The Joe Rogan Experience - #1238 - Brian Redban

Episode Date: February 4, 2019

Brian Redban is a comedian and the founder of the Deathsquad podcast network. Also look for him only "Kill Tony" available on Spotify under "Deathsquad" ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 four three two one hey fella what's going on hey how's it like to get that quick quick fix oh my god it's so amazing how fast it came back to me like the addiction of playing that game over and over again that it's a real problem yeah yeah we've been going crazy jamie's been fucking me up too so today i got lucky that he had to help you get his shit together three early kills i see that he's been fucking me up yeah not nice you don't really play quake right you just it's from playing all night and stuff i tested myself a little bit because i knew this was going to happen eventually so i had to get some practice with some rockets at some point and yeah but it helped it honestly helps to warm up
Starting point is 00:00:44 with quake to play fortnite or play pub g or something like that because the quick whatever it is of aiming you don't do it that much so like when you're doing it three times you've already done it 55 times playing quake just in one round right so like your little interaction you have with someone a shotgun you usually win so quake is so fast paced yeah we're playing quake 4 it's like jesus christ i haven't played that game in maybe 15 years. Me too. I didn't think you were ever going to do it again.
Starting point is 00:01:08 I probably shouldn't. What I noticed is my eyesight sucks now. My eyesight is not nearly as good. It's interesting. From like 42 to 46, there was a big drop off. And at 46, the fucking floor fell out. Now it's like, my eyesight's shit. Gamer glasses.
Starting point is 00:01:25 It takes me a minute when I play games, too. One game isn't enough yet. It probably takes 10 minutes, maybe less, but to just start tracking things, getting your eyes up to speed, the distance you are away from that screen, it takes a little bit of time to get in there. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:01:41 Right now we're just playing it on the local area network, but once you start going online and playing other people, that's when it gets super, super addictive. People that still play that game must be insane. Oh, my God. I don't want to be anywhere near those psychopaths. If they're playing that game, it's because they're really good at it probably. You know?
Starting point is 00:01:58 Like who else? Like young kids aren't buying that game. Back in the day you even had a Joe Rogan level that somebody created. Remember that? Yeah, somebody created a level. That's right. Was that, what game was that? Three or four?
Starting point is 00:02:10 I think it was four. Was it really? Four was 11, though. Didn't it come out in 2011? I think so, yeah. Maybe it was three then. Might have been three. Wasn't Rocket League Arena four?
Starting point is 00:02:20 I don't know. Oh my gosh. I don't remember. I don't remember either. I know there was Rocket Arena for Quake 2 and there was Rocket Arena for Quake 3 because know there was Rocket Arena for Quake 2, and there was Rocket Arena for Quake 3,
Starting point is 00:02:28 because I started with Rocket Arena for Quake 2, which if you played today, you would think the graphics are hilariously bad. But it's a good game. It's a little slower. The fast game was like Quake 1 was really fast, Quake 2 was slower, and then Quake 3 became more like Quake 1,
Starting point is 00:02:45 a combination of Quake 1 and Quake 2. It was pretty fast. Quake 4 was slower, and then Quake 3 became more like Quake 1, a combination of Quake 1 and Quake 2. It was pretty fast. Quake 4 is probably perfect. Miss it. And you tried to play the new Quake, but you didn't like it as much? The only problem is it's fun. We had a good time. The only problem is you have to do everything through their servers, so it takes time.
Starting point is 00:03:01 It's got to load. It's like it's not i'm impatient right my fucking child that's crazy yeah and you you refuse to try any of the other ones right like they're all just new addictions you know waiting to happen i just feel like once if i got one addiction uh this weekend on saturday they had a concert in Fortnite. Yeah, Marshmallow. It was crazy. Yeah. What does that mean?
Starting point is 00:03:27 It's tough to explain, but it's called an event. What they're calling it is like an event. So at two o'clock, everybody showed up at the game and this fucking concert started. It was like- So all the avatars were together
Starting point is 00:03:40 like in one gigantic room? The normal mode, you played it just like normal and then all of a sudden, like two minutes to go go they took everybody's guns away and like you all just sort of congregated around the stage and the music started the show started they started doing interactive things with all the avatars and everything and like 10 minutes later it just it cut off but it turns out it was actually live he he was tweeting about it all day because for promotion and whatnot but people were asking, how'd you do that?
Starting point is 00:04:05 How'd you work it out? His voice was going live to everyone who was playing. It was probably millions of people. Whoa. Yeah. And it was just normal DJ voice stuff, like, hey, jump, guys. Hey. Was it?
Starting point is 00:04:16 He was just like, hey, guys, come on. He wasn't interacting as much as he probably does during a normal set when he's playing to 20,000 people in Vegas or whatever it is. So when he does it, he probably has a really good microphone, too. It's not like the microphone that you talk shit on. Yeah, they had something else set up. When we first started doing Quick, you had a type. That's how goofy it was.
Starting point is 00:04:36 You couldn't talk shit. Now people are talking. They're all in a group together talking shit, right? I have a voice changer now, too. But doesn't the talking shit get in the way, like if you hear people talking, it gets in the way of hearing sounds, like sound cues?
Starting point is 00:04:49 Yes. You tell your teammates to shut the fuck up. You can turn that off also. Oh, you can? Yeah. I like to hear the footsteps coming around the corner and stuff. It makes it scary.
Starting point is 00:04:57 Yeah. It's part of what's scary about Quake is you hear someone running, and you know they're right around the corner. You can control all that. It's all up to you. you can control all that it's all up to you what volume settings and all that kind of it's very very addictive game so we should talk about this uh the jack podcast because everybody got so upset about it and let's clear
Starting point is 00:05:15 up a few things first of all the guy seems to be willing to talk about anything it's not that i didn't want to talk to him about those things it's just he was being, I wouldn't say he's evasive, but he was basically just saying what he knew based on the company policy. I didn't know what else more to ask him. And people felt like I didn't press him hard enough. And he, to his credit, reached out to me and said that he would offer to do another one to ask more questions. That's cool. And I said, that would be awesome. So I said, well, this is the thing that people seem to be upset about.
Starting point is 00:05:49 They seem to be upset about very specific cases where people showed, like, if people were right wing and they were posting things, they were banned. they were banned whereas people who are left-wing or maybe people of different races were allowed to post racist things or more offensive things and even dox people and didn't suffer any consequences for it this is the argument my problem is i don't spend enough time reading this stuff i don't know like this is like when people get banned like anthony coomey is a friend of mine i don't really know why he got banned i don't know what happened i know there was that incident with that that woman that punched him and he wound up getting fired he was drunk and he said a bunch of really stupid shit on in in twitter and then later apologized for it but i don't know if that's what got him far uh kicked off of twitter but he's my friend. So what I'm saying is, all these other guys that have problems, I don't know what the fuck happened, man. I'm busy.
Starting point is 00:06:48 I really don't. I don't know. I don't even know what got Alex Jones kicked off, which is why I asked him, because that was one of the last platforms for Alex Jones, was Twitter. But something got him kicked off. Their take on it was that they never kicked him off before, because he didn't violate
Starting point is 00:07:04 their terms of service. And another thing that's very encouraging that Jack said, and I know it's fun to get mad at things. It's fun to get mad at him. It's fun to get mad at me for it. I get it. I'd probably do the exact same thing. I totally understand it. said was that he believes that the ability to communicate on the internet through Twitter or through these platforms is a basic human right. That's how he looked. Like I said, do you think
Starting point is 00:07:32 of it like a network, like NBC? Like if you're on NBC, they can decide what's on and what's not on. Or do you look at it like a utility? And he specifically said that he looked at it more like that, that he thought it was a basic right. That's very encouraging. He specifically said that he looked at it more like that that he thought it was a basic right that's very encouraging he also said that he would bring on whoever it is in his team that's responsible for these things so we could hear from the actual person who decides who's getting banned and why they're getting banned and what what is what's the decision-making behind all these things. We can go over all of them. I didn't think the podcast would create such a controversy, but that's probably poor prior planning on my part,
Starting point is 00:08:16 because my thought about it was, hey, it's fucking crazy to be running Twitter. It's crazy that this thing exists, that the president uses it as as a platform i want to talk about the dude who created this and what is this like to have this thing evolve to become what it's become because it didn't start out that way it started out like fun shit like uh at brian red bands going to the movies you know what i mean like that's what people used it for and then along the way it became this global method of distributing information where people use it in war zones, man. They use it to tell people where attacks are. They use it for all kinds of crazy shit.
Starting point is 00:08:51 It's a really powerful but strange medium. I didn't think about getting into the weeds with all the very specific people that got banned. I just wanted to find out why they banned people. That was my take on it. I know there's a lot of conservative voices that have never got banned. I just wanted to find out why they banned people. That was my take on it. I know there's a lot of conservative voices that have never been banned. I don't think Stephen Crowder has been banned. I don't think Cernovich
Starting point is 00:09:12 has been banned. Has he been banned? There's a bunch that have not been banned. So it's not like they banned all right-wing voices. So what is it? I don't know what it is. I think it's what he said. People reporting the tweet and then somebody looking at at it going well this does violate our you know policy and maybe you know all these people that that got banned violated the policy somehow you
Starting point is 00:09:36 know it's probably as simple and cut clean as that you know it's it's not that simple right because they make their own policies and it's also not that simple if people are allowed to say similar things that are very racist in in vast generalizations about white people which seems to have been the case in at least a few instances where people reported that people said fucked up things about white people, but there was no repercussions. And, you know, that's where the argument becomes, these people are more oppressed. And so the white people are thought of as the oppressor. So you have this white privilege thing that people like to use now as a reason to decide to like silence someone,
Starting point is 00:10:24 like check your white privilege. That's an interesting thing that's happening so if if there's this genuine movement where people think that it's okay to say things about one race whether you like it or not that's racism and if you're allowing that from any one side and not allowing it from another side it seems hypocritical look it's very distasteful the idea of racism against black people in this country is very distasteful to everybody almost everybody who's not a racist right because of the history of this country because of slavery because of all these things it's a different connotation but if you just allow people to say terrible things about any race it's racism you're you're allowing
Starting point is 00:11:06 a like a predetermined attitude about a race some people have done this they have made generalizations generalizations uh racist statements about white people the the really weird thing that people are throwing around these days is that you can't be racist against white people because racism is about power and influence. It's about using your – that black people are not powerful. The white people are powerful. And the white people are the ones who are oppressed. So it's impossible to be racist against them. That sounds like horseshit to me.
Starting point is 00:11:43 I'm not buying that. That doesn't make any sense it's not beneficial to anybody to generalize this is what we got to get in our head it doesn't matter if you're black or if you're white or if you're whatever the fuck you are it is not beneficial to generalize to take a person out of the group that we we think of as just human individuals you have to be an individual i mean i acknowledge the fact that people look different they have different heritages they have heritages they have different different ancestry they have different occupation there's different parts of the world there's all
Starting point is 00:12:16 these differences but at the end of the day the only way we're all going to get true equality and true kinship and camaraderie as human beings as if we recognize we're just all a human being that's it there are very big differences in the way we look and the things we like that's cool but as soon as you you can say shitty things about white people or white men that leaves everybody who doesn't fit that description guilty in this weird way or presumed guilty because of a racist statement that's all it is it's not good for anybody i get it that it's different than racism against black people in america a country that was built essentially in a lot of ways by slavery there's a war for slavery in this country i mean that is a
Starting point is 00:13:05 crazy reality that it's not your responsibility it's not mine i didn't do it you didn't do it but it's real therefore as a person who's aware of history history the history of this country racism against white people seems different but it still sucks to be racist against racist against black people rather seems different but it still sucks to be racist against black people, rather. Seems different. But it still sucks to be racist against white people. Sucks to be racist against Puerto Ricans. It's not good.
Starting point is 00:13:31 It's not good for anybody. That's what we have to understand about this social media thing. What actually did happen and what is happening and why is it happening? And if it's just some social justice warrior ethic that you're not debating, doesn't seem fair it seems like there should be a conversation about this and i bet they're super reasonable really intelligent people and it's possible they can come to a good place that we can all agree to that is possible i'm not a cynical person i'm sorry i know a lot of you like fuck them they just want this they They just want that. Guess what? They already have it.
Starting point is 00:14:06 They have more money than they could ever spend. And my dealings with Jack as a person, he seems like a very nice guy and a very smart guy and a very empathetic guy. I just think he's in a crazy, unmanageable situation to be running something like Twitter. Yeah, and there's probably people that did something that they should have done in terms of silencing people moving things around it's probably happened it's a weird thing when people have influence over people and there have been videos that have been proven where executives from a bunch of different social media corporations have talked about how to silence certain voices, how to push down certain voices.
Starting point is 00:14:50 This is something that needs to be discussed. Is this a policy as a whole? Is it because you think you're pushing the right message? As soon as someone thinks they're pushing the right message, but they don't have a – there's no debate about that. They just decide our way is the right message. As soon as someone thinks they're pushing the right message, but they don't have a, there's no debate about that. They just decide our way is the right way. And they're pushing this, and there's a radical opposition to that message from half the country. Like, no, no, no, but this is the one that's in control of the narrative.
Starting point is 00:15:19 This is the one that's in control of social media. It's this far left-leaning ideology. And the other part gets pushed aside that's a very bad situation for all of us because there has to be conversation there has to be debate because if there's not it just shores up the differences between two people and they fucking hate each other even more i did not take that into account and i fucked up that's my mistake that is my mistake when i made that podcast but i didn't take it easy on them because i didn't want to discuss those issues i just didn't think
Starting point is 00:15:50 enough of it in advance i'm not as involved in it as other people are i'm aware that there's censorship in social media i'm aware my my ideas going into that conversation were more about how insane this method is for distributing information for the people that have been banned and for the people that were fans of the people that are banned i can understand why they'd be upset at me it has nothing to do with any preconceived notions that i had it's just how the conversation took place it's all it is and if you felt left down by that you didn't feel like it was extensive enough, I'm more than willing to do it and go further into it, and we're going to, and Jack offered it,
Starting point is 00:16:33 and he's going to bring someone else who's going to explain things to us. I think this would be very beneficial for everybody. I also think that there should be a road to redemption. I think if you've got something that's important as Twitter or Facebook or Instagram, if you're not stealing someone's stuff like using copyrighted music or something on an Instagram page where you get banned over and over again for doing it but you keep doing it, if it's not something like that, if it's an ideological difference, if maybe you crossed a line that
Starting point is 00:17:06 they they decided was a line you should be able to work your way back you should there should be a way where you can sign up again i mean like get a new email address i don't mean that man i mean be the same person you should you should be able to be the same person there should be a way well there should be different levels definitely everybody people fuck up man they they fuck up and they make mistakes right and people also grow i mean there's this uh guy that was on sam harris's podcast um christian piccolini i think is his name he was a white supremacist a full-on white supremacist and now he is the exact opposite. He's like this very progressive guy who gives speeches on the dangers of racism and the ideology, how it caught up with him. Now, if he got banned when he was a young man and making terrible decisions and then became a better person, shouldn't we give a guy like that a chance to get back in a platform? Right?
Starting point is 00:18:03 And without making a whole new screen name like maybe it would be and i don't think there's anything wrong with the anonymous model there's some things that are really good about it right like people like jack even talked about this that people can report news stuff and not worry about fear of retribution that they can you know they can whistle blow and not worry about fear of retribution, that they can whistleblow and not worry about fear of retribution. If someone's life is on the line, but they're trying to provide a service to the general public, or they're trying to give people information that might even save lives,
Starting point is 00:18:34 but could put them at risk, especially in third world countries or war-torn countries, that could be a huge problem if you have to post Brian Redband. If this is the only way you can get this information out, you have to post, you know, Brian Redband. If there's the only way you can get this information out, you have to use your whole name. But it'd probably be better off for everybody if people had a way of communicating with each other like it's just person to person. And I think the real problem is when people try to engineer these conversations and this is another conversation about youtube people have said that we're deleting comments on youtube we're not deleting anything we haven't deleted any comments i don't know how it works i
Starting point is 00:19:18 don't read them i'm sure people say mean things have a good time the thumbs up thumbs down thing look we we don't have to have that on there you don't have to have comments on there youtube gives you the option to have comments on and to have the thumbs up thumbs down i'm not taking those off have a good time with it but we're not fucking with that there's something that they're doing that's not it's not i post at 341 and Jamie posts at 342 and this is the line of the comments. It's not like that. They've got their own way of doing it. The question is why does YouTube do it?
Starting point is 00:19:54 What are they trying to do? Are they trying to block out spam? Are they trying to block out hate speech? Are they trying to engineer conversation? Are you talking about comment order? Comments on – no. Com the comments disappear they go away a lot of times it's automatic if somebody flags a comment that will just take the comment away until it's like looked over upon only one person yeah on i think on youtube that that happens quite often probably
Starting point is 00:20:20 as little as one or two people yeah so that is probably what's happening to all you folks that think your comments are getting deleted. No one's deleting shit. Yeah. Look, I'm not attached to what I do in the sense that I'm unwilling to look at what I do wrong. I try to look at everything that I do wrong, including this. So if you were upset at this podcast because you thought somehow or another I sold out because I didn't ask him any more questions, I just asked him the questions I wanted to ask. I understand you have more questions, and I do too.
Starting point is 00:20:52 I have more questions too, especially upon seeing people's reaction to it and upon making myself pay more attention to all these various stories. Matt sent us a list of them some of them are really fucking crazy there's some crazy things people have said and not gotten in trouble for whereas other people said things that really weren't that bad and got in trouble for it why is that that's a good question to ask so we'll we'll concentrate on that we're just going to work out a date so my humblest apologies to all of you don't not trying to let anybody down i always try to do my best that's it and and also here's another clear one no one tells me what to do there's no one there's no secret person behind the scenes if i fuck up it's because of me it's
Starting point is 00:21:37 my fuck up i should have prepared more i should have thought about it more but i didn't realize like how upset people would be i think you did a great i thought it was a great interview and I didn't even think of that. I thought you kind of touched on it a little when you were talking about Alex Jones. And I think that was like, okay, you know, this is what happens. Well, it's a very specific group of people that are upset. It's right wing guys. Right. It's a lot of American flags, a lot of Pepe the frogs.
Starting point is 00:22:00 It's all right people, which look, man, easily could have been me at many points of my life easily especially being a troll online you know if you're working in some fucking job and you're making pepe the frog memes and you're fucking with people i get it i get it it's one of the things i like about the internet like i don't i don't want to be comfortable i'm like i don't i don't want to be comfortable all the time I want a little bit of chaos I like the fact that there's people I was upset
Starting point is 00:22:31 that that Radiolab podcast they took it down where they were fucking with Shia LaBeouf or those guys from 4chan and the way they took it down was they contacted Radiolab and said those guys are white supremacists and they support white supremacy and you just made these people that are awful terrible people that write terrible things
Starting point is 00:22:50 you you you gave them props but the thing about something like 4chan is no you might read some terrible things but you got to realize you're also reading terrible things from anonymous people that are working at their jobs most of the time and they're trying to fuck with people's head and they're trying to get people upset they're they're having a good time fucking with people if you want to take them as that that's like them like giving giving a talk to a dear friend or them giving an affidavit in court well you're missing the whole thing it's entertainment like half of the whole reason why they're doing it is entertainment. They didn't go steal Shia LaBeouf's flag and go right to the camera and go fuck Shia LaBeouf by using coordinates from photographs of the sky where they figured out where the fucking where the constellations lie and then drove around honking their horn so that they could
Starting point is 00:23:39 locate where it was by using the webcam and listening to how close they got to it. I mean, it's fucking genius shit. And it got taken down just by this accusation of them being racist. But the thing about a forum like 4chan or Reddit or anything, you have so many fucking people. You have thousands and thousands and thousands of people. If you just have 10 cunts posting jokes about black people that's all you need to ruin the reputation of thousands of people so for someone to say that everybody
Starting point is 00:24:12 that was like fuck shia labou is some racist and white supremacist that's a cheap way out that's a cheap way out i bet more likely it's some dude who's bored and he's sitting in front of his fucking computer and he works all day and this is where he escapes. He escapes and types and writes things, then checks them later, and then goes back to it and types things and checks. And it keeps him sane in this stupid fucking cubicle. That's a lot of the people. So they pulled that whole amazing podcast down because of that. Look, the Shia LaBeouf thing was ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:24:46 He will not divide us. Come on. Stop. Stop. We're going to chant that everywhere. It's funny what they did. They mocked something. That's their way of mocking it.
Starting point is 00:24:57 Nobody got hurt. They made it out like it was an awful crime they committed on this amazing person who's just trying to change the world. No, no. They pranked shia labou and they said fuck shia labou is that how you say it labouf whatever it is shia labouf i'm sure he's a nice guy too he probably did something silly it's a little silly he will not divide us he went what they did was funny it's a funny reaction i i like that i like that like this is a is an important part of this thing if it wasn't for people like that there would be no podcast now the like the dislike ratio that you see on youtube videos is fascinating right because it's weaponized and they're thinking about trying to ban that now because so many people use
Starting point is 00:25:45 it to fuck with people i hate to say this about you folks but every time we have a chick on here they get fucking tortured the like to dislike right it's it's ruthless except ronica patrick except ron and patrick but it's just it's weaponized it's uh they're just going to dislike it because because it's fun because it's fun because it's fun look down it's also fun to throw a rock in a window it's fun yeah i it's fun. It's also fun to throw a rock at a window. It's fun. Some of them probably didn't even watch the podcast. Thumbs down.
Starting point is 00:26:11 Disliking it gives a little bit of power in the algorithm of deranking it. It thinks you affected something. And people who liked it, there's probably a lot of them that didn't even watch it. It's a button you can press. People are weird. But clearly it shows by the amount of dislike that people moved on it, and they were upset about it.
Starting point is 00:26:29 So, that's basically it. We'll see. There's a lot of cool, interesting questions to ask him. I always thought shadow banning was a real thing, but I think he came out and said that that's not a real thing. But I've seen it in person where I'll type somebody's name in, and usually it's supposed to come up on the, you know, searches, but it doesn't, you know. Well, shadow banning is, if it is a real thing, like that's another one. Like shadow banning for what?
Starting point is 00:26:56 Like if it's not something that is, if you're not doing something that you could get kicked off the platform for, right? You're not kicking them off. You're just pushing them down some weird place. if you're doing that like why are you doing that like what because like uh but what would be the justification from the ones that i have seen there used to even be a website that you could type in somebody's username to see if they're shadow banned so that's kind of interesting but uh like a lot of porn stars are shadow banned because they don't want if you're looking up christina applegate, they don't want Christina Applebottom or something like that. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:27:27 So it's like, I still believe that's a thing, but I'm pretty sure he came out and said it wasn't a real thing. Technically shadow banning Justin Bieber from the trending topics, right? I mean, they had publicly said that. That's not a shadow ban. That's a strategy. Well, no, they were kind of forced into it because justin bieber was so his fans trend so hard they hashtag the shit out of that thing and they just took over the trending it's probably
Starting point is 00:27:51 happening for other equally popular celebrities too like taylor swift's and beyonce yeah yeah you're probably right you're probably right so whatever they're doing at youtube with comments and whatever they're doing with twitter the here's the real conversation, right? The real conversation is, do we want that? Do we want them to curate? Do we want them to decide whose YouTube videos you could subscribe to
Starting point is 00:28:20 and who, I mean, do they unsubscribe people? Is that real or is that a glitch? Yeah, who knows? I don't think they unsubscribe you. that real or is that a glitch yeah who knows i don't think they unsubscribe i don't think so either but people have well let's listen if they're willing to move justin bieber from the number one trending because he number one trends too hard and they think it's ridiculous not to just acknowledge that our culture that there's certain humans in our culture are spending an exorbitant amount of time thinking about that beautiful man right there's a lot but why do we want to lie and pretend that it's certain humans in our culture that are spending an exorbitant amount of time thinking about that beautiful man, right?
Starting point is 00:28:45 There's a lot. But why do we want to lie and pretend that it's not as big? So if they just, I'm not saying they shouldn't, but if they did that, just if they did that, you go, okay, are we through the looking glass now? You can change the data? Like, when do you decide who gets pushed here, who gets pushed there? When do you decide who gets pushed here, who gets pushed there?
Starting point is 00:29:05 When do you decide? YouTube definitely. The trending page on YouTube is 100% controlled by a human. I don't know if they've said that, but there are videos that should be there that aren't based off of the data you see. YouTube's got some weird things going on with it. The videos that they go, you might like type uh thing they they did a you might like to me a couple months ago where it was just videos of a guy towing cars in dallas like
Starting point is 00:29:32 out of their parking lot and he made these funny cute little videos with a little commentary using uh videos from the security cameras anyways i don't know why i liked it but i started watching it and i was like you know this is interesting I tweeted it out, like random video I just got addicted to on YouTube. Everybody, like hundreds of people were like, I just started watching that. YouTube recommended that to me. Like, how did that happen? You know, this little guy with a tow truck company has now pushed on everybody's laps. And now he just went over 100,000 subscribers the other day.
Starting point is 00:30:03 And it was like months ago that he just had like 10. That's the argument some people have made. That's how fast the Paul brothers, they grew so fast on YouTube that some people thought there was something up. They gained like millions of followers within a week or two of being on there. And they were coming from another platform.
Starting point is 00:30:18 Well, it's also, coming from another platform is giant, but it's also, all it really takes is one person deciding that whatever the fuck you did was funny or weird or crazy. coming from another platform is giant but it's also all it really takes is one person deciding that whatever the fuck you did was funny or weird or crazy like that cashew outside girl yeah well there's that girl's you know managed by the same people that own tmz and that's why you see it on tmz every day i was gonna bring up if you watch the fire the fire festival documentary
Starting point is 00:30:40 there's a an explanation of they show how they uh spread the the fuck Jerry guys the marketing team spread that with that orange picture there's a coordinated event over hundreds of different social media accounts for her for the cash me outside for the fire festival yeah fire to catch everybody's because there are a team of people there are agencies that have all these influencer accounts they pay them they don't have to accept the money or accept the offer accept the campaign but oftentimes they do so it's like a talent agency 100 yeah yeah interesting you need to share a new person you need to launch the next the next voice and it's like oh here's a new song here's a new movie it's just a new way to spread bro yeah it's
Starting point is 00:31:20 pretty cool watching how many people are unsubscribing to Fuck Jerry and Fat Jew, though. Yeah, but are they? I looked at it the other day. They have like 14 million. They lost 500,000 in like a weekend. Really? That's a significant amount. Last time I looked, it was 14.7.
Starting point is 00:31:36 Then it was 14.1. I haven't looked today. That's coming from, I think, a video someone shared this week. I think Vic Berger made a video that got spread around. They took his video, right? Maybe. maybe yeah i think that's what he said i think i saw it on vick burger's page there's a few comics i've posted videos like hey uh you know fat juice stole this you know and i tried to reach out they never got back to me he got 10 million what what do you think about this idea though like that's kind of piracy you know like and so instagram's
Starting point is 00:32:05 allowing and twitter's allowing piracy well i think they're allowing these people to post videos because you don't really know where it came from there's no proof right like if you find a meme like how many times you posted a meme i repost whoever sent it to me if someone sends it to me but sometimes i'll just find it in a google search and you've got to figure out who made that meme and if i find their instagram account then i'll try to find it and repost it but some people don't and i haven't in the past like uh i did that one with uh baked alaska got mad at me because there was one with alex jones sitting in a hot tub and it's uh like when your friends are trying to chill and but you have to keep dropping truth
Starting point is 00:32:44 bombs it was hilarious i didn't know it was his i just posted it because someone sent it to me And it's like when your friends are trying to chill, but you have to keep dropping truth bombs. It was hilarious. I didn't know it was his. I just posted it because someone sent it to me. Someone sent it to me in a text message, I think. But those things have a creator, right? And I know, like, Eddie Bravo makes his own. He makes some sometimes. But he'll send some to me or post some online that he finds that are funny, too.
Starting point is 00:33:04 And everybody tries to credit the person who did it, right? But now what they do is they take it and they credit the person, but they didn't for so long. A lot of times they're crediting fake accounts, though. They'll make a fake account. They have put that meme there. I've seen that too. So they're not getting busted in the way you're just explaining.
Starting point is 00:33:22 I've seen that too. Well, what is that about, though? Because that seems like deception. It's just the way around're just explaining. I've seen that too. Well, what is that about though? Because that seems like deception. It's just the way around that backdooring, that qualification of it needs to be on an account. We need to point to somebody. Okay, well, we'll point to this account. But it's not even a real account. Right.
Starting point is 00:33:34 And if they find, like they'll post stuff and then later add the person because the person contacts them. And so they're almost like that's admitting to piracy. Well, isn't though i mean because it's if they just reposted it a lot of folks including me do that yeah but they're making the person they're making money other people are not yeah um that's important i don't make any money off my instagram right they're making millions yeah i just uh i've been offered to post stuff up and i'm not saying that i wouldn't if something was fucking killer and they wanted to give me money i'm greedy i'll take some money but I wouldn't lie about it and uh and I haven't yet
Starting point is 00:34:11 I've never accepted any money yet yeah because it's also I think in Instagram's uh you know law that you have to put that it's an ad if you're making money off of it yeah and so that's another thing that both fuck Jerry and fat Jew are not doing they're not putting an ad if you're making money off of it. Yeah. And so that's another thing that both FuckJerry and FatJew are not doing. They're not putting an ad. I just want to devil's advocate this, though. Is there a place for them, for those accounts? Is there a place to be the retweeter of the memes, to be that guy, to be that account? Isn't that valuable?
Starting point is 00:34:40 Yes. It is a curator position. Yeah, it's kind of valuable. But the question is, if it is valuable and it becomes something almost like redistributing your stand-up, if you're doing a set. Like, if stand-up sets were, you know, something that you just – you could get everywhere and you could just repost it on your page. But then your page became super popular because you have all these people's stand-up sets. You know, like Spotify. Spotify gets ads, right?
Starting point is 00:35:04 But they don't really – they pay the artists a little bit, but mostly they make allify gets ads right but they don't really they pay the artists a little bit but mostly they make all the money yeah i don't know like if it's you you like say sorry later you just do it and say i'm sorry we'll figure it out after the fact or you figure it out business oriented things that have art in them as opposed to art oriented things that start making money they're two very different things so this is not an art thing this is uh they find other people's art and they sell it they're pushing it they create these accounts the accounts get giant people pass it around because they're just finding funny things and then they start profiting but all the people that created all
Starting point is 00:35:41 the intellectual property get zero money, which is weird. I don't remember, but I only learned more about this when Exit for the Gift Shop came out. Isn't that what Andy Warhol sort of did? I don't know, and I don't care. I mean, maybe he did. Maybe he did. But the thing about it is that this is happening right now on the internet. It's a totally different animal.
Starting point is 00:36:02 I mean, Andy Warhol wasn't running around taking exact photo duplicates and putting them on his website for sale like these this is when someone's doing on an instagram page is like you could within seconds take a piece and put it somewhere else it's seconds yeah brian posts something i think it's funny ha ha i go to copy i go to the fucking repost at uh app i put it in there, repost it. It's seconds later. You could do that all day. And if you hire kids, I don't know if he has people working for them, but if these guys do, they hire people for fucking 20 bucks an hour or whatever. And these people just do it all day long.
Starting point is 00:36:39 They just find funny shit all day long. They look for certain hashtags. Meme factories are what they're called. Yeah. And there's some people that have made some funny ones all their own. A lot of people that are just doing that all. I know Dahlia has done a bunch of them. And then there's also one that they do where they steal people's act
Starting point is 00:36:57 and make a meme out of it and then post that on their page. That's where it gets even more slippery because you're talking about like stand-ups acts and you're making money off it. How much are they making off each post? I mean, I don't know, but these are multi-million dollar businesses, right? And the punchline. So now you have this 10-minute joke that everyone knows the punchline because they saw it on Facebook.
Starting point is 00:37:17 It's like spoiler alert. Come on. For sure, if you're still doing that material. If it wasn't on Netflix or a Comedy Central special or something, for sure. That sucks. I guess it's always happened, though, hasn't it? TV shows have been accused of stealing. Oh, they have stolen.
Starting point is 00:37:33 It's happened on... Dude, they did it to Kevin James. I saw it happen. Kevin James was at the... He had a development deal for NBC back in the dizzay, back when we were young pups. Both of us were like 27 or some shit. Maybe he's a little older than that. Actually, that was during the news radio days.
Starting point is 00:37:53 We were probably in our 30s. And he had this development deal, nice development deal. They were paying him a lot of cash, a lot of paper, And they were setting up a sitcom around him. So they had him do a set at a theater in Hollywood. And I was there, and he does this set, and there's all these writers from various sitcoms. And the very next season, one of his best jokes is on an episode of a television show that's very popular. Very popular. Yeah. Yeah. popular. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:25 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And they fucking stole his bit, man. I guess that's where I was going, because that was in the 90s, so we're now 20, 25 years later. The new popular medium is Instagram and social media.
Starting point is 00:38:37 How different is that? Well, it's different because there's accountability now, because now people know that if you wrote a meme and you put it up on your site and then uh fuck jerry comes along and steals your shit and doesn't credit you for it just puts it up there you know what they did unless someone sent it to them and didn't attribute it to you which is possible but it seems much more um likely that what they're doing they were doing on purpose for the longest time and they just they thought that's what you could do on the internet it's a wild west you could just take memes and you could become famous and look that fat jewish guy did it i mean that guy became famous
Starting point is 00:39:13 whether you uh agree with his methods or not it worked he's got his crazy hair he shows you you know like he's this crazy looking guy and he has all these funny memes that somebody else wrote. And they're all up on his Instagram page. And it worked. And people don't like him now. There's a lot of people that don't like him. People get real shitty with him in person. They don't want him doing appearances.
Starting point is 00:39:35 They know what he did. So there's a certain number of people that go, hey, man, you're a thief. Like, this is not cool. Like, what you did is not cool. But then there's certain people that don't care and then there's certain people that think well what he did was just what anybody did back then it was the wild west no one thought about it and once he established that business model and it was effective it was probably very hard for him to slow it down or to attribute
Starting point is 00:39:59 things to people or to admit that he didn't do it for all that amount of time it just bugs me that companies pay these guys knowing that they do this or like as a fat jew he's like see he's like signed with caa who's signed with a bunch of comedians that he probably took you know they're taken from the same basket so it's like it is weird right yeah now if he was going on stage and doing their acts he's been doing appearances right he's got a book he was going on stage and doing their acts. He's been doing appearances, right? He's got a book. He's been on TV shows. Well, I don't know what he's doing. I don't know what he's doing.
Starting point is 00:40:30 Maybe he's showing. But look, he's obviously used it for profit. He's figured out a way to profit. It's weird. He must be weirded out by this fuck Jerry thing, too. Because he must be sitting there going, okay, I'm right here. You guys going to leave me alone? He must be sitting there going, okay, I'm right here.
Starting point is 00:40:44 You guys going to leave me alone? It's, you know, Comedy Central was advertising on the Fuck Jerry page, which is like Jesus, folks. Wow, I didn't know that. Yeah, it was like Jesus, folks. Can I just sit you guys down? Go over a little history of comedy? Well, I mean, mind him and see it.
Starting point is 00:41:05 They didn't learn then either, you know? know well that was while it was happening though yeah they they did learn eventually they let it go eventually but that was also because the ratings had dropped through the floor you know comedy's not fucking easy to make up you know especially like meme kind of comedy that's done by folks that are working in offices meme kind of comedy is some of the funniest fucking comedy on earth and it's done by regular people it's not like a just it's not like most memes are written by high-level satirists that work for the new yorker no they're fucking regular folks who think something's funny, you know? I think what's going to happen is as technology improves, like being able to scan a photo and go,
Starting point is 00:41:49 well, we could tell the first time this was ever put on the internet was from this little girl. She took a photo of it, has all the data in the picture, and it's now used on this meme that's making this much money and this meme that's going to be kind of broken down like any kind of artist. Yeah, I guess. That's the idea for the blockchain getting involved in here
Starting point is 00:42:10 because you can tie that. I guess it can be in the data, in the bits. Now let me ask you this. What if someone uses a picture of your band? Say you have a band. They use a picture of your band, and then they have a funny meme under the picture of your band. Who owns that then that's
Starting point is 00:42:25 what happened like yeah i think beyonce tried to get that picture taken off the internet from her from the super bowl a couple years ago because it was like a bad picture she didn't like how she looked in it that's hilarious yeah how the does that lady take a bad picture and she doesn't she needs to talk to her yeah he goes listen it's good it's not your best but you look great like if that was on tinder you know you wouldn't be on it's like did they who if someone was paying for that meme should beyonce get some of the money or that's that's the question you would have with like a corporation right which should someone be able to grab photos that are out in the public domain make something with it and then profiting that's the way that's there's been a lot of bans, I'm sure.
Starting point is 00:43:05 That's why I said bans, because they're really good at protecting copyright and their logo and shit. If you had the Kiss band logo, you don't think Gene Simmons would come at you? He's coming at you with some lawyers, 100%, right? That's just what he's going to do. But who owns those photos if it's Gene Simmons spitting fire out? I think if you took the photo and the cameras were allowed inside the event you took it that's right but it's not what the case is though most of the photographs are people that are putting they're just putting them up online and someone takes it like say if you gene simmons spitting fire and it has a joke
Starting point is 00:43:39 about eating a hooker's pussy or something like whatever it is like fill it make something funny there but if that's online and that becomes this giant meme that gets all these likes and that's somehow another someone how the fuck do you profit from you from instagram you don't profit from individual posts but those individual posts will boost your signal yeah some posts are profited instagram yeah yeah you have to say add on it right it has to say sponsored post right yeah well legally it's supposed to but i would probably say 90 of them aren't right a lot of people don't right especially if it's like instagram you think you can get away with it oh yeah instagram models talking about tea like this is the best tea yeah yeah it's a
Starting point is 00:44:22 hope that the instagram model is a fucking hilarious position it really is it's a powerful position yeah it's hilarious though it's it's amazing how many of them there are and they make money you know it's smart it's amazing how butts are such a big thing now yeah and like when i was a kid that no one cared about butts it was big butt you're like ew lose some weight yeah we talked about this before, I think. Yeah. I think you and I did. No problem.
Starting point is 00:44:47 It was where I said, Sir Mix-a-Lot changed the game. Everybody's like, what? Oh, you like big butts? Hey, I kind of do too. It's like, for whatever reason, it wasn't even an issue. Like, back then, girls would have giant fake boobs and tiny flat butts, and they were perfect. My grandmother would have millions of instagram model hits fat bottom girls was before that slightly but no one really it didn't catch on
Starting point is 00:45:11 right you make the rocking world go around that's a great goddamn song i didn't see bohemian rhapsody did you did you see it i heard it wasn't that good what the fuck are you guys talking about i heard it was amazing did you yeah i did i'm a giant queen fan though i love them that's my uh my number one cryogenic song when i'm in the cryo chamber is dragon attack because you got to move around when you're in that 240 degrees below zero it's hard to just sit still do a little dancing in there i'd read uh uh he did a ramey malik i think is the the actor's name that played him freddie mercury he did a really good Malek, I think is the actor's name that played him, Freddie Mercury. He did a really good job.
Starting point is 00:45:47 But before it happened, Sacha Baron Cohen was sort of in talks for it. But he wanted to take the character in a different direction that no one was really comfortable with. See, I would have rather have seen that. No, man. What would he have done? What does that mean? I don't know. See, that's a weird thing, man.
Starting point is 00:46:02 You can't. Could have just been said, too, to get spicy talk. but you can't just add stuff my wife yeah you can't just it's not an art piece like bohemian rhapsody although it is an art piece it's a documentary of a guy's life like in some ways you're documenting it right like it's supposed to be his life you can't make up things that never really happened or i forget what but it's like like it's supposed to be his life you can't make up things that never really happened or i forget what but it's like a it's the difference between like a biopic and an actual biography or a documentary like well what is the difference you're making a hollywood movie right but what is the difference in terms of the story creative i think creative control like like
Starting point is 00:46:40 being creative with something like we know this event happened and this event happened the day before and in the middle what would happen where one one is knowing only the facts the fox catcher versus a documentary about mark schultz like there are parts in there that you specifically know yes are were fucked with for no reason artistic sake well not just the parts that i know but i didn't even talk to mark about the movie um but there was a bunch of parts that i think he was furious about where it made it look like they were doing blow and maybe doing some gay stuff. It looked, it was, there was a lot of weird scenes
Starting point is 00:47:11 that things were implied or just seemed odd. Like, how do you know this happened unless Mark told you? And so, and Mark was furious at the end after it was released. And then on top of that, like the big one was that they changed his opponent when he fought in the UFC. They gave him a Russian guy when he, in fact, fought Big Daddy Goodrich, who's a legend. Big Daddy Goodrich is an MMA legend.
Starting point is 00:47:35 He was a pioneer. He was in the early UFCs. The giant, yoked, black dude with the gi. I mean, he would fight with the gi on. He has one of the most brutal knockouts in the history of the sport where he fought this wrestler paul herrera and paul took him down and they got into a position where uh big daddy goodrich was lying on him sideways and he elbowed him in the face like 10 times in the course of like three seconds and it's so horrific you're watching his head just bounce off before they stop the fight it's fucking brutal like one of the most brutal
Starting point is 00:48:12 kails you'll ever see in your life so this guy wasn't just a regular guy like you just substitute him out and make the guy's name tom instead of bob no No, it was Big Daddy Goodrich. That's who Mark Schultz fought when he fought in the UFC. Watch this. Watch this. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. I mean, that guy is fucking out. And his arms are trapped and his legs are trapped. Big Daddy's got him in like a crucifix position.
Starting point is 00:48:42 And it's from Paul trying to take him down. I mean, that was... So that guy, Big Daddy Goodrich, he's a famous fighter. It's not like they took some nobody and removed him from the movie and changed the name of someone where it didn't really matter. It was a historical event in MMA. That's the reason, you think? No one knows?
Starting point is 00:49:05 Some crazy producer. I think you should fight a Russian guy because this is, we're in the Cold War again, baby. I don't know you. Fuck Putin. I don't know how you feel about politics. You know, some producer just wanted to jizz on the soup. Some writer just wanted to cup his own balls and squirt one off into the fucking stew. That's probably what happened.
Starting point is 00:49:23 Yeah, I don't know. The screenplay to make it to watch better who knows the only other thing that makes sense is maybe they would have had to pay daddy goodrich right and they didn't want to pay him maybe i don't know that makes sense that makes sense i mean like mike tyson you know he uh he had that video game a long time ago with nintendo and they had to pay him to use mike t's punch out. And then after a couple years, he was like, I'm done with this. So then it was just called punch out. It wasn't even Mike Tyson in the game anymore.
Starting point is 00:49:51 They had to take it off. Some new dude. Yeah. Have you done the VR boxing game yet? I haven't done the VR boxing game, but it looks cool. Like the Rocky one, is that what it is? There's a whole bunch of them. Yeah, there's a whole bunch of them.
Starting point is 00:50:03 Dude, they're amazing. Yeah. It's great. Like a regular boxing game is that what it is? There's a whole bunch of them. Yeah, there's a whole bunch of them. Dude, they're amazing. Yeah. It's crazy. Like a regular boxing game you're playing on TV is so stupid. I mean, they're fun. But in comparison to a VR game, in a VR game, you're boxing. Right. You see your hands in front of you.
Starting point is 00:50:16 The guy's throwing jabs. You're slipping. You're like standing in front of him. You can catch punches with your hands. You can throw shots to the body. It's crazy. You get tired doing it. Like you could really get a workout the body. It's crazy. You get tired doing it. Like, you could really get a workout doing it.
Starting point is 00:50:27 It's amazing. This is it right here. Like, this is what you would see. This is the new Rocky one they just updated. Oh, Jesus! Yeah, this is the one I thought. Oh! Clubber Lang!
Starting point is 00:50:34 Mr. T is in it. Or is it just random guy with mohawk? Well, that's Clubber Lang. But look how jacked everybody is. Can you imagine if people were really that jacked? Wow. I mean, this is... So, what is that? Drago were really that jacked. Wow. I mean, this is,
Starting point is 00:50:46 so what is that, Drago? And he's fighting, there's Drago versus Rocky. Yeah, but we can't see, you want to see what it looks like
Starting point is 00:50:52 from your eyes. And this is a, that's a regular video game or that is a virtual reality? That's the VR game. This is just the teaser they showed, I guess.
Starting point is 00:51:01 I was looking for the updated. Yeah, you want to see what it looks like when you've got those gloves in front of you. Have you tried VR pool yet? No. No.
Starting point is 00:51:09 I like regular pool. VR is so great. I love it. I just need to get it out of my living room. It's just too much for my living room. There's things you couldn't do with VR pool that you need to understand if you're actually playing pool. With real pool, you need friction.
Starting point is 00:51:25 Wow, this looks great. It's crazy. Look how good that looks. A little bit of haptic feedback for this to get maybe the next step. Look how he's using his hands to block, too. It's crazy. The thing is, man, when someone's swinging on you, when this fake person in front of you is swinging, it's nerve-wracking.
Starting point is 00:51:44 You think you're going to get hit, and when you do get hit and you see red or you see white rather look you just KO'd him it's funny watching the guy it's pretty amazing how VR really gets immersive like were you like the what is it Resident Evil video game I mean that's scary as fuck you really think zombies are coming after you yeah you really do really do. You know, that game, the thing about that game, though, this boxing thing does not necessarily reward perfect technique. You could kind of just do this and just do that. So you'd have to, like, if you wanted to use it as a workout, you'd have to actually be disciplined and use good technique.
Starting point is 00:52:18 What you'd probably do is put gloves on, put some Velcro gloves on, and put the little fucking hand thing in the glove close to there but in the next year or two you could just duct tape it year or two it'll be in the glove yeah itself yeah there's actually a i think it's called the knuckle controller is the next version of the vive controller it fits around your hand like a glove it's not it doesn't it just goes around your knuckles kind of right if you don't have to grab sort of in the same way. Right. Yeah. Because when you have your hands this way, like with thumbs up, thumbs up shows the gloves like this on the screen for some strange reason.
Starting point is 00:52:55 So when you're throwing punches, it doesn't look right. They need to change that. Because it's like they want you to just do this. But that's freaking me out. Yeah But when you're actually doing it though If it looked like your hands in the same position as your hands It would be a worthwhile way to learn like a guy like Freddie Roach could literally do a game where he showed you All right
Starting point is 00:53:18 I want to see the jab and they're like right here right here All right pop and then here comes the hook duck under and then we'll go to the body, go to the head. And you could do that and do drills with the guy, and actually, you could pick up real skills in a VR game, especially with boxing. Boxing particularly. Kickboxing, maybe a little less because you're moving your legs, you're not just moving your hands. Like, you'd have to have some sort of sensors on your legs so I could know what you're doing to make sure you're not showing bad technique. Like your knee might be down or you might be doing something funky.
Starting point is 00:53:48 But if you have boxing, those two things are just like gloves. All you need to learn is all the other things. You need to learn how to punch and how to move around. But you can effectively with just holding on to those things, you're staying in the same position that you would be if you were really boxing. And you can move around the ring, too. Like, it's an area like the size of this desk, maybe like a little bit more. So it's not like you're in one place
Starting point is 00:54:12 and you don't have footwork. You could actually develop footwork, too. So they could have, like, Vasily Lomachenko doing, like, footwork drills where you would learn on a virtual reality thing where to step. That'd be fucking badass. All that stuff, you could learn some shit from those things i like how the the vr is going like there's amusement park or uh buildings now kind of like chuck e cheese where it's just vr
Starting point is 00:54:36 rides now where he's like oh you're parachuting or you're on a roller coaster and stuff i like how they're doing that now a lot like a lot of malls have that now yeah yeah i've done those i've done the like little spaceship ones too when you roll a dune buggy around on the surface of the moon have you done the star wars one in vegas yet i guess you actually have like five people in your group that you can see in the game and there's like uh you know have you played they have at the glendale galleria they do yeah dude the dopest one they have is that the disneyland the same disneyland village but the disneyland village one is there's a start star wars one and then there's also a wreck it ralph one the wreck it ralph one is fucking amazing
Starting point is 00:55:16 is the same company yeah the void is yeah that's it same place so they have uh the star wars one sometimes so they'll have like one game set up for like a couple of weeks and then they'll have the other game. Dude, we went to Disneyland and that was the dopest thing at Disneyland. Really? Yes, by far. It's the future.
Starting point is 00:55:32 It's fucking amazing. Dude, you wear this suit, okay? So you have this vest on so you're feeling when you get hit. You feel it in your chest. You feel heat. They have places where you walk through and it's like lava below you. You feel heat. No way. The Star Wars one, when you're getting shot, you feel it in your chest. You feel heat. They have places where you walk through and it's like lava below you.
Starting point is 00:55:45 You feel heat. No way. The Star Wars one, when you're getting shot, you feel it in your chest. No shit. You pick a gun up off the wall and you've got like stormtrooper arms. You see you're holding the gun in front of you. It's crazy. That's awesome.
Starting point is 00:55:56 I didn't know that was in Glendale. Dude, they're getting so good. You still are super aware that you're in a game. Right. For now. still you still are super aware that you're in a game right for now but this you know go from pong to fucking what what's the best red dead redemption that's probably the best graphics i mean fucking insane graphics that's what is that 30 years 30 years they went to that these virtual reality games 10 years from now are going to be insane no one's going to want to be in regular life
Starting point is 00:56:24 regular life's going to suck yeah there's not going to be a disney one's going to want to be in regular life. Regular life's going to suck. Yeah, there's not going to be a Disneyland or a Disney World anymore. It's just going to be VR. It'll still be there, but you'll be able to get on every ride. I haven't watched this myself yet, but the NBA makes viewing in VR available now.
Starting point is 00:56:40 Whoa, the whole game? It's not every game, but it's like once a week they have a particular game you can log in and watch they could they change the cameras a little bit i don't think it's perfect yet holy it's very cool though dude how about watching this on the floor yeah you're on the floor and they'll but they'll move you around so you can see you're in the footage too i think they have a separate announcing team so they're they're talking about what you're seeing versus like listening to the normal tv oh wow it's quite not there yet we filmed a couple episodes of kill tony in vr and we had some of the top of the line cameras for it and it still wasn't there yet it
Starting point is 00:57:15 was more hassle than it was worth this seems like something that would be fucking amazing for the ufc though oh yeah i mean this would be amazing. You basically have your view. Yeah. Except the cage. The cage would be in the way but there's got to be a way that they could film through the cage. If they just had
Starting point is 00:57:32 a camera in a reinforced position where it was far enough back behind foam that there's no way it could interfere if someone crashed into it but yet close enough that it could see through an actual hole,
Starting point is 00:57:48 you could get the entire octagon if you did it with several different ones of those. They had it at least. It was ground level. I think they called it the Phantom Cam, but maybe it had a different name. And it was VR? It wasn't VR, no. The UFC's use it a few times. They always try out things.
Starting point is 00:58:07 They're very experimental. They don't always show everything they're trying out though but problem with it be cool to try it one time ideally you'd want it right in the middle like not above or two below and it would have to have camp because it has cameras all around it so you know that would that's hard to do with the cameras i guess uh without getting in the way of everything yeah you would have to uh you'd have to find a good spot for it put it on uh bruce buffer's head and let him just go to town well they used to do that with pride pride used to have like they would wear glasses with like uh cameras next to the glasses and you'd get the referee vision yeah it was crazy that's kind of cool separating fighters and breaking it up and waving the fight off yeah that's kind of cool yeah it's pretty badass yeah
Starting point is 00:58:56 it's weird here it is it's uh i guess it's this little teeny marshall cam is what it's called pov cam that shit's pointed at me man sometimes yeah POV cam. That shit's pointed at me, man. That one? Yeah, there's one like that that's pointed at me. Oh, yeah, I guess you're right. I have seen that there. Yeah, they use that sometimes when we go crazy, when we jump up if a fight's happening. I didn't know that's what they did it for
Starting point is 00:59:19 until one day I saw it online. I go, oh, that makes sense. That's a smart thing to do because sometimes we do get animated. There's been several fights where me, Anik, and DC, or Dominic Cruz, we're all standing up. Like Amanda Nunes. When Amanda Nunes knocked out Chris Iborg,
Starting point is 00:59:36 we were like, what the fuck? Your whole body's like, Jesus! What the fuck did I just see? Sometimes you just can't sit down. Your body's just likeesus what the fuck did i just see sometimes you just can't sit down you just your body's just like god damn it it just goes you don't you're not even trying to control it you just let it go when you see somebody do something fucking insane like there's some wild crazy francis ingano knocking out alistair ovareem type punch yeah yeah it's me and dominic and john annick and annex up and i'm leaning back it's a crazy job man
Starting point is 01:00:14 it's a crazy job so that was the the moment dc1 and you see the one below it see that go back to that see that one below it where i'm staring at the camera in the upper right? No, that one there? That was a video taken by John Wayne Parr. John Wayne Parr, who is a multiple-time world Muay Thai champion, and a friend of mine, a great guy who lives in Australia, was there at the fights in Australia when Holly Holm knocked out Ronda Rousey. And he filmed Holly Holm head-kicking Ronda Rousey
Starting point is 01:00:45 and then turns to me and I turn to him and I was like, what the fuck just happened? I was like, whoa, whoa. But when you see it in that moment, when you see something that's that fucking nuts in that moment, you're like, I can't even believe what I saw. That was me.
Starting point is 01:01:11 I looked at him and he looked at me and we're like whoa dude that was crazy there's no sport like that some sports just you know they just have this uh this moment where everybody gets a jolt of a drug. You know? Everybody just gets this ahhh! You mean that didn't happen last night at the Super Bowl for you? I left before it ended. I was at a friend's party. Went to a Super Bowl party. It was fun. The lowest viewed one in the last 10 years.
Starting point is 01:01:39 Are you serious? It's because they knew that that handsome man was going to take his shirt off. What's his name? Adam Levine. This beautiful man. He doesn't have nipples. Everyone's talking about his nipples.
Starting point is 01:01:49 No, he has nice brown nipples, but then you're like Janet Jackson. Yeah, right. That's true. That went crazy. Why is he allowed to show his nipples? He showed both. This is bullshit. Sex is bullshit.
Starting point is 01:01:59 And his dick root. Oh, my God. He had dick root showing? That is bullshit. He just wanted everybody to know he's got beautiful tattoos. I love that. And a fairly good body. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:10 Doesn't look like he does a lot of squats, though, right? That's what's interesting. He's around, like, the greatest super athletes in the known universe. Actually, he looks pretty good right there. For today, he was. He looks pretty good. Look at those random tattoos. What do you mean, for today, he was?
Starting point is 01:02:24 I mean, he's not always around the greatest super athletes. Right. No, no. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, he looks pretty good. He looks like he's in good shape. Happy to take his shirt off with his California stomach tattoo. But the point being, that guy's around freaks.
Starting point is 01:02:39 He's around 6'5", 290-pound super athletes who could jump over his fucking head. They literally could run through a hundred of him like they were paper walls. Just rawr! That's what he's around. He's around the fucking Super Bowl. The greatest physical specimens in the known universe. And he takes his shirt off. Like, hey, bitches bitches i'm here too
Starting point is 01:03:05 they had an event set up over the weekend uh so people could test their 40 speed uh up against other nfl times whatever they had like that's hilarious hussein bolt did it in his in his shoes like they said street shoes whatever but he didn't have cleats on he tied the fastest ever nfl 40 yeah he's probably did it with a full stomach. He probably just ate, drank a couple of beers. Fuck it. I'll show these bitches what's up. Yeah, it's just, it was weird. Like, watching on TV, this dude with his shirt off, you know, like, oh, this is a different thing now. Now this is like a sexy concert. Yeah. Before it was like a football game. That's what I think he's getting shit for because he didn't need to take his shirt off, right? You know, he had his
Starting point is 01:03:44 shirt on and then like after the second song, he's like, you know what didn't need to take his shirt off, right? You know, he had his shirt on and then like after the second song, he's like, you know what? Let's get sexy in the Super Bowl. Did he say that? No, no, but I mean, why else would he
Starting point is 01:03:51 take off his shirt? I mean... At least we can make a hashtag. Hashtag sexy in the Super Bowl. Let's get sexy up in this bitch. Well, he's a sexy man. Don't be hating. Beautiful man.
Starting point is 01:04:03 Yeah, I mean, but that's the whole thing. Your audience is a bunch of guys. Started with a jacket on. Started with a jacket on. Well, it was cold out at first, but then he started to warm up with sweat. Yeah. Never trust white men with necklaces.
Starting point is 01:04:16 That's my message. More than one. No, he's got the little necklaces and the bracelets for the falcons to land on. Oh, wait a minute. Those are spiritual necklaces. If you have wooden beads, for whatever reason, that makes you makes you spiritual is that hemp or gold i can't even tell you're allowed to wear wooden necklaces because like people go oh you're like really into organic stuff you're really into macro but that's gold is that yeah that's good gold yeah that's like the other one was just weird lighting i i can't wear necklaces, man. It bugs me.
Starting point is 01:04:45 Did you ever wear necklaces? I've worn necklaces, sure. Yeah. It's never been a staple. But it's a weird thing. First of all, if it's big enough, it's like this Target, right? If you have like a big old gold necklace, people want to steal it. Right.
Starting point is 01:05:00 There's a lot of necklace snatchers out there, Brian. I don't know if you know that. Yeah. But then the other thing is What are you doing? What are you doing with that big old shiny thing around your neck? What are you doing? What are you a chick? I remember in the 90's chokers were a thing
Starting point is 01:05:13 And I used to wear a choker How gross is that? Like a dog choker? Just a really tight necklace Hemp necklaces Oh yeah those with the little bead The bead at the bottom. The bead's critical.
Starting point is 01:05:26 Gotta have the bead. Yeah. A multicolored bead. Make it look really cool. Yeah, like, it's weird. Some guys will wear, like, little anklets with, like, beads. And they tie them off, and they'll walk around barefoot. And you're like, okay.
Starting point is 01:05:42 Hmm. Well, it's kind of like that look that you know job look where you have like the really tight like your pants go up so you can see your socks you know you show a little leg you know why they do that why sneakers those guys show off the sneakers yep full that's what shop told me do you do that jamie yeah that's what my my pants have that actually oh my god you do why why that's how the pants are made uh that's? That's how the pants are made. That's funny. That's how the pants are made?
Starting point is 01:06:08 That's why you don't buy those pants, man. Then you're not buying pants in the last four years. What lady store do you buy? Do you buy it at Coach? Do you buy those pants at Nike.com? Oh gosh. That's hilarious. You don't do that, do you? No, how dare you?
Starting point is 01:06:20 How dare you? I have a pair of very comfortable Under Armour running shoes on. How are those Very comfortable Those Yeezys Your new shoes the other day They're a little too tight for me Okay
Starting point is 01:06:29 They bind My feet a tad bit When I got to the store I had to swap them out for I had a pair of Converse All Stars Which are my go to You got Yeezys right
Starting point is 01:06:38 Jamie gave me a pair of Yeezys About a year ago And you just wore them I wore them The other day You just undead socked them You just keeping them on ice Undead socked them Is that what keeping them on ice for a while.
Starting point is 01:06:45 Undead socked them. Is that what it's called? Dead stock. Dead stock. Dead stock. Oh, do you know what dead naming is? Do you know what dead naming is? Is that a shoe thing?
Starting point is 01:06:52 No. No. It's a new thing that's illegal on Twitter. This is something I wish I knew. I didn't know until after the podcast, but dead naming is it's banned. So say if you decide tomorrow to become a woman and you're like i'm not no longer brian i'm brianina i'd be like brianna that's what you're if you thought of course okay
Starting point is 01:07:12 so i'd be like uh okay brianna but you're still a man and then boom that's dead naming you can't call someone something other than their preferred gender so like if they identify as a woman but they're biologically male you're not allowed to say they're biologically male wow you're not allowed to call them a man because that's dead naming you're not allowed to call them like you couldn't call caitlin jenner bruce if you called her bruce you would be dead naming her but that's just like that's not illegal or i mean like from twitter oh it's a twitter rule it is a new please pull that up i did not know this i did not know this i searched it it's been around for a while but i'm checking the twitter that's kind of weird dead naming has been banned
Starting point is 01:08:01 for a while or the term term has been around I just found out about the term maybe a couple weeks ago. I'd heard the term for the first time. Somebody wrote dead naming. And I was like, what is that? And then I had to look it up. It's so ridiculous. All the new rules we have to deal with. Dude, there's a fucking article.
Starting point is 01:08:19 There's an article that I was reading. Go ahead. I'm looking right at their terms of service. It's directly word for word in there. Okay. Where does it say that okay dead naming of transgender individuals repeated or non-consensual slurs epithets racist and sexist tropes or other content that degrade someone okay well hold on a second like what does degrade someone so if you if you contact me and say hey bro you're fucking short you're not funny that's degrading yeah like is that not allowed that's crazy you have to you have to have that be allowed we prohibit targeting individuals with repeated slurs tropes or other content that
Starting point is 01:09:05 it tends to dehumanize degrade or reinforce negative or harmful stereotypes about a protected category see that's where it comes from like white people are not protected this includes targeted misgendering or dead naming of transgender individuals I love how they just went with that. This is a giant corporation and they just went with some new word that's only been around for like a month. How long has dead naming been around for? The Urban Dictionary had it in there from 2014.
Starting point is 01:09:35 Unbelievable. Never even heard that before. They're on the ball. Tell you that. Those urbans, they stay ahead. Twitter still allows goat sees and all the porn you want, which is interesting to me. Yeah, well, porn's consensual. I love that. It's just hilarious.
Starting point is 01:09:50 I love that that's all. I do love the chaos of it all. I love the fact that they're trying to sort everything out. I just think the whole thing is crazy. It's so bizarre that they're trying to, in that sense, with that. That's so bizarre that like they're trying to in that sense with that like that's so vague to dehumanize or degrade well every joke about someone every joke about trump every single joke about trump that every single comedian and or commentator and or person makes is in some way degrading when you talk about how fucking stupid he is like rob
Starting point is 01:10:26 reiner had a joke about him called him a piece of shit or called him a piece of crap yesterday and said he couldn't believe how fucking dumb he is trump talking about hillary though he's doing it to hillary 100 100 100 so that's so vague yeah that so vague. And dead naming is not a real word. So like, how are they using fake words in this shit? I can't think they're trying to say. It is now. It is a real, real word. Yeah. Man, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:10:55 If your name used to be Bruce and you changed it to Caitlin, I can't say that. That seems bananas. That seems bananas yeah that seems bananas so like if you're fucking with somebody say somebody became a woman and is still an asshole i you can't call him mike you know hey mike look i i'm sure you're bitter about this whole changing your sex thing you can't bring that up but uh you're still an annoying guy you just don't have your dick anymore bye like if someone says that they can't say that why can't they say that they should that's to me stupid well well i'm not saying but that's hurtful i guess to transgender people i guess and that's can can be considered hate right speech or hate whatever but only but only when it comes to like gender right like if you could
Starting point is 01:11:47 you could tell someone hey you're short and fat and stupid and they don't no one cares true right you could say you uh you're ugly as fuck your nose is disgusting what happens there is that the same what is that the same thing it might be if you do it repeatedly right if you just do it once you just throw one out there probably okay probably one time you could shit on someone's looks get one but it's like what like deciding what you can and shit on someone for like what i'm saying is if someone's an asshole and they're like here's a perfect one that woman who used to be a man she's a transgender woman who was in a store screaming at this kid behind the counter that it's ma'am it's ma'am this is the perfect example of that the guy was terrified she's fucking huge and she used to be a guy and clearly still looks like a guy and she's
Starting point is 01:12:40 saying it's fucking ma'am like you know she knocked some shit over she got violent in the store yeah in that situation you you're telling me that it's not cool to say how about you settle the fuck down because you look like a guy you're acting like a violent guy and you used to be a guy pardon me if i think you're still a fucking guy that's dead naming but that's a good thing to say in that particular instance so without nuance right without context it's saying you can't say anything to degrade someone well clearly that would degrade that guy but if that guy was saying fuck that kid he did it on purpose on twitter you're saying someone can't respond hey man i'm sure you're really upset that you got your dick removed and you still look like a guy.
Starting point is 01:13:26 But fuck you. Like, why can't someone say that? Because that's people communicating how they feel about you being a dick. Like, if you start out being a dick and then they communicate about you being a dick by being a dick as well, are we banning this? They're probably just covering their butts. It's probably not, you know, like kind of like Jamie said. It's dangerous in a lot of ways. It's dangerous to control people's thoughts and behavior.
Starting point is 01:13:48 Because who are you to say? And when does it end? You know, it just keeps going and going and going and going. It gets very slippery when you have one group that thinks it's right and they're trying to control another group that thinks they're right. Man, that is, it seems so simple when you're just talking about dead naming transgender people or not degrading people based on their looks or their ethnicity or their this or their that but what you're doing is you're trying to dictate how humans communicate with each other and people don't like it when you tell them what to do the problem with
Starting point is 01:14:19 telling people what to do is they want to do the exact opposite this is one of the first things you realize when you have kids like oh they don't want to listen to me like i gotta figure out a way to sneak information into them you know or you gotta you gotta figure out a way to not be too bossy people don't want someone telling them what to do this is what i missed when i was edited handed into that conversation i missed how other people looked at that guy and what he stands for. I don't think it's correct. I think it's way more complicated. I think it's an insane business to run. I don't
Starting point is 01:14:51 think he really knew why Alex Jones was banned or why anybody else was banned. I don't think he really knew. I think he's dealing with a giant corporation and he's a young guy and he wears sandals. Wait, wait. What kind of sandals?
Starting point is 01:15:06 Some weird ones. Like that. Nice guy. Leave him alone, bro. Let's just choose. What were you saying? He runs a couple different companies. He's not sitting at Twitter's offices every day.
Starting point is 01:15:14 Oh, that's another thing that Alex Jones brought up today that he sponsors the podcast through the Cash app which he also runs. It's 100% true. But I would have and I think we talked about it on the podcast. We even talked about the
Starting point is 01:15:27 Cash app being a sponsor and about how it's helped Justin Renz fight for the Forgotten Charity. So Alex Jones erroneously said that I didn't mention it. So we did mention it. It's worth mentioning. And Alex Jones is having to respond to people that want to know if I've seen what Alex Jones has said about me lately is one of the weirder things that I've dealt with. Because first of all, I've always had good dealings with Alex in person, person to person. But he's obviously in a world of shit right now. There's a lot going on with him with this Sandy Hook stuff.
Starting point is 01:16:10 And he wasn't entirely honest with me about what he had said about Sandy Hook. Maybe he didn't remember. Maybe he was trying to phrase it in a way other than the way I interpreted it when I saw the videos. But there's a Media Matters video that shows all the time where he said that Sandy Hook was fake. This is very complicated to me. This is one of the reasons why I struggled with bringing him back on the podcast. That's very complicated. That is
Starting point is 01:16:31 even though I'm I've known the guy since 1998 and if I'm around him, I'd say that's my friend Alex Jones. He's a friend. He obviously did something fucked up. And the parents that had to deal with what he did, there's parents that had to deal with people calling them a crisis actor. They had to deal with people harassing them at the courthouse and harassing them if they met them
Starting point is 01:16:59 in public because they were saying that they were lying about their kids being killed. So not only are their kids being killed, but they have to deal with someone harassing them and saying you're a liar and you're an actor it's insanity and i wouldn't i would think about it differently i would definitely think about differently if i wasn't friends with alex but i would also think about it differently if he hadn't made shit up about me. He said that I was told to stop talking about conspiracies or they threaten my family. That's 100% horseshit. And he has my phone number. He could have called me.
Starting point is 01:17:35 I called him after I heard about it. He told me that someone told him that I talked to the person who told him that. I'm like, this is fucking bananas. Like, you're out of your mind. Call me. This is fucking bananas. Like, you're out of your mind. Call me. This is so stupid. You think I'm not talking about whatever, fill in the blank, whatever ridiculous conspiracy, the Rothschilds,
Starting point is 01:17:53 the fucking Rockefellers, whatever it is. I'm not talking about that because the government threatened my family. That is fucking wrong. It's ridiculous. And now you put it out there. So Alex Jones went on on afterwards and he apologized and corrected it then recently because i haven't had him on the podcast he decided to start saying that i work for the cia and that i'm uh george soro talking points which i don't even know what
Starting point is 01:18:18 these fucking talking points are talking points about him in specific not talking to anybody no one's giving me talking points not george soros that's not what eddie bravo has been saying he got good he got good uh information through joey doesn't even say that so stop joey diaz did fuck with eddie for a while though but but the point being the point being alex if you're out there I still like you as a person If I saw you I'd still give you a hug But you're making shit up And this is not helping Anybody wants to defend you
Starting point is 01:18:53 It's not helping me as a person Talk about the good qualities in you And you know These things that you're saying are made up You're making up the fact that I'm in the CIA You're making up for the fact that The in the CIA. You're making up for the fact that the Hollywood insiders have given me information and tell me what to say. That's not true. You know it's not true. You know me. I don't have time to be a CIA insider. I can't take
Starting point is 01:19:16 on another job. And between doing stand-up and podcasts and UFC commentator and running a family, I can't do it. I wouldn't do it. I'm not interested. I'd rather stop doing everything than work for any government organization. No one's ever approached me. No one's ever approached anybody I've ever heard of. I don't even know if that really happens. I don't know if that's a real thing. The thing is, they always say is that the CIA would talk to the people in Hollywood and tell them what to say in terms of propaganda. Maybe. I don't know. I don't have any personal knowledge of it. I'm sure someone has decided that if they're going to make a movie about like Zero Dark Thirty, that they have to get some sort of approval. And I'm sure that a lot of movies that are very
Starting point is 01:20:00 inspirational that have to do with the military would be great for recruitment. So I'm sure there's some involvement. I'm sure there's also some patriots. That work in show business. That want to put out these movies. About the government. And about the military. In a very positive way.
Starting point is 01:20:17 That's probably the case in some instances too. But not everything is a fucking conspiracy. And this is why it's stupid. And why it's stupid is. Some things are a fucking conspiracy. And Alex Jones has talked about some things that were real conspiracies. agent provocateurs that which are essentially soldiers they send in soldiers and military people dressed up in all black and cover their face and they smash windows and tip over things and they take a peaceful protest and they turn it violent so then the police can move in and shut down the protest and then not only did they do that but they made a no protest zone in the
Starting point is 01:20:59 united states of america a no protest zone was it the united states of america wasn't vancouver was it was seattle i think i thought it was vancouver no i think it's seattle world trade organization protests you're talking about with the boots and they all have the same shoes yeah that shit but alex detailed this in detail and it was real when he makes things up like there was one recently the david packman show had on about uh alex talking about people eating babies pituitary glands and scattered vandalism in downtown seattle yeah seattle so the enforcer no protest zone that was in 2009 in 1999 rather was it 99 yeah december 1st 1999 the october 27 2009 was the article. Yeah, Alex did that.
Starting point is 01:21:48 That was real. That was legit. And it was very informative because I didn't know that that is how the government operated sometimes. Did you contact him the second time and go, what the fuck's wrong? I sent him a text message. I said, this is why I won't talk to you. You say crazy, stupid shit like this. But I don't hate the guy.'s you know he'll scream and yell
Starting point is 01:22:07 and call me a demon he's not in a good place you're not in a good place when you're defending against that and what all these other conspiracies like it's all fun and games until you're talking about people's kids getting murdered and then all of a sudden people are like fuck you and that's basically what happened with him if he was just ranting about government conspiracies or, you know, who shot this guy or who's stealing money from here, some of what he talks about is beneficial. But Alex is not. I don't think he's in a good place. I don't think he's in a good place mentally. And I don't think he's in a good place in terms of his situation with the law.
Starting point is 01:22:42 I don't hate you, Alex Jones. If you listen to this. If I saw you, I'd still give you a hug. I'll still even do your fucking show when I come to Austin. I don't care. We can come and hang out. But just stop making shit up. It's silly. And, you know, I'm sorry if there's bad stuff between us.
Starting point is 01:23:01 I'm more sorry of what you said about those kids. I'm sorry about everything i'm it's it's unfortunate it's all terrible now something like that what's the road to redemption for someone like that because some this the thing about people is and i think this is also what's going on with alex people need a road to redemption like if if someone fucks up horribly and does something terrible, should that be the end of them? This idea that we don't need them anymore,
Starting point is 01:23:32 no matter who it is. I mean, what does a person have to do to grow and learn and for people just to accept them again? And let them onto all platforms again. What does a person have to do? It's a real good question. I think it's per person, though.
Starting point is 01:23:51 Somebody like Alex just seems like he's getting worse and worse. This seems like what he did to just you is just insane. Why are you doing it to me? Because he's mad at me because I haven't had him on. I'm sure if he asked you or if he was in town, I'm sure. No, no, you're not listening. I said I didn't want to have him on. I was in town I'm sure No No You're not listening I said I didn't want to have him on I was trying to figure out
Starting point is 01:24:08 Whether I would have him on But when I watched The Media Matters video It was very clear to me He wasn't being on I asked him If he had said That it was fake
Starting point is 01:24:16 And he said He questioned Whether or not it was real But then Eventually he acknowledged That it was real Which he has done But there was many times Where he said it was fake.
Starting point is 01:24:26 Not one, many times. It's absolutely fake. It was 100% fake. There's video of it. I didn't see the video before we did our 9-11 podcast. I've seen it now. And I still thought about having him on. I still thought about talking to him about it
Starting point is 01:24:40 and talking to him about all this shit and what it's like. I think he plays a character honestly i don't think so i mean with the reptile guys and people and the things that he says none of it half of it's just like what the fuck are you talking about i think he he definitely goes goes crazy with some things but i don't think he's doing well um yeah but he was talking about eating babies pituitary glands see if you you can find that David Pakman video. David Pakman, who's a progressive commentator online, he was going, look, something's wrong with him. Like, he's playing this video.
Starting point is 01:25:15 Like, what? He's talking about them breaking into morgues. What is happening to Alex Johnson? Yeah, see if you can find the part on the video where Alex is talking. It's early on. It sounds like schizophrenia. Yeah, see if you can find the part on the video where Alex is talking. It's early on.
Starting point is 01:25:24 It sounds like schizophrenia. It sounds like any episode of Live PD or Cops, you know, and people are talking like, I saw aliens upstairs in my house. You know, like the other guy, Owen Benjamin. Look at him. See, play this real quick. It's all in plain view to these people. They're just putting it in our face, and they want a system where we can't do anything to stop them.
Starting point is 01:25:47 That's like Bill Maher. The name of his production company is uh kid love which is his nameable slogan basically then he makes jokes about having sex with kids all the time and then says it's okay to have sex with you know kids that have sex with 35 year olds when they're 12. Just incredibly outrageous, evil, pathetic stuff of these soulless demons like Bill Maher. But Josh was saying he had a theory dealing with what walnut sauce is. And are you going to say it's the pituitary gland? Because they confirmed that Jimmy Savelle and others would torture little kids to death death but they couldn't get regular ones to kill if everything was to grab a kid run over the cars they could say oh there's a police report they got run over but they would hurry to the morgue and they work with different different
Starting point is 01:26:34 government control morgues and eat the pituitary gland as quickly as possible uh and and get high off of it so yes yeah okay okay that's yeah that's first of all bill maher's not a fucking pedophile this is this is crazy this is like a weird rambling and this is not alex that i knew from 1998 it's just not it's not the same guy this is a guy who's not doing well so my apology um as a human being to alex jones if uh you were hurt that i didn't have you back on the show if you were hurt that i occasionally poke fun at you i have to you're hilarious unfortunately but uh i don't hate you i don't wish you wish you badly and uh back in the day i enjoyed a lot of your stuff. People lose their way, you know?
Starting point is 01:27:26 So I think that it's a real bad feeling being stuck on the outside, too, when they all band together and kick you out. And everybody kicks you out. Everybody. Twitter and Facebook and everybody and YouTube. Twitter was the last one but uh that was jack dorsey didn't even know why al shones got kicked off of twitter and people like well let him back in then like yeah but somebody knows like somebody like i
Starting point is 01:27:56 don't think jack dorsey is really the guy who's looking at each individual person that gets banned i just have a feeling that that stuff is compartmentalized right don't you think it's a bunch of people 67 million monthly active users yeah right but how many people are um responsible for banning people and real high profile people i just i don't know i'm sure there's a whole like maybe 12 people they have to have a meeting then they you know maybe they talk to jack maybe they don't maybe they they it's a position who yeah right maybe he doesn't we don't know i'll ask that for sure but maybe he didn't know when people got banned until he like maybe got a company memo maybe he wasn't involved in the of course maybe i don't know maybe he's the one who called him up
Starting point is 01:28:39 and said get rid of this motherfucker that's possible too yeah like here's another one right here's one that people had an issue with and one thing you could say okay um like uh when kathy griffin held up the the the trump head remember that um did she do that on her own twitter account uh yeah she yeah well i mean she posted a photo of it which Which she posted? She posted on Instagram or Twitter? I think it was on both. I'm not 100% sure. Right. So that, is it allowed? It's allowed because it's newsworthy, because it's a celebrity, and the celebrity is threatening a public figure who's also the most powerful person in the world, so it's okay?
Starting point is 01:29:24 Is that why that is? I think she posted it because it was an art piece that was kind of controversial oh no no no i know that that's what i'm saying why i'm saying why is it okay why is she still allowed to be on the platform and alex jones gets kicked off that's a it's an interesting question right like what do you need to do to get kicked off because that's not the only thing that kathy's done um recently she was one of the people that was calling for the name for that young boy who was um with that native american in front of his face beating the drum it's crazy irresponsible you know i'm sure she feels bad about it now in retrospect especially if she's watched the video but she got carried away and she thought what we all thought when we saw the picture
Starting point is 01:30:02 that smirking cunt of a kid that got in the face of this beautiful indigenous man who's singing his rain dance cry or whatever the fuck he's doing. Yeah, that's not what it was, though. We found out afterwards it was much more complicated. What is their song? What were they singing? It sounded cool. They should make a record.
Starting point is 01:30:20 Yeah. Do you like that shit? That shit's cool to listen to when you work out. If you get some legit Native American do you like that shit that shit's cool to listen to when you work out if you get like some some legit native american chants like that put you into a trance right if you don't know what they're saying you just go running and you listen to that take a little couple tokes go for go for a jog in the woods listen to native american chants on your airpods that was an interesting video though because i mean that was a 180 after just hearing the second side of the story like 12 hours later and people still were calling for that guy's head yeah and people i saw someone who said um what's his name ron perlman no who's
Starting point is 01:30:58 the guy who was uh hellboy yeah ron perlman ron perlman was like motherfuckers are telling me that uh i'm not seeing what I'm seeing. And she said something about some white prick or white motherfucker. I'm like, oh, okay. People try so hard. You are seeing what you're seeing. Yeah, you're seeing what you're seeing. But what you're not seeing is a video that shows how it occurred.
Starting point is 01:31:21 That's all it is. Yeah. You know? So why is that okay? know so why is that okay right why is that okay why is it okay for some journalists to say horrible things about white people why is that okay why is that okay it seems weird what if it encourages violence against a innocent white person just one should you be responsible what if they say why did you do that well i read blah blah blah's uh tweet and i was like you know what i am gonna go out and punch a white person
Starting point is 01:31:49 fuck that i just found some white old lady and i beat her ass like if someone decides that you're not responsible for that are you probably not but you gotta kind of feel like you played a part in the way people look at things especially people that are very easily influenced you know it's just also it's gross you read something really racist against white people like that's gross like you think all all people are like that a whole group of people that don't have as much melanin they're all shit that's ridiculous you're a ridiculous person i don't care if you're brown or black or yellow. You're ridiculous. That's silly. So we have to decide.
Starting point is 01:32:28 We've got to decide what the fuck we're doing. And we keep letting illogical behavior be normal, like breaking us off into fucking groups like that and thinking that all men are great or all women are great or all gays are great and never all straight cisgendered men can go fuck themselves all right that's that's silly talk i don't care who you are you're not allowed to do that but we let people do that if they're a part of a marginalized class if someone's a part of a marginalized class then you get to shit on everybody in a weird way you You get to reinforce racism. It's so fucking counterproductive, too. Because if you do that, then it just makes people just get defensive on the other side.
Starting point is 01:33:14 They don't even want to even think or empathize with how you are. Whatever, bro. Social media has really made everything annoying, hasn't it? It has made everything great, too, though. It's both. Dude, Twitter is like we're saying, when someone says something dumb like trump will say something dumb sometimes and i'll just go there for the memes yeah and i'll just read his post and it'll get me going in the morning i'll get like 15 minutes of ha ha's you probably missed this story yesterday have you heard any of the 21
Starting point is 01:33:37 savage news oh he got deported right because everyone found out yesterday that he's apparently from the uk and so like story, there's two stories. That is part of the story, but memes of him being from the UK and a British rapper that's supposedly from Atlanta really took over to the fact, like, Demi Lovato tweeted it, and she got shit on, and she's deleted her Twitter now because of the response to that. Did you know who this guy was before?
Starting point is 01:34:03 No, but I'm 51 years old. I'm an old man. Number one record in the country. Really? Well, Jamie's on Black Twitter. Jamie's on Black Twitter. But you're on Black Twitter. Sure.
Starting point is 01:34:15 Could be two. I am. I am. I follow a lot of them. I don't know any of these like Tech Nines and Sushi Fours or whatever. That guy's fucked. That Takeshi69? He's fucked. Maybehi 69 he's fucked maybe
Starting point is 01:34:26 what do you mean maybe well they're saying he's he's talking he might get a lot of he's still fucked he's fucked he's fucked he's going to jail for a long time with a tattoo of 69 on his face he's going to jail he's gonna have real problems that ain't good there the man did you read the list of charges there's's murder involved. Yeah. Murder, conspiracy. Video of him supposedly calling a hit on someone. Oh, Jesus Christ. That was put on TMZ. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:34:52 Oh, he's fucked, man. Yeah. Even if he cooperates, if they put a hit on someone because he said it, Jesus Christ. He won't get the death penalty, but now he'll be life in prison. He'll be someone's fleshlight yeah heck yeah yeah it's a real problem soldier boy's in jail too isn't he is for what got arrested i didn't yeah he did what he uh beat up his girl and his girl beat him up no no no that was a little bow wow you son of a bitch you just shamed soldier boy for no reason with your shitty pot addled
Starting point is 01:35:23 memory wait a second You son of a bitch Jamie's right I know it was Little Bow Wow No there was something else Hold on Yep Jesus Christ He's accused of kidnapping a woman
Starting point is 01:35:31 Oh kidnapping I'm sorry So you got the stories conflated Kidnapping is even worse He tied a girl to a A chair Using an extension cord And kept her for six or seven hours
Starting point is 01:35:43 In his garage Whoa Yeah Oh he's going to jail forever Prom What'd he do that for That's someone's daughter using an extension cord and kept her for six or seven hours in his garage. Whoa. Yeah. Oh, he's going to jail forever. What did he do that for? That's someone's daughter. What did he do that for? Jealousy, I think.
Starting point is 01:35:52 It said, this is apparently, according to Celebrity News Outlet, the woman whose name I will not say apparently was backing out of a driveway and her car hit Soldiers L.A. home when she hit the curb, or at his house when she hit the curb. From that point on, his assistant reportedly became upset and started fighting with her. From there, Soulja allegedly stepped outside and tried to break up the fight. The woman says that he began punching and kicking her when she was on the ground
Starting point is 01:36:17 and then tied her up for six hours. God, Soulja boy. Well. At least Nintendo One would wish that cooler heads would prevail But that sounds like That sounds like a fucking disaster Yeah
Starting point is 01:36:32 Jesus Christ Yikes You never hear about the spin doctors causing any problems, right guys? She hit a curb? This all started She hit a curb with his car or something? She curbed one of his wheels? Wasn't enough information on there, I don't know
Starting point is 01:36:44 Yeah Yeah, she probably curbed one of his wheels? Wasn't enough information on there. I don't know. Yeah. Yeah, she probably curbed one of his wheels. Probably it was a nice car. And she didn't know what the fuck she was doing. I can drive. And she... What a dick. Tied her up and beat her up.
Starting point is 01:36:56 That's crazy. Jesus Christ. Allegedly. Allegedly. Right, right, right. You got to always say that. I've been denied by this team. Did you see that video of that old man putting the ice on the ground
Starting point is 01:37:06 and then pretending he fell? Oh, that's, yeah. Allegedly. Brilliant. Allegedly. Allegedly. There's no allegedly needed for that. It's amazing.
Starting point is 01:37:14 It's amazing to watch because he didn't know there was a security camera there. He tried to collect. Yeah. There's a lot of people that do that, man. I've seen videos of people doing that at the mall. They'll throw a drink down and then slide down on the drink. We had a guy do it once at a movie theater I worked at, and we had it on video also, and we just showed him the video, and then he left and never heard anything about it.
Starting point is 01:37:32 But he was bitching up a storm, like he was hurt. Watch this guy. This guy's hilarious. So he's walking. He looks around. Chuck some ice in the ground. A little bit of ice there. No big deal.
Starting point is 01:37:42 I'm just going to go over here. La-di-da-di-da. Okay. I love this fall. Watch this. He he looks around make sure no one's looking oh even fell like a bitch my back it's like holding his drink the most ridiculous look at that silly man silly silly man the thing about those guys is like anybody that does that kind of shit i think the cops all they have to do is go, sure, what's your social security number? And they look up all the shit that he's also done.
Starting point is 01:38:10 That ain't just a little bit of a scam. That's a guy who's been scamming. It's like in Russia and stuff or other countries where everyone's doing the insurance scams to the point where everybody has to have dash cams on their car now. Yeah, there's a lot of that in Russia. You just triggered a story I heard over the weekend. I think this is a story happening in Houston
Starting point is 01:38:30 where the cops broke into a house where they had heard that there was, I think they had a warrant. The report was that neighbors had called in black tar heroin sales or something like that at this house. So they broke in without knocking. It was like a no-knock warrant uh the guy's like 57 in the house here's someone breaking into his house gets a shotgun shoots one of the cops they kill him his wife is like what the fuck's going on she goes to try to grab the
Starting point is 01:38:57 other cop's gun that had just fallen she gets shot oh two people are dead and they didn't find any heroin oh there's like some weed in there or something like that oh and so people are dead and they didn't find any heroin oh there's like some weed in there or something like that oh and so people are like they didn't have a history of doing much from what i remember that's why i thought of it because they looked back with these guys did they have an arrest history or anything and it wasn't anything that they'd found at least when i read about it do you remember the one where there was a mayor outside of washington dcC., and they were using his house as an address. And it was something with the mail delivery guy was running weed. And so the mail delivery guy would come by, and the package was addressed to him,
Starting point is 01:39:38 but he would just keep the package because he knew that this was this guy's house. It was on his route, and that way, as the package came in the mail, it would be his to deliver, but instead of delivering it, he would hold on to it. So they break into the mayor's house. Shoot his fucking dogs. Shoot his dog. And he had one of my dogs, like Marshall.
Starting point is 01:39:58 He was like a super-duper sweet dog. He had a yellow lab, which is real similar. I think it was a yellow lab. It might have been a golden retriever either way they fucking shot at least one of his dogs how'd they not know it was the mayor's house you think that would be like a like on a list they didn't google shit or maybe they did maybe they thought fucking the mayor is a drug dealer yeah maybe they really thought that but that kind of shit is dark man you just go shoot a golden retriever.
Starting point is 01:40:26 Come on, you're not a pussy. And I know you're going in there because you think this is a real drug running operation because the cops just got bad information, right?
Starting point is 01:40:32 But you're not a pussy. You don't have to shoot a fucking Labrador. Stop. You think that thing's going to bite you? Well, when it does, shoot it then.
Starting point is 01:40:39 It's not going to bite you. The fuck out of here. That's a weird power trip shit thing. You shoot all dogs. No, look, if a guy's got a wolf and it's off the chain it's running at you
Starting point is 01:40:47 yeah shoot it but you're breaking into some guy's house and then you shoot his fucking dog what if you're wrong like you are a lot you cool with shooting
Starting point is 01:40:54 someone's fucking dog in front of their kids that's what happened to the mayor of this town the fucking mayor I bet the guy who was the mail carrier just thought it was cute to use the mayor's address
Starting point is 01:41:06 get all the weed delivered maybe he voted for his opponent or he thought it was safer to do it that way did you get a Tesla or are you just driving around telling me how do you like it it's preposterous
Starting point is 01:41:20 I had to get one I told Elon Musk I would get one guy did my podcast I owe him a solid. I'm a man of my word. It's a fucking spaceship. It's the weirdest thing I've ever driven in my life. It doesn't even make sense.
Starting point is 01:41:34 It's not even, not even, there's not a single car that I've ever driven that's even close to as fast. Nothing. Like, my Porsche is so slow. I have a GT3 RS. It has 518 horsepower it weighs 3 000 pounds it sounds like a dragon and that tesla would leave it in the dust i mean leave it in the dust like zero to 62 seconds quicker it's fucking insane taking it out of uh no ludicrous no yeah i did i put it in chill mode for a little but you could drive chill with ludicrous mode always available you don't have to keep switching
Starting point is 01:42:10 back ludicrous mode is just crazy like the fastest and then it kills your battery well it kills your battery quicker but the thrust that you get is a roller coaster ride it's insane i mean you can't believe how fast it is it doesn't even it literally doesn't make sense it doesn't seem right it seems like like it's punching its way through a wormhole using alien technology meanwhile i posted it seems like uh something bob lazar snuck out of area 51 i get all these messages from people bob lazar has been debunked that's controlled opposition that's a fake story It's fake news bro
Starting point is 01:42:46 They got you With the Bob Lazar story Do you like all the tech in it? I mean that's It's insane It's too much almost Because it's this giant screen Like I had to dim it
Starting point is 01:42:54 Way the fuck down Because I wasn't Just looking at it Like you're so pretty You're so pretty You're so pretty It's my dream car It's very comfortable
Starting point is 01:43:01 How long Super comfortable Now do you have a Supercharged station At your house yet Or do you I have a thing on the wall At my house Okay That I can plug it into It comfortable how long super comfortable now do you have a supercharged station at your house yet or do you have a thing on the wall at my house okay that i could plug it into it's not a supercharger it takes like eight hours eight hours or more and how many miles but i'm gonna get one of those i'm gonna get one of those fast charger in the house yeah it goes allegedly and i mean allegedly 311 miles do you have the fuel but here's the problem i drive like
Starting point is 01:43:23 a moron so it's not going that far Is there a fuel option For that model Fuel I mean I think there's a fuel add-on That gives you an extra Like
Starting point is 01:43:32 That's an option I thought you meant Fuel Like gasoline Yeah There's a What No
Starting point is 01:43:39 What are you talking about Some models Not Tesla Not Tesla Okay You're just making shit up bro Some I forget which car it is. A car.
Starting point is 01:43:47 It's got four wheels. An electric car, you can pay extra for one gallon of gas. So if you ever lose your battery... Oh, I have heard of that. Yeah. Yeah, what was that? I thought Tesla had that for some reason. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:43:58 There was like... Prius, maybe? I don't know. Priuses are mixed. They're hybrids. Priuses use gasoline, but a very stingy amount of gasoline. They run partially on electric motors. So do the Acura NSX.
Starting point is 01:44:13 The Acura NSX has two electric motors. But I think you don't ever charge it. I think the electric motors are powered by the gasoline engine and electricity in the car, if I remember right. That's supposed to be the motherfucker. Like, the Acura NSX is supposed to be the car that people are underlooking for whatever reason. It just doesn't get the love that it deserves. And apparently the 2019 model is even more insane. I can't wait till the day where, like, your garage floor is like a wireless charging mat.
Starting point is 01:44:43 You just pull right up into the mat or they well it never would be because it's rubber well they're i'm sure they'll find a way because like there's a there's there's like if you if you take your phone and put on a wireless charger there's like a little room that if you don't you don't have to touch it like maybe that's the whole reason why you're safe from getting hit by lightning bro yeah like that the rubber protects you from electricity if you park though a little thing comes down to the ground. Like a little suction. Maybe. Yeah, what if that thing falls out while you're driving?
Starting point is 01:45:07 A little boner. Flips your car over. Or like if the streets, like if somehow, like if you're riding on the highway and if you want to fuel up, that you can like fuel up using the road and like pay like a fee or something. Right. Well, really, ideally, it would be great if solar panels had gotten so powerful that they could charge it just with the sun,
Starting point is 01:45:25 especially because Southern California is always fucking sunny, except for today. But it's a matter of time. The car is the future. That's what it is. It really is. Look, I'm a giant fan of American muscle cars. They're my all-time favorite cars in terms of, like, to drive, to hear the rumble of the engine. I love them.
Starting point is 01:45:42 I love them. to hear the rumble of the engine. I love them. I love them. Maybe I'm some crazy old dude from the fucking 80s that still loves 1960s muscle cars. Maybe. I don't care. I love them.
Starting point is 01:45:52 But that fucking car is the future. That Tesla is the future. When you drive it, you realize, oh, other cars are stupid. What is that? That's that new crazy rocket that you showed us today. He's shooting rockets out in his backyard? Is that his house? Is there anything that you don't like on there or something that kind of bugs you that you wish was like,
Starting point is 01:46:12 I don't like how there's no door handles. No, no, no, nothing. You just got to figure it out. It just takes a little while to figure out what all the different buttons do and how to get things to happen, but it's really well thought out. Look, he's a look he's a legit genius you know and what he's doing is unprecedented and you know this is going to sound like i'm kissing his ass because i like him because he did the podcast and then i became friends with
Starting point is 01:46:36 him but no what he's important the guy's got ideas that are of a magnitude that dummies like you and me are never gonna come up with any of those ideas ever if we lived a thousand lives we would never figure out spacex it's just not on our wheelhouse we would never make a fucking electric car we never make one of those things never make that tesla roadster that's going to come out that goes zero to 60 in 1.9 seconds and and looks like like a spaceship like a like a race car spaceship from the future. We're not doing that, dude. We need people like that.
Starting point is 01:47:07 Those guys are super important. This guy is a culture changer, like a legit culture changer. And you got him to smoke weed. Jesus. He wanted to. He's a pad blocker, busted. I'm looking for the new Toyota Supra, man.
Starting point is 01:47:25 We both had Supras growing up. Dude, the new one looks dope. So this is the SpaceX rocket. What does it say at the top? It says, built a stainless steel rocket ship in Texas that looks like liquid silver and
Starting point is 01:47:40 might launch in February. What day is this article? January 11th, a couple weeks ago. Yeah, okay, it fell over. Yeah, I know they've been doing stuff more with it, but I just know how cool it looks. It looks like... But I mean, it fell.
Starting point is 01:47:53 It fell on the ground. While it was standing there? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It got blown over in the wind. It looks like a drawing for a rocket from the 1900s. I don't know if he did it on purpose, but it looks just like a rocket. Dude, it looks like a fucking movie like buck rogers
Starting point is 01:48:07 that's a buck rogers rocket you're right it looks dope though rogers dude that driving that car really feels like like the future and did you get the best model or is it what the son of course you did but uh yeah i got the Model S P100D is what it's called I just paid off my car I might just sell it and get one of those I'm so tempted
Starting point is 01:48:31 but you have to have a place to park it that has a little charge port yeah I mean I have it a power outlet they could probably
Starting point is 01:48:38 convert it yeah I think there's a couple superchargers in Burbank yeah there's one across the street but it's always taken I don't know what the
Starting point is 01:48:44 you know what's weird, man? Passing by gas stations and going, I'm never going to use you with this. I'm never pulling in there unless I want a soda. Look at that thing. That's ridiculous. Zero to 60 in 1.9 seconds. And I'm telling you, man, that's not an unrealistic number. 620 miles?
Starting point is 01:49:00 Yes. Wait, when's this come out? A couple years. Oh. It's going to be a while. I'm going to get one. one 100 by your old one this is such a dope car man it doesn't even make sense why does it not have a side mirror it's got no side mirrors maybe as cameras fuck surrendering of it probably shut your mouth i tell you a goddamn side mirror you sons of bitches i i love my camera uh cameras
Starting point is 01:49:24 on my car i don't even use my side mirrors it's so much better having that look at that thing how much is that 620 mile i don't know probably stupid expensive look how pretty it is it's too pretty to be cheap look how fucking sick that thing looks look at it i mean it's like the ultimate sports car like that looks like a that easily could be a new 911. From that angle, particularly. And then the roof comes off. It looks like gamer seats.
Starting point is 01:49:50 Look at those gamer seats right there. Not only that, but that's what racing seats look like. That's why they were racing seats first and then became gamer seats. But the steering wheel's wonky. The steering wheel's like an F1, like a Formula 1 car. See it? Oh, it's like square. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:50:04 It's like you grab it by the handles. Maybe they want to make sure that you don't do this kind of shit. Like, this is so fast, you probably need to hold on to it in a different way. Dude, I'm telling you, the car that I got, I've never experienced anything like that before. You don't think it's real. You don't think a car can do that. It doesn't make any sense. What?
Starting point is 01:50:26 $245,000. Oh, damn. Chop that chat. Oh, my gosh. That's plus the $5,000. Oh, so $250,000. $250,000. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:50:37 It's probably going to sell out in five seconds, too. You got to pay attention. Every dickhead in Hollywood will have one. Look at me. I'm environmentally conscious, but still sexy. Look at my beads one Look at me, I'm environmentally conscious But still sexy Look at my beads, look at my open shirt I went into a Volt the other day
Starting point is 01:50:52 As an Uber and I was amazed by that They're pretty sweet I think that's a hybrid, right? No, it's all electric It had like five different cameras Did he ask him how long the range is? Yeah, it wasn't as good as I think it was like 230, I think he said That's not bad though, if you're driving around Hollywood cameras and it's pretty sweet did he ask him how long the range is uh yeah it wasn't as good as i
Starting point is 01:51:05 think it was like 230 i think he said that's not bad though if you're driving around hollywood you could probably get a whole night in you know if you're ubering audi just uh announced theirs yesterday with the super bowl commercial oh it looks nasty i've seen it looks nasty yeah it looks nasty like jackson nasty or bad nasty miss jackson would be nasty. It looks like... I think you might be thinking of a different one. I'm thinking of the R8. Yeah, this is a different one. Oh, get that out of the way. No, that's ugly.
Starting point is 01:51:30 Take that away. Look at that stupid grill. That actually looks like a regular Audi is what it looks like. But Google Audi electric sports car. That's what it looks like. There's one. That doesn't look bad. That looks like a standard SUV. That looks pretty good.
Starting point is 01:51:47 What's the mile on that thing? What's the mileage? The range. The range is everything on these fucking things. Exactly. Is anything below like 300 miles? What does that say? Come back up. It's comparing the amount of time you charge it and what it takes
Starting point is 01:52:02 to charge to get certain things. The Model X only does 144 miles and it it takes to charge to get certain things. Oh, the Model X. I was trying to find that. Model X only does 144 miles, and it does 160 miles. That ain't good. It's on that kind of charger or something like that. Dude, that ain't good. Manufacturer estimate. That ain't good. After 30 minutes.
Starting point is 01:52:16 That's only after 30 minutes. Oh. How much you get in 30 minutes. Well, that's pretty good in 30 minutes. So you can get 160 miles worth of charge in 30 minutes. That's not bad. That's a long time, though, if you've got to go somewhere. If you're in a rush, you can't just pull in and get gas.
Starting point is 01:52:33 But you don't want the kind of power that would it take. I mean, can you imagine how many dipshit? That's it. That's the Audi. Look at that thing, Brian. Yeah, I like that. I like that better. No, that's the e. Look at that thing, Brian. Yeah, I like that. I like that better. No, that's the e-tron one.
Starting point is 01:52:46 So it's basically an Audi R8, a next generation Audi R8. Go to that. Yeah, that's what it looks like. That's a nasty looking car. It's a dope electric e-tron. That says 2016. Yeah, I think this is when they announced it back at the car shows and whatnot. It's just now coming out.
Starting point is 01:53:06 eChance is probably what they're calling it. Google, see if it actually is a real thing or is it still just a concept. Because there's a lot of those cars that will disappoint the shit out of you. 279 miles. Oh, so it's a real thing. When is it available? I wonder when that's coming out. It said 2022 right there 2022 yeah so that's probably the same time the rose just coming out but look how they get your
Starting point is 01:53:32 dick hard years in advance you could have ordered it in 2015 so rude though oh man so rude to get your dick hard so far in advance yeah you know like if you're like yeah i'm gonna be fucking super environmental but i'm gonna just show everybody what's up i'll be stunting there you go wow right here september just do you see the new uh volkswagen dune buggy that looks pretty fun no what is that it's uh sell a dune buggy it was just announced uh i'm not sure if when it's for sale or if it's for sale but it looks pretty fun it's uh it looks like a classic dune buggy but they volkswagoned it uh and it has no roof uh but it looks like a little fun car i don't know if there's
Starting point is 01:54:10 see a picture of that or not um yeah all right it's a new one yeah so it looks kind of cool Whoa. You could drive that on the road? Yeah. So it's a road car. But is it still a dune buggy? 2025. Again. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:54:31 This cock teasing. You sons of bitches. That looks fun. Well, they were supposed to announce the new Bronco. Everybody thought it was going to happen at the Detroit Auto Show. Oh, yeah. But it came and went. What happened?
Starting point is 01:54:44 Came and went with no Bronco. thought it was going to happen at the detroit auto show oh yeah but it came and happened came and went with no bronco that makes no sense though because it's actually on their website like they were going to announce it soon as for sale i thought i don't think they said that they were gonna they probably don't have it down you know sometimes when they're working on these experimental vehicles they uh they'll develop something but then they don't like certain aspects of it or then maybe they're aware of a competitor's work that might come out with more horsepower. For instance, the GT500 from Ford, it was on its way out. They were going to put it out, the new one.
Starting point is 01:55:18 But they were saying that it has over 700 horsepower. They never say that. They always give you the exact specific number. They always say 750 horsepower. It says coming in 2020. It's their website. Okay, but they didn't show it. They're probably going to make a special day for it.
Starting point is 01:55:35 That might be interesting. Fuck yeah, it's going to be nasty looking. Have you seen what it looks like? Yeah. It looks cool as fuck. They don't have any pictures of it? No, because that's just... Right, it's the Ford website.
Starting point is 01:55:44 It doesn't have pictures of it because they haven't released it yet. Right. But what was I just saying? What was I just saying? I said... We're talking about what before the Bronco? The Volkswagen Beetle? The buggy?
Starting point is 01:56:00 No, you were saying... Switch to the Bronco? I don't remember,ie fuck me oh uh about how it's getting pushed back because you know somebody who might like this car is faster yeah that's right the shelby the gt500 they said it's only set it's over 700 horsepower the reason why they said that is because dodge came out with the demon and then they came out with some other version of the hellcat it's also like 800 horsepower so if you come out with only 700 horsepower it's hard because as ridiculous as that sounds some people are going to think yeah but it's not the zr1 that's got 750 or it's not the this or the that so they um they haven't said
Starting point is 01:56:43 exactly what the horsepower rating is because they're still trying to juice it up that might be the case of the bronco too they might be trying to fix things and juice things up but look how good that looks red with the black stripes good lord i love red and black see that car is a reckless person's car that's the difference between that and like a tesla what's exciting about that car the way looks, that is a ridiculous person's car. If that's what you drive around every day, you're a fucking madman. You're probably a little tipsy sometimes when you drive. You might smoke cigarettes.
Starting point is 01:57:15 You definitely smoke cigars. You probably order shots. That's a ridiculous person. It's a fun-ass fucking car. Keto on weekends. Look at the transmission. That's a ridiculous person. It's a fun-ass fucking car, but yeah. Keto on weekends. Look at the transmission. Not only is it an automatic, it's a wheel.
Starting point is 01:57:34 It's a wheel that you spin to drive. Like, fuck you. First of all, give me a goddamn stick shift like an American. I want a stick shift with the fucking American flag as the boot of the stick shift. It's one of the last places on the planet where you can still get a goddamn stick shift sports car. And what does Ford do? They released the GT500 with an automatic. How dare you? Don't talk to me about paddles.
Starting point is 01:57:56 Well, you can shift it manually with the paddles. I hate paddles. Paddles are so stupid. That's not a manual transmission, sir. That's shifting it with the paddles. What's my left foot doing? Should I pretend? How about give me a fake clutch?
Starting point is 01:58:10 Fake clutch where I can pretend. They look dope, though. Look how good that silver one looks. It looks sexy. Silver with the black stripes. God damn, that looks good. The red one with the black stripes, too. So these come out later this year?
Starting point is 01:58:22 At the end of the year, kind of? Yeah, I think so. I guess they haven't announced it yet, so. I don't think they've announced the specific date it comes out. But it looks like it's got wider body work, too, doesn't it? Like the fenders are wider in the rear and the front. But if you don't want to wait, you can get something even more powerful that is available right now with a manual transmission. You get the Shelby Super Snake.
Starting point is 01:58:46 Google that. right now with a manual transmission you get the uh shelby super snake google that you want to see america at its rock hard finest 2019 or 18 shelby super snake 800 motherfucking horsepower wide body mustang with a manual transmission and they say don't even fuck with the automatic because the automatic transmission is the transmission from a regular automatic mustang and it say don't even fuck with the automatic because the automatic transmission is the transmission from a regular automatic Mustang and it just doesn't know what the fuck to do. I mean, it's just, it's confused by this thing. The car has 800 horsepower. Turn that volume up. America, America.
Starting point is 01:59:23 Come on. Look at that. Woo! Yeah, that's not, to me that's sexy, but not worth $117,000. Shut your fucking communist mouth. That is a monster of a car. Good Lord, that's a beautiful thing. Tesla, can you download sound effects so it sounds like that?
Starting point is 01:59:43 No, I don't want that. Or just farts? You don't want that. You want want to just just be cool just chill tesla's like you're you're a man of leisure you're a man of leisure you're driving around comfortable and quiet as it flies around it's like it's going through a wormhole everywhere you drive it very strange car very strange have you tried the self-driving yet have you um nerve wracking isn't it kevin perera took me on it once and it's pretty scary yeah brian cowan does that i think he's beating off a lot when he's driving put porn on that big screen i hear you can no no
Starting point is 02:00:20 jesus i was like that's great can you imagine just driving people are on autopilot just beating off to porn and that giant ass screen does it have a web browser in it and it seems like i haven't even looked man i'm sure it does something yeah you could probably get online if it's parked or something ridiculous like that it's a crazy car but it it's it's it seems like such a leap from anything that i've ever driven before like i've never i've never experienced anything remotely close to it so let's go fucking play some quake let's wrap this up so um i said everything i wanted to say about the the jack dorsey thing um i said everything i wanted to say to uh alex jones so my olive branch extended to you mr jones i wish you well in this
Starting point is 02:01:03 life um and everybody else we'll do better. We're going to definitely have Jack back on, and we're going to have Jack back on and review some of these cases with some of the people that are in charge of it. And we're going to compile a list. We're going to try to get someone to compile a list of what they think would be contradictory cases or hypocritical cases or interesting cases or just fuel for conversation,
Starting point is 02:01:29 and we'll figure it out. And, yeah, the Cash App is one of the sponsors of the podcast. I'm 99.9% sure we said that. I'm positive we did because we talked about Justin Wren's fight for the Forgotten Charity, about what that code word Rogan is doing for pygmies in the Congo when they do that. I swear to you, even though you don't have to believe me, that did not affect how I talked to that guy. I don't have a problem getting sponsors. I got plenty of sponsors.
Starting point is 02:01:55 It's a good sponsor. I like them. They do good things. They donate $5 to UFC fighter Ray Borg's son's medical bills for every time someone uses the code Joe Rogan. So I like them. If I had them as a sponsor and I couldn't talk freely with him, I would be happy if they dropped me.
Starting point is 02:02:12 I would be way happier for them to drop me than I would for me to say something different or not say something because they're a sponsor. Again, that sounds very self-serving. Like you would say that, right? But it's true. That's all I can tell you. All right.
Starting point is 02:02:29 So that's it for today. Bye. See ya. Say bye to everybody. Bye. Bye. See ya. Thank you.

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