The Joe Rogan Experience - #1232 - Nick Di Paolo
Episode Date: January 25, 2019Nick Di Paolo is a writer and stand up comedian. Check out "The Nick Di Paolo Show" at http://nickdip.com and on YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCghHWRYUpbsUdcsG7PrTgzQ ...
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crazy dude i have a lot of friends that are fall off crazies
boom and we're live nick to paulo yeah baby how are you good good to see you my friend i can't
believe the gym out there it's nice right with a porsche park next to it you got to be able to
work out where you work if you do that you get more in next to your porsche yeah two bad things
not working out well for you joe. I see what you're doing.
I'm not doing anything.
You know me.
I'm right up front.
So we were talking before the podcast
and I said save this
because it's hilarious.
Yeah.
Randy Credico
was a stand-up comedian
has been involved
in this Roger Stone thing?
Yes.
As you know,
Roger Stone this morning
the FBI raided
you know,
took him out of his house
in his pajamas
and shit.
Who I love. Roger Stone interviewed me on the FBI raided, you know, took him out of his house in his pajamas. Who I love.
Roger Stone interviewed me on InfoWars.
He used to love my radio show on Sirius.
Yeah, they asked me to get him on, and I was like, eh, I think I'm going to duck that one.
But he's fucking eccentric and crazy.
He's a loon.
Yeah, and so is Randy.
And they've known each other forever.
And are they friends?
Well, they were.
Really?
Until all this shit started.
And, oh, it's fucking classic.
But Randy Crudico's radical left.
He did a comedy album years ago.
Yeah. It was him and a bunch of other guys.
And it was all political. it was like five guys or three
a few guys i forget how many guys i think cremmons was on it oh sure it was credico yeah and uh
maybe jimmy tingle yeah yeah and they they had like a whole thing they were doing almost like a
like a tour you know and like super left-wing politically aware this is
fucking way back in the day i want to say this is the 90s they were doing this yeah yeah i mean he
was he was he was always funny i mean i'd watch him die every night at the uh catch rising star
because he's he'd be up there doing such inside political shit he'd be talking about a bill that
was passed that day on the floor or whatever the fuck and the crowd would be
staring at him.
And he had a hot Asian girlfriend
and he'd be dying up there.
This is when I fell in love with him.
And he goes,
he goes,
that's my girlfriend over there.
I taught her four words in English.
Not you, crowd suck.
I mean,
he was really fucking funny,
but so political and inside
and inside.
He stayed in my apartment when I lived out here in L.A., and he fucking tried to pick up my wife after I left.
I had to go on the road somewhere, but I still love him.
He's fucking crazy.
But he sent me a picture of him, 2016, in front of the embassy in London, where what's-his name, was held up? Assange. Really? Yes.
And I'm like, what the fuck is going on?
What's he doing out there? And then all that shit came
out about WikiLeaks and stuff.
So they thought he might have been the intermediary.
Yeah,
so he's gone in front of... For Roger Stone?
He's gone in front of Mueller a couple times.
And so...
There it is right here. Who is Randy
Credico?
The guy stayed in my apartment! and so... There it is right here. Who is Randy Credico? Ryan Stone threatened to take away...
The guy stayed in my apartment.
...Associa's dog
if he cooperated with Russia
to investigate.
What?
He threatened to take away his dog?
Oh, fucking...
You gotta read the text
that Roger Stone...
They're public, I think,
sent to Randy.
I'm gonna take your dog?
Oh, yeah.
He goes,
let's get it on.
Be prepared to die.
I'm gonna take your fucking... That's why I love this guy. This guy had a Nixon tattoo when on. Be prepared to die. I'm going to take your fucking...
That's why I love this guy.
This guy had a Nixon tattoo when he was 18 on his back.
Roger Stone did?
Yes.
He marched in the gay parade in New York.
I fucking love him.
He's nuts.
Why'd he march in the gay parade in New York?
Is he pro-gay rights?
Well, he's pro just...
Yeah.
You know, express yourself.
So he's just all over the place.
He's all over the place.
But he's a right...
I mean, he had a Nixon tattoo.
He's a fucking right wing.
But... Out of all the right wing people to get look look that is so ridiculous the fucking nixon that's
a good tattoo too i know i did that and that guy's 60 something years old at least and he loved my
radio show on serious and and he uh he did he hosted info wars it was about six months ago he
had me on as a guest when i got punched in the face by that broad.
Oh, that's right.
I forgot about that.
So, yeah, they raided the FBI, raided his house, took him out today.
And he got out on $250,000 bond.
And he wanted Credico to stop contesting what Stone said in front of when he testified.
So Stone said one thing.
That's not how it went down.
So they're fighting and shit.
And then he's threatening them.
And, but yeah, Randy,
so I text Randy today.
I go, I'm doing Rogan.
I mean, if you want to weigh in,
and he's like,
well, call me before the show
or let me know.
He goes, there's not too much
I can say right now.
But what's funny is
I know both these guys.
That is so weird. That is so weird.
That's so weird.
And he said, yeah, let me know.
He goes, I can't say much because they just arrested the FBI.
They're going to turn.
They're trying to.
I see what Mueller's doing.
He's turning Roger Stone against Trump.
Trump is the target.
Yes.
So he's going to threaten him.
He's 60-something years old, so he can spend the rest of his life in prison or talk.
Yeah. Well, he's doing that with everybody. He's 60 something years old so he could spend the rest of his life in prison or talk yeah you know well he's doing that with everybody he's a scary guy muller if he if
you had a problem and that guy was coming after you like oh my god because he's gonna do it slow
like by the time this actually gets to trump he's gonna be i don't think they do that slow
they do they start whatever they want i think that's different than what you're thinking anyway
i'm very confused by the time they get to trump he's already so nerve-wracked
you know what i'm saying because he like chips away at his borders like slowly but surely takes
away all the people around him yeah he gets closer and you know you know you know he's
concentrating on the family you know of course of. Of course. Of course. That's what he does.
And he even does that with people like Stone.
He'll go after your family and stuff.
You notice you never hear a word out of Ivanka anymore?
No, exactly.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Guarantee you.
Yeah.
Guarantee you they scared the fuck out of her.
But if you want to know about Mueller, like you said, and how fucking creepy he is, he
was the head of the FBI during the 80s of the whitey bulger shit went
down whoa yeah and he put four guys in per he listened to this joe and this you can look this
up this is amazing four guys he put in prison and wrongly it turns out two of them died in prison
whoa yeah you can google because of bulger uh it had to do with that because yes they would do
things and the fbi would let them get away with it because they were providing information.
That's right.
That was the whole Bulger thing.
That's exactly right.
And two guys died in prison, wrongly, by the way.
This guy's not a fucking good guy.
I know he's a Marine, a decorated Marine and shit.
They make those sacrifices.
They make those decisions where they're just going to help a person who's a criminal because that criminal's providing information that can allow them to get more criminals well yeah larger whitey was
providing all kinds of shit about the guineas and east boston that was a great movie too by the way
you know i used to train a guy who was one of whitey's hit men dana white no no no dana white
dana white got threatened he had to move out of town it was was a bulger, wasn't it? Yeah. Bulger related.
Yes, it was bulger related.
When I was teaching Taekwondo, I had one of the guys that was in my class that was whacking
people for Whitey Bulger.
He was asking me, if you want to kill somebody with your bare hands, where would you hit
them?
I was like, the neck.
I was like 18.
I was like, oh.
He goes, correct, Joe.
I was like, good.
Yeah.
I like that.
Who was it?
Kevin?
No.
No.
No.
But Kevin, he went away too. Yes. Another tough kid. Yeah. All related that. Who was it? Kevin? No. No. No. But, you know, Kevin, you know, he went away too.
Yes.
Another tough kid.
Yeah.
All related.
All of them together.
You know, this guy was a different guy.
This guy was, he went away too.
But, I mean, he went away forever.
He was one of those guys.
Like, they caught him with blood under his fingernails.
And he was working with Whitey?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, there's a lot of guys that were.
I mean, it was a big organization.
When we were kids, I mean, everybody knew.
It was a big organization.
I mean, it wasn't a fucking secret.
Oh, no.
Oh, I know.
How did Hannity's attempt to link Mueller to Whitey Bulger hold up?
This article in the Boston Globe says that's not true.
Whatever.
It's the FBI.
He wasn't there.
I know.
You're going to...
He wasn't there?
He wasn't there then.
Oh, he wasn't at the FBI.
Yeah, it says he...
Mueller served the U.S. Attorney's Office in Boston from 82 to 88 as chief of the criminal division,
first assistant U.S. attorney and acting U.S. attorney for more than a year.
During that time, Bulger ran a sprawling criminal enterprise and got away with murders
because he was a longtime FBI informant who corrupted his handlers, the FBI.
He corrupted his handlers.
I love it.
And the FBI and the New England Organized Crime Strike Force,
a prosecutorial
unit that worked independently
in the U.S. Attorney's Office,
reported directly to the Justice
Department, used Bulger to build cases
against the mafia and give him a pass
on his own crimes. The FBI's corrupt
relationship with Bulger was exposed
after he was indicted on federal racketeering
charges in 1995
became a fugitive he was captured 16 years later yeah i would hear yeah so yeah he was captured in
santa monica i know so when did mueller says did mueller know the four men have been wrongly
convicted and look the other way there's nothing linking mueller to that case according to several
attorneys for for the men voluminous court records,
and a former federal judge
who presided over their wrongful imprisonment trial.
In 2007, the U.S. District Judge Nancy Gertner
found the FBI deliberately withheld evidence
that the four men were innocent.
The bureau helped cover up the injustice for...
Jesus Christ, I fucking hate reading shit like that.
She ordered the government to pay the men and their families $101.7 million.
Okay, maybe worth it.
How long did you guys go away for?
Let's be honest.
You were never going to make $100 million.
That's chicken scratch to you.
If they all got $100 million, if every one of them got $100 million, I mean, I'm in.
I mean, how much time do you have to do?
How many times do you get fucked where
you're in jail how bad is it per load fuck man so maybe it was just a rumor that he was a part of
that well like you said though that's the fbi as soon as the story broke i'm sure they called the
paper and said listen get your facts straight well how crazy is it the fbi covered up the
information and knew those guys were innocent. That is dark. Yeah.
Who went to jail for that?
Did the guys who covered it up go to jail?
I'm not sure.
Ugh.
But two of them died.
You can't.
They died in jail?
Two of them died in jail.
Ugh.
I'm sure you can go.
You know they caught him because his wife was yelling and shit all the time?
Yeah, she was Coco.
He had fucking cash on the yelling and shit all the time yeah she was coco he had fucking cash
on the walls and shit did he i used to sell meat door-to-door when i before i started comedy and i
used to go to fucking winter hill not knowing where i was and i would i would wonder why people
look at my i take out my shit and they go that's like that breaks down like 40 bucks a pound get
the fuck out and then somebody explained to me you know know, what the hell is like Whitey Bulch's? Wow.
So you were selling meat in his neighborhood.
Oh, yeah.
Fucking same in East Boston.
I knocked on the door.
A couple of guys in Revere that were like fucking connected.
My buddy, I don't know who they were and shit later on.
Well, they probably knew people from meatpacking.
They probably got it right off the boat.
Of course.
Of course.
And I'm doing my little spiel there for a boiler you know a fucking boiler room
operation oh you break it down pour a meal it comes out there three bucks a minute and they're
doing the math in the head you could tell they were like bookies you know they're like that's
like 40 bucks a pound get the fuck off my steps wasn't really that much but it was it was ridiculous
you know but uh and i was in rhode island uh banging doors and i and and uh i got the same
response and i looked down.
I see in the streets, the lines on the streets are red, white, and green.
I was in Federal Hill in Providence where the mafia started.
Look at that article.
Look at this.
Whitey Bulger's Santa Monica hideout was full of money.
It still brims with mystery.
He was living in like a normal apartment.
I know.
So weird.
He had $822,000 in cash and valuables.
Wow. Jesus Christ. I like that movie. I thought Johnny822,000 in cash and valuables. Wow.
Jesus Christ.
I like that movie.
I thought Johnny Depp was great in that.
Yeah, he was.
He was great in it.
Yeah.
That's a creepy dude.
Yeah, he was as creepy as they get.
It's just amazing how much corruption was involved in that case.
Yes.
And that the federal government was a part of it, and they let that monster, they let him thrive.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So it makes you wonder about the FBI today. Well, it should it should make you wonder it shows you what they're capable of yeah well it
that way whenever you're doing that whenever you're allowing someone to commit murder and
deal drugs to get other people that are committing murder and dealing drugs like what yeah because
they would just want they just look what happens with cops and this is very unfortunate, but this is just what happens when you have a game.
And the game is arrest people.
The game is win, right?
You have a certain amount of callers you have to make.
And if you can make more callers because you're in bed with a bad guy, especially if maybe you grew up in that neighborhood and it's always been kind of an accepted part of that neighborhood.
Yeah, that guy Conley grew up with one.
Yeah, exactly.
Makes a sneaky little deal.
Yeah.
Oof.
Well, same with lawyers.
It's all about,
it's like sports.
You have to have a winning record.
You're not going to succeed.
So they, you know,
they play outside the rules.
I mean, that's one of the reasons
why cops and people
have such a weird relationship
because they're always looking to arrest people.
And your cop's talking,
and you're like,
ah, don't put me on your record. Come yeah and they just want maybe i can get you for
something yeah i gotta get somebody no i know when they have quotas like when you have quote
like what would what would the police force do if nobody broke crimes anymore that make shit up if
they what would they do like legitimately if they have if they really do that would never happen it
would never happen But what if everybody
Got on mushrooms
And the world
Is that the solution?
Yeah yeah
The world got cleaned up
I was wondering
How long it would take
To get to that
Not much
Not much time
A couple years
A couple years
No I mean in the conversation
To mushrooms
I got some right here
If you want some
Dude I can't even handle
Regular mushrooms
Fucking chant
Shitake make me crazy
I don't know how you do that shit.
We had that discussion.
DMT and fucking.
Portobello.
Nice glaze.
A demi-glaze on it.
Yeah.
It just, the whole, I mean, the Mueller thing is very, it's very interesting.
It's very interesting because you're watching a professional, like, cast a web.
Like, nice and slow.
Yeah. Nice and slow slow this is the full force
of the fbi against you and and if they'll do it against a roger stone like you said they'll do
you know yeah it's creepy well jamie said they opened up the government today to distract from
the fact that roger stone got arrested most likely i think you're right i think that's a good assessment. I guess. I mean, Trump's the final target, so.
But yeah, he's going to threaten Stone with, you know, he's like 66.
Yeah.
Threatens him with 10 years.
He's probably going to.
Yeah, he's going to sing.
That's enough to fucking make him sing.
But he's such a.
Sing a song.
Like Dershowitz says, they don't just sing.
They actually, how did Dershowitz put it?
They actually come up with the lyrics they create.
They don't just sing.
What do you think is going to happen to Trump, if you had to guess?
As far as this investigation?
Nothing.
Really?
Pass that coffee over here.
Thank you.
Yeah.
Thanks, brother.
Why do you think nothing's going to happen? Well, that's over here. Thank you. Yeah. Thanks, brother. Why do you think nothing's going to happen?
Well, that's not true.
I shouldn't say that, only because I think Mueller's pretty fucking evil and will come up with something.
Well, you know, what, impeachment at the worst?
But where's the high crimes and misdemeanors?
Well, if there was obstruction of justice, if there was collusion, if there was any sort of – if they can prove that there was some sort of concerted effort to undermine democracy.
Yeah, which I don't think they'll get them.
Even with Roger Stone, they're not charging him with collusion or conspiracy, just lying and covering up.
They don't have him for collusion or conspiracy.
They're lying, covering up the interactions with Russians, right?
Is that what it is?
I guess that would be Mueller's angle, yeah.
You know, Jamie was talking about something yesterday, and I started listening to this recent Sam Harris podcast, and it is fucking fascinating how much Russian troll farms and all these fake accounts and what they're trying to do.
And one of the things they're trying to do is,
what Jamie was saying was that that kid with the MAGA hat,
with the Native American beating the drum in front of him,
the image of that was posted by this website that turned out to be a Russian troll farm.
But it was in Brazil.
Was it, Jamie?
It was a blogger in Brazil.
Yeah.
When CNN looked into it
They just kind of asked Twitter
What's going on with this account?
And by the time they'd asked them
They just suspended the account
So it's gone
But you said they suspended the account
Because the account was a fake account
Yeah, they had
They thought it was posing as like a California teacher
Yeah, her name's Talia
Yeah
But it was an actual blogger in Brazil
Oh, so it was Brazil actual blogger in Brazil.
Oh, so it was Brazil, it wasn't Russian?
No. I wasn't sure. I just was sort of saying it was
going into a fake account of something.
But yes, they saw seeds of...
Yeah, well, they're trying to get people
against each other. Of course. They're doing that in a...
People need to understand that this is actually really
happening. Well, do we need their help?
Really? To turn against each other?
Do we need the Russians' help? Well, if you stop stop and think about it has there ever been a time where the left and the
right were more at each other's throats cnn's enough you don't need russia was there every time
but but are cnn enough to really get people turned against each other like this no fucking way
you need angry discourse online and the way that comes from from, there's an amazing Radiolab podcast about this where they talk to people that actually worked in these troll farms.
And that these people, they would both be left-wing and right-wing.
And this is one of the things that they're talking about on the Sam Harris podcast.
I think it's called War of Information.
But they'll pose as like pro-choice people and say ridiculous shit yes
like over the top ridiculous and then they'll pose as pro-life people with like a american flag and
you know maga in the in the you know the hashtag and they're they're heading but they have nothing
to do with that they're just russians and they're just trying to get people riled up and you see
people jump on board and start chiming in but um i was talking to a comic that we were talking about that i won't
bring his name up but he referred me to this this russian guy i can't i'm not gonna remember his
name but this is a clip of this russian guy who worked for the kgb defected over here and he was
explaining how russia does that yeah and he was explaining how Russia does that.
Yeah.
And this was back in the 80s.
Oh, well, we do it too.
Everybody does it.
They all do it.
Everybody does it.
They fuck with the system in any way,
shape, or form
in order to achieve
a desired result.
I think the Russians
are the best at it, apparently.
Well, I just think
they're way more dedicated to it.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, it's a sneaky way
to go about doing things too
because Russia doesn't have the the kind of money that the united states has they got nothing
they have you know their economy is the size of texas yeah all they have is nuclear weapons
they're almost like a third world and a brutal dictator and a dictator yeah that's all it takes
but as far as the economy and everything they they're like a third world shithole.
Well, they're like a small European country. But it's really interesting when you listen to these podcasts about how much effort they put into sowing discourse or discord to getting people upset with each other, to starting arguments, and to saying things that are going to upset people in order to get the right versus the left.
To undermine democracy from the inside.
Yeah.
It's really interesting.
I mean, it's weird that it works, but it makes sense that it works.
Sure.
I mean, it's a sneaky-ass strategy.
Yeah.
You think CNN does just as good a job?
They fucking horrible.
But you're so right-wing.
I'm not so right-wing, John. How right middle middle right i'd say center right of center right of
center right of center yeah yeah yeah what's wrong with cnn oh do you like it first of all i don't
need to hear it in every fucking airport before i'm doing a gig the last fucking words i want to
hear wolf blitzer before my plane crashes Somebody told me
Wolf Blitzer got on Jeopardy
And they exposed him
Yes
I remember reading that too
Because you know
People get on television
They read off a teleprompter
You think they're brilliant
They seem brilliant
You know
They seem so smart
Absolutely
Then you get them alone
How about
Louis goes on Jeopardy and wins
What Louis C.K.?
Yeah
Did he?
Yeah
Remember they have celebrities on once in a while When did he do that? A couple years ago Did he go on withopardy and wins. What, Louis C.K.? Yeah. Did he? Yeah. Remember they have celebrities on once in a while?
When did he do that?
A couple years ago.
Did he go on with regular people and win?
I forget who he's against.
I think it was other famous people.
That makes sense.
Most famous people are stupid.
Remember Jonathan Groff?
Yeah.
Oh, he's very smart.
Well, do you remember he went on Jeopardy against regular people?
And he won the tournament.
Yeah.
He won the whole tournament, a comic.
Yeah.
So, folks, don't take us lightly.
Does he still write for, there he is blitzer minus four thousand dollars you dumbass
yeah it didn't work out so well uh that's fucking funny it is hilarious well you know
people can pretend to be smart you know you read off the teleprompter they give you the script
you know but john was jonathan gro, does he still write for Conan?
That's a good question.
I don't know.
He was writing for Conan the last time I saw him.
But he was fucking really, really bright.
Funny guy, too.
And really funny.
Yeah.
I don't think he does stand-up anymore, though.
I think he just writes.
That's how smart he is.
He's like, enough of this.
Nonsense.
This jokey joke nonsense.
Enough is enough. I'm starting to feel that way yeah
um but what why do you hate cnn oh come on all the fucking shit they put out there
and uh just an example how about before the when donna brazil had the notes for hillary before the
fucking bernie yes remember that wasn't that enough to discredit yes she was a pundit right and they still had her
on that's what's ridiculous that they had her on after that yeah they told her what the questions
were going to be yeah yeah well her book was amazing though that that's what's interesting
is they fucked her over and then she came out with a book and ripped them that book is dark
i haven't i haven't read it yet i've only read passages of it, but what I read about how they rigged the DNC, how they
fucked Bernie out of the primaries.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oof.
Oof.
Yeah.
Bernie gets screwed.
It's a dark business.
Oh, it's fucking.
It's all the same.
They're all in cahoots.
But you don't think the mainstream media is sort of like a propaganda arm for the Democratic
Party?
Well, they definitely think they're working for the good but it's 93 negative coverage
with trump right trump is an you know he's an unusually polarizing figure sure i mean was it
that way with um well i guess i was probably pretty negative with bush oh it was a different
world back then no it was but they, since I've been a kid.
I mean, Reagan was a dummy and just a fucking B actor and an idiot and a racist.
You can look at this shit year after year.
It's true.
George Bush Sr., George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, War Monger.
It's the same shit.
Racist, bigot, racist.
And it works.
And Ford.
It works.
Ford was a moron.
And Ford was, remember how he was portrayed on SNL? Yeah, he yeah he was always falling down he couldn't walk three feet which was kind of true
actually and he was an athlete but but it's always been that way the mainstream media has always sort
of uh been more liberal you know right but then you have fox news which goes far the other way
well with their opinion shows but at least when you watch fox news which everybody who hates fox who's never watches it number one uh but but they at least have liberals on
and shepherd smith fucking hates yes yes he does he looks like every guy that bullied him as a kid
do you think that's why he hates him yeah i do that's it that's the only reason yeah the only
reason i do nothing that's the reason most of them hate him he's he here's what's here's what
they don't bring up even h Hannity and all these guys.
You get your head going like a pigeon.
Oh, for Christ's sake.
Let's change the subject.
He's getting irritated with me already.
I got to get you out of L.A.
I'm afraid you're going to get diseased.
I'm fine.
Everything's good over here.
No, I know.
Tell me about it.
But what were we just talking about?
Why they hate Trump.
They never bring up this, though.
Because he's an alpha male, blonde-haired, blue-eyed fucking billionaire. What were we just talking about? Why they hate Trump. They never bring up this, though.
Because he's an alpha male, blonde-haired, blue-eyed fucking billionaire.
That's the embodiment of the devil for the left.
They never bring that up on the show.
Do you think that's really what it is?
It has nothing to do with him lying all the time?
What's he lie about?
The number of people at his inauguration?
As opposed to Obama going, oh, you can keep your health care.
I mean, the fucking, you know.
He doesn't lie any more than any other president.
You don't think so?
If he does, it's trivial shit.
He's a salesman.
He's a fine line.
Well, he's definitely a salesman.
Oh, he's a bullshitter.
But that's what we need.
We're a corporation.
We're a corporation.
The country is?
Don't you think so?
That's what I always heard.
It's kind of like that.
A little bit.
I mean, it's some sort of an organization.
Does Hillary Clinton lie at all?
Oh, yeah, for sure.
Well, why didn't you get called on it?
How is that fat twat not in cups?
Oh, how dare you?
It is a good question.
Yeah, it's a great question. I was talking to Mike Baker, who used to work for the CIA.
Oh, I thought you meant my fucking web guy.
No, different Mike Baker.
Because he wanted to come out here with me.
Mike Baker from the CIA said if he did anything remotely like what Hillary did, he'd be in jail for 30 years.
Of course.
Yeah.
Remember the kid in the submarine that worked for the Navy that took pictures of the submarine?
I mean, he took a a selfie and it had bad shit
in the background
that he wasn't supposed
to take photos of.
And how long was he in jail?
I don't know.
So,
I would just like to see
some equity
as far as people
being held accountable
on both sides.
Well,
maybe it would have been different
if Hillary made it through.
Maybe it would have been different
in terms of like media coverage
if she actually became president.
They would have sucked her ass.
You think so?
Yeah.
I think so.
I don't know, man.
Once Donna Brazile's book came out and people have an understanding about the inner workings of the party.
I mean, I think, look, politics, it's a dirty, dirty business.
It's not big.
It's dirty.
It's worse than podcasts.
But podcasts are pretty clean.
I know.
Like, relatively.
It's very clean.
That's why people come to it now.
You can't get the truth from mainstream media.
Well, I was trying to explain to a friend who was talking about doing a podcast deal
with a network.
And I was like, stop.
You can't do that.
This is the one thing that you can have where it can be mainstream and it's free of everything.
Free of any influence.
And you're going to let a bunch of pencil pushers and button pressers, they're going to tell you what you can and can't say, which direction you can and can't go.
They're going to try to influence you.
But isn't Google doing that?
No.
What do you mean?
With conservatives, like shutting down Dennis Pra? No What do you mean? With conservatives Like shutting down Dennis Prager
It's like a fucking
What do you mean?
Google
As far as
Well
YouTube is owned by Google
I'm talking about a company
Right okay
I'm talking about a company
You going into business with them
Yeah you can
Where you're a podcaster
You're free and independent
Right
And it's probably the only thing in the world
Where you can be completely free and independent
And still reach millions of people It really is the only thing in the world where you can be completely free and independent and still reach millions of people.
It really is the only thing in the world.
But what does Google do?
Well, what I'm saying, Google owns YouTube.
Right.
Right?
And people like Dennis Prager, a religious right guy, his show gets shut down on YouTube.
What do you mean it's shut down?
It's shut down?
He's suing.
He's suing fucking Google.
I didn't know about this.
Yeah.
I know he does those shows with Carolla. With Carolla. I didn't know't know he's just i used to listen to him when i lived in la he's a
conservative religious jewish guy i've listened to him a hundred times well they consider it hate
speech i mean that's that's when we're getting to dangerous territory wait a minute i pull up uh
what what happened to him because i'm i'm completely ignorant about this this is the
first time i'm hearing about this oh this is going to go to the supreme court really i think so they pulled so they took his page down they said you
can't have a page on youtube anymore yeah they shut his show down do you remember what it was
about not specifically but i know it was labeled hate and if you listen to this guy for 10 minutes
he's the most congenial fair-minded uh you know but he's he's a you know uh religious guy do you know that shit doesn't
fly do you know douglas marius he's actually uh her who is it he's a he's a uh an intellectual
from england who uh wrote about uh wrote the a book about immigrants in europe called the strange
death i think it's called islam and the strange death of europe and uh he's basically talking about how people from these countries that have emigrated
into europe are changing the culture they're changing the culture and north africa there's
all sorts of you know crimes and things that are happening that didn't exist before sure and people
are developing these communities of like-minded people that didn't
exist before right no go zones and and he's saying that this is you know this is fundamentally
dangerous but he's saying it from a point a perspective of understanding the actual facts
involved and talking about the situation and talking about how these are people that don't
respect homosexuals they want to throw them off roofs and they have these right opinions about yeah they have these opinions about people that are extremely antiquated
and not aligned with european values in the modern western world right he and sam harris had a
conversation and that conversation got flagged on youtube uh it got flagged because someone put it
up in their their you know you make like a little watch list.
What is it called?
What is it called?
The list you could, where you put it on YouTube on your channel where you could, a playlist.
Yeah.
So he puts it on his playlist and he gets a community guideline strike against him for putting up this conversation between two intellectuals.
So I have this conversation with this lady at YouTube.
And I said, well, why would you do that?
Why does that get, she goes, well, it's hate speech.
I go, it's hate speech?
I go, you're talking about two intellectuals
having a discussion about a real thing
that's happening right now in Europe.
And you're saying hate speech.
If you listen to the podcast, there's no slurs used,
just facts, they're just talking about.
Well, same with Preg.
But this was the way she said it,
because it's hate speech.
I'm like, You said that so easily
You've never seen this
That's a lot of power
It's also a lot of irresponsible power
Or irresponsible use of power
But my point is
They're cracking down on people who lean right
Whether it's Twitter
That's 100% true
And that's a big fucking problem
Hate speech.
We're going to let Google decide.
What's the name of the company that owns Alphabet?
They're going to decide what.
I brought that up on Tough Crowd years ago.
Wow.
About when you disagree with a liberal or whatever you're arguing with.
They always go, oh, you're a hater.
They would keep saying that. And that's what it turned into if you just disagreed you're a hater
now it's you're a bigot or a racist if you didn't agree with obama's policies you're a bigot or a
racist and and that shit works that that's been working for the left for years but now that the
social media google controls almost all the information the information you and I hear every day.
I mean, that's why it's so dangerous.
So look up, yeah, Prague is the first example that comes to mind.
That guy, excuse me, yeah, because he's, you know, a Christian or whatever.
He's Jewish.
Yeah, he's Jewish, but, you know.
Looking it up
it's it unless unless i'm what i just read was wrong they weren't deleted from youtube at least
they weren't deleted they were restricted put it like meaning like they shut down the show that uh
the the adult thing like you have to have an account that says you're 18 or older or something
like that and they were fighting and having a lawsuit against that saying that what they have
in their videos are not shouldn't be behind that against that, saying that what they have in their videos shouldn't be behind that wall, whatever that is.
They also then –
But this is my point.
You have to go to YouTube to get the story.
Hold on a second.
No, I'm on their website.
I went to a couple different websites to see it.
But they were also – like yesterday, they had ads blacklisted from Spotify.
So they had ads that were, I guess, initially approved, and now they have been disapproved,
and they haven't really explained to them why.
Dennis Prager's ads?
Yeah, yeah.
Well, he's suing.
But his page is still up.
You know Carolla, don't you?
Yeah.
I believe so.
Ask him about it.
Yeah, I will.
But the YouTube page is still up.
His show's not up.
His show is shut down.
I'll check that.
They might have taken it down by now.
This is kind of from a couple months ago.
Yeah, they shut him down.
So if you go to the Dennis Prager YouTube channel, it doesn't exist?
I'm checking right now.
So the idea that they would make that 18 plus because it's conservative, that's hilarious.
No, this is up.
It's up.
This is it, right?
Okay, this is his channel, bro.
PragerU.
Yeah, that's his channel.
Okay, but he's got a million subscribers.
A million nine hundred
and forty shut his show down i don't know they brought it back up is that what you're saying
maybe so that that they got a lawsuit they have a video up from an hour ago spotify bans prager
from advertising okay then google prager lawsuit and that's what it was about it's about them being
restricted yeah i am angry because we're not getting the full story here well i mean we're just finding out that it's up right now it's he's uh he's suing him yeah no i believe you so
my point being is these big tech big tech companies are crushing conservative opinions
for the most part right yes and here's a good way to look at it if you're going after a guy
like dennis prager yeah who again is most congenial guy, never swears, very mild-mannered, very cool and calm, whether you agree with him or disagree with him.
It's not the way to go about something like this if you disagree with someone is not to shut them down.
No, it's to have a debate.
Exactly.
Yeah, and that's not happening. Well, you know, you saw the Google memo.
You saw what happened with that guy when he provided all this information about one of the reasons why women don't get into tech.
And they labeled him as being a misogynist and a woman hater.
Like, no, he's giving you scientific studies that show that women have different interests.
Is that Lawrence Summers you're talking about?
There's been a few since.
Lawrence Summers was actually the president of Harvard, and he was giving a speech, and that's all he said.
He brought up the numbers as far as males going into science and math.
He didn't say women aren't good at it, and he got fucking canned from Harvard.
Yeah.
Yeah, you can't have anything that's –
That's fascism.
Yeah.
If it disagrees with the orthodoxy they'll come down on you even if
it's factual like james demore and you could clearly back it up you could look at the the
actual numbers not only that that james demore guy put a page and a half in there on strategies
for encouraging women to get into tech i mean if he was a real massage he was working for who demore
google google yes he's the google memo guy right that was what started off because all these
intellectuals came to his side.
They go, look, why are we doing all this research if you guys completely ignore it every time it comes up?
Right.
You're pretending that this research is not valid.
This research is, it's scientific information that shows that certain types of people are more interested in different things.
We've known that forever.
That's why boy toys and girl toys are different because boys and girls like different things. We've known that forever. That's why boy toys and girl toys are different.
Because boys and girls like different shit.
I mean, it's basically a more complex version of that.
And he's essentially saying women like different things.
It doesn't mean that they can't do it.
Joe, that's horrible to say.
The only difference between the sexes is socially constructed obstacles.
Well, gender is a social construct.
Yeah, gender itself.
It is.
They should come here and take a look at your place.
That would shut them.
Shut the argument.
It's all male.
Male gender.
I've got some female stuff here from when my kids come over.
Tell them what you said to me when I said, what a fucking great place.
Oh, this is what happens when women don't get to tell you what to do.
You have a place.
You have a warehouse of male.
But, look, that's not – I'm a nice guy.
That's not bad.
Of course not.
The problem is, in this society, male energy, male thinking, male – and it is vilified.
And you're taught to think there's something wrong with being masculine.
Being masculine is the reason why we don't speak German.
Okay?
Stop. Exactly. Talk about toxic masculinity. You could – you would be the poster boy for that shit. with being masculine being masculine is the reason why we don't speak german okay stop uh exactly
talk about toxic masculinity you could you'll be the poster boy for that shit well the whole reason
why you need male people is because there's male people other places that will take away your shit
and kill your people and exactly this is not a bad thing male does not equal evil just because
there are evil men They are evil men
Of course
It doesn't mean all men are evil
There's evil women too
It doesn't mean all women are evil
I dated three of them
I bet you dated more than three
Let's be honest
Yeah
No you're absolutely right
Yeah
But this toxic masculinity
Is just fucking hilarious
Like you said
Really?
World War II
How about that turned out
Well there's just so many
Dumb phrases like that
You know Well they're like that, you know?
Well, they're made up.
Do you know about heteronormative?
I'm sure I have.
You know, cisgendered?
Cisgendered, yes.
Heteronormative?
Yeah.
Yeah, like you're imposing the norms as if heterosexuality is normal.
Well, did you see, what was the story a couple days ago?
It was in Californiaifornia here a
beautiful state of california they're trying to the he you can't say he or she it's they now
what yeah where everywhere uh i'm saying her name is hannah something jackson he uh yeah now you have
to say they nope and they were passing it they had her in the the meeting uh the actual uh town
hall or city wherever they're
passing the ordinance and at the end she goes my my grandma my grammar teacher wouldn't approve
of this she's rolling around but we won't hear from her she said her and somebody called her
out on it as she was passing the bill i was just passing left wing nonsense you shouldn't say her
about your grandmother she's not here to correct your gender identification.
It's hilarious.
Of course, she looked like Newt Gingrich.
There she is.
California state senator bans the use of he and she during committee hearings.
Oh, look at her with her perfect fucking liberal haircut.
Newt Gingrich's haircut.
Oh, my God.
Some people are-
Champ Howard's face.
Some people are just hilarious.
But they called her out.
She's trying to do a good thing.
That is funny.
And they had a laugh about thing. That is funny.
And they call her out.
They had a laugh about it.
That is so funny.
Who the fuck does she look like?
Oh, my God.
We won't be hearing from her.
Well, you made me laugh.
Jax was then interrupted by listeners who corrected her usage and demand.
Stop, stop.
Go back.
Oh, it's done.
Sorry.
Corrected her usage and demand that she use the word they or them.
They demanded.
See, this is the problem with all this shit.
Yes.
It's demanding.
They're trying to control people.
They're telling people what to do and what not to do, and it's about power.
A lot of this stuff is about power.
All of it is.
They're imposing their worldview on you.
But it's not even their worldview.
It's not real.
What it is is they're just deciding that this is a thing that they're going to agree to,
and they're going to force other people to comply.
It's half the game.
Half the game is just getting people to comply.
Well, you do that by, and you start with language.
You control people's behavior through language, which is the definition of political correctness.
Well, that's what Carlin always said, that fascism is just political correctness with good manners.
Or political correctness is fascism with good manners.
Good manners.
How about, you saw the clip of Louie at Governor's when he was talking about this, how the, you
know, the millennials or whoever demanding what we call them.
Yes, they are them.
And he goes, okay, Louie goes, okay, I'm a location.
Yeah, it's your mother's country.
Then he goes, I've got to come up with something more clever, not as harsh, whatever. I'm a location, your mother's cunt Then he goes I gotta come up with
Something more clever
Not as harsh
Whatever
I'm a location
Your mother's cunt
Yeah
What did you think
About all that stuff
Getting leaked
About Louie's
You know
Stan Hope had a really
Good point about that
What did Dougie say
Dougie was saying
Like look
If this was a movie
If you took that movie
And filmed it in the movie theater
And then put it online You'd, you'd go to jail.
That's right.
You're a criminal.
Right.
You're stealing.
Right.
And you're ruining his work.
Yes.
But they think they can ruin his work because he jerked off in front of some people.
I don't even know if it's that.
I don't even know if the person that leaked it, like, was a Louis hater.
They seemed like a fan.
They were laughing hard.
Yes.
It's like they had their phone on their table.
I was at, it wasn't Governor's, it the brokerage which is the same owners a few years ago and i'm up there doing my shit and working on a new hour i looked down and the
kid about 56th row i see him i see the red light yeah and he's got his head down so i come down
off the stage he doesn't even hear me and i grab the phone out of his hand and fucking deleted i go dude you came out because you're a fan of mine right i go the problem i explained
it to him in the whole crowd the problem with this is if you put this shit online i'm working
on news that's old material right you're burning my shit do you get it yeah to all the other fans
that listen to it for sure and also it's not fair because these bits are never done like if you want
to release it half baked like when when you first start working on a bit,
you have a premise, you got kind of an idea where it's going.
Of course.
Yeah, and then it eventually becomes a bit that you would put on a special.
Right.
Yeah.
And they get it halfway or a quarter.
Yeah.
And it looks shitty, or if it's done, if you're doing a bit that's complete, it becomes old.
Well, that was some of the things that people were saying about Louis.
The material's sloppy.
It's not like his old stuff.
Yeah, of course.
He's working shit out.
The old stuff you saw when it was done.
Like, if you came to the store and saw him working on a set, like, a few years back,
you would see the same kind of stuff.
I got a couple comments like that when I put my last special out.
They're like, well, he's doing the same stuff.
Well, you came out to see me eight, ten months ago
when I was working on it.
Yeah.
It's something in process.
They don't understand, though,
because it seems like
when you're on stage
and you're killing it.
It's coming off the top
of your fucking head.
And it seems like
you're doing something
that they can do.
You're just talking.
Oh, I know.
You're just talking.
I can talk.
There's no other art form like that
where it's just talking.
That's exactly right.
Nobody yells at a concert.
Nobody, you know, I can play bass better than that jerk off.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Some people probably do.
People have, you know, because people have made their friends laugh.
I think Seinfeld saw that in a book years ago.
Because, you know, you make your friends laugh.
Everybody's made their friends laugh, whether you're a comic or not.
And you're like, I can do this do i call people out when they look bored
with me or they have their arms folded i go do it you got that smug look in your face i know you
could do this too but you'd rather work at the fucking mattress factory 80 hours a week and
making fucking 400 there's people out there working at the mattress factory right now listening to
this going man fuck you yeah well fuck them whoa. How about you just ignore the guy that's
sitting looking weird?
You make a mattress.
How much could I pay you to make a mattress?
I don't know. What am I getting at the
Comedy Palace tonight in San Diego?
I'd have to pay you a lot of money to build me
a mattress.
But you said it. They got that look on their face.
You'd have to pay for the foam
And stitch it all together
Get the fuck out of here
You think making a mattress would be easy?
Oh please
I got foam laying all over the house
Start with my wife's boobs
Oh come on Joe
Where do you get this coffee?
It's fucking delicious
It's good right
I think this is Black Rifle
Black Rifle Coffee
I don't like that name
It's racist
Oh it's not It's a gun metal it's a company of veterans it makes coffee it's good people yeah
veteran owned you but you spoke like fuck yeah matt flag veteran owned too good veteran owned
company i got a flag they sent me uh when i did the afghanistan uso thing guys sent me a flag that
they used in battle. Nice.
You have it folded up and-
I had it hanging, but then I made a gym out of my fucking whatever, so I don't know where it is.
Well, you should probably find it.
I should probably put it back up, shouldn't I?
Yeah.
Sorry I brought that up.
Don't worry about it.
The Louis C.K. set was very similar, in my opinion, to all the shit that he did before he got in trouble.
Absolutely. Very similar. Very similar. did before he got in trouble. Absolutely.
Very similar.
Absolutely.
Same kind of material, same way he does things.
I mean, people forget that this is a guy who went on Saturday Night Live
and did a joke about pedophiles and about, you know,
maybe we should let them get away with it so they don't kill your kids.
I mean, it's fucked up.
It's a fucked up bit.
But he was the darling of the left back then, and so he was allowed to get away with that.
Yes.
If he tried to do that same material, if he hadn't done that then and instead did that now, people would be fucking horrified.
What is it, Joe, about offending women or today's feminists?
They are, in my opinion, all this political correctness that we hate so much, shutting down, they are at the in my opinion all this political correctness that we hate so much
shutting down they are at the core of it well people the the i say this the the zeitgeist of
the times is like a fat chick's emotion wow very sensitive uh you can't you can't cross them well
it's also because people are realizing now that they can make an impact like one of the things
that i read because he's doing this thing in Pittsburgh
He was doing the improv in Pittsburgh
And this lady who wrote the article
Wrote that he's making people put their cell phones in bags
Much like comedians Dave Chappelle
And Joe Rogan do
She used my name too
I've done it before but I only did it when I was filming my Netflix special
So I didn't want people putting the material out
Right before I was releasing the special
And then afterwards I decided it was too much of a pain in the ass But the only reason my Netflix special. So I didn't want people putting the material out right before I was releasing the special.
And then afterwards I decided it was too much
of a pain in the ass.
But the only reason
why I was doing it,
it had nothing to do with,
she said because they know
words can offend
and they don't want
the consequences.
Well, I'm going to put it
on Netflix.
Anyways, it's going to be
out to the public.
It's offensive.
If you're looking
to get offended,
go watch my Netflix special.
There's plenty in there for you. But i need to be able to do it correctly like i'm i want
to work it out so that it has the maximum amount of laughs with the minimum amount of of people
getting it the wrong way right so this it's all about wording and setting it up right and listening
to it and going maybe there's a better way and you can't do that if somebody releases your shit so these people that don't know comedy and they're
saying this like you have no idea what the process is like you just don't and if you if you do you
would respect it and appreciate it right and the people that are comics that don't respect and
appreciate the process like that's where we are now them but it's just because people can make
an impact they can have a reaction.
Just like the people yelling at her.
She said, oh, my grandmother would be rolling over in her grave.
Up, up, up.
Say they and them.
Say they and them.
They're just trying to get a reaction from you.
They're just trying to push buttons.
They're just knowing that they can say something and they can have some sort of an impact.
We're going to get Louis louis ck banned from here
you know we're gonna get nick topalo kicked out of this club you can't come to this club you talk
negatively about women and women's empowerment and that's dangerous to girls i only get kicked
out of one place and of course one of the best clubs in the country what club denver comedy
works oh you got kicked out of the comedy works like 20 something years ago for what well it was a bachelorette party ruining the middle guy's set the mc set and then i went up my second time there
i think that's a great club obviously and they started yelling shit out like take off your shirt
your dick and i said can we throw these fat cunts out and it turns out a fat cunt was running the club so i was uh kicked out of it son of a bitch
hey well that's how i feel joe well i was thrown out because of my words well and i get kicked out
for smoking on stage and rooster t feathers those the only two places yeah i think that was a long
time ago though right smoking on stage oh yeah last time you smoked on stage? Oh, a couple weeks ago.
Oh, the fat black pussy cat.
Do you smoke still?
Well, you say still.
I just really started.
I was, 15, 20 years ago, I was a social smoker, because everybody, the comedy seller, I'd be sitting across from Mattel, breathing in his shit, and I'm like, I might as well put
a filter in my mouth.
And so, you know, I'd have one one or two but then i really picked up the pace
about a year ago what the fuck is that it keeps the pounds off what joe it's no more dangerous
than steroids it's not i don't know i just know i like it but uh but uh oh i do really i do
yeah what kind of smoke marlboro Yeah. Oh, it's gentle.
They're lights.
Well, I'll take it.
Cancer light.
You get a light tumor.
Yeah, you get a...
How many are you smoking a day?
Half a pack.
Really?
Dude, you're too smart for that.
That's outrageous.
Oh, Joe, please.
You are.
You can't kill me.
It can't?
Nah.
Wow.
My grandfather smoked Paul Malls, Unfelted, and Camels.
So you think it's like A genetic thing
Yeah you can't kill
The depo
No it's
Look it's
You're 56
Yeah
I do it my act
Because my friends go
Why would you start
At this age
And I go
Why would you start
In your 20s
So you could have
Ass cancer in your 40s
I'm timing it out
I see
If a doctor tells me I have cancer in 25 years,
I'm going to kiss him on the lips.
You see the looks on guys in their 80s?
They look happy.
They're like, I wish I smoked when I was a fucking kid.
I knew you would have disapproved.
Sad.
Sad for you.
Why don't you just chew?
I did that in college.
Get your jaw removed.
Yeah, no.
I'd rather go.
I'm very vain. I don't want to be that lady that looks your jaw removed. Yeah, no. I'd rather go. Those guys get the full jaw cancer.
I'm very vain.
I don't want to be that lady that looks like Popeye.
I don't want to be that broad.
She was so cute when she was young.
You ever see one?
Yes.
And then she turned into Popeye with the voice and everything.
But I'll kick it.
You promise?
Yeah.
Eventually.
You stop juicing.
I'm not juicing.
I take testosterone replacement therapy.
Why do you? From a doctor. You don't need it. That'sicing I take testosterone replacement therapy Why do you?
From a doctor
You don't need it
That's how I
You say I don't need it
That's why I don't need it
Because I do it
If I didn't do it
I would look like a regular 51 year old man
Excuse me
Trust me
If I get you on it
Go to a doctor
To get your hormone levels checked
I'll do it tomorrow
And I'll quit the cigarettes
Your body just works better
I'll quit the cigarettes Okay Promise just works better I'll quit the cigarettes
Okay, promise?
Yeah
I don't need it
I mean, I just drive my shoulders
Playing football
Yeah
I have aches and pains
But, you know
I'm 5'9", 3 quarters, 213
That's not too bad
That's not bad
But you're a thick dude
You're thick
Well, it's muscle
You always get that Italian thickness
Well, that's how I work out.
Density, bro.
I got those shoulders.
I love the density.
But this is the biggest I've ever seen you.
I've been working out a lot.
Plus, I haven't been running because I had some stem cells shot into my knee.
Oh, really?
Yeah, I've had some meniscus issues.
And I'm a fucking idiot.
I can't let them sit.
I've got stem cells before
And it felt good
And then I run
You know miles in the hills
Every day a week later
After the shots
You can still do that
I can't do that
Yeah
My knees
I have slight arthritis
In both knees
Yeah
Well stem cells help that
Definitely does
There's a bunch of different things
You can do
To help that
Before it gets real bad.
But one of the things they're doing in Panama, I sent my mom down there to Dr. Neil Reardon.
He's very good.
Yeah.
Do you know who he is?
No.
No, no, no.
I had him on a show with Mel Gibson.
And Mel Gibson's dad was 92 when he went down there.
He was in a wheelchair.
He was all fucked up.
Eight years later, he's 100 years old.
He's fine.
He's 100?
He's 100.
Eight years old.
That's what happens when you're 92
and you live eight more years.
Thanks for doing the math.
No, that's what happens
when you yell shit out.
You can say racist shit.
You get it off your chest.
You live to your 100th.
Well, it's only the booze
that makes him racist.
I know.
So what?
Fucking guy's my hero.
Fucking love Mel Gibson.
Has he ever made a bad movie?
I mean, made it himself.
He's been in maybe a couple.
He's been in a few shit movies.
That's a toxic masculinity right there.
I liked Apocalypto.
That was awesome.
I thought that was great.
A lot of people shit on that movie.
That was right up your alley.
Yeah, I loved it.
Yeah, exactly.
I'm fascinated with that culture.
I thought you co-produced it when I watched it. I wish I was a part. No, I loved it. Yeah, exactly. I'm fascinated with that culture. I thought you co-produced it when I watched it.
I wish I was a part.
No, I loved that movie.
I think he's a very intense, very unusual, eccentric guy.
Just being around him, you get this sense of his energy.
It's like, it's all over the place.
Even now.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
From Lethal Weapon.
Yeah, I don't have that. Like a lot of that
I think probably came
like that character
probably came from
like the dark inner workings
of Mel Gibson's mind.
You know who he really is.
You're like that too though,
aren't you?
I don't have that energy.
Remember Trump kept calling
Jeb Bush low energy?
Yeah.
I was laying on the couch
going that's fucking me
he's talking about.
I'm laying on the couch
and I hear about somebody dying in an avalanche.
And I watch shit on TV and I laugh because I would never fucking be dropped off in a helicopter at the top of a mountain.
To go snowboarding.
Yeah.
And then they die.
I'm laughing my balls off.
I'm eating a bag of chips.
Well, the one person he's never called anybody anything is Nancy Pelosi.
And people are like, why hasn't he come up with a nickname for her yet?
Yeah.
You know?
Well, because you can't say cunt. That's going him the election that'll cost him in 2020 craig fitzsimmons had a joke
about that he's like it's countdown until trump calls hillary a cunt that thick-ankled dog face
that's what i call hillary i don't even call her uh what what kind of a nickname if you were going
to help him like if he hired you
Like Nick
Pelosi
I need a solid Republican comic
To help me with my one liners
What do you think?
Well I call her
On my show
I refer her to the
The leathery
Nippled
That's too wordy
I think she was pretty good looking
When she was back in her day
Like Lion Ted
Okay
Yeah
Fucking naughty Nancy What did he call hillary
crooked hillary crooked hillary lion ted how about uh energy jeb how about uh
yeast infection no in heels
how about lying liberal
fuck stick do you know that she's worth $100 million?
Yes, I do.
But she represents the little people, Joe.
She represents the working class.
You know, she has fucking walls around her mansion.
Meanwhile, people are laying their own feces in San Francisco.
Well, that Laura Loomer chick, the chick that handcuffed herself to Twitter, she hopped
Nancy's fence and started setting up a
migrant camp on Nancy's lawn.
Did you see that? What happened?
They kicked her out. What was the result?
Illegal. She's doing something illegal. She's trespassing.
I would say to Nancy, I'd be outside
the house going, this fence is immoral.
Right. Build that wall. Or don't.
I always think, the wall's stupid
when we have machine guns and tanks.
And flamethrowers. I was like, I took them. You don't have to kill. I always think the wall's stupid when we have machine guns and tanks. And flamethrowers.
Like, I took them.
You don't have to kill.
I'm serious about this.
You're going to laugh.
Okay.
Because you don't have to.
But seriously, I love how we rule out lethal force as far as protecting our border.
That's not even on the plate.
So, okay, it's too medieval to pick somebody off as they're climbing the fence.
But, okay, use something less lethal.
A super soaker filled with cat piss.
With a woman and her baby trying to come over here for a while.
Yes, that's who's coming over.
It's not fucking mostly 20-year-old males.
No, leave the women and children, whatever.
Just push them off the wall.
What do you do with them?
Send them back to where the fuck they came from.
You have no sympathy for those folks that are trying to come over here?
The ones that are-
We're immigrant children.
Yes, absolutely.
I mean, when did your parents come over?
My grandparents.
Grandparents, mine as well.
At the turn of the century, like 1902, 1903.
Yep.
They should have stayed in Italy.
You think?
People should have stayed in Poland. The Irish should have stayed in Italy. You think? People should have stayed in Poland.
The Irish should have stayed in Ireland.
We would have known Nick DiPaolo.
It would be great.
You can't do comedy over there.
That's not working, Joe.
You've got to admit.
What the fuck is wrong with you, Nick?
Have you watched these viral videos?
It's not working.
I know you're joking around.
I kind of.
You seem a little bit more dour.
Oh, no.
I'm very dour.
Previous conversations we've had.
I was faking it, Joe.
I was faking it joe i was faking it trump came along and i said i can say this get this off my chest the light
and cheeriness remember my bit i had a great bit about immigration how it was like having a big
party but you had to contribute to the party remember the bit it's one of my albums the
irish brought the booze the italians brought the food. The Italians brought the food. Oh, okay. Now I do remember that.
Remember?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And the Mexicans said, fuck it, we'll clean up afterwards.
You know.
Psss.
Yeah, psss.
People loved it.
And, but, no, I look, I defend Latinos all the time on my show.
They're like Italians.
We're at the turn of the century.
Yes.
Hard working.
And when you watch the news and you see a lot of people dying you know fighting for us a
lot of latino names in there oh for sure i'm a big fan that's not the problem you know so but i don't
think you should be labeled a bigot if you believe in you know securing the borders and it's not
immoral how about all the heroin coming over is that a lie too i mean you know how they're bringing
that over there did you pay attention to the Chapo trial?
They're bringing it mostly in cargo ships.
Most of it's coming over in cargo ships.
Yeah.
Remember from the Sopranos?
They said an 8 out of 10 cargo ships never get checked.
Yes.
Yes, I remember that.
Apparently that's true.
I was talking to a guy who was a longshoreman about that.
He's like, they don't know what the fuck's in those things.
I know.
Isn't that creepy?
One of them's going to blow up.
That's the fucking... Shh. Don't give them any ideas. They already have these ideas. They called me is gonna blow up that's the fucking you put don't
give them any ideas they already have these ideas they call me up and said that's not a bad idea
how did you get punched who why did that lady punch you it was a 20 year old uh bipolar girl
i was at levity live i did a show came off stage went into the green room for a few minutes
and then came back out and i was standing to the left of the stage.
And I don't always shake hands and do all that shit after the show.
I just don't feel it's in the job description.
Sometimes I'll do it, sometimes I won't.
But some people started coming up to me and shaking hands and taking pictures.
And this guy approaches me, sort of look like you a little bit, stands to my right.
And he goes, can I get a picture? And I go, little bit uh stands to my right and he goes can i get a picture that goes sure stand to my right i'm looking at him talking to him he's like yeah i enjoyed the show but my
daughter wanted to punch you in the face he didn't even finish the word face and i get suckered from
this i didn't even know she was in the fucking room all of a sudden bam whoa and i mean bam i
mean fucking you know i was i don't know if you ever get fucking suckered
uh i could feel the eye closing immediately you know and i looked right at him this is how good
my instincts were even when i was in shock i go did you just fucking set me up no it's nothing
like that man he didn't jump in and he didn't jump in and and go to his daughter what are you
doing you know it was kinder i this day, believe it was complicit.
He was complicit in it.
But I'm still pursuing it.
What did she do?
I finally looked at her.
I go, why'd you fucking, why'd you do that?
Because you're mean.
She thought I was racist and sexist.
Meanwhile, there was a table of black people, Dominican.
It was a very diverse crowd.
Absolutely loved it.
Come into my defense after that
happened. Nobody got offended.
Even a friend of mine who's seen me a million times, because you weren't even being
that political that night.
She had Birkenstocks on and, you know,
bipolar.
And I'm still pursuing it.
And the guy didn't apologize? Nothing?
He didn't apologize, but I said,
you just fucking said, no, I didn't, man.
It's nothing like that, you know. He said, no, I didn't, man. It's nothing like that.
He said, I shouldn't have brought her here.
But you did.
You weaponized your bipolar daughter is what you did.
I believe they sat down at the table before they left the house.
He knows what I did for comedy.
He didn't have the balls to do it himself.
You think?
Yeah.
That's what I think.
Look at you.
You worked up.
I'm going to work for those kettlebells before I leave here.
I'm going to find this motherfucker.
I'm going to get you on a bike and get you to burn off some energy.
Jesus Christ.
It might be that Black Rifle coffee.
I love this shit.
Veteran-owned coffee.
It's very potent.
I want to contribute to anything veterans do.
I got some bags for you.
I'll get you some.
It's great stuff.
But yeah, so the fucking high-
You had the funniest-
This is what's funny about it.
For years, people tell me to keep your temper in check.
Ba-ba-ba.
You'll fuck up your career.
You don't.
Ba-ba-ba.
I've been hearing that for years.
After this happened, they're all going,
why didn't you hit her back?
Why didn't you...
You texted me the next day or that night.
I can't remember.
And you said...
You go...
This made me laugh for five minutes.
You go, Joe goes...
I thought Joe was going to go,
good thing you didn't hit her back.
Joe goes, I would have fucking leg whipped her. Which made me laugh for five minutes. You go, Joe goes, I thought Joe was going to go. Good thing you didn't hit her back.
Joe goes, I would have fucking leg whipped her, which made me laugh so hard because she's this frail thing.
And if you leg whipped her, you would have taken her legs clear off like a helicopter
blade.
I was belly laughing for five.
You leg whipping this.
Leg kicker.
Yeah.
I don't think I would have said whip.
I thought you said, okay, excuse me.
Well, you got to.
You can't let someone punch you.
The real problem is like someone can really damage. Yeah. I saw you in the parking lot. Really someone punch you. The real problem is, like, someone can really damage...
Yeah.
I saw you in the parking lot.
Really hurt your eye.
That clip of you in the parking...
I have a permanent dent in my face.
Yeah.
You can see it.
I have a permanent dent.
I don't know if she had a ring on.
Really?
There's a little dent there.
Yeah.
She probably had a ring on.
Yeah.
Someone could hit you in the eye and you would lose.
I never went down, Joe.
Good for you.
That would have been embarrassing.
You could lose your vision.
I mean, that's 100% possible.
Happens to people all the time.
I had a slight concussion.
She really fucking caught me flying.
I'm not shocked,
especially if you didn't know it was coming.
What would you have done?
I don't know.
I hope I wouldn't have done what I think I would have done.
I know, because you could lose a lot of,
I know you get insurance for that.
The real problem is when you're not thinking,
when you get hit and then you immediately respond.
That's a real problem.
Because, look, you've seen that video of that giant 6'5 guy who punched that 11-year-old girl in the face.
Yes.
She had it coming.
Well, she definitely shouldn't have walked up to him with her fist up.
And she definitely shouldn't have pushed him first.
But he definitely shouldn't have punched her in the face.
This big, giant fucking guy.
I know.
Yeah.
With a nice shot.
You don't want to punch a girl. You don't want to punch a girl.
You don't want to hit a girl.
And I didn't.
You don't want to go into that reptilian part of your brain either that just responds to being assaulted.
Oh, that was killed.
That's very dangerous.
I saw you.
Remember that clip years ago?
You in the parking lot at the comedy store arguing with some bride.
Oh, that feminist lady.
She was just mean.
I thought you were going to...
Well, they're all...
I was trying to be nice to her.
They're the meanest people on the earth.
I was nice to that lady for a long time
until she's finally telling me
she's going to hit me with her cigarette.
I'm like, listen,
you're not doing anything.
I know.
I was watching her go,
what's going to happen next?
They're just so stupid
that people think they can get away
with things like that.
Well, they can, apparently.
If you were alone in a parking lot with that girl, and she punched you in the face like that.
What if I even fucking croaked her there?
What if I hit?
I said this, and I've been making this point.
You want true gender equality.
Yeah.
If we had it, I could have fucking knocked her the fuck out.
Yeah.
And everybody went, you know what?
She had it coming.
Yes.
And we all went home.
Well, there would have been.
But that's not the world we're living in right now, Joe.
You showed amazing restraint in not hitting her back.
Because I wasn't drinking.
And what if you were drinking?
I would have probably wrestled her.
At least cuffed her?
Yeah.
I've been in two fights.
Like an open-hand bear slap?
Yeah.
I would have gave her.
From behind, though, a dirty one.
Oh, a dirty one.
Yeah.
I would have came from here.
You ever see that video?
There's a kid uh a black kid walking
down the street and some black neighbor and he's rapping or some shit and this black kid walks up
from behind like in a wife beater and winds up from his asshole with an open hand it would blow
your ears out if you had the headphones but i uh i was proud of myself and that's why i was laughing
after the incident of people i know who've been telling me, you know, cool it or whatever, you should keep it.
They were all like, yeah, shut up, fucking body slammer.
My aunt's like, you should have fucked her up.
I was so proud of myself for once that I was, you know, I was the adult in the room.
And I, you know, I know in the times we're living in, it wouldn't matter the circumstance.
Toxic masculinity, if I croaked her.
Well, I don't know, man.
If somebody punches you and you punch them back, I don't know what the fucking rules are about that.
Oh, I do.
I mean, she's obviously very small.
That would have been a real problem because she's small.
But you shouldn't be fucking hitting people.
Now, you said you were working on it, like you're still in the middle of it like what's going on with it uh yes i uh
i'm pursuing it and they it's just so you can tell they don't give a fuck the the da was a woman
in that county and now she's off the case for some reason they shuffled the um but they went
they you know it should be assault or aggravated assault,
but of course you can't go because if you don't get that, I can't sue her civilly.
If I lost that, it would hurt my case.
At least that's the logic they were telling me.
So they're trying to get her with like second-degree harassment,
and now there's a new woman on the case, and she said they're making her go to anger management
because she has mental issues.
And I'm not looking for money.
I just want to make an example of her.
So, but why not pursue it as assault?
It's clearly assault.
I know.
Well, you tell me.
So, is your lawyer's decision to not pursue it that way?
No.
First of all, nobody wanted to take the case because I'm fine.
Really?
Yeah.
They're like, your sight's not fucked up.
You're not in a wheelchair.
But yeah, I give lawyers credit for that much.
They're honest.
It's all about the money.
But that's crazy.
But I found a guy, this guy Andrew Funk, who's a lawyer, who was a Marine.
And I said, he contacted me, and he put me in touch first with a Russian woman who took about three of my calls, and she got tired because there was no money involved.
And he hooked me up with another guy, another lawyer who right now I'm dealing with.
But, yeah, they were all right up front that if there's no money involved and you're not permanently, you're not going to, you know.
But I don't want money.
And this guy sort of agreed with me.
This Andrew Funk guy is a Marine. He just wants to make an example right she said i was racist and
sexist you know uh so i just want to make an example i'm not looking for money but it's her
father that really pisses me off she's nuts how old is this broad's nuts like 2021 goes to school
in upstate new york so she's not that nuts. She lives on her own. But it's the fucking old man
that was complicit in it.
I think he actually used her
as like a weapon that night.
It seems like it would be way harder
to prove that he was complicit
than it would be to prove that she punched you.
No, I agree.
Did she apologize ever?
Never.
She ran up into the lobby,
which is normally where you take pictures with
fans and she she she put her head on the table was crying after she realized what she'd done
or whatever you know they took her like a psychiatric hospital so they're saying well
you know you know so i i just want to make an example of her that's all i i don't i'm not
looking for but but uh you know That's ridiculous And the next time
I will hit back
You think?
Yeah
Don't
No?
No
Wait a minute Joe
You're confusing me now
It's too little
Well give me a kick
That would just
Like hurt her ovaries
What?
Ovaries
All three of them
Go for a knee
Go for
A knee
Knee to the pussy
It'd be how you damage
I don't want to lose my knee.
I just would say don't hit her.
I'm not going to hit her. I wasn't raised
that way. Even in the future, if somebody does that.
No, I'm not. I would never.
Stabbing or gunning. You prove it because you
haven't done it. You didn't do it. You had
the ultimate opportunity. Somebody actually hit you
and you didn't hit them back. It's one of my proudest moments.
Yeah, you should be proud of that.
I've been in.
Amazing restraint.
Do you ever get into it with a fan or somebody in the audience?
No.
I've been in twice.
One time at the comic store, a guy threw a drink at me.
Holy shit.
Yeah.
And how did you restrain yourself?
I don't remember.
I essentially invited him to get killed.
How'd you do that?
I said, come on.
Come on up here.
Come on up here.
I'll show you what's up.
Who would fucking throw a drink at you?
Some asshole.
It was him and his dad.
They were heckling everybody before the show.
Before I got on stage, rather.
They were heckling everybody.
This was a long time ago.
It was probably 2003, 2004.
But he knows who you are and he knows you're...
Yeah, he's just a pussy.
He just threw it my way
He wanted to get famous
Well he didn't even want to get famous
There was no social media back then
Not to speak of
People weren't getting famous or things like that
He's just a drunk asshole who was interrupting comedy
And the comedy store back then
Had zero protection
There was no crowd room
No crowd control at all.
But, yeah, it's a fucking
issue with people. They're drinking.
Right? And especially if you get crazy people
that are drinking, weird stuff
can happen. It's unfortunate.
Yeah. It's just
you know, people that don't have
respect for performers, too. They don't have respect
for what you're doing, that it's difficult.
And if they disagree with you, they think're disagreeing even if if it's just a
joke you didn't even know where the joke is going they'll interrupt and they'll yell stuff out and
they've just no no regard for the forum that you're in the fact there's hundreds of other
people that are there to see you it's about their mind and their selfish notion that they want to
get out right away and they and they have no idea how little it takes to throw off the balance of the room.
Oh, yeah.
Just a slight confrontation.
Just telling somebody to shut up, and all of a sudden, like, you're the bad guy.
And a lot of times, it's somebody right up front, so they can't hear.
Yeah.
You know?
And then it looks like you're just scolding somebody for no reason.
Yeah.
I've had that, too.
And I'm super sensitive.
Somebody farts in the 52nd row, I can hear it or whatever.
I am.
I just have that, you know.
Yeah.
Well, you know.
I've learned.
You tune into the crowd.
You know, exactly.
Yeah.
Exactly.
I mean, because you do.
You study what's going on.
You read their faces and whatnot.
And I'm really good at it.
And fucking, if I see one person laughing out of 600, I'm not laughing.
Yeah, you've always been like that.
No, but I fixed it.
I fixed it years ago.
Well, after about 12 clubs, I said, listen, you've got to stop doing it.
But you know what?
I am so much better.
And not hitting her proved it.
Now I had a brawl breakout that had nothing
to do with me at gotham a couple years ago what was it about two tables were fighting amongst each
other oh i heard about it was hilarious talk about hitting a girl i just stood on the stage
i love it i felt like lenny bruce so your comics have a lot of punk in us you know
i did but i didn't start this the fucking brawl breaks out i'm watching it two tables girls and guys involved there's a girl in the middle with her fists up like she took three
fucking taibo classes she's and she takes a swing and hits one of the bounces i watch this other
bouncer come across the room and drop her like a fucking used rubber i mean hit her like she was a
guy really oh my god i don't know how this guy didn't do jail time but these broads this is what Like a fucking used rubber. I mean, hit her like she was a guy. Really? Oh my God.
I don't know how this guy didn't do jail time.
But these broads, this is what this feminist movement has taken them.
Now they jump in.
Every time you see a fight at a football game, the stands is women involved and shit.
They really fucking think, I'm sorry, but legislation, you can't fucking legislate the
DNA out of us.
And they're always in the middle of it.
You notice that? A lot of fucking broads think they're always in the middle of it you notice that a lot
of fucking broads think they can do good out now well there are a bunch right have a delusion but
yeah yeah they've seen too many wonder woman movies well exactly they've been brainwashed
well there's a lot of people in general that think they could go around punching people like how about
all these uh antifa dorks that are uh at least show your face well they're not like that they're
starting fights with people and they have zero idea how to fight.
They're swinging at people.
Did you see the one guy?
A guy swings at this guy with a bat or with a baton.
The guy catches the baton and punches him in the face and KOs him,
and his head snaps back,
and his head bounces off the concrete when he falls down.
It's awful to watch.
What the fuck made you think you could just hit a man with a stick
because you guys disagree with each other?
Yeah.
And you're right.
When they interview him after,
a lot of times they,
not even after a fight,
but they interview somebody who's Antifa,
they sound almost swishy,
some of them.
Swishy, like homosexual?
Is that what you're saying?
No, I wouldn't go that far.
Feminine.
Oh, feminine.
Well, they want to become a...
Look, Antifa is just like
any other group of people.
They give you a community, whether it's a gang or whether it's a criminal organization or whatever it is.
People fall in line with the sensibilities of that organization and then you do what you can to support that organization to show that you're a valued member.
to support that organization to show that you're a valued member and then you know you start wearing their fucking ski masks and hitting people with sticks and everybody's practicing karate in the
park because they think they're going to be able to defend themselves the whole thing is ridiculous
but because their life has no value outside of that well isn't it weird to you that look my
parents were hippies and when i grew up i always thought that people on the left were peace-loving
that was what the the the knock was they were peace-loving. That was what the knock was.
They were peace-loving, well-educated.
But you're seeing now people on the left, like these certain factions of them, not all of them, but people that are calling for violence.
They're violent pacifists, ironically.
Yes.
Well, they don't want to do it themselves, but they're calling for other people to do it.
Yeah.
Right.
They're calling for people to get punched.
Like that kid with the MAGA hat
Like Reza Aslan Ron
Have you ever seen a more punchable face?
Yeah
What the fuck are you saying man?
You know it's like
There's extreme lack of empathy for young people too
Like young people that
That don't fall in line with their ideas
They don't give a fuck
Right
Fuck that kid
Punch him
Throw him in jail
Lock him up
It's just like
There's a lack of empathy And a lack of thought behind it.
It's very-
And social media is only throwing gas on that.
Yes.
And then you got these Russian accounts that are firing this up on both sides, that are
attacking from the left and the right.
I think that's a way bigger issue than people think.
I think these troll farms and these people that are setting up these
fake accounts and just getting people riled up maybe i think there's a lot of fucking lemmings
out there and a lot of people just christia they fall into these arguments like how many people do
you know they get involved in twitter arguments and then they they stew with those arguments all
day they keep checking their mentions they get heavily involved with that if someone can get
you involved in that like if the russians can get a group of dummies involved in that kind of dispute,
they could literally change the way people are interacting with each other.
They're making the interactions more aggressive, more violent.
So you think it's the Russians?
I think it has something to do with it.
I think there's a polarization between the left and the right, period.
But I think they are definitely accentuating it.
They're throwing gas on it.
Yeah, this thing that I was reading, or listening to, rather, this Sam Harris podcast, very fucking interesting.
Because they're talking about what we actually know about the data and where it's coming from and how these people are doing this and how they're setting these things up.
and how they're setting these things up.
Yeah, that guy, the comic that you and I talked about,
again, that clip of this Russian who was a former KGB guy who defected to this country, explaining how it works.
Back in the 80s.
Explaining exactly how it works.
And what he was saying, this is 30-something years ago,
35 years ago, is going down exactly the way he explained it.
And Putin is a KGB guy.
Oh, Christ, yeah.
Yeah, I mean, that's...
This idea that Trump's working with him is fucking silly.
Well, I don't know about that.
I don't think he's working with him to undermine democracy,
but I definitely think they've got some business dealings.
I mean, they were offering him the Trump...
Well, yes, but that's not illegal.
The penthouse and Trump power...
That's not illegal.
None of that is illegal.
Don't take that from me.
Take that from Alan Dershowitz.
I don't...
He's smarter than both of us. I'm not saying it's illegal, but I don't take that for me take that from alan dershowitz i don't smarter than both of us i'm not saying it's illegal but i don't think that he was honest
about that he said i don't do any dealings with russia i don't have any business with russia and
he definitely did that's just not true well we'll see we'll see that's what the targeting they're
not gonna get him for anything you don't think so you think he's gonna just well maybe impeachment
but i don't even on on what case I don't even know what they get him.
High crimes and misdemeanors.
I don't know what he's done.
To talk about building a tower in Moscow is not illegal.
Or to have business.
And what did he lie about specifically?
Well, there's a lot.
Like what?
We could pull it up.
Let's find out all the things that John Lysa...
Well, what are you going to go to?
Salon.com?
No, you can go to a million different websites.
Well, I know, but which ones are telling the good independent website?
We just established that the fucking social media tilts left, so.
Yes, social media does.
We're not talking about pulling up social media pages.
What are you pulling up?
I don't know.
Washington Post?
I'm not a Trump scholar.
I don't have at my disposal all the different times that he lied, but it's a lot.
So what do you think is going to happen to him?
You think they'll impeach him, you mean?
No.
Or he'll resign or what?
I don't know.
Look, I'm not claiming to be any sort of an expert in legal proceedings.
I have no idea.
Me either.
That's why I quoted Dershowitz.
Yeah.
I think, well, isn't Dershowitz working with Trump?
No.
Giuliani is.
Oh, that's right.
Dershowitz is the-
Another old dumb joke.
I always go to Dershowitz because he's a fucking
lib trump averaged 15 inaccuracies and mistruths a day in 2018 almost triple the rate from a year
before okay but hold on a second what's the inaccuracies and mistruths it's a european paper
yeah but isn't that a little odd 15 a day no because i don't know who's making that claim i
don't know the exact 15 inaccuracies. You doubt
that it's true? You think it's all a lie? That it just
made up the fact that he lies a lot?
Lies about
what? First of all, it's a definition of a lie.
I don't know. Let's see. It says Washington
Post, who they hate. Who hates
Trump. Jeff Bezos. Yeah. Who absolutely hates Trump.
The president made 1,989
such claims in 2018.
By the last day of 2018.
Yeah, you're going to the Washington Post.
That's my point.
But let's see what it says.
I mean, they can't lie.
The total figure of vision to 7,600.
So you think they just made up all these lies?
Of course.
Not all of them, I'm sure.
But you could go back with Hillary and fucking count.
You could go to Fox News and then pull up an article of how many times Hillary was inaccurate.
Do you know what a whataboutism is?
A whataboutism?
Yeah, when someone talks about something and instead of refuting it with facts, they go,
yeah, well, what about Hillary?
What about Bill?
Bill did it too.
What about this?
What about that?
Are you going to tell me?
That's a whataboutism.
That's what I just committed?
That was a whataboutism.
Because you were saying that Hillary lied.
We both agree.
But you're making my point.
You're going to the Washington Post.
Okay, that's just Jamie pulled up the Independent.
We could go anywhere.
But hold on a second.
Look, I'm with you.
I think Hillary's a liar.
I think she deleted 30,000 emails.
I think it's criminal.
I think the Clinton Foundation's a fucking fully illegal organization.
I think they rigged the DNC.
I think they rigged the primaries against Bernie.
I'm with you.
I'm not a supporter.
No, I'm not saying you are, but when's the last time somebody made a statement like that?
And said this many inaccuracies when Bill Clinton was in office?
I don't think he lied as much.
Or Hillary, or whatever.
I'm sure there were some inaccuracies.
But first of all, when Bill Clinton was in office, they weren't-
Did they count Obama's?
I don't know, but that's a whataboutism.
You know what I'm saying? We're just talking about Trump trump you were saying that trump doesn't lie and they're saying
he lies i'm not saying he doesn't lie first of all you said what does he lie no first of all
you know i like to know the definition of a lie if he misstates something
do you think he does it right i'm sure sometimes when you're talking that much. Okay, so if he lies 1,900 times in a day.
Give me an example of a blatant lie.
Yeah, that's fucking, it's Washington Post.
It's horseshit.
I don't know.
I do.
You think it's all lies.
Not all of it.
No, he's a bullshitter for sure.
Yes.
But to take, Joe, would you argue that they haven't been trying to take him down since he came down that fucking escalator?
How about the deep state?
How about the fucking dossier?
Why is anybody not being-
Wait, wait, wait.
What does that mean?
The dossier.
What dossier?
The fake dossier, Christopher Steele, that they used to get the Pfizer application.
Explain to people what you're talking about.
I just did.
They know what I'm talking about.
No, no, no, no.
They don't.
They don't because I don't know.
What do you mean?
The dossier.
The fake dossier. Remember they said- Do you know what he's talking about they had yes they had you have to know this so you're being willfully ignorant no i don't know nick nick i don't know okay i'm
i'm explaining hold on a second do you know i've heard these are terms i've heard yes and
but you don't know the full extent yeah well this is what i'm talking about this is as big a story as anything trump has done what is the story the steel dossier that uh hillary used they went to you had to get a
application from the pfizer courts and they went they used uh dnc opposition christopher steel
who's a british guy had connections in russia remember when they said trump was at a hotel
and watching girls peeing on each other?
Yes.
That was all in the Steele dossier.
Christopher Steele is his name.
They used that in their application
to get a FISA warrant to spy on Trump
during his campaign.
That's fact.
That's not me being a right-winger.
That is fact.
Okay.
But the fact that you don't know that.
No, I remember that now. oh that that's what i'm
talking about but you that's the biggest story as trump you know lying about the number of people
at his inauguration i want to know the i want to know a lie from trump that's uh equal uh equal in
power as like when obama said you know lied about health care that you could keep your health care
and all that give me an example of Trump with that big of a lie.
Well, listen, I told you.
He does lie.
I'm not saying he doesn't.
All presidents lie.
All politicians lie.
I'm just saying they start to count it when Trump took over.
They started keeping, you know, keeping statistics.
Well, because it's so egregious.
Well, like what?
Give me an example.
Like, look, we just showed you all the numbers of the Washington Post provider.
From the Washington Post.
So if i give you
another example you're going to say oh that's from this or that's from that if you go to salon.com
salon.com all right we'll go to i don't know what you've gotten more done than any other
administration okay this is a lie so true blah blah blah see now so if somebody says that's a
lie let's see what it's that jamie go back to it what are you doing but who's saying that's a lie. Well, let's see what it says. Jamie, go back to it. What are you doing? But who's saying that's a lie?
Well, let's see.
Let's see.
Let's see what it says.
Jesus Christ, you're so defensive.
It's like, do you work for the organization?
No, I don't.
But you're putting... I'm saying what it's...
You're using the Washington Post.
No, this isn't the Washington Post.
Well, what is it?
This is NBC.
Oh, the NBC.
Okay, NBC.
Okay, so everything is that.
Look, man, I'm just reading what's in front of me
I know and I'm just
you're so emotional about this
it's ridiculous
I have four cups of coffee
in me show
we should have had two
huh
oh please
you know I'm right
I don't know you're right
that's what we're talking about
are you going to tell me
you don't know that the
mainstream media hates Trump
they do
are you going to
I do
I agree
why would you put your
fucking
because I want to know
whether or not
they are saying
what is
stop doing that, Jamie.
Go back to where it was.
You can't go...
Trump later said that he intended the UN moment to garner a laugh that has repeated this claim seriously since.
Okay, so he says that...
Which part was it?
My administration has accomplished more than almost any administration in the history of the country.
So this is just...
That's an exaggeration.
This falls into him being a bullshitter.
That's hyperbole.
Right.
And people were laughing when he said that.
And so he was saying that he meant to say it as a laugh.
Okay.
There are varying measures of success, but it's not true that his administration has been more successful than any other administration in history.
When it comes to legislation, Trump has signed plenty of bills in his first two years as
president, but Barack Obama in his first two years has significantly more signed significantly more okay this is just one
thing i mean i'm sure there's many many other things absolutely going over and over again
i'm with you i'm not saying he's not a bullshitter but i'm just saying all of a sudden they keep
score when it went try he's no more of a liar than to keep score because he lies so much
well who's keeping who is keeping score when fucking hillary was secretary of state
well it's a senator in washington secretary of state and i don't know how much she lied as
opposed to how much he relies are a lot bigger there's about her fucking server and about the
steel dossier that that is huge that is getting undercovered like nobody's been that that dwarfs
watergate when they unmask general flynn that that dwarfs watergate. When they unmask General Flynn.
That dwarfs Watergate.
That's an interesting conversation.
I don't know if that's the truth.
I don't know enough about Watergate.
All right.
And I don't know enough about that either.
Okay.
Is it the coffee going on here?
Well, yeah.
I'm fucking strung out.
Can we move away from something political? Since when do you get afraid of an emotional guy?
I'm fucking nuts.
It's not emotional.
It's just... I'm just... But you're acting as if i'm against you you're not against me even if you
were that'll be fine but you're not you're not against me but i'm just saying to call trump a
bigger lie than the fucking every other politician is an exaggeration i don't know by the mainstream
media who hates his guts i think most politicians arears. I think they're just accustomed to doing that.
But I think the way he lies is unusual.
I think it's the numbers are unusual.
It's just an unusual...
You don't think so?
He exaggerates.
Statements like that is an exaggeration.
Although he did do a lot in his first couple years.
Would never get credit for it.
Unless you watched Fox News. you're not going to, but.
Would you agree that as you get older, you become more like more conservative?
No, I was always a bit of a dick.
I got a tattoo of Nixon on my ass.
I thought it was for.
Yes.
No, I would say that was, that's a, what do they say about if you're what do they say about if you're young and conservative, you have no soul?
No heart.
Yeah, no.
If you're old and liberal, you have no mind.
Yeah, something like that.
Yeah, I would say that's true.
But I could always detect the bullshit.
I mean, I remember watching CNN in an airport when I first started comedy, and that's like 1988, you know, and getting excited at some of the shit well it's interesting because uh i don't disagree with you on everything and i love
you as a person you're a great guy i like you a lot always happy to see you but yet you and i here
get a little heated talking about this stuff but this is politics this is how divisive
politics are if even a person like but i But I would never fucking, I would never leave here going, I don't want to do that show again.
No, no, I'm sure.
I hate Joe Ross.
I think this is great.
We've known each other for 30 years.
Yeah.
That's not the problem.
What I'm saying is, I'm just using it as an example of how divisive politics are.
Oh, absolutely.
When people talk about things.
But I'm not afraid of it.
No.
You know what I mean?
A lot of people are, right?
Yes.
Yeah.
I'm not afraid of it.
A lot of people are afraid of bad vibes and bad feelings.
Yes, they are.
But this is one of the things that makes people toe the line.
Right.
The fear of this kind of altercation.
The fear of this kind of, like, you don't want that from inside your party.
So you start using they and them.
You start thinking that everyone should be able to use any bathroom that they feel like they identify with.
You start going along the line.
It's one of the more interesting things about politics is that if you tell me that you're a Republican, I can kind of guess your stance on God.
I can kind of guess your stance on being pro-life, pro-choice, Second Amendment rights.
It's like all those things sort of fall in line.
And it's like all those things sort of fall in line and it's very interesting it's very interesting how you you sort of adopt not you but people sort of adopt a whole group
of things when you decide you're a republican you decide you're a democrat right i don't but
yeah i don't think i fall into that um how do you feel about guns do Do you got any of them? What? Got any guns?
Yeah
How many you got?
One
Just one?
Yeah
I'm not a big gun guy
As far as abortion
I don't want to say pro-choice
But I'm not pro-life
One of the big reasons is
Like I got a dad who's dying of Alzheimer's
Watching him
It's the saddest thing.
If I could kill him tomorrow and put him out of his misery, I would.
I think you could take him to Oregon.
There's states that allow that.
There's states that allow people to, I think.
Can I go over state lines with him?
Is it like taking a teenage girl over state lines?
No, there was a girl who was dying of cancer who went to Oregon for that very reason.
Yeah, Oregon is one of those, I might be saying it wrong, but I think the idea is a right to a dignified death.
No, you're right.
Just right about.
Yeah.
Look, man, the idea that you're supposed to just keep staying alive until your fucking heart stops beating.
Silly.
Horrible pain.
Silly.
It's evil.
Don't do it to your dog.
I had to put my dog down.
Okay, I love this dog.
I've had him for 13 years.
I had to put him down because he couldn't walk anymore.
What did you do, chuck him out?
I brought him to a place.
They actually came to my house, actually, and they put him down.
Sad shit, but you can't do that for a 98-year-old man who's fallen apart.
You have to let him eventually stop breathing.
Right.
You know?
Which is sad.
All the rights should go out the window.
That should be your first right.
It's your goddamn life.
Yeah.
So that's why I couldn't be like pro-life or whatever.
And I got girls pregnant when I was younger, and I was glad there was a Planned Parenthood,
whatever it was.
Yeah.
The guy in the alley with the stick.
Who?
I think his name was Dave.
As long as he's named.
So I don't, but in showbiz, Joe, you know how it is in showbiz, because this is a pretty liberal business.
If you're right on two of ten issues, you're like a fucking Nazi.
Right.
You know what I mean?
Well, I get called alt-right adjacent.
It's my favorite
oh my god they keep coming up with that well you can't call me all right because i'm pretty left
wing on most things yeah they call so they call me alt-right adjacent probably because i have people
like you on now i'm going to be more alt-right adjacent because you because isn't that silly
you have me on to you know your listeners probably you know like you're like listen to this guy i
don't agree with anything that should be a feather in your cap and they're gonna hold that against
you yeah it's weird silly well you know it's not rational but again it's people trying to
have an effect on you they're trying to have an effect they're trying to make some waves trying
to do something they're writing blogs or creating videos.
But they're doing it to try to put pressure on you.
It's interesting, though.
It's weird from a psychological perspective.
You're looking at it from the outside.
You know, it's disconcerting when it's happening to you,
but when you step back and look at it, like, it's interesting.
It's like these systems are opposing each other,
and they're trying to figure out where the weaknesses are and how to push to affect the other side.
Yeah, and it's not just left-right.
It's bigger than that.
What was the book I read?
What's the place where they go to meet every year?
Bohemian Grove?
Bilderberg Group?
Bilderberg Group.
That was one of my favorite books the truth
about the bilderberg group and um what goes on there and the powerful people that meet and uh
people always say there's probably 10 guys in a room that run the whole fucking well okay but
you show me them until then i'll stay in the left right fight and have fun right the idea is that
there's 10 guys they control everything
and they don't give a fuck if it's left or right they're just about money
it's yeah
the Rockefellers were involved
but it's weird that was really
creepy they planned shit out decades ahead
yeah they planned out an education
yeah decades ahead
though and it comes true
like they write a sitcom script
that lasts for 15 years with plot points it was that book was incredible i can't remember the
author's name but um yeah but i don't i don't mind i used to sit at that table at the comedy
cellar that's how tough crowd came about me and patrice yelling at each other about racial shit
tough crowd was a great fucking show but i really am worried that
you couldn't have a show like that i know you should be now now let me ask you and i'm not
taking left right but who would be to blame for that that that's why i lean right and i think
and you do in some areas you're in a i mean you're an artist you're a stand-up
i cannot be i cannot vote with a party that is for censorship and for groupthink.
Did we ever find out what's going on with Dennis Prager?
Did we get a line on that?
Is that still bothering you?
No, no.
It does bother me because I like the guy.
He's great.
I don't agree with him on a lot of things, but he seems like a very nice guy, and I like Adam.
I do, too.
Both those guys.
There's a lawsuit. He's bringing a adam i do too both those guys there's a
lawsuit he's bringing a lawsuit that uh they think it's going to go a long way there's because they
were labeling his show as hate speech maybe it's back up or whatever but i know that story you can
find that anywhere there's a real concern that the ideologies behind these tech companies all
go in one direction and they have the overwhelming control of the narrative because
of the fact that they're all – we're getting all of our information.
Most people are getting it on their phones.
Most people are getting a lot of their media on their phones.
Netflix said something like 50% of the people that watch my special watch it on a phone.
That's amazing.
I mean, that's crazy that people are – so all this stuff is coming from these tech companies.
Doesn't that kind of bother you that it's the phone?
Because when I hear that, not that it matters with my specials, but when I picture somebody watching something on a phone, you don't have their full attention.
They're doing other things.
You know what I mean?
As opposed to sitting in front of their computer or their TV.
Yeah.
Does that kind of bug you?
You put all that work into it And they're on the subway Watching it
And then
I don't pay attention
To what I can't control
I don't
It makes me nuts
Yeah
You gotta get over that
That's where the mushrooms
Come in
You do love it
I'm gonna have to try though
Try a little one
I'll give you a little one
Just a one stamp
Not today
I gotta drive to San Diego
Oh it's perfect
Me in traffic?
Yeah
Whoa You're on mushrooms? What time is your show? I know I'm fucking gonna be What time is your show? Today, I got to drive to San Diego. Oh, it's perfect. Me in traffic? Yeah.
We're on mushrooms?
What time is your show?
I know.
I'm fucking going to be- What time is your show?
7.30.
I pulled it up on Waze.
It says if I leave at three, it's going to take four hours.
Oh, you better leave at two then.
It's almost two.
Are you kicking me out of here?
No, no, no.
What did I say wrong, Joe?
You didn't say anything wrong.
Was the coffee?
Did I get too cooky?
I just drove there last week for Brendan Schaub's special
He shot a Showtime special
How long did it take?
It took me five and a half hours
To get down there
Took me fucking forever
I thought you might be flying
I didn't want to
I was going to bring it up
Before the show
I thought I saw you
At a show there tonight
My manager
My manager
Yeah
My manager thought
He was doing me a favor
Well just pull it up in Google
Just pull it up
On Waze right now
Yeah well Google will do it too
If you just Google I'm a Waze right now. Yeah, well, Google will do it, too. If you just Google...
I'm a Waze guy.
Where is the gig?
Where are you at?
Comedy Palace.
Hey, ladies, don't punch him.
Now you know where he is.
Don't show up.
I know you're going to throw that in my face.
You motherfucker.
You racist piece of shit.
You fucking sexist.
You hate women.
Feminism is not cancer.
Oh, it is. It's a a fucking it's a uterine cancer
future females are the future the future's feminine i'll take my life tonight that's the
filthy whores anyways fucking hairy thick ankle girls who can't get laid and they turn their
anger some of them are pretty they just i haven't met a stripper who's a feminist yet oh wow and
i've talked to almost two of them in the last 40 years.
3.45 right now.
Three hours and 45 minutes.
Three hours and 45 minutes.
About six o'clock if you're not afraid of us.
If you leave right now, you get there an hour before the show.
You're kicking me out, Joe.
No, no, no, no, no.
Don't make me come across as a kid.
What I'm nervous about, and I'm just being honest,
what I'm nervous about is that it's going to get exceedingly longer in the next hour.
Do you understand it's making me nervous that you're nervous?
I was the one who was going to have to get out of here a little early.
I thought you were going to go, you'll be fine.
You'll fucking get there.
Dude, I got down to San Diego on Saturday night.
I was delirious.
I'd been smoking in fucking fumes.
The fumes from the highway because everything was stop and go the whole way.
You still might want to try to catch a flight if you can. The only thing to say is- Oh because everything would stop and go the whole way. You still might want
to try to catch a flight
if you can.
The only thing that saved me
was...
Oh, I'm not going
to the fucking airport.
Run the jewels.
I would rather walk.
Run the jewels
is the only thing
that saved me.
Just rocking out in my car.
It was a horrible drive.
Yeah.
Well, the whole world
lives here, of course.
It's going to be horrible.
No.
The real Americans
live in the middle,
don't they?
Jesusland? Yeah. The flyover states? I'd rather live in ohio where do you like to work where's like your favorite place to perform see
that's where i'm gonna get you san francisco i love san francisco i'm kidding i haven't been
there in years they loved me when i was in the competition because like some people are happy
that someone's like bucking the trend that's right well that's how it used to be, but that's how left-wing and then fucking stupid they've turned into.
Bobby Slayton could have run for mayor of San Francisco, right?
Yeah.
Does he still play up there a lot?
I have not seen Bobby in forever.
They love me.
I almost won that competition.
They had me at the punchline twice a year for like three years.
I love the punchline.
And then all of a sudden, no go.
But I don't... People's tough, people always say,
I bet you killed down south in Atlanta.
No, those people, they all have guilt complexes
about being racist and bigots.
So when you do something off color,
they're laughing under their cowboy hats.
What about Cleveland?
Cleveland's a tough one for me.
They don't have a like, they don't have like,
I don't know, my sarcasm's almost too,
they're almost too Midwest for me.
You know what I mean?
Honest to God.
Really?
What about Columbus?
I don't do Columbus.
Why don't you do Columbus?
I don't know.
Artie Lang got in trouble
for fucking doing black jokes there.
I don't do black jokes.
I'm just saying.
I don't know.
So Artie Lang got in trouble there
so he's like,
oh, scratch that one off the list. Too dangerous prop a black bouncer complained because he did a black
joke i'm like oh that sounds like a great club yeah which club is this the funny bone yeah it's
a great fucking club i know i'll get there get over there i will go i'll get there all right
no because it's changed a lot since um well i just said because i thought it's i want to do
small theaters joe i
don't want to do clubs oh okay you know yeah i'm doing this to cover the cost of coming out here
tonight and i'm doing ventura harbor comedy club because i oh that's a good spot it's fun
that chinese restaurant well no it's an actual club upstairs yeah it's a chinese restaurant
it is not it's a comedy club i worked it what do you mean a chinese restaurant it's connected to
a chinese restaurant chinese food there oh it's connected to a comedy club. I worked it. What do you mean a Chinese restaurant? It's connected to a Chinese restaurant.
Well, they have Chinese food there.
Oh, it's connected to a restaurant.
Well, don't make it sound like I'm standing in the kitchen.
I worked there.
I told you I worked there, too.
Well, the mochi pork's coming up.
What the fuck?
It's a good spot.
I love it.
So I'm doing that Sunday night.
I'm not scared to work at a Chinese restaurant.
Is this coming up?
This is streaming live, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So comedy pal, I'm counting on it because I did no radio.
I'm polishing their knuckles Right now
Good
I'm fucking
I have two knives in my car
Can I bring that samurai thing
Can I bring that
1500 year old sword
I want to give you
Some sort of protection
I don't want to give you
A weapon
Oh please
I can do 12 deep knee bends
Nobody's going to fuck with me
12
What about
Come on
You can admit
For 57
I'm hanging in there
You look good bro
I'm hanging in there
Especially for no hormone replacement
I know
I'm trying to get you on the sauce
You don't think that's my first call?
Me?
Yeah
Yeah
I'll hook you up
I'll get you to the doctor
They'll take care of you
Figure out what your
Blood levels are at
Get you on the right vitamins
Can it be a doctor
Me in New York
Right?
Oh for sure
There's a lot near you
Gotta get you off of these though
Get you on of these.
What do you got there?
Marijuana.
Yeah, I know.
I heard.
Scared of the marijuana.
Doesn't it help you go to sleep or something?
Aren't you one of those guys?
No, I can't.
I don't remember.
I took one-eighth of an edible.
It was like doing acid for me.
I was watching Bob Newhart, and all of a sudden I was in this fucking show, and it was in
Black and Wife, and my wife was not not my wife and my house was not my house.
I got all this.
So this is from a little bit of an edible.
Those are strong.
They're making them strong.
They're doing horrible things to people out here.
But now they have new rules
where each edible has to be 10 milligrams,
which is doable.
But here's the thing.
Ain't nobody measuring those fucking things.
How about the CBD shit, Joe? CBD's great. But here's the thing. Ain't nobody measuring those fucking things. How about the CBD shit, Joe?
CBD's great.
I know.
I went into a bar in New York, and the bar attendant pushed it on me.
They were like, he had like a campaign going.
And the problem was I had already had a couple drinks, so I couldn't tell, but I slept good when I took it.
Yeah, CBD's amazing.
Yeah?
Yeah, some of it has a little bit of THC in it But it's very little
Most of it is very little
But it's really good
For your joints
And for aches and pains
Yeah
Inflammation and stuff like that
For a lot of people
It's good for anxiety
You know
I don't have any of that
I'm as cool as a cucumber
Wow amazing
Even with the cigarettes
Amazing
That's what keeps me cool
What about Texas
Do you like working in Texas
Yes
Yeah
I gotta be honest I haven't been to these places In a while But yes What You don't go to Texas No I did It keeps me cool. What about Texas? Do you like working in Texas? Yes. Yeah.
I've got to be honest.
I haven't been to these places in a while, but yes.
You don't go to Texas?
No, I did.
I was in Dallas.
And some of the jokes that make people cringe elsewhere were getting rounds of applause.
In Dallas.
Anytime I said Jew, just, you know, not in a hateful way.
Am I fucking nice?
But, you know. Maybe you say Jew, and it's not in a hateful way. It might be fucking nice, but, you know.
Maybe you say Jew, and it's not in a hateful way.
It sounds hateful.
It does sound.
That's a weird word.
Louie does a bit about that.
I used to ask Louie when we lived together, I go, how come we first moved to New York? I said, I hear people saying, yeah, he's a Jew or whatever, and nobody gets mad and stuff.
Because in Boston, if somebody said, yeah, that fucking Jew.
But Dallas was great for me.
Dallas is great.
Oh my God.
Houston's great.
Austin's great.
Texas is the shit.
Houston I did an album in Houston.
Austin on
Do you do it at the Laugh Stop
in River Oaks?
Yes.
What a great club that was.
I did an album there.
Is it there no more?
No it's not.
That was
Apparently the building
is still there.
Yeah. What is it now? They use it sometimes like they'll have shows there sometimes i think someone had something there for a while i don't know the full story but that was one of the
greatest clubs ever laugh stop and river oaks remember that crazy dude was running it the
fuck's his name yeah fuck's his name bald guy yes mark yes yes yeah yeah he had an italian last name oddly enough joey knew him
real well real well i forgot about that dude yeah yes and that was bill hicks yeah place they had a
fucking legit open open mic in the fucking yeah in the front in the front part and it was legit
like good comics i watched it i go these kids are open mics Yeah Some about Houston right
Yep
Houston is a very
Eclectic city
It's really different
It's not what people think of
When they think of Houston
They think of like cowboy hats
And oil
No
It's not
It's very diverse
There's a lot
It's very urban
There's a lot of cool shit
Going on in Houston
Very artistic
I'm a big fan
Yeah
Same with like
People always go You must kill an Atlantan I'm a big fan. Yeah. Same with like, you know, people always go, oh, you must kill in Atlanta and shit.
I'm like, no, they're PC.
They're cosmopolitan areas for the most part.
Yeah, you don't kill in Atlanta?
Well, I kill if I want to.
But some of the shit that you think, but some of the stuff you think would kill, you know,
it's like, even for us down here.
Right.
But, you know, cosmopolitan areas is more, you know.
What about Phoenix?
Phoenix is a good spot.
Phoenix is good.
That's a great spot.
Yeah.
Yeah.
There's a few great spots.
If you didn't live in New York, where would you live?
For comedy purposes?
Yeah.
For life and comedy.
For life and comedy?
Yeah.
Burlington, Vermont.
Really?
No, I'm kidding.
Be up there with fucking Ben and Jerry? No. Knock it on Vermont. Really? No, I'm kidding. Fucking be up there with fucking Ben and Jerry.
No, I would-
Knock it on Bernie's door.
Where would I?
Boy.
It has to involve comedy.
Probably Texas.
Really?
Yeah.
Somewhere.
My brother lived outside of Dallas and he loved it.
That's great.
Would you have money?
You could have seven castles.
Ooh, seven.
I don't want seven.
Too many to look after.
Folks, you should see the place we're in doing Joe's show.
Yeah.
The gym outside is worth it.
It's a nice gym.
I like Texas.
I'm a big fan of Texas.
I'd live in Texas.
I think I'd live in Colorado first, though.
Yeah?
Yeah.
Weed?
Not just weed.
Mountains.
You like the mountains?
I love what it does for you. There's something about being, mountains. You like them, huh? I love what it does for you.
There's something about being around mountains that it, I was actually reading something
about this, that there's an actual thing that happens to people when you're faced with immense
natural beauty, that it diminishes your ego and yourself, and it puts people in, you know,
what you would call a more spiritual perspective.
Being around mountains, It's humbling
Sure
You're around them
It's beautiful
It's like the best looking art
You could ever see
It's like a gorgeous mountain
With some green hills
And the sun coming out of the clouds
It's as good to look at
As anything that's ever existed
Like I'm not very religious
I don't know
I haven't made up my mind
But when I see stuff like that
Is when I get kind of
You want to make up your mind? I when I see stuff like that is when I get kind of...
You want to make up your mind?
I got something right here for you.
What is that, mushrooms?
That's what mushrooms are.
I know, that's exactly what they're for.
Come on, bro.
Just make up your mind.
How about Joe?
Can you imagine if I took these and did your show before?
Just take a little one like this.
No, fuck that.
Nobody's got to get hurt. Just a little one like this. No, fuck that. Nobody's got to get hurt.
Just a little one.
Jamie, would you do that?
Maybe.
Just a little one.
I don't want to be giggling
in the car on the way down
throwing up on myself.
You'll be fine.
What's it do?
What's going to happen?
I want to get out of here
before it takes effect.
That's going to get me
in a fucking
some type of scissors lock.
It should be legal.
It's supposed to be legal everywhere.
I believe that.
It would make people
mellow the fuck out, right?
It would.
Open that third eye, man.
It would do something
really good for people.
The problem is you forget
you take it sometimes.
You know, like an hour
and a half later,
you're like,
why am I so weak?
Oh, okay.
Yeah, I don't want to be
that far in my own head.
That's scary.
Have you ever done
the float tank?
No. You want to do that? Well, I can't. I can't. I you ever done the float tank? No.
You want to do that?
Well, I can't.
I can't.
I've got to float
the fucking San Diego.
I should go down there
on the raft
like everybody else does.
Last time I ran into you.
I am so nervous
that you get nervous
about me making my show.
Do you understand?
Yeah.
I think we're going to
get you out of here
in about 15 minutes.
That's what I think
is the right move.
Is that all right?
Yeah.
I think that's the right move.
Maybe 10. You guys got me really fucking nervous now. Yeah, I think that's the right move. Maybe 10.
You guys got me
really fucking nervous now.
I wish I wasn't,
but at least you have Waze.
Waze will put you
on some weird fucking
funky backcountry routes
that'll cut 20 minutes
out of it.
I'll end up in Mexico.
You'll be fine.
Very close to Mexico,
but super conservative.
That's what's interesting
about San Diego.
I used to,
my first album,
I did in La Jolla.
Military.
Yes.
It's all military down there
Yeah
Safe as fuck
Yeah
Maybe I'll have one of those guys
At my show tonight
People have said to me
Like where would you
Would you live in a military town
Like yes
That's a good place to live
You're gonna have gyms
For sure
You're definitely gonna have
Gun ranges
When you say that
Is that when they throw you
Into the alt-right
Adjacent category Stuff like that Probably Yeah You're definitely going to have gun ranges When you say that Is that when they throw you into the alt-right adjacent category?
Stuff like that
Probably
Yeah
I mean the American flag behind me probably contributes to that too
Oh my god how horrible
I know
You're a fucking extremist Joe
What next the constitution?
Decolonizing
That's one of my favorite things
Decolonizing
You've been paying attention to that expression
People want to decolonize certain things
Like what? Oh like hairstyles and shit decolonize yeah yeah you're not yeah there was a guy who got
kicked off of a show is he's a mushroom talking already no no no there's a guy who got kicked
off of a show he was um he was on a show uh i think was in montreal and he had uh he had dreadlocks on and it was this he's apparently
gender fluid which i guess means i dabbled in that yeah you can go back and forth between being a man
and a woman but he does have dreadlocks and they kicked him off the show because he's a white guy
with dreadlocks and he defended their position uh and one of the phrases they used was about
decolonizing specific uh hairstyles and taking them away from white
people and giving them back to the people.
Oh, that's sort of appropriation is what they're accusing you of.
Cultural appropriation.
Yeah.
Hairstyles.
I'd like to go with dreads as a 57-year-old Italian guy.
You'd be weird.
You'd be weird with dreads.
I'd get famous just from that.
Yeah.
That and a white goatee.
Colin Quinn says I should wear a black.
He says I'm going to.
Turtleneck?
Steve Jobs?
A black turtleneck with yellow lightning bolts and call myself Don Corrado.
Why?
Why Don Corrado?
He's just being funny.
I heard he has an amazing new show.
That guy.
I watch him work it out, man.
It's all about politics.
It's about what we're talking about.
About red versus blue.
It's so timely and shit.
And, you know, he's a craftsman.
I watch him.
The Fat Black Pussycat.
I go on sometimes.
I have a show up to his.
What is the Fat Black Pussycat?
You'd fucking love it.
It's right around the corner from the Comedy Cellar.
It's got a real bohemian feel to it people sitting in couches there's lamps it holds about 75 people
carlin was of course quick enough and smart enough to say i'm using this every night to work shit out
and people know you can say look i'm only charging you five dollars because i'm going to be working
new stuff out but you would love it it's kind of a bohemian feel to it.
And they give you the door.
Not that that has anything to do with you.
But it's great.
You do an hour of your own.
I smoke sometimes.
It's so fun.
Again, it's like 75 seats.
It's a little balcony. The fact that you do an hour is very attractive. So New York has some weird little clubs, man. It's so, again, it's like 75 seats. It's a little balcony.
The fact that you can do it in an hour is very attractive.
So New York has some weird little clubs, man.
It's really interesting how New York has it.
Because guys are just hopping around like that.
When I lived in New York, I could never afford to live in the city.
So I lived in New Rochelle.
And when I did gigs, I was like, well, I could work in town and do 10 minutes or 15 minutes.
Or I could just go on the road and do a gig in Connecticut or do a gig in Jersey and make actual money.
And so I always did that.
So even when I lived in New York, I hardly ever worked in New York.
Yeah, I don't as much anymore.
I used to, you know, I used to go to the Comedy Cell every night, but Louie made that place world famous.
Yeah.
And it's not, it used to be a room where you could work shit out and take your time, but it's you know it's a fucking tourist it's packed it's still a great club and i but i feel
like you'll grow that i don't want to do i don't want to go on stage unless i'm doing at least
40 minutes right right you know i mean i gotta get something done uh 15 minutes sets don't that's
why i still do the fat black pussy cat, which is such a great thing.
Look at that.
Nice.
Yeah, that's it.
Nice little spot.
And that looks big.
You know, it always looks bigger from a picture.
It's tiny.
That's from the balcony up there.
So is it like the belly room at the store?
It's smaller than that.
Really?
Oh, yeah.
Way smaller than that.
Way smaller than that. The store is 70 people upstairs. So it's small smaller than that really oh yeah way smaller than that way smaller than that the store is 70 people upstairs so it's basically the same oh the one way up the belly room yeah
yeah not the original room i was thinking original the bell yeah i would say like that yeah yeah
it's you'd fucking love it and people are sitting in couches and shit wow it's it's really cool and
and noam who runs the he couldn't be nicer.
And that's the only one I really do in the city.
Really?
Yeah.
I'm like you.
I'd rather go to Governor's or somewhere else and do some real time.
Governor's is a great club.
Yeah.
The other thing about doing clubs where there's a lot of people on, where you're only doing 15 minutes, the good thing about it is that it's not your crowd.
So you have to make people laugh that are there
just to see comedy.
They're not just to see Nick DiPaolo.
Right.
Like if you go to,
you know how that happens to some guys,
they develop their crowd
and then they kind of lose their edge?
Yes.
Fucking, it's scary, right?
Yes.
Yes.
Last time I saw you on stage,
I walked into Caroline's.
I was just in town for something
and you were on stage.
It was a late show.
And you were doing some fucking show about Katrina, a joke about Katrina that they spelled
help wrong on the roof.
You know how many people die because they couldn't spell help?
Guy looking down from a helicopter says, hep.
Yeah.
I said, if you want hep, just step in that water you're standing.
I was fucking crying laughing.
I'm like, nick is just still
swinging from the hip that's my way that's my favorite joe that that stage is still one of my
favorites in the country i don't do carolines you know the problem with carolines though is when
they reduce the stage down to the size of a fucking shoebox yes but but on you're absolutely
adjustable yeah but on a but like on a t, Wednesday night with like 60, 70 people in there.
Oh, it's amazing.
It is my favorite.
I was so comfortable because I played it so much when I first moved to New York.
I could stay up there for three hours.
I got so much done.
I wrote half specials on that stage by doing like Tuesday nights for a year.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because it's so loose.
That's where you get it done.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You're right.
Like 60 people in the crowd fucking around.
Isn't that not the fucking best?
I did some little place up in Canada, Niagara Falls, the Corner Comedy Club.
I mean, a real hole in the wall.
Shitty tables and, you know, fucking just cheesy.
Had the best time of my life.
Well, when a place is big, then it becomes a show.
And you have to do your act.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You have to work tight. Yeah, yeah. have to do your act. Yeah. You have to work tight.
Yeah.
Which stifles creativity.
Yeah.
That's one of the reasons why Ari, when he does a store, he'll sign up for late night
and he'll get on like a 1245 or some shit like that and there's 20 people there.
And I always say that that's like truth serum.
Because if you do your act in front of 20 people, you know what sucks.
Like there's no confusing what sucks. It's right in front that's right that's right you feel the terribleness of
your material you don't need 250 people tell you suck it takes four couples yeah paying attention
and you just but you feel it like you can kind of song and dance your way through a couple of
hundred people that's right because yeah, you're exactly right.
A barometer.
Always said that.
Give me just double figures.
Give me 15 to 20.
Yes.
That is enough.
Right?
It's great to work out material.
Of course.
It's great to cut out all the horse shit in your act.
Yeah, because if there's only 15 people in the room and seven of them don't like the joke, oh, you fail it.
Yeah.
The 15, if someone's sitting there with their cross arms staring you down like yikes that's where the work gets done yeah yeah i hate i used
to hate playing carolines and this is ironic but this is when i was you know had comedy central
specials and i was kind of hot and i would sell out carolines i would hate it though like two
shows on a saturday night because it's packed and i know i have something called the
asshole quotient for every 20 people in the club is one asshole so if there was like 250 you know
somebody do the math so you got more assholes yeah i always that was my rule so you have to
work fast and tight to keep their attention but right as opposed to taking your time on a tuesday
night in front of 60 people and the real funny comes out yeah when you say shit in between
your proven bits yes there's the gold yeah right yeah it comes out of nowhere it's like it opens up
when you and you put yourself in that frame of mind too when there's only 30 people and uh you
know midnight or something like that you're putting yourself in a different frame there's no pressure
what can now let me ask you that that's it can you do that in front of a full room?
I can't put myself in that mentality.
It's hard.
Because you have to work differently.
I feel like I'm being a pussy and giving in.
But I know damn well if I work as slow as I do in front of 40, 50 people, in front of 250 or 300, somebody's going to get anxious in the audience.
At least that's my, that mentality, like you said, when you show up with 50 people it's almost like
fucking around somebody's living room yeah yeah yeah and i want that feeling in front of 300
people or 400 people it's always different you know we were talking about that last night that
like when you do a large theater it's so much different than doing a club even if you do a
packed club of 500 people then you move to a place that's got 5 000 people it's just a different
feeling it's a totally different feeling you have to do the air quotes act.
You got to do your act.
5,000.
Yeah.
It's weird.
Large numbers are weird.
Yeah.
Timing's different.
You can't hammer the punchlines like you can in a club.
Like in a club, you go punch.
You remember Gavin would hit a punchline after punchline.
Tag, tag, tag, tag.
And those tags would just have everybody roll. Oh, yeah.
Well, if he was doing 10,000 people, those tags would get drowned out in the laughter of all the people around you.
I tried tagging when I did my first Tonight Show.
I tried tagging, you know, and like I said, I got lost.
Other than Burbank.
It's Burbank, people.
Whoever.
But you don't tag like you're in a club you know
yeah i remember learning that lesson tv yeah but you're absolutely right uh gavin was rapid fire
and uh i remember watching him at nicks i came in when i first thought of coming and i step in the
door he's on stage and i'm like is he dying everybody all everybody was doubled over in
the audience i thought he was fucking dying.
All of a sudden, you know, you couldn't hear any laughter.
All of a sudden, a huge roar.
I mean, because he would tag, like you said, tag a joke 11 times.
Yeah.
And people are still dying from the laugh.
They were literally bent over.
Nothing was coming out of them.
Yeah.
I mean, he was shaking the rafters.
They couldn't breathe.
Yeah.
I think we got a chance to see some guys that are probably some of the best comics of all time,
and people don't know.
You know, I think between Sweeney and Gavin and Lenny and those guys that we saw when they were in their prime.
Kenny Rogers.
Yeah, Kenny.
When we were coming up, those guys were in their prime.
And when we were young, we got a chance to see, I think, some of the greatest of all time.
No doubt about it.
But they got stuck.
Well, the guys at Nick's put them on a contract for a while to remember gave them good money and coke yeah they they were making i remember gav telling me
they were making three grand a weekend and not having to leave your city yeah making road money
and and like you said a little some perks on the side um free booze free all that yeah all that
but they all live great well did they ever but yeah
in the long run you know um well in the long run it was a problem but we got to see some crazy
fucking i remember those some of those nights at nick's comedy style but you watch those guys get
i remember sweeney killing so hard you almost wanted to quit comedy i know there's no way i
could do that well i had to follow the fucking guy. Gavin would, in Boston back then, you know, Don Gavin's show, he would be the host.
Remember?
No, Gavin would be the host.
Yeah, he would start off the show.
Yeah.
That's a different thing about Boston, too, right?
That's right.
Like, if you did the Nick DiPaolo show at Nick's Comedy Stop, you would start off the show.
That's right.
And what was crazy, it was great for young comedy, but I had to follow Gavin.
Doing a tight 15.
Jesus.
So it made me, you know, fucking, you had to be able to hold your own.
Yeah.
And they talk at 100 miles an hour, plus they're coked up.
And they're really funny.
They're really funny, and they got heavy Boston accents, and they're big men.
They're like big, imposing people.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
And they would destroy some guy who came in
i remember guys something gold ronnie gold from new york had just done his first tonight show and
shit and he was coming to nicks for the weekend and everybody was dropping in gavin would do 10
chance lang doing all this guitar and literally get like a standing ovation here's ronnie gold
five minutes into it cricket people cricket cricket angry fucking irish kids with their
blonde eyebrows
You fucking suck
Yeah I remember that
That was a tough room
If you were having a bad set
Well they would do it
To the people on purpose
They would do it
To anybody from out of town
That had a big attitude
And a Hollywood resume
They did it to Billy Crystal
They lit Billy Crystal
Up in that room
Well that I understand
Yeah well
You gotta do what you gotta do
They did it to everybody though
Yeah
It was crazy to watch.
Well, yeah.
They were like, these guys, we're as funny as them.
We're going to punish them.
And they would.
You know who they didn't do it to?
Dom Herrera.
Exactly.
Dom Herrera went up there like a fucking champ and just rode the wave.
Yes, he would.
He just kept that wave going.
He's that funny.
Yeah.
I went on Comics Come Home a couple years ago.
No, not the last one.
The one before that.
And Dom had to close the show
and it was a murder's row bobby kelly fucking me billy burr taking the roof off the dump and i'm
like dom has to close this and i he's as funny as anybody but i'm just saying how's he gonna
he goes up there and he did something self-deprecating it gets a nice within a minute and a half he had
them and there was no drop off there was no drop off in response i went home i didn't realize he
was that fucking good oh he's still that good dom herrera has not lost a step brilliant i see him
at the store all the time yeah quit drinking told me quit drinking for two months Very happy for him
Yeah
I saw
He has hands that like shake
He has a nerve issue
Yeah
It's actually
It goes from his shoulder
All the way down to his arm
Yeah
Mushrooms
That'll help him
Or hurt him
That's what he said
Oh shit
He told me that's what
God damn it
Now that you brought it up
Fuck
Dude we better
Honestly better get you out of here
I'll have Look I said before Anytime Joey Come on by I God damn it. Now that you brought it up. Fuck. Dude, we honestly better get you out of here.
Look, I said before, anytime.
Joey.
Come on by.
I would.
I mean, this shows as powerful as anything out there.
TV, radio.
And that flight just makes me mentally ill.
I get it.
I fucking almost started crying halfway out here.
I just got a guy next to me sucking on a straw like a six-year-old.
With ice in his glasses, nothing in it.
It's 110 degrees.
On the plane? Baby behind me screaming like somebody was using the soft spot
on his head for a fucking ashtray.
I can't make this shit up. I almost fucking
I was almost crying. But
you know what? I gotta come out here more than once. Yeah.
Every two years. Yeah. If you'll have me. Come out.
Yeah, and next time, I've got a show
tonight, the improv, but anytime. I know. Anytime you want. Come do shows with me. We'll do next time I've got a show tonight The Improv But anytime
I know
Anytime you want
Come do shows with me
We'll do it
I'll be in traffic
With the rest of the world
Can I plug a couple
Yeah yeah yeah
Tell anybody where you are
My podcast
Just go to nickdip.com
And Monday through Thursday
At 6pm Eastern
It streams live
For free on Monday and Wednesdays
And I just shot a thing called Stickmen in October.
It's about an instructional baseball clinic.
You know Adam Ray, the comedian?
Yeah.
He's in it.
Okay, cool.
Andrew Parisi wrote it.
And Andrew's partner already sold some stuff to Netflix.
So we're hoping.
And it came out killer.
It's called Stickmen.
It's really testosterone driven.
So you'd fucking like it.
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Tonight at the Comedy Palace,
Sunday night,
Ventura Harbor Comedy Club
slash Chinese restaurant.
It's a good spot.
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It's fucking awesome.
And what am I forgetting?
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all that stuff.
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I'm shooting a special
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At Cohoes Hall in New York
I think I'm just gonna
Put that one out there
Use your
What you told me
Just flood the market with it
Not even charge people
Just flood it
Right
Flood it
Get it out there
Because my stand up
Is still my thing
Alright
Love you man
Love you too brother
Love you Joe
Always good to see you
Same here
Nick DiPaolo
Ladies and gentlemen
Woo I'm so nervous Love you, man. Love you, Joe. Always good to see you. Same here. Nick DiPaolo, ladies and gentlemen.
Woo!
I'm so nervous.