cutting contact out. Yeah, I get that. Do you still run your company? To a degree. I've got really good people that run it. Unfortunately, my business partner, she's an indigenous woman in that area. She just passed away a couple of weeks ago.

Oh, I'm sorry to hear that. Yeah, which is pretty sad. How long have you known her? She's my stepmother, so a long time. Yeah, so it's my dad's partner. And so the indigenous, like they don't really live to a long age. They're just, they're sort of,

they're unhealthy in a sense because they're so not used to our process you know refined foods and things like that and because you know indigenous how old's australia it's only a couple hundred years old right and um so you know to get the 60 it seems like it's a freaking miracle for them so So I'm not sure how old she was, but she wasn't very old. And so unfortunately she passed away. She was on a dialysis machine and her heart was really struggling and ended up giving out. But sorry, where was I going?

I get it. You know, you were just talking about being off the grid and whether or not you still run your company. Oh, yeah. So I've got really good people that run the business for me. Everything's done by emails and phone calls, and I hardly do any of that anymore. I got my hear from them once a month if need be. But I'd probably look at selling the business, especially after this has happened.

After she's done. Yeah, yeah. Probably look at selling the business especially after this has happened after she's done yeah yeah probably look at selling the business but it just depends her son um her son's going to take over her partnership you know the joint venture with her and stuff like that which would be really good for him and still you know allow an income into the family and things like that so so we'll just see where it goes but yeah i was really thinking about going off the grid and just like i've always wanted to be like that i've you know i just i love that lifestyle time seems to go a lot slower when you're out in the woods yeah for starters you're doing exactly what you want to do you know i like being in contact with the world though i like both it's like i do appreciate off the grid times but for me i like them as like vacations yeah

but i like being in contact i want to know what's happening with the world i like i like being i like being aware of cultural change i like being i mean it's also because of what i do for a living oh for sure yeah i sort of don't i don't care for it like we don't watch the news at home we don't tune into anything like that we just sort of live our life and it's like what affects us unless it's affecting the greater community in a sense for the worse you know because the country's run by fucking clowns that's how i feel your country as well oh yeah fuck what's worse These fucks are too busy trying to look good in parliament and argue with each other to get anything actually done. What are the big issues in Australia?

I don't know because I don't tune into it anymore. Well, you guys have crazy immigration laws. You don't let anybody go over there. It's like people who think that the United States is rough with this whole wall thing. Oh, yeah. Australia takes that to a whole new level. They ship people to an island. Yeah.

Right? Christmas Island. It's a fucking nice island, though. Is it? Yeah, yeah. Well, think about what you guys are. I mean, you guys were a place that the British shipped all their prisoners to a way better place. I did all the security fencing around some of the detention centers.

So, pretty much, you're on that island you know and then you get shipped to like the hottest most fucking arid part of australia like it's deaf and i did the fencing around there and then i believe they're there for so long and then they can you know they either get shipped back home or they can go out to the broader community in australia which they get treated very well, obviously. So is it just an assessment place? Like, were they trying to find out if you're a criminal? Yeah, definitely. Are you violent?

Yeah, I think that's the important thing. You know, that's why you can't just have open borders. You know, some terrorist comes in. Right. Some guy that thinks fucking rape's fine. Some guy that thinks, you know, crazy shit's fine, you know, assess those people and fucking send them off. thinks you know crazy shit's fine you know assess those people and send them off or yeah but the if you did that in the most arid part of america people would be so angry because people start dying well people are angry in australia as well and i think that has been deaths and stuff like

that what are you supposed to do it's a tech you know it's a very uh it's a hard situation yeah it's not something that's just like no just let them through no fuck no and it's not like just don't let them through right you know it's that middle ground again you know let's assess them let's work it out because i always think what if i was in their shoes you know i've got kim and the kids or whatever and now we're in a country that's war fucking stricken i'd be trying to get the fuck out of there too yeah no matter what it took yeah you know well not no matter what it took but but you You know? Well, not no matter what it took, but. But, no, of course. Yeah.

I mean, I always say that about people that are talking about people sneaking over this country. I'm like, this country is made out of immigrants. Yeah. It's an immigrant country. Yeah. And what do you expect when you've got someone fucking good? The whole fucking country's immigrants. Yeah.

I mean, that's like people in LA saying they don't want anybody moving to LA. Yeah. Like, bitch, this is all LA is. Where are you from? I mean that is That's like people in LA Saying they don't want Anybody moving to LA Yeah Bitch This is all LA is Where are you from Well look at Australia Like where If you're fucking white

You're an import Right And by the way If you are one of the Original people That came here I mean One of the original

European settlers You're probably a Fucking slave owner Yeah yeah Your grandparents Were slave owners Like if you Didn't come over here as a recent immigrant,

like I'm third generation, my grandparents came over here from Europe. If they didn't, then if they were here for 10, 15 generations, they're probably fucking slave owners. Yeah, exactly. So stop. I actually, I never feel a real good connect with anywhere I go, including my home, Australia, because I'm not indigenous. You know, it's like weird. So I've always looked at because you know i don't worry about fucking flags or borders

or anything like that i've just always looked at the world the world's home well especially because you spend so much time with the indigenous people in australia yeah yeah because of work and and that you know like and no disrespect to any flag i love the flag and i love what they stand for but it's only someone's design a board is only something that someone's put on the map yeah you know it's it's like a real weird thing like that it is a weird thing but also you want to protect people from people that come from a place oh 100 it's unless the whole world was the same unless every the whole world was on the same level you know we're not going to do this we're not going to do that this is illegal this is fine unless the whole world was like same unless every the whole world was on the same level you know we're not going to do this we're not going to do that this is illegal this is fine unless the whole world

was like that then borders would be easy to cross well that's essentially what america is we've been talking about this a lot that america is essentially like europe but everybody speaks the same language but you can go to any country like new mexico is fucking way different than miami yeah right miami is way different than la la is way different than seattle Yeah. Right? Miami is way different than LA. LA is way different than Seattle. Yeah. Those are all almost like completely different places. But they're all, you could go to them. I mean, ideally, that's where it would be.

It would be, you could travel to anywhere where the opportunity was, where you thought you can get a good job and you want to better yourself and your family, you'd have an opportunity. Yeah. The fact that currency and life values are different, for starters, is why that can't happen. Yeah. But it'd be nice. It would be nice.

It would be nice if one day the whole world rises up. And when you look at the Western world, whether it's Europe or the United States and places where things are going really well, or Asia, it would be nice if the whole planet was like that. If there was no third world if everything was fantastic if everything was just basically just like we're talking about here hey you can live in phoenix or you can live in billings montana or you could live in massachusetts go wherever the fuck you want that's what we have here and we have a real

unique thing in this country and that's why people want to come here yeah it's fucking good it's pretty dope i hear a lot of because you always hear the negative things and i hear a lot of people ragging on america and their own country and stuff like that you know this is fuck this fucking america is brilliant australia is brilliant these countries are all so fucking lucky to be here yeah you know because you look at other parts of the world you're like fuck yeah they can't feed their baby yeah you know what i mean yeah like yeah yeah i think africa like i always threaten my kids and it's not a fret because they love it but i always say i'm fucking taking to africa because uh however long ago when i went to africa like i was watching

little babies in a village crawl around in like three, four inches of dust. You know, every second person you met had fucking war scars on their face, you know, in Mozambique and Zimbabwe. And you're driving down, there's a roadblock. There's dudes with fucking AK-47s that are duct taped together. There's a guy on the side of the road with a fucking bazooka or a rocket launcher. And you don't know if they're friend or foe, you know, and this is just normal everyday life going for Africa. There's a tourist bus on the side of the road.

It's fucking burnt out and there's just bullet holes sprayed through a line of the windows, you know, and shit like that. And it's like, fuck, this isn't Australia. This isn't America. Like, this is different. And sometimes, and my my kids they're grateful but they're on a different tune than me you know and i'm just like fuck they need a trip to africa and they can see not that i'm trying to expose someone else's life so my kids realize like

but just so they can feel you know like you've got a good you know you've got a good life you like appreciate it like it can be a lot harder. It's hard to appreciate, right? It's like we were talking about going into the bush. If you go into the bush for seven days, then you come out, you appreciate hot water. You appreciate sunshine if you've been out in the rain. But it's hard for people to appreciate it without actually experiencing it. Because you can only conceptualize it so much in your head unless you're actually there. It doesn't do it.

No, it doesn't. And that's virtually reality is never going to touch on that either. No. No, it's going to turn us into some weird spongy looking fucking soft jelly bag. Exactly, yeah. I'm worried. I'm really worried about the future. But I guess that's just what happens. I mean, because it seems like, yeah. I'm worried. I'm really worried about the future. But I guess that's just what happens.

I mean, because it seems like, look. Well, my old nan and pa would have been saying the same thing about our generation now. Well, we are soft as fuck in comparison to chimps, right? Our ancient, ancient ancestors were something like chimps. They're probably looking at us now. They'd be like look at these pussies with their shoes and they need houses you can't even sleep in a tree you fucking dummies you know what i mean like they totally but we don't want to live like that either you

know maybe the matrix would be so beautiful we're like this adam green should be running around with a fucking gun that doesn't work sticking it in the face of a that's fucking funny i um if i'm hunting and it's raining i always what gets me out there and continues me to hunt in the rain of a that's fucking funny i um if i'm hunting and it's raining i always what gets me out there and continues me to hunt in the rain is i'm like it's fucking water like i have a shower every night when i'm at home i get the dry off afterwards yeah but i'm like have you ever seen animals in the rain like an animal will be like feeding and it's sunshine just feeding and then it will start pissing down raining it just keeps feeding yeah it doesn't even fucking like what it doesn't look it's just fucking life you know that's life and i always think i'm just an animal

like what's the difference i'll get hyperthermia and die well you have gore-tex but okay yes you get some underarmor gore-tex clothes on you're fine and then it's like but even if you don't it's like fuck whatever you just wear it's just water well the technology today like what they figured out for outdoor gear is so good. You wear, you know, like merino wool, which even when it gets wet, keeps your body warm. There's the water protection of this gear. It's so good. There's so many different companies that make outstanding stuff now.

You can be fine in the rain now. Exactly, yeah. Yeah. And, yeah, I just think we just keep getting so removed. Like, as soon as it rains, like, everyone runs to the car or runs to runs to the car runs how about here here they don't even know how to drive yeah oh they fucking panic oh my god a little bit of drizzle everybody's like ah and then accidents everywhere people don't know they don't realize it gets slippery you dumb fucks change your driving fucking la has been it's so goofy it's nearly upsetting because i'm like people have to do

this every day to go to work oh like traffic some people's lives oh yeah i'm like what the why the fuck would you do that like but people they're fucking caught up in the whole system if you drive out to like uh like you go up the five and head towards like Palmdale or Bakersfield or any place out there. And you see traffic at like six o'clock in the morning, bumper to bumper. Just ridiculous. Just all people making it to LA. So they drive an hour all the way out to Palmdale, hour 15, hour 20, because the rent is cheaper. And then they make their way or a home price is cheaper.

That's their life. Yeah, their life every day is three hours plus of driving in the car. Orange County, the people that live in Orange County, that place is fucking dense. Crazy.

It's beautiful out there. It's great. Great place to live, but God damn, if you have to go anywhere, like if you have to drive to Hollywood every day, good fucking luck

keeping your sanity just probably in the car right now listening to us going fuck sorry what is this i5 reopens in the grapevine after what is this snow last month when it first snowed like this is uh the passing i5 everywhere you're saying like palmdale area this is it was snowing in palmdale it just shut everything down yeah oh look at the amount of people. They got stuck. Look at the amount of people. If someone's got a goal and they're aiming towards that goal

and they're doing a job to get that goal, then fucking good on them. But other than that, if you're doing this for a fucking dead-end job. Vehicles just sitting on the highway covered in snow. Yeah, that's where you want a four-wheel drive truck with some good fucking knobby tires. Fuck no, that's when you want to four-wheel drive truck with some good fucking knobby tires. Fuck no. That's when you want to just ring up and say, I'm not coming.

Yeah, that too. Damn. Yeah. Not good. I feel so sorry for anyone that's caught up with that. It's so rare that it snows out there too. No one knows what the fuck to do when it snows. I grew up in Boston and in the snow, I had to drive every day in the snow because I delivered newspapers.

That was my job from the time I was like 17 till I was 22-ish, somewhere around there. Maybe the last time I stopped, 22, 23. I got up every fucking morning. So it taught me two things. One, it taught me discipline because I had to be up at 5 o'clock in the morning no matter what, even earlier on Sunday because it was big, thick Sunday papers. You had to make multiple trips. I even had a van.

I bought a cargo van just to deliver newspapers in, some shitty cargo van. I forgot to change the oil. Engine seized on me. I brought it to the guy, and I go, what's wrong? He's like, you didn't have any oil in it. I'm like, fuck. Not good with cars. it to the guy and i go what's wrong he's like you didn't have any oil and i'm like fuck not good with cars but i drove in the snow every day man so if i'm in the snow today i'm like and i feel

my ass and kick out i'm like whoa hey i know what to do here i don't panic i don't slam on the brakes like i drove a lot in snow did you remember having like a set goal at that point, doing that job? No, I just wanted to not work. Yeah. And nobody could tell me what to do when I was in my car. Because the thing about it is I had a job. This was my task. I had hundreds of houses that I delivered newspapers to.

But I didn't have anybody with me while I was doing it. So while I was doing it, nobody was telling me what to do. Nobody was yelling at me. Nice. I listened to the radio, listened to to talk radio and just listen to music think about jokes and shit and just throw newspapers out the window yeah it was nice yeah it is it was nice to not have someone it was better for me i would way rather work seven days a week and it was only a few days a few hours a day so even though it was every single day

it was only like three hours a day you know i was done by eight and i'd go back to sleep now you got the biggest fucking podcast it's crazy i so i've been self-employed since i was 21 really yeah yeah and i had a big media company reach out to me not so long ago. And the biggest thing that turned me off because the pricing and everything was right was I'm like, I fucking can't take orders. What would they want you to do? I can take orders. Podcast types? Yeah, pretty much. I own a lot of my content.

And unfortunately, a part of that would have been changing some of the companies that I'm with. And like I'm friends with the companies I'm with. I'm with those companies because they're what I want to use. You mean like hunting companies? Yeah. Yeah. But the thought of having to be on someone else's timeline then, I was like, I fucking don't want to do that. Like right now, I'm just doing me and whatever happens, happens.

And it's like your situation you know yeah if i even had a guy that i had to check in with once a month and say so uh everything looks good we got an upward trend here i'd be like i would that fucking phone call would be haunting me yeah and i'm such a spare of the moment guy you know like this hunt's come up i'm going there right i want to do this with the kids or kid in the family i'm going and doing it i really like that so relaxing dude to be like that and that's why i built the business that i've got to where it is as well where i don't have to be at work continually how often are you putting out your podcast right now i've put a hold on it since this trip because it's just been so even though this trip would have been epic to do it on i just i just haven't done it because i'm everything's like so fast forward it's insane

plus you have the kids with you that's hours out of the day that you just don't have exactly yeah but as soon as i get back home which is like uh middle of february after the western expo then i'm gonna start pumping it again i love doing it it. The Expo in Salt Lake? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love doing it. When is that? When is that in Salt Lake? I think it's like 15th, 16th, 17th of February maybe. Really? Yeah. Oh, so you're going to 15th, 16th, 17th.

You should get along. I've been there before. February 14th. February 14th to the 17th. Dad is free. Western Expo in Salt Lake City, Utah. Dad is free. But Dad is not free on the 14th.

That's Valentine's Day. You got to pick your battles, son. You do. You got to pick your battles. Hell yeah. You got to pick your battles. Yeah. You got to know what to do.

I make sure that I take plenty of family vacations around hunting trips. Yeah, totally. Well, you just went over to the Big Island, didn't you? No, we went to Maui. Oh, did you? Oh, awesome. Yeah, we did that for New Year's. Yeah. Yeah. I decided to stop working on new year's yeah because right now i can't really work anyway

like legitimately for a couple months because i don't have enough material because i just did a netflix special and i want to make sure i don't want anybody coming to see me and i'm half-assed you know so if i'm doing sets around la right now, I could rock it for 20 minutes or a half hour. That's easy. I mean, that's not easy, but it's doable. It's legit.

I don't feel like I'm a fraud. Like if I do a half-hour show, that's a real half-hour show. But it's not a real hour show. There's a big... Because an hour show, like in a theater or an arena, I really need an hour and 20.

Because you got to make sure everything's good. It's just... There's a giant responsibility. You don't want to leave anybody. People get babysitters and they take time out of their day. I got to be prepared, so I work hard at it. So I was thinking about New Year's and when it came, they were trying to set up New Year's gigs for me. And I'm like, not only am I not ready, I don't think I want to do it because it seems like such a big event. Totally. Like New Year's is like, it's New Year's gigs for me. And I'm like, not only am I not ready, I don't think I want to do it because it seems like such a big event.

Totally. Like New Year's is like, it's New Year's. We're out. I can't believe it. We're celebrating. It's like Vegas on crack. You know, it's like the whole thing is just ramped up so far past normal. It's so weird.

It's like a show show. So we were out in the desert. It was just me, Kim, and the kids on New Year's. And everything else just fucking turns like normal. But the human race, it's like, because it's written on a calendar, it's like this big deal, you know? Yeah. And it is cool, but fuck, New Year's seems like such a good time

just to chill for me. Yeah, it was a good time to chill. Yeah, we went to the, you know, we were staying at a resort in maui and was beautiful and the food was great and it was the beach was great yeah just fucking awesome just chill yeah i need more of that in my life i need more chill time just everything i'm just doing so many different things like i have to balance it out with nothing sometimes there's because when i'm go go go sometimes i'm just like fuck i just want to sit on the couch and i feel lazy as fuck when i do it because i'm so used to going but that

sitting on the couch and watching a movie and just chilling it's like you recharge holy shit yeah you recharge yeah it totally is and it makes you hungry to go go go again yeah you know sometimes i need that i need that for that took me a while to figure that out with stand-up too. So like sometimes I need to take little breaks just to recharge my imagination, recharge my enthusiasm for it. There's a balance in life. Like you can't work out five hours a day every day. You break your body down. Yeah, totally.

You need breaks. And I think you need breaks with your imagination. You need breaks with enthusiasm, with everything. Let the mind reset. Yeah. Yeah. So what are you doing while you're in la like how long are you going to be here for uh we just like so we did disney

with the kids and just chilled out we're leaving tomorrow heading back to utah salt lake city what are you gonna do up there pretty much getting organized to go back home so i'm gonna drop the i've got that winnebago trailer i'm gonna drop off there and yeah i'm gonna go visit hoyt yeah yeah i'm gonna send out a bunch I've got that Winnebago trailer. I'm going to drop off there and unpack. You're going to visit Hoyt? Yeah, I'm going to go visit Hoyt, yeah. I'm going to send out a bunch of this shit that I said I'd give away and stuff like that. Then we're going back to Utah. Utah's been our base pretty much.

Some friends are up Utah. Going to go back to Utah and pack up a bunch of stuff. And then I've got a bison hunt that I'm going to do. That's the last hunt while I'm in America. And then down to the Western Expo, we've got a, a like a we're screening one of the movies that i did there i did a movie over in new zealand and uh the boys from bow hunt down under in australia filmed it for me and they did a fucking awesome job well the one you guys did with cam the under armor one was fantastic that was really good yeah they were good they did a great job with that. They're funner to do than what the fucking movie is

because, you know, they want to cut it down to 20 minutes. They made that one pretty long where it was 20-something minutes because me and Cam had like two weeks together fucking running around going wild. It was awesome. And there's so much that they can't show

in that 20 minutes. Of course. You know, and like some really cool shit. Yeah. But I'm hoping to get Cam out again this year. I've got those two buffalo hunts lined up. And yeah, you need to come out too, which would be fucking awesome.

You're out of your fucking mind if you think I'm coming out of Buffalo land. I'll tell you what I was going to do. I had it all fucking planned out. What are you going to do? Build a city out there? This whole trip I've been... No, no. What I've been doing in America,

I've been collecting fucking spiders i've been doing in america i've been collecting fucking spiders and snakes and shit like that and i was gonna let them all fucking go in the studio dude i was i was gonna let them all go in the studio i'm like fuck he'll never have me on again if i do that but i was gonna bring one in here with me to show me just fucking no i was just gonna let it out halfway through the episode and see if you could carry on i had it all fucking lined up and then i got changed because i had to go to arizona i didn't get go back to idaho where all the fucking creepies are yeah i had to let them all go did you go to idaho at all this trip heaps so it was fucking amazing that's idaho might be like the undiscovered gem like like the unrecognized gem in this country.

There's fucking no one there, dude. There's no one there. There's no one there. But Boise is fantastic. I fucking love that city. I had a great time there, man. It's beautiful. And the mountains out there are so gorgeous.

Yeah, it is. It's a pretty place. So our friends are based there. So every time we fly in, every year when we fly in, I usually in the idaho first right up high near uh spokane like near washington and then uh we end up driving from there to southern colorado southern colorado new mexico new mexico back to southern colorado because kim had a pronghorn tag stealing she ended up tagging a pronghorn then this is how much shit i've fucking done on this trip i can't i had to get kim to fucking write it down because i'm like where have we been it's

been hectic and um i think i've been to idaho like four or five times in this trip like back and forth back and forth wow yeah did you ever go to corderlain yep yeah i haven't that's where my friends near corderlain it's. I heard the water is so clear. You can see like 100 feet down to the bottom. It's a fucking nice spot. I've got to bring up this message and read it out. Yeah, it's been crazy. Yeah, so we flew into Idaho.

Then we went to Southern Colorado. Then we went to New Mexico. Back to Southern Colorado. Back up to Idaho. And then I end up flying out. No no we end up driving to eastern oregon to hunt bull elk then i end up flying out to arizona to hunt elk as well on the navajo reservation which was really cool then we then i flew to b, 100 moose. Then I flew back. Then we went to Kentucky.

I drove all the way to Kentucky with the kids, which took like four or five days. That was fucking insane. We took our time. We were sort of checking it out. You know where there's nothing? Where? Where there's absolutely nothing? What?

Nebraska, dude. Holy fuck. think what nebraska dude holy fuck we drove for hours and hours through nebraska and like seen nothing but like cornfield or something like that sorry anyone from nebraska but nebraska was boring as people from nebraska right now oh my gosh they're tuning in i'm sure there's some pretty places yeah i don't think so i think they know about it. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Wasn't that, was it, oh, Kansas was Dorothy, Wizard of Oz. Yeah. Then we went to Texas. We drove down to Texas.

How long you guys been here? Four plus months. Your kids are holding up remarkably well. Oh, they're awesome. They look like they're having a good old time. Yeah, they are, yeah. At least in front of you. There's been some good arguments on the way but

i'm sure they're pretty good i'm like fuck they're like either locked in a trailer or locked in the car or we're in like an airbnb or something like that and they're all gathered together and and it's not until you're around other people's kids that you realize how good your own kids are like that's because i'm always like they're naughty you know and then they're you're around other kids you're like fuck our kids are saints what are you santa claus yeah they're naughty but yeah then we went from texas to utah hung out at utah for a while then i drove back to colorado come back to utah again well what's ironic is that you as an australian and your family as australians are getting to see more of america than most americans

ever do that's how i fucking get out there and do it. Get out there and do it. Get out there and do it. It's a beautiful place we live in. Yeah. I think some people don't have the means to, you know, like, and that's why people are driving through this fuck traffic every day to try and make the means to do that, you know?

Yep. Yeah. It's a grind out there, fuckers. Yeah. It's a grind. Yeah. The traffic does my fucking head in concrete does my head in mass people do my head in like i'm walking around disney like fuck yeah but isn't

it fun to do like every now and again i like to go to new york city every now and again just go jesus all these fucking people have you been have you been in new york yeah yeah it's crazy that's the trippiest trip in all of this fucking wild ass country i think look the reason why hunters get so much flack from a lot of people is because they are stuck in that they don't know the other end of things yeah you know they don't know the wilderness side of things because they're fucking jammed in there i always think like that's why i love promoting it as well so much like people don't even know about this they don't even know it exists they don't even know this is something you can do they don't know the rewards from it also they feel morally

detached from the food that they're eating like they don't feel like an obligation to their food they don't feel like uh they don't i mean it's just a steak yeah there's no there's no connection and because of that they don't feel like they did anything wrong no that's right whereas you know if you shoot a fawn and, you know, and you're like, oh, you shot a baby? Yeah, yeah. You know, like, oh. Like, what do you think your veal is, stupid?

Yeah. What do you think lamb is? I had four legs and was running around. Did you order the rack of lamb? Yeah. Yeah, you ordered a baby. Yeah, exactly. That's a baby.

Lamb is a baby sheep, you fuck. But most people don't know that. That's weird. So I don't hate on it because I understand it. Like, the population of the world demands that. Yes. But if someone hates on me for it, then you've got to point it out. I'm still not hating on it.

Yeah. I'm just pointing it out. Oi, you're doing the same thing but someone else is doing it for you. Yeah, it's out of ignorance for sure. Yeah. And even if you're a vegan or a vegetarian, you know, that still kills animals. Like have a look at the cleared land.

To be a vegan, they need the clear land, you know. So it's like have a look at the cleared land to be a vegan they need to clear land you know so it's like that's that whole middle ground again yeah unless you were organic farm yourself if everyone went vegan we'd fucking have to clear mass amounts of land kill mass amounts of animals and everything like that do you know what i mean well and if everyone went hunters then fucking we'd slaughter the fuck out of so much wildlife. It's not funny. Well, on top of that, you wouldn't be able to just let those animals loose. No, that's right.

You'd let all the cows loose. You'd have bulls slamming into fucking cars on the street. And just devastating ground that can't be trampled on or shit like that. But it's that middle ground. Yeah, some vegans and vegetarians are good. Some hunters and that are good. And then there's that middle ground yeah some vegans and vegetarians are good you know some hunters and that are good and then there's that middle ground which is all the normal cunts you know that just understand like i've got to eat meat it's not actually damaging you know i can eat some vegetables that's not damaging like it's just everything in its place yeah you know that's

i think your perspective is very healthy that it's good to have these extreme animal rights activists because it balances everything out. We need balance in this world. Yeah, I agree. Just don't fucking mouth off at me about it. Don't mouth off. That's all it is, you cunts. Why does cunt sound so much better with an Australian accent?

Because it's so normal in Australia. That's what it is. Even when your wife says it, it's just like it's normal. Yeah, yeah. It's normal. So our friend Sam Soholt, which he put up a post and it was about some politician. I got his shirt right here. Yeah, there you go.

Beautiful. I was wearing his shirt earlier today. He makes some awesome shirts. Yeah. I was sweating and otherwise I'd wear it here. Public landowner. That's it, baby. Shout out to Sam.

Hell yeah. My boy. So he put this post up and it's about this politician that you know he he goes you know it's a pretty decent fucking writing that he's done up about you know how the guy's not doing his job and stuff like that and they're going to take this public land away from us or close it and and i'm in the comments i'm like so basically what you're saying is he's a cunt and like we can get there a lot quicker this dude's a cunt he's not doing his job and uh fuck some people took offense to it you know i'm like and but sam explained to

me he's like he's australian it's very normal it's a prison colony but out here it's like you're satan oh yeah you know it's like saying i'm not even gonna say it oh fuck. You know, it's like saying, I'm not even going to say it. I know. Oh, fuck it. It's a bad word. It's a bad word. Yeah, it's not. Like over there, it's like a gentle, it's like fucker. Hey, fucker. Yeah, yeah, totally. What up, fucker?

Like if Jamie walked in here and go, hey, fucker. Yeah. And if he said that to me, I'd be like, hey, what's up? It would be normal. There's four things you can't do. You can't say anything bad about white-tail hunting. You can't say anything bad about fucking Jesus. You can't say the word cunt and i can't remember what the fourth one was it might have been something about the american flag like fucking don't go there leave the flag alone

leave the flag flag is beautiful that motherfucker out there son yeah all right dude we just did three hours again wow just. Just flew by. Wow. It's because of this fucking crazy coffee. It's coffee. There's rooms. Rooms are goddamn time-worn. Fuck, I wanted Kanye to be in here at the same time so we can gang up on him and talk him into bow hunting.

We got this little Kanye. We got little Kanye. We got little Kanye right here. Killer Mike's coming on the podcast soon. He said that he wants to go elk hunting with me, but his wife won't let him hunt with white people. So I told her that I'm 1.6% African. So we'll see what we can do. Thanks for having me on the show for the third time, dude.

My pleasure, brother. It's always a good time to see you, my friend. And we've got to schedule another Lanai trip. Hell yeah. Let's make it happen. Or Northern Territory Australia. Or Lanai. Or Lanai.

Stay at the Four Seasons. Love you, buddy. That was cool. It always is bye bye bye bye bye

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